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The following is a presentation of play
fly sports properties guys and trying to turn

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to the goal line. What's the
hands pass up up here? How's this

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fighting down the side? Guy down? That is hot? We had a

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couple of guys that cramped up in
the game, which is unacceptable. Had

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a you know, a couple of
situations where we had guys with hands on

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their hips, you know, in
the game, which is makes no sense.

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And uh, we have a standard
of performance, you know, that's

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uh, that's a high level.
We weren't at that level consistently in the

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game. We didn't play confimentary football
consistently in the game. So welcome to

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episode two of This is sparta I'm
your host, Jason Strayhorn and my co

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host here Otis Wiley and jay U
Colprik. How you fellas doing it?

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We're good Week one in the books. Ready for week two? Yeah you

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ready? We talked spartan football as
fartan anything. Last week was great,

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man. It was that first trial
where you know, we've been back of

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all season, off season getting ready
for this one. You know, all

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the stuff and the pieces you probably
felt it was coming together smooth, and

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then we got the win. Which
is always the top of the not strip

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with our question. I mean,
we just heard the words of head coach

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Mel Tucker as he broke down the
game, and he talked about the good,

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the bad, the ugly, you
know, things that had happened.

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Obviously, the injuries was we're gonna
get into later on in the show.

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But overall, you know, Michigan
State winners thirty five to thirteen over the

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Western Michigan Broncos. It was a
mere capacity crowd in the woodshed. Gentlemen,

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how was that? How was that
environment down there? Before we get

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into it, let's stop and let's
give Spartan Nation some credit here. Let's

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give on some credit. Spartan Stadium. The woodshed was absolutely electric Friday night

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and holiday. Yes, absolutely a
lot like that on a Friday it was

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in the keys. I mean,
obviously you could tell capacity of our freshman

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record breaking students that have been admitted, and then you got the sophomores.

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But you've never seen an all white
crowd. Kind of gave you that phiel

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Pitt State right right, oh yeah, all the way to the top.

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And I mean I think everyone's seen
on the social media of the pictures of

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the sea level on the stairs.
Yeah, the deep sea level is pretty

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dope. Yeah, you get down
there, like all right, now we're

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in the deep end, which is
great, and so I love the buzz

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and then the crazy rally tiles.
Man, you saw that, and that

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just electrified the whole entire night there. I mean, just a great atmosphere.

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Spartan Nation really showed out and just
I mean it really affect the ball

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game. That's one thing that's so
important about what you guys do in Spartan

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Stadium, in that woodshed and especially
in the deep end the student section,

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is you affect the game. You
make it tough for the opposing team,

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the other opposing quarterbacks to get those
calls out and defenses right. Yeah,

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it's truly, it's truly an added
advantage if you have a crowd that's live,

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electric like it is, it's it's
definitely placed into the home field advantage

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because as a as a former running
back, because often I remember being at

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Penn State, you know, seven
yards deep in the backfield and the quarterback

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turned around and you have to read
lips because you can't hear. So that's

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the added advantage that the twelve man
the deep end the Spartan Nation brings every

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single time they come into Spartan Stadium, and that's how it should be.

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Well, let's get into some of
the excess and o's of this form of

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this game that just passed, and
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right, guys, So a week ago,

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you had Western Michigan, as we
said, score thirteen points. Michigan

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State was at thirty five, but
in the fourth quarter was a much closer

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game had it was an eight point
game at one point in the fourth quarter,

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which brought a lot of people from
heartburn. Right, Oh yeah,

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I mean you think about the touchdowns
that we didn't capitalize on. And you

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saw Peyton Thorn addressing in the media
and the conference is that the press conference?

