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And y'all ripped. Ugh, you
need advice, so you don't help,

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you'll come run anxious as fast as
you can. Shooter's gonna help, come

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Man Dix. He is the Troubleshooter
Show. No Tom Martine, Hey,

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welcome to the show. I'm here
to help you solve your problems, answer

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your questions, take your complaints,
make your life a little easier. On

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Tap today I got Grossman wellness doctor. Terry Grossman a friend and he is

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also my doctor, and he will
be on. So he does have permission

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to talk about, uh, the
fact that I'm his doctor, because all

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that hippocrap, you know. Anyway, So we'll be talking to him about

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health and wellness in a way you
may not have heard before. And then

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we'll talk to anybody who calls with
problems, question complaints. I also want

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to talk about the TikTok band,
because I really delved into that and I

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have some serious questions about it and
Pie Pie. As soon as I said

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that, people are reaching for the
knife and fork. The history of Pie

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Pi. I have no idea why
we have Pie Day and why it's important,

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but we do, and Pie just
went out looking it up. What's

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pie real quick. What is it? What's the ratio? What is it?

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Three point well? Do you remember
three point one? Four? Right?

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Today's and it goes on and it
goes on infinitely and never repeats and

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times. What's amazing date? What's
that? It is? Today's date?

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Oh, that's why it's oh day. What an idiot I am. I'm

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wondering why they picked it as pie
Day. I would never use those words.

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Oh my god, So you made
it in, Shannon, and I

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hear Kaschina back there. She made
it in? Mark is a big woopbag

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you. Oh you're there. I
was going to talk about you. You

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didn't make it in though, did
you? How many? You can't make

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it out of my driveway? Are
you nuts? What snow? He's out

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in Franktown Era. What's how much
snow? I'd say thirty inches so far?

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Without blinking? Okay, well,
you know, well everyone knows what

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the city has. And I'm in
the city and I did have to drive

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this morning. Long story, but
I did have to drive. I had

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to meet somebody. And I do
want to mention, by the way,

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that Premiere Window Cleaning and Pressure Washing
is doing snow removal today on a no

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obligation basis. In other words,
a lot of people don't have contracts,

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or they expired or you know what
I'm saying is and now it's March and

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they're saying, who do I get
to remove this snow? And anyway?

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They want you to know they're going
to be doing it at Premiere Okay,

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and I'm going to give you that
number so that now they don't have us

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plow for big parking lots, but
they'll do residential driveway so they have snowblowers

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and shovels and people and they're ready, willing and able to get to you.

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Okay, seven to zero nine five
three zero zero seven eight for immediate

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snow removal on a case by case
I need it now basis. In other

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words, they're not obligating you to
a contract or anything, but if you

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want one, they'll get you on
a seven two zero nine five three zero

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zero seven eight. Trust Premiere Window
dot com. That's if you need snow.

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Let me go to the phones and
then we'll talk to doctor Grossman and

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his deputy doc didn't make it in
Diddy Dinny as well. He's remote as

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well because he's an old poker buddy
of doctor Grossman here. That's a I

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guess doctor's like to gamble and play
golf. Anyway, Danny, what's going

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on? Danny? Oh? Yes, sir, Sorry, what's happening?

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Well? First off, I just
wanted to say I have listened to your

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show for quite a long time.
So how old are you, Danny?

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How old? Thirty five? So
it would have preceded your your birth and

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and did you get introduced to it
by your dad or your uncle or grandfather

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or something. Yeah, I remember
my parents and my grandparents listening to you.

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That's how it works. Welcome aboard. What's going on? I just

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had a question about I received a
debt collection letter from a collection agency and

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I filed a dispute with them.
I know what is the debt for?

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Is it something you recognize? Yes, it's it's a cell phone. It's

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a leftover amount for a previous cell
phone company I was with that I was.

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I went in on the contract with
my brother. How old was I

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debt? Six months? Okay,
because six years or longer, they can't

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file for a judgment, so it
really doesn't have any legs. So anyway,

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do you want to settle this debt? Is that what you're calling about.

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Well, I wanted to dispute the
debt because kind of things kind of

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went south between my brother and myself. Well, what do you want to

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dispute if you were on the If
you're on the contract, then you had

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a problem with your brother not coming
through. You can't dispute the debt with

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the collector. The creditor doesn't care. So was it you and your brother

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on this bill? Correct? We
were both on the bill, And what

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ended up happening was I had removed
myself from the account, and then he

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went after, how did you remove
yourself? We both got on the phone

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and talked to the cell phoned company
and I had to give authorization to split

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from the account, that he would
take over the control of the account.

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He didn't want to change carriers.
Did you get any kind of confirmation in

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writing or anything? No, no, I did not. So right now

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they're simply going to say it's a
joint account. They're going to show the

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original contract. What would you have
to prove you weren't on it. I

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don't think I have anything. How
much are they trying to get from?

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It's only it's four hundred and seventy
dollars. Where's your deadbeat brother? That's

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that's that's an entirely different question.
I don't know. Oh wow, so

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you were once on the account.
You claim you were taking off the account,

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but you have nothing to show it. I have bad news for you,

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Danny, seriously. I mean,
they don't have to take you off.

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I mean, anyone can say that
any kind of collection in the world.

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I was taken off that okay.
I mean that's the bottom line,

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unless unless you can tell me,
you know, here's what I have a

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confirmation number, or I don't know. I mean, if they don't acknowledge

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it. How how long ago were
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eight months before that, so it's
been less than a year. Okay,

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Well that's good. That's good.
Will they at least go back and check

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phone records? Do you have a
eight Oh yeah, I'm sure that that

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could be Uh, that could be
done. My my question was more along

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the lines of I filed a dispute
with the credit agency and they just instead

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of responding to it, they just
sold my debt to somebody else. You

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mean, the cell phone company sold
your debt. Well, if the cell

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phone company sold to a collection agency, and then I disputed that, I

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sent them certified mail, disputed it, and instead of responding to me,

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that credit agency I'm assuming sold it
to a different credit AKA because I can

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use that the same collection for a
different company. They can do that.

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They don't have to. They don't
have to respond if you dispute it.

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No, no, man, the
credit reporting agency does not the creditor.

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A creditor should respond, but they
don't have to. They can just say

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you the money, or they can
sell the debt. You don't have any

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special rights for them to respond.
I wish you did, because it would

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keep people out of court, but
I think you would lose it anyway.

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I don't know on what basis your
what I would say if you're going to

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dispute it with the new people,
since simply say it was your brother's account,

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not yours, make them prove it. I'll bet you they don't have

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the original contract. I mean,
you can try to play your bluff that

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way. That would be the best
way to do it. Already, I'm

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getting a text. By the way, you can always text the show five

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seven seven three nine. Already I'm
getting a text. When they heard doctor

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Grossman on Grossman wellness. I think
it's called I call it concierge medicine.

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I mean, not me, but
that's what everyone calls certain kinds of medicine.

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Is that what you call your medicine? Concierge medicine, doctor Grossman?

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Is that basically it? Well,
contenter's medicine. A lot of people are

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becoming disenchanted with having to, you
know, wait long periods of time to

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see their doctors. Yeah, and
they want a more personalized relation on doctors

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are under the on to see many
patients, yeah, per day, et

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cetera. So they've turned to this
concierge model where people pay a certain amount

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of money every month and then they
have greater access to doctors. And it's

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typically not an insurance based model.
Now, but you've been doing it way

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longer than I heard about it.
And the concierge has become popular the last

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five years. But you've been doing
this way longer than that. Oh yeah,

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we've been doing it for twenty five
years. So what made you go

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into that model? I became I
was, you know, I'm a regular

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medical doctor, right, but I
became a little bit disenchanted with conventional therapies

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and more interested in more alternative,
holistic, complimentary therapy and longevity stuff and

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longevity stuff. I was getting older
myself, right, and so as I

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moved into this model, I found
that it really didn't fit with an insurance

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based practice. So I became because
it's a wellness practice. It's not come

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to me when you're sick. It's
come to me regularly and you won't get

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sick or we try it on me
exactly. That's what our model is.

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And so people pay a small amount
of money each month and then they have

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yea access it that most medicine should
be that way. I think it really

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should, I think, and I
think we're moving towards that model more and

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more. I want to know one
question you hear another text real quick,

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what's the most common mistake people make, just if you had to pick one

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when they come to see you,
what's the most common thing you see?

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Stress? By far, meaning they
don't deal with it, or they have

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it. They have it everybody there. It takes a toll on you.

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It takes a toll on you.
Yeah, it really does. I mean,

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I think we're all stressed out by
one thing or another, and I

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think stress interferes with so many of
our Hell, what can you do about

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stress? Take more vacations, get
a massage. But there are there are

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actually there are actually supplements. Yeah, it takes stress fighting supplements. There

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are a couple great herbal supplements.
There's one I like called Rodeola r h

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io d o l a Rodeola rosia
and it seems to work as good as

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like that, I know. Do
you like Ashawandada Yeah, Asloganda's uh An

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ir Vedic herb. And it's also
a great stress for Liever helps your body

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deal with stress. All right,
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two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom

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Martinez, you're a troubleshooter. Three
all three seven one three talk three oh

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three seven one three eight two five
five. Jeff has a problem with a

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dumpster. Jeff, what's happening?
Hi Tom, thanks for taking my call.

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What's going on? Man? I
last September I rented a twenty yard

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dumpster from a place called Big Bob's
Dumpster. It charged me three hundred dollars.

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And what was it? What did
you rent it for? Oh?

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I put yards and stuff in it. I filled it up. Okay,

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So about five four days ago,
I got a collection of the agency calling

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me saying I owe another place called
trash Daddy Dumpster six hundred dollars for the

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rental. Now what, so you
already paid for big what was the guy's

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name, Big Bob Bob's Dumpster.
You so you already paid for that one?

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Right? But I so I got
a hold of trash Daddy Dumpster and

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this is what happened. They were
scammed a lot. A person that I

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rented from rented from trash Daddy.
I paid Big Bob's Dumpster, which got

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it I don't even think of a
legit company. And they didn't. They

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put it on a credit card,
just speed to the chargers, so they

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didn't charge. They didn't. How
did they trace you? How did they

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trace you? Man? How do
they know you had their dumpster for that

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time? Because there's my address?
Oh, I'd say he's got an affirmative

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defense. I don't know if he
doesn't not. I mean, I mean,

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what I'm saying is is that he
paid. He paid the subcontractor in

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full. If he has the receipts
from Big Bob's I think he would win

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in court. Okay, I'm going
to say one thing that could possibly step

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in the way of that could possibly
what if, for example, Big Bob

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stole some supplies and installed them at
his house. I'm not saying this is

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the same thing, but I'm just
giving a scenario, and he paid Big

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Bob in full for him, and
he would have an affirmative defense if he

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had certain things his residence, his
contract, proof of payment and full But

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there's also something else here with the
dumpster. I know why they're going after

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him. Trash Daddy's thinking, we're
going to get paid probably if we go

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after the customer. But there's something
else called quantum marrowit, which means you

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got value and didn't pay for it. I do agree that he's a victim.

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They're both victims, but I don't
know how it would shake out.

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Jeff, how far is trash Daddy? How much was the bill? How

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much does trash Daddy want? Okay, well, they charged six hundred dollars.

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But this is what happened real quick. Well, how much do they

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want from you? About six hundred
dollars? All right, keep going?

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What were you going to say?
Okay? Well, I contacted trash Daddy.

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They were very very cooperative and helpful. They have a five star rating

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good goodness. They said that you
know what, we got ripped off?

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About eleven thousand dollars in a two
month period. They worked with me and

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said, you know what you got
ripped off, We got ripped off.

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We're going to squash this. Good. They were very helpful. But I

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want people to know that the collection
agency said they could put a lead on

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my house for this, even though
I I paid big boxes. Oh whoa

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hold on? If trash Daddy doesn't
want to pursue it, why would the

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collection agency pursue it? Well,
First of all, I was contacted by

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the collection agency. Then I contacted. I get that, but what But

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but did trash Daddy sell that to
them? Or are they because trash Daddy

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simply can tell the collectors stop collecting. No, you've seen these contracts time,

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We've looked at them. These contracts
are straightforward. Once you agree to

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it, they get to decide what
they do. They basically own the debt.

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Yeah, if that was the case, that's what I was asking.

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Is trash Daddy still in charge here? And they just hired the collection agency

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or as a collection agency calling the
shots? Well, I was contracted by

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the collection agency first, So then
they said they could put a lien on

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my house. I didn't want that
to happen, so I reached out to

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trash Daddy, but trash Daddy worked
with me. Okay, so what's happening

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now? Well, I at first
I just want to know if they could

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put a lien on my house.
I don't think so. But I mean

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they could, but they couldn't perfect
it. Yeah, I mean it would

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go away. Well, at first
I was nervous about that, but then

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when I reached out to trash Daddy, they worked with me. And were

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very helpful and cooperative. So I
want people to know that just because you

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ran from one guy doesn't mean that
he turned around and ridge it from another

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company. And no, I get
what you're saying, man, I get

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exactly what you're saying, And I'm
really happy that you know that that the

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the other place trash Daddy was stand
up people and they're saying, look,

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we're not going to make you pay
for us skiing ripped off. I do

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want to cover this one more time
for anybody listening out there. If it

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is your own residence, your home, not a rental, nothing like that,

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but your home, and you paid
a contractor in full, he did

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not pay his suppliers, he did
not pay his contracted labor. He didn't

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doesn't even matter. But if you
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you have an affirmative. You have
to have a written contract that has to

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be your primary residence and it has
to be paid in full. Mark I

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agree. What I'm asking is I
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It might, but I don't.
I don't know why it wouldn't.

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I mean, I mean, because
you're you're renting a dumpster. I don't

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know. I mean, is that
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your house? I don't know.
I have to look more into the landman.

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What I'm saying is it's an affirmative
defense. If they attempt to lean

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the property, they'd be going after
the property. They would be bringing it

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into the realm of the property.
Yeah, that's a good point that they

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try. But Mark, what if
someone else gets a judgment and puts a

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lean on the house. We should
you know what we should not? And

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it has nothing to do with the
house. That's what I'm getting at.

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Affirmative defenses for leans are usually for
improvements to the property. Now, we

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could probably make an argument, Okay, this is an improvement to the property.

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It helped improve the property. Who
do you think we should check with,

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like Brad O'Brien. Yeah, and
basically I'm reading it here, basically

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says under Colorado last supplier, subcontractors, other persons furnishing labors or providing labor

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or material for work on your residential
property. I mean that covers like any

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thing I can imagine. Yeah,
it does. I would like to ask

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him. I'd like to ask him
his opinion, though, Sure, I

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want to tell you that I had
no idea who trash Eddie was when I

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did this, Big Bob. No, I get it. I get it.

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You were screwed. I get it. Yeah, I don't know anything

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about trash Eddy till five days ago. No, No, I totally get

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it. Three oh three, Okay, seven to one to three. Talk

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hold on, and we're going to
try to get Brad O'Brien on to talk

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about Leans in general, because there
is an affirmative defense. And again,

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this is something that a lot of
people don't fully understand. And it is

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only for your primary residence. It's
not for commercial contracts. It's also you

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have to have a written contract with
proof of payment and full blah blah blah

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oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty
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know a few years ago there was
a law passed that helped people deal with

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leans, and it basically gave them
an affirmative defense if a subcontractor came by

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and said, hey, we weren't
paid, but there were certain conditions.

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You had to have had it done, the work done at your primary residence.

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You had to have a written contract, and you had to have proof

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that you paid the general. Now, Brad, is that correct? First

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of all, am I remembering that
correctly? I'm not sure if you're describing

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something besides the mechanics than the statute
for a mechanics slean there there. There

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was a few years ago or several
years ago, the Affirmative Defense passed where

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which gave consumers a defense if they
could prove they paid the general. Oh

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in the general didn't pay the subs
right, Yeah, that's that's a trust

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fund statute type of a claim.
Do you know. We were just curious

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Jeff rented. This is a weird
one. Jeff rent it a dumpster for

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a project he was doing at the
house. He rented the dumpster. The

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guy who the guy he got the
dumpster from, was subleasing it, and

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he never paid the guy who owns
the dumpster. The guy who owns the

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dumpster sent to creditor after Jeff.
Now Jeff has since gotten it taken care

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of. But we had a curious
question would this fall under that If he

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could prove he paid for that dumpster
once, could that preclude the owner of

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that dumpster coming back to him.
That's a pretty nuanced question, I know,

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but it is it is the same. I mean, if the collector

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said, hey, you didn't pay
for this dumpster, well, just as

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a general think of this. Someone
is building your garage attached to your house

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and they have to get a dumpster
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So the dumpster is there part part
of the entire contract for the work

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done. I don't know what difference
it would be if it was just a

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dumpster. Neither do I, but
go ahead. In generalities, a sub

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can go directly after the homeowner for
a mechanics lean bypassing the general contractor if

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the homeowner knew about the sub's work, or if there was a contract that

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tie the all together. Where the
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where the homeowner was unaware of the
subs work and there's no written contract.

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Okay, So now some mechanics naans
can also be suppliers vendors leans. That

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would be this case. This would
be like a supplier. They supplied the

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dumpster, they were never paid for
that dumpster, but the homeowner paid the

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guy. Okay, well, so
it doesn't sound like the the the dumpster

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vendor can can go after the homeowner, but they wouldn't because they got paid.

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But it's basically a subsidiary dumpster vendor
who had who might have might have

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had a claim. So yeah,
potentially they could have had the Connects claim

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climb against the house. Does that
answer your question? Yeah, yeah,

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I'm thinking that Jeff is protected.
Really the bottom line, Brad O'Brien is

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a real estate attorney and handles things
like this of course, but again it's

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it's really a weird one. But
Jeff, if I were you, you

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did take get it taken care of, and thank you for warning us.

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But I want to tell people and
Brad by the way, if you need

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to get a hold of him,
is ols law dot com seven to zero

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three seven zero seventy three eighty eight. Now, one thing I do want

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to say, if ever you hire
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you hire a general. Make sure
everything is in right with the general,

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and then don't sign separate contracts unless
you're going to pay people directly. Sign

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You might even want to ask for
lean waivers too, right, and you

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sign with the general and then you
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Again, in general terms, I
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big money. You pay as you
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a question on materials or subs,
if ever you hear any rumblings investigated immediately.

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I mean, that's why I always
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on big projects, there's nothing wrong
with asking for references, not only previous

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customers, but suppliers as references.
So let's talk to Claire. Now,

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who has an issue with a contractor. Claire, go ahead, what's going

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on? Hi? Toon, Hi, what's happening. I hired a contractor,

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Gates Enterprises, for a variety of
hail damage repairs. One of them

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was roof replacement. Got a replacement, some deck railing painting, okay,

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and the roof went great, I
believe, But I pay the majority of

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the insurance. They agreed to do
this work for the Now, how did

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you enter into it? How did
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my neighbor. He Gates did my
neighbor's roof and they were in and out

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in two days. My neighbor was
very happy with their work. And then

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I looked them up on the Better
Business Bureau and they had an A plus

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rating. Yeah, which means nothing. We have people in prison with A

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plus ratings. I don't know how
I can get this across the true The

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Better Business Bureau is a dinosaur.
It's like it's amazing to me they're still

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around. They're a useless organization.
I would like to ask anyone anywhere if

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the Better Business Bureau ever, ever, ever, ever, ever put someone

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out of business, or sued somebody, or got money back for somebody directly.

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I'd like to know that the answer
is no. They're just a dinosaur.

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And what bothers me is these A
plus ratings? Mark and my Lion

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or dying on. We sent the
guy to prison. We were instrumental in

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it. He's in prison for embezzlement
and screwing clients, and he has an

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he didn't he have an A plus
rating. Yeah for about a year after

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he was in the pen for twelve. Well, he's in there for twelve

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and for the only reason they took
him off the A plus rating is because

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we started making fun of them.
We started making fun of the Better Business

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Bureau. Yep, people can look
up Don Eiley, Don Eiley anyway.

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Is he still on the Better I
wonder he might still be up there.

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They finally I don't know what they
finally did, but they did so.

