1 00:00:03,839 --> 00:00:12,919 Welcome to Fantasy Hockey Life, presented by fan Tracks. Here's your source of 2 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:17,160 information and analysis to help you win your fantasy hockey league. Block Off has 3 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:23,800 a step hit on staylock. Here's your hosts, Jesse Severer and Victor Nuno 4 00:00:24,359 --> 00:00:29,199 Fantasy Hockey Live back once again talking the wonderful world of fantasy hockey. I'm 5 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:35,119 Jesse Severe fan Tracks. That next voice you will hear is Victor Nuno's of 6 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,880 ep Rinkside. Victor, how you doing. I'm doing great, Jesse. 7 00:00:40,119 --> 00:00:43,880 Yeah, it's a great time of year the I don't know about you, 8 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,600 but in most of my dynasty leagues, playoffs start this next week, so 9 00:00:47,719 --> 00:00:50,840 that's exciting. How about how you doing? And is that true for you? 10 00:00:51,439 --> 00:00:54,479 Yeah? It is. And did you know, Victor, that tomorrow 11 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:59,119 is a national holiday? Are you aware of that? I am aware of 12 00:00:59,119 --> 00:01:03,679 that. I didn't realize that in the sense of my playoff matchups starting on 13 00:01:03,719 --> 00:01:06,280 the holiday, but I was aware that it was the holidays. That just 14 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:10,000 gives you. That just gives me more time to stress about the matchups starting. 15 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,719 I don't know about you. Yeah, some people think that the day 16 00:01:12,799 --> 00:01:18,120 is President's Day, but in fact, you and I both know it's international. 17 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:22,680 Don't let Jesse set the playoff brackets in the dynasty League's stay. That's 18 00:01:22,719 --> 00:01:26,879 actually the real reason for the season, because I goof those things every single 19 00:01:27,079 --> 00:01:30,079 year, Victor. Now, the second round is worse than the first round. 20 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,840 That's the one that really chaos ensues. But we are involved with nine 21 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,879 leagues and hopefully the Admiral will take care of at least six of them. 22 00:01:38,079 --> 00:01:42,680 But it's going to be, yeah, biting my nails for the other I 23 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,439 think the brackets break your brain because it's not as simple. It's not as 24 00:01:46,439 --> 00:01:49,480 simple like top versus bottom. The way we set them up usually is the 25 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:55,799 especially the consolation brackets, is that the worst teams have the best chance. 26 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,439 So it's like the top teams go against each other and for some reason that 27 00:01:59,439 --> 00:02:04,560 it's difficult. Well, for it's the receding every round that gets me. 28 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,319 But yeah, also I put the buys in the wrong place. So anyway, 29 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,560 those are just my problems. You don't need to hear about my problems, 30 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,080 but if you wanted to, you could hear about other people's problems. 31 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,400 But more to the point, they're happy times over in our discord server, 32 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:21,919 Victor. We're coming up on four hundred people in that server. There's a 33 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,280 lot of people showing up there for free. It's a free server in the 34 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:30,319 discord where you can talk fantasy hockey any and all of the time. You 35 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,759 can be a patron. We'll talk about the Patreon soon, but you don't 36 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,800 have to be. And they're just a whole lot of people. And this 37 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,240 is going to be a spicy time of year because, yeah, our dynasty 38 00:02:39,319 --> 00:02:45,759 leagues that we create for Fantasy Hockey Life are firing into the playoffs now. 39 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:50,000 Some people think that's rather early to have playoffs start. Victor you and I 40 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,639 we differ that that should be a hot topic for people this week. Absolutely, 41 00:02:53,759 --> 00:02:58,919 I'm in a couple of leagues where this is not the case, and 42 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,159 I think we have five more matchups until playoffs and it goes until the very 43 00:03:02,199 --> 00:03:06,439 last week, and I'm just like, this is insanity. We've made our 44 00:03:06,479 --> 00:03:09,159 case on this, but it's totally crazy, I think personally, to have 45 00:03:09,199 --> 00:03:13,639 all this come down to a one week matchup where some you know, at 46 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,680 the end of the season, some teams are out of it. It just 47 00:03:15,719 --> 00:03:19,719 doesn't make sense. And then having the championship be a week where stars are 48 00:03:19,719 --> 00:03:23,319 being rested. It's lunacy. Yeah, I get it, it's a little 49 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:27,960 early to start February nineteenth, we're not even all the way into March, 50 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,280 but it just it makes for a more level playing field. It makes for 51 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:34,520 a more competitive environment, and I think in a lot of our leagues that's 52 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:38,000 an even matchup if you do it this way with all the teams in the 53 00:03:38,039 --> 00:03:40,599 league. So I also really that too. So it should be about fairness, 54 00:03:40,599 --> 00:03:44,800 and it should be about trying to get the best outcome where the best 55 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,919 teams have the best chance to win, and not just have some random variance 56 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,639 or luck play into it. As much as possible, there's always gonna be 57 00:03:51,719 --> 00:03:53,879 some of that, which makes it fun, but you don't want to be 58 00:03:53,879 --> 00:03:58,560 too chaotic, right, Yeah, And people who know me or no leagues 59 00:03:58,599 --> 00:04:02,599 that I've been involved a commissioner in no, there's nothing I love more than 60 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:09,919 having a balanced schedule where everybody plays every other team once. I mean, 61 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,000 heck, if the season is long enough, we could play other team twice. 62 00:04:13,039 --> 00:04:15,759 But the truth of the matter is the number of weeks of normal matchups 63 00:04:15,759 --> 00:04:20,519 are usually fairly similar to the number of teams in a league, and therefore 64 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:24,279 I love to make them balanced, even at the expense every once in a 65 00:04:24,319 --> 00:04:29,920 while of making a two week matchup. That confuses people because that's just how 66 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:34,240 it's got to go. But Victor, some people like me are selling at 67 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:39,160 this time of year, and to do the selling, I will tell people 68 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:45,199 that I do enjoy looking at your your prospect list to guide me and figure 69 00:04:45,199 --> 00:04:47,040 out who are the guys that I'm going to try to trade for in rebuilding 70 00:04:47,079 --> 00:04:54,040 situations. Others can look at your prospects and get access to other content from 71 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:59,120 us by joining the Patreon. Victor tell them how to get there. Yeah, 72 00:04:59,199 --> 00:05:01,519 you can go to patreon dot com slash Fantasy Hockey Life and yeah we 73 00:05:01,639 --> 00:05:05,480 just actually aside from you, Jesse, that was fun helping you with that. 74 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:10,920 But there was also someone who a desperate need of joining a new team 75 00:05:11,199 --> 00:05:15,240 and having all this chaos in terms of getting you know what happens when you 76 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,120 join a new league, especially at this stage, people are gonna throw trade 77 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,279 offers at you. Most of them are going to be terrible, but some 78 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:24,560 might be decent. So in a desperate need to not screw this up after 79 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,680 joining a new league, someone joined just recently and had all these questions which 80 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,600 is great. That's what we're here for, that's exactly and sometimes those people 81 00:05:31,639 --> 00:05:36,079 are in multiple discords, so you need more personalized advice too. So that's 82 00:05:36,079 --> 00:05:39,759 one thing you can get through the Patreon is one on one help. You 83 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,759 get access to the Patron Priority channel with a bunch of smart people that can 84 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,959 help you as well. The prospect rankless so you can see and you can 85 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:51,279 always ask if certain players are maybe up or down depending on which way they're 86 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:55,839 trending. So all that kind of stuff is available plus Patroon casts and other 87 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:00,360 great perks. Patreon dot com, slash Fantasy Hockey Life Jesse. Yeah, 88 00:06:00,399 --> 00:06:05,240 that's maybe sometime in the off season. I'll share the teardown that I decided 89 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:11,519 to do late in the season in the original Dynasty, because I've really flipped 90 00:06:11,519 --> 00:06:15,279 the switch from when now to future and Victor, you were a key part 91 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:19,160 in deciding on some of these trades because the obviously the market was starved for 92 00:06:20,079 --> 00:06:24,240 the buyers who really wanted to get stuff, and some of the buyers who 93 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:28,600 were contending for championship actually did have some pieces to deal, so it was 94 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:32,199 it was a fun situation. But anyway, Victor, yes, now we 95 00:06:32,519 --> 00:06:35,360 have to get to the content. We have to get to the meat of 96 00:06:35,399 --> 00:06:40,759 this episode we're going to be talking about. Listen after the breaking find out, 97 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:51,160 we welcome to the show a man who scouts both for Dabber prospects and 98 00:06:51,399 --> 00:06:56,600 for your hometown fantasy hockey life. It is Jim Icavone. Jim, how 99 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,639 you doing today? Doing great? Guys, Thanks for having me on. 100 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,279 How are you man? We're pleased to have you. We're pleased to get 101 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:10,000 some takes on some prospects, and today the basic just Jim does flyers prospects 102 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:15,000 for us primarily, but we're also going to focus on a couple of NCAA 103 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,839 teams that happened to not only feature some flyers prospects, but some other very 104 00:07:18,879 --> 00:07:26,839 prominent guys that Jim's been following. That is Boston College and Denver University. 