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Sword and Scale contains adult themes and
violence, and is not intended for all

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audiences. Listener discretion these advice.
Do you remember seeing No, no,

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no, we understand where you're upset
because of what you saw. We found

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some of that yesterday. We've seen
it too, and it's horrible. Oh

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boy, it's time for some more
murder stories. You're sick. Fuck.

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This is swordin Scale, episode two
hundred and sixty six. He's eleven.

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Here we go. So I'm sure
you've heard by now about swords Gell Television,

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and now we have something new coming
up this month. It's season two

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of Sword and Scale Nightmares. If
you have not had a chance to listen

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to Swordscale Nightmares yet, listen to
it you might enjoy it. It's True

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Crime for bedtime, basically what we
do here the stories that you all have

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come to know and love, you
weirdos, but without the clips, without

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the nine one one jarring call that
will wake you out of your slumber.

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So you can actually put this on
with a pair of earbuds and what do

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they call the airbuds whatever and go
to bed. A lot of people listen

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to True Crime before going to sleep. Yeah, like I said, sick

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Fox, about one hundred miles north
of Casper, Wyoming, is a moderate

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sized city known for being quote the
energy capital of the nation. The city's

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actual name is much less interesting.
It's Gillette. Gillette, Wyoming produces and

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distributes more coal than any other city
in the United States, and is also

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a significant contributor of crude oil in
methane gas. As a developer of these

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things, Gillette is an attractive place
for people looking to make a lucrative and

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honest living. If you're willing and
able to work a strenuous, blue collar

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job, there's good money to be
made in Gillette. For many years,

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thousands of men and women have taken
advantage of the employment opportunities that Gillette offers.

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Is often the case, when a
city attracts a lot of people,

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it also attracts a lot of crime. To combat that crime, this city

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depends on the Gillette Police Department and
the Campbell County Sheriff's Office. Back in

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mid October of twenty sixteen, two
deputy investigators at the Campbell County Sheriff's Office

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were hard at work questioning a young
woman named Kylie Collins. What don't you

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get well, you told me,
Well, you saw someone reported that at

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my house or whatever. So I
feel like you guys know stuff in your

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withholding stuff for me. Well,
I mean that's true. We do know

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things that we're not going to tell
you. We're concerned about these guys who

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were missing and trying to locate them
and find out exactly what happened there.

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The reason that Kylie was being questioned
was because about five weeks before this interview

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took place, two young men who
were last seen in Gillette had been reported

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missing by their respective family members.
One of those two men was thirty three

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year old Philip Brewer. Philip was
a Wyoming native who lived and worked in

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Gillette. He was a father of
two young sons who made a hard earned

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living by working on an oil field. Philip liked to fish and ride snowmobiles.

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He was an avid outdoorsman who was
considered by his family to be a

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kind and caring guy. Sadly,
in September of twenty sixteen, Philip seemingly

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dropped off the face of the earth
and nobody could reach them. Eventually,

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Philip was reported missing, and this
led police to question his girlfriend shall Be

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Warren. Did you guys start dating
King Classia. When ream Philip started dayton

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we went up and stayed with Tony
in Helena, Montana in February. Philip

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had lots of friends, but he
was closest to his childhood friend, Jody

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Fortuna, who happened to be the
other young man that police were searching for.

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Like Philip, thirty eight year old
Jody loved the fish, He was

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a rare rock collector, and he
enjoyed the outdoors. Jody was a self

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employed general contractor, and his work, along with the advice of his family,

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led him to settle down in Helena, Montana. This move from Wyoming

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to Montana put about five hundred miles
between him and Philip, but that didn't

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stop two friends from seeing each other. They'd often make week long trips to

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hang out and visit each other.
Philip and Jody were close, they were

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like brothers. Philip considered Jody to
be his best friend, but so did

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someone else. Jody also remained close
friends with his other childhood friend, Mike

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Montano. I mean, I know
that Mike Jody, I can't hardly know

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that because they've been best friends forever. Jody was Mike's best friend and Jody

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was Phillip's best friend. So I
realized, I probably just threw a bunch

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of names at you, and your
brain is buzzing, so it might be

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a little bit difficult to follow.
So let's just recap for one moment.

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Two guys go missing. Their names
are Philip Brewer and Jody Fortuna. Philip

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was dating a woman named Shelby Warren, the woman you just heard being interviewed,

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and Jody had a friend named Mike
Montano. Got it, Probably not,

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but let's keep going. About a
day or so before Philip and Jody

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went missing, Philip and his girlfriend
Shelby were driving around Gillette when they ran

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into Mike Montano. According to Shelby, Mike told them Jody was coming to

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visit all of them from my first
drive and he said, hey, Jody's

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on his way down here. I'll
be here in an hour. I got

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a job and he called Jody to
help him with it, like a three

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day job. He said it was
okay. When the police questioned Mike Montana,

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he confirmed much of what Shelby had
told them. Mike explained that Jody

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was his closest friend and that Jody
had come to Gillette within days of his

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disappearance. Mike also explained that he
wasn't a big fan of Philip and didn't

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particularly like being around him. So
Jody'd gone around Jelett for a while.

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He was coming back and worth all
the time, maybe before he went back

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to his month in Joy's box,
being close on. And I didn't like

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Philip after a few times, because
he just said again. The friendship dynamics

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that Mike explained to police were consistent
with what Shelby had already told him.

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Jody was Mike's best friend and Jody
was Phillip's best friend. Everybody liked Jody,

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Jody had lots of best friends,
but Mike and Philip they didn't like

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each other at all. Get alone, no, no, no, they

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were like friend of these. The
first time Jody brought Mike around, the

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him and Philip agreed that they were
going to fight, but that they were

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going to, you know, one
of these days that we're going to throw

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down, and they were good with
that. They just mutually knew that when

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they were around each other, I
didn't really like each other. Yeah,

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putting things mildly. The relationship between
Mike, Phillip and Jody was unusual.

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There was a lot of built in
tension between Mike and Philip, but that

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wasn't the only thing that made things
volatile. You see, these three guys

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had a habit of sleeping with each
other's girlfriends, who, of course to

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each other, he's with my friend
wants kids that Rob grew up there like

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that, for lack of a better
phrase, Jody, Mike, and Philip

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swapped women, and none of them
actually ever really checked in with each other

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to make sure this was okay.
Even Shelby admitted that in addition to dating

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Philip, she'd also hooked up with
Mike. You ever day, Jody,

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every day? Mike? Sure,
yeah, Pause there a minute. Despite

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this weird behind the back woman swapping
thing, whatever you want to call it,

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Jody and Mike maintain their friendship.
They grew up together and considered themselves

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brothers. It's that weird thing young
men do. Boys really, as they're

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trying to figure out who they are, they formed these relationships where it's not

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real, but they have a sort
of camaraderie of sorts, a bond that

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can't be broken, or so they
thought. In twenty fifteen, Mike met

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and began dating a young woman named
Kylie Collins, and before long, Mike

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introduced Kylie to Jody. In December
of that year, Mike and Kylie took

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a trip to Montana and spent a
few days at JODI's house. He showing

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me into coming out there, not
where to Montana Jody did. Yeah,

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Hollow, were up there only a
week, but Jody was still fucking.

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He was being fake, Okay,
he was just get me up there to

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get back any because he thought it
fucked his girlfriend. H Jody had this

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plan. He told me too,
because he thought I fucked his girlfriend.

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He was conferienced fucked mine. According
to Myke, when Jody invited him and

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Kylie to come visit, Jody fully
intended to sleep with Kylie and he eventually

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did just that. He made me
a drink, and that's the last thing

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I remember. He made me because
we drink Crowning Coke, but now I

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changed to crown and set up.
He gave me a drinking. I drink

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it and for my fucking a whole
day, I was out. When I

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woke up from that, I fucking
Kylie was like, I don't know,

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she was super high and just fucking
act him where as fuck, Well,

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anyway, he fucking come friend,
and I was loved Kylie and then I

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was like, fucking dude, you
figure figure out me, then that's fine.

