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Now one of your pudding. I
got a string going on here, something

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just cause my dog. Something killed
your dog? My dog. We're flying

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through the or over the tree.
I don't know how it did it,

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Okay, Damn, I'm really confused. All I saw was my dog coming

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over the fence and he was dead. And once you hit the ground like,

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I didn't see any cars. All
I saw was my dog coming over

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the fence. Sat what are you
putting? We got some wonder or something

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crawling around out here? Did you
see what it was? Or was it

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was? Standing enough? I'm out
here looking through the window now and I

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don't see anything. I don't want
to go outside. Jesus Quice you better

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hello, hit somebody out here?
What quent on out there? I've thought

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of a bit of about sixty forty
nine. I don't know. Easy him

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out there? Yeah, I'm right. Oh. Greetings from Alaska. This

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is Fred Ruhle, curent On Travel
Council member from Dongham, Alaska. What

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I want to share with you today
is an email. I got it just

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last week. What I tried to
do, just so everyone's aware, I

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read your emails repetitively because I've been
through some things I relived in my mind

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the person's experience, so I could
better explain it to you, guys.

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It's just how my mind works.
I look at things from all sides,

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kind of down. I don't know. Maybe it's OCD and I don't know

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it. Now. This happened on
the Yetna River, which is just north

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of Little Ways going towards Fairbanks,
the exact place down the Jetna. I

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was asked to leave that part out
of it. We'll say the Jetna River.

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Okay, Now where this particular incident
occurred. It was approximately three years

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ago. It was at the end
of caribou hunting. They were back up

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in there doing trout fishing. They
had a canoe, but most of the

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time it was at a narrow part
of the river. They would drag it.

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Right now, it wasn't the main
Yetna let me specify. It was

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a glorified river creek that fed into
the Jetna. It was fairly shallow,

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fairly narrow, and the trout were
in some deep pockets and that's where they

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were going for them. They ended
up parking their boat, their canoe.

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They get out and they walk along
the grassy edge on either side of this

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creek. Now when they get to
the point to start fishing. Initially,

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there's two of them as the day
goes on, because they were there for

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three days before this incident occurred.
So they were basically repeating the same thing

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they had been doing for a couple
of days, going to this little honey

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hole for pan frying trout and loving
it. Right. They're having a great

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time. They had a successful hunt, and that's living the dream. You

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got your caribou meat for the winter
to go man Land is some trout,

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cook them over and open ah.
It doesn't get much better. So they're

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doing their thing. They got a
little rhythm down with their movements and stuff.

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Their third buddy shows up. He
was in hip waiters and he had

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just sloshed on through the water and
took his time hiking around on some of

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the game shows to get back to
where they were. They were very comfortable

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where they were at. There had
been nothing out of the ordinary, not

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during the caribou hunt, none of
it. They were just having a great,

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old lasting experience. They're all local. That's to leave that out,

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because where they happened to live is
a very small place. Respect that.

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Now, as they were talking across
this little creek. It's not very wide.

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There was this one particular honey hole
where there was some old either alders

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or willows that had been broken and
it kind of hung down by this little

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creek. Now right off the side
of this little glorified river creek. It

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was about ten twelve feet to where
the alders and the willows got thick.

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So you had tall grass on either
side at some scrub brush and some berry

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bushes and stuff. At this particular
spot there was these willows or alders they

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popular or something. They didn't go
and inspect. It was about thirty feet

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from them where these branches and stuff
were going off into the water and just

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towards them from that little blockage or
hanging over the water, it created a

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shadow in the water and the trout
would pock it up in there in the

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relative safety. They're doing the fly
fishing thing. Instead of just walking up

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the creek and scooping them out with
a gnat. They were fishing. So

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they're doing their thing. He's working
this fly rod and as he's working at

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his buddy on the opposite side is
trying to time here, you know,

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his while his fly lands and then
he's pulling it back. The other guy's

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trying to land his fly, pull
it back. They're just dicking around.

