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Joe Escalante live from Hollywood, Not
really Hollywood, We're actually in Burbank.

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Thank you so much for listening to
us on KiB right here in Los Angeles

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and on your iHeartRadio app worldwide.
I'm filling in for Joe Escalante who is

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about to jump on a plane in
Spain and fly all the way back here.

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So Joe, please have safe travels. We love you, buddy.

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Thank you so much for calling us
earlier at It was midnight in Spain and

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he was just hanging out at in
Pamplona with the running of the bulls.

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I'm sure he was exhausted. It
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water when we were talking to him. It sounded like he needed to hydrate

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because it sounded like he did a
lot of running away from bow Vines,

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long day in the bullpen. Yeah, and like you guy, a little

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bit tired. Yeah. So we
were talking a little bit earlier about the

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upgrades happening at Regal and investing in
the company to bring the best out of

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it and trying to make it a
better experience for the people, for the

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audience out there, and something that
the audience was used to having. If

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we didn't if we couldn't go to
the movies, was being able to pick

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up a DVD or a Blu ray. And since those are kind of being

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phased out by streaming, red Box, the ubiquitous red Box, you see

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them everywhere outside of every seven eleven. Yeah, they're not going to be

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outside seven eleven very much longer.
They just filed chapter seven bankruptcy. They

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actually tried to do Chapter eleven.
They realized that there wasn't anything they're worth

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salvaging, so they are just selling
it for spare parts exactly. And sadly

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because I have so many good memories
as a kid of just going to the

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red Box and tapping through that screen. Sometimes it was broken and like half

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the pixels didn't work, But that
was part of the challenge. You really

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had to earn that movie. Plus
on a sunny day, you needed to

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use that shade that they had over
the top so it didn't burn into the

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screen. But a thousand employees at
red Box are haven't gotten paid. That's

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right, Yeah, that's not good. So it is a sign of the

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time things moving farward, uh,
the way that the industry progresses. And

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this is one of those things you
know vhs had to go by the wayside,

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Beta Max a bit of dust back
in the day. And now that

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we're slowly starting to see the phasing
out of physical media of CDs, DVDs,

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blu rays, all of them are
being subbed out because we're getting the

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same kind of quality and usually a
lot faster without having to go to like

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to a store to buy it.
So we're you getting all we need from

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streaming services. So, you know, we we saw Blockbuster Video evaporate,

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you would imagine that over you know
time, with the way things are going,

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red Box is going to be gone
the same way. So exactly,

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it's it's a shame. I think
it's going to be one of those things

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that you know, we all look
back fondly on and we'll we'll see like

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a red Box thing pop up like
at some novelty place or at some random

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bar and people can kind of get
their novelty kick out of it again.

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But that's that's a shame. We're
going to lose red Box and that's heartbreaking.

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Yeah, And honestly, I think
that there's probably going to be some

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lawsuits to follow because the lawyers from
the company said that money was put allegedly

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deducted from workers' paychecks that was meant
to cover health care benefits, things like

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that, and directed elsewhere. And
an additional thing is that now that these

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thousand employees are going to be losing
their jobs who still have not been paid

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for the work that they've already done, that people are investigating like what happened

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financially within the company to kind of
make that happen. And now within the

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Chapter eleven bankruptcy, all of the
assets would have been put into an estate

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that then the company can continue to
use. But as they were transitioning between

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the two bankruptcies, the company execs
fired the group of people tasked with managing

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and monetizing those assets, which makes
it a lot easier for them to just

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liquidate them without having any liability for
where that money was going or really tracking

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it to make sure that the employees
who need to be paid and who have

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already performed services for pay have you
know, they're not going to get it.

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So it's going to be kind of
messy for red Box, pretty disappointing,

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But yeah, lenders don't want to
go and back up a company that

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I'm just looking at this one.
The former chief executive owned eighty percent of

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the shares and is the one who
is primarily being accused of misusing funds.

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So when you have something that's that
dominated at the top by one person owning

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eighty percent of it, the lenders
don't want to do business with them anymore,

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and when they see just how badly
misused the funds for the company were.

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So it's a shame when you see
corruption destroy a company that may have

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found other ways of surviving past the
and you know, maybe creating its own

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streaming service that you know, it
would be difficult to make one that competes

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with Netflix and all of the other
ones out there, but red Box does

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have a brand and it may have
been able to profit off of that,

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but now we'll never know exactly.
And one of the things that's probably scooping

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a little bit of the dirt on
the grave of Redbox is a new streaming

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service. Yay, another thing we're
gonna have to pony up a little bit

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of money for every month. This
one is coming from Hallmark, So we're

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gonna have the Hallmark Plus streaming service
coming up in September. Yeah, yeah,

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So I'm really I'm doing the best
to temper my enthusiasm about this.

