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it, one ome at a time. So I want to welcome you to
this week's show. As those of you are following me for a long time
now, I on a semi consistent basis, only semi do a hot topic.
A hot topic means something that gets me hot under the collar or makes
me warm the cockles of my heart. Unfortunately, with a lot of things
went on in the world today, I find that my collar tends to be
warmer than my heart. So I got a pretty warm heart for a lot
of things, but for some reason, they just don't get discussed as much,
um you know. And I was going to do a hot topic that
was that was warming the was that was hot under the collar. But I'm
going to change that to one that has warming the cockles of my heart,
which is this young man that I read about who has now graduated and get
several degrees um and he's like twelve years old. And I wasn't prepared to
do this story. I ran across it. But you know, his parents
learned discovered at a young age that he just had this incredible ability to learn
and bring it in and but instead of happening, what happens a lot of
times is that very highly intelligent children because can can become not only outliers in
some ways, but they can become problems in the classroom, especially at a
young age, because they're going to be bored. And some of those are
correctly and some of those are incorrectly diagnosed as being ADD or ADHD, where
oftentimes they're encouraged to be put on a path of medication which helps them fit
in better with the grade level and the students they're with. I used to
call that drugging them up and dumping them down, that somehow, highly curious,
highly energetic, highly intelligent kids just didn't do well in the average classroom
and then we're going to act out. Now. I don't know any of
this child's history. I look through the story some I know that his parents
basically got on the train of allowing him to get to this young age and
graduate high school, graduate college, get master's degrees, get all of this
other stuff. Now as he emotionally mature enough to be out in the world
working a full time job, or should he be at this age. That's
a different set of questions. But one thing that was clear was these parents
didn't look at their whatever issues or uncomfortability. They're extremely bright child may have
been creating, and I'm sure there were some. I'll bet my bottom dollar
on it. I'll keep the ones that are all on top of it,
mind you if I lose the bet, But I bet that there were some
terse conversations when this child was very small and very young, and clearly very
distracting, because if he's got all these degrees at this age at five,
he probably wasn't very happy learning to count numbers, were sat contentedly learning his
ABC. I bet he was already way beyond that. And though it warns
the cossles of my heart is whatever it took his parents supported him to feed
the bottomless curiosity of his intellect. That he was this huge funge of wanting
to learn and know and do this and mean And he got a few different
degrees. And so again I didn't prepare. I had a different story prepared,
but tonight's guest convinced me to do a different story. He didn't know
he convinced me to do a different story. And I'll be introducing him in
a minute. But I just decided, why you know, why worried?
Be happy? Why focus on the negative? We can't Well, maybe we
can change it, but sometimes let's focus on the positive and what's the message
there? And maybe it's time to destroy our current education system and build something
that is less like an assembly line the children get lost in and fall off
of. And maybe it's time we create something that bellas better celebrates all of
these kids that seem to be coming up, that learn in different ways,
experience education differently, and when given the opportunity, can really knock get out
of the park instead of feeling like we need to chop them up so that
they can be the square peg to fit in the square hole of a very
outdated ucation system. So on that note, I'm going to introduce my guests
for the evening, and we're going to talk a little bit about his new
book and what he does and all of that stuff. But My first question
to him is he is from Canada, and I want to know how do
they deal with really great kids in Canada. But I'll be asking that a
fame to do something. So Tonight's guest is Cecil McIntosh. He is a
relaxation expert and Barbadian spiritual teacher. I love that author. He immigrated to
Canada from Barbados age twenty, where he was raised by his grandma and the
village. I also love that we definitely need a lot more village rating.
After graduating from Ryason University, he began his career in sales, always hustling,
worked day and night to outperform his peers, and subsequently lost everything with
divorce and bankruptcy in the same week. See it's called getting your just deserves.
No hanksrupts, he said him on a quest to find clarity and see
problems through new eyes, one day he heard a voice telling him there are
words for people that hear voices in their head. Just so you know,
I've been called them a few times to teach what he had learned. He
followed this guidance and had since helped countless people with getting off the hustle hamster
wheel and be in their flow state, at peace and free of worries.
