It's just like the old radio show with the addibility to swear a lot from
the mac of All Trade studio in Fairport and driven by Victor Chrysler Dots Jube
Bram. It's Bilified the Bill Moran Podcast. Well, hello and welcome.
Thanks for getting your pat on, Thanks for telling a friend. That's how
you spread the word one by one. I've been witnessing the people I've witness
I've been putting like a little of it. I've been putting those little cards
inside Bible tracks of handling it. If you don't like this, try Bilified.
So here's satan. When you say cards, do you mean the the
QR code? Yeah? So uh. I also put a couple in the
Wegman's ice cream aisles. There was a guy that I knew years ago through
radio, and he really wanted to do a very cool thing. And I
was young, and I was impressionable by management at the time in radio.
Some of us are still are. Yeah, not that Moore. I basically
this is really when I went, oh, oh my god, I fucked
up majorly. These young guys had started the company and they wanted to come
and take my three one five stories that I was doing from the times of
Wayne County and build a website three one five dot com and animate them and
put voices and stuff. So there were other people we were going to do
this, and the radio stations goes, we own everything you do. You
can't do anything without our permission, and no, no, no, because
hey, this would be an outside entity Jackson Jordan. So well, I
pay the tuition. I think in a better way would have been, Hey,
let's see how we can make this work. How do we make this
beneficial for everybody? Right? And I wasn't even looking for money. I'll
just tell you, like, I never did anything. This is kind of
sounds so dumb. I never did any of this for money. I did
it because I loved it, right, It was never about money to me.
And for a long time they're just I wasn't making a ton of money.
When I did the entuned in concrete, somebody went through my contract because
they were freaking out over me being in there and what was going to happen.
I they noticed that I had missed a raise, like I had a
contractual raise from the beginning of the year. This was August or July when
I did this, or was it. Yeah, it was like, but
it was a raised. They hadn't given it to me, so they gave
it, but I never noticed. My point is like, they could have
come to me and said, hey, man, we're we're you know what
any revenue will see. I didn't care. It just would have helped build
my you know, brands you it brands you as a thing, and I
was too afraid. So anyway, many years later, I get a message
from this guy great marketing and next to the yurnal in iron smoke as arque
he used me. He goes to me, He's like, hey, I
had to go and scan to see what this was. Great marketing and that's
so funny that you put it there. But it was this guy, Mike's
s Dukeanko, and many many years ago he had He was one of three
young guys who were starting out at their own company. And I don't know
whatever it became in their company. I think he's still in the tech world
in some in some aspect, but I wish I always kind of wish I
had pushed forward with that, and I think it would have been cutting edge
for the time, the early two thousands. It would have been cutting edge
for the time, but whatever, dude, let's do it now. Funny
voice of them. I could be the reporter. We could do ladies a
gentleman, funny story. Dan also put a camera and the women's so that's
sick, you're that's disgusting. Uh. We don't know if they're women in
twenty for the videos though, can you? Um, can somebody connect to
this because you're you're connected already. H Um. I'm gonna just circle this
phone number. Seeing can call this guy an old friend of ours. Uh.
I guess it's kind of a hero from the break room days. We
called him Simon de Grumpy because he was always even had a hat made up.
He had his own hat made up. I'm Simon de Grump from WCMF
breakroom place. Like. That's awesome. I didn't. It is awesome anybody
that was identifying themselves with us, right, you know, and whatever stupid
shit we were doing. I was so impressed. We had protesters show up
because they tried to add music to the morning show. They didn't take us
off the air, they didn't fire at the least, want to add a
couple of songs. No, we're protesting. He was one of them.
Simon, Hello, Hello, sir, while we are, I am well
and Danny's here. And so I had talked to Simon earlier today and I
said, you know who's on the podcast Bilified podcast with me? Dan Burrillo
used to be on the breakroom. And he goes, you haven't had at
the corner doing something stupid? Yeah, I'm turning tricks for money. We
needed I saw for sure by now, Billy to have you out there out
busking or doing something. We had him doing all kinds of crap. Back
what you're doing the courthouse, Simon, I want to bring that. I
was thinking about that today too. We's gonna go. We gotta go to
different courthouses, though we can't just go in the city. The city was
the best. I was right, Simon, we do. Yeah, Simon
lives in Charlotte, which Simon, technically is that considered the city. It's
on its own. Yeah, so it's the city. Uh And and Simon
in the city, they've been having a problem, but really all over the
country. I don't want to target anyone area, but Kia is being stolen
and even Berkeley Breen News ten NBC sat here and said someone had attempted to
steal his Kia from the news. Well, I know, but sometimes you
just don't have the means, you know what I mean, Simon, It's
just not that easy because let's say you want to get out of you'll trade
this one in. I don't know everybody's taking it right. And we talked
to Karen. He said, it's tough. It's tough with keys, yeah,
because they can't ensure them, right, Yeah, push pull or dragging
in unless it's a kiel and just write it down on one wheel. But
I laugh. Danny forwarded me a tweet today that Simon dug Grump can you
follow are you at Simon de Grump on Twitter? Yeah? Okay? And
the and the tweet said, ha ha ha, I found a stashed keya
this morning behind a local c store. Funny they parked at where the camera
couldn't pick it up, reported too, and immediately picked up by at Greece
Police New York. An hour later, the boys came back to get their
stolen car. To their surprise, it was gone. Uh and I'm sure
there's more to this. How did you just somebody stole? How did you
find out? I would have paid to see them go back there looking for
that car? Yeah, I'm sure it would have been hilarious. How did
uh so tell me what went down? How did you discover this stolen car
and realize it was a stolen car? It was coffee, mats false.
I ran out of coffee, mate this morning for my coffee, so okay,
my coffee mar all right, Simon, I get that you're in out
of coffee made? Okay, So far, so good. So I happened
my truck and I shoot up to my little local growth er who happens to
be in Grease. My part is a lot borders with grease. Okay,
So right up edge Mere, No, this is right up the nice road,
oh, Denice. Okay, yep, okay, all the parts of
the world, they say, Denise, I thought about the nice lived right
down to god damn Freeville. It's the nice okay, Denice. Yes,
all right, let's let's just past that. So I went into the store
and I got my coffee made, hop back in my truck, and I
proceeded to go around the building like I normally do, and come out the
other side, see you to join in the traffic that way. But as
I made that turn, I almost hit the black keys sitting in front of
me. What the house is doing here? Don belong here? So I
went not finding a little bit of a gratty knoll, and around it.
I looked at the car. I didn't see any broken windows or anything.
It just seemed weird where it was around the store, just out of place,
Simon, I mean it was. It was sort of parked, not
in any specific parking spot, and just yeah it was. So it stood
out to you as to where it was. It was behind the building.
Yeah, okay. So I went around and I went back in the store
and I told the clerk. I says, I think you have a stolen
tur behind the um store. She looked at her camera, she goes,
no, there isn't a car there, And I just thought there is,
but there is. So look, I looked at the camera built there was
no car in camera. So these guys were smart enough to know exactly where
the camera. That's a hard thing. So this almost sounds like it's somebody
who is familiar with the someone who's not twelve, well someone right, someone
who's not twelve probably, and somebody who's familiar with where the cameras pick up
and don't pick up like we have cameras in here, right, you can
adjust them to all different things. And you guys don't know when you're on
camera or not on camera unless you're looking right at you know, you see
the red light light up. My point of that, Simon, is it
has to see somebody from inside that store who's familiar with the store and the
cameras, don't you think? Well? I really I know because I actually
later on in the day. Yeah, I actually saw all those three kids
that went for that car, okay, And they were teams and none of
them worked in the store. Okay, So I know we can eliminate bad
thing as far as that camera working. I could pick that up with the
owner o the store. I know him really well. Yeah. I mean
I supported it place that he's been open for years, and I'm a normal
support system for him. So wait, So, Simon, did you go
back just to sit outside the store to see if somebody showed up to try
to find that car after it was taken by the police. No, I
went back to make sure the clerk was okay to tell her about the car.
She left the store, leaving the inside and went to go see for
herself if in fact there was a car there. Yeah. Okay, Well,
once she came back in, she was shook and she saw the car
and she says, what do I do? I saw us blocking the driveway,
your trucks come in today. You're gonna have to call the police.
And that's exactly what she did. Say. So I wasn't there. You
weren't there. You weren't there to see all the action. But I thought
I saw him one of your tweets, because you had a series of these.
It was a great it was a great story along the way. Uh
what was it was? It's kind of like it unfolded. You had a
true crime podcast on Twitter, right, you know what I mean? And
you went in there. But you said that the clerk, when she saw
the young kids show up, and she saw them walking around the building,
she locked the door. Yes, that was right after the Grease police left
with the car. Okay, so I'm going to say within the hour that
I was gone from that store, the police that showed up showed the car.
I went, that car was gone, and the clerk told me that
the three kids that apparently or three kids apparently, we're walking around the parking
lot the store, and she got nervous yeah, sure, because after you
don't know, right, you just don't know. Wow, exactly, So
she locked the doors. Yeah that's just great, that's fantastic yourself on safe.
You did what you needed to do. So, Simon, did you
ever find out if this car was indeed stolen? Oh? It was because
after she came back in and called ninety one one before I left, I
walked up to the car and looked in the windows. Now, none of
the windows were broken, bell okay, but the column was definitely total.
The column was ripped out. So somebody out left their doors unlocked. It
sounds like, well that or they had the tools to get in. Jimmy,
jimmy, but that seems a little There were their plates in the car
and then taking those off. Yeah, no, the plates were on the
car. The car was in good physical shape, good well body wise and
inside, so damage was minimal. Yeah. Wow, So somebody's going to
get their car back and it's not going to be as bad as everybody thought
it would. See. Yeah, well, look at you, Simon.
You did something good today, buddy. I try to do something good every
day, though it doesn't always work out that way. But no, I
I understand that because you're a grump. That's why nobody stole your drump Nobody
stow your drump ball wheel yet, did they? No? No, No,
you know, I'm an I'm in a well protected area of the city,
and I also have a lesson. No, not true, Dan,
I don't. I don't carry a weapon. I carry a ninety pound pitfull.
Oh wow, that's a weapon. Yeah, can be weaponized. Let's
put it that way. Uh, Simon. I think it's great to hear
you again, and I think it's so cool that you did this, Billy.
We got to look out for each other, right, Yes, it's
right. You know. I've always told my kids be aware of your surroundings.
If something doesn't look right and you get home or you get to where
you're going and you're still thinking about it, yeah, something wasn't right,
right, take action, make a call, bringing somebody, let somebody else
look at it. But do something and get it off to your shoulders so
you haven't got to think about it nobody. Yeah, Well, that good
advice, Simon. I appreciate it. And uh, we'll have to have
maybe we find some way to incorporate more Simon. You know, grump of
the grump of them something like that. Yes, sir, I'm not a
real big podcast you know, podcast listener. Yeah, I'm not, okay,
but I do enjoy talking to you guys. It feels like a reunion
of Stort. Yes, it does, you know. And I'd like to
be uh more of a part of that. All right, we'll make that
happen, Simon. Seriously, thanks guys. I appreciate it. I appreciate
you out there. You got it. Yeah, you too, Thank you
for keeping Rochester safe. We do what we can. Brother, That's right.
