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Well, hopefully we got it there. My headphones started tweaking out there I

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was here and echoing on everything.
So there we go. Hopefully this is

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going happy Marcust Monday. Here a
disappointing times here, disappointing times across the

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NFL, here, across the CFL, across the NHL, just really horrible.

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No good guys. How are we
doing today? Jason Emon? I'm

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doing good read you know, besides
these guys right behind me, I mean,

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don't ask me about them, but
my Red Wings are doing good in

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the NHL, and I think they're
playing your crack in tomorrow night. They

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are. And you have a Ding
Dong Daniel Sprung very sad. Yeah,

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we have Burgkowski's injured, we have
Tannas like this is really a crack and

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they're off to kind of the worst
drive you can imagine. Evan, how

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are you doing today? Yeah?
Not too bad? You know, said

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like, can't partake in any of
your you know, hockey stuff is I

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don't really follow the NHL. But
other than that, no, I'm doing

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well. Yeah. I mean,
only three games to talk about this week

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on the CFL slate, so we
might have to expand our knowledge on each

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game a bit to try and get
to an hour, but I'm sure we'll

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figure it out. Yeah, we'll
go. Thanks for early today, I

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appreciate it. I gotta go work, yeah, but we mind it hit

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the whole hour. I gotta go
be a tan at the Arbory, then

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filming some interviews. I will say, though, guys, the important thing,

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unlike our BC allions here over the
weekend is is we're showing up today.

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We showed up here week twenty in
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can say about the lions singing on
the stamps over the weekend, we'll get

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to that interesting slay the games here, playoff things, finalized everything, Jason,

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I guess the first talking point here
Hodge put out the tweet playoff standings

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the exact same is last year.
Did we do we waste the last twenty

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weeks in our lives? What are
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mean yes, it ended up being
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But I did feel like this year
has been more exciting. I feel like

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we've had, you know, a
lot more surprising results. And I think

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the biggest thing and I think this
is what Farhan was saying weeks ago when

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we had him on the show,
that Winnipeg got closer to the rest of

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the league and it feels like they're
not this insurmountable team that they wore the

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last couple of years. So I
mean, I think that's what's different this

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year. But at the end of
the day, the standings did not change,

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you know, because that's the thing. You know, we started out

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the season and we're really excited and
even get the standings up here so I

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can look at it. But you
know, we kind of get excited and

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we romanticize about all these different things
happening, and then to have it,

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you know, it's disappointing. Like
I said, I think, especially like

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with the Lions and things, it
felt like there was a little bit of

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complacency. On Friday night, they're
like, well, you know, I

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mean, like Winnipeg's not gonna win
or they're not going to lose, and

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we did Like to me, I
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we're accepting our lot in life.
Here is a little bit less of hey,

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maybe we could actually make a run
of this. Evan, what did

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you make here? Back to back
year, same standings here coming into the

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playoffs. I mean, to be
honest, it doesn't surprise me. Just

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with the way the CFL is structured. I feel like, you know,

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the teams that are at the top
state at the top for a while and

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kind of dominate, and then the
teams who you know, are towards the

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bottom, maybe they have more losses. Those teams tend to struggle for longer,

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which is very interesting. I think
I said something yesterday. You know,

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given that there's only nine teams in
this league, it's fascinating that,

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you know, teams seem to repeat
some of the same mistakes again. And

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I'm not calling anybody out, but
like it. You know, sometimes I'm

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like, well, if you're playing
a team, you know, three times

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in a season, you'd think that, you know, you'd be able to

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make adjustments and you know, get
a win. But again, some of

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these teams just end up with these, you know, quite frankly horrendous streaks.

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And again, you think in a
nine team league that wouldn't really be

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a problem because you have so many
chances to redeem yourself. But you know,

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you could argue that maybe because there
is only nine teams and there's not

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you know, the same variety I
guess that you get in the league like

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the NFL, you know that that's
that would explain, you know why some

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of these teams, you know,
go on such long losing streaks and can

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never seem to, you know,
turn the ship around even when everything looks

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to be pointing in the right direction. I we intended to think, Yeah,

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the fact that the CFL that you
had three teams with I think it

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was six plus game home losing streaks
going into the season with the Riders and

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the Red Blacks and then obviously the
Elks really remarkable kind of all this.

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But I don't know, Like I
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stretch here, I don't know,
and we'll get into the BC Lions game,

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and it felt a little bit more
like, well, we're just happy

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with second place. We'll get to
the playoffs and I don't I'll talk more

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about it, but I don't think
that's a great way to build a fan

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base and have like a big blackout
night and let's get everyone to the stadium

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and it let's completely delay and egg
after we just you know, we didn't

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lay an egg against Winnipeg, you
know, heartbreaking loss here, it's the

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last home game of the season save
for the playoffs, and kind of kind

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of said that with Jason and the
general thoughts before we get into this.

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Yeah, like next I don't know, we might need to get a guess

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or something next week because like we're
get ahead here and none of these games

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oither next week now like this week
twenty one. Here, Jason, we'll

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talk offline, but that could be
a little bit scary of recap next week.

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Yeah, for sure. I mean, I guess the only thing that

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it's really notable about next week's games
is that Toronto could be tying the CFL

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record for best record in a regular
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mean, it's just a wasteland of
games next week. So yeah, like

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you said, we might have to
have someone on for that. Yeah.

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I have a lot to say about
that argus too. It's like we only

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care about one and oh, but
then we definitely want to hit every single

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record we can and every single like
legacy, like, but we're still we

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only want to go one and oh. But it seemed like there was a

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lot of Okay, let's get make
sure this guy gets a thousand rushing yards.

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Again, Let's make sure this person
gets reception, So we'll get into

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all that. I have less thoughts
about this Winnipeg Edmonton game. I'll atassa

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Jason first on this Winnipeg forty burger. Here I hear notes being pulled out

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here. That's good winnifeg here the
Edmonton what do we make of this?

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You know, hoping that Edmonton can
make a game and kind of really really

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fall off the clipper at the end. Yeah, not too many positives from

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this game for Edmonton, but I
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they had their first return touchdown since
twenty fifteen in this game, which is

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just, you know, an unbelievable
stat But congratulations to Deontes Alexander for bringing

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one back for Edmonton finally. But
other than that, I mean Winnipeg jumped

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on them right at the beginning of
the game. Winnipeg went right down and

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scored the first touchdown of the game, make it seven to nothing. Then

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Jackson je cooed had a strip sack
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by Adam big Hill was fourteen to
nothing. Edmonton made it fourteen to ten,

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but that's as close as it got. And ultimately, you know,

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Winnipeg was the better team and they
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for with BC's loss on Friday night. Yeah, imagine that. Like,

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you know, that's the thing like
with some of these teams, Like it's

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just automatic in here like BC,
Like, well, no, like we

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don't really have a lot to play
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whinn the Peg, don't care whenni
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before you burg around you did you
Brown get some playing time as well here?

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Like to me, that's kind of
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Hey, you know what, right, last home game except for the playoffs

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here right, because they're on the
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the last schedule is Evan, what
did you make of this ELX you're coming

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in? Yeah, So a couple
of things. First of all, yeah,

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Deontes Alexander wanted to talk about him
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on the Elks, but previously in
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believe, a very interesting prospect.
Came from Division three Franklin College and was

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with the Seahawks and Lions at one
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you know. When I heard Deontes
Alexander. I said, oh, you

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know, that sounds awfully familiar.
So did my Google search and then yep,

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sure enough it was the guy that
I was thinking about. So yeah,

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good for him. The fact that
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since twenty fifteen. Again, you'd
think with all these eighteen game seasons and

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you know, years of you know, building and whatever like, you'd think

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that there maybe would have happened sooner. But anyway, another one that I

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wanted to point out Manny Arsono with
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run I think last week it was
he set He's now fourth all time in

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terms of like streaks with a game
like a catch in each game. So

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again, congratulations to him for that. Really one of the all time greats,

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you know, great to see,
you know, his career still going.

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And then yeah, on the Winnipeg
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I had to point out here was
Drew Brown. We had talked about Drew

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Brown briefly. I think he played
briefly. Maybe it's been a couple of

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months now, I think, but
he came in Zach went down, right.

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Wasn't that the game when Zach went
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so I think that was you know, a little less than two months ago

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something like that. Yeah, anyways, Drew Brown. You know, so

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there's a couple guys that I'm looking
at. And I bring this up because

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now we're pretty much at the end
of you know, well, some teams

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like Edmonton, you know, their
season's done, so skatcho and their seasons

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done. We'll get into that.
But you know, I bring that up

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because there's some guys in this league, you know, some quarterbacks that are

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only backups that I feel like could
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you know that's been floated around.
I was talking to Derek Dennis this weekend

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and you know, we had a
nice chat about Dane Evans and you know,

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he came off the bench you know, in BC, and we can

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get to that too. But Drew
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guy where he's not brought up enough
in those discussions in terms of you know,

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possible starting caliber quarterbacks. Because in
this game, I mean completed every

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pass ninety four yards, two touchdowns. I mean to be honest, if

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you weren't paying attention to that game
closely, you might have not known that

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Drew Brown was even in, you
would have just thought it was Kolaro's and

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wouldn't have batter an. I.
So Drew Brown, I definitely feel like,

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you know, deserves this credit,
deserves some recognition, has definitely developed

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in this league, I think,
and excited to see where he can go

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from this point forward. Hey,
Jason, I mean we talked about this

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a lot, with the argus like, would you not have just given Drew

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Brown the game here? I mean, I know exactly, I mean they

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kind of split more or less,
But would you have I mean, what's

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a harm here? What do you
whatre you risking with Klara's Yeah exactly,

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I mean, yeah, I would
have done them done that. I would

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have just gave Drew Brown the entire
game to play, because, like you

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said, they have nothing to play
for standings wise. And Klari's is a

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guy that the last couple of years
he's been able to stay relatively healthy,

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but throughout the course of his career
he's had a lot of injury issues.

