WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:05.120 Mac, I come to you with my hat in my hand. Oh, 2 00:00:05.160 --> 00:00:10.800 forgiveness maybe or okay. I feel like I have found common ground with someone 3 00:00:10.839 --> 00:00:17.000 who I thought was a movie villain, an all time terrible father, if 4 00:00:17.039 --> 00:00:21.239 you will, yeah, yeah, okay, And that is Peter McAllister. 5 00:00:21.440 --> 00:00:26.920 Every time that we have discussed home alone, how when Uncle Frank calls his 6 00:00:27.039 --> 00:00:32.840 son Kevin a little jerk, I've always said, hey, any father would 7 00:00:32.880 --> 00:00:35.719 step in there and say, hey, why don't you shove it up your 8 00:00:35.719 --> 00:00:42.640 butt? But now I understand explain Sometimes kids are just little jerks. Yes, 9 00:00:42.799 --> 00:00:46.240 yeah, Well I feel like it depends who's coming from. Like if 10 00:00:46.280 --> 00:00:50.119 your close relative calls your kid a little jerk, I feel like you gotta 11 00:00:50.479 --> 00:00:52.880 can't get upset about it. They're probably being a little jerk, you know. 12 00:00:53.240 --> 00:00:56.799 Granted, don't get me wrong the way that Uncle Frank says it a 13 00:00:56.840 --> 00:01:02.520 little much, total asshole. Peter McCall not a great dad. He's got, 14 00:01:02.560 --> 00:01:04.200 first of all, too many kids. Well that's also I'm not gonna 15 00:01:04.200 --> 00:01:07.920 forgive him for you know, leaving his kid twice, you know, forgetting 16 00:01:07.920 --> 00:01:12.400 about his kid twice, fool me once, fool me twice. All right, 17 00:01:12.439 --> 00:01:17.719 But hey, I apologize. You can apologize, but we still agree 18 00:01:17.760 --> 00:01:21.120 that he sucks. He does. But also that one thing though, Like 19 00:01:21.200 --> 00:01:25.959 I I feel like when I watch Home Alone this year, I'm gonna side 20 00:01:25.959 --> 00:01:27.480 with him, to be on his side, I get it. Yeah, 21 00:01:27.599 --> 00:01:42.799 Like Kevin's a real piece of shit. One good three? Yeah, job 22 00:01:42.959 --> 00:01:57.280 three, King of Queen Marl Street entertain I'm good a man, and we 23 00:01:57.319 --> 00:02:04.000 are the Mac and Goo program. We bring you sky high friendship. Oh 24 00:02:04.040 --> 00:02:07.520 sore in friendship. That's good too. I like that one. Uh yeah, 25 00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:12.759 Today we are bringing you a trio of friendship. We unfortunately don't have 26 00:02:13.000 --> 00:02:15.879 a third one here to complete our triumvit, but a duel will be good. 27 00:02:16.039 --> 00:02:19.439 I just reached over to pick up a puppet that I don't have them, 28 00:02:19.479 --> 00:02:21.520 Like, do I have a puppet in here? I can make our 29 00:02:21.599 --> 00:02:23.439 third person, you know, if anyone would have a puppet within arms. 30 00:02:23.520 --> 00:02:25.719 That's what I just thought you. I was like, yeah, I might 31 00:02:25.759 --> 00:02:30.919 have a puppet in here. Today we are discussing the Marvels. Yeah, 32 00:02:32.039 --> 00:02:37.719 of course, the latest MCU movie, the forty second entry into the MCU 33 00:02:37.840 --> 00:02:42.439 thirty third movie. Goo. May I read my pre written statement, what 34 00:02:42.479 --> 00:02:46.199 do you got here? Goo? More? Like the Mehvilles. I don't. 35 00:02:46.439 --> 00:02:50.000 I don't care for that attitude. Yeah, get ready for a whole 36 00:02:50.039 --> 00:02:53.120 bunch of that. Would you have a bad experience in the theater? Yeah, 37 00:02:53.159 --> 00:02:55.960 because of what I watched? Oh wow? Really kind of thanks? 38 00:02:57.120 --> 00:03:00.080 Goodn't disagree more? Good? Disagree more. Actually, I don't think there's 39 00:03:00.199 --> 00:03:04.280 much wrong with it. I think it's capped going in. I don't have 40 00:03:04.319 --> 00:03:07.439 many complaints about this man, Look right. I enjoyed the ride. They 41 00:03:07.479 --> 00:03:10.840 took a couple of swings that I appreciated but also did not find very funny. 42 00:03:13.159 --> 00:03:15.560 Yeah, you're just a real sour puss. This's all the callister things 43 00:03:15.599 --> 00:03:19.319 been in your head, probably all now that me and Peter mccallis are the 44 00:03:19.319 --> 00:03:22.280 same thing. That's what it is, real fucking mcaics. I hate fun 45 00:03:22.360 --> 00:03:28.400 things. Christ all right. The Marvels gooz a PG thirteen action adventure in 46 00:03:28.479 --> 00:03:30.960 fantasy with a runtime of one hundred and five minutes, but really it was 47 00:03:31.000 --> 00:03:35.240 probably more like ninety five if to take out the credits in one and the 48 00:03:35.240 --> 00:03:38.439 flashbacks. If you take off the flashbacks, it's like an hour. Like 49 00:03:38.520 --> 00:03:43.280 they had to So I understand why, because they assume that most people have 50 00:03:43.400 --> 00:03:47.319 not seen Miss Marvel. And then they also said, it's been a long 51 00:03:47.479 --> 00:03:51.240 time since Carol Danvers has been on the screen. We need to kind of 52 00:03:51.280 --> 00:03:53.599 fill in those blanks. And maybe you all saw Division Wan Division. So 53 00:03:53.960 --> 00:03:58.000 a lot of flashbacks. Yeah, well not a lot. There was like 54 00:03:58.199 --> 00:04:01.599 maybe two minutes more than the average, maybe to the minutes little, but 55 00:04:01.680 --> 00:04:05.479 they needed that for the simpletons who have not seen those properties. So you're 56 00:04:05.560 --> 00:04:09.159 right, it was a bit distracting, but it made sense as to why 57 00:04:09.199 --> 00:04:12.919 they did it. Goo, this is a sorry I already already said. 58 00:04:12.919 --> 00:04:16.120 It was PG. Thirteen on Rodney T's gou sixty two percent from the critics, 59 00:04:16.399 --> 00:04:20.839 eighty four percent from the audience. Yeah, I don't care about Rodny 60 00:04:20.879 --> 00:04:25.720 T. So you're you're talking to the rock person. Yeah. Comparatively, 61 00:04:25.839 --> 00:04:30.319 the First Captain Marvel from twenty nineteen seventy nine percent from the critics, forty 62 00:04:30.360 --> 00:04:33.040 five percent from the audience. Throw Away the forty that got review bombed. 63 00:04:33.120 --> 00:04:36.199 Yeah, stunning to me that the critics like that movie more than this, 64 00:04:36.360 --> 00:04:41.480 Although if you think about it, that's mostly self contained origin story, so 65 00:04:41.519 --> 00:04:44.560 they didn't need to know other stuff. This movie you needed to have seen 66 00:04:44.600 --> 00:04:47.560 at least two other things. So the critics are just real curmudgeons when it 67 00:04:47.560 --> 00:04:50.279 comes to that shared universes. They hate that show. Well, I would 68 00:04:50.279 --> 00:04:54.759 just say like, and not to jump too far ahead. Here we are 69 00:04:54.920 --> 00:04:58.720 just in the first thirty seconds of our podcast, when did I hit record? 70 00:04:59.360 --> 00:05:05.319 But besides Kamala Khan, not much else here for me? Really yeah, 71 00:05:05.639 --> 00:05:09.279 yeah, all right, McAllister. I was gonna say, gou the 72 00:05:09.839 --> 00:05:14.480 thing that throws me off here is sixty two percent Miss Marvel. The show 73 00:05:14.519 --> 00:05:17.720 gu ninety eight percent on Rotten Tomatoes, eighty percent from the audience. Because 74 00:05:17.720 --> 00:05:23.240 that character rules. That character is great. I love that character. She 75 00:05:23.480 --> 00:05:29.079 dominates a lot of this movie. So this just felt like an extended episode 76 00:05:29.120 --> 00:05:31.720 of the show with more stakes, of course, but this felt a lot 77 00:05:31.759 --> 00:05:34.920 like that series. Felt like tonally, I would say that anything that is 78 00:05:34.959 --> 00:05:40.480 said by any other character in this movie really bad dialogue. Anything that's not 79 00:05:40.600 --> 00:05:44.319 her or her family, terrible dialogue. Yeah, I don't agree with at 80 00:05:44.319 --> 00:05:46.399 all. I didn't have an issue with the dialogue's because you wrote the movie 81 00:05:46.800 --> 00:05:53.519 goo on Metacritic, which obviously you put your review in a fifty a fifty 82 00:05:53.560 --> 00:05:58.519 on Metacritic. If I'm not mistaken. That is the lowest Metacritic score in 83 00:05:58.560 --> 00:06:03.560 the MCU, now playing Metacritic every episode because I forget, let's have flashbacks. 