WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.520 --> 00:00:07.559 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports 2 00:00:07.599 --> 00:00:13.279 fourteen to fifteen powered by Nova Insurance Services and Sure your most Prized Possession. 3 00:00:13.320 --> 00:00:18.839 It's katz R two SA at iHeartRadio Station. Hey, good afternoon, everybody. 4 00:00:18.839 --> 00:00:21.879 Welcome to Iron the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve 5 00:00:21.920 --> 00:00:25.960 Roberta. He's jagon Zowis. Got our guys sit in today for the first 6 00:00:26.800 --> 00:00:29.719 We got them all day right, Hey, tomorrow. We have a a 7 00:00:29.719 --> 00:00:32.439 lot of stuff going on today, a lot of things going on. We 8 00:00:32.520 --> 00:00:37.920 have a good show again for Super Bowl talking yep. Joe tofoyl. Joe 9 00:00:37.960 --> 00:00:45.880 Tafoya played in the five o six Super Bowl the Seahawks. He was with 10 00:00:45.960 --> 00:00:50.439 the Seahawks and they played nothing. Yeah, the Seahawks and they lost to 11 00:00:51.719 --> 00:00:57.600 the Steelers five twenty one to ten. That was the game. Heinz Ward 12 00:00:57.640 --> 00:01:04.439 had a big game. Uh, one of a few that that the Steelers 13 00:01:04.480 --> 00:01:10.519 won during that period of time. Five. I'm looking it up right now. 14 00:01:10.560 --> 00:01:14.920 I had it sitting on my screen all day. Uh. Well the 15 00:01:14.920 --> 00:01:19.000 game was in six, so it was after the five season. Said a 16 00:01:19.000 --> 00:01:22.319 long time ago. No, No, I'm trying to make a point, 17 00:01:23.040 --> 00:01:27.280 it's uh, seventeen years ago. Eighteen years ago, cowboys have been gone 18 00:01:27.319 --> 00:01:34.319 out. Yeah, almost thirty. Well, look, Joe Tofoy is what 19 00:01:34.480 --> 00:01:38.400 forty nine years old now, so uh something like that. Forty nine So 20 00:01:38.439 --> 00:01:44.239 he was thirty, he's forty five. He's forty thirty years ago, thirty 21 00:01:44.280 --> 00:01:47.439 years old, he's forty five right now. It'd be good guy on the 22 00:01:47.439 --> 00:01:49.599 show. Before he's been on the show. He came on, think, 23 00:01:49.640 --> 00:01:53.480 came on just after. It was during during the hiring of Jetfish when they 24 00:01:53.480 --> 00:01:57.280 had the team pow wow and stuff. Actually they had a pow wow this 25 00:01:57.359 --> 00:02:01.680 week. I saw thinking la night. I think we didn't get invited. 26 00:02:01.719 --> 00:02:06.280 We'll see what do we have to add to it, so we'll see if 27 00:02:06.280 --> 00:02:08.599 he was part of it. Got maybe let me get a live I'm looking 28 00:02:08.599 --> 00:02:12.960 at Joe to Foy's birthday on Wikipedia. He was born after I graduated from 29 00:02:13.000 --> 00:02:16.840 high school. Now he's an old guy coming back to talk about to to 30 00:02:17.039 --> 00:02:21.560 your point, you get it old quickly. Yeah, I found out this 31 00:02:21.599 --> 00:02:25.680 morning. Yeah, did you were on that thread? Yeah? Stevid lined 32 00:02:25.759 --> 00:02:30.680 up guests and I had forgotten. Yeah I remember, Yeah, Yeah, 33 00:02:30.159 --> 00:02:37.080 this is what we just talked about. So so Joel come on again. 34 00:02:37.120 --> 00:02:42.120 He was in the Super Bowl. Uh what number is that? I don't 35 00:02:42.199 --> 00:02:45.680 but I don't know the number forty something, but it was it was back 36 00:02:45.719 --> 00:02:47.840 in in the in two thousand and six. It was placed. It was 37 00:02:47.840 --> 00:02:51.800 following in the two thousand and five season. Okay, So in the second 38 00:02:51.840 --> 00:02:54.560 hour, in the second hour, doctor Kevin Lehman is going to come in. 39 00:02:54.639 --> 00:02:59.240 He's actually gonna come into the studio and have a chat with us about 40 00:02:59.759 --> 00:03:04.800 whatever, you know, the many issues facing athletes and kids and things that 41 00:03:04.840 --> 00:03:07.919 they're going through, and you know, maybe have a little, uh, 42 00:03:07.199 --> 00:03:12.680 have a little lecture for our parents who seem to be idiots so often of 43 00:03:13.000 --> 00:03:16.039 so much of the time when it comes to their kids. And that has 44 00:03:16.080 --> 00:03:19.479 been just getting more escalated. Yeah, and we'll see, you know, 45 00:03:19.520 --> 00:03:22.159 we'll see. I mean, is he seeing you know, more of an 46 00:03:22.280 --> 00:03:24.759 escalation. There's more on their minds. You got younger kids, high school 47 00:03:24.840 --> 00:03:30.080 kids now looking at signing you know, contracts and endorsements and things like that, 48 00:03:30.159 --> 00:03:34.840 and how much pressure is that putting on these kids? Sure? Helicopter 49 00:03:35.080 --> 00:03:39.039 cop helicopter parents, Yeah, involved even more now than ever. So if 50 00:03:39.039 --> 00:03:42.400 you're a parent, with kids, or a parent who had kids, or 51 00:03:42.400 --> 00:03:45.879 your grandkids are starting to play sports and stuff. You might want to sit 52 00:03:45.960 --> 00:03:49.039 in on this one and maybe get a few, uh a few pointers on. 53 00:03:49.919 --> 00:03:52.240 You know what things are like out there today, and you know, 54 00:03:52.360 --> 00:03:53.960 kids are different from when you and I were growing up, right, It's 55 00:03:53.960 --> 00:03:58.080 like you know, you know, you fall down, you hurt yourself, 56 00:03:58.120 --> 00:04:00.199 and your dad would say, rub some dirt on it and get your butt 57 00:04:00.280 --> 00:04:02.439 up and get back in there. But now it's now, it's a whole 58 00:04:02.439 --> 00:04:09.400 lot different. Can I get a four O one k for you? So? 59 00:04:09.560 --> 00:04:14.159 Kevin Lehman will join us in the second segment of the second hour and 60 00:04:13.759 --> 00:04:16.160 we will have we'll touch for us. He's a big Buffalo guy, Buffalo 61 00:04:16.199 --> 00:04:19.879 bills. Go ask him about his bills and how they Yeah, they didn't 62 00:04:19.879 --> 00:04:24.399 do it again. Yeah, okay, I'll see if he leaves the room 63 00:04:24.800 --> 00:04:27.560 upset right away. A lot of stuff going on. I'm sure you've got 64 00:04:27.560 --> 00:04:30.199 a lot of freaky news. There's something going on in the football program, 65 00:04:30.480 --> 00:04:33.120 which is not a surprise, but just I'm so wondering about other people. 66 00:04:33.839 --> 00:04:36.279 Uh So, A lot of thing going on with the program. Basketball game 67 00:04:36.319 --> 00:04:41.560 tonight, six o'clock at home, just in time to see yeah six yeah 68 00:04:41.639 --> 00:04:44.879 right in Utah five and a half. Utah, they're five and a half 69 00:04:45.160 --> 00:04:47.279 favorites. I wouldn't touch that game. Have a question for you, all 70 00:04:47.360 --> 00:04:51.920 right, three bets, your choice at three bets, Let's say I don't 71 00:04:51.959 --> 00:04:55.079 have to pick all three. No, No, let's say let's say that. 72 00:04:55.160 --> 00:04:57.959 Let's say that all I don't know if you think that the odds are 73 00:04:57.959 --> 00:05:00.519 different for all three of them, or if you' one of them is an 74 00:05:00.600 --> 00:05:08.600 even money bet that Arizona sweeps, that Arizona splits, or Arizona gets swept. 