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Yeah. You know what's great is
as um stus, we clean the whole

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boat well that includes the captain's porters
and without you know there were there were

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some secret hiding in his in his
room. Welcome to Bart another brands banking

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new episode or with China Um of
another Below Deck podcast. Today is a

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very very special day. Today is
not only a searette interview, but rather

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a kind of companionship. Today it's
a searette recap. Um. We haven't

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really done that. We've tried it. I think we did a one time

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with Gabby who got absolutely shit faced
that I think the fans were really pissed

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off. But as we're going back
into the vault, we have been exploring

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season one of Below Deck og and
joining us today is one of the cast

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members of the Maiden Voyage of Honor, none other than the engineer herself.

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Sam. Hi, Sam, thank
you for joining us, Thank you,

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thanks for doing this. Happy to
me. This is gonna be fun because

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when you get to look back and
Sam, I don't know if you've kept

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track of this. This is the
ten year anniversary this month of the release

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of this season of Below Deck.
Did you keep track of that? Sam?

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It's been more than ten years,
hasn't it well? Starting off pretty

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adversarial. They're saying bad does not
like to be corrected. She it debuted,

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but it debuted in June of twenty
thirteen, but she may be recollecting

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that the film was a year prior. See, there's a lot of tension

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already. This is gonna get yet. I don't think there's any tension.

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I think we got Pat playing the
role of Adrian, and Sam is Sam.

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But Sam, we're going to kind
of ask how this was throughout the

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episode recap, so I think we
should just get into the first thing that

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happens, because we have to ask
you what it was like being aboard a

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vessel where the patrons were kicked off
the boat for cocaine, so that,

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yeah, you know I was.
I was kind of removed from that whole

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happening. I don't know where I
was, like down in the launcher room

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probably, and Kat was up cleaning
the cleaning all the heads and found it.

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So you know, I didn't really
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the fact and someone that, oh, they the guests are leaving or the

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guests are getting kicked so you know, yes, is what it is.

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All right, so you can be
on record now finally giving some clarity to

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the rumors over the years, did
you guys in fact collectively have a mutiny

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once the guests were kicked off the
boat? Saying basically, your fears were

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that producers had created this drama,
had planted the cocaine, and you guys

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refused to film. Is that true? Can you explain what that was?

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Like? Oh? What you lost
me? There was there No, there

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was no planting of any drugs that
I'm aware of. Ye. I didn't

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refuse to film after that. So
none of you refused to film after those

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guys were kicked off the boat.
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it was a welcomed break because we
didn't have to serve people for the next

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next week. We just got some
downtime, right, So nice, So

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play in the ocean. Who comes
up with these stupid fucking rooms? It's

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an article if you can believe it? Yeah, all right, So let's

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let's just spell some rumors or bad
info out on the internet about this season.

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Another rumor going around was that Adrian
was not supposed to be the chief

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stew She was in fact hired on
the show to be a chef. Can

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you speak to that? Oh man, you're making me, You're making my

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memory. Really do some work here, Okay, I do recall something about

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that. I think that so I
believe Adrian was underqualified to be a cheap

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stew. I don't think she had
held that position before. And most of

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her previous work experience had been as
a chef on board much much smaller charter

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vessels, and so really hired to
be the chef or not. But I

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know she was underqualified to be the
stew or the chief stew. And I

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also know that she was in not
even the sizzle reel. But like I

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guess in the production world, like
when they were pitching this long before it

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ever became a reality, was they
put together these I don't know, you

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guys would probably know what they're called, like little mini cuts of like what

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it could look like real. Yeah, yeah, And so I think Adrian

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was part of that, and the
intention was to only use her for that

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and then recast season one or the
pilot season. So I don't know how

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or when they decided to bring her
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thing. Ever, They're just like, let's have somebody who has cooked on

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fishing boats. Be the chief stew
of this super yacht. It'll make for

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great Um. Yeah, Sam,
how are you and Adrian doing today?

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Are you guys fast friends? Do
you guys still talk? Oh? Bessies.

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Yeah, it's nice to know that
a decade can't heal old wounds.

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No no, no, no,
no, no no, no full sarcasm.

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Idea, how she is or where
she is? Um, no clue?

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Yeah, all right, A few
more questions if you don't mind,

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before we get started and start getting
into the episode, and then of course

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we'll pepper in questions from there.
Um, what was it like, because

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this was, in my memory an
instant hit for Bravo. Did you experience

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and like, now, Bravo you've
seen what happened with the Housewives and you

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know the Instagram followings and everybody's making
hay out of being on you know,

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a couple of seasons of whatever Bravo
offering. What was it like at the

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time of the airing for you personally? Um, it was pretty wild.