105 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,240 So that's the gist of what we're going to be getting through today. Jim 106 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,199 is just a few guys that we've all had some interest in. How does 107 00:07:33,199 --> 00:07:38,439 that sound to you? That sounds great. I'm excited. He agreed before, 108 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,000 so I knew he was going to say yes to that victory. I 109 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,240 think you get a started year. Yeah, we're going to start out with 110 00:07:44,279 --> 00:07:48,480 some BC boys. They just play the bean pot and they've been following him 111 00:07:48,519 --> 00:07:53,040 along for a while. And the first guy is is a non flyers player. 112 00:07:53,079 --> 00:07:59,240 That's Emon Powell and he is a five to eleven, one hundred and 113 00:07:59,279 --> 00:08:03,959 seventy two pounds right handed d drafted by Tampa in twenty twenty fourth round pick. 114 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:07,319 He's the captain of the team right now, so some leadership there. 115 00:08:07,319 --> 00:08:11,279 It's always nice to see when guys are wearing a letter. He's twenty one 116 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:15,279 years old now and he's had an up and down production there at BC. 117 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,959 His first season was really strong with fourteen points in twenty four games, and 118 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:22,120 he dipped down to nine and thirty eight, and then he's kind of trended 119 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,160 back up and this in his senior season, twenty points in twenty eight games 120 00:08:24,279 --> 00:08:30,360 is pretty nice production for a defenseman, and looking at his hockey prospecting, 121 00:08:30,399 --> 00:08:35,159 it's not that exciting he has Basically he'd be statistical anomaly to be a star 122 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,000 at this point in that model, like one percent chance of being a star 123 00:08:37,639 --> 00:08:43,120 in Mason's NHL ranking app he's trending back up to like maybe a second pairing 124 00:08:43,159 --> 00:08:46,320 potential. And I have a ninth on my Dauber Prospects organizational rank, which 125 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:50,600 says to me a lot more about the depth in Tampa than it does about 126 00:08:50,639 --> 00:08:54,360 Powell. But depending on what you say, Jim, people might want to 127 00:08:54,399 --> 00:08:56,799 be a little excited about a depth role here. What do you think about 128 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:01,799 Eman Powell, and especially in that organization where there isn't a whole lot of 129 00:09:01,919 --> 00:09:07,279 other names to jump in front of him. Yeah, so even Powell was 130 00:09:07,399 --> 00:09:11,840 He's been a fun watch. I think you mentioned he's the captain and you 131 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:16,279 can definitely see in his play his leadership qualities. One thing I thought was 132 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:22,120 interesting is he plays on it. He quarterbacks the PP one for Boston College 133 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:26,919 on a power play with four first round picks, and he's the only one 134 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:30,759 that wasn't a first round pick. You mentioned fourth round pick of Tampa Bay 135 00:09:30,759 --> 00:09:33,600 in twenty twenty, picked in the fourth round. Now, he's a smart, 136 00:09:33,759 --> 00:09:37,960 steady, right handed defenseman. He looks a little smaller in stature. 137 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,600 He's listed five to eleven, one sixty five. You can definitely see the 138 00:09:41,639 --> 00:09:46,200 one sixty five, but I think maybe they juiced him up in the height 139 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:50,039 a little bit. He's fearless, he's, as I mentioned, small, 140 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:54,639 and stature, not afraid to engage in puck battles, plays in the gritty 141 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:58,720 areas, doesn't always win those battles, but doesn't shy away from them. 142 00:09:58,759 --> 00:10:03,759 Even still plays an aggressive defensive style, very agile, good edge work. 143 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:09,840 With the skating, I noticed he sometimes skates straight up, which makes him 144 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:15,080 appear slow. It just looks. It looks funny to me, but I 145 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,039 don't think. I don't think it'll have anything to do with good or bad. 146 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,679 With how he plays, participates in rushes, supports as a trailer, 147 00:10:22,039 --> 00:10:24,879 adds good depth to the team's attack. There is one thing that I really 148 00:10:24,879 --> 00:10:31,000 didn't like about him, and he sometimes forces what I call low percentage plays. 149 00:10:31,519 --> 00:10:33,679 And maybe that's because of the talent that he has around him and BC 150 00:10:33,919 --> 00:10:37,639 is such a good team that they can get away with doing that. But 151 00:10:37,759 --> 00:10:41,039 he's not going to be able to do that at the NHL level for Iman 152 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,440 Pale. But yeah, overall, he's a fun player to watch. He's 153 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:48,080 my kind of player where he gets into the gritty stuff. He's a smaller 154 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:52,600 guy and not afraid to play physical. But yeah, overall, fourth round 155 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:58,120 pick and maybe he's bottom pair D in Tampa Bay will see Yeah, definitely 156 00:10:58,159 --> 00:11:01,480 strikes me as a guy who in the l is probably not going to be 157 00:11:01,519 --> 00:11:05,519 running a power play but the best of what's there right now. But he 158 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:07,279 also seems like he can move the puck pretty well. Like you said, 159 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:13,360 maybe a bottom pairing. And certainly we've seen in Tampa guys come in like 160 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,919 Nick Perbicks and they have another guy now can't remember his name, but guys 161 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:18,919 that seem to come out of nowhere, and if as long as they can 162 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,200 handle some of the physicality and move the puck quickly, they can be relevant 163 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,720 and fantasy and Tampa still pretty good. So you think you could fit that 164 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:31,360 role after college, right, Yeah? I think so. He's he definitely 165 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:35,000 works, and I think as long as you're willing to work the way that 166 00:11:35,039 --> 00:11:37,720 he does, you always have a chance, especially if you don't have the 167 00:11:37,799 --> 00:11:41,879 skill you need to. He does have the skill, so don't get me 168 00:11:41,879 --> 00:11:45,120 wrong, But he's a fourth round pick. There are guys that were picked 169 00:11:45,279 --> 00:11:48,559 one and two and three rounds ahead of him that maybe have more skills, 170 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:54,159 So he's going to have to work to earn his spot on the roster next 171 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:58,720 up. I'm guessing that one of the reasons as a Flyer scout, you 172 00:11:58,759 --> 00:12:03,240 were watching Boston College was because of one Cutter Gotier, who was a right 173 00:12:03,279 --> 00:12:09,440 winger drafted twenty twenty three forty five points twenty seven games as a freshman in 174 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:13,679 the NCAA ten points in seven games, rocking the World Juniors this year. 175 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:18,519 But of course, the great drama of Cutter Gotier ended up heading out west 176 00:12:18,639 --> 00:12:22,639 to the Anaheim Ducks, and it really has been blowing up once again this 177 00:12:22,759 --> 00:12:28,039 year for this dominant BC team. What have you seen about Cutter Gotier and 178 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:33,120 how much of a grudge do you hold against him for going west? Man 179 00:12:33,639 --> 00:12:37,519 A lot's changed since we last talked about Cutter Gotier. Huh, Victor, 180 00:12:37,639 --> 00:12:43,080 I think we talked about Gotier back in November, and I just during the 181 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,720 show we talked about he had eleven goals seventeen points in thirteen games, and 182 00:12:46,799 --> 00:12:50,799 he now has twenty five goals forty two points twenty eight games. And I 183 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:56,039 wanted to see because I've noticed he's been scoring a lot since January ninth, 184 00:12:56,039 --> 00:13:01,879 the day the Flyers traded him to Anaheim, and since being traded, he's 185 00:13:01,879 --> 00:13:05,480 played in fifteen games, he scored fourteen goals and has twenty five points. 