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Claire, Here's what I want to
ask, how much did you pay up

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front? I didn't pay anything upfront? Because they agreed to do this for

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insurance, and they waved my deductible
which was one thousand dollars when they completed

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the root, which is by the
way, fraudulent on your part for the

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insurance. But go ahead, keep
going. Oh interesting, Yeah, if

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you read your policy and they wanted
to reduce their cost by a thousand,

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it goes to the insurance company first. But keeping on, that's either here

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nor there. They talked to you
into doing that. Go ahead. They

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replaced my roof, and I paid
them the big check of the insurance money

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that the job was thirty five thousand, I paid them twenty six thousand.

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So after the roots, and at
that time they took down my gutters,

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I was without gutters for a month
and for and without gutters, we had

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a couple of snowstorms and the drops
were going straight down and I was fearful

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of water in my basement. I
kept calling them, but I got no

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one to respond to me for two
weeks. At that point, I felt

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I'd been scammed. I was worried. But in December they did call me

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and they did put in gutters early
December, but they don't work. So

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now I have paid them all but
forty seven thousand dollars, I mean forty

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seven hundred dollars. And my question
to you is am I obligated to give

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him this money when my gutters don't
work? I mean the gutter drips about

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a foot on the right side of
the gutter. Well, here's what you're

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here's what you're uh, you're obligated
to do. In my opinion, it

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hasn't been decided in court, but
most courts would rule you give them a

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chance to mitigate and fix. If
they don't, you can go out and

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assess how much it'll cost to fix
that problem and apply that money for that.

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But then this guy can come and
lean it. You're going to have

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to defend yourself. So here's what
I want to know. How the bottom

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line is the gutter's leak? Is
that right? Or do they leak in

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one spot? Let's get right to
it. They've one gutter leaks in one

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spot and I have had him out
here twice. All right, Any good?

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Do you need someone else then to
look at it and tell you what's

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wrong with it? And then if
he won't make the appropriate repair, you

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tell him you're having it done.
The owner, Andrew Gates called me up

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two days ago and was very aggressive
with me, first to accuse me of

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not accepting his call and sending it
to voicemail. Well, if only one,

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you know, it might be a
little overreaction, If only one gutter

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is leaking, Well, I guess
there's other work, so they Okay,

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see now you're a moving target.
So tell me exactly what is not done

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on your house. We have a
gutter leaking. What else? Okay?

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They have not removed removed vent cap
furnace and replaced vent caps. I don't

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even know what those are. But
was that part? Was that part of

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your contract? Yes, they have
painted my deck rail, but they just

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painted over what was there. The
work is terrible, really terrible. Okay,

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hold on, we'll come right back
to you. I got some ideas

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three O three seven one three A
two five five Go with a sure thing

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413
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with Remax Alliance. Three oh three
nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi

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Tom Martino, your troubleshooter three O
three seven to one three talk three oh

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three seven one three eight two five
five. Welcome to the show. All

417
00:32:04.599 --> 00:32:09.119
right, Claire, here's the deal, Okay, bottom line, what you're

418
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saying is you're not pleased with the
work. It really comes down that you're

419
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simply not pleased with the work.
And what you would like to do is

420
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you would like to withhold payment.
Okay, you can, but I'm going

421
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to tell you something. It has
to be justified. You already got that

422
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thousand dollars off from your thing,
and you owe four, so technically you

423
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would owe another five. But I
don't even want to get into the numbers.

424
00:32:34.880 --> 00:32:38.759
You better have somebody justify everything that
needs to be corrected and how much

425
00:32:38.799 --> 00:32:44.039
it's going to cost. Okay,
because you talked about at first just one

426
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gutter leaking, now you're telling me
there's a bunch of stuff you don't like.

427
00:32:46.839 --> 00:32:50.759
So here's what's going to happen.
When did they finish the job?

428
00:32:50.960 --> 00:32:54.680
When did they actually finish the last
part of the job. The first week

429
00:32:54.720 --> 00:33:00.240
of March. Okay, they have
a certain amount of time. I think

430
00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:02.799
it's four months from the time they
leave the job to put a lien on

431
00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:07.359
your house. Okay, Well he's
according to his phone call two days ago,

432
00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:09.799
he is putting a lien on my
house. Well, first he has

433
00:33:09.839 --> 00:33:13.240
to do it and intental ly,
and he has to give you a warning.

434
00:33:13.759 --> 00:33:15.319
And he has every right to put
a lien on your house. I'm

435
00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:22.519
not speaking to the quality of work
right now. That Gates Enterprises has every

436
00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:25.039
right to put a lien on your
house. You have every right to dispute

437
00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:28.400
it. But it's going to be
a mess. Okay. I would guess

438
00:33:28.400 --> 00:33:32.400
that contract you signed with Gates says
that every penny you get from the insurance

439
00:33:32.440 --> 00:33:37.680
company goes to them. Correct,
And I'm happy to give it to him.

440
00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:40.359
I have no problem paying them.
Well, you just said you didn't

441
00:33:40.359 --> 00:33:45.400
want to because the work sucks.
No, no, I want to withhold

442
00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:49.759
the money untill that gutter drains correctly, and I actually had. But what

443
00:33:49.799 --> 00:33:52.279
about the other problems you brought?
No, no, no, what about

444
00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:55.680
the other problems you brought up.
Well, I also have unfinished work.

445
00:33:57.359 --> 00:34:00.799
Okay, what about that? So
there's more than the gutter. I guess

446
00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:04.920
I need to know from you.
Number one. Can he record our phone

447
00:34:04.920 --> 00:34:09.159
conversation because he did? Yes?
Yes, yes, okay? And how

448
00:34:09.199 --> 00:34:15.639
would I know if my roof is
completed? I have the inspection notice here

449
00:34:15.679 --> 00:34:19.360
and I got a mid roof sign
off, but I don't know if I

450
00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:22.440
have. I don't blame you for
wanting to know this, Claire. You

451
00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:25.440
should. You should make sure it
passes inspection. Yes, and if you

452
00:34:25.559 --> 00:34:30.559
have any doubts, you can hire
an independent roof inspector, and there's nothing

453
00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:34.400
wrong with doing that. If you've
lost your trust to this guy, you

454
00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:37.920
can have all of the work inspected
and then you can demand that it be

455
00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:40.719
fixed. However, I'm going to
tell you something. If there's a difference

456
00:34:40.719 --> 00:34:45.320
of opinion. One guy says,
hey, this is fine, and you

457
00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:49.159
say it's not. That they get
to lean. That doesn't mean they're gonna

458
00:34:49.400 --> 00:34:52.920
it's going to go anywhere, but
they can lean, and then you have

459
00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:57.440
to fight to show that you had
every right to withhold that payment. Now,

460
00:34:57.480 --> 00:34:59.960
if you want, we can call
him for you and say look,

461
00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:02.360
why don't you just fix the stuff
and she'd be happy to pay you if

462
00:35:02.400 --> 00:35:07.039
you want us to do that,
Tell Kashina and we'll do that. I'm

463
00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:12.199
Tom Martine way back with Grossmannwellness dot
com. Coming up on the Troubleshooter Show.

464
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We got more to talk about.
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Alliance three all three nine two zero
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Martino, Hi, Tom Martino,
Your Troubleshooter three all three seven one three

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talk three all three seven one three
eight two five five. Welcome to the

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at the lowest prices. You know, water is one thing we better think

476
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about with health. I mean,
it's uh, it's something that with the

477
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new nanoplastics and everything found, it's
amazing. And speaking of health and water,

478
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by the way, three oh three
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five four of the best systems at
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Grossman with me from Grossman Wellness.
I am a patient there and I've been

481
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talking about them because they do a
wellness wellness care, you know, and

482
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that's where you pay like a flat
feet month and it depends on what you

483
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want, you know, what programs
you're part of. But it's a few

484
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hundred bucks. It's not a lot
of money. It includes so much stuff

485
00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:06.039
supple and all that, and uh
some of the prescription drugs and it's really

486
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good stuff. And then blood work
every three months. All of that you're

487
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not nickels and dimed. And then
you get the consultation. So before we

488
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get into that, I wanted to
ask you, I mean, by the

489
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way, I welcome your calls on
anything three oh three seven one three talk

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seven one three eight two five five
on health or anything. Give us an

491
00:37:24.199 --> 00:37:30.239
update on weather if you want.
But doctor Grossman, water, do you

492
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:37.639
think I've read different things that there's
been too much emphasis put on hydration.

493
00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:40.559
Now I'm not saying we shouldn't hydrate, but there's too much put on it.

494
00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:45.480
You don't really need ivs, you
don't really need to hydrate like that,

495
00:37:45.719 --> 00:37:51.360
And there's a controversy as to exactly
how much water you need. Where

496
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do you stand on water? Well, we'll get to the purity of the

497
00:37:53.119 --> 00:37:59.000
water after this, but water in
general, hydration, well, I think

498
00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:06.239
are chronically dehydrated a lot busy,
we forget to drink water. And at

499
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one time they said, well we
all need to drink one ounce per pound

500
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of body weight, so other people
said half an ounce. So there's been

501
00:38:16.199 --> 00:38:20.800
a big debate about that. Bottom
line is lately, what a lot of

502
00:38:21.880 --> 00:38:25.039
authority are saying is it's very simple. Just look at your urine and if

503
00:38:25.079 --> 00:38:30.840
your urine is a light yellow color, then you're getting enough hydration. And

504
00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:36.199
if your urine gets dark, well
you need more water. It's that easy,

505
00:38:36.400 --> 00:38:37.440
just to say, what about pureness
of water? What do you think

506
00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:45.400
about that? Well, that's one
of the one of the most amazing advances

507
00:38:45.719 --> 00:38:50.239
of the last century is the availability
of clean water. I mean, all

508
00:38:50.280 --> 00:38:54.559
of these water borne illnesses that made
so many people sick and even killed people

509
00:38:54.639 --> 00:38:59.599
in the past is no longer a
problem. So it's mostly a matter of

510
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number one, making sure that you
have good filtration systems. Generally, city

511
00:39:05.159 --> 00:39:12.159
waters are treated with different chemicals to
make sure that that they're safe. We're

512
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not going to catch anything. But
I think that for most people, tap

513
00:39:16.199 --> 00:39:22.639
water is just fine. Okay,
what about the nanoplastics. Have you heard

514
00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:25.320
about those? I have heard about
that, and obviously that's a big concern

515
00:39:25.599 --> 00:39:29.199
and I don't know how we're going
to deal with that now. Okay,

516
00:39:28.920 --> 00:39:34.480
So vibration, water purity. How
do you feel about organic food? I'm

517
00:39:34.519 --> 00:39:37.000
just curious about all this stuff about
healthy because I don't necessarily go out and

518
00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:40.599
shop organic, Okay, but just
how far do you go? Like?

519
00:39:40.840 --> 00:39:45.119
What about organic? Do you buy
organic food? I do as much as

520
00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:50.480
possible. Number One, the price
of organic food has gone down over the

521
00:39:50.559 --> 00:39:52.480
years. It used to be at
a great premium, but now in a

522
00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:57.679
lot of cases, you can buy
organic produce and other types of products for

523
00:39:57.719 --> 00:40:01.079
about the same as conventionally raised and
they have the advantage of not having the

524
00:40:01.119 --> 00:40:05.440
pesticides and chemicals in them. And
I don't think that, you know,

525
00:40:05.480 --> 00:40:10.159
I think that some of the epidemics
of health, like the increase in breast

526
00:40:10.159 --> 00:40:15.519
cancer and women process take cancer men
is largely due to exposure to pesticides and

527
00:40:15.559 --> 00:40:17.840
plastics. So we can really avoid
a lot of that by eating organic.

528
00:40:19.039 --> 00:40:22.519
So I think if people can afford
it and it's easy to find, I

529
00:40:22.559 --> 00:40:24.880
would say, eat organic. Whenever
you do, you eat organic, we

530
00:40:24.880 --> 00:40:30.199
out of your way to find organic
stuff. Do you. Oh, he's

531
00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:35.880
not he lost him. Oh could
be the weather because he's on remote.

532
00:40:36.119 --> 00:40:39.960
But in any case, I'm not
a answer, gan. I just I

533
00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:43.800
often wonder, you know, how
much more does it do for you?

534
00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:49.480
There are studies tom in the medical
literature showing that there's a reduced incident of

535
00:40:49.519 --> 00:40:52.480
certain diseases for people who eat more
organic. And then, of course,

536
00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:55.760
like everything in medicine, there's studies. Oh, you find studies for everything.

537
00:40:55.840 --> 00:41:00.280
That's the thing like for example,
and I hate to open up this

538
00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:05.719
can of worm, but you know, vegetarian versus non vegetarian. Some of

539
00:41:05.719 --> 00:41:08.639
the sickest people I know were vegetarian, right, and that they're just not

540
00:41:08.719 --> 00:41:14.880
eating properly. And yet then there's
other people they say red meat will kill

541
00:41:14.920 --> 00:41:21.079
you. Now, I'm not an
absolutist on anything. I think the quality

542
00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:22.119
of what you eat has a lot
to do with it. I mean,

543
00:41:22.159 --> 00:41:25.280
there's bad red meat, and then
it would be better red meat. I

544
00:41:25.320 --> 00:41:30.679
don't know, and maybe red meats
should be avoided at all costs. I

545
00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:35.239
have no idea, but I do
know that there's something to be said about

546
00:41:35.280 --> 00:41:39.079
balance, and there's something to be
said about not being extreme. But how

547
00:41:39.079 --> 00:41:43.840
do you feel about this? I
mean, then there's the raw diet,

548
00:41:43.880 --> 00:41:46.639
for example, totally raw everything raw, no meat zero. I mean,

549
00:41:47.199 --> 00:41:52.760
I think any monolithic diet or let's
say, religious diet of any I don't

550
00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:57.559
mean that in a faith way,
but a religious diet is an improvement over

551
00:41:57.599 --> 00:42:00.760
the regular American diet. And that's
why I see people see improvements not necessarily

552
00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:04.280
because of that. Well, I
mean, do you see what I'm saying?

553
00:42:04.400 --> 00:42:07.840
I do. And you know,
one of the things that I heard

554
00:42:07.039 --> 00:42:13.280
was red meat is not going to
kill you. Now blue green meat that

555
00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:16.400
might kill you, so obviously,
but seriously, moderation and everything. Just

556
00:42:16.440 --> 00:42:21.079
like you're saying, I think that
you know people who are gonna eat red

557
00:42:21.119 --> 00:42:23.119
meat three times a day. I
think there may be health risks with that.

558
00:42:23.320 --> 00:42:25.320
No, I understand that. Yeah, but you know, eating red

559
00:42:25.360 --> 00:42:30.519
meat once in a while, eating
a healthful diet, moderation in all things.

560
00:42:30.639 --> 00:42:34.920
I think the Mediterranean diet, Yeah, great, emphasis on fresh fruits

561
00:42:34.920 --> 00:42:37.199
and vegetables, nuts, olive oil, red wine. You know, it's

562
00:42:37.199 --> 00:42:40.400
a moderate diet. It's the middle
of the road, and many people do

563
00:42:40.559 --> 00:42:44.559
very well with that. But here's
what I like, and I know you

564
00:42:44.679 --> 00:42:47.920
like it. No matter what anyone
eats, is this true or false?

565
00:42:47.960 --> 00:42:52.400
I think it's true, no matter
what anyone eats. I know people that

566
00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:55.440
eat like crab. I know people
that eat good and their freaking blood work

567
00:42:57.039 --> 00:43:00.039
might be the guy that eats like
crab shows no price problems. Why is

568
00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:04.280
that? Why can some people get
away with it? Well, it's all

569
00:43:04.480 --> 00:43:08.320
has to do with our genes.
And so there are people that you maybe

570
00:43:08.360 --> 00:43:12.039
I don't know if their patient is
yours or not, but there are people

571
00:43:12.039 --> 00:43:15.760
they eat like crap and their blood
work reads like perfection and they live to

572
00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:17.840
be one hundred. I mean,
it's crazy. I do have patients,

573
00:43:17.880 --> 00:43:22.800
and every doctor has patients. Genes
have a lot to do with it absolutely

574
00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:27.440
genetic tendencies. You know, they
eat a high fat diet, they eat

575
00:43:27.440 --> 00:43:30.199
a lot of sugar, they eat
a lot of red meat, they don't

576
00:43:30.239 --> 00:43:34.599
exercise, and yet they live you
know, ripe bold ages in perfect health,

577
00:43:34.719 --> 00:43:37.079
and other people that are doing everything
they can and they come down with

578
00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:43.320
serious desisses. So what percentage would
you say are the genes were dealt half

579
00:43:43.559 --> 00:43:46.039
ninety eighties? That's an interesting question
that you ask. Yeah, and I

580
00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:50.800
would say, fifteen or twenty years
ago, the feeling it was the rule

581
00:43:50.840 --> 00:43:54.199
of eighty twenty. It was eighty
percent our genes and twenty percent our lifestyle

582
00:43:54.239 --> 00:43:59.280
twunches. Now, over the years, now that the human genome projects has

583
00:43:59.320 --> 00:44:02.159
been completed, we've completely flipped that
around. So what do we say twenty

584
00:44:02.239 --> 00:44:07.000
percent genes and eighty percent of lifestyle
truices? Really, so we're dealt about

585
00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:13.239
twenty percent of our health. That's
right. Your genetic code will predispose you,

586
00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:17.639
but you can over I mean,
it's the overwhelming factor is really is

587
00:44:17.679 --> 00:44:21.519
what you put in, what you
put into your body or what you take

588
00:44:21.559 --> 00:44:25.480
out of your body. Absolutely okay, So on that vein, then if

589
00:44:25.719 --> 00:44:30.639
if you had do blood work,
I had a doctor tell me one time.

590
00:44:31.039 --> 00:44:34.159
Maybe you know me. I've known
him for years and years. You're

591
00:44:34.159 --> 00:44:38.000
not here anywhere. I'm not around
here doctor Rosedale, Ron Rosdale's he's just

592
00:44:38.239 --> 00:44:43.760
a guru on the low carb and
the moderate protein high fact. But anyway,

593
00:44:43.840 --> 00:44:46.719
bottom line is he said, the
truth of the matter, Tom is

594
00:44:47.840 --> 00:44:57.280
I can have patience and keep them
healthy, probably with very little physical touch

595
00:44:57.920 --> 00:45:02.320
and examinations. Sometimes you need that
for acute conditions, but most everything can

596
00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:07.039
be seen in the blood. Do
you agree that blood work is that important?

597
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:09.280
Well, blood work tells a lot, but we have other things that

598
00:45:09.320 --> 00:45:13.239
we want to look at as well. And I think that doing a physical

599
00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:15.880
exam is very very important. Yeah, And he wasn't saying it's not,

600
00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:21.679
but he's saying that really, most
of the time, the blood work tells

601
00:45:22.119 --> 00:45:24.639
most of your health situation. Yeah, I think I think that's true.

602
00:45:24.679 --> 00:45:28.559
You can learn a lot from the
blood, not everything. Okay, so

603
00:45:29.119 --> 00:45:32.320
let's talk about this. What can
you not tell from the blood? Well,

604
00:45:32.400 --> 00:45:36.519
what's your muscle mass? Oh?
Okay, what's your cat mass?

605
00:45:36.559 --> 00:45:39.920
All right, so that's an exam. Do you have to measure fat and

606
00:45:39.960 --> 00:45:45.159
measure what's your what's your lung function. Oh, what's your cardiac I mean,

607
00:45:45.559 --> 00:45:46.920
how long does it take for you
to run a mile? I mean,

608
00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:52.119
all of these things are questions that
we want to know in order to

609
00:45:52.199 --> 00:45:57.079
be perfectly healthy, and that's our
goal. The goal is good is not

610
00:45:57.280 --> 00:46:00.440
good enough? We really want optimal
and be optimal health. We need to

611
00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:05.199
know what you can do in these
other parameters other than blood work. Can

612
00:46:05.280 --> 00:46:12.880
you really really extend your life?
Oh? Absolutely? Do you really believe

613
00:46:12.880 --> 00:46:17.000
that? I really believe that the
lifestyle choices we make, in other words,

614
00:46:17.400 --> 00:46:22.320
what we decided to have for breakfast
this morning, yes, has a

615
00:46:22.360 --> 00:46:24.760
lot to say about what kind of
day we're going to have and how healthy

616
00:46:24.800 --> 00:46:29.840
we're going to be tomorrow. And
the lifestyle choices we make for lunch and

617
00:46:29.880 --> 00:46:34.320
for supper, and how we deal
with stress and how we sleep and exercise

618
00:46:34.519 --> 00:46:37.559
and all of these things are going
to have a lot to say with how

619
00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:39.960
healthy we're going to be going forward. So because there are some people that

620
00:46:40.039 --> 00:46:44.360
say, you know what, you
know, you're gonna live or you're going

621
00:46:44.400 --> 00:46:47.599
to die based on what it is, based on your life, based on

622
00:46:47.639 --> 00:46:52.840
your family eighty twenty, that's only
twenty. I see that. I see

623
00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:57.079
that that's what you're saying. And
that was from a genome study, that

624
00:46:57.280 --> 00:47:00.880
is from the Human Genome Project,
so they were able to tell us what

625
00:47:01.159 --> 00:47:06.000
every single how long has that been
going on that project it was first started.

