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This is WWW Superstar Drew McIntyre,
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Show, the one that everybody wants
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the kurd State of w W everybody. We are back as always every Monday

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night at Table seventeenth, twenty twenty
three, and tonight we've got a bit

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of a different topic as we are
driving closer and closer to the Draft in

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just a couple of weeks. Anthony
DeMarco and I are back tonight to not

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just talk about the draft, but
kind of had of our own little fantasy

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draft where we're each gonna not necessarily
do a top five or top ten,

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but rather just look at Raw and
SmackDown and for both of us what we

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would do for kind of the foundational
pieces of each show. So I hope

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that's clear to everybody. It's not
gonna be a you know, he picks

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I pick kind of thing. It's
just he's gonna, you know, have

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his core on SmackDown and Raw.
I'm gonna have my cores for SmackDown and

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Raw and that kind of thing.
But Anthony, Welcome to the show.

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This should be a lot of fun. Yeah, it should be. Like

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I think draft time always sparks a
lot conversation, and it's almost like if

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you're watching sports, when the trade
deadline comes around or free agency opens,

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it always makes for good theater and
good entertainment. That's exactly what WWE is.

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It is quite self proclaimed as sports
entertainment, and I think when you

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bring in something like the draft,
where you could bring in some of that

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drama, you could, you know, bring some anticipation like who's gonna be

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wrestling on one night the other night, Red Blue all that. The way

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they market it, I think it's
great for stuff like this where you just

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want to talk wrestling, and when
you abide by the brand split rules one

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hundred percent, which we're gonna I'll
give them the benefit of the doubt that

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they will even though they don't deserve
it. But for the exercise of this

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show part me, we're gonna assume
that it will mean that it will come

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with fresh programs, fresh rivalries,
and maybe even some fresh new characters.

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That's exactly right where I mean that
that is what we're going to assume.

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I'm glad you brought that up that
you know as much as you and I

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have a massive concern, valid concern
that this is going to be a draft

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that WWWE violates within i'd say the
first month of them implementing the rules,

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we're gonna just just go with take
him and face value. They're going to

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adhere to their own rules. That
way, it makes this a little bit

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more fun because I think the biggest
benefit of the draft is it gives new

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guys more time to shine than they
otherwise would. It creates two separate worlds

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that allows you to kind of fantasy
book of massive matchups when oh my god,

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this you know somebody from Smackdowns on
Raw and actually have that make it

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feel like something that shouldn't happen.
So that, I mean, those are

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the I think some of the biggest
benefits. So we're gonna take those benefit.

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It's at face value, and I
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to you. So do you want
to touch on SmackDown or Raw first for

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your foundational pieces? I'll leave that
up to you. Well, I'm gonna

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go with the A show SmackDown.
And it's weird to say, right because

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it always felt like you would start
with Raw and then the rest would kind

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of fall into place. But I
don't think that there's any denying the fact

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fact that for the last two years
and maybe coming up on three years now,

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SmackDown has been the a show.
Like going all the way back into

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the Thunderdome during the pandemic era,
SmackDown has been the show to watch.

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And I think that's why you have
to just start first and foremost with the

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best show and professional wrestling right now. And I think that's fair to say.

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Even if you want to go to
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think SmackDown is the undisputed champion,
no unintended in terms of wrestling programming,

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So starting there, I think the
low hanging fruit is, yeah, you're

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keeping the bloodline on SmackDown. I
know maybe some people find it tired,

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but like they are pillars of SmackDown, they define SmackDown. It's like peanut

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butter and jelly. Obviously, we've
had them go to Monday and Night Raw,

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with Theo's having been the undisputed tag
champs and Roman Reigns being the undisputed

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champion for both shows, but I
think all in all, they are SmackDown

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guys. They predominantly live over on
SmackDown, So low hanging fruit to start

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off with. But the bloodline has
to stay on SmackDown. Yeah, and

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I'll you know, call you on
that. And I'm thinking of a poker

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reference, I will meet you,
I'll meet you your bat because I would

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agree with that. I mean,
not only are they the faces some of

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the faces major faces of SmackDown,
but I think also the Fox executives have

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a say in this, and I
think that they have a bit of an

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input in who they want on SmackDown, that is the a show. I

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would totally agree though, even if
Fox doesn't have a say or whatever that

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they should remain. I would draft
them to SmackDown. It just I don't

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think they would fit well on Raw. I just you know, you look

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forward to SmackDown because that is where
a lot of the bloodline progression of the

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stories continues and raws. If something
happens on Raw in a storyline with the

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bloodline, it's kind of a bonus
or unexpected. So SmackDown is just it's

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it's great, it's a it's a
great mix with the bloodline. I would

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agree. And to raise you and
see what your response is to this,

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I would I would actually move the
entire Judgment Day to SmackDown. I think