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Yeah. I mean we had no
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were filming that it was that we
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Bravo because it was such a pilot
season and they were like, oh,

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yeah, we're pitching this to Bravo
where Bravo was interested. And then it

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wasn't until like the end of the
episode they flew somebody out to Saint Martin

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from Bravo and then we were like, oh, maybe this is gonna be

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on Bravo. Like, I don't
know. It was bizarre. So yeah,

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when we when it started airing,
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that point, I had moved to
Los Angeles and you know, would start

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to get recognized out and about,
and it was just very surreal where you

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live in Los Angeles. I lived
in Encino for a while. Whoa,

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whoa, Hey, I am so
sorry because we have not asked the most

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importan portant question ever. And I
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think that I think that it's hurt
the podcast quite quite frankly, because we

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didn't ask question because we didn't all, right, here it is, Sam,

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how'd you get on the show?
How'd you get on the show?

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Soon? Um, so, I
was working at an engineering office and my

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mom actually sent me a Facebook link
that it was just a really basic little

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flyer that would pop up on the
side of Facebook. This was like the

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whole Facebook interface doesn't even look like
it does today. Yeah, but it

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was a little fly popped up and
it just had like a picture of a

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Caribbean island and it said want to
work on a yacht question marks. And

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my mom used to work on yachts, and so she thought, whoa,

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let me just send this over to
my daughter who's miserable in her engineering career.

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And so I clicked the link,
seeing what it is, and the

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initial application was super short. It
wanted like your name, your experience,

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and a paragraph about yourself in a
touch with photo and that was it.

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And so I had no idea that
it was like for a reality show,

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that it was going to be on
Bravos, none of that. I submitted

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it like it was just a basic
application, and then like within a week

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I had a producer or a casting
agent calling me wanting to set up a

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like an interview, a face to
face or a you know, like a

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zoom interview. Because now it's it's
such a different process. People are actually

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going to Yatti school to then kind
of jump onto this show, and I

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think that's kind of changed the show
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speaking of you know, I want
to pause on that question, but thank

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you for letting us know one the
last question, and I think it's it's

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an important question because all right,
so Sam, I watched the show when

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it originally aired. I loved it
instantly. My cousin Christie was visiting for

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the summer. That's what we watched
every night that when it aired. We

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loved it, and I was absolutely
confused when season two aired and basically it

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was completely recast. Can you walk
us through a little bit about how that

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happened because we're only on season episode
three of the season. I love this

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season. I'm just it's just the
way it's shot. It's beautiful, the

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casting was perfect. What was it
like when you found out you wouldn't be

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returning, or perhaps you didn't even
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returned for a second season. I
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I think that it has a lot
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and things like that, and if
they feel that they got like okay,

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so I really feel like the reason
they cast me initially is because they wanted

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like a newbie, a party girl, um, someone who was single,

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and when I shared the story about
my sister, that was like gold to

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them, right. They wanted to
kind of exploit that, unfortunately, and

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so they got all that out of
me. That's all I had to give,

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you know what I mean? I
am who I am. I showed

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all my cards in season one,
and so I don't know. I can't

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speak for the casting producer, the
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two, but it is bizarre because
I became pretty close friends with um,

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you know, Mark Cronin and and
Lisa and the whole gang, and you

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know, hung out together in Los
Angeles, and so I was I was

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a little shocked too that I didn't
get picked up for a season two business

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kid, you were never friends with
them, they were using yes And also,

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by the way your story nowadays,
people just show up in the expectation

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is just get blackout, drunken bang
your coworker. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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Well, okay, so let's jump
in to the next part of the

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episode. It we I don't know
if you're watching below deck now or if

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you care, but right now,
the series is kind of gnawing at itself

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over this throuble, and it would
seem as though in episode two of season

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one, the groundwork was laid for
a throuble. Ah Cat CJ and Sam.

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Now you and CJ were fast friends. You were shaving his back within

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moments of knowing him. Why did
you say yes to doing that? And

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why did you do it? Oh? Man, I don't know. I

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guess a kind person. Yeah,
help help scrout you know what I mean?

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You're a very street person, because
that is disgusting. So Sam,

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you were sitting idly by while Kat, who seems like a great person had

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quite you know, quite a bit
of a drinking problem at the stage in

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your life, was trying to fuck
CJ in the bathroom. Now CJ um

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has a little convo with you after
Kat, Um I think falls over somewhere,

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and he puts you at ease by
saying, Sam, don't worry,

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I'm not into fake tits? Now
were you? How is? See?

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What's your your read on c CJ
as a person having spent an entire season

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with him? Is he a bit
of a gross coxman? Or you guys

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still friendly? What? What?
What's his h what's his beat? Oh?

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Man? Um? I mean I
said this in the reunion, Um

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I ever had dealings for CJ.
Yeah, I was never attracted to him.