84 00:06:05.360 --> 00:06:09.199 This is where the critics actually give it a score, and they average 85 00:06:09.199 --> 00:06:14.160 the score. Oh fifty good. There is a number of movies a lot 86 00:06:14.199 --> 00:06:18.040 worse than this in the MCU. Fifty is insane, insane. It makes 87 00:06:18.079 --> 00:06:23.160 no fucking sense to me. And again, for comparison, what this movie 88 00:06:23.240 --> 00:06:27.399 feels most like is a combo of the first Captain Marvel and the Miss Marvel 89 00:06:27.439 --> 00:06:30.800 Show those out of sixty four Captain Marvel at a seventy eight for Miss Marvel, 90 00:06:31.160 --> 00:06:34.480 I get it. Yeah, I don't at all. It's it's it's 91 00:06:35.360 --> 00:06:39.839 to like Captain Marvel, to like Miss Marvel and to not like this. 92 00:06:40.079 --> 00:06:43.319 It doesn't make sense. You'll have to explain that. If that's the case. 93 00:06:43.800 --> 00:06:46.639 Good. This movie is written by Nia DaCosta. You would know her 94 00:06:46.680 --> 00:06:49.279 from Candy Man Uh, the one from a couple of years ago, Megan 95 00:06:49.360 --> 00:06:54.439 McDonald. She was a writer on WandaVision and Alyssa Karasick. She was a 96 00:06:54.480 --> 00:06:58.439 writer on Loki Season one. This is directed by Nia DaCosta. She also 97 00:06:58.519 --> 00:07:01.399 directed Candy Man Goo synopsis and Uh, by the way, I had no 98 00:07:01.480 --> 00:07:05.399 issue with the direction nor the writing. I thought they were all perfectly fine. 99 00:07:05.480 --> 00:07:09.839 Kevin Figy did a great job on both. No. Three writers in 100 00:07:09.879 --> 00:07:15.680 here come on. Maybe Carol Danvers gets her powers entangled with those of Kamala 101 00:07:15.759 --> 00:07:20.680 Khan and Monica Rambo, forcing them to work together to save the universe. 102 00:07:21.199 --> 00:07:27.040 This movie stars Brie Larson as Carol Danvers, Tayana Parris is Monica Rambo, 103 00:07:27.279 --> 00:07:30.360 Aman Vallani is Kamala Khan, Samuel L. Jackson is Nick Fury, and 104 00:07:30.480 --> 00:07:35.680 Zahwei Ashton as dar Ben. She's the VILLAINKI go, uh is this taking 105 00:07:35.759 --> 00:07:42.399 place? This is after Secret Invasion? Correct that? I don't know that. 106 00:07:42.439 --> 00:07:45.920 I'm not sure. I'm assuming it is right. It may It may 107 00:07:45.959 --> 00:07:49.040 be because I feel like Nick Fury was a little too laid back with what 108 00:07:49.319 --> 00:07:53.800 just happened. Oh no, he like the end of Secret Invasion, he's 109 00:07:53.839 --> 00:07:55.879 like all set, you know, he's over the hill. He just wants 110 00:07:55.879 --> 00:07:58.560 to kind of relax, and he's very relaxed on this. He's all two 111 00:07:58.600 --> 00:08:01.360 relaxed. He's in the caf birds. He should have died a million times. 112 00:08:01.360 --> 00:08:03.639 He's getting nothing to lose. At this point, I'm gonna write down 113 00:08:03.639 --> 00:08:05.120 my note in spoilers, I don't want to say it. Here some other 114 00:08:05.240 --> 00:08:09.759 characters and here they played a part. Gary Lewis is Emperor Droje Drogue. 115 00:08:09.800 --> 00:08:13.560 I don't know how to say it. He was the scroll leader on that 116 00:08:13.120 --> 00:08:18.319 scull planet that we visit. Also, what I really liked about this and 117 00:08:18.360 --> 00:08:22.199 we really only have gotten this in Infinity War Endgame in the Guardians movies, 118 00:08:22.279 --> 00:08:24.839 jumping around the galaxy. That's always fun to me. I enjoy that. 119 00:08:24.399 --> 00:08:30.680 Parks you, June, I probably butchered that as Prince jan Zenobia Shroff as 120 00:08:30.759 --> 00:08:35.240 Muniba Khan that's Kamala's mother, Mohar Kapor as Yusuf Khan that's the father, 121 00:08:35.559 --> 00:08:41.480 Cigar Shake Shike as a Meer Khan, he's the brother. All three of 122 00:08:41.480 --> 00:08:46.120 phenomenal, and they were phenomenal from the show. All the cons are great. 123 00:08:46.519 --> 00:08:52.360 It's she's one of the best characters that wasn't in like the original equation 124 00:08:52.679 --> 00:08:54.720 from the last five years. She's one of the best things. Then, 125 00:08:54.759 --> 00:08:56.639 I also want to say that she is the exact same off the camera, 126 00:08:56.919 --> 00:09:01.039 and it's fucking amazing. Yeah, I really want to see her and Peter 127 00:09:01.159 --> 00:09:05.720 Parker interact and I hope that happens pretty soon. The other three here, 128 00:09:05.759 --> 00:09:09.159 we got Leila Farzad. She was one of the Saber astronauts that you see 129 00:09:09.159 --> 00:09:11.279 at the beginning, as well as Abraham Papula. He's the three hundred year 130 00:09:11.320 --> 00:09:16.879 old named dog Dog Is he an as guardian? He had some as guardian 131 00:09:16.919 --> 00:09:20.639 beard type stuff. Dred years old he may have been an as guardian. 132 00:09:20.840 --> 00:09:24.759 And then Daniel Ings is Tyrone. His name is just ty Rone. That 133 00:09:24.919 --> 00:09:28.679 was dar Ben's like number one in command, the right hand man. Uh. 134 00:09:28.879 --> 00:09:35.120 My main gripe about this movie goo and it's really honestly, the first 135 00:09:35.159 --> 00:09:39.320 act is clunky. But outside that, my only major grip about this movie 136 00:09:39.799 --> 00:09:46.320 is if you're gonna tell me that the Bengal that she finds on that fucking 137 00:09:46.360 --> 00:09:50.519 moon or planet whatever, and because she finds that opens up these shitty riffs 138 00:09:50.240 --> 00:09:56.279 that causes an entanglement because it activates the other Bengal. Why is she not 139 00:09:56.519 --> 00:10:01.480 entangled with our three heroes. I'm also curious who hid that second Bengal that's 140 00:10:01.600 --> 00:10:05.039 very, very far from the first one. Yeah, I think that was 141 00:10:05.080 --> 00:10:07.559 the point to keep them separate. You didn't want to one person to get 142 00:10:07.559 --> 00:10:09.120 a hold of them. I think that's it. It's just kind of like 143 00:10:09.159 --> 00:10:11.000 Infinity Stone. Well it's still happened now. Well, yeah, it's just 144 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:13.320 like it did with Infinity Stones. I don't see you complained about that. 145 00:10:13.399 --> 00:10:16.639 I never complained about anything. I'm not even complaining about this. I'm just 146 00:10:16.679 --> 00:10:24.039 asking questions. I'm just I don't quite understand why our three marvels swapped and 147 00:10:24.200 --> 00:10:28.360 dar Ben doesn't swap with them. Now. I think they sort of almost 148 00:10:28.399 --> 00:10:33.240 intentionally show you her not using the Bengal while they're using powers to maybe say 149 00:10:33.279 --> 00:10:37.000 that's why. But it's it's hard to wrap my mind around that. That 150 00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:39.960 that definitely bothered me and bothered me. No, but she's if she's absorbing 151 00:10:41.120 --> 00:10:45.240 powers while someone else is using power, that is using a power, absorbing 152 00:10:45.279 --> 00:10:48.600 other people's powers so that the Bengals absorbing it. I know, but that 153 00:10:48.799 --> 00:10:52.919 is really that's using a power, though she doesn't know because she doesn't really 154 00:10:52.960 --> 00:10:56.639 have a power. You have to remember Kamala has mutated genees. She's a 155 00:10:56.720 --> 00:10:58.879 mutant. She has powers other than the Bengal, and you see that when 156 00:10:58.879 --> 00:11:01.679 the Mengel comes off, she still has power. But let me ask you 157 00:11:01.679 --> 00:11:05.679 a question. If a sponge is just sopping up water, isn't it working? 158 00:11:05.759 --> 00:11:09.120 Isn't it being used? The Bengal is sopping up power. Therefore it 159 00:11:09.159 --> 00:11:13.080 is being used. I know. What I'm saying is the clarification may very 160 00:11:13.080 --> 00:11:18.720 well be that Darben doesn't have any powers and that's why she's just utilizing the 161 00:11:18.759 --> 00:11:22.399 Bengal. I'm saying, that's that's possible. So you're just bother on question. 