He has a new book out called Drawback the Veil and Cecil. I've known
Cecil. We are cross paths many times. I've known you, yep,
and fifteen years. Maybe that's why, Seas, what do I do with
bright kids in Canada that they trying to drug them up and dumb them down
as much as they do here in the States. Well, I think it's
I think it's a universal thing, and it's universal because of our conditioning.
We're conditioned to behave a certain way and it doesn't matter where you are that
that's the conditioning. So until we see things a little differently, it's going
to happen. They are gonna be acceptions to the rule where people will keep
people differently. But generally speaking, it's it's this is the way to do
it right. This is the way that they look at it. But because
you're and the other team, when you have bright children too, it's a
challenge because most people don't know how to deal with them. There's no system
the deeper bright kids. So the challenge, the challenge, sorry, go
ahead, no, no God. So the challenge is that that is not
something that's in place. If you might find a school or a T shirt
can do it. But Jenner speaking, there's nothing in place to say,
here's some bright kids, here's what we're gonna do with them. Here,
here's the systems to take them through from or eight to point B. As
you suggested. All we tend to do it if you go to medication,
Jenner, because it's the easier way, the faster way, and it's you
know, it seems it seems to fix the problem, but it doesn't.
No, it actually exacerbates the problem, makes it worse. It gives a
temporary fix with a very long term cost. That's right, So tell me
so thank you for that. I do know that there have been some impressive
studies because as you may or may not remember, I have several books out
on ad and do a lot of work in that area, add adhd Um.
But and there was some impressive h studies they did in Canada that actually
proved medication was not as successful and came with some emotional and I mean and
this was like a twelve year study. I mean, like Bank really did
it right up there, but everybody down here ignored him because it didn't tell
them the message. They wanted to tell them which way to medicate those children.
E give those dollars the big pharma, give them into the system.
And because bright, creative kids tend to be more rebellious, they questioned more
things. Ah, that's right now, when we talk about creative intelligence and
rebellious, that's the perfect introduction for you. Okay, do you deny any
of the charges? Low, because I'm glad you brought it this way,
because this is what we can be talking about for the balance of the evening.
This is where we're going. So, Harris, what's happened? We
have not as people in general, we were never encouraged to ask questions.
So for example, you've got you when when you have your condition? For
me a mom, the school, the media, the church, and for
me specifically, if I were to ask the question, especially to the pastors
or to my parents, they would I get spank and put in a corner
because I wasn't supposed to ask the question. The problem is they didn't know
the answer. So that's what happened to me. What I have discovered and
what I work and what I teach now is that we need to ask questions.
However, you need to come to a place where those questions can be
addressed without judgment or without criticism. And that's the challenge we have. There
are very few places that you can go and you can ask questions in your
ignorance and someone's going to answer you. That's what I do because well,
I teach so ahead. No, Well, you know one thing I want
to comment on that is that you know where where I myself was not.
But many people that were raised in traditional society with the tradition, the major
traditional religious backgrounds and the whole you know, coming from the children should be
seen and not heard or that whole thing the power. The people in power
start at a very young age to indoctrinate the concept the questions are that and
because they don't want to be questioned, not just because they don't have the
answers, but sometimes because the answers are because I want to have a better
life off the back of you, because I want you to be a cog
or a wheel in my assembly line and make me lots of money while I
treat you like a piece of crap. I want you to be subservient to
me like that. Somehow, you know, and our institutions reinforce. You
know, in India they call them cast systems, but you see that happen
in this country and I'm sure in Canada, but correctly if I'm wrong,
through you know, it's inherently built in with what side of the track are
you born with? What is your authenticity? What is you know? What
do you get a good quality education offered? You are a crappy one,
are you? You know? Like, there's all sorts of ways in which
we do that. But it's not just we need to ask questions, but
the people that are getting that are are being asked the questions need to engage
with an open minding curiosity and that's a big missing factor. What are your
thoughts? Well, but they can't because they're conditioned to behave that way.