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We're going. We're done. Mike
claim that Jody spiked his drink and

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while Mike was passed out, Jody
and Kylie slept together. When Mike came

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to, he suspected that they had
sex, and he was pretty pissed off

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about it, but he didn't say
anything or make any accusations. Why rock

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the boat, I guess from there, Jody only made things worse by taunting

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Mike. Jody supposedly wore a T
shirt that read Relax It's just sex a

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smart ship and worried it relaxes just
sex. Needless to say, Mike wasn't

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having the best time at Jody's,
so he and Kylie packed up their belongings

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and headed back to Wyoming. Kyie
fuck, either she realized that she suckered

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or whatever, or she's part of
it and she felt bad or something.

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This is an awkwardy, so we
went back home. Despite what happened in

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Montana, the relationship between Jody and
Mike seemed to weather the storm after a

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short period of no contact, Jody
and Mike reconnected in their bonds seemingly remained

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intact. I suppose this is the
first ignored red flag, or at least

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one of them. A friend sleeps
with your girlfriend and you say nothing about

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it and just pretend like nothing happened. Yeah, I'm sure everything's gonna be

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fine, just fine. But for
Mike, he just couldn't discount the friendship

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they'd built as children. I mean, you make a lot of poor decisions

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as children, but I guess he
just didn't want to come to terms with

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that again. Mike claimed that they
were like brothers, already like brothers and

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said things like brothers but never visit
or never noting that mom even those and

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Jody's mom and Jody's family pretty much
took care of me when my family was

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fucked up. Right. In September
of the following year, it was Jody's

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turn to do the traveling, and
Mike invited Joey to Wyoming. Mike told

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Jody that in addition to visiting,
Mike also had a three day contracting job

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for Jody that would pay well.
So Jody packed up his work here and

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made the seven hour drive from Helena, Montana to joe Let, Wyoming.

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When Jody arrived, he and Mike
quickly linked up with Philip and Shelby.

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Jody showed up, we started drinking, so all of us went out.

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We started drinking there and then we
went up to the bar. So you

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say all of us as you me
Philip, Jody, Mike. That night,

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Philip, Jody, Mike, and
Shelby went to their local casino,

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the Sun Dance Lounge, where they
continued to drink and party. We went

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down to the Sunnets, shot a
couple of games the pool. We had

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a few drinks. We were drinking
like we're having to get to the bar

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and everything we need the bar.
We went Joey's house. We just together

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because you Shelby, Julian Philip Piata. We left went to my house where

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they proceeded to drink some Bacardi okay
by having their little bro man sting.

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And after a few games of pool
and a lot more drinks, this foursome

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went to Shelby's house where they continued
to drink even more. Things got pretty

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rowdy among the guys as the testosterone
started to flare along with the drama.

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Mack Schell's and Joey stars dreaming Accardi
went did g One, Jerry started acting

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really fucking weird, like Jody knew
I fi fu okay. According to Mike,

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the interactions between him and Jody became
awkward as the topic of Mike's girlfriend

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came up. Meanwhile, Shelby and
Phillips started arguing about all the money they

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just spent at the casino. So
he picked a fight with me that he

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has before and still been drinking,
and we're still fighting. He left and

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Jody followed him. They stood up
to Mike's I'm guessing what make should think

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that well, because I was spying
on him thereafter, and I think that's

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what the Tahoe and Jody's car was. Andre Weiler, Mike, Phillip,

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and Jody left Shelby's house and headed
towards Mike's mobile home. At least that's

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what Shelby assumed and tried to confirm
when she drove to Mike's trailer park later

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that night. Shelby claimed that she
saw Jody's car park near Mike's mobile home,

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so she knew that Philip and Jody
must be there and decided to just

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go home for detectives that seemed kind
of weird. I mean, why go

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there just to turn around and go
home. The cops couldn't just take Shelby's

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word for it, because this was
the last night that anyone saw Jody and

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Philip. In fact, both men
had been missing for over a month,

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and in all likelihood, this was
probably the last night that Jody and Philip

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were alive. Despite the efforts by
police and the interviews they conducted, the

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question of what happened to Philip and
Jody remained unanswered for quite a while.

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But in mid October of twenty sixteen, something happened that revealed their fate.

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The Gillette Police Department received a report
of a strange black pickup truck that was

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parked on the road on the northern
edge of their city. When an officer

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arrived on scene to investigate, he
noticed an overwhelming smell coming from the truck.

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The smell was unmistake makeable. It
was rotting flesh. The officer hoped

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that this truck belonged to a hunter
and he was only going to find a

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rotting deer carcass in the bed of
the pickup, But the officer wasn't so

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Lucky. Instead, he found Philip
Brewer and Jody Fortuna, but he didn't

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find all of them. He only
found a few chopped up pieces. In

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early September twenty six, thirty eight
year old Jody Fortuna and his childhood friend,

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thirty three year old Philip Brewer were
reported missing by their respective family members.

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According to Phillip's girlfriend, Shelby Warren, she last saw Philip and Jody

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at her home in Gillette, Wyoming. When questioned by police, Shelby explained

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that she'd been drinking pretty heavily with
Philip, Jody, and their mutual friend

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Mike Montano that night. The collective
intoxication led to Philip and Shelby getting into

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an argument, and Philip ended up
leaving Shelby's house, as did Jody and

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Mike. Shelby assumed that they all
went to Mike's mobile home, and her

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assumption was pretty much confirmed when she
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that night. As she did this, she saw Jody's car park nearby and

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went home, or so she claimed. When police questioned Mike about this,

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he confirmed that Philip and Jody had
gone back to his home, that n

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but from there he couldn't recall much
of what had happened. Everyone was really

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drunk, and Mike claimed that when
he got home he just passed out.

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So what happens at your house?
You guys cant do a big fight?

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No? No, if I don't
straight up black the fuck out. Mike

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also claimed that when he woke up
the next morning, Philip and Jody were

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both gone and he didn't know where
they went. Joey's solf was gone,

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they were gone, and then just
from there the fuck up weirdo. As

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for Shelby, she told police that
the last time she spoke to Philip was

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at her house, but this wasn't
the last known contact that Philip had with

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someone. In the early morning hours
of the next day, Philip apparently called

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a friend and explained to them that
he and Shelby were fighting. The main

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reason for the call was that Philip
was looking for a place to stay.

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My girlfriend, Crystal has told me
since then that Philip called her at five

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point thirty and as her she was
in Casper if he could come to stay

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with her, telling me and her
were fighting, and that was the last

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year as far as everyone knew,
this was the last time that anyone heard

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from Philip, but it may not
have been the last sighting of him or

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Jody. A few days later,
Shelby drove to Mike's trailer park with a

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friend and they supposedly saw two men
on or near Mike's porch, though neither

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Shelby nor his friend could be sure
that these men were Philip and Jody.

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And when we drive by there,
we can see from the road and we

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seen two and I guess they're guys
running out of Mike's house, Like I

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remember one jumping off the stairs,
you know what I mean, not to

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used to jumping off. And I
want to say. They didn't have shirts

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on either, And we thought it
was Philip and Joky. Why I should

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think that, Like, I can't
see that far anyway, And Benny said,

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oh, there they are. No, Benny doesn't know for sure either,

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and I'm like, well, I
don't want to talk about the Philip

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star. I'm not going there,
So we just kept driving. Up to

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this point, Shelby's story was mostly
consistent with Mike's, but after Philip and

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Jody disappeared, their respective versions of
events started to conflict. Mike told police

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that after he woke up from their
night of drinking, Philip and Jody were

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just gone and he had no idea
where they went. But according to Shelby,

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Mike knew a lot more than he
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many days it had been until Mike
came to talk to me again. And

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I believe he came to the house, my house to talk to me because

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I wanted to know so one I
think, so yeah, something like that.