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You know he overthrew you know,
you read a couple of times where

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you know the timing where you think, you know, we've had a good

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relationship throughout this season. You threw
a key overthrew key on Kobe and and

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he addressed it where I think we're
going to see and I hope we do

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see more button up Peyton Thorn.
I don't think he was nervous. I

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think it's just a time of like, you just got to get the timing

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of me and this part as staying
with the pack field back in the atmosphere

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there. Yeah, it's it's it's
simple. You can you can work on

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all the routes on air, you
can work on it in practice against your

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own guys, but when you get
out there and you're playing a different opponent,

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you see things happen differently. There's
different types of movement that you might

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not prepare for, but it's all
going to come together. That chemistry between

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Thorn and its receiver is going to
grow larger, larger, and then grow

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closer and closer, and they're gonna
be in sync before we even hit big

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ten play. You know a good
point. I think there was some two

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things that could have been at play
with Peyton Thorn. Number One, he

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was playing against his father's team on
the other side, and it looked like

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he had some early jitters with his
footwork in the early parts of the game.

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The first couple of series he was
twelve to twenty four two hundred and

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thirty three yards for four touchdowns.
Now four touchdowns and a pick. Four

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touchdowns. Now he's the fourth game
for him at tyas Connor Cook for the

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most four touchdown ball games in a
career. Peyton Thorne is now at the

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top of that. He wants to
break that if he could against the akron

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Zips a week from now. And
the other thing that I thought was a

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big factor in him was that he
was not able to bail get himself bailed

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out by one player in Kenneth Walker, the third. You know, you

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had a running back by committee a
little bit with Jalen Berger and also Jared

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Brissard, the Killer Bees. The
killer I like that. Here we go

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Khiler Bees out there. Every running
back to committee you have to have an

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identity, you have to have some
type of nickname and three to have it

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right that Killer Bees, I mean
one hundred and seventy four yards between the

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two sixteen carries one hundred and twenty
yards for Jaalen Berger fit with Tim carries

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for fifty four yards for Bruzard.
How do they do in your mind?

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You know, I thought it was
a very good one two punch Berger Obviously,

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he's the more elusive one, the
one that's gonna, you know,

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have your long runs to speed and
Brusard he's gonna be one of the he's

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gonna be the pounder. He's going
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the ball between the tackles and uh, he's gonna get you those tough yards.

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But you know, I just feel
like overall, they have to grow

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confidence with their offensive line. They
have to learn to play off their offensive

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line. They have to learn Okay, my tackle likes to do this,

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and I'm gonna read off that and
that chemistry. Once that chemistry starts growing

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throughout the season, that's when you're
gonna see breakout games, especially from Berger.

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Oh that's a great point. I
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other receivers score and tight end scores
like you gotta read. That clearly has

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all the attention. But that gives
Spartanation some confidence in our offense that we

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have other guys. Now it's not
just a one to two by committee with

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Naylor and Reed. We have multiple
guys and your boy, you know,

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said Trey Moseley, Like, here's
this guy right now. You you were

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right. He was right, you
know, and did score up Tuddy and

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Kean Coleman man, like we just
saw Like, I mean, this guy,

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he's a freak freeze yeah, athletic
guy. That's the first word that

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comes to mind is just freak.
Yeah. I mean he had a press

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conference where he talked about, you
know, the fifty to fifty balls in

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his mind, a real one hundred
percent ball, I said, wold swag

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right there, that's a lot of
that's not a lot of confidence. You

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know. Now as a DV I'm
like, no, that's not true.

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But that's also yeah. But still
that's like side that guy. I mean,

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most defensive backs, I mean they
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two hundred and fifteen pound Keon Coleman. You no, man, yeah,

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speed, I mean he has it
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that. You see those guys we
talked about all levels they block so like

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once our running game, which you
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I mean, it's going to be
a lethal offense. He talked about how

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there were four different receivers that call
touchdowns. Talk about the transfer Daniel Barker

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in his first game in the Green
and White, the tight end transfer from

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Illinois catching a beautiful one handed grab
as we're gonna show right now into the

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deep end, deep end right by
the student section. What do you think

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about that play? We were on
the sideline, I think we were taking

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a picture at the time, and
then we were paying at But I looked

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and I thought it was really they
caught the past because it was a one

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hand It's so smooth and he comes
running off. I was like, man,

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that was our tight end. I
mean, those guys like you can

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tell. I mean he was a
he's a gamer. We knew we were

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getting when he transferred in. But
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threat in the tight end, which
we talked about the mismatches he can create.