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So why, you know, leave
him vulnerable to that? You know,

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I think it was pretty questionable in
hindsight for Winnipeg, but he got out

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of this game unscathed, and I
doubt we'll see him next week. I

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thought tweet come out talking and Kolaros
and during the game, and how basically

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like Winnipeg. It's kind of like
the Brock pretty argument in the NFL right

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now, like how good this Brock
and you got all the debo and Christian

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Like if you put like Cody Ferjardo
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he like is Zach? Basically the
argument was like, he's an above average

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quarterback that's just surrounded by a lot
of good talent in the league defense,

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And it's basically like the Cody Fijardo
because you can swap out Jason. What

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do you make of that? Then
we'll get Evans thoughts, I don't agree

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with that. I think that Claris
is a special quarterback in this league and

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he was just waiting for this right
opportunity for everything to click. I mean,

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we saw years ago in Hamilton.
There was one year that I believe

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it was twenty fifteen that they started
nine and one and he was the runaway

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MVP, twenty five touchdowns, ten
picks, like best player in the league

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by far, and then he tore
his ACL and you know, we've seen

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him play at a high level in
other places in the CFL, So I

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mean, I don't agree with that. I think that not every quarterback could

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have done what Zach's done in Winnipeg. And I mean, at the end

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of the day, I think think
one thing that separates Zach Claris is his

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football intelligence and just the general feel
he has for the game. I don't

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think you can replicate that with a
guy like Cody Fajardo for example. Yeah,

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I really don't like that argument.
I've been this whole rock pretty thing

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and we get a lot of it
just with Seattle and like Sanford. You

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know, we just it ends up
being in the news cycle here at least

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a lot. And you know,
I, if anything, I think it's

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it's interesting that, you know,
with with Drew Brees and Sean Payton here

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and obviously with Brady and militant,
like some of these coaches are almost getting

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this was kind of in the lead
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no, I mean I think Kolaro's
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a really good fit there as well, but you need to have some I

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mean, he's had how many years
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Evan, what do you make of
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look, I feel like if you
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it's not going to have the same
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outside of Cody Fajardo, there's a
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it's the same. I think that
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is good at building quarterbacks in house
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some people might say that's also misleading
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team and not perform well. But
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know, I look at Zach Kolearos
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he could start a couple of games
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fine. Dakota preu Cop is another
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Canada after he tried, you know, coming down to the US and playing

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in the USFL with the New Jersey
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given some guys some opportunities, you
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you know, it's one of those
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it a lot. Yeah, I
read you brought up a good example,

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like if you want to compare it
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people are saying, well, you
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of San Francisco, you know,
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put them on another team or you
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another quarterback to San Francisco, they
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sure about that, you know.
I think people just you know, they

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want to say that to you know, just feel more comfortable to try and

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you know, even the talent plane
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Brock Purdy he might not be completely
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go to a multitude of teams I
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like it's not a fluke. And
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here in the CFL. Yeah,
I mean, scouts the whiff all the

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time. I mean, even look
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the Bears over the weekend, right, and here's someone undrafted and he's coming

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up there and playing. And not
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now, but any other thoughts on
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Elks? Right? They they have
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Winnipeg's going into Calgary, Hamilton in
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else kind of bow tie and will
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whatever and recap and all that.
But any other thoughts kind of bow tie

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the Elk season will go? Jason
First, Yeah, I mean for the

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Elks, I mean, ultimately,
they finished with the exact same record as

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they did last season, four and
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that. And for Winnipeg, Nick
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the first time in his career,
so congratulations to him. Yeah, for

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whatever reason, four and fourteen for
the Ox this year feels tremendously better than

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four and fourteen for the Ox last
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thoughts on the Elk season. I
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I don't think so. I just
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things, you know, in the
off season. We have to wait for

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a lot of these situations to pan
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the same, like same about Saskatchewan, right, Like I'm not you know,

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that's I guess the next game we
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to really you know, tear that
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start happening. But yeah, you
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in the corner. I think that's
just a nice like considering they started,

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you know, oh to nine or
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of finish, you know, with
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that be if I can do math
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they were able to at least turn
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I like that a lot. So
yeah, yeah, Tim, Tim chiming

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in and yeah we tied him in
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which, like I said, for
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grocery points and all those other things, and especially like you know, it's

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always I always got to laugh at
all that stuff. Yeah, Tim,

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But maybe we'll get Tim on next
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of this Ara here. We got
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one. All right, this is
interesting and so normally my saturdays are occupied

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by the wife, but she decided
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nine thirty in the morning, and
so I ended up sitting around and was

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watching Moneyball for a while, and
then I said, oh, this game

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started, I'm gonna sit on my
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a fascinating game. I have lots
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Saskatchewan completely the following apart in Toronto, and kind of everything else. Jason,

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first off, for you, like
what what was this game? Like,

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we'll get the Calgary of like Saskatchewan
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showed up, really showed up on
fire at the beginning. What did

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you make? Yeah, that's that's
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So Skatchwan came out of the gates
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to win. It looked like their
best effort in weeks. But ultimately,

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you know, they just fell apart
right at the end. And like I

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was about to say, like Calgary
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That was the best possible outcome for
the CFL, and then you still

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had a meaningful game next week with
Calgary. But Saskatchwan blows it at the

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end to Cameron Dukes and at the
end of the day they have nobody to

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blame but themselves for the last seven
games of their season. Yeah, I

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hate sweet this out. I said
that Saskatchwan's early pointing out of their minds

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dominated the must Wing game against Toronto. Sam Peters pants the BC lines in

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the must Wing game. Imagine if
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where we're and there's the same thing
with Calgary and fan like where you can

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play must win games before they're actually
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here and like you said, still
wasn't enough to kind of get get the

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job done. But Evan, I
remember, because I think you must have

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been going to one of the games, like you know, you were watching,

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and I know you said, like, hey, I didn't have service,

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Like how the hell did the Riders
lose this game? Yeah, I

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mean you know I watched. I
watched most of this game, you know,

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up until the middle of the third
quarter, So I kind of I

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think I stopped watching right when cameraon
Dukes came in, but you know,

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obviously good to see him get some
work in. Got to point that out,

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of course. But besides that,
yeah, this, I mean,

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that's heartbreaking, you know, to
lose a game like that at home,

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you know, in front of your
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really what really makes this significantly worse
is the fact that Saskatchewan had this same

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scenario happened to him last season,
where the season ends at the beginning of

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September and they just don't win after
that when you need to again, when

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you need to win, like I
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back in you know, like August
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still building momentum, that this team
had a lot of talent, and I

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believed in that playoff race because I
figured those last two spots it looked like

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it was gonna be between Saskatchewan and
Calgary. You know, of course it

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was. I thought Saskatchewan you know, had the advantage. I thought that

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they would be able to overcome you
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But unfortunately, they were unable to
do that. And I'm sitting here,

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I'm very surprised. I think more
than anything that that team, you know,

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with all the stuff that they had
going on, and like it just

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felt like they had they had enough
talent to get it done. I don't

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know. Look, I'm not going
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I don't know if they have I
don't know if they have more talent than

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Calgary maybe in certain areas whatever.
I'm not breaking all that down right now.

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That would be something Jason could do
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I just I don't know, Like
I've watched this game, and you

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know that's sadly, you know,
that's a game where uh, you know,

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I don't know, like that really
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future of maybe the franchise looks like
in Saskatchewan. You know, you have

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to start asking about, you know, possible changes and things like that.

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I mean, being you know,
a combined I think it was oh to

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thirteen and back to back seasons after
September fourth or something like that. Again,

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just another one of those stats where
you just kind of, you know,

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you you want to look away,
like that doesn't it just doesn't seem

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right, and I feel really bad, you know, for all the Rider

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fans. I know, that's one
of the you know, better fan bases

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in the league out there in Regina, you know, definitely a very unique

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spot. I would say, doesn't
get talked about enough. So you know,

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hats off to everybody there. But
yeah, you know, I wasn't

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even I'm not really a fan of
his team, but even I was disappointed

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because I know, you know,
when you lose a game like that,

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you know that that's the one that
you think about, you know, because

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you had I mean, obviously they've
been on a bit of a slide now,

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but that's not something that you come
back from so easily. And I

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think it's more than anything, I
think it's fascinating how Calgary, despite everything

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being against them, everything working against
them, everything looking like you know,

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this was the end, they're still
in it. And I think all the

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players, you know, all the
players were kind of saying and thinking the

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same thing, like, well,
we're still here, you know, we

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still had a chance, give us
a chance. And they you know,

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they've somehow once again made the playoffs. And again that's the other thing about

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having a nine team league, right, Like, it's a bit easier to

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kind of keep those streaks live even
in a year where again like this year,

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I thought there was no chance.
I thought Saskatchewan could lose again.

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I thought they were gonna they could
lose, you know, six of the

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last seven games and still you know, find a way. But now they

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didn't. And that's that's something again
that's gonna sting for a long time.

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Yeah. Eighteen eighteen Conteger the postseason
appearances, congratulations friend of the show,

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Ryan Valentine that he tweeted out,
yet they're old enough to vote now cl

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congression because this was just remarkable.
And we had on Jamie and I right

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last week because I said I got
it, you know with the green zone

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up there, and I love higiment. I mean the other thing, I

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really did have the best time up
there for the Great Cup, like really

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delightful, beautiful, beautiful. We
walked in the park with Rob Vanstone around

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the lake, I mean, really
tremendous up there. Fan base before the

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Riders. But he said, like
if they lose, you know, people

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don't even want them to even have
the opportunity to be in the playoffs.