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But we were trying to talk about
some of it, like, you know,

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if we can think of any favorite
Hallmark movies that have existed, do

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you think? But yeah, no, the only one that I can think

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of was Death of a Cheerleader,
and that one I only know because they

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filmed it at my high school,
Westlake High School up Thousand Oaks. Yeah.

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Absolutely, And so I was in
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of that, So they did a
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school. So that that was the
one fun part about growing up in high

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school out going to high school out
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ended up in a movie. And
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I was a freshman that I showed
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I actually got paid. Hey,
I got paid like seventy five bucks a

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day. It was called a Dangerous
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Yes, my high school was a
dangerous place. Now it was did you

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look scared? Get in here?
It was a straight to HBO film that

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had it was like had karate like
tournament in it, and they had me

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as an extra in the tournament.
It was kind of funny. So I

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made like seventy five bucks for two
days or one hundred and fifty bucks for

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two days work. That's amazing.
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like, this is the coolest thing
ever. Yeah. I remember the school

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up the street. For me,
I went to a Catholic school and then

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there was a very beautiful all girls
Catholic school right up the street. They

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shot a lot of ladybird there.
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very recognizable too. I think the
school is now shut down, but like

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they filmed a lot of other cool
stuff there. The scene from bird Box

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where like the car flips over was
by my mom's house. But back to

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Hallmark. I wonder like who they're
going to use to promo this site,

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because I feel like whenever a new
product like this comes out, they kind

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of pick the big influencers or groups
of people that can kind of push it

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along to the right audience, giving
them like a special code or something like

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you know, I'm my gym,
my bar studio. For all the girlies.

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We get like free hair hair shampoo, Like we get little samples of

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that. Is it going to be
like in the English Teacher's department lounge where

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they plug this. I don't know, beating circles like who's gonna go.

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I don't know who the target audience
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subscriptions will go up around the holidays
because they know usually people come home from

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the holidays and they like to have
a lot of the holiday films on and

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that seems to be like an endless
stream bah holiday family fun. So I

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get the feeling that you know,
you'll see it kind of like seasonally shift

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as far as their subscription, the
number of subscribers that they have, kind

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of like how people will subscribe to
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out, and then once that show's
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because they saw all the shows,
saw the episodes. So yeah, I

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could see this becoming a thing that
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be a niche following for sure.
It's kind of funny that you point out

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that maybe people would just have things
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horror fan, I can't imagine on
Halloween being like, you know what,

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let's get into the season and play
Insidious two on the TV on repeat.

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That would just really get us in
the mood. Yeah, totally. That

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usually for me on repeat, it
it'll be like the movie that people can't

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really tell if it's a Halloween movie
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or just plays on repeat between octopery. Yeah, that's just on constant

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and I have got I've got kids, so that's got you know, you

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definitely have that all the time during
the holiday season. You know my holiday

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repeat series Seinfeld, Oh so cozy
it is. Yeah, I'm for Thanksgiving.

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I'm a mystery signed seed, a
three thousand nerd, and there's always

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a Thanksgiving tradition with that show.
So that's my big holiday traditional show.

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Sorry, Hallmark, you're not going
to get my money just saying I appreciate

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you guys. I think that what
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we need, just not for me. Not going to put in the money

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for that. Sorry, I got
I got that money, could go to

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another month of Netflix. Yeah,
just goes poorly. Then I'll be hopping

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on that streaming service asap. I
think that's maybe what Maybe that's the target

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audience. There you go, We'll
be right back. We got some more

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coming up. We got a couple
of big lawsuits to talk about. I'm

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sure this will make Joe Escalante very
happy because he is an entertainment lawyer and

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this is these are these are two
entertainment law things that we're about to get

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into. So yeah, keep it
right here. We're going to be right

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back after traffic. Joe Ascalante live
from Hollywood, not Hollywood. We keep

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saying that it's Burbank. Thank you
so much for joining us on k E.