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the Judgment Day as an entire group, meaning Damian Priest, Dominic Masterio,

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Rea Ripley. Obviously she's the SmackDown
Women's Champion. Kind of makes sense that

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she would move to SmackDown and have
the entire group come to SmackDown. That's

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just my take. What do you
think? No, I think that's absolutely

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a good choice. And re Ripley
is the SmackDown Women's Champion, so makes

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sense. And you have those guys
really competing on SmackDown more times than not,

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like we saw this past week Damien
Priests versus Santos Escobar. That's a

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nice little rivalry going, and I
think that that's something that could freshen up

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the Judgment Day a bit. And
not that they haven't been good. They've

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been among the best programming on in
WWE right now, or among the best

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on WWE programming. I think that's
the better verbiage. But it feels like

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on Raw they've kind of run its
course. Maybe that's just because they've only

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been feuding with Edge predominantly, but
I could see them over on SmackDown and

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they kind of fit the bill there. But one guy I think a major

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addition that I would move over to
SmackDown because I think that the options are

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limitless over on the Blue brand would
be Bobby Lashley. What do you think

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about that? Oh that I thought
you're gonna say somebody else. Wow?

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Yeah, no. I So Bobby
Lashly right now is in a bit of

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a program with Bronson Reid and he's
you know, he's just trying to help

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create Bronson read to help him get
to that next level. This past week

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they had a double count out so
there was no winner. But I think

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that's not a bad option. You
could have him face Roman Reigns. I

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think that is a program that is
waiting to happen. Not that I don't

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think he'd dethroned Roman, but it's
a fun new program. And yeah,

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I mean Bobby Lashly needs kind of
a kick in the ass when it comes

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to his career, just kind of
a different thing to do. He's been

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getting a little stale on raw.
If they're not going to have the Hurt

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business get back together, because they
were then they weren't now I guess they're

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not. I don't know. Then
if he's a single entity coming over to

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SmackDown, he could really shake things
up. Yeah, I would agree.

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He's a really good addition to SmackDown, especially interacting with the bloodline. Well,

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since he returned to WWE in twenty
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Raw. He's never moved to SmackDown
in any of the draft, so I

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think it would really freshen him up, especially given the that if you go

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all the way back to two thousand
and five, he started on SmackDown.

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So I think that would be kind
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other pillar of SmackDown, both now
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this fantasy land of the draft is
Gunther and Imperium. And I think we've

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already talked about that we don't want
Gunther going anywhere right where he is on

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SmackDown. And imagine Gunther versus Boy
Lashley for the Intercontinental Championship. Wow,

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Yeah, I mean certainly you could. Yes, I mean to me,

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though, there's since I proposed that
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There's usually has to be a trade
of equal equal reaction the opposite way,

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and if I'm going to have the
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to Raw is kind of an equal
trade. It's close, It's close enough

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to make a case. Again,
though, I would agree that you have

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you have Gunther, who is the
biggest start in that group. Without a

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question. He could face Roman reins, as you said, he could face

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Bobby Lashly. But if we're gonna
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know, strip Raw and not give
back, then I would agree. But

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I mean, what would you do
with Imperium though? I would keep Imperium

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where they are, just because I
think they're They're so crucial to SmackDown.

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And I would probably send the brawling
brutes to the Monday Night Raw and along

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and along with the brutes, even
though he's not really a part of them,

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and assuming he stays in WWE,
I think you're sending Drew to Monday

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Night Raw as well, who probably
is in most desperate need of the brand

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split or the draft than anyone right
now. So to compensate for Lashly and

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the Judgment Day going over to SmackDown, I would have Drew and the brawling

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brutes going over to Monday Night Row. Do you think that would be a

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fair trade. Yes, I do, boy, I mean, I'm glad

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you brought up Drew because, I
mean, we've all heard the rumors.

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He's not happy. He blacked his
Twitter out. You know, it's the

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two seas cash and creative he's not
happy with. And there's been worries that.

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I mean, I don't know when
his contract is up, but I

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would imagine it's kind of coming close
to renewal time and that he wants out

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and all these things. Again,
we don't know, you know, what's

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true and what's not. But when
rumors tend to consolidate into a single narrative

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that he is wanting to get out, it's you know, it's something to

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consider. And where he'd go,
who knows. Of course, a aw

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seems to be the instant reaction people
have. But yeah, if he stays

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at WWE, I think that is
a fair trade of having him go to

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Monday at raw and get a kind
of a fresh start. Now, one

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name I can't believe. We haven't
talked about yet, but this has to

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happen. This is probably he'd be
a number one pick in my mind,

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and that's Seth Rollins. I mean
Seth Rollins coming to SmackDown is a slam

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dunk, is it not. Yeah, it's weird to say that because he

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has always been known as Monday Night
Rawles, and when he went to SmackDown,

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I believe in twenty twenty one,
during the pandemic era, it kind