It's like hitting the brick wall. It's impossible, right, you cannot use
this. You've been conditioned by your mom, your dad. That's that's what
you're supposed to do. Now you're telling me, okay, now I'm supposed
to listen to you. Well, I don't know any better. So and
to support them, they're operating the ignorance, But the point is it's still
happening. They don't know any better. But people like you and I are
trying to teach them better. Correct, But that's where I'm coming from.
They don't know any better. Right. Let let me give you a quick
story about that. When it was at university, I was president. I
was president in businesstudent society at Arson and one day to being a business and
president of Arson. Success. You've done a good job. What are you
going to do when you graduate? And I said, I'm going to get
a job and selling kept doctor Kevin. Imagine two white men looked at me
and said, in Unison, they're gonna hire you, say you less and
fire you. And I'm saying what No. I worked four years part time
on tiptop tritos and the people there are men who high school. They told
me I was good at selling, but that was that was just the thought
that I couldn't do it, But they didn't know I had done my homework.
They're sorry. It was just like everybody else because that was their conditioned
way of thinking. So that's my personal experience of where this is what they're
thinking, but they didn't know that. People are ready told me you're good,
although it was different. So this is where the issue comes in the
lack of education and lack of understanding is the ignorance that exist. Oh and
let's let's let's put the old spun life right on the truth of that.
They try to train us that different is bad whatever that different, But what
they said is that maybe it's more specific. Toronto is not ready for a
black salesman. That's what they said to me. Now, Sethel, I'm
shocked. I've done you all these years, and I'm shocked. I've known
you all these years and you never told me you were a black man.
Why did you hide that from me? I didn't hide it. This that's
what they said. I'm doing me. I had definitely do it. But
let me let's take us a little bit more it or now I'm in sales.
Now, let's since you go there the adult piece of that. I'm
in stales and I'm working and um and when the sales, when the sales
managers switch around, they all would want me to be a part of They
would all want me to be in the system. So this white guy,
Kim comes up to me and says, sex, you don't drink, you
don't smoke, you don't go, you don't you don't know go to cottage.
You don't give a downboad anybody? How can when the white managers do
what they do, they all want you to be on your team. I
say, because I'm black, He says, no, I what's going on?
What happened is most people when when a camp didn't know that I had
saw I had worked with black people, do it was white people before?
Because in Barbados there's no difference between white and black. There's no there's no
you know, we just eat breakfast together. So everybody think that I am
different. Now I don't know what's going on, and it's like, excuse
me. But the thing though, that was important, Kevin, is that
I respected and my grandmother taught me to respect everybody. That was the key
for me. So long as you respect somebody, it doesn't matter who they
are, ship size cutter. Just respect everybody. And that was my ticket.
Now, how do you deal with it with that respect is not returned?
Oh no, no, no no no no no no no no no.
I respect myself. You cannot disrespect me. I will not give you
that privilege. You cannot you no, no, you cannot disrespect me Because
I respect myself. I'm solid and that no matter what you do, as
long I've journed this long ago, you can't stop me. You can't.
No, no, no, no, that cannot happen. I will not
give you the opportunity. You've brought up an interesting point which I'm gonna and
again. You know Cecil mackintosh dot com. If you go to the doctor
the Doctor Kevin page Facebook for the ductor Kevin Show page, you can see
the link to his website. We are going to be talking about his book
drawing Back, draw Back the Veil draw not Drawing Drawback the Veil Um,
which you can get on his website. Um but dot said, you made
a very interesting point because here in the States, I don't know if it's
his bat in Canada or not. We're going through a particularly vitriolic time of
of a renewed racism in this country like I haven't seen in thirty years,
Like like everybody just racist is out and proud about it. But you brought
up that in Barbados, blacks and whites are raised equally, so they don't
see a difference. That's what I heard you say, there's a difference,
but it's not if we know it's a difference. But we have, we
have we eat together, we have breakfast together. I mean, we play
games together. There's no you know. So that's that's where they come from.
Okay. Do you think that there is a difference in how people of
color in Barbados would be or would would be or might be treated here than
people who have gone through all of the stuff we put them through if they
were raised in the US. And I don't know how it is in Canada.
