And y'all ripped. Ugh, you need advice, so you don't help,
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Man Dix. He is the Troubleshooter Show. No Tom Martine, Hey,
welcome to the show. I'm here to help you solve your problems, answer
your questions, take your complaints, make your life a little easier. On
Tap today I got Grossman wellness doctor. Terry Grossman a friend and he is
also my doctor, and he will be on. So he does have permission
to talk about, uh, the fact that I'm his doctor, because all
that hippocrap, you know. Anyway, So we'll be talking to him about
health and wellness in a way you may not have heard before. And then
we'll talk to anybody who calls with problems, question complaints. I also want
to talk about the TikTok band, because I really delved into that and I
have some serious questions about it and Pie Pie. As soon as I said
that, people are reaching for the knife and fork. The history of Pie
Pi. I have no idea why we have Pie Day and why it's important,
but we do, and Pie just went out looking it up. What's
pie real quick. What is it? What's the ratio? What is it?
Three point well? Do you remember three point one? Four? Right?
Today's and it goes on and it goes on infinitely and never repeats and
times. What's amazing date? What's that? It is? Today's date?
Oh, that's why it's oh day. What an idiot I am. I'm
wondering why they picked it as pie Day. I would never use those words.
Oh my god, So you made it in, Shannon, and I
hear Kaschina back there. She made it in? Mark is a big woopbag
you. Oh you're there. I was going to talk about you. You
didn't make it in though, did you? How many? You can't make
it out of my driveway? Are you nuts? What snow? He's out
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Without blinking? Okay, well, you know, well everyone knows what
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Let me go to the phones and then we'll talk to doctor Grossman and
his deputy doc didn't make it in Diddy Dinny as well. He's remote as
well because he's an old poker buddy of doctor Grossman here. That's a I
guess doctor's like to gamble and play golf. Anyway, Danny, what's going
on? Danny? Oh? Yes, sir, Sorry, what's happening?
Well? First off, I just wanted to say I have listened to your
show for quite a long time. So how old are you, Danny?
How old? Thirty five? So it would have preceded your your birth and
and did you get introduced to it by your dad or your uncle or grandfather
or something. Yeah, I remember my parents and my grandparents listening to you.
That's how it works. Welcome aboard. What's going on? I just
had a question about I received a debt collection letter from a collection agency and
I filed a dispute with them. I know what is the debt for?
Is it something you recognize? Yes, it's it's a cell phone. It's
a leftover amount for a previous cell phone company I was with that I was.
I went in on the contract with my brother. How old was I
debt? Six months? Okay, because six years or longer, they can't
file for a judgment, so it really doesn't have any legs. So anyway,
do you want to settle this debt? Is that what you're calling about.
Well, I wanted to dispute the debt because kind of things kind of
went south between my brother and myself. Well, what do you want to
dispute if you were on the If you're on the contract, then you had
a problem with your brother not coming through. You can't dispute the debt with
the collector. The creditor doesn't care. So was it you and your brother
on this bill? Correct? We were both on the bill, And what
ended up happening was I had removed myself from the account, and then he
went after, how did you remove yourself? We both got on the phone
and talked to the cell phoned company and I had to give authorization to split
from the account, that he would take over the control of the account.
He didn't want to change carriers. Did you get any kind of confirmation in
writing or anything? No, no, I did not. So right now
they're simply going to say it's a joint account. They're going to show the
original contract. What would you have to prove you weren't on it. I
don't think I have anything. How much are they trying to get from?
It's only it's four hundred and seventy dollars. Where's your deadbeat brother? That's
that's that's an entirely different question. I don't know. Oh wow, so
you were once on the account. You claim you were taking off the account,
but you have nothing to show it. I have bad news for you,
Danny, seriously. I mean, they don't have to take you off.
I mean, anyone can say that any kind of collection in the world.
I was taken off that okay. I mean that's the bottom line,
unless unless you can tell me, you know, here's what I have a
confirmation number, or I don't know. I mean, if they don't acknowledge
it. How how long ago were you taking off the account? Probably about
eight months before that, so it's been less than a year. Okay,
Well that's good. That's good. Will they at least go back and check
phone records? Do you have a eight Oh yeah, I'm sure that that
could be Uh, that could be done. My my question was more along
the lines of I filed a dispute with the credit agency and they just instead
of responding to it, they just sold my debt to somebody else. You
mean, the cell phone company sold your debt. Well, if the cell
phone company sold to a collection agency, and then I disputed that, I
sent them certified mail, disputed it, and instead of responding to me,
that credit agency I'm assuming sold it to a different credit AKA because I can
use that the same collection for a different company. They can do that.
They don't have to. They don't have to respond if you dispute it.
No, no, man, the credit reporting agency does not the creditor.
A creditor should respond, but they don't have to. They can just say
you the money, or they can sell the debt. You don't have any
special rights for them to respond. I wish you did, because it would
keep people out of court, but I think you would lose it anyway.
I don't know on what basis your what I would say if you're going to
dispute it with the new people, since simply say it was your brother's account,
not yours, make them prove it. I'll bet you they don't have
the original contract. I mean, you can try to play your bluff that
way. That would be the best way to do it. Already, I'm
getting a text. By the way, you can always text the show five
seven seven three nine. Already I'm getting a text. When they heard doctor
Grossman on Grossman wellness. I think it's called I call it concierge medicine.
I mean, not me, but that's what everyone calls certain kinds of medicine.
Is that what you call your medicine? Concierge medicine, doctor Grossman?
Is that basically it? Well, contenter's medicine. A lot of people are
becoming disenchanted with having to, you know, wait long periods of time to
see their doctors. Yeah, and they want a more personalized relation on doctors
are under the on to see many patients, yeah, per day, et
cetera. So they've turned to this concierge model where people pay a certain amount
of money every month and then they have greater access to doctors. And it's
typically not an insurance based model. Now, but you've been doing it way
longer than I heard about it. And the concierge has become popular the last
five years. But you've been doing this way longer than that. Oh yeah,
we've been doing it for twenty five years. So what made you go
into that model? I became I was, you know, I'm a regular
medical doctor, right, but I became a little bit disenchanted with conventional therapies
and more interested in more alternative, holistic, complimentary therapy and longevity stuff and
longevity stuff. I was getting older myself, right, and so as I
moved into this model, I found that it really didn't fit with an insurance
based practice. So I became because it's a wellness practice. It's not come
to me when you're sick. It's come to me regularly and you won't get
sick or we try it on me exactly. That's what our model is.
And so people pay a small amount of money each month and then they have
yea access it that most medicine should be that way. I think it really
should, I think, and I think we're moving towards that model more and
more. I want to know one question you hear another text real quick,
what's the most common mistake people make, just if you had to pick one
when they come to see you, what's the most common thing you see?
Stress? By far, meaning they don't deal with it, or they have
it. They have it everybody there. It takes a toll on you.
It takes a toll on you. Yeah, it really does. I mean,
I think we're all stressed out by one thing or another, and I
think stress interferes with so many of our Hell, what can you do about
stress? Take more vacations, get a massage. But there are there are
actually there are actually supplements. Yeah, it takes stress fighting supplements. There
are a couple great herbal supplements. There's one I like called Rodeola r h
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Martinez, you're a troubleshooter. Three all three seven one three talk three oh
three seven one three eight two five five. Jeff has a problem with a
dumpster. Jeff, what's happening? Hi Tom, thanks for taking my call.
What's going on? Man? I last September I rented a twenty yard
dumpster from a place called Big Bob's Dumpster. It charged me three hundred dollars.
And what was it? What did you rent it for? Oh?
I put yards and stuff in it. I filled it up. Okay,
So about five four days ago, I got a collection of the agency calling
me saying I owe another place called trash Daddy Dumpster six hundred dollars for the
rental. Now what, so you already paid for big what was the guy's
name, Big Bob Bob's Dumpster. You so you already paid for that one?
Right? But I so I got a hold of trash Daddy Dumpster and
this is what happened. They were scammed a lot. A person that I
rented from rented from trash Daddy. I paid Big Bob's Dumpster, which got
it I don't even think of a legit company. And they didn't. They
put it on a credit card, just speed to the chargers, so they
didn't charge. They didn't. How did they trace you? How did they
trace you? Man? How do they know you had their dumpster for that
time? Because there's my address? Oh, I'd say he's got an affirmative
defense. I don't know if he doesn't not. I mean, I mean,
what I'm saying is is that he paid. He paid the subcontractor in
full. If he has the receipts from Big Bob's I think he would win
in court. Okay, I'm going to say one thing that could possibly step
in the way of that could possibly what if, for example, Big Bob
stole some supplies and installed them at his house. I'm not saying this is
the same thing, but I'm just giving a scenario, and he paid Big
Bob in full for him, and he would have an affirmative defense if he
had certain things his residence, his contract, proof of payment and full But
there's also something else here with the dumpster. I know why they're going after
him. Trash Daddy's thinking, we're going to get paid probably if we go
after the customer. But there's something else called quantum marrowit, which means you
got value and didn't pay for it. I do agree that he's a victim.
They're both victims, but I don't know how it would shake out.
Jeff, how far is trash Daddy? How much was the bill? How
much does trash Daddy want? Okay, well, they charged six hundred dollars.
But this is what happened real quick. Well, how much do they
want from you? About six hundred dollars? All right, keep going?
What were you going to say? Okay? Well, I contacted trash Daddy.
They were very very cooperative and helpful. They have a five star rating
good goodness. They said that you know what, we got ripped off?
About eleven thousand dollars in a two month period. They worked with me and
said, you know what you got ripped off, We got ripped off.
We're going to squash this. Good. They were very helpful. But I
want people to know that the collection agency said they could put a lead on
my house for this, even though I I paid big boxes. Oh whoa
hold on? If trash Daddy doesn't want to pursue it, why would the
collection agency pursue it? Well, First of all, I was contacted by
the collection agency. Then I contacted. I get that, but what But
but did trash Daddy sell that to them? Or are they because trash Daddy
simply can tell the collectors stop collecting. No, you've seen these contracts time,
We've looked at them. These contracts are straightforward. Once you agree to
it, they get to decide what they do. They basically own the debt.
Yeah, if that was the case, that's what I was asking.
Is trash Daddy still in charge here? And they just hired the collection agency
or as a collection agency calling the shots? Well, I was contracted by
the collection agency first, So then they said they could put a lien on
my house. I didn't want that to happen, so I reached out to
trash Daddy, but trash Daddy worked with me. Okay, so what's happening
now? Well, I at first I just want to know if they could
put a lien on my house. I don't think so. But I mean
they could, but they couldn't perfect it. Yeah, I mean it would
go away. Well, at first I was nervous about that, but then
when I reached out to trash Daddy, they worked with me. And were
very helpful and cooperative. So I want people to know that just because you
ran from one guy doesn't mean that he turned around and ridge it from another
company. And no, I get what you're saying, man, I get
exactly what you're saying, And I'm really happy that you know that that the
the other place trash Daddy was stand up people and they're saying, look,
we're not going to make you pay for us skiing ripped off. I do
want to cover this one more time for anybody listening out there. If it
is your own residence, your home, not a rental, nothing like that,
but your home, and you paid a contractor in full, he did
not pay his suppliers, he did not pay his contracted labor. He didn't
doesn't even matter. But if you can prove that you paid in full,
you have an affirmative. You have to have a written contract that has to
be your primary residence and it has to be paid in full. Mark I
agree. What I'm asking is I don't think a dumpster rental falls under that.