75 00:05:10.519 --> 00:05:12.839 Do you have numbers? Are there is the right answer. No, 76 00:05:12.879 --> 00:05:15.519 I know I don't have any numbers. I'm making this up. I'm asking 77 00:05:15.560 --> 00:05:18.040 what I mean what okay? I think? I think I think more The 78 00:05:18.120 --> 00:05:24.000 most likely scenario, or the one that would have the lowest odds, would 79 00:05:24.040 --> 00:05:27.879 probably be split, a split split. Let's say let's say a split is 80 00:05:29.000 --> 00:05:32.319 minus one ten okay, a standard even money bet. And and let's say 81 00:05:32.920 --> 00:05:40.920 a sweep on either side is plus one hundred even money. You know, 82 00:05:40.959 --> 00:05:44.160 one hundred plus one hundred or well, I guess that's almost the saying yeah, 83 00:05:44.199 --> 00:05:46.560 yes, so no, okay, let's say let's say let's say one 84 00:05:46.639 --> 00:05:53.319 twenty two to one makee worth for the sweep? Yeah? One two to 85 00:05:53.360 --> 00:05:56.439 one? Okay, so either okay, the sweeps are two to one and 86 00:05:56.600 --> 00:06:00.000 the and the the split is even money. What are you putting your money 87 00:06:00.439 --> 00:06:03.959 to sweep? Which one? The two win two win? Two? Yeah? 88 00:06:04.240 --> 00:06:08.439 Which knowing that I'm throwing away my money, but if I get my 89 00:06:08.480 --> 00:06:11.839 money, I hit, I hit. So you like them it's because you 90 00:06:11.879 --> 00:06:15.360 like the number, like okay, So let's say you guys just put Let's 91 00:06:15.399 --> 00:06:18.240 say you guys just put ten thousand dollars on either one and the thing drops 92 00:06:18.279 --> 00:06:23.360 to one fifty, you know, one and a half to one. No, 93 00:06:23.360 --> 00:06:27.639 no, no, no to one, right, I'd go to sweep. 94 00:06:27.720 --> 00:06:29.959 I go to then if that was the case at the beginning, I 95 00:06:29.959 --> 00:06:34.959 would go split split one fifty or whatever it is, anything one fifty below, 96 00:06:35.399 --> 00:06:40.079 because I mean, come on, history, I'll tell you that what 97 00:06:40.399 --> 00:06:42.560 he hasn't lost two games in a row. He hasn't lost two games in 98 00:06:42.560 --> 00:06:46.199 a row. But the road has been very miserable to these guys, and 99 00:06:46.360 --> 00:06:47.600 these and this is these are the toughest road games are going to have. 100 00:06:47.720 --> 00:06:51.920 Sure in the pac twelve all year long, even I mean they still got 101 00:06:51.920 --> 00:06:55.879 to go to the LA schools. But this is those games tougher than these 102 00:06:56.199 --> 00:06:58.160 is tough. Yeah, this, I mean they're both twelve and oh at 103 00:06:58.160 --> 00:07:00.800 home? Right? Can you talk? And Colorado want you to come into 104 00:07:00.839 --> 00:07:04.600 their place? Colorado was hardly at full strength the last time they were here, 105 00:07:04.800 --> 00:07:08.839 got their butt beat badly. They want to they're going to get back. 106 00:07:08.879 --> 00:07:11.959 That's Saturday, right, and then tonight you talk not bad? Yeah, 107 00:07:12.360 --> 00:07:15.800 yep, yep, Okay, I got another one for you. Then 108 00:07:15.720 --> 00:07:18.120 what are you doing? No, I'm just at these are just no no, 109 00:07:18.040 --> 00:07:19.959 no, no. So where are you going with that? With that, 110 00:07:20.160 --> 00:07:24.319 I would bet the split? Yeah, I bet. Yeah, I'm 111 00:07:24.360 --> 00:07:26.639 not going to take two to one on either one. I'm taking this spoke. 112 00:07:26.839 --> 00:07:28.720 Yeah, I don't think they're gonna get swept, but I don't think 113 00:07:28.759 --> 00:07:32.000 I also, I don't think they're gonna seeps. All right, So if 114 00:07:32.040 --> 00:07:34.600 you had to bet on one or the other, if there, if you 115 00:07:34.680 --> 00:07:40.560 know they're gonna lose a game, which one are they losing tonight or Saturday? 116 00:07:40.920 --> 00:07:46.399 That's a good question I would take. I would take they win tonight 117 00:07:46.439 --> 00:07:53.240 and lose to Saturday. Okay, yeah, yeah, I have to see 118 00:07:53.240 --> 00:07:57.000 the circumstances of the games because that that's important. Yeah, you say issues 119 00:07:57.000 --> 00:08:01.879 at Colorado, I would say tonight and then win on Saturday on the split. 120 00:08:01.319 --> 00:08:03.839 So I just say, no, you said the opposite, you said, 121 00:08:05.279 --> 00:08:09.240 you said, you said when no, you said win tonight. That's 122 00:08:09.279 --> 00:08:11.480 what I'm more convicted with, though, Okay, all right, I don't 123 00:08:11.480 --> 00:08:16.959 know where I am on that. I think they'll split, and and I 124 00:08:16.000 --> 00:08:20.199 think fans need to be very happy with a split if they get a split, 125 00:08:22.920 --> 00:08:26.199 because it's to expect that they're going to go win both of these games. 126 00:08:26.920 --> 00:08:31.039 Be two teams who have not lost at home so far. And look 127 00:08:31.120 --> 00:08:35.480 again, teams we saw North Carolina lost the other night to Clemson. Teams 128 00:08:35.480 --> 00:08:41.240 are good teams, and North Carolina at home good teams are losing every day, 129 00:08:41.840 --> 00:08:45.360 you know. I mean, I think, what was North Carolina third, 130 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:48.840 fourth, third at the time, and they lost their Clemson they are 131 00:08:50.320 --> 00:08:54.879 they are now, They are now sixty and two at home against Clemson. 132 00:08:56.399 --> 00:09:00.759 It's crazy. Did you see some of the guys saying the slept through there? 133 00:09:01.440 --> 00:09:05.360 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, they couldn't wake up. 134 00:09:05.519 --> 00:09:11.559 We're just kind of like Arizona not showing up emotionally and it has we know 135 00:09:11.600 --> 00:09:16.919 that that's what that's what teams do. The way I see it obviously, 136 00:09:16.919 --> 00:09:18.679 because I think there's gonna be a split. You know, they lose tonight, 137 00:09:18.679 --> 00:09:24.559 they'll win Saturday. But I could see them winning tonight and then rolling 138 00:09:24.559 --> 00:09:28.159 out of bed Saturday and losing that game. Yeah, that too. I 139 00:09:28.159 --> 00:09:31.159 mean it could either one. If they win tonight, you're thinking, are 140 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:33.919 you thinking, oh, great, they played well tonight. That means it's 141 00:09:33.919 --> 00:09:39.120 going to carry over. No, yeah, because it means nothing. It 142 00:09:39.240 --> 00:09:43.200 means nothing. Yeah, so I yeah, I don't know it. This 143 00:09:43.240 --> 00:09:48.200 is the most interesting week of the of the season. I think so too. 144 00:09:48.279 --> 00:09:50.279 I think so too. You know, you know, in a two 145 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:56.519 game series, very much so, given what we've seen, if they had 146 00:09:56.559 --> 00:09:58.679 been playing well like all seasons, you say, oh, they're playing well, 147 00:09:58.679 --> 00:10:01.480 they're gonn They're going to sweep. No, not the case. Did 148 00:10:01.519 --> 00:10:03.879 you did you pay attention to yesterday? You have any breaking news with the 149 00:10:05.000 --> 00:10:07.480 signings from yesterday? Did you pay attention some of them? Some of the 150 00:10:07.720 --> 00:10:11.879 we talked about a bunch of them. You have it breaking news? Or 151 00:10:11.080 --> 00:10:15.480 I have one of them? There was an interesting thing that his recruit how 152 00:10:15.480 --> 00:10:18.799 his recruitment went, well, say that, but just the overall ranking not 153 00:10:18.919 --> 00:10:22.360 very good. Oh yeah, you're talking not very good. No, I 154 00:10:22.399 --> 00:10:24.679 was just gonna say not very good. But but does it really matter? 155 00:10:24.799 --> 00:10:28.440 No? It never hass I saw you exactly. I mean, it was 156 00:10:28.519 --> 00:10:31.720 nice for jad Fish to be, you know, have his recruit recruiting uh 157 00:10:33.360 --> 00:10:37.519 uh seasons or whatever, you know, ranked really high. And you know 158 00:10:37.559 --> 00:10:39.080 what if you're if you're ranked up high, you're gonna say, hey, 159 00:10:39.080 --> 00:10:43.000 we're you know, we are recruiting when great and we're ranked high. And 160 00:10:43.039 --> 00:10:45.159 if you're not, you're gonna say, what is it? Well, it 161 00:10:45.200 --> 00:10:48.039 hadn't been going well this year. Look, here's what I saw is that, 162 00:10:48.679 --> 00:10:52.919 you know, the running back room emptied out, you know this year, 163 00:10:52.960 --> 00:10:56.240 and they went and got a couple of running backs that, as we 164 00:10:56.240 --> 00:10:58.840 talked about yesterday, people say, well from Sanisday State in New Mexico. 