186 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:09,679 He looks. It's going to sound weird because he had eleven goals seventeen points 187 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:13,360 into thirteen games, but he looks like he has extra motivation. Or maybe 188 00:13:13,399 --> 00:13:18,080 he wasn't playing to his fullest potential before the trade. Maybe he was pissed 189 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:22,600 off. On the show, we talked about how we were surprised that he 190 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:26,840 was playing the second year with BC, and it's come out that maybe there 191 00:13:26,879 --> 00:13:31,759 was some disagreement on what the plans were for Gotier for this season. It 192 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,200 sounded like he wanted to play with the Flyers this year. He was promised 193 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:39,000 that he would be with the Flyers this year, and as we know Danny 194 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,480 Brier and Keith Jones, this is their first year with their positions with the 195 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:46,080 Flyers. It sounded like they had a conversation with him and it said, 196 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,840 hey, you're going to have to earn your spot. You may not play 197 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:54,360 with the Flyers right out of the gate. Maybe there's some hl time. 198 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:58,200 I don't think Gota liked that. If you think about it, your seventeen 199 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:03,399 eighteen year old kid promised one thing. All of a sudden things change, 200 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,960 and maybe that upsets you a little bit. So he didn't really look like 201 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:11,240 himself early in the year, even though he was over a point per game 202 00:14:11,279 --> 00:14:16,080 player. After the trade, he looks like the old cutter Gotier I guess, 203 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:20,399 the one that was scoring nine points in the men's tournament for you Team 204 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:24,200 USA. Over the summer, he's been an animal. He's a goal scoring 205 00:14:24,279 --> 00:14:28,759 machine, the best shot in the NCAA. It's almost a shame that he 206 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,960 was traded because when I watch him now, I'm like, this is the 207 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:37,320 guy that everyone was so excited for. Because for a while there, I'm 208 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:43,559 watching Gotia and he's making maybe uncharacteristic mistakes, careless mistakes, really lacks a 209 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,759 daisical plays, and I'm watching and I'm like, this is not gonna fly 210 00:14:48,799 --> 00:14:52,240 under TWITTERRELLI He's going to chew him up and spit him out. But since 211 00:14:52,279 --> 00:14:56,759 the trade, it's like he's re energized, remotivated. Maybe he's excited again, 212 00:14:56,799 --> 00:15:01,120 I'm not sure, but he's absolutely carrying. Be you right now. 213 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:05,480 I think he's got twenty twenty eight goals. Now look the sup real quick 214 00:15:05,519 --> 00:15:11,200 twenty five goals in twenty eight games for BBC. Yeah, he's pretty awesome. 215 00:15:11,919 --> 00:15:15,600 Yoh. Yeah, it's a shame that he's not with the Flyers organization. 216 00:15:15,679 --> 00:15:18,919 And Jamie Drysdale is a hell of a player. But Cutter got Man, 217 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:22,679 when you watch him shoot, it's it's something else. And to think 218 00:15:22,679 --> 00:15:26,600 that he's only twenty years old with all that potential, we'll be doing it 219 00:15:26,639 --> 00:15:30,679 out in Anaheim. Yeah for sure. Yeah, he's definitely an exciting player. 220 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,440 And yeah, that BC team must be so much fun to watch on 221 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:37,039 a daily basis. I still can't believe they didn't win or didn't do better 222 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:41,320 in the Bean Pop. They're focused on the Frozen four and national championship. 223 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,559 All right, let's we've spent a lot of time talking about Gotier, so 224 00:15:43,639 --> 00:15:48,000 I want to talk about some more depth guys. And this is another one. 225 00:15:48,159 --> 00:15:52,200 Oscar Yelvick j E. L v Ik for those of you scoring at 226 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:56,320 home and oscars with a K. He's a five to eleven left wing, 227 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:58,720 one hundred and eighty one pounds. He was drafted by the Boston Bruins and 228 00:15:58,759 --> 00:16:03,080 the SO Again another late pick here, and this was in twenty twenty one 229 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:07,759 he was drafted. He's now twenty one years old and he was this is 230 00:16:07,759 --> 00:16:11,879 the second season with Boston College. He was over in Sweden before that. 231 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:17,639 Really tearing up the j twenty and this season so far he looks pretty hard 232 00:16:17,679 --> 00:16:21,879 good thirty points in twenty eight games for BC. Of course, we know 233 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,240 they score a lot, but a lot of it comes from those other high 234 00:16:25,279 --> 00:16:27,759 pedigree guys, So you're gonna tell us if he's just writing cottails of what 235 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:33,120 he's doing there. But looking at the Hockey Prospecting model, Yelvick looks like 236 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:37,559 he currently is listed as zero per chance of being a star, which is 237 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:42,440 pretty harsh. But there's some of his compster guys like Dennis mulgan. If 238 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:47,360 you guys remember that name, Noah Cats is someone who's still in the league. 239 00:16:47,399 --> 00:16:51,720 So these bottom are the roster replacement level type guys, but sometimes they 240 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,960 can have values, especially in deep leagues. And with Mason's app he's got 241 00:16:55,960 --> 00:17:00,679 a PNH ly of fifty fifty two it looks like, so he's a bit 242 00:17:00,759 --> 00:17:03,559 on the rise. In that model. He looks a little bit like Alex 243 00:17:03,679 --> 00:17:08,519 Kerfoot types, so he's six on my Dabber Prospects organizational rank like Powell, 244 00:17:08,799 --> 00:17:11,519 has more to do with the depth in the Boston system, which I would 245 00:17:11,599 --> 00:17:15,839 argue is even worse than the tempe of system. And you know you're gonna 246 00:17:15,839 --> 00:17:18,200 tell us, James, what do you think of Oscar Yelvick. Could he 247 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:22,400 be a nice depth at it and maybe he has some skill to rise. 248 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:26,000 Yeah, so you mentioned a guy like Alex Kerfoot and Oscar Yelvick. When 249 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:32,160 I watch him, he does have offensive potential, but yeah, he would 250 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:37,759 be primarily looked at as a third line, fourth line type guy possesses He's 251 00:17:37,799 --> 00:17:41,839 got a good physical stature. He's listed five ten one eight one, but 252 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:45,319 he looks like so. Something that I say a lot is some of these 253 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,680 young kids need to grow into their man body, right because they might have 254 00:17:48,759 --> 00:17:51,720 the skill and this and that, but when they get to the NHL, 255 00:17:51,759 --> 00:17:56,559 they're playing against grown men who are fully built. So he's got good vision, 256 00:17:56,319 --> 00:18:02,200 good passing skills, contributing to offensive setup. He plays well with Gotier, 257 00:18:02,599 --> 00:18:06,720 is what I noticed. Maybe they've developed some chemistry, but it's like 258 00:18:06,759 --> 00:18:08,039 he knows where Gotier is going to be on the ice and it's not that 259 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:12,039 hard because Gotier usually goes to the scoring areas. But there was one play, 260 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:18,119 for example, Yelvick rushed in to retrieve the puck behind goal and almost 261 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:22,440 blindly threw it to a spot, but Gotier was right there ready to receive 262 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:26,240 the pass. Good passing, good vision, good hockey IQ, high level 263 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:30,160 hockey IQ. Make smart decisions with and without the puck. Not afraid to 264 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:36,279 engage physically either, which from for a third or fourth line guy is what 265 00:18:36,319 --> 00:18:38,680 you want to see. Good work along the boards, not afraid to get 266 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:44,079 to the front of the net, can win puck battles. Pretty good rounded 267 00:18:44,279 --> 00:18:48,880 playing style mentioned his work ethic. Strong work ethic, is consistent with effort. 268 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:52,240 He's got a motor on him, and pretty much everything you want in 269 00:18:52,319 --> 00:18:56,960 a bottom six player. You want a guy that's willing to work, willing 270 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:00,680 to do the gritty things, but also possessed the ability to put the puck 271 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,880 in the net or help his teammates put the puck in the net. And 272 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:07,680 now we get to the Holy Trinity, the three guys who came from the 273 00:19:07,799 --> 00:19:15,240 US national development team to BC. They're rocketed out the first of the three. 274 00:19:15,279 --> 00:19:17,079 Of course, it's got to be the first of three, even though 275 00:19:17,079 --> 00:19:21,519 he's the middle of the three. Drafted Ryan Leonard of the Washington Capitals or 276 00:19:21,599 --> 00:19:25,119 soon to be drafted date overall thirty six points and twenty seven games, as 277 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:29,039 a freshman, he scored six points and seven games at the World Juniors. 