It might, but I don't. I don't know why it wouldn't.
I mean, I mean, because you're you're renting a dumpster. I don't
know. I mean, is that considered a home improvement or a contract on
your house? I don't know. I have to look more into the landman.
What I'm saying is it's an affirmative defense. If they attempt to lean
the property, they'd be going after the property. They would be bringing it
into the realm of the property. Yeah, that's a good point that they
try. But Mark, what if someone else gets a judgment and puts a
lean on the house. We should you know what we should not? And
it has nothing to do with the house. That's what I'm getting at.
Affirmative defenses for leans are usually for improvements to the property. Now, we
could probably make an argument, Okay, this is an improvement to the property.
It helped improve the property. Who do you think we should check with,
like Brad O'Brien. Yeah, and basically I'm reading it here, basically
says under Colorado last supplier, subcontractors, other persons furnishing labors or providing labor
or material for work on your residential property. I mean that covers like any
thing I can imagine. Yeah, it does. I would like to ask
him. I'd like to ask him his opinion, though, Sure, I
want to tell you that I had no idea who trash Eddie was when I
did this, Big Bob. No, I get it. I get it.
You were screwed. I get it. Yeah, I don't know anything
about trash Eddy till five days ago. No, No, I totally get
it. Three oh three, Okay, seven to one to three. Talk
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about Leans in general, because there is an affirmative defense. And again,
this is something that a lot of people don't fully understand. And it is
only for your primary residence. It's not for commercial contracts. It's also you
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oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martino here. You
know a few years ago there was a law passed that helped people deal with
leans, and it basically gave them an affirmative defense if a subcontractor came by
and said, hey, we weren't paid, but there were certain conditions.
You had to have had it done, the work done at your primary residence.
You had to have a written contract, and you had to have proof
that you paid the general. Now, Brad, is that correct? First
of all, am I remembering that correctly? I'm not sure if you're describing
something besides the mechanics than the statute for a mechanics slean there there. There
was a few years ago or several years ago, the Affirmative Defense passed where
which gave consumers a defense if they could prove they paid the general. Oh
in the general didn't pay the subs right, Yeah, that's that's a trust
fund statute type of a claim. Do you know. We were just curious
Jeff rented. This is a weird one. Jeff rent it a dumpster for
a project he was doing at the house. He rented the dumpster. The
guy who the guy he got the dumpster from, was subleasing it, and
he never paid the guy who owns the dumpster. The guy who owns the
dumpster sent to creditor after Jeff. Now Jeff has since gotten it taken care
of. But we had a curious question would this fall under that If he
could prove he paid for that dumpster once, could that preclude the owner of
that dumpster coming back to him. That's a pretty nuanced question, I know,
but it is it is the same. I mean, if the collector
said, hey, you didn't pay for this dumpster, well, just as
a general think of this. Someone is building your garage attached to your house
and they have to get a dumpster in order to tear down the old one.
So the dumpster is there part part of the entire contract for the work
done. I don't know what difference it would be if it was just a
dumpster. Neither do I, but go ahead. In generalities, a sub
can go directly after the homeowner for a mechanics lean bypassing the general contractor if
the homeowner knew about the sub's work, or if there was a contract that
tie the all together. Where the sub can not go after the homeowner is
where the homeowner was unaware of the subs work and there's no written contract.
Okay, So now some mechanics naans can also be suppliers vendors leans. That
would be this case. This would be like a supplier. They supplied the
dumpster, they were never paid for that dumpster, but the homeowner paid the
guy. Okay, well, so it doesn't sound like the the the dumpster
vendor can can go after the homeowner, but they wouldn't because they got paid.
But it's basically a subsidiary dumpster vendor who had who might have might have
had a claim. So yeah, potentially they could have had the Connects claim
climb against the house. Does that answer your question? Yeah, yeah,
I'm thinking that Jeff is protected. Really the bottom line, Brad O'Brien is
a real estate attorney and handles things like this of course, but again it's
it's really a weird one. But Jeff, if I were you, you
did take get it taken care of, and thank you for warning us.
But I want to tell people and Brad by the way, if you need
to get a hold of him, is ols law dot com seven to zero
three seven zero seventy three eighty eight. Now, one thing I do want
to say, if ever you hire people to do work at your house,
you hire a general. Make sure everything is in right with the general,
and then don't sign separate contracts unless you're going to pay people directly. Sign
You might even want to ask for lean waivers too, right, and you
sign with the general and then you have proof of payment to the general.
Again, in general terms, I would never pay in advance upfront, not
big money. You pay as you go. And then if you ever have
a question on materials or subs, if ever you hear any rumblings investigated immediately.
I mean, that's why I always say, when you deal with people
on big projects, there's nothing wrong with asking for references, not only previous
customers, but suppliers as references. So let's talk to Claire. Now,
who has an issue with a contractor. Claire, go ahead, what's going
on? Hi? Toon, Hi, what's happening. I hired a contractor,
Gates Enterprises, for a variety of hail damage repairs. One of them
was roof replacement. Got a replacement, some deck railing painting, okay,
and the roof went great, I believe, But I pay the majority of
the insurance. They agreed to do this work for the Now, how did
you enter into it? How did you find Gates? By the way,
my neighbor. He Gates did my neighbor's roof and they were in and out
in two days. My neighbor was very happy with their work. And then
I looked them up on the Better Business Bureau and they had an A plus
rating. Yeah, which means nothing. We have people in prison with A
plus ratings. I don't know how I can get this across the true The
Better Business Bureau is a dinosaur. It's like it's amazing to me they're still
around. They're a useless organization. I would like to ask anyone anywhere if
the Better Business Bureau ever, ever, ever, ever, ever put someone
out of business, or sued somebody, or got money back for somebody directly.
I'd like to know that the answer is no. They're just a dinosaur.
And what bothers me is these A plus ratings? Mark and my Lion
or dying on. We sent the guy to prison. We were instrumental in
it. He's in prison for embezzlement and screwing clients, and he has an
he didn't he have an A plus rating. Yeah for about a year after
he was in the pen for twelve. Well, he's in there for twelve
and for the only reason they took him off the A plus rating is because
we started making fun of them. We started making fun of the Better Business
Bureau. Yep, people can look up Don Eiley, Don Eiley anyway.
Is he still on the Better I wonder he might still be up there.
They finally I don't know what they finally did, but they did so.
Claire, Here's what I want to ask, how much did you pay up
front? I didn't pay anything upfront? Because they agreed to do this for
insurance, and they waved my deductible which was one thousand dollars when they completed
the root, which is by the way, fraudulent on your part for the
insurance. But go ahead, keep going. Oh interesting, Yeah, if
you read your policy and they wanted to reduce their cost by a thousand,
it goes to the insurance company first. But keeping on, that's either here
nor there. They talked to you into doing that. Go ahead. They
replaced my roof, and I paid them the big check of the insurance money
that the job was thirty five thousand, I paid them twenty six thousand.
So after the roots, and at that time they took down my gutters,
I was without gutters for a month and for and without gutters, we had
a couple of snowstorms and the drops were going straight down and I was fearful
of water in my basement. I kept calling them, but I got no
one to respond to me for two weeks. At that point, I felt
I'd been scammed. I was worried. But in December they did call me
and they did put in gutters early December, but they don't work. So
now I have paid them all but forty seven thousand dollars, I mean forty
seven hundred dollars. And my question to you is am I obligated to give
him this money when my gutters don't work? I mean the gutter drips about
a foot on the right side of the gutter. Well, here's what you're
here's what you're uh, you're obligated to do. In my opinion, it
hasn't been decided in court, but most courts would rule you give them a
chance to mitigate and fix. If they don't, you can go out and
assess how much it'll cost to fix that problem and apply that money for that.
But then this guy can come and lean it. You're going to have
to defend yourself. So here's what I want to know. How the bottom
line is the gutter's leak? Is that right? Or do they leak in
one spot? Let's get right to it. They've one gutter leaks in one
spot and I have had him out here twice. All right, Any good?
Do you need someone else then to look at it and tell you what's
wrong with it? And then if he won't make the appropriate repair, you
tell him you're having it done. The owner, Andrew Gates called me up
two days ago and was very aggressive with me, first to accuse me of
not accepting his call and sending it to voicemail. Well, if only one,
you know, it might be a little overreaction, If only one gutter
is leaking, Well, I guess there's other work, so they Okay,
see now you're a moving target. So tell me exactly what is not done
on your house. We have a gutter leaking. What else? Okay?
They have not removed removed vent cap furnace and replaced vent caps. I don't
even know what those are. But was that part? Was that part of
your contract? Yes, they have painted my deck rail, but they just
painted over what was there. The work is terrible, really terrible. Okay,
hold on, we'll come right back to you. I got some ideas
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Tom Martino, your troubleshooter three O three seven to one three talk three oh
three seven one three eight two five five. Welcome to the show. All
right, Claire, here's the deal, Okay, bottom line, what you're
saying is you're not pleased with the work. It really comes down that you're
simply not pleased with the work. And what you would like to do is
you would like to withhold payment. Okay, you can, but I'm going
to tell you something. It has to be justified. You already got that
thousand dollars off from your thing, and you owe four, so technically you
would owe another five. But I don't even want to get into the numbers.
You better have somebody justify everything that needs to be corrected and how much
it's going to cost. Okay, because you talked about at first just one
gutter leaking, now you're telling me there's a bunch of stuff you don't like.
So here's what's going to happen. When did they finish the job?
When did they actually finish the last part of the job. The first week
of March. Okay, they have a certain amount of time. I think
it's four months from the time they leave the job to put a lien on
your house. Okay, Well he's according to his phone call two days ago,
he is putting a lien on my house. Well, first he has
to do it and intental ly, and he has to give you a warning.
And he has every right to put a lien on your house. I'm
not speaking to the quality of work right now. That Gates Enterprises has every
right to put a lien on your house. You have every right to dispute
it. But it's going to be a mess. Okay. I would guess
that contract you signed with Gates says that every penny you get from the insurance
company goes to them. Correct, And I'm happy to give it to him.
I have no problem paying them. Well, you just said you didn't
want to because the work sucks. No, no, I want to withhold
the money untill that gutter drains correctly, and I actually had. But what
about the other problems you brought? No, no, no, what about
the other problems you brought up. Well, I also have unfinished work.
Okay, what about that? So there's more than the gutter. I guess
I need to know from you. Number one. Can he record our phone
conversation because he did? Yes? Yes, yes, okay? And how
would I know if my roof is completed? I have the inspection notice here
and I got a mid roof sign off, but I don't know if I
have. I don't blame you for wanting to know this, Claire. You
should. You should make sure it passes inspection. Yes, and if you
have any doubts, you can hire an independent roof inspector, and there's nothing
wrong with doing that. If you've lost your trust to this guy, you
can have all of the work inspected and then you can demand that it be
fixed. However, I'm going to tell you something. If there's a difference
of opinion. One guy says, hey, this is fine, and you
say it's not. That they get to lean. That doesn't mean they're gonna
it's going to go anywhere, but they can lean, and then you have
to fight to show that you had every right to withhold that payment. Now,
if you want, we can call him for you and say look,
why don't you just fix the stuff and she'd be happy to pay you if
you want us to do that, Tell Kashina and we'll do that. I'm
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think I've read different things that there's been too much emphasis put on hydration.