165 00:10:58.879 --> 00:11:01.120 But yeah, they're pretty dam good though. And then they went and got 166 00:11:01.279 --> 00:11:05.440 some alignment, which you know, which they need, and so you know, 167 00:11:05.440 --> 00:11:09.320 do they need to go get a quarterback? No, So they lost 168 00:11:09.360 --> 00:11:11.279 them on a big deal. They lost that guy to Washington. You know, 169 00:11:11.320 --> 00:11:15.120 they they've got, you know, the kid from Colorado who sat out 170 00:11:15.159 --> 00:11:16.879 last year. He's gonna be in the system for a lot, right, 171 00:11:18.759 --> 00:11:20.759 you know, they got a you know, a sophomore quarterback who was you 172 00:11:20.799 --> 00:11:24.519 know, who's gonna be in the Heisman discussion. So the fact that they 173 00:11:24.559 --> 00:11:28.000 lost that quarterback that followed, you know, the recruit that followed a jed 174 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:31.799 to Washington, to me is not a big deal. But that's going to 175 00:11:31.879 --> 00:11:35.559 count against you, you know, when they're doing new recruiting ranking. So 176 00:11:35.600 --> 00:11:39.159 I don't really yeah, you know, I think it was a SU media 177 00:11:39.200 --> 00:11:43.840 member kind of trying to point it out how Colorado and Arizona at the bottom 178 00:11:43.840 --> 00:11:48.840 of it. But I mean Arizona and Arizona and Arizona State are in two 179 00:11:48.879 --> 00:11:54.840 different Arizona's not gonna use recruiting through you know what as you would use it 180 00:11:54.919 --> 00:11:56.600 as. Right. Look, you know what, we'll see you on the 181 00:11:56.600 --> 00:11:58.759 field, Yeah, exactly right. And and and you know, if I'm 182 00:11:58.759 --> 00:12:01.639 picking in Arizona Arizona State game right now, I'm saying that's gonna kick your 183 00:12:01.639 --> 00:12:05.919 ass again. Yeah. Now, maybe Ace gets better by that time. 184 00:12:05.240 --> 00:12:09.320 I don't know. But what I right now, as we saw last year, 185 00:12:09.519 --> 00:12:13.200 and when you compare the seventy to seven game to what a su did 186 00:12:13.600 --> 00:12:16.879 the next year, I would fully expect Arizona to not that game would not 187 00:12:18.080 --> 00:12:22.559 flip by you know, forty points, uh, you know, next year. 188 00:12:22.960 --> 00:12:26.799 So you know it's hard player development. Plus you also mean you know 189 00:12:26.840 --> 00:12:31.759 you had a coaching change too. Yeah, so no, that that that 190 00:12:31.799 --> 00:12:33.559 one doesn't worry the ranking. Yeah, rank to me, not even a 191 00:12:33.600 --> 00:12:37.159 little bit. Yeah me either, tell me and we go back to this, 192 00:12:37.159 --> 00:12:41.039 because this is what we know. He didn't He went and got the 193 00:12:41.080 --> 00:12:43.600 guys you coach him up, play them o blah blah blah. He didn't 194 00:12:43.600 --> 00:12:46.559 care. Well, a bunch of two stars, two stars scoobies and we're 195 00:12:46.600 --> 00:12:48.679 good. Yeah, he didn't care one lick about it. You know. 196 00:12:48.919 --> 00:12:52.120 Yeah. He was always like, you know, give us whatever ranking you 197 00:12:52.120 --> 00:12:54.440 want to give us, we'll find out. And then back then it was 198 00:12:54.440 --> 00:12:58.519 like, we'll find out in three years how good these guys are, because 199 00:12:58.519 --> 00:13:01.519 they'd assume a red shirt. And then a couple of years. But you 200 00:13:01.559 --> 00:13:03.080 know, a couple of years playing you still kind of measured. Yeah. 201 00:13:03.159 --> 00:13:05.600 Yeah, but you know, once in a while, you get you get 202 00:13:05.960 --> 00:13:09.440 a team act in here and uh, and right, well, that's then 203 00:13:09.480 --> 00:13:13.960 he's he's a five star dude. Yeah, I mean he isn't the best 204 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:18.840 guy ever to play too, he could be well no, no, no, 205 00:13:18.840 --> 00:13:20.200 no, coming in, yeah, coming in. Yes, the kids 206 00:13:20.200 --> 00:13:24.559 from South Point would have been surpassing. Yeah, because he's although the best 207 00:13:24.600 --> 00:13:28.000 recruit ever. Yeah, Okay, we'll see, we'll see what happens, 208 00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:31.159 because you can ever really gauge until they've come here and played and done a 209 00:13:31.200 --> 00:13:35.120 lot of stuff. So here we are, we'll figure it out. Hey, 210 00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:37.879 let's go to the break. Now, let's just okay, it's all 211 00:13:37.960 --> 00:13:41.120 right. 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This is High on the Ball 285 00:18:56.319 --> 00:19:03.200 with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Sports fourteen fifty. Subscribe now to the 286 00:19:03.200 --> 00:19:07.400 podcast on the iHeartRadio while just Surgery I on the Ball. Hey, welcome 287 00:19:07.400 --> 00:19:11.559 back to win the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. 288 00:19:11.720 --> 00:19:14.279 He's chickens. Also now on the phone, we have Joe Tafoya, 289 00:19:14.759 --> 00:19:18.680 former UA football player and Super Bowl participant with Seattle back in the day. 290 00:19:18.720 --> 00:19:23.880 Does it seem like a long time ago? Joe, Well, now that 291 00:19:23.960 --> 00:19:27.599 you say it, my goodness, I'm starting to feel old. As soon 292 00:19:27.640 --> 00:19:33.759 as you said that I had a lower back pain a little bit. Oh 293 00:19:33.799 --> 00:19:37.200 you need to know, Joe. Oh, you need to know, Joe 294 00:19:37.279 --> 00:19:40.400 about where where we're coming from, because I saw this when I was you 295 00:19:40.440 --> 00:19:44.559 know you're looking you up. Yes, you were born after I got out 296 00:19:44.559 --> 00:19:47.079 of high school. So if you're talking old, you're talking the two guys 297 00:19:47.079 --> 00:19:51.480 sitting over here. So that's all you do. Know we have more than 298 00:19:51.519 --> 00:19:55.160 back pain. Yeah, we have more than back pain, Joe, that's 299 00:19:55.200 --> 00:20:00.000 no question exactly issues going on. Yeah. I've lived in dog years though, 300 00:20:00.119 --> 00:20:03.160 boys, so so uh, you know we were talking off aired. 301 00:20:03.240 --> 00:20:04.920 You know that. You know, we've talked to a couple of the guys 302 00:20:04.920 --> 00:20:07.799 who have been in Super Bowls, none of them who won a Super Bowl, 303 00:20:08.000 --> 00:20:12.799 And after all this time that it still stings for you guys. You 304 00:20:12.839 --> 00:20:17.480 know when you think about that game and you think about that year, what 305 00:20:17.519 --> 00:20:21.400 do you think about when you think of the Super Bowl? Okay, first, 306 00:20:21.400 --> 00:20:26.720 you call me old, bad memory. Please don't hang up, Please 307 00:20:26.720 --> 00:20:30.880 don't hang up. You know. The one thing that I will say is 308 00:20:30.920 --> 00:20:37.200 that it's truly an experience. Like going through that whole thing is it's hard 309 00:20:37.200 --> 00:20:41.880 to focus on the game itself until you're in the game. I remember opening 310 00:20:41.960 --> 00:20:47.480 kickoff, looking up and just seeing all the flashes go on for opening kickoff, 311 00:20:48.039 --> 00:20:51.680 and then I looked over and tried to catch my guy that was running 312 00:20:51.680 --> 00:20:57.400 past me, and they made the tackle. The moment was where was that? 313 00:20:57.440 --> 00:21:02.440 Where was your game? Was? Experience? I? Detroit? Detroit? 314 00:21:02.920 --> 00:21:06.359 So you guys were, yeah, okay in the in the dome. 315 00:21:07.160 --> 00:21:10.640 But again going back to you know, well, let's get okay, let's 316 00:21:10.640 --> 00:21:14.599 get back to a better time when you won the conference championship and you knew 317 00:21:14.640 --> 00:21:17.759 you were going to the super Bowl. You know, you're on the field, 318 00:21:17.799 --> 00:21:18.759 You've won the game, You're going to the super Bowl. What was 319 00:21:18.799 --> 00:21:25.759 that like? Wow, there's a lot of electricity in the air there. 