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He tells me that Philip and Jody
took some guns of his to go

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sell them, so he gave him
some guns they went to go sell them,

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and he hasn't heard from him since. Shelby accepted the explanation that Mike

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gave her, but after a few
more days went by, Mike flipped the

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script on Shelby and started accusing her
of knowing where Philip and Jody were.

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Mike, he's coming around thinking that
making me. He accuses me of knowing

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talking to him, knowing where they
are. You know, I'm like,

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Mike, I seriously haven't talked to
him. I don't know what's going on.

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He thinks that he's making me think
that they burned him and are off

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doing something right, what have you
seen? Mike doesn't have normal. After

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Jody en Philip went missing, like, I started getting scared because Shelby and

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this, He started fucking saying like, I'm like, you know what happened?

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And she had like I mean yeah. On September seventeenth, twenty sixteen,

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Philip and Jody had been missing for
just over a week, and it

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was around this time that Shelby started
to become very concerned, mainly because the

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seventeenth was her birthday and she knew
that, despite any arguments she and Philip

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were having, Philip would never let
this day pass without at least giving her

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a call. So my birthday was
September seventeenth, So that day came and

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I know Philip again, and then
then I kind of knew. That's when

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it kind of starts to really hit
me too, that there's something else wrong.

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There's something. And then Joni's mom
gets a hold of me. She's

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worried about it. She contacts me. I don't have no information for her,

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and it gets quiet again. You
know, I don't really hear from

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Mike for a while. More days
passed and no sign or content tact with

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Philip or Jody. Their respective family
members started to worry, and eventually missing

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persons reports were filed for both men, though Jody's mom wasn't satisfied with leaving

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the investigation solely in the hands of
police, so she decided to drive from

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Montana to Gillette. Her plan was
to question both Shelby and Mike. Jody's

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mom comes down here, and because
I told her too that I think Mike

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knows more the way he's telling us, and that she needed to, you

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know, look at Mike, she
spends a day here, goes out to

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Mike, hum won't answer the door
for her, So I meet up with

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her and take her to Old Chicago
and we corner Kylie. Then all of

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a sudden, Mike answers the phone
and he says he'll meet with Jody's mom.

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In an attempt to reach Mike,
Shelby and Jody's mom found and briefly

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questioned Mike's girlfriend, Kylie Collins.
As they were doing this, Mike suddenly

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became available to meet with JODI's mom. Though, when JODI's mom finally met

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with him, Mike convinced her that
he knew nothing about her son's whereabouts and

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that she should be directing her questions
and accusations at Shelby. She calls me

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to tell me that she's leaving.
She's talked to Mike. He doesn't know

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anything. She's like, you were
the last one to see them, you

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know, and kind of made me
feel like I was suspect, right,

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But I knew that Mike has that
kind of effect on people, especially he

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was like a sender her. What
do you think of it? I think

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that Philip was already drink drinking and
on one when he when they got up

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to Mike because we're fighting. I
think that I know Mike's always had a

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gun, what kind of gun?
Hand gun? That Philip was probably drunken

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on one and Nae either got into
an altercation that way, If there was

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an altercation between Philip and Mike,
I think Jody would have tried to break

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it up and got caught in the
middle. By October fifth, Jody and

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Philip had been missing for over a
month, and Shelby had supposedly assumed the

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worst. She suspected that Mike had
killed both of them, and that he

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may have been plotting this double murder
for some time, as far as three

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day. Jacos that Mike had Jody
come down for and then we find out

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there is no three day job.
That's what Mike told him. I think

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Mike leurbed Jody down here and told
him he had a job for him.

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And when he got here and it
was no job, Shelby claimed to have

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suspicions about Mike, and in turn, Mike had plenty of suspicions about Shelby.

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Bear with me here because this is
where the story starts to get a

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little outlanded. Yeah, yes,
I said starts. Mike believed that Shelby

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was a drug dealer and at Philip
and Jody were working with her, he

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suspected that all three of them were
involved in some sort of elaborate smuggling operation,

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and whatever business they were doing together, they weren't letting Mike in on

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it. And then when they figured
learned that Joy, Shelby and all they

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were like in bed together, you
know, Joe, Shelby, Wills,

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and they were all secret in about
the relationship. They were all secret about

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basically, and the way they were
being it was like there leaning up to

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something. And I can't say that
she's not talking about that anytime I ever

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fucking needed something run something. She
had it. She's such a fucking dominating

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weird bitch. She has to know
everything going on. It's creamy about Una

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told me that fucking Jal's the social
path, that this is what his nace

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is like. It was Sard become
more realistic, you know what I mean

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as Ken's carrier's caring. By October
ninth, twenty sixteen, Jody and Philip

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had been missing for almost forty days, but it was on this day that

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they were finally found, at least
some pieces of them were. The local

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police and Gillette received a report of
a pickup truck that was parked on the

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northern edge of the city. The
truck reportedly smelled like rotting flesh, and

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when officers arrived on the scene,
they confirmed that the information they received was

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accurate. There was, indeed a
very stinky pickup truck parked on the side

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of the road. When officers opened
the bed of the pickup truck, they

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found two plastic tots, and inside
those tots, well, what do you

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think, yeah, several dismembered body
parts. This was the moment that the

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fate of Philip Brewer and Jody Fortuna
was revealed. Both men were dead and

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had been chopped into pieces. Tragically, this information did not stay within the

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walls of the Gillette Police Department for
long. The news of the gruesome discovery

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quickly leaked to the families of Philip
and Jody, and they learned about their

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loved one's death and the state of
their bodies through social media and various news

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outlets. What followed was years of
hardship for the families as they struggled with

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the reality that their loved one's bodies
had been mutilated. Many of you have

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rand and heard about a double homicide
Angelett Way, which was first recorded in

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early October twenty sixteen. My younger
brother, Philip grew wearing his childhood friend

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Tony Furtuna were brutally murdered. The
victims' bodies were not recovered until October eighth

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and ninth. These bodies of these
two men were mutilated and stored in plastic

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toads and the back of up cup
truck for over four weeks, while the

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families and these men were francic toly
searching for any information on their disappearances.

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Once I got through the initial shock
of my brother's murder, everything started to

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set in the fact that my brother's
body was mutilated so badly I never got

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to see him when last time took
a huge hole on me and the rest

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of my family. The nature of
these crimes stripped our families of any of

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those choices and given my baby brother
the proper aerial we felt he deserved.

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After the body parts were discovered,
they were quickly transported to a medical examiner.

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Once there, the cause of death
was determined. Unsurprisingly, this missing

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per person's case became a double homicide
investigation. Obviously, they're both dead,

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and the main tended to kill him. Well, Philip was They was shot

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by this here I guess execution style
for lack of better words. Judy was

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also shot in the back of the
head and then shot in the back.

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Both men had been shot to death
before their bodies were dismembered. Strangely,

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when the medical examiners attempted to piece
together the bodies, they realized they were

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missing several pieces. This, of
course begged the question where was the rest

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of them? At the same time, the homicide investigators were also trying to

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piece together the story of how this
all happened, and in order to do

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that, they interviewed several people.
One of those people was Mike Montano's girlfriend,

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twenty two year old Kylie Collins.
You grew up in Ly. How

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many have you, Mike been together? Almost a year? Almost year.

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Our year is October thirteenth, So
you guys have lived When did you guys

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move in together? Probably in November, but we've jumped around places we've lived

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it lived with friends. When did
you meet Jody for some time last year?