I mean, do you feel like that has an effect on things?
Well, I look at it from a little different perspective. Good shared,
the society is going to do what it said it's gonna do right that their
conditioned to behave that way. I don't extrect it to be every different.
Where I look at it. I've always done is I have looked at myself
and say, okay, now I want to get that thing over there?
What do I need to get it? I don't care which society, I
mean, what do I need to get that? And that's where I approach
it. So I think that from my perspective is that we are looking at
the society which is bigger than us, which we cannot win, but where
we can win. It's if we individually look at it from our perspective,
we can stop tabbling the waters where we're coming from. So I addressed it
from that perspective. How can that change in spite of what it is in
front of me? Well, and I call that a form of being in
power. That's are of it that I'm not going to give you the ability.
You don't have the ability to make me feel less. You don't have
the ability to suppress me. I have the ability to allow it. But
if I don't allow it, it cannot happen no matter how hard you try
it. Thank you. So i'd like to you know, before we start
talking about your book, which we'll talk more about the book. I know
you're already kind of talking about stuff in the book right now, but we'll
do a throwdown, bigger conversation in a little bit. But tell me in
retrospect. I always like to hear the retrospect being who you are now and
looking back at the you you were that in the same week went through bankruptcy
and went through divorce. How did all of that happen? Where do you
look back? Can you look back and say those are the points where I
lost touch with who I was or I lost touch with what I was doing.
What do you see looking back at that one at that at that sessil,
It was a wonderful experience. And let me explain to you what happened.
My grandmother was my business teacher and my spiritual teacher. She's one of
the most influential people in Barbados now. She taught me everything that she's a
businesswoman. She ran business as where I learned more money back from. So
when I came to Canada and I started Bright Lights of the North work,
I said, and I went to university, says my grandma. She doesn't
annoy anything. She didn't go to university. So I am may because of
what I'm based on what I heard from the president, and being a business
I made her to make money to prove a point. So I mean,
in the fifteen years, I made lots of money. But what I discovered
is that I was so attached to money. But my grandmother never taught me.
Yeah, she says money is important, but it's not the only thing.
So I actually forsake the values of the things that she taught me about
avatives and I lost all that. But then after I meant to what I
meant to on my journey. That little voice was very rude to me and
says, hey, you thought your grandmother didn't know anything. You're rude to
your grandmother. Now go go open your home and teach you what you know.
I know, I'm teaching what my grandma talk. So that's my sisters,
is a beautiful experience. Okay, but you were making lots of money.
How did you end up in bankruptcy because I wanted to make more money?
It was greedy, Okay, I could say, I can see the
forest from the trees. You got seduced into the golden handcuffs and then okay,
okay, I mean, I'm just trying to I mean, one of
the most important early teachers in my life was my grandmother as well. I
get both my grandmothers. I get the grandmother thing. I have the grandmother
vibe going, and I know they taught me lots of really important things.
And I know that there were some of those things that I forgot and had
to remember because we have to go out and we have to experience life as
who we are. I mean, life is our greatest teacher at the end
of the day, if we allow it, we can decide not to allow
life to be our graded teacher, and then we have a much harder life.
Yep. So, but you entwined that was the divorce because of the
bankruptcy or they totally different, separate things get together because in the context that
because it was triggered by the Dina business, in the president of regenstaying you
can't make it, because that was a trigger, all right, and I
say, hello, I'm going to prove you wrong. And because I took
on that attitude, I actolutely ignored my family. I was only interested in
proving the point I can make the money. You can't tell me I can't
do it. I'm gonna make the money. That was the mistake on me,
if you want to call it a mistake, because my grandmother never taught
me about making money only so I got caught up in that. You know,
one of the things I will often share with listeners, and I'm going
to share with you now, as you know, I came to this point,
you know, a couple of decades ago now. But when I came
to the point that I realized that I'm here to be enjoy and enjoy I
can have all of my material needs taking care. Yes. You know when
people say to me, what do you do for work? And I go,
I don't do work. I do joy. I get up every day,
I get paid to be me. It doesn't get any better than that.