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The fan base wants them to lose. And I keep checking my twitter,

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he says, you know, come
Monday morning, like when it's official that

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they're not in, Like heads are
gonna roll there, and I imagine,

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like I just I don't know how
you can go oh of seven the last

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two years, like Evan said here
following September and like that whole regime is

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gone. I mean, this is
this is crazy, and I think wholesale

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changes are coming there Jason, like
Rod Peterson had tweeted that over the weekend

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as well, like obviously heat long
history with the Riders, you know this

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great franchise and where it's at right
now, what do you make of just

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kind of they downfall the Riders.
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is the attendance. I mean this
was the worst attendant game in Regina,

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I believe they said, since two
thousand and six. So that is very

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alarming, and it shows you that
a lot of these fans have tuned out

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from this team with what they've gone
through the last couple of years. So

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I think that is very concerning.
I think we're bound to see, you

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know, a big house cleaning like
we saw in Edmonton a few years ago

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when they got rid of the president, the GM and the head coach.

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So I mean I expect that to
happen in Regina. I don't think that

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any of those guys survive, maybe
the president of anything, but I think

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O Day and Craig Dickinson are out
as the GM and the head coach in

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Regina, and I think at the
end of the day, yeah, I

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don't think that you can go forward
with those guys in that leadership group there

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in Regina. I did like how
it came out afterwards because they were doing

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the clean out the Locker day and
it was Brittain Gray that does the show

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with Jamie and they're like, but
Trevor harrisond like, well, I was

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going to be ready to go in
the playoffs, Like I was going to

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be ready like for what, Like, I mean, it's great, Like

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I don't think that Trevor Harris comes
in there and lights the world up fire

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either. I mean, to me, there was kind of a fundamental just

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something wrong with this team here and
I mean Doll Gallas doing find him.

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Mean, he's throwing you know,
he had the two picks, you know,

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four twenty nine here and me he's
throwing the ball over the field.

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Like, I don't know if you
bring in Trevor Harris like Evan if you

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know, let's say they eke in
here and Trevor Harris comes in, Like,

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does that make any difference at all? Yeah, I don't know.

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It's an interesting question. I feel
like you almost can't answer it because Trevor

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Harris didn't play for long enough this
season with the Riders. Like, to

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be honest, look, if you
want to take away some pausitives from this

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game, if you're a Rider's fin
dog, gall looked pretty good. I

409
00:25:48.640 --> 00:25:52.480
understand that. You know, he
kind of he had the interception at the

410
00:25:52.559 --> 00:25:55.000
end of the game that kind of, you know, really put things away,

411
00:25:55.079 --> 00:25:57.519
and I wouldn't count that as good. But you know, other than

412
00:25:57.559 --> 00:26:00.119
that, I mean, look,
he you know, spread the ball around.

413
00:26:00.200 --> 00:26:04.720
He got Samuel Almoss over a thousand
yards on the season, I believe,

414
00:26:04.759 --> 00:26:08.480
who had a great game. Also
shout out to sam Sean Bayin had

415
00:26:08.519 --> 00:26:12.519
another nice game too. He was
on like a practice roster last year,

416
00:26:12.559 --> 00:26:15.920
so that was actually a pretty good
I guess, Jim, you could say

417
00:26:17.200 --> 00:26:21.240
that Saskatchewan was able to capitalize on
anyway. Uh. Yeah, Jake Dolegala,

418
00:26:21.359 --> 00:26:23.759
I feel like, you know,
there is promise with him moving forward

419
00:26:23.799 --> 00:26:29.279
and regardless of you know who's there
next year, you know, if he

420
00:26:29.400 --> 00:26:32.279
stays around or whatever. I feel
like, you know, he had an

421
00:26:32.279 --> 00:26:36.359
opportunity this season to prove himself.
And you know, while he did not

422
00:26:36.480 --> 00:26:38.279
win this game, which would have
been you know, a significant moment,

423
00:26:38.359 --> 00:26:42.480
and we always use the term quote
unquote legacy game, which you know,

424
00:26:42.559 --> 00:26:45.759
this could have been one form.
I mean, four hundred and twenty nine

425
00:26:45.799 --> 00:26:51.519
passing yards was pretty impressive. But
yeah, I mean, you know,

426
00:26:51.599 --> 00:26:55.720
Jake Dolegala, you have something there, you know, I don't know,

427
00:26:55.799 --> 00:26:59.359
again, there's so many questions about
the future here. I feel like there's

428
00:26:59.359 --> 00:27:03.519
almost more qui questions now in Saskatchewan
then maybe there is an Edmonton just because

429
00:27:03.559 --> 00:27:08.440
you know, they again they've produced
the same result in back to back seasons

430
00:27:08.480 --> 00:27:12.279
and they had so much like it
felt like they changed a lot of things

431
00:27:12.559 --> 00:27:18.000
significantly this offseason to make sure that
that wouldn't happen again. But they're just

432
00:27:18.079 --> 00:27:18.720
kind of, you know, right
back where they were, and again,

433
00:27:18.720 --> 00:27:22.640
that's extremely unfortunate. I you know, it's a tough business. You know,

434
00:27:23.119 --> 00:27:26.440
it's a winning business. It's really
what it is. There's no denying

435
00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:30.319
that. So yeah, you know, it's just it's it's one of those

436
00:27:30.319 --> 00:27:33.720
things. But there are like there
are pause, there's again for Saskatchewan.

437
00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:37.200
I mean again, from the player's
standpoint, I thought Jareed Stearns was a

438
00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:41.319
really good pick up mid season.
You know, I've sung his praises.

439
00:27:41.839 --> 00:27:45.359
Definitely somebody that I think should have
been playing pro football sooner, you know,

440
00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:49.240
possibly in the XFL. And then
you know, on the Toronto side

441
00:27:49.240 --> 00:27:52.440
of things, cause I mean we've
been talking about Saskatchewan for so long and

442
00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:56.079
just kind of how this was a
fallout for them. I got to give

443
00:27:56.119 --> 00:28:00.240
some credit to Toronto here. I
mean again, this team is so deep,

444
00:28:00.519 --> 00:28:03.200
you know, like they can pull
anybody and still you know, have

445
00:28:03.279 --> 00:28:07.759
a chance. And that's why,
that's why I'm very confused why Chad Kelly

446
00:28:07.799 --> 00:28:10.680
was in the game for as long
as he was. I got to talk

447
00:28:10.680 --> 00:28:12.079
about that first, and I know, I know you feel a certain way

448
00:28:12.119 --> 00:28:15.880
about that read, but man like, and I know, look, we

449
00:28:17.880 --> 00:28:19.400
brought it up a bit with Kolaros
too, like he you know, maybe

450
00:28:19.400 --> 00:28:23.160
could have rowed that one out,
and Drew Brown was obviously fine to just

451
00:28:23.240 --> 00:28:26.920
you know, have his uh,
have his moment, But man like,

452
00:28:26.200 --> 00:28:30.160
I think with Chad Kelly, it
just felt so much worse because you know,

453
00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:33.039
you saw him getting hit, like
they you know, benched RT well

454
00:28:33.160 --> 00:28:37.319
I shouldn't say bench, but they
rested a couple I think of their starting

455
00:28:37.359 --> 00:28:41.640
lineman. And you know, you
saw Kelly start taking some hits out there,

456
00:28:41.640 --> 00:28:44.920
and there was one where, you
know, in that third quarter where

457
00:28:44.920 --> 00:28:48.200
like they literally had to bring Dukes
in at that point just because you know,

458
00:28:48.240 --> 00:28:51.079
he was kind of hobbling off the
field. And I'm sitting there like,

459
00:28:51.160 --> 00:28:53.279
geez, I mean, this is
just so like it makes me angry

460
00:28:53.400 --> 00:28:56.720
when I'm sitting there watching that because
it just feels so preventable. And look,

461
00:28:56.759 --> 00:29:00.519
I understand, Look Ryan did what. He's a great coach. I'm

462
00:29:00.559 --> 00:29:03.400
sure he has his reasons for it. Maybe I don't agree with it,

463
00:29:03.480 --> 00:29:07.880
but you know I that's again,
that's above me, above my pay grades.

464
00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:11.039
So yeah, look, I don't
know why Chad Kelly was in the

465
00:29:11.079 --> 00:29:15.599
game as long as he was.
I thought he had a respectable performance regardless,

466
00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:18.480
and then Cam Duke's came in and
finished everything out. But like with

467
00:29:18.519 --> 00:29:22.079
the r goes Man, it just
it just feels like every name you know,

468
00:29:22.319 --> 00:29:26.440
at least every time that they bench
again not bench rest some of their

469
00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:30.880
starters, it just feels like there's
another name to talk about because they're so

470
00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:33.480
deep. Like this week, i'd
say, you know, give credit to

471
00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:38.960
uh, hopefully I'll butcher this name. But Daniel Adebaboye, man like I

472
00:29:40.079 --> 00:29:42.480
just you know, just comes out
there and one hundred and nine carries on

473
00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:47.599
nine yards, ripped off that really
big. I believe it was sixty yard

474
00:29:47.680 --> 00:29:49.960
run. It looks like it was
fifty nine there based on a long but

475
00:29:51.480 --> 00:29:55.359
yeah, I mean guys like that
again, someone that you just don't discuss

476
00:29:55.400 --> 00:29:59.200
all season, and then he comes
into an elimination game for one of the

477
00:29:59.240 --> 00:30:00.920
teams and you know, almost puts
them to bed. And then I think

478
00:30:02.599 --> 00:30:07.160
another player that they had that was
was helpful in this game. If I

479
00:30:07.160 --> 00:30:11.119
can find the name Mason Pierce from
the Colorado School of Mines Division two,

480
00:30:11.160 --> 00:30:15.160
who had the game sealing interception on
Jake Dolagala. He was somebody that I

481
00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:18.079
think is I think he's a rookie. I could be wrong, but you

482
00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:22.359
know, he came in the season
again, somebody that they wanted to develop.