Now I'm not saying we shouldn't hydrate, but there's too much put on it.
You don't really need ivs, you don't really need to hydrate like that,
And there's a controversy as to exactly how much water you need. Where
do you stand on water? Well, we'll get to the purity of the
water after this, but water in general, hydration, well, I think
are chronically dehydrated a lot busy, we forget to drink water. And at
one time they said, well we all need to drink one ounce per pound
of body weight, so other people said half an ounce. So there's been
a big debate about that. Bottom line is lately, what a lot of
authority are saying is it's very simple. Just look at your urine and if
your urine is a light yellow color, then you're getting enough hydration. And
if your urine gets dark, well you need more water. It's that easy,
just to say, what about pureness of water? What do you think
about that? Well, that's one of the one of the most amazing advances
of the last century is the availability of clean water. I mean, all
of these water borne illnesses that made so many people sick and even killed people
in the past is no longer a problem. So it's mostly a matter of
number one, making sure that you have good filtration systems. Generally, city
waters are treated with different chemicals to make sure that that they're safe. We're
not going to catch anything. But I think that for most people, tap
water is just fine. Okay, what about the nanoplastics. Have you heard
about those? I have heard about that, and obviously that's a big concern
and I don't know how we're going to deal with that now. Okay,
So vibration, water purity. How do you feel about organic food? I'm
just curious about all this stuff about healthy because I don't necessarily go out and
shop organic, Okay, but just how far do you go? Like?
What about organic? Do you buy organic food? I do as much as
possible. Number One, the price of organic food has gone down over the
years. It used to be at a great premium, but now in a
lot of cases, you can buy organic produce and other types of products for
about the same as conventionally raised and they have the advantage of not having the
pesticides and chemicals in them. And I don't think that, you know,
I think that some of the epidemics of health, like the increase in breast
cancer and women process take cancer men is largely due to exposure to pesticides and
plastics. So we can really avoid a lot of that by eating organic.
So I think if people can afford it and it's easy to find, I
would say, eat organic. Whenever you do, you eat organic, we
out of your way to find organic stuff. Do you. Oh, he's
not he lost him. Oh could be the weather because he's on remote.
But in any case, I'm not a answer, gan. I just I
often wonder, you know, how much more does it do for you?
There are studies tom in the medical literature showing that there's a reduced incident of
certain diseases for people who eat more organic. And then, of course,
like everything in medicine, there's studies. Oh, you find studies for everything.
That's the thing like for example, and I hate to open up this
can of worm, but you know, vegetarian versus non vegetarian. Some of
the sickest people I know were vegetarian, right, and that they're just not
eating properly. And yet then there's other people they say red meat will kill
you. Now, I'm not an absolutist on anything. I think the quality
of what you eat has a lot to do with it. I mean,
there's bad red meat, and then it would be better red meat. I
don't know, and maybe red meats should be avoided at all costs. I
have no idea, but I do know that there's something to be said about
balance, and there's something to be said about not being extreme. But how
do you feel about this? I mean, then there's the raw diet,
for example, totally raw everything raw, no meat zero. I mean,
I think any monolithic diet or let's say, religious diet of any I don't
mean that in a faith way, but a religious diet is an improvement over
the regular American diet. And that's why I see people see improvements not necessarily
because of that. Well, I mean, do you see what I'm saying?
I do. And you know, one of the things that I heard
was red meat is not going to kill you. Now blue green meat that
might kill you, so obviously, but seriously, moderation and everything. Just
like you're saying, I think that you know people who are gonna eat red
meat three times a day. I think there may be health risks with that.
No, I understand that. Yeah, but you know, eating red
meat once in a while, eating a healthful diet, moderation in all things.
I think the Mediterranean diet, Yeah, great, emphasis on fresh fruits
and vegetables, nuts, olive oil, red wine. You know, it's
a moderate diet. It's the middle of the road, and many people do
very well with that. But here's what I like, and I know you
like it. No matter what anyone eats, is this true or false?
I think it's true, no matter what anyone eats. I know people that
eat like crab. I know people that eat good and their freaking blood work
might be the guy that eats like crab shows no price problems. Why is
that? Why can some people get away with it? Well, it's all
has to do with our genes. And so there are people that you maybe
I don't know if their patient is yours or not, but there are people
they eat like crap and their blood work reads like perfection and they live to
be one hundred. I mean, it's crazy. I do have patients,
and every doctor has patients. Genes have a lot to do with it absolutely
genetic tendencies. You know, they eat a high fat diet, they eat
a lot of sugar, they eat a lot of red meat, they don't
exercise, and yet they live you know, ripe bold ages in perfect health,
and other people that are doing everything they can and they come down with
serious desisses. So what percentage would you say are the genes were dealt half
ninety eighties? That's an interesting question that you ask. Yeah, and I
would say, fifteen or twenty years ago, the feeling it was the rule
of eighty twenty. It was eighty percent our genes and twenty percent our lifestyle
twunches. Now, over the years, now that the human genome projects has
been completed, we've completely flipped that around. So what do we say twenty
percent genes and eighty percent of lifestyle truices? Really, so we're dealt about
twenty percent of our health. That's right. Your genetic code will predispose you,
but you can over I mean, it's the overwhelming factor is really is
what you put in, what you put into your body or what you take
out of your body. Absolutely okay, So on that vein, then if
if you had do blood work, I had a doctor tell me one time.
Maybe you know me. I've known him for years and years. You're
not here anywhere. I'm not around here doctor Rosedale, Ron Rosdale's he's just
a guru on the low carb and the moderate protein high fact. But anyway,
bottom line is he said, the truth of the matter, Tom is
I can have patience and keep them healthy, probably with very little physical touch
and examinations. Sometimes you need that for acute conditions, but most everything can
be seen in the blood. Do you agree that blood work is that important?
Well, blood work tells a lot, but we have other things that
we want to look at as well. And I think that doing a physical
exam is very very important. Yeah, And he wasn't saying it's not,
but he's saying that really, most of the time, the blood work tells
most of your health situation. Yeah, I think I think that's true.
You can learn a lot from the blood, not everything. Okay, so
let's talk about this. What can you not tell from the blood? Well,
what's your muscle mass? Oh? Okay, what's your cat mass?
All right, so that's an exam. Do you have to measure fat and
measure what's your what's your lung function. Oh, what's your cardiac I mean,
how long does it take for you to run a mile? I mean,
all of these things are questions that we want to know in order to
be perfectly healthy, and that's our goal. The goal is good is not
good enough? We really want optimal and be optimal health. We need to
know what you can do in these other parameters other than blood work. Can
you really really extend your life? Oh? Absolutely? Do you really believe
that? I really believe that the lifestyle choices we make, in other words,
what we decided to have for breakfast this morning, yes, has a
lot to say about what kind of day we're going to have and how healthy
we're going to be tomorrow. And the lifestyle choices we make for lunch and
for supper, and how we deal with stress and how we sleep and exercise
and all of these things are going to have a lot to say with how
healthy we're going to be going forward. So because there are some people that
say, you know what, you know, you're gonna live or you're going
to die based on what it is, based on your life, based on
your family eighty twenty, that's only twenty. I see that. I see
that that's what you're saying. And that was from a genome study, that
is from the Human Genome Project, so they were able to tell us what
every single how long has that been going on that project it was first started.
I think the first genome was done by this guy, Craig ren Ventnor,
and it cost over a billion dollars to complete his genome to find out
all of his genes. Here's the first one. But nowadays the prices have
fallen below one thousand dollars. Now, someone just texted me, I'm going
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I got a question here, Oh Mark, your question first, yes,
and the very serious go ahead, Doctor Grossman. I'm being very serious.
So once a year before I go in for my blood work in physical.
This year, I did it about two weeks ago before we went on vacation.
So at the beginning of the year, in January, right around January
fourth, up until basically the end of February, I did zero carbs.
I mean I had less than one or two carbs per day, if even
that much, and that would be a little eamon my coffee. On top
of that, I gave up alcohol for that period of time, so no
carbs, no alcohol. And then the other thing I did was I went
and worked out almost every day. Instead of doing yoga three or four times
a day, I was doing it fourteen fifteen days in a row. So
I go, I get my blood work. Everything comes back great, My
A one sees great. Everything's great. But I guess what I'm asking is
if the next ten months I don't live that same lifestyle and I only do
that two months out of the year, I mean, what does that say,
I You're not getting an accurate picture. Well, that's well I did.
I'm sorry, doctor Grossman or doctor Martinez. I was asking doctor Grossman,
is that true though, if someone goes out and corrects their body for
two months out of the year, I mean long term ramifications. I mean,
help me talk to me, baby. Yeah, that's it. Well,
let me ask you a question. Why did you do such an ultra
low carb diet for a couple of months where you're trying to lose weight?
Yeah? I did. I shedded twenty five pounds in about six weeks.
Okay, Well, I think that you know the idea of yo yo dieting,
where you gain weight then you do something radical like no carves for a
couple of months and you lose the weight. Then you go back to a
diet that enables you to gain weight again. Then you yoyo like that,
up and down with your weight. There's a lot of health risks associated with
that, and it becomes increasingly difficult to keep your weight down. So I
think moderation, you know, finding a diet that works for you so that
you can stay at But his question is if he does this for and he
shows good blood work every year, wouldn't what I said? Would not what
I said be accurate? You're not getting an accurate assessment of health if you
just let's just take let's just take A one C. My understanding with an
A one C is it's an average of roughly three months of the body sugar
levels at any given time. So if for the two months leading up to
an A one C test you're doing that, I mean, are you getting
a false reading for the rest of the year. You're not getting a false
reading, but you're not getting with the rest of the year's reading. That's
why he does it every three months. Explain your theory on every three months.
I mean, nothing can trend you catch it. Yeah, exactly.
The idea is, you know, the two pillars of staying healthy are number
one preventing disease and number two early detection. Right, so at least you
can find it early. So by doing blood work every few months, we're
not going to get any surprises. You know. We have a test now,
it's called the Galley or Grail test, and this is what we're going
to do. I got a text about it. We'll talk about that coming
up, but mark here I'm going to give. I want to just say
something. If you were low or high on d and you did one test
once a year, you wouldn't know that. You know I have sometimes now
I'm pretty dialed in, but doctor Grossman will say, Tom, you know
what, I don't know why this DHA. You know, cut it back
a little. And if I did when a whole year high DH or ultra
high iron or low this or high this, it could have different effects than
if I correct it in three months, right. I think the point I
think, the question I really have though, is this, guys, if
you correct the body in that two month period, I don't care if you
work out ten times a day and do everything else, it's perfect eat perfectly
and you know a doctor can define perfectly. But if you correct everything in
a two month period and then you're relaxed, and I'm not saying you go
back to gorging or doing you know, one thousand grams of whatever per day,
what I'm saying is, then I don't want to make it sound like
it's a yo yo diet. I know how to draw. I know what
you're saying. But what I'm saying is if you bring yourself back to good
fitness every single year and your blood work does come back good, what I
guess I don't understand the harm in it well because mark your body is let's
just say, I don't if that's the way you live. But if you
are doing it for two months out of the year and the other let's say
ten months you're eating like crap, then you would then then that's not That's
not what I'm doing. What I'm doing is I go to the no carb
because I know how to drop weight really quick. But I don't think then
I don't understand your question. But all I'm saying is this, you don't
get an accurate assessment of your health if you're gauging it on two months of
activity and one blood test. I mean, that's all I can say.