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I B A M eleven fifty,
I am Engineers Sam, and we

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got producer Nikki in the house right
now. Joe Escalante is going to be

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flying back tomorrow, so that next
week we will have Joe Escalante in the

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house. But to enjoy us reunion, it will be Yeah, we miss

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him. I can't wait to see
what he comes back with. Usually whenever

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he visits a foreign country, he
comes back with something to either show off

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or if we're lucky, fingers crossed
again awesome. Yeah, he doesn't have

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kids, That's why he can afford
to buy stuff for other people. What

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a sat What a saint. Anyways, we were talking about a couple of

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lawsuits, big Hollywood legal lawsuits going
on right now. One of them involves

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one of the you know, one
of the seminole rap bands out of New

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York from the eighties and nineties,
the Beastie Boys. They have a lawsuit

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going up against Chili's because Chili's in
one of their ads, used the song

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sabotage. Well, yeah, that'll
get you a lawsuit. Yeah. Every

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time you would think that, and
they were using the song starting in twenty

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twenty two, you would think that
the company would have some kind of sense

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to know that you need to ask
for permission to do that. But no,

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so now they're saying that the use
of it was unauthorized. It infringes

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on the band's ownership of the song
since it was already registered at the copyright

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office. People over at Chili's were
reached for comment. They didn't immediately respond,

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but the reps for the Beastie Boys
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They're just gonna, you know,
let the lawsuits speak for itself. But

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yeah, it's interesting to see that
the people over at Chili's didn't know well

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enough to not infringe upon stuff that
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what is funny too, is that
this has happened a couple of other times

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with the Beastie Boys with a lawsuit
that they won in twenty fourteen against Monster

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when they used a remix of one
of their songs for promotional content, and

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so then they won one point seven
million dollars. That's example number one,

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okay, And then earlier in the
year I think, also still twenty fourteen,

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they won another lawsuit against a Goldie
Box or Goldie Blocks, which is

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like a toy company using their song
girls, Like there's precedent here to not

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mess with them because clearly they're litigious
and successful. So like Chili is advertising

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what's going on, there's there's some
intern out there being like, oh,

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oh, I didn't know well.
And the thing is that it's not like

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they're doing like you know, like
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They What they did was that they
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the exact same style of outfits that
they had in the sabotage video. So

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there you could tell that they're trying
to show that they were influenced by this

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stuff because they know it's really cool
stuff. Everybody looks back fondly on that

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stuff, so why not. But
yeah, if you're going to do a

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straight up knockoff of exactly what they
were doing. Then, yeah, they're

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going to try to say that you
guys were you know, infringing upon our

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intellectual property there, and we could
you know, sue you for no less

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than one hundred and fifty thousand dollars
for wilful infringement of their music. Good

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luck, Chillies. Yeah, I
have fun with that. Another lawsuit involves

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Fox News or not Fox News,
sorry Fox the parent company the right.

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Yeah. Fox is suing a pop
up bar in Philadelphia for doing a pop

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up of most Tavern from The Simpsons. Now, we've seen these pop up

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bars come around every once in a
while. They had the the Scum and

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Villainy Cantina, which was a pop
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and it had a lot of the
same They tried to make it similar to

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the cantina in the Star Wars movie, so it evoked a lot of the

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same imagery and had a lot of
the references and stuff like that. But

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this is one that appears the people
in Philadelphia did not get permission and now

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they're getting sued, which sucks because
really the only place you can go to

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catch a most tavern anywhere anything that's
like I guess authorized is at Universal Studios,

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and you got to pay a lot
of money to get in just to

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see, like to get an extremely
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crowds that are trying to get in
there as well. Exactly, and just

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the poor guys in Pennsylvania wanted to
have a cute little cartoon meetup. I

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think, I mean, I hope
it wasn't trying to get back at Fox

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or something like that. It seems
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it's like, yeah, yeah,
you did do the thing that Fox can

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come after you for. So it
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Yeah, well they were charging admission. It was like a thirty seven dollars

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ticket to get in. Yeah Simpson, well you have Simpson themed food and

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beer. It came with the ticket. So you have a lot of the

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stuff that's from the Simpsons. I'm
sure they have, you know, Deff

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beer and uh maybe they have their
competitor fud from there. It was yet

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they outlined everything they said. The
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trim, the most sign you know, also very specific interiors. They got

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a picture of Homer Simpson on the
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in. Yeah, I could see
where they they were selling Simpsons the merchandise

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without permission, and twenty century Fox
owns the entire franchise and everything. You're

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not gonna get away with making money
off of something that other people own.

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a picture of the Simpsons in the
place. Fine, but they're selling like

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T shirts and memorabilia and merchandise.
Now that's money that twentieth century Fox wants

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to get their fingers on, exactly. So, yeah, that's a shame

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because that's the kind of you have
a pop up bar like that. Had

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they not been selling extra merchandise and
doing that extra if they may have been

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able to fly under the radar and
get away with it. Yeah. And

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the people who put this on are
claiming parody. Well, it's not like

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fake Most Havevern. It's not parody
Most Haven. It's just it's kind of

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is just Most Haven. And that's
where you can't really play the parity card

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if you're not going for the parity
image. So that's just that's just pronounced

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trademark infringement. Yeah, I'm sure
they sent a cease and desist, but

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they obviously didn't cease or desist,
so now they're getting actually yeah, yeah.