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I've really met Jody like a handful
of times, just us to live

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here. Do you remember the last
time you said? Adun't? I really

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don't. It's been a while.
Did he ever like stay at your house

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with you guys? He I think
he only came like once, and that's

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since we've only had this trailer for
this will go You been on going on

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a third month, Like whenever Jody
would like come or hang out, I

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wasn't around, you know, because
usually they're having a barrow time, you

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know what in the time, you
know. Mike and Kylie lived together in

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a small trailer in July, and
according to Kylie, she didn't know Jody

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very well or see much of him
because when Jody was around, it meant

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that Kylie shouldn't be. As for
Philip, Kylie claimed that she knew even

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less about him. And you said
you met Philip a couple of times.

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I've met him once. Where was
that? I never remember? I think

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it was Mike's old place. So
I don't know that much about Philip.

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I really don't Philip, I don't
know anything about If you're getting the vibe

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that Kylie was trying to distance herself
from Jody and Philip as much as possible,

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you're not alone, The detectives clearly
felt the same way, and they

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quickly transitioned into another line of questioning
about a very particular pickup truck. Was

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it weird that you saw Mike's truck
over there? Kind? But how come

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I don't know? This is weird? Did you notice anything unusual about the

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Trump? No? Did you ever
see him putting stuff in the pickup?

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Or wonder what was in the back
of that pickup? I've never wondered.

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I mean, I just I'm not
going to go in question everything he does.

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Wouldn't that be weird? Did you
ever walk by the pickup and thing

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pickup stinks? No? I remember, because when he parked their pickup,

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he parked it back. The reason
that the cops were questioning Kylie and Mike's

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truck was because the truck that contained
Philip and Jody's body parts belonged to Mike

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Montano. Given that fact, the
obvious assumption was that Mike murdered both men

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and dismembered their corpses. And given
the other fact that Mike and Kylie lived

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together, the detectives clearly believed that
Kylie knew a lot more than she was

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telling. Since what there's say it
too, I have not seen it.

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I mean, was there something more
going on? And we just get in

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big fights. Well sometimes we'll get
in big fights and we just kind of,

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you know what I mean, for
separate ways for a few days or

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maybe a day or two, and
then we can't stand not talking to each

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other. We talk. Not only
had Kylie tried to distance herself from the

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murder victims, but she also tried
to distance herself from her living boyfriend.

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She claimed that, even though they
were dating and lived together, Kylie would

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frequently go days without seeing or hearing
from Mike at all. Despite these well

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blaytant lies, I mean, let's
just call it what it is. The

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detectives were able to get Kylie to
admit that Mike did have a mean streak

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and that he was a jealous man, especially when it came to other men.

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And Kylie, you ever seen him
get really pissed at somebody besides you?

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Yeah, seen him before, but
not like horrid mad. Did you

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know the other day he punched him
and choked him? No, Io,

405
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:22,000
Yeah, I heard about it.
Did she say what happened or why or

406
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:27,920
anything? Because we heard that too, Because I used his phone to call

407
00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:31,159
Mike. You used Kim's phone,
so you got yell this or something.

408
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:37,320
He just I guess he said who's
your who's your real? Whose side are

409
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,760
you on? Who whose friend are
you? Or something to Tim. Naturally,

410
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:45,599
the police didn't only question Kylie.
After the body parts were found and

411
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:52,239
police determined who the pickup truck belonged
to, Mike Montano was promptly arrested and

412
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:57,000
brought into the interrogation room. We
both know why we're here today. Okay,

413
00:37:58,599 --> 00:38:01,960
the bit of your truck is a
mindles torso it looks like two bullow

414
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:06,559
ones right here. I don't have
no man my name, so I want

415
00:38:06,599 --> 00:38:08,719
hope you guys got some ship cleared
up these other fuckers before you know,

416
00:38:09,519 --> 00:38:13,480
Andrew even bigger than Tagger, or
if I can, if I will,

417
00:38:13,599 --> 00:38:17,800
we'll assume that today. Okay,
Mike was primed and ready to start pointing

418
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:27,039
fingers, but there was one major
issue. The body parts were found in

419
00:38:27,199 --> 00:38:31,719
his truck. It's kind of hard
to blame someone else for a double murder

420
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:38,519
when you're driving around with dismembered pieces
of the victims. As to be expected,

421
00:38:38,639 --> 00:38:43,920
then, is too often the situation. When Mike was questioned, his

422
00:38:44,119 --> 00:38:50,639
first concern wasn't Phillips or Jody's families
or the heartache and trauma they were enduring

423
00:38:50,719 --> 00:39:02,079
at the time. Mike's first concern
was his own future work. And I'm

424
00:39:02,559 --> 00:39:08,599
let's hit this cleared up. I'm
not logically, there's no five percent prison.

425
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:14,960
Isn't a sentence for me? Five
years for double homicide? What is

426
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:20,639
this guy smoking? I need some
Given what the police found and where they

427
00:39:20,679 --> 00:39:23,840
found it, it was pretty clear
that Mike had murdered Jody and Philip.

428
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:30,199
But when Mike was questioned about this, he told quite a story, and

429
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:37,440
that story implicated not one, but
two people, Philip's girlfriend, Shelby Warren

430
00:39:37,400 --> 00:40:13,519
and his own girlfriend Kylie Collins.
In mid October of twenty sixteen, thirty

431
00:40:13,519 --> 00:40:17,480
seven year old Mike Montana was arrested
after several dismembered body parts were found in

432
00:40:17,519 --> 00:40:22,480
the bed of his pickup truck.
The body parts belonged to thirty eight year

433
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:28,320
old Jody Fortuna and thirty three year
old Philip Brewer, both of whom had

434
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:34,559
been reported missing just over a month
before this gruesome discovery was made. For

435
00:40:34,639 --> 00:40:38,159
police, there was little doubt that
Mike had killed both men, but they

436
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:45,079
still had plenty of questions like how
did they die and why did Mike do

437
00:40:45,159 --> 00:40:51,960
this? Also, when medical examiners
tried to put Philip and Jody back together,

438
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:57,199
they found that several body parts were
missing, so where was Mike hiding

439
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,480
the rest of them? In an
attempt to get answer to these questions,

440
00:41:00,599 --> 00:41:06,679
Mike Montana was taken to an interview
room and interrogated. I know this isn't

441
00:41:06,679 --> 00:41:12,800
easy. I mean, there's anybody
found in your truck, and I think

442
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,519
you want to get it off your
chest? What went down and where it

443
00:41:15,559 --> 00:41:24,599
went down? I I don't think
I need it. Ken, you don't

444
00:41:24,639 --> 00:41:29,760
think you killed him? No,
I really really don't. But we'll figure

445
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:35,000
that out, okay. And listening
to Mike's interrogation, it's obvious that he

446
00:41:35,119 --> 00:41:40,039
was a very desperate man looking for
any way to deny responsibility for the body

447
00:41:40,119 --> 00:41:45,119
parts that the police had found in
his truck. One way he tried to

448
00:41:45,159 --> 00:41:50,679
do this was to point the police
toward a potential suspect. You knew Shelley,

449
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:58,599
is shell me a Shelley? Or
for I know Shelley? Do I?