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of felt forced and he was like
the second heel on Roman Reigns, and

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maybe that's why it didn't make a
whole lot of sense. He was living

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in Roman shadow, but at this
point he would be stepping up one on

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one two Roman Reigns, and I
think that Seth Rawns has kind of run

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his course someone in Night Raw in
a lot of ways. He's helped carry

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Monday Night Raw without a world championship. But you bring him over to SmackDown

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now as a baby face, rekindle
that rivalry that was never brought back up

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after they faced each other at the
Rumble in twenty twenty two. I think

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it is a slamdown because even now
you're looking at the SmackDown roster and they

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don't really have a top tier baby
Face. You know, you ran through

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Drew, you kind of ran through
Kevin Owens, but he's still on Monday

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Night Raw, Roman Reigns needs a
top tier baby face over on SmackDown.

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Amy Zane, You've been there,
done that. The last guy he faced

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as a Raw guy in Cody Rhodes. So you bring in seth Rawlins over

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to to SmackDown, you bring Bobby
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big time level baby faces, specifically
Rawlins, and you line up Roman Rains

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probably all the way into the fall
if you want to be honest, and

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the last guy, the last major
guy that I see maybe going to SmackDown

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and then we can maybe pivot to
Monday Night Raw here. But what about

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Randy Orton? Well, I guess
that depends where Riddle goes, because I

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think where Riddle goes, Orton will
follow, at least in the short term.

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Because that's that's a good point.
If if Randy Orton goes to SmackDown,

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boy, that I mean that seems
to leave Raw kind of high and

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dry, and we can look at
the potential stars I could come to Raw.

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We already talked about Drew. But
yeah, Randy Orton coming to SmackDown

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that almost seems like a lock too, only because how do we not get

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Randy Orton Roman Rains? And I
know we're still talking about Roman here.

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A lot of this is centering around
Roman and the guys that he could face.

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But I mean, let's call his
spadest bad. He's still the biggest

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thing in WW right now. And
Randy Orton coming back and facing Roman Reigns

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at some point, if you know
it's got to happen at some point this

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year, you'd imagine then he's got
to go to SmackDown. I mean,

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if they want that program, they've
got to do it, because if they

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go to Raw and then violate their
own rules again, we're not going to

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go there. They can't do it. So yeah, I mean, just

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for the Roman factor and the fact
that a year ago it's nearly been a

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full year that they took out Randy
to get his revenge, it makes sense.

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Raw high and dry, but like
in a lot of ways, you're just

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sending a lot of these established guys
over to SmackDown because there's so many untapped

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rivalries one on one with Roman Reigns
and Randy Orton rekindling what he had with

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seth Rawlins. He's never really cross
passed Bobby Lashly since they first competed in

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twenty eighteen when Roman Rains was still
the big dogs, so I don't even

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count that. Or actually he collided
a Remember that weird faction that Lashly had

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with Corbin and Drew McIntire that face
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nineteen. Yeah, I was a
lot. Yes, No, but they

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it's been at least four years since
they've stepped up to one another because they've

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both been on separate brands and now
Romans completely reinvented himself. Lashly is a

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two time world champion now like Roman
Reigns versus Bobby Lashly. If you're ever

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getting to that program, is that
not the best part of having a true

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brand split, when moments like this
finally come to be Yes, then see,

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it's exactly what this is supposed to
bring, the excitement of new matchups,

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shaking things up. Let's have two
separate worlds. Oh wow, we

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haven't seen Lashly and Roman yet.
This is gonna be a lot of fun.

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It's exactly one of the biggest fits
of SmackDown. Now, before we

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shift to Raw, I just have
to ask you about the women's division.

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Do you think we have any If
you could just pick one of the women

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coming to SmackDown. Who do you
think could be one of those women coming

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to SmackDown. I know we mentioned
Ria Ripley, she's a SmackDown Women's Champion,

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but do you see any other ones
outside of Riya? You know,

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maybe it's low hanging fruit, but
I'm thinking Becky Lynch because she's kind of

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gone in a bit stale one Monday
Night Raw. We haven't seen her versus

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Ria Ripley. She's been on Monday
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I want to say when she won
the championship or both championships at restume at

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thirty five, and she was the
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twenty sixteen, she was the first
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history as a big tie to the
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Lynch going to SmackDown on a fresh
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I think that's something that I would
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And it's also strengthened by the fact
that you have seth Rollins and Becky who

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are married and w W has been
keeping them together. It makes sense.

