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and to create the new generation.
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people do not have children, there
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much in favor of humanity expanding and
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world. And but fundamental to the
furtherance of human civilization is having humans,

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as simple and basic as that sounds. And every year I look at the

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birth rates and I'm like, it's
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decline every year. And I think
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to your government leaders, and to
the people in general would be to make

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sure to have children to create the
new generation. And I think any incentives

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that can be done to incent the
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women to have children and to support
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wise. This is so fundamental and
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you don't have a new generation,
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current birth rates, I think it
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maybe half of the replacement rate.
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the population will be one roughly one
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generations maybe four generations that you're the
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size. So I always want to
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and fundamental that if there's not at
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constant, then a people will will
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We have a lot of immigration.
Somebody says that immigration is important for that

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reason. What's your point on that
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in America from the south of America, and then you Rope from the south

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of the Mediterranean Sea. What do
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think one can't depend on other countries
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world, and it seems to be
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once the country urbanizes, the population
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could say, for example, like
China could not possibly solve its population with

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immigration, because if China is currently
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its population every generation, that would
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people, or roughly seven six seven
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to simply maintain numbers just for China. So immigration there simply aren't enough numbers

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in immigration. And I think there
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want cultures. We don't want Japan
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culture to disappear, we don't want
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think we have to have maintain this
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countries. Well, they simply will
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people of Italy. The buildings are
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is the people of Italy. So
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I speak as someone who is very
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believe in having building a sustainable future
for the world. I think that there

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are very few people who as an
individual, who have done more than I

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have for to help the environment with
electric cars and solar and batteries to create

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a sustainable energy future. Because we
absolutely need a sustainable energy future. But

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there is an aspect of the environmental
movement that I think has gone too far.

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Really said from you, yes,
so said for me. I think

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I am objectively one of the world's
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I'm an environmentalist who does the talk
of action, not talk. I act.

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So I feel I can say,
as as an environmentalist that the environmentalist

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movement has gone too far. And
in that if you in the natural extension

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of the environmentalist movement, if you
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at humanity as a bad thing.
You start to look at humanity as though

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we are a plague on the surface
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a bad thing. And in fact, there are some people who think and

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say explicitly that. In fact,
there was on the front page of the

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New York Times there was a guy
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on Earth. It would be better
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Definitely, you told me I joke
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to joke about the cows and the
problem with the cows. You remember that,

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Oh yeah, don't worry about the
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are not going to destroy the environment. Cows are fine. Yes, Oh,

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we have a lot of flaws European
laws. Again, all the people

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who walk to them. It is
a big issue for it because it seems

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in green issue, but he's a
very industrial issue for us. Yeah,

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I think farming and cows are not
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environment. Yes, underline please,
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if you say, like, there's
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environmental standpoint for carbon, which is
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of tons of carbon from very deep
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it to the atmosphere and oceans.
That's actually really all that matters, is

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taking vast amounts of carbon from underground
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atmosphere by burning it. And if
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you will get to climate change.
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is somewhat overblown in the short term. It's still a concern in the long

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term, but I think it's exaggerated
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I have to try to thread the
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what is sensible, what really matters, and what doesn't matter. What really

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matters is that over the long term, over the course of the next several

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decades, that we gradually reduce how
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that we move from underground to the
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climate experiment that is dangerous. But
I also don't think that I'll think of

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it as a fundamental civilizational risk.
It's not going to destroy life on Earth,

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it's not going to destroy humanity,
but it will create hardship if you

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change the climate over many decades.
So I think my message is like I

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think much more pragmatic, and I
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think we should demonize oil and gas. I think we should say, look,

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that is obviously necessary in the short
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in it to take several decades to
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just, without getting too worried about
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future gradually, then that's what will
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of the environmentalists movements is part of
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the future. So I guess what
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hope in the future, we should
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should both the future we want.
What about and you call it the walk

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mind? Yes, sure, he's
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illness. What's that virus? Yeah, so so it's coming to Europe.

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should import from America. Please don't
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consists of creating very divisive identity politics, so it actually amplifies work virus.