But that's flipping it around, you know. I know that when I
first started my own business, just thirty three years ago. Now that I
started my business and people would come and I was started it by doing professional
psychic work again, and they'd sit across my table and I would start to
tell them what I was getting for them, and I say, I start
with what Spirit wants you to know? And you know, and people would
be like, well, I have questions. Well we'll get to your questions
if we don't run out of time. I work for Spirit and I'm going
to tell you what Sara wants you to know, and what sort of wants
you to know is more important than what you think you want to know.
So if it's important that you you know, And a lot of times people
would say you answered all my questions before I could ask them. We'll be
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Hello, Hello, hello, and welcome back to the Doctor Kevin Show here
on Home Times, where we're changing the world. Wait for it one oh
minute time. I also in my ramblings at the beginning of the show forgot
to mention it is a live call in show. You can call in and
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question would be more than happy to answer, so you know, before we
let on break. I think one of the points that I was actually trying
to make is I think that your grandmother understood the concept of when you live
in joy, the world will take the spirit, the joy spirit, whatever
you want to call it, will take care of you. But I can
go ahead if I can give you an example of where I noticed that is
my grandmother used to dig potatoes. Dig the potatoes, she go into the
ground, dig it out as she sewed it. So one day I was
at the home and twelve people came to the home and they dropped off by
the sugar flower coconut teas at her host And I'm saying to myself, who
the heck is my grandmother? So when she came home, she says to
me who dropped off that? I say, donkey, Kurt, bicycle,
motorcycle. She everybody that dropped the doctor. What was fascinating is the twelve
parishes in Barbados, and somebody came from each parish. I'm saying, how
can she be so powerful? How can she be so influential that people from
all over the country would come to this little home and pop things up?
That is what you're talking about. That's where I'm sorry for her. She
actually lived it. That's where I got it from. Yeah, you know,
in in her own right. So she never had a shingle, and
she never had a you know, an education from a university or whatever.
My grandmother was really kind of like the town healer. And then people would
would come to her and they would respect her. Of course, in a
lot of indigenous cultures, wise women, wise men, shaman, they're not
expected to do anything but be who they are and provide what they provide,
and they're recognized in the value for the value of that. And you know,
in the western world, we've really got an ass over tea kettle and
inside out on what we value and what we don't value. So that it's
so twisted that I couldn't explain it to a child. Why, you know,
their teacher who is taking care of them barely makes enough to live and
somebody that can shoot a basketball gets to be paid twenty million dollars. I
can't explain the logic behind that. There is no logic, there's no justification.
So yep, drove back the veil. What led you to write this
book? Can you tell us some stuff about this book? And this is
your first book? Is don't I remember you have another book out? I
have another book out, but that I really didn't push it too much because
somebody says to me, the book you've written, doesn't it was missing something,
So I just I just parked it. Oh, I parked it.
So throughout back in the field. For many years, I've been teaching people
entrepreneurs more specifically, what like I caught my grandma what my grandmother taught me
along with some other people, and most of my people that I worked with
then did extremely well. Right. So, for example, Jenuma came to
me. He was a millionaire, he had no relationship, high blood pressure,
couldn't sleep. He got whatever he wanted because of working with me,
he got everything he wanted. Right, So that's what I was teaching.
But although I was teaching this and I was getting amazing result, there was
something that was missing to me and I didn't know what it was, but
was that little something they want? I got a headache, evented, my
wife and I went to the hospital and they checked me out. The doctness
is nothing wrong with you, and there's a bit of research on the internet.
And then I discovered the piece that was missing. It was I saw
this video by Moji and it was all about what they calls self realization.
And as soon as I saw everything around me spun, my whole life change
and I realized that's the piece that that's the piece that's missing. Now,
why is that important? That's important because most entrepreneurs. They have a gift.
That's why they do what they do. But what they don't have is
they don't know who they are. There's a condition self that that the function
ads. But then you find out who you are, when you emerge your
gift with who you are, then it's what you talk about, the living
and joy. So that's what the book is all about. That's that's how
the drawback the veal kim because draw out the villa means it was hidden.
