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It's just like the old radio show
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the mac of All Trade studio in
Fairport and driven by Victor Chrysler Dots Jube

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Bram. It's Bilified the Bill Moran
Podcast. Well, hello and welcome.

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Thanks for getting your pat on,
Thanks for telling a friend. That's how

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you spread the word one by one. I've been witnessing the people I've witness

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I've been putting like a little of
it. I've been putting those little cards

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inside Bible tracks of handling it.
If you don't like this, try Bilified.

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So here's satan. When you say
cards, do you mean the the

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QR code? Yeah? So uh. I also put a couple in the

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Wegman's ice cream aisles. There was
a guy that I knew years ago through

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radio, and he really wanted to
do a very cool thing. And I

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was young, and I was impressionable
by management at the time in radio.

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Some of us are still are.
Yeah, not that Moore. I basically

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this is really when I went,
oh, oh my god, I fucked

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up majorly. These young guys had
started the company and they wanted to come

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and take my three one five stories
that I was doing from the times of

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Wayne County and build a website three
one five dot com and animate them and

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put voices and stuff. So there
were other people we were going to do

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this, and the radio stations goes, we own everything you do. You

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can't do anything without our permission,
and no, no, no, because

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hey, this would be an outside
entity Jackson Jordan. So well, I

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pay the tuition. I think in
a better way would have been, Hey,

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let's see how we can make this
work. How do we make this

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beneficial for everybody? Right? And
I wasn't even looking for money. I'll

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just tell you, like, I
never did anything. This is kind of

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sounds so dumb. I never did
any of this for money. I did

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it because I loved it, right, It was never about money to me.

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And for a long time they're just
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When I did the entuned in concrete, somebody went through my contract because

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they were freaking out over me being
in there and what was going to happen.

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I they noticed that I had missed
a raise, like I had a

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contractual raise from the beginning of the
year. This was August or July when

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I did this, or was it. Yeah, it was like, but

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it was a raised. They hadn't
given it to me, so they gave

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it, but I never noticed.
My point is like, they could have

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come to me and said, hey, man, we're we're you know what

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any revenue will see. I didn't
care. It just would have helped build

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my you know, brands you it
brands you as a thing, and I

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was too afraid. So anyway,
many years later, I get a message

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from this guy great marketing and next
to the yurnal in iron smoke as arque

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he used me. He goes to
me, He's like, hey, I

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had to go and scan to see
what this was. Great marketing and that's

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so funny that you put it there. But it was this guy, Mike's

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s Dukeanko, and many many years
ago he had He was one of three

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young guys who were starting out at
their own company. And I don't know

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whatever it became in their company.
I think he's still in the tech world

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in some in some aspect, but
I wish I always kind of wish I

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had pushed forward with that, and
I think it would have been cutting edge

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for the time, the early two
thousands. It would have been cutting edge

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for the time, but whatever,
dude, let's do it now. Funny

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voice of them. I could be
the reporter. We could do ladies a

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gentleman, funny story. Dan also
put a camera and the women's so that's

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sick, you're that's disgusting. Uh. We don't know if they're women in

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twenty for the videos though, can
you? Um, can somebody connect to

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this because you're you're connected already.
H Um. I'm gonna just circle this

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phone number. Seeing can call this
guy an old friend of ours. Uh.

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I guess it's kind of a hero
from the break room days. We

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called him Simon de Grumpy because he
was always even had a hat made up.

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He had his own hat made up. I'm Simon de Grump from WCMF

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breakroom place. Like. That's awesome. I didn't. It is awesome anybody

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that was identifying themselves with us,
right, you know, and whatever stupid

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shit we were doing. I was
so impressed. We had protesters show up

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because they tried to add music to
the morning show. They didn't take us

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off the air, they didn't fire
at the least, want to add a

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couple of songs. No, we're
protesting. He was one of them.

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Simon, Hello, Hello, sir, while we are, I am well

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and Danny's here. And so I
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said, you know who's on the
podcast Bilified podcast with me? Dan Burrillo

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used to be on the breakroom.
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the corner doing something stupid? Yeah, I'm turning tricks for money. We

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needed I saw for sure by now, Billy to have you out there out

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busking or doing something. We had
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what you're doing the courthouse, Simon, I want to bring that. I

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was thinking about that today too.
We's gonna go. We gotta go to

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different courthouses, though we can't just
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the best. I was right,
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lives in Charlotte, which Simon,
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on its own. Yeah, so
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in the city, they've been having
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country. I don't want to target
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and even Berkeley Breen News ten NBC
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steal his Kia from the news.
Well, I know, but sometimes you

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just don't have the means, you
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just not that easy because let's say
you want to get out of you'll trade

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this one in. I don't know
everybody's taking it right. And we talked

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to Karen. He said, it's
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because they can't ensure them, right, Yeah, push pull or dragging

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in unless it's a kiel and just
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I laugh. Danny forwarded me a
tweet today that Simon dug Grump can you

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follow are you at Simon de Grump
on Twitter? Yeah? Okay? And

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the and the tweet said, ha
ha ha, I found a stashed keya

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this morning behind a local c store. Funny they parked at where the camera

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couldn't pick it up, reported too, and immediately picked up by at Greece

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Police New York. An hour later, the boys came back to get their

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stolen car. To their surprise,
it was gone. Uh and I'm sure

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there's more to this. How did
you just somebody stole? How did you

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find out? I would have paid
to see them go back there looking for

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that car? Yeah, I'm sure
it would have been hilarious. How did

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uh so tell me what went down? How did you discover this stolen car

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and realize it was a stolen car? It was coffee, mats false.

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I ran out of coffee, mate
this morning for my coffee, so okay,

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my coffee mar all right, Simon, I get that you're in out

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of coffee made? Okay, So
far, so good. So I happened

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my truck and I shoot up to
my little local growth er who happens to

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be in Grease. My part is
a lot borders with grease. Okay,

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So right up edge Mere, No, this is right up the nice road,

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oh, Denice. Okay, yep, okay, all the parts of

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the world, they say, Denise, I thought about the nice lived right

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down to god damn Freeville. It's
the nice okay, Denice. Yes,

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all right, let's let's just past
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and I got my coffee made,
hop back in my truck, and I

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proceeded to go around the building like
I normally do, and come out the

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other side, see you to join
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I made that turn, I almost
hit the black keys sitting in front of

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me. What the house is doing
here? Don belong here? So I

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went not finding a little bit of
a gratty knoll, and around it.

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I looked at the car. I
didn't see any broken windows or anything.

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It just seemed weird where it was
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Simon, I mean it was.
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in any specific parking spot, and
just yeah it was. So it stood

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out to you as to where it
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Yeah, okay. So I went
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and I told the clerk. I
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tur behind the um store. She
looked at her camera, she goes,

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no, there isn't a car there, And I just thought there is,

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but there is. So look,
I looked at the camera built there was

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no car in camera. So these
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the camera. That's a hard thing. So this almost sounds like it's somebody

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who is familiar with the someone who's
not twelve, well someone right, someone

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who's not twelve probably, and somebody
who's familiar with where the cameras pick up

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and don't pick up like we have
cameras in here, right, you can

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adjust them to all different things.
And you guys don't know when you're on

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camera or not on camera unless you're
looking right at you know, you see

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the red light light up. My
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has to see somebody from inside that
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cameras, don't you think? Well? I really I know because I actually

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later on in the day. Yeah, I actually saw all those three kids

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that went for that car, okay, And they were teams and none of

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them worked in the store. Okay, So I know we can eliminate bad

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thing as far as that camera working. I could pick that up with the

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owner o the store. I know
him really well. Yeah. I mean

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I supported it place that he's been
open for years, and I'm a normal

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support system for him. So wait, So, Simon, did you go

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back just to sit outside the store
to see if somebody showed up to try

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to find that car after it was
taken by the police. No, I

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went back to make sure the clerk
was okay to tell her about the car.

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She left the store, leaving the
inside and went to go see for

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herself if in fact there was a
car there. Yeah. Okay, Well,

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once she came back in, she
was shook and she saw the car

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and she says, what do I
do? I saw us blocking the driveway,

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your trucks come in today. You're
gonna have to call the police.

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And that's exactly what she did.
Say. So I wasn't there. You

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weren't there. You weren't there to
see all the action. But I thought

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I saw him one of your tweets, because you had a series of these.

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It was a great it was a
great story along the way. Uh

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what was it was? It's kind
of like it unfolded. You had a

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true crime podcast on Twitter, right, you know what I mean? And

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you went in there. But you
said that the clerk, when she saw

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the young kids show up, and
she saw them walking around the building,

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she locked the door. Yes,
that was right after the Grease police left

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with the car. Okay, so
I'm going to say within the hour that

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I was gone from that store,
the police that showed up showed the car.

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I went, that car was gone, and the clerk told me that

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the three kids that apparently or three
kids apparently, we're walking around the parking

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lot the store, and she got
nervous yeah, sure, because after you

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don't know, right, you just
don't know. Wow, exactly, So

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she locked the doors. Yeah that's
just great, that's fantastic yourself on safe.

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You did what you needed to do. So, Simon, did you

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ever find out if this car was
indeed stolen? Oh? It was because

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after she came back in and called
ninety one one before I left, I

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walked up to the car and looked
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the windows were broken, bell okay, but the column was definitely total.

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The column was ripped out. So
somebody out left their doors unlocked. It

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sounds like, well that or they
had the tools to get in. Jimmy,

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jimmy, but that seems a little
There were their plates in the car

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and then taking those off. Yeah, no, the plates were on the

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car. The car was in good
physical shape, good well body wise and

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inside, so damage was minimal.
Yeah. Wow, So somebody's going to

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get their car back and it's not
going to be as bad as everybody thought

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it would. See. Yeah,
well, look at you, Simon.

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You did something good today, buddy. I try to do something good every

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day, though it doesn't always work
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I understand that because you're a grump. That's why nobody stole your drump Nobody

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stow your drump ball wheel yet,
did they? No? No, No,

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you know, I'm an I'm in
a well protected area of the city,

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and I also have a lesson.
No, not true, Dan,

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I don't. I don't carry a
weapon. I carry a ninety pound pitfull.

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Oh wow, that's a weapon.
Yeah, can be weaponized. Let's

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put it that way. Uh,
Simon. I think it's great to hear

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you again, and I think it's
so cool that you did this, Billy.

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We got to look out for each
other, right, Yes, it's

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right. You know. I've always
told my kids be aware of your surroundings.

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If something doesn't look right and you
get home or you get to where

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you're going and you're still thinking about
it, yeah, something wasn't right,

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right, take action, make a
call, bringing somebody, let somebody else

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look at it. But do something
and get it off to your shoulders so

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you haven't got to think about it
nobody. Yeah, Well, that good

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advice, Simon. I appreciate it. And uh, we'll have to have

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maybe we find some way to incorporate
more Simon. You know, grump of

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the grump of them something like that. Yes, sir, I'm not a

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real big podcast you know, podcast
listener. Yeah, I'm not, okay,

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but I do enjoy talking to you
guys. It feels like a reunion

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of Stort. Yes, it does, you know. And I'd like to

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be uh more of a part of
that. All right, we'll make that

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happen, Simon. Seriously, thanks
guys. I appreciate it. I appreciate

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you out there. You got it. Yeah, you too, Thank you

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for keeping Rochester safe. We do
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We'll see you later, Simon,
have a good night too. So

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I was very active on social media. Yeah he is, like I see

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him on Twitter like all the time. Yeah, And I'm like, yeah,

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he's got a point. Every time
he's got a point. You know

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what happens now? All my my
top tweets when I open it up now

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are like, it was the kids
going crazy and McDonald's in LA where they

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jumped over the counter and they stole
the cash register. Yesterday, it's fights,

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it's this, and I go,
it's the Jerry Springer Show. I

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wind up leaving Twitter because I find
it repulsive, and I go, Twitter

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is more of a news feed where's
the goddamn new I must be following you

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all this stuff. I go,
I I absolutely hate it, So I

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either put my stuff up, and
I'm usually putting it up through a third

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party site, you know what I
mean. It's not like I schedule it

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all day, so it just goes
up. Uh. But you know,

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Kevin's kid is looking for a car. I don't know if you can get

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a good deal in a car.
Maybe he had one behind a quickie man.

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But Kevin said yesterday, he goes, I think my kid is getting

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scammed. No, I wanted to
make sure it wasn't a scammed sent me

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the message and what do you think
of that? Because he was I was

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actually happy. He was like,
what do you think of this? Before

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just jumping into it. So he
sent you an ad for a car?

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Yeah, right, And the car
in the picture looked to be too good

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for the price that was being offered. It was a two thousand and seven

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with like seventy three thousand miles silverado
Z something something something, and it was

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they were looking for twelve hundred bucks. And I'm like this, this can't

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be right. So I'm like,
it needs an engine, great body,

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but it needs an. It looked
great, it looked like it was in

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fantastic shape. I'm like, there's
got to be something wrong with if you

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want to do this, and we'll
figure it out. But we gotta go

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talk to either carm people or our
other buddy, Scott, who does works

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on cars, and see who knows
what's inside of this thing because it gets

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It's a little scary nowadays because you
never know. I mean, people are

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getting scammed all the time out of
houses, right. People are buying houses

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for people, but it's the people
are on vacation and they own the home,

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and now there's all kinds of legal
hassles with that. There's been a

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lot of problems with people scamming online. Definitely sold by house three times last

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month. Uh Fatso we had on
came in here one night he said on

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Facebook, my friend Mark scammed the
scammer. He got one of those we

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deposit money into your bank account scams. Then a few minutes later, using

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the numbers you just gave them,
they take their money back along with everything

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in your account. So my buddy
is on the phone with the scammers and

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in line at the bank they make
the deposit for twenty four hundred and he

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immediately closes the account. Lol.
That sounds impossible to me. YEA to

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immediately close that has a little made
up. But what was interesting I did

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see that there was a guy and
I'm gonna try to get him on the

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podcast. He was on the CBS
Sunday Morning Show and it was people pulling

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the scam they believed a scam from
like overseas, and there was something about

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the story that this guy. He's
like, I don't know, there's something

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about this not adding up. I
don't think this is a scammer. And

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it was somebody asking for help.
And so he winds up connecting with the

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guy writing a book, selling the
book and giving the guy the proceeds,

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and then he flies over to where
this guy is in Africa and sees the

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house that he built with the money
that he got from the book. But

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everybody had written him off as a
scammer. Then there was another woman who

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had a botched surgery when she was
young, and it was like obstructing her

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bowels and things, and she was
in a tremendous amount of pain. She

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wound up on one of these sites
that says she's a scammer. Stay away

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from her, and so she wants
He connects with her, finds out it

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is real, writes a book on
her behalf, and then helps her get

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the surgery she needs. Oh isn't
that weird? Like because we see these

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scams, but then so some woman
out of nowhere. I wrote on Facebook

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too, I won't advise anybody to
believe anyone after what I face, but

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I still believe the real ones are
out there, people who want to help

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you. I got help from Lewis
Underscore hack one oh one. I will

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not go to this page because I'm
wondering if her English is bad, so

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it makes me feel like maybe she
is a scammer. On Instagram, he

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helped me expose a fake profile.
He also helped me in getting a few

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percent of my funds back as well. You can reach him here on Instagram.

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Have you ever been scammed online?
Oh? Yeah, come on,

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you have. That's a stupid question, that's danny. Yeah, but not

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not to the point where I,
like, you know, like fell fall

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through. I've been cat When I
was single, I was catfished a couple

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of times. I mean it just
seemed like, I mean, I didn't

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go through with it, but I
figured out at least four um, you

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know, and I helped build a
couple of houses. Uh no, but

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yeah, I mean like people have
attempted the scammy, but I figured it

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out. So I did get scammed. H I got an email that came

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from the CEO of iHeart at the
time, Bob Pittman, and so I

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opened it and it says you need
to click here and do so. They

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were always sending these online trainings,
all these videos all the time, and

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I would always my Heart University.
Why I would alway be one of the

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last ones and go, hey,
if you're on this list, you're delinquent.

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We gotta get this in. And
I wandered painting the ass for the

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manager has to chase everybody around to
do this. So I thought, you

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know what, I'm gonna get on
this early and I click on it.

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And in the middle of this,
I was moving, right and so I

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had stuff in storage, and I
had all this stuff and the kids are

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all over the place, and I
get a call as I'm driving to from

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from iHeart, going, hey,
did you click on a that was a

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fishing scam? They got your bank
account thing and your next direct deposit.

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They were gonna be able to take
it right out. Wow. But they

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caught it. Oh, they caught
it. Market Polito told me this story

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about you once. Yeah, he
said, because I worked for a great

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company man, they found it.
They brought my money back. Yeah,

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yeah, they brought my money back. Yeah he was. He was talking

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about how you were like, so
scan I was. I was blown away.

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Well that was a previous going,
but I was blown away by the

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fact how the safeguards they had in
place, because I was dumb enough to

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believe. And when I clicked on
the thing, it's not playing, and

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I'm typing stuff in and I go, ah, forget it, it's not

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working. I don't know. I
thought it was a computer issue, so

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I just walk away, only to
find out it was a fishing scam.

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You gotta be careful with that,
guys. Also weight loss scams. Be

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careful. Oh yeah, yeah,
I was trying to buy some some gummies

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that help you lose weight. Yeah, you put your credit card number in

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all of a sudden, Oh,
it's cards to climb five thous I'm gonna

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get five hundred dollars charge for boner
pills. I'm my freaking and I get

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a text message from the credit card
company. Did you, like, did

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you buy Boner pills those gummies that
I see on like Instagram? Yeah?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Yeah. It wasn't on Instagram, but

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I was like, I followed a
trail. It was in an email.

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Yeah, but it looked like shit
because they had a whole story and everything

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else. Yeah, so that happened
to me. No scams for you.

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No, I'm not fit for that. But look, man, you know

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I'm trying to lose weight here.
I'm like, oh, it seems convincing.

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You get right on top of that
microphone, David, Um, who is

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this? This is Jesse Ware and
she's from the UK. Okay, Yeah,

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so she's pretty big right now with
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guess she doesn't go out to the
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I'd be the old guy in the
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I can't want to do it.
I'd be too old to be out.

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Hey you may Hey. I kind
of like it though. Yeah. She's

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very disco driven. Yeah, very
enjoyable. So I had a neighbor from

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Finland for a couple of years.
He would get all the remix import remixes.

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He invited me over ones. This
is a merry guy with three kids.

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Hey, you got to hear this
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go, the fuck is happening?
The fuck are we doing? And I

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went, I went and I listened
to it. Yeah, I had to.

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I had to. They're probably amazing
remis. They were great remixes.

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But then I would have parties right
in my backyard and stuff. He would

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come over and he would get sick
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would empty out. Like yeah,
I was just like, everybody laughed.