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They're you know, the travel plans, they're, you know, their child

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together, all that kind of thing. So I think wherever Becky goes,

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Seth follows, or rather vice versa. So yeah, I would I would

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think that it's a solid pick.
So all right, Monday net Raw,

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who is or what is one of
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No, we already mentioned Drew as
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honestly like And this goes aside from
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to stay there in terms of like
the current Pillars, I think Cody Rhodes

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and Austin theories stay right where they
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the Pillars, and Cody Rhodes presumably
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Night row, whether that's a new
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And I'm okay with that. Even
though not a Cody Rhodes fans, I

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do think he's proved that he has
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one of the biggest act wishes acquisitions
for Monday Night La Knight. He

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makes all the sense in the world
to go to Monday Night Raw. I

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think he would explode on Monday Night
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butt heads in terms of like they're
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play, but Raw has that extra
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here is that you could have La
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some way. And to be honest, it's only a matter of time before

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they turn Austin Theory baby face,
like if we're calling his fights like he's

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an up and comer. They brought
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should have, very Randy Orton esque. But maybe in a year or two

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you have a baby Face Austin theory
when he eventually and inevitably gets into that

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main event scene and La Knight could
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that role. For me, La
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and he screams Monday Night Raw to
me La Knight every week every time,

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might have a podcast. I just
can't I sing his praises. So I

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mean, I agree, l A
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it's close to a lock. I
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Raw And I tweeted this out,
but I think it's worth mentioning, not

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because I said it, but just
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LA Knight is. Think about how
over he is right now, the reactions

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he gets right now, and he's
won one match by distraction, like at

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the last three months, he's lost
every other match. He doesn't get as

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much promo time nearly as he should, he didn't even appear at all on

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WrestleMania, and yet he's still this
over. Imagine when ww WE actually decides

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to say, oh we should get
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they haven't even done anything with him
other than he gets decent he has good

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matches and he's with prominent stars,
but he loses and loses and loses and

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loses, no mic time, no
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So once the machine gets behind him, I think l A. Knight is

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going to skyrocket to stardom. And
that just that just shows you how untapped

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of potential he has right now.
And I'm really excited for l A.

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Night coming to Monday Night Raw and
on the heels of La Night. Do

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you think that and I think it's
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going to Monday Night Raw. That's
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because you have to send him to
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a bit because it just went so
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I think that organically he's always felt
like a SmackDown guy to me, bray

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Wyatt. That is both times he's
been a world champion, he's been a

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member on the SmackDown Brandon or actually
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it all took place on SmackDown.
But you have to freshen this up,

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and you know, maybe you bring
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with Drew McIntyre or Cody Rhoades.
We could get into maybe some other baby

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faces they could send over to Monday
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I think bray or No, he's
a he's a baby face. I think

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what is he? I forget he
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He's Yeah, they've never really established
him as a bit and anything. He's

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just kind of himself. But we've
always cheered him because he's so compelling,

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even when they were trying to push
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He's a he's a baby face.
Yeah yeah, So you bring him

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over to Monday and Night Raw.
You have Austin theory. Obviously you're not

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going to go down the road again
with um with La Night. In my

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opinion, another guy at the at
the lower end of the car that should

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switch to Mona a Raw would be
carrying a cross. So carrying cross versus

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bray White could be interesting if bray
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So yeah, I think bray White
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Night Raw because we just brought up
you're losing the star power and seth Rawlins

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and Bobby Lashley and I guess to
a lesser extent, who is the guy

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we just talked about on smack though, Randy Orton because he hasn't been there

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for so long, and presumatively Riddle
as well. You need something compensate for

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that. So again, assuming you
have them him on Monday Night Raw or

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all those guys on SmackDown, you
need bray Wyatt to compensate for that.

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And this is assuming that he's back
and healthy and ready to compete. Aside

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from that, And maybe this is
difficult because of where the bloodline would be

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placed, but you have to imagine
it's eventually coming to a head. Would

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you have Sammy Zane and Kevin Owens
as Monday Night Raw guys? I know

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they're unified tag team champions right now, are undisputed tag champs, which gives

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them the right to float between brands. But when they aren't champs, do

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you think they would be Raw guys
when they dissolve or when they disolve,

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when they get rid of those belts
and they're eventually losing them, probably in

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a few I would say Summer Slamm
with the earliest. Yeah, I think

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they should be because while they could
fight the bloodline forever, eventually they're going

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to need new opponents, and you
know, so, yes, I would

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have them on Monday Night Raw,
And I think that that gives Monday Night

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Raw more arsenal because I don't thing
that they're going to be long term tag

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a long term tag team. They
are single because competitors predominantly, and you

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split those two up on Monday Night
Rad, you give yourself so many other

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toys in the tool chest or whatever
the analogy is. But the small switch

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that I just suggested. I know
he hasn't done a lot since coming back

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to WW, but carrying cross like, I don't know why, but there's

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something about carrying cross that does intrigue
me. I'm not a huge Scarlet fan.