162 00:11:22.440 --> 00:11:24.480 You're answering your own question. Then I'm just trying to figure out what 163 00:11:24.480 --> 00:11:28.840 what I'm playing Devil's advocate here. But I was bothered by that from the 164 00:11:28.960 --> 00:11:31.519 jump, because that happens. Do you even't need me here? Can you 165 00:11:31.559 --> 00:11:35.720 just talk to yourself? Then? Cool? I had a feeling that you 166 00:11:35.799 --> 00:11:39.200 might not not like this, and I don't know if it hit for me, 167 00:11:39.320 --> 00:11:43.039 but I think it fits the goofy tone of the movie. M hm, 168 00:11:43.480 --> 00:11:46.120 they land on Aladna, this planet that in the comics, I think 169 00:11:46.120 --> 00:11:50.960 they speak in rhyme. In this they had them sing so sort of whatever 170 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:56.080 one and the same. It was goofy for sure. Look everything with this 171 00:11:56.480 --> 00:12:01.279 and the Flurkin I like the idea of but when it happened. I would 172 00:12:01.320 --> 00:12:05.480 just roll my eyes and be like, this is kind of stupid, this 173 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:09.840 is not great. Yeah, but coot. A lot of shit like that 174 00:12:09.000 --> 00:12:13.799 happens in the three Guardians movies, and I've never heard you call it stupid. 175 00:12:13.039 --> 00:12:16.159 I've called a lot of stuff in the second movie stupid. What are 176 00:12:16.159 --> 00:12:18.159 you talking about? And then you're like, you can't not the second one. 177 00:12:18.240 --> 00:12:22.399 Don't you have a major You have a one major gripe with the second 178 00:12:22.399 --> 00:12:24.559 movie. You haven't called a lot of shit stupid. I've called some stuff 179 00:12:24.559 --> 00:12:28.399 in the second one stupid. Yeah, I have go check the receipts. 180 00:12:28.720 --> 00:12:31.679 Point B. There's no audio for it. There's a lot of stuff like 181 00:12:31.759 --> 00:12:35.000 that in the Guardians movies, and it seems well, okay. Let me 182 00:12:35.039 --> 00:12:37.039 also say this is that with the Guardians movies, you are dealing with goofy 183 00:12:37.080 --> 00:12:41.519 your characters. You are dealing with a goofy your leading character in Peter Quill. 184 00:12:41.919 --> 00:12:45.279 With this one, although Kamala is kind of a goofy character, it 185 00:12:45.360 --> 00:12:48.159 still has to do with Carol Danvers story, so it feels out of place 186 00:12:48.240 --> 00:12:52.480 with her. Oh I don't agree, because I almost feel like the audience 187 00:12:52.559 --> 00:12:54.679 is viewing the story through Kamala, and so when you look at it like 188 00:12:54.759 --> 00:12:58.639 that, it makes a lot of sense because she has this like young girlish 189 00:12:58.759 --> 00:13:03.600 charm and this like happy to be their type thing, And that's what a 190 00:13:03.679 --> 00:13:05.679 lot of the movie felt like, and it felt it felt more like a 191 00:13:05.720 --> 00:13:09.600 Kamala movie than anything, even though, Yeah, but I would rather have 192 00:13:09.879 --> 00:13:15.799 Monica are there goofy silly Kamala in uh more serious situations because the other two 193 00:13:15.919 --> 00:13:20.440 characters are so serious. The Crack three cracks a little bit, but Monica 194 00:13:20.519 --> 00:13:24.799 Rambeau doesn't. She's She's pretty serious throughout, but you sort of understand why 195 00:13:24.840 --> 00:13:28.679 she's been through a lot of fucking shit. Nah. I just felt like 196 00:13:28.159 --> 00:13:33.639 this felt like an extension of the show Miss Marvel, which I really enjoyed 197 00:13:33.639 --> 00:13:37.000 and admittedly probably liked more than most. And I don't know how like for 198 00:13:37.120 --> 00:13:41.159 you, I don't understand how because you also really like like that show and 199 00:13:41.240 --> 00:13:46.000 not really like this movie I did. I really like her, but outside 200 00:13:46.000 --> 00:13:48.200 of her, I would fail the movie. I think the rest of the 201 00:13:48.240 --> 00:13:52.679 movie sucks. Yeah, I don't agree whatsoever. Okay, I'm really happy 202 00:13:52.720 --> 00:13:54.600 to hear that from you. I'm I'm happy that you enjoyed your experience. 203 00:13:54.759 --> 00:13:58.039 But like I, so, did you like the first Captain Marvel movie? 204 00:13:58.200 --> 00:14:03.159 Yeah? So you like that more than this? Yes? Oh my god, 205 00:14:03.240 --> 00:14:07.840 yes, I liked that one way more than this. This is better. 206 00:14:07.039 --> 00:14:11.840 Definitely this. This Field like just like a zombiefied version of what we 207 00:14:11.879 --> 00:14:15.399 had there. And like I said, the dialogue in this was terrible and 208 00:14:15.440 --> 00:14:20.639 the lines were not delivered well and it's this was a real hard sit for 209 00:14:20.679 --> 00:14:24.039 me. I enjoy this now, Listen. I didn't love this movie, 210 00:14:24.200 --> 00:14:26.919 but this movie was a lot of fun for me. I enjoyed it. 211 00:14:26.960 --> 00:14:28.759 I giggled. I ate some popcorn. I had a heck of a time. 212 00:14:28.919 --> 00:14:31.799 I had some podcorn. What the hell happened to you? I ate 213 00:14:31.840 --> 00:14:37.080 popcorn. When I check that receipt bad popcorn. I guess that was good 214 00:14:37.080 --> 00:14:43.320 popcorn. Maybe maybe you folks on the popcorn. I ate it really quick 215 00:14:43.519 --> 00:14:46.799 and then I had no more. So I almost finished at large this time. 216 00:14:46.919 --> 00:14:48.120 Oh, I only got a small because I didn't want to have too 217 00:14:48.159 --> 00:14:52.639 much for my tummy. Chuckfield, Yeah, I want to do the fun 218 00:14:52.679 --> 00:14:56.919 factor stuff. Sure, Mac, Let's get to the octagon. First up 219 00:14:56.039 --> 00:15:01.120 is fun Factor, and I do First off, Kamalaka is fun. And 220 00:15:01.159 --> 00:15:05.039 then also I liked and I wish they did more of this is them having 221 00:15:05.320 --> 00:15:09.159 difficulties swapping off with the powers. They did it a decent amount, but 222 00:15:09.360 --> 00:15:13.720 just do it more. Oh yeah, see, but I feel like that's 223 00:15:13.759 --> 00:15:16.799 the messiest part of the movie, and I think they did it just enough 224 00:15:16.840 --> 00:15:20.679 because the swipt sweat messiness with the story as well at the beginning, and 225 00:15:20.879 --> 00:15:24.519 that's where I felt like was the weakest part of the movie is the first 226 00:15:24.600 --> 00:15:28.759 act. So I was fine with the amount that they did it, and 227 00:15:28.799 --> 00:15:31.320 you got a good enough montage to show them not mastering it but figuring it 228 00:15:31.360 --> 00:15:35.480 out somewhat, so I was I was happy with that. Goote, because 229 00:15:35.559 --> 00:15:39.279 Kamala is in the whole movie. I thought the whole movie was fun. 230 00:15:39.279 --> 00:15:41.879 I had fun the whole run time. I actually liked the first act more 231 00:15:41.879 --> 00:15:46.879 than the more than the third act. I hated the third act. Really, 232 00:15:46.039 --> 00:15:50.159 Yeah, that's insane. It was. It was so cookie cutter and 233 00:15:50.200 --> 00:15:56.679 bland, and the villain the villains acting clearly the worst of the three acts. 234 00:15:56.840 --> 00:16:00.480 I'd argue that none of the three are that great, but the first 235 00:16:00.519 --> 00:16:03.559 one at least gives you a ton of Kamala and her family. Kamala is 236 00:16:03.600 --> 00:16:06.559 in the whole movie. Our family's in the whole movie, but it's more 237 00:16:07.279 --> 00:16:11.399 No, it's not it. It was spaced out. It was fucking good 238 00:16:11.440 --> 00:16:12.600 for that. Yeah, I know the movies in Space. I get it, 239 00:16:12.679 --> 00:16:18.559 Mac. I had fun in Space, and you clearly didn't. Satisfactor. 240 00:16:19.120 --> 00:16:23.919 There was the exact end of the movie and the end credits that, 241 00:16:25.360 --> 00:16:27.799 even though I knew one of them was coming, pretty satisfied by it. 242 00:16:29.159 --> 00:16:33.159 The end of the movie, which wasn't quite like a mirror post credit, 243 00:16:33.360 --> 00:16:36.799 that was pretty satisfying. We had an idea that was gonna happen, but 244 00:16:36.840 --> 00:16:38.519 the way they do it, because it's a Kamala thing, I think was 245 00:16:38.559 --> 00:16:42.399 awesome. And then obviously the mid credit here, which you and I were 246 00:16:42.440 --> 00:16:45.759 well aware of for a while. I'm sure a lot of folks at home 247 00:16:45.799 --> 00:16:51.039 weren't. But that's pretty cool. Even though I hate the person playing the 248 00:16:51.159 --> 00:16:55.759 character that's going opens up pandoras ing the character, let's just say that. 249 00:16:56.000 --> 00:16:57.960 Yeah. Yeah, But going into this movie, I knew it was gonna 250 00:16:59.000 --> 00:17:02.360 lack some sort of satisfy factor because, like I thought, like the best 251 00:17:02.399 --> 00:17:04.599 version of this movie might be thirty six hot Dogs, and I knew it 252 00:17:04.640 --> 00:17:08.319 was gonna be missing that like punch that a lot of the Marvel movies have, 253 00:17:08.400 --> 00:17:12.880 But to me it felt like satisfactor wise one of the ant Man movies. 