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It's another element to our game.
So I'm I'm excited, man.

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Like that was even though we had
mishaps and there was mess ups, but

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positive in the offense. Man,
that's the kind of splash you want to

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make when you're when you come,
when you transfer into a new team,

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playing your first game at home in
front of that kind of crowd. You

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want to show out for Spartan nation
to say accept me. This is why

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I came to Michigan State to be
great. But I got to get on

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you guys for something. Oh what
what what? You guys lie to me?

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What I told you? I told
you you can never ever trust a

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kicker. We got to our kickers
did okay? Okay, look compared Maringer,

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he's so called a kicker slash punter. That's a defensive guy. That's

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a defensive, defensive defense, best
weapon. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah,

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fifteen point five yards. Yeah.
Oh, I'm all in on him.

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Okay, yeah, so we're talking
about Stone are we're talking just the kicker.

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You guys said, if he goes
anywhere on that field, you guys

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coined him as a next Sebastian Jenakowski
pretty much know we did. Anyway on

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the field, he's gonna if it's
over, he's gonna. He had the

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leg and he was perfect on his
p A T. S. Okay,

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he said, this is his first
games, true freshman. Give him some

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grace, let him work into it. He will. I know he missed

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one field goal, but that this
kid has the leg and he's got the

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boxy, So don't be so down
on Stone not yet. Give him some

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time. Jay, you no,
when he hit that the yard er,

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Yeah, you're gonna carry him off
like you and your pictures there you go

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get carried out here. That's awesome. Talk about young guys that are coming

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along. Talk about Jeremy Bernard,
how he caught his first touchdown pass in

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Spartan Stadium as a true enough slash
and all the way go like you can't

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picture that like any perfect Like as
a freshman coming in you obviously visualize making

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plays, but your first touch and
take it to the crib like I mean

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to be honest, it's not saying
like, hey, this is obviously I

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don't got to do nothing else,
but but yeah, you definitely care scripted

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and you set yourself apart from like
what you did in practice, which we

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saw and everyone's heard. This guy's
a dude. He goes right on Friday

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night and the jitla me showcases that
I'm not just no practice player. I

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could do it in the game,
didn't. We talk to coach Hockey in

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the parking lot before he said,
oh, he's gonna get some time.

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Yeah, it's gonna get some time. Yeah, you know, and for

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him, that's saying a whole lot. Coach Hawk is reserved, your spartan

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dog, and he's played in the
league. He understands how you know how

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to water you know, the freshmen
and grow them slowly, bring them along

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slowly. But you can see a
little twinkle in his eye about this one.

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Yeah, that's even special. Definitely. So you got a couple of

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special guys. And thank you Washington
who you're about to go to play Exceptember

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seventeenth, but oh yeah, shit, we appreciate appreciate that definitely. And

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the offensive line showed some positive signs
to me. They were opening up some

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holes. You know, it's not
like it was a year ago. Again

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with again we talked about K nine
being able to make plays may out of

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nothing. These guys had were able
to open holes for the Killer Bees and

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get some positive yards on the ground, which was much needed, and they

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were able to protect Peyton Thorne.
We'll talk more about you guys because obviously,

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as Xavier Henderson said, you're going
to go as far as the offensive

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line unit goes this year, as
far as what the season totals will be

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from Michigan State, but going to
the defensive side of the ball got some

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dogs out there, man. I
mean, there's so much talk about here

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in Unpacked, but when you talk
about the first game for one of the

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coaches, and that's the Brandon Jordan
effect and his debut. You know,

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he seems so calm and cool on
the sideline, chewing that gun with that

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tilover. He didn't bother him,
man, And he comes out and his

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guys the pass rush they total.
I mean he had one guy with four

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sacks, Jakobe Winlan, four sacks
only three weeks two, three weeks into

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the position and is the Walter Camp
Defensive Player of the week. Did you

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see his moves? Oh? How
can you block that? That move?

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When he that duck when he ducked
under that offensive lineman one for that?