626
00:47:06.039 --> 00:47:08.239
I think the first genome was done
by this guy, Craig ren Ventnor,

627
00:47:08.519 --> 00:47:13.920
and it cost over a billion dollars
to complete his genome to find out

628
00:47:13.960 --> 00:47:17.679
all of his genes. Here's the
first one. But nowadays the prices have

629
00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:21.920
fallen below one thousand dollars. Now, someone just texted me, I'm going

630
00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:23.320
to take a break and then we'll
talk about it. By the way,

631
00:47:23.320 --> 00:47:25.480
any calls you want, I know, it's a snowy day, it's a

632
00:47:25.480 --> 00:47:29.320
weird day. If you want to
get through, it's three oh three seven

633
00:47:29.360 --> 00:47:30.800
to one three talk through a three
seven one three eight two five five.

634
00:47:31.159 --> 00:47:36.599
You can also call three oh three
Martino. That's three oh three six two

635
00:47:36.760 --> 00:47:39.280
seven eight four six six. Let
me ask a question on blood work,

636
00:47:39.400 --> 00:47:43.039
right, And the good thing about
that number, by the way, is

637
00:47:43.079 --> 00:47:45.400
that you can call it twenty four
to seven Mark. I'm gonna have your

638
00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:47.000
question first up. I got to
take this break. Okay, right after

639
00:47:47.039 --> 00:47:57.239
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643
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645
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three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martino, you're troubleshooter.

646
00:48:28.679 --> 00:48:30.559
I got a question here, Oh
Mark, your question first, yes,

647
00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:36.239
and the very serious go ahead,
Doctor Grossman. I'm being very serious.

648
00:48:36.280 --> 00:48:39.159
So once a year before I go
in for my blood work in physical.

649
00:48:39.599 --> 00:48:44.079
This year, I did it about
two weeks ago before we went on vacation.

650
00:48:44.599 --> 00:48:47.079
So at the beginning of the year, in January, right around January

651
00:48:47.119 --> 00:48:53.599
fourth, up until basically the end
of February, I did zero carbs.

652
00:48:53.639 --> 00:48:58.639
I mean I had less than one
or two carbs per day, if even

653
00:48:58.679 --> 00:49:01.159
that much, and that would be
a little eamon my coffee. On top

654
00:49:01.199 --> 00:49:05.880
of that, I gave up alcohol
for that period of time, so no

655
00:49:06.039 --> 00:49:09.960
carbs, no alcohol. And then
the other thing I did was I went

656
00:49:10.119 --> 00:49:15.239
and worked out almost every day.
Instead of doing yoga three or four times

657
00:49:15.239 --> 00:49:19.159
a day, I was doing it
fourteen fifteen days in a row. So

658
00:49:19.400 --> 00:49:22.840
I go, I get my blood
work. Everything comes back great, My

659
00:49:22.960 --> 00:49:25.880
A one sees great. Everything's great. But I guess what I'm asking is

660
00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:30.280
if the next ten months I don't
live that same lifestyle and I only do

661
00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:34.480
that two months out of the year, I mean, what does that say,

662
00:49:34.599 --> 00:49:37.960
I You're not getting an accurate picture. Well, that's well I did.

663
00:49:38.079 --> 00:49:43.599
I'm sorry, doctor Grossman or doctor
Martinez. I was asking doctor Grossman,

664
00:49:43.679 --> 00:49:46.280
is that true though, if someone
goes out and corrects their body for

665
00:49:46.320 --> 00:49:51.400
two months out of the year,
I mean long term ramifications. I mean,

666
00:49:51.960 --> 00:49:53.719
help me talk to me, baby. Yeah, that's it. Well,

667
00:49:53.800 --> 00:49:57.159
let me ask you a question.
Why did you do such an ultra

668
00:49:57.199 --> 00:50:00.000
low carb diet for a couple of
months where you're trying to lose weight?

669
00:50:00.320 --> 00:50:04.320
Yeah? I did. I shedded
twenty five pounds in about six weeks.

670
00:50:04.599 --> 00:50:08.920
Okay, Well, I think that
you know the idea of yo yo dieting,

671
00:50:08.960 --> 00:50:13.679
where you gain weight then you do
something radical like no carves for a

672
00:50:13.719 --> 00:50:15.920
couple of months and you lose the
weight. Then you go back to a

673
00:50:15.960 --> 00:50:20.599
diet that enables you to gain weight
again. Then you yoyo like that,

674
00:50:20.760 --> 00:50:23.000
up and down with your weight.
There's a lot of health risks associated with

675
00:50:23.039 --> 00:50:27.719
that, and it becomes increasingly difficult
to keep your weight down. So I

676
00:50:27.719 --> 00:50:30.480
think moderation, you know, finding
a diet that works for you so that

677
00:50:30.519 --> 00:50:34.800
you can stay at But his question
is if he does this for and he

678
00:50:34.880 --> 00:50:37.840
shows good blood work every year,
wouldn't what I said? Would not what

679
00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:40.800
I said be accurate? You're not
getting an accurate assessment of health if you

680
00:50:40.960 --> 00:50:46.039
just let's just take let's just take
A one C. My understanding with an

681
00:50:46.079 --> 00:50:51.440
A one C is it's an average
of roughly three months of the body sugar

682
00:50:51.559 --> 00:50:54.480
levels at any given time. So
if for the two months leading up to

683
00:50:54.519 --> 00:50:59.039
an A one C test you're doing
that, I mean, are you getting

684
00:50:59.079 --> 00:51:00.840
a false reading for the rest of
the year. You're not getting a false

685
00:51:00.880 --> 00:51:04.679
reading, but you're not getting with
the rest of the year's reading. That's

686
00:51:04.679 --> 00:51:07.679
why he does it every three months. Explain your theory on every three months.

687
00:51:07.719 --> 00:51:12.280
I mean, nothing can trend you
catch it. Yeah, exactly.

688
00:51:12.360 --> 00:51:17.000
The idea is, you know,
the two pillars of staying healthy are number

689
00:51:17.039 --> 00:51:22.039
one preventing disease and number two early
detection. Right, so at least you

690
00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:24.880
can find it early. So by
doing blood work every few months, we're

691
00:51:24.880 --> 00:51:29.159
not going to get any surprises.
You know. We have a test now,

692
00:51:29.400 --> 00:51:31.320
it's called the Galley or Grail test, and this is what we're going

693
00:51:31.400 --> 00:51:34.920
to do. I got a text
about it. We'll talk about that coming

694
00:51:35.000 --> 00:51:37.559
up, but mark here I'm going
to give. I want to just say

695
00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:40.920
something. If you were low or
high on d and you did one test

696
00:51:42.480 --> 00:51:46.079
once a year, you wouldn't know
that. You know I have sometimes now

697
00:51:46.119 --> 00:51:50.159
I'm pretty dialed in, but doctor
Grossman will say, Tom, you know

698
00:51:50.199 --> 00:51:52.599
what, I don't know why this
DHA. You know, cut it back

699
00:51:52.599 --> 00:51:57.559
a little. And if I did
when a whole year high DH or ultra

700
00:51:57.639 --> 00:52:00.920
high iron or low this or high
this, it could have different effects than

701
00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:06.119
if I correct it in three months, right. I think the point I

702
00:52:06.159 --> 00:52:08.360
think, the question I really have
though, is this, guys, if

703
00:52:08.400 --> 00:52:14.079
you correct the body in that two
month period, I don't care if you

704
00:52:14.159 --> 00:52:17.719
work out ten times a day and
do everything else, it's perfect eat perfectly

705
00:52:17.800 --> 00:52:22.480
and you know a doctor can define
perfectly. But if you correct everything in

706
00:52:22.559 --> 00:52:27.440
a two month period and then you're
relaxed, and I'm not saying you go

707
00:52:27.559 --> 00:52:31.719
back to gorging or doing you know, one thousand grams of whatever per day,

708
00:52:31.760 --> 00:52:36.159
what I'm saying is, then I
don't want to make it sound like

709
00:52:36.199 --> 00:52:37.639
it's a yo yo diet. I
know how to draw. I know what

710
00:52:37.679 --> 00:52:42.559
you're saying. But what I'm saying
is if you bring yourself back to good

711
00:52:42.679 --> 00:52:47.159
fitness every single year and your blood
work does come back good, what I

712
00:52:47.159 --> 00:52:54.400
guess I don't understand the harm in
it well because mark your body is let's

713
00:52:54.480 --> 00:52:59.039
just say, I don't if that's
the way you live. But if you

714
00:52:59.280 --> 00:53:01.480
are doing it for two months out
of the year and the other let's say

715
00:53:01.480 --> 00:53:07.239
ten months you're eating like crap,
then you would then then that's not That's

716
00:53:07.280 --> 00:53:09.000
not what I'm doing. What I'm
doing is I go to the no carb

717
00:53:09.400 --> 00:53:13.719
because I know how to drop weight
really quick. But I don't think then

718
00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:15.920
I don't understand your question. But
all I'm saying is this, you don't

719
00:53:15.920 --> 00:53:21.920
get an accurate assessment of your health
if you're gauging it on two months of

720
00:53:21.960 --> 00:53:24.199
activity and one blood test. I
mean, that's all I can say.

721
00:53:24.320 --> 00:53:28.159
That's what I'm asking the doctor,
though. But when I do go out

722
00:53:28.239 --> 00:53:30.480
and he, let's say, I
go into him after those two months and

723
00:53:30.559 --> 00:53:35.599
doctor Grossman does whatever he does over
there and pulls all the blood work,

724
00:53:35.920 --> 00:53:38.280
I mean he's gonna say I'm healthy. I mean, is that not correct?

725
00:53:38.960 --> 00:53:40.920
Yeah? No, no it is
at that time, but I'd like

726
00:53:42.000 --> 00:53:45.000
to see what it is that's four
months later, months later. Then Okay,

727
00:53:45.280 --> 00:53:49.039
let's say and let's go down the
road with this. Let's say four

728
00:53:49.079 --> 00:53:52.559
months later, everything's a little higher, cholesterol is a little higher, A

729
00:53:52.719 --> 00:53:55.920
one sees higher, but they're still
in the green. They're still there.

730
00:53:57.320 --> 00:54:00.239
And then right before the blood test
after that, I do it again.

731
00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:05.119
I mean, I guess I just
don't understand what's wrong with that. I

732
00:54:05.199 --> 00:54:07.360
understand if there's nothing wrong with it. But if you truly want to know

733
00:54:07.960 --> 00:54:10.880
a picture of health, then you
need a picture of how you live,

734
00:54:12.280 --> 00:54:16.719
not how you live in two months. If you're asking, if you're asking,

735
00:54:16.960 --> 00:54:24.440
what two months correct the previous ten
months of bad doctor, maybe here's

736
00:54:24.440 --> 00:54:28.480
a better way. There's a lot
of snowbirds out there that you know,

737
00:54:28.800 --> 00:54:32.199
when they're out in Florida for the
winter. Here, they're running, they're

738
00:54:32.239 --> 00:54:37.679
exercising, they're doing everything. When
they're back in Colorado, maybe they're not

739
00:54:37.800 --> 00:54:40.639
on that same fitness model. So
both depending on where they're living and at

740
00:54:40.639 --> 00:54:45.079
what time of year, they have
different habits. But ultimately it doesn't matter

741
00:54:45.119 --> 00:54:49.880
because every year is the same and
they are healthy. I guess, is

742
00:54:49.880 --> 00:54:52.000
what I'm saying. But maybe I'm
wrong. No, No, I see

743
00:54:52.000 --> 00:54:55.599
what you're saying. It all comes
down to what you. I guess it

744
00:54:55.639 --> 00:55:01.159
comes down to you. Don't you
a race, You don't well, you

745
00:55:01.199 --> 00:55:06.199
can't erase actually sins of the past, but it's you can't do it.

746
00:55:06.280 --> 00:55:09.039
You can't trick nature. You can't
trick it by being healthy part of the

747
00:55:09.119 --> 00:55:14.199
year. Right. And there's it's
not white and black like this, right,

748
00:55:14.360 --> 00:55:17.559
So I think it's a it's gray. You know, it's a mixture.

749
00:55:17.840 --> 00:55:23.000
And I think that by doing a
detoxification or a low carb diet for

750
00:55:23.000 --> 00:55:25.599
a couple of months to treat some
issues, you know, know, that's

751
00:55:25.639 --> 00:55:30.360
fine and good, but then the
other ten months be moderate as well and

752
00:55:30.400 --> 00:55:34.960
be healthy doesn't mean it's okay to
go on a binge. Health is more

753
00:55:35.000 --> 00:55:37.679
of an average than it is a
snapshot, it really is. What are

754
00:55:37.760 --> 00:55:42.000
your thoughts on sugar? Doc,
I mean, Tom and I have discussed

755
00:55:42.519 --> 00:55:46.079
carbs in general for twenty years.
What are your thoughts on it? Are

756
00:55:46.119 --> 00:55:52.039
all carbs evil? No? All
carbs not evil? But there are you

757
00:55:52.079 --> 00:55:54.880
know, there are good carbs and
there are bad carbs. And but but

758
00:55:54.960 --> 00:56:00.119
even the good carbs should be limited, yeah, to a degree. I

759
00:56:00.159 --> 00:56:07.239
mean, but eating good carbs,
you know, unrefined grains, things along

760
00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:12.719
those lines. Vegetables are great good
carbs, good groups and moderation or good

761
00:56:12.800 --> 00:56:16.559
carbs. Whereas sugary you know,
desserts and sugary sweets and things like that.

762
00:56:17.199 --> 00:56:21.000
They raise your blood sugar right away, and when you have a high

763
00:56:21.039 --> 00:56:27.079
blood shair, bad things happen metabolically. For instance, cancer cells can only

764
00:56:27.159 --> 00:56:31.679
eat one food that's sugar. So
every time you load your bloodstream with sugar,

765
00:56:31.920 --> 00:56:36.079
you enable. We all have cancer
cells floating in our body all the

766
00:56:36.079 --> 00:56:38.639
time you enable, those cells have
a little bit of extra fuel, which

767
00:56:38.719 --> 00:56:43.920
is not good. Sugar also raises
your insulin, which raises your blood pressure,

768
00:56:43.960 --> 00:56:47.480
which leads to heart disease. So
I think sugar. I've written three

769
00:56:47.480 --> 00:56:52.599
books so far and in the first
book, I started to refer to sugar

770
00:56:52.760 --> 00:56:55.599
as the white Satan because I really
think that there are health risks associated with

771
00:56:55.920 --> 00:57:00.400
for most of us. You know, the average American eats in the namehood

772
00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:02.960
of one hundred and forty pounds of
sugar. Here, it's crazy. We're

773
00:57:02.960 --> 00:57:07.280
not just talking about why sugar,
pasta, potatoes, anything that's a simple

774
00:57:07.360 --> 00:57:12.639
carb that is sugar is sugar.
And then but there are there has been

775
00:57:12.719 --> 00:57:16.199
later research there there was and I
was talking to Mark about this research that

776
00:57:16.400 --> 00:57:20.440
all carbs, you know, just
eliminate them, you don't need them.

777
00:57:20.519 --> 00:57:23.480
And that's true. But what Doc
was saying about vegetables and things like that

778
00:57:23.760 --> 00:57:29.679
have other advantages that overweigh the small
carboy, Yeah, because they're packed,

779
00:57:29.760 --> 00:57:35.360
they're packed with different fund Then also
how they release the sugar has a lot

780
00:57:35.400 --> 00:57:37.280
to do with it too. Yeah, that's what they call the glycemic index.

781
00:57:37.360 --> 00:57:39.280
Yes, we got more coming up. I got to take this now,

782
00:57:39.320 --> 00:57:42.960
Brenda, Please hang on. Tell
Brenda, we'll get right to her

783
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00:58:15.559 --> 00:58:27.679
nine two zero sixteen twenty two.
Tom Martino, your troubleshooter. I want

790
00:58:27.679 --> 00:58:31.280
to take that call about a contractor, and then we'll take some other calls

791
00:58:31.320 --> 00:58:36.800
because there's somebody asks about that special
cancer screening and they want to know how

792
00:58:36.840 --> 00:58:37.920
good is it, how far out
does it go? All of that.

793
00:58:39.440 --> 00:58:44.039
I'm not sure did sus take that
cancer screening? I thought she was doing

794
00:58:44.039 --> 00:58:45.800
that one time. Maybe not,
I don't think so. Oh okay,

795
00:58:45.960 --> 00:58:52.280
hey, Brenda, what's going on
with a contractor? What's going on the

796
00:58:52.599 --> 00:58:57.119
biggest problem right now is they are
not returning my phone calls? Jay,

797
00:58:57.480 --> 00:59:04.679
Well, tell me what happened,
Brenda. Then we hired Walter Lovely as

798
00:59:04.679 --> 00:59:09.079
a consultant in twenty twenty one.
And who's Walter? Is his name Walter

799
00:59:09.280 --> 00:59:16.039
Lovely? Yes, he's okay,
He's just a consultant who hired all these

800
00:59:16.119 --> 00:59:22.800
contractors to start building. And how
did the consultant charge you? He just

801
00:59:22.960 --> 00:59:28.239
charged this twenty five thousand dollars.
And what were you having done every time

802
00:59:29.519 --> 00:59:32.320
the whole house built, the whole
little ADU built. So we'll see your

803
00:59:32.360 --> 00:59:39.400
general contractor or what? I really
don't know. I know, hey,

804
00:59:39.480 --> 00:59:43.320
listen, I can tell you what
he does because I already looked him up

805
00:59:43.360 --> 00:59:46.159
as we're talking about him. You
hire him to kind of go over the

806
00:59:46.360 --> 00:59:51.599
entire project, tom, So you're
hiring him to manage the project. He's

807
00:59:51.639 --> 00:59:55.159
like a general contractor, I guess
would be one way to okay, But

808
00:59:55.440 --> 00:59:59.559
when he brought the contractors in to
do the work, Brenda, for this

809
00:59:59.639 --> 01:00:05.440
ad you are you putting up an
extra dwelling unit on your property? Yes,

810
01:00:05.480 --> 01:00:09.360
it's up now okay. Is it
a tiny house? What is it?

811
01:00:09.360 --> 01:00:13.559
It's seven hundred and fifty square feet. Are you going to rent it

812
01:00:13.599 --> 01:00:19.000
out? Yes to my daughter?
Oh okay, because a lot of the

813
01:00:19.039 --> 01:00:22.920
city is encouraging people to do this, you know, for to help the

814
01:00:22.960 --> 01:00:27.840
homeless, not to give it away, but to help the housing crisis,

815
01:00:27.880 --> 01:00:30.840
I should say, for affordable housing. But Brenda, when he brought contractors

816
01:00:30.880 --> 01:00:37.159
in. Did you sign the contract
with the contractors or did he sign it?

817
01:00:38.760 --> 01:00:45.519
I signed it, okay, So
what is the problem now? Mister

818
01:00:45.599 --> 01:00:52.079
Lovely's people continuously did not pass inspection. So the regional building is on my

819
01:00:52.199 --> 01:01:00.480
side totally for this. So my
husband died October twenty third, twenty one.

820
01:01:00.119 --> 01:01:07.480
So then I hired one source said
that they could finish everything. So

821
01:01:07.559 --> 01:01:14.559
this was back in twenty twenty that
you hired Walter twenty two. I think

822
01:01:14.639 --> 01:01:19.519
the beginning of twenty twenty one we
hired him, okay, and then at

823
01:01:19.559 --> 01:01:22.079
the end my husband. The end
of the year, my husband died,

824
01:01:22.760 --> 01:01:28.519
and then so the beginning of the
next year we hired I hired one source.