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Mind virus, in my view,
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all the isms, and while claiming
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people and makes them sort of hate
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themselves. And it's also anti meritocratic. It's not like, it's not merit

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based. So you want to have
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and the talents, not who they
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what race or gender. That stuff
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civil war that is created and it's
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fun. Okay, it is like
workminde virus and fun are incompatible. It's

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no fun in that no joye virus
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people, like when in the work
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condemning and being divisive and being just
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yeah, yeah, it's bad,
so bad. Yeah, but you get

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a lot of problems saying so on
your social in Excel. Have this point

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of view. You are a good
friend of my administration and now they don't

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really like you so much for this
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not. I don't know. I
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I'm very pro civilization. I'm in
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expanding on Earth and going beyond Earth
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civilization and being out there among the
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universe, like all the things that
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thing. Something you can get really
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excited, like we want to have
ideas that make you look forward to waking

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up in the morning, look forward
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future. And so you have to
say what excites you about the future,

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what moves your heart about the future, what makes you say like yes,

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I'm glad about what will happen in
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on. And that's why we have
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to build and we've got to grow. And like I said, we understand

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this, understand the nature of this
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the meaning of life or even what
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Let us explore this wondrous creation and
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my philosophy. Let me go back
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you about your perception of Europe as
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Europe douce have won a lot of
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a different approach to the immigration.
We heard Meloney did a lot on that

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with the Remi rama I see in
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you think about this approach of Europe
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as an established, well, I
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immigration overall, I'm very much in
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generally, I think which one should
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willing to work hard and is honest, has high integrity, and will add

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to any given country. If somebody
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not have them join? That is
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I think it's good actually to have
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legal with paper, with some approval
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really hard working and high integrity,
let them in. I think that's great.

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how do you know who's coming?
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to have some basis for saying somebody
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And my argument is like it should
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add to the country, will they
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and do they admire the culture?
Do they want to join because of the

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culture, Then that's great, But
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you don't know. I think least
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well will not be necessarily and I
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be misconstrued. I'm not saying all
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of them are good, but there
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for reviewing, not at all.
Then how can you say that everyone who

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is a legal immigrant is going to
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say that. You simply don't know. So I want to be clear.

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Top line, pro immigration, but
let's increased legal immigration, but we should

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stop illegal immigration. I think this
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of company, so that's right.
You can drink because I want to do

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the list of the company. Yeah, you have five to seven minutes to

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do that. I mean, I'm
joking with space x X never a link.

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So many excess, oh the excees. Just what my favorite letter is.

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It's a good please to invest Italy
and it's a good place. Please

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to invest some of I mean not
your money, but they have some investment

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from your company. Of the American
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in this place. What's your opinion? No, I mean, I think

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Italy is an incredible country, incredible
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the Italian people. I think you
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I personally, actually, I want
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of every country. I want the
prosperity of humanity as a whole. And

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like I said, I want us
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up about what's going to happen and
really excited. So and I think Italy

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is a great place to invest.
It's a great it's a great country.

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birth rate. And if a company
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well, you have to say,
like, will there be enough people

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to work there? It's a simple
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then if the workforce is declining,
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It's simple. If there's no people, there's no people to work. Yeah,

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than that though I'm so worried about
that is the problem. I feel like

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a total Cassandra here, because like
I seem to be worried about it much

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more than other people. But there
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don't make a new generation of people, there is no new generation of people.

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So that's it. I know,
I'm I'm being real repetitive here,

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but I'm just trying to state fact. So and yeah, so it's a

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good place to invest. I no, I agree. It's a good place

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to invest and a wonderful country.
So please make more Italians, is what

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I'm saying. You said once that
the Internet is the system, is the

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now down your world, the never
system of humanity? What's it? Yes?

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Once to me? Yeah, a
long time ago intelligence for your artificially,

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if that is a nerver system in
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the the biggest inflection point in intelligence
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be essentially sort of a new species
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think one of the biggest challenges if
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the risk to the future of humanity, birth rate is one of them.

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If we just don't have kids and
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talked a lot about. The other
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course that kind of thing. Then
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need to be I think we need
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But it is very much it's very
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of AI as kind of like the
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be capable of doing anything, pretty
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consciousness. I'm wondering about that.
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of like what is consciousness in fact, So here's like I would say,

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I've thought a lot about what is
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if physics is true, then we
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things are almost entirely hydrogen, and
then if you leave the hydrogen out long

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enough, eventually it coalesces into stars, and then those stars explode and then

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they recondense. So like most of
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the center of a star, which
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and so where along the lines of
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You get very serious when you speak
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If you leave hydrogen out in the
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itself. Yeah, we are hydrogen
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that? So, if it is
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laws, personal behavior, how to
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a process. I mean, I
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on artificial intelligence. I mean I'm
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so that there's someone can at least
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of any game, like there's always
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that affect the good of the people, there's there are regulatory agencies that oversee