We'll see you later, Simon, have a good night too. So
I was very active on social media. Yeah he is, like I see
him on Twitter like all the time. Yeah, And I'm like, yeah,
he's got a point. Every time he's got a point. You know
what happens now? All my my top tweets when I open it up now
are like, it was the kids going crazy and McDonald's in LA where they
jumped over the counter and they stole the cash register. Yesterday, it's fights,
it's this, and I go, it's the Jerry Springer Show. I
wind up leaving Twitter because I find it repulsive, and I go, Twitter
is more of a news feed where's the goddamn new I must be following you
all this stuff. I go, I I absolutely hate it, So I
either put my stuff up, and I'm usually putting it up through a third
party site, you know what I mean. It's not like I schedule it
all day, so it just goes up. Uh. But you know,
Kevin's kid is looking for a car. I don't know if you can get
a good deal in a car. Maybe he had one behind a quickie man.
But Kevin said yesterday, he goes, I think my kid is getting
scammed. No, I wanted to make sure it wasn't a scammed sent me
the message and what do you think of that? Because he was I was
actually happy. He was like, what do you think of this? Before
just jumping into it. So he sent you an ad for a car?
Yeah, right, And the car in the picture looked to be too good
for the price that was being offered. It was a two thousand and seven
with like seventy three thousand miles silverado Z something something something, and it was
they were looking for twelve hundred bucks. And I'm like this, this can't
be right. So I'm like, it needs an engine, great body,
but it needs an. It looked great, it looked like it was in
fantastic shape. I'm like, there's got to be something wrong with if you
want to do this, and we'll figure it out. But we gotta go
talk to either carm people or our other buddy, Scott, who does works
on cars, and see who knows what's inside of this thing because it gets
It's a little scary nowadays because you never know. I mean, people are
getting scammed all the time out of houses, right. People are buying houses
for people, but it's the people are on vacation and they own the home,
and now there's all kinds of legal hassles with that. There's been a
lot of problems with people scamming online. Definitely sold by house three times last
month. Uh Fatso we had on came in here one night he said on
Facebook, my friend Mark scammed the scammer. He got one of those we
deposit money into your bank account scams. Then a few minutes later, using
the numbers you just gave them, they take their money back along with everything
in your account. So my buddy is on the phone with the scammers and
in line at the bank they make the deposit for twenty four hundred and he
immediately closes the account. Lol. That sounds impossible to me. YEA to
immediately close that has a little made up. But what was interesting I did
see that there was a guy and I'm gonna try to get him on the
podcast. He was on the CBS Sunday Morning Show and it was people pulling
the scam they believed a scam from like overseas, and there was something about
the story that this guy. He's like, I don't know, there's something
about this not adding up. I don't think this is a scammer. And
it was somebody asking for help. And so he winds up connecting with the
guy writing a book, selling the book and giving the guy the proceeds,
and then he flies over to where this guy is in Africa and sees the
house that he built with the money that he got from the book. But
everybody had written him off as a scammer. Then there was another woman who
had a botched surgery when she was young, and it was like obstructing her
bowels and things, and she was in a tremendous amount of pain. She
wound up on one of these sites that says she's a scammer. Stay away
from her, and so she wants He connects with her, finds out it
is real, writes a book on her behalf, and then helps her get
the surgery she needs. Oh isn't that weird? Like because we see these
scams, but then so some woman out of nowhere. I wrote on Facebook
too, I won't advise anybody to believe anyone after what I face, but
I still believe the real ones are out there, people who want to help
you. I got help from Lewis Underscore hack one oh one. I will
not go to this page because I'm wondering if her English is bad, so
it makes me feel like maybe she is a scammer. On Instagram, he
helped me expose a fake profile. He also helped me in getting a few
percent of my funds back as well. You can reach him here on Instagram.
Have you ever been scammed online? Oh? Yeah, come on,
you have. That's a stupid question, that's danny. Yeah, but not
not to the point where I, like, you know, like fell fall
through. I've been cat When I was single, I was catfished a couple
of times. I mean it just seemed like, I mean, I didn't
go through with it, but I figured out at least four um, you
know, and I helped build a couple of houses. Uh no, but
yeah, I mean like people have attempted the scammy, but I figured it
out. So I did get scammed. H I got an email that came
from the CEO of iHeart at the time, Bob Pittman, and so I
opened it and it says you need to click here and do so. They
were always sending these online trainings, all these videos all the time, and
I would always my Heart University. Why I would alway be one of the
last ones and go, hey, if you're on this list, you're delinquent.
We gotta get this in. And I wandered painting the ass for the
manager has to chase everybody around to do this. So I thought, you
know what, I'm gonna get on this early and I click on it.
And in the middle of this, I was moving, right and so I
had stuff in storage, and I had all this stuff and the kids are
all over the place, and I get a call as I'm driving to from
from iHeart, going, hey, did you click on a that was a
fishing scam? They got your bank account thing and your next direct deposit.
They were gonna be able to take it right out. Wow. But they
caught it. Oh, they caught it. Market Polito told me this story
about you once. Yeah, he said, because I worked for a great
company man, they found it. They brought my money back. Yeah,
yeah, they brought my money back. Yeah he was. He was talking
about how you were like, so scan I was. I was blown away.
Well that was a previous going, but I was blown away by the
fact how the safeguards they had in place, because I was dumb enough to
believe. And when I clicked on the thing, it's not playing, and
I'm typing stuff in and I go, ah, forget it, it's not
working. I don't know. I thought it was a computer issue, so
I just walk away, only to find out it was a fishing scam.
You gotta be careful with that, guys. Also weight loss scams. Be
careful. Oh yeah, yeah, I was trying to buy some some gummies
that help you lose weight. Yeah, you put your credit card number in
all of a sudden, Oh, it's cards to climb five thous I'm gonna
get five hundred dollars charge for boner pills. I'm my freaking and I get
a text message from the credit card company. Did you, like, did
you buy Boner pills those gummies that I see on like Instagram? Yeah?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah. It wasn't on Instagram, but
I was like, I followed a trail. It was in an email.
Yeah, but it looked like shit because they had a whole story and everything
else. Yeah, so that happened to me. No scams for you.
No, I'm not fit for that. But look, man, you know
I'm trying to lose weight here. I'm like, oh, it seems convincing.
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this? This is Jesse Ware and she's from the UK. Okay, Yeah,
so she's pretty big right now with the LGBTQ community and a lot of
fun. So if you go out to the clubs here you'll hear. I
guess she doesn't go out to the clubs here because you know what would happen.
I'd be the old guy in the club. I can't do that.
I can't want to do it. I'd be too old to be out.
Hey you may Hey. I kind of like it though. Yeah. She's
very disco driven. Yeah, very enjoyable. So I had a neighbor from
Finland for a couple of years. He would get all the remix import remixes.
He invited me over ones. This is a merry guy with three kids.
Hey, you got to hear this new Britney Spears remix. And I
go, the fuck is happening? The fuck are we doing? And I
went, I went and I listened to it. Yeah, I had to.
I had to. They're probably amazing remis. They were great remixes.
But then I would have parties right in my backyard and stuff. He would
come over and he would get sick of my music, which was basically yacht
rock, right dad rock, and then he'd take over and the fucking party
would empty out. Like yeah, I was just like, everybody laughed.
Everybody laughed. David is here to talk about the Trevor Project. Now,
the Trevor Project. I don't know that many people are know the ins and
outs of the Trevor projects. So let me see if I can explain it,
and you tell me if I'm correct. All right, how would we
do that one? Yeah? I think it started in the late nineties and
I was based on a show that HBO was putting together about Trevor. Trevor
was a thirteen year old boy, I believe, who was conflicted with coming
out as a gay as a gay boy, and um, I think in
the move it was I don't know if this was based on a real story
or if this was fictional, the Trevor Trevor's story, but when they were
telling it, they said, well, wait, a second. You know,
there's going to be people who watched this that are going to need help.
And they did some research and they found that there was nowhere for anybody
who was having conflicted feelings and thinking they were going to kill themselves to call
anywhere. So they started to really help the acceptance of I guess you would
call LGBTQ youth and they started this line and it was the Trevor Lifeline.
But as Trevor, was that a fictional story? I mean, I'm sure
there's based on some truth. I don't want to I don't want to minimize
that it was a fictional story that's created, but yeah, obviously based on
yeah, you know, well reality of I mean, how many times have
we not seen or heard something about like like like that? So I mean,
what is your involvement? How did you get involved with the Trevor project?
Because this is the one you're talking about, and I would assume,
like many chapters around the country, this this one's local. Well, it's
um an event that I'm doing through work through West Elm and UM I got
involved three years ago with work we dont West Elm at the CALLH Road Armory.
UM we do fundraising through our parent company, Williamsonoma in four Trivor project
every year, and I was like, well, it's great to just ask
people at the cash register, but why don't we do something fun, have
an event and bring people to the store, create something that's exciting. So
that's what we did three years ago. So this is my third one.
When is It is June twenty fourth, the Saturday Saturday up twelve to four
at the Call for Road Armory. It's in um collaboration with the Mata if
you've heard of that. The market at the Armory. Okay, yeah,
so that's a lot of local vendors and makers, but at the West Elm
event there'll actually be LGDQ plus makers and artists. So focuses on that and
we collect money for the Trivor Project. And then locally the Mocha Centers Center
Centermocus Center is part of the Trillium and that is Trillium health yep. Yeah,
and that is focusing on LGBTQ A Bypac Bye byepac so about black Indigenous
people of color. I did not know that. Can you say that again?
And I'm not only just so I can catch it by b I p
oc so it's black indigenous people of color. Interesting. So because yeah,
well we have heard often, right, where did download mostly come from?
It was usually I thought, I hope I'm not speaking out of it Kelly
that song. No, but I well, against black culture. I think
it was most because the worst thing you could I mean be in black was
it was a game black Man, correct. Yes, Yeah, so I
think that's interesting. How important is this for young people? Um, it's
extremely important. They provide chat services twenty four seven, three hundred and sixty
five days a year. They also have hotlines you can call. They have
a safe space network that they call the Trevor Space I Believe online and that
is a social media place they can go to and talk to Pierce. It's
focused on kids between the age of thirteen to twenty four. Yeah, obviously,
you know when you start figuring things out, figuring things out, who
you are? Can I put kind of a human face on this and sort
of put you on the spot. Sure, Okay, how do you identify?
I am a gay assist male? So I am the G part of
the alphabet of the LGBTQ. Yeah, and when did you know that you
were gay? I knew pretty young um, I would say, obviously,
you know, once you have puberty, you kind of understand that you feel
differently. But you know, I just knew that I was different. Probably,
I would say I noticed around like nine ten, okay, around there,
yeah, yeah, that's and I started, you know, having feelings
towards you know, friends or boys instead of like where all my other friends
were like thought girls were attractive or had feelings sorts them. And I was
like, oh my goodness, this isn't this isn't okay. Because I was
born in eighty two, so I forty one this year, so it's um.
Back then, it was like no, no, no, you can't.
Lots of shame and shunning and it's not discussed. And I grew up
in a rural area. I grew up in that era. And what area
did you grow up in. I grew up in Cohocton, Southern Tier.