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They're just being guys, just doing
stupid shit. They're having phone sitting.

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They're laughing because eventually they started laughing
at each other because it was going really

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well. And then all of a
sudden they got tired up and the you

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know, they reeled in so they're
closer together and they can unlash the lion.

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Now they're on opposites eyes of this
not very wide creek. It was

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about three times as wide as a
canoe, so you're looking at six hundred

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feet wide, not very wide at
all. They're reaching out, flinging their

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lions. Done tag. They got
boots on, but they're just they were

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young, early twins. Third guy
who had on chest waiters goes around.

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We'll call him guy number one.
Okay, let's call him Chris. The

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guy across the creek, we'll call
him Doug. And we'll call the guy

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in the hip or chess waters,
we'll call him Fred. Okay, just

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keep it simple. Chris jugging.
Fred Craig goes around him and is going

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up to check out that blockage and
him he's laughing. He goes, I'm

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gonna see if I could massage one's
belly and fling it out of the creek.

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He was gonna check his skills out
see if he could do it.

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And so he goes over it.
He starts moving the brush that was stuck

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in there, and he was like, is there beavers around here? And

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he holds up one of the branches
and his freight and broke it. It

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wasn't chewed off like a beaver.
Anyone ever see a beaver chew if you

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haven't googled it, it's very distinct. He can't mistake it anything else.

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There was no beaver shoe mark.
So they're like what He's like, Look,

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that's weird. It's so someone must
have did this on purpose to make

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a little shadow area for the fish. Right he goes, okay, I

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get it. So he stopped destroying
it. He respects the fact that,

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oh, someone intentionally did this,
and that's why we're able to fish for

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these trout right here, because it's
given them a sense of safety in the

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shade and the shadow from hawks and
whatever. So he's okay, he fixes

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it and he backs out. He
gets out of the creek and he goes

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okay, he recognizes he was about
to destroy something that worked for somebody that

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could be potentially feeding him or whatever. So he backs up on the bank

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and they got their lines untied and
stuff, and as they're discussing what they're

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going to do, they hear something
hit the water and they're like, ohl

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Offs is nearby. Because where they
were staying, you have to follow this

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river back down to where it meets
the Yentna, and then you got to

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go back up river to where they
were camping, where the cabin was.

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Where they were at right, so
they're a little ways away from the cabin,

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and so as they're sitting there discussing
who could possibly be throwing rocks in

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the creek and that type of thing, who would want to do that?

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One of them was armed. Only
one of them had a twenty two pistol.

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Versus bruce grouse or a small game. Bears weren't on their radar.

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It just didn't feel like a threatening
environment. Nothing had happened, so they

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felt, we don't need a gun. Nothing big. We got a twenty

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two. We'll make noise, it'll
run whatever it is. Periodically, rocks

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drop and it's starting to get to
the point where they're looking because they're figuring

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they would see the rocks goinging in
like this, but these things were coming

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almost straight down, so I whoever
was throwing them real high so they'd come

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straight down into the water. So
they catch on to this and they start

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looking in what they thought, would
you know, be the direction they were

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coming, trying to figure out.
Well, as they're doing this, Fred

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and the chest Waiters, he gets
hit with one of these rocks and he

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gets hit in the back of his
chest. Waiters heard it hit didn't really

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feel it too much because they were
really baggy. They blown out on and

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with the straps, so he didn't
really feel the impact. But he heard

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the bulko against the knapried and he
was like, hey something, one of

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those whoever it has just hit me
in the back with it. So they

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all turn around to look the direction
that he got hit in the back.

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Front. Now, as they're doing
this, behind them, they hear that

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canoe rip out of the water,
just if you can imagine that, just

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a canoe leaving the water really fast, and they all whip around to see

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what the hell is this. All
they catch is a dark big year halfway

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into the tree lined, and the
canoe just boom, impacting into the brush.