278 00:19:29,039 --> 00:19:33,240 His reputation is kalate a big hitter. But why don't you tell me. 279 00:19:33,599 --> 00:19:38,240 One of the mysteries that we've got to untie here is what are these guys 280 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,519 when they split up? And they aren't altogether? But what do you think 281 00:19:41,559 --> 00:19:47,480 about Ryan Leonard and his potential future? Yeah, I see a potential star 282 00:19:47,519 --> 00:19:52,519 in the NHL. I'm not sure if he'll be a macachuck, but he 283 00:19:52,559 --> 00:19:56,279 has the potential to be that, and it's certainly how he plays now and 284 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:00,400 at the college level he's played like that for the US national development team. 285 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:06,119 I see potential future captain of an NHL team. Thirty eight points in twenty 286 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,599 eight games as a freshman, eighteen goals, twenty assists. He does it 287 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:15,200 all. He's got the motor. So there are some guys who are potential 288 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:19,319 stars, and they have the talent and the skill, and they might lack 289 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:26,000 the work ethic, whereas Ryan Leonard has the skill and the potential, but 290 00:20:26,079 --> 00:20:30,000 he has that the third and fourth line work ethic as well, which is 291 00:20:30,039 --> 00:20:33,599 I think what makes him so dangerous, because sure he can set guys up. 292 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:37,039 He can finish plays, he can check and do all this, but 293 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:41,960 he just he's got a motor and I think that makes him extremely dangerous. 294 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:47,559 Obviously, projects top six NHL player, probably top line more than more likely 295 00:20:47,599 --> 00:20:49,960 than not. But yeah, this is a guy that the Capitol should be 296 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:55,319 very excited about. He's got an NHL ready frame. He's listed six foot 297 00:20:55,319 --> 00:21:02,039 one ninety two. It'll be interesting to see if the Capitals elect to sign 298 00:21:02,079 --> 00:21:04,599 him after the season or if he goes back to BC for another year. 299 00:21:06,079 --> 00:21:08,079 We'll see. But I can't wait to watch this guy in the NHL. 300 00:21:10,039 --> 00:21:12,359 I can't wait to watch all three of these guys away from each other because 301 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:17,160 they have been playing together for so long. It's going to be interesting. 302 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:18,480 Ryan Leonard is the one. I think I've said this before far, I 303 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:22,759 have the least concern about playing away from the other two. I think you 304 00:21:22,839 --> 00:21:26,759 agreed with me on that. The next guy we're going to talk about, 305 00:21:26,799 --> 00:21:32,039 though, Gay Perro, and he's I think the most interesting of the three. 306 00:21:32,079 --> 00:21:34,240 Maybe there were more questions. He was drafted the latest. He was 307 00:21:34,319 --> 00:21:37,440 drafted twenty third overall by the New York Rangers. He's a five to eleven, 308 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:41,960 one hundred and sixty five pounds winger, and he was really good at 309 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:48,039 the World Junior Championships for US. He had seven points in sorry ten points 310 00:21:48,039 --> 00:21:53,319 in seven games, and there were questions about whether his lack of foot speed 311 00:21:53,599 --> 00:21:56,640 and his intelligence would transfer to the NCAA. I don't think there are any 312 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:00,720 questions about that anymore. Forty six points in twenty eight games. He has 313 00:22:00,799 --> 00:22:06,559 been sane for his production, so far, so good. His hockey prospecting, 314 00:22:06,799 --> 00:22:10,960 he's got a bunch of weird comps. Some of them are like Pavel 315 00:22:11,039 --> 00:22:15,400 Burrey and Yarma Yager, and then there's Sam Gangne and Bob Brann like some 316 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:21,240 other busts. So it's definitely not a bus proof projection. His pnhle has 317 00:22:21,319 --> 00:22:25,359 him looking like an absolute superstar over one hundred points. But I also pulled 318 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:30,319 up Chase McCollums graph and he has some more modest projections. I would say 319 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,799 a lot of interesting ones like Alex Nielander and Sonny Milano who would be not 320 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:38,000 so good outcomes. Also Joshua Sang, But then I think one of the 321 00:22:38,079 --> 00:22:44,559 more similar is Nick Eelers. He could be that type of productive NHL R. 322 00:22:44,599 --> 00:22:49,160 And it's really funny that a lot of his similarity comps are guys that 323 00:22:49,279 --> 00:22:52,720 are haven't quite made it yet in this model. But then you go down 324 00:22:52,759 --> 00:22:56,960 to the logan Cooley and maybe there's some rhymes there, although they're not the 325 00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:00,200 same type of player Seth Jarvis, Mikhail Bodker, Nick Eelers. So anyways, 326 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,799 there's some interesting things. And I also wanted to pull up best points 327 00:23:03,839 --> 00:23:07,440 per game in the NCAA by an eighteen year old, and some of these 328 00:23:07,519 --> 00:23:11,000 go back to the seventies, but he's currently twenty third on that list, 329 00:23:11,599 --> 00:23:14,960 which is pretty crazy. This is points per game, but if you just 330 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,240 go back the past twenty years, gay Pro has the third best mark of 331 00:23:18,279 --> 00:23:21,440 points per game in the NCAA. That's insane for an eighteen year old. 332 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,559 So yeah, he's pretty good, James, But tell us a little bit 333 00:23:23,599 --> 00:23:26,079 more about what you think about gay Pro and how's progress through the season, 334 00:23:26,079 --> 00:23:30,160 because I know you've watched him throughout the year. I've had the most fun 335 00:23:30,559 --> 00:23:37,400 watching gay Proro progress than probably any other player in the NCAA this year. 336 00:23:37,039 --> 00:23:42,839 He's I think doesn't receive enough credit because you see guys like Ryan Lanyard, 337 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,759 Will Smith where they went in the draft last year, they're the big names. 338 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,839 Gay Proro I think is the steal of the draft for last season, 339 00:23:52,079 --> 00:23:53,839 at least to steal the first round, the Rangers getting him at the twenty 340 00:23:53,839 --> 00:23:57,680 third overall pick. I see a star. You brought up a lot of 341 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:02,839 models there. There were a lot of different names. But so one thing 342 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:07,319 I look for is positive progression throughout a season, and he's doing that and 343 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,079 then some he's listed five to eleven, one sixty five. There's no way 344 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:18,319 he's He looks bigger than that. He and the skating no issue. He's 345 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,839 the guy that's He's the straw that stirs the drink on that line. But 346 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,680 he you're right when we talk about these guys doing it on their own, 347 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:32,319 it will be interesting to see, but he is. He seems like he 348 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:36,720 can be the guy on a line where the play will will work through him. 349 00:24:36,839 --> 00:24:40,480 He's It sounds like maybe a negative thing to say that he's the guy 350 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,880 that connects, he's the connector, but it's not. You need those guys, 351 00:24:44,039 --> 00:24:45,880 you know, as long as you have guys that can put the puck 352 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,440 in the net, you need a gay Proro. I covered the Flyers could 353 00:24:48,559 --> 00:24:52,240 use a gay Proro. They have a lot of guys that can put the 354 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,039 puck in the net, and not necessarily a lot of distributors that will look 355 00:24:56,079 --> 00:25:00,960 for guys in shoot first position or scoring positions. Gay Per is that guy. 356 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,440 He's a lot of fun to watch. Unfortunately he plays for the Rangers, 357 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,640 but I'm excited to watch him do this in the NHL. It's a 358 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,039 lot of fun to watch. Not going to stay under the radar long. 359 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:15,079 If he's literally the highest scoring player in the NCAA, that's probably going to 360 00:25:15,079 --> 00:25:19,319 get him a little prominent forty six points in the lead by two a game 361 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:26,039 perrole. Do not forget the name. A name that everybody can easily forget 362 00:25:26,279 --> 00:25:30,759 but shouldn't is Will Smith of the San Jose Sharks. He was the first 363 00:25:30,759 --> 00:25:33,519 one of the big three here taken and he's got forty one points to show 364 00:25:33,559 --> 00:25:37,000 for it in his first twenty seven games as a freshman in the NCAA. 365 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:44,559 Nine points in those seven World Juniors games, and is come down a little 366 00:25:44,559 --> 00:25:49,599 bit from the estimations that some had for him last year. Maybe some might 367 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,839 take these guys in a different order, but you've been watching Will Smith closely. 368 00:25:55,039 --> 00:26:00,720 What is your take on where this guy's at? Obviously, Will Smith 369 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:07,359 is the unfortunately because it sounds like a knock, he's the least fun for 370 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:11,559 me to watch, but he is getting the job done. Forty two points 371 00:26:11,599 --> 00:26:15,480 in twenty eight games, sixteen goals, twenty six assists. You have a 372 00:26:15,519 --> 00:26:19,400 guy like Ryan Leonard who literally does everything on the line, a guy like 373 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,839 Gapro who's just fun to watch progressing, and Will Smith, who he just 374 00:26:25,079 --> 00:26:29,640 I guess he just does what he's supposed to do. He's not as flashy, 375 00:26:29,799 --> 00:26:33,480 not as fun to watch for someone like me, but he gets it 376 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,799 done. He was picked fourth overall for a reason by the Sharks. He's 377 00:26:36,839 --> 00:26:40,839 a guy I think will need to see develop more in the NCAAA. I 378 00:26:40,839 --> 00:26:44,039 wouldn't be surprised to see him back there next year. I think he might 379 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:49,079 need it, and yeah, he's probably going to be I don't want it. 380 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,000 I don't want to say medal six on the show, but yeah, 381 00:26:52,079 --> 00:26:56,640 we'll see With Will Smith, he's a guy that I'm not as excited as 382 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:02,759 the other two. We'll just say that bear enough. Let's take a brief 383 00:27:02,759 --> 00:27:07,000 break that is covered the BC. They were good. I watched that consolation 384 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,960 game with them from the bean pot and they were getting it done, but 385 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:22,000 we have another exciting team to talk about after the break. Gonna selfish shocking, 386 00:27:22,039 --> 00:27:26,960 that's right, selfish, break it down. Skate the fuck, don't 387 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,160 got head. It's still gonna be there. When he got up one, 388 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,119 taking coast to coast, dropping four angles, you're still shot. Bad balance, 389 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:38,599 that's a good breakaway. Gotta get the bounced boys. Yeah. So 390 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,680 now we're gonna move on to Denver University and there are a couple of really 391 00:27:42,839 --> 00:27:47,920 interesting players here to talk about, and we're gonna start with Sean Barns. 