Southern Tier. Yeah, you're in Creek. And I was down in a
place called Pine Plains, which is the was I think it still is the
largest school district in New York State for square mile Okay, with the smallest
population I think we had. It's like the Wyoming of New York. I
just I'll just give you the I think we had sixty five kids graduate in
our class, my class, so I don't know co Hocten was similar to
that or not. I have maybe a little bigger dirt in sixty eight,
but I was well, still small emerged. Yeah, so it still small.
You know it's from Cohocten. Is mankind mcfoley the wrestler, he's from
Cohocton. Oh is he really? Yeah? I did not locked it?
Yeah. Uh so who did you come out to first? I mean,
here, you are in a rural community right where football rules, I would
assume, yeah, yeah, right, and all the sports, all the
sports, and you're not are you interested in sports? Just because you're gay
doesn't mean you don't like sports. Um. I enjoyed soccer and swimming,
those are the ones, okay. And my family was big into baseball.
And I was like, I tried it and got hit in the head and
that I knew that wasn't for me. So see, I tried it,
I get hit in the head. I kept going, but I was afraid
for the rest of my life, but I kept forcing myself to do it.
It's a great answer, But who do you come out to first?
My best friend in college at the time, Emily, I was twenty.
Okay, did Emily already know? Could she? She? At first she
thought I was telling her that a cross on her. She like was worried
about that. But then once she's like, okay, I wasn't sure I
was. He was gonna go either way, she was, you know,
but that and that was it. So then once I did that, it's
a huge relief when you finally tell someone and let it out and get some
of that pressure off of your chest. Did you then tell family as well?
Yes, and now are um I told my mother first and my siblings.
That was fine. Um. I The last person I told you was
my dad and he's like, yeah, I was just waiting for you to
tell me, so he knew, yeah right, yeah. Um. And
my mother's experience was a little different because when I did come out, she
was very concerned about me getting HIV and AIDS because like that was you know,
back then, and especially in that you know, or late nineties,
early two thousands, prep didn't exist yet, so you know, it's still
people could die from. Yes, she was very concerned about when your dad
said to you, I was waiting for you to tell me. Do you
wish he came to you at any point and said, hey, man,
I don't want you to feel uncomfortable. Here's some things that I don't know
because I look, I'm a dad of three guys. Yeah, I don't
know that I would do that. I have no idea. I'm just asking
from your perspective living with this feeling conflicted. I'll tell you what. So,
you're about eleven years younger than I am. When I was, it
was more of the eighties, so I would have been in like junior high
and stuff. When you were born. The worst thing you could have been
in the locker room was gay, and we made like you're gay. I
mean that was yelled at people. Right m You're in the showers and you
know everybody's there's all kinds of pressure there, so you kind of I mean,
that's a tough thing to swallow when you realize you're like, I got
this secret, I can't let anybody know. Yeah, yeah, that's a
difficult. I mean I was, you know, teased, I don't have
you know, my gesticulations and my voice aren't the most masculine at times,
so they would, you know, target that and tease me for it,
you know, physically in the bathrooms, the locker rooms, hallway, et
cetera. But as far as you're an answer to that question about my dad,
I don't know. Like I never really thought about it. Yeah,
I don't know either, And I only thought it because the way you said
he said, and I thought, boy is a dad myself. Would I
have been a I don't know. I don't It would have been good to
go to the kid and say, hey, yeah, I know, I'm
sure this is a struggle, and I want you to know you're loved and
I got you in whatever. But I don't know what the right thing is.
I think most parents, like nowadays, what I would say to them
is if they're not sure, just and you know, I wouldn't say,
like, be totally direct about it, but like, if the conversation came
up, or if you're talking about or you see it on TV or just
in passing conversation, just express your support for those types of people in that
area. That's a good point. They just know, yeah that if they
are, they kind of come to you because you're an ally essentially, So
don't turn your kid and go you want to kiss a boy? It could
be the opposite. Your father could come to you Dan, Do you like
girls? Yeah? What's why? What's the problem? I never see you
with one? I go because I don't know. You have me working seven
days a week, when would I have time? Dad? Oh, so
you like girls? Yeah? I had a girl from high school? Did
we forget this? Are you okay? Do you need to go to a
doctor? He was like relieved. I'm like, what do you relieve?
The bottle? There's like, dude, I'm fine, everything's cool. Well,
you know you know what I mean, like, you know, you
know, have you ever helped others come out? Um? Me personally?
No? No, I have not. The big thing I guess with that
at least in you know, gay culture is like, it's not our story
to tell. We'll support people if they tell us, but it's nothing that
we would ever tell anyone because we don't out with people. Do you feel
like people need to come out? Because I mean, like, when you
think about it in a way, it's really not anybody's business. Yeah,
I mean you know what I'm saying, Like, if someone doesn't want to
come out, is my point, why don't we? I you know,
then then they don't. That's all right, Yeah, I don't. I
think it's um, it's interesting. I think that option should be there,
and it should be. But if someone chooses not to disclose their sexual orientation,
I think that's fine. I just would hope that they could be happy
in their authentic self, don't matter the situation. Well, you know,
it was interesting. There was a thing I've been on the radio for a
long time prior to do in the podcast, and Danny and I were on
a show together back in the mid two thousands, and we had heard a
story about guys would go to the local parks and they would back their car
in and that was more on the downlow. Yeah, and so we thought,
why don't we go and have a contest to see which one of us
could get hit on first, Which it's funny in theory, except when you
put a face to it a little bit and sort of shaming people like,
Yeah, I didn't think of it that way. I just thought it would
be kind of funny. Hey, you know, because I always said to
people, look, if you get hit on by anybody, any human being,
exactly, it's a compliment, right right, Hey, that's a nice
thing. Yeah. They were brought in the guy who actually told me had
a crush at me. I was like, oh, wow, ladies.
But so, um, I guess with with that particular part or I don't
know how to say it, scene in our community is that that is definitely
a down low area and that's what you know, especially gay men used to
have to do all the time, all the time. So that's still part
of kind of like our culture, and some people enjoy it, but there's
also people that are very much on the down low. Um so so so
here was one of the thing that I walked away from this experience with and
it made me feel really bad. Yeah. There was another guy who had
backed his car and he was with us and an older gentleman back to his
car in and he says hey, and our friend says, I'm waiting for
my wife. We're gonna walk our dogs. And he goes, oh,
and he said you go well first he said, I'm sorry, I'm married,
That's what he said. And the guy said me too. He was
an older gentleman. Yeah, And that was the thing that I went and
you could never be and you just said it your authentic self correct, and
so many lives would be ripple, like have a ripple effect. Yeah,
I don't. You know, I think most people you could kind of tolerate
it, but it'd be hard. Right. He had looked like he may
have had grandkids at this point in his life, and you go, man,
you could never be who you were, so you came here and in
a way you're putting yourself at risk because you don't know who you're hooking up
with it And I'm not even saying aid it's just an STD at all that
you bring home or whatever. And I went, how sad is that?
Now? This was an older guy and I only say that because he grew
up in the time or it was way worse. It was never even talked
about. You. I don't think it was ever talked about. And so
I think all this stuff is good. Like the point of life is to
be happy, right, That's what I believe, And so if you can't
be yourself, how can you be happy? But once you come out,
is that when the real work starts? Or is it actually easier in life
in general? I think it's kind of both. Unfortunately, coming out once
as never something that doesn't stop. You come out all the time continuously at
work, People like, oh, you know, are you married? Do
you have a wife, do you know you have kids? You know,
you know, things like that. So it's an you're always coming out every
single day, depending on if you're meeting new people, you're starting a new
job, etc. So it's not something that kind of ends. And as
much as we would like to, I guess that the word is tolerance right
there seems to be more tolerance and acceptance any easier, um, I think
depending on where you live. Yet, I mean, obviously being in New
York stay as much better for a lot of us at this time, especially
with how our world's turning right now. But it, you know, I
think it still is. We had a lot of work to do, and
I myself, as a white sist male, understand that I have a lot
of privilege, you know, even as a gay mail it is, you
know, that's what you see on TV now. You see white rich gay
men. You know they look amazing and you know, but you don't see,
you know, the feminine ones. You don't see as much of you
know, any other. Well, I'm trying to think of like in media
once and I'm not even thinking so much from entertainment. But you've got Anderson
Cooper, who Champion, Sam Champion, the weather guy, he was the
weather guy for ABMs. Yeah America. Yeah he's gay. Oh yeah,
I didn't know that. Well, there were there were limos by him and
a very famous baseball player. I'm not gonna say who it is because like
there's no proof of that. And then uh, the guys and Food Network
that was on quer Eye. I can't think of his name. No,
Carson Cresley, he just chopped, okay, and then who does all the
housewives stuff? And Andy Cohen? Yeah right? And then Andy's just written
another I think he put out it has another book coming out, My Diaries
or something or for a year of being a single dad, right right?
And yeah, Dave Rubin from the Daily Wire he's gay. So it's what
you see the most in media and even now with like sports we were coming
out are though, white nailed, sis looking males, you know, the
quarterbacks or whatever people are playing. You know, I don't know what position
they are, but like I apologize defensive I think I think no, it
was the kids from the Raiders, it was it was, um, yeah,
I played defensive ends still in the league. Right, But they're I
mean, they're they're the atypical male looking like they looked. Yeah, they're
either very masculine, you know, presenting things like that. What does SIS
mean? Sis means that I identify with the sexual organs that I was born
with, So I sist male. So you don't know to me, like
you knew Kevin, you didn't know, or did you? I did?
Okay, I don't know that I knew. I don't know that I knew.
I think I always took it as I don't know why it meant typical
to me, like tip I was gay, being I'm gay, I have
these parts. That's how I took it. But I sis male can be
anyone who has you know, a penis. Rightly that's what they done by
with. But you know that changes, it depends on And that's where I
like, I don't talk about it a lot because I'm not transgender or I
don't I'm not non binary and all that stuff. So I'm like, I
don't want to say the wrong thing, but um, but that's what this
means. Yeah, identify anatomy as malet Does it make you nervous that,
like all of a sudden, now you have to tiptoe around people saying the
right or wrong thing. Um, I think, I mean, I think
I can, and I think it's definitely important to use the right terms and
try to understand where they're coming from. I think the biggest thing is when
someone corrects you or like if you're saying something and you say it incorrectly,
is to apologize and say I didn't understand that. I'm sorry. Um.
Also, you know some people get offensive of defended or right like. That's
not you know, it's first of all, it's not their job to educate
you, you know, but if they correct you, it just depends on
the situation or what was said. I suppose. But um, if they
correct you, just take you know, apologize and say I didn't realize that.
I apologize. I didn't mean to offend you. I don't, you
know, Let me look, let me look into this. Just educate yourself
on it. So I always figured this way, Like you said before,
you gotta be comfortable in your skin. You want me to refer to you
as they, then she I don't care. What I'd rather do is have
a conversation about something that is more of you know, what I'm saying,
Like whatever we're talking about or whatever if we're talking sports or if we're talking
politics or whatever, that's it. I don't care front you know, and
bring your point of view. Yeah right, bring your a point of view.
But I always think that we don't get down to the brass tacks.