825
01:01:29.320 --> 01:01:32.039
So what do you so are you
saying that? Are you saying somehow

826
01:01:32.079 --> 01:01:37.559
you were screwed by Lovely and his
gang? Lovely in his gang and one

827
01:01:37.599 --> 01:01:43.199
source in their people? Wait?
Yes, so both the first company you

828
01:01:43.960 --> 01:01:51.480
hired one source to fix what Lovely
people did? Right right? Oh,

829
01:01:52.360 --> 01:01:55.199
why were you screwed by both?
Okay? First of all, let's go

830
01:01:55.239 --> 01:02:01.039
through Lovely. You were not screwed
by Lovely because you signed contractors, which

831
01:02:01.119 --> 01:02:06.440
contractor screwed up? The ones that
Lovely gave you which ones screwed up?

832
01:02:06.480 --> 01:02:08.320
Now? I don't mean to know, I mean what jobs were screwed up?

833
01:02:09.760 --> 01:02:15.559
Okay, the windows, the framing
pass inspection. But then it turned

834
01:02:15.559 --> 01:02:21.719
out, now that we've done the
last inspection for the whole building, the

835
01:02:21.760 --> 01:02:25.440
windows were wrong, so they what
they put in there, and you just

836
01:02:25.519 --> 01:02:31.960
found that out now a truth?
Yes, yes, Brenda, Brenda listen,

837
01:02:32.280 --> 01:02:36.760
I feel Brenda. I really feel
for you because you're a widow.

838
01:02:37.079 --> 01:02:40.280
You're trying to get this thing done
for your daughter. I really don't mean

839
01:02:40.320 --> 01:02:43.760
to be a pain, but I
need to parse this out. When you

840
01:02:43.840 --> 01:02:47.320
hired Walter Lovely, you paid him
twenty five grand. Yeah, then contractors

841
01:02:47.320 --> 01:02:53.199
came through and they were supposed to
finish the job, right, Yes,

842
01:02:53.440 --> 01:03:00.039
are you saying they finished the job
but you needed to hire another contractor to

843
01:03:00.079 --> 01:03:05.840
fix it? Yes? Okay?
How much did it cost you? Not

844
01:03:06.000 --> 01:03:08.679
the twenty five grand, but how
much did it cost you for those other

845
01:03:08.840 --> 01:03:17.199
contractors that Lovely sent to you?
Oh boy, I have give me an

846
01:03:17.239 --> 01:03:24.119
idea of what you spend just roughly, I mean, do you know what

847
01:03:24.159 --> 01:03:28.519
you spent on your project? What
did you spend with Lovelase people? Not

848
01:03:28.639 --> 01:03:32.599
the hundred with lovelase people. I
don't have it all added up by no,

849
01:03:32.840 --> 01:03:37.480
you don't have to. I just
get so so hold on. And

850
01:03:37.519 --> 01:03:40.840
then then you hired and then they
did poor work. So you hired who

851
01:03:40.880 --> 01:03:46.039
who was the second one one source? And you say they screwed you to

852
01:03:46.159 --> 01:03:52.239
how did now? How did they
screw you? Terribly? But wow,

853
01:03:52.760 --> 01:03:57.360
and okay, mister Lovely's company,
I put in a brand new furnace and

854
01:03:57.599 --> 01:04:00.360
had a brand new air conditioning to
put in, but hadn't put it in

855
01:04:00.440 --> 01:04:05.960
yet. One source came in and
said there was something wrong with that furnace,

856
01:04:06.719 --> 01:04:12.079
and so they said they put in
a brand new furnace instead of that

857
01:04:12.159 --> 01:04:16.880
brand new furnace. And the city
had already approved the first furnace that they

858
01:04:16.920 --> 01:04:20.599
said was wrong, but then the
city disapproved because they put in a huge

859
01:04:20.639 --> 01:04:25.320
trace. So you didn't know what
you were doing. You were taking people's

860
01:04:25.320 --> 01:04:29.320
advice here, there and everywhere,
and basically just throwing money at this thing.

861
01:04:29.639 --> 01:04:31.480
What I want to know is this, at this point today, what

862
01:04:31.599 --> 01:04:35.760
is the total amount of dollars you
spend You spent on about one hundred and

863
01:04:35.800 --> 01:04:40.760
twenty five with Lovely and his crew, about what did you spend with one

864
01:04:40.840 --> 01:04:47.360
source? One source encouraged me or
talked me into getting a loan from a

865
01:04:47.360 --> 01:04:51.400
good lead for thirty five thousand dollars
and I have not paid it yet,

866
01:04:54.440 --> 01:05:00.800
but they say I owe them thirty
three thousand of the dollars, so they

867
01:05:00.840 --> 01:05:05.440
want thirty three. So your total
project would be one twenty five plus thirty

868
01:05:05.480 --> 01:05:13.360
three, so about one sixty roughly, yeah, or maybe more because when

869
01:05:13.360 --> 01:05:15.719
I had to get the windows six, that costs eight more thousand dollars.

870
01:05:15.920 --> 01:05:23.719
Okay, so what is your all
in going to be on this? I'm

871
01:05:23.760 --> 01:05:29.199
going to guess maybe one, yeah, maybe something. I said, yeah,

872
01:05:29.239 --> 01:05:31.679
well that's not a bad price for
that house. So what I need

873
01:05:31.719 --> 01:05:34.800
to know is, here's what I
need Tom Tom one source, just so

874
01:05:34.880 --> 01:05:39.320
you know, because I looked it
up. All they do is HVAC.

875
01:05:39.480 --> 01:05:44.719
So was the only problem the original
HVAC company? And if so, who

876
01:05:44.880 --> 01:05:48.719
was it? Because Walter didn't own
the HVAC company? Who was the original

877
01:05:48.760 --> 01:05:53.840
as here's what I want to know
before we asked that when you hired one

878
01:05:53.880 --> 01:05:58.559
source it was only for the HVAC. Well no, they said they were

879
01:05:58.559 --> 01:06:04.519
going to do the in capsulation around
the basement. It's not really a basis

880
01:06:04.519 --> 01:06:09.360
the cost. So they were going
to do a number of things. Yeah,

881
01:06:09.880 --> 01:06:12.760
okay, okay, I don't need
to get into every detail. Here's

882
01:06:12.800 --> 01:06:15.079
what I need to know, truly, What do you need now? What

883
01:06:15.119 --> 01:06:20.320
are you calling about? Now?
I need one source to return my calls

884
01:06:20.360 --> 01:06:27.039
and tell me how much they're going
to reimburse me for what they they put.

885
01:06:27.360 --> 01:06:30.440
The furnace that they put in,
they had to take out and put

886
01:06:30.480 --> 01:06:34.079
their original not the original one,
but the original same time back in.

887
01:06:34.599 --> 01:06:39.639
So I don't want to pay for
that. Well, okay, so you're

888
01:06:39.719 --> 01:06:43.559
saying that you haven't paid them yet, but they want thirty three grand and

889
01:06:43.639 --> 01:06:47.840
you believe you owe them less,
a whole lot less. Well, I

890
01:06:48.280 --> 01:06:53.480
think it's even worse than that time
she took a loan out with another company.

891
01:06:53.519 --> 01:06:56.920
I would guess one source is already
paid. No, they're not.

892
01:06:57.239 --> 01:07:00.920
They are already paid. Oh I
thought you said, I thought you said

893
01:07:00.960 --> 01:07:04.920
you had the money. No,
I meant I hadn't paid them personally,

894
01:07:05.159 --> 01:07:10.559
but especially if I called them when
the mess was happening and told them they

895
01:07:10.559 --> 01:07:13.920
hadn't done their job, and Goodley
told me, said only paid them half

896
01:07:13.960 --> 01:07:16.800
of the Look can I ask,
can I ask one thing? And then

897
01:07:16.840 --> 01:07:20.559
I know Tom's going to want to
break You just said something I don't understand.

898
01:07:20.920 --> 01:07:26.239
So you said they put in a
furnace, then they had to remove

899
01:07:26.280 --> 01:07:30.280
it, and I'm talking about one
source and put the same type of furnace

900
01:07:30.400 --> 01:07:33.639
back in that was already there.
Correct. Yes, then what did the

901
01:07:33.679 --> 01:07:39.639
original people ever do wrong? If
all one source did was end up putting

902
01:07:39.719 --> 01:07:44.599
in the same kind the original people
under Walter did, what the hell did

903
01:07:44.599 --> 01:07:49.559
they do wrong? Walter's people?
Nothing with the hvact. Okay, Brenda,

904
01:07:49.960 --> 01:07:53.199
I don't want to get complicated here. Here's what I want to tell

905
01:07:53.239 --> 01:07:56.519
you. You're telling me one source
got paid, We got to take a

906
01:07:56.559 --> 01:08:00.159
break. One source got paid too
much money. That's what you're saying,

907
01:08:00.239 --> 01:08:02.360
right, Is that the bottom line? Yes? All right? Hold on,

908
01:08:02.400 --> 01:08:09.880
we got more coming up. Hold
on, go with a sure thing

909
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01:08:14.440 --> 01:08:21.359
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912
01:08:27.119 --> 01:08:30.199
oh three, seven to seven to
one help. You'll think you're his only

913
01:08:30.319 --> 01:08:33.119
customer when you choose Frank durand the
real estate man dot com to list your

914
01:08:33.159 --> 01:08:45.199
home with Remax Alliance three oh three
nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi

915
01:08:45.319 --> 01:08:49.560
Tom Martino, your troubleshooter three O
three seven to one three talk three O

916
01:08:49.680 --> 01:08:57.359
three seven one three eight two five
five So Brenda bottom line here, we'll

917
01:08:57.359 --> 01:09:00.760
call them, but we need an
accounting Okay. I don't want to go

918
01:09:00.800 --> 01:09:03.479
tip for tat like this on the
phone and Brenda. So here's what we

919
01:09:03.560 --> 01:09:10.159
need. Basically, what need,
why you feel Let's keep it very simple.

920
01:09:10.199 --> 01:09:14.039
We don't have to give a complete
history of this project. But I

921
01:09:14.119 --> 01:09:16.279
really do want to help you,
Okay, I mean you lost your husband

922
01:09:16.279 --> 01:09:21.239
in the middle of this. This
thing sucks you basically said, one source

923
01:09:21.279 --> 01:09:25.479
got paid a certain amount of money. What you want to do is get

924
01:09:25.520 --> 01:09:30.359
a rebate and you feel there's certain
items. Can you show that to us

925
01:09:30.399 --> 01:09:33.920
in a very simple layout in an
email. Can you do that? And

926
01:09:33.960 --> 01:09:39.319
then we'll have Deputy Doc call over
there and he's handled these kinds of problems

927
01:09:39.359 --> 01:09:43.119
before, or we can even have
Mark call if I really want to help

928
01:09:43.159 --> 01:09:46.800
you. But I want to see
first the why you feel you need these

929
01:09:46.840 --> 01:09:53.039
rebates. Okay, Okay, so
here's how I wand do it. Can

930
01:09:53.119 --> 01:09:55.520
I can I throw one more thing
in? Go ahead? Go ahead?

931
01:09:55.600 --> 01:09:59.399
She gets herself or guide herself into
a situation. A lot of people do.

932
01:10:00.079 --> 01:10:02.039
Had work done to her house,
and they hooked her up with a

933
01:10:02.159 --> 01:10:06.600
finance company. You have to separate
these in your brain. You owe the

934
01:10:06.640 --> 01:10:11.439
finance company that money, no matter
what I'm not saying. I don't agree

935
01:10:11.479 --> 01:10:15.279
that the other companies shouldn't refund you, but it's right. It's a different

936
01:10:15.359 --> 01:10:18.159
deal. They trend lean your house, they can come after you. I

937
01:10:18.199 --> 01:10:21.640
don't think she's suggesting she's not going
to pay the loan, right, Brenda.

938
01:10:21.720 --> 01:10:27.760
You just want to rebate from one
source. Yeah. So I want

939
01:10:27.760 --> 01:10:30.760
to go down the items and I
want you to explain why you need to

940
01:10:30.840 --> 01:10:32.760
rebate. Make it very simple for
us. Okay, send an email,

941
01:10:32.880 --> 01:10:36.439
Kachina, give her our email address, and we'll take it from there and

942
01:10:36.479 --> 01:10:40.279
see what we can do to help. Deputy Doc, I'm going to let

943
01:10:40.319 --> 01:10:43.720
you take care of this because I
really think she needs help. Three all

944
01:10:43.760 --> 01:10:46.960
three seven to one three talk.
Yes, we have Grossmanwellness dot Com in

945
01:10:47.039 --> 01:10:50.720
the house. We'll get back to
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946
01:10:50.760 --> 01:10:57.399
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947
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949
01:11:08.520 --> 01:11:12.800
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950
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951
01:11:15.600 --> 01:11:20.159
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952
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all three nine two zero sixteen twenty
two. Yeah, ripped up news.

953
01:11:31.680 --> 01:11:38.399
You needed that? Who you don't
have? Come? Run anxious as fast

954
01:11:38.399 --> 01:11:45.039
as we can. Shooter's gonna help
come Man. Six is the Troubleshooter Show.

955
01:11:45.640 --> 01:11:49.960
Now Tom Martino, Hi, Tom
Martino here, Welcome to the show.

956
01:11:50.079 --> 01:11:53.840
Three O three seven one three talks
seven three eight two five five.

957
01:11:53.880 --> 01:11:58.279
So you know, I affectionately call
the people who stream my show on YouTube.

958
01:11:58.279 --> 01:12:03.560
I call my YouTube warns and uh. But then I call my Facebook

959
01:12:03.560 --> 01:12:08.359
people Facebook flunkies. And I said
Facebook's kind of a dinosaur. And one

960
01:12:08.359 --> 01:12:11.680
guy wrote said Facebook out numbers them
all, and I guess they do.

961
01:12:11.800 --> 01:12:16.600
So Facebook has three a little over
three billion active active users, it says,

962
01:12:16.600 --> 01:12:26.479
insane man. And TikTok has one
point five billion. Why did you

963
01:12:26.479 --> 01:12:29.199
say one hundred and eighty million,
Mark? You were way underestimating. No,

964
01:12:29.079 --> 01:12:31.279
no, no, us. So
there's two numbers. The three billion

965
01:12:31.479 --> 01:12:39.520
is global in the United States.
The best information I can find is about

966
01:12:39.520 --> 01:12:43.119
two hundred and fifty. You're right. Globally. Globally they say one point

967
01:12:43.199 --> 01:12:45.760
nine billion, and I don't know
how much of that's in the anyway,

968
01:12:46.079 --> 01:12:50.399
the US on TikTok is around one
hundred and eighty five million. Doc has

969
01:12:50.439 --> 01:12:55.960
a comment before it comes on.
Remind them what year it is. Okay,

970
01:12:55.960 --> 01:13:00.439
go ahead, Doc, Hey Tom, talk about a misiagnosed. I

971
01:13:00.479 --> 01:13:03.920
don't know if Terry remembers this,
but in ninety five I had a liver

972
01:13:04.079 --> 01:13:09.399
cancer and the people out here,
my friends, all the doctors that I

973
01:13:09.479 --> 01:13:13.279
knew, told me I had only
six weeks to live and to go and

974
01:13:13.319 --> 01:13:15.840
you know, get my affairs in
order and everything. And I got a

975
01:13:15.840 --> 01:13:20.800
second opinion. I went to slunk
Kettering and they cured my cancer. And

976
01:13:20.840 --> 01:13:24.560
here I am, you know,
forty years later. But was it a

977
01:13:24.600 --> 01:13:28.920
wrong diagnosis, Doc, or just
the severity? Well, no, they

978
01:13:28.960 --> 01:13:30.840
didn't know how to treat it.
They said, there's nothing we can do.

979
01:13:31.439 --> 01:13:35.479
So I got to you know,
I flew out to Plone Kettering and

980
01:13:35.520 --> 01:13:41.119
they were able to take care of
me. And after the surgery, I

981
01:13:41.159 --> 01:13:47.279
had absolutely no never had any more
complications from the cancer. Wow, God,

982
01:13:47.399 --> 01:13:51.239
that is hey, doc, Doc, how did you feel like?

983
01:13:51.800 --> 01:13:56.159
Of course you felt horrible. How
did that affect your life? Though?

984
01:13:56.199 --> 01:13:59.439
When that when they told you you
have X amount of time to live that

985
01:13:59.560 --> 01:14:03.680
he was pissed off. I was. I was so angry that I wouldn't

986
01:14:03.720 --> 01:14:09.520
get to see my son grow up. That that was the biggest thing.

987
01:14:09.520 --> 01:14:13.079
But I'll say after the service,
when I found out that I was cured

988
01:14:13.720 --> 01:14:17.279
for about two weeks, during this
Pollyanna stage, that everything is wonderful.

989
01:14:17.319 --> 01:14:21.000
Life is great, And then you
realize you have a family, you have

990
01:14:21.039 --> 01:14:26.000
a practice to run. Life just
comes at you. You can't be a

991
01:14:26.039 --> 01:14:30.560
Pollyanna. You have responsibilities, and
especially being a physician with a practice,

992
01:14:30.720 --> 01:14:34.720
you can't be a Lalla Land.
All the realities of life just come back

993
01:14:34.720 --> 01:14:40.880
at you and you forget about the
fact that you escape death. Wow.

994
01:14:41.079 --> 01:14:45.439
Wow, Tom, if you ever
wondered, like I think like an example

995
01:14:45.479 --> 01:14:48.640
would be Michael J. Fox.
Very successful, he had great movies,

996
01:14:48.680 --> 01:14:53.520
he had that TV show, then
boom, you get this diagnosis. It's

997
01:14:53.600 --> 01:14:59.039
life changing, and he seemed to
keep fighting and fighting and fighting. I

998
01:14:59.039 --> 01:15:00.960
don't know, Dad, do you
think you would or do you think you

999
01:15:01.000 --> 01:15:05.000
would give up with with anagnosis?
Like? It's hard. It's hard to

1000
01:15:05.039 --> 01:15:10.039
say. It really is hard to
say. I would like to believe until

1001
01:15:10.039 --> 01:15:12.720
it hits you what you know.
I'd like to believe I'd be a hell

1002
01:15:12.720 --> 01:15:16.560
of a fighter. But when I
think about some paraplegic or quadriplegics they break

1003
01:15:16.560 --> 01:15:20.840
their neck or something, I think
to myself, what what what? I

1004
01:15:20.880 --> 01:15:24.239
don't know. If I would be
courageous, I don't think I would be.

1005
01:15:24.319 --> 01:15:29.239
And it depends on the condition I
believe. Could you. I don't

1006
01:15:29.279 --> 01:15:32.319
think I could be. I think
I would be brooding and terrible and and

1007
01:15:32.319 --> 01:15:36.560
and try to suck down some fentanyl. I really don't think I would be

1008
01:15:36.680 --> 01:15:41.039
courageous if I was a quadriplegic.
I'm just gonna be straight. I don't

1009
01:15:41.039 --> 01:15:44.920
think I could be. I don't
think I could be either. I don't.

1010
01:15:45.159 --> 01:15:48.159
I mean, I'd like to believe
under some circumstances I could fire through

1011
01:15:48.199 --> 01:15:53.359
and be strong. But you know, and then then from both of our

1012
01:15:53.399 --> 01:15:58.479
doctors, we've got deputy doc.
Okay, from both of our doctors,

1013
01:15:58.520 --> 01:16:01.680
doctor Grossman and deputy Dock Well,
probably not Doc, because you were a

1014
01:16:01.680 --> 01:16:04.600
baby doctor and doctor Grossman. I
mean, I don't know your career,

1015
01:16:04.640 --> 01:16:10.760
but if you ever had to confront
a patient that's blood work or something has

1016
01:16:10.800 --> 01:16:15.319
come back, Doc, You've probably
had You've probably had things come up during

1017
01:16:15.439 --> 01:16:19.199
pregnancies that are horrible. How do
you talk to about such as doctor Grossman

1018
01:16:20.479 --> 01:16:26.399
in your practice? What I mean, because you do it so often.

1019
01:16:26.720 --> 01:16:30.000
You catch things very early, so
you've had a lot of You told me

1020
01:16:30.039 --> 01:16:34.319
one time, you've had a lot
of success not having people in your practice

1021
01:16:35.039 --> 01:16:41.720
die suddenly or or they if they
do, it's nothing to do with cancer

1022
01:16:41.720 --> 01:16:44.359
and heart disease and all of that. Weren't you able to catch a lot

1023
01:16:44.359 --> 01:16:46.000
of that? Well, that's the
goal. Yeah, I mean, but

1024
01:16:46.039 --> 01:16:51.640
there's always people. The two biggest
killers. Yeah, I'd say it's worldwide.