That's what I'm asking the doctor, though. But when I do go out
and he, let's say, I go into him after those two months and
doctor Grossman does whatever he does over there and pulls all the blood work,
I mean he's gonna say I'm healthy. I mean, is that not correct?
Yeah? No, no it is at that time, but I'd like
to see what it is that's four months later, months later. Then Okay,
let's say and let's go down the road with this. Let's say four
months later, everything's a little higher, cholesterol is a little higher, A
one sees higher, but they're still in the green. They're still there.
And then right before the blood test after that, I do it again.
I mean, I guess I just don't understand what's wrong with that. I
understand if there's nothing wrong with it. But if you truly want to know
a picture of health, then you need a picture of how you live,
not how you live in two months. If you're asking, if you're asking,
what two months correct the previous ten months of bad doctor, maybe here's
a better way. There's a lot of snowbirds out there that you know,
when they're out in Florida for the winter. Here, they're running, they're
exercising, they're doing everything. When they're back in Colorado, maybe they're not
on that same fitness model. So both depending on where they're living and at
what time of year, they have different habits. But ultimately it doesn't matter
because every year is the same and they are healthy. I guess, is
what I'm saying. But maybe I'm wrong. No, No, I see
what you're saying. It all comes down to what you. I guess it
comes down to you. Don't you a race, You don't well, you
can't erase actually sins of the past, but it's you can't do it.
You can't trick nature. You can't trick it by being healthy part of the
year. Right. And there's it's not white and black like this, right,
So I think it's a it's gray. You know, it's a mixture.
And I think that by doing a detoxification or a low carb diet for
a couple of months to treat some issues, you know, know, that's
fine and good, but then the other ten months be moderate as well and
be healthy doesn't mean it's okay to go on a binge. Health is more
of an average than it is a snapshot, it really is. What are
your thoughts on sugar? Doc, I mean, Tom and I have discussed
carbs in general for twenty years. What are your thoughts on it? Are
all carbs evil? No? All carbs not evil? But there are you
know, there are good carbs and there are bad carbs. And but but
even the good carbs should be limited, yeah, to a degree. I
mean, but eating good carbs, you know, unrefined grains, things along
those lines. Vegetables are great good carbs, good groups and moderation or good
carbs. Whereas sugary you know, desserts and sugary sweets and things like that.
They raise your blood sugar right away, and when you have a high
blood shair, bad things happen metabolically. For instance, cancer cells can only
eat one food that's sugar. So every time you load your bloodstream with sugar,
you enable. We all have cancer cells floating in our body all the
time you enable, those cells have a little bit of extra fuel, which
is not good. Sugar also raises your insulin, which raises your blood pressure,
which leads to heart disease. So I think sugar. I've written three
books so far and in the first book, I started to refer to sugar
as the white Satan because I really think that there are health risks associated with
for most of us. You know, the average American eats in the namehood
of one hundred and forty pounds of sugar. Here, it's crazy. We're
not just talking about why sugar, pasta, potatoes, anything that's a simple
carb that is sugar is sugar. And then but there are there has been
later research there there was and I was talking to Mark about this research that
all carbs, you know, just eliminate them, you don't need them.
And that's true. But what Doc was saying about vegetables and things like that
have other advantages that overweigh the small carboy, Yeah, because they're packed,
they're packed with different fund Then also how they release the sugar has a lot
to do with it too. Yeah, that's what they call the glycemic index.
Yes, we got more coming up. I got to take this now,
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nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Tom Martino, your troubleshooter. I want
to take that call about a contractor, and then we'll take some other calls
because there's somebody asks about that special cancer screening and they want to know how
good is it, how far out does it go? All of that.
I'm not sure did sus take that cancer screening? I thought she was doing
that one time. Maybe not, I don't think so. Oh okay,
hey, Brenda, what's going on with a contractor? What's going on the
biggest problem right now is they are not returning my phone calls? Jay,
Well, tell me what happened, Brenda. Then we hired Walter Lovely as
a consultant in twenty twenty one. And who's Walter? Is his name Walter
Lovely? Yes, he's okay, He's just a consultant who hired all these
contractors to start building. And how did the consultant charge you? He just
charged this twenty five thousand dollars. And what were you having done every time
the whole house built, the whole little ADU built. So we'll see your
general contractor or what? I really don't know. I know, hey,
listen, I can tell you what he does because I already looked him up
as we're talking about him. You hire him to kind of go over the
entire project, tom, So you're hiring him to manage the project. He's
like a general contractor, I guess would be one way to okay, But
when he brought the contractors in to do the work, Brenda, for this
ad you are you putting up an extra dwelling unit on your property? Yes,
it's up now okay. Is it a tiny house? What is it?
It's seven hundred and fifty square feet. Are you going to rent it
out? Yes to my daughter? Oh okay, because a lot of the
city is encouraging people to do this, you know, for to help the
homeless, not to give it away, but to help the housing crisis,
I should say, for affordable housing. But Brenda, when he brought contractors
in. Did you sign the contract with the contractors or did he sign it?
I signed it, okay, So what is the problem now? Mister
Lovely's people continuously did not pass inspection. So the regional building is on my
side totally for this. So my husband died October twenty third, twenty one.
So then I hired one source said that they could finish everything. So
this was back in twenty twenty that you hired Walter twenty two. I think
the beginning of twenty twenty one we hired him, okay, and then at
the end my husband. The end of the year, my husband died,
and then so the beginning of the next year we hired I hired one source.
So what do you so are you saying that? Are you saying somehow
you were screwed by Lovely and his gang? Lovely in his gang and one
source in their people? Wait? Yes, so both the first company you
hired one source to fix what Lovely people did? Right right? Oh,
why were you screwed by both? Okay? First of all, let's go
through Lovely. You were not screwed by Lovely because you signed contractors, which
contractor screwed up? The ones that Lovely gave you which ones screwed up?
Now? I don't mean to know, I mean what jobs were screwed up?
Okay, the windows, the framing pass inspection. But then it turned
out, now that we've done the last inspection for the whole building, the
windows were wrong, so they what they put in there, and you just
found that out now a truth? Yes, yes, Brenda, Brenda listen,
I feel Brenda. I really feel for you because you're a widow.
You're trying to get this thing done for your daughter. I really don't mean
to be a pain, but I need to parse this out. When you
hired Walter Lovely, you paid him twenty five grand. Yeah, then contractors
came through and they were supposed to finish the job, right, Yes,
are you saying they finished the job but you needed to hire another contractor to
fix it? Yes? Okay? How much did it cost you? Not
the twenty five grand, but how much did it cost you for those other
contractors that Lovely sent to you? Oh boy, I have give me an
idea of what you spend just roughly, I mean, do you know what
you spent on your project? What did you spend with Lovelase people? Not
the hundred with lovelase people. I don't have it all added up by no,
you don't have to. I just get so so hold on. And
then then you hired and then they did poor work. So you hired who
who was the second one one source? And you say they screwed you to
how did now? How did they screw you? Terribly? But wow,
and okay, mister Lovely's company, I put in a brand new furnace and
had a brand new air conditioning to put in, but hadn't put it in
yet. One source came in and said there was something wrong with that furnace,
and so they said they put in a brand new furnace instead of that
brand new furnace. And the city had already approved the first furnace that they
said was wrong, but then the city disapproved because they put in a huge
trace. So you didn't know what you were doing. You were taking people's
advice here, there and everywhere, and basically just throwing money at this thing.
What I want to know is this, at this point today, what
is the total amount of dollars you spend You spent on about one hundred and
twenty five with Lovely and his crew, about what did you spend with one
source? One source encouraged me or talked me into getting a loan from a
good lead for thirty five thousand dollars and I have not paid it yet,
but they say I owe them thirty three thousand of the dollars, so they
want thirty three. So your total project would be one twenty five plus thirty
three, so about one sixty roughly, yeah, or maybe more because when
I had to get the windows six, that costs eight more thousand dollars.
Okay, so what is your all in going to be on this? I'm
going to guess maybe one, yeah, maybe something. I said, yeah,
well that's not a bad price for that house. So what I need
to know is, here's what I need Tom Tom one source, just so
you know, because I looked it up. All they do is HVAC.
So was the only problem the original HVAC company? And if so, who
was it? Because Walter didn't own the HVAC company? Who was the original
as here's what I want to know before we asked that when you hired one
source it was only for the HVAC. Well no, they said they were
going to do the in capsulation around the basement. It's not really a basis
the cost. So they were going to do a number of things. Yeah,
okay, okay, I don't need to get into every detail. Here's
what I need to know, truly, What do you need now? What
are you calling about? Now? I need one source to return my calls
and tell me how much they're going to reimburse me for what they they put.
The furnace that they put in, they had to take out and put
their original not the original one, but the original same time back in.
So I don't want to pay for that. Well, okay, so you're
saying that you haven't paid them yet, but they want thirty three grand and
you believe you owe them less, a whole lot less. Well, I
think it's even worse than that time she took a loan out with another company.
I would guess one source is already paid. No, they're not.
They are already paid. Oh I thought you said, I thought you said
you had the money. No, I meant I hadn't paid them personally,
but especially if I called them when the mess was happening and told them they
hadn't done their job, and Goodley told me, said only paid them half
of the Look can I ask, can I ask one thing? And then
I know Tom's going to want to break You just said something I don't understand.
So you said they put in a furnace, then they had to remove
it, and I'm talking about one source and put the same type of furnace
back in that was already there. Correct. Yes, then what did the
original people ever do wrong? If all one source did was end up putting
in the same kind the original people under Walter did, what the hell did
they do wrong? Walter's people? Nothing with the hvact. Okay, Brenda,
I don't want to get complicated here. Here's what I want to tell
you. You're telling me one source got paid, We got to take a
break. One source got paid too much money. That's what you're saying,
right, Is that the bottom line? Yes? All right? Hold on,
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Tom Martino, your troubleshooter three O three seven to one three talk three O
three seven one three eight two five five So Brenda bottom line here, we'll
call them, but we need an accounting Okay. I don't want to go
tip for tat like this on the phone and Brenda. So here's what we
need. Basically, what need, why you feel Let's keep it very simple.
We don't have to give a complete history of this project. But I
really do want to help you, Okay, I mean you lost your husband
in the middle of this. This thing sucks you basically said, one source
got paid a certain amount of money. What you want to do is get
a rebate and you feel there's certain items. Can you show that to us
in a very simple layout in an email. Can you do that? And
then we'll have Deputy Doc call over there and he's handled these kinds of problems
before, or we can even have Mark call if I really want to help
you. But I want to see first the why you feel you need these
rebates. Okay, Okay, so here's how I wand do it. Can
I can I throw one more thing in? Go ahead? Go ahead?