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How can you how can you game
plan for that? If you're if you're

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a tackle, you're watching film.
The real question, though, before you

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go, the real question is are
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that though I'm cutting got moving right, I'm gonna cutting him carts one,

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two, three, cartet the man, I am not gonna be made a

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film real on look at this guy
wind. You know how coaches have that

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cowboy there rewind something and they don't
talk either because and then you're just sitting

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there like, no, I'm not
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him if I'm a back. But
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that every position on that line was
hungry to get to the quarterback. Oh

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yeah, Like it was a different
like we talk a reckless abandon They're going

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after it even if they don't get
home, they're spreading back into the huddles,

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getting back to the line, and
it's coming every time, one,

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two, three, every time.
And I think that's we talk about the

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Brandon Jordan Fair. Let's not forget
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Yeah, absolutely that Marco, all
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that that's a tribute to the I
call it the coach Tucker effect and that

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transfer portal that you know the guy
behind you is going to come in and

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ball out as well. They just
don't drop off. So when you're on

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the field, you do everything to
stay on the field. You're not going

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to loaf, You're not gonna do
anything to get off the field. Everyone's

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going to run to the football.
Eleven hats in the ball, hungry dogs

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run faster. Breaking news speaking of
that, the transfer portal just now this

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just then, Michigan State officially lands
former four star class of twenty twenty two

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defensive end Ken Tally from Penn State. That's like, that's like the NFL

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trade, like waiver wires. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they come in

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and you do a couple of practices
and go. But like, so that

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just happened. Do you attribute that
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and he the who's coaching that defensive
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those guys are eating out. He
has a benefits say, long enough to

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even know what's going on there.
So I just you know, you know

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the first part of your freshman year
where you get to get the blues and

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then things are hard to get the
poor knees. Right before, we didn't

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have the opportunity to transfer like they
do now, so it's easier, Yeah,

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it's much easier. And then you
have something enticing, like you know

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what's going on over here? You
see all the sack creations happening. Then

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what's going on in East Landsy with
Meltucker and his staff. Why not right?

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And you know that in that place
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playing a Friday night game, the
only game on the only the bright lights

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are on East Lanson. You're sitting
back if you're a college athlete, kicking

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back, watching out what's going on
here? Oh? Look at that?

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Who's that transfer portal? I didn't
play well last night, I didn't get

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any Let me, let me give
me that era and pdue. But it's

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like adversity hits. I mean,
we don't know the situation. We don't

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know, so like one, obviously, welcome to Spartan nation. Obviously we

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need more dogs, clearly that's what
we're here for too. But you talk

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about sacked by committee, there was
some solo sacks obviously with Jacobe, but

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there was some assists there to Yeah, like you talk about, it wasn't

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just one man right and shot at
all. Bobo, Yeah, big fellow

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transfer from Florida. He got in
anything he had to safety, safety coming

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out saved like Biscuit Man likes.
And that's I think every level you saw

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it was just hungry, even though
we we gave him some third downs,

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which clearly we need to correct from
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But you know, no one's satisfied, and even Coach Tucker, if it

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starts at the bottom, he's not
satisfied. Trickle down effect. Everyone's like,

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we can play better. We know
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Saturday you're gonna see a more buttoned
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score how much you said, what
was it? What was it? We're

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gonna hang forty piece on the forty
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win. We're gonna win by forty. Wow, that's a big statement right

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here. Cho cho about it now
with the way that Coach Tucker is,

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the way that the mindset of these
guys, and the way that they were

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after the game. They weren't happy
with their performance after the game. There

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wasn't any he he ha ha in
the locker room, no dancing, no

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dance like Mac Brown North Carolina after
video. Yeah yeah, yeah, none

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of that. So so I think
they're gonna come out ready to play and

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you know, hopefully Spartan staying over
the electric again. Yeah, but they're

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definitely I'm Tonia, They're gonna hang
a forty piece on Akron. Yeah,

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man, you talk about the other
production in the second level, the linebacker

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level. You know, you said
Aaron Brewle a he had a sack,

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he got in there. But then
you look at the production of Cal Holliday

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and Ben fan Suomering those two guys. Oh my god. Yes, it

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feels like it feels like you're playing
a video game. And he got to