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The entrance is a bit too hokey, but there's something there with carrying

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cross. Is he a guy you
think that could benefit from brands of the

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draft? He's exactly the type of
performer that you would look at and say

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yes, because he's not somebody that
if there wasn't a draft there would whole

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get a whole lot of attention because
there's singular storylines running through both friends,

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which is, as we mentioned at
the top, one of the big benefits

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to guys that are up and coming
more time for people that otherwise wouldn't get

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So, yes, I think he
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I mean, I think what makes
it work. As as kind of gimmicky

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as he is and all all of
the crows and all the stuff that happens

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during his entrance, what makes it
really work for him is that he is

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believable on the microphone. He's got
he's got a realism about him. He's

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kind of got a bit of an
l. A Night factor in a way

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where I'd like to see those two
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another. They're both kind of in
the same position, although I put l

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A Night as a higher ceiling right
now. But he's got that kind of

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gravitas to him on the screen,
like you pay attention to what he has

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to say, even if it is
a little hokey. So yes, I

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would, I would say yes to
answer your question now, kind of rebounding,

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what about big Ee? Do you
think Biggie could be someone that they

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bring to raw that's so tough,
Like it feels so long ago that we

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saw Biggie. You know, I
feel like he's gonna go back, But

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the new day, it feels like
that's what they're gonna do. They're maybe

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just going to default back to what
they know. And I think maybe you

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keep him on SmackDown because maybe that
gives him because on SmackDown we're looking around,

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like I've heard it. You bring
up on the Weekend review him maybe

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going toe to toe with Imperium and
gone through for the Interconal Championship. If

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you have the judgment day over there, maybe that's another faction that it would

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seem that Smackdo would be pretty faction
heavy. So maybe it would be good

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to have the New Day over on
Monday Night Raw. But to me,

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the New Day again, maybe I'm
going too much based on history and just

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assuming that Biggie would be back in
the New Day, but they've always seemed

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more SmackDown to me, so I
think they would keep him there now.

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If they want to push him as
a single star again, then yeah,

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Monday Night Raw because of how open
Monday Night Raw would be in this fantasy

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draft world that we're talking about,
because on SmackDown, it would pretty much

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be laid out the main event scene
that is for the foreseeable future, because

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you'd have Roman as the champ with
seth Orton and Bobby Lashley waiting in the

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wings for that fresh type of matchup, and I think in the pecking order

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Biggie he would probably come forth on
that list. So yeah, if you're

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going to push him as a single
story, it would have to be on

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Raw. But if you're going to
put him back in the New Day,

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probably Unsmacked All. Yeah, that
it probably should have clarified because they've they

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kind of half asked his push as
a single star. Yes, he became

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champion, but even as champion,
he was every chance they got associating him

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at the New Day backstage or oh
it's a it's a pay per view,

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both brands are here, and these
you know, dancing like a fool to

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the to the trumpet with Xavier Woods
and all that. That really I think

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regressed his character and and and held
him back. So it depends if they

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want to just keep him with the
New Day for the rest of his life,

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which is seemingly what they want to
do, or if they actually want

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to give it a full real try
disassociate him from the New Day, make

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him his own dude and go for
an intercontinental or if he goes to raw

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the US title against Austin Theory,
Austin Theory needs a new guys to work

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with. I think Biggie and Austin
Theory would be a lot of fun.

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So yeah, that really is a
good question. Is what do they see

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Biggie doing. Is it's still with
the with with New Day, And actually

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I think, unfortunately, at least
in the short term, it probably is

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based on what's going on now on
SmackDown with Xavier Woods poking Imperium this past

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week. I think what's going to
happen is that we're going to have a

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cofee return and then oh, it's
three on two, and then here comes

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Biggie. Oh it's three on three, and it's New Day versus Imperium.

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I think that's coming, and they
planted the seed for that this past week

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on SmackDown. So maybe I answered
my own question. What about a guy

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like Braunstrom? Now, I know
that he hasn't really had any success in

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the way of the main event since
coming back. He is kind of a

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you know, an ass we could
say that, but in real life he's

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kind of showed himself to be kind
of a jerk. But I do think

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he is a valuable that you need
good big men who can work, and

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for his size, he's probably among
the best WW he has ever had.

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I still think it was a good
decision to bring him back. Has kind

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of found his home in the tag
team division alongside Ricochet. What would you

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do with bron stroman Would you keep
him where he is with Ricochet on SmackDown?

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Would you move him and Ricochet over
to Money a Raw? Would you

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make him a single star on either
particular brand. What would you do with

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a guy like bron Stroman. Yeah, for now, I mean I think

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he's got a little chemistry, He's
got a little something going with Ricochet.

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I mean again personal feelings aside about
him being actual d bag in person in

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real life, I mean, it
is what it is. But as far

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as on screen, yeah, I
mean I'm all for bolstering the tag team

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division that always seems to need hell, particularly with the women, but the

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men too. And I think that
you have Sammy's aiming Kevin Owens who were

402
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going to need opponents, even if
they're baby faces, they're gonna need opponents.