483
00:30:22.519 --> 00:30:25.079
I don't know how many reps he's
had, but it seemed like he

484
00:30:25.160 --> 00:30:29.000
was relatively new came in there and
yeah, you know, won the game

485
00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:33.000
for Toronto and sent you know,
sent in Saskatchewan home, well even though

486
00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:36.720
they were at home. But you
know what I mean. So yeah,

487
00:30:36.759 --> 00:30:38.920
I mean again Toronto, just incredible
depth. I mean, you know,

488
00:30:40.200 --> 00:30:42.440
when it comes to someone like me
who you know does a lot of scouting

489
00:30:42.440 --> 00:30:49.039
and personnel work, it really really
speaks volumes when your entire second team unit

490
00:30:49.119 --> 00:30:52.960
or whatever you want to call it
can come into a game and pretty much

491
00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:56.519
replace all the starters no problem.
Like again, you could barely tell the

492
00:30:56.160 --> 00:31:00.400
difference in production between again like Duke's
and Kelly. You know some of the

493
00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:03.359
running backs, even some of the
receivers who maybe we don't talk about enough

494
00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:07.039
who I think some of them,
I know Alet in terms again like the

495
00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:10.960
thousand yard milestones, I don't really
track those. I think Alete went over

496
00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:15.880
a thousand and then they pulled Yeah
they pulled them right after that. Yeah,

497
00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:18.920
and then I think one of the
receivers maybe went over one thousand too.

498
00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:22.440
But yeah, anyway, again,
just great depth by Toronto. Demonstrated

499
00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:26.839
again, if you're Toronto, I
think you feel confident, like even if

500
00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:30.640
you were to suffer a significant injury. You know, at some point in

501
00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:33.839
the playoffs, you know, you
would at least be able to replicate something,

502
00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:36.960
you know in a game. I
feel good about that. Again,

503
00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:40.680
we'll in terms of I don't want
to get into you know, Great Cup

504
00:31:40.759 --> 00:31:45.319
matchups quite yet, you know,
in my opinions exactly, I you know,

505
00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:48.279
look, I've been talking to some
people, including yourself, read about

506
00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:49.839
that and how I feel, but
I won't get into that quite yet,

507
00:31:49.880 --> 00:31:53.559
although I will say that that might
play a role if you want to,

508
00:31:53.599 --> 00:31:56.200
you know, pick Toronto and you
feel good about that having that depth.

509
00:31:56.319 --> 00:32:00.119
So yeah, that's that's where I'm
out on that game. I think I

510
00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:05.160
will say just and I'll get to
the game. I'm hearing like big news

511
00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:07.880
coming out Great Cup week. I
don't have anyone else's hearing that. I

512
00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:10.839
saw a couple of people talking about
that, and they got Randy's press conference

513
00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:15.000
moved up to Tuesday, and they're
trying to separate that from the actual game

514
00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:17.400
of Great Cup. So I don't
know if like Brandy's going to come out

515
00:32:17.400 --> 00:32:22.359
and drop some bombshells on on that
week of the Great Cup. I will

516
00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:25.839
say, we were talking we have
our well, we have a venue secured

517
00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:29.759
for our great Cup show. That
should be excited. But I'm working.

518
00:32:30.079 --> 00:32:34.319
I'm working with one of the teams
to see if we can situate it more

519
00:32:34.440 --> 00:32:37.119
in kind of the fans section.
They're the Great Cup activities. But otherwise

520
00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:39.920
we have a great backup plan and
we'll announce all that because I'm excited for

521
00:32:39.920 --> 00:32:43.480
that, and we'll certainly have a
lot of that kind of stuff. And

522
00:32:43.519 --> 00:32:46.200
I appreciate Jason as well putting together
and give me advice about, Okay,

523
00:32:46.200 --> 00:32:50.559
which ones work or which one's done, like calling these places like hey,

524
00:32:50.680 --> 00:32:53.000
you know, who are you?
Like, Okay, we're from Seattle.

525
00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:57.440
Like we talked about the CFL,
Like no, we don't really can't really

526
00:32:57.480 --> 00:33:00.759
pay to use anything like more just
kind of can we be whatever anyway,

527
00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:04.000
So that should be good. So
yeah, so I can subscribe. Should

528
00:33:04.039 --> 00:33:06.720
be a big show there. We
had like fifteen thousand views last year for

529
00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:10.079
Beat the Beat the CFL stream last
year for the for the pre show,

530
00:33:10.119 --> 00:33:15.720
so hopefully we'll do that. But
talking the game, I just yeah,

531
00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:20.240
Saskatchewan totally checked out last home game
Saturday afternoon. You know, there was

532
00:33:20.319 --> 00:33:22.920
all this made about, Okay,
the Sunday night games and we hate that

533
00:33:23.079 --> 00:33:27.759
and people traveling like no excuses here. Last home game of the season,

534
00:33:27.799 --> 00:33:30.319
no one showed up. We talked
about that in terms of the Chack Kelly

535
00:33:30.359 --> 00:33:35.400
thing, and I hit tweeted that
because I'm watching the game and Glenn and

536
00:33:35.559 --> 00:33:37.839
Rod friend of the show, Rod
Smith, they're talking like going in to

537
00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:42.119
break and they're like, well,
just there's no way Chack Kelly plays the

538
00:33:42.200 --> 00:33:44.880
second half, and I say,
is coaching mount practice if this guy comes

539
00:33:44.920 --> 00:33:47.200
out of place. They tried chack
Kelly out again of the third quarter,

540
00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:51.119
and like Evan said, it was
only until he got that you know,

541
00:33:51.160 --> 00:33:52.960
he's like limping off the field and
it's like, okay, let's pull Chatick.

542
00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:57.480
I don't. And they were incredulous
about that, and I think Rod,

543
00:33:57.599 --> 00:34:00.839
like, to me, Rod's are
pretty like PG kind of like,

544
00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:04.920
hey, okay, you know,
I kind of total league line here,

545
00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:07.160
and like I'll talk a little bit
like when he was on the show,

546
00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:09.519
he was talking about how he thought
it was a mistake that Toronto and Winnipeg

547
00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:15.880
didn't play earlier before before Toronto had
locked everything down. But Rod normally doesn't

548
00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:17.760
say but they were just incredulous,
like you know, playing for a drive

549
00:34:17.920 --> 00:34:21.400
playing for a quarter, but the
fact he's in the third, you know,

550
00:34:21.480 --> 00:34:23.880
third quarter here. I mean,
Jason, I don't know. To

551
00:34:23.960 --> 00:34:29.119
me, you'll never be able to
argue playing any guy like that past the

552
00:34:29.159 --> 00:34:32.079
first half, if that makes sense. Yeah, I mean I was super

553
00:34:32.119 --> 00:34:36.280
surprised, like we were talking about
on the show last week, I didn't

554
00:34:36.280 --> 00:34:38.519
think he was gonna play at all
these last two weeks, but they tught

555
00:34:38.559 --> 00:34:43.360
him out for the first three quarters
and lived great a part of three quarters

556
00:34:43.400 --> 00:34:46.880
in this game. And yeah,
you just it's super unnecessary because, like

557
00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:51.440
I said, there's no reason to
do it because of their situation in the

558
00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:54.880
standings. I mean, they have
a weird situation because it's been such a

559
00:34:54.920 --> 00:35:00.199
long time since they've clinched. But
regardless, I think that with only two

560
00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:05.199
weeks left the season, I feel
like this is the time to completely sit

561
00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:09.000
him down for the last couple of
weeks and give Cameron Duke's a longer look

562
00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:15.159
and Brian Scott potentially a longer look
at the quarterback position because those guys need

563
00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:19.400
reps and they have not had many
reps in the CFL as both rookies.

564
00:35:20.480 --> 00:35:23.360
I just you know, and Mike
Mitchell has talked about the Chad and he's

565
00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:27.360
got a lot of incentives based into
his contract. And I do think,

566
00:35:27.440 --> 00:35:30.400
like we were talking with the Aj
Llett and everything, I think that as

567
00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:34.280
much as they want to talk about
playing one to zero, I think there's

568
00:35:34.519 --> 00:35:37.119
I think that is going on a
lot, or at least it felt like

569
00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:38.800
it was in this game. Okay, let's get aj his thing like and

570
00:35:39.079 --> 00:35:42.199
I get all that. I mean, what was in a couple of years

571
00:35:42.199 --> 00:35:45.920
ago where Tom Brady was throwing the
Tanntonio Brown because he needed like twenty more

572
00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:50.840
receptions or whatever to get you know
whatever it was one hundred thousand dollars or

573
00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:52.800
whatever, and he was shovel past
into him. Like I get that.

574
00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:55.360
But yeah, the Chad going into
the third and like I said, do

575
00:35:55.400 --> 00:35:59.239
you hear kind of one of the
phases of the league, like really questioning

576
00:35:59.280 --> 00:36:02.400
that obvious see loved and witty and
Mike and we have tremendous respect for that,

577
00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:06.639
but just felt, uh, you
know, Chad goes down here.