320 00:21:25.799 --> 00:21:29.839 The fans are just going bananas. You can feel it everywhere you go. 321 00:21:29.920 --> 00:21:33.480 You go through anywhere in town, and everybody's so excited. They're cheering you 322 00:21:33.519 --> 00:21:37.119 on. You see the flags everywhere, the colors. Everyone's in a good 323 00:21:37.160 --> 00:21:42.400 mood and happy. I just remember that being one of my proudest moments to 324 00:21:42.440 --> 00:21:45.480 walk off of that field knowing that we were going to the super Bowl. 325 00:21:47.000 --> 00:21:49.519 Such a great experience, good for my family, good for my friends, 326 00:21:49.640 --> 00:21:55.279 my high school coaches were proud. College coaches were calling me up. You 327 00:21:55.319 --> 00:22:00.319 know, everybody's watching, and so if anyone has had a hand in helping 328 00:22:00.359 --> 00:22:03.920 you get to that spot, they call you up and they're proud too. 329 00:22:03.039 --> 00:22:07.680 It's not just you, there's a whole line of people that helped you get 330 00:22:07.720 --> 00:22:10.480 there and you make them proud as well. So that for me was the 331 00:22:10.519 --> 00:22:12.960 best part. So from that moment to the moment where all those guys are 332 00:22:12.960 --> 00:22:18.359 calling you for tickets, how long did that last? That does happen? 333 00:22:19.480 --> 00:22:26.400 Everybody in the NFL who's active is allotted to tickets and they tell you not 334 00:22:26.480 --> 00:22:30.000 to sell them, but everybody does it anyway, make a little extra money. 335 00:22:30.599 --> 00:22:33.039 And going to the Super Bowl, you know that there's a lot going 336 00:22:33.079 --> 00:22:36.799 on down there. There's a lot for young guys to get into trouble with. 337 00:22:37.319 --> 00:22:41.119 But when you're playing in the Super Bowl, they allow you fifteen tickets. 338 00:22:41.720 --> 00:22:45.880 So that's what the real money's made, unless you unless you have a 339 00:22:45.880 --> 00:22:48.880 lot of family you really care about and you want to all of them the 340 00:22:48.920 --> 00:22:53.519 game. So how many did you have an expense for? Everybody? Did 341 00:22:53.559 --> 00:23:00.160 you use the law? I used eight? I think the rest nice I 342 00:23:00.279 --> 00:23:04.400 paid for everybody's dinners and plane flight. Yes, it was a whole symbiotic 343 00:23:04.440 --> 00:23:08.039 thing. Man. Nice. So you guys won that conference championship at home, 344 00:23:08.119 --> 00:23:12.519 you and so we all know what and we've all seen what the Seattle 345 00:23:12.599 --> 00:23:17.319 fans and the Seattle crowds are like. You know, do you remember how 346 00:23:17.400 --> 00:23:19.799 loud it? God? And was it ever louder to you than it was? 347 00:23:19.880 --> 00:23:25.640 You know, at the end of that game. There was a moment 348 00:23:25.839 --> 00:23:29.559 prior to the game when I was getting dressed in the locker room. And 349 00:23:29.599 --> 00:23:36.640 I remember the locker rooms underneath the stadium and the soutain zone, and there's 350 00:23:36.799 --> 00:23:40.200 just a small door that exits and it goes to the tunnel that enters the 351 00:23:40.240 --> 00:23:42.079 stadium. And as the stadium was filling up, I was sitting at my 352 00:23:42.119 --> 00:23:45.279 locker, you know, I get my pads on, I started putting my 353 00:23:45.319 --> 00:23:48.880 helmet on, ready to go out, and somebody opens the door and this 354 00:23:49.079 --> 00:23:53.000 electricity just came into the room and you could see it and everybody they were 355 00:23:53.039 --> 00:23:57.039 just like vibrating at a higher frequency. Man, everybody was fired up. 356 00:23:57.519 --> 00:24:02.079 And that moment, walking out into the game, I knew for for sure 357 00:24:02.279 --> 00:24:03.960 that no one had a chance against us. Yeah, So I've asked the 358 00:24:04.039 --> 00:24:08.160 guys all this week. So one, did you cry at the national anthem? 359 00:24:08.680 --> 00:24:15.000 And will you nervous before the game? I'm not really a crier. 360 00:24:15.240 --> 00:24:21.039 I was raised by an old school Hispanic dad. I had one of those 361 00:24:22.720 --> 00:24:26.359 we just talked about a little emotional yah. But no, what was the 362 00:24:26.359 --> 00:24:30.400 second part of that question, if you were nervous before the game? Oh? 363 00:24:30.480 --> 00:24:34.440 Yeah, I got nervous before every game high school, college. My 364 00:24:34.960 --> 00:24:38.440 m O was a go and I would throw up in the bathroom before every 365 00:24:38.440 --> 00:24:41.960 game, just like playing an empty stomach. Wow. Very nervous, very 366 00:24:42.039 --> 00:24:47.319 very nervous. Well, okay, so let's go back to, you know, 367 00:24:47.440 --> 00:24:48.960 leading up. So there's a two week gap. Is that is that 368 00:24:49.000 --> 00:24:53.319 too long? Would you have rather played the game the next week or do 369 00:24:53.359 --> 00:24:57.359 you just feel like you needed some time to kind of decompress from realizing you're 370 00:24:57.400 --> 00:25:02.640 in the super Bowl and then some time to get ready for it. You 371 00:25:02.720 --> 00:25:07.079 like the two week gap. I think there's two sides to that. As 372 00:25:07.119 --> 00:25:11.119 a football player, purely an athlete, I think that's too long of a 373 00:25:11.119 --> 00:25:14.599 gap. I would like to have it the next week where you just get 374 00:25:14.599 --> 00:25:18.720 out and get on the field. But you know, it's a once in 375 00:25:18.759 --> 00:25:23.960 a lifetime experience if that. And so there are a lot of elements leading 376 00:25:25.000 --> 00:25:27.960 up to the game. You've got, you know, they do your send 377 00:25:27.960 --> 00:25:32.839 offs at your city. Your home city doesn't send offs, and then you 378 00:25:33.039 --> 00:25:36.799 arrive and you have to do all these events, including media day. There's 379 00:25:36.880 --> 00:25:41.440 so much that goes into it. I don't think the organization would be prepared 380 00:25:41.319 --> 00:25:45.559 in one week. There's just so much that's going on. But as an 381 00:25:45.559 --> 00:25:48.240 athlete, yeah, it's a little too long. Well, I'm sure you 382 00:25:48.279 --> 00:25:52.240 went to the media day. Did you get You know how crazy it is 383 00:25:52.400 --> 00:25:56.519 my reporters and non reporters asking them quick did get Did you get asked any 384 00:25:56.599 --> 00:26:07.920 dumb questions? I think yeah, absolutely. I just remember when I was 385 00:26:07.960 --> 00:26:11.680 down on the field for media day, they blew a whistle and it was 386 00:26:11.720 --> 00:26:14.440 like a scene from Lord of the Rings. You know, all these all 387 00:26:14.480 --> 00:26:18.960 these media people are pouring down into the medium down onto the field, and 388 00:26:19.039 --> 00:26:22.920 at one point I had a German reporter speaking to me in German. I 389 00:26:22.960 --> 00:26:30.000 don't speak German. I had a Mexican univision. There was a guy holding 390 00:26:30.039 --> 00:26:34.839 a Troy Polamalo handpuppet and he was trying to talk to me. There was 391 00:26:34.960 --> 00:26:40.960 Gilbert Godfrey Junior was standing next to me, cracking jokes. There was like 392 00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:45.279 five cameras in my face, all asking I don't even remember what they're asking, 393 00:26:45.440 --> 00:26:48.839 just the moment itself stupid and ridiculous. Right, So, you don't 394 00:26:48.839 --> 00:26:53.240 speak Spanish or you do? I understand a lot of Spanish, but I'm 395 00:26:53.400 --> 00:26:57.599 not comfortable speaking in My whole family speaks Spanish. My brother's wife doesn't even 396 00:26:57.599 --> 00:27:00.279 speak any English. I guess they did. Did your parents? Did your 397 00:27:00.319 --> 00:27:03.480 parents yell at you for that growing up? You know? Mine did? 398 00:27:03.680 --> 00:27:07.519 Mine were like, yeah, I can't believe you don't speak you can't. 399 00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:10.920 You know, they would yell at me. They wanted me to learn English, 400 