I didn't know it was there, and I think about it. It was
right. I have it. I don't have to go look for it's me.
It's like the story this lady she was came from the country and she
used to she used to going upon and she would wash her here. She
came to the city and there was no in her opinion, she lives in
a apartment, but she couldn't wash her here. So she's for the whole
week she's complaining she can't wash her here. Somebody in the village says,
go to that wise man down there and tell him your problem. So she
goes to the wise man telling the problem. The wise man says to her,
do you live in an apartment? Yeah. Do you have a bathroom
here? Do you have a toilet? Yes? Do you have Is there
a curtain in the bathroom? She said yes. She says, do me
a favor, go home, pull back the curtain, come see me tomorrow.
When she put back the curtain. But she saw the shower and she
washed her here. That's that's where the drawbaut the vela is all about.
Everything we want is right there, but we can't see it as a deal.
So that's that's that's that's so funny because it makes me think of two
things. One is, you know, one of the books that I have
out is called Combing the Mirror. So it's called Combing the Mirror and Other
Steps in your Spiritual Path, And there's a chapter called Combing the Mirror,
And it's when we when people are reflecting back, mirroring back to us something
that we are unhappy with or unsettled with within ourselves, that no matter how
much we try to fix them or comb the mirror, it's they're not the
problem we you know, but it's and you know, and I got this
from an actual client session where I had somebody who didn't was partially balved actually,
and I dragged him into the bathroom and I gave him a comb,
and I messed up what little Harry had and I said, start combing that
mirror until that hair is thick. And he got it. It's like,
I'm never going to be able to fix my hair. Comb in the mirror,
and comb in that mirror, and I said, and you're never going
to be able to fix your sister. Your sister is reflecting back to you
your version of the damage both of you got from your childhood. So when
you talk about her discovering the shower, it makes me think of my combing
the mirror. Slightly different message, but a very harmony, two very harmonious
messages with each other, you know. So, and then the other thing
is, I don't know because I know that we originally met at an organization
that I was on faculty for, So I don't know if you ever heard
me when I was on the stage, but you know, I would tell
people from the stage if they asked me, what is the first thing that
you want to do with an entrepreneur? If if we've brought you in,
doctor Kevin, what is the first thing you would do? People would ask
me, And I said, the first thing I would do is we would
make sure to discover if you don't know what is the vision and mission statement
of your soul. Yeah, and once we have identified the vision and mission
statement of your soul, we make sure your business is in alignment with it,
because if you have a business that's in alignment with the vision and mission
statement of your soul, you cannot fail. That's right, you're doing what
you came here to do. So now what is your So you have the
book out and people can go to your website and get the book. Correct
book free download. Yeah, it's a free download. Did you hear that?
You can go to Cecil McIntosh dot com. That a see if I
put out see if I sell it? Right? You can correct me C
E C I E L M C I L or I knew I was going.
Or if you want the book faster, they can go up to s
C E C I L ebook dot com dot We're getting right to the books
cecisbook dot com. We're getting straight to the book. Okay, And it's
on the website. Yeah, it's on the website. If you want.
When we hang up tonight, you can go to the Doctor Kevin Show where
I posted about the show and put that link in the comment bar so people
when they listen, Okay, this show will air six more times in the
next week airs I do. I shoot the show once a week, but
then it shoots at all different time zones because I have listeners all over the
world. So you can go and put put that in and the comment part
for people to get there. What's next for you? You've got the book
out, you're giving it away. Tell me what's what's that? That's the
unfolding world for season. Sorry, I'm so glad you asked. Here's what's
beautiful? Then you discover who you are, not who you think you are,
not who you are conditioned to be, but so so who are you?
You are that person? Writ is joy Where there is no writ is
harmony, whdre is no fighting, there's no screaming, wh there's no shouting.
It just is and whatever you want, you don't really do anything.