She gets herself or guide herself into a situation. A lot of people do.
Had work done to her house, and they hooked her up with a
finance company. You have to separate these in your brain. You owe the
finance company that money, no matter what I'm not saying. I don't agree
that the other companies shouldn't refund you, but it's right. It's a different
deal. They trend lean your house, they can come after you. I
don't think she's suggesting she's not going to pay the loan, right, Brenda.
You just want to rebate from one source. Yeah. So I want
to go down the items and I want you to explain why you need to
rebate. Make it very simple for us. Okay, send an email,
Kachina, give her our email address, and we'll take it from there and
see what we can do to help. Deputy Doc, I'm going to let
you take care of this because I really think she needs help. Three all
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Now Tom Martino, Hi, Tom Martino here, Welcome to the show.
Three O three seven one three talks seven three eight two five five.
So you know, I affectionately call the people who stream my show on YouTube.
I call my YouTube warns and uh. But then I call my Facebook
people Facebook flunkies. And I said Facebook's kind of a dinosaur. And one
guy wrote said Facebook out numbers them all, and I guess they do.
So Facebook has three a little over three billion active active users, it says,
insane man. And TikTok has one point five billion. Why did you
say one hundred and eighty million, Mark? You were way underestimating. No,
no, no, us. So there's two numbers. The three billion
is global in the United States. The best information I can find is about
two hundred and fifty. You're right. Globally. Globally they say one point
nine billion, and I don't know how much of that's in the anyway,
the US on TikTok is around one hundred and eighty five million. Doc has
a comment before it comes on. Remind them what year it is. Okay,
go ahead, Doc, Hey Tom, talk about a misiagnosed. I
don't know if Terry remembers this, but in ninety five I had a liver
cancer and the people out here, my friends, all the doctors that I
knew, told me I had only six weeks to live and to go and
you know, get my affairs in order and everything. And I got a
second opinion. I went to slunk Kettering and they cured my cancer. And
here I am, you know, forty years later. But was it a
wrong diagnosis, Doc, or just the severity? Well, no, they
didn't know how to treat it. They said, there's nothing we can do.
So I got to you know, I flew out to Plone Kettering and
they were able to take care of me. And after the surgery, I
had absolutely no never had any more complications from the cancer. Wow, God,
that is hey, doc, Doc, how did you feel like?
Of course you felt horrible. How did that affect your life? Though?
When that when they told you you have X amount of time to live that
he was pissed off. I was. I was so angry that I wouldn't
get to see my son grow up. That that was the biggest thing.
But I'll say after the service, when I found out that I was cured
for about two weeks, during this Pollyanna stage, that everything is wonderful.
Life is great, And then you realize you have a family, you have
a practice to run. Life just comes at you. You can't be a
Pollyanna. You have responsibilities, and especially being a physician with a practice,
you can't be a Lalla Land. All the realities of life just come back
at you and you forget about the fact that you escape death. Wow.
Wow, Tom, if you ever wondered, like I think like an example
would be Michael J. Fox. Very successful, he had great movies,
he had that TV show, then boom, you get this diagnosis. It's
life changing, and he seemed to keep fighting and fighting and fighting. I
don't know, Dad, do you think you would or do you think you
would give up with with anagnosis? Like? It's hard. It's hard to
say. It really is hard to say. I would like to believe until
it hits you what you know. I'd like to believe I'd be a hell
of a fighter. But when I think about some paraplegic or quadriplegics they break
their neck or something, I think to myself, what what what? I
don't know. If I would be courageous, I don't think I would be.
And it depends on the condition I believe. Could you. I don't
think I could be. I think I would be brooding and terrible and and
and try to suck down some fentanyl. I really don't think I would be
courageous if I was a quadriplegic. I'm just gonna be straight. I don't
think I could be. I don't think I could be either. I don't.
I mean, I'd like to believe under some circumstances I could fire through
and be strong. But you know, and then then from both of our
doctors, we've got deputy doc. Okay, from both of our doctors,
doctor Grossman and deputy Dock Well, probably not Doc, because you were a
baby doctor and doctor Grossman. I mean, I don't know your career,
but if you ever had to confront a patient that's blood work or something has
come back, Doc, You've probably had You've probably had things come up during
pregnancies that are horrible. How do you talk to about such as doctor Grossman
in your practice? What I mean, because you do it so often.
You catch things very early, so you've had a lot of You told me
one time, you've had a lot of success not having people in your practice
die suddenly or or they if they do, it's nothing to do with cancer
and heart disease and all of that. Weren't you able to catch a lot
of that? Well, that's the goal. Yeah, I mean, but
there's always people. The two biggest killers. Yeah, I'd say it's worldwide.
Number one's heart disease. Number two is cancer, and that's more than
fifty five sixty percent of all this if we had the ability to diagnose these
very early, at the earliest stages. So, in other words, cancer,
if it's stage one, it hasn't spread, it's just localized. The
survival rate for almost all cancers is over ninety five percent, whereas if it's
spread it's stage four. Metastatic cancer survival rates are typically much much lower,
sometimes just a few percent. So the idea is early detection, and doc,
is that all through blood tests? Yeah, he's gonna talk talk about
that cancer screening. Yeah. The last few years they've they've developed what they
referred to as a liquid biopsy where they take a sample of blood and they
look for what are called ctc's circulating tumor cells. And whenever you have a
cancer, even if it's the size of a dot, the period at the
ends of it really yeah, yeah, it's smaller cancer, they can still
detect it. Yeah, it will give off some cells in your bloodstream.
And this test, which is called the Galery test, also known as the
Grail test as in the Holy Grail because it really is the holy Grail of
cancer detection. They can test for fifty of the more common types of cancer
cervical cancer, even when it's that minute that's small tiny, okay, okay,
but wait wait mark the first obvious question. If they detect these tumor
cells, do they know where they're coming from. The lab will report the
result was either negative or positive, and if it's positive, they will tell
you the most likely type of cancer that it is. And in our experience
of doing this what it is. Then we okay, so c for what
here? It depends on the cancer. So say, for instance, and
these are actual examples, someone turned out positive for colon cancer. They went
into the gasterinerologists had a colonascopy. They were able to see where the tumor
was, symptom and resect it. It's gone. Another person had ended me
cancers and if they're tiny, tiny, tiny, they can find them.
Yeah. They we have pests, scans and things. They were able to
detect various small cancers. And in the case that it's not detectable, we
now have therapies that are not chemotherapy, the use of things like hid dose
vitamin C that can kill cancer cells even when they're and then you do it,
and then you do a follow up grill test. Then we do a
follow up grail test for testifying. Have you had this happen in your practice
where you found cancers and eradicated it. We have, I'm glad to say,
we have holy crap cancers that would have surfaced and possibly killed someone.
Well, you know, I don't know what the future, none of the
court, but we do know that the test was positive for this type of
cancer. We implemented some treatments and then the follow up test was negative.
Now does it show just tumor markers or does it show tendencies? These are
not tumor markers. Oh, oh, I'm sorry, these are tumor cells.
What's the difference. Okay, So let's say, for instance, PSA.
We've already heard of PSA for prostate cancer. That's a tumor marker.
Okay, you could have a high PSA and not have prostateans just have a
big probitat. So it's a marker. This test, the dealer is actually
detecting, the cancer is actually detected. Now what do you say that insurance
company seriously would want everyone to get that? And how often would you get
it? Well, ideally we would do it every six to twelve months,
depending on our age. And ideally insurance would pay for it, because we're
take some money in the long run, you think that that would be cost
effective. But the bottom line is they were still not covered by it.
What does it cost. It's in the neighborhood of nine hundred and fifty dollars,
so it's not an inexpensive test, and insurance doesn't pay for it,
So that's remained a barrier to universal DARC. Would you ever want one of
those? Yeah, I would have no problem. In fact, I'll probably
have it done. Was that what was the that thing that they put up
on your artery tom and then look for issues there on your neck. Okay,
so this is the other yeah, right, So we had mentioned the
two causes heart disease and cancer. Yes, we've talked about the cancer early
detection, yes, with the glory test, and then for heart disease early
detection. It's just what you're speaking about, Mark, It's a roster sound
of the carotid arteries, the arteries in the neck that go to the brain.
And this is extremely accurate, letting you know if you've had the earliest
build up of cholesterol in the arteries, if you have arteries and the arteries
in your neck, the carotids overwhelmingly you have them in your heart as well
in other parts of your body, so you can then do follow up tests.
So early detection really is key. But the time has come that we
can look at the end of cancer and the end of heart disease. But
Doc, that's what I asked Tom when he was talking. He had that
done a couple of years ago. I don't know if you did it or
else. Six months. Yes, when you have it, and let's say
you do detect some kind of blockage or possible blockage or whatever you detect,
what does that mean? I mean, what is the fix? You put
them on? A statin or the fix could be different depending on what you
find. I mean, what is I would hate for someone to tell me,
Hey, this test came back negative, but there's not a damn thing
you can do about it. Okay, That's really never the case. So
the goal of doing the detection, the early detection, is to find it
early when it's easy to treat. The earlier it is, the earlier you
can treat it at any stage mark including up to surgery. And we had
people come in and they had extensive and severe disease and we didn't call them
and say, hey, listen, we need to make an apotment of talk
about this. In two weeks, we sent them right to the hospital and
they had emergency surgery. So and that would prevent not just heart disease,
but stroke stroke heart disease. Yes, absolutely, So you see the key
in medicine. In American medicine, it's always been a cute medicine. You
have a problem and you fix it. And the shift is now going toward
you look for problems and prevent them with help insurance companies. It's no,
and that's what but that's what it should be. If if there were ever
investors who wanted to really, really really come out with a new insurance company,
they would have preventive care as mandatory. And even though that would be
spread out, the price would come down if they have more participants to begin
with. Then once that happens, they're total aggregate spending. They wouldn't have
millions of dollars in cancer and heart. I mean, you know, a
cancer patient can eat up a million dollars right, Oh, absolutely easily easily.
A heart patient can eat up eight hundred, nine hundred thousand. You
know, you guys talk about you both talked to about markers compared to the
actual sales you find in that blood test. I'm curious about something, Doc,
When someone does one of these twenty three and me's or these genetic tests
and they come back and you do the full health part of it as well
as the ancestry, and they come back and say, well, you know,
you have some genes that you might have Alzheimer's, or you have some
genes that show up in people. That's right, they show tendencies. What
does that mean because you carry a gene that can convert? Is there something
you could do at that point to me? So? Yeah. One of
the most common genes that is a predictor is the gene for Alzheimer's. It's
called the Apoe gene, and people who have an abnormal variety of the apoygene
can be as much as three to six times more likely to develop Alzheimer's than
if they don't have. What do you do about it? That's the question.
Then why do the test and you can't do anything? Well, there's
a physician colleague, el Bretison has written a wonderful book, How to Prevent
and Reverse Alzheimer's disease. And anybody that we do this test on we find
out they have this apoe variant, will tell them. Listen, go to
doctor ter Do. I've had a lot of xt You got diet, the
low carb diet. He has some supplements, he recommends stress management, you
know all the There's a lot of things you can do to prevent Alzheimer's now.