1025
01:16:51.880 --> 01:16:57.199
Number one's heart disease. Number two
is cancer, and that's more than

1026
01:16:57.239 --> 01:17:01.840
fifty five sixty percent of all this
if we had the ability to diagnose these

1027
01:17:02.000 --> 01:17:05.319
very early, at the earliest stages. So, in other words, cancer,

1028
01:17:05.760 --> 01:17:10.079
if it's stage one, it hasn't
spread, it's just localized. The

1029
01:17:10.199 --> 01:17:15.800
survival rate for almost all cancers is
over ninety five percent, whereas if it's

1030
01:17:15.840 --> 01:17:19.720
spread it's stage four. Metastatic cancer
survival rates are typically much much lower,

1031
01:17:20.000 --> 01:17:27.439
sometimes just a few percent. So
the idea is early detection, and doc,

1032
01:17:27.560 --> 01:17:30.359
is that all through blood tests?
Yeah, he's gonna talk talk about

1033
01:17:30.359 --> 01:17:35.359
that cancer screening. Yeah. The
last few years they've they've developed what they

1034
01:17:35.399 --> 01:17:41.680
referred to as a liquid biopsy where
they take a sample of blood and they

1035
01:17:41.720 --> 01:17:46.079
look for what are called ctc's circulating
tumor cells. And whenever you have a

1036
01:17:46.119 --> 01:17:49.039
cancer, even if it's the size
of a dot, the period at the

1037
01:17:49.119 --> 01:17:53.359
ends of it really yeah, yeah, it's smaller cancer, they can still

1038
01:17:53.399 --> 01:17:56.960
detect it. Yeah, it will
give off some cells in your bloodstream.

1039
01:17:57.279 --> 01:18:00.000
And this test, which is called
the Galery test, also known as the

1040
01:18:00.079 --> 01:18:04.199
Grail test as in the Holy Grail
because it really is the holy Grail of

1041
01:18:04.239 --> 01:18:10.399
cancer detection. They can test for
fifty of the more common types of cancer

1042
01:18:10.800 --> 01:18:16.039
cervical cancer, even when it's that
minute that's small tiny, okay, okay,

1043
01:18:16.039 --> 01:18:23.079
but wait wait mark the first obvious
question. If they detect these tumor

1044
01:18:23.119 --> 01:18:28.880
cells, do they know where they're
coming from. The lab will report the

1045
01:18:28.920 --> 01:18:32.720
result was either negative or positive,
and if it's positive, they will tell

1046
01:18:32.760 --> 01:18:38.439
you the most likely type of cancer
that it is. And in our experience

1047
01:18:38.439 --> 01:18:42.760
of doing this what it is.
Then we okay, so c for what

1048
01:18:42.920 --> 01:18:45.960
here? It depends on the cancer. So say, for instance, and

1049
01:18:45.000 --> 01:18:50.239
these are actual examples, someone turned
out positive for colon cancer. They went

1050
01:18:50.319 --> 01:18:55.680
into the gasterinerologists had a colonascopy.
They were able to see where the tumor

1051
01:18:55.840 --> 01:18:59.840
was, symptom and resect it.
It's gone. Another person had ended me

1052
01:19:00.279 --> 01:19:02.319
cancers and if they're tiny, tiny, tiny, they can find them.

1053
01:19:02.399 --> 01:19:06.760
Yeah. They we have pests,
scans and things. They were able to

1054
01:19:06.800 --> 01:19:12.199
detect various small cancers. And in
the case that it's not detectable, we

1055
01:19:12.319 --> 01:19:16.199
now have therapies that are not chemotherapy, the use of things like hid dose

1056
01:19:16.279 --> 01:19:21.199
vitamin C that can kill cancer cells
even when they're and then you do it,

1057
01:19:21.279 --> 01:19:24.600
and then you do a follow up
grill test. Then we do a

1058
01:19:24.640 --> 01:19:28.359
follow up grail test for testifying.
Have you had this happen in your practice

1059
01:19:28.359 --> 01:19:30.840
where you found cancers and eradicated it. We have, I'm glad to say,

1060
01:19:30.880 --> 01:19:36.039
we have holy crap cancers that would
have surfaced and possibly killed someone.

1061
01:19:36.199 --> 01:19:39.760
Well, you know, I don't
know what the future, none of the

1062
01:19:39.880 --> 01:19:43.840
court, but we do know that
the test was positive for this type of

1063
01:19:43.880 --> 01:19:47.119
cancer. We implemented some treatments and
then the follow up test was negative.

1064
01:19:47.720 --> 01:19:54.439
Now does it show just tumor markers
or does it show tendencies? These are

1065
01:19:54.439 --> 01:19:57.640
not tumor markers. Oh, oh, I'm sorry, these are tumor cells.

1066
01:19:58.800 --> 01:20:01.560
What's the difference. Okay, So
let's say, for instance, PSA.

1067
01:20:02.000 --> 01:20:05.680
We've already heard of PSA for prostate
cancer. That's a tumor marker.

1068
01:20:05.840 --> 01:20:10.439
Okay, you could have a high
PSA and not have prostateans just have a

1069
01:20:10.479 --> 01:20:15.159
big probitat. So it's a marker. This test, the dealer is actually

1070
01:20:15.199 --> 01:20:19.239
detecting, the cancer is actually detected. Now what do you say that insurance

1071
01:20:19.319 --> 01:20:24.880
company seriously would want everyone to get
that? And how often would you get

1072
01:20:24.880 --> 01:20:30.279
it? Well, ideally we would
do it every six to twelve months,

1073
01:20:30.279 --> 01:20:33.840
depending on our age. And ideally
insurance would pay for it, because we're

1074
01:20:33.880 --> 01:20:38.319
take some money in the long run, you think that that would be cost

1075
01:20:38.319 --> 01:20:41.520
effective. But the bottom line is
they were still not covered by it.

1076
01:20:41.720 --> 01:20:45.199
What does it cost. It's in
the neighborhood of nine hundred and fifty dollars,

1077
01:20:45.279 --> 01:20:48.560
so it's not an inexpensive test,
and insurance doesn't pay for it,

1078
01:20:48.600 --> 01:20:54.359
So that's remained a barrier to universal
DARC. Would you ever want one of

1079
01:20:54.359 --> 01:20:57.439
those? Yeah, I would have
no problem. In fact, I'll probably

1080
01:20:57.479 --> 01:21:01.199
have it done. Was that what
was the that thing that they put up

1081
01:21:01.199 --> 01:21:06.720
on your artery tom and then look
for issues there on your neck. Okay,

1082
01:21:06.760 --> 01:21:11.319
so this is the other yeah,
right, So we had mentioned the

1083
01:21:11.359 --> 01:21:14.920
two causes heart disease and cancer.
Yes, we've talked about the cancer early

1084
01:21:14.960 --> 01:21:17.479
detection, yes, with the glory
test, and then for heart disease early

1085
01:21:17.520 --> 01:21:21.199
detection. It's just what you're speaking
about, Mark, It's a roster sound

1086
01:21:21.520 --> 01:21:25.359
of the carotid arteries, the arteries
in the neck that go to the brain.

1087
01:21:25.920 --> 01:21:30.600
And this is extremely accurate, letting
you know if you've had the earliest

1088
01:21:30.800 --> 01:21:35.199
build up of cholesterol in the arteries, if you have arteries and the arteries

1089
01:21:35.239 --> 01:21:40.640
in your neck, the carotids overwhelmingly
you have them in your heart as well

1090
01:21:40.680 --> 01:21:44.359
in other parts of your body,
so you can then do follow up tests.

1091
01:21:44.640 --> 01:21:47.840
So early detection really is key.
But the time has come that we

1092
01:21:47.880 --> 01:21:51.119
can look at the end of cancer
and the end of heart disease. But

1093
01:21:51.520 --> 01:21:55.640
Doc, that's what I asked Tom
when he was talking. He had that

1094
01:21:55.680 --> 01:21:57.800
done a couple of years ago.
I don't know if you did it or

1095
01:21:58.439 --> 01:22:01.039
else. Six months. Yes,
when you have it, and let's say

1096
01:22:01.560 --> 01:22:05.960
you do detect some kind of blockage
or possible blockage or whatever you detect,

1097
01:22:06.159 --> 01:22:09.720
what does that mean? I mean, what is the fix? You put

1098
01:22:09.720 --> 01:22:14.319
them on? A statin or the
fix could be different depending on what you

1099
01:22:14.439 --> 01:22:17.119
find. I mean, what is
I would hate for someone to tell me,

1100
01:22:17.479 --> 01:22:20.760
Hey, this test came back negative, but there's not a damn thing

1101
01:22:20.800 --> 01:22:25.359
you can do about it. Okay, That's really never the case. So

1102
01:22:25.960 --> 01:22:30.479
the goal of doing the detection,
the early detection, is to find it

1103
01:22:30.520 --> 01:22:33.479
early when it's easy to treat.
The earlier it is, the earlier you

1104
01:22:33.479 --> 01:22:39.159
can treat it at any stage mark
including up to surgery. And we had

1105
01:22:39.199 --> 01:22:45.279
people come in and they had extensive
and severe disease and we didn't call them

1106
01:22:45.279 --> 01:22:46.600
and say, hey, listen,
we need to make an apotment of talk

1107
01:22:46.640 --> 01:22:49.600
about this. In two weeks,
we sent them right to the hospital and

1108
01:22:49.640 --> 01:22:55.279
they had emergency surgery. So and
that would prevent not just heart disease,

1109
01:22:55.359 --> 01:23:00.840
but stroke stroke heart disease. Yes, absolutely, So you see the key

1110
01:23:00.960 --> 01:23:04.920
in medicine. In American medicine,
it's always been a cute medicine. You

1111
01:23:05.039 --> 01:23:11.000
have a problem and you fix it. And the shift is now going toward

1112
01:23:11.359 --> 01:23:15.960
you look for problems and prevent them
with help insurance companies. It's no,

1113
01:23:16.399 --> 01:23:19.640
and that's what but that's what it
should be. If if there were ever

1114
01:23:19.760 --> 01:23:26.520
investors who wanted to really, really
really come out with a new insurance company,

1115
01:23:26.600 --> 01:23:32.279
they would have preventive care as mandatory. And even though that would be

1116
01:23:32.359 --> 01:23:36.239
spread out, the price would come
down if they have more participants to begin

1117
01:23:36.319 --> 01:23:42.479
with. Then once that happens,
they're total aggregate spending. They wouldn't have

1118
01:23:42.600 --> 01:23:46.640
millions of dollars in cancer and heart. I mean, you know, a

1119
01:23:46.720 --> 01:23:51.680
cancer patient can eat up a million
dollars right, Oh, absolutely easily easily.

1120
01:23:53.079 --> 01:23:57.079
A heart patient can eat up eight
hundred, nine hundred thousand. You

1121
01:23:57.119 --> 01:24:00.600
know, you guys talk about you
both talked to about markers compared to the

1122
01:24:00.640 --> 01:24:05.800
actual sales you find in that blood
test. I'm curious about something, Doc,

1123
01:24:05.960 --> 01:24:11.359
When someone does one of these twenty
three and me's or these genetic tests

1124
01:24:11.600 --> 01:24:14.680
and they come back and you do
the full health part of it as well

1125
01:24:14.720 --> 01:24:17.279
as the ancestry, and they come
back and say, well, you know,

1126
01:24:17.359 --> 01:24:20.520
you have some genes that you might
have Alzheimer's, or you have some

1127
01:24:20.680 --> 01:24:26.640
genes that show up in people.
That's right, they show tendencies. What

1128
01:24:26.680 --> 01:24:30.600
does that mean because you carry a
gene that can convert? Is there something

1129
01:24:30.680 --> 01:24:34.920
you could do at that point to
me? So? Yeah. One of

1130
01:24:35.000 --> 01:24:41.840
the most common genes that is a
predictor is the gene for Alzheimer's. It's

1131
01:24:41.840 --> 01:24:47.520
called the Apoe gene, and people
who have an abnormal variety of the apoygene

1132
01:24:47.680 --> 01:24:53.000
can be as much as three to
six times more likely to develop Alzheimer's than

1133
01:24:53.000 --> 01:24:55.359
if they don't have. What do
you do about it? That's the question.

1134
01:24:55.439 --> 01:24:58.000
Then why do the test and you
can't do anything? Well, there's

1135
01:24:58.239 --> 01:25:02.000
a physician colleague, el Bretison has
written a wonderful book, How to Prevent

1136
01:25:02.039 --> 01:25:06.279
and Reverse Alzheimer's disease. And anybody
that we do this test on we find

1137
01:25:06.279 --> 01:25:12.119
out they have this apoe variant,
will tell them. Listen, go to

1138
01:25:12.159 --> 01:25:15.680
doctor ter Do. I've had a
lot of xt You got diet, the

1139
01:25:15.760 --> 01:25:20.159
low carb diet. He has some
supplements, he recommends stress management, you

1140
01:25:20.199 --> 01:25:24.600
know all the There's a lot of
things you can do to prevent Alzheimer's now.

1141
01:25:24.880 --> 01:25:28.000
And the good news is it looks
like in twenty twenty five there'll be

1142
01:25:28.039 --> 01:25:32.680
an FDA approved drug to prevent Alzheimer's
disease. And people who carry this predisposing

1143
01:25:32.720 --> 01:25:35.399
gene. Oh that is won Craig. You got to take a break and

1144
01:25:35.520 --> 01:25:39.800
Kevin will come right back to He
wants to give props to Rocky Mountain Sewer

1145
01:25:39.840 --> 01:25:43.760
and drain three O three seven one
three eight two five five. Listen,

1146
01:25:44.000 --> 01:25:45.960
stay tuned. We have a lot
more to talk about, including eight eight

1147
01:25:46.000 --> 01:25:48.279
eight heating. I can't believe they're
doing it. If you call today,

1148
01:25:48.319 --> 01:25:53.479
they're going to do a free furnished
inspection. This is crazy. So if

1149
01:25:53.479 --> 01:25:56.600
you're having problems now, they may
not be able to get out there today,

1150
01:25:56.600 --> 01:25:59.680
but you call him free furnace inspection. If this scared the hell out

1151
01:25:59.720 --> 01:26:01.880
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1159
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Hi tom Archino, you're troubleshooter three
oh three seven one three talks seven

1160
01:26:47.319 --> 01:26:51.399
one three eight two five five Kevin, you want to give props to Rocky

1161
01:26:51.439 --> 01:26:56.720
Mountain Sewer and Drain. What happened? Yes, sir, Yeah, I

1162
01:26:56.880 --> 01:27:01.279
called your your show one day here
the in the beginning of February because I

1163
01:27:01.319 --> 01:27:05.960
had a broken water Maine and my
business. Yeah. And of course when

1164
01:27:06.000 --> 01:27:10.239
you have a broken water Maine,
you're looking as quickly as possible to get

1165
01:27:10.239 --> 01:27:14.800
someone to work on it. But
you guys had on your website Rocky Mountain

1166
01:27:14.800 --> 01:27:21.399
Sewer and Drain Oh Jose on the
Sun. They came out and I would

1167
01:27:21.439 --> 01:27:25.680
have liked to see it done quicker, but I understand it with a lot

1168
01:27:25.680 --> 01:27:29.279
of hand digging, and it took
it. It took what time it took.

1169
01:27:29.399 --> 01:27:31.720
But they did an excellent job.
And I bet, I bet the

1170
01:27:31.760 --> 01:27:36.199
price was better than any other price
you got. Well, I didn't get

1171
01:27:36.199 --> 01:27:41.079
any other prices here. Again,
when you've got a broken water Maine,

1172
01:27:41.119 --> 01:27:45.680
you don't have a lot of time
to go shopping around. And there's and

1173
01:27:45.760 --> 01:27:48.880
there's a not a lot of people
that are equipped to do that job,

1174
01:27:50.079 --> 01:27:55.199
you know, so those guys time
I need to. You know, there's

1175
01:27:55.319 --> 01:28:00.279
there's small businesses in big businesses.
What is amazing to me. I love

1176
01:28:00.359 --> 01:28:04.079
our big businesses that are in Denver, like plumb Line and fix it in.

1177
01:28:04.119 --> 01:28:09.359
These guys good, but the overhead
on some of their jobs is pretty

1178
01:28:09.359 --> 01:28:13.880
big. This guy basically does most
of his work in the springs, so

1179
01:28:14.159 --> 01:28:16.920
you know, he doesn't even compete
with our other people. But I'm telling

1180
01:28:16.960 --> 01:28:20.760
you it's a father and son.
They own all their own equipment. They

1181
01:28:20.800 --> 01:28:25.880
can go in and do any kind
of sewer line repair and that's all they

1182
01:28:25.880 --> 01:28:29.720
do. They're sewer lined people.
If you're building a new house and want

1183
01:28:29.840 --> 01:28:32.800
water lines and sewer lines, they'll
come out. They do the excavation,

1184
01:28:33.039 --> 01:28:39.640
they do the lines, they do
everything. They're great guys. Good to

1185
01:28:39.720 --> 01:28:45.239
know, really is you know,
man, we have someone else who does

1186
01:28:45.720 --> 01:28:51.720
really good work too, and that's
Anthony or Tony over at what's his ruter?

1187
01:28:51.880 --> 01:28:55.359
What is the name again? A
master ruter? Right? Oh,

1188
01:28:55.479 --> 01:28:58.760
yeah, Tony. Tony does a
good job. Plumb Line has their own

1189
01:28:58.800 --> 01:29:01.720
excavation. I'm not I'm not discounting
the big guys, and of course fix

1190
01:29:01.800 --> 01:29:05.800
it. They added their own trained
division. They're fine too. But sometimes

1191
01:29:06.079 --> 01:29:11.520
for quick, easy, low cost
jobs, these smaller guys can maneuver better.

1192
01:29:11.560 --> 01:29:14.800
They just can. That's just the
way it is. It was it's

1193
01:29:14.920 --> 01:29:18.119
yeah three oh three seven one three
A two five five. So we were

1194
01:29:18.159 --> 01:29:24.960
talking about screening as opposed to patching
going after things. So the best screening.

1195
01:29:25.520 --> 01:29:27.920
I love this grail test. I'm
going to have that done. That

1196
01:29:28.079 --> 01:29:30.720
that's a cool idea and I know
you've suggested it before. The grail.

1197
01:29:30.039 --> 01:29:36.239
And then there is colonoscopies are great
and blood work. What else? What

1198
01:29:36.720 --> 01:29:41.840
other screening, would you recommend if
people are really want to do it?

1199
01:29:42.199 --> 01:29:45.159
Well, this Karta test that we've
talked about that before is I think an

1200
01:29:45.199 --> 01:29:49.319
absolute that anybody over there each age
of thirty five. Now, yeah,

1201
01:29:49.520 --> 01:29:56.359
that's good. Then what about like
with the general screening, But what time

1202
01:29:56.399 --> 01:30:00.840
you said something, I don't want
to glance over colonoscopy? They have these

1203
01:30:00.920 --> 01:30:04.960
tests now that instead of going in
and doing the what we all know is

1204
01:30:04.960 --> 01:30:10.159
that colonoscopy if you're over fifty or
over forty five, how about these ones

1205
01:30:10.199 --> 01:30:14.520
where you basically go into a bag
and send it off. Are they as

1206
01:30:14.560 --> 01:30:18.479
accurate? They're almost as accurate.
It's called the col of guard And yeah,

1207
01:30:18.880 --> 01:30:23.920
yeah, well, I mean some
people are reversed to doing the colonoscopy

1208
01:30:24.079 --> 01:30:27.000
and it's better to do the col
of guard than do nothing right, and

1209
01:30:27.039 --> 01:30:32.079
it's actually almost as accurate. But
Mark, we do know somebody you know,

1210
01:30:31.760 --> 01:30:33.920
I don't know, what do you
mean? Well, I don't know

1211
01:30:33.920 --> 01:30:36.680
if you know. Oh I did
not know that that's right? Well she

1212
01:30:36.880 --> 01:30:41.279
I know, I just put that
all together in the last two seconds.

1213
01:30:41.520 --> 01:30:44.640
I did not know that she did
col of guard. It came back clean.