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I know that the season portrays me
being into him. I know they

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said, like there were clips of
me saying that CJ was hot, but

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if you notice, I didn't say
CJ's hot. I just said he's hot.

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And so it was like this Franken
clip of me talking about some that

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they pieced together to make it look
like I was talking about CJ. Yeah,

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is a good dude. I would
absolutely never be romantic. Now,

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just to set the scene here,
this is your first night out, which

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has now become a major trope of
the show. You guys work very hard,

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and now it's time to make bad
decisions and show up at tourist destinations

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where cruise ships drop off people at
these night spots that he might be there,

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right because they're sparklers and overpriced vodka. So you Kat, it is

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made to look like you guys are
fighting over CJ. At some point,

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Kat goes and hangs out. I
think she sits on deckhand Dave's dick and

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you cozy up next to him,
and I think, per Cat she gives

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advice that you always need to have
sex with the person that you're sharing quarters

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with Yeah, very much like a
shop teacher would explain how to use a

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band saw. It's just a matter
of fact. Lee. But all right,

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So I love how that's established very
out of the gate that she wasn't

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into CJ. I don't think by
the way that they have different are they

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still doing different sexes in the same
I think it's rather frowned upon. Depending

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on the vessel, Captain Sandy Joan
won't have a second of it, That's

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right, she just won't have a
second. That is so odd that they

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did that. Back well, we
get back to the boat, Kate's titts

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are out, and Kate's titts are
out somehow, So um, yeah,

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Kat, sorry, excuse me,
I had helmet nachos last night. Sam,

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I'm I'm a little right back.
So we have our first issue the

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next morning of the episode. We've
already had fifteen issues with Sam and Adrian,

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but this is where you two kind
of flare up at one another for

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the first time this episode. Now
Kat mentions that it's just you two or

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oil and water. You are not
destined to work with one another. Well,

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now, Adrian is an overcompensating monster. But I do have to say,

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Sam, and I know that you've
likely grown, but you were a

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real piece of work back then too. I mean you were quite the dick

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to her, but she was quite
the dick to you. So this was

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not ever going to be a thing. What are we not seeing on camera

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that caused the rub? You know, once you lose respect for somebody,

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it's just really hard to dig your
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you know what I mean. And
so it had been like week of just

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I I just couldn't with her.
Yeah, Sam, I get where you're

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coming from, because there's this this
slippery thing with that kind of management,

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especially if it's completely incompetent and underqualified. So that cameras there and camera's there.

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So what that person should be is
humble, team oriented and not hierarchically

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focused. But when you have somebody
who's hierarchically focused, it's not just that

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you need to do your job,
it's that you need to pay respect to

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her position while going throughout the duty. It's like part of your job is

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to, you know, kind of
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you. And when she is as
incompetent and rude as she is, that

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adds to the yuckiness of this relationship, and I believe it was brought up

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in the episode. Adrian is always
on the upper management hierarchy is never there's

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never an off button, It's always
there is Would you agree with that?

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Yeahhheartedly so, so yeah, go
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few weeks of filming, like the
producers were eating it up right and and

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I knew that essentially she wasn't my
boss, right like in the in the

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show, sure she was my boss, but in real life, the production

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company was my boss. They were
the ones who were paying me to be

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there and keeping me there. Adrian
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I didn't really have to report to
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production company, and the production company
was eating it up right, right,

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right right, So yeah, there
was plenty of job security in the nastiness

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between you. Now you bring up
the fact that you didn't get a degree

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in industrial engineering to be treated like
this. Now I want to talk about

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the degree in industrial engineering because this
is just insane. You are talking about

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how you understand differential equations in this
very very complicated math, yet you found

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yourself in what sounded like an office
space kind of nightmare, so soul crushing

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that your mother sent you a maybe
take a whim on working in the Caribbean

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somewhere, Like, what is going
on? Why so much sweat equity poured

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into academia to be shaving CJ's back. Now, I don't mean to frame

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that as like a drop, but
it's quite a shift. Well, she

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explains it in the show Dylan when
she'll explain it here. She hated the

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mundane just right. But there are
no other pathways into engineering. Why the

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switch? I was young, right, I had only been like less than

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a year out of college. So
the job I was working was my first

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job out of college, and I
took it based on, you know what

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paid the most. Basically, I
hadn't explored my career yet. I hadn't

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found my niche in engineering. Yeah, so you know I was. I

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had a long commute to get to
my job at the time, which didn't

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help anything. And you know,
sometimes you just want to escape, you

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want to be back Caribbean, and
so it was just an opportunity. Plus

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I had you know confidence that Okay, now I have this degree under my

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belt, that's not going anywhere.
So if I want to fuck off for

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a few months for the summer,
I can always come back. Yeah yeah.