We get caught up in the other stuff sometimes. Yeah, in schools and
the politics. It's like come on, well it said, you know a
lot of it is distraction plays. But you can go down yes, yes,
one, And I'm glad you said that. So the Trevor Project is
West Elm Saturday, correct noon to four. Ye what happens? So we
you have two drag shows going on that day. You have a DJ,
will have local makers like I discussed we have twigals donate a bunch of hot
dogs. They'll have that going on. Um local you know, local makers,
people selling stuff and just people having a good time. And then you
can do donations. Also have a raffle going on where a lot of local
businesses and people donated products and gift cards and things that you can wrap purchase
tickets to actually win. Yeah, and then the money goes to the Trevor
Project, correct, right, yea, And is there is a chapter here.
I know part of what you said, what's Trillium Health. Trillium Health.
Yea, as far as a chapter here in Trevor Project, I'm not
entirely sure. I'm assuming they have a local representative in there. Either way,
these things don't run on air so as much as they need them.
Well, it's nice you to come in. And I don't want to say
too much, but you're going to be potentially part of another podcast that we'll
produce out of here, and we'll be doing some stuff in the near future.
I think it'll be great. Yeah, I look forward to it.
Well, I watched was on a zoom call with David and Jake and who's
the Shannon. Yeah, well I know Shannon a Rema I've never met,
and there was some really really funny, funny stuff and you guys are all
real tight and it looks like it could be a really great podcast. So
we'll see how all that goes. Well, thank you, and I appreciate
you coming in. We will take a moment. There's a submarine that's missing.
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that's missing. I'm gonna play you some audio from somebody who went on that
submarine, and then we're gonna talk to a guy down in Florida who I
actually caught on CNN this morning talking about this, and uh, we'll see.
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once in a while. Ocean Gates is the submarine that's missing. Ryers reports
that the five per and crew of the missing vessel, known as Titan,
includes Hamish Harding. Hamish is a British billionaire and an adventure enthusiast. Ocean
Gates founder and CEO stocked and Rush and it disappeared Sunday while on an exhibit
exhibit expedition to explore the Titanic ship or ex site after losing contact with the
Polar Prints research ship roughly an hour and forty five minutes after their dive began
a three hour two hours. So the submarine. I'm gonna play you some
audio and then we're gonna talk to Rick. Mrkar I saw Rick on CNN.
Rick is a kind of a diving specialist, and we'll talk to him
in just a couple of minutes. But I thought we'll go through this first.
CBS Sunday Morning is a show I really enjoy and I actually caught this,
and they went out on ocean Gate. Uh so they take an oil
rig from Newfoundland and they go out to the shipwreck site, which I think
takes about two days to get there. Oh yeah, So where this submarine
the titan is right now missing? They're saying, is the size of the
state of Connecticut is the area that could be right now, I'll play this,
we'll go I've pulled a bunch of different segments. We'll go through a
kind of segment by segment, just so you can get a better idea as
to what ocean Gate is trying to do and what the titan the submarine is
really like. For the most part, the only people who've ever seen the
Titanic since that night have been scientists. Until now. It's a very unusual
business. It's its own category. It's a new type of traveled Stopped in
Rush is the CEO of Ocean Gate, a company that dives to the Titanics
in a one of a kind carbon fiber submersible for two hundred and fifty thousand
dollars per person, quarter million dollars of person to die. It's cheaper than
going on show. Okay, so this was exactly what I was thinking.
We have gotten to the point now where this is private enterprise and what they're
not doing at the Titanic site, which I think people thought they were doing.
They're not disturbing it. They're just letting you see it. Yeah,
you can't go down and dive into it. No, but there's no one
well I think there's researchers and stuff where they're not removing anything. It's like
the old ten thousand Leagues under the Sea at Disney World. It just kind
of goes around, kind of the lost continent of Atlantis, but you get
to see now they did eventually get down on the CBS Sunday Morning Show,
and it is interesting. It's kind of interesting to see that two hundred and
fifty thousand dollars per person. Who is paying to do that? Who are
the typical clientele for these missions. We have clients that are Titanic enthusiasts,
which we refer to as Titaniacs. We've had people mortgaged their home to come
and do the j and we have people who don't think twice about a trip
of this this cost um. We had one gentleman who had won the lottery.
Okayaciac counder the floor. Then I'm dying. Look, I'm sorry some
one. So that was pretty good though that I learned about watching you.
Yeah, Unfortunately, I don't believe when I saw this today, I'm like,
I hope Billy talks about this. Well. Yeah, well I saw
it yesterday and we got caught up with some other things yesterday night. I
didn't. I'm glad you brought it because I heard yesterday's show and I gotta
tell you, man, I'm like, damn it. I always missed the
great shows. I had so many one liners with EJ and everything else.
Go ahead, I say it wasn't the one liner kind of day Danny to
Bank executive Renata wrote us, I'm trying to fulfill the dream. I've been
wanting to go to Tectanic and see it with my own eyes since before they
found it, and she's done saving to see the Titanic for thirty years.
Thirty years. Dreams don't have a price. Some people want a Ferrari,
some people buy a house. I wanted to go to Titanic, but the
star of the show is the titan stopped in Russia's custom built submersible, five
inch thick carbon fiber capped on each end by a dome of titanium. Okay,
now this thing just so not to diminish it big, because you're gonna
hear and read a lot of things, and I'm gonna be about to play
some audio that it's gonna get played over and over, and I don't want
to say it's taken out of context, because I don't know that it necessarily
is. But the actual vessel was designed with NASA and I'm gonna I'm forgetting
what other entity, but it's a bowing bowen bowing did this? Yes?
Now, when you hear some of the things that are operating it. You
you're gonna question that, And that's why I want to talk to mister.
It's not a smart phone. Hard Well, we're not far off, daddy,
We're not far off an experimental submersible vessel that has not been approved or
certified by any regulatory body and could result in physical injury, disability, emotional
trauma, or death. Where do I sign? Yeah? So this should
you hear me out? This is good? It looks like the capsule they
from Doctor Evil in it. Yes, powers really so these are and the
guy's not making any money because I think in this piece he says they burned
a million dollars worth of fuel, killing everybody. They tried to go out
three times. Now, this was no Remember twenty two. Inside the sub
has about as much room as a minivan. So this is not your submersion.
We only have one button. That's it. It should be like in
Eleva, you know, it shouldn't take a lot of skill. The Titan
is the only five person sub in the world that can reach Titanic depths two
point four miles below the scene. It's also the only one with a toilet
sort of and yet I couldn't help noticing how many pieces of this sub seemed
improvised. We can use these off the shelf components. I got these from
Camper World. We run the whole thing with this game controller. Come on,
it seems like this submersible has some elements of mcgivory. Jerry Rignus.
I mean, you're putting construction pipes as ballasts. I don't know if i'd
use that description of it, but there's certain things that you want to be
buttoned down. So the pressure vessel is not mcgivert at all, because that's
where we work with Boeing in NASA and the University of Washington. Everything else
can fail. Your thrusters can go, your lights can go, You're still
going to be safe. You're okay. So to that point, and we'll
talk to uh Rick in just a minute here. I think this morning on
CNN they said that they leave these guys could survive forty hours. I talked
to Rick this evening and he said it was about thirty five hours worth of
air left. I heard in ninety six hours. Yeah, I read three
days. Yeah, so but that may have been as of sun but we
don't know, right so we'll see what what Rick has to take all our
money with Nason bowing, so he butt this but the button. You know,
that sounds really funny and I hate to be the guy to go because
there's so many jokes there right right, I mean the port journalist who's doing
the report, right, the guy with the college for CBS. So he's
a pretty smart guy, and the best words he could use to describe it
are mcguigerish, Jerry rigging, Jerry riggish. I mean could even call up
a real word or led lights. I think that you could buy, like
the guy said, a camper world or whatever, and probably something you would
put in a camper. It's about the size. See, if something doesn't
make sense to you, say it out loud. If it still doesn't make
sense, it probably does it. And this dude set it out loud and
it didn't make sense. If you're interested, after the show, we can
find two more. We can take the mini vennw uh. Now here's the
woman that was trying for thirty years to go, so I don't know if
she goes out and they they scrubbed a couple of times. I think I
think I pulled the audio one time. When they pull everybody back up.
How dived in the ocean Gate submersible had made it down only thirty seven feet
when this happened. So apparently those floats there came off the platform and that
wasn't supposed to happen. So got be that I was crushed. My diving
adventures were over. Every expedition has his challenges. Now this is the one
for thirty years have not meaning one expedition where things have to be adjust it,
adapted, changed for canceled. At the end of the day, you're
at the mercy of the weather. Were not a Rojas speaks from painful experience.
Over the years, She's been booked on three Titanic expeditions. All three
were canceled. Just cry a lot. I don't know, as I don't
believe so, and just keep the flame alive because he's something that I have
to do. Don't if you lost two hundred and fifty thousand dollars, it's
time. But he I think, I don't know. I don't know what
they don't say, because he's offered a free trip to people who have had
couldn't weren't able to get down there. But I don't I don't know.
You know you are in business. I wonder was just one of those put
together submarines like doctor Wortman had with his plane plane. No, do they
do an honor flight for Titanic survivors, right, an honor voyagee. Now
listen to this tights on bottom. But that was the last of the good
news, And I said, do you know where we are? About?
Then four seventy of the bow? If you were lost or are we There's
no GPS under water, so the surface ship is supposed to guide the sub
to the shipwreck by sending text messages and thirty degrees right, probably agree,
But on this dive communications somehow broke down. The sub never found the wreck.
We've been lost. We've lost for two and a half hours. Rush
says he'll offer those passengers a free do over next year. I can't find
the ducking Sorry, I can't find the ducking I can't find the ducking wreck.
Damn it. It's not a thing anymore. They's getting rid of that,
all right. So it does sound like they didn't do a software update.
I don't know that. I want to pay a quarter million dollars to
have something that texted coordinates and run by a joystick. I'd like something that
looks a little more safe. But if you're an adventure Look, people are
going to space right where this is private enterprise, and these things are going
to happen. What is the likelihood of saving these people? I don't know
that it's very good. It's all about right now. But I mean,
all these guys were very rich, and I think, like the one Hamish
is a billionaire and some other I think they kind of know going in.
I look, I would I don't know if I could do this. That's
the thing that I'm wondering about, because I would do all this crazy shit.
I see those ultra lights and I want to jump up in one of
those. It's a go cart with a parachute. I think that looks fucking
cooler than anything. If somebody said to me, yeah, you can do
that, I'm I'm in. I'm in, and I think I'm safe because
I got a parachute right right, So go wrong. I feel like somebody
done make that happen. And then but with this, I mean it looks
cool. I eventually did. Now. This aired in November of twenty twenty
two this past fall on CBS Sunday morning. They eventually got there and it
was cool to see the ship and you get it was interesting, right,
it's interesting. I just don't know that I have the interesting to going to
do that, but that it's a big risk, you know, some of
other things I could spend two That's what I'm saying. If you don't mind,
if you can call, we'll see. We can get beer. Yeah,
okay, we could. Yeah, you could about anything other than that.