1214
01:30:45.239 --> 01:30:46.960
I'm going to have a talk with
Suzanne then, because it's in pain

1215
01:30:47.159 --> 01:30:51.039
doing that. She was in pain
and pressure. She went in and had

1216
01:30:51.039 --> 01:30:58.920
a massive problem and is now fighting
for her life. And he told me

1217
01:30:59.640 --> 01:31:02.279
I did not know about the coli
guard aspect, but I believe it's better

1218
01:31:02.319 --> 01:31:09.239
than nothing. But man, did
that change his mind about that? God,

1219
01:31:09.279 --> 01:31:14.159
it would change my mind. In
fact it did. Okay three three

1220
01:31:14.319 --> 01:31:17.039
seven, one three eight two five
five. So it bummed me out with

1221
01:31:17.079 --> 01:31:21.800
that part. Yeah, well,
why do you do coli guard? No?

1222
01:31:21.880 --> 01:31:25.279
I know you you know did the
Oh no, you did? So

1223
01:31:25.439 --> 01:31:30.159
doc would Doc, You'll love this
one. My first colonoscopy, I'm with

1224
01:31:30.279 --> 01:31:32.479
Kaiser. I've been with Kaiser for
probably longer than I should have been.

1225
01:31:32.520 --> 01:31:36.199
But I go in, I have
it done, and nothing against the doctor,

1226
01:31:36.239 --> 01:31:41.039
but he finds a poll up.
And what I didn't realize about colon

1227
01:31:41.079 --> 01:31:45.600
cancer is how preventive it is.
If you have something that hasn't turned cancerous

1228
01:31:45.079 --> 01:31:47.880
yet, but they know what's going
to and they get rid of it by

1229
01:31:47.920 --> 01:31:51.520
clipping it. I mean, you're
pretty much done. It's it's it's really

1230
01:31:51.560 --> 01:31:57.880
a remarkable thing. But he clipped
it too close, so I end up

1231
01:31:58.359 --> 01:32:01.920
having my second colon. I could
be the very next day in the emergency

1232
01:32:02.000 --> 01:32:08.279
room because I was bleeding. Yeah, they it was their fault. Yeah,

1233
01:32:08.319 --> 01:32:11.720
that's unfortunate. But you know,
there's a good thing about colon cancer

1234
01:32:11.760 --> 01:32:15.640
is that's a slow growing cancer.
And that's why if you do a colonnasby

1235
01:32:15.680 --> 01:32:17.920
and it's negative, they don't find
anything, no polyps, et cetera,

1236
01:32:18.520 --> 01:32:21.760
you don't need to repeat the procedure
for ten years. Is it true?

1237
01:32:21.800 --> 01:32:27.520
Though? If you have polyps and
they take them, they send them out

1238
01:32:27.560 --> 01:32:30.359
to the lab, they're non cancerous. That basically it's done and over.

1239
01:32:30.479 --> 01:32:33.039
I mean, you're good, you
go in for your next one. But

1240
01:32:33.119 --> 01:32:38.199
if they get rid of it before
it's cancer, you're for the most part

1241
01:32:38.359 --> 01:32:44.000
safe, right, Yes, absolutely. And the idea is if they go

1242
01:32:44.119 --> 01:32:47.319
in they find some benign polyps,
you know, if they find one or

1243
01:32:47.319 --> 01:32:50.039
two, they might say, well, instead of waiting ten years, come

1244
01:32:50.079 --> 01:32:55.520
back in five years. But if
they find multiple, three or four more

1245
01:32:55.640 --> 01:32:58.760
polyps, they may then come back
in two or three years. That's what

1246
01:32:58.800 --> 01:33:00.880
they did to do. Well you
said for me three years yep, yeah,

1247
01:33:00.960 --> 01:33:03.600
then you must have had a little
bit more and more complicated Bob.

1248
01:33:03.760 --> 01:33:08.359
But in any event, by following
their advice and doing it on their schedule.

1249
01:33:08.640 --> 01:33:14.800
The chances of developing a colon cancer
that's gonna prove to be untreatable is

1250
01:33:14.960 --> 01:33:17.960
almost zero. You know what,
I'm sorry, Tom, I'm just I

1251
01:33:18.000 --> 01:33:23.279
love this conversation. So it makes
me think of who was the Apple guy,

1252
01:33:23.359 --> 01:33:26.560
Steve Jobs? What did what kind
of cancer did he have? Either

1253
01:33:26.600 --> 01:33:30.720
of all, he had a neuroendocntemer
of the pancreas. Oh, I'm sorry,

1254
01:33:30.960 --> 01:33:33.359
Oh okay. You know what's amazing
to me that he taught me a

1255
01:33:33.439 --> 01:33:36.479
lesson. I used to think,
well, if you got money, you

1256
01:33:36.560 --> 01:33:41.239
know, no matter what you get, you can probably get rid of it,

1257
01:33:41.319 --> 01:33:45.399
which is total bs. Because the
guy had a billion dollars back when

1258
01:33:45.399 --> 01:33:48.800
a billion dollars was a billion dollars
mark, and he couldn't get rid of

1259
01:33:48.800 --> 01:33:54.079
it. It was that it was
not detected in time. Well, what

1260
01:33:54.119 --> 01:33:57.720
I say is it happened in his
case such as for instance, the whole

1261
01:33:57.760 --> 01:34:00.720
reason that the companies called Apple was
because he went for a year eating nothing

1262
01:34:00.760 --> 01:34:04.039
but apples, and that's like a
pure sugar diet. So you know,

1263
01:34:04.600 --> 01:34:09.640
he just because they have a lot
of money doesn't necessarily mean he knew everything

1264
01:34:09.680 --> 01:34:13.399
he needed to know about Elf got
that. Yeah, I didn't know that

1265
01:34:13.479 --> 01:34:15.760
about Apple. I had no idea. We got to take a break three

1266
01:34:15.800 --> 01:34:18.239
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01:34:18.319 --> 01:34:21.239
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1269
01:34:25.039 --> 01:34:29.119
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1270
01:34:29.159 --> 01:34:31.159
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1271
01:34:31.199 --> 01:34:34.880
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01:35:10.840 --> 01:35:17.640
three nine two zero sixteen twenty two
Hi Tom Martino your troubleshooter three all three

1279
01:35:19.119 --> 01:35:24.680
seven one three talk three oh three
seven one three eight two five five.

1280
01:35:24.800 --> 01:35:29.560
Let's uh talk to Mark. He
has a question for doctor Grossman. Mark,

1281
01:35:29.640 --> 01:35:32.920
welcome to the show. What's going
on? All right? I just

1282
01:35:33.279 --> 01:35:40.159
wondered if you guys could talk about
cross state if what's coming up with the

1283
01:35:40.479 --> 01:35:45.279
treatments with prostate cancer? And is
there anything new coming along the lines for

1284
01:35:45.359 --> 01:35:49.880
that? Now? Are you asking
for yourself? My dad at it and

1285
01:35:50.319 --> 01:35:56.359
I'm concerned i'h have it. And
do you get regular PSA checks? I

1286
01:35:56.479 --> 01:36:02.359
haven't in a long time, but
I need to start again. Okay,

1287
01:36:02.560 --> 01:36:06.159
Yeah, has it ever run high? With that history? Why wouldn't you

1288
01:36:06.199 --> 01:36:09.680
be doing it? I'm just curious. Are you just afraid of that?

1289
01:36:12.079 --> 01:36:15.119
No, I'm just super busy and
I don't make a whole lot of money.

1290
01:36:15.279 --> 01:36:19.760
So well, the good news is
the prostate cancer screening test, the

1291
01:36:19.840 --> 01:36:25.479
PSA, it's like in the neighborhood, even if you're paying cash for twenty

1292
01:36:25.520 --> 01:36:29.800
five dollars, so it's not an
expensive test. Oh okay, And with

1293
01:36:29.880 --> 01:36:32.239
the family history, you know,
I think that you should definitely want to

1294
01:36:32.279 --> 01:36:36.880
do that every year, at least
every year. Okay, yeah, all

1295
01:36:36.960 --> 01:36:40.119
right, yeah, yeah, that's
but there are you know, you'd ask

1296
01:36:40.159 --> 01:36:43.640
if there are new treatments. There
was a stream of new treatments that are

1297
01:36:43.680 --> 01:36:50.960
coming on board, involving lasers,
radiation, gamma knife, focused ultrasound,

1298
01:36:51.199 --> 01:36:55.560
so that yeah, there's many many
treatments that are not you know, in

1299
01:36:55.600 --> 01:37:00.079
the old days they did these removal
of the prostate, which often was a

1300
01:37:00.119 --> 01:37:05.720
complicated procedure, but now they have
some very very elegant, precise procedures that

1301
01:37:05.760 --> 01:37:10.840
they can do. So once again, early detection is key here. So

1302
01:37:11.000 --> 01:37:14.439
get your PSA every year. Hey, doc, is there false negatives or

1303
01:37:14.560 --> 01:37:17.720
false positives on PSA tests generally?
Or they're pretty so like every test there

1304
01:37:17.800 --> 01:37:20.399
is, you can have high PSA
and not have a tumor. Yes.

1305
01:37:20.600 --> 01:37:26.479
Yeah, And the good news is
there's now a urine test. Let's say,

1306
01:37:26.520 --> 01:37:28.760
for instance, you go in,
you get your PSA. It's a

1307
01:37:28.760 --> 01:37:31.159
bit on the high side. In
the old days, which is five years

1308
01:37:31.159 --> 01:37:35.000
ago, the urologists say, okay, well let's go in andto a biopsy,

1309
01:37:35.039 --> 01:37:39.520
which is not comfortable and has its
own sets of risks. Well,

1310
01:37:39.520 --> 01:37:45.800
now there's another test called an XO
DX EXO d X and that's a urine

1311
01:37:45.800 --> 01:37:48.039
test, and it will tell you
if it's likely to be something that you

1312
01:37:48.079 --> 01:37:50.760
need to be concerned to get a
biopsy, or if it's likely to be

1313
01:37:50.760 --> 01:37:57.680
benign. Hey, you mentioned that
PSA tests twenty five bucks on your services,

1314
01:37:57.680 --> 01:38:00.720
the concierge doctor services, so I
know for two hundred and forty nine

1315
01:38:00.720 --> 01:38:04.880
bucks people can go in and get
their initial blood work done, have the

1316
01:38:05.000 --> 01:38:10.960
consultation and everything like that. But
if you suggest different things like blood tests,

1317
01:38:11.119 --> 01:38:13.840
what do they do? Do you
do them in office or do you

1318
01:38:13.960 --> 01:38:17.000
have to go somewhere else? That'd
just wonderful more curious about your services.

1319
01:38:17.039 --> 01:38:21.199
That's the wonderful thing. Mark everything
is in house, go ahead, Doc

1320
01:38:21.199 --> 01:38:25.119
Coumcer. Yeah, we do so. For instance, you know, people

1321
01:38:25.159 --> 01:38:30.239
can come and get their their blood
work drawn in house. The croateate IMT

1322
01:38:30.399 --> 01:38:34.840
test we do in house. It
the collection for all of these different tests

1323
01:38:35.319 --> 01:38:39.920
things not in house. Yeah,
and then they give you a beautiful box

1324
01:38:39.960 --> 01:38:45.680
of supplements that he's put together and
then if you need extra or less or

1325
01:38:45.880 --> 01:38:48.720
you know, they customize it.
It's not one of these places where one

1326
01:38:48.760 --> 01:38:53.560
size fits all. Everyone is on
different kinds of supplements based on blood work.

1327
01:38:53.720 --> 01:38:56.159
When people tell me they're on supplements, you know what I say to

1328
01:38:56.159 --> 01:39:00.520
them, how do you know here
on the right ones? You know?

1329
01:39:00.720 --> 01:39:03.479
You don't know? It means you're
taking a multi vitamin every day. Well,

1330
01:39:03.520 --> 01:39:05.840
there's nothing wrong I guess with that. But what I'm saying is,

1331
01:39:05.960 --> 01:39:11.359
in general, there are things you
shouldn't have too much of. Exactly,

1332
01:39:11.600 --> 01:39:15.079
yeah, exactly. So Okay,
Tom, Tom's been going to you forever,

1333
01:39:15.199 --> 01:39:18.000
and I don't know if Tom's agreed
to talk on the air. Yes

1334
01:39:18.039 --> 01:39:21.800
I do, yes, Okay.
So so basically you go in get your

1335
01:39:21.800 --> 01:39:26.600
blood work every three months, and
then Doc you look at it and I

1336
01:39:26.600 --> 01:39:29.680
mean, give me an idea like, oh, your vitamin d's too high.

1337
01:39:29.760 --> 01:39:31.680
So the supplements we're going to tell
you are going to be less vitamin

1338
01:39:31.760 --> 01:39:35.039
D or more or what. Yeah, exactly. So we'll look at his

1339
01:39:35.119 --> 01:39:39.800
cholesterol and say, Okay, your
cholesterols too high. We need to lower

1340
01:39:39.800 --> 01:39:42.079
it a little bit more. Vitamin
T is too low, you need to

1341
01:39:42.079 --> 01:39:44.920
take a little bit more. Your
testosterone is off, we need to do

1342
01:39:45.039 --> 01:39:48.880
so. Or you need zinc or
you need this. But the great news

1343
01:39:48.920 --> 01:39:53.680
with me is we've been level on
what I mean, I've been really we've

1344
01:39:53.800 --> 01:39:59.359
dialed it in, which is really
cool. And then he does preventable maintenance.

1345
01:39:59.439 --> 01:40:02.560
You're basically doing preventable. But then
he does a yearly. He does

1346
01:40:02.640 --> 01:40:08.000
do a yearly though that is more
intense physical and that's good. I mean,

1347
01:40:08.000 --> 01:40:10.560
that's what you want, right,
And then in that kind of thing,

1348
01:40:10.680 --> 01:40:13.920
you know, they check other things. You checked, you checked muscle

1349
01:40:14.760 --> 01:40:18.359
density and where we stand on percentile? Yeah, we have a special scale

1350
01:40:18.479 --> 01:40:25.560
and this scale very accurately will measure
your fat mass, your muscle mass,

1351
01:40:25.880 --> 01:40:29.039
your body water, whether or not
do you have any fat inside your liver

1352
01:40:29.159 --> 01:40:31.319
fat liver that can well, all
of those things. I think that that's

1353
01:40:31.439 --> 01:40:34.840
very important. We do that every
year. And you know, I don't

1354
01:40:34.840 --> 01:40:38.840
mean to brag, but you know, I was like, seriously, he

1355
01:40:38.880 --> 01:40:43.119
told me, I'm like in the
ninety eight percentile for muscle mass, and

1356
01:40:43.159 --> 01:40:45.279
I don't that's for age or is
that for Yeah, it's compared to other

1357
01:40:45.359 --> 01:40:48.680
menuations. Okay, what's what's a
good reading for that? So you mentioned

1358
01:40:48.680 --> 01:40:53.239
three things. You mentioned fat,
muscle, and water. So what is

1359
01:40:53.279 --> 01:40:57.039
a human? What should a human
be made up with? Percentile? What

1360
01:40:57.079 --> 01:41:00.279
would be the ultimate? Yeah?
Well, well I can give a percentage

1361
01:41:00.319 --> 01:41:05.680
for fat and in general, ideally
men should be less than twenty percent fat

1362
01:41:05.880 --> 01:41:10.920
between twelve and twenty and that's hard
to do. Right, Well, you're

1363
01:41:10.960 --> 01:41:14.960
in a minority group because given that
seventy five percent Americans overweight. Yeah,

1364
01:41:15.039 --> 01:41:16.760
you know, if you're in that
range, you're probably in a minority group.

1365
01:41:16.960 --> 01:41:20.680
But there's a big difference between being
twenty two and being thirty two.

1366
01:41:21.279 --> 01:41:24.960
So we look to be in that
range. For women, it's a little

1367
01:41:25.039 --> 01:41:29.720
higher. Women have more fat.
Twenty to twenty six is considered optimal for

1368
01:41:29.760 --> 01:41:31.560
a woman. Uh huh, So
we measure that make sure that people are

1369
01:41:31.560 --> 01:41:34.479
in the red group and if not, then we want to, you know,

1370
01:41:34.640 --> 01:41:38.239
work on getting too optimal weight.
Do I need to do this?

1371
01:41:38.319 --> 01:41:41.479
Break? I'm sorry? Did I
miss it? Okay, we got more

1372
01:41:41.479 --> 01:41:48.760
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01:42:13.439 --> 01:42:26.199
Remax Alliance three all three nine two
zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martino,

1379
01:42:26.600 --> 01:42:30.520
your troubleshooter three oh three seven to
one three talk three oh three seven

1380
01:42:30.600 --> 01:42:35.399
one three eight two five five.
So we've talked about detection, and we've

1381
01:42:35.439 --> 01:42:39.479
also talked about monitoring, you know, us, we're not talking so much

1382
01:42:39.479 --> 01:42:44.800
about fixing, although there are fixing
things you can do, and but but

1383
01:42:44.960 --> 01:42:53.680
detection. I think Grossman wellness concentrates
on early detection of stuff and monitoring and

1384
01:42:54.520 --> 01:42:58.199
measuring. I mean, because really, other than that, what do you

1385
01:42:58.319 --> 01:43:01.479
have? I mean, most primarys
you can go in I think once a

1386
01:43:01.560 --> 01:43:04.319
year under insurance to get a wellness
check. Now, I guess they let

1387
01:43:04.399 --> 01:43:09.439
you do that, but really you
only see them when something is wrong,

1388
01:43:09.760 --> 01:43:13.760
not when you never can tell when
something is trending. But there is something

1389
01:43:13.800 --> 01:43:15.600
else, Dock that I do outside
of your clinic that I think a lot

1390
01:43:15.680 --> 01:43:20.319
of people neglect, and that's a
dermatology check once a year. I think

1391
01:43:20.359 --> 01:43:26.560
that's critical. Oh yeah, Now
if you see something, obviously you can

1392
01:43:26.600 --> 01:43:29.399
tell people get that checked or whatever
when you're looking at your patients. But

1393
01:43:29.800 --> 01:43:31.399
that's something they should do no matter
who they are, where they are,

1394
01:43:31.399 --> 01:43:35.319
no matter what clinic they go to, because most clinics don't do dermatology checks,

1395
01:43:35.399 --> 01:43:40.600
right, most don't, that's true. Yeah, So with a dermatology

1396
01:43:40.680 --> 01:43:44.199
check, that's another thing you can
catch if you I was told by my

1397
01:43:44.279 --> 01:43:47.560
dermatologists, if you go yearly,
very seldom will there be anything untreatable.

1398
01:43:47.720 --> 01:43:55.199
Right, absolutely, But it's amazing
how people just only go when a spot

1399
01:43:55.239 --> 01:43:59.039
shows up or something happens. Mark
do you do? Does Kaiser have that

1400
01:43:59.079 --> 01:44:02.319
as part of their Well I missed
that part? What what what dermatology checking?

1401
01:44:03.079 --> 01:44:09.439
Uh? Well? Interesting? Yes, I mean I don't like I've

1402
01:44:09.560 --> 01:44:14.039
never been to a dermatologist because I
haven't had any strange moles or anything.

1403
01:44:14.079 --> 01:44:17.000
But when I go in for our
yearly physical, they do look for anything

1404
01:44:17.319 --> 01:44:21.399
skin cancer wise, and if they
find anything, they would refer you.

1405
01:44:24.560 --> 01:44:29.960
Okay, well you know what that
is? Uh? That is really important?

1406
01:44:30.239 --> 01:44:32.640
So we covered that. What have
we not covered? Doc? Because

1407
01:44:32.720 --> 01:44:39.720
really that detection and monitoring and measuring
uh dermatology. Uh you're you know?