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those industries. Anything that's dangerous is
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I think we should have the same
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ensure that it is beneficial. The
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headed for a future of abundance.
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is quite profound. Like I said, it's the magic genie AI and robotics

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will get you anything you want.
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tales about magic genies, it doesn't
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be careful what you wish for,
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So it's just something we should be
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side, it will bring many benefits. Like I said, it will usher

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in an age of abundance, so
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there's an age of abundance and there
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that any scarcity that it exists will
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scarce. So and it just seems
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So there is that supposedly that Chinese
saying about may you live in interesting

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times? Well, I think we
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in all of history right now.
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it's beneficial AI. Great, we
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the governments like, I mean,
they are elected by people like Maloney and

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this government and the other government,
they have any risks or what do you

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think about these challenge the executive of
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intelligence? Are they any risks?
I mean that democracy is finished. Well,

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and manipulating public opinion. So I
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public. I think so, yeah, okay, but I think probably,

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like I said, eighty percent probable
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that. I'm always worried because we
have a new government is two years,

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this government almost two years, and
we have a Europe for US is our

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artificial intelligence. It seems like artificial
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Europe, and so I'm wondering what
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Europe for US is so important the
relation. I understand artifican intelligence in the

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future, but in the present we
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What do you think about that?
If you have any what do you think

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about Italian government which is trying to
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position, Miloni, I don't know
if there's more than a position. You

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want me to be more tough than
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you think it's good to have a
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mean, I would say different from
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you mean like country decisions versus EU
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immigration of I mean there's a separate
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and there are too many regulations in
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a case of AI. I think
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fundamental function of a stable civilization.
The longer that any given civilization is stable

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and does not have a big war, the more rules and regulations will accumulate

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over time. So rules, regulations, laws there are immortal. They never

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die, so but people will die. So if every year more and more

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rules, regulations and laws are added, you will eventually make everything illegal.

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And you can think of it.
Galiver's Travels, where Gulliver if the nation

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is gulliver is being tied down by
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and eventually you have millions of strings, and then the giant can't move.

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and laws, because if we keep, if we simply, if all we

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do is add them, eventually we
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I do some question about your companies? Because here are all the young people,

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not only the young people from an
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of them use the social network,
they use X. And then I saw

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in the past days that the CEO
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to invest any advertising on X,
and he's investing, for example, in

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the may Die in the Instagram and
he said that there are problems of I

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don't know which kind of problem they
find ons I want child exploitation or yeah,

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what's going on where an important investor? Like? Then they said something

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so tough on X. What's going
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first of all, I think X
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already seeing advertisers return to X.
So I guess they were I don't know

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if set with something I said or
something I don't know, but they advertisers,

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I think are the brand advertisers are
a little They always worried about their

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brand, and maybe I think maybe
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But I think it's a short term
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they sometimes get upset, but then
they usually calm down and they return

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to advertising. So come on,
you know that there's a walk virus over

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there? Well, oh yes,
I don't want to answer for you.

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I know you're right. If we're
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then the work work mind virus will
fight back, and unfortunately, Disney is

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deeply infected with the work mind virus. In fact, if you ask an

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AI what is the most work company
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you have to say, what would
I mean? I think they should be

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asking themselves what would Walt Disney think
of Disney today? I think he's turning

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in his grave. I think he's
not happy. Sure, if the namesake

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of the company is not happy,
that's probably a bad science. Because Walt

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Disney, what did he care about? He cared about bringing joy to people's

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lives. Het up making wonderful things
that children and families could enjoy and he

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was created some of the coolest art
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hundred years after it's created, we
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thing. But you have to say, how great was Walt Disney? Was

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amazing? But now Disney, at
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the work mind virus. I think
that will that will change? Yeah,

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on X. You know that maybe
they're a little they got the work my

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a virus too. Yeah, I
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it's like, why are they importing
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it's just some thing that was created
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in US colleges, and now it's
spreading all over the world. And it's

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like, like the thing is the
work Whinde virus. It's not a message

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of joy, it's a message of
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It's a message of hate. And
it's like and so I'm like,

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like, let's I don't know,
I'm in favor of like have a future

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that's got more love, more like
more and let us build a fun,

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exciting future. And the work bind
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condemning this condemning that it's like and
it's also like just being like it just

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wants to scold you all the time
and treat you like. I don't know

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if it wants to be scolded.
It's not fun. So anyway, I

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think we want to have a like
So I guess at its heart, my

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concern is that the worklind virus is
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If it represents a cost for your
company, what should you have a

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trade off between the cost of your
position and the cost for the company.