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want to go out and experience and
spend money at having it get taken down

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because they did something dumb like sell
merchandise that they really shouldn't have. They

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may have gotten away with just having
like a most havevern pop up. Yeah,

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it may have flown under the radar, but since there's being money being

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made, of course people are going
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I mean, frankly, anytime anyone
tries to charge me a thirty seven

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dollars cover fee, I want to
sue too. So that's grounds enough.

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I'll just start with that. Fair
enough, Seriously, prices are outrageous nowadays.

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Uh okay, Well let's go and
Judd, we will have like a

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little transition moment and we will go
away from lawsuits and go to something that

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just happened yesterday. The Kid's Choice
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They did take place in Santa Monica, not far from where I work.

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I was lucky enough on my little
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a glimpse of the gargantuan SpongeBob made
of cinderblocks that they were painting by hand.

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Let me just tell you, guys, this was no joke. I

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felt like an Egyptian watching the Sphinx
get filed. It was so epic.

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It's like, wait, that's my
favorite pharaoh and he's so big. That's

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how I felt about mister SpongeBob,
which, by the way, has recently

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turned twenty five years old. I
think today is SpongeBob's birthday. Actually,

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yeah, like we got to Google
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today. And Happy birthday, SpongeBob. He's twenty five years old. He

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still acts like he's what like eight
July fourteenth. That's right, Yay,

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Happy birthday, SpongeBob. And congratulations
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for Favorite Cartoon. I mean it
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Yeah, yeah, for sure.
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I think kept Nickelodeon afloat for the
last maybe twenty years. It's a spunge.

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about the Kids' Choice Awards that I
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of a grab bag of everything.
This is just the kids. The kids

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just choose. Yeah. Well,
and the cool thing is that here's something

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that they The categories that they have
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Animated film, so best Voice Actor
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don't necessarily see that in other award
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Kid's Choice Awards. But that's I
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money in Hollywood exactly. It's the
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ones who are going out of their
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Best Actress was Margot Robbie for Barbie. Best Actor was Timothy sports Chalet for

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Wonka. That's that's interesting. Yeah, I'm a big fan of sports Shelle.

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did do that. He did snatch
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Willy Wonka was someone interesting I wouldn't
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movie. Do you saw Wonka?
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of the original like Gene Wilder.
Willy Wonka did a great job of that.

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I'm a big fan of his work.

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before we go to break, a
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category. You had Super Mario Brothers. You had teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles,

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which everybody like thought was the underground
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to Spider Man across the Spider Verse. And I'm still waiting for that.

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Kids Have Got Taste. Thank you Kids

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Choice Awards. That's right, we'll
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break right now. We got update
from Fox News Central coming up, and

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after that we're going to get into
some more stuff. My heart is breaking

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on this next story. I love
inside the NBA, and they're gonna take

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it outside of the NBA. We'll
be right back. Joe Ascalante live from

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Hollywood. We are in Burbank.
Thank you so much for joining us.

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these stories of the week coming out
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joining us on AIB and on the
iHeartRadio app. I'm gonna throw the phone

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fifty. We were looking at some
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Wards. I know we usually when
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tend to be on more of the
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the Porn Awards or anything like that. I'm talking about like the you know,

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like the Oscars or the Grammys.
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necessarily a bell Weather, but it's
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Hollywood are going because kids tend to
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Definitely, so when you see stuff
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the favorite male creator, A lot
of our audience isn't gonna know who mister

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Beast is, but if you saw
how much money he was giving away and

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how much stuff he was giving away
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in because there it's competitive stuff,
obviously, but it's like you're s people

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win millions of dollars. And not
only are you seeing people go through these

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crazy tasks put on by some like
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it from every single four K camera
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by the contestants. I mean,
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of media, but when I sat
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minute Mister Beast video the other day
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maybe the kids are onto something good. Yeah, soy. We'll keep an

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eye on all of those little trends
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But one thing that I wanted to
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you, Nikki, I'm a big
sports fan. I know I keep my

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finger on the pulse of the sports
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this is a story that has me
like very much like it's a close story

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for me because I'm a big basketball
fan, and the NBA are there going

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through contract negotiations as far as they're
brought the broadcast rights. Who gets to

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play NBA games for us to you
know, consume, but NBA. Right

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now, it looks like the rights
for the NBA are going from ABC and

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TNT. They're now moving the rights
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and ABC ESPN from the twenty twenty
five twenty twenty six season all the way