1408
01:44:39.800 --> 01:44:42.840
And when I say measuring monitoring,
that's that your clinic with the scans and

1409
01:44:42.880 --> 01:44:45.800
with all of that. So with
this cancer check, this Grail test,

1410
01:44:46.119 --> 01:44:49.199
you don't really need those body scans
anymore they used to do. Remember they

1411
01:44:49.279 --> 01:44:53.319
used to do those full body Do
you even need that anymore? Well,

1412
01:44:53.359 --> 01:44:57.920
we do a combination for cancer detection. One thing we do is what we've

1413
01:44:57.920 --> 01:45:01.720
talked about, the Grail test for
fifty kinds of cancer. But also we

1414
01:45:01.960 --> 01:45:06.840
like to do these whole body MRIs. Oh really look at to see what

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we can see there as well,
So we do both. Oh, I

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did not try to be We try
to be very very proactive. Hey,

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Coming is the Troubleshooter Show. No, Tom Martino, Hi, Tom Martino

1428
01:46:19.680 --> 01:46:30.119
here, Welcome to the show.
Okay, have you heard that there is

1429
01:46:30.159 --> 01:46:33.479
a bus stuck? It was going
up to the mountains. Yeah, lady

1430
01:46:34.000 --> 01:46:40.880
lady skiers. Yeah. And and
what happened was they got they got stuck

1431
01:46:41.920 --> 01:46:45.920
and as a result, they haven't
been able to leave. They can't even

1432
01:46:45.960 --> 01:46:51.640
turn around and come back because all
of the roads are closed. And what's

1433
01:46:51.760 --> 01:46:58.960
the first yes you thought of?
Yesterday, afternoon, all night thing you

1434
01:46:59.079 --> 01:47:02.199
thought about? What did I think
about? Yet? When I first saw

1435
01:47:02.239 --> 01:47:08.239
the story, it was like five
thirty this morning on Fox thirty one or

1436
01:47:08.319 --> 01:47:12.319
nine or whatever it was, and
they said they'd been there since yesterday.

1437
01:47:12.640 --> 01:47:15.920
What's the first thing you thought about? Oh my god, what, I

1438
01:47:15.920 --> 01:47:19.039
don't know what I thought? How
the hell are they going to the bathroom?

1439
01:47:19.560 --> 01:47:24.039
Well, guess what, I'm gonna
call one of them who gave me

1440
01:47:24.119 --> 01:47:30.720
permission because she's on there. I
hope. Wait, I'm not. It's

1441
01:47:30.760 --> 01:47:32.399
not coming through, is it?
It's not coming through here? I got

1442
01:47:32.399 --> 01:47:34.279
to make I can hear it in
the background. No, no, no,

1443
01:47:34.319 --> 01:47:36.720
I'm going to make it go through
the board. Hold on, it's

1444
01:47:36.760 --> 01:47:41.199
not Stephanie, is it? No? No, Stephanie's friend. No.

1445
01:47:41.319 --> 01:47:45.279
If Stephanie was stuck up there,
I'd be I'd be digging my way through

1446
01:47:45.319 --> 01:47:50.199
that. So o wait, she's
calling me back. Hold on technical issues.

1447
01:47:50.279 --> 01:47:56.039
All right, let's go. Is
this Brenda. This is Tom Martine.

1448
01:47:56.159 --> 01:48:00.520
We're on the air right now,
as you agreed to Brenda. We

1449
01:48:00.640 --> 01:48:03.920
can't believe what is happening. Are
are you true? How many people are

1450
01:48:03.960 --> 01:48:10.640
on that bus? Well, we
started with sixty and half of the girls

1451
01:48:11.199 --> 01:48:16.159
just got off the bus in Morrison
because we finally got moving after a twenty

1452
01:48:16.199 --> 01:48:19.720
two hour bus ride. No,
wait a minute, so how did this

1453
01:48:19.800 --> 01:48:25.520
happen? You're you're you're on the
bus heading to the mountain or away from

1454
01:48:25.560 --> 01:48:29.439
the mountain. Oh wait, we
skied all day yesterday. Yeah, at

1455
01:48:29.560 --> 01:48:33.880
three point thirty we got on the
bus and started on our way home to

1456
01:48:34.000 --> 01:48:42.880
Denver, and we had a lot
of problems because of the weather. And

1457
01:48:42.920 --> 01:48:45.119
so did he pull over or was
the road closed? The cops tell you

1458
01:48:45.159 --> 01:48:53.560
how did that happen? We stopped
multiple times because after about seven miles,

1459
01:48:53.560 --> 01:48:59.399
as we had just gotten onto veil
paths, there was a collision ahead of

1460
01:48:59.479 --> 01:49:02.840
us, so we were backed up
for miles and sat there for hours.

1461
01:49:03.319 --> 01:49:10.319
When we finally got going again,
we overheated our cars, I mean our

1462
01:49:10.399 --> 01:49:16.600
bus did anyway the transmission, and
then we proceeded. Finally at eleven o'clock

1463
01:49:16.640 --> 01:49:23.800
at night because of the roads and
accidents everywhere along the way, we finally

1464
01:49:23.800 --> 01:49:29.119
made it as far as Idaho Spring, where we switched drivers. A driver

1465
01:49:29.199 --> 01:49:32.119
from Denver came up because our driver
can only drive for so many hours.

1466
01:49:32.800 --> 01:49:38.920
And in the process of turning into
Idaho Spring so we could switch drivers,

1467
01:49:39.359 --> 01:49:43.920
we got stuck again. So it's
been it's been quite a y. Can

1468
01:49:44.000 --> 01:49:46.039
you guys have couldn't they have stopped? It? Isn't there any motels or

1469
01:49:46.159 --> 01:49:49.840
hotels they could have stopped at in
any in the Idaho Springs or whatever.

1470
01:49:53.640 --> 01:50:00.159
They were not letting us get off
at Georgetown because it was overcrowded, and

1471
01:50:00.520 --> 01:50:05.199
when we did get to Idaho Springs, everything we were just determined to keep

1472
01:50:05.239 --> 01:50:10.680
going, and because we had a
new driver and we got the bus working,

1473
01:50:11.319 --> 01:50:15.159
so we proceeded, and we finally
twenty two hours later, are now

1474
01:50:15.399 --> 01:50:21.279
just now pulling into Denver. Oh
my goodness, I know. Did it

1475
01:50:21.359 --> 01:50:29.399
have a restroom on there? Yes? Uh. We were worried about running

1476
01:50:29.439 --> 01:50:32.680
out of toilet paper, but we
survived, and we did run out of

1477
01:50:32.720 --> 01:50:39.319
water and food, and we did
have We had one diabetic on the bus

1478
01:50:39.359 --> 01:50:44.399
and one of my friends Wow,
and somebody who got injured coming down the

1479
01:50:44.439 --> 01:50:50.119
mountain yesterday because there was what they
call thunder lightning snow something like that,

1480
01:50:50.239 --> 01:50:55.920
thunder snow, and everybody had to
evacuate the mountain all at once, so

1481
01:50:56.079 --> 01:51:00.159
there was multiple people getting hit by
other skiers. God, well, it

1482
01:51:00.199 --> 01:51:05.840
was just a fight and interesting ride. Oh my goodness. So we're exactly

1483
01:51:05.920 --> 01:51:10.359
are you right now? You're pulling
in? Yeah, we're pulling into the

1484
01:51:10.399 --> 01:51:16.720
parking lot where we all park our
cars off of Hampton and we will brush

1485
01:51:16.760 --> 01:51:25.079
our cars off. Maybe called maybe
they should call one of our attorneys.

1486
01:51:25.520 --> 01:51:28.560
Yeah, yeah, I don't think. I don't think they're thinking lawsuit,

1487
01:51:28.640 --> 01:51:30.640
right. I think with an act
of nature like this, what can you

1488
01:51:30.840 --> 01:51:33.800
unless the bus wasn't equipped for some
reason. I mean, oh no,

1489
01:51:34.199 --> 01:51:40.359
the bus drivers were great, the
bus you know, it wasn't their responsibility

1490
01:51:40.399 --> 01:51:43.439
to have food and water for us
because it's normally a two hour drive.

1491
01:51:44.319 --> 01:51:47.359
You know, I wonder if people
should have survival packs in their cars.

1492
01:51:47.439 --> 01:51:50.920
I'm serious. I don't have one. I have. I have warm clothes

1493
01:51:50.920 --> 01:51:54.800
and a hat and gloves, but
I don't have snacks or anything like that.

1494
01:51:54.880 --> 01:51:59.279
I figure intermittent fasting wouldn't hurt me
for twenty four hours. But well,

1495
01:51:59.840 --> 01:52:02.000
I don't know. Miss you do, miss water, And I'll tell

1496
01:52:02.000 --> 01:52:06.399
you what else we miss is those
of us who maybe need to take medication.

1497
01:52:06.800 --> 01:52:11.920
Yes, of course we didn't have
our medication. So but we were

1498
01:52:12.039 --> 01:52:15.039
warm because we were in sea clothes
and they tried to keep the heat on

1499
01:52:15.119 --> 01:52:17.960
as much as they could. And
you know what, I prayed. And

1500
01:52:18.560 --> 01:52:24.159
we have a very positive group of
women. They're very vibrant and positive,

1501
01:52:24.520 --> 01:52:27.920
and we were concerned not just about
ourselves, but about everybody else on the

1502
01:52:28.000 --> 01:52:31.439
road as well. I wanted to
ask you about that. I saw the

1503
01:52:31.520 --> 01:52:36.239
story this morning on Fox thirty one, and I'm curious the woman's group.

1504
01:52:36.359 --> 01:52:41.039
It said, you guys go ten
times a year. Is what is it

1505
01:52:41.079 --> 01:52:45.359
all about? How did you guys
meet? What is the group? Well,

1506
01:52:45.399 --> 01:52:51.119
it was word of mouth and we
meet every Wednesday. Henry ski together.

1507
01:52:51.520 --> 01:52:55.199
You know. It's fun to ski
with other people and safer also,

1508
01:52:55.800 --> 01:53:00.000
and that's what it is. We
all love as a Yeah, as the

1509
01:53:00.039 --> 01:53:04.840
group grew, we hired a bus, a professional bus driver. So part

1510
01:53:04.840 --> 01:53:09.399
of the joy is that we don't
have to do the driving. That's very

1511
01:53:09.439 --> 01:53:13.960
cool. So it's got to be
a tradition. Now it is a tradition.

1512
01:53:14.319 --> 01:53:16.239
Actually I've been doing it for twenty
years. Wow. Is this the

1513
01:53:16.279 --> 01:53:21.319
first time in all that time you've
been stuck? Yes? First time ever?

1514
01:53:21.640 --> 01:53:26.760
Wow? I think I think in
twenty sixteen we had a flat tire

1515
01:53:27.119 --> 01:53:31.800
and we were delayed a little bit, but you know we and then during

1516
01:53:32.039 --> 01:53:35.159
during the COVID years, the pandemic
year, what did you do then?

1517
01:53:35.239 --> 01:53:40.079
Did you still go? We did? Okay, we did, we were

1518
01:53:40.279 --> 01:53:45.600
we wore mass you know, we
did what we needed to do. Well,

1519
01:53:45.600 --> 01:53:48.479
thank you Brenda for being on.
We appreciate you taking the time.

1520
01:53:49.239 --> 01:53:53.279
Oh Tom, here they're often the
problem solver. We're going to have you

1521
01:53:53.359 --> 01:53:57.439
said job out for we'll see it. They came anyway, Thanks, so

1522
01:53:57.600 --> 01:54:00.800
thank you bye bye. Oh that's
great. Okay, So that was a

1523
01:54:00.840 --> 01:54:05.520
live interview from a woman, Brenda, And boy, you know that's got

1524
01:54:05.520 --> 01:54:09.760
to be a long twenty four hours
off. Oh god, I couldn't even

1525
01:54:09.840 --> 01:54:13.960
imagine that. What a pain in
the ass. But thank god they had.

1526
01:54:14.039 --> 01:54:15.960
I didn't know those buses had a
restroom. I had no idea they

1527
01:54:15.960 --> 01:54:19.800
had a restroom, you know,
as little it's just like in an airplane,

1528
01:54:19.800 --> 01:54:25.720
probably one of those little little restaurants
of restrooms. Now, being diabetic

1529
01:54:25.800 --> 01:54:30.199
in and of itself can't hurt if
you were, unless you had insulin then

1530
01:54:30.239 --> 01:54:33.720
didn't get to eat. Then your
blood goes low. And of course being

1531
01:54:34.000 --> 01:54:38.479
high would be if you ate and
couldn't get to your insulin. So either

1532
01:54:38.520 --> 01:54:42.119
one it would be high or low. But the low is the quicker.

1533
01:54:43.319 --> 01:54:46.239
Danger is the low. I didn't
know that. So most diabetics, it's

1534
01:54:46.279 --> 01:54:48.920
not having too much sugar, it's
lack of well no, no, too

1535
01:54:49.000 --> 01:54:53.720
much no. They usually if you're
diabetic, you have and you're not treated,

1536
01:54:53.840 --> 01:54:57.239
you have too much sugar all the
time, and then that slowly kills

1537
01:54:57.279 --> 01:55:00.800
you, I mean slowly, your
bins and all of that. If you

1538
01:55:00.960 --> 01:55:04.359
have low blood sugar, it instantly
kills you if it's really low, right,

1539
01:55:04.399 --> 01:55:09.800
don absolutely, yeah, So too
much insulin that you and ject could

1540
01:55:09.920 --> 01:55:15.159
kill you? Or what happens to
people since I know so many diabetics like

1541
01:55:15.159 --> 01:55:20.199
that type one is they take insulin
in anticipation sometimes of eating, or they

1542
01:55:20.239 --> 01:55:25.439
take or they and then they don't
get to eat, or they something happens

1543
01:55:25.479 --> 01:55:30.760
like this, or they they took
too much after they ate, they miscalculated,

1544
01:55:30.359 --> 01:55:34.800
and then they need like juice or
something just to balance it out because

1545
01:55:34.840 --> 01:55:40.560
they went too low. But most
of the the most the biggest danger is

1546
01:55:40.600 --> 01:55:45.439
that over time, high sugar will
will ruin your legs and your arms,

1547
01:55:45.439 --> 01:55:50.000
and your kidneys and your bones and
your everything. So then what does so?

1548
01:55:50.359 --> 01:55:56.880
What does these these weight loss drugs
like a semi glue tage, let's

1549
01:55:56.920 --> 01:56:00.239
talk about those well, hold on. Besides, so, what I here

1550
01:56:00.239 --> 01:56:03.800
on the advertisements is a lot of
them have nothing to do with weight loss.

1551
01:56:03.840 --> 01:56:09.079
They use them if they're diabetic.
Why would someone use semi glue tide

1552
01:56:09.159 --> 01:56:14.359
over insulin? Or you get to
a certain point where semi glue tide simply

1553
01:56:14.399 --> 01:56:16.800
doesn't work and you have to use
insulin. No that's a good question,

1554
01:56:16.840 --> 01:56:21.520
though it's not in place of insulin. Is it usually for a type tour

1555
01:56:21.640 --> 01:56:25.399
or is it type one? Yeah, there's two main types of diabetes,

1556
01:56:25.399 --> 01:56:30.319
type one and type two, and
type one you do need insulin for type

1557
01:56:30.359 --> 01:56:34.359
two. Actually, insulin is usually
kind of the last spa. You don't

1558
01:56:34.359 --> 01:56:36.560
want to use it. You don't
want to use it all. Most type

1559
01:56:36.560 --> 01:56:41.479
twos have too much insulin. Beginning
with so one of the things they found

1560
01:56:41.520 --> 01:56:45.680
in this family of drug it's called
GLP one agonis. They started with lyric

1561
01:56:45.760 --> 01:56:48.800
glue tide, which was an injection
had to do every day. Then they

1562
01:56:49.000 --> 01:56:53.000
found out people would lose four or
five pounds, and then they came up

1563
01:56:53.039 --> 01:56:57.039
with semi glue tide, and with
semi glute type people were losing thirty forty

1564
01:56:57.079 --> 01:57:00.119
fifty pounds in addition of the bloodsher
control with that iabetics, and that's why

1565
01:57:00.119 --> 01:57:03.359
it's become such a popular weight loss
drugle Oh wait, wait, wait,

1566
01:57:03.479 --> 01:57:09.840
so the reason semi glue tide lowers
the diabetes or the A one C or

1567
01:57:09.880 --> 01:57:14.359
the blood sugar level whatever is simply
because it makes you lose weight, or

1568
01:57:14.439 --> 01:57:16.840
does it do it within itself?
Does that make sense. Yeah. No,

1569
01:57:16.920 --> 01:57:21.319
it helps the sugar to come from
the bloodstream into the cells, so

1570
01:57:21.399 --> 01:57:28.840
it lowers your blood share, which
is the goal of diabetes therapy. But

1571
01:57:28.920 --> 01:57:34.640
it simultaneously seems to have effect on
your gastrointestinal tract, so you prop weight.

1572
01:57:35.359 --> 01:57:39.800
Yeah, you don't eat as much, you get full more easily,

1573
01:57:40.000 --> 01:57:43.680
and you lose your appetite. And
then when you lose the weight, your

1574
01:57:43.680 --> 01:57:47.479
diabetes actually gets more under control.
Yeah. Is so it really is a

1575
01:57:47.479 --> 01:57:53.279
double edged sword. A semi gluetide
series of drugs, including the new one,

1576
01:57:53.319 --> 01:57:59.560
Maderno or truzepetide, has just revolutionized
weight loss medicine, and they're now

1577
01:57:59.600 --> 01:58:02.439
saying that these drugs are just as
good as the stomach bypass surgery. Is

1578
01:58:03.039 --> 01:58:06.760
Hey, when we come back from
breakdown, can you talk a little more

1579
01:58:06.800 --> 01:58:12.520
about the Alzheimer's drug you were talking
about coming out in a year or two.

1580
01:58:13.239 --> 01:58:16.159
Sure, I'd be happy to That
sounds amazing because over the years I

1581
01:58:16.199 --> 01:58:21.039
have heard everything. My grandmother died
at ninety four. Her last three years

1582
01:58:21.079 --> 01:58:26.800
with all Teimer's was absolutely horrific.
I mean, she was a vegetable basically,

1583
01:58:27.239 --> 01:58:32.680
and I've heard everything from smoking cigarettes
and drinking and anything else in the

1584
01:58:32.720 --> 01:58:38.840
world helps not get Alheimer's. But
it sounds like something might finally be there.

1585
01:58:40.479 --> 01:58:46.239
It absolutely is, and it's not
that far off. So let's talk

1586
01:58:46.279 --> 01:58:49.920
about hormones in general. We talked
about blood work, we talked about screening,

1587
01:58:50.000 --> 01:58:56.359
monitoring, measuring, and treating.
But hormones, hormone where do they

1588
01:58:56.399 --> 01:59:02.840
play in and is it for everyone? And I contend everyone will eventually need

1589
01:59:03.079 --> 01:59:09.319
hormone therapy of some kind because we
run out well, I think that I'm

1590
01:59:09.560 --> 01:59:15.039
since I've been testing hormone levels on
people, I've been very surprised to find

1591
01:59:15.119 --> 01:59:17.960
that it's not just a problem for
sixty year olds and seven year olds,

1592
01:59:18.199 --> 01:59:23.640
but in fact, we have men
and women in their twenties and thirties and

1593
01:59:23.720 --> 01:59:28.960
their hormone levels are low. And
one of the ways that we stay feeling

1594
01:59:29.039 --> 01:59:33.079
youthful is having youthful levels of hormones. So if we do testing on a

1595
01:59:33.119 --> 01:59:38.199
patient we find that they have low
levels of hormones and we're able to balance

1596
01:59:38.239 --> 01:59:41.920
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1597
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02:01:12.800 --> 02:01:15.079
and that's going to be at least
half, if not a third or

1615
02:01:15.119 --> 02:01:20.159
a quarter of what you'll find with
plumbers for hull house water systems. Hey,

1616
02:01:20.640 --> 02:01:25.199
let's talk what's and by the way, that's waterpros dot net three oh

1617
02:01:25.239 --> 02:01:29.439
three eight six two five five five
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1618
02:01:29.520 --> 02:01:30.840
questions, complaints, give us a
call. We have time left.

1619
02:01:31.039 --> 02:01:36.880
And then we have doctor Grossman with
us, Terry Grossman from Grossman Wellness.

1620
02:01:38.359 --> 02:01:43.079
It's that's what it is. It's
a wellness clinic. And so we talked

1621
02:01:43.079 --> 02:01:46.880
about how we how when you go
there for a flat monthly fee depending on

1622
02:01:46.920 --> 02:01:51.000
the program, you get your supplements, a lot of your prescriptions, you

1623
02:01:51.119 --> 02:01:59.039
get your blood work and your consultations
and constant monitoring on a three month interval,

1624
02:01:59.079 --> 02:02:00.840
and then of course you can to
call or text them at any time.