578
00:36:06.760 --> 00:36:10.199
I mean, this team is not
the same with Cameron Dukes in terms of

579
00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:16.000
kind of anything else here evan of
this game. Any other thoughts let me

580
00:36:16.039 --> 00:36:23.320
think probably not. I don't know. I just again like the amount of

581
00:36:23.599 --> 00:36:28.760
depth that Toronto team has. It's
just this league. I feel like again

582
00:36:28.960 --> 00:36:32.639
in parts of this season, you
know, they've they've struck. Certain teams

583
00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:36.519
struggle I think with depth, you
know, and you kind of see that,

584
00:36:36.599 --> 00:36:40.360
like it's some teams might not even
even with their starters, you know,

585
00:36:40.400 --> 00:36:44.000
they might want to change some things
up, whereas in Toronto you just

586
00:36:44.039 --> 00:36:46.719
have so much to work with.
It's it's really nice to see. So

587
00:36:46.840 --> 00:36:50.199
again, I don't know, I
just can't. I can't get that off

588
00:36:50.239 --> 00:36:53.719
my mind as much as we've already
talked about it. And then yeah,

589
00:36:53.800 --> 00:36:58.760
finally, like I said, just
another disappointing season for the Riders where it

590
00:36:58.760 --> 00:37:01.800
really felt like they had to me. I still remember the Labor Day game

591
00:37:01.840 --> 00:37:06.280
and sitting there and working and excuse
me, I got it whatever in my

592
00:37:06.360 --> 00:37:08.440
throat, uh, listening to the
game, and then beating you know,

593
00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:12.360
beating the right beating the Bombers at
home, and like, oh my god,

594
00:37:12.360 --> 00:37:14.679
there's all this amendum and the overtime
win and all of that, and

595
00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:16.840
then the thing that that would be
the last game they would win this season

596
00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:22.519
is incredible. I mean, Jason, like the decline of that I don't

597
00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:24.519
know. To me, as unpresidented
here to lose the last seven games back

598
00:37:24.519 --> 00:37:28.480
to back seasons, especially this year, where that to me, it was

599
00:37:28.559 --> 00:37:31.280
like all the momentum was going in
their favor. Yeah, there's some things

600
00:37:31.280 --> 00:37:35.599
in this league that simply don't make
sense. Right, You were saying with

601
00:37:35.639 --> 00:37:39.039
the three teams that had long multi
game home losing streaks at the same time

602
00:37:39.079 --> 00:37:42.920
in a nine team league. Like
I said, there's just some things in

603
00:37:42.920 --> 00:37:45.840
this league that don't make sense.
And I kind of chalk it up to

604
00:37:45.880 --> 00:37:49.199
that. Just some weird things happen
in the CFL, And I mean,

605
00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:52.119
yeah, just some strange things have
happened in Regina the last couple of years.

606
00:37:53.159 --> 00:38:00.280
Yeah, I got the tweet here
just talking about how yeah Hair with

607
00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:04.880
him and back Jason, do you
see Harris next year in Regina? Is

608
00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:07.960
that like are we really are we
doing that? Are we going to wait

609
00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:09.360
till we get new coaching staff?
I mean, Jamie and I seemed to

610
00:38:09.360 --> 00:38:13.039
think that. It was like,
Hey, if I can go in and

611
00:38:13.199 --> 00:38:15.239
take the head coaching job, they're
knowing I have someone like Trevor Harris.

612
00:38:15.280 --> 00:38:19.880
Does that do anything for you or
do you want to kind of rebuild yeah,

613
00:38:19.920 --> 00:38:22.199
absolutely. I think it all comes
down to Trevor, because Trevor was

614
00:38:22.199 --> 00:38:25.440
saying, I think I want to
come back, but I'm not one hundred

615
00:38:25.440 --> 00:38:29.480
percent certain, and I won't say
today that I'm coming back next year for

616
00:38:29.559 --> 00:38:31.199
sure, because you got to remember, this guy is thirty seven years old.

617
00:38:32.039 --> 00:38:36.679
But if he wants a job in
the in the CFLs the starting quarterback

618
00:38:36.719 --> 00:38:38.840
next year, he's going to have
one, whether or not that's in Saskatswan

619
00:38:38.920 --> 00:38:43.119
or somewhere else, because I think
I still think he was playing at it,

620
00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:46.039
you know, a top four,
top five quarterback level prior to getting

621
00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:50.519
hurt this year. Remember this team
was three and one before he got hurt,

622
00:38:50.559 --> 00:38:53.199
and during that game which he got
hurt, they believe they were leading

623
00:38:53.239 --> 00:38:55.960
Calgary, so they had a chance
to go four and one. They ultimately

624
00:38:57.039 --> 00:39:00.519
ended up losing that game. So
I mean, I think that if they

625
00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:02.519
had Trevor the rest of the season, they definitely would have made the playoffs.

626
00:39:02.519 --> 00:39:06.239
They don't see them going on,
you know, this kind of a

627
00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:09.519
slide the last six weeks of the
season, So I mean, I take

628
00:39:09.599 --> 00:39:13.199
something away from that from that perspective, but I think at the end of

629
00:39:13.239 --> 00:39:16.039
the day, the age is a
concern with him, and the fact that

630
00:39:16.119 --> 00:39:21.440
Della Gallas showed some promise I think
makes you have some thoughts about that.

631
00:39:21.559 --> 00:39:24.840
You know, anything else here,
We'll move on. We'll talk Lions here,

632
00:39:25.159 --> 00:39:29.519
Evan, you get yeah, I
think so. I mean, just

633
00:39:29.599 --> 00:39:31.519
on the you know, quickly on
on the Trevor Harris topic, I think,

634
00:39:31.599 --> 00:39:34.760
yeah, if even if you were
to bring in, you know,

635
00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:38.000
new coaches, new management, whatever, I feel like Trevor Harris is a

636
00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:40.360
guy you can build around. And
you could say the same for Jake Delgal.

637
00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:44.559
I mean, you know, a
young up and coming quarterback who's been

638
00:39:44.760 --> 00:39:47.000
you know, at the NFL level
at one point, and yeah, Trevor

639
00:39:47.039 --> 00:39:52.280
Harris being like the seasoned, veteran
guy, I'd say Trevor Harris probably has

640
00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:54.119
the best chance because like, look, you know, we've talked about some

641
00:39:54.159 --> 00:39:59.800
of the older quarterbacks, like Jeremiah
was solely being another one. I was

642
00:39:59.840 --> 00:40:01.840
here hearing like, you know,
Jeremiah Masoli. You know, even if

643
00:40:01.840 --> 00:40:07.159
you were to come back next season, you know, him starting wouldn't be

644
00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:09.440
a lock like it would be for
a guy like Trevor. You know,

645
00:40:09.480 --> 00:40:12.639
if you were to just hang around
and who knows, maybe it won't be

646
00:40:12.679 --> 00:40:15.440
for Trevor either, depending on,
you know, what the new coaching staff

647
00:40:15.440 --> 00:40:19.559
thinks. But I could see him
staying, you know, in Saskatchewan.

648
00:40:19.599 --> 00:40:22.880
I think that's a very plausible option, and it feels like there's unfinished business

649
00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:24.920
there. I feel like he was
brought in to be the guy to kind

650
00:40:24.920 --> 00:40:30.039
of turn the franchise around, and
as much as they've seen promise from Jake

651
00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:32.440
Dolegala, that was more of an
unexpected route. So a couple of different

652
00:40:32.440 --> 00:40:35.440
ways you could go with that.
But yeah, I mean I'd love to

653
00:40:35.440 --> 00:40:37.760
see Trevor play again. Yeah,
I mean the time with Mizzoli. I

654
00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:40.599
mean, Mizzoli has really football in
two years here. I mean you want

655
00:40:40.639 --> 00:40:44.880
to talking, you know, we've
we attracted the Shaun Watson of it all.

656
00:40:44.960 --> 00:40:46.199
And even if you get rid of
everything off the field, like,

657
00:40:46.639 --> 00:40:51.199
it's really hard to take two and
a half years off her play, especially

658
00:40:51.239 --> 00:40:54.599
like I think in the NFL you
have a lot more like resources around you

659
00:40:54.800 --> 00:40:57.920
kind of like, okay, let's
get you back up to speed here.

660
00:40:58.000 --> 00:41:01.800
I don't know Mizzoli coming off the
couch and other one maybe has as much

661
00:41:01.800 --> 00:41:07.960
at his disposal. All right,
this was and I feel like we've gotten

662
00:41:07.960 --> 00:41:12.440
to the point on here, you
know, and we've talked offline them online,

663
00:41:12.440 --> 00:41:15.440
and I think Jason is good at
being critical too, and Evan obviously,

664
00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:17.159
like, you know, we're kind
of getting into the league here,

665
00:41:17.239 --> 00:41:22.039
and okay, you can't say anything
or we get poot pooed on or whatever.

666
00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:24.639
Like we you know, twenty weeks
now here covering this, like you

667
00:41:24.679 --> 00:41:27.679
know what, we say what we
want on here now, and I think

668
00:41:27.719 --> 00:41:30.360
that we have at least, you
know, one percent authority to kind of

669
00:41:30.360 --> 00:41:34.119
say what we feel. I had
tweeted this out Friday following the BC Lions

670
00:41:34.159 --> 00:41:37.559
loss. Super disappointed to me.
We'll get into all this, but I

671
00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:39.880
just said, b C lines have
I have many bad losses this season.

672
00:41:40.280 --> 00:41:43.960
I've been told for months that they'll
show up when it matters. The culture,

673
00:41:44.039 --> 00:41:46.400
mindset of a team always matters,
even when the wind doesn't. This

674
00:41:46.519 --> 00:41:49.800
is not a championship team. As
much as it breaks my heart to say,

675
00:41:49.840 --> 00:41:52.440
we'll have many thoughts about it,
felt that way felt the end of

676
00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:57.639
the season, you know, was
really when I was there with the Winnipeg

677
00:41:57.639 --> 00:41:59.840
game, I thought, if they
don't get over that hump, I don't

678
00:42:00.039 --> 00:42:02.360
see this turning out any differently than
we did last year. We talked at

679
00:42:02.360 --> 00:42:07.039
the top of the show about all
of that stuff. To me, like

680
00:42:07.159 --> 00:42:10.320
I don't understand how you can go
in and be so flat in your last

681
00:42:10.320 --> 00:42:13.719
home game of the year, Like
we just said, Winnipeg, they're still

682
00:42:13.719 --> 00:42:16.760
putting up forty five. The game
doesn't matter at all, Like Dane looked

683
00:42:16.800 --> 00:42:22.599
bad. Everything looked bad, Jason, I guess I'll go to you first,

684
00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:23.880
Like I I caught we were out
and then I came. I'm like,

685
00:42:23.920 --> 00:42:27.039
okay, I gotta we came home, like I got to figure out

686
00:42:27.039 --> 00:42:29.440
what's going on here, sat down
and watch the last half of this game,

687
00:42:29.519 --> 00:42:31.760
Like what did you make of Just
like to me, this is like

688
00:42:31.960 --> 00:42:36.400
this is a disaster. I don't
know how you can like give Calgary the

689
00:42:36.480 --> 00:42:38.320
momentum here going in now they're going
to be coming back in your building.