392 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,359 Barns is a five to ten, one hundred and seventy six pounds left handed 393 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,319 d He's a color out of Avalanche draft pick twenty to twenty one, second 394 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,400 round pick sixty first overall, kind of really late in the second round. 395 00:28:00,079 --> 00:28:03,559 He's now twenty, he'll be twenty one in about a month and a half 396 00:28:03,599 --> 00:28:08,279 here, and he's doing really well. He's got twenty points twenty three points 397 00:28:08,279 --> 00:28:14,759 in thirty NCAA games. He had similar production last year and also had really 398 00:28:14,799 --> 00:28:18,240 good production in his first season at Denver. Denver's been really good for a 399 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:19,880 long time though. That's something to keep in mind. Though they are a 400 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:26,599 really strong team, and Barons is definitely a bit undersized for an American defenseman 401 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:27,839 and he plays in college. But you know what that means, We have 402 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:33,119 a Tory Kruge coming, because that's who we have to compare everyone to by 403 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,359 contractual obligation. But Barons, in the Hockey Prospecting model, he looks like 404 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,519 a sixteen to twenty five percent chance of being a star kind of guy and 405 00:28:41,559 --> 00:28:45,079 a seventy five percent chance of being an NHL R. So most of his 406 00:28:45,559 --> 00:28:48,880 generated comps in that model don't look great. One of his main ones is 407 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:53,799 Joe Morrow, who didn't really work out, another Boston draft pick for Krug 408 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:59,880 though he definitely looked a little bit better, and his last couple seasons were 409 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,000 really strong. But if you look at the straight up equivalency for the most 410 00:29:03,039 --> 00:29:07,359 part, Barons is pretty similar in terms of his straight NHL in his three 411 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,440 NCAA seasons, and his PNHIL model has him looking like a little bit better 412 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,240 than a second liner, somewhere between a first and second liner and about a 413 00:29:15,279 --> 00:29:19,480 fifty PNHIL. So that's pretty strong, especially for Colorado that has a really 414 00:29:19,519 --> 00:29:22,960 strong team but not the best prospect pool. So James. What do you 415 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,559 think of Barons and do you think he could step into an NHL role relatively 416 00:29:26,599 --> 00:29:32,839 quickly since he's basically going to be done with college after the season. That's 417 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:37,079 a good question. When I watch him, I see a top four defenseman, 418 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,079 more likely a second line, second pairing guy. He's played a lot 419 00:29:41,079 --> 00:29:47,279 with zeev Bouiam this year, who's his draft stock is skyrocketed throughout the year. 420 00:29:47,319 --> 00:29:51,359 I've seen him as far as top three, top five in the Summer's 421 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,960 draft projected pick. What I notice about him is he's got a lot of 422 00:29:56,039 --> 00:30:00,960 intangibles I have here. He's a solid, steady defenseman, good skater, 423 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:06,319 good edgework, his IQ vision very smart, He's got an extremely high IQ 424 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:14,400 and he allows Buoyam to play his game. And I think that's an extremely 425 00:30:14,599 --> 00:30:18,119 underrated asset to have, especially for a young kid at twenty years old, 426 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:23,799 to be able to have the ability to this kid, zeb Bulliam's a freshman 427 00:30:25,559 --> 00:30:30,599 two years younger than Sean Barns, and he's able to put his ego aside 428 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,079 and say, Okay, I'm going to play this way to allow my teammate 429 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,799 to play this way. So I think that's a very underrated asset to have. 430 00:30:37,079 --> 00:30:41,680 He's not a selfish player, reads ice very well, always in control. 431 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,000 It's willing to block shots. The last game that I watched he blocked 432 00:30:45,039 --> 00:30:48,720 three shots in one shift on a power play. So willing to do the 433 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:53,920 dirty stuff to win games. His best asset plays. He plays a good 434 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,720 defensive role, and maybe I have here he allows his partner to play his 435 00:30:57,799 --> 00:31:03,680 game. So yeah, I see a projected top four defenseman. He's just 436 00:31:03,759 --> 00:31:07,759 a solid all around player. I don't have anything negative to say about Sean 437 00:31:07,799 --> 00:31:15,920 Barns flipping to defenceman Shi William already. You've heard us talk about Zev already 438 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:21,200 and not Shay Shay. But he was a Detroit Red Wings pick a couple 439 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,599 of years ago. He's already looking like he may be a bit overshadowed. 440 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:29,359 He's a big fella. He's six' three and was drafted in the second 441 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:30,759 round. Once again. The Red Wings have been in a tear of drafted 442 00:31:30,799 --> 00:31:36,440 defenseman in the last few years. He doesn't hit a whole lot in college. 443 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,359 That's interesting, well, under one per game and less than his brother. 444 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,960 Scores less than his brother too, who's of course many years younger, 445 00:31:44,519 --> 00:31:48,160 So twenty five points in twenty seven games is still pretty darn good as a 446 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,319 junior. And by the way, I wanted to mention before we get too 447 00:31:52,319 --> 00:31:56,519 far with these Denver guys. Remember Denver won a national title and they won 448 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,799 it with all the guys we're going to talk about today Denver. They were 449 00:32:00,839 --> 00:32:04,680 all freshmen on the team that won the national championship. They all played, 450 00:32:05,279 --> 00:32:09,039 and the announcers announced on the broadcast I was listening to that the reason they 451 00:32:09,039 --> 00:32:13,039 got eliminated as early as they did last year is everybody got sick at the 452 00:32:13,079 --> 00:32:15,920 same time. So this is a dynasty that might have even been more. 453 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:22,000 But anyway, back to William and whether he is going to be elite, 454 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:27,279 even though it seems like he might not be the best pioneer defenseman from his 455 00:32:27,319 --> 00:32:31,079 own family. Yeah. So Shai Buyam is drafted in twenty twenty one by 456 00:32:31,119 --> 00:32:35,200 the Detroit Red Wings. They was the thirty sixth overall pick in the second 457 00:32:35,279 --> 00:32:38,000 round. He mentions big boy six y three, two hundred and nine pounds, 458 00:32:38,039 --> 00:32:42,839 twenty years old. The first thing that jumps off the page when I 459 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,799 watched Shai Bulliam is this kid is smart. He's a very intelligent hockey player, 460 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:52,920 extremely patient, but patient with a purpose, if that makes sense. 461 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:57,440 Obviously is Ziv's older brother, and maybe he rubbed off on Zev a little 462 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,240 bit. Who knows, but his passing is excellent. Pass are extremely patient 463 00:33:00,279 --> 00:33:04,359 and precise. He knows what he's going to do, but he's waiting for 464 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:09,079 it to open up. So he almost manipulates the opposition with his patients, 465 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:15,079 which is really fun to watch watching it. If you're watching it just watching 466 00:33:15,079 --> 00:33:16,640 a regular game, you might not realize it, but if you go back 467 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,920 and watch him, he knows what he's doing. He's just waiting for it 468 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,640 to happen. So that was something that really impressed me. He's got a 469 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:28,440 shot. He can snipe the puck. If you give him time and space, 470 00:33:28,519 --> 00:33:30,640 that puck will end up in the back of the net. It can 471 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,759 get the goal from the point. He'll find areas to put himself into shooting 472 00:33:34,799 --> 00:33:37,240 ability. And it's funny because on some of the goals that I've watched, 473 00:33:37,279 --> 00:33:39,920 his brother was the one setting him up. So that was cool to see. 474 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:45,079 I mentioned very smart, patient, reads the ice extremely well. Detroit 475 00:33:45,119 --> 00:33:49,920 I think has another good defenseman coming up, but in the ranks, and 476 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,119 I wouldn't be surprised if this is a low end second pair guy or a 477 