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Now, this all happened very fast, a woosh sound. They whip

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around things already halfway in the trees, canoes landing right just like that.

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And they're immediately like, what the
hell is this? Because all the shit

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that was in that canoe, no
raining down and decorate in the opposite side

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of the creek where their canoe is
now got a new home resting in the

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alders. They didn't know what the
hell to do. They were stuck,

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and they were trying to make out
what did we see cut into those trees?

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The what was that bigfoot? Harry
Man? None of that was even

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on their radar. They never entertained
the thought ever. And I asked him

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when I was talking to him about
his experience, I said, what was

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your knowledge of the Harry matter big
foot before this? He was like,

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you'd hear stuff. But he is
like, I never looked at that crid

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That was garbage. There's no way
I was going to rop my mind with

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that. He called it hillbilly bullshit, and I was like, oh,

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okay, continue on. No prayer
experience with these kind of things. They're

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stuck they're looking at each other,
but none of them have the words.

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None of them have the words to
get out and express how they're feeling.

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It wasn't like PTSD traumatizing, but
they were in a certain lene of shock.

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I can imagine You're in the middle
of nowhere, don't believe in this

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thing. All of a sudden,
coooo, your canoe goes flying and you

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see a dark bie here going to
the trees. Canoes are not light.

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This was a sixteen foot marine grade
canoe of cole mean, those things weigh

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g's almost two hundred pounds just in
of themselves, plus it was loaded with

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cooler gear, all this stuff.
This was their little base camp when they

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got away from the main camp,
because they would spike camp along the river

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and stuff, so they had some
stuff in there. It wasn't just some

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empty, lightweight thing. This thing
was long, a good thirty feet,

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So they finally start figuring out stuff. So these guys are obviously creaked.

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Their canoe went for freaking ride.
They're stuck on stupid on the opposite side

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of this creek because once this stuff
went down, the rocks were being thrown

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dug on the opposite side of the
creek from Chris and Fred got on the

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other side of the creek during the
rock throwing before you got hit in the

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back in the went for a ride. So then being on the same side,

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they all look at each other.
Doug is the one that had the

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little twenty two pistol for the shrub
grouse or whatever the spruce chickens, and

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they immediately recognized, we need to
freaking go. They were not going to

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go and retrieve that canoe because it
was in the direction of that big whatever

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and the hell that just was and
they weren't having none of that. So

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they start backing out. They're just
real paranoid, understandably that all their funny

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games just went out the freaking door
on a canoe ride into the shrubs.

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Right. They immediately recognized the threat. The way Chris had explained it to

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me was it was a very unspoken
threat. I asked him, this seemed

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like it was in the air,
and he said that was the closest kind

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of analogy he could come up with. Two they start backing out of there.

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They're going back down this little river
creek whatever to get to the na

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and then hike back up to the
cabin. And they were motivated. They

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were trying not to pettic because they
didn't want to spark any kind of predator

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flight chase kind of thing. So
they get down to the Vietna and just

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as they meet where this glorified river
connects with the Vietna, they're cut up

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because the trail kind of cuts off
the point and then drops down onto the

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bank of the river, and it
cuts up onto the bank and then back

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down as you're going back up the
river, just because brush will hang out

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too far, and then you go
around it and it just over time becomes

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a game trail or whatever. So
they're doing this number and just as they

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get around on the Jetna and they're
starting down the bank a little bit,

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trying to discuss a little more because
they're snapping out of their shock of what

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the hell through a canoe like that, And they're talking about it couldn't have

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been a bear? Could a bear
do that? They were debating the bear

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thing, right, It's understandable they
had no other reference, right, So

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as they're starting to get up on
the bank to go around this bundle of

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shrubs to get onto the other side
of the bank and continue going towards the

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cabin, they heard a series of
grunts and screams. He said he couldn't

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even put it into words, but
a woman being murdered is a close sound

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and like a lion roar type deal, but same time. And so they're

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immediately even more motivated now because after
the scream sounds, they hear something paralleling

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of just behind them in the tree
line. But it's catching up fast,

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right, big impacts on the ground, thump, and they're like, oh,

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so Doug with the twenty two shoots
two times in the air just to

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make noise, bang bang. Once
he did that, the movement came even

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faster and it passed them out of
just out of you. They're seeing trees

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and stuff shake. So they're they're
on the river bank. I get.