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Everybody laughed. David is here to
talk about the Trevor Project. Now,

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the Trevor Project. I don't know
that many people are know the ins and

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outs of the Trevor projects. So
let me see if I can explain it,

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and you tell me if I'm correct. All right, how would we

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do that one? Yeah? I
think it started in the late nineties and

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I was based on a show that
HBO was putting together about Trevor. Trevor

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was a thirteen year old boy,
I believe, who was conflicted with coming

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out as a gay as a gay
boy, and um, I think in

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the move it was I don't know
if this was based on a real story

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or if this was fictional, the
Trevor Trevor's story, but when they were

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telling it, they said, well, wait, a second. You know,

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there's going to be people who watched
this that are going to need help.

408
00:28:15,319 --> 00:28:19,039
And they did some research and they
found that there was nowhere for anybody

409
00:28:19,079 --> 00:28:23,359
who was having conflicted feelings and thinking
they were going to kill themselves to call

410
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:29,519
anywhere. So they started to really
help the acceptance of I guess you would

411
00:28:29,519 --> 00:28:33,839
call LGBTQ youth and they started this
line and it was the Trevor Lifeline.

412
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,759
But as Trevor, was that a
fictional story? I mean, I'm sure

413
00:28:37,839 --> 00:28:41,880
there's based on some truth. I
don't want to I don't want to minimize

414
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,039
that it was a fictional story that's
created, but yeah, obviously based on

415
00:28:45,599 --> 00:28:48,720
yeah, you know, well reality
of I mean, how many times have

416
00:28:48,839 --> 00:28:53,000
we not seen or heard something about
like like like that? So I mean,

417
00:28:53,279 --> 00:28:56,000
what is your involvement? How did
you get involved with the Trevor project?

418
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,160
Because this is the one you're talking
about, and I would assume,

419
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,559
like many chapters around the country,
this this one's local. Well, it's

420
00:29:02,759 --> 00:29:07,000
um an event that I'm doing through
work through West Elm and UM I got

421
00:29:07,079 --> 00:29:12,680
involved three years ago with work we
dont West Elm at the CALLH Road Armory.

422
00:29:14,279 --> 00:29:18,799
UM we do fundraising through our parent
company, Williamsonoma in four Trivor project

423
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,759
every year, and I was like, well, it's great to just ask

424
00:29:21,839 --> 00:29:23,400
people at the cash register, but
why don't we do something fun, have

425
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,680
an event and bring people to the
store, create something that's exciting. So

426
00:29:27,839 --> 00:29:30,319
that's what we did three years ago. So this is my third one.

427
00:29:30,599 --> 00:29:34,799
When is It is June twenty fourth, the Saturday Saturday up twelve to four

428
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,799
at the Call for Road Armory.
It's in um collaboration with the Mata if

429
00:29:38,799 --> 00:29:41,279
you've heard of that. The market
at the Armory. Okay, yeah,

430
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,680
so that's a lot of local vendors
and makers, but at the West Elm

431
00:29:45,759 --> 00:29:51,359
event there'll actually be LGDQ plus makers
and artists. So focuses on that and

432
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:56,359
we collect money for the Trivor Project. And then locally the Mocha Centers Center

433
00:29:56,039 --> 00:30:02,640
Centermocus Center is part of the Trillium
and that is Trillium health yep. Yeah,

434
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:10,279
and that is focusing on LGBTQ A
Bypac Bye byepac so about black Indigenous

435
00:30:10,359 --> 00:30:14,079
people of color. I did not
know that. Can you say that again?

436
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,400
And I'm not only just so I
can catch it by b I p

437
00:30:17,759 --> 00:30:26,039
oc so it's black indigenous people of
color. Interesting. So because yeah,

438
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,839
well we have heard often, right, where did download mostly come from?

439
00:30:30,279 --> 00:30:33,839
It was usually I thought, I
hope I'm not speaking out of it Kelly

440
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,680
that song. No, but I
well, against black culture. I think

441
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:41,599
it was most because the worst thing
you could I mean be in black was

442
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,960
it was a game black Man,
correct. Yes, Yeah, so I

443
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,519
think that's interesting. How important is
this for young people? Um, it's

444
00:30:49,559 --> 00:30:56,440
extremely important. They provide chat services
twenty four seven, three hundred and sixty

445
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,599
five days a year. They also
have hotlines you can call. They have

446
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:04,400
a safe space network that they call
the Trevor Space I Believe online and that

447
00:31:04,799 --> 00:31:07,799
is a social media place they can
go to and talk to Pierce. It's

448
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:12,599
focused on kids between the age of
thirteen to twenty four. Yeah, obviously,

449
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,960
you know when you start figuring things
out, figuring things out, who

450
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,880
you are? Can I put kind
of a human face on this and sort

451
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,319
of put you on the spot.
Sure, Okay, how do you identify?

452
00:31:22,839 --> 00:31:27,559
I am a gay assist male?
So I am the G part of

453
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:33,119
the alphabet of the LGBTQ. Yeah, and when did you know that you

454
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,720
were gay? I knew pretty young
um, I would say, obviously,

455
00:31:37,039 --> 00:31:40,880
you know, once you have puberty, you kind of understand that you feel

456
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,720
differently. But you know, I
just knew that I was different. Probably,

457
00:31:44,839 --> 00:31:48,480
I would say I noticed around like
nine ten, okay, around there,

458
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,400
yeah, yeah, that's and I
started, you know, having feelings

459
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:56,319
towards you know, friends or boys
instead of like where all my other friends

460
00:31:56,359 --> 00:32:00,200
were like thought girls were attractive or
had feelings sorts them. And I was

461
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,079
like, oh my goodness, this
isn't this isn't okay. Because I was

462
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:07,119
born in eighty two, so I
forty one this year, so it's um.

463
00:32:07,839 --> 00:32:08,720
Back then, it was like no, no, no, you can't.

464
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:13,559
Lots of shame and shunning and it's
not discussed. And I grew up

465
00:32:13,559 --> 00:32:15,920
in a rural area. I grew
up in that era. And what area

466
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:20,240
did you grow up in. I
grew up in Cohocton, Southern Tier.

467
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,480
Southern Tier. Yeah, you're in
Creek. And I was down in a

468
00:32:23,519 --> 00:32:30,200
place called Pine Plains, which is
the was I think it still is the

469
00:32:30,359 --> 00:32:34,519
largest school district in New York State
for square mile Okay, with the smallest

470
00:32:34,559 --> 00:32:37,839
population I think we had. It's
like the Wyoming of New York. I

471
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:42,240
just I'll just give you the I
think we had sixty five kids graduate in

472
00:32:42,359 --> 00:32:45,920
our class, my class, so
I don't know co Hocten was similar to

473
00:32:46,039 --> 00:32:49,920
that or not. I have maybe
a little bigger dirt in sixty eight,

474
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,000
but I was well, still small
emerged. Yeah, so it still small.

475
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:57,519
You know it's from Cohocten. Is
mankind mcfoley the wrestler, he's from

476
00:32:57,599 --> 00:33:00,359
Cohocton. Oh is he really?
Yeah? I did not locked it?

477
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,799
Yeah. Uh so who did you
come out to first? I mean,

478
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:07,279
here, you are in a rural
community right where football rules, I would

479
00:33:07,319 --> 00:33:10,720
assume, yeah, yeah, right, and all the sports, all the

480
00:33:10,799 --> 00:33:15,359
sports, and you're not are you
interested in sports? Just because you're gay

481
00:33:15,359 --> 00:33:19,559
doesn't mean you don't like sports.
Um. I enjoyed soccer and swimming,

482
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,200
those are the ones, okay.
And my family was big into baseball.

483
00:33:22,279 --> 00:33:23,519
And I was like, I tried
it and got hit in the head and

484
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:28,200
that I knew that wasn't for me. So see, I tried it,

485
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,640
I get hit in the head.
I kept going, but I was afraid

486
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,119
for the rest of my life,
but I kept forcing myself to do it.

487
00:33:34,319 --> 00:33:37,240
It's a great answer, But who
do you come out to first?

488
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,279
My best friend in college at the
time, Emily, I was twenty.

489
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:45,000
Okay, did Emily already know?
Could she? She? At first she

490
00:33:45,119 --> 00:33:47,799
thought I was telling her that a
cross on her. She like was worried

491
00:33:47,799 --> 00:33:51,039
about that. But then once she's
like, okay, I wasn't sure I

492
00:33:51,119 --> 00:33:52,119
was. He was gonna go either
way, she was, you know,

493
00:33:52,359 --> 00:33:55,200
but that and that was it.
So then once I did that, it's

494
00:33:55,279 --> 00:34:00,079
a huge relief when you finally tell
someone and let it out and get some

495
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:04,920
of that pressure off of your chest. Did you then tell family as well?

496
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,880
Yes, and now are um I
told my mother first and my siblings.

497
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:12,320
That was fine. Um. I
The last person I told you was

498
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,199
my dad and he's like, yeah, I was just waiting for you to

499
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:15,920
tell me, so he knew,
yeah right, yeah. Um. And

500
00:34:16,039 --> 00:34:21,840
my mother's experience was a little different
because when I did come out, she

501
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,840
was very concerned about me getting HIV
and AIDS because like that was you know,

502
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,679
back then, and especially in that
you know, or late nineties,

503
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,960
early two thousands, prep didn't exist
yet, so you know, it's still

504
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,320
people could die from. Yes,
she was very concerned about when your dad

505
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:44,440
said to you, I was waiting
for you to tell me. Do you

506
00:34:44,559 --> 00:34:45,960
wish he came to you at any
point and said, hey, man,

507
00:34:47,039 --> 00:34:51,519
I don't want you to feel uncomfortable. Here's some things that I don't know

508
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,159
because I look, I'm a dad
of three guys. Yeah, I don't

509
00:34:54,159 --> 00:34:58,039
know that I would do that.
I have no idea. I'm just asking

510
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:04,920
from your perspective living with this feeling
conflicted. I'll tell you what. So,

511
00:35:05,079 --> 00:35:09,960
you're about eleven years younger than I
am. When I was, it

512
00:35:10,119 --> 00:35:13,599
was more of the eighties, so
I would have been in like junior high

513
00:35:13,599 --> 00:35:16,320
and stuff. When you were born. The worst thing you could have been

514
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:22,880
in the locker room was gay,
and we made like you're gay. I

515
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:27,320
mean that was yelled at people.
Right m You're in the showers and you

516
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:31,480
know everybody's there's all kinds of pressure
there, so you kind of I mean,

517
00:35:31,599 --> 00:35:36,000
that's a tough thing to swallow when
you realize you're like, I got

518
00:35:36,039 --> 00:35:38,480
this secret, I can't let anybody
know. Yeah, yeah, that's a

519
00:35:38,519 --> 00:35:42,079
difficult. I mean I was,
you know, teased, I don't have

520
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,320
you know, my gesticulations and my
voice aren't the most masculine at times,

521
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:50,119
so they would, you know,
target that and tease me for it,

522
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,039
you know, physically in the bathrooms, the locker rooms, hallway, et

523
00:35:52,079 --> 00:35:57,599
cetera. But as far as you're
an answer to that question about my dad,

524
00:35:57,679 --> 00:35:59,760
I don't know. Like I never
really thought about it. Yeah,

525
00:36:00,199 --> 00:36:01,679
I don't know either, And I
only thought it because the way you said

526
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:06,199
he said, and I thought,
boy is a dad myself. Would I

527
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,400
have been a I don't know.
I don't It would have been good to

528
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,639
go to the kid and say,
hey, yeah, I know, I'm

529
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,159
sure this is a struggle, and
I want you to know you're loved and

530
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,119
I got you in whatever. But
I don't know what the right thing is.

531
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,199
I think most parents, like nowadays, what I would say to them

532
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,880
is if they're not sure, just
and you know, I wouldn't say,

533
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,679
like, be totally direct about it, but like, if the conversation came

534
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:30,440
up, or if you're talking about
or you see it on TV or just

535
00:36:30,639 --> 00:36:35,400
in passing conversation, just express your
support for those types of people in that

536
00:36:35,599 --> 00:36:39,519
area. That's a good point.
They just know, yeah that if they

537
00:36:39,639 --> 00:36:44,360
are, they kind of come to
you because you're an ally essentially, So

538
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,800
don't turn your kid and go you
want to kiss a boy? It could

539
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,760
be the opposite. Your father could
come to you Dan, Do you like

540
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,519
girls? Yeah? What's why?
What's the problem? I never see you

541
00:36:53,599 --> 00:36:57,400
with one? I go because I
don't know. You have me working seven

542
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,760
days a week, when would I
have time? Dad? Oh, so

543
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:01,639
you like girls? Yeah? I
had a girl from high school? Did

544
00:37:01,679 --> 00:37:05,119
we forget this? Are you okay? Do you need to go to a

545
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,800
doctor? He was like relieved.
I'm like, what do you relieve?

546
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,760
The bottle? There's like, dude, I'm fine, everything's cool. Well,

547
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,039
you know you know what I mean, like, you know, you

548
00:37:14,119 --> 00:37:17,440
know, have you ever helped others
come out? Um? Me personally?

549
00:37:17,639 --> 00:37:22,559
No? No, I have not. The big thing I guess with that

550
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,800
at least in you know, gay
culture is like, it's not our story

551
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:30,320
to tell. We'll support people if
they tell us, but it's nothing that

552
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,760
we would ever tell anyone because we
don't out with people. Do you feel

553
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,159
like people need to come out?
Because I mean, like, when you

554
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,599
think about it in a way,
it's really not anybody's business. Yeah,

555
00:37:39,679 --> 00:37:43,400
I mean you know what I'm saying, Like, if someone doesn't want to

556
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,000
come out, is my point,
why don't we? I you know,

557
00:37:46,159 --> 00:37:49,880
then then they don't. That's all
right, Yeah, I don't. I

558
00:37:50,039 --> 00:37:52,760
think it's um, it's interesting.
I think that option should be there,

559
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:59,239
and it should be. But if
someone chooses not to disclose their sexual orientation,

560
00:38:00,679 --> 00:38:04,199
I think that's fine. I just
would hope that they could be happy

561
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,400
in their authentic self, don't matter
the situation. Well, you know,

562
00:38:07,679 --> 00:38:10,000
it was interesting. There was a
thing I've been on the radio for a

563
00:38:10,079 --> 00:38:14,280
long time prior to do in the
podcast, and Danny and I were on

564
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:19,039
a show together back in the mid
two thousands, and we had heard a

565
00:38:19,199 --> 00:38:24,079
story about guys would go to the
local parks and they would back their car

566
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:29,199
in and that was more on the
downlow. Yeah, and so we thought,

567
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,880
why don't we go and have a
contest to see which one of us

568
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:37,519
could get hit on first, Which
it's funny in theory, except when you

569
00:38:37,639 --> 00:38:42,199
put a face to it a little
bit and sort of shaming people like,

570
00:38:43,079 --> 00:38:45,920
Yeah, I didn't think of it
that way. I just thought it would

571
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,159
be kind of funny. Hey,
you know, because I always said to

572
00:38:47,199 --> 00:38:51,079
people, look, if you get
hit on by anybody, any human being,

573
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:53,960
exactly, it's a compliment, right
right, Hey, that's a nice

574
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,039
thing. Yeah. They were brought
in the guy who actually told me had

575
00:38:57,079 --> 00:38:59,360
a crush at me. I was
like, oh, wow, ladies.

576
00:39:00,679 --> 00:39:07,280
But so, um, I guess
with with that particular part or I don't

577
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:12,320
know how to say it, scene
in our community is that that is definitely

578
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,719
a down low area and that's what
you know, especially gay men used to

579
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:21,159
have to do all the time,
all the time. So that's still part

580
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,519
of kind of like our culture,
and some people enjoy it, but there's

581
00:39:23,559 --> 00:39:29,599
also people that are very much on
the down low. Um so so so

582
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,920
here was one of the thing that
I walked away from this experience with and

583
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,719
it made me feel really bad.
Yeah. There was another guy who had

584
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,400
backed his car and he was with
us and an older gentleman back to his

585
00:39:40,519 --> 00:39:45,800
car in and he says hey,
and our friend says, I'm waiting for

586
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,320
my wife. We're gonna walk our
dogs. And he goes, oh,

587
00:39:50,079 --> 00:39:52,760
and he said you go well first
he said, I'm sorry, I'm married,

588
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:57,199
That's what he said. And the
guy said me too. He was

589
00:39:57,199 --> 00:40:00,079
an older gentleman. Yeah, And
that was the thing that I went and

590
00:40:00,119 --> 00:40:04,679
you could never be and you just
said it your authentic self correct, and

591
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,760
so many lives would be ripple,
like have a ripple effect. Yeah,

592
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:13,320
I don't. You know, I
think most people you could kind of tolerate

593
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,719
it, but it'd be hard.
Right. He had looked like he may

594
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,199
have had grandkids at this point in
his life, and you go, man,

595
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,480
you could never be who you were, so you came here and in

596
00:40:22,559 --> 00:40:27,719
a way you're putting yourself at risk
because you don't know who you're hooking up

597
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,679
with it And I'm not even saying
aid it's just an STD at all that

598
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:34,519
you bring home or whatever. And
I went, how sad is that?

599
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,880
Now? This was an older guy
and I only say that because he grew

600
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,280
up in the time or it was
way worse. It was never even talked

601
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,960
about. You. I don't think
it was ever talked about. And so

602
00:40:43,639 --> 00:40:46,320
I think all this stuff is good. Like the point of life is to

603
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:51,719
be happy, right, That's what
I believe, And so if you can't

604
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,960
be yourself, how can you be
happy? But once you come out,

605
00:40:54,599 --> 00:40:58,639
is that when the real work starts? Or is it actually easier in life

606
00:40:58,679 --> 00:41:01,400
in general? I think it's kind
of both. Unfortunately, coming out once

607
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:07,719
as never something that doesn't stop.
You come out all the time continuously at

608
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,199
work, People like, oh,
you know, are you married? Do

609
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,760
you have a wife, do you
know you have kids? You know,

610
00:41:13,519 --> 00:41:15,599
you know, things like that.
So it's an you're always coming out every

611
00:41:15,639 --> 00:41:20,599
single day, depending on if you're
meeting new people, you're starting a new

612
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,440
job, etc. So it's not
something that kind of ends. And as

613
00:41:24,559 --> 00:41:29,039
much as we would like to,
I guess that the word is tolerance right

614
00:41:29,119 --> 00:41:34,000
there seems to be more tolerance and
acceptance any easier, um, I think

615
00:41:34,079 --> 00:41:36,599
depending on where you live. Yet, I mean, obviously being in New

616
00:41:36,679 --> 00:41:40,199
York stay as much better for a
lot of us at this time, especially

617
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:45,400
with how our world's turning right now. But it, you know, I

618
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,000
think it still is. We had
a lot of work to do, and

619
00:41:47,519 --> 00:41:51,559
I myself, as a white sist
male, understand that I have a lot

620
00:41:51,599 --> 00:41:53,280
of privilege, you know, even
as a gay mail it is, you

621
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:57,079
know, that's what you see on
TV now. You see white rich gay

622
00:41:57,119 --> 00:42:00,679
men. You know they look amazing
and you know, but you don't see,

623
00:42:01,119 --> 00:42:05,719
you know, the feminine ones.
You don't see as much of you

624
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,199
know, any other. Well,
I'm trying to think of like in media

625
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,559
once and I'm not even thinking so
much from entertainment. But you've got Anderson

626
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,119
Cooper, who Champion, Sam Champion, the weather guy, he was the

627
00:42:16,199 --> 00:42:22,000
weather guy for ABMs. Yeah America. Yeah he's gay. Oh yeah,

628
00:42:22,159 --> 00:42:24,239
I didn't know that. Well,
there were there were limos by him and

629
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:28,159
a very famous baseball player. I'm
not gonna say who it is because like

630
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,400
there's no proof of that. And
then uh, the guys and Food Network

631
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,519
that was on quer Eye. I
can't think of his name. No,

632
00:42:34,679 --> 00:42:38,519
Carson Cresley, he just chopped,
okay, and then who does all the

633
00:42:38,559 --> 00:42:43,559
housewives stuff? And Andy Cohen?
Yeah right? And then Andy's just written

634
00:42:43,559 --> 00:42:45,760
another I think he put out it
has another book coming out, My Diaries

635
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:50,199
or something or for a year of
being a single dad, right right?