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This was her version of why don't
I just get a train pass and

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go stay in Europe for three months? Read one? Because you get a

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notoriety and you get paid. Um
did you go back to um that career

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path? I did? Yeah,
I went. I went back to that

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same company. Actually I worked with
them for a few more months before I

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moved to LA. And then when
I moved to LA, I started working

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for a solar company in the valley. What was it better than being on

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a yacht wiping up piss and dealing
with me and me and drunks? Yeah?

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Um, it paid more. Yeah, well, it's an experience.

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It's an experience. Um. All
right, So we we get to cooler

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gate. Um, this is we
talked about it, you guys feud over

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the cooler a bit. Kat wakes
up believe it or not, she's tired.

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The next day. Um, she
is getting the ship beaten out of

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her by Adrian who doesn't care because
the guests are coming and I, for

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one was hoping that they did not
have cocaine on them. They didn't,

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but they arguably had something worse,
which was a scam in their bones.

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The person that boards this vessel,
the second charter guest of the first season,

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is a hypnotist who charges people forty
five thousand dollars a session. Who

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was this guy, Sam? This
guy was a quack in a charlatan.

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I mean, we saw him perform
hypnosis a couple of times and it did

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not work. I've lived in Los
Angeles, well, sorry, Sam,

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I've lived in Los Angeles for a
number of years. This was a thing

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in that era. Oh my god. And they were making lots of money,

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and I don't want to be cynical, but I think a lot of

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them were carn artists. Yea,
yeah, Sam, what were your thoughts?

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I cannot confirm or deny that anyone
has ever paid that many anti hypnotize

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them. Yea A line that someone
said Adrian when she said that, I

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don't know. Um, yeah,
he seemed like a normal dude to me.

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I don't like, I don't know. He seemed like the voice on

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meditation apps. But just before meditation
apps and before recording if in your memory,

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Sam, I had a trouble understanding
who actually was paying for this particular

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charter. Was it the hypnotist or
his ensemble of I think customers? Do

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you do you remember the makeup of
who actually were you answering to when you

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were when you were working for this
charter? I have no idea. So

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they The thing with these people is
the green juice. Now we'll get to

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the green juice in a second.
Um. C J has a moment though,

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where he pops his shirt off,
right, CJ. CJ's got to

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pop that top off because Sam's been
shaving his back. He's looking good,

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he's feeling good. And we get
this hilarious thread this episode where CJ is

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like, you know, this is
fucking way out of line. People telling

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me to be clothed while I work. Um, can you imagine if he

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worked at as like a door greeter
at Walmart? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,

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he'd be taste right. It's like
I work here. I okay,

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Todd, but you have your shirt
right, your nipples are out. It's

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completely inappropriate. Um, what who
is this guy? What is his vibe?

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Sam? Is he just like a
beach bum? I don't know how

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he didn't know that it was not
appropriate to be half nude. I again

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think that he liked much of much
of the cast, myself included, we're

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all underqualified to be there. And
CJ had worked maybe on like, you

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know, a thirty foot sale as
like a deck hand that wasn't really getting

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was you know, doing a doing
a I don't even know, Yeah,

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some kind of charter. Yeah he
was getting paid and weed exactly. Yeah

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he's used to shirtless and I don't
know, Yeah, not a real upstart.

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Um. So the green juice thing
comes up next, Yes, and

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the green juice is really throwing a
wrench into things. Um. Breakfast is

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not served for an hour and a
half or two hours as the juices are

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taking up too much time. Um. Sam, this was a point of

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This was an uh moment for you
and a point of contention between you and

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Adrian. Now Adrian seems to be
belittling you in this moment, telling you

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that you know not how to cut
oranges properly and seems to think that you

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are incapable of making green juice.
Um, what was this? It sounds

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like you had been on the boat
for a while before you guys started actually

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filming these episodes. But was this
a straw that broke a camel's back or

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was the camel had had the camel
already been mutilated on the ground at this

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point, I think the camel was
a bag of bones, really right,

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right, yeah, I know,
just classic case of micromanaging. Yeah,

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you know what I mean. Right, You didn't gonna tell me the orange

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that I'm putting into a juicer.
I mean it's just hitting. Yeah.

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Yeah. The beauty, the beauty
of juicers is that your knife skills don't

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need to be that great because it's
going to be turning to pulp soon.