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:59,839 high end third pair guy in Shaibu. I'm excited to see how he does 478 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,880 the professional level. He does have the tools, and I wouldn't be surprised 479 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,279 if he sticks around on the second pair. To tell you the truth, 480 00:34:07,279 --> 00:34:10,760 Yeah, for sure, unequivocally not the best Billiam, though I would say 481 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:15,320 now we've talked a lot about Zeven, we'll talk more about him, and 482 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:19,559 not on this show, but another shows. Let's move on to the next 483 00:34:19,599 --> 00:34:24,320 guy, and that is Jack Divine and he is five to eleven ry wing. 484 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:28,199 He's one hundred and eighty one pounds. He was a seventh round pick 485 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,000 by Florida, and we could just stop here and say they knock this one 486 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:36,360 out of the park, because regardless of what happens with Jack, he has 487 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,000 really risen in the ranks from a seventh round pick, a little bit undersized, 488 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,559 and part of the issue with him, or I guess part of the 489 00:34:43,599 --> 00:34:46,639 concern maybe is that he's in October second birthday, so he's literally two and 490 00:34:46,679 --> 00:34:51,400 a half weeks away from being eligible for the following draft, so he's really 491 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,119 old for his draft class. So he had a pretty strong season at University 492 00:34:54,159 --> 00:34:58,239 of Denver, but again playing a little bit down the lineup, even though 493 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,719 he scored a fair amount. Probably a little hard to evaluate him. But 494 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:05,199 so far this season as a junior, he has forty four points in thirty 495 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,320 games, insane. He already has twelve more points this season than he did 496 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:14,000 last season when he played thirty eight games, so that's incredible. He's tied 497 00:35:14,039 --> 00:35:16,199 for fourth in NCAA and goals, tied for second in points. I actually 498 00:35:16,199 --> 00:35:21,920 did an EP rings side article on him, and not to spoil it, 499 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,599 but I frankly think that the next guy you're going to talk about is a 500 00:35:23,599 --> 00:35:28,360 big reason for Divine success. So we'll tease out a little bit. But 501 00:35:28,519 --> 00:35:30,400 I do think that he's found a scoring touch. When you look at the 502 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:36,239 Hockey prospecting model isn't too excited about him, although his NHLO probability has risen 503 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,119 up to sixty one percent, but the star potential remains low. The PNHL 504 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:45,159 for Jack Divine and Mason's model looks like about eighty point per game player, 505 00:35:45,199 --> 00:35:46,679 so I don't think he's going to hit that, but he has some interesting 506 00:35:46,679 --> 00:35:50,519 comps. Guys like Neils Hoglander. I think that's the guy who he could 507 00:35:50,599 --> 00:35:53,039 end up looking a little bit like more of a depth scorer. Sean Manahan 508 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,840 Monahan and Matthew Bniers are two other names. I don't know that he'll reach 509 00:35:58,159 --> 00:36:04,119 those heights. And then looking at some of his other comps in Chase McCollum's 510 00:36:04,199 --> 00:36:06,280 model, there's a whole lot of names here. A lot of them are 511 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,039 bus unfortunately. But then there's some other guys that we're waiting for data on, 512 00:36:10,559 --> 00:36:14,719 and maybe we'll see the other Jack h Ugheses, one of them not 513 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:19,239 the superstar for the Devils, but the one for the Kings. Maki Samiskevitch 514 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,079 is another Florida prospects. So not a lot of guys in Chase's model have 515 00:36:22,159 --> 00:36:27,159 actually made it. None of them actually have made it to be regular NHLer. 516 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,519 So that is a bit of a tough hill to climb for Jack Devine. 517 00:36:30,519 --> 00:36:34,159 But James, tell us what you think about him. I actually really 518 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,800 enjoy watching him play. The number one thing I noticed about him, and 519 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,119 I have it written down in big letters here he's got a motor on him, 520 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:44,440 which I think for a seventh round pick. We talked about it with 521 00:36:44,599 --> 00:36:47,400 one of the other prospects I think it was emon Pal. You need to 522 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:52,039 have the work ethic and he's got that. But he's got a lot more 523 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,400 than just a motor. Not the most skilled, but he's a smart player. 524 00:36:55,679 --> 00:36:59,800 He goes to the goal scoring areas, puts himself in a good position 525 00:37:00,199 --> 00:37:04,480 to score, goes to the dirty areas around the goal. He's always around 526 00:37:04,519 --> 00:37:07,880 the net. He's got a pretty good shot, a good release. What 527 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,719 stands out to most to me, the most to me is his desire to 528 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:16,119 work. And you combine said it before, you combine work ethic with skill, 529 00:37:16,199 --> 00:37:19,719 and all of a sudden you have a pretty good player on your hands 530 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,679 there. And I mentioned always around the goal. He can dish the puck 531 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,800 too. A lot of players, especially ones that can score goals, you 532 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:30,719 think of them around goal. They're probably a goal scorer. But he also 533 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,599 looks to pass and set up teammates around goal, which makes him dangerous because 534 00:37:34,599 --> 00:37:37,280 you don't know what to expect as a defender. Is you're going to pass, 535 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:38,920 is he going to shoot? So he's very good in that sense, 536 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:44,199 a round goal, above average to good skater. He protects the puck when 537 00:37:44,199 --> 00:37:47,119 he's got possession of it, and yeah, it looks like Florida might have 538 00:37:47,199 --> 00:37:52,119 something on their hands here. I don't know about top six player, but 539 00:37:52,199 --> 00:37:57,239 definitely a guy they can see if he can fit in their lineup somewhere. 540 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,559 Maybe a third line guy with scoring touch or fourth line guy. But Jack 541 00:38:00,599 --> 00:38:04,559 Devine is a good player, a lot of fun to watch. As long 542 00:38:04,599 --> 00:38:08,000 as he has that work ethic, he should find his way into Florida's lineup 543 00:38:08,039 --> 00:38:12,840 at some point. All right, the next one, I want to put 544 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,079 everybody in the way back machine first, and we're going to go back to 545 00:38:16,199 --> 00:38:20,719 the summer of twenty twenty three. And if you remember, one of the 546 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,159 dramatic events at that time was the Flyers were trying to find a happy new 547 00:38:24,159 --> 00:38:30,199 home for Tony DiAngelo. They kept trying to trade him to the Carolina Hurricanes. 548 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:34,360 There were technicalities that meant that they couldn't do it. They were supposed 549 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,159 to trade him for a certain prospect that the Flyers had. The trade fell 550 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:45,960 through, and yet somehow the Carolina Hurricanes still insisted on sending that prospect with 551 00:38:45,119 --> 00:38:52,519 a fifth round pick to the Philadelphia too. I'm sorry. The Flyars acquired 552 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:59,119 this player and a fifth round pick in return for the Flyers sending the Hurricanes, 553 00:38:59,639 --> 00:39:04,119 a broke twenty seven year old veteran who's been putts it around in the 554 00:39:04,159 --> 00:39:08,320 Czech League for three years and once upon a time Andre Kasha's brother David, 555 00:39:08,599 --> 00:39:14,159 who is this prospect of whom I speak His name is Massimo Rizzo and he 556 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:19,079 is a climax of what we're talking about today. A five to eleventh center, 557 00:39:19,159 --> 00:39:23,239 twenty nineteen to seventh rounder, and Massimo Rizzo hasn't done much this year. 558 00:39:23,519 --> 00:39:30,440 He's only the second leading scorer in the NCAA and leading the NCAA assists. 559 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:36,960 Now listen to this one we're recording on February eighteenth. Massimo Rizzo has 560 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:43,119 been out of action with a lower body injury since February third. He's leading 561 00:39:43,159 --> 00:39:46,519 the NCAA in assists and he hasn't played in over two weeks of the regular 562 00:39:46,559 --> 00:39:52,920 season. At this point, he is absolutely killing it for this Denver team. 563 00:39:52,119 --> 00:39:58,760 Definitely is tied with Divine, who we just spoke about as the lead 564 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:04,639 on the team of points. Masimal Rizzo has risen from obscurity seventh rounder to 565 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:10,079 a guy who the Hurricanes had to bribe adding the fifth rounder to him just 566 00:40:10,119 --> 00:40:15,159 to get the Flyers to take him for a broken twenty seven year old player 567 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:19,719 from the Czech league, and now he's absolutely killing it. I'm gushing. 