636
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,719
And yeah, Dave Rubin from the
Daily Wire he's gay. So it's what

637
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,960
you see the most in media and
even now with like sports we were coming

638
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,920
out are though, white nailed,
sis looking males, you know, the

639
00:43:01,039 --> 00:43:04,960
quarterbacks or whatever people are playing.
You know, I don't know what position

640
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,840
they are, but like I apologize
defensive I think I think no, it

641
00:43:09,119 --> 00:43:13,079
was the kids from the Raiders,
it was it was, um, yeah,

642
00:43:13,079 --> 00:43:15,239
I played defensive ends still in the
league. Right, But they're I

643
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:21,320
mean, they're they're the atypical male
looking like they looked. Yeah, they're

644
00:43:21,519 --> 00:43:24,559
either very masculine, you know,
presenting things like that. What does SIS

645
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:32,360
mean? Sis means that I identify
with the sexual organs that I was born

646
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:37,360
with, So I sist male.
So you don't know to me, like

647
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,159
you knew Kevin, you didn't know, or did you? I did?

648
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,800
Okay, I don't know that I
knew. I don't know that I knew.

649
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,239
I think I always took it as
I don't know why it meant typical

650
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:51,000
to me, like tip I was
gay, being I'm gay, I have

651
00:43:51,119 --> 00:43:53,239
these parts. That's how I took
it. But I sis male can be

652
00:43:53,639 --> 00:44:00,159
anyone who has you know, a
penis. Rightly that's what they done by

653
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:04,079
with. But you know that changes, it depends on And that's where I

654
00:44:04,199 --> 00:44:06,920
like, I don't talk about it
a lot because I'm not transgender or I

655
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,639
don't I'm not non binary and all
that stuff. So I'm like, I

656
00:44:08,679 --> 00:44:13,559
don't want to say the wrong thing, but um, but that's what this

657
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,239
means. Yeah, identify anatomy as
malet Does it make you nervous that,

658
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:22,079
like all of a sudden, now
you have to tiptoe around people saying the

659
00:44:22,199 --> 00:44:24,800
right or wrong thing. Um,
I think, I mean, I think

660
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:30,280
I can, and I think it's
definitely important to use the right terms and

661
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:34,719
try to understand where they're coming from. I think the biggest thing is when

662
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,760
someone corrects you or like if you're
saying something and you say it incorrectly,

663
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:42,440
is to apologize and say I didn't
understand that. I'm sorry. Um.

664
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:49,119
Also, you know some people get
offensive of defended or right like. That's

665
00:44:49,199 --> 00:44:52,840
not you know, it's first of
all, it's not their job to educate

666
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,360
you, you know, but if
they correct you, it just depends on

667
00:44:55,440 --> 00:45:01,000
the situation or what was said.
I suppose. But um, if they

668
00:45:01,079 --> 00:45:05,639
correct you, just take you know, apologize and say I didn't realize that.

669
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,360
I apologize. I didn't mean to
offend you. I don't, you

670
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,239
know, Let me look, let
me look into this. Just educate yourself

671
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:14,760
on it. So I always figured
this way, Like you said before,

672
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,119
you gotta be comfortable in your skin. You want me to refer to you

673
00:45:16,199 --> 00:45:21,880
as they, then she I don't
care. What I'd rather do is have

674
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,719
a conversation about something that is more
of you know, what I'm saying,

675
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:30,159
Like whatever we're talking about or whatever
if we're talking sports or if we're talking

676
00:45:30,679 --> 00:45:34,199
politics or whatever, that's it.
I don't care front you know, and

677
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,039
bring your point of view. Yeah
right, bring your a point of view.

678
00:45:37,119 --> 00:45:38,960
But I always think that we don't
get down to the brass tacks.

679
00:45:39,039 --> 00:45:43,719
We get caught up in the other
stuff sometimes. Yeah, in schools and

680
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:45,599
the politics. It's like come on, well it said, you know a

681
00:45:45,679 --> 00:45:50,119
lot of it is distraction plays.
But you can go down yes, yes,

682
00:45:50,199 --> 00:45:52,239
one, And I'm glad you said
that. So the Trevor Project is

683
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:59,559
West Elm Saturday, correct noon to
four. Ye what happens? So we

684
00:46:00,079 --> 00:46:01,880
you have two drag shows going on
that day. You have a DJ,

685
00:46:02,119 --> 00:46:07,039
will have local makers like I discussed
we have twigals donate a bunch of hot

686
00:46:07,079 --> 00:46:10,599
dogs. They'll have that going on. Um local you know, local makers,

687
00:46:10,679 --> 00:46:14,800
people selling stuff and just people having
a good time. And then you

688
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:19,559
can do donations. Also have a
raffle going on where a lot of local

689
00:46:19,639 --> 00:46:23,119
businesses and people donated products and gift
cards and things that you can wrap purchase

690
00:46:23,159 --> 00:46:27,280
tickets to actually win. Yeah,
and then the money goes to the Trevor

691
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,639
Project, correct, right, yea, And is there is a chapter here.

692
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:35,280
I know part of what you said, what's Trillium Health. Trillium Health.

693
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,800
Yea, as far as a chapter
here in Trevor Project, I'm not

694
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,320
entirely sure. I'm assuming they have
a local representative in there. Either way,

695
00:46:40,599 --> 00:46:45,039
these things don't run on air so
as much as they need them.

696
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:46,639
Well, it's nice you to come
in. And I don't want to say

697
00:46:46,679 --> 00:46:52,760
too much, but you're going to
be potentially part of another podcast that we'll

698
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,679
produce out of here, and we'll
be doing some stuff in the near future.

699
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,719
I think it'll be great. Yeah, I look forward to it.

700
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:05,719
Well, I watched was on a
zoom call with David and Jake and who's

701
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,000
the Shannon. Yeah, well I
know Shannon a Rema I've never met,

702
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:14,960
and there was some really really funny, funny stuff and you guys are all

703
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,400
real tight and it looks like it
could be a really great podcast. So

704
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:22,760
we'll see how all that goes.
Well, thank you, and I appreciate

705
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:24,960
you coming in. We will take
a moment. There's a submarine that's missing.

706
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,119
Now feel free to stay if you'd
like, or if you want to

707
00:47:28,159 --> 00:47:30,199
go, you whatever you want to
do. You can hang and and uh

708
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:35,039
whatever you're comfortable with what we're going
to talk about though, is the submarine

709
00:47:35,079 --> 00:47:38,679
that's missing. I'm gonna play you
some audio from somebody who went on that

710
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:43,039
submarine, and then we're gonna talk
to a guy down in Florida who I

711
00:47:43,119 --> 00:47:46,960
actually caught on CNN this morning talking
about this, and uh, we'll see.

712
00:47:47,079 --> 00:47:50,719
I mean, this is a rich
people thing and it's private enterprise,

713
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,800
but it isn't looking so sometimes you
don't get what you pay for. Billy

714
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:58,800
Victor, Chrysler, Dodge, cheap
Ram there, you'll get what you pay

715
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for. You're gonna find them on
a ROUT ninety six in Victor, and

716
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they have the inventory to get you
exactly what you need, but more importantly,

717
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exactly what you want, absolutely right. So you get when you can

718
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get your needs and your wants met, that's when you really have life going

719
00:48:10,639 --> 00:48:15,480
well. How about a twenty twenty
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720
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721
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722
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and this deal is only valid until
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723
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724
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728
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and you got a mouthful over there. Kevin picked it up. It's we're

729
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taping this on Tuesday, and on
Tuesdays you can get a large woodfire pizza

730
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with one topping for ten bucks.
And they got those Pepperonis. The one

731
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,159
it was a couple of bucks more, but there's two on this one.

732
00:49:04,159 --> 00:49:07,000
Becau, Oh man, I have
a great guy. I haven't had a

733
00:49:07,039 --> 00:49:08,480
piece. I was holding off because
I was talking, you were molding.

734
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:16,480
I got here. Yeah, I
dinner, so I because I've been trying

735
00:49:16,559 --> 00:49:21,320
to keep myself. But the bTB
pizza I'm gonna have to crack because it's

736
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,719
so good. And look in June
they got all kinds of really great specials

737
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:27,360
out there. We had like you
missed out, buddy, I heard you

738
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,599
missed out on the chicken French mel
I know how good Kevin. I was

739
00:49:30,599 --> 00:49:32,760
gonna get another one today and I'll
tell you what that traveled because we're on

740
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:37,400
the east side. That traveled and
they hadn't made a stop prior to that,

741
00:49:37,599 --> 00:49:40,280
and it held up. That is
a phenomenal sandwich that they do out

742
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743
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you about that. It's got pineapple, lemonade, grenadine. Of course,

744
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some vodka and rum in there and
then but really everything at bTB is fantastic.

745
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746
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How great was that? I think
tomorrow tonight, Wednesday is burger not

747
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anything y. You got taco Tuesdays
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748
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again a large pizza one topping ten
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749
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on Sunday with buy one, get
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758
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Chelsea Lately. She was on the
Roundtable a lot. She was also a

759
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writer on the show as well as
a producer. And then she was a

760
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writer in the star of a spinoff
of Chelsea Lately. That was a scripted

761
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show called After Lately. And she's
currently starring as Angie in Netflix hit show

762
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Insatiable. Huh Yeah, So if
you check that out you will see her

763
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there. She's written two books,
Life is a Blow It and has anyone

764
00:51:13,119 --> 00:51:16,280
seen My Pants? Wow? She's
funny, smart, and I would say

765
00:51:16,519 --> 00:51:20,679
this is a mustcy show. Have
you guys ever dated somebody that you didn't

766
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:24,480
like? Yeah, everybody's done it
right a couple of times. Not for

767
00:51:24,639 --> 00:51:31,599
long, just for like three years, I guess. I'm lazy. It's

768
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so hard to break up with somebody
after you've been dating them for three years

769
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,880
because if you don't like them and
you can't do say, they want a

770
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:42,719
reason. Obviously they want a reason
you have you have after three years.

771
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Somebody wants a reason. You can't
be just like, oh, I don't

772
00:51:44,599 --> 00:51:47,360
like you, because then they're gonna
be like, well, when did you

773
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stop? And you're like, oh, I never started. Sarah Colonna and

774
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by the way, her husband,
Yeah, former NFL punter Super Bowl champion

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On Ryan won a Super Bowl with
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777
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with us. In my dreams,
I see a little bye who is high

778
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know you don't script the hooks pipe, the glasses going down Lake Avin every

779
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:59,280
once in a while. Ocean Gates
is the submarine that's missing. Ryers reports

780
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,639
that the five per and crew of
the missing vessel, known as Titan,

781
00:53:04,599 --> 00:53:10,719
includes Hamish Harding. Hamish is a
British billionaire and an adventure enthusiast. Ocean

782
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:16,360
Gates founder and CEO stocked and Rush
and it disappeared Sunday while on an exhibit

783
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:24,519
exhibit expedition to explore the Titanic ship
or ex site after losing contact with the

784
00:53:24,639 --> 00:53:30,760
Polar Prints research ship roughly an hour
and forty five minutes after their dive began

785
00:53:30,199 --> 00:53:35,920
a three hour two hours. So
the submarine. I'm gonna play you some

786
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,360
audio and then we're gonna talk to
Rick. Mrkar I saw Rick on CNN.

787
00:53:39,599 --> 00:53:44,039
Rick is a kind of a diving
specialist, and we'll talk to him

788
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:46,960
in just a couple of minutes.
But I thought we'll go through this first.

789
00:53:47,519 --> 00:53:52,320
CBS Sunday Morning is a show I
really enjoy and I actually caught this,

790
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:58,800
and they went out on ocean Gate. Uh so they take an oil

791
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,880
rig from Newfoundland and they go out
to the shipwreck site, which I think

792
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:08,840
takes about two days to get there. Oh yeah, So where this submarine

793
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:15,559
the titan is right now missing?
They're saying, is the size of the

794
00:54:15,559 --> 00:54:20,519
state of Connecticut is the area that
could be right now, I'll play this,

795
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,320
we'll go I've pulled a bunch of
different segments. We'll go through a

796
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:28,000
kind of segment by segment, just
so you can get a better idea as

797
00:54:28,039 --> 00:54:32,000
to what ocean Gate is trying to
do and what the titan the submarine is

798
00:54:32,079 --> 00:54:36,639
really like. For the most part, the only people who've ever seen the

799
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:42,360
Titanic since that night have been scientists. Until now. It's a very unusual

800
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:46,880
business. It's its own category.
It's a new type of traveled Stopped in

801
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:52,000
Rush is the CEO of Ocean Gate, a company that dives to the Titanics

802
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:58,639
in a one of a kind carbon
fiber submersible for two hundred and fifty thousand

803
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:05,320
dollars per person, quarter million dollars
of person to die. It's cheaper than

804
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:10,320
going on show. Okay, so
this was exactly what I was thinking.

805
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:15,239
We have gotten to the point now
where this is private enterprise and what they're

806
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:20,800
not doing at the Titanic site,
which I think people thought they were doing.

807
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:22,599
They're not disturbing it. They're just
letting you see it. Yeah,

808
00:55:22,679 --> 00:55:25,480
you can't go down and dive into
it. No, but there's no one

809
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:30,840
well I think there's researchers and stuff
where they're not removing anything. It's like

810
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:34,000
the old ten thousand Leagues under the
Sea at Disney World. It just kind

811
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,880
of goes around, kind of the
lost continent of Atlantis, but you get

812
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,840
to see now they did eventually get
down on the CBS Sunday Morning Show,

813
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:45,280
and it is interesting. It's kind
of interesting to see that two hundred and

814
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:50,679
fifty thousand dollars per person. Who
is paying to do that? Who are

815
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:55,920
the typical clientele for these missions.
We have clients that are Titanic enthusiasts,

816
00:55:55,960 --> 00:56:00,679
which we refer to as Titaniacs.
We've had people mortgaged their home to come

817
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:05,880
and do the j and we have
people who don't think twice about a trip

818
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:09,280
of this this cost um. We
had one gentleman who had won the lottery.

819
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:22,159
Okayaciac counder the floor. Then I'm
dying. Look, I'm sorry some

820
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,679
one. So that was pretty good
though that I learned about watching you.

821
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:31,119
Yeah, Unfortunately, I don't believe
when I saw this today, I'm like,

822
00:56:31,119 --> 00:56:34,559
I hope Billy talks about this.
Well. Yeah, well I saw

823
00:56:34,599 --> 00:56:37,360
it yesterday and we got caught up
with some other things yesterday night. I

824
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,280
didn't. I'm glad you brought it
because I heard yesterday's show and I gotta

825
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,840
tell you, man, I'm like, damn it. I always missed the

826
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,960
great shows. I had so many
one liners with EJ and everything else.

827
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:51,239
Go ahead, I say it wasn't
the one liner kind of day Danny to

828
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,920
Bank executive Renata wrote us, I'm
trying to fulfill the dream. I've been

829
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:59,280
wanting to go to Tectanic and see
it with my own eyes since before they

830
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,280
found it, and she's done saving
to see the Titanic for thirty years.

831
00:57:02,519 --> 00:57:07,000
Thirty years. Dreams don't have a
price. Some people want a Ferrari,

832
00:57:08,079 --> 00:57:13,159
some people buy a house. I
wanted to go to Titanic, but the

833
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:19,800
star of the show is the titan
stopped in Russia's custom built submersible, five

834
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:25,119
inch thick carbon fiber capped on each
end by a dome of titanium. Okay,

835
00:57:25,639 --> 00:57:30,360
now this thing just so not to
diminish it big, because you're gonna

836
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,639
hear and read a lot of things, and I'm gonna be about to play

837
00:57:32,679 --> 00:57:37,840
some audio that it's gonna get played
over and over, and I don't want

838
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:39,679
to say it's taken out of context, because I don't know that it necessarily

839
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:47,400
is. But the actual vessel was
designed with NASA and I'm gonna I'm forgetting

840
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:52,840
what other entity, but it's a
bowing bowen bowing did this? Yes?

841
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:57,480
Now, when you hear some of
the things that are operating it. You

842
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,920
you're gonna question that, And that's
why I want to talk to mister.

843
00:58:00,159 --> 00:58:05,119
It's not a smart phone. Hard
Well, we're not far off, daddy,

844
00:58:05,199 --> 00:58:08,679
We're not far off an experimental submersible
vessel that has not been approved or

845
00:58:08,719 --> 00:58:14,559
certified by any regulatory body and could
result in physical injury, disability, emotional

846
00:58:14,639 --> 00:58:19,840
trauma, or death. Where do
I sign? Yeah? So this should

847
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:23,599
you hear me out? This is
good? It looks like the capsule they

848
00:58:23,679 --> 00:58:37,760
from Doctor Evil in it. Yes, powers really so these are and the

849
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:42,079
guy's not making any money because I
think in this piece he says they burned

850
00:58:42,079 --> 00:58:45,599
a million dollars worth of fuel,
killing everybody. They tried to go out

851
00:58:45,679 --> 00:58:52,159
three times. Now, this was
no Remember twenty two. Inside the sub

852
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:55,199
has about as much room as a
minivan. So this is not your submersion.

853
00:58:57,039 --> 00:58:59,519
We only have one button. That's
it. It should be like in

854
00:58:59,639 --> 00:59:02,199
Eleva, you know, it shouldn't
take a lot of skill. The Titan

855
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:07,119
is the only five person sub in
the world that can reach Titanic depths two

856
00:59:07,199 --> 00:59:12,840
point four miles below the scene.
It's also the only one with a toilet

857
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:17,199
sort of and yet I couldn't help
noticing how many pieces of this sub seemed

858
00:59:17,719 --> 00:59:22,559
improvised. We can use these off
the shelf components. I got these from

859
00:59:22,079 --> 00:59:28,559
Camper World. We run the whole
thing with this game controller. Come on,

860
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:37,199
it seems like this submersible has some
elements of mcgivory. Jerry Rignus.