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full out sprint, just holding down, lockdown everywhere. I mean, he's

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sideline. I told you sideline to
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he's just you can hear him,
you know, I'm sure Jay, you

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just heard people like payting that he's
on the neck. He's humming, he's

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humming. Oh, speaking of that, I do remember play when the quarterback

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from from Western was trying to roll
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was on him and you can hear
you know, I can. I knew

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we could hear him breathing. He
just took the slide like we're not gonna

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take any contact, not tonight.
No no no, no, no,

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no no no no. I'm gonna
say that that ice bad, right right,

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I want to play match in a
few weeks here. Yeah, But

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Cale Holliday was Cal Holliday once again. Ten tackles, two solos, eight

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assists. Van Simmern eleven tackles in
his debut as a Spartan to transfer from

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University of Michigan actually out there with
his younger brother who plays defensive tackle,

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and they had an assist on a
play, which was pretty neat to see

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two brothers making a tackle. And
as we continued, now, look,

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the one dark spot on the evening
was the injuries. The two injuries that

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happened, both on the defensive side
of the ball, one to Darius Snow,

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who was a leader, an emotional
leader on that defense. We talked

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about our last show, Is that
man? That was that It hurts.

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Obviously, we're former players and we've
had our injuries, and you know when

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it's a season ending. I never
had a season ending but for the first

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game, like you've you've built up
this this whole off season just for this

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season, just to go out that
way. Now, we know his heart,

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we know who he is, we
know that he's a team player,

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and he'll be bigger and better coming
out of that. But you know,

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it's sad that we lost not one
but two and you know X. I

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know X would come back stronger and
quicker as as soon as he's ready.

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But it was sad to see that. But you also know that the next

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man up too. And I think
everyone knows that this is a committee.

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We win by a committee, we
fall by a committee. So we got

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young guys that kind of had to
step up. And I mean X is

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a huge Both these guys are vocal
communicator leaders on our team too, And

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you talked about that like the safety
being a person who's the quarterback of that

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secondary right, So that's what you
played. Yeah, now you're going to

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see you know, X and Darius
probably man, they might be on headset

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just to help coaching these guys up
right, and which is it's good to

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be a cheerleader and be able to
support your team when you know physically you

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can't be the mentally you can always
be there. So I will see those

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guys. You know, you you
met some players we played with players as

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woe as me. You know it's
all about me, and I shouldn't be

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hard. I could be out there
doing this, but you're not gonna see

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that from those two guys. Those
guys are gonna step up and coach.

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Now you hear that a lot from
Mel Tuckery talks about those guys being very

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selfless players, and Jay, you
you know, you've been a part of

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a lot of teams and a lot
of players. You've seen this. Though

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in your opinion, does the loss
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I think at the at the very
start from obviously from the fans perspective,

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they see the production and the productivity
those guys bring every Saturday. You

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know, they don't see what goes
on behind the scenes, and I think

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that's why during the game it was
really a kick in the gut for the

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team, especially the defensive guys,
the guys who lean on those guys on

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the field to be their their quarterback
of the defense. But they're still gonna

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be in, like Otis said,
they're still gonna be in helping these guys

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south, you know, given they're
gonna be watching film, They're gonna be

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breaking film down. They might even
be in game plan sessions with the coaches,

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so they can be the coaches for
the players, you know, behind

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the scenes, because sometimes you can
take away things differently from a teammate than

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you can from a coach. So
I don't think it's gonna hurt any chances

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of the championship. You know,
x hopefully, you know, they say

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he's gonna come back this year,
So hopefully he does, you know,

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and come back at one hundred percent
and can continue. But I don't think.

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I think the intangibles that these guys
bring to the table is something that's

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not seen on field on Saturdays.
Good point, you know, and you

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think about what Mel Tucker says.
He does not talk about injuries at all,

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but he did, you know,
he doesn't want players talking about injuries

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or talking about anyone else on the
team. That's what he'll handle. We

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know that we have officially lost Darius
Snow for the season, and Xavier Henderson

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will come back at some point this
year. What's next for Michigan State?

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This week? Coming up a game
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