Yeah, I mean, I mean I feel bad for the poor woman
who wasted her life savings to see this was her dream, especially when she
got down there on the on that one. Now, I don't know if
she had to pay every time. I have no idea. The last one
they who were giving a free yeah, they were, uh, this is
che Hello, Hello, Ricky, It's Rick Murkhar and I Rick, this
is Bill Moran. You were on the podcast Billified. I saw you earlier
today on CNN talking about all the things that are happening with the submersible called
the Titan, and I thought some of the things you had to say,
we're interesting in that even comparing it to SpaceX and the tourist missions. I
mean, this is sort of private enterprise and it's a cool thing and if
you've got the money, well, it seemed like it was pretty safe up
to this point. After this point, yeah, so what can we talk
about? How can I help you there? So Well, the questions that
I have is when when you look at at these kinds of things, what
is the likelihood of finding this and being able to bring it back to the
surface. Well, that it is the time factor question. At this point.
You know, we're dealing with a big area. I mean, the
ocean siege cover seventy percent of the planet, so we're talking in area search
that's right now. I'd have to say probably bigger than the state of Connecticut,
okay at this point, and that's probably just a surface area, let
alone. What's going on at twelve five hundred feet between zero feet to that
depth. So, as I said, I'm one of the earlier interviews,
and you know, not to sound rude or anything, but I mean,
it is a titanic effort or in the fund. Yeah, it certainly is.
It is a complex search effort, and you think from military and coast
guard terms, the first have to is actually located. Then if they do
find it, and that is the big gift. At this point in time,
I think we're getting down close about maybe thirty two hours. It's the
vible time left. They have to confirm the status towards the possible way of
recovery both of the vessel and the occupants, and then the next phase with
what can they do to recover and if hopefully if at the best few versus
a peer recovery. So time time is running pretty thin. The likelihood it's
all going to hinge on whether even get close to finding it or not.
I do know that some private vessels have moved into the area. Some of
them have capability to do some things at some great depth. Um, but
there's a lot of factors that are involved. I mean, it really starts
with the vessel itself. To Titan itself go ahead. I was just say,
is there something that the coastguard would get in there? And they have
the equipment they're trying to do that, like I think right like the coastguards
coming out of Rhode Island, and I think that they're also using a lot
of Canadian Coastguard as well, because the ship itself left Newfoundland right correct,
Yes, it came out of Saint John's Newfounland. Based on whether patterns and
stuff like that, they decided they would dive and I think it was like
an hour forty five minutes into the dive Rougher boat six am on Sunday that
they lost communication. Apparently last year the Titan lost communication for a couple of
hours, but re estopish it, which is kind of a good feeling.
I guess, yeah, um, you know, you would think, I
mean, this is pure exploration. This really is just on the cutting edge
of exploration. When you think about we have technology which still has limits to
Titan has capability to go down just a little bit more than thirteen thousand feet,
while the Titanics it's at twelve thousand and five to descent and it itself
is in a trench. Add the debris field, and of course we have
no idea what happened to the submersible. Did it get caught and return to
the surface. It was the first out of the area by currents. Did
it only get down? You figure in an hour and forty five minutes its
depth based on Rookley, I'd have to say about eighty to eighty five feet
per minute descent rate because it takes about two and a half to three hours
to descent of the Titanic. SOB eight hundred eighty seven hundred feet were they
caught, did they have multiple fars and did they get caught at that point?
And now they'd being pushed with currents? Sort they did they get to
the bottom? Are they trapped under the Titanic or they caught up in the
debris field that even mired into the mud. One of the recovery capabilities of
self recovery, which means they would have dropped a weighted component of the roll
and that should have floated them back to the surface. But at this point
we can't even validate that. Now. I do know that this this vessel,
once you get in there, it's sealed. It's almost like I don't
think it's rivets, but it's some kind of machine and they lock you in
there. So there's no way for these guys, if they did surface,
to even get out without someone else letting them out. Correct. Correct,
it has to be a after back to the launch platform. So this specil
actually enters the water on the launch park form that goes about thirty forty feet
down afore about one atmosphere of depth, and then so maneuvers off that and
goes to the object. What's in this case was the Titanic, right,
So once they're sealed into that, you are you are basically in this case,
we're looking at carbon fiber and titanium and it is a cocoon for lack
of anything else. Yea, And the five people inside have to really get
back to the surface and have somebody on the outside open the hatch and let
them out. So even if they're on the surface, you still got to
get them back on their platform or we cover them back onto a ship before
you're gonna you wouldn't want to pull them out and just have the same flood
and sink on them and you know all that work and pull them down with
the sub. So, I mean, it's a lot of things that are
going on. It's a mixture of off the shelf technology. I mean,
we're looking at a PlayStation controller that basically the pilot uses to maneuver this submersible.
And you know, people criticize that, Yes, I fair enough,
I'm so glad you bring that up. But is it a fair Is it
rick a fair thing to criticize? I know it looks simple, but the
technology is so advanced it was working. It worked. I mean, they'd
be doing this since twenty one. Yeah, and they've they've done trips to
the Titanic annually, just to repeat, uh, you know, a submersion
to that depth and have your vessel repeatedly be used is proof a certain technology.
But they do have unique technology that's been engineering there. You know,
they do have the real time hull health monitoring system that basically monitor is that
carbon fiber hall in the titanium, and if there's any when we look at
the integrity of the hall, if there's any any breach of that, then
the pilot knows immediately to begin their ascent. Yeah. So I'm suspecting that
there are multiple failures, uh that has occurred unless they're are on the surface
and they just haven't located them at this point. And you know, there's
the only speculation. So we've got a bunch of things going on here that
between the design and the fell safe systems or what sort in place. You
know, it's interesting people are yelling regulations have to be brought in for this
kind of diving, this kind of experience, and I am fully supportive of
the fact that we should be doing this kind of exploration. We don't know
much about the oceans. We know, you know, we're just getting into
space. And now that the private sectors got involved, you know, space
race is probably hard and fund taken off a little bit better. Yea.
But you know there there are more companies out there that do this kind of
deep sea exploration, just not to this kind of depth in taking these kind
of passengers down. So you know, ocean gates kind of leading the way
and that and with that comes the observation and crittigue of your technology. Do
they dive Titanic or is it just kind of a Titanic thing for them?
The Titanic sort of funds if I understand it correctly, sort of funds other
products that they have. You know, you're paying two hundred and fifty thousand
for a passenger to get on us, and it is it is like I
say, an experience. You're going from daylight to pitch blackness, limited only
for the available artificial lighting that they can bring with them. What's what have
limited penetration into the depth darkness that's down there. But they're take those funds
and then they'll go start looking at reefs and other different things like that,
and so we can learn more about the reef structure, how deep reefs can
go, the benefit of a reef in terms of our global planet and its
survivability, and that probably into climate change and those other things. So it's
sort of a means to an end, but you're really steeling the human spirit
and the desire for exploration, and those that can afford it are obviously jumping
onto it. I imagine he's had up to this point. We're talking in
Stockton, Russia at this time, because he's on the vessel. You know,
he's probably has a lineup of people willing to go. I mean,
look at Bosno's and these people are taking people up into space. William standards
finally can commits as they're not now. Yeah, I mean people have paid
some premium dollars go and do this experience in their case, to go out
and look at a blue planet or it's incredible. Yeah. So I had
met a lady that did on the Titanic many years ago. She says.
It's kind of interesting. You go from the twilight zone of what we call
the Natzal light still penetrating, you get to the dark and it's dark.
Dark is dark you know, and until the lights come on, you really
don't get much. You see the bioluminescence and all this other stuff. But
she said when they got down, you know, she's kind of playing optimistic
in the Hollywood images of what the Titanic is and stuff. All of a
sudden the dowel appeared and it really sunk into her heart on that point,
and just realize the significance of what they had just achieved. Yeah, you
know, as I said in one of the interviews, I mean, people
talk about a needle in the haystack. Well, you've got the Titanic,
as big as it is, as far as being an ocean liner, it's
still a needle in a haystack. The seventy percent of the planet right now.
You're looking for a needle on a needle in a haystack, even if
it's in the area. So rink, well, pretty dunk. I'm sorry
to interrupt, but you go ahead. You're you're an expert diver, you're
part of the international dive team. I don't know what the right phrase is
there. I'm with the National associate for Cave Diving. I'm with the Professional
Associates and Diving in starctors. I'm with the International Diver I teach people to
scuba dive from not knowing anything after doing full deep cave exploration. I work
with public safety divers, law enforcement dive teams. UM. I do research
and development, kind of been a guinea pig in a couple of cases in
hyperparre chambers and then U equipment manufacturers. I've done R and D for that,
so I've done. You're an expert, I would say, I would
say, I know as the interviews, okay, yeah, would you're company
learning? Would you get into this vessel? I know I would. I
would know this vessel specifically, yes, now knowing what I know, and
you know, I mean you think of the Titanic. We didn't have many
cruise liners didn't have lifeboats sufficient for the passengers until after the Titanic, that's
true, and life jackets. So now we have that. So this may
it's unfortunate that we have to have an accident to occur that certain guidelines and
regulations get put in place. And listen, you have to have this.
You have to have this. The airline industry has it right, and maybe
the awkward industry, if I can call it that, you know, the
summercial industry has to start looking at the third history. I mean, there's
a lot of successes, but maybe when you start to bring the average citizen
into play, well then you know, the risk factor goes up, the
liability goes up. So it's fine. You can sign a waiver and say,
well, I accept the risk of doing this. I mean, at
twelve thousand, five hundred feet, nobody can hear your scream or well they
can actually, and that's what they're listening for. But the reality is,
I mean you've accepted your terms. So you know, if I had a
chance to go down and need a Titanic and I started my scuba diving begining
round and muddy waters and low visibility waters up in Canada in the Autowa vers,
I couldn't tell you. I had no idea that we're there. You
know, well, you know what, you're not far from us if Ottawa,
because we're right off Lake Ontario and Rochester. M that's right. Yeah,
And I have former students that are from Rochester and I've been in Lake
area, and I've been in Lake Ontario and stuff. So um, following
doing Selbridge work, and I used to bring trees up from the bottom of
the river and sell them off to a million plant. You know it good
lumber. Wow. Well, then I went into rect I mean, so
I have great interest in Rex and I've been on some of the most famous
wreck like the one of the last big Rex hours on the Zenobia but sank
in like nineteen eighty five the ferry out of out of Atlanta, Cyprus.
So that's a premium wreck. Now I have not Middle East in nineteen seventy
six. I've been a diver, but I've not hit Truckler Goon yet.
That that's on my bucket. Would you would you do the tighten or would
you do the cave? Say for the Chinese soccer kids that were stuck in
that cave that they did that movie? He did it. He was part
of that. He was he was part of Well, I was not part
of the actual team line, but I was part of the discussion group on
that. I am a member of the International Underwater Cave Rescuing Recovery And that's
that's sort of where my law enforcement assistance comes in, because you know,
respectful to the public safety diving teams and the police divers, many of them
really they're trained to the basis level they get with their agency, and then
the agency sort of beasts up the training for what it meets their needs.