861
00:59:37,639 --> 00:59:39,840
I mean, you're putting construction pipes
as ballasts. I don't know if i'd

862
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:45,920
use that description of it, but
there's certain things that you want to be

863
00:59:45,559 --> 00:59:50,280
buttoned down. So the pressure vessel
is not mcgivert at all, because that's

864
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:53,039
where we work with Boeing in NASA
and the University of Washington. Everything else

865
00:59:53,119 --> 00:59:57,559
can fail. Your thrusters can go, your lights can go, You're still

866
00:59:57,599 --> 01:00:00,440
going to be safe. You're okay. So to that point, and we'll

867
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:06,920
talk to uh Rick in just a
minute here. I think this morning on

868
01:00:07,039 --> 01:00:12,199
CNN they said that they leave these
guys could survive forty hours. I talked

869
01:00:12,199 --> 01:00:16,079
to Rick this evening and he said
it was about thirty five hours worth of

870
01:00:16,159 --> 01:00:21,119
air left. I heard in ninety
six hours. Yeah, I read three

871
01:00:21,199 --> 01:00:23,159
days. Yeah, so but that
may have been as of sun but we

872
01:00:23,199 --> 01:00:27,800
don't know, right so we'll see
what what Rick has to take all our

873
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:34,960
money with Nason bowing, so he
butt this but the button. You know,

874
01:00:35,079 --> 01:00:37,400
that sounds really funny and I hate
to be the guy to go because

875
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,599
there's so many jokes there right right, I mean the port journalist who's doing

876
01:00:40,639 --> 01:00:44,719
the report, right, the guy
with the college for CBS. So he's

877
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:46,639
a pretty smart guy, and the
best words he could use to describe it

878
01:00:46,719 --> 01:00:51,760
are mcguigerish, Jerry rigging, Jerry
riggish. I mean could even call up

879
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:53,880
a real word or led lights.
I think that you could buy, like

880
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:58,119
the guy said, a camper world
or whatever, and probably something you would

881
01:00:58,119 --> 01:01:00,360
put in a camper. It's about
the size. See, if something doesn't

882
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:02,639
make sense to you, say it
out loud. If it still doesn't make

883
01:01:02,719 --> 01:01:06,320
sense, it probably does it.
And this dude set it out loud and

884
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,039
it didn't make sense. If you're
interested, after the show, we can

885
01:01:08,119 --> 01:01:14,360
find two more. We can take
the mini vennw uh. Now here's the

886
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:17,800
woman that was trying for thirty years
to go, so I don't know if

887
01:01:19,159 --> 01:01:24,000
she goes out and they they scrubbed
a couple of times. I think I

888
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:29,039
think I pulled the audio one time. When they pull everybody back up.

889
01:01:30,119 --> 01:01:34,239
How dived in the ocean Gate submersible
had made it down only thirty seven feet

890
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:39,280
when this happened. So apparently those
floats there came off the platform and that

891
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:49,199
wasn't supposed to happen. So got
be that I was crushed. My diving

892
01:01:49,239 --> 01:01:53,960
adventures were over. Every expedition has
his challenges. Now this is the one

893
01:01:54,639 --> 01:02:00,079
for thirty years have not meaning one
expedition where things have to be adjust it,

894
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:04,400
adapted, changed for canceled. At
the end of the day, you're

895
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:08,519
at the mercy of the weather.
Were not a Rojas speaks from painful experience.

896
01:02:09,039 --> 01:02:15,519
Over the years, She's been booked
on three Titanic expeditions. All three

897
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:20,920
were canceled. Just cry a lot. I don't know, as I don't

898
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:25,039
believe so, and just keep the
flame alive because he's something that I have

899
01:02:25,239 --> 01:02:30,480
to do. Don't if you lost
two hundred and fifty thousand dollars, it's

900
01:02:30,559 --> 01:02:32,800
time. But he I think,
I don't know. I don't know what

901
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:38,320
they don't say, because he's offered
a free trip to people who have had

902
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:43,199
couldn't weren't able to get down there. But I don't I don't know.

903
01:02:43,679 --> 01:02:46,119
You know you are in business.
I wonder was just one of those put

904
01:02:46,159 --> 01:02:50,480
together submarines like doctor Wortman had with
his plane plane. No, do they

905
01:02:50,519 --> 01:03:00,639
do an honor flight for Titanic survivors, right, an honor voyagee. Now

906
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:08,400
listen to this tights on bottom.
But that was the last of the good

907
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:13,960
news, And I said, do
you know where we are? About?

908
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:16,320
Then four seventy of the bow?
If you were lost or are we There's

909
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:22,239
no GPS under water, so the
surface ship is supposed to guide the sub

910
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:28,559
to the shipwreck by sending text messages
and thirty degrees right, probably agree,

911
01:03:29,039 --> 01:03:34,039
But on this dive communications somehow broke
down. The sub never found the wreck.

912
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,840
We've been lost. We've lost for
two and a half hours. Rush

913
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:42,920
says he'll offer those passengers a free
do over next year. I can't find

914
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:46,719
the ducking Sorry, I can't find
the ducking I can't find the ducking wreck.

915
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:51,039
Damn it. It's not a thing
anymore. They's getting rid of that,

916
01:03:51,159 --> 01:03:54,559
all right. So it does sound
like they didn't do a software update.

917
01:03:54,679 --> 01:03:58,840
I don't know that. I want
to pay a quarter million dollars to

918
01:03:59,079 --> 01:04:02,920
have something that texted coordinates and run
by a joystick. I'd like something that

919
01:04:03,079 --> 01:04:06,239
looks a little more safe. But
if you're an adventure Look, people are

920
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:11,320
going to space right where this is
private enterprise, and these things are going

921
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:15,079
to happen. What is the likelihood
of saving these people? I don't know

922
01:04:15,199 --> 01:04:18,079
that it's very good. It's all
about right now. But I mean,

923
01:04:18,199 --> 01:04:23,960
all these guys were very rich,
and I think, like the one Hamish

924
01:04:24,599 --> 01:04:29,239
is a billionaire and some other I
think they kind of know going in.

925
01:04:29,599 --> 01:04:32,519
I look, I would I don't
know if I could do this. That's

926
01:04:32,519 --> 01:04:35,480
the thing that I'm wondering about,
because I would do all this crazy shit.

927
01:04:35,599 --> 01:04:39,519
I see those ultra lights and I
want to jump up in one of

928
01:04:39,519 --> 01:04:42,239
those. It's a go cart with
a parachute. I think that looks fucking

929
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:45,159
cooler than anything. If somebody said
to me, yeah, you can do

930
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:47,840
that, I'm I'm in. I'm
in, and I think I'm safe because

931
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:53,360
I got a parachute right right,
So go wrong. I feel like somebody

932
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:59,480
done make that happen. And then
but with this, I mean it looks

933
01:04:59,559 --> 01:05:02,039
cool. I eventually did. Now. This aired in November of twenty twenty

934
01:05:02,079 --> 01:05:06,400
two this past fall on CBS Sunday
morning. They eventually got there and it

935
01:05:06,559 --> 01:05:12,119
was cool to see the ship and
you get it was interesting, right,

936
01:05:12,159 --> 01:05:14,800
it's interesting. I just don't know
that I have the interesting to going to

937
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:18,880
do that, but that it's a
big risk, you know, some of

938
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:23,360
other things I could spend two That's
what I'm saying. If you don't mind,

939
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:28,760
if you can call, we'll see. We can get beer. Yeah,

940
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:30,079
okay, we could. Yeah,
you could about anything other than that.

941
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:32,639
Yeah, I mean, I mean
I feel bad for the poor woman

942
01:05:32,679 --> 01:05:38,239
who wasted her life savings to see
this was her dream, especially when she

943
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:40,880
got down there on the on that
one. Now, I don't know if

944
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:43,719
she had to pay every time.
I have no idea. The last one

945
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:46,559
they who were giving a free yeah, they were, uh, this is

946
01:05:47,039 --> 01:05:55,920
che Hello, Hello, Ricky,
It's Rick Murkhar and I Rick, this

947
01:05:56,039 --> 01:05:59,880
is Bill Moran. You were on
the podcast Billified. I saw you earlier

948
01:06:00,039 --> 01:06:05,280
today on CNN talking about all the
things that are happening with the submersible called

949
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:10,199
the Titan, and I thought some
of the things you had to say,

950
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:15,440
we're interesting in that even comparing it
to SpaceX and the tourist missions. I

951
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:17,239
mean, this is sort of private
enterprise and it's a cool thing and if

952
01:06:17,239 --> 01:06:21,760
you've got the money, well,
it seemed like it was pretty safe up

953
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:29,639
to this point. After this point, yeah, so what can we talk

954
01:06:29,679 --> 01:06:31,920
about? How can I help you
there? So Well, the questions that

955
01:06:32,039 --> 01:06:36,119
I have is when when you look
at at these kinds of things, what

956
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:40,559
is the likelihood of finding this and
being able to bring it back to the

957
01:06:40,639 --> 01:06:45,400
surface. Well, that it is
the time factor question. At this point.

958
01:06:46,599 --> 01:06:49,199
You know, we're dealing with a
big area. I mean, the

959
01:06:49,239 --> 01:06:55,000
ocean siege cover seventy percent of the
planet, so we're talking in area search

960
01:06:55,159 --> 01:06:58,519
that's right now. I'd have to
say probably bigger than the state of Connecticut,

961
01:06:58,679 --> 01:07:00,960
okay at this point, and that's
probably just a surface area, let

962
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:05,239
alone. What's going on at twelve
five hundred feet between zero feet to that

963
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:11,079
depth. So, as I said, I'm one of the earlier interviews,

964
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:14,920
and you know, not to sound
rude or anything, but I mean,

965
01:07:15,039 --> 01:07:18,199
it is a titanic effort or in
the fund. Yeah, it certainly is.

966
01:07:18,239 --> 01:07:23,920
It is a complex search effort,
and you think from military and coast

967
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:28,400
guard terms, the first have to
is actually located. Then if they do

968
01:07:28,559 --> 01:07:30,400
find it, and that is the
big gift. At this point in time,

969
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:34,559
I think we're getting down close about
maybe thirty two hours. It's the

970
01:07:34,639 --> 01:07:40,039
vible time left. They have to
confirm the status towards the possible way of

971
01:07:40,039 --> 01:07:45,320
recovery both of the vessel and the
occupants, and then the next phase with

972
01:07:45,599 --> 01:07:48,199
what can they do to recover and
if hopefully if at the best few versus

973
01:07:48,239 --> 01:07:56,519
a peer recovery. So time time
is running pretty thin. The likelihood it's

974
01:07:56,559 --> 01:07:59,880
all going to hinge on whether even
get close to finding it or not.

975
01:08:00,159 --> 01:08:03,719
I do know that some private vessels
have moved into the area. Some of

976
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:09,920
them have capability to do some things
at some great depth. Um, but

977
01:08:10,039 --> 01:08:12,840
there's a lot of factors that are
involved. I mean, it really starts

978
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:16,840
with the vessel itself. To Titan
itself go ahead. I was just say,

979
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:19,159
is there something that the coastguard would
get in there? And they have

980
01:08:19,199 --> 01:08:25,359
the equipment they're trying to do that, like I think right like the coastguards

981
01:08:25,399 --> 01:08:28,560
coming out of Rhode Island, and
I think that they're also using a lot

982
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:34,800
of Canadian Coastguard as well, because
the ship itself left Newfoundland right correct,

983
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:39,960
Yes, it came out of Saint
John's Newfounland. Based on whether patterns and

984
01:08:40,039 --> 01:08:42,880
stuff like that, they decided they
would dive and I think it was like

985
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:46,319
an hour forty five minutes into the
dive Rougher boat six am on Sunday that

986
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:51,760
they lost communication. Apparently last year
the Titan lost communication for a couple of

987
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:55,680
hours, but re estopish it,
which is kind of a good feeling.

988
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:59,439
I guess, yeah, um,
you know, you would think, I

989
01:09:00,359 --> 01:09:03,119
mean, this is pure exploration.
This really is just on the cutting edge

990
01:09:03,119 --> 01:09:06,720
of exploration. When you think about
we have technology which still has limits to

991
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:12,640
Titan has capability to go down just
a little bit more than thirteen thousand feet,

992
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:15,840
while the Titanics it's at twelve thousand
and five to descent and it itself

993
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:20,680
is in a trench. Add the
debris field, and of course we have

994
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:26,600
no idea what happened to the submersible. Did it get caught and return to

995
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:30,520
the surface. It was the first
out of the area by currents. Did

996
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:34,319
it only get down? You figure
in an hour and forty five minutes its

997
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:39,119
depth based on Rookley, I'd have
to say about eighty to eighty five feet

998
01:09:39,159 --> 01:09:42,319
per minute descent rate because it takes
about two and a half to three hours

999
01:09:42,399 --> 01:09:46,960
to descent of the Titanic. SOB
eight hundred eighty seven hundred feet were they

1000
01:09:47,039 --> 01:09:50,399
caught, did they have multiple fars
and did they get caught at that point?

1001
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:55,119
And now they'd being pushed with currents? Sort they did they get to

1002
01:09:55,199 --> 01:09:57,760
the bottom? Are they trapped under
the Titanic or they caught up in the

1003
01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:03,159
debris field that even mired into the
mud. One of the recovery capabilities of

1004
01:10:03,239 --> 01:10:09,560
self recovery, which means they would
have dropped a weighted component of the roll

1005
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:12,279
and that should have floated them back
to the surface. But at this point

1006
01:10:12,319 --> 01:10:15,560
we can't even validate that. Now. I do know that this this vessel,

1007
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:20,239
once you get in there, it's
sealed. It's almost like I don't

1008
01:10:20,319 --> 01:10:24,239
think it's rivets, but it's some
kind of machine and they lock you in

1009
01:10:24,359 --> 01:10:28,800
there. So there's no way for
these guys, if they did surface,

1010
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:32,800
to even get out without someone else
letting them out. Correct. Correct,

1011
01:10:33,039 --> 01:10:36,720
it has to be a after back
to the launch platform. So this specil

1012
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:41,520
actually enters the water on the launch
park form that goes about thirty forty feet

1013
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:45,880
down afore about one atmosphere of depth, and then so maneuvers off that and

1014
01:10:46,039 --> 01:10:50,399
goes to the object. What's in
this case was the Titanic, right,

1015
01:10:51,039 --> 01:10:57,039
So once they're sealed into that,
you are you are basically in this case,

1016
01:10:57,119 --> 01:11:00,479
we're looking at carbon fiber and titanium
and it is a cocoon for lack

1017
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:05,039
of anything else. Yea, And
the five people inside have to really get

1018
01:11:05,119 --> 01:11:11,840
back to the surface and have somebody
on the outside open the hatch and let

1019
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:15,279
them out. So even if they're
on the surface, you still got to

1020
01:11:15,279 --> 01:11:17,479
get them back on their platform or
we cover them back onto a ship before

1021
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:20,399
you're gonna you wouldn't want to pull
them out and just have the same flood

1022
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:24,399
and sink on them and you know
all that work and pull them down with

1023
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:27,600
the sub. So, I mean, it's a lot of things that are

1024
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:30,640
going on. It's a mixture of
off the shelf technology. I mean,

1025
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:36,880
we're looking at a PlayStation controller that
basically the pilot uses to maneuver this submersible.

1026
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:41,119
And you know, people criticize that, Yes, I fair enough,

1027
01:11:41,119 --> 01:11:45,079
I'm so glad you bring that up. But is it a fair Is it

1028
01:11:45,319 --> 01:11:47,960
rick a fair thing to criticize?
I know it looks simple, but the

1029
01:11:48,079 --> 01:11:54,039
technology is so advanced it was working. It worked. I mean, they'd

1030
01:11:54,079 --> 01:11:58,279
be doing this since twenty one.
Yeah, and they've they've done trips to

1031
01:11:58,399 --> 01:12:02,840
the Titanic annually, just to repeat, uh, you know, a submersion

1032
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:09,479
to that depth and have your vessel
repeatedly be used is proof a certain technology.

1033
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:12,920
But they do have unique technology that's
been engineering there. You know,

1034
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:17,199
they do have the real time hull
health monitoring system that basically monitor is that

1035
01:12:17,319 --> 01:12:23,680
carbon fiber hall in the titanium,
and if there's any when we look at

1036
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:27,199
the integrity of the hall, if
there's any any breach of that, then

1037
01:12:27,279 --> 01:12:30,399
the pilot knows immediately to begin their
ascent. Yeah. So I'm suspecting that

1038
01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:36,199
there are multiple failures, uh that
has occurred unless they're are on the surface

1039
01:12:36,239 --> 01:12:40,640
and they just haven't located them at
this point. And you know, there's

1040
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:44,159
the only speculation. So we've got
a bunch of things going on here that

1041
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:49,800
between the design and the fell safe
systems or what sort in place. You

1042
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:55,640
know, it's interesting people are yelling
regulations have to be brought in for this

1043
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:58,760
kind of diving, this kind of
experience, and I am fully supportive of

1044
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:01,800
the fact that we should be doing
this kind of exploration. We don't know

1045
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:05,640
much about the oceans. We know, you know, we're just getting into

1046
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:09,920
space. And now that the private
sectors got involved, you know, space

1047
01:13:10,039 --> 01:13:13,119
race is probably hard and fund taken
off a little bit better. Yea.

1048
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:16,359
But you know there there are more
companies out there that do this kind of

1049
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:20,880
deep sea exploration, just not to
this kind of depth in taking these kind

1050
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:26,640
of passengers down. So you know, ocean gates kind of leading the way

1051
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:30,279
and that and with that comes the
observation and crittigue of your technology. Do

1052
01:13:30,399 --> 01:13:34,439
they dive Titanic or is it just
kind of a Titanic thing for them?

1053
01:13:36,159 --> 01:13:40,800
The Titanic sort of funds if I
understand it correctly, sort of funds other

1054
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:44,720
products that they have. You know, you're paying two hundred and fifty thousand

1055
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:47,359
for a passenger to get on us, and it is it is like I

1056
01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:51,880
say, an experience. You're going
from daylight to pitch blackness, limited only

1057
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:55,880
for the available artificial lighting that they
can bring with them. What's what have

1058
01:13:56,079 --> 01:14:00,920
limited penetration into the depth darkness that's
down there. But they're take those funds

1059
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:02,920
and then they'll go start looking at
reefs and other different things like that,

1060
01:14:03,159 --> 01:14:06,159
and so we can learn more about
the reef structure, how deep reefs can

1061
01:14:06,239 --> 01:14:11,439
go, the benefit of a reef
in terms of our global planet and its

1062
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:15,319
survivability, and that probably into climate
change and those other things. So it's

1063
01:14:15,319 --> 01:14:20,920
sort of a means to an end, but you're really steeling the human spirit

1064
01:14:21,039 --> 01:14:26,560
and the desire for exploration, and
those that can afford it are obviously jumping

1065
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:29,720
onto it. I imagine he's had
up to this point. We're talking in

1066
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:32,800
Stockton, Russia at this time,
because he's on the vessel. You know,

1067
01:14:33,119 --> 01:14:36,600
he's probably has a lineup of people
willing to go. I mean,

1068
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:43,880
look at Bosno's and these people are
taking people up into space. William standards

1069
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:47,920
finally can commits as they're not now. Yeah, I mean people have paid

1070
01:14:48,279 --> 01:14:53,920
some premium dollars go and do this
experience in their case, to go out

1071
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:57,920
and look at a blue planet or
it's incredible. Yeah. So I had

1072
01:14:58,079 --> 01:15:01,119
met a lady that did on the
Titanic many years ago. She says.