403
00:27:52.839 --> 00:27:56.599
And I think down the line you
could have broun Stroman and Ricochet if

404
00:27:56.640 --> 00:28:00.440
they're still a team, be able
to beat those next challengers in line or

405
00:28:00.519 --> 00:28:04.119
be contenders. I mean, if
you dissolve them, then you know,

406
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I think they're a nice baby face
tag team that doesn't have a lot of

407
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baby face tag teams going on.
I mean, they I think are a

408
00:28:12.599 --> 00:28:15.359
valuable asset even if they don't get
a whole lot of camera time. This

409
00:28:15.359 --> 00:28:18.759
past week, they were assaulted by
the Viking Raiders who kind of come in

410
00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:22.559
and out of relevancy. But I
would keep them together, you know,

411
00:28:22.680 --> 00:28:26.319
at least for the foreseeable future,
and if you want to move them to

412
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Raw after Backlash, then you know, so be it. I mean,

413
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I think, honestly, you could
do anything with them. I think they're

414
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very flexible. I mean, you
could have them on Raw, you could

415
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have them on SmackDown. But either
way, I would keep them as a

416
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team. That's exactly what bron Strow
and also Ricochet, what they are like,

417
00:28:41.839 --> 00:28:45.759
just because they're I guess made card
guys at best and could flirt with

418
00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:51.119
the Intercontinental or US title, although
bron Stroman had a half decent run as

419
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the Universal Champion during the COVID era. But I mean they're good utility guys

420
00:28:55.359 --> 00:28:57.680
like you need guys like that,
guys who that you could kind of plug

421
00:28:57.680 --> 00:29:03.799
and play tag team ic title picture
a lower card personal feud, like if

422
00:29:03.799 --> 00:29:07.440
you ever split broun Stroman from Ricochet, which is far down the line,

423
00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:10.559
because I completely agree that there's still
a lot of tread left on that tire

424
00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:14.759
in the tag team Like he's a
guy that like you could see him feuding

425
00:29:14.759 --> 00:29:18.000
with a guy like caring Cross at
the lower end of the of the of

426
00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:21.920
the card, like I remember,
just like a random feud from the ruthless

427
00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:26.039
Aggression era I really enjoyed for some
stupid reason. Was Jeane Snitzky versus Kane,

428
00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:30.839
Yes, or you know what I
mean, fault like just yeah,

429
00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:33.119
it wasn't my fault, punted the
baby into the into the crowd, like

430
00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:38.880
just a stupid rivalry of two big
men. But it worked, and I

431
00:29:38.920 --> 00:29:42.960
think, like caring cross Wass,
broun Stroman is something that could work in

432
00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:47.519
that regard and in a lot of
ways not as good obviously, but broun

433
00:29:47.640 --> 00:29:51.680
Stroman has kind of become the new
Cane in terms of what he means to

434
00:29:51.720 --> 00:29:55.319
that roster. Yeah, that's true. I didn't think of that at Algae,

435
00:29:55.640 --> 00:29:59.039
and all I could picture was with
Jeane Sisty punting the baby. Now,

436
00:29:59.039 --> 00:30:00.279
I mean, that's that's burned memory. Those of you that don't know

437
00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:03.119
what we're talking about, just go
back. I think it was like oh

438
00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:07.720
four somewhere around there. Yeah,
exactly, Oh my god, it wasn't

439
00:30:07.000 --> 00:30:12.200
my fault. Yeah, I mean, guys, this was a storyline over

440
00:30:12.279 --> 00:30:17.240
a miscarriage, all right, like
that, that's how far back this was,

441
00:30:17.279 --> 00:30:19.400
all right? Where it was it
was acceptable to talk about miscarriages on

442
00:30:19.559 --> 00:30:23.519
Raw, I mean and and many
other things. Anyway, Yes, I

443
00:30:23.559 --> 00:30:27.519
mean, I think that's a good
analogy, and I think that having as

444
00:30:27.519 --> 00:30:30.359
you said and as I said,
I think you could make these two guys

445
00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:33.680
anything you need them to be.
And it's okay that they you don't think

446
00:30:33.720 --> 00:30:38.079
of them as defined roles anywhere,
because you need guys that can do these

447
00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:41.359
kinds of things in phil roles as
you need them. They can be singles.

448
00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:44.720
You could put them as a tag
team for now. I'd keep them

449
00:30:44.720 --> 00:30:47.759
as a tag team, but they
could split easily and and go off on

450
00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:51.839
their own again. And I think
that's a valuable thing to have, even

451
00:30:51.880 --> 00:30:53.799
if you don't look at them and
goal they're definitely this or definitely that.