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through the twenty twenty thirty five twenty
thirty six season. The NBA is going

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to get about seventy six billion dollars
on this deal. Now, that sounds

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all well and good. It sounds
a lot like, you know, a

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lot of like you know, inside
baseball, as far as you know the

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companies and the amount of money that's
going around. But the thing that I'm

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really hurt by is that TNT,
which has been covering the NBA since like

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nineteen ninety, is going to be
losing the rights to the NBA, and

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along with it goes arguably one of
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like one of the no choke funniest
shows you want to see. Charles

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Barkley, Shaquille O'Neil just ripping each
other to shreds. I was showing Nikki

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some of the videos from that show, and it's legitimately like there's reasons why

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it's won Emmy Award after Emmy Award
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shows on TV, and we after
next season are very likely to be deprived

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of it. Now there is a
chance that you know, like the whole

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thing could end up in court and
TNT can sue to try to keep the

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hope on Dreams alive for NBA fans
everywhere, but they also could try to

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match the deal. Then they'll have
five days to match the deal once the

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official deal is you know, signed
out. Once they make the agreement to

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the deal, TNT will have the
right to match the deal, but it's

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highly unlikely that they're going to be
able to pull the resources to do it

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right. So that means and Charles
Barkley has already announced that he since tn

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anybody else, no other network,
so he's going to retire, so he's

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done with that. Afterwards, Kail
O'Neil. I'm sure he's gonna find Shaq

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is like a he is a multi
media conglomerate just by himself, so he'll

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find some way to do something fun. And you know, Kenny Smith is

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always fun and entertaining. But really
all three of them together with Ernie Johnson

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was one of the It was just
like watching my family having hilarious arguments with

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each other about sports or just any
topic in general. Yeah, I mean,

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just just seeing the chemistry from like
the clips that Sam showed me in

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studio. Hey, I'm not I'm
not a sports fan. I'm not a

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basketball fan. I'm hardly even a
TV watcher, but oh my god,

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Charles Barkley is so funny and the
chemistry that they have so good that even

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now I'm sad about this loss.
Yeah, and I'm sure we're gonna have

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a lot of Like you know,
I remember, back in like nineteen eighty

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nine, Kareem Abdul Jabbar retired was
retiring from the Lakers, and every city

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he went to they did some kind
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the greatest basketball player of all time
at that point. So I can see

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for every city that they go to
they're gonna do some kind of tribute to

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them, and that's gonna be fun
to watch because there's always gonna be good

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stuff happening. But it's also gonna
be really bittersweet because we know the reason

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for us seeing a lot of that, like the new like whenever they'll go

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and like to have tributes to them
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that they'll relive and stuff like that. It's gonna be really bittersweet because we

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know it's not gonna be around forever. And I'm happy we have YouTube.

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I mean, I can go ahead
and you know YouTube those the old clips

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all the time, but it's still
not gonna be the same knowing that they're

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gonna be gone. And that's something
that I think it's it's not just a

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loss to sports fans if you don't
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that show and find it hilarious.
They're really the way that they the the

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interactions, the bits that they have
with each other. Watching Kenny Smith shove

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Shaquille O'Neal into a Christmas tree maybe
the funniest thing I've ever seen. I

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Mean, there's so much going on
on that show that it's gonna be a

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loss to the American zeitgeist once it's
gone. God, that's so true.

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So yeah, we're gonna you know, I'm gonna mourn that pretty hard.

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I don't know about you. I'm
sure a lot of other people are going

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to be mourning. Yeah, anyone
has some spare billion dollars, we can

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actually recommend you donate it to a
certain direction if we want to keep seeing

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some of the show. Yeah,
I'm sorry, Turner. You guys got

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a lot of money. Pony it
up. Do something for us. We

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need it as a culture. It
was one of the few things that we

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could all unite behind. I love
that stuff. Let's do it again.

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Run it back. Also, I
mean, because we're talking about how that,

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you know, to keep that dream
alive, TNT may need to sue

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the NBA and all of the other
you know, like Amazon and all the

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other companies that are involved in that
deal. There's other lawsuits that we got

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to look at from the entertainment industry
that are popping up left and right.