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What's your choice? And how much
is important in your behavior? The free

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speech standing, that's the question.
I do think free speech is incredibly important

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because if people cannot speak their minds, and then we won't have a democracy.

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Democracy is the foundation of democracy is
freedom of speech. But also saying

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something, So is laughing at that
because he knows that it's so important for

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you. But tell me more about
the free speech because here is very important

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person here couldn't speech for a lot
of people because they were considered with Marvericks

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and worse than that, free speech
for everybody is important, not just for

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the person who say the right things
correcxactly no, exactly. Free speech means

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that free speech is only relevant.
Free speech is only meaningful when if you

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allow people you don't like to say
things you don't like. So that's how

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it's working. That's how you know
it's working, because once you start to

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censor people you don't like saying things
you don't like, it's only a matter

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of time before that censorship turns on
you. Eventually. Look by the sword,

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die by the sword, Look by
censorship, diaby censorship bloom, I

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got see what you spoke about free
speech. You're both Twitter for this free

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speech? Do mean just for the
free speech, not for the business inside

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you both? Yeah? Well,
I mean here's the thing. So I

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think you have to say, like, if civilization is not strong, if

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civilization doesn't grow, then nothing else
matters. Profits don't matter. If civilization

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collapses, there's no profits, there's
no we are not we cannot exist absent

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civilization. So sometimes maybe people may
say, like, well, is this

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an altruistic thing? I mean,
I think it's for me, it feels

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altruistic. But even if it's even
if one is not altruistic, even if

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one is very self centered. You
have to say, if you simply think

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long term, you have to be
pro civilization because you cannot exist without civilization.

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How important from zero to you escape? From Jill to ten money you

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are the breachest person in the world. How is important money for you?

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From zero to ten? Zero is
the less important? And is that good?

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I don't know. I don't want
to one or two or something.

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Now, come on, no,
I mean wols. Well, like the

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reason I guess I have what wealth
or it's really just shares in the company,

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is that I've created these companies.
And these companies like SpaceX Tesla is

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one hundred and forty thousand jobs direct
worldwide. At five times that number,

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maybe almost a million jobs when you
look at the whole supply chain is what

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Tesla has created. And then SpaceX
is about fifteen thousand people. And also

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like maybe full total supply chain fifty
thousand people. So I mean I,

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basically, with the help of many
talented people, built these companies, and

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then the circle these wealth statistics simply
they simply add up what the ownership is

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in the companies and say Okay,
this is a certain amount of money,

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but I don't actually have that in
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Just it' said that the companies have
succeeded. But how was the last launch

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of the SpaceX? That'll me something
that's question. Please jomind me the last

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launch. I see there sitting on
the floor. Why are you sitting on

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the floor? Are you worried about
the hind How was the last launch?

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Was you were optimist about your SpaceX? The big Yeah? So we'll starship.

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So the exciting thing about Starship is
that it's the first rocket design that

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could make life multiplanetary, that could
enable a self sustaining base on the Moon

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and a city on Mars. So
because it is it's not just a very

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large vehicle, but it is designed
for full and rapid reusability. So that

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would lower the cost of access to
space by I don't know, maybe one

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hundred or more. And so and
basically, if it's the first rocket that

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is capable of building a base on
Mars and a base on the Moon,

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yes, that's the fat. So
there's the great Italian physicist in Rico Fermi.

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I'm a big admirer of Fermi,
and he had. He was very

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good at asking profound questions. And
one of his questions, which is called

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the Fermi paradise, is where are
the aliens? And one of the explanations

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is that, and perhaps I think
the one that I think is most appears

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to be most accurate is that consciousness
is extremely rare. That people often ask

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me, how do I know about
aliens or something like that, ask that

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a lot. And the crazy thing
is that I've seen no evidence of aliens

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whatsoever. This means that I think, most likely, at least in this

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part of a galaxy, we are
the only consciousness that exists. And so

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you can think of human consciousness really
as like a tiny candle in a vast

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darkness, and we must do everything
we can to ensure that the candle does

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not go out. Great, we
can finish with that. We can finish

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with that. Okay, we can
finish with this. Oh and so so

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it's worth reading about the Fermi paradox. And because people have thought very hard

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about this because they are these because
one of the things is like, well,

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maybe they are these great filters,
and these civilizations don't pass these filters.

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One of the filters is do we
become a multiplanet species or not.

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If we do not become a multiplanet
species, then eventually, at some point

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something will happened to the planet.
Either it will be man made or it

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will be something natural like a meteor
or like whatever killed the dinosaurs for example. So