568 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,280 I don't understand what's going on. Please Jim explain this to me. Massimo 569 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:28,400 Rizzo, Yeah, so this was a guy who when the Flyers made that 570 00:40:28,519 --> 00:40:31,440 trade, my first thought was, Okay, this could be a diamond in 571 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:37,840 the rough type guy if everything goes right, And so far this season it's 572 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,320 looking like that could be a diamond in the rough player. Maybe it's found 573 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:46,039 money with Massimo Rizzo. Flyers need center depth in the organization. That's the 574 00:40:46,119 --> 00:40:51,719 one thing they do not have right now at all. So if Rizzo can 575 00:40:52,079 --> 00:40:54,360 pan out and I don't want to talk projection yet, I'll get to that 576 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:59,639 at the end. But he's certainly making a case for himself. You mentioned 577 00:40:59,639 --> 00:41:02,920 second in the NCAA scoring. He's third in the NCAAA and points per game 578 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:07,639 at one point five to seven, Like Perro's the number one player in that 579 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,639 category. But you look at the names up there with Rizzo, it's Gay 580 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:15,280 Piro, Maclin, Celebrini, Rucker, mcgrody, Cutter, Gotier and he's 581 00:41:15,599 --> 00:41:21,119 third and all this so it's not a fluke that he's up there. He 582 00:41:21,199 --> 00:41:23,800 is a distributor. He's a playmaker, likes to pass the park, likes 583 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:29,480 to find teammates in scoring areas. Jack Divine and Massimo Rizzo, two former 584 00:41:29,519 --> 00:41:32,679 seventh round picks. It's fun to watch those guys play together because maybe they're 585 00:41:32,679 --> 00:41:36,719 playing with the chip on their shoulder type thing and they can both relate. 586 00:41:37,159 --> 00:41:42,159 But Rizzo, when I watch him play, there are instances where he still 587 00:41:42,519 --> 00:41:45,639 obviously needs work. He's a young kid. He's young, but he's old. 588 00:41:45,679 --> 00:41:47,920 I think for he's a little older. I think for college he's He 589 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,760 is twenty two years old. He's a junior at Denver, So there's going 590 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:57,960 to have to be a decision I believe after this year for him to sign 591 00:41:58,039 --> 00:42:01,039 or not with the Flyers'll see what happens there. If he does, I 592 00:42:01,039 --> 00:42:06,800 think he needs time in the AHL before he kind of transfers to the NHL. 593 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:12,719 What I see him as is a top line AHL center, but also 594 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,800 a guy that can flex in and get some time in the bottom six in 595 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:21,000 the NHL, only because there are things in his game that are not going 596 00:42:21,079 --> 00:42:24,480 to fly. He's very skilled, but he's not going to play in the 597 00:42:24,519 --> 00:42:29,760 top six for in the NHL, So there are things in his game that 598 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,760 he's going to have to brush up on if he's going to play in the 599 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:37,280 bottom six. So he's an interesting player to watch because the talent is there, 600 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:43,679 But sometimes I do wonder about the work ethic is all, and if 601 00:42:43,679 --> 00:42:45,400 the Flyers can get him into their system, maybe get them with the end 602 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:51,239 of Perrier And obviously Tortorella and the Flyers have been able to develop the last 603 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,320 couple of years, so maybe they get Rizzo in the building, they get 604 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:57,800 him in the system, maybe he's a guy they can work with and maybe 605 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,239 they can turn him into something. But as is right now, I see 606 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:07,239 him mostly as a top line AHL center. Oh Jim, you're breaking my 607 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,280 heart. Man. I thought this was I thought this was the guy. 608 00:43:10,519 --> 00:43:15,440 This guy has already scored a goal in a championship winning game. He did 609 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:19,760 it two years ago when the Denver Pioneers win it all. But sounds like 610 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:25,639 the NCAA production just may not translate as well to the NHL unless there's some 611 00:43:25,679 --> 00:43:30,320 significant breakthrough here. Yeah, Like the offensive talent is there, he's got 612 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:35,880 the vision, is a good skater, but like I mentioned, when you 613 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:39,280 put him up against some of the top six NHL players. I'm sorry the 614 00:43:39,599 --> 00:43:44,480 put him up against the top six, top two lines on NHL teams. 615 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:49,079 He's not going to really compete with those guys, and so if he's playing 616 00:43:49,079 --> 00:43:52,360 in the bottom six, like I mentioned, there are parts of his game 617 00:43:52,679 --> 00:43:55,360 that still need work and it won't fly. I'm thinking in terms of the 618 00:43:55,360 --> 00:44:00,400 way the Flyers play, he's going to have to really brush up a guy. 619 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:04,119 I can see maybe spending a year or two in the AHL and then 620 00:44:04,119 --> 00:44:07,400 maybe flexing back and forth. But if he can get that cleaned up, 621 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:12,679 the offensive potential is there to where he can play on a third line in 622 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,119 the NHL. But as I mentioned, there's some parts of his game that 623 00:44:16,599 --> 00:44:21,719 won't fly. Yeah, this is great stuff, Jim. I wondered if 624 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,480 you were okay if I asked you a couple of Flyers questions. Since sure, 625 00:44:23,639 --> 00:44:30,119 Flyers guy, Sure, I'm really interested in this team. They obviously 626 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,280 have overachieved, and I'm sure we're going to talk about this in the offseason. 627 00:44:32,599 --> 00:44:36,719 Obviously, getting Coturier back was huge, but they had some guys that 628 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,360 have taken some big steps right like Tippet, Frost Fairbe, although he's been 629 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:45,320 cold for a little bit. Lawden is a real good depth guy since Zamula. 630 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,519 So I think part of the question here that I want to ask is 631 00:44:47,639 --> 00:44:52,920 part of it is like how for real are some of these productions? And 632 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,960 I specifically want to ask you about Morgan Frost because he's someone that I've been 633 00:44:54,960 --> 00:45:00,719 interted in for a really long time and it sounded like he was a totalrello 634 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:05,199 guy, and then it seems like they had a pretty frank or heated discussion 635 00:45:05,199 --> 00:45:07,719 at some point and turn things around a little bit. And he certainly has 636 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:12,280 taken seems like he's taken some steps forward, but he also seems like he 637 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,119 is still not a favorite of Torts in some ways. So I wonder if 638 00:45:16,119 --> 00:45:22,239 you think he's sticking around because there's been rumors of him maybe being traded and 639 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,119 kind of is this his ceiling? Is he kind of like a fifty point 640 00:45:24,119 --> 00:45:27,639 guy or does he have upside for more because he isn't playing that much. 641 00:45:27,679 --> 00:45:30,920 He's kind of like in that fifteen sixteen minute mark, which is not usually 642 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:36,559 what a two seed play, but that's what he's been getting lately. Yeah, 643 00:45:36,599 --> 00:45:38,000 I think you hit the nail on the head there. For the last 644 00:45:38,039 --> 00:45:42,559 month and a half Morgan Frost has been a different player, a player that 645 00:45:42,599 --> 00:45:47,199 I've never seen him be with the Flyers, and it's what they've been waiting 646 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:52,239 to see from him. It's what they know has been there and this is 647 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:57,239 what they need Autam Morgan Frost. They I mentioned the Flyers lack center depth 648 00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,400 in the entire organization. They need him, as they're to see, they 649 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:06,400 need him to get going. They need an offensive dynamics center that can create 650 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,559 opportunities for shooters. The Flyers have an abundance of guys that can shoot, 651 00:46:09,559 --> 00:46:13,559 that can put the puck in the net. They need a center that can 652 00:46:13,599 --> 00:46:19,079 create opportunities. He's been pushing the puck up ice, taking on defenders. 653 00:46:19,119 --> 00:46:23,920 He's been more aggressive. There's a lot less thinking out there and more just 654 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:29,000 reaction. Hockey is a reactionary sport. Once you start thinking, you're already 655 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:35,320 behind. And so Morgan Frost he's doing all these positive things. Occasionally they 656 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:40,599 are still plays where what I've noticed is he plays too fast. It's almost 657 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:45,960 like his mind is moving faster than his body. And a lot of people 658 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:49,880 say, yeah, you want fast players, you want creativity, Yes, 659 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:54,039 but you also need to consider your line mates and either they're not used to 660 00:46:54,360 --> 00:47:00,280 playing his style or he's not used to playing their style. Either way needs 661 00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:04,440 to be some kind of compromise. You can't go out on the ice and 662 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:08,159 just play your game like it's great that you're this skilled and you can do 663 00:47:08,199 --> 00:47:14,880 all these things, but there's two other players on your line. So that's 664 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,400 something that I noticed with Frost, and I don't want to call it selfishness 665 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:21,480 because I don't think it is. I think he's trying to do the right 666 00:47:21,519 --> 00:47:27,119 things, but he needs to slow down. Sometimes it sounds like a negative 667 