And the good news is it looks like in twenty twenty five there'll be
an FDA approved drug to prevent Alzheimer's disease. And people who carry this predisposing
gene. Oh that is won Craig. You got to take a break and
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Hi tom Archino, you're troubleshooter three oh three seven one three talks seven
one three eight two five five Kevin, you want to give props to Rocky
Mountain Sewer and Drain. What happened? Yes, sir, Yeah, I
called your your show one day here the in the beginning of February because I
had a broken water Maine and my business. Yeah. And of course when
you have a broken water Maine, you're looking as quickly as possible to get
someone to work on it. But you guys had on your website Rocky Mountain
Sewer and Drain Oh Jose on the Sun. They came out and I would
have liked to see it done quicker, but I understand it with a lot
of hand digging, and it took it. It took what time it took.
But they did an excellent job. And I bet, I bet the
price was better than any other price you got. Well, I didn't get
any other prices here. Again, when you've got a broken water Maine,
you don't have a lot of time to go shopping around. And there's and
there's a not a lot of people that are equipped to do that job,
you know, so those guys time I need to. You know, there's
there's small businesses in big businesses. What is amazing to me. I love
our big businesses that are in Denver, like plumb Line and fix it in.
These guys good, but the overhead on some of their jobs is pretty
big. This guy basically does most of his work in the springs, so
you know, he doesn't even compete with our other people. But I'm telling
you it's a father and son. They own all their own equipment. They
can go in and do any kind of sewer line repair and that's all they
do. They're sewer lined people. If you're building a new house and want
water lines and sewer lines, they'll come out. They do the excavation,
they do the lines, they do everything. They're great guys. Good to
know, really is you know, man, we have someone else who does
really good work too, and that's Anthony or Tony over at what's his ruter?
What is the name again? A master ruter? Right? Oh,
yeah, Tony. Tony does a good job. Plumb Line has their own
excavation. I'm not I'm not discounting the big guys, and of course fix
it. They added their own trained division. They're fine too. But sometimes
for quick, easy, low cost jobs, these smaller guys can maneuver better.
They just can. That's just the way it is. It was it's
yeah three oh three seven one three A two five five. So we were
talking about screening as opposed to patching going after things. So the best screening.
I love this grail test. I'm going to have that done. That
that's a cool idea and I know you've suggested it before. The grail.
And then there is colonoscopies are great and blood work. What else? What
other screening, would you recommend if people are really want to do it?
Well, this Karta test that we've talked about that before is I think an
absolute that anybody over there each age of thirty five. Now, yeah,
that's good. Then what about like with the general screening, But what time
you said something, I don't want to glance over colonoscopy? They have these
tests now that instead of going in and doing the what we all know is
that colonoscopy if you're over fifty or over forty five, how about these ones
where you basically go into a bag and send it off. Are they as
accurate? They're almost as accurate. It's called the col of guard And yeah,
yeah, well, I mean some people are reversed to doing the colonoscopy
and it's better to do the col of guard than do nothing right, and
it's actually almost as accurate. But Mark, we do know somebody you know,
I don't know, what do you mean? Well, I don't know
if you know. Oh I did not know that that's right? Well she
I know, I just put that all together in the last two seconds.
I did not know that she did col of guard. It came back clean.
I'm going to have a talk with Suzanne then, because it's in pain
doing that. She was in pain and pressure. She went in and had
a massive problem and is now fighting for her life. And he told me
I did not know about the coli guard aspect, but I believe it's better
than nothing. But man, did that change his mind about that? God,
it would change my mind. In fact it did. Okay three three
seven, one three eight two five five. So it bummed me out with
that part. Yeah, well, why do you do coli guard? No?
I know you you know did the Oh no, you did? So
doc would Doc, You'll love this one. My first colonoscopy, I'm with
Kaiser. I've been with Kaiser for probably longer than I should have been.
But I go in, I have it done, and nothing against the doctor,
but he finds a poll up. And what I didn't realize about colon
cancer is how preventive it is. If you have something that hasn't turned cancerous
yet, but they know what's going to and they get rid of it by
clipping it. I mean, you're pretty much done. It's it's it's really
a remarkable thing. But he clipped it too close, so I end up
having my second colon. I could be the very next day in the emergency
room because I was bleeding. Yeah, they it was their fault. Yeah,
that's unfortunate. But you know, there's a good thing about colon cancer
is that's a slow growing cancer. And that's why if you do a colonnasby
and it's negative, they don't find anything, no polyps, et cetera,
you don't need to repeat the procedure for ten years. Is it true?
Though? If you have polyps and they take them, they send them out
to the lab, they're non cancerous. That basically it's done and over.
I mean, you're good, you go in for your next one. But
if they get rid of it before it's cancer, you're for the most part
safe, right, Yes, absolutely. And the idea is if they go
in they find some benign polyps, you know, if they find one or
two, they might say, well, instead of waiting ten years, come
back in five years. But if they find multiple, three or four more
polyps, they may then come back in two or three years. That's what
they did to do. Well you said for me three years yep, yeah,
then you must have had a little bit more and more complicated Bob.
But in any event, by following their advice and doing it on their schedule.
The chances of developing a colon cancer that's gonna prove to be untreatable is
almost zero. You know what, I'm sorry, Tom, I'm just I
love this conversation. So it makes me think of who was the Apple guy,
Steve Jobs? What did what kind of cancer did he have? Either
of all, he had a neuroendocntemer of the pancreas. Oh, I'm sorry,
Oh okay. You know what's amazing to me that he taught me a
lesson. I used to think, well, if you got money, you
know, no matter what you get, you can probably get rid of it,
which is total bs. Because the guy had a billion dollars back when
a billion dollars was a billion dollars mark, and he couldn't get rid of
it. It was that it was not detected in time. Well, what
I say is it happened in his case such as for instance, the whole
reason that the companies called Apple was because he went for a year eating nothing
but apples, and that's like a pure sugar diet. So you know,
he just because they have a lot of money doesn't necessarily mean he knew everything
he needed to know about Elf got that. Yeah, I didn't know that
about Apple. I had no idea. We got to take a break three
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three nine two zero sixteen twenty two Hi Tom Martino your troubleshooter three all three
seven one three talk three oh three seven one three eight two five five.
Let's uh talk to Mark. He has a question for doctor Grossman. Mark,
welcome to the show. What's going on? All right? I just
wondered if you guys could talk about cross state if what's coming up with the
treatments with prostate cancer? And is there anything new coming along the lines for
that? Now? Are you asking for yourself? My dad at it and
I'm concerned i'h have it. And do you get regular PSA checks? I
haven't in a long time, but I need to start again. Okay,
Yeah, has it ever run high? With that history? Why wouldn't you
be doing it? I'm just curious. Are you just afraid of that?
No, I'm just super busy and I don't make a whole lot of money.
So well, the good news is the prostate cancer screening test, the
PSA, it's like in the neighborhood, even if you're paying cash for twenty
five dollars, so it's not an expensive test. Oh okay, And with
the family history, you know, I think that you should definitely want to
do that every year, at least every year. Okay, yeah, all
right, yeah, yeah, that's but there are you know, you'd ask
if there are new treatments. There was a stream of new treatments that are
coming on board, involving lasers, radiation, gamma knife, focused ultrasound,
so that yeah, there's many many treatments that are not you know, in
the old days they did these removal of the prostate, which often was a
complicated procedure, but now they have some very very elegant, precise procedures that
they can do. So once again, early detection is key here. So
get your PSA every year. Hey, doc, is there false negatives or
false positives on PSA tests generally? Or they're pretty so like every test there
is, you can have high PSA and not have a tumor. Yes.
Yeah, And the good news is there's now a urine test. Let's say,
for instance, you go in, you get your PSA. It's a
bit on the high side. In the old days, which is five years
ago, the urologists say, okay, well let's go in andto a biopsy,
which is not comfortable and has its own sets of risks. Well,
now there's another test called an XO DX EXO d X and that's a urine
test, and it will tell you if it's likely to be something that you
need to be concerned to get a biopsy, or if it's likely to be
benign. Hey, you mentioned that PSA tests twenty five bucks on your services,
the concierge doctor services, so I know for two hundred and forty nine
bucks people can go in and get their initial blood work done, have the
consultation and everything like that. But if you suggest different things like blood tests,
what do they do? Do you do them in office or do you
have to go somewhere else? That'd just wonderful more curious about your services.
That's the wonderful thing. Mark everything is in house, go ahead, Doc
Coumcer. Yeah, we do so. For instance, you know, people
can come and get their their blood work drawn in house. The croateate IMT
test we do in house. It the collection for all of these different tests
things not in house. Yeah, and then they give you a beautiful box
of supplements that he's put together and then if you need extra or less or
you know, they customize it. It's not one of these places where one
size fits all. Everyone is on different kinds of supplements based on blood work.
When people tell me they're on supplements, you know what I say to
them, how do you know here on the right ones? You know?
You don't know? It means you're taking a multi vitamin every day. Well,
there's nothing wrong I guess with that. But what I'm saying is,
in general, there are things you shouldn't have too much of. Exactly,
yeah, exactly. So Okay, Tom, Tom's been going to you forever,
and I don't know if Tom's agreed to talk on the air. Yes
I do, yes, Okay. So so basically you go in get your
blood work every three months, and then Doc you look at it and I
mean, give me an idea like, oh, your vitamin d's too high.
So the supplements we're going to tell you are going to be less vitamin
D or more or what. Yeah, exactly. So we'll look at his
cholesterol and say, Okay, your cholesterols too high. We need to lower
it a little bit more. Vitamin T is too low, you need to
take a little bit more. Your testosterone is off, we need to do
so. Or you need zinc or you need this. But the great news
with me is we've been level on what I mean, I've been really we've
dialed it in, which is really cool. And then he does preventable maintenance.
You're basically doing preventable. But then he does a yearly. He does
do a yearly though that is more intense physical and that's good. I mean,
that's what you want, right, And then in that kind of thing,
you know, they check other things. You checked, you checked muscle
density and where we stand on percentile? Yeah, we have a special scale
and this scale very accurately will measure your fat mass, your muscle mass,
your body water, whether or not do you have any fat inside your liver
fat liver that can well, all of those things. I think that that's
very important. We do that every year. And you know, I don't
mean to brag, but you know, I was like, seriously, he
told me, I'm like in the ninety eight percentile for muscle mass, and
I don't that's for age or is that for Yeah, it's compared to other
menuations. Okay, what's what's a good reading for that? So you mentioned
three things. You mentioned fat, muscle, and water. So what is
a human? What should a human be made up with? Percentile? What
would be the ultimate? Yeah? Well, well I can give a percentage
for fat and in general, ideally men should be less than twenty percent fat
between twelve and twenty and that's hard to do. Right, Well, you're
in a minority group because given that seventy five percent Americans overweight. Yeah,
you know, if you're in that range, you're probably in a minority group.
But there's a big difference between being twenty two and being thirty two.
So we look to be in that range. For women, it's a little
higher. Women have more fat. Twenty to twenty six is considered optimal for
a woman. Uh huh, So we measure that make sure that people are
in the red group and if not, then we want to, you know,
work on getting too optimal weight. Do I need to do this?