1073
01:15:01,119 --> 01:15:04,039
It's kind of interesting. You go
from the twilight zone of what we call

1074
01:15:04,359 --> 01:15:08,279
the Natzal light still penetrating, you
get to the dark and it's dark.

1075
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:12,079
Dark is dark you know, and
until the lights come on, you really

1076
01:15:12,119 --> 01:15:15,720
don't get much. You see the
bioluminescence and all this other stuff. But

1077
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:18,960
she said when they got down,
you know, she's kind of playing optimistic

1078
01:15:19,159 --> 01:15:23,079
in the Hollywood images of what the
Titanic is and stuff. All of a

1079
01:15:23,119 --> 01:15:26,880
sudden the dowel appeared and it really
sunk into her heart on that point,

1080
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:30,760
and just realize the significance of what
they had just achieved. Yeah, you

1081
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:31,880
know, as I said in one
of the interviews, I mean, people

1082
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:35,319
talk about a needle in the haystack. Well, you've got the Titanic,

1083
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:39,079
as big as it is, as
far as being an ocean liner, it's

1084
01:15:39,119 --> 01:15:42,680
still a needle in a haystack.
The seventy percent of the planet right now.

1085
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:45,159
You're looking for a needle on a
needle in a haystack, even if

1086
01:15:45,199 --> 01:15:48,960
it's in the area. So rink, well, pretty dunk. I'm sorry

1087
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:53,479
to interrupt, but you go ahead. You're you're an expert diver, you're

1088
01:15:54,199 --> 01:15:58,600
part of the international dive team.
I don't know what the right phrase is

1089
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:02,439
there. I'm with the National associate
for Cave Diving. I'm with the Professional

1090
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:06,520
Associates and Diving in starctors. I'm
with the International Diver I teach people to

1091
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:13,079
scuba dive from not knowing anything after
doing full deep cave exploration. I work

1092
01:16:13,159 --> 01:16:16,359
with public safety divers, law enforcement
dive teams. UM. I do research

1093
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:21,000
and development, kind of been a
guinea pig in a couple of cases in

1094
01:16:21,199 --> 01:16:27,000
hyperparre chambers and then U equipment manufacturers. I've done R and D for that,

1095
01:16:27,199 --> 01:16:31,079
so I've done. You're an expert, I would say, I would

1096
01:16:31,079 --> 01:16:34,439
say, I know as the interviews, okay, yeah, would you're company

1097
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:41,279
learning? Would you get into this
vessel? I know I would. I

1098
01:16:41,399 --> 01:16:45,359
would know this vessel specifically, yes, now knowing what I know, and

1099
01:16:48,159 --> 01:16:53,520
you know, I mean you think
of the Titanic. We didn't have many

1100
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:58,880
cruise liners didn't have lifeboats sufficient for
the passengers until after the Titanic, that's

1101
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:01,359
true, and life jackets. So
now we have that. So this may

1102
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:06,199
it's unfortunate that we have to have
an accident to occur that certain guidelines and

1103
01:17:06,279 --> 01:17:09,439
regulations get put in place. And
listen, you have to have this.

1104
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:13,720
You have to have this. The
airline industry has it right, and maybe

1105
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:15,920
the awkward industry, if I can
call it that, you know, the

1106
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:19,520
summercial industry has to start looking at
the third history. I mean, there's

1107
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:24,920
a lot of successes, but maybe
when you start to bring the average citizen

1108
01:17:25,159 --> 01:17:28,039
into play, well then you know, the risk factor goes up, the

1109
01:17:28,119 --> 01:17:31,399
liability goes up. So it's fine. You can sign a waiver and say,

1110
01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:34,800
well, I accept the risk of
doing this. I mean, at

1111
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:38,760
twelve thousand, five hundred feet,
nobody can hear your scream or well they

1112
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:42,039
can actually, and that's what they're
listening for. But the reality is,

1113
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:45,840
I mean you've accepted your terms.
So you know, if I had a

1114
01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:53,560
chance to go down and need a
Titanic and I started my scuba diving begining

1115
01:17:54,119 --> 01:17:58,520
round and muddy waters and low visibility
waters up in Canada in the Autowa vers,

1116
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:03,239
I couldn't tell you. I had
no idea that we're there. You

1117
01:18:03,319 --> 01:18:05,560
know, well, you know what, you're not far from us if Ottawa,

1118
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:11,239
because we're right off Lake Ontario and
Rochester. M that's right. Yeah,

1119
01:18:11,239 --> 01:18:15,479
And I have former students that are
from Rochester and I've been in Lake

1120
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:18,119
area, and I've been in Lake
Ontario and stuff. So um, following

1121
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:23,439
doing Selbridge work, and I used
to bring trees up from the bottom of

1122
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:27,079
the river and sell them off to
a million plant. You know it good

1123
01:18:27,159 --> 01:18:29,439
lumber. Wow. Well, then
I went into rect I mean, so

1124
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:31,800
I have great interest in Rex and
I've been on some of the most famous

1125
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:35,159
wreck like the one of the last
big Rex hours on the Zenobia but sank

1126
01:18:35,239 --> 01:18:40,199
in like nineteen eighty five the ferry
out of out of Atlanta, Cyprus.

1127
01:18:40,359 --> 01:18:45,520
So that's a premium wreck. Now
I have not Middle East in nineteen seventy

1128
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:46,800
six. I've been a diver,
but I've not hit Truckler Goon yet.

1129
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:50,079
That that's on my bucket. Would
you would you do the tighten or would

1130
01:18:50,079 --> 01:18:54,880
you do the cave? Say for
the Chinese soccer kids that were stuck in

1131
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:57,960
that cave that they did that movie? He did it. He was part

1132
01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:00,439
of that. He was he was
part of Well, I was not part

1133
01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:04,079
of the actual team line, but
I was part of the discussion group on

1134
01:19:04,199 --> 01:19:09,800
that. I am a member of
the International Underwater Cave Rescuing Recovery And that's

1135
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:13,000
that's sort of where my law enforcement
assistance comes in, because you know,

1136
01:19:13,359 --> 01:19:16,439
respectful to the public safety diving teams
and the police divers, many of them

1137
01:19:17,199 --> 01:19:21,000
really they're trained to the basis level
they get with their agency, and then

1138
01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:25,720
the agency sort of beasts up the
training for what it meets their needs.

1139
01:19:26,359 --> 01:19:30,119
A lot of them very soldom actually
get into advanced level or even the rescue

1140
01:19:30,159 --> 01:19:33,439
diver training and stuff. But they're
the police are They're after the fact anyway,

1141
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:36,399
They're not there to for the most
part, except the rescue. It's

1142
01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:42,079
really a recovery. And some of
the systems that we have here in Florida,

1143
01:19:42,159 --> 01:19:45,039
I mean, you know, the
depoled in the egos and nessary getting

1144
01:19:45,279 --> 01:19:48,640
cave systems that are in the three
hundred plus foot deep range, and cave

1145
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:54,199
diving itself has its own risk,
let alone going deep. So sometimes some

1146
01:19:54,319 --> 01:19:58,199
of my dives take more time to
plan than they do execute the dive I

1147
01:19:58,319 --> 01:20:00,960
got. In this case, we
look into the Titan. I mean,

1148
01:20:00,039 --> 01:20:03,079
it's not like these people just jumped
on the boat. They have an eight

1149
01:20:03,199 --> 01:20:09,600
day window of doing things. And
I'm sure that you know, ocean Gate

1150
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:13,199
did some preliminary training advise them.
So here's how you can control the vessel,

1151
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:17,119
maybe some stimulator work or whatever,
pull them the risks and then presented

1152
01:20:17,119 --> 01:20:19,159
the liability to form in front of
them. So I mean, in the

1153
01:20:19,279 --> 01:20:24,319
end, it's their choice, right, and then selecting, making sure that

1154
01:20:24,399 --> 01:20:30,199
everything's a goal, whether the systems
are on the vessel itself, keeping the

1155
01:20:30,319 --> 01:20:33,079
vessel as simple as they can.
And you have to understand they're not at

1156
01:20:33,119 --> 01:20:38,439
the same pressure that the outside of
the vessel is experiencing. So let's assume

1157
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:41,880
they've got down to the Thai Tanic. You're twelve thousand, five hundred seat.

1158
01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:46,359
That's three hundred and eighty bar or
three hundred and eighty atmospheres. Absolutely,

1159
01:20:47,279 --> 01:20:54,439
so that is going to yield just
the pressure alone a posting level fifty

1160
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:59,840
six hundred psi wow, for every
square into that vehicle human body cannot tolerate.

1161
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:05,159
There's no way that they the inner
pressure of that that submarine is at

1162
01:21:05,239 --> 01:21:09,359
that. I believe that they pressure
as it to what they refer to as

1163
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:12,239
one atmosphere, so they try to
keep the pressure as best they can,

1164
01:21:13,239 --> 01:21:17,960
essentially as zero feat. That would
allow them to come back up relatively quick.

1165
01:21:18,079 --> 01:21:23,600
So this whole dive trip should have
taken maybe eight nine hours total run

1166
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:28,760
time from surface to surface. Um, now they've got themselves in a position

1167
01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:33,199
wherever they are again we assume they're
down on the Titanic or close thereof I

1168
01:21:33,319 --> 01:21:39,600
mean eighty seven hundred feet nothing to
like close your eyes at. But you

1169
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:44,399
know they're breathing a compressed gas.
Um that gas has to be measured.

1170
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:46,439
It's it's medium. And I'm saying
gas because it's you know, I know

1171
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:51,560
the media saying oxygen. Ye're right, yeah, you know it's one gas

1172
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:56,199
of many. There's nitrogen in there. And for people that study decompression on

1173
01:21:56,319 --> 01:22:00,039
its, the coasts made it very
clear they're bringing in portable decompression hyperderet chambers

1174
01:22:00,079 --> 01:22:03,079
and stuff. Because to bring these
people up here, here's kind of a

1175
01:22:03,159 --> 01:22:06,359
scenario. You could think it put
your whole frustrating. This must be you're

1176
01:22:06,399 --> 01:22:10,479
in there, you're tapping on this
thing, making noise and hoping that some

1177
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:15,960
song or be can pick you up. Then also some ROVs tapping on the

1178
01:22:15,039 --> 01:22:19,720
glass and some private vessels that has
the capability to do that kind of thing

1179
01:22:20,279 --> 01:22:23,840
drops down and they're going to clamp
onto you. Now, maybe you have

1180
01:22:24,039 --> 01:22:29,520
only four hours left of your air
supply. Well that's not still going to

1181
01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:33,520
cut it because they have to bring
you up at a controlled pace to avoid

1182
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:36,800
decompression. Right, So, now
here you're gett into the search of ball.

1183
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:39,399
I mean me, i'd say,
well, we'll pull you up,

1184
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:42,239
We'll put you in the chamber.
I mean, you know you're gonna have

1185
01:22:42,239 --> 01:22:44,920
to head your bet somewhere or the
other here, because at a certain point

1186
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:47,079
it's just a no goal. There's
this, I mean, the searcher would

1187
01:22:47,119 --> 01:22:51,800
be just fruitless sort of thing.
And we have to be real to that.

1188
01:22:53,359 --> 01:22:55,479
But at the same time, I
think we you know, we don't

1189
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:59,239
lose hope, right, yeah,
rackers, things that happened in the past,

1190
01:22:59,359 --> 01:23:01,319
no, right, And look,
you consulted on one of the most

1191
01:23:01,399 --> 01:23:08,239
miraculous that's saving of those kids in
the cave alvern Asia. I mean that's

1192
01:23:08,319 --> 01:23:12,239
amazing, played by play perhaps,
yeah, you know sort of thing.

1193
01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:16,000
They had the right divers on that, and that that is an example of

1194
01:23:16,079 --> 01:23:19,279
the logistics it took. I mean, you have the cave diver skills,

1195
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:25,119
ye, to get the thirteen out
they went in. So the logistics just

1196
01:23:25,239 --> 01:23:28,439
to keep the you know, nature
at bay, pumping out water, pumping

1197
01:23:28,479 --> 01:23:31,399
out water, pumping water, and
is the very last rescue diver exited the

1198
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:34,760
staging point. He came up and
by the time as I understood that,

1199
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:40,119
the he watched from the staging point
up to let's just say the shoreline the

1200
01:23:40,199 --> 01:23:43,720
water had come from basically what was
his ankles up to just above his knees.

1201
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:45,880
Well, they had all the kids
out, so shut the pumps down.

1202
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:48,079
You don't care, Well, well, we've done our job. We

1203
01:23:48,199 --> 01:23:51,239
can clean it up later in the
stream. You know. The water is

1204
01:23:51,279 --> 01:23:57,880
received sort of thing. And that
is a pure example of just the color

1205
01:23:57,920 --> 01:24:00,840
which want. It is a miracle
and it's just to do what they did

1206
01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:02,840
and how they say they did the
kids. Well, here and now we

1207
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:08,720
have people that intentionally went and did
what they did, not seeing the kids

1208
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:12,880
into the cave intention but I mean
they know or should have known the risk

1209
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:19,039
going into that, yes, exactly. So you're looking at that now when

1210
01:24:19,079 --> 01:24:24,319
we look at comparable things that we
could take a lesson from. I mean,

1211
01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:27,720
obviously we have the soccer team rescue, we have that. We have

1212
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:30,239
the miners of a Chile, the
thirty three miners that were rescued back in

1213
01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:34,000
two thou ten or what it was. You have the Russian submarine the Cursed.

1214
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:39,399
Now that was three hundred and fifty
feet down, not even close to

1215
01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:42,760
what the Titanic at that, but
one hundred and eighteen people lost their lives

1216
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:47,239
on that. A Dutch company recovered
the entire submarine. Now to pull something

1217
01:24:47,279 --> 01:24:51,079
out from twelve thousand, five hundred
feet there's a lot of effort compared to

1218
01:24:51,159 --> 01:24:54,680
three hundred and fifty. And I
can tell your three hundred and fifty's a

1219
01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:59,840
major undertaking in itself. Look at
the Air France flight four four to seven,

1220
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:03,800
you know, the missing plane and
flight MHT zero and whatnot. I

1221
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:06,760
mean that was a significantly deep plane, but they went down. You know

1222
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:11,760
you love those black boxes, right, Yeah, they located that. So

1223
01:25:12,279 --> 01:25:15,119
already we're seeing some potential design flaws. Where is it where as the no

1224
01:25:15,239 --> 01:25:21,399
emergency locator transmitters where they knocked off? Why did not the ballast drop off

1225
01:25:23,039 --> 01:25:27,319
the submersible and allow it to come
to the surface. Um? What other

1226
01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:31,920
bailout systems do they have? And
you know inside you've got five people nervous,

1227
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:34,119
so their breathing rate is going to
go up, yes, at an

1228
01:25:34,159 --> 01:25:41,680
increasing breeding rate. The scrubbers that
removed the CO two and whatever backup systems

1229
01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:45,399
like maybe other additional scrubss they can
deploy. I even forgot about that sort

1230
01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:47,760
of the CEO too, that you're
breathing out so you're right, you feel

1231
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:51,800
like an a Pall thirteen situation where
there's condensation on the inside of the cord.

1232
01:25:53,479 --> 01:25:57,119
Yeah, okay, yep, yep. Basically so here you know,

1233
01:25:57,399 --> 01:26:00,640
um, they're having to rely on
them to recertainly there and augment oxygen to

1234
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:05,880
ensure you have a breathable means,
right, sustainable You need to sustainable other

1235
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:10,279
it's side. Those scrubbers have a
certain time on it. That times you

1236
01:26:10,319 --> 01:26:13,800
got to play until that ninety six
hours because if you go past a certain

1237
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:18,760
point of time, those scrubtures can
no longer provide the abstraction of the CEO

1238
01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:23,039
two. Wow. Right, yeah, and so we have that stuff that

1239
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:27,439
the temperature, the humidity that has
to be controlled. The temperature alone,

1240
01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:30,159
you're dealing with temperatures now as you
get deeper gets cold, so you're dealing

1241
01:26:30,199 --> 01:26:34,359
with temperatures that are below freezing.
These people, if they're at depth,

1242
01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:40,760
are going to be cold. Hypothermia
is a possibility, just that alone,

1243
01:26:42,119 --> 01:26:46,159
without even looking at the decompression equation
trying to bring them back up the CEO

1244
01:26:46,239 --> 01:26:51,279
two. The surface are the subsurface, are in the midwater column somewhere drifting

1245
01:26:51,319 --> 01:26:55,880
in the currents because you have the
gold stream current coming up the currents coming

1246
01:26:55,920 --> 01:27:00,479
down, So even sound can't travel
normally because off it will hit from these

1247
01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:03,840
these current flows and it's going to
bend and going off in different directions.

1248
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:10,199
So these P three Ryan aircraft CP
one forty aircraft that Cannis have, they're

1249
01:27:10,279 --> 01:27:14,199
dropping these Sallo boys um submarines a
part we're going to come up. And

1250
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:17,600
you know, give give credit to
these crust listeners on these subs because they've

1251
01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:21,079
trained and trained and trained to distinguish
the difference between a rusted piece of metal

1252
01:27:21,199 --> 01:27:27,319
to plastics and different things that are
map It's amazing, it's amazing. We

1253
01:27:27,399 --> 01:27:32,199
don't have submarines in the Navy that
I know of that can make that kind

1254
01:27:32,239 --> 01:27:35,600
even the nucrous up that could possibly
make that kind of depth. Yeah,

1255
01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:40,199
and if they did, what are
they going to do? Rump it with

1256
01:27:40,239 --> 01:27:42,479
the nose and try to like the
whale to bring the calf up to the

1257
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:46,079
surface. I mean, I'm wondering
if Richard Branson has sent something out.