A lot of them very soldom actually get into advanced level or even the rescue
diver training and stuff. But they're the police are They're after the fact anyway,
They're not there to for the most part, except the rescue. It's
really a recovery. And some of the systems that we have here in Florida,
I mean, you know, the depoled in the egos and nessary getting
cave systems that are in the three hundred plus foot deep range, and cave
diving itself has its own risk, let alone going deep. So sometimes some
of my dives take more time to plan than they do execute the dive I
got. In this case, we look into the Titan. I mean,
it's not like these people just jumped on the boat. They have an eight
day window of doing things. And I'm sure that you know, ocean Gate
did some preliminary training advise them. So here's how you can control the vessel,
maybe some stimulator work or whatever, pull them the risks and then presented
the liability to form in front of them. So I mean, in the
end, it's their choice, right, and then selecting, making sure that
everything's a goal, whether the systems are on the vessel itself, keeping the
vessel as simple as they can. And you have to understand they're not at
the same pressure that the outside of the vessel is experiencing. So let's assume
they've got down to the Thai Tanic. You're twelve thousand, five hundred seat.
That's three hundred and eighty bar or three hundred and eighty atmospheres. Absolutely,
so that is going to yield just the pressure alone a posting level fifty
six hundred psi wow, for every square into that vehicle human body cannot tolerate.
There's no way that they the inner pressure of that that submarine is at
that. I believe that they pressure as it to what they refer to as
one atmosphere, so they try to keep the pressure as best they can,
essentially as zero feat. That would allow them to come back up relatively quick.
So this whole dive trip should have taken maybe eight nine hours total run
time from surface to surface. Um, now they've got themselves in a position
wherever they are again we assume they're down on the Titanic or close thereof I
mean eighty seven hundred feet nothing to like close your eyes at. But you
know they're breathing a compressed gas. Um that gas has to be measured.
It's it's medium. And I'm saying gas because it's you know, I know
the media saying oxygen. Ye're right, yeah, you know it's one gas
of many. There's nitrogen in there. And for people that study decompression on
its, the coasts made it very clear they're bringing in portable decompression hyperderet chambers
and stuff. Because to bring these people up here, here's kind of a
scenario. You could think it put your whole frustrating. This must be you're
in there, you're tapping on this thing, making noise and hoping that some
song or be can pick you up. Then also some ROVs tapping on the
glass and some private vessels that has the capability to do that kind of thing
drops down and they're going to clamp onto you. Now, maybe you have
only four hours left of your air supply. Well that's not still going to
cut it because they have to bring you up at a controlled pace to avoid
decompression. Right, So, now here you're gett into the search of ball.
I mean me, i'd say, well, we'll pull you up,
We'll put you in the chamber. I mean, you know you're gonna have
to head your bet somewhere or the other here, because at a certain point
it's just a no goal. There's this, I mean, the searcher would
be just fruitless sort of thing. And we have to be real to that.
But at the same time, I think we you know, we don't
lose hope, right, yeah, rackers, things that happened in the past,
no, right, And look, you consulted on one of the most
miraculous that's saving of those kids in the cave alvern Asia. I mean that's
amazing, played by play perhaps, yeah, you know sort of thing.
They had the right divers on that, and that that is an example of
the logistics it took. I mean, you have the cave diver skills,
ye, to get the thirteen out they went in. So the logistics just
to keep the you know, nature at bay, pumping out water, pumping
out water, pumping water, and is the very last rescue diver exited the
staging point. He came up and by the time as I understood that,
the he watched from the staging point up to let's just say the shoreline the
water had come from basically what was his ankles up to just above his knees.
Well, they had all the kids out, so shut the pumps down.
You don't care, Well, well, we've done our job. We
can clean it up later in the stream. You know. The water is
received sort of thing. And that is a pure example of just the color
which want. It is a miracle and it's just to do what they did
and how they say they did the kids. Well, here and now we
have people that intentionally went and did what they did, not seeing the kids
into the cave intention but I mean they know or should have known the risk
going into that, yes, exactly. So you're looking at that now when
we look at comparable things that we could take a lesson from. I mean,
obviously we have the soccer team rescue, we have that. We have
the miners of a Chile, the thirty three miners that were rescued back in
two thou ten or what it was. You have the Russian submarine the Cursed.
Now that was three hundred and fifty feet down, not even close to
what the Titanic at that, but one hundred and eighteen people lost their lives
on that. A Dutch company recovered the entire submarine. Now to pull something
out from twelve thousand, five hundred feet there's a lot of effort compared to
three hundred and fifty. And I can tell your three hundred and fifty's a
major undertaking in itself. Look at the Air France flight four four to seven,
you know, the missing plane and flight MHT zero and whatnot. I
mean that was a significantly deep plane, but they went down. You know
you love those black boxes, right, Yeah, they located that. So
already we're seeing some potential design flaws. Where is it where as the no
emergency locator transmitters where they knocked off? Why did not the ballast drop off
the submersible and allow it to come to the surface. Um? What other
bailout systems do they have? And you know inside you've got five people nervous,
so their breathing rate is going to go up, yes, at an
increasing breeding rate. The scrubbers that removed the CO two and whatever backup systems
like maybe other additional scrubss they can deploy. I even forgot about that sort
of the CEO too, that you're breathing out so you're right, you feel
like an a Pall thirteen situation where there's condensation on the inside of the cord.
Yeah, okay, yep, yep. Basically so here you know,
um, they're having to rely on them to recertainly there and augment oxygen to
ensure you have a breathable means, right, sustainable You need to sustainable other
it's side. Those scrubbers have a certain time on it. That times you
got to play until that ninety six hours because if you go past a certain
point of time, those scrubtures can no longer provide the abstraction of the CEO
two. Wow. Right, yeah, and so we have that stuff that
the temperature, the humidity that has to be controlled. The temperature alone,
you're dealing with temperatures now as you get deeper gets cold, so you're dealing
with temperatures that are below freezing. These people, if they're at depth,
are going to be cold. Hypothermia is a possibility, just that alone,
without even looking at the decompression equation trying to bring them back up the CEO
two. The surface are the subsurface, are in the midwater column somewhere drifting
in the currents because you have the gold stream current coming up the currents coming
down, So even sound can't travel normally because off it will hit from these
these current flows and it's going to bend and going off in different directions.
So these P three Ryan aircraft CP one forty aircraft that Cannis have, they're
dropping these Sallo boys um submarines a part we're going to come up. And
you know, give give credit to these crust listeners on these subs because they've
trained and trained and trained to distinguish the difference between a rusted piece of metal
to plastics and different things that are map It's amazing, it's amazing. We
don't have submarines in the Navy that I know of that can make that kind
even the nucrous up that could possibly make that kind of depth. Yeah,
and if they did, what are they going to do? Rump it with
the nose and try to like the whale to bring the calf up to the
surface. I mean, I'm wondering if Richard Branson has sent something out.
He seems to have some kind of I don't know. I just there's got
a big Virgin logo on the side of it. Doesn't matter. We're able
to save the guy. Yeah, I mean, then that would be the
guy to do it. I don't think ranch are going to complain about whoever
comes here. I think you got it, you know, yeah, I
boy, all the things that you're laying out here, it makes it sound
uh nearly impossible. But as you said, miracles have happened, So we'll
keep our fingers crossed. Yeah, this I mean exactly, and I would
hope to that based on the hours less. And you know, there's gonna
be a certain point it's just going to have to call it. But the
reality is, I mean historically doing any kind of Google search or anything,
this has got to be the deepest attempt at rescue of anything that we could
ever think of in history, right, you know, I mean various submarines
that have something that nothing's been that kind of has that kind of depth.
No, have they recovered things from the Titanic. Yes, I mean you
can go to an exhibition somewhere you can see a bulkhead from the Titanic.
Well, it's a bulkhead. There's nobody's life attached to that bulkhead. Yes,
you know, human remains can't survive at that depth, so you know,
they pulled it up using the lift rank systems and stuff that can be
worked by the ROV. So I want to say that the technology to recover
the vessels there, but the keys can recover it with five people alive.
That's the question. And you know you hate to say about the clock to
ticking, It really is ticking, yea. And the lessons that we should
learn all this is we honestly have to look at it and we have to
say, hey, okay, what what was good? What was not good?
What do we need to improve on? And there's going to be people
say we should oft be doing this kind of stuff. I don't agree with
that. I think that I think we have to explore our planets. Yeah,
I think I think the Mormon about this planet, the better will will
be able to uh push into space and to you know, take on other
frontiers and just maybe handle things. Like you're worried about climate change. I
look at climate change, it's inevitable. Yeah, I mean, you know,
look at the glaciers. They received it. Well, there's climate change.
It's happening. But you know, we could better prepare ourselves for that.
We you know, stuff like that, these these oil companies, I
mean just their capabilities along where they drill deep into the ocean. You know,
they're getting down some pretty good depths. I mean, they might have
some of that eye, but the coast Guard, the navy of both countries,
and that France is getting in their Britain's coming into the play. Um.
You know, honestly, I've been the Russians in I don't I don't
like politics is going to play a game on this. But the reality is,
you know that if there's any hope and there's any technology that can be
applied, and it's going to you know, because the time let's say,
let's say ship X y Z from whatever country shows up, if they have
the ability to listen, we can get this. They're not going to have
a lot of time to rig up a system. They're gonna have to like
kind of like we know the demension that you know the same ways twenty one
thousand pounds and we're not going to bring it up to a longs platform.
We're gonna pull it up onto the deck or into the hall, depending how
the ship's designed, and they're going to bring it up, you know,
and they won't have a lot of time to play with it because the five
people that are on board. Yeah, I really appreciate you explaining all this
and you did it so well. One last question that has nothing to do
with what we're talking about, and the question is I have no social life
to carry on reck. How do you feel? How do you feel about
the Vegas Knights winning the Stanley Cup. You know, it's interesting. I
remember having a little conflict from Tampa when their first standing. Yeah, sure,
I couldn't I get that. I mean, I was born in Calgary
and here I'm watching them go, like, I mean, what was that
double overtime? So I mean, honestly, I thought about and I said,
hey, you know that was actually good for the geat. Yeah.
And the original general manager, fill Upsido was smart how we devel up a
hockey. It was a smart guy. So when I look at when I
look at the you know, the Knights winning it, I'm thinking, like,
you know, their first inaugural season was pretty good, yep, you
know, and they had a good one this season and the Panthers and stuff.
I was a little bit surprised. I mean the goal like the day
against the Panthers. Thought, well, Panthers played a bunch of tough series.
I was you know, I'm a Canadian all and Toronto was not necessarily
my favorite team, but I mean, tickman, hey, come on Toronto
nineteen sixty seven, Throns, Hey you got by round one, you know,
and I was trying of hoping for well, they didn't get it.
So I said, well, you know, let's see if the Panthers made
and they got you know, they got to the final U so like,
good for them. Um, you know, it's hockey. I mean,
if you don't want to watch, fuckey, wait a few minutes and a
fightal break up, but you know you get six guys together wearing stocktons and
guard belts looking to score, you know, fighting, then half an hour
later gold and Jake Beer. I mean, you know, tell me the
Canadians are friendly and say polite things to each other. You know, it
is what it is. But no, I'm I'm cool with that. Um,
you know, but the well, there's technology again. I mean,
maybe they need six different ice making cooing machines in the uh, you know,
a biggest arena, I just to make sure the ice surface survives.
But that's okay. We can get out there and and it's a good sport
that shared around the world right to follow up Seattle and Las Vegas next year
in Seattle, and it's going to be indoors. What kind of winter classics
indoors in Seattle, that's it. Yeah, I don't know about that.