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Rebel Wilson, the actress the Hilarious
Wearbel Wilson sued for deaf by producers from

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the deb after she called them out. Yeah, there was kind of a

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dual lawsuit going on there. So
she had recently said that the producers were

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doing some things not so great with
their cash. They weren't really acting appropriately

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on the show. Basically, she
had accused that they were trying to sabotage

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the movie because they didn't want to
show it as the final film and was

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at the Canadian Film Festival that it
was a part of, or was supposed

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to be a part of. I
think it was basically Rebel being disappointed in

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the way that they had managed the
film for press releases. Additionally, there

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was a writing credit that seems to
be at the center of this issue,

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where Rebel Wilson wanted to have a
standard writing credit, but I think she

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only ended up with like an additional
writing by credit in the film. It

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seems like there was someone who was
a recipient of a scholarship from Wilson to

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do more writing. I think her
name was Hannah Riley seems to be the

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person who was also a writer on
this film instead received that writing credit,

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and there was definitely an imbalance of
power between the you know, Rebel Wilson

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giving this money to this other writer
trying to improve their own career and then

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maybe this potentially allegedly sabotage relationship between
how Rebel actually wanted the credit to be

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distributed. And that is basically what
happened. When Wilson talked about what was

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happening on Instagram I think it was
on social media. Then the three producers

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involved kind of I don't know if
they just responded or they went ahead and

418
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sued Rebel Wilson for the what the
detrimental things that she said about them,

419
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including that was it that Rebel had
been sexually harassed somebody. I don't want

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to throw that one around, but
that's something that I read regards darting her

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relationship to the additional writing staff on
that show. Yeah, they said they

422
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try to resolve things with her in
good faith, but they basically felt that

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her actions were deliberate. It was
an effort to damage their reputations and sabotage

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the entire thing. And it's a
shame whenever. I mean, these are

425
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the dirty moments and the dirty controversies
that you see in Hollywood that pop up

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where people get their egos, their
feelings hurt, and they want to get

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more credit for something, or they
feel like the direction of their idea isn't

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going where they wanted to, so
then they start talking up and speaking out

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against it. And it's a shame
when this happens because people really like Rebel

430
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Wilson, so you don't want to
have to necessarily think something negative about her,

431
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and she seems like an inappropriate way
to go about your career if you're

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trying to continue to have one,
to start throwing around things like sexual harassment

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allegations and get credit where credit's due. But at that point, like if

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you have given someone an opportunity to
have a writing credit on a film that

435
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you are going to be in and
then you kind of want to steal their

436
00:31:10.160 --> 00:31:14.759
credit, that's that's just not very
cool. Yeah, it's never nice,

437
00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:18.839
and it's honestly, especially disappointing when
like somebody's so funny it's just do something

438
00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:22.079
kind of whack. Yeah it's okay, man, no one's laughing. You

439
00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:26.359
can stop. Yeah, No,
that's just disappointing. Yeah, anyways,

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we got more celebrities behaving badly.
We got one more segment left on the

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show. So thank you so much
for all of you who have stuck it

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through with us up until now and
yeah, you'll be back to your own

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devices in about fifteen minutes. We'll
be right back. We got traffic coming

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up. Keep it right here,
Joe Joe Escalate live from Hollywood. Thank

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you so much for joining us here
on your iHeartRadio app and on k E

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I B A M eleven fifty.
I am engineer Sam. I'm here with

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producer Nikki. We are here filling
in for Joe Escalante, who's about to

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00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:25.240
fly back here from Spain. He
was running with the bulls and now he

449
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will be flying with the clouds.
We got one story of celebrities behaving badly.

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It's my favorite segment of the show. This one is actually not necessarily

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a celebrity. It's the son of
a celebrity. It is Weston almost sounds

452
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like a kind of oil. Weston
Cage, Nicholas Cage's son. We've been

453
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talking about a lot, a lot
about Nick Cage. Today, his son

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got arrested for assault with a deadly
weapon. It's one now that right there

455
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alone is bad enough. He assaulted
his mother. What that sucks? She

456
00:33:02.200 --> 00:33:07.200
was quoted. She was arriving to
offer him support and console him. He

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was in deteriorating mental state and urged
her to come and help. She showed

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up and within minutes she was According
to her own words, she was brutally

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assaulted and sustained serious injuries. Despite
her desperate pleas to the responding police officers

460
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to detain him from mental health evaluation, the cops refused the request and arrested

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00:33:28.200 --> 00:33:32.319
him straight up. They confirmed that
it was The arrest was related to the

462
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It was a verbal scuffle that escalated
into a physical assault. And yeah,

463
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during the incident, he punched two
victims multiple times, causing injury. The

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cops responded and detained him, and
he's was yeah, filed to the DA

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00:33:51.960 --> 00:33:57.559
filed two counts of assault with a
deadly weapon against Weston on June twenty sixth,

466
00:33:57.599 --> 00:34:00.799
and with an arrest warrant issued some
time after. Wait, was the

467
00:34:00.799 --> 00:34:04.799
weapon his fists? I'm sorry,
I don't know if his fists are a