00:27:11.039 --> 00:27:12.920 so you know, English is the first language. When they started putting 401 00:27:14.000 --> 00:27:18.119 you in those English as the second language classes early on, you know you 402 00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:21.440 I don't know, my parents didn't want me to do that. Yeah, 403 00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:26.200 all right? So okay, thinking thing about that that week outside of football 404 00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:29.160 players, right, because there were probably you know, there's always hall of 405 00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:32.880 famers or not stuff like that. Who was the most famous or maybe the 406 00:27:33.240 --> 00:27:36.240 person that you saw that you were like, Okay, this is really cool 407 00:27:36.240 --> 00:27:40.519 to see this person here was there anybody like that? Oh? Man, 408 00:27:40.559 --> 00:27:44.920 there was a couple of people like that. I'm in the tunnel getting ready 409 00:27:44.960 --> 00:27:48.720 to go out into the onto the field, and you know, we're lined 410 00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:52.039 up as a defense, and there's a sky standing next to me. It 411 00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:55.799 was kind of long hair, and I look over and it's Mick Jagger. 412 00:27:56.880 --> 00:28:00.440 Oh wow, I was. I was standing right next to my dagger. 413 00:28:00.759 --> 00:28:06.759 Wow. You had to him and you know the singer Seal? Yeah, 414 00:28:06.559 --> 00:28:10.160 yeah, remember, Yeah, he came into our locker room and I walked 415 00:28:10.160 --> 00:28:15.079 over to try to shake his hand. Any big time me. You should 416 00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:18.079 have knocked him down from behind, you know, just from a forearm, 417 00:28:18.119 --> 00:28:22.880 shiver in the back or something. That's what that? Yeah, too funny. 418 00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:26.000 Who's the half time one of his songs? Anyway? Well, the 419 00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:29.559 halftime. But there's there's so much type. There's a lot of craziness going 420 00:28:29.599 --> 00:28:33.519 on. You know, there's every party that you go to, there's another 421 00:28:33.359 --> 00:28:37.559 star studded lineup behind it. Who's who's the halftime guests? Do you remember 422 00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:45.000 that? It was the Roman Stone? Well that's why. So you you 423 00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:47.880 had been like a mountain over him. I mean, isn't he pretty small? 424 00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:52.119 Oh yeah, he's tiny. There's a really tall country singer. I 425 00:28:52.119 --> 00:28:55.720 can't remember his name. He was also in there with us. He sang 426 00:28:55.759 --> 00:28:59.920 the national anthems for US. Okay, when you're at juve and you're thinking, 427 00:29:00.359 --> 00:29:02.160 God, I just got to get to the league. I just got 428 00:29:02.160 --> 00:29:03.799 to get to the league. And then when you get to the get to 429 00:29:03.799 --> 00:29:07.119 the league, you just got to get to the super Bowl? Is that 430 00:29:07.160 --> 00:29:15.119 how it is. I'm more of a yuleman, have such a hard work 431 00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:19.640 ethic and a workman's attitude that I usually try not to think too far ahead. 432 00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:26.480 Most of my NFL career was spent on the bubble, so I was 433 00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:30.720 mostly thinking I got to make the team, you know, and then one 434 00:29:30.759 --> 00:29:34.000 thing leads to another. Some guy gets injured, you make a couple of 435 00:29:34.000 --> 00:29:40.279 good plays, and really, truly it's about luck more than anything, and 436 00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:47.119 it's being in the right situation with the right group of guys. So what 437 00:29:47.599 --> 00:29:51.000 everyone's dream is to go to the super Bowl. When you're playing in your 438 00:29:51.039 --> 00:29:53.599 backyard and you're throwing the ball with your friends, you want to be in 439 00:29:53.640 --> 00:29:59.599 the super Bowl. And my moment was when the ball was kicked off and 440 00:29:59.680 --> 00:30:02.880 opening kickoff. I was on the field for opening kickoff, and I just 441 00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:07.720 kind of got lost in the moment. But I never really thought I need 442 00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:11.160 to get there. It was mind right, you hope to get there obviously. 443 00:30:12.000 --> 00:30:15.480 Yeah, okay, so let's let's let's walk through the game a little 444 00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:21.000 bit. You know, the Steelers defense was really damn good that year. 445 00:30:21.799 --> 00:30:25.599 Hindes Ward was you know, went off all that stuff. But as you're 446 00:30:25.599 --> 00:30:27.319 going through the game, you know, where's your mind? You know? 447 00:30:27.559 --> 00:30:30.240 I asked this of who do I think who do we have the other day 448 00:30:30.279 --> 00:30:33.799 that I think it was Marquis Flowers, yes, and I was just asking 449 00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:37.480 him, Okay, what are you doing on the sidelines during a game? 450 00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:41.079 You know? What's what? What's what? You know? Are you watching 451 00:30:41.119 --> 00:30:44.839 the game? Are you are you preparing for when you go in again? 452 00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:48.000 What are you doing on the sidelines during this? During the Super Bowl? 453 00:30:48.799 --> 00:30:55.799 During the Super Bowl? Yeah, it just at some point, maybe after 454 00:30:55.839 --> 00:30:59.720 the first quarter or in the first quarter, after you've run a couple of 455 00:30:59.759 --> 00:31:03.839 plays, is it literally just turns back into a football game. And that's 456 00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:07.400 the mentality that most guys have on the sideline. Now, the coaches were 457 00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:10.960 a little different, They were in a different space mind wise. They were 458 00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:15.079 a little more amped up and felt the pressure more than we did. But 459 00:31:15.119 --> 00:31:18.720 I have to say that, like on the sideline, it turns into another 460 00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:21.799 game, and if you don't treat it like that, then nerves get you, 461 00:31:22.279 --> 00:31:25.880 and you know, every play seems a lot bigger than what it is. 462 00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:27.640 They get a first down, Oh no, the world's falling apart. 463 00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:34.119 But if you have played long enough, and I had been in my eighteenth 464 00:31:34.160 --> 00:31:40.200 year of organized football at that point, then at some point it's just you 465 00:31:40.200 --> 00:31:44.960 know, another this is another play on the sideline. I would usually watch 466 00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:49.480 the games if there were plays that we need to refresh on, or if 467 00:31:49.519 --> 00:31:53.200 they were running a formation no one was familiar with, or somebody was out 468 00:31:53.200 --> 00:31:56.599 of gap on a couple of plays on the sideline. They'd bring you these 469 00:31:57.079 --> 00:32:00.200 cards, or they used to bring you these cars. Now they have tablets. 