1625
02:02:01.479 --> 02:02:08.520
And then you also get of course
the measuring, monitoring and all of

1626
02:02:08.560 --> 02:02:12.239
the quantitative stuff. Hormones is something
we didn't talk about. We talked about

1627
02:02:12.239 --> 02:02:16.760
blood, We talked about cancer screening
and testing, which you know that's an

1628
02:02:16.760 --> 02:02:21.720
extra test, but it's a wonderful
test and it can find cancer at its

1629
02:02:21.880 --> 02:02:27.119
very early stages and been responsible for
saving a lot of lives, you know,

1630
02:02:27.359 --> 02:02:30.039
doctor grossmand. On a side note
with that, I'm surprised more and

1631
02:02:30.039 --> 02:02:32.159
more people don't do it. It's
just because it's expensive, right, I

1632
02:02:32.199 --> 02:02:35.039
think that's the reason. I mean, and that of course it is expensive.

1633
02:02:35.079 --> 02:02:39.920
But wow, if you have cancer
in your family, it was so

1634
02:02:40.000 --> 02:02:43.199
this will detect even a breast cancer. Yes, there will. Yeah,

1635
02:02:43.239 --> 02:02:48.319
that's one of the fiftieth tests for
Okay. So on the hormone thing.

1636
02:02:49.399 --> 02:02:55.720
Hormones we run out right or were
they're depleted? Over time they diminished,

1637
02:02:55.760 --> 02:03:00.199
yes, over to our ability to
make them diminishes, or we have one

1638
02:03:00.199 --> 02:03:06.000
supply that diminishes well. Actually,
those hormones like estrogen, progesterone, testosterone,

1639
02:03:06.279 --> 02:03:12.199
they are made out of cholesterol.
So you start with the cholesterol molecule

1640
02:03:12.199 --> 02:03:15.880
and you make some modifications and then
it turns in these hormones. And when

1641
02:03:15.880 --> 02:03:17.439
we're young, we tend to do
it very well. We make a lot

1642
02:03:17.479 --> 02:03:20.920
of hormones, and as we get
older, we make relatively less and yet

1643
02:03:21.039 --> 02:03:25.720
less. Well, it's hard to
stimulate the body to change that, so

1644
02:03:25.760 --> 02:03:30.079
we just use replacement. In other
words, we take those hormones and is

1645
02:03:30.119 --> 02:03:33.479
that what they call bioidentical. Yeah, bioidentical means we use the hormones that

1646
02:03:33.560 --> 02:03:38.880
are biologically identical to what you have
when you're younger. They're not drugs.

1647
02:03:38.920 --> 02:03:44.119
And the main hormones you do you
do main hormones are a testosterone, estrogen,

1648
02:03:44.319 --> 02:03:45.800
progesterone, those sins, those are
You know, when we think of

1649
02:03:45.800 --> 02:03:49.079
hormones, we think of sex hormones, and those are the three main sex

1650
02:03:49.119 --> 02:03:55.000
hormones. But we also have thyroid
hormones, we have slate hormones like melatonin.

1651
02:03:55.119 --> 02:03:58.479
So there's all infuluins, a hormone
of blood triger But when we talk

1652
02:03:58.520 --> 02:04:04.359
about hormone replace therapy, generally people
think about testosterone, estrogen, and progesterone.

1653
02:04:04.479 --> 02:04:09.840
Now when they do that, what
is the controversy. You don't know

1654
02:04:09.840 --> 02:04:14.159
how many people I've heard say,
Tom, you're doing testosterone. That's bad

1655
02:04:14.239 --> 02:04:17.119
for your heart. Where do they
get that from. There was actually a

1656
02:04:17.199 --> 02:04:21.199
study of VA study that was done
a few years ago that came up with

1657
02:04:21.239 --> 02:04:27.039
the conclusion that men who took testosterone
had a hire and sences a heart disease.

1658
02:04:27.399 --> 02:04:30.520
This has since been refuted by multiple
other studies and you know, so

1659
02:04:30.640 --> 02:04:34.239
much misinformation. In fact, the
other study shows that it's a guard,

1660
02:04:34.720 --> 02:04:39.000
it's a stake of guard exactly,
that it prevents our disease. And it

1661
02:04:39.039 --> 02:04:42.880
was the same thing with prostate cancer
years ago, ten fifteen years ago.

1662
02:04:43.279 --> 02:04:45.479
Oh my goodness, you're taking testosterone. You're going to get prostate cancer.

1663
02:04:45.800 --> 02:04:53.600
Now more urologists than not will urge
men that have prostate cancer in many cases

1664
02:04:53.880 --> 02:04:59.079
to take testosterone to help prevent it
from recurring. So okay. The next

1665
02:04:59.079 --> 02:05:05.680
one was about estrogen that is very
controversial. I can't tell you how many

1666
02:05:05.680 --> 02:05:11.439
women said it's going to cause cancer. Once again, there was a study

1667
02:05:11.439 --> 02:05:15.640
and this study was sponsored by the
drug company that made Premarin. Back in

1668
02:05:15.720 --> 02:05:23.279
what's premarin was a type of estrogen
called conjugated equine estrogen. It came from

1669
02:05:23.560 --> 02:05:28.840
course pregnant horse urine and they isolated
this compound. They called it Primar,

1670
02:05:28.920 --> 02:05:32.600
and it was a prescription drug and
the drug company wanted to prove how healthy

1671
02:05:32.640 --> 02:05:35.399
it was for women to take this. Well, the study blew up in

1672
02:05:35.399 --> 02:05:41.039
their faces and they found out that
it didn't. It actually increased the risk

1673
02:05:41.079 --> 02:05:44.640
of blood clots, breast cancer,
and a number of other issues, and

1674
02:05:44.920 --> 02:05:50.000
as a result, doctors all over
the country quit prescribing what was then the

1675
02:05:50.119 --> 02:05:54.680
main estrogen was was premarin. Well, they threw the baby out with the

1676
02:05:54.680 --> 02:06:01.000
bath water. There was a subgroup
of physicians nutritional functional medicine that continue to

1677
02:06:01.840 --> 02:06:09.239
prescribed bioidentical estrogen. Bioidentical estrogen has
not been shown to have those negative side

1678
02:06:09.239 --> 02:06:14.079
effects. I mean, is it
one hundred percent perfectly safe. No.

1679
02:06:14.640 --> 02:06:17.039
In certain women, like with a
history of breast cancer, history of blood

1680
02:06:17.039 --> 02:06:21.920
clots, they should stay away from
estrogen. But for most women, estrogen

1681
02:06:23.000 --> 02:06:29.279
replacement therapy progesterine replacement therapy, if
monitored correctly with PAF smears and mammograms,

1682
02:06:29.319 --> 02:06:31.760
et cetera, can be very very
safe. So the ones that should stay

1683
02:06:31.800 --> 02:06:38.159
away are which ones specifically well with
testosterone. No. No. With with

1684
02:06:38.319 --> 02:06:43.960
estrogen itself, I would say history
of endometrial cancer, history of breast cancer,

1685
02:06:44.039 --> 02:06:47.359
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Alliance three all three nine two zero
sixteen twenty two. Hi, I'm Tom

1692
02:07:20.119 --> 02:07:25.000
Martine, your troubleshooter Thraill three seven
on three talks seven one three eighty five

1693
02:07:25.039 --> 02:07:29.119
to five. Now, we got
a lot of questions for the doctor,

1694
02:07:29.119 --> 02:07:34.159
but Samantha First has a follow up
twenty fourteen Cheep Wrangler an issue with the

1695
02:07:34.199 --> 02:07:40.760
warranty. Samantha, I'm trying to
find your original call here about your about

1696
02:07:40.800 --> 02:07:46.399
your cars, tell me about it. I'm here, I don't see you.

1697
02:07:46.720 --> 02:07:48.880
I don't yeah, yeah, I
don't see us. Let's say I'm

1698
02:07:48.920 --> 02:07:56.159
trying to find your call. Yeah, just refresh me here and go ahead.

1699
02:07:56.159 --> 02:08:01.680
Samithy, it was the twenty fourteen
that you bought an and forty after

1700
02:08:01.720 --> 02:08:05.840
forty days the transmission went out right. But here I think the issue was

1701
02:08:07.760 --> 02:08:13.880
you had a warranty right yes,
and it was one hundred and twenty nine

1702
02:08:13.920 --> 02:08:20.520
thousand miles on the car, right
yes? Okay, So I forget I

1703
02:08:20.520 --> 02:08:24.840
don't have notes here on we left
this it said that I told you to

1704
02:08:24.920 --> 02:08:26.920
do something here. I'm trying to
find my notes. Your mom bought a

1705
02:08:28.000 --> 02:08:31.560
used twenty fourteen g brang. Okay, so I did the warranty cover it

1706
02:08:31.680 --> 02:08:37.640
or not? So that's that's why
I'm calling. The warranty is only covering

1707
02:08:37.800 --> 02:08:48.399
thirty eight hundred? Okay? Now
why now the warranty is covering forty forty

1708
02:08:50.239 --> 02:08:56.359
thirty eight hundred. Let's say,
so it's thirty eight sixty two? Why

1709
02:08:56.000 --> 02:09:01.159
why how'd they come up with that
figure? Okay? So it's three different

1710
02:09:01.279 --> 02:09:07.119
charges. It's the transmission, the
gasket, and the differential. I did

1711
02:09:07.159 --> 02:09:11.880
speak with the body shop and they
gave them this amount, and they said,

1712
02:09:11.920 --> 02:09:16.199
okay, we're only going to cover
the thirty eight sixty two. But

1713
02:09:16.239 --> 02:09:20.760
how much was the total bill?
Samantha? When does the total bill?

1714
02:09:20.800 --> 02:09:26.479
Samma? How much is the total
bill for four thousand, four hundred and

1715
02:09:26.479 --> 02:09:31.279
fifty Okay? So why have they
chosen not to pay that six hundred?

1716
02:09:31.359 --> 02:09:35.720
What? Why aren't they paying that? That's what we're I just spoke with

1717
02:09:35.760 --> 02:09:39.239
them and they said, call the
dealership or the body shop and asked them

1718
02:09:39.239 --> 02:09:43.920
what's that extra. I called the
body shop. They said it's not extra.

1719
02:09:43.000 --> 02:09:48.640
We told them this amount and they
decided to give us this different am

1720
02:09:48.880 --> 02:09:54.159
Okay, so they're Samantha. They're
saying the body shop. Why did it

1721
02:09:54.239 --> 02:10:01.479
go to a body shop for a
transmission because of the warranty. They told

1722
02:10:01.560 --> 02:10:03.800
us we can take it to any
body shop. So that's where we took

1723
02:10:03.840 --> 02:10:09.359
it to the Larry Miller cheap.
Is this where the drive shaft broke or

1724
02:10:09.359 --> 02:10:15.880
something? No, no, okay, I got the wrong one. I

1725
02:10:16.000 --> 02:10:20.399
just wondered why a body shop is
fixing a transmission. I'm sure they're not.

1726
02:10:20.560 --> 02:10:28.119
They probably sent it out right,
the warranty sending them the transmission.

1727
02:10:28.000 --> 02:10:35.399
Okay. So here's the thing.
Whatever the warranty covers, it covers.

1728
02:10:35.520 --> 02:10:41.119
Whatever it doesn't, it doesn't.
What we need to figure out is why

1729
02:10:41.399 --> 02:10:45.840
they're not paying the whole bill.
The body or the shop says, they

1730
02:10:46.039 --> 02:10:52.520
told the warranty company how much it
was going to be right right, and

1731
02:10:52.600 --> 02:10:58.800
the warranty company approved it, but
they're not paying it. Okay. Do

1732
02:10:58.880 --> 02:11:03.279
you have a deduct that you have
to pay? Yes? Just through two

1733
02:11:03.439 --> 02:11:07.159
fifty is so deductible? Is that? So? Is the thirty eight did.

1734
02:11:07.399 --> 02:11:11.800
And if you put the two fifty, does that mean that the warranty

1735
02:11:11.880 --> 02:11:16.800
is only shortening you four hundred and
something or three hundred and something. It's

1736
02:11:16.960 --> 02:11:22.319
it's muss. Here's what I need. I need to know this. You're

1737
02:11:22.359 --> 02:11:28.479
two fifty deductible. Okay, so
you're you're paying thirty, your company's paying

1738
02:11:28.520 --> 02:11:33.319
thirty eight hundred and sixty two dollars, and then you're covering two fifty.

1739
02:11:33.399 --> 02:11:37.159
Is that right correct? Okay,
so the balance to is going to be

1740
02:11:37.199 --> 02:11:41.600
somewhere in the neighborhood of four hundred
of three hundred and something dollars, right

1741
02:11:43.880 --> 02:11:48.439
right? Okay, that's what is
in question. We have to figure out

1742
02:11:48.479 --> 02:11:52.760
what it is. So I'm going
to have somebody call up. Can we

1743
02:11:52.800 --> 02:11:58.399
have da call over there? I
heard you put them in time out.

1744
02:11:58.439 --> 02:12:01.640
I don't know what that means,
Mark, but yeah, of course he

1745
02:12:01.720 --> 02:12:05.199
can call over there. Okay,
I want I'm gonna have our deputy call

1746
02:12:05.239 --> 02:12:11.359
over. We just have to figure
out what the bill is and what is

1747
02:12:11.399 --> 02:12:16.319
not covered. Apparently the warranty company
is looking at it saying we're not covering

1748
02:12:16.359 --> 02:12:20.319
this and I don't know why.
Okay, Okay, did they tell you

1749
02:12:20.399 --> 02:12:24.960
why? What did they say.
So, They said, call them and

1750
02:12:26.119 --> 02:12:28.359
us, what's this extra? And
I said, hey, they gave me

1751
02:12:28.399 --> 02:12:31.039
the prices. I broke it down
for him. He said, oh,

1752
02:12:31.199 --> 02:12:35.840
well, we don't understand why.
Okay, do you have the invoice?

1753
02:12:37.279 --> 02:12:41.960
Do you have the invoice in an
invoice? Some much? No, they

1754
02:12:41.960 --> 02:12:45.960
haven't even started because they got to
give you. They have to give you

1755
02:12:46.000 --> 02:12:50.359
an Oh, they haven't started the
work yet, not yet, because okay,

1756
02:12:50.359 --> 02:12:52.000
good, then we're gonna call.
Okay, that's why you don't have

1757
02:12:52.000 --> 02:12:56.960
an invoice. Hold on, we
need a breakdown of the charges. Give

1758
02:12:56.000 --> 02:13:00.920
this to Chopper and let's see what
he can do with it. Samantha,

1759
02:13:00.960 --> 02:13:05.439
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02:13:28.640 --> 02:13:33.319
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Alliance three all three nine two zero sixteen

1766
02:13:33.399 --> 02:13:48.239
twenty two time Tom Marchino three oh
three seven one three talk seven one three

1767
02:13:48.359 --> 02:13:54.920
eight two five five. Okay,
let's finish up with doctor Well Grossman.

1768
02:13:56.159 --> 02:14:01.239
So we were talking about other things, hormones we went into. Now I

1769
02:14:01.279 --> 02:14:07.359
have some text questions. I want
to get to delivery of testosterone and all

1770
02:14:07.399 --> 02:14:13.640
of that. So shots versus pellets, Yeah, those are the most common

1771
02:14:13.680 --> 02:14:20.920
ways. Typically, oral testosterone doesn't
work well. Okay, the creams can

1772
02:14:20.000 --> 02:14:26.399
sometimes work, but really the best
delivery method for testosterone is either an injection

1773
02:14:26.960 --> 02:14:30.439
and people can do them at home. Typically women do them once a week,

1774
02:14:30.880 --> 02:14:33.960
men do them twice a week,
or pellets. Women prefer the pellets

1775
02:14:33.960 --> 02:14:39.720
a lot, because honestly, a
pellet of testosterone for women is a glorified

1776
02:14:39.880 --> 02:14:43.479
grain of rice. It's tiny,
it takes two minutes to insert, no

1777
02:14:43.680 --> 02:14:48.279
scar, no stitches or anything like
that. Men it's a little bit more

1778
02:14:48.319 --> 02:14:52.600
involved, but some men prefer,
particularly if they travel a lot. You're

1779
02:14:52.640 --> 02:14:56.319
climb pilots and things along those lines. But either of those are perfect and

1780
02:14:56.159 --> 02:15:00.720
people feel good with either method.
Okay, Now, as far as fruit,

1781
02:15:01.479 --> 02:15:03.000
they want to know what fruits are
good? What fruits are better?

1782
02:15:03.079 --> 02:15:07.960
I think the you want the higher
fiber and lower sugar fruits, right,

1783
02:15:07.279 --> 02:15:13.199
yeah, the higher fiber, lower
glycemic fruits, and the best ones on

1784
02:15:13.239 --> 02:15:18.319
that scale are typically melons and berries
berries, So like blueberrimelon, watermelon doesn't

1785
02:15:18.319 --> 02:15:22.199
he okay, but candle oaps and
honeydew things like that. And okay,

1786
02:15:22.239 --> 02:15:26.319
so strawberries, blueberries, strawberries,
blueberries, raspberries, Yeah, they're great.

1787
02:15:28.680 --> 02:15:33.479
Okay, Okay, what about let's
see they they want to Okay,

1788
02:15:33.680 --> 02:15:39.520
somebody wants to know about how do
you how do you measure health over all?

1789
02:15:39.680 --> 02:15:45.880
Though? I mean is it are
you concentrating just on the cancer in

1790
02:15:45.920 --> 02:15:52.399
the heart or can you improve total
health? Well, you actually improve total

1791
02:15:52.439 --> 02:16:01.279
health, you can. And what
we say the phrase is you're only as

1792
02:16:01.399 --> 02:16:05.159
healthy as your least healthy part.
Okay. I have to go through and

1793
02:16:05.199 --> 02:16:11.279
analyze everything. I mean, how
how healthy are you if you've got an

1794
02:16:11.319 --> 02:16:13.760
ankle that you can't walk on everything
else worked you great? Right? And

1795
02:16:13.840 --> 02:16:18.319
how healthy are you if you can't
breathe because you got untreated ASBA. So

1796
02:16:18.640 --> 02:16:24.039
we have to evaluate everything and that
involves one test that involves brain tests that

1797
02:16:24.119 --> 02:16:26.199
involves blood tests, hormone tests,
et cetera. Okay, we have a

1798
02:16:26.279 --> 02:16:31.600
question here about a rectile dysfunction.
Do you hand like when people are in

1799
02:16:31.640 --> 02:16:35.479
your program, what do you not
handle? I guess that's I guess I

1800
02:16:35.719 --> 02:16:39.360
could tell you what you don't handle. I don't think you handle. You

1801
02:16:39.360 --> 02:16:41.680
refer like back pain and pain,
right, you don't handle back pain?

1802
02:16:41.760 --> 02:16:46.280
Right? Right? Okay, you
know those things we can do and right

1803
02:16:46.360 --> 02:16:48.360
right, I don't think I can
what We send them out and you help

1804
02:16:48.440 --> 02:16:54.120
me with exercise recommendations and supplements and
that stuff I'm talking about. You know,

1805
02:16:54.200 --> 02:16:56.520
if you need a chiropractor, I
mean, you go to a chiropractor

1806
02:16:56.520 --> 02:16:58.879
if you want. If you need
surgery, you need surgery. But what

1807
02:17:00.120 --> 02:17:07.280
about like as far as at the
clinic you don't handle? What would you

1808
02:17:07.360 --> 02:17:11.120
say you don't handle? If somebody
has the flu and they're part of your

1809
02:17:11.159 --> 02:17:16.040
program, can they text you?
Yes? Absolutely So as a concierge program,

1810
02:17:16.159 --> 02:17:20.520
we're available to people for whatever they
need. So if people have the

1811
02:17:20.559 --> 02:17:24.159
flu, even though they're on a
hormone program, we're happy to take care

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of that issue for them. Okay, So it's it's a full service clinic,

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but not primary care technically not technically, we asked that people have their

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own primary care doctors that their insurance
will pay for if they need it,

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right, but our goal and prevent
a medicine is they don't need that.

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Okay, Well, anyway, we're
out of time. Grossman Wellnes's two hundred

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and forty nine bucks for the introduction. That's with blood work, consultation and

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everything you need to get a snapshot
of where you stand and then they make

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recommendations. That's three oh three two
three three forty two forty seven. What

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anyway, we're not