450
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:07,400
No? I did. Throughout Mike's
interrogation, he continuously talked about Philip's

451
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:13,559
girlfriend, Shelby Warren, and claimed
that Shelby was an evil, manipulative sociopath

452
00:42:13,639 --> 00:42:17,760
who could have orchestrated the killings of
Philip and Jody. Oh, she's really

453
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:25,000
worried around money around around me.
So they started tracking me basically like can

454
00:42:25,039 --> 00:42:29,880
literally tracking me, Philip or tell
me about hints about it which she could

455
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:36,840
follow people that normally hadn't the wood
Philip, Yeah, experience with three while

456
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:44,199
we were now then three she and
Philip, Yeah, what the things they

457
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:45,480
knew, the things that they were
capable of, things that I thought were

458
00:42:45,519 --> 00:42:50,800
just like well, like tracking me. According to Mike, he suspected that

459
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:55,159
Shelby had been spying on him and
tracking his movements for months. Why she

460
00:42:55,199 --> 00:43:00,440
would do such a thing, Mike
wasn't sure, but he believe that Philip

461
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:07,400
and Jody knew all about what Shelby
was up to. Despite his suspicions,

462
00:43:07,039 --> 00:43:13,440
Mike maintained his relationships with them because
he didn't want to feel lonely. Oh

463
00:43:13,519 --> 00:43:17,840
what a sad guy. I saw
signs young and I never time to him

464
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:23,039
by myself. It's hard to go
to another. Eventually, you guys just

465
00:43:23,079 --> 00:43:30,199
starts to talk lower centers. He
should Mike claim that his friends were about

466
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:36,519
to enact some sort of unknown plot
against him. Never mind, I don't

467
00:43:36,519 --> 00:43:38,440
want whatever these people are smoking.
It makes you too paranoid. Apparently,

468
00:43:39,559 --> 00:43:44,000
Mike was obviously very paranoid. He
didn't know what the hell the plot was,

469
00:43:44,039 --> 00:43:47,320
but he knew there was one,
and he suspected that his girlfriend Kylie

470
00:43:47,599 --> 00:43:52,719
may have been in on it as
well. Well, they're all fucking together.

471
00:43:53,119 --> 00:43:59,000
There's just been a real secret about
everything that they're doing. Okay,

472
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,199
I'm gonna be insecretive then too.
Well, it seems that in like she

473
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:06,800
had no shit or no viva,
just being were different. Yeah, and

474
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:10,559
I don't want to think that it
was Kylie. The only fucking way they

475
00:44:10,559 --> 00:44:15,519
could have manipulated and did this the
way they did is if somebody was right

476
00:44:15,559 --> 00:44:16,599
there next to me, and then
I fucking trusted in love. Right.

477
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:22,760
Basically, Mike's story was that in
order for him to end up where he

478
00:44:22,079 --> 00:44:27,000
was, namely, having the body
parts of two dead men in his truck,

479
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,199
did I mention that, yeah,
he had been manipulated into that position,

480
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:35,599
because he would never have done this
on his own, of course?

481
00:44:36,639 --> 00:44:40,679
Okay, okay, solid argument,
got it? Got it? Other people

482
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:45,599
clearly have been pulling the strings,
and the only other people capable of pulling

483
00:44:45,599 --> 00:44:51,719
those strings were the people closest to
him. This included his girlfriend, Kylie.

484
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,199
Speaking of Kylie, after Mike was
arrested, Kylie was quickly put on

485
00:44:55,320 --> 00:45:00,559
notice that it was time to come
clean about what she knew. So,

486
00:45:00,599 --> 00:45:05,719
you know, Mike's in some serious
trouble, right, That's why I'm at

487
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,239
all a semi member. I don't
get what serious till one. I don't

488
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:12,599
get it at least charged the first
agree? Murder? What? Yes,

489
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,760
that's why we're here today. What's
first agree? I don't know the differences,

490
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:21,920
but did you kill somebody? On
purpose. And there's two guys missing,

491
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,920
right, you know, it's Philip
and Jody. So do you know

492
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:31,280
anything about that? Do you know
anything about Phillips? I don't. I

493
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:36,239
don't. Today's the day if you
know something to tell us, Okay,

494
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,280
okay, because we've been talking to
and we're going to talk to a lot

495
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:43,079
of people. Okay, So if
you know anything, however small you think

496
00:45:43,119 --> 00:45:49,199
it may be, you need to
tell us. Kylie maintained that she knew

497
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:53,679
nothing if Mike had killed Philip and
Jody, she was completely unaware of it.

498
00:45:54,679 --> 00:46:00,519
Mike, however, had already told
these same detectives that Kylie knew everything.

499
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:04,920
According to Mike, after a night
of drinking with Jody and Philip,

500
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:09,559
Mike blacked out. The next morning, he awoke to Kylie asking him what

501
00:46:09,639 --> 00:46:14,559
he had done. The reason why
I woke up that morning as Kylie came

502
00:46:14,559 --> 00:46:16,280
over check on me out of nowhere. Okay, she woke me up the

503
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:22,360
trailer. Yep, good, what
she said? She sad me what happened?

504
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,280
And I was like, what happened? She went to the bath before

505
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:30,039
she woke me up, straight to
the bathroom and they were in there in

506
00:46:30,079 --> 00:46:37,639
the bathtub. Who's there? Enjoy
hold buddies, both of them in the

507
00:46:37,679 --> 00:46:42,159
doub How are they in the doubs? Pop pile on top of each other.

508
00:46:42,519 --> 00:46:44,880
She was swearing about the problem and
no, no, nothing, There

509
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:46,920
was no blood anywhere in my fucking
trailer. Nothing, dude, Okay,

510
00:46:47,119 --> 00:46:51,599
what happened to him? I told
you I got a fucking black the funk

511
00:46:51,639 --> 00:46:55,000
out? That is all true?
Okay. Supposedly, Kylie was the first

512
00:46:55,000 --> 00:47:01,480
person to discover the dead bodies piled
in hers and Mike's bathtub. When Kylie

513
00:47:01,559 --> 00:47:07,800
was confronted with this accusation, she
didn't handle it very well. And what

514
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:20,280
did you see? This is the
time, this is your chance. You

515
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:25,360
understand why we have to know what
I said? Why we need to know

516
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:37,639
you understand. I don't. No, don't good as you're doing. I

517
00:47:37,679 --> 00:47:43,760
don't. We're asking you what you
saw because Mike's already telling people, and

518
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:49,920
we don't want to just take his
word for it. He's told somebody that

519
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,760
you walked in and said, I'm
doing something. What are you talking about?

520
00:47:54,199 --> 00:48:00,760
I want to know what you saw. I don't. M Kelly,

521
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:05,360
would you tell us you're gonna feel
much better? I feel better? I

522
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:10,280
don't if I feel like this is
what do you remember seeing? No?

523
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:15,480
No, no, don't don't talk. You know what? Talking to us

524
00:48:16,079 --> 00:48:22,920
is a difference between seeing something and
being involved in something. Do you get

525
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:29,639
what I'm saying? The detectives spelled
it out for Kylie. She could either

526
00:48:29,679 --> 00:48:35,679
be a cooperating witness or an accessory
to a double homicide. What would you

527
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:37,840
pick? So? Do you want
to tell us about it? Or you

528
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:39,559
don't want to talk to us anymore? I don't want to talk to I

529
00:48:39,559 --> 00:48:45,119
have a lawyer or something. A
lawyer or something. I don't know.

530
00:48:45,199 --> 00:48:49,840
I don't think I need one.
I just sorry. I feel like I'm

531
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,719
being trapped and I feel like you
guys are not gonna be honest with I

532
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,559
mean, you guys are gonna say
whatever and tow us whatever. You want

533
00:48:54,599 --> 00:48:58,199
to make me say something? Right, Well, we're telling you what we

534
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,119
what we know. So do I
know that you know that? Because I

535
00:49:01,159 --> 00:49:06,760
know that. You know that we
know it because you know it happened.

536
00:49:07,159 --> 00:49:12,800
You know we know it because it's
true because of what you saw. We

537
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,880
found some of that yesterday. We've
seen it too, and it's horrible.