Yeah, but Seattle. You know, if you have an outdoors, the
rainmate come in and the ice, right, that's true, you know what
I mean? Hey, look, as fans of the Buffalo Sabers, we
have nothing to form story. Yes, exactly exactly what happened there. I
mean they had what app Yeah, you know what songs I mean. You
know, we look at the US based teams and the Canadian based teams.
We look at the original six, you know, and people compare and all
that, tham, But the original six you had more of an elite structure
because there's only six teams, you know, one hundred thousand kids trying to
make it into the league. So the branch the WHL formed and merging with
the NHL and all this stuff. This is a good thing if they wanted
to do anything at cities like Hamilton to get a team and Toronto Detroit to
just suck it up and share the walls. Ye money in that area yea
and Buffalo made a little say into that. You got three teams like right
next door to each other. You know, um, carry on, carry
on, like I think full well, there's places to have other teams.
Maybe Reginers should get a team. You want to put another Canadian team in
there. People say, well, I don't know if they can make it.
Well, Quebec, their biggest problem is that, you know, if
they don't get a winning team, they don't want the team right once.
You're all so put one in Halifax. Don't tell me that Winnipeg can house
a team. When you look at the NHL, I mean, how many
NHL players come out of Western Canada. You know Alberta Sa Scatchrin in Manitoba.
Both of them are from Edmonton. You know, when you look at
the percentage you've got, what is it, sixty three percent of the league
players are Canadian and of that more than get the seven percent of the coming
of Edington. Yeow, so, okay, a team in Saskatoon. Put
it, Put a team, yeah, yeah, put it. Put a
team in Saskatoon, or one in Regina, or maybe in both cities,
sell it and come back in Toronto. Those are the only two. Yeah,
well you know what it is. I laughed from people say, well,
you know, people don't want to drive like an hour and a half
to watch a hockey game into Scotchman. They're talking a bunch of people that
were drive two hours to sit outside watching a football game in the Canadian football
So what else does it to do in Saskatoon in December? Yeah, isn't
it? Stared on the pump? Yeah? By the way, you know,
from where we sit, I believe he was. Was he the first
American captain of the Montreal Canadian? Sort of? Theo was the first solo
solo American cap, solo American caps from from right here? Yeah, did
you find did you find Bill Barilco? Was that you did? I?
Who did you Bill Barilco? When he when the heat he died on a
fishing trip, but they found him nine years later, and that's when the
Leafs finally want a cup again. They could They couldn't win a cup to
sixty two. So I'm asking did you find him? Were you the guy
who found Bill Barilico? No, No, I'm not that. I just
wonder. Tragical Dad was an avid Toronto fan, you know, and back
then I looked at them just to be a little well you know what kind
of to serve. I'm talking about guys as well. I like months roll,
you know, so that heat it up the whole, the winner,
you know what I mean. But I remember seven year old kid and you
know they understand the cup and he would literally go, kid, shut up.
Yeah, you know, and munch all. I mean they've done some
dumb things like leave the cup sitting on the street corner, have a fall
through the ice, and a sort of playing king stuff. But at least
they wanted more than every team. Now since you know, the Atlanta Flames
became the Calgary Flames and the although Centators came back in the fold, I
kind of like readjusted my alliance there a little bit, you know sort of
thing. But you know it's a good spree of core and rivalry. Yeah,
you know, and you have these teams you could you could talk about
Toronto and Montreal. Where you can talk about Boston and Montreal. You can
talk to Toronto and Detroit, you know, I mean hoggle back in the
you know, stuff like that, and uh, you know, you get
out now. It's good that you see, you know, these other teams
starting to come up and that's probably good for the nights, you know what
I mean, Just like, Okay, you're I'm a ball team, but
hey you want it. Yeah, so let's let's get another Western team,
Mountain Wyoming or something, you know what I mean. Yeah, Casper,
we'll get out like they don't have winter, No, I mean they have
winter. I think eleven months out of the year. Uh rick. Oh
if we're wasn't for Colorado, you've written all the exists in the winter,
you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, you're right. Yeah,
it's been a pleasure. I really really appreciate you. The name of your
company is Aquatic Adventures Florida incorporate Cardic Adventures to Florida. Yeah, Florida.
I own that. I own an online thing called zeal Express. Huh.
I've been a diver since nineteen seventy six, so I've been at this water
team for a little while. No, not, that's nineteen ninety six.
Yeah. Well it's no socialize that's what I do. Um sort of thing,
you know, some words are at a little bit of a military curat
to step in for thirty years, but done with the diving and it's it's
dummy. Well, well, very good, and I appreciate it. You
really explain that well. And I hope things do work out for the Titan
and Ocean Gate. Yeah I do, I do, but I say I
see things going to have to change. Yeah, but we'll we're learning that
after, hopefully after he's successful recovered and rescue. All right, well,
thank you again for your time. Well, thank you sir, byebye,
have a good day in good evening too. There he goes Rick Murker.
If you are Hamish harding, it's relatives. He's a British billionaire. Are
you hoping they find Are you thinking? Am I in the will? Don't?
Don't tell me there isn't some end. They're all thicking. I was
probably gonna suspend the boat for six weeks. Doug Phelps is probably dating somebody
in that family right now, and he's probably waiting for the will reading.
I'll tell you no matter what goes wrong with that, with that submarine,
I can say one thing. At least, it's not a keel they've got.
Now. I don't want to sound stupid interview, but they've got somebody
from this submarine company that's driving this thing. It's not just like we paid
our money. In Danny's I drive it. I believe no, and you
heard on I believe yes. I believe the answer is yes. I think
when you're the passenger, you're just he only had a permit, not a
license. Um. But they're texting down the coordinates because you can't see and
there's no GPS underneath the ocean. But it just didn't sound like they had
somebody from this company. They do it, and the CEO was on is
in there now, so that that we know, we will take a moment.
Talk a little DeAndre Hopkins U and sex stortion in the NBA sex store
sex Storeship. Yes, you'll get to that, plus a little Wikipedia Fine
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It's a lot of fun race and Randy goes down there every week and
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you get to see that, and I think that's uh open to a kid's
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vanished on the breeze, trying to hold onto that was just impossible. She
was lovely beautiful, close to to therea with a kind of down to earth
flavor like the ocean clo all there a real life. She's really gone some
class. Is this a mix solo? No? No? Yeah? Bridges
the ball Katie Katie Lange. The record company thought he was ripping her off
with the chorus, so he gave her a writing credit. I still don't
hear it on this one too, No, I can, and now they
bring it up. I remember that, Yeah, it was what was her
song that cost? Yeah? Well, we had this guy named Tom in
high school but had their bowl cuts. Well he had really black hair,
so we called Katie Lange hated it, and of course, of course I
laughed, because today if there were somebody that we all knew, I go,
hey, man, how's Katie Lange? But I would say it to
you guys. Ye, spoiler town was Dan. Oh no, this dude.
We invited him to the to the class reunion. We had a class
reunione coming up in July twenty five years. Yeah, and he won't return
my messages. May say, we have a constant craving to see you.
Should we call him on the show the number? We'll have to see what
we could track him down? Uh. Wikipedia is a is a great thing
ken there and you can find out information. And Kevin did a little Wikipedia
research on something that was said earlier on the program today. Yes, where's
mcfolly from whale com No, he's not. He's from Long Island. He
was born in Indiana. He moved to Long Island maybe Wikipedia. Yeah,
but you know what, he's not that far off because where do you go
to the court for college? I thought because I thought that he had spent
time in Whitland. Well, then you might be right. I don't maybe
I have no Okay excited he was so excited to jump on you because it
was the last wrestling thing, the last yeah right, yeah yeah, de
Eric Bischoff situations right, all right. I left when he came back in
the from the bathroom, like I just want him to tell because if you
said anything, I thought it'd be funny to bring it up. But Danny
doesn't react to stuff. He's just like, yeah, I got it wrong,
all right, said Danny. I didn't know what men either earlier.
I didn't. I did. I was Kevin, Oh, I was introducing
what I thought of men. But I don't. I don't know what does
it stands like? I didn't mean like that. But I'm like, are
they embracing this? Uh? One of the guy won't call you back.
So I'm I'm seeing when I watched any kind of sports, there are a
couple of things that they're talking about right now. The big trade in the
NBA, Chris Paul leaving the Phoenix, but then sort of a what's knocked
down to Tier two NBA wise? Is what is happening with a guy everybody
thought was gonna be an absolute stud in the NBA. I didn't. You
didn't. I didn't think Zion Williamson was gonna be a spell Zion Williamson.
I think people did think that. Oh yeah, there were plenty of people
who did. Has he been in the league for three years now? Yes?
Eighty two game seasons, Yes, He's played one hundred and nineteen games
right, three years, but now he was overweighted. Yeah. Shoot,
remember he exploded out of his shoe. Yes, that was a duke,
Yeah right, yes, I mean I think the guy's a phenomenal athlete and
he looks like he could play. If he stayed healthy, he'd be a
I think, a force in the NBA. But all that Cajun food caught
up with him. Well, I don't know. Nobody wants to be in
New Orleans. Ady didn't want to be there. Zion don't want to be
there. Yon thinks he's better than that. Okay, so nobody wants to
Nobody wants to play with Zion. There's it's coming out too that and more,
not on these shows, not on like Sports Center, but I'm seeing
more and more about him partying a bit and hanging out with women and having
sex. And now there's a porn star. I think her name is Mariah
Mills. And Mariah says that she has sex tapes of her and Zion and
he also has them on his trap phone, she says, And she says,
the New Orleans Pelicans trade him. Now he doesn't deserve to be in
New Orleans sex tapes dropping soon? And I'm going, who, what's a
trap phone? A trap phone? Would I think a trap phone is like
your phone that you keep for your side piece, like it's a second phone.
Oh no, I don't know, but like a burner for your baby.
I'm I'm deducing that. Yes, most people will call it her burner.
You got this? This this news too for sex workers? What is
that? I don't know what did you tell me? Because I guess the
ranches are all offering the night golden knife players? Are they fun nights?
Fun nights? Fun nights? That's funny? But what happens with with this
if she drops his sex tape? Like, I don't even I think it's
more to get attention to her if she's in a Yeah, And I don't
think anybody cares about the Zion Williamson thing. And I don't think that.
Yeah, the NBA's like, don't threaten us with a good job. It's
like, come on, And I don't know. I think the NBA's in
pretty good shape. And I think Zion Williamson I feel bad, But I
don't know if the guy, I think he may be what some people refer
to as a cancer. Oh I was gonna say a bust. Oh yeah,
he could be. I wonder, I do wonder he could be.
I mean I I remember watching the draft going I would take Luca and it
was like, yeah, but you don't know what I mean. He played
with pros in Europe, right, but it was between him. The best
players now are coming out of Europe. Oh dude, the best player ever,
the best prospect ever is coming out of Europe. You know. I
mean I I look at it and go the game is becoming European. I
think that the Dream Team in ninety two injected the world with heyst the best
basketball is he played the United States, just like the best soccers played in
Europe. Yeah. You know, even if the best players, some of
them are from South America, they all play in Europe, you know.