254 00:17:12.960 --> 00:17:17.039 It was you knew you were capped going in, but you were hoping 255 00:17:17.039 --> 00:17:21.079 to enjoy the ride. Bor amed or were you bored during the movie? 256 00:17:21.720 --> 00:17:25.400 Really anything, because they don't think they drove it home or they tried to 257 00:17:25.440 --> 00:17:27.359 drive it home, and they didn't do it well. But the stuff with 258 00:17:27.720 --> 00:17:33.480 Monica and U and with Captain America not Captain America, Captain Marvel having to 259 00:17:33.519 --> 00:17:37.720 do with her leaving or her mom, Like, I don't think that was 260 00:17:37.839 --> 00:17:42.559 done very well. I wonder it did feel a little rush, but also 261 00:17:42.559 --> 00:17:45.119 they got shit to do, so I get that. I wonder if there 262 00:17:45.119 --> 00:17:52.839 was a couple of scenes like cut between Monica and Carol expanding upon that emotional 263 00:17:52.839 --> 00:17:57.599 connection because it is legitimate, and obviously Monica is still dealing with a lot 264 00:17:57.640 --> 00:18:02.480 of PTSD from being blipped, and while she was blipped, her mother dies 265 00:18:02.480 --> 00:18:06.799 from cancer. So that's the whole thing that we haven't explored a ton yet. 266 00:18:07.200 --> 00:18:08.480 WandaVision gets into it a little bit they get into it a little bit 267 00:18:08.519 --> 00:18:11.880 here, but that's a major thing. And I also think that's why when 268 00:18:11.880 --> 00:18:15.079 we get to the end of the movie she does what she does. But 269 00:18:15.839 --> 00:18:22.920 I felt like this movie hit It never quite hit a home run, but 270 00:18:22.000 --> 00:18:25.400 there was a ton of singles, a ton of doubles. It hit the 271 00:18:25.440 --> 00:18:30.160 right notes throughout. I wasn't bored like at all Halloween. Will this movie 272 00:18:30.200 --> 00:18:34.960 wane over time and I might forget a lot of this. It's gonna be 273 00:18:36.039 --> 00:18:38.079 hard to wange just because it's such a quick watch. Now, I'm not 274 00:18:38.519 --> 00:18:42.440 chipper to go rewatch it, but I don't have any ill will towards a 275 00:18:42.559 --> 00:18:48.880 rewatch, and I'm interested to see. So the Bengals are a big thing, 276 00:18:48.920 --> 00:18:51.799 and they've been setting them up along with the Ten Rings going forward, 277 00:18:51.839 --> 00:18:53.240 and that's gonna mean a lot, So there might be something to come back 278 00:18:53.279 --> 00:18:57.799 to this movie. Ah Quator, Is this movie better than twenty seventeen's Aquaman? 279 00:19:03.480 --> 00:19:04.880 That was a noise of me being like, I don't know, it's 280 00:19:04.920 --> 00:19:10.079 better by a lot. I don't think it is buy a lot. I 281 00:19:10.240 --> 00:19:15.720 don't think it is pants tensity, excite, bike mania? What got you 282 00:19:15.839 --> 00:19:18.799 going in this flick? The end of it. I really liked that last 283 00:19:18.839 --> 00:19:23.680 scene. I really like the power set of Monica Rambau, And part of 284 00:19:23.720 --> 00:19:26.960 it is because I don't fully understand it, and I just like that she 285 00:19:27.000 --> 00:19:30.279 can sort of do Oh she can do that too, Yeah, And I'm 286 00:19:30.279 --> 00:19:33.160 like, all right, whatever, It's both a good and bad like it 287 00:19:33.240 --> 00:19:37.759 leads to some fun stuff and they're able to use it to excuse away things. 288 00:19:37.039 --> 00:19:41.119 But I love her power set, so anytime like she did stuff, 289 00:19:41.160 --> 00:19:44.119 I thought that was really cool. And of course, you know, Kamala 290 00:19:44.200 --> 00:19:45.960 is just such a great character that I have fun watching her. I will 291 00:19:47.000 --> 00:19:49.240 say this too, is that much like Superman. I know that you're a 292 00:19:49.279 --> 00:19:55.680 sup boy, but much like Superman, Captain Marvel's just kind of boring with 293 00:19:55.759 --> 00:19:59.519 her power set where she can just kind of do anything. I agree. 294 00:19:59.559 --> 00:20:02.960 That's why I'm stunned you would say the first movie is better than this one 295 00:20:02.960 --> 00:20:04.279 because I felt, well, she barely had the powers. It was her 296 00:20:04.400 --> 00:20:08.720 learning who she was. Sure. Yeah, fall down seven times, Get 297 00:20:08.799 --> 00:20:12.519 up eight and I enjoyed that movie. I just thought this was clearly better. 298 00:20:12.720 --> 00:20:17.160 Max credit Union, Who would you like to give credit to Kamala Khan? 299 00:20:17.599 --> 00:20:21.839 The character is great. Saves the Malakan. Yeah, and what they 300 00:20:21.880 --> 00:20:25.000 may be setting up going forward. I hope they lean heavily on her. 301 00:20:25.519 --> 00:20:29.720 Her and Tom Holland as Spider Man. I think are the two lynchpins going 302 00:20:29.759 --> 00:20:33.279 forward hopefully. And having said that, Tom might only have Tom sorry, 303 00:20:33.319 --> 00:20:36.559 I know him very well. I might only have one movie left. Yeah, 304 00:20:36.599 --> 00:20:40.279 hopefully not. But maybe for those of you tardy to the Mac and 305 00:20:40.319 --> 00:20:44.039 Goo party, we rate everything on a forty hot dog basis. Mac, 306 00:20:44.400 --> 00:20:48.119 since you love this movie, I'll let you go first. I didn't love 307 00:20:48.119 --> 00:20:52.039 this movie. Again I go I went in knowing I wasn't gonna love the 308 00:20:52.039 --> 00:20:55.960 movie, but I really enjoyed my experience. Gu I love Kamala. Though 309 00:20:56.039 --> 00:20:59.920 that said, I love Kamala. I really liked that this movie skewed towards 310 00:21:00.160 --> 00:21:03.359 goofiness because she's the best character of the three. Totally, it felt a 311 00:21:03.359 --> 00:21:07.559 lot more like her show than it did the Captain Marvel movie or Wanda Vision. 312 00:21:07.960 --> 00:21:11.640 Also, like we've talked about her family's hysterical and they didn't use them 313 00:21:11.640 --> 00:21:15.519 too much, to use them an appropriate amount. I thought it was a 314 00:21:15.519 --> 00:21:18.880 seamless transition for them from the Disney Plus side onto the big screen. I 315 00:21:18.960 --> 00:21:22.720 also thought Monica was very good now one note, but she was very good 316 00:21:22.759 --> 00:21:26.519 at sort of being that emotional center of the three, So it worked for 317 00:21:26.599 --> 00:21:29.160 me. I always liked Brie Larche and everything she does. I have no 318 00:21:29.160 --> 00:21:32.519 complaints about her. I thought there was really good chemistry among the three. 319 00:21:32.519 --> 00:21:34.519 They bounced off each other. Well. Like I said with Monica, it 320 00:21:34.559 --> 00:21:38.319 also applies to the other two. The power sets are fun since we don't 321 00:21:38.359 --> 00:21:41.279 really understand them. They can kind of do this, kind of do that. 322 00:21:41.640 --> 00:21:45.119 It's basically whatever they want. But it works to a certain degree. 323 00:21:45.599 --> 00:21:49.880 The switching stuff that they use to hurt them and help them, it gets 324 00:21:49.920 --> 00:21:53.720 a little messy at times. I like it and it don't. It doesn't 325 00:21:53.759 --> 00:21:57.599 fully make sense because sometimes they seem to both these powers but don't switch, 326 00:21:57.640 --> 00:22:00.480 and then another time it happened. There was one time where two of them 327 00:22:00.599 --> 00:22:04.000 used it and they swapped with one. That did confuse me. But then 328 00:22:04.839 --> 00:22:08.119 it had the best line of the movie of oh it's just Carol. That 329 00:22:08.240 --> 00:22:11.039 was great. That's the funniest line of them. Not a great pop in 330 00:22:11.079 --> 00:22:15.079 my theater, Yeah, that was. But it's one of those things like 331 00:22:15.119 --> 00:22:18.119 I'm not diving deep into it because if I'm gonna forgive the time travel and 332 00:22:18.200 --> 00:22:21.720 endgame. I can't overthink this. It's just it just gets messy. The 333 00:22:21.720 --> 00:22:25.400 first act in general is messy, but they get they get past it quickly. 