1258
01:27:46,399 --> 01:27:51,399
He seems to have some kind of
I don't know. I just there's got

1259
01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:55,600
a big Virgin logo on the side
of it. Doesn't matter. We're able

1260
01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:57,680
to save the guy. Yeah,
I mean, then that would be the

1261
01:27:57,720 --> 01:28:00,359
guy to do it. I don't
think ranch are going to complain about whoever

1262
01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:04,680
comes here. I think you got
it, you know, yeah, I

1263
01:28:05,399 --> 01:28:10,119
boy, all the things that you're
laying out here, it makes it sound

1264
01:28:11,079 --> 01:28:15,880
uh nearly impossible. But as you
said, miracles have happened, So we'll

1265
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:20,800
keep our fingers crossed. Yeah,
this I mean exactly, and I would

1266
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:25,319
hope to that based on the hours
less. And you know, there's gonna

1267
01:28:25,319 --> 01:28:27,119
be a certain point it's just going
to have to call it. But the

1268
01:28:27,159 --> 01:28:31,359
reality is, I mean historically doing
any kind of Google search or anything,

1269
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:35,680
this has got to be the deepest
attempt at rescue of anything that we could

1270
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:41,119
ever think of in history, right, you know, I mean various submarines

1271
01:28:41,119 --> 01:28:44,279
that have something that nothing's been that
kind of has that kind of depth.

1272
01:28:44,319 --> 01:28:45,960
No, have they recovered things from
the Titanic. Yes, I mean you

1273
01:28:46,039 --> 01:28:49,199
can go to an exhibition somewhere you
can see a bulkhead from the Titanic.

1274
01:28:49,960 --> 01:28:54,199
Well, it's a bulkhead. There's
nobody's life attached to that bulkhead. Yes,

1275
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:58,399
you know, human remains can't survive
at that depth, so you know,

1276
01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:00,560
they pulled it up using the lift
rank systems and stuff that can be

1277
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:04,680
worked by the ROV. So I
want to say that the technology to recover

1278
01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:09,920
the vessels there, but the keys
can recover it with five people alive.

1279
01:29:11,319 --> 01:29:15,840
That's the question. And you know
you hate to say about the clock to

1280
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:19,199
ticking, It really is ticking,
yea. And the lessons that we should

1281
01:29:19,279 --> 01:29:23,520
learn all this is we honestly have
to look at it and we have to

1282
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:26,520
say, hey, okay, what
what was good? What was not good?

1283
01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:29,800
What do we need to improve on? And there's going to be people

1284
01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:31,000
say we should oft be doing this
kind of stuff. I don't agree with

1285
01:29:31,039 --> 01:29:34,760
that. I think that I think
we have to explore our planets. Yeah,

1286
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:39,520
I think I think the Mormon about
this planet, the better will will

1287
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:44,039
be able to uh push into space
and to you know, take on other

1288
01:29:44,119 --> 01:29:46,760
frontiers and just maybe handle things.
Like you're worried about climate change. I

1289
01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:49,760
look at climate change, it's inevitable. Yeah, I mean, you know,

1290
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:53,920
look at the glaciers. They received
it. Well, there's climate change.

1291
01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:57,239
It's happening. But you know,
we could better prepare ourselves for that.

1292
01:29:57,359 --> 01:30:00,560
We you know, stuff like that, these these oil companies, I

1293
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:05,520
mean just their capabilities along where they
drill deep into the ocean. You know,

1294
01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:09,680
they're getting down some pretty good depths. I mean, they might have

1295
01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:14,640
some of that eye, but the
coast Guard, the navy of both countries,

1296
01:30:14,680 --> 01:30:17,720
and that France is getting in their
Britain's coming into the play. Um.

1297
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:21,079
You know, honestly, I've been
the Russians in I don't I don't

1298
01:30:21,079 --> 01:30:24,760
like politics is going to play a
game on this. But the reality is,

1299
01:30:26,079 --> 01:30:30,479
you know that if there's any hope
and there's any technology that can be

1300
01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:34,079
applied, and it's going to you
know, because the time let's say,

1301
01:30:34,359 --> 01:30:38,960
let's say ship X y Z from
whatever country shows up, if they have

1302
01:30:39,079 --> 01:30:42,520
the ability to listen, we can
get this. They're not going to have

1303
01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:45,920
a lot of time to rig up
a system. They're gonna have to like

1304
01:30:45,039 --> 01:30:49,000
kind of like we know the demension
that you know the same ways twenty one

1305
01:30:49,119 --> 01:30:51,920
thousand pounds and we're not going to
bring it up to a longs platform.

1306
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:55,439
We're gonna pull it up onto the
deck or into the hall, depending how

1307
01:30:55,479 --> 01:30:58,920
the ship's designed, and they're going
to bring it up, you know,

1308
01:30:59,039 --> 01:31:00,520
and they won't have a lot of
time to play with it because the five

1309
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:04,800
people that are on board. Yeah, I really appreciate you explaining all this

1310
01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:09,960
and you did it so well.
One last question that has nothing to do

1311
01:31:10,359 --> 01:31:13,680
with what we're talking about, and
the question is I have no social life

1312
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:17,680
to carry on reck. How do
you feel? How do you feel about

1313
01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:27,039
the Vegas Knights winning the Stanley Cup. You know, it's interesting. I

1314
01:31:27,199 --> 01:31:30,840
remember having a little conflict from Tampa
when their first standing. Yeah, sure,

1315
01:31:30,319 --> 01:31:34,119
I couldn't I get that. I
mean, I was born in Calgary

1316
01:31:34,159 --> 01:31:36,279
and here I'm watching them go,
like, I mean, what was that

1317
01:31:36,359 --> 01:31:39,920
double overtime? So I mean,
honestly, I thought about and I said,

1318
01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:42,319
hey, you know that was actually
good for the geat. Yeah.

1319
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:45,760
And the original general manager, fill
Upsido was smart how we devel up a

1320
01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:48,479
hockey. It was a smart guy. So when I look at when I

1321
01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:50,720
look at the you know, the
Knights winning it, I'm thinking, like,

1322
01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:55,000
you know, their first inaugural season
was pretty good, yep, you

1323
01:31:55,119 --> 01:31:59,319
know, and they had a good
one this season and the Panthers and stuff.

1324
01:31:59,359 --> 01:32:01,760
I was a little bit surprised.
I mean the goal like the day

1325
01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:05,359
against the Panthers. Thought, well, Panthers played a bunch of tough series.

1326
01:32:06,319 --> 01:32:11,159
I was you know, I'm a
Canadian all and Toronto was not necessarily

1327
01:32:11,199 --> 01:32:13,880
my favorite team, but I mean, tickman, hey, come on Toronto

1328
01:32:14,159 --> 01:32:16,920
nineteen sixty seven, Throns, Hey
you got by round one, you know,

1329
01:32:17,279 --> 01:32:19,039
and I was trying of hoping for
well, they didn't get it.

1330
01:32:19,159 --> 01:32:21,319
So I said, well, you
know, let's see if the Panthers made

1331
01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:25,840
and they got you know, they
got to the final U so like,

1332
01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:28,760
good for them. Um, you
know, it's hockey. I mean,

1333
01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:30,960
if you don't want to watch,
fuckey, wait a few minutes and a

1334
01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:34,600
fightal break up, but you know
you get six guys together wearing stocktons and

1335
01:32:34,680 --> 01:32:39,199
guard belts looking to score, you
know, fighting, then half an hour

1336
01:32:39,359 --> 01:32:42,520
later gold and Jake Beer. I
mean, you know, tell me the

1337
01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:45,760
Canadians are friendly and say polite things
to each other. You know, it

1338
01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:48,840
is what it is. But no, I'm I'm cool with that. Um,

1339
01:32:49,560 --> 01:32:53,720
you know, but the well,
there's technology again. I mean,

1340
01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:58,720
maybe they need six different ice making
cooing machines in the uh, you know,

1341
01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:00,439
a biggest arena, I just to
make sure the ice surface survives.

1342
01:33:00,479 --> 01:33:04,359
But that's okay. We can get
out there and and it's a good sport

1343
01:33:04,399 --> 01:33:11,039
that shared around the world right to
follow up Seattle and Las Vegas next year

1344
01:33:11,079 --> 01:33:13,560
in Seattle, and it's going to
be indoors. What kind of winter classics

1345
01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:15,520
indoors in Seattle, that's it.
Yeah, I don't know about that.

1346
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:17,880
Yeah, but Seattle. You know, if you have an outdoors, the

1347
01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:20,840
rainmate come in and the ice,
right, that's true, you know what

1348
01:33:20,840 --> 01:33:26,359
I mean? Hey, look,
as fans of the Buffalo Sabers, we

1349
01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:31,840
have nothing to form story. Yes, exactly exactly what happened there. I

1350
01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:38,720
mean they had what app Yeah,
you know what songs I mean. You

1351
01:33:38,760 --> 01:33:41,560
know, we look at the US
based teams and the Canadian based teams.

1352
01:33:41,680 --> 01:33:45,399
We look at the original six,
you know, and people compare and all

1353
01:33:45,399 --> 01:33:46,880
that, tham, But the original
six you had more of an elite structure

1354
01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:50,520
because there's only six teams, you
know, one hundred thousand kids trying to

1355
01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:55,319
make it into the league. So
the branch the WHL formed and merging with

1356
01:33:55,359 --> 01:33:58,960
the NHL and all this stuff.
This is a good thing if they wanted

1357
01:33:59,039 --> 01:34:02,399
to do anything at cities like Hamilton
to get a team and Toronto Detroit to

1358
01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:05,680
just suck it up and share the
walls. Ye money in that area yea

1359
01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:10,479
and Buffalo made a little say into
that. You got three teams like right

1360
01:34:10,520 --> 01:34:13,720
next door to each other. You
know, um, carry on, carry

1361
01:34:13,760 --> 01:34:15,720
on, like I think full well, there's places to have other teams.

1362
01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:19,199
Maybe Reginers should get a team.
You want to put another Canadian team in

1363
01:34:19,279 --> 01:34:21,359
there. People say, well,
I don't know if they can make it.

1364
01:34:21,439 --> 01:34:24,760
Well, Quebec, their biggest problem
is that, you know, if

1365
01:34:24,760 --> 01:34:27,159
they don't get a winning team,
they don't want the team right once.

1366
01:34:27,199 --> 01:34:33,000
You're all so put one in Halifax. Don't tell me that Winnipeg can house

1367
01:34:33,039 --> 01:34:34,920
a team. When you look at
the NHL, I mean, how many

1368
01:34:35,039 --> 01:34:41,560
NHL players come out of Western Canada. You know Alberta Sa Scatchrin in Manitoba.

1369
01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:44,159
Both of them are from Edmonton.
You know, when you look at

1370
01:34:44,199 --> 01:34:46,159
the percentage you've got, what is
it, sixty three percent of the league

1371
01:34:46,199 --> 01:34:49,520
players are Canadian and of that more
than get the seven percent of the coming

1372
01:34:49,640 --> 01:34:54,560
of Edington. Yeow, so,
okay, a team in Saskatoon. Put

1373
01:34:54,640 --> 01:34:56,680
it, Put a team, yeah, yeah, put it. Put a

1374
01:34:56,760 --> 01:34:59,279
team in Saskatoon, or one in
Regina, or maybe in both cities,

1375
01:35:00,239 --> 01:35:02,520
sell it and come back in Toronto. Those are the only two. Yeah,

1376
01:35:02,600 --> 01:35:06,720
well you know what it is.
I laughed from people say, well,

1377
01:35:06,760 --> 01:35:09,880
you know, people don't want to
drive like an hour and a half

1378
01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:13,560
to watch a hockey game into Scotchman. They're talking a bunch of people that

1379
01:35:13,600 --> 01:35:16,479
were drive two hours to sit outside
watching a football game in the Canadian football

1380
01:35:17,359 --> 01:35:21,159
So what else does it to do
in Saskatoon in December? Yeah, isn't

1381
01:35:21,159 --> 01:35:26,640
it? Stared on the pump?
Yeah? By the way, you know,

1382
01:35:26,920 --> 01:35:30,439
from where we sit, I believe
he was. Was he the first

1383
01:35:30,479 --> 01:35:34,159
American captain of the Montreal Canadian?
Sort of? Theo was the first solo

1384
01:35:34,359 --> 01:35:41,359
solo American cap, solo American caps
from from right here? Yeah, did

1385
01:35:41,439 --> 01:35:45,880
you find did you find Bill Barilco? Was that you did? I?

1386
01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:48,800
Who did you Bill Barilco? When
he when the heat he died on a

1387
01:35:48,840 --> 01:35:51,479
fishing trip, but they found him
nine years later, and that's when the

1388
01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:55,319
Leafs finally want a cup again.
They could They couldn't win a cup to

1389
01:35:56,399 --> 01:35:58,800
sixty two. So I'm asking did
you find him? Were you the guy

1390
01:35:58,800 --> 01:36:01,840
who found Bill Barilico? No,
No, I'm not that. I just

1391
01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:08,239
wonder. Tragical Dad was an avid
Toronto fan, you know, and back

1392
01:36:08,279 --> 01:36:10,760
then I looked at them just to
be a little well you know what kind

1393
01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:13,319
of to serve. I'm talking about
guys as well. I like months roll,

1394
01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:16,920
you know, so that heat it
up the whole, the winner,

1395
01:36:17,039 --> 01:36:20,279
you know what I mean. But
I remember seven year old kid and you

1396
01:36:20,399 --> 01:36:24,279
know they understand the cup and he
would literally go, kid, shut up.

1397
01:36:25,840 --> 01:36:28,600
Yeah, you know, and munch
all. I mean they've done some

1398
01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:30,439
dumb things like leave the cup sitting
on the street corner, have a fall

1399
01:36:30,520 --> 01:36:33,119
through the ice, and a sort
of playing king stuff. But at least

1400
01:36:33,119 --> 01:36:38,039
they wanted more than every team.
Now since you know, the Atlanta Flames

1401
01:36:38,159 --> 01:36:41,359
became the Calgary Flames and the although
Centators came back in the fold, I

1402
01:36:41,479 --> 01:36:45,720
kind of like readjusted my alliance there
a little bit, you know sort of

1403
01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:49,720
thing. But you know it's a
good spree of core and rivalry. Yeah,

1404
01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:53,600
you know, and you have these
teams you could you could talk about

1405
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:56,600
Toronto and Montreal. Where you can
talk about Boston and Montreal. You can

1406
01:36:56,680 --> 01:37:00,039
talk to Toronto and Detroit, you
know, I mean hoggle back in the

1407
01:37:00,319 --> 01:37:03,199
you know, stuff like that,
and uh, you know, you get

1408
01:37:03,239 --> 01:37:05,720
out now. It's good that you
see, you know, these other teams

1409
01:37:05,760 --> 01:37:09,039
starting to come up and that's probably
good for the nights, you know what

1410
01:37:09,039 --> 01:37:11,640
I mean, Just like, Okay, you're I'm a ball team, but

1411
01:37:11,720 --> 01:37:15,159
hey you want it. Yeah,
so let's let's get another Western team,

1412
01:37:15,199 --> 01:37:16,960
Mountain Wyoming or something, you know
what I mean. Yeah, Casper,

1413
01:37:17,079 --> 01:37:20,159
we'll get out like they don't have
winter, No, I mean they have

1414
01:37:20,239 --> 01:37:25,399
winter. I think eleven months out
of the year. Uh rick. Oh

1415
01:37:25,399 --> 01:37:27,960
if we're wasn't for Colorado, you've
written all the exists in the winter,

1416
01:37:28,039 --> 01:37:30,560
you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, you're right. Yeah,

1417
01:37:30,840 --> 01:37:33,560
it's been a pleasure. I really
really appreciate you. The name of your

1418
01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:39,720
company is Aquatic Adventures Florida incorporate Cardic
Adventures to Florida. Yeah, Florida.

1419
01:37:39,800 --> 01:37:43,800
I own that. I own an
online thing called zeal Express. Huh.

1420
01:37:44,520 --> 01:37:46,359
I've been a diver since nineteen seventy
six, so I've been at this water

1421
01:37:46,479 --> 01:37:50,560
team for a little while. No, not, that's nineteen ninety six.

1422
01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:55,039
Yeah. Well it's no socialize that's
what I do. Um sort of thing,

1423
01:37:55,600 --> 01:37:58,079
you know, some words are at
a little bit of a military curat

1424
01:37:58,119 --> 01:38:01,079
to step in for thirty years,
but done with the diving and it's it's

1425
01:38:01,159 --> 01:38:03,880
dummy. Well, well, very
good, and I appreciate it. You

1426
01:38:03,960 --> 01:38:10,239
really explain that well. And I
hope things do work out for the Titan

1427
01:38:10,600 --> 01:38:15,479
and Ocean Gate. Yeah I do, I do, but I say I

1428
01:38:15,560 --> 01:38:18,399
see things going to have to change. Yeah, but we'll we're learning that

1429
01:38:18,560 --> 01:38:23,399
after, hopefully after he's successful recovered
and rescue. All right, well,

1430
01:38:23,479 --> 01:38:26,760
thank you again for your time.
Well, thank you sir, byebye,

1431
01:38:27,520 --> 01:38:30,960
have a good day in good evening
too. There he goes Rick Murker.

1432
01:38:30,479 --> 01:38:38,119
If you are Hamish harding, it's
relatives. He's a British billionaire. Are

1433
01:38:38,199 --> 01:38:43,800
you hoping they find Are you thinking? Am I in the will? Don't?

1434
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:47,319
Don't tell me there isn't some end. They're all thicking. I was

1435
01:38:47,319 --> 01:38:50,560
probably gonna suspend the boat for six
weeks. Doug Phelps is probably dating somebody

1436
01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:54,359
in that family right now, and
he's probably waiting for the will reading.

1437
01:38:55,960 --> 01:38:59,680
I'll tell you no matter what goes
wrong with that, with that submarine,

1438
01:38:59,680 --> 01:39:02,319
I can say one thing. At
least, it's not a keel they've got.

1439
01:39:02,560 --> 01:39:05,439
Now. I don't want to sound
stupid interview, but they've got somebody

1440
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:10,720
from this submarine company that's driving this
thing. It's not just like we paid

1441
01:39:10,760 --> 01:39:14,920
our money. In Danny's I drive
it. I believe no, and you

1442
01:39:15,079 --> 01:39:17,720
heard on I believe yes. I
believe the answer is yes. I think

1443
01:39:17,760 --> 01:39:20,159
when you're the passenger, you're just
he only had a permit, not a

1444
01:39:20,239 --> 01:39:25,279
license. Um. But they're texting
down the coordinates because you can't see and

1445
01:39:25,399 --> 01:39:30,000
there's no GPS underneath the ocean.
But it just didn't sound like they had

1446
01:39:30,079 --> 01:39:34,079
somebody from this company. They do
it, and the CEO was on is

1447
01:39:34,319 --> 01:39:38,760
in there now, so that that
we know, we will take a moment.

1448
01:39:38,880 --> 01:39:44,119
Talk a little DeAndre Hopkins U and
sex stortion in the NBA sex store

1449
01:39:44,279 --> 01:39:46,800
sex Storeship. Yes, you'll get
to that, plus a little Wikipedia Fine

1450
01:39:47,319 --> 01:39:50,279
Land of Legends. Raceway in Canadegua, Oh, they got it going on

1451
01:39:50,640 --> 01:39:56,680
on Saturday nights. Whether you're looking
for something kind of adrenaline rush or you

1452
01:39:56,760 --> 01:39:58,880
just want to take in a nice
race, it is the place to be.