538
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:22,920
I mean, we understand where you're
upset. By having seen that, but

539
00:49:23,039 --> 00:49:29,519
it's bad. For the most part. The detectives approached Kylie with kid gloves,

540
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:36,719
but that didn't sway her. Kylie
opted to deny involvement, at least

541
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:40,960
for now. Meanwhile, Mike continued
to try and cast doubt on the likelihood

542
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:45,159
that he killed Jody and Philip.
I honest to god, I could never

543
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:51,719
hurt Joey. Ever, that was
the only reason why I don't think I

544
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:57,039
did it. Care please you guys
obviously deceased in your top when you do

545
00:49:57,079 --> 00:50:00,960
it. Fucking sat the day very
well, fucking thinking what to do,

546
00:50:01,039 --> 00:50:04,800
getting them what to do, the
right thing to do, want thing to

547
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,840
do, and then Kylie was getting
freaked out, which tell me to do

548
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:14,480
something or whatever. My claim that
he didn't know how Jody and Phillips's dead

549
00:50:14,519 --> 00:50:17,840
bodies ended up in his bathtub,
but after he became aware that they were

550
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:23,639
there, Kylie pressured him into doing
something about it. Fucking women, Am

551
00:50:23,639 --> 00:50:28,280
I right? They're always just yapping
away, just nagging about everything. Just

552
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,960
they always want a clean bathroom,
no dead bodies, bad bad man.

553
00:50:31,079 --> 00:50:38,079
Then and then what you do when
you going to detail, how do I

554
00:50:38,119 --> 00:50:43,800
think they cut one of them?
In half with what just do a little

555
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:49,280
tiny fucking saw handsaw or electric so
or handsaw? All right, So he

556
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,239
cut one and a half then one
and temps that I had that hard?

557
00:50:52,599 --> 00:50:57,679
Are you there, joys? I
think? And then what did you do

558
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:02,800
with the other one? I kind
of the other went up too. Did

559
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:13,440
you saw their heads off? Yeah? On their arms yep? Okay,

560
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:17,119
and they left their legs intact or
do you saw their legs off to No?

561
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:21,639
I think I caught one half and
it wouldn't fit or something like that.

562
00:51:21,679 --> 00:51:22,639
So that's why I had to cut
the arms off the other one.

563
00:51:22,679 --> 00:51:27,920
And then I just went the same
and the head yeah, And then kind

564
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:34,320
of came later and cleaned it again
and shod like that. So only to

565
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,039
appease his girlfriend and ladies, you
know how much we do for you,

566
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:45,880
Mike used a small handsaw to dismember
Philip and Mike's so called best friend and

567
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:51,199
brother, Jody. According to the
Medical Examiner, this had to be a

568
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:58,159
very brutal and messy affair, not
to mention outright disgusting based on the state

569
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,639
of the body parts. There was
a aggression behind what Mike had done,

570
00:52:02,519 --> 00:52:07,599
especially when it came to Philip.
Did you hate Philip? No, I

571
00:52:07,639 --> 00:52:09,480
didn't hate Philip enough to fucking kill
him. I mean I didn't like him.

572
00:52:09,519 --> 00:52:13,440
I didn't trust him, And I've
made that clear to everybody that I

573
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,880
didn't really like Philip. I didn't
care for him. I think then he

574
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:21,679
fucking gets Jody into stupid bullshit and
he's always getting trouble and bragg dragging everybody

575
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:22,960
with him. You know what I
mean. Everybody knows that about Philip.

576
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:27,840
Everybody does. And my fucking tongue
in your trio. He was just and

577
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:31,719
the reason I ask is guess he
was kind of quite different than Jody.

578
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:37,679
Mike admitted to chopping up the bodies. That element of the crime was clear,

579
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:43,239
but there was still a big question
that needed to be answered. The

580
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,079
police only found some of Jody and
Philip in the back of Mike's truck,

581
00:52:46,199 --> 00:52:52,199
So where were the other body parts? They should all be in the truck.

582
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:57,719
There's two bodies in those two totes. There should be Okay, all

583
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:01,440
their parts are in there. Yeah, that's why I'm asking, because I

584
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:06,000
don't think too. I don't know. Maybe they're in there, but I

585
00:53:06,039 --> 00:53:09,880
don't know if two bodies can pit
in those two toes. You tell me

586
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:16,679
my storage unit. After some pushback
in a few lies, Mike admitted that

587
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:22,840
some of Jody and Philip were inside
a storage unit that he and Kylie shared.

588
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:28,119
In fact, this storage unit is
where Mike had been keeping the body

589
00:53:28,159 --> 00:53:31,519
parts before moving some of them into
his truck. So I got him on,

590
00:53:32,199 --> 00:53:36,960
put him in the toes, put
him in the car, the toes

591
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:38,639
anyone's from my car. Yeah,
put the toes in my car. And

592
00:53:38,679 --> 00:53:44,519
then Win put him in the storage
and locked it up. From that.

593
00:53:45,039 --> 00:53:49,440
From there, we're just coming in
there and then like we driving, we

594
00:53:49,679 --> 00:53:55,559
fucking shat like every day. Yeah. For nearly forty days, the body

595
00:53:55,599 --> 00:54:01,960
parts of Jody Fortuna and Philip Brewer
rod it in a storage unit. During

596
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:07,239
this time, Mike and Kylie made
frequent trips to check on them and make

597
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:12,000
sure that they weren't discovered. Unsurprisingly, after only a day or so,

598
00:54:13,079 --> 00:54:19,599
things started to get pretty stinky.
I would smell that smell everywhere I would

599
00:54:19,639 --> 00:54:25,719
go, still smell that smell.
Fucking I still saw that snow. I

600
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:30,800
have never seen anything. Sure,
it does not ever go away. I'll

601
00:54:31,519 --> 00:54:40,920
eating sometimes I don't want to eat
to cover up the smell. Mike poured

602
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:45,360
baking soda on the body parts,
and Kylie gave him a few bug bombs

603
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:50,719
to keep the flies away. Still, they both knew that these were only

604
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:54,840
temporary solutions and that they were both
going to have to dispose of the evidence.

605
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:59,679
Somehow, Kylie might the bottom on
board and got messed up too,

606
00:55:00,599 --> 00:55:07,519
and did the progress from there,
and then they kept hitting commute. She

607
00:55:07,639 --> 00:55:12,400
said that we did hear her the
bodies right. Mike and Kylie agreed that

608
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,800
they wanted to dump the body parts
out of state, so they packed up

609
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:21,800
Mike's truck with some of the body
parts and drove to South Dakota. Why

610
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:27,840
they didn't take all of the body
parts remains unclear. After arriving in South

611
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,920
Dakota, Mike struggled to find a
suitable and well hidden in place, so

612
00:55:31,679 --> 00:55:37,320
he gave up, turned around,
and went home. After returning from South

613
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,519
Dakota, Mike parked his truck on
the side of the road near his mobile

614
00:55:40,559 --> 00:55:47,000
home and just left it there for
days. Eventually, someone noticed the smell

615
00:55:47,119 --> 00:55:52,599
and alerted police. She was with
me driving around in your truck. Yeah,

616
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:54,719
you have both loaded on that day
or whatever, and no, it

617
00:55:54,840 --> 00:56:01,719
came back and I parked my truck
and I just kept part. Everything Mike

618
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:08,159
had done was blatantly cruel and horrific, yet he maintained that his actions weren't

619
00:56:08,519 --> 00:56:14,239
his fault. If Mike had done
anything wrong, it was because the people

620
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:19,960
around him manipulated him into doing it. Call me surprised for someone not having

621
00:56:20,119 --> 00:56:24,559
personal responsibility in this day and age. I'm not a fucking evil, wicked

622
00:56:24,639 --> 00:56:29,519
person. I'm really really not.
Like two days, dude, two days

623
00:56:30,039 --> 00:56:36,679
I didn't find do nothing to I
just sat there. Oh well, that

624
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,199
makes it better. As long as
you wait two days, it's fine to

625
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:45,800
chop up some murder victims in your
bathtub. AnyWho. Again, Mike admitted

626
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:52,360
to dismembering Philip and Jody, but
he maintained that he wasn't capable of killing

627
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,559
them. When asked who might have
done it, Mike was quick to offer

628
00:56:55,719 --> 00:57:01,559
up a theory, and he was
something before two insurgis and there's truth because

629
00:57:01,599 --> 00:57:04,920
you can go and look at the
fucking Ancel Roy pression. I was asked,

630
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,000
fuck out, need to know nothing. I have one fucking drink,

631
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,199
and I'd lacked down and didn't know
shit until I woke up. In Surges.