334 00:22:25.839 --> 00:22:29.599 Uh. The villain was fine. She was neither good nor bad, 335 00:22:29.640 --> 00:22:32.359 like you understood her motives. To me, she was like a better version 336 00:22:32.359 --> 00:22:37.480 of Ronan because you didn't really understand why though she's a better version of that. 337 00:22:40.279 --> 00:22:41.680 Yeah, she was a You understood what she was doing and why she 338 00:22:41.759 --> 00:22:44.960 was doing it, which is all you really need from a villain, I 339 00:22:44.960 --> 00:22:48.400 guess. But that's part of the reason why this movie is capped as well. 340 00:22:48.400 --> 00:22:52.599 You didn't you don't have a great villain potential here. Ultimately, like 341 00:22:52.680 --> 00:22:56.920 I felt like this was one of the best outcomes of this movie. And 342 00:22:56.000 --> 00:23:00.279 again I never thought this had forty dog potential or anything like that. I 343 00:23:00.279 --> 00:23:03.000 don't have a ton to complain about. It was a mix of that first 344 00:23:03.079 --> 00:23:06.759 Captain Marvel movie with a heavy dose of Miss Marvel, both of which I 345 00:23:06.839 --> 00:23:10.640 enjoyed, plus a nice little dash of Monica who has the awesome powers. 346 00:23:10.880 --> 00:23:14.759 I got this at thirty four Hot Dogs Goo number twenty two in the MCU, 347 00:23:15.279 --> 00:23:19.039 just behind Wakanda Forever, just above Miss Marvel, but it's technically tied 348 00:23:19.079 --> 00:23:23.240 with like six or seven MCU entries at thirty four hot Dogs and for twenty 349 00:23:23.319 --> 00:23:27.359 twenty three, this is number ten, just behind Quantum Mania and just above 350 00:23:27.440 --> 00:23:33.000 Renfield. You are gonna regret that No. I enjoyed this, nuch. 351 00:23:33.039 --> 00:23:34.480 I just wanted to say that, because you've told me that multiple times. 352 00:23:34.559 --> 00:23:38.000 I've given a suck. I actually it was fun. Right before recorded, 353 00:23:38.039 --> 00:23:41.599 one of my college roommates was a big MCU guy, Texamine, said he 354 00:23:41.720 --> 00:23:49.599 loved this movie. He's gonna regret that too. Mac. I love Kamala 355 00:23:49.680 --> 00:23:53.480 Khan. I love the Khan family, but I just didn't really care for 356 00:23:53.599 --> 00:23:59.000 Monica or for Carol. I do really like the power swapping in this I 357 00:23:59.000 --> 00:24:00.759 thought that was fun and I could have used more of it. And I 358 00:24:00.839 --> 00:24:06.920 actually I really liked that one scene where they knew what they were doing in 359 00:24:06.920 --> 00:24:10.440 their power swapping and they were planning things out ahead of time. That was 360 00:24:10.480 --> 00:24:12.000 a pretty fun team. I also liked them, you know, planning it 361 00:24:12.240 --> 00:24:18.920 cee. Mac. I'm being pretty positive. The dialogue fucking sucked. It 362 00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:23.640 was bad. I really hated from I didn't buy anything between any of these 363 00:24:23.759 --> 00:24:27.440 characters outside of Kamala. Well, that's so, that's the acting, that's 364 00:24:27.480 --> 00:24:32.000 not the dialogue. No, what they were given was pretty bad. I 365 00:24:32.039 --> 00:24:34.599 don't. I feel like you're picking this bone and there's nothing there to pick 366 00:24:34.640 --> 00:24:38.880 off of it. Speaking of being pretty bad, the villain stunk very one 367 00:24:38.960 --> 00:24:44.119 note not great. Better than stink though, am I right? Yeah? 368 00:24:44.640 --> 00:24:48.839 Were having a short run time, real bad pacing. I was what I 369 00:24:48.960 --> 00:24:52.440 was waiting for this thing to end. Jesus Christ, good, you gotta 370 00:24:52.480 --> 00:24:56.039 find a new theater. But then, having said that, by the time 371 00:24:56.079 --> 00:24:57.160 we got to that final scene, I'm like, give me more of this. 372 00:24:59.279 --> 00:25:03.799 I want this the whole time. I don't. That is insane to 373 00:25:03.839 --> 00:25:07.200 me because I enjoyed, like I want a second season of Miss Marvel. 374 00:25:07.200 --> 00:25:11.880 That's yes, I want Miss Marvel. I don't want the other two Marvels. 375 00:25:11.920 --> 00:25:15.920 The other two Marvels are not fun, which again brings me back to 376 00:25:15.000 --> 00:25:18.960 how did you enjoy Captain Marvel? Because she wasn't Marvel for most of it. 377 00:25:19.440 --> 00:25:25.240 She's a boring hero. Superman is a boring hero. But I again, 378 00:25:25.960 --> 00:25:30.480 what I'm pointing out here is your own points. It makes no sense 379 00:25:30.519 --> 00:25:33.680 for you to have enjoyed Captain Marvel the way you did and not like this. 380 00:25:33.119 --> 00:25:37.200 No, I like the Superman Origin, or you hated Captain Marvel and 381 00:25:37.240 --> 00:25:40.319 didn't like this. That makes sense. Don't you put words in my mouth 382 00:25:41.240 --> 00:25:45.440 or thoughts in my brain whatever you're trying to do. Right now, I 383 00:25:45.440 --> 00:25:48.720 got to say, that's twenty five hot dogs. Geez dude, that is 384 00:25:49.279 --> 00:25:55.920 low. It is low. I have this just below Iron Man three and 385 00:25:56.160 --> 00:26:00.160 just below just above the Captain America boys. Oh wow, Yeah, I 386 00:26:00.200 --> 00:26:04.920 got thirty five out of forty one and on the year twenty third, just 387 00:26:04.960 --> 00:26:08.480 below Indiana Jones. I'm an old man riding a horse in the subway. 388 00:26:08.559 --> 00:26:11.240 How many movies you at for twenty twenty three? By the thirty two, 389 00:26:11.559 --> 00:26:15.880 I think about thirty eight. I want to say I will get to like 390 00:26:15.960 --> 00:26:18.160 forty to fifty by the end of the year. But I got this long 391 00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:22.440 assplect to Hawaii to and from so I'm hoping to get two movies to drag 392 00:26:22.920 --> 00:26:26.359 brag. But I will say it's just better than the machine. What's the 393 00:26:26.400 --> 00:26:30.279 mission? Oh, the Burt Kreisler movie. So credit to them, Jesus 394 00:26:30.359 --> 00:26:33.119 Christ Good. I read to that. I feel like you're doing it doing 395 00:26:33.160 --> 00:26:37.519 a bit or something. I just fully don't understand how you didn't like this 396 00:26:37.599 --> 00:26:41.160 movie. It's not very good. I thought I thought it was like the 397 00:26:41.200 --> 00:26:47.359 definition of good. And I'm a marvel apologist. I am a Marvel I 398 00:26:47.400 --> 00:26:51.000 get paid by Disney to say nice things about their movies, and I just 399 00:26:51.039 --> 00:26:55.039 can't do it. Like, to me, the very definition of good, 400 00:26:55.119 --> 00:26:57.240 nuck great is this in the first ant man? I think, also coming 401 00:26:57.279 --> 00:27:02.440 off the back of It's really stuck with me the finale of Loki and how 402 00:27:02.519 --> 00:27:07.720 much I love that episode to then go to this. Five episodes prior to 403 00:27:07.720 --> 00:27:11.000 Loki were like, just fine, can you shut up for one second? 404 00:27:12.240 --> 00:27:15.200 But this ends on a high note too. No, not really. The 405 00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:18.319 third act is bad. I like, no, I like the final scene 406 00:27:18.319 --> 00:27:22.200 that doesn't have anything to do with the rest of the movie. I just 407 00:27:22.960 --> 00:27:26.039 I don't get it. I don't get it. Look, man, you 408 00:27:26.039 --> 00:27:30.920 can be off on Revis Island by yourself. Shall we spoil? Yeah, 409 00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:34.880 let's get to the spoiler spiler spiler spilers? Can I put up my favorite 410 00:27:34.920 --> 00:27:38.400 part of the movie, sure, best laugh of the entire movie. My 411 00:27:38.599 --> 00:27:45.920 entire theater was cackling when they were looking for someone to take the refugees and 412 00:27:47.160 --> 00:27:52.279 Valkyrie. You know, Rainbow rode in which, by the way, she's 413 00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:53.880 in this movie for a couple of minutes. She Rainbow rode it onto the 414 00:27:53.920 --> 00:27:56.759 ship. Yeah, and like it. Well, no, so it had 415 00:27:56.799 --> 00:28:02.160 like that Marvel panshot where like it showed her and like kind of like establishes 416 00:28:02.200 --> 00:28:04.279 her on screen and the lady sitting next to me. He goes, what 417 00:28:04.400 --> 00:28:12.559 the fuck is that everyone in the theater died? H that's pretty good. 418 00:28:12.680 --> 00:28:18.680 Yeah. I didn't know that the Guardians could still use the bifrost. I 419 00:28:18.720 --> 00:28:21.640 didn't know that that was still a thing that they could do. Does she 420 00:28:21.799 --> 00:28:25.759 have storm Breaker? Because storm Breaker has what it is is him Dahal's son 421 00:28:25.799 --> 00:28:27.720 probably has that, right, He's able to do that. Oh, did 422 00:28:27.759 --> 00:28:30.240 Thor toss it to him like, Hey, I'm gonna leave now, I'm 423 00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:33.400 gonna play on the beach. No, Well, Thor can do that, 424 00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:36.359 sure, but I'm saying him Dahal could do that. I'm pretty sure his 425 00:28:36.519 --> 00:28:41.319 Himdal had a sword that could do that well to operate the bridge. Yes, 426 00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:45.119 I think him Dal could do it. Anyways, because remember in Endgame 427 00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:49.279 he sends Or in Infinity War he sends Hulk to Earth. Do you think 428 00:28:49.359 --> 00:28:52.960 that there was an original line in the movie where Carol's like, wait, 429 00:28:52.039 --> 00:28:56.640 how do you do that without all of your technology? And then she goes 430 00:28:56.720 --> 00:29:00.160 just shut the fuck up. So I'm pretty sure he's shoots her there. 