1453
01:39:59,000 --> 01:40:00,880
It's a lot of fun race and
Randy goes down there every week and

1454
01:40:00,920 --> 01:40:04,439
he always calls me and tells me
any money, yeah, how things are

1455
01:40:04,439 --> 01:40:11,399
going with you? But they have
new grandstands and infield JumboTron so you don't

1456
01:40:11,399 --> 01:40:14,279
miss any of the action. And
if you've got kids, bring them down

1457
01:40:14,399 --> 01:40:16,600
because it's so fun for the kids. They got this little Legends Kids Club

1458
01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:20,279
where you can make crass but also
meet the drivers. Maybe sit in the

1459
01:40:20,359 --> 01:40:24,000
car. Maybe I don't want to, you know, if these guys are

1460
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:26,039
getting ready for the race, but
you get up close with the cars,

1461
01:40:26,159 --> 01:40:29,640
you get to see that, and
I think that's uh open to a kid's

1462
01:40:29,680 --> 01:40:31,520
mind to things, you know what
I mean, the possibilities in life.

1463
01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:35,039
And of course when hunger strikes.
So they think Kevin was saying they got

1464
01:40:35,119 --> 01:40:39,760
meatballs, they probably do. They
got mouthwatering concessions, food trucks that will

1465
01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:44,760
satisfy any craving. So find their
schedule at Land of Legends Raceway dot com

1466
01:40:45,399 --> 01:40:47,840
and check them out at twenty A
twenty County Row ten and let the adventure

1467
01:40:47,880 --> 01:40:53,439
begin at Land of Legends Raceway,
Victor Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram Route ninety six

1468
01:40:53,560 --> 01:40:58,159
in Victor and online at Victor C
d JR dot com. Are you ready

1469
01:40:58,199 --> 01:41:00,319
for the best night of Summer?
So I am billy. It's gonna be

1470
01:41:00,399 --> 01:41:04,159
Friday, August eighteenth. It's the
Flower City Brewers Fest and it's hosted by

1471
01:41:04,439 --> 01:41:10,279
Roarerbock Brewing Company. Rochester's original craft
brewery. It's gonna be at the Public

1472
01:41:10,359 --> 01:41:14,439
Market, live music from the Brothers
Blue, They'll be great food from Rochester's

1473
01:41:14,479 --> 01:41:19,399
favorite food trucks, and over sixty
five breweries, sixty five. It's incredible.

1474
01:41:20,000 --> 01:41:23,239
And it's not just any beer festival. What I like to think of

1475
01:41:23,319 --> 01:41:26,159
this is the beer community. Right. We know a lot of guys in

1476
01:41:26,199 --> 01:41:30,800
the beer community. Do they not
help the rising tide of beer? Floats

1477
01:41:30,840 --> 01:41:33,920
all kegs, all kecks, and
they help each other out. And cups

1478
01:41:33,960 --> 01:41:38,239
and it's right, all cups,
that's right, all your solo cups and

1479
01:41:38,279 --> 01:41:40,520
then the cups, more cups.
You drank the butter of the music's souse,

1480
01:41:40,560 --> 01:41:43,760
but you get to see the craftsmanship
and the creativity that goes into this.

1481
01:41:44,159 --> 01:41:47,680
And Roerbock Brewing Company is brought together
sixty five local breweries, so you're

1482
01:41:47,680 --> 01:41:53,800
gonnet everything from barrelaid stouts to heavily
fruited sours and everything in between, everything

1483
01:41:53,840 --> 01:41:58,119
in between. If it's out there, it's gonna be passing your lips at

1484
01:41:58,199 --> 01:42:00,560
the Flower City Brewers Fest. Now
the IP tickets have sold out, general

1485
01:42:00,640 --> 01:42:05,119
mission tickets are going quickly. You
go to Flower City Brewers Fast that's with

1486
01:42:05,199 --> 01:42:11,319
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1487
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night of summer Flower City Brewers Fast
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1488
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1492
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1494
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1496
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out that way, easy and convenient. Then there's the original location in Caledonia

1498
01:42:59,399 --> 01:43:02,439
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1499
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1501
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now at all area Myers locations.
She consisted love to be, then she

1502
01:43:24,960 --> 01:43:30,199
vanished on the breeze, trying to
hold onto that was just impossible. She

1503
01:43:30,600 --> 01:43:36,520
was lovely beautiful, close to to
therea with a kind of down to earth

1504
01:43:38,000 --> 01:44:09,560
flavor like the ocean clo all there
a real life. She's really gone some

1505
01:44:09,720 --> 01:44:14,079
class. Is this a mix solo? No? No? Yeah? Bridges

1506
01:44:14,119 --> 01:44:17,720
the ball Katie Katie Lange. The
record company thought he was ripping her off

1507
01:44:18,279 --> 01:44:21,279
with the chorus, so he gave
her a writing credit. I still don't

1508
01:44:21,319 --> 01:44:26,079
hear it on this one too,
No, I can, and now they

1509
01:44:26,199 --> 01:44:29,840
bring it up. I remember that, Yeah, it was what was her

1510
01:44:29,920 --> 01:44:35,199
song that cost? Yeah? Well, we had this guy named Tom in

1511
01:44:35,239 --> 01:44:38,479
high school but had their bowl cuts. Well he had really black hair,

1512
01:44:38,560 --> 01:44:45,840
so we called Katie Lange hated it, and of course, of course I

1513
01:44:45,119 --> 01:44:50,159
laughed, because today if there were
somebody that we all knew, I go,

1514
01:44:50,680 --> 01:44:53,680
hey, man, how's Katie Lange? But I would say it to

1515
01:44:53,760 --> 01:45:00,079
you guys. Ye, spoiler town
was Dan. Oh no, this dude.

1516
01:45:00,119 --> 01:45:02,239
We invited him to the to the
class reunion. We had a class

1517
01:45:02,319 --> 01:45:06,239
reunione coming up in July twenty five
years. Yeah, and he won't return

1518
01:45:06,319 --> 01:45:11,159
my messages. May say, we
have a constant craving to see you.

1519
01:45:12,199 --> 01:45:15,119
Should we call him on the show
the number? We'll have to see what

1520
01:45:15,119 --> 01:45:19,039
we could track him down? Uh. Wikipedia is a is a great thing

1521
01:45:19,319 --> 01:45:26,960
ken there and you can find out
information. And Kevin did a little Wikipedia

1522
01:45:27,039 --> 01:45:30,960
research on something that was said earlier
on the program today. Yes, where's

1523
01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:33,800
mcfolly from whale com No, he's
not. He's from Long Island. He

1524
01:45:33,880 --> 01:45:40,600
was born in Indiana. He moved
to Long Island maybe Wikipedia. Yeah,

1525
01:45:40,640 --> 01:45:42,680
but you know what, he's not
that far off because where do you go

1526
01:45:42,720 --> 01:45:46,399
to the court for college? I
thought because I thought that he had spent

1527
01:45:46,479 --> 01:45:49,560
time in Whitland. Well, then
you might be right. I don't maybe

1528
01:45:49,680 --> 01:45:54,479
I have no Okay excited he was
so excited to jump on you because it

1529
01:45:54,560 --> 01:45:58,359
was the last wrestling thing, the
last yeah right, yeah yeah, de

1530
01:45:58,479 --> 01:46:01,039
Eric Bischoff situations right, all right. I left when he came back in

1531
01:46:01,079 --> 01:46:04,760
the from the bathroom, like I
just want him to tell because if you

1532
01:46:04,880 --> 01:46:08,600
said anything, I thought it'd be
funny to bring it up. But Danny

1533
01:46:08,640 --> 01:46:11,680
doesn't react to stuff. He's just
like, yeah, I got it wrong,

1534
01:46:11,720 --> 01:46:14,000
all right, said Danny. I
didn't know what men either earlier.

1535
01:46:14,159 --> 01:46:17,319
I didn't. I did. I
was Kevin, Oh, I was introducing

1536
01:46:17,399 --> 01:46:19,720
what I thought of men. But
I don't. I don't know what does

1537
01:46:19,760 --> 01:46:25,239
it stands like? I didn't mean
like that. But I'm like, are

1538
01:46:25,239 --> 01:46:29,439
they embracing this? Uh? One
of the guy won't call you back.

1539
01:46:29,800 --> 01:46:33,800
So I'm I'm seeing when I watched
any kind of sports, there are a

1540
01:46:33,880 --> 01:46:36,159
couple of things that they're talking about
right now. The big trade in the

1541
01:46:36,279 --> 01:46:43,039
NBA, Chris Paul leaving the Phoenix, but then sort of a what's knocked

1542
01:46:43,079 --> 01:46:48,800
down to Tier two NBA wise?
Is what is happening with a guy everybody

1543
01:46:48,880 --> 01:46:54,760
thought was gonna be an absolute stud
in the NBA. I didn't. You

1544
01:46:54,880 --> 01:46:57,880
didn't. I didn't think Zion Williamson
was gonna be a spell Zion Williamson.

1545
01:46:58,239 --> 01:47:00,119
I think people did think that.
Oh yeah, there were plenty of people

1546
01:47:00,119 --> 01:47:02,880
who did. Has he been in
the league for three years now? Yes?

1547
01:47:03,159 --> 01:47:06,760
Eighty two game seasons, Yes,
He's played one hundred and nineteen games

1548
01:47:06,880 --> 01:47:12,319
right, three years, but now
he was overweighted. Yeah. Shoot,

1549
01:47:12,399 --> 01:47:15,319
remember he exploded out of his shoe. Yes, that was a duke,

1550
01:47:15,560 --> 01:47:19,159
Yeah right, yes, I mean
I think the guy's a phenomenal athlete and

1551
01:47:19,279 --> 01:47:21,880
he looks like he could play.
If he stayed healthy, he'd be a

1552
01:47:23,640 --> 01:47:27,840
I think, a force in the
NBA. But all that Cajun food caught

1553
01:47:27,920 --> 01:47:30,640
up with him. Well, I
don't know. Nobody wants to be in

1554
01:47:30,680 --> 01:47:33,159
New Orleans. Ady didn't want to
be there. Zion don't want to be

1555
01:47:33,239 --> 01:47:36,880
there. Yon thinks he's better than
that. Okay, so nobody wants to

1556
01:47:38,159 --> 01:47:42,239
Nobody wants to play with Zion.
There's it's coming out too that and more,

1557
01:47:42,880 --> 01:47:47,079
not on these shows, not on
like Sports Center, but I'm seeing

1558
01:47:47,159 --> 01:47:55,239
more and more about him partying a
bit and hanging out with women and having

1559
01:47:55,319 --> 01:47:59,399
sex. And now there's a porn
star. I think her name is Mariah

1560
01:47:59,479 --> 01:48:05,800
Mills. And Mariah says that she
has sex tapes of her and Zion and

1561
01:48:06,640 --> 01:48:12,399
he also has them on his trap
phone, she says, And she says,

1562
01:48:12,560 --> 01:48:15,800
the New Orleans Pelicans trade him.
Now he doesn't deserve to be in

1563
01:48:15,840 --> 01:48:19,000
New Orleans sex tapes dropping soon?
And I'm going, who, what's a

1564
01:48:19,079 --> 01:48:23,239
trap phone? A trap phone?
Would I think a trap phone is like

1565
01:48:23,319 --> 01:48:27,760
your phone that you keep for your
side piece, like it's a second phone.

1566
01:48:28,000 --> 01:48:30,680
Oh no, I don't know,
but like a burner for your baby.

1567
01:48:30,840 --> 01:48:34,039
I'm I'm deducing that. Yes,
most people will call it her burner.

1568
01:48:34,520 --> 01:48:39,479
You got this? This this news
too for sex workers? What is

1569
01:48:39,520 --> 01:48:41,560
that? I don't know what did
you tell me? Because I guess the

1570
01:48:42,079 --> 01:48:45,000
ranches are all offering the night golden
knife players? Are they fun nights?

1571
01:48:45,199 --> 01:48:50,000
Fun nights? Fun nights? That's
funny? But what happens with with this

1572
01:48:50,359 --> 01:48:55,960
if she drops his sex tape?
Like, I don't even I think it's

1573
01:48:56,039 --> 01:49:00,239
more to get attention to her if
she's in a Yeah, And I don't

1574
01:49:00,279 --> 01:49:02,119
think anybody cares about the Zion Williamson
thing. And I don't think that.

1575
01:49:02,279 --> 01:49:05,720
Yeah, the NBA's like, don't
threaten us with a good job. It's

1576
01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:10,239
like, come on, And I
don't know. I think the NBA's in

1577
01:49:10,399 --> 01:49:14,479
pretty good shape. And I think
Zion Williamson I feel bad, But I

1578
01:49:14,520 --> 01:49:17,000
don't know if the guy, I
think he may be what some people refer

1579
01:49:17,079 --> 01:49:20,760
to as a cancer. Oh I
was gonna say a bust. Oh yeah,

1580
01:49:20,760 --> 01:49:23,880
he could be. I wonder,
I do wonder he could be.

1581
01:49:24,000 --> 01:49:27,399
I mean I I remember watching the
draft going I would take Luca and it

1582
01:49:27,600 --> 01:49:29,640
was like, yeah, but you
don't know what I mean. He played

1583
01:49:29,680 --> 01:49:31,720
with pros in Europe, right,
but it was between him. The best

1584
01:49:31,760 --> 01:49:35,720
players now are coming out of Europe. Oh dude, the best player ever,

1585
01:49:36,119 --> 01:49:40,039
the best prospect ever is coming out
of Europe. You know. I

1586
01:49:40,119 --> 01:49:43,880
mean I I look at it and
go the game is becoming European. I

1587
01:49:43,960 --> 01:49:47,960
think that the Dream Team in ninety
two injected the world with heyst the best

1588
01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:51,079
basketball is he played the United States, just like the best soccers played in

1589
01:49:51,159 --> 01:49:54,560
Europe. Yeah. You know,
even if the best players, some of

1590
01:49:54,640 --> 01:49:57,359
them are from South America, they
all play in Europe, you know.

1591
01:49:57,479 --> 01:50:00,439
And the United States is the place
to play basketball. But the best players

1592
01:50:00,439 --> 01:50:01,880
are now coming out of out of
the rest of the world. Why because

1593
01:50:01,920 --> 01:50:05,479
they have to grow up sooner in
college. I mean, these guys can

1594
01:50:05,520 --> 01:50:08,600
really come out of high school for
one year they're in college that you have

1595
01:50:08,600 --> 01:50:12,079
I'm going to the NBA there.
Their maturity level sucks. When's the draft

1596
01:50:12,239 --> 01:50:14,239
is coming up, like in a
couple of days, yes, tomorrow,

1597
01:50:15,520 --> 01:50:18,600
Thursday, but yes, so uh, I think the number one pick is

1598
01:50:18,960 --> 01:50:23,840
a European. Yeah, it's gonna
be win Bognana from Who's gonna be taken

1599
01:50:23,960 --> 01:50:27,960
by He's from France. He's gonna
be taken by a freaking Popovich's at San

1600
01:50:28,039 --> 01:50:30,399
Antonio guys, one of the I
want to say he's the luckiest coach,

1601
01:50:30,479 --> 01:50:33,039
but I mean, like his system
stopped working once he lost players all of

1602
01:50:33,039 --> 01:50:36,279
a sudden, His system doesn't work
anymore. He's a he's a systems guy,

1603
01:50:36,760 --> 01:50:41,560
but his system worked when he had
great players. Now, to his

1604
01:50:41,680 --> 01:50:43,960
credit, he selected him, but
he also won the lot I mean,

1605
01:50:44,920 --> 01:50:46,479
you want to hear, you want
to hear a great story. Rick Pettino

1606
01:50:46,520 --> 01:50:51,199
would still be probably coaching in the
NBA if the Celtics and not the Spurs

1607
01:50:51,239 --> 01:50:56,479
had won the lottery and got the
draft Tim Duncan and you would have never

1608
01:50:56,600 --> 01:50:59,920
heard of Gregg Popovich. Wow,
yeah, yeah, you gotta have players.

1609
01:51:00,159 --> 01:51:02,359
Yeah, well Duncan player, he
was that that guy. Yeah.

1610
01:51:02,359 --> 01:51:06,279
The big fundamental is they called one
of the most boring stars ever. Uh.

1611
01:51:06,520 --> 01:51:10,800
Meanwhile, we look over at the
NFL and I don't know Kevin.

1612
01:51:11,199 --> 01:51:14,039
There hasn't been any movement on DeAndre
Hopkins. They said it's not going to

1613
01:51:14,079 --> 01:51:16,520
be for a while. They said
it could be closer to camp really would

1614
01:51:16,560 --> 01:51:20,600
make any moves. He wants him
a ridiculous amount of money for a guy

1615
01:51:20,640 --> 01:51:25,439
who can't get separation. And if
you can't get separation, you're worthless.

1616
01:51:25,720 --> 01:51:30,680
So New England are the betting favorite
still, at least in Vegas. Okay.

1617
01:51:30,520 --> 01:51:35,920
Uh, the line implies Vegas believes
they're precisely a fifty percent chance Hopkins

1618
01:51:36,079 --> 01:51:41,319
ends up Hopkins ends up in New
England. And do they desperately need a

1619
01:51:41,359 --> 01:51:46,399
wide receiver? Yes? Yes?
For years? Well, Brian the new

1620
01:51:46,600 --> 01:51:50,960
offensive corner. He was Houston Bill
O'Brien. Uh, he was the head

1621
01:51:51,000 --> 01:51:56,760
coach in Houston. Who there,
Yes, he did. On paper,

1622
01:51:56,880 --> 01:51:59,920
it looks like a pretty good fit. Him and O'Brien didn't get along.

1623
01:52:00,520 --> 01:52:08,000
Okay, So the number two spot
for him to land according to Vegas odds

1624
01:52:08,199 --> 01:52:12,720
plus three hundred and fifty the Rochester
Jeffersons, you got it, you're absolutely

1625
01:52:12,800 --> 01:52:18,520
right, semi protein. The Buffalo
bill. That's the Alby Firebirds. The

1626
01:52:18,640 --> 01:52:24,800
Buffalo Bills feel like an obvious landing
spot. According to this article, given

1627
01:52:25,159 --> 01:52:30,680
Allan's potential MVP being a at least
he's an MVP candidate, right, we

1628
01:52:30,760 --> 01:52:33,119
can say that, uh, and
they're a contender, but they're saying they

1629
01:52:33,199 --> 01:52:39,319
think it's very doubtful because Buffalo only
has about five million dollars in cap room.

1630
01:52:39,720 --> 01:52:43,359
Now, a lot of people are
saying that some of the drama was

1631
01:52:43,399 --> 01:52:47,079
Stefon Diggs was over the fact that
he was told they were going to get

1632
01:52:47,119 --> 01:52:51,840
DeAndre Hopkins and when he showed up, they told him that wasn't the case,

1633
01:52:53,039 --> 01:52:57,840
and he flipped out because once,
I don't know, according to the

1634
01:52:57,960 --> 01:53:01,479
language in the CBA everything, they
can restructure your contracts because you get paid.