690
00:42:38.719 --> 00:42:42.679
We already put up forty points against
you guys two weeks ago, like the

691
00:42:42.760 --> 00:42:46.519
Donut Boys. Like to me,
it's a non you know that, you

692
00:42:46.599 --> 00:42:50.320
say, like, oh BC whatever, like this is a non zero percent

693
00:42:50.400 --> 00:42:53.599
chance CALLERIY comes back in and runs
us up. Yeah, I mean I

694
00:42:53.639 --> 00:42:57.840
still think they're going to win that
game. Personally, because I think there

695
00:42:57.960 --> 00:43:01.880
was a lot of things in this
game that swung in Calgary's direction. Because

696
00:43:02.480 --> 00:43:07.800
you know, one thing I'll point
to is the two dropped interceptions that one

697
00:43:07.840 --> 00:43:09.840
of them would have for sure went
back for a touchdown by Gary Peters.

698
00:43:10.480 --> 00:43:15.199
You know, so I think Calgary
didn't really play that well. I don't

699
00:43:15.239 --> 00:43:20.559
think the score reflects that this game
was like a such a large spread.

700
00:43:20.599 --> 00:43:22.039
I think that, you know,
at the end of the day, it

701
00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:28.199
was actually a pretty close game in
terms of the actual level of play in

702
00:43:28.239 --> 00:43:30.320
this game. But I think that, you know, it's concerning that BC

703
00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:35.639
shows up flat in some of these
spots like this reminds me of that game

704
00:43:35.679 --> 00:43:38.239
that they lost to Hamilton earlier this
year, where they just looked like a

705
00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:43.719
team that could not match the other
team physically, and Calgary just kept on

706
00:43:43.800 --> 00:43:46.519
running it right down their throats time
and time again. And I think that's

707
00:43:46.559 --> 00:43:52.320
my biggest takeaway from this game is
that this finally looked like last year's Calgary

708
00:43:52.360 --> 00:43:57.239
team that's very capable of running the
football, plays some pretty good defense,

709
00:43:57.320 --> 00:44:00.559
you know, a capable defense that
has some flaws, but a team that

710
00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:04.079
really relies on that running game with
Kathien care who really showed up for the

711
00:44:04.119 --> 00:44:07.519
first time this season. Peyton Logan
was a difference maker as well. I

712
00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:10.519
always compare him to kind of Darren
Sproles, Like I think he's just a

713
00:44:10.599 --> 00:44:14.840
really fascinating player to watch, and
I think he had a big game in

714
00:44:14.880 --> 00:44:17.880
this one. And I think Calgary's
just kind of finding their groove at the

715
00:44:17.960 --> 00:44:23.400
right time here after sleepwalking through the
whole season. It's weird, like you

716
00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:25.920
know, and not to give too
much back on the hockey about it,

717
00:44:25.960 --> 00:44:30.920
but like Kraken are weird that way
too, Like we'll show up like women,

718
00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:34.559
seven road games in a row,
like like in a streak on the

719
00:44:34.639 --> 00:44:37.320
road, and then we'll come back
home and I completely lay an egg and

720
00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:38.559
like, I don't know if there's
something to do with like you know,

721
00:44:38.599 --> 00:44:44.280
the routine that goes into that.
But having lived in Seattle forever with the

722
00:44:44.280 --> 00:44:47.800
Seahawks, this feels very similar with
BC. Like the Seahawks will always play

723
00:44:47.840 --> 00:44:52.960
down to their opponent, right,
we turned the ball over three times against

724
00:44:52.960 --> 00:44:54.519
Arizona yesterday. I mean we won
twenty to ten, but you know,

725
00:44:54.639 --> 00:44:59.400
Gino had the horrendous day and the
fumble. These interceptions like you know,

726
00:44:59.440 --> 00:45:01.239
BC, like yeah, maybe that
maybe they'll go in and like, okay,

727
00:45:01.239 --> 00:45:04.360
we can go. Yeah, we
go toe to toe with Winnipeg and

728
00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:07.960
we go to overtime and all that
stuff, but we cannot show up here.

729
00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:12.239
Just to me, I'm tired of
that and I just wish that we

730
00:45:12.280 --> 00:45:15.519
could just come in and approach the
approach these games like a team that like

731
00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:19.519
actually thinks that we can be competitive
in the playoffs. I mean I was

732
00:45:19.519 --> 00:45:22.960
talking with people at BC like oh, it's fine, like we don't you

733
00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:24.679
know, it's Calgary, and like
I think we'll be fine. It's like

734
00:45:27.360 --> 00:45:30.800
at some point you need to there
needs to be accountability there. And I

735
00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:34.400
think especially in the league like the
CFL, like we're trying to rebuild the

736
00:45:34.440 --> 00:45:37.519
BC thing, like you can't lay
eggs at home like this. It's just

737
00:45:37.840 --> 00:45:42.280
to me, it's infuriating. Evan. I mean, look, I think

738
00:45:42.519 --> 00:45:45.360
I don't know some of this I
feel like is a bit exaggerated. Like

739
00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:52.159
Jason said, this game, I
mean like there wasn't there wasn't much Like

740
00:45:52.320 --> 00:45:54.360
this game meant way more for Calgary
than it did for BCS. You kind

741
00:45:54.360 --> 00:45:58.000
of have to look at it more
from the Calgary perspective. I understand,

742
00:45:58.039 --> 00:46:00.880
look last home game and the season, and you want to make a good

743
00:46:00.920 --> 00:46:04.880
impression, you come out flat.
I understand there were some important milestones on

744
00:46:04.920 --> 00:46:07.639
the line, Like I think Vernon
had a chance to go over five thousand

745
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:12.280
yards. Obviously that doesn't happen.
Dane Evans comes into the game, looks

746
00:46:13.159 --> 00:46:17.039
subpar, you could say, unfortunately, but yeah, I mean, you

747
00:46:17.079 --> 00:46:22.800
know, to me, this game
was just Calgary. It was more I

748
00:46:22.840 --> 00:46:27.079
think Calgary being in the must win
situation and just saying, like, you

749
00:46:27.119 --> 00:46:30.280
know what, like are we've most
of our season, we've just you know,

750
00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:34.000
been really slow. We haven't really
got things together. Now is the

751
00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:36.679
time where it all kind of comes
together, because this, to be honest,

752
00:46:37.079 --> 00:46:38.760
I mean, as much as you
know, Jason, like I agree

753
00:46:38.800 --> 00:46:45.679
when it comes to like the on
field play was was relatively fair. Like

754
00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:47.960
you know, both teams I think
played at a certain level. It's just

755
00:46:49.039 --> 00:46:52.320
BC missed out on some opportunities.
I agree with that, but I still

756
00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:55.719
feel like this was one of the
most complete performances that we've seen from Calgary

757
00:46:55.800 --> 00:47:00.400
all year, and for once,
it didn't take you know, just one

758
00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:02.760
player to really like, you know, Jake Mayer didn't have to throw for

759
00:47:02.800 --> 00:47:07.000
four hundred yards or something crazy like
that to bail him out. You know,

760
00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:09.280
he only had to throw for one
hundred and twenty three yards, but

761
00:47:09.360 --> 00:47:14.599
was very efficient doing so, had
two touchdowns. The run game finally got

762
00:47:14.599 --> 00:47:16.960
going, and it was actually Peyton
Logan who got a majority of the work

763
00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:22.119
instead of Kadeem Carey who you know, I I don't know. I probably

764
00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:25.639
haven't talked about Kadem Carry as much
of the season just because exactly they haven't

765
00:47:25.639 --> 00:47:30.480
had the same success running the ball. You could say the same for Saskatchewan

766
00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:34.440
and even BC to a degree.
I will say the one guy in this

767
00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:40.119
game Jakwan Hardy. He's an interesting
prospect that was kind of you know,

768
00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:45.679
he bounced. He kind of bounced
I think between the practice roster and active

769
00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:49.280
roster for BC this season. I
don't really know when he was there the

770
00:47:49.320 --> 00:47:51.679
first time, or if he was
there in training camp. I haven't really

771
00:47:51.719 --> 00:47:54.119
been following too much of his recent
history, but I do know that he

772
00:47:54.159 --> 00:48:00.559
came from a Division two school at
Tiffin, played previously for the Dallasys and

773
00:48:00.559 --> 00:48:04.880
scored a touchdown with them. I
remember that very well. Again, any

774
00:48:05.079 --> 00:48:07.480
small school player like that, I
enjoy looking at things like that. So

775
00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:10.880
Jakwan Hardy, I mean, unfortunately, look, you know, eleven carries

776
00:48:10.920 --> 00:48:15.800
forty one yards one touchdown really wasn't
too exciting. I mean, you're averaging

777
00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:21.039
under four yards to carry. You
know, still a lot to you know,

778
00:48:21.320 --> 00:48:22.800
be desired there, but I feel
like that's a piece again. I

779
00:48:22.840 --> 00:48:25.880
mean, if you're BC, you
know, going into the playoffs, you

780
00:48:25.920 --> 00:48:30.519
know, I'm sure you know there's
a lot of different feelings there. Jaquan

781
00:48:30.559 --> 00:48:32.000
Hardy, I feel like it's one
of those guys where you know, maybe

782
00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:36.480
you go into the offseason and he's, you know, somebody that you evaluate

783
00:48:36.519 --> 00:48:40.119
a bit more in depth, especially
given you know you've tried a lot.