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one three eight two five five. So we've talked about detection, and we've
also talked about monitoring, you know, us, we're not talking so much
about fixing, although there are fixing things you can do, and but but
detection. I think Grossman wellness concentrates on early detection of stuff and monitoring and
measuring. I mean, because really, other than that, what do you
have? I mean, most primarys you can go in I think once a
year under insurance to get a wellness check. Now, I guess they let
you do that, but really you only see them when something is wrong,
not when you never can tell when something is trending. But there is something
else, Dock that I do outside of your clinic that I think a lot
of people neglect, and that's a dermatology check once a year. I think
that's critical. Oh yeah, Now if you see something, obviously you can
tell people get that checked or whatever when you're looking at your patients. But
that's something they should do no matter who they are, where they are,
no matter what clinic they go to, because most clinics don't do dermatology checks,
right, most don't, that's true. Yeah, So with a dermatology
check, that's another thing you can catch if you I was told by my
dermatologists, if you go yearly, very seldom will there be anything untreatable.
Right, absolutely, But it's amazing how people just only go when a spot
shows up or something happens. Mark do you do? Does Kaiser have that
as part of their Well I missed that part? What what what dermatology checking?
Uh? Well? Interesting? Yes, I mean I don't like I've
never been to a dermatologist because I haven't had any strange moles or anything.
But when I go in for our yearly physical, they do look for anything
skin cancer wise, and if they find anything, they would refer you.
Okay, well you know what that is? Uh? That is really important?
So we covered that. What have we not covered? Doc? Because
really that detection and monitoring and measuring uh dermatology. Uh you're you know?
And when I say measuring monitoring, that's that your clinic with the scans and
with all of that. So with this cancer check, this Grail test,
you don't really need those body scans anymore they used to do. Remember they
used to do those full body Do you even need that anymore? Well,
we do a combination for cancer detection. One thing we do is what we've
talked about, the Grail test for fifty kinds of cancer. But also we
like to do these whole body MRIs. Oh really look at to see what
we can see there as well, So we do both. Oh, I
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Coming is the Troubleshooter Show. No, Tom Martino, Hi, Tom Martino
here, Welcome to the show. Okay, have you heard that there is
a bus stuck? It was going up to the mountains. Yeah, lady
lady skiers. Yeah. And and what happened was they got they got stuck
and as a result, they haven't been able to leave. They can't even
turn around and come back because all of the roads are closed. And what's
the first yes you thought of? Yesterday, afternoon, all night thing you
thought about? What did I think about? Yet? When I first saw
the story, it was like five thirty this morning on Fox thirty one or
nine or whatever it was, and they said they'd been there since yesterday.
What's the first thing you thought about? Oh my god, what, I
don't know what I thought? How the hell are they going to the bathroom?
Well, guess what, I'm gonna call one of them who gave me
permission because she's on there. I hope. Wait, I'm not. It's
not coming through, is it? It's not coming through here? I got
to make I can hear it in the background. No, no, no,
I'm going to make it go through the board. Hold on, it's
not Stephanie, is it? No? No, Stephanie's friend. No.
If Stephanie was stuck up there, I'd be I'd be digging my way through
that. So o wait, she's calling me back. Hold on technical issues.
All right, let's go. Is this Brenda. This is Tom Martine.
We're on the air right now, as you agreed to Brenda. We
can't believe what is happening. Are are you true? How many people are
on that bus? Well, we started with sixty and half of the girls
just got off the bus in Morrison because we finally got moving after a twenty
two hour bus ride. No, wait a minute, so how did this
happen? You're you're you're on the bus heading to the mountain or away from
the mountain. Oh wait, we skied all day yesterday. Yeah, at
three point thirty we got on the bus and started on our way home to
Denver, and we had a lot of problems because of the weather. And
so did he pull over or was the road closed? The cops tell you
how did that happen? We stopped multiple times because after about seven miles,
as we had just gotten onto veil paths, there was a collision ahead of
us, so we were backed up for miles and sat there for hours.
When we finally got going again, we overheated our cars, I mean our
bus did anyway the transmission, and then we proceeded. Finally at eleven o'clock
at night because of the roads and accidents everywhere along the way, we finally
made it as far as Idaho Spring, where we switched drivers. A driver
from Denver came up because our driver can only drive for so many hours.
And in the process of turning into Idaho Spring so we could switch drivers,
we got stuck again. So it's been it's been quite a y. Can
you guys have couldn't they have stopped? It? Isn't there any motels or
hotels they could have stopped at in any in the Idaho Springs or whatever.
They were not letting us get off at Georgetown because it was overcrowded, and
when we did get to Idaho Springs, everything we were just determined to keep
going, and because we had a new driver and we got the bus working,
so we proceeded, and we finally twenty two hours later, are now
just now pulling into Denver. Oh my goodness, I know. Did it
have a restroom on there? Yes? Uh. We were worried about running
out of toilet paper, but we survived, and we did run out of
water and food, and we did have We had one diabetic on the bus
and one of my friends Wow, and somebody who got injured coming down the
mountain yesterday because there was what they call thunder lightning snow something like that,
thunder snow, and everybody had to evacuate the mountain all at once, so
there was multiple people getting hit by other skiers. God, well, it
was just a fight and interesting ride. Oh my goodness. So we're exactly
are you right now? You're pulling in? Yeah, we're pulling into the
parking lot where we all park our cars off of Hampton and we will brush
our cars off. Maybe called maybe they should call one of our attorneys.
Yeah, yeah, I don't think. I don't think they're thinking lawsuit,
right. I think with an act of nature like this, what can you
unless the bus wasn't equipped for some reason. I mean, oh no,
the bus drivers were great, the bus you know, it wasn't their responsibility
to have food and water for us because it's normally a two hour drive.
You know, I wonder if people should have survival packs in their cars.
I'm serious. I don't have one. I have. I have warm clothes
and a hat and gloves, but I don't have snacks or anything like that.
I figure intermittent fasting wouldn't hurt me for twenty four hours. But well,
I don't know. Miss you do, miss water, And I'll tell
you what else we miss is those of us who maybe need to take medication.
Yes, of course we didn't have our medication. So but we were
warm because we were in sea clothes and they tried to keep the heat on
as much as they could. And you know what, I prayed. And
we have a very positive group of women. They're very vibrant and positive,
and we were concerned not just about ourselves, but about everybody else on the
road as well. I wanted to ask you about that. I saw the
story this morning on Fox thirty one, and I'm curious the woman's group.
It said, you guys go ten times a year. Is what is it
all about? How did you guys meet? What is the group? Well,
it was word of mouth and we meet every Wednesday. Henry ski together.
You know. It's fun to ski with other people and safer also,
and that's what it is. We all love as a Yeah, as the
group grew, we hired a bus, a professional bus driver. So part
of the joy is that we don't have to do the driving. That's very
cool. So it's got to be a tradition. Now it is a tradition.
Actually I've been doing it for twenty years. Wow. Is this the
first time in all that time you've been stuck? Yes? First time ever?
Wow? I think I think in twenty sixteen we had a flat tire
and we were delayed a little bit, but you know we and then during
during the COVID years, the pandemic year, what did you do then?
Did you still go? We did? Okay, we did, we were
we wore mass you know, we did what we needed to do. Well,
thank you Brenda for being on. We appreciate you taking the time.
Oh Tom, here they're often the problem solver. We're going to have you
said job out for we'll see it. They came anyway, Thanks, so
thank you bye bye. Oh that's great. Okay, So that was a
live interview from a woman, Brenda, And boy, you know that's got
to be a long twenty four hours off. Oh god, I couldn't even
imagine that. What a pain in the ass. But thank god they had.
I didn't know those buses had a restroom. I had no idea they
had a restroom, you know, as little it's just like in an airplane,
probably one of those little little restaurants of restrooms. Now, being diabetic
in and of itself can't hurt if you were, unless you had insulin then
didn't get to eat. Then your blood goes low. And of course being
high would be if you ate and couldn't get to your insulin. So either
one it would be high or low. But the low is the quicker.
Danger is the low. I didn't know that. So most diabetics, it's
not having too much sugar, it's lack of well no, no, too
much no. They usually if you're diabetic, you have and you're not treated,
you have too much sugar all the time, and then that slowly kills
you, I mean slowly, your bins and all of that. If you
have low blood sugar, it instantly kills you if it's really low, right,
don absolutely, yeah, So too much insulin that you and ject could
kill you? Or what happens to people since I know so many diabetics like
that type one is they take insulin in anticipation sometimes of eating, or they
take or they and then they don't get to eat, or they something happens
like this, or they they took too much after they ate, they miscalculated,
and then they need like juice or something just to balance it out because
they went too low. But most of the the most the biggest danger is
that over time, high sugar will will ruin your legs and your arms,
and your kidneys and your bones and your everything. So then what does so?
What does these these weight loss drugs like a semi glue tage, let's
talk about those well, hold on. Besides, so, what I here
on the advertisements is a lot of them have nothing to do with weight loss.
They use them if they're diabetic. Why would someone use semi glue tide
over insulin? Or you get to a certain point where semi glue tide simply
doesn't work and you have to use insulin. No that's a good question,
though it's not in place of insulin. Is it usually for a type tour
or is it type one? Yeah, there's two main types of diabetes,
type one and type two, and type one you do need insulin for type
two. Actually, insulin is usually kind of the last spa. You don't
want to use it. You don't want to use it all. Most type
twos have too much insulin. Beginning with so one of the things they found
in this family of drug it's called GLP one agonis. They started with lyric
glue tide, which was an injection had to do every day. Then they
found out people would lose four or five pounds, and then they came up
with semi glue tide, and with semi glute type people were losing thirty forty
fifty pounds in addition of the bloodsher control with that iabetics, and that's why
it's become such a popular weight loss drugle Oh wait, wait, wait,
so the reason semi glue tide lowers the diabetes or the A one C or
the blood sugar level whatever is simply because it makes you lose weight, or
does it do it within itself? Does that make sense. Yeah. No,
it helps the sugar to come from the bloodstream into the cells, so
it lowers your blood share, which is the goal of diabetes therapy. But
it simultaneously seems to have effect on your gastrointestinal tract, so you prop weight.
Yeah, you don't eat as much, you get full more easily,
and you lose your appetite. And then when you lose the weight, your
diabetes actually gets more under control. Yeah. Is so it really is a
double edged sword. A semi gluetide series of drugs, including the new one,
Maderno or truzepetide, has just revolutionized weight loss medicine, and they're now
saying that these drugs are just as good as the stomach bypass surgery. Is
Hey, when we come back from breakdown, can you talk a little more
about the Alzheimer's drug you were talking about coming out in a year or two.
Sure, I'd be happy to That sounds amazing because over the years I
have heard everything. My grandmother died at ninety four. Her last three years
with all Teimer's was absolutely horrific. I mean, she was a vegetable basically,
and I've heard everything from smoking cigarettes and drinking and anything else in the
world helps not get Alheimer's. But it sounds like something might finally be there.