431 00:29:00.680 --> 00:29:07.519 The second thing is what the biggest takeaway from Secret Invasion is the President hates 432 00:29:07.519 --> 00:29:11.720 Aliens, hates and hates everyone. So did she take the scrolls back to 433 00:29:11.839 --> 00:29:15.519 New Asgard on Earth or are they elsewhere? No? New Asguard Earth. 434 00:29:15.559 --> 00:29:18.519 That's definitely why they assume that though, because that's what she runs. Where 435 00:29:18.519 --> 00:29:22.400 else would she take them? They very easily could have gone to a new 436 00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:26.279 planet because the President's like, hey, war with Aliens? Maybe, But 437 00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:30.279 I would assume that she would take them to the land that she now owns. 438 00:29:30.559 --> 00:29:33.480 Yeah, that's what I'm That's what I one would think on on surface 439 00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:37.240 level, But then you consider Secret I'm a surface level might have a planet. 440 00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:42.240 I'm a surface level thinker. I love windows products. What I really 441 00:29:42.400 --> 00:29:48.440 liked about this movie Goo is not operating on Earth, finally being out in 442 00:29:48.519 --> 00:29:51.920 space. And the only movies that I've really done that is if any war 443 00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:55.920 endgame in the Guardians movie So I liked that because what it does is you're 444 00:29:55.960 --> 00:29:57.720 not sitting there questioning, oh, where's so and so, where's where's this 445 00:29:57.759 --> 00:30:02.599 place? That I did? I question that at the end. So uh, 446 00:30:02.720 --> 00:30:04.480 Like I said earlier, I thought that Nick Furro was a little too 447 00:30:04.519 --> 00:30:08.759 loosey goosey if you asked me, And it really was. At the end 448 00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:18.960 when Barten Denbar dar Ben bab Bar is trying to steal the Sun and she 449 00:30:18.160 --> 00:30:22.799 wants the Marvels to go there because she wants Miss Marvel's Bengal, and Nick 450 00:30:22.839 --> 00:30:26.400 Fury even points that out, and she's like, I'm not gonna lose. 451 00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:29.119 He's like, all right, cool, see you later. He's not like, 452 00:30:29.160 --> 00:30:32.519 you know, you stay here and I will call any of the other 453 00:30:32.759 --> 00:30:36.039 heroes. They're not gonna lose with Captain Marvel, and they did lose the 454 00:30:36.079 --> 00:30:40.079 Bengals. It looks like she did lose for a second. Yeah, yeah, 455 00:30:40.440 --> 00:30:44.039 so a Bengal for a second. I feel like Nick Fury on his 456 00:30:44.119 --> 00:30:47.920 game says, no, I'm gonna send war Machine instead. No, she 457 00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:49.920 very easily explains it. The only way to save the universe is to unite 458 00:30:49.960 --> 00:30:52.559 the two Bengals. So yes, that is a risk we're taking, but 459 00:30:52.599 --> 00:30:56.319 we need to also obtain the second Bengal to save the universe. I'm just 460 00:30:56.359 --> 00:31:00.240 saying Nick Fury wouldn't have done that in the past. I think he absolutely 461 00:31:00.279 --> 00:31:03.920 would have because he has no attachment to Kamala Kon. He would have gave 462 00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:08.519 it to someone better, like who strong, who could go out into space. 463 00:31:08.640 --> 00:31:11.960 I just said, war Machine, what were She's not going out to 464 00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:17.400 space? You shouldn't be Can you imagine that Bengal on his warm don cheetle 465 00:31:17.440 --> 00:31:21.039 would get up into the upper atmosphere and fucking piss himself, war Machine, 466 00:31:21.039 --> 00:31:25.720 where'd you put the Bengal? It's not on your wrist cling It's not as 467 00:31:25.720 --> 00:31:30.440 cock mac cock talk. Yeah. Nice. Yeah, we got a review 468 00:31:30.519 --> 00:31:33.240 saying that we needed more cock, So there we go. That's very true. 469 00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:37.000 Thirty sevens. Let's get to the biggest takeaway from this movie the mid 470 00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:41.640 credit scene. But so if the biggest takeaways and the best parts are the 471 00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:45.519 end of the movie and the mid credit scenes, we've already said this a 472 00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:51.279 million times, that speaks poorly of the movie. I knew going in this 473 00:31:51.319 --> 00:31:55.480 movie wasn't gonna be great. This movie is great. You know what you're 474 00:31:55.519 --> 00:31:57.960 talking about. Uh. The biggest takeaway clearly though, is the X Men, 475 00:31:59.000 --> 00:32:01.559 which would be the big away and any non Avengers movie X Men. 476 00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:06.559 But also it just says that those X Men are in an alternate reality. 477 00:32:06.799 --> 00:32:09.039 Yeah, so here's the biggest thing. So number one, we get Kelsey 478 00:32:09.079 --> 00:32:16.240 Grammer voicing Voicing Beast slash Hank McCoy, And then we get do you think 479 00:32:16.279 --> 00:32:19.480 they tried to put the makeup on him at first? And he's like, 480 00:32:19.839 --> 00:32:23.680 I've got too much shit around with a limp? Yeah, I know him 481 00:32:23.839 --> 00:32:28.119 at the end of Days of Future Past, and he didn't look great. 482 00:32:28.400 --> 00:32:30.640 I'll be honest, didn't look great there. But he is here as the 483 00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:36.920 voice. And we see Maria rambo a variant of her. She might be 484 00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:38.880 binary, which I guess is a hero, but maybe just Captain mart is 485 00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:44.480 one of the two that the variant that was in Doctor Strange. No sure 486 00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:49.440 or not. I'm just I'm asking you don't snap at me. They also 487 00:32:49.480 --> 00:32:53.000 of course reference Charles, so they're in the X Men mansion. But because 488 00:32:53.799 --> 00:32:59.440 Maria Rambau is there and because it's a CGI Beast, I don't think this 489 00:32:59.559 --> 00:33:02.440 is the X Men that we know already. I think this is a version 490 00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:06.279 of The X Men we haven't met. I think it could be. I 491 00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:08.720 don't think there's like a definitive yes, No, I don't think it's definitive. 492 00:33:08.759 --> 00:33:12.880 But I think it would be a weird choice to have like seven movies 493 00:33:12.920 --> 00:33:17.319 with Kelsey Grammer as Beast and have him not be CGI, even like if 494 00:33:17.359 --> 00:33:21.640 you look to the younger version of Nicholas Holt, I was gonna ask you, 495 00:33:21.680 --> 00:33:23.799 do you think they tried to get Holt first? I don't know. 496 00:33:23.880 --> 00:33:29.279 That's a good question though, but those were not CGI beasts and this one 497 00:33:29.480 --> 00:33:36.160 is. I think it's because Kelsey Grammar is really old and it's really easy 498 00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:39.359 just to see giam. I think also that means it's a different version of 499 00:33:39.359 --> 00:33:42.759 the X Men. That's all I'm saying. I think that to me is 500 00:33:43.000 --> 00:33:45.480 all right. So go on Twitter right now? Do you side with Mac 501 00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:50.279 or Goo? Have I even said which side I side with? Uh? 502 00:33:50.680 --> 00:33:54.200 One of the cooler scenes in the movie here Goo is in the conclusion. 