784
00:48:40.239 --> 00:48:44.400
I feel like in the run game, there's been a couple couple different people

785
00:48:44.840 --> 00:48:47.679
to Kwan Mizell, Sean Shivers that
have come in there, you know,

786
00:48:47.760 --> 00:48:51.639
to try and do something and it
just hasn't really worked out. So again,

787
00:48:51.920 --> 00:48:54.880
maybe you further evaluate something there.
And now now I'm just kind of

788
00:48:54.880 --> 00:48:59.920
getting into players, but we'll roll
with it. Justin mcinness, some of

789
00:49:00.119 --> 00:49:04.159
we talked about at great length at
the beginning of the season. Then you

790
00:49:04.199 --> 00:49:07.559
know, you had guys like Alex
Hollins and Keon Hatcher kind of take over,

791
00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:12.159
you know, in the receiving game. Again, we all know how

792
00:49:12.199 --> 00:49:15.840
diverse that receiving corps is, but
McInnis you know, stood out in this

793
00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:19.679
game, which was you know,
good to see. And then yeah,

794
00:49:19.719 --> 00:49:22.679
on the Calgary side, like I
said, and we talked about Peyton Logan,

795
00:49:22.760 --> 00:49:27.960
we talked about Jake Mayer. Reggie
Bagelton, I'm not sure. I

796
00:49:28.239 --> 00:49:31.320
think he was already over the thousand
yard fresh gold going into this game.

797
00:49:31.320 --> 00:49:35.039
Pretty well over that, I think, So not really much on the line

798
00:49:35.039 --> 00:49:37.920
there, but again, somebody who
you know, through the thick and thin

799
00:49:37.039 --> 00:49:40.320
this season for Calgary has been a
guy that they can rely on, you

800
00:49:40.320 --> 00:49:44.440
know, regardless of you know,
what's going on. Somebody that you can

801
00:49:44.519 --> 00:49:46.280
just always, you know, throw
to and there's a good chance to the

802
00:49:46.360 --> 00:49:50.239
play will be made. So,
you know, Bagelton I'm sure is happy,

803
00:49:50.320 --> 00:49:52.400
given that you know, he's been
you know, doing things in Calgary

804
00:49:52.440 --> 00:49:55.519
for a couple of years now and
even had a stand with the Packers kind

805
00:49:55.519 --> 00:49:59.880
of in between that, I'm sure
he's happy that his team is playoff bat

806
00:50:00.519 --> 00:50:02.960
They're all happy obviously the team's playoff
bound again, like I don't think.

807
00:50:04.679 --> 00:50:07.480
It just seems like such an unprecedented
position, you know, not just to

808
00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:10.360
them, but I think to a
lot of other people in the league as

809
00:50:10.400 --> 00:50:14.440
well. So that's kind of where
I'm out on that game. Look,

810
00:50:14.440 --> 00:50:17.199
you know, bc unfortunate turn of
events there. You know, it wasn't

811
00:50:17.199 --> 00:50:21.559
a very entertaining last game at home. But I don't know, again,

812
00:50:21.599 --> 00:50:23.159
I just don't think this is the
game to be getting mad about. Yes,

813
00:50:23.199 --> 00:50:27.119
you want to have momentum going into
the playoffs, but at the same

814
00:50:27.199 --> 00:50:30.119
time, like you know, if
you don't, if you don't have as

815
00:50:30.199 --> 00:50:34.000
much to play for, or really
nothing to play for, given that,

816
00:50:34.079 --> 00:50:37.599
you know, they were pretty much
just in second and that was it.

817
00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:39.000
You know, well, I guess
if they won, you know, maybe

818
00:50:39.000 --> 00:50:42.719
they could have extended it. But
then Winnipeg, you know, beat Edmonton

819
00:50:42.760 --> 00:50:45.320
anyway. So again that's where all
the you know, interesting scenarios come into

820
00:50:45.320 --> 00:50:49.840
play that I don't really know enough
about about excuse me to talk about.

821
00:50:50.159 --> 00:50:52.960
Uh so I'm not going to go
into that. But yeah, ultimately,

822
00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:57.199
again I just feel like the one
interesting this game is so much more interesting

823
00:50:57.280 --> 00:51:00.360
now that we know Calgary is going
to the playoffs and you're gonna turnround in

824
00:51:00.519 --> 00:51:02.440
a couple of weeks and the same
matchup is going to happen at the same

825
00:51:02.440 --> 00:51:07.119
place. That's the only thing where
I'm like, okay, because again we

826
00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:10.239
kind of all expected Saskatchewan to come
in and play BC. And again,

827
00:51:10.599 --> 00:51:14.840
you know which team is better to
play? I don't really know BC should

828
00:51:14.880 --> 00:51:19.119
be beating either of those teams pretty
handedly, but you know, yeah,

829
00:51:19.119 --> 00:51:22.559
and you got to ask yourself,
like maybe Calgary, like again, they

830
00:51:22.920 --> 00:51:25.239
they're starting to know this team a
bit better. They've played them, you

831
00:51:25.239 --> 00:51:29.280
know, I feel like so many
times now this season they'll be playing them

832
00:51:29.280 --> 00:51:32.280
again in the playoffs. I saw
Calgary play at BC, you know,

833
00:51:32.719 --> 00:51:36.960
going back to the beginning of August, Like I saw that matchup live,

834
00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:39.559
and yeah, the fact that that's
a playoff matchup again is still still a

835
00:51:39.559 --> 00:51:43.480
bit beyond me. But again,
funny things happen, and yeah, well

836
00:51:43.519 --> 00:51:45.679
it'll be interesting to see, you
know what Calgary does again with that sort

837
00:51:45.719 --> 00:51:50.599
of you know, recency bias or
from clarity or whatever you want to call

838
00:51:50.639 --> 00:51:52.239
it, because they could take advantage
of that. Again, BC should definitely

839
00:51:52.239 --> 00:51:55.360
be winning that game, but maybe
it's more competitive with Calgary, you know,

840
00:51:55.440 --> 00:51:59.800
ripping this one off. Yeah,
I just I'm looking here at this

841
00:52:00.480 --> 00:52:01.760
is like you know, and we've
talked to all season like, oh,

842
00:52:01.880 --> 00:52:06.760
you know BC, like I mean
they're twelve and six. I mean al

843
00:52:06.840 --> 00:52:08.400
Wett's are ten and seven. If
they win over you know, they win

844
00:52:08.440 --> 00:52:14.519
this weekend, they're eleven and seven. Like we've talked about like the slide

845
00:52:14.559 --> 00:52:17.119
in the roller coaster of the Alouettes
all season here and like you know,

846
00:52:17.280 --> 00:52:20.920
I mean BC, in terms of
their record here, twelve and six is

847
00:52:21.039 --> 00:52:22.639
not I don't know, like to
me, there was just a lot of

848
00:52:22.679 --> 00:52:25.199
winnable games here that we kind of
like go down the slide. And to

849
00:52:25.320 --> 00:52:28.719
me, like I've already said a
lot of complacency, I like, well,

850
00:52:28.760 --> 00:52:30.440
you know, like Winnipeg's gonna win
anyway, so who cares, Like

851
00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:34.400
we'll take second. The last thing
for me, will go back to Jason

852
00:52:34.440 --> 00:52:38.360
and then we'll probably get out of
here soon, you know, goodbye.

853
00:52:38.480 --> 00:52:43.199
Vernon an mop debate, like you
know, and I know he was kind

854
00:52:43.199 --> 00:52:45.239
of banged up right like you get
mount like we're not even bringing him out

855
00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:49.199
the second and I know we talked
about the whole chack Kelly of it all

856
00:52:49.239 --> 00:52:52.760
and all that, but like BC
at least had quote unquote something to play

857
00:52:52.760 --> 00:52:54.920
for here in terms of trying to
at least get get first, even if

858
00:52:54.920 --> 00:52:59.039
it was kind of a few top
point, what did you make adjacent to

859
00:52:59.079 --> 00:53:01.400
that, Like, I mean,
say to the Vernon the MLP debate,

860
00:53:02.039 --> 00:53:07.079
Well, it was weird considering what
they said going into this game, like

861
00:53:07.159 --> 00:53:09.280
we want to put pressure on Winnipeg
to win those last two games, like

862
00:53:09.320 --> 00:53:13.880
we're gonna go well out to win
this game, and then they pull Vernon

863
00:53:13.920 --> 00:53:16.679
at halftime. So I mean that
kind of confused me. But I did

864
00:53:16.760 --> 00:53:20.280
get it. I think, you
know, with the way the game was

865
00:53:20.320 --> 00:53:22.960
going, he was taking a lot
of hits and he didn't necessarily look very

866
00:53:22.960 --> 00:53:27.119
good in that first half at all. So I mean, I get it,

867
00:53:27.199 --> 00:53:30.360
you give Dane some playing time,
but Dane didn't look much better either,

868
00:53:30.519 --> 00:53:36.000
So I mean, just a weird
game for BC. I also thought

869
00:53:36.079 --> 00:53:38.920
the penalties went against them a lot
in this game. I don't like to

870
00:53:38.960 --> 00:53:44.280
blame the refs, but I think
there was a lot of calls that swung

871
00:53:44.280 --> 00:53:46.920
in Calgary's direction, so I think
that played a factor and why the score

872
00:53:47.000 --> 00:53:51.760
was so lopsided. But at the
end of the day, very disappointing effort