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So um, not a big deal. Now, something I deemed something interesting

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out of this which has been very
early on kind of taking almost like a

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labor Union head line in the sand, right, I don't touch anything that's

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not solid. Yeah, if it's
a liquid darling, I'm not making it

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darling. Right yeah. One question, so Captain Lee, I know you

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don't follow the series, are I
think just briefly talking to you that you're

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no longer kind of in the below
deck. You've moved on. You've moved

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on. Good for you. Captain
Lee was handed as walking papers this past

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year. Ever, after a decade
of service, do you remember pat hates

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Do you remember filming with Captain Lee, And can you give a little insight

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because I've always thought that he was
very heavily involved with production and very cared,

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very much about how he was perceived
on camera. Can you give us

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any insights to your experience watching Captain
Lee film. Yeah, so that last

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statement you made, I can confirm
that, But I don't think as involved

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in the production until some of the
subsequent seasons and season one, he was

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kind of just as confused and skeptical
as the rest of us. Wow,

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as like, what was going to
come of this? Right right? Um,

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he always knew he was a star, but he didn't know that he

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was going to happens. I think
that in season one he was kind of

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he wasn't ready to be a star, or he didn't know he was going

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to be a star. He was
just kind of being the just curmudgeon that

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he is. And so I don't
know, I think a star was born

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season one. Yeah, before you
know it, Bradley Cooper is hanging in

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the garage. Um, I think
I used to. At the start of

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the season, Um, I like
Captain Lee. I was in his corner,

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and by the end, Um,
I had a pretty strong distaste for

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him. He just kind of Wow. Okay, as was my boss or

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he was you know, too strict
running the ship or anything like that.

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Um, I just think he,
you know, he lacked some integrity and

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um, you know, he had
some personal things going on that he covered

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up and you know, hid from
the cameras while everybody else was you know,

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burying at all. Should we press? Was it about it? Was?

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It? Was it about it?
No? I think everybody, if

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they can, we'll be on a
reality show, an attempt to hide things,

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and he was no different than that. Sure, but yes, well

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I hate his guys. After some
conflict resolution between you know, the interior,

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we moved to the beach, as
we do, and there is a

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storm coming. Now they do edit
in lightning. That was pathetic, but

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there is a bit of a sitch. Um, there's going to be rain

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coming down, and as is customary
with below Deck, they're just like fuck

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it and everyone drinks their green juice
and they eat in torrential down storm.

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Yeah a lot of rain, A
lot of rain, sixty thousand dollars a

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day. Yeah, I know,
but I love how I think it was

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the primary who said how much can
we pay? I know, I hope

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it was a joe. How much
can we pay to make the rain go

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away? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, well there is a price on that.

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So we get back to the boat
and we've got you Sam doing spinach.

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You're on spinach duty. And this
is when Adrian comes in with another

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kind of haymaker. Off the top
rope. She is telling you to drop

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spinach duty and that you need to
go do something else. Now, you

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guys get into a little bit of
a tiff. But the thing I want

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to highlight here is CJ's confessional.
He um compares to Adrian to Adolf Hitler.

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Yeah, he compares her to Adolf
Hitler. That's a that's a comparison

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that's made quite often. You know, he's he's one of the more famous

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bats ease of human history. But
then CJ. Gustati he does the zick

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Kyle. Dude, he throws the
zick Kile down. I was like,

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God, dam, CJ. Sam
called me before we recorded this. She

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was seeking out an episode. Certain
episodes of this season have been pulled off.

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What format was it that you were
looking for? Hulu because all of

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them or it's not available on Prime
either Hulu and Prime and all of them.

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You can't get the dude it's a
dude dude episode, which was former

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episode three. You cannot find it, wow, because I think you had

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surmised that there were too many slur
phobic slurs in the episode. There were.

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Yeah, the entire episode was a
transgender one big transgender slur. Yeah,

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it was about It was about us
going to a bar and one of

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the guys bringing home a transgender woman
and didn't didn't know that it was transgender

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woman, and so it was yeah, Oh that's right. I saw that

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in the coming up. I hope
we can find that on Peacock because that's

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going to be quite a time castle
down her. So right before dinner,

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Sam and Adrian get into um a
little another little I owe another one,

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another little tiff. Sam goes quite
nuts on her here. I can't remember

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specifically what happened, so I'm inclined. It was night time where basically she

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wasn't allowing Sam to understand her schedule
to basically, when can I eat Sam?

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Can you break down the game film
on that? Oh my gosh,

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I just wanted to be able to
shower like, I mean, I'm not

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kidding, Like we were working,
like working, working like we had to

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be on like twenty hours a day. Yeah, and like you'd have a

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few hours to sleep, and God
forbid you wanted to maintain a little personal

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hygiene, you have to that had
to cut into your sleep schedule, right,

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and in Hower it was Yeah.
This is one of the drawbacks of

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corporate uh, the corporate machine is
they're mandated by labor laws to give you

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certain break times. Not out at
sea to the sun and there's water and

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beautiful people. I'm sorry you threw
up blood this morning. Back. All

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I'm saying is like, if I
was no longer serving the guests, I

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could have gone below decks down to
the crew mess which is also where the

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laundry room was, and like kicks
off my shoes theoretical or you know,

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hypothetically because we didn't have shoes on, right, taking a shower and kind

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of turned off, and then I
still could have like done laundry and stuff.