503 00:33:54.519 --> 00:33:59.079 This is the best scene of the movie. After they've saved the universe. 504 00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:05.759 You have have Kamala Khan sneaking into Kate Bishop's apartment Nick Fury style sitting down 505 00:34:05.759 --> 00:34:09.840 with the hat in the Shadows, and she asked Kate Bishop to join a 506 00:34:09.880 --> 00:34:14.719 team. She's built pretty much the exact same dialogue that Nick Fury gives to 507 00:34:14.760 --> 00:34:16.760 iron Man in iron Man one, and she tries to be like kind of 508 00:34:16.760 --> 00:34:20.760 cool, intimidating, and then the jig is up because Kate Bishop's like what 509 00:34:21.079 --> 00:34:25.239 and then she's like, I got feelers out to Cassie Laning. So this 510 00:34:25.360 --> 00:34:30.320 is a setup obviously for the Young Avengers, which I think we'll see them 511 00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:32.480 maybe in the Thunderbolts as a team for the first time. That's that's my 512 00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:37.960 guess. And the other other thing in this movie, go Goosta Flirkin gives 513 00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:40.679 birth to thirty other Flurkins. You think about that, it's too much. 514 00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:45.320 I don't know what flirkins can do. That's another thing, because like inside 515 00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:49.000 their mouths is just a whole. It's like a quantum realm inside their mouths. 516 00:34:49.000 --> 00:34:51.599 They can just fit whatever they want. That was a bit much. 517 00:34:51.719 --> 00:34:54.880 That's Oh, I enjoyed that. I liked the idea once again, but 518 00:34:54.920 --> 00:34:59.840 I'm just like, this is too much. Other than Sam Jackson saying, 519 00:34:59.840 --> 00:35:01.320 oh, it's just Kara, what killed me? Was the PA announcer on 520 00:35:01.320 --> 00:35:05.599 the saber station saying don't run, the Flirkins are gonna save us, and 521 00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:10.199 everyone's still running. Yeah, it was great, it was real good. 522 00:35:10.360 --> 00:35:14.920 Yeah, thirty four hot dougskoo, Am I being too hard on this movie? 523 00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:16.960 Mac? I think so. I think I've ever been too high. 524 00:35:17.000 --> 00:35:21.079 I think you're being too soft. No, if the first Captain Marvel three, 525 00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:25.960 I wouldn't be surprised if what the general consensus is is like twenty nine 526 00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:31.599 or thirty hot Dogs and you're just being Daddy Bear, I'm being Mama Bear. 527 00:35:31.760 --> 00:35:35.400 I don't know. I feel like it's hard to not like this movie 528 00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:37.960 now. I don't know if anyone's gonna fucking love this movie sounds my college 529 00:35:38.039 --> 00:35:43.599 roommate, but it's fun, it's quick, Kamala Khan's great. Like I 530 00:35:43.960 --> 00:35:46.159 have Miss Marvel at thirty four, I think I've Captain Marvel at thirty two, 531 00:35:46.519 --> 00:35:50.960 maybe thirty three. And this I thought was for sure better than the 532 00:35:50.960 --> 00:35:53.280 first movie and on par if not better than the Miss Marvel series. If 533 00:35:53.360 --> 00:36:00.599 you ever become someone get that gets your like movie writings onto like rotten tomatoes, 534 00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:04.800 could your first one be either this is fucking awesome or this is fucking 535 00:36:04.920 --> 00:36:10.519 terrible and just get kicked off immediately. I'll use flirking instead. This is 536 00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:13.679 flirking terrible. No no, no, no, no no no. We 537 00:36:13.760 --> 00:36:15.880 don't bleep each other out. No no, I'll bleed my asps. I 538 00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:22.079 won't bleed my ce'es. I'll bleed as my conservative writer. But he uses 539 00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:29.920 the word cut quite a bit, like he wouldn't even say ass. He 540 00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:32.199 used took us and then in the same sentence, you only got one. 541 00:36:32.239 --> 00:36:45.519 Come on, man, let's get into Max and maxac could be anything that 542 00:36:45.599 --> 00:36:49.400 could be a boat in mac. I don't have anything in your sack. 543 00:36:49.719 --> 00:36:55.199 Do you have anything in your sack? I got nothing. I'm I'm I'm 544 00:36:55.199 --> 00:37:00.559 interested to see. Uh. Some of the fallout from our Loki Discussiro there 545 00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:04.039 talking about what we do for Cain going forward and who the big bad is 546 00:37:04.079 --> 00:37:07.400 gonna be. They have a movie planned and named Kane Dynasty, so clearly 547 00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:14.360 he's still in there. But I think the conclusion of Loki obviously opens up 548 00:37:14.840 --> 00:37:17.960 stories into this X Men type of universe that we see at the end of 549 00:37:19.039 --> 00:37:22.320 the marvels, as well as maybe Doctor Doom comes in here, and that's 550 00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:25.599 how they introduce the Fantastic Four, which I think is a year and a 551 00:37:25.639 --> 00:37:30.400 half away, is that movie. So there's a lot of possibilities on the 552 00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:34.719 horizon and a big part of that is because of the Loki finale. So 553 00:37:35.079 --> 00:37:38.800 I'm pretty intrigued as to where Marvel is going now. It also could get 554 00:37:38.840 --> 00:37:43.679 real messy, but I'm looking forward to it. Also, Tom Hidlston was 555 00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:46.639 on the Jimmy Fallon show That is our Bible, of course, and he 556 00:37:46.840 --> 00:37:52.480 said he pretty much made it known that this is kind of it for him 557 00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:53.960 and Marvel. Well that's what he said. At least I wouldn't be surprised 558 00:37:53.960 --> 00:37:59.320 if he shows up again, but if this is it for him, his 559 00:37:59.360 --> 00:38:01.920 finale was great. Yeah, I agree, great send off for the character. 560 00:38:04.440 --> 00:38:07.599 Some of the rumors I've seen as he might pop up in Secret Wars 561 00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:10.599 like maybe be like a pull in the strings type of character. But I 562 00:38:10.639 --> 00:38:14.719 don't know. I almost don't want him to come back because it was such 563 00:38:14.719 --> 00:38:19.800 a good sendoff it was, But I also I want we might not see 564 00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:22.440 this version of Thor again, but I still want to see these two together, 565 00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:27.639 like one more time. Hemsworth and Hittleston. How do you really do 566 00:38:27.800 --> 00:38:30.039 that? Though? Being where Loki's at. You know, how would they 567 00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:34.559 get that to work if they both get killed and they both go to is 568 00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:38.599 it Valhalla? Valhalla? But so Loki being at the end of time essentially 569 00:38:38.679 --> 00:38:43.639 now, but he's not the Citadel because I think that's where rens Layer is, 570 00:38:43.639 --> 00:38:46.079 so it's just his own little chair area for him to be removed from 571 00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:49.920 there. I think he's gonna be killed, right, so maybe a Kang 572 00:38:50.039 --> 00:38:52.159 kills him and then and now that he's a good guy, maybe we're gonna 573 00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:55.639 vary it we get him as a variant. Maybe I guess he can't do 574 00:38:55.679 --> 00:38:58.960 it. I guess I don't know. It's to be hard to do. 575 00:38:59.079 --> 00:39:00.880 Yeah, hard to explain, but once again, awesome send off. I'm 576 00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:05.960 cool with it. The last twenty minutes of Loki were phenomenal. Would you 577 00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:09.639 I mean, Iron Man Tony Stark best send off so far? Would you 578 00:39:09.679 --> 00:39:14.920 put it above or below the sendoff for Captain America before he shows up again? 