470 00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:05.039 You review all of that stuff. Once you get done with that, 471 00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:08.519 then you can go watch the game. You're in Seattle, right, You're 472 00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:12.480 in Seattle. I'm in Seattle, Yeah, Seattle. Okay, if we 473 00:32:12.519 --> 00:32:15.960 can, I only we only have like too too many stuff? How how 474 00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:19.279 is it? Well? I won't go there yet. What do you think 475 00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:22.519 about the you of a football situation. Now, were you part of the 476 00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:25.000 group that met with the coach last night? I was, yeah, how'd 477 00:32:25.039 --> 00:32:28.000 that go? I was on the phone with them the other day. Yeah, 478 00:32:28.039 --> 00:32:30.519 I was really really impressed. I've known him for many years. He 479 00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:35.480 interned and he came in interned. I played football with his brother, and 480 00:32:35.519 --> 00:32:37.720 so we've known each other. I sent him a text a while back and 481 00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:40.640 he actually called me and I said, coach, don't call me, start 482 00:32:40.680 --> 00:32:45.960 calling recruits. Man. But that's the kind of person he is, you 483 00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:47.160 know, He's like, I got a list of a thousand people I need 484 00:32:47.200 --> 00:32:50.079 to get back to. I'm going to get back to every one of them. 485 00:32:50.759 --> 00:32:54.599 Tenacious. It makes you feel welcome, you know. So so now 486 00:32:54.640 --> 00:33:00.759 you're in Seattle, uh kind of following Fish maybe been there? What's the 487 00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:07.039 buzz up there? And there's mixed reviews. You know a lot of people 488 00:33:07.599 --> 00:33:10.799 didn't really understand why the other coach had left. You know, those are 489 00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:17.079 just your every average, everyday fans that don't pay that close attention. Some 490 00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:23.599 people that were die hard Husky fans don't like Fish. They want their coach 491 00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:28.039 back, of course. And then you've got a handful of people who understand 492 00:33:28.079 --> 00:33:31.240 that he came from a program that he really revamped and rebuilt, and I 493 00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:37.440 think besides the optimism that comes with that, you know, it's the college 494 00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:42.279 game is so different now with all the ni O money and players leaving in 495 00:33:42.359 --> 00:33:45.519 portals and stuff. There's so much uncertainty. You have to have stability, 496 00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:49.519 and when you have a guy who's traveled around as much as Fish as it 497 00:33:49.640 --> 00:33:52.319 has, it's kind of hard to say, we got our guy, We're 498 00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:54.599 good. You know. It feels like that with Brennan, but I'm not 499 00:33:54.599 --> 00:33:58.599 sure if it was like those Fish. I think that's one of the things 500 00:33:58.640 --> 00:34:01.000 that people feel about Brennan. And you know, as much as as much 501 00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:05.720 as Arizona fans won to think that Jed was going to be here for a 502 00:34:05.759 --> 00:34:08.119 long time, I think in their heart of hearts, they realized, you 503 00:34:08.119 --> 00:34:12.119 know, he was only to be here as long as until he could get, 504 00:34:12.159 --> 00:34:14.960 you know, have a lot better job, which he ultimately did. 505 00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:19.000 But you gotta admit though him, he did a great job here. I 506 00:34:19.000 --> 00:34:22.199 do admit that, and I understand, you know, there's a business aspect 507 00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:24.960 for this. He's got a family, that's if that's what he was shooting 508 00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:30.920 for from the beginning. He didn't really let that be known to us as 509 00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:34.800 alumni. He kind of told us that he wanted to be around. But 510 00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:37.079 you know, everything's got a price, so as soon as they put the 511 00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:40.480 right money on the table for you, you're probably going to sell. All 512 00:34:40.519 --> 00:34:45.079 right. Last question, A great job was taking us from one to eleven 513 00:34:45.159 --> 00:34:49.119 to you know, we were slated to be in the top ten, maybe 514 00:34:49.159 --> 00:34:52.440 even the top five next year. Right right, Okay, Last question and 515 00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:55.159 again a question that we ask of everybody. We've talked to you this week 516 00:34:55.159 --> 00:35:00.000 about the Super Bowl and taking into account that you know, not a great 517 00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:01.559 memory because you guys, you lost the game. Do you watch the Super 518 00:35:01.559 --> 00:35:07.199 Bowl? Or if you or how do you watch the Super Bowl? A? 519 00:35:08.440 --> 00:35:14.519 Yes, I watched the Super Bowl. I usually will watch it at 520 00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:19.880 somebody's house who's making something delicious, So if anybody has tacos, I'm over 521 00:35:19.920 --> 00:35:25.559 there and make a lot of qualifications for watching the game wherever I go. 522 00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:29.880 I like to go with friends and people that you know, they don't want 523 00:35:29.920 --> 00:35:32.000 to ask me a million questions, what's what's going on with display? They 524 00:35:32.000 --> 00:35:36.280 want to I like to be a spectator too, don't want to just watch 525 00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:39.199 the game well before with that. So when you do watch a game, 526 00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:44.280 how do you watch a game and analytically or just kind of before enjoyment. 527 00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:49.480 Yeah, no, I can't help but watch it analytically. After reviewing thousands 528 00:35:49.480 --> 00:35:52.559 and thousands of hours film. You know, you see formations, you see 529 00:35:52.840 --> 00:35:57.880 different hand placements, you understand down distance, you're looking at the clock, 530 00:35:58.840 --> 00:36:01.159 all those things factoring, and you can sometimes read the play ahead of time. 531 00:36:01.360 --> 00:36:04.519 When my friends will say, what, you know, what happened on 532 00:36:04.519 --> 00:36:06.599 that play? Well, that's a holding penalty, so it's going to come 533 00:36:06.599 --> 00:36:12.159 back anyway. I watch it with an very experienced eye, say that much. 534 00:36:12.440 --> 00:36:15.480 Yeah, okay, very cool, Joe, thanks for joining us. 535 00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:17.679 Appreciate you right, well, thanks for having me. Boys, Yeah, 536 00:36:17.719 --> 00:36:22.559 take care. Thanks as they seeing Hispanic world call lev En. That's right, 537 00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:25.719 good luck, good luck. We well, all right, let's take 538 00:36:25.719 --> 00:36:29.639 our next break. We're going to be back again. We've got doctor Kevin 539 00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:32.920 Lehman coming in, so we'll get some some thoughts on you know, just 540 00:36:34.119 --> 00:36:37.559 all the things, all the issues that athletes and whatnot are facing out there. 