1635
01:53:01,640 --> 01:53:04,359
Yes, they don't have to have
you agreed to it. As long

1636
01:53:04,359 --> 01:53:08,119
as you get your money. It
doesn't matter how you get your money.

1637
01:53:08,680 --> 01:53:11,000
That's just simple way. So it's
a little bit more complicated than that.

1638
01:53:11,239 --> 01:53:15,720
And so the story is that he
could be upset that either he was or

1639
01:53:15,800 --> 01:53:17,439
wasn't coming to town that they might
bring him in and they might not bring

1640
01:53:17,520 --> 01:53:20,239
him in. Well, then why
I get restructured and blah blah blah,

1641
01:53:20,600 --> 01:53:24,720
and you know, and Josh Allen
had alluded the fact that it wasn't a

1642
01:53:24,760 --> 01:53:29,119
football issue. Well everything's a football
issue, but it could be a money

1643
01:53:29,199 --> 01:53:32,439
issue. I mean, like it. It's a different FFing rumor every single

1644
01:53:32,560 --> 01:53:36,720
day with this dude, is Miami
on your list? Because Miami is not

1645
01:53:36,920 --> 01:53:42,039
on my list. Number three,
according to this is the Tennessee Tight I

1646
01:53:42,079 --> 01:53:45,760
can see that, and the Tennessee
Titans supposedly. Now Buffalo is the two

1647
01:53:45,760 --> 01:53:48,239
teams that I've talked to him into
bells. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

1648
01:53:48,319 --> 01:53:51,359
He hasn't had a visit there,
and I don't know. Oh,

1649
01:53:51,439 --> 01:53:55,520
he's in New York now with the
Giants or Jets. Jets with the Jets.

1650
01:53:55,600 --> 01:53:59,079
Excuse me, so he's meeting with
the Jets. I think they're like

1651
01:53:59,199 --> 01:54:03,000
fourth or fifth. According to this, it goes uh New England, Buffalo,

1652
01:54:03,399 --> 01:54:06,640
the Tennessee Titans, where they said
the meeting went great. But one

1653
01:54:06,720 --> 01:54:11,760
of the things they think is holding
it back is they flew. They floom

1654
01:54:11,920 --> 01:54:19,079
to Nashville on Southwest. Okay,
well it's a Southwest hub and from south

1655
01:54:21,000 --> 01:54:27,840
well it's all, but it's a
superstar athlete that you're trying to land.

1656
01:54:27,960 --> 01:54:33,560
Don't worry, mister Hopkins, don't
you don't you get them better than mister

1657
01:54:33,640 --> 01:54:39,880
Craft. No, couldn't they get
Vince Young? Couldn't they get Vince Young

1658
01:54:39,960 --> 01:54:42,640
to buy out all the seats like
he did before on the southwest of the

1659
01:54:44,359 --> 01:54:47,920
reason I said Miami is Terreek Hill
is apparently under investigation for allegedly striking a

1660
01:54:48,039 --> 01:54:54,520
Marina employee god over the weekend.
So, by the way, Kansas City

1661
01:54:54,560 --> 01:54:57,279
made out like bandits on that trade. And by the way, the fourth

1662
01:54:57,359 --> 01:55:04,439
team in this the Lions. They
were they were ten to one. Yeah,

1663
01:55:04,479 --> 01:55:10,840
but Helvin and that's what the So
the NFL wants to get the Lions

1664
01:55:10,920 --> 01:55:14,880
to do hard knocks again because they
were very interesting. People were very curious

1665
01:55:14,880 --> 01:55:16,079
about the Lions, like why have
the Lions been so bad for years?

1666
01:55:16,119 --> 01:55:19,640
But their head coach, of course, Dan Campbell is a nut, but

1667
01:55:19,720 --> 01:55:23,560
he's a good nut, and he's
fun to he's fun, he's fun to

1668
01:55:23,640 --> 01:55:26,800
root for, and if you watched
it, it was actually a lot of

1669
01:55:26,840 --> 01:55:29,319
fun. It was probably the most
fun and a long time. And so

1670
01:55:29,560 --> 01:55:31,920
they're climbing and their offensive coordinator Ben
Johnson, they think is gonna be like

1671
01:55:31,960 --> 01:55:35,960
a front runner for the next NFL
head coaching job because he's an offensive mine.

1672
01:55:36,000 --> 01:55:40,119
And he got he's getting Jared Goff
to play football again. He's getting

1673
01:55:40,159 --> 01:55:43,039
that team to move the ball,
and de Hoot might be a good landing

1674
01:55:43,079 --> 01:55:45,800
spot for them. I thought that
isn't interesting. I thought it was in

1675
01:55:45,880 --> 01:55:47,560
the CBA they couldn't do. You
know, no, they don't have to.

1676
01:55:47,800 --> 01:55:49,880
Once you've done it, you don't
have to do it again. The

1677
01:55:50,039 --> 01:55:53,479
NFL wants them to do it.
They're saying, no, we're not doing

1678
01:55:53,560 --> 01:55:55,439
that again. Okay, so you
don't have to do it. You don't

1679
01:55:55,439 --> 01:55:59,520
have to do it again. But
the NFL wants them. I think they

1680
01:55:59,640 --> 01:56:02,000
got a great defensive pick last year
in the draft, and I think that

1681
01:56:02,159 --> 01:56:06,840
the not previous year twenty twenty,
they got some premium, premium, primo

1682
01:56:06,960 --> 01:56:10,560
games. I think they have the
season opener against Kansas City this year.

1683
01:56:11,399 --> 01:56:14,159
Red White and Blue, Red White
and Blue, Red White and Brew.

1684
01:56:14,960 --> 01:56:16,840
That's exactly what I was trying to
say. Red White and Brew is your

1685
01:56:16,960 --> 01:56:21,199
place you need to know for date
night. It is a here's what it

1686
01:56:21,359 --> 01:56:26,920
is. It's a tap and tasting
room that focuses on New York state wine.

1687
01:56:27,279 --> 01:56:30,000
So if you can't get to all
the wineries down in the Finger Lakes,

1688
01:56:30,279 --> 01:56:32,000
go to Red White and Brew.
You get there and then you can

1689
01:56:32,079 --> 01:56:34,880
get a flight, you get a
charcuterie board, you sit quietly. It's

1690
01:56:34,920 --> 01:56:39,960
a really cool what an impressive date
spot. I would think like a great

1691
01:56:40,000 --> 01:56:42,920
place to escape. Maybe even have
like a team meeting if you have a

1692
01:56:43,000 --> 01:56:46,960
small company, bring everybody out.
Oh hint, yeah, let's have a

1693
01:56:47,079 --> 01:56:53,119
brand stormy Red White and Brew there
on one forty seven State Street in the

1694
01:56:53,199 --> 01:56:57,079
City of Rochester. Parking is available
after five in the fitzhu Street parking lot

1695
01:56:57,199 --> 01:57:00,840
next to City Hall, and you
can always learn more at Red White and

1696
01:57:00,960 --> 01:57:03,079
Brew rock dot com. I know
we were going to say that save this

1697
01:57:03,199 --> 01:57:09,960
till tomorrow, but Danny's brother was
listening to the podcast from a Father's Day

1698
01:57:10,359 --> 01:57:14,239
when we talked about the Hilton pooper
live from Tampa, and I haven't gotten

1699
01:57:14,319 --> 01:57:15,800
more reports on the Hilton pooper,
and I'll have to go and see if

1700
01:57:15,840 --> 01:57:19,319
I can find some more things.
But this is a person who, according

1701
01:57:19,399 --> 01:57:23,680
to what I learned, and it
hasn't hit the news that it was somebody

1702
01:57:23,800 --> 01:57:26,000
walking their dog. And again,
it could be somebody from a couple of

1703
01:57:26,000 --> 01:57:29,319
streets over that you're not familiar with
coming down to your street. This woman

1704
01:57:29,439 --> 01:57:33,079
let her dog continuously crap in somebody's
yard. They confronted the woman, she

1705
01:57:33,279 --> 01:57:35,920
got pissed and came back at night, and they have her on a ring

1706
01:57:36,000 --> 01:57:41,000
doorbell taking a dump in the yard. I would bet money she's from the

1707
01:57:41,039 --> 01:57:45,319
apartments over there by tops. I
would guarantee that where she lives. Okay,

1708
01:57:45,720 --> 01:57:50,840
why why do you say that I
live in an apartment? Come on,

1709
01:57:51,119 --> 01:57:57,319
this is not the pines of Hilton, the pines of Greasy. Alright,

1710
01:57:58,399 --> 01:58:02,039
alright, Hilton. So what did
your brother say? Glt? Okay?

1711
01:58:02,600 --> 01:58:05,239
He goes. So I listened to
the Father's Day podcast. He kind

1712
01:58:05,239 --> 01:58:08,720
of like as a Jordan Moran type
of voice. Yeah, so I listened

1713
01:58:08,720 --> 01:58:11,680
to the Father's Day podcast where you
guys were talking about the poop Lady.

1714
01:58:13,359 --> 01:58:15,600
When we lived to Colorado Springs,
we had one called the Mad Shitter.

1715
01:58:16,000 --> 01:58:18,800
It was a poop lady as well. Well. Thanks Ryan. I'm now

1716
01:58:18,880 --> 01:58:21,760
wondering if this is the same person, Like, why are we why are

1717
01:58:21,880 --> 01:58:27,119
women shitting on people's lawns? I
got I gotta tell Billy ll Yeah,

1718
01:58:28,000 --> 01:58:30,439
I was. I was like,
is this the same woman? Then he

1719
01:58:30,600 --> 01:58:33,079
sends me a picture. I don't
know if it's so. It's a Google

1720
01:58:33,119 --> 01:58:36,439
story, right, it says the
mad Pooper, and it shows a woman

1721
01:58:36,479 --> 01:58:41,600
look in a track suit, look
like she's running like a marathon or something.

1722
01:58:42,680 --> 01:58:45,239
The mad Pooper is the nickname given
it to an unidentified woman in Colorado

1723
01:58:45,279 --> 01:58:50,720
Springs, Colorado, United States,
who repeatedly defecated in public while jockey during

1724
01:58:50,760 --> 01:58:55,880
the summer months of twenty seventeen.
Pretty sure poor in the Wikipedia, she's

1725
01:58:56,039 --> 01:59:00,079
wanted. She's wanted by the Colorado
Springs police departments that July twenty seventeen.

1726
01:59:00,520 --> 01:59:03,520
He goes, that was a big
thing when I was in Colorado. She

1727
01:59:03,640 --> 01:59:06,920
was on the news like every night. They had an anonymous tip that the

1728
01:59:08,079 --> 01:59:11,399
person had a ball disorder or something, but they never caught the person.

1729
01:59:11,600 --> 01:59:15,119
And I remember this being in the
news. And there was another one in

1730
01:59:15,279 --> 01:59:19,239
Florida where a superintendent would go out
for a run every day and they caught

1731
01:59:19,359 --> 01:59:26,920
him shitting on her rival schools,
like multiple times. Mister Belding was over.

1732
01:59:27,439 --> 01:59:30,199
Mister Belding was at Valley High School
tomorrow and tomorrow. I don't mean

1733
01:59:30,279 --> 01:59:32,520
to say it this way, but
getting into the poop, it's a shit

1734
01:59:32,600 --> 01:59:36,560
shelf. And so how about we
do that story. And I get a

1735
01:59:36,640 --> 01:59:43,439
call the other day from my father
who says to me, I don't listen

1736
01:59:43,479 --> 01:59:47,159
to the podcast. Yeah, he
never listens to the podcast except when he

1737
01:59:47,199 --> 01:59:53,039
listens to the podcast. Now I
know you are your mother. Your mother

1738
01:59:53,119 --> 01:59:57,199
told me about it. He said
that I'll download and I'll speed through.

1739
01:59:57,560 --> 02:00:00,399
I don't have two hours to sit
captive. I go both people are listening

1740
02:00:00,439 --> 02:00:03,039
to what they're doing. Things right, you know, or you pause it

1741
02:00:03,119 --> 02:00:06,720
and he come back. So uh, but he said I have the ultimate

1742
02:00:06,760 --> 02:00:10,960
poop story. And I started laughing, and it's true he did. Yeah,

1743
02:00:11,279 --> 02:00:15,960
my dad was working on his doctorate
and he was going to getting it

1744
02:00:15,039 --> 02:00:20,119
at Foredom in philosophy. And I'll
never understand. And I've never asked him

1745
02:00:20,199 --> 02:00:23,920
this, and I'm sure if he
does hear this, i'll ask it now.

1746
02:00:25,119 --> 02:00:28,760
He had three kids, and he
bought himself, like he had a

1747
02:00:28,800 --> 02:00:31,439
car. My mom had a car, and he bought a two seater Fiarro.

1748
02:00:32,960 --> 02:00:34,840
He had three kids. Yeah,
you know, this is kind of

1749
02:00:34,920 --> 02:00:41,119
weird. But anyway, today's your
week for the paring. So I don't

1750
02:00:41,159 --> 02:00:45,479
know why I was awake, because
I think I might still I don't know

1751
02:00:45,560 --> 02:00:50,560
where I was in my academic career. But maybe I had taken the gap

1752
02:00:50,680 --> 02:00:55,640
year or that I call it.
I had Fisher because I know that his

1753
02:00:55,800 --> 02:00:59,720
letter of recommendation to go back for
his doctorate was written by the head of

1754
02:00:59,760 --> 02:01:01,760
the lost to his department at Fisher, who we met with when I went

1755
02:01:01,880 --> 02:01:04,439
to Fisher. So I think I
had taken a year off from Fisher.

1756
02:01:04,479 --> 02:01:09,760
And I was working. My dad
comes in and he's standing at the sink

1757
02:01:10,439 --> 02:01:14,560
and he kind of had his pants
would always kind of sag, and I'm

1758
02:01:14,600 --> 02:01:16,800
looking at his butt at the sink, is at the kitchen sink, and

1759
02:01:16,840 --> 02:01:21,600
I'm sitting there and I, God, what did you sit in? And

1760
02:01:21,720 --> 02:01:24,920
he goes, what? And I
said, what did you sit in?

1761
02:01:25,039 --> 02:01:27,319
I go it looks like a banana, but it's all in the shape of

1762
02:01:27,399 --> 02:01:29,880
a question mark. What are you
talking about? Whatever? He sticks his

1763
02:01:29,960 --> 02:01:32,720
hand back there and he feels something, and now he goes, Now,

1764
02:01:32,800 --> 02:01:39,880
my dad had had what later on
at Lahey clinic was it was said to

1765
02:01:39,960 --> 02:01:42,560
be a mild stroke. Boy,
I hope he doesn't get pissed at me

1766
02:01:42,600 --> 02:01:45,600
because I am saying things. I
don't know if he wants that information out

1767
02:01:45,720 --> 02:01:46,880
or not. Nobody like your dad, well, no, no, but

1768
02:01:46,960 --> 02:01:49,359
he lost his sense of smell.
And it was always a joke. And

1769
02:01:49,439 --> 02:01:53,399
I think I've talked about this,
like he would always say that Miss Manner

1770
02:01:53,479 --> 02:01:56,760
says, no sound below the neck
exists, so you don't acknowledge it.

1771
02:01:56,880 --> 02:02:00,359
So we used to rip farts at
dinner and just farts, and he'd go

1772
02:02:00,600 --> 02:02:01,680
my mother would be getting all upset, and he goes, I don't smell

1773
02:02:01,720 --> 02:02:04,199
anything. I don't know, I
don't hear a thing, and oh no,

1774
02:02:04,439 --> 02:02:08,119
no sound below the neck. And
but he couldn't smell it either.

1775
02:02:08,600 --> 02:02:13,720
So he drove from the Bronx,
which was two to two and a half

1776
02:02:13,760 --> 02:02:17,079
hours away from where I lived,
up the Sprain Brook and the Iconic Parkway

1777
02:02:17,079 --> 02:02:23,279
and all the way in, and
it turned out someone he had left the

1778
02:02:23,319 --> 02:02:26,600
car door unlocked. Somebody hopened it
and took a ship in his front seat,

1779
02:02:26,720 --> 02:02:30,239
someone toilet seat and moved on.
He drove all the way home in

1780
02:02:30,319 --> 02:02:31,800
it. So now it's in his
band. He told me later that he

1781
02:02:31,960 --> 02:02:35,119
was He took like three or four
hot showers, could never get a clean

1782
02:02:35,359 --> 02:02:39,920
I think when out scrubbed the car
was so I mean out of his mind,

1783
02:02:40,079 --> 02:02:44,960
disgusted, bought car seats and covered
the seats to the car and wouldn't

1784
02:02:45,000 --> 02:02:50,319
I mean, I don't know its
tyrone. Shortly after, but Yesh shit

1785
02:02:50,520 --> 02:02:54,880
in his seat and he drove all
the way home in it and sat it.

1786
02:02:55,880 --> 02:02:58,279
No, I don't believe smelled it
right. And I remember sitting there

1787
02:02:58,319 --> 02:03:01,399
and I'm laughing because I go,
it looked like it looked like shit.

1788
02:03:01,920 --> 02:03:06,439
But I'm thinking there's no way.
So sometimes, like my dad used to

1789
02:03:06,520 --> 02:03:11,520
call one of his cars the back
seat the slums of Calcutta. He would

1790
02:03:11,560 --> 02:03:15,880
just throw banana peals V eight one. He would throw orange peels back there,

1791
02:03:15,159 --> 02:03:17,640
and it was the slums of Calcutta, and he would always joke about

1792
02:03:17,640 --> 02:03:20,560
it. So weg he'd clean out
the carnal weekends. That was no big

1793
02:03:20,640 --> 02:03:25,840
deal. But I thought maybe he
forgot there was a banana and he sat

1794
02:03:25,920 --> 02:03:28,439
on it and he don't I don't
know. It didn't make sense to me

1795
02:03:28,520 --> 02:03:32,079
that someone dump in his car.
They did, So there you go.

1796
02:03:32,600 --> 02:03:36,920
Tomorrow we'll have more shit stories because
I think this shitting thing is maybe we're

1797
02:03:38,000 --> 02:03:41,840
running into more of a boot problem
in the United States. Maybe irriteba ball

1798
02:03:41,920 --> 02:03:45,920
syndrome is UH spreading after the vaccine. I don't know. It could be.

1799
02:03:49,840 --> 02:03:53,640
He started. I saw it on
your face ahead and I had an

1800
02:03:53,680 --> 02:03:58,800
IBS and I couldn't finish it.
All right, no problem, I'll get

1801
02:03:58,840 --> 02:04:02,079
it tomorrow for Kevin. You are
bringing the funny and bringing the BTV,

1802
02:04:03,279 --> 02:04:11,399
pizza, Danny Wikipedia and Dunkin Donuts. I'm Bill Moran. We'll see you tomorrow