468
00:34:04.839 --> 00:34:07.640
deadly weapon. I don't think he
is like a martial arts an expert or

469
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anything. But yeah, that's a
little frightening because she, like just being

470
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a good mom, went to go
and care for her kid who was saying

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like urging her to come and help
her, and within minutes he is assaulting

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00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:27.280
her. Now, that shows the
importance of making sure that people get adequate

473
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mental health care. And I mean
I am a mental health professional, so

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this is something that's very like important
to me. At the same time,

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it's the cops also have to know
how to deal with the situation, and

476
00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:42.280
the mom herself was urging them.
You need to get you need to get

477
00:34:42.280 --> 00:34:45.119
a pet team in here, You
need to get as psychiatric evaluation team in

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here to get to find out what's
going on, because he was in an

479
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extremely manic state, and that's a
very dangerous state for anybody to be in

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whenever you're introducing cops into the situation
exactly, because that's where things go sideways

481
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and people who are you know,
have are in the middle of psychiatric distress

482
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end up getting shot and killed.
So there is something to be said about

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how things were handled in the situation. I'll leave that up to other people

484
00:35:15.559 --> 00:35:19.719
to have that discussion. But yeah, beating up your mom is never a

485
00:35:19.719 --> 00:35:22.400
good thing. Yeah, and it's
it's honestly not the best press after Nick

486
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Cage stars in a horror film where
he is a cultish serial killer. So

487
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just got to say it's not a
great not a great one to one.

488
00:35:31.199 --> 00:35:35.679
No, no bad timing, yeah, bad timing. Yeah, but you

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00:35:35.719 --> 00:35:38.360
know, hope he's hope, he's
okay. Morala's story. Don't beat your

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mom. Yeah, I mean,
just as a rule, standard rule,

491
00:35:42.320 --> 00:35:45.119
standard rule, mental health care is
great, and don't beat your mom.

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Yeah. Absolutely, we learned something. Yeah. So, uh, we're

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gonna close this out with a little
bit of inside baseball when it comes to

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Hollywood in the inner workings and dealings
with these uh, these Hollywood film companies

495
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and streaming companies, and Paramount is
about to strike a gigantic major deal with

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sky Dance, and there's some issues. There are some issues. I mean,

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I think that anyone who's been following
this sort of instance of a huge,

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the hugest media company trying to make
a ggnormous shift into what they're going

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00:36:17.559 --> 00:36:23.320
to call new Paramount is expecting some
turbulence along the way. I mean,

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there are other who is it that
wants to see their books? That was

501
00:36:28.920 --> 00:36:31.880
let's see here. People want to
see the books because basically, what's going

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to happen here in order to facilitate
this sale between Paramount and sky Dance,

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there is going to be someone who
is named Sherry Redstone, who owns what

504
00:36:43.760 --> 00:36:49.440
is it, eighty percent of Paramount. That's crazy, she has voter ability.

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00:36:49.719 --> 00:36:52.960
And what's happening, which I think
is actually very interesting, is the

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relationship between the sky Dance chief David
Ellison, who is now friends with Sherry

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00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:05.800
Redstone's son, Tyler Korf, who
has kind of been serving as her advisor

508
00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:10.320
and mediator during this process. They're
friends, they met at I think some

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sort of conference or relationship they created
based on the ongoing kind of agreement between

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Paramount and Skuydance. So at some
point they became friends, and of course

511
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things get hectic when this much money's
being thrown around. So at some point

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David just rings up Sherry's son,
Tyler and says, hey, man,

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00:37:29.880 --> 00:37:32.360
everything good, you need you know? How can we make this better as

514
00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:38.159
friends? And it seems that that
has realigned the track to continue forward with

515
00:37:38.199 --> 00:37:44.440
this Paramount Skuydance merger deal. Of
course, though with that one little hiccup

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in terms of family and friends getting
some things out of the way, there

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00:37:47.760 --> 00:37:52.079
are going to be some bigger problems
that Paramount and Skuidance should expect to face

518
00:37:52.440 --> 00:37:57.760
in the coming weeks. I mean, they're testing basically the DOJ's tolerance for

519
00:37:58.119 --> 00:38:01.480
big media consolidation. And we talk
a lot about antitrust law on this show,

520
00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:07.440
and this is a perfect example of
antitrust law coming into question because you

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know, you used to be able
to bring a story pitch to one studio

522
00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:14.880
and then they could give you some
notes, maybe say yes or no,

523
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and then bring it to other studios
and attempt to sell your idea or leverage

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00:38:19.679 --> 00:38:23.079
offers in an attempt to create an
idea into reality from the ground up.