632
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:15,639
Yeah. According to Mike Shelby,
Warren had a known and provable history

633
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:21,679
of spiking Mike's drink with drugs and
causing him to black out. People sure

634
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,599
do like to do that to this
guy, don't they. Mike suggested that

635
00:57:24,679 --> 00:57:30,960
Shelby planned and arranged the murders with
the help of an unknown friend. According

636
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:36,360
to Mike, Shelby must have drugged
Mike's drink, waited for him to pass

637
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:40,440
out, and then murdered Philip and
Jody. Then she cleaned up the crime

638
00:57:40,519 --> 00:57:46,880
scene and put the dead bodies in
Mike's bathtub. Totally makes sense. Who

639
00:57:47,199 --> 00:57:52,760
who do you think may I'm kill
him? I think it's somebody that Shelby's

640
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:57,960
friends with. This one God,
because Shelby and dinted about Philip and never

641
00:57:58,039 --> 00:58:01,079
coming back and before you know what
I mean, And how did they power?

642
00:58:01,199 --> 00:58:06,480
Why would they put him in your
bathtub? It made me a little

643
00:58:06,519 --> 00:58:12,119
guilty. What was your thoughts of
why you ended up going to kind of

644
00:58:12,159 --> 00:58:14,719
out instead of saying, you know, if you don't think you did this,

645
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:19,000
why didn't you call for help or
do something else besides kind of up?

646
00:58:20,599 --> 00:58:23,639
And to me, it just looks
like you know, I meaning,

647
00:58:23,719 --> 00:58:29,599
there's no way I've never gotten away
with anything. Mike's theory about how Philip

648
00:58:29,639 --> 00:58:36,119
and jody ended up dead and his
bathtub was obviously ridiculous, and cops knew

649
00:58:36,159 --> 00:58:42,440
that they're not all dumb, but
that didn't necessarily mean that Shelby was off

650
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:46,440
the hook. If you remember,
from her earlier police interview, Shelby claimed

651
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:52,599
that she drove by Mike's trailer after
seeing Philip for the last time. She

652
00:58:52,719 --> 00:58:57,400
claimed that when she saw Jody's car
parked outside, she just left and went

653
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,719
home, but the cops weren't entirely
sure she was being honest about that.

654
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:06,760
In fact, when Shelby was questioned
and before the details of the murder were

655
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:10,280
released to the public, Shelby seemed
to have a pretty solid theory about how

656
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:19,119
everything happened. It's possible that during
her police interview she accidentally lets something slip.

657
00:59:19,679 --> 00:59:23,320
He was going to shoot him as
well, What do you mean as

658
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:28,760
well? I understands well, because
he stopped from Tony. I do you

659
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:32,880
know that? Ah, I guess, I don't know for sure. I'm

660
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:42,480
only assuming, how assuming that because
they're dead and Mike this is my I

661
00:59:42,559 --> 00:59:45,920
think he did it as you're here
today. You're telling me the truth because

662
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:51,440
we're talking, dude, a lot
of people, Okay, so you know

663
00:59:51,599 --> 00:59:57,039
more? Are you somehow know more? Things? They're into Today's the day

664
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,559
I'm not. I don't know if
they were. That's how I remember it.

665
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:07,519
Detectives didn't suspect that Shelby committed the
murders, but they did wonder if

666
01:00:07,559 --> 01:00:13,920
she witnessed it happen. At a
minimum, they clearly believed that Shelby knew

667
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:16,079
a lot more than she was telling, but if that was the case,

668
01:00:16,159 --> 01:00:21,199
they could never prove it. In
fact, when it came to the details

669
01:00:21,239 --> 01:00:25,679
of the murders, police weren't able
to prove much at all because, frankly,

670
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,280
they didn't have much to work with. All they had was Kylie's refusal

671
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:37,880
to cooperate, Shelby's denials, and
Mike's insane accusations, so the police were

672
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:45,360
never able to say with certainty when
the murders happened or where. The prominent

673
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:51,119
theory among investigators is that Mike shot
and killed Philip first, and that he

674
01:00:51,199 --> 01:00:57,599
made Jody watch him commit that murder, then he turned the gun on Jody.

675
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,840
They also believed that Kyle Lly didn't
witness this happen, but that she

676
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:07,079
did discover the bodies and helped Mike
clean up the mess. Kylie knew,

677
01:01:07,119 --> 01:01:13,800
dude, okay, and Kylie led, I mean, Kylie led the whole

678
01:01:15,039 --> 01:01:16,320
mission to chop it up and get
away with it. And the way she

679
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:22,119
handled this was just it gets me
goosebums just thinking about how she did none,

680
01:01:22,239 --> 01:01:25,599
what's whatever, like fucking it was
nothing to her, like she's seen

681
01:01:25,639 --> 01:01:29,440
it before, you know what I
mean? And I'm not trying to why

682
01:01:29,519 --> 01:01:31,440
I said, Kylie, Kylie,
Kelly if she had no reaction, and

683
01:01:31,559 --> 01:01:37,360
she had none, she didn't help
her told me what to do with the

684
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:42,679
way I think about Kylie right now, I don't fucking I don't think I

685
01:01:42,719 --> 01:01:45,320
ever knew Kye. I didn't want
to do this. I didn't want to

686
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:50,880
do this. I did this because
fucking I've Kylie told me I could.

687
01:01:51,039 --> 01:01:53,159
I shouldn't fucking that we'd be together
at me for a rapper, and that's

688
01:01:53,159 --> 01:01:57,199
what I needed to do, and
that's what I did. I would never

689
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,800
have done it if Kylie wouldn't have
said, you know what I mean,

690
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:07,960
I would never have up his mind. As for the dismemberment. Mike admitted

691
01:02:08,039 --> 01:02:14,960
to doing that, but he directed
the blame at Kylie. He claimed that

692
01:02:15,039 --> 01:02:19,880
he never would have chopped up the
bodies had it not been for her encouragement.

693
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:24,000
And we all know that ladies love
to encourage men to do things,

694
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:30,880
and men are happy to do them
most of the time. Obviously, even

695
01:02:31,039 --> 01:02:37,559
if that were the case, it
wasn't going to mitigate Mike's responsibility. But

696
01:02:37,679 --> 01:02:42,320
it did mean that Kylie was culpable, and she didn't do herself any favors

697
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:45,559
by continuously lying to the police.
So, do you guys have a storageing

698
01:02:45,679 --> 01:02:50,400
together or anything like that where you
keep it extra stuff? Do you know

699
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:54,400
if Mike has a storage in anywhere
that maybe? I don't know. He

700
01:02:54,400 --> 01:03:00,599
wouldn't tell you if he did.
You guys have been together. Yeah,

701
01:03:00,639 --> 01:03:07,960
Kylie lied about just about everything,
and cops could prove it. When Kylie

702
01:03:07,079 --> 01:03:10,960
was called out for her lies,
she did what she should have done right

703
01:03:12,039 --> 01:03:17,760
away. She asked for a lawyer, but it was too late. The

704
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:23,519
damage was already done. As it
often is, she'd already broken the law

705
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:29,519
by lying and hindering the investigation of
a double homicide. And I'm going to

706
01:03:29,559 --> 01:03:31,800
give you a minute to think about
it. Okay, Well, I don't

707
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:43,800
get what don't you get what part
is confusing you? I don't think you're

708
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:50,039
confused. You're not dumb. You're
a smart girl. You know exactly what's

709
01:03:50,079 --> 01:03:58,440
going on. So you sawna what
Mike was doing, right, isn't that

710
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:02,599
about them? And you know who
those people were? Right? And what

711
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:06,880
you saw happening was found on that
truck yesterday when we searched it. Okay,

712
01:04:08,639 --> 01:04:11,760
and we know you know what happened, So you can be a witness

713
01:04:13,519 --> 01:04:18,239
and or a suspect because I know
you assume your mouth of instru mind.