Everything works through you, So there's no working hard to make a living here,
But everybody works true you. If you understand that you have to get
out of your own way, and you're aware of that. The thing is
unawareness that if you get out of your way, everything that you want will
turn up naturally, and if you are aware and you're listening, your whole
day will be planned out for. You'll be told what to do each moment
of the day if you are aware of it. But the challenge is,
we have all these thoughts I mean true, and we don't we can't,
we don't know what to do with the thoughts, or we don't do it.
We just got get caught up in them. But in what I teach
now, I teach you how to deal with all those thoughts and all the
factions and everything. I teach you how to deal with that. So life
continues the way it is. However it wouldn't affect it. That's what I'm
teaching and what I really what where I'm going with this is I want to
take entrepreneurs who have that gift and who are interested in what I'm teaching,
and we're going to merge them together. And what we're gonna time up with
is what we call the freedom entrepreneur effect. What that means is that as
with this merging, you have that freedom. So say you whatever company or
whoever you work with, where you have that essence, whoever work with you
would kind of get a bit of that perfume. And if you have a
company that has a line along these lines where everybody understands that or not,
everybody to the top of the top influences understand that life is beautiful because everybody's
in alignment. That's my whole purpose. And then we're gonna have you can
have to get together in our groups and we have communities and this freedom entrepreneur
scent is what's gonna it's it's gonna be like you're gonna get a whiff of
it. You're gonna get intoxicated, but you don't know what's happening, but
things begin to happen differently. That's where I'm going. So what I hear
you say is your goal is to work with entrepreneurs to become into an into
an alignment where like we were talking about before, that they're more living their
life and joy that they're doing what they're here to do, that their business
is successful as a byproduct instead of them being the byproduct of a successful business.
That's right, and that you want to form that into a supportive community
that can then support and grow and create synergy within itself for the members.
Did I get that all straight? Did I miss anything? You're right under
as usually you're right in the money. So now so you're available right now
to work with entrepreneurs. Yes, yes, yes, okay, So if
they go to your website and they want do they can they schedule an introductory
appointment? Can they? I mean, like, how does it if?
If I if I am listening to this today and I'm an entrepreneur who knows
I'm meant to be an entrepreneur, but my business is ruining my family and
is uh, you know, coming with very high cost that I no longer
want to play. What's their next step? The first thing to do is
to get the e book book asessu ebook dot com. When you get the
e book, it gives you a foundation to understand I thought, why you're
doing, what you're doing, and what you can do about it. Then
I have a weekly class. I have a weekly class where I teach weekly
some of the things that come up with this. I teach you basically how
to how to how to be if you want to do better? Artici what
consciousness is? Artisi what awarenesses? So the more where you are, the
easy to understand what's going on. Then from there, um you might want
to know more about right and there's a contact page on my website. They
can go and you can you can contact me. You too to contact me.
But we start with the book and then we start with the plastids,
so it gives you a little you know, you can check me out so
you can find out what's going on if it's for you. I years ago,
we actually yeah, I remember, I remember being you and like I
didn't know who you when I first went to the US list and being like
we're talking, like you were talking about me, Like who do I do
you should do that? Really? Like who the heck is this guy?
Yeah? I'm just somebody out there being me. And it always care those
people because they keep on thinking that there's something I'm supposed to be other and
I'm like, yeah, it doesn't quite roll that way, so I assume.
I don't want to assume, so I want to ask. So these
classes you hold are they on zoom in person? Both they are. When
you sign up for a class day in Zoom, you get a link and
you come to the classes. Classes on Raines days at seven and Thursdays at
one because I want to get different times zooms involved. So the two hours
the two hours you can ask me and then you want to ask me.
And that's there's ten dollars for ten dollars per week, is what it is?
Well, that's a bargain. Um. Well, then there's always the
you know, one of the power of classes, because I've taught lots of
classes through the years, is not only what you go in knowing what you
want to know, but then participating in a situation where somebody asked the question
you might not have thought of asking yes, and sometimes you know. And
of course I'm big into the idea that a really good teacher is one that
goes into every class saying what am I going to learn from this class?