452
00:30:53.960 --> 00:30:57.119
I think it's okay. Um.
But as we kind of wrap this up,

453
00:30:57.119 --> 00:31:00.119
two big names I want your your
take on. We don't need to

454
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:03.680
go super in depth, but two
big legacy stars we haven't talked about,

455
00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:10.319
brock Lesner and Edge. Where would
you put them? Honestly? Probably both

456
00:31:10.359 --> 00:31:12.480
on Monday Night Raw, Edge,
just because he has to get as far

457
00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:17.119
away from the judgment as humanly possible. For all I care you could put

458
00:31:17.160 --> 00:31:22.400
him on NXT at this point where
the defunct a W just because he has

459
00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:27.000
to be far away. And Brock, I just think that he's always been

460
00:31:27.119 --> 00:31:30.759
Monday Night Raw since he returned,
you know. And that's weird to say,

461
00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:34.720
because back in the Ruthless Aggression error
he was the face of SmackDown.

462
00:31:36.200 --> 00:31:40.839
Him and Curt Angle like single handedly
made SmackDown of relevant standalone brand in a

463
00:31:40.839 --> 00:31:45.839
lot of ways. But I just
think both of those guys are Raw guys,

464
00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:52.839
and it's weird, but it seems
that more often than not, the

465
00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:56.279
legacy guys just kind of live on
Monday Night Raw. Like look at John

466
00:31:56.319 --> 00:32:00.680
Cena. He was originally drafted SmackDown
in and he's sixteen, and then as

467
00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:05.759
soon as he became part time and
moved into that legacy role, he just

468
00:32:05.839 --> 00:32:08.559
kind of like morphed into exclusively to
Raw. No. He shows up on

469
00:32:08.599 --> 00:32:12.680
SmackDown from time to time when he
had the match, the tag match with

470
00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:15.519
the O Wins against the Bloodline around
New Year's Eve or whatever it was.

471
00:32:16.240 --> 00:32:20.720
But it just feels maybe it's the
extra hour, maybe it's the lineage of

472
00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:22.880
Monday Night Raw. I don't know
what it is, but I just kind

473
00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:27.519
of default the same Monday Night Raw, and at this point in their career,

474
00:32:27.799 --> 00:32:30.359
I feel like Edge and Braw kind
of belong on Raw. I would

475
00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:35.440
agree. I mean again, the
biggest reason is since Judgment Day is,

476
00:32:36.000 --> 00:32:38.119
I mean, Judgment Day is going
to SmackDown. I just I think that's

477
00:32:38.160 --> 00:32:44.640
a very solid decision to make,
or rather solid prediction. And yeah,

478
00:32:44.720 --> 00:32:46.640
Edge needs to get the hell away, getaway. You can't be on the

479
00:32:46.680 --> 00:32:51.960
same brand. I would absolutely agree
that you're going to keep Edge on Raw,

480
00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:54.000
which again, he shows up every
three months, and I actually believe

481
00:32:54.039 --> 00:32:58.000
he'll extend his career to Rossimania forty
and probably call it a career there.

482
00:32:58.400 --> 00:33:04.240
But yeah, Raw is kind to
where the big stars that return live and

483
00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:07.440
when they make that return, Raw, even though it's not, they call

484
00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:10.799
it a flagship show. Yet SmackDown
gets better ratings and is better, the

485
00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:15.480
better overall show. Raw is sometimes
viewed or still viewed by management, and

486
00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:20.279
I'm sure Vince, to whatever extent
is it's kind of kind of their baby.

487
00:33:20.279 --> 00:33:22.960
It's their firstborn. It's been around
longer, it has more, it

488
00:33:23.079 --> 00:33:27.359
has more history, all this than
that. But SmackDown is clearly the better

489
00:33:27.400 --> 00:33:29.480
show. But I would agree.
I mean, Brock should should stay on

490
00:33:29.599 --> 00:33:32.440
Raw and we have because we don't
need Brock and Rollan interacting at all.

491
00:33:34.319 --> 00:33:37.359
I don't think there's any need for
that, and uh yeah, I would

492
00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:39.240
agree with that. So all right, well, I mean there's so much

493
00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:43.400
more we could talk about with especially
the women's division. We didn't talk a

494
00:33:43.400 --> 00:33:45.960
whole lot about that, with potentially
where Charlotte Flair goes, or Ron and

495
00:33:46.039 --> 00:33:50.720
Rousey wherever the hell she is,
where you know, wherever they go.

496
00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:52.519
But you know, hey, maybe
we could do a part two next week

497
00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:55.960
as we get closer to money at
Raw and SmackDown. That will have the

498
00:33:57.039 --> 00:34:00.440
draft in a couple of weeks.
But before we go, let everyone know

499
00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:07.400
your latest show and when it drops. Yes. So last week my triumphant

500
00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:10.599
return after a two week hiatus because
of WrestleMania and then made losing Power for

501
00:34:10.599 --> 00:34:15.679
almost three days, but I covered
the rumble from two thousand and five.