541 00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:40.079 Probably talked a little bit about his Buffalo bills. Then again, maybe 542 00:36:40.119 --> 00:36:44.559 not after what happened to them. But we'll be right back with We'll take 543 00:36:44.559 --> 00:36:46.360 your costs five two zero, four, one, six, seventy four forty. 544 00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:51.480 You're an AresOne men's basketball fan. You know it's been successful for nearly 545 00:36:51.519 --> 00:36:53.840 forty years. 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Eligibility and deposit restrictions apply. Terms at Sportsbook dot DraftKings dot com 598 00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:49.440 slash football terms. And speaking of that, we are tomorrow in our second 599 00:40:49.519 --> 00:40:53.599 hour, we're gonna have Jack McGruder in our our favorite gambling addict. Shouldn't 600 00:40:53.719 --> 00:40:57.320 call him an addict. Is he gonna tell us what not to do or 601 00:40:57.320 --> 00:41:00.719 what to do? Well, he's he's gonna tell us things to think about 602 00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:05.239 doing. Then then you decide to go whether or not you should go the 603 00:41:05.519 --> 00:41:08.599 way. But Jack's gonna come in here. We're going to talk super Bowl 604 00:41:08.639 --> 00:41:13.599 proposition bets and probably you know who thinks gonna cover all that kind of stuff. 605 00:41:13.599 --> 00:41:17.800 So we'll do a super Bowl super Bowl betting session with Jack in the 606 00:41:17.840 --> 00:41:21.960 second hour tomorrow. You know, we were talking about are we going to 607 00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:24.440 get somebody who's won a super Bowl on our show? And in fact we 608 00:41:24.480 --> 00:41:29.039 are tomorrow. Josh Miller, who was a punter on the Dick Tomy teams 609 00:41:29.079 --> 00:41:30.880 in the early nineties. I think he was a punter on the ninety three 610 00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:36.719 team. He was played thirteen years in the NFL. He was a punter 611 00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:39.320 for the Patriots the year that they won the Super Bowl in two thousand and 612 00:41:39.519 --> 00:41:44.119 five, they beat the Eagles. So Josh is going to join us tomorrow 613 00:41:44.400 --> 00:41:46.440 and so we'll actually get to hear from somebody of what it felt like to 614 00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:50.880 not only playing at Super Bowl, but win one. So that'll be fun. 615 00:41:51.239 --> 00:41:52.360 Yeah, Okay, we've had him all before too. Yeah, we 616 00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:54.599 had him on. I went to look back, it's been three years. 617 00:41:54.840 --> 00:41:59.760 Yeah, we had him on. And right after we right after we got 618 00:41:59.760 --> 00:42:01.840 here, right right, we just do one of the better, probably the 619 00:42:01.840 --> 00:42:05.360 best putter we've ever covered here. Yeah, you know, well I always 620 00:42:05.400 --> 00:42:09.199 go back to after the ninety three season, and uh, you know, 621 00:42:09.320 --> 00:42:13.519 I've told the story many times that I played I played summer baseball with Dick 622 00:42:13.599 --> 00:42:16.079 Tomy and we were just having a chat. We always avoided talking football with 623 00:42:16.159 --> 00:42:19.480 him, but one time, I know, we got into it and we 624 00:42:19.519 --> 00:42:21.440 were telling him about, you know, how good you guys are going to 625 00:42:21.480 --> 00:42:23.840 be in ninety four? Right that was the season that yea that they were 626 00:42:23.840 --> 00:42:28.079 gonna be sports They were Sports Illustrated number one and all that stuff. And 627 00:42:28.119 --> 00:42:29.800 we said, you know what, you know, what do you think, 628 00:42:29.800 --> 00:42:30.559 Dick? I mean, you guys gonna be really good. He goes, 629 00:42:31.079 --> 00:42:37.199 whatever happens this season, just remember we're going in there. We're going in 630 00:42:37.239 --> 00:42:39.719 without a punter. We don't have a punter. And he said, just 631 00:42:40.159 --> 00:42:45.679 pay attention to that. And I'm like, how the how bad can it 632 00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:46.920 be if you just tell, you know, go get a punter. Right, 633 00:42:46.960 --> 00:42:50.400 there should be somebody on capus who can kick. But he made the 634 00:42:50.440 --> 00:42:53.199 point because you know, Dick was always like special teams was as important as 635 00:42:53.199 --> 00:42:58.440 the other two, and it was. It turned out, no question that 636 00:42:58.519 --> 00:43:00.519 they part of why they were so good that year before. It's funny because 637 00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:04.400 of Josh Mill. It's funny you talk about that infenditing coaches out there listening. 638 00:43:05.079 --> 00:43:07.000 It's the you know, it's not between the teams on the field, 639 00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:09.960 with the players on the field. You need a good goalie, punter, 640 00:43:10.280 --> 00:43:14.519 kicker. How many times I kickers lost two games? Yeah, think about, 641 00:43:14.559 --> 00:43:20.320 think about and what comes mind is Mike Stoop's time here where it seemed 642 00:43:20.320 --> 00:43:23.519 like special teams were an afterthought. Yeah right, and you thought if you 643 00:43:23.639 --> 00:43:27.360 just had a little bit better special teams, you'd win a game or two 644 00:43:27.440 --> 00:43:30.199 more, you'd be better. How many times did did the Arizona lose and 645 00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:37.400 or win with the kicker? Yeah? You know stoops first year they had 646 00:43:37.480 --> 00:43:42.000 Wisconsin by the you know what over here, remember that game and the storm 647 00:43:42.079 --> 00:43:44.639 during the game and all that stuff, and they missed a field at the 648 00:43:44.719 --> 00:43:45.800 end of the game that would have won they It would have been a huge 649 00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:47.440 win for him, like it would have been. I think it was their 650 00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:51.880 second or third game under him, you know, and they end up going 651 00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:55.960 three. Well Richrod with yeah, although he was very good right the Michigan 652 00:43:57.039 --> 00:44:00.159 SUSC. I mean, those guys make a big difference. And I'll just 653 00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:06.000 never forget Dick Tomy saying that's how important our punner was in nineteen ninety three, 654 00:44:06.039 --> 00:44:07.920 that in nineteen ninety four one of our big worries is that we don't 655 00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:13.239 have a punner. I'm like, Wow, Okay, who was the punner 656 00:44:13.840 --> 00:44:15.519 that year? I'd have to look it up. I don't remember. I 657 00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:17.880 don't remember. I was not covering the team back then, but I do 658 00:44:17.960 --> 00:44:21.800 remember when he first got here, uh, because I think I was. 659 00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:24.119 That was my last year that they said watch this kid, he's gonna be 660 00:44:24.159 --> 00:44:28.239 good. Right, we have a call. Let's take this. Hi, 661 00:44:28.280 --> 00:44:30.800 you're on the air, and Ie on the ball. Hey Jay, Hey 662 00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:35.880 Steve, this is done? Don what's up? How you guys doing it 663 00:44:36.159 --> 00:44:38.440 good? Thanks? Did you listen to our interview yesterday with the ad from 664 00:44:38.519 --> 00:44:44.000 you and M I did not. I missed it and I haven't got a 665 00:44:44.079 --> 00:44:46.800 chance to catch up on the podcast yet, but I will. Okay, 666 00:44:46.840 --> 00:44:52.920 cool, But what I want I wanted to apologize to the class for my 667 00:44:54.159 --> 00:45:04.400 for my cavalier