579 00:39:17.199 --> 00:39:23.199 Ah, it was very satisfying to see Steve Rogers go back and live 580 00:39:23.199 --> 00:39:28.039 out the life you wanted to live. It was more fitting for the Loki 581 00:39:28.119 --> 00:39:31.000 character, So wrestle that how you want. Well, because they both got 582 00:39:31.039 --> 00:39:35.599 what they wanted. Loki didn't really get what he wanted. Well, he 583 00:39:35.679 --> 00:39:38.239 begrudgingly made a second no, but he did, and if you haven't seen 584 00:39:38.320 --> 00:39:43.519 the end of it, just turned this podcast off. All he's ever wanted 585 00:39:43.559 --> 00:39:47.639 in all of these movies is a throne. He got his throne, I 586 00:39:47.719 --> 00:39:51.199 guess, so, if you want to frame it like that, he is 587 00:39:51.239 --> 00:39:52.679 sitting on a throne. He is sitting on a throne. He has what 588 00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:58.280 he wants, all right, that I'll do it for this episode of Mac 589 00:39:58.280 --> 00:40:00.280 and Goo Mac where can people find us? You can find us on Twitter 590 00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:04.800 and on Instagram at Mac and person goood It's max Shift seven Good includes Facebook, 591 00:40:04.800 --> 00:40:07.880 Sitter Tuning, Cashbuck, Spreaker, Google Play, I Heard Radio. 592 00:40:07.320 --> 00:40:10.360 We're on Spotify, but more importantly we're on Apple Podcasts. Get on there, 593 00:40:10.400 --> 00:40:13.800 rate review, subscribe five stars. If you do that, we'll get 594 00:40:13.840 --> 00:40:15.719 you a free Mac and gooot t shirt from the folks over at Watertown Sportswear. 595 00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:21.039 That's Watertown Sportswear on thirty four modbn Street in Watertown, Watertownsports war dot 596 00:40:21.039 --> 00:40:25.000 com experts, screen printing and embroidery, public dot Com. We're about to 597 00:40:25.039 --> 00:40:31.119 have a bunch more merch and a change of our store on Tea public for 598 00:40:31.360 --> 00:40:35.239 the I think you should leave stuff. We're gonna have a bunch of season 599 00:40:35.320 --> 00:40:38.360 three stuff coming out, and as soon as we do have our cloth is 600 00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:44.000 hairs, I'm gonna buy one hundred of them. I rewatched that sketch the 601 00:40:44.079 --> 00:40:47.880 other day, and Tim Meadows is just perfect. Had I think I had 602 00:40:47.920 --> 00:40:51.480 a top five in my rank. It's tough five or top six, but 603 00:40:51.840 --> 00:40:54.039 that's one of the ones that like definitely gets better each time. But also 604 00:40:54.159 --> 00:41:00.000 because I'm usually annoyed when uh Tim Robinson hands off a great character to someone 605 00:41:00.039 --> 00:41:02.599 else, because I'm like, I would rather see him do it. But 606 00:41:04.119 --> 00:41:07.599 Tim Meadows nails this one. Yeah. Yeah. Oh by the way, 607 00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:12.159 goo yeah. Did you see the who were the uh the shorts now on 608 00:41:12.280 --> 00:41:15.760 SNL those oh do not destroy? Did you see the short they did with 609 00:41:16.199 --> 00:41:20.840 uh Shallow May this past weekend? No, I'm gonna watch it in a 610 00:41:20.840 --> 00:41:23.079 second. It's like, it feels like Tim Robinson. It feels like a 611 00:41:23.119 --> 00:41:27.679 Tim Robinson rip off. Now, those guys are funny enough, but that 612 00:41:27.679 --> 00:41:30.559 feels like a Tim Robinson's sketch. Watch it and tell me I don't mean 613 00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:34.519 to speak ill of people. But I mean their stuff feels like a mix 614 00:41:34.639 --> 00:41:38.000 of Lonely Island and Tim Robinson. They're just capitalizing on what the other two 615 00:41:38.039 --> 00:41:40.639 had done successfully. Yeah, And then also mean they were on foul on 616 00:41:40.679 --> 00:41:45.280 the other day, and two of their fathers were writers on SNL, so 617 00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:47.199 it's like, all right, yeah, all right, that makes sense. 618 00:41:47.280 --> 00:41:51.840 But also I saw the first four minutes of their Peacock movie coming out and 619 00:41:51.960 --> 00:41:54.800 Conan O'Brien's in it, and Conan made me laugh. All right, when's 620 00:41:54.880 --> 00:41:59.519 that out? Is it out already? H soon? Okay? I thought 621 00:41:59.519 --> 00:42:01.119 it was a tea and my cousin told me, no, it's a movie. 622 00:42:01.239 --> 00:42:04.400 I'm like, I believe it's a movie. Yeah, shut up, 623 00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:08.440 dude. All right, So, uh, news dump. At the end 624 00:42:08.440 --> 00:42:12.280 of the week, you go have fun. Yeah, you go to you 625 00:42:12.320 --> 00:42:15.639 go to Hella'i. We'll see how if I ever come back. Did you 626 00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:17.679 win your raffle? No, it did not win. It looks like Max 627 00:42:17.800 --> 00:42:22.280 is coming back. Max coming back. That would have been nice. So 628 00:42:22.679 --> 00:42:28.800 yeah, I will find someone'll I'll go to our deep bench of mac and 629 00:42:28.840 --> 00:42:31.480 Goo felins and get doc or something. Well, wait, are you are 630 00:42:31.519 --> 00:42:35.199 you catching any screenings this week because we have like fucking three or four. 631 00:42:35.679 --> 00:42:40.119 I am I am going to see Next Goal wins tomorrow night or tonight, 632 00:42:40.679 --> 00:42:45.280 last night, whenever you're listening to this, it'd be last night because this 633 00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:50.800 is Goose Day right now. And then I am not seeing Napoleon because it's 634 00:42:51.000 --> 00:42:53.559 being shown at one o'clock in the afternoon. Sadly, I actually do really 635 00:42:53.559 --> 00:42:58.000 want to see it, mainly because Ridley Scott is the man, like, 636 00:42:58.559 --> 00:43:00.079 he is just the best. He's on a page right now, he is 637 00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:06.360 on a James Cameron rampage right now. Someone called him out for not having 638 00:43:06.559 --> 00:43:08.559 historically accurate things in the movie, and he just goes, fuck you, 639 00:43:09.519 --> 00:43:14.639 like I respect that. What a great response. I do respect that. 640 00:43:14.760 --> 00:43:17.000 Yes, And then was there another one? Wish? I think was the 641 00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:20.760 other one. I'm just not gonna see Wish. I don't want to see 642 00:43:20.800 --> 00:43:22.559 Wish. Okay, fair enough, but maybe I will, who knows. 643 00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:27.599 Yeah, all right, Mac, you enjoy your flight. Hopefully you get 644 00:43:27.599 --> 00:43:30.840 to watch a bunch of sweet movies on the theater plane the plane theater, 645 00:43:31.199 --> 00:43:34.480 on the plane theater. Yeah. Are you on one of those planes that 646 00:43:34.639 --> 00:43:37.519 has a theater on it? Yeah? Of course, I spent up for 647 00:43:37.559 --> 00:43:39.360 that. Yeah, would people spend up for one of those? You think? 648 00:43:39.679 --> 00:43:43.960 Now? Probably not for those seats, for sure. That's a good 649 00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:46.960 point. I would love comfortable seats. I've never done a flight this long 650 00:43:47.000 --> 00:43:50.199 eleven or twelve hours, so I don't know what the seat's gonna I've done 651 00:43:50.239 --> 00:43:52.079 twenty four hours and I wanted to kill myself. Yeah I might. That 652 00:43:52.159 --> 00:43:54.719 might be me in a day. Yeah, so all right, Tuesdays or 653 00:43:54.760 --> 00:44:06.639 Guesdays I abuse kangaroos. I please flip the cassette over to side B to 654 00:44:06.679 --> 00:44:07.760 continue the adventure.