502
00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:21.519
It actually stemmed from you watching the
A W or a W the A n

503
00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:24.480
E. I almost said a n
WF for that, the an eu WW

504
00:34:24.760 --> 00:34:30.480
rivals between Triple H and Batista and
that kind of point in time, and

505
00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:37.480
obviously the hilariousness of Shane McMahon and
Triple H and Vince McMahon tearing all of

506
00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:43.199
their quads and the funniest of all
or the infamous of all, Vince mcmah

507
00:34:43.679 --> 00:34:47.360
happening at the Royal Rumble oh five
and going back and covering that all the

508
00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:52.960
rivalries and storylines intertwined into that one
pay per view was crazy. Like we

509
00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:59.960
talked about SmackDown versus Raw and seeing
guys face off against one another who never

510
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:02.519
a cross pass before and how special
it feels. And the Rumble oh five

511
00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:07.559
was the dawn of the curd Angle
Sean Michael's rivalry that we came to know

512
00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:12.440
as one the best of the ruthless
Aggression era. You know, arguably won

513
00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:15.960
the best matches in the history of
ww of WrestleMania at Wrestling at twenty one,

514
00:35:16.199 --> 00:35:21.559
and obviously you have the unplanned finish
which turned into one of the most

515
00:35:21.599 --> 00:35:27.719
historic finishes in WWE history in terms
of the Royal Rumble, and then Batista

516
00:35:27.800 --> 00:35:31.239
going on to win that Rumble,
going on to culminate one of the best

517
00:35:31.320 --> 00:35:36.440
told stories in wrestling history in my
opinion with him and Triple H. So

518
00:35:36.519 --> 00:35:40.599
yeah, just an overall fantastic pay
per view and next or this coming week,

519
00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:46.440
I will finally be covering JBL's ww
Championship run on SmackDown and during the

520
00:35:46.480 --> 00:35:51.360
twenty fourteen, thousand and five era. Awesome. Now, that is a

521
00:35:51.400 --> 00:35:53.679
great topic, Roal Rumble of five, one that if you live through it,

522
00:35:53.760 --> 00:35:57.039
you'll never forget it. Even if
it was where a silly moment of

523
00:35:57.119 --> 00:36:01.039
Vince and him. The best part
about it was of him hitting his legs

524
00:36:01.039 --> 00:36:04.000
and he didn't feel like it looked
like he was in any pain. But

525
00:36:04.039 --> 00:36:06.199
then when he tried to stand,
it's one of the funniest things you'll ever

526
00:36:06.239 --> 00:36:08.679
see with him trying to stand with
just just like totally buckle in, like

527
00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:12.960
sitting there. It's just so funny. Um. But outside of that,

528
00:36:13.199 --> 00:36:15.639
you know, outside of the silliness, yes, I would agree, very

529
00:36:16.039 --> 00:36:21.360
kind of a culmination point for a
lot of different programs that led to WrestleMania

530
00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:24.920
that year, WrestleMania It's twenty one. Totally a great topic. And of

531
00:36:24.920 --> 00:36:29.199
course, as you mentioned this coming
week with JBL and his title run that

532
00:36:29.480 --> 00:36:35.199
lasted ten months, was at that
time it felt like infinity and yet now

533
00:36:35.239 --> 00:36:38.559
we look back and we're like ten
months Hey, then, what's that.

534
00:36:38.559 --> 00:36:42.440
That's like a blink of an eye
compared to Roman's run. Um, but

535
00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:46.760
what a great wrestling it really,
it really was. I mean, even

536
00:36:46.760 --> 00:36:51.719
though you had Rock and Austin gone
at that point in one Dude injury one

537
00:36:51.800 --> 00:36:54.280
Dude to Hollywood, you had their
two biggest stars gone, It's still was

538
00:36:54.519 --> 00:36:59.239
just it was the peak of ruthless
aggression. I think you still had Brock

539
00:36:59.320 --> 00:37:02.880
in there. Well, actually Brock
left and Old four Yeah yeah, yeah,

540
00:37:02.880 --> 00:37:07.119
Brock just left two so uh yeah, but you still had HBK,

541
00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:09.000
you had Triple H, right,
you had Chris Ben while you mean,

542
00:37:09.039 --> 00:37:14.920
you had some amazing wrestlers and uh
yeah, so good topics. Looking forward

543
00:37:14.920 --> 00:37:19.159
to this coming Friday, and uh
I'm sure we will be talking next week

544
00:37:19.199 --> 00:37:22.199
as we get closer to the draft. Looking forward to it. Man,

545
00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:25.599
have a good week, you too. Bye. Thanks for listening to the

546
00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:31.360
w w E Podcast. Don't forget
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547
00:37:31.480 --> 00:37:37.599
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548
00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:43.599
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549
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