assessment of the coaching job that Tommy Lloyd is doing. I 668 00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:10.840 can't I refresh us. I went back and I watched the highlights, and 669 00:45:12.760 --> 00:45:21.599 everything seems to be going great done. This is your you know, after 670 00:45:21.639 --> 00:45:24.679 I called the other day and the gentleman behind me that they called in after 671 00:45:24.719 --> 00:45:28.159 me, and he kind of called. He said he didn't know if I 672 00:45:28.199 --> 00:45:30.159 go to the games and stuff, and I do not. I used to 673 00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:34.800 have season tickets, but I don't go to the games. And you see 674 00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:38.760 so much more when you're at McHale. I mean, you you get to 675 00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:43.440 see everything. You don't get to hear it all, but you do get 676 00:45:43.480 --> 00:45:45.159 to see a lot more stuff than you get to see on the TV. 677 00:45:46.239 --> 00:45:54.960 And you know, you've you can't argue with the winning percentage and the style 678 00:45:55.000 --> 00:46:01.400 of play. It's just it's just frustrating. And we can and I've said 679 00:46:01.440 --> 00:46:07.079 it is we won't be able to tell what kind of team this was until 680 00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:12.800 after the season is over, right, you know, if if if they 681 00:46:13.360 --> 00:46:17.559 if they learn from these slow starts and things like that, and and they 682 00:46:17.599 --> 00:46:22.079 get it, they get it, they get the ship righted come tournament time, 683 00:46:22.960 --> 00:46:27.079 and we're all going to be buying you know, Final four T shirts 684 00:46:27.079 --> 00:46:35.719 and all that stuff. Well, everybody said, Steve, but but no, 685 00:46:36.119 --> 00:46:38.960 I'm I'm looking forward to watching these games this weekend and seeing how the 686 00:46:39.000 --> 00:46:44.360 guys are playing. I do like a lot of the things that a lot 687 00:46:44.400 --> 00:46:49.039 of the individuals do. Just sometimes you know, it's hard to watch. 688 00:46:49.800 --> 00:46:53.360 Yeah, well, I'm glad you can't here come to Jesus moment. Oh 689 00:46:53.440 --> 00:46:59.320 no, me too. You know it's I feel a lot better. I've 690 00:46:59.320 --> 00:47:02.280 slept better in the last couple of nights. I mean, everything, everything 691 00:47:02.280 --> 00:47:06.880 else seems to be going pretty good. God, I hope you're not losing 692 00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:14.599 of Arizona basketball. I also like, I also like reading these these uh 693 00:47:14.920 --> 00:47:21.320 draft class evaluations on Twitter that you know, Arizona's doing so bad and everything 694 00:47:21.360 --> 00:47:24.599 else, and it's like, hey, they got sixteen or seventeen starters back 695 00:47:24.639 --> 00:47:30.840 from last year. This year's draft class is not for next year, right 696 00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:35.760 right? You know, so we're getting the Juco guys, we're getting the 697 00:47:35.800 --> 00:47:40.199 transfer portal guys. To have some gaps and everything else, and you know, 698 00:47:40.880 --> 00:47:45.039 you know, if you want to judge Arizona fairly, give them a 699 00:47:45.079 --> 00:47:49.480 full cycle of recruiting and we'll see what they get in their high school class 700 00:47:49.559 --> 00:47:59.960 for No. Twenty five. But you know that's another one. I mean 701 00:48:00.679 --> 00:48:04.440 with the football thing, with everything that's happened since the Alimo Bowls, like 702 00:48:04.519 --> 00:48:08.320 you can't wait for football season to start. I'm trying to get I'm trying 703 00:48:08.360 --> 00:48:13.480 to get my crew together to see, if you know, see who wants 704 00:48:13.519 --> 00:48:16.000 to all get season tickets and try to get them together. And I hope 705 00:48:16.039 --> 00:48:21.000 that, you know, you know, I just hope that that this team 706 00:48:21.079 --> 00:48:25.280 is able to build on what they've done and get Brent Brennan started on the 707 00:48:25.360 --> 00:48:30.000 right foot. Yeah, right, I think you're going to be pleasantly surprised. 708 00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:32.400 And people who are kind of kind of poo pooing it or what you 709 00:48:32.400 --> 00:48:37.440 know, underlooking at underselling it, they'll be fine. They'll be fine. 710 00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:42.239 I don't think I'm going to be surprised. I think I think that I'm 711 00:48:42.320 --> 00:48:45.199 expecting them to be pretty good. It's just how good are they going to 712 00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:51.519 be? Right? You know? And and I've said it before, I'm 713 00:48:51.559 --> 00:48:55.519 not looking for a national championship out of Arizona football. I'm looking for an 714 00:48:55.599 --> 00:49:00.360 enjoyable season, get to go to bowl games. And win bowl games more 715 00:49:00.400 --> 00:49:06.079 often than they lose Bowl games. And I just want to see a competitive 716 00:49:07.239 --> 00:49:12.119 a competitive product on the field. There you go, there you go. 717 00:49:12.159 --> 00:49:14.280 That's really all what you want, right, I mean, that's what you 718 00:49:14.320 --> 00:49:17.760 want. I will say one of the most funnest games that I ever went 719 00:49:17.800 --> 00:49:25.639 to at McHale Center was the eighty seven tournament game against UTEF that first round 720 00:49:25.639 --> 00:49:30.280 game that I think went double overtime and yeah, and they lost. How 721 00:49:30.360 --> 00:49:34.239 was that fun? And well, it was a great game. It was 722 00:49:34.639 --> 00:49:37.440 a great game. I didn't say it was fun. Fun for most of 723 00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:42.280 it. Yeah, but that one little sliver of orange, it turned McHale 724 00:49:42.360 --> 00:49:45.559 Center into a fifty to fifty house because those folks were loud. I mean 725 00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:50.199 it was. It was loud like a rivalry high school game. Yeah, 726 00:49:50.280 --> 00:49:52.960 I remember, and that I mean, that was an exciting game. That 727 00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:55.559 was a lot of it was. It was exciting, it was and it 728 00:49:55.639 --> 00:50:00.599 was a lost and there was a lot you know, those a lot better 729 00:50:00.679 --> 00:50:05.599 games when we beat UCLA at home and got to see those. Yeah, 730 00:50:05.599 --> 00:50:08.880 but you know, it's that's what I want to see out of Arizona football, 731 00:50:08.920 --> 00:50:13.280 all right, Man. Make it exciting. Win some games that you're 732 00:50:13.280 --> 00:50:16.599 not supposed to win, you know. That's that's and win more games than 733 00:50:16.639 --> 00:50:20.360 you lose exactly. All right, Ton, we appreciate it. We've got 734 00:50:20.400 --> 00:50:22.800 a break for the top of the hour, so thanks again for the call. 735 00:50:22.840 --> 00:50:27.679 Appreciate it. Thanks guys. Cool. Yeah, good to see my 736 00:50:27.800 --> 00:50:31.239 guy finding Jesus exactly, you know, being really the bush was burning and 737 00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:37.840 he realized what he had said. Okay, all right, we're coming up 738 00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:42.119 to the top of the hour, SIDS here with breaking news for for a 739 00:50:42.199 --> 00:50:45.440 Thursday and then again, Doctor Kevin Lehman will be joining us in studio UH 740 00:50:45.480 --> 00:50:50.119 to just talk about some of the psychology of athletics and you know, some 741 00:50:50.519 --> 00:50:52.239 of the things that some of these young athletes are going through. So be 742 00:50:52.280 --> 00:50:58.440 sure to stick around. It'll be breaking news here in about fifteen four minutes, 743 00:50:58.480 --> 00:50:59.360 so stick around.