And the United States is the place to play basketball. But the best players
are now coming out of out of the rest of the world. Why because
they have to grow up sooner in college. I mean, these guys can
really come out of high school for one year they're in college that you have
I'm going to the NBA there. Their maturity level sucks. When's the draft
is coming up, like in a couple of days, yes, tomorrow,
Thursday, but yes, so uh, I think the number one pick is
a European. Yeah, it's gonna be win Bognana from Who's gonna be taken
by He's from France. He's gonna be taken by a freaking Popovich's at San
Antonio guys, one of the I want to say he's the luckiest coach,
but I mean, like his system stopped working once he lost players all of
a sudden, His system doesn't work anymore. He's a he's a systems guy,
but his system worked when he had great players. Now, to his
credit, he selected him, but he also won the lot I mean,
you want to hear, you want to hear a great story. Rick Pettino
would still be probably coaching in the NBA if the Celtics and not the Spurs
had won the lottery and got the draft Tim Duncan and you would have never
heard of Gregg Popovich. Wow, yeah, yeah, you gotta have players.
Yeah, well Duncan player, he was that that guy. Yeah.
The big fundamental is they called one of the most boring stars ever. Uh.
Meanwhile, we look over at the NFL and I don't know Kevin.
There hasn't been any movement on DeAndre Hopkins. They said it's not going to
be for a while. They said it could be closer to camp really would
make any moves. He wants him a ridiculous amount of money for a guy
who can't get separation. And if you can't get separation, you're worthless.
So New England are the betting favorite still, at least in Vegas. Okay.
Uh, the line implies Vegas believes they're precisely a fifty percent chance Hopkins
ends up Hopkins ends up in New England. And do they desperately need a
wide receiver? Yes? Yes? For years? Well, Brian the new
offensive corner. He was Houston Bill O'Brien. Uh, he was the head
coach in Houston. Who there, Yes, he did. On paper,
it looks like a pretty good fit. Him and O'Brien didn't get along.
Okay, So the number two spot for him to land according to Vegas odds
plus three hundred and fifty the Rochester Jeffersons, you got it, you're absolutely
right, semi protein. The Buffalo bill. That's the Alby Firebirds. The
Buffalo Bills feel like an obvious landing spot. According to this article, given
Allan's potential MVP being a at least he's an MVP candidate, right, we
can say that, uh, and they're a contender, but they're saying they
think it's very doubtful because Buffalo only has about five million dollars in cap room.
Now, a lot of people are saying that some of the drama was
Stefon Diggs was over the fact that he was told they were going to get
DeAndre Hopkins and when he showed up, they told him that wasn't the case,
and he flipped out because once, I don't know, according to the
language in the CBA everything, they can restructure your contracts because you get paid.
Yes, they don't have to have you agreed to it. As long
as you get your money. It doesn't matter how you get your money.
That's just simple way. So it's a little bit more complicated than that.
And so the story is that he could be upset that either he was or
wasn't coming to town that they might bring him in and they might not bring
him in. Well, then why I get restructured and blah blah blah,
and you know, and Josh Allen had alluded the fact that it wasn't a
football issue. Well everything's a football issue, but it could be a money
issue. I mean, like it. It's a different FFing rumor every single
day with this dude, is Miami on your list? Because Miami is not
on my list. Number three, according to this is the Tennessee Tight I
can see that, and the Tennessee Titans supposedly. Now Buffalo is the two
teams that I've talked to him into bells. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
He hasn't had a visit there, and I don't know. Oh,
he's in New York now with the Giants or Jets. Jets with the Jets.
Excuse me, so he's meeting with the Jets. I think they're like
fourth or fifth. According to this, it goes uh New England, Buffalo,
the Tennessee Titans, where they said the meeting went great. But one
of the things they think is holding it back is they flew. They floom
to Nashville on Southwest. Okay, well it's a Southwest hub and from south
well it's all, but it's a superstar athlete that you're trying to land.
Don't worry, mister Hopkins, don't you don't you get them better than mister
Craft. No, couldn't they get Vince Young? Couldn't they get Vince Young
to buy out all the seats like he did before on the southwest of the
reason I said Miami is Terreek Hill is apparently under investigation for allegedly striking a
Marina employee god over the weekend. So, by the way, Kansas City
made out like bandits on that trade. And by the way, the fourth
team in this the Lions. They were they were ten to one. Yeah,
but Helvin and that's what the So the NFL wants to get the Lions
to do hard knocks again because they were very interesting. People were very curious
about the Lions, like why have the Lions been so bad for years?
But their head coach, of course, Dan Campbell is a nut, but
he's a good nut, and he's fun to he's fun, he's fun to
root for, and if you watched it, it was actually a lot of
fun. It was probably the most fun and a long time. And so
they're climbing and their offensive coordinator Ben Johnson, they think is gonna be like
a front runner for the next NFL head coaching job because he's an offensive mine.
And he got he's getting Jared Goff to play football again. He's getting
that team to move the ball, and de Hoot might be a good landing
spot for them. I thought that isn't interesting. I thought it was in
the CBA they couldn't do. You know, no, they don't have to.
Once you've done it, you don't have to do it again. The
NFL wants them to do it. They're saying, no, we're not doing
that again. Okay, so you don't have to do it. You don't
have to do it again. But the NFL wants them. I think they
got a great defensive pick last year in the draft, and I think that
the not previous year twenty twenty, they got some premium, premium, primo
games. I think they have the season opener against Kansas City this year.
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Brew rock dot com. I know we were going to say that save this
till tomorrow, but Danny's brother was listening to the podcast from a Father's Day
when we talked about the Hilton pooper live from Tampa, and I haven't gotten
more reports on the Hilton pooper, and I'll have to go and see if
I can find some more things. But this is a person who, according
to what I learned, and it hasn't hit the news that it was somebody
walking their dog. And again, it could be somebody from a couple of
streets over that you're not familiar with coming down to your street. This woman
let her dog continuously crap in somebody's yard. They confronted the woman, she
got pissed and came back at night, and they have her on a ring
doorbell taking a dump in the yard. I would bet money she's from the
apartments over there by tops. I would guarantee that where she lives. Okay,
why why do you say that I live in an apartment? Come on,
this is not the pines of Hilton, the pines of Greasy. Alright,
alright, Hilton. So what did your brother say? Glt? Okay?
He goes. So I listened to the Father's Day podcast. He kind
of like as a Jordan Moran type of voice. Yeah, so I listened
to the Father's Day podcast where you guys were talking about the poop Lady.
When we lived to Colorado Springs, we had one called the Mad Shitter.
It was a poop lady as well. Well. Thanks Ryan. I'm now
wondering if this is the same person, Like, why are we why are
women shitting on people's lawns? I got I gotta tell Billy ll Yeah,
I was. I was like, is this the same woman? Then he
sends me a picture. I don't know if it's so. It's a Google
story, right, it says the mad Pooper, and it shows a woman
look in a track suit, look like she's running like a marathon or something.
The mad Pooper is the nickname given it to an unidentified woman in Colorado
Springs, Colorado, United States, who repeatedly defecated in public while jockey during
the summer months of twenty seventeen. Pretty sure poor in the Wikipedia, she's
wanted. She's wanted by the Colorado Springs police departments that July twenty seventeen.
He goes, that was a big thing when I was in Colorado. She
was on the news like every night. They had an anonymous tip that the
person had a ball disorder or something, but they never caught the person.
And I remember this being in the news. And there was another one in
Florida where a superintendent would go out for a run every day and they caught
him shitting on her rival schools, like multiple times. Mister Belding was over.
Mister Belding was at Valley High School tomorrow and tomorrow. I don't mean
to say it this way, but getting into the poop, it's a shit
shelf. And so how about we do that story. And I get a
call the other day from my father who says to me, I don't listen
to the podcast. Yeah, he never listens to the podcast except when he
listens to the podcast. Now I know you are your mother. Your mother
told me about it. He said that I'll download and I'll speed through.
I don't have two hours to sit captive. I go both people are listening
to what they're doing. Things right, you know, or you pause it
and he come back. So uh, but he said I have the ultimate
poop story. And I started laughing, and it's true he did. Yeah,
my dad was working on his doctorate and he was going to getting it
at Foredom in philosophy. And I'll never understand. And I've never asked him
this, and I'm sure if he does hear this, i'll ask it now.
He had three kids, and he bought himself, like he had a
car. My mom had a car, and he bought a two seater Fiarro.
He had three kids. Yeah, you know, this is kind of
weird. But anyway, today's your week for the paring. So I don't
know why I was awake, because I think I might still I don't know
where I was in my academic career. But maybe I had taken the gap
year or that I call it. I had Fisher because I know that his
letter of recommendation to go back for his doctorate was written by the head of
the lost to his department at Fisher, who we met with when I went
to Fisher. So I think I had taken a year off from Fisher.
And I was working. My dad comes in and he's standing at the sink
and he kind of had his pants would always kind of sag, and I'm
looking at his butt at the sink, is at the kitchen sink, and
I'm sitting there and I, God, what did you sit in? And
he goes, what? And I said, what did you sit in?
I go it looks like a banana, but it's all in the shape of
a question mark. What are you talking about? Whatever? He sticks his
hand back there and he feels something, and now he goes, Now,
my dad had had what later on at Lahey clinic was it was said to
be a mild stroke. Boy, I hope he doesn't get pissed at me
because I am saying things. I don't know if he wants that information out
or not. Nobody like your dad, well, no, no, but
he lost his sense of smell. And it was always a joke. And
I think I've talked about this, like he would always say that Miss Manner
says, no sound below the neck exists, so you don't acknowledge it.
So we used to rip farts at dinner and just farts, and he'd go
my mother would be getting all upset, and he goes, I don't smell
anything. I don't know, I don't hear a thing, and oh no,
no sound below the neck. And but he couldn't smell it either.
So he drove from the Bronx, which was two to two and a half
hours away from where I lived, up the Sprain Brook and the Iconic Parkway
and all the way in, and it turned out someone he had left the
car door unlocked. Somebody hopened it and took a ship in his front seat,
someone toilet seat and moved on. He drove all the way home in
it. So now it's in his band. He told me later that he
was He took like three or four hot showers, could never get a clean
I think when out scrubbed the car was so I mean out of his mind,
disgusted, bought car seats and covered the seats to the car and wouldn't
I mean, I don't know its tyrone. Shortly after, but Yesh shit
in his seat and he drove all the way home in it and sat it.
No, I don't believe smelled it right. And I remember sitting there
and I'm laughing because I go, it looked like it looked like shit.
But I'm thinking there's no way. So sometimes, like my dad used to
call one of his cars the back seat the slums of Calcutta. He would
just throw banana peals V eight one. He would throw orange peels back there,
and it was the slums of Calcutta, and he would always joke about
it. So weg he'd clean out the carnal weekends. That was no big
deal. But I thought maybe he forgot there was a banana and he sat
on it and he don't I don't know. It didn't make sense to me
that someone dump in his car. They did, So there you go.
Tomorrow we'll have more shit stories because I think this shitting thing is maybe we're
running into more of a boot problem in the United States. Maybe irriteba ball
syndrome is UH spreading after the vaccine. I don't know. It could be.
He started. I saw it on your face ahead and I had an
IBS and I couldn't finish it. All right, no problem, I'll get
it tomorrow for Kevin. You are bringing the funny and bringing the BTV,
pizza, Danny Wikipedia and Dunkin Donuts. I'm Bill Moran. We'll see you tomorrow