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I think would have been working.
Yeah, but he wasn't allowed that

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time to like just exhale. One
of the one of the trickier things about

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being in higher up positions is managing
people. Adrian couldn't. It didn't sound

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it doesn't sound like Adrian could do
the regular job, let alone the managing

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of people. That's where she really
did not excel at. And to be

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fair to her, if you are
not experienced in that, that can go

409
00:34:13.920 --> 00:34:16.880
south with a lot of people.
Give them a little power and most people

410
00:34:16.920 --> 00:34:21.880
can't handle it. Yeah, and
you do have to, like remind yourself,

411
00:34:21.920 --> 00:34:25.719
part of my responsibility is taking care
of the people who are working for

412
00:34:25.800 --> 00:34:31.880
me, because no people cannot just
go days without bathing. And you know,

413
00:34:32.039 --> 00:34:35.800
you guys are you're you're all drinking
so much. I mean it just

414
00:34:36.039 --> 00:34:38.159
the vodka coming off of cat.
I mean, you have to wash that

415
00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:43.000
shit off. So let's see what
this forty five thousand dollars is worth.

416
00:34:43.760 --> 00:34:51.559
I believe they hypnotize. He hypnotizes
his entire group and my flock, Yeah,

417
00:34:51.599 --> 00:34:57.679
his entire flock. Now, my
favorite hypnotist hypnotism moment was when he

418
00:34:58.440 --> 00:35:02.599
hypnotizes Adrian La in the episode.
We'll skip past it just for the sake

419
00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:06.719
of talking about it right now.
That was an odd sentence. But when

420
00:35:06.760 --> 00:35:13.199
he hypnotizes Adrian, he does this
great and obviously spoiler alert, Sam,

421
00:35:13.239 --> 00:35:20.119
you can confirm or deny this,
but did the hypnotism take oh kidding.

422
00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:29.239
He does this amazing thing, which
is kind of like it's like signing a

423
00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:35.199
waiver before you get on like a
really unsafe carnival ride. He goes,

424
00:35:36.599 --> 00:35:40.199
he wakes Adrian up, and he
says, now, the tools I've given

425
00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:45.280
you, you can choose to use
them or not. Thanks, Obie.

426
00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:52.639
So if this hypnotism didn't work,
it's your fault because I am a hypnotist.

427
00:35:53.199 --> 00:35:59.440
So I've done my job here.
This guy disgusts me. He's just

428
00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:07.880
he's such a fucking fraud. Yeah. So so yeah, scene because I

429
00:36:08.039 --> 00:36:13.480
only because I just rewatched this episode. In that scene, they show me

430
00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:15.719
like sitting on the floor in a
rain jacket, as if I was in

431
00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:20.719
the room watching it all happen.
Right. I was not there, of

432
00:36:20.719 --> 00:36:25.199
course, you Like we've been recapping
reality TV for some time. That is

433
00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:29.480
an obvious Like I was watching the
episode, I was like, Okay,

434
00:36:29.519 --> 00:36:34.119
well, she definitely was not in
the room. Yeah, because Adrian would

435
00:36:34.119 --> 00:36:37.000
have been freaking out. If you
were in the room, it would have

436
00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:42.119
just it just didn't happen, right, all right. So the crew heads

437
00:36:42.119 --> 00:36:47.199
to bed after a lovely dinner of
crispy artichoke with filet it was dinner kind

438
00:36:47.239 --> 00:36:52.119
of. It was back when they
didn't understand They loved Chef Ben clearly from

439
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:54.559
a production standpoint, giving him all
the one liners and no one going after

440
00:36:54.639 --> 00:36:59.639
him. Yet they don't feature his
food very early on, No, they

441
00:36:59.639 --> 00:37:05.280
do not. Um. But we
go to bed and um. Adrian goes

442
00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:15.239
to get a little advice from Porcupine. Um God God Sam. Yeah,

443
00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:21.480
Sonic the hedgehog he dated. We
cover our show called Vanderpump Rules. At

444
00:37:21.519 --> 00:37:25.880
the time of airing, he was
dating christ Yeah. Wow, wow,

445
00:37:25.920 --> 00:37:30.199
Well he had beautiful eyebrows. But
he just tells the cameras and not her

446
00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:34.400
that she's kind of a bitch,
and I think that's why it's not working

447
00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:37.000
out. But we get to the
next day. There's an issue with running

448
00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:44.679
out of veggies, and this is
where Lee leeism's pretty hard um and is

449
00:37:44.719 --> 00:37:47.679
like, you know, this is
just completely unacceptable and and it's one of