00:47:27,159 --> 00:47:30,920 thing, and maybe it is, but that's something I've noticed that he needs 668 00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,840 to work on a little bit. Just tone it down. Remember that maybe 669 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,880 your linemates aren't as fast as you. I don't know. That's something I 670 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,480 observe, though, and I'm not sure if it's a positive on him or 671 00:47:40,519 --> 00:47:44,920 a negative. Maybe his linemates need to play a little faster. I don't 672 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:46,800 know. But some of the decisions that he makes still bother me. And 673 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:52,320 I'm sure bother Tortorella. You mentioned he might not be a Tortorella guy. 674 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,440 I don't think he is. I think it meant a lot of Tortorella that 675 00:47:54,599 --> 00:47:59,719 Frost came in to have that conversation with him about playing time and being benched 676 00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,840 again, and Morgan Frost went on a tear after that. We know Towards 677 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:07,519 likes to press buttons. I think Morgan Frost is more of a laid back 678 00:48:07,599 --> 00:48:12,480 kind of guy, and I think Towards is the kind of coach where he 679 00:48:12,599 --> 00:48:15,480 knows he needs more from Frost and he's trying to rip it out of him. 680 00:48:15,639 --> 00:48:19,199 Right. It's like a coaching strategy where it's like, if you can 681 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,800 create, if you can get the player angry at you, maybe he'll try 682 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,360 to prove you wrong kind of thing. And I think that's what the case 683 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:30,440 is here. I just hope it can last. You mentioned is Frost a 684 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:37,599 fifty point player, and I think he's projected fifty points since December or January 685 00:48:37,599 --> 00:48:43,039 when he started picking things up a little bit. My issue is, and 686 00:48:43,119 --> 00:48:46,199 it was at the beginning of the season starts in October, and it's not 687 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:50,920 fair to the team for them to have to wait for you to kind of 688 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,599 turn things on here. I'm not sure if that's a mental thing with Frost, 689 00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:59,599 but it's become a thing that it takes him a while to get going, 690 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,199 and for me, I don't think that's fair to the team, like 691 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:07,920 you need to be going day one when everybody else is, and if he 692 00:49:07,079 --> 00:49:12,239 is, we should be looking at a sixty plus point player. I don't 693 00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,440 see any reason why Frost can't be a twenty goal forty assist guy. It's 694 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:21,960 almost like he holds himself back sometimes. It's definitely an interesting and somewhat frustrating 695 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,760 player because he definitely has lots of skill, but it seems like sometimes he 696 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:30,440 makes just the wrong read or like a softer, tricky play or something, 697 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:35,960 and sometimes on the backcheck it's like he spaces out for a minute. Oh 698 00:49:36,079 --> 00:49:38,119 sorry, there's a guy there right, and it's always like the wrong time 699 00:49:38,159 --> 00:49:40,679 to do that. I think last night he might have even seen a couple 700 00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:45,599 of times where he just got lost, or maybe it was a Toronto game 701 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,840 where they lost in overtime. If you go back and watch the overtime goal, 702 00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:52,079 I know it's three on three, but you watch Morgan Frost and it's 703 00:49:52,119 --> 00:49:54,880 you wondering what he's seeing. I definitely watch that at that specific play a 704 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:58,320 couple of times, and I watched him and it's like, what are you 705 00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,719 doing? He's just they're covering. And then in the outdoor game, yeah, 706 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:06,400 he loses his place and I forget who scored backdoor that was just a 707 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:07,559 few feet away from him, and he's just on the wrong spot. So 708 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:12,079 that happens a lot. But then you watch the high end skill and you're 709 00:50:12,119 --> 00:50:15,280 just like, whoa Like he can make these crazy spinnerama tape to tape passes 710 00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:19,360 or thread it through a couple of sticks, and it's just yeah, that's 711 00:50:19,519 --> 00:50:22,320 you can see why people are still eye on him because he has tons of 712 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,960 skill and like you said, specifically for what the flyers need, those connectors, 713 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,159 those distributors. One more guy I wanted to ask you about, and 714 00:50:30,199 --> 00:50:34,480 that's Cam York. So he's a younger defenceman. He's now twenty three, 715 00:50:34,559 --> 00:50:37,960 so he's not super young. And I think some people questioned the size issue 716 00:50:38,039 --> 00:50:42,079 and the competitiveness, but I don't know that's been as big of an issue. 717 00:50:42,079 --> 00:50:45,599 He's playing really good minutes twenty one minutes. I think one of the 718 00:50:45,639 --> 00:50:49,880 frustrating things is that Tortorella has been just moving his power play time all over 719 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,119 the place, and a lot of people thought York would be the guy all 720 00:50:52,199 --> 00:50:58,039 year, and that's really hurt his fantasy production. He has eighteen points in 721 00:50:58,039 --> 00:51:01,079 fifty six games, twenty six point pace and only five power play points in 722 00:51:01,119 --> 00:51:05,719 that time. He's getting two minutes on average a night. But it has 723 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,719 really varied as far as I remember. I know we've we have done a 724 00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:12,920 lot of time Sanheim. There's been a lot of different guys running that power 725 00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,880 play. I'm wondering what you think about York, whether he's going to continue 726 00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,840 to get good minutes and maybe more power play time, because right now, 727 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:23,039 a twenty six point pace is not someone who's super interesting in fantasy. But 728 00:51:23,079 --> 00:51:25,840 I think he still has a skill to do more if he's just given the 729 00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:30,880 opportunity. What do you think about York? So a couple things I'll get 730 00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:34,760 I think the positive stuff. I'll get the good news first. So, 731 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,840 York's a very smart player. I think he has the ability to put up 732 00:51:38,599 --> 00:51:44,480 thirty plus points, thirty five plus points in the NHL. I think he's 733 00:51:44,519 --> 00:51:49,239 a very good second pair guy, which you need. So it's not a 734 00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,920 knock to say that he's not a first line guy. For a first pair 735 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,840 guy, you need very good second pair guys, and I think that's what 736 00:51:55,960 --> 00:52:00,719 York is You're right. He has been moved around a lot. He's had 737 00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,440 different defensive partners. He was playing with Sandheim for a bit and then he's 738 00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,840 playing with Drysdale. I think even with Nick Sealer for a little bit there. 739 00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,880 The Flyers are trying to figure out their d so it hasn't really been 740 00:52:12,039 --> 00:52:16,079 easy for him, and we all know consistency on familiarity it makes it better, 741 00:52:16,159 --> 00:52:20,599 especially when you're one of these younger guys. He's been very good defensively, 742 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:25,199 but I've always been skeptical about his offensive production, especially on the power 743 00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:32,360 play. I don't he's not a guy that gets pucks to goal consistently. 744 00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:37,519 He can quarterback a power play, but you don't really have to worry about 745 00:52:37,519 --> 00:52:42,719 his shot, so in my opinion, that makes him less effective and easier 746 00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:49,639 to defend. I don't how can I say this without making it too personal. 747 00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:54,280 I don't think he's PP one type player. I think he's okay on 748 00:52:54,440 --> 00:53:02,000 the PP two, But fantasy wise, I wouldn't have huge expectations for Cam 749 00:53:02,079 --> 00:53:07,840 York offensively. He's been more a better defensive player this season. I think 750 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:15,239 Tortorella made a point to develop him defensively. Travis Sandheim is his line mate 751 00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:19,039 for a large part of the years having a breakout offensive season, but Cam 752 00:53:19,159 --> 00:53:25,119 York I don't have the optimism offensively as maybe most people do. Tremendous, 753 00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:30,360 a little extra Flyers content for the listeners, Jim, thank you so much 754 00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:35,639 for joining us today. Anything that you want to promote out there, Oh, 755 00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:37,880 just my work on Dauber prospects, So you guys can also check out 756 00:53:38,039 --> 00:53:42,400 my work for High and White hockey. We have a site hw hockey dot 757 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,280 net. We do a podcast once a week predicated around the Philadelphia Flyers, 758 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,559 So if you're a Flyers fan or you want to know what's going on with 759 00:53:47,599 --> 00:53:52,119 the Flyers, check that out. 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