525
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But now we're seeing that paramount and
s guidance coming together, We're going to

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00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:34.360
just have one one option when it
comes to pitching stories. That's going to

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00:38:34.400 --> 00:38:37.400
be huge. And then in addition
to that, people want to know exactly

528
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what this deal is going to look
like financially for a shareholder Sherry Redstone,

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because for someone who owns eighty percent
of the largest media company, what is

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that sale going to look like?
Who's going to facilitate the asset transfer of

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00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:53.719
that sale? And I think people
are definitely curious about where all that money

532
00:38:53.800 --> 00:38:57.679
is going and if it's the right
amount. Yeah, from what I'm saying,

533
00:38:57.719 --> 00:39:01.760
she has agreed to sell her majority
steak in paramount Global to a consortium

534
00:39:01.840 --> 00:39:07.639
led by sky Dance and the production
company. Yeah, basically helped by David

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00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:13.639
Ellison. But yeah, she's agreed
to sell her majority steak, So it's

536
00:39:14.280 --> 00:39:17.840
she's she's getting out, which is
smart either to take the money up way

537
00:39:17.920 --> 00:39:22.719
at this point exactly. I think
that if only the kid of the Red

538
00:39:22.760 --> 00:39:29.159
Box chief executive had a friend on
the inside who could have maybe helped them

539
00:39:29.159 --> 00:39:30.920
advise their parents to do the right
thing. I think. I think we're

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00:39:30.920 --> 00:39:35.280
seeing something very similar here, but
going maybe the better way for this family.

541
00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:38.880
Yeah, they if they choose not
to go with the sky Dance offer,

542
00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:43.559
they're gonna Paramount's going to have to
pay four hundred million dollars in the

543
00:39:43.599 --> 00:39:49.639
breakup. That's that's a lot of
money to pay for not doing something.

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00:39:51.079 --> 00:39:53.239
I mean usually that's the kind of
money you pay to have some kind of

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00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:57.239
action. Yeah, but this is
like, no, you're gonna you're gonna

546
00:39:57.239 --> 00:40:00.639
pay four hundred million dollars if you
don't do anything here. So yeah,

547
00:40:00.840 --> 00:40:02.920
I could see why they would be
taking that. It seems like they made

548
00:40:02.960 --> 00:40:07.639
the right choice. But we're gonna
have plenty of interesting stories to follow after

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00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:10.320
this merger gets further along in the
process, because I think we're going to

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00:40:10.360 --> 00:40:15.000
see a lot of people wonder if
this is the best idea for media,

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00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:17.280
if Paramount could have ever made it
on its own, and what this skuy

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Dance Paramount as they're calling it,
new Paramount is going to look like.

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One thing I can promise you is
that Paramount Plus and Pluto, the video

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00:40:25.679 --> 00:40:29.639
service that does have ads, they're
going to be just fine. So if

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00:40:29.679 --> 00:40:31.880
you're worried about your show on Paramount
Plus not happening for you anymore, you

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00:40:31.920 --> 00:40:35.599
can relax a little bit. You're
still going to have that. Yeah.

557
00:40:35.639 --> 00:40:37.639
No, I'm sure they're going to
try and keep all of those pieces together

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because that's Paramount Plus is solid.
I gotta give them credit. The stuff

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that they got is good. I'm
a fan of a lot of the streaming

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services, but that one, Max
and Netflix, those are my top three.

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Disney Plus occasionally flirts with me whenever
they have something there, and you

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00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:54.480
know me, I'm a shutterhead at
heart. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

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Real quick, Hollywood lost some legends
Richard Simmons, Shannon Door, and

564
00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:06.000
a personal legend for me was doctor
Ruth. I don't know, Nikki,

565
00:41:06.039 --> 00:41:08.159
I don't know if you've ever heard
of doctor Ruth or remember for me growing

566
00:41:08.239 --> 00:41:13.360
up, she was the like four
foot eight German woman who would talk about

567
00:41:13.400 --> 00:41:19.400
sex and the least sexually appealing person
you can imagine talking about some of the

568
00:41:19.400 --> 00:41:25.199
most sexually explicit stuff kind. She's
a legend and as a person who's got

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00:41:25.199 --> 00:41:30.079
a PhD in human sexuality, she's
a person that really left a mark on

570
00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:32.960
me when I was growing up too. So yeah, we'll be back next

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week with Joe Escalante live from Hollywood. He'll be coming back from Spain and

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00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:42.760
he'll be running away from the bulls
as we speak. Thank you so much,

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Nikki for all of your help and
all of this. This has been

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00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:47.559
great. We'll do this again next
week. Indeed, see you guys. Hi