That's right? Beautiful, This says if we, you know, the students
go in and they think they know what they want to learn, but we
go in and we're kind of like, okay, spirit, what am I
here to learn today from this group of students? How is this people's students
going to help me grow and evolve and be and become more? That's right.
So people can go into classes and then at some point if they're like,
hey, the class thing works, but I need some one on one
cessil loving, then they can create that as well. But I love you're
talking about. I met a genuine once and I was working with him and
he says to me, cecil, I have to admit to you, you
have love loves me more than my mom and dad. I thought it was
it was it touching because you have loved me more than my mom and dad.
You never judge me, you never do anything. You just treated me
as a person, you know, and as that When I hear that,
and I've heard that, I've heard people say that to me as well.
And you know it used to it used to always like warm the cockles of
my heart that I could be there for somebody in such a powerful way who
needed it. But then there was always a little part of me and there
still is. That. That's a little sad that that when we have every
major world religion preach love is the way in one form or another, when
we have songs about it and books about it, and we have all of
this stuff, and yet unconditional loving and acceptance is so rare, And that's
so sad. You know that. And hopefully through the work you're doing,
you will be corrupting people to bring more of that into the world. Oh
I love that word. I love that word, which watching parts corrupt.
I think that's beautiful. I think that's beautiful. My staff used to talk
about, you know, when I would speak on a stage and I would
get all wound up and I would inspire and I would do all this stuff,
and then they'd say, we always have to be prepared for those people
that caught Doctor Kevin Fever called it ductor Kevin f And Yeah, but I
think that it is really powerful and really beautiful because there are not enough of
us out there holding non judgmental, unconditional loving spaces. That's right. And
you know you learned it from your grandmother. Yeah, she's a foundation of
everything I teach. I learned it from my grandmothers as well. Um And
and I'm going to say in my case also that Papa taught me. My
father, Papa's taught me unconditional love. Um. So I was lucky because
I had three people that in each and every one of them in their own
way. And I think that unfortunately, there is a tendency in society,
and it's one of the ones that you and I in touching people and the
work that we do that we really need to try to change this false reality
of the way that people who often are unconditional loving and non judgmental are seen
as weak or less or not as somehow that that somehow, it's almost you
know, the old like, well, you know, that's what you call
a sucker type of thing. And I think that it's very woven in because
again, our institutions fear unconditional love, and they fear people coming from a
place of non judgment but discernment, because they know all their asses would get
fired if people really discerned what they're doing. But yeah, what did we
look at It is that we who we who are discerning, need to be
able to be standing in our power. So it doesn't matter what people think
of us, so that they will think of you in different ways. But
as soon as you're standing that power, it doesn't matter what you think.
The secret is to touch more people and keep on touching people and get a
really said. That's why I talk about the movement, the freedom entrepreneur movement.
We get that effect going, that's what we're going to change turn things
around. So I don't know if you were I don't know if you remember
this, but of course you know we'd be at CEO Space, and they'd
be all these business owners entrepreneurs want to be entrepreneurs, and a lot of
them be in business suits and ties and stuff like that, and yep,
and you know, and kind of have that sort of straight lace thing.
And by the last few years I was teaching, one of the things I
was known for was my doctor Kevin hugs, and people would come and say,
I was told when I came to CEO Space, I needed to get
a doctor Kevin hug, to the point that the last few times I taught,
I would stand there in a line would form so everybody could get their
hug. That's right, and we need more of that in the world.
And I'm really happy that I know that you're out there actively trying to create
that. Thank you. We are going to be running out of time any
minute now. Any last thoughts or things you want to say, any other
things. What is the closing message you would like to leave to the Doctor
Kevin audience today? I would like audious to know that the moment they have
the clarity and realize that they have an issue, and they take ownership of
that issue, and they're looking for another, and they're looking for another,
they're looking at life. If they can embrace this awareness that there are not
who they think they are, but we are all connected. If they understand
that whole concept, then there's nothing else in life to be concerned about.
So I go back too, even though it's not a perfectly aligned cultural connection.
I go back to where I started this interview, which is, don't
worry, be happy. Yep, yeah, that's all. Thank you for
joining us in the doctor giving bye, right,