714
01:04:18,559 --> 01:04:25,159
Wasn't your plan to kill people or
to chop them up and put them in

715
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:30,880
plastic totes and hide them. I
didn't get a lawyer then, Okay,

716
01:04:32,519 --> 01:04:39,760
fair enough. In the end,
Kylie did admit to her role in helping

717
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:44,480
to cover up the murders, and
she agreed to testify against Mike if his

718
01:04:44,679 --> 01:04:49,159
case ever went to trial. In
exchange, Kylie did not face any accessory

719
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:55,880
charges, but she did face charges
for misleading police. Ultimately, Kylie never

720
01:04:56,119 --> 01:05:00,719
had to testify because Mike didn't take
his case to trial. Montano's earlier pled

721
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:04,599
no contest to killing thirty three year
old Philip Brewer and thirty seven year old

722
01:05:04,679 --> 01:05:10,360
Jody Fontuna, dismembering their bodies in
an attempt to dispose of them. Before

723
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:15,960
he was sentenced, Monteo apologized to
Fortuna's mother. District Judge Michael Degan sentenced

724
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:20,320
to Michael Montano on Wednesday to sixty
years to life in prison. Montana's former

725
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:25,000
girlfriend, twenty four year old Kaylee
Collins, was also sentenced Tuesday to two

726
01:05:25,079 --> 01:05:30,159
years in jail for interfering what the
police investigation after the men were reported missing.

727
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:34,639
After Mike and Kylie were sent off
to prison, the Brewer and Fortuna

728
01:05:34,719 --> 01:05:40,559
families had no choice but to pick
up the pieces of their lives and move

729
01:05:40,639 --> 01:05:45,280
on. In an effort to do
something good in her brother's name, Philip's

730
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:50,480
sister set out to have some of
Wyoming's laws changed. Once Memorial was over,

731
01:05:50,559 --> 01:05:54,960
my husband and I started researching the
charges that the defendants were accused of

732
01:05:56,599 --> 01:06:00,599
two counts of second degree murder and
two counts of posts more to corpse mutilation

733
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:05,039
for the first offense, And when
we looked up these penalties for corpse mutilation

734
01:06:05,159 --> 01:06:12,280
were shot that Wyoming only carries after
three years. Three years technically means that

735
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:15,920
a person charged with this crime could
ultimately receive probation. I mean, I

736
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:20,480
knew deep down that I had to
do something. I walked into the house

737
01:06:20,519 --> 01:06:24,760
one day and told my husband that
I was going to change to Wyoming state

738
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:30,719
statue on corpse mutilation for the sake
of her brother. Philip's sister lobbied to

739
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:35,760
change the penalties for corpse mutilation in
Wyoming, and after several years of fighting

740
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:42,320
for that change, she was successful. Because of her efforts, anyone who

741
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:46,920
dissects or mutilates a dead human body
in Wyoming now faces a possible five year

742
01:06:47,039 --> 01:06:53,639
prison sentence, a much more fitting
sentence, I may say, for such

743
01:06:53,639 --> 01:06:59,039
a horrendous crime. I finally was
able to give back, to do something

744
01:06:59,159 --> 01:07:04,239
extraordinary my brother and his legacy.
I was humbled. I feel close to

745
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:08,519
my brother, and I know what
how he wanted me to live my life

746
01:07:08,599 --> 01:07:11,920
to the fullest. Even though he's
the first thing on my mind when I

747
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:15,039
wake up and the last thing when
I fall asleep, I feel comfort in

748
01:07:15,119 --> 01:07:17,679
knowing he's proud of what I've accomplished
and how hard I puished himself to be

749
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:25,519
the best I can be. Throughout
his police interviews, Mike Montano repeatedly referred

750
01:07:25,519 --> 01:07:30,280
to Jody as his brother. He
claimed that their bond meant so much to

751
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:34,320
him that they were practically siblings.
When you compare those claims to the way

752
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:40,760
that Philip's sister speaks out about her
brother and the things that she did to

753
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:45,800
honor his life, Mike's claims about
brotherhood sure do come across pretty hollow.

754
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:53,719
Mike shot and killed his so called
brother, then he mutilated and dismembered the

755
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:59,119
body. The clear motive was never
established in this case, but more than

756
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:04,039
likely Mike was driven by some very
dark and deep seated resentment and jealousy.

757
01:08:04,679 --> 01:08:08,679
I remember pulling the trigger. I
really don't remember pulling the trigger in the

758
01:08:08,719 --> 01:08:14,119
strip. I really don't. We'll
let up to that, Like I don't,

759
01:08:14,159 --> 01:08:16,079
huh, I don't know. Man, all the drugs, all the

760
01:08:16,159 --> 01:08:19,000
time, they d me off all
the time, this is what I would

761
01:08:19,039 --> 01:08:25,359
can't give me and fucking whying about
Kylie and being a prostituting shit with them

762
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:29,920
and just fucked up, like taking
advantage of me and putting me down and

763
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:33,840
fucking making me a joke to everybody, and just fucking stealing from me everything.

764
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:39,520
They took everything in life. Mike
was fed up with being the joke

765
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:45,319
among his friends. He was angry
about Jody's sleeping with Kylie, and he

766
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:49,920
hated that Jody's friendship with Philip carried
more mutual respect than his own friendship with

767
01:08:50,039 --> 01:08:58,479
Jody. So what was probably a
drunken and drug fueled rage, he lashed

768
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:03,359
out and shot both men to death. Then he chopped up their bodies in

769
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:10,520
allows the attempt to cover up the
crime. On top of being a pathetic

770
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:15,880
psychopath who blames everyone else for his
own actions, Mike Montana is also pretty

771
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:21,720
dim witted. Most dim witted people
think that way. They think things belong

772
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:28,000
to them, that don't. They
think the whole world revolves around them.

773
01:09:29,359 --> 01:09:33,760
Something that was clearly lost on this
idiot was a pretty basic and common sense

774
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:41,000
understanding about family. It's one thing
to call someone a brother and claim to

775
01:09:41,159 --> 01:09:45,640
have some sort of family like bond
with them because you grew up together.

776
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:51,720
It's another thing entirely to actually live
up to that claim. When Philip and

777
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:59,359
Jody went missing, Jody's mom drove
five hundred miles from Montana to Wyoming to

778
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:04,600
find herself. That's what family is. She went out there to seek out

779
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:11,199
whoever it was that had last spoken
to Jody and ask them a couple of

780
01:10:11,319 --> 01:10:15,720
questions. After the body parts were
discovered, Philip's sister worked her ass off

781
01:10:16,399 --> 01:10:21,279
to get the laws in Wyoming changed
as a way to honor her brother's life

782
01:10:23,039 --> 01:10:27,359
and legacy. Those are the kind
of things that family members do for each

783
01:10:27,399 --> 01:10:30,279
other. They don't just sit around
and talk about it while drinking beer.

784
01:10:31,239 --> 01:10:33,640
Those are the kind of things that
people do when they actually give a shit,

785
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:40,560
when they care. What they don't
do is allow petty resentment to drive

786
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:45,279
them to commit murder, and they
certainly don't mutilate and dismember the people they

787
01:10:45,359 --> 01:10:51,920
love. That goes without saying.
I hope maybe after sixty years in a

788
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:59,600
prison cell, Mike Montano will come
to better understand that. But I wouldn't

789
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:28,920
hold my breath. So if you've
been listening for a while, why don't

790
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:30,880
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