450
00:37:47.719 --> 00:37:53.039
those things where you're like Lee,
these people are eating the amount of vegetation

451
00:37:53.280 --> 00:38:00.480
of a silverback gorilla, a gigantic
omnivore. Right, so please fucking lay

452
00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:05.679
off, And would you like to
know what's inappropriate? Inappropriately you walking around

453
00:38:05.719 --> 00:38:08.800
in your underwear with a female staff
member in your room. You fucking pick

454
00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:15.960
well, Sam, Pat does not
likely. He reminded me of a football

455
00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:19.480
coach that beat me up when I
was fourteen, and I and so I

456
00:38:19.960 --> 00:38:23.400
triggers those memories. I hately he
said, shark, you said, doesn't

457
00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:29.679
like him? Pat does not like
me. I don't like him? Yeah,

458
00:38:29.800 --> 00:38:32.920
no, um yeah, yeah.
You know what's great is as um

459
00:38:34.159 --> 00:38:37.039
stus, we clean the whole boat. Well, that includes the captain's quarters

460
00:38:37.239 --> 00:38:42.639
and without you know, there were
there were some secrets hiding in his in

461
00:38:42.760 --> 00:38:45.519
his room. Yeah, we don't
want to get you in trouble. But

462
00:38:45.559 --> 00:38:49.679
that's a nice tease because I think
we can think about what might be in

463
00:38:49.719 --> 00:38:52.840
there. I think it's a double
sided dildough. Well that's something to do

464
00:38:52.960 --> 00:39:01.440
with with smut, right, something
to do It was smut much? Uh,

465
00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:06.599
sack, sack. It's probably porn
or lotion. He's beating up he

466
00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:15.519
belo wasn't it wasn't. Oh gosh, is it a fucking crack pipe?

467
00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:20.000
What are you talking about? We
don't want to get you in all right,

468
00:39:20.039 --> 00:39:22.360
We don't want to get you in
trouble. So um, well we'll

469
00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:28.440
ask you off air. So um
She okay, So Adrian's off the boat.

470
00:39:28.559 --> 00:39:30.320
But it turns out that she might
have needed to be there for the

471
00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:37.039
coffee machine because Sam and Kat do
not do the hottest job of making lattes.

472
00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:43.559
The good name don't get in there. It was Kat making. I

473
00:39:43.639 --> 00:39:47.119
knew that espresso was seeing like the
back of my hand. What happened with

474
00:39:47.199 --> 00:39:50.960
the espresso? And she what did
she did? She put the beans where

475
00:39:50.960 --> 00:39:54.119
the water is supposed to go.
Yes, she did. Okay, Well,

476
00:39:54.159 --> 00:39:58.639
now, because you have to remember, Adrian was putting U in charge.

477
00:39:58.719 --> 00:40:01.880
I'm sorry Sam put Adrian puts salmon
charge of the Catalina wine mixer,

478
00:40:02.039 --> 00:40:07.199
right kinda. She tells her she's
entrusted her to blend vegetables. The coffee

479
00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:12.400
machine's a hold up. The coffee
machine is Cat's responsibility. So Adrian gets

480
00:40:12.400 --> 00:40:15.840
back, She gets the hypnosis that
doesn't work, and then we get to

481
00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:20.239
CJ taking off his shirt again.
Now he is told by an engineer,

482
00:40:20.840 --> 00:40:29.400
M dude, you have to stop
taking your shirt off and CJ. CJ

483
00:40:29.639 --> 00:40:31.320
is like, you know what,
I can't fucking I can't fucking do this

484
00:40:31.400 --> 00:40:37.880
shit, man, It's just fucking
ridiculous. Um. And this is when

485
00:40:37.920 --> 00:40:43.400
we move on to you and Adrian
having a little sit down. Now,

486
00:40:44.320 --> 00:40:50.400
this seems like half measures from both
of you. It's a it's a chicken

487
00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:52.639
or the egg thing. I think
she comes, she sits down with you

488
00:40:52.719 --> 00:40:58.960
and immediately presents this air of like
I have to do this. It seems

489
00:40:59.039 --> 00:41:04.119
very disingenuous and it seems like you're
picking up on it instantaneously. But do

490
00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:10.119
you recall how this went? I
think was that conversation was one of those

491
00:41:10.440 --> 00:41:16.440
uh production um you know, they
coordinated it. They were like, this

492
00:41:16.519 --> 00:41:22.000
is this needs to come to a
head. We need like some development on

493
00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:24.239
this. We can't just go you
know, the full season in with YouTube

494
00:41:24.360 --> 00:41:28.000
and condescending to each other. Why
don't we sit down and talk about it

495
00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:30.920
and try to get the more content
out of it. So that's I think

496
00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:35.599
we're that conversation. I love talking
to people from past seasons because they're not