It absolutely is, and it's not that far off. So let's talk
about hormones in general. We talked about blood work, we talked about screening,
monitoring, measuring, and treating. But hormones, hormone where do they
play in and is it for everyone? And I contend everyone will eventually need
hormone therapy of some kind because we run out well, I think that I'm
since I've been testing hormone levels on people, I've been very surprised to find
that it's not just a problem for sixty year olds and seven year olds,
but in fact, we have men and women in their twenties and thirties and
their hormone levels are low. And one of the ways that we stay feeling
youthful is having youthful levels of hormones. So if we do testing on a
patient we find that they have low levels of hormones and we're able to balance
them to more youthful levels, they feel better and they age better. All
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And then we have doctor Grossman with us, Terry Grossman from Grossman Wellness.
It's that's what it is. It's a wellness clinic. And so we talked
about how we how when you go there for a flat monthly fee depending on
the program, you get your supplements, a lot of your prescriptions, you
get your blood work and your consultations and constant monitoring on a three month interval,
and then of course you can to call or text them at any time.
And then you also get of course the measuring, monitoring and all of
the quantitative stuff. Hormones is something we didn't talk about. We talked about
blood, We talked about cancer screening and testing, which you know that's an
extra test, but it's a wonderful test and it can find cancer at its
very early stages and been responsible for saving a lot of lives, you know,
doctor grossmand. On a side note with that, I'm surprised more and
more people don't do it. It's just because it's expensive, right, I
think that's the reason. I mean, and that of course it is expensive.
But wow, if you have cancer in your family, it was so
this will detect even a breast cancer. Yes, there will. Yeah,
that's one of the fiftieth tests for Okay. So on the hormone thing.
Hormones we run out right or were they're depleted? Over time they diminished,
yes, over to our ability to make them diminishes, or we have one
supply that diminishes well. Actually, those hormones like estrogen, progesterone, testosterone,
they are made out of cholesterol. So you start with the cholesterol molecule
and you make some modifications and then it turns in these hormones. And when
we're young, we tend to do it very well. We make a lot
of hormones, and as we get older, we make relatively less and yet
less. Well, it's hard to stimulate the body to change that, so
we just use replacement. In other words, we take those hormones and is
that what they call bioidentical. Yeah, bioidentical means we use the hormones that
are biologically identical to what you have when you're younger. They're not drugs.
And the main hormones you do you do main hormones are a testosterone, estrogen,
progesterone, those sins, those are You know, when we think of
hormones, we think of sex hormones, and those are the three main sex
hormones. But we also have thyroid hormones, we have slate hormones like melatonin.
So there's all infuluins, a hormone of blood triger But when we talk
about hormone replace therapy, generally people think about testosterone, estrogen, and progesterone.
Now when they do that, what is the controversy. You don't know
how many people I've heard say, Tom, you're doing testosterone. That's bad
for your heart. Where do they get that from. There was actually a
study of VA study that was done a few years ago that came up with
the conclusion that men who took testosterone had a hire and sences a heart disease.
This has since been refuted by multiple other studies and you know, so
much misinformation. In fact, the other study shows that it's a guard,
it's a stake of guard exactly, that it prevents our disease. And it
was the same thing with prostate cancer years ago, ten fifteen years ago.
Oh my goodness, you're taking testosterone. You're going to get prostate cancer.
Now more urologists than not will urge men that have prostate cancer in many cases
to take testosterone to help prevent it from recurring. So okay. The next
one was about estrogen that is very controversial. I can't tell you how many
women said it's going to cause cancer. Once again, there was a study
and this study was sponsored by the drug company that made Premarin. Back in
what's premarin was a type of estrogen called conjugated equine estrogen. It came from
course pregnant horse urine and they isolated this compound. They called it Primar,
and it was a prescription drug and the drug company wanted to prove how healthy
it was for women to take this. Well, the study blew up in
their faces and they found out that it didn't. It actually increased the risk
of blood clots, breast cancer, and a number of other issues, and
as a result, doctors all over the country quit prescribing what was then the
main estrogen was was premarin. Well, they threw the baby out with the
bath water. There was a subgroup of physicians nutritional functional medicine that continue to
prescribed bioidentical estrogen. Bioidentical estrogen has not been shown to have those negative side
effects. I mean, is it one hundred percent perfectly safe. No.
In certain women, like with a history of breast cancer, history of blood
clots, they should stay away from estrogen. But for most women, estrogen
replacement therapy progesterine replacement therapy, if monitored correctly with PAF smears and mammograms,
et cetera, can be very very safe. So the ones that should stay
away are which ones specifically well with testosterone. No. No. With with
estrogen itself, I would say history of endometrial cancer, history of breast cancer,
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Martine, your troubleshooter Thraill three seven on three talks seven one three eighty five
to five. Now, we got a lot of questions for the doctor,
but Samantha First has a follow up twenty fourteen Cheep Wrangler an issue with the
warranty. Samantha, I'm trying to find your original call here about your about
your cars, tell me about it. I'm here, I don't see you.
I don't yeah, yeah, I don't see us. Let's say I'm
trying to find your call. Yeah, just refresh me here and go ahead.
Samithy, it was the twenty fourteen that you bought an and forty after
forty days the transmission went out right. But here I think the issue was
you had a warranty right yes, and it was one hundred and twenty nine
thousand miles on the car, right yes? Okay, So I forget I
don't have notes here on we left this it said that I told you to
do something here. I'm trying to find my notes. Your mom bought a
used twenty fourteen g brang. Okay, so I did the warranty cover it
or not? So that's that's why I'm calling. The warranty is only covering
thirty eight hundred? Okay? Now why now the warranty is covering forty forty
thirty eight hundred. Let's say, so it's thirty eight sixty two? Why
why how'd they come up with that figure? Okay? So it's three different
charges. It's the transmission, the gasket, and the differential. I did
speak with the body shop and they gave them this amount, and they said,
okay, we're only going to cover the thirty eight sixty two. But
how much was the total bill? Samantha? When does the total bill?
Samma? How much is the total bill for four thousand, four hundred and
fifty Okay? So why have they chosen not to pay that six hundred?
What? Why aren't they paying that? That's what we're I just spoke with
them and they said, call the dealership or the body shop and asked them
what's that extra. I called the body shop. They said it's not extra.
We told them this amount and they decided to give us this different am
Okay, so they're Samantha. They're saying the body shop. Why did it
go to a body shop for a transmission because of the warranty. They told
us we can take it to any body shop. So that's where we took
it to the Larry Miller cheap. Is this where the drive shaft broke or
something? No, no, okay, I got the wrong one. I
just wondered why a body shop is fixing a transmission. I'm sure they're not.
They probably sent it out right, the warranty sending them the transmission.
Okay. So here's the thing. Whatever the warranty covers, it covers.
Whatever it doesn't, it doesn't. What we need to figure out is why
they're not paying the whole bill. The body or the shop says, they
told the warranty company how much it was going to be right right, and
the warranty company approved it, but they're not paying it. Okay. Do
you have a deduct that you have to pay? Yes? Just through two
fifty is so deductible? Is that? So? Is the thirty eight did.
And if you put the two fifty, does that mean that the warranty
is only shortening you four hundred and something or three hundred and something. It's
it's muss. Here's what I need. I need to know this. You're
two fifty deductible. Okay, so you're you're paying thirty, your company's paying
thirty eight hundred and sixty two dollars, and then you're covering two fifty.
Is that right correct? Okay, so the balance to is going to be
somewhere in the neighborhood of four hundred of three hundred and something dollars, right
right? Okay, that's what is in question. We have to figure out
what it is. So I'm going to have somebody call up. Can we
have da call over there? I heard you put them in time out.
I don't know what that means, Mark, but yeah, of course he
can call over there. Okay, I want I'm gonna have our deputy call
over. We just have to figure out what the bill is and what is
not covered. Apparently the warranty company is looking at it saying we're not covering
this and I don't know why. Okay, Okay, did they tell you
why? What did they say. So, They said, call them and
us, what's this extra? And I said, hey, they gave me
the prices. I broke it down for him. He said, oh,
well, we don't understand why. Okay, do you have the invoice?
Do you have the invoice in an invoice? Some much? No, they
haven't even started because they got to give you. They have to give you
an Oh, they haven't started the work yet, not yet, because okay,
good, then we're gonna call. Okay, that's why you don't have
an invoice. Hold on, we need a breakdown of the charges. Give
this to Chopper and let's see what he can do with it. Samantha,
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eight two five five. Okay, let's finish up with doctor Well Grossman.
So we were talking about other things, hormones we went into. Now I
have some text questions. I want to get to delivery of testosterone and all
of that. So shots versus pellets, Yeah, those are the most common
ways. Typically, oral testosterone doesn't work well. Okay, the creams can
sometimes work, but really the best delivery method for testosterone is either an injection
and people can do them at home. Typically women do them once a week,
men do them twice a week, or pellets. Women prefer the pellets
a lot, because honestly, a pellet of testosterone for women is a glorified
grain of rice. It's tiny, it takes two minutes to insert, no
scar, no stitches or anything like that. Men it's a little bit more
involved, but some men prefer, particularly if they travel a lot. You're
climb pilots and things along those lines. But either of those are perfect and
people feel good with either method. Okay, Now, as far as fruit,
they want to know what fruits are good? What fruits are better?
I think the you want the higher fiber and lower sugar fruits, right,
yeah, the higher fiber, lower glycemic fruits, and the best ones on
that scale are typically melons and berries berries, So like blueberrimelon, watermelon doesn't
he okay, but candle oaps and honeydew things like that. And okay,
so strawberries, blueberries, strawberries, blueberries, raspberries, Yeah, they're great.
Okay, Okay, what about let's see they they want to Okay,
somebody wants to know about how do you how do you measure health over all?
Though? I mean is it are you concentrating just on the cancer in
the heart or can you improve total health? Well, you actually improve total
health, you can. And what we say the phrase is you're only as
healthy as your least healthy part. Okay. I have to go through and
analyze everything. I mean, how how healthy are you if you've got an
ankle that you can't walk on everything else worked you great? Right? And
how healthy are you if you can't breathe because you got untreated ASBA. So
we have to evaluate everything and that involves one test that involves brain tests that
involves blood tests, hormone tests, et cetera. Okay, we have a
question here about a rectile dysfunction. Do you hand like when people are in
your program, what do you not handle? I guess that's I guess I
could tell you what you don't handle. I don't think you handle. You
refer like back pain and pain, right, you don't handle back pain?
Right? Right? Okay, you know those things we can do and right
right, I don't think I can what We send them out and you help
me with exercise recommendations and supplements and that stuff I'm talking about. You know,
if you need a chiropractor, I mean, you go to a chiropractor
if you want. If you need surgery, you need surgery. But what
about like as far as at the clinic you don't handle? What would you
say you don't handle? If somebody has the flu and they're part of your
program, can they text you? Yes? Absolutely So as a concierge program,
we're available to people for whatever they need. So if people have the
flu, even though they're on a hormone program, we're happy to take care
of that issue for them. Okay, So it's it's a full service clinic,
but not primary care technically not technically, we asked that people have their
own primary care doctors that their insurance will pay for if they need it,
right, but our goal and prevent a medicine is they don't need that.
Okay, Well, anyway, we're out of time. Grossman Wellnes's two hundred
and forty nine bucks for the introduction. That's with blood work, consultation and
everything you need to get a snapshot of where you stand and then they make
recommendations. That's three oh three two three three forty two forty seven. What
anyway, we're not