873
00:53:51.760 --> 00:53:57.000
from BC In this one one positive
thing, Matthew Betts set the Canadian sack

874
00:53:57.119 --> 00:54:01.840
record with eighteen sacks on the season, and I wasn't even sure when I

875
00:54:01.840 --> 00:54:07.679
first saw that that it really was
his sack, but ultimately they decided to

876
00:54:07.679 --> 00:54:09.800
count it as his sack because there's
two guys kind of closing in at the

877
00:54:09.800 --> 00:54:15.400
same time. But congratulations to him
for breaking that record. And then for

878
00:54:15.519 --> 00:54:19.760
Calgary, I mean, Reggie Bangleton, that catch near the goal line really

879
00:54:19.840 --> 00:54:23.159
was the exclamation mark on that first
half and the way that Calgary came out

880
00:54:23.519 --> 00:54:28.559
and won that first half. Just
amazing catch. And I just like how

881
00:54:28.679 --> 00:54:30.360
Jake Mayer was just like he had
a bunch of time in the pocket and

882
00:54:30.400 --> 00:54:32.880
he just like, screw it,
I'm just gonna give my guy a shot,

883
00:54:32.920 --> 00:54:37.000
and he came down with it.
Yeah. I don't know, sports

884
00:54:37.079 --> 00:54:39.719
are weird like it just in terms
of like we talked like the big mo

885
00:54:40.079 --> 00:54:45.719
like momentum and all that kind of
stuff, and we were into the cracking

886
00:54:45.760 --> 00:54:51.079
game on Saturday, and like the
game starts out and like we're just on

887
00:54:51.159 --> 00:54:52.440
fire. Like I think we had
like two or three shots on goal in

888
00:54:52.440 --> 00:54:55.960
the first forty five seconds and then
they stopped the game and we're like,

889
00:54:57.360 --> 00:54:59.679
you know, we're there, so
like okay, what's going on and we're

890
00:54:59.679 --> 00:55:01.440
trying to pull up the game and
listen, and something was wrong with one

891
00:55:01.480 --> 00:55:05.320
of the lights and they didn't it
wasn't even on the ice, and so

892
00:55:05.400 --> 00:55:07.440
then they had to do this whole
like back and forth, switching you know,

893
00:55:07.559 --> 00:55:10.239
back like every ten minutes, we
had to switch sides of the ice

894
00:55:10.280 --> 00:55:14.360
and like it just messed with our
heads right and like the crack and just

895
00:55:14.360 --> 00:55:16.719
were never able to get back together
with it. It just kind of it

896
00:55:16.800 --> 00:55:20.760
was just a really weird game.
Like this feels like that, like I

897
00:55:20.800 --> 00:55:22.840
don't know, like with sports and
c IS, it's such a swing And

898
00:55:22.880 --> 00:55:28.400
I just hope that BC this doesn't
like weigh on them here and they I

899
00:55:28.639 --> 00:55:30.920
know, we had Eddie Steele on
a few weeks ago and he said,

900
00:55:30.960 --> 00:55:32.639
like no and it's signed to play, like you'll show up for your home

901
00:55:32.639 --> 00:55:37.719
playoff game. But that is my
last concern about Evan anything else. That

902
00:55:37.760 --> 00:55:40.119
we'll probably wrap this up here soon. Yeah, I mean, look,

903
00:55:40.320 --> 00:55:45.760
you know, it's it's tough because
like with you know, I mean you

904
00:55:45.800 --> 00:55:49.159
were talking about Vernon MLP. I
mean that kind of ended after the Winnipeg

905
00:55:49.280 --> 00:55:52.559
game. You know, I feel
like I just if you're BC, like

906
00:55:52.760 --> 00:55:55.880
you know, owner of these playoffs, like I the momentum right now,

907
00:55:55.880 --> 00:55:58.960
I don't really know where the momentum
is that, you know, when you're

908
00:55:58.960 --> 00:56:00.639
gonna need a lot of moment to
him. I mean I think, well,

909
00:56:00.960 --> 00:56:04.599
not necessarily to beat Calgary at home
again, that should be fine.

910
00:56:04.639 --> 00:56:07.519
If if something happens there, boy, we're gonna be having an interesting show.

911
00:56:07.599 --> 00:56:10.519
But anyway, yeah, I mean
that, I mean we're all just

912
00:56:10.639 --> 00:56:15.440
all eyes like it's crazy. Again. Just never fails to amaze me.

913
00:56:15.480 --> 00:56:19.639
How we were talking about this like
BC Winnipeg matchup in like June, like

914
00:56:19.719 --> 00:56:21.760
right when the season started, we
were like, well, this is probably

915
00:56:21.800 --> 00:56:24.840
gonna be the West Final again,
you know, and I mean East Final.

916
00:56:24.960 --> 00:56:30.519
Yeah, it'll probably be you know
again well probably yeah, I mean

917
00:56:30.719 --> 00:56:35.280
I thought maybe back then it would
be it could still be Hamilton, you

918
00:56:35.280 --> 00:56:37.039
know, in Toronto, in Montreal. You know, we'll see, right,

919
00:56:37.239 --> 00:56:42.440
But like the West Final just felt
so you know, kind of locked

920
00:56:42.519 --> 00:56:45.599
up early, like I just didn't
really see any other teams that we're gonna,

921
00:56:45.639 --> 00:56:47.480
you know, rise to that level
and sure enough, yeah, here

922
00:56:47.519 --> 00:56:51.239
we are again, you know,
still talking about all these months later,

923
00:56:51.360 --> 00:56:54.039
but in terms of a result,
like you know, I don't know,

924
00:56:54.159 --> 00:57:00.159
yeah, like just BC going into
Winnipeg again, like we've said it so

925
00:57:00.159 --> 00:57:01.800
many times, but now that it's
like the end of the season in BC,

926
00:57:02.360 --> 00:57:05.599
you know, is right at the
doorstep of the playoffs, it's like,

927
00:57:06.039 --> 00:57:07.000
you know, where where is this
team really at? You know,

928
00:57:07.079 --> 00:57:10.320
like we're gonna we'll see in that
Calgary game, you know, that playoff

929
00:57:10.320 --> 00:57:13.559
game, what they're able to do, you know, and how that kind

930
00:57:13.599 --> 00:57:17.159
of plays a role in the really
important again that West final is just like

931
00:57:17.719 --> 00:57:21.880
I mean, we've had a couple
you know, Game of the Year candidates,

932
00:57:21.880 --> 00:57:24.960
including that last one between BC and
Winnipeg and BC. But you know,

933
00:57:25.159 --> 00:57:29.199
boy, I mean, if this
team can you know, capture some

934
00:57:29.360 --> 00:57:31.880
of that momentum again, and I
don't want to say they've lost any but

935
00:57:31.880 --> 00:57:35.400
if they can you know, really
get back in the swing of things,

936
00:57:35.400 --> 00:57:38.039
I mean, who knows what the
odds are of them actually going into Winnipeg

937
00:57:38.159 --> 00:57:42.360
and pulling that one out, but
at least to make it an entertaining game

938
00:57:42.400 --> 00:57:45.840
and not you know, Winnipeg just
blowing the wheels off them in the snow

939
00:57:45.880 --> 00:57:49.400
and having it done by halftime.
I think that would be a good That

940
00:57:49.599 --> 00:57:53.639
would definitely I think help the CFL
as a whole more than anything. I

941
00:57:54.000 --> 00:57:58.400
like as I watched Moneyball over the
weekend and the Brad Pitt where he was

942
00:57:58.440 --> 00:58:01.559
the GM of the Oakland A's and
doing all that and they won the twenty

943
00:58:01.599 --> 00:58:05.679
games in a row, and he
said, he was talking at the end

944
00:58:05.719 --> 00:58:07.960
of the movie, goes, you
know, unless you win that last game

945
00:58:07.000 --> 00:58:09.360
of the series, it doesn't matter, you know, it doesn't matter how

946
00:58:09.400 --> 00:58:14.880
many games we've won or whatever.
And I don't know. I mean,

947
00:58:14.960 --> 00:58:16.760
we'll see it's time to play up
for Jason. Anything else, I gotta

948
00:58:16.840 --> 00:58:22.280
go film here, No, not
nothing else for me just looking over my

949
00:58:22.400 --> 00:58:24.519
notes here. I mean, one
thing I noticed right away in this game

950
00:58:24.679 --> 00:58:29.719
was the first couple of plays of
the game. You know, Calgary draws

951
00:58:29.800 --> 00:58:34.320
up these perfect passing plays deep down
the field, both drops by the Calgary

952
00:58:34.320 --> 00:58:37.480
receivers, and that's been a trend
for them the entire season. So if

953
00:58:37.519 --> 00:58:39.239
they're gonna beat BC again, I
think they're gonna have to have a better

954
00:58:39.239 --> 00:58:45.800
effort from the receivers outside of Babilton. All right, well, I appreciate

955
00:58:45.840 --> 00:58:47.440
it. Check out Jason's channel.
Like I said, we got our great

956
00:58:47.440 --> 00:58:51.519
Cup show coming. We'll get all
that figured out. That lots of guests

957
00:58:51.519 --> 00:58:54.079
and stuff for that. I think
it should be a plethora of wonderful people

958
00:58:54.079 --> 00:58:59.599
on that. I appreciate everyone.
And we'll figure out this week XFL stuff

959
00:58:59.599 --> 00:59:01.079
coming down maybe, and then I
gotta figure out who we want to hear

960
00:59:01.119 --> 00:59:06.400
from CFL wise, but yeah,
we'll figure out next week. It could

961
00:59:06.400 --> 00:59:08.480
be a little ugly there, so
let's say we'll brainstorm offline, so I'll

962
00:59:08.480 --> 00:59:10.239
see everyone that next time. Thanks
so much.