497
00:41:35.719 --> 00:41:40.599
shackled by Bravo. Yeah they current
cast members are always like, no,

498
00:41:40.719 --> 00:41:45.199
there is no meddling. There is
no meddling at all. It's just they

499
00:41:45.280 --> 00:41:49.719
capture what they capture and it's like, you're lying, how could you possibly

500
00:41:49.800 --> 00:41:54.639
say this? I have a note
here attempt to squash the beef between Adrian

501
00:41:54.800 --> 00:42:00.920
and Sam, and that's clearly production
intervention trying to do that. This was

502
00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:02.599
you trying to get clarity on your
brakes, by the way, I think

503
00:42:02.639 --> 00:42:07.599
it was the part of this conversation. Yeah, and just just the fallout

504
00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:10.960
of her being being awful to you
for for some time. But we move

505
00:42:12.039 --> 00:42:15.960
on to the guest departing the boat, and we're wrapping up here. The

506
00:42:16.280 --> 00:42:20.760
charter guest says that he had a
great time and that he wants to express

507
00:42:20.800 --> 00:42:27.920
his gratitude in a physical way,
which is a just a bizarre sentence,

508
00:42:29.000 --> 00:42:31.960
just a bizarre fucking thing to say. Well, we've seen when we watch

509
00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:35.519
next to him, that guy who
just gonna do like three hundred years in

510
00:42:35.559 --> 00:42:38.960
jail. We walk him talking circles
in say things right that are confusing,

511
00:42:39.320 --> 00:42:43.840
But most dumb people will fall into
the trap of like, oh, I

512
00:42:43.880 --> 00:42:45.760
think he's smarter than because I don't
understand what he just said. Well most

513
00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:50.599
of us didn't either. Well,
we rap up the episode with a pretty

514
00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:55.119
sizeable tip pet fifteen grand, which
is now a lot more than that fifteen

515
00:42:55.199 --> 00:42:58.360
k. I thought that was a
pretty good tip for one day. It

516
00:42:58.400 --> 00:43:02.199
was only a one day, Charter
write Sam, no three days. Oh

517
00:43:02.239 --> 00:43:06.239
that's a little light. That's a
little light. That's a little light,

518
00:43:06.360 --> 00:43:07.800
but ten years ago, I don't
know, adjusted for inflation, I don't

519
00:43:07.840 --> 00:43:10.480
know. I mean, it's still
not not the greatest tip. But we

520
00:43:10.639 --> 00:43:15.159
end the episode with Lee CJ on
the boat hitting on Sam. This is

521
00:43:15.159 --> 00:43:19.800
where they're trying to create that romance
between the two of them. And then

522
00:43:19.800 --> 00:43:23.280
we kind to Lee calling Porcupine up
and Adrian to give a little feedback.

523
00:43:23.360 --> 00:43:27.480
Yeah. So Lee calls Porcupine and
Adrian up and says, you guys are

524
00:43:27.519 --> 00:43:30.599
doing a shit job. But obviously
I think you're doing excellently. And this

525
00:43:30.679 --> 00:43:37.559
is the kind of you know,
management under Lee that gets a little confusing.

526
00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:40.639
Um, do we have any final
questions for Sam? Well? I

527
00:43:40.679 --> 00:43:44.800
don't think we need to have any
final questions because Sam, we got like

528
00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:47.039
nine episodes left. We'd love to
have you back. This was the fun

529
00:43:47.119 --> 00:43:51.360
time I've had podcasting in a while. Would you come back and recap some

530
00:43:51.519 --> 00:43:53.360
episodes with us? We have more
questions for you. They're gonna they're gonna

531
00:43:53.360 --> 00:43:59.119
crop up as the season goes.
Sure, amazing that sounds like, I

532
00:43:59.159 --> 00:44:02.880
don't know, Yeah, it did
sound like a note I come back.

533
00:44:04.079 --> 00:44:06.840
Okay, great, Well, thank
you for joining us. We really really

534
00:44:06.880 --> 00:44:10.599
appreciate it. Anything to plug?
Do you want people to donate to anything?

535
00:44:10.760 --> 00:44:16.559
Find you anywhere, let the people
know. Not exactly. I'm on

536
00:44:16.599 --> 00:44:23.079
Instagram. That's about it. What's
your hand? Uh? Sammy orm s

537
00:44:23.119 --> 00:44:28.760
A M I R M E.
Go find her. Go find her on

538
00:44:28.800 --> 00:44:31.559
Instagram and stalk her photos. Thank
you very much for joining us. We'll

539
00:44:31.599 --> 00:44:36.400
talk to you again soon. Thank
you, gentlemen. Thanks Sam, this

540
00:44:36.480 --> 00:45:01.400
was really fun. Sure have a
good weekend, Pappy Father's said in the card.