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I can imagine that just crashed through
there, And they said it sounded like

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a bulldozer going eighty miles an hour
through the trees, because it sounded like

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it was the biggest thing around and
it was making a large show of whatever

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the hell it was doing. And
as it got a little bit of ways

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away, they heard the crashing circling
back a little further distance away, So

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they snap out of it, and
they say, okay, we need to

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get moving. Since this moving back
this way, let's go that way and

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get to the cabin. So they're
doing their thing. They're doing this little

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jump up the bank, follow the
trail, get down on the river bank

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again there, because that's how it
is. You got shrubs hanging over,

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you're not going to take a swim. And so they're doing what they have

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to do to get the hell out
of dodge. Doug's in the rear with

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this twenty two, and he had
no confidence in it. After hearing that

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whatever it was crashing and banging through
the woods, he knew that he'd be

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better off shooting Chris or Fred and
the knee to get away. So they

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get to a point to where the
trail cuts up onto the bank and then

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it goes up this rise past some
tundra and some muskeg and some black spruce,

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and then comes back the trail cuts
back down to the river, and

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there's four large rocks or something like
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How to get back across the yetna
at that point to get to their

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cabin about another a mile or so
up the river, right, So they

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go up the rise. They get
to the point to where the tundra and

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the black spruce meet the muskeg or
whatever. They get to that point and

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they decide they're going to look back
because the whole time there was noise going

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on, but it stayed in that
general area when it circled back and they

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made their move. So they're trying
to they're at a higher raised area and

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they're trying to get a vantage point
to make out what is doing this because

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they felt they were at a safe
distance. So as they're standing up there,

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they get the idea. Because once
they got and actually trying to start

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looking in that direction, all that
show or whatever was going on stop dead

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silence. Doug It again said I'll
shoot one more time in the air.

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He had reloaded at this time,
he'd took an out the two dead ones,

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put in two fresh ones. It's
just a little six shots, single

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six little ruger, single action.
Any hunter out there knows exactly what I'm

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talking about. So he goes,
I'm going to put one in the air

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and see if we can get a
reaction out of it and get a look

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at this thing, because this was
a good At this point, they're looking

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down into the trees, and it's
a good one hundred and fifty yards away,

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and they felt very confident that they
could just get out of there and

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have enough room to move anyway and
make them move or defend themselves whatever.

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Okay, yeah, do it.
We'll keep an eye out. So they're

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looking. Bang, they're shoot in
the air right the direction they have to

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go, because they came up a
trail with the tree line on the left.

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They come up the rise, the
tree line still on the left,

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it curves around and goes back down
to the jenna. Now the ruckus is

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coming down where the trail meets the
river where they got to go in the

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trees just basically behind them when they
shot. So they're looking over here.

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Bang, where's it at? Oh, it's down here behind us doing the

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same shit now. So they don't
know what the hell to do. I

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wouldn't either. So they went off
road, and so to speak, they

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started b learning across the tundra to
the next little black spruce across the way,

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and what their plan was to get
the frick out of there. Gets

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some clear tundra between them so they
can see where it's moving, because they

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didn't see it moving. The trees
to get back behind him. Basically,

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now I wasn't directly behind him,
was kind of offset back to their right,

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but it's still behind them and they
didn't hear it. They get across

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the way there, and from what
he was telling me, when they got

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across there, he was having a
panic attack. He had dealt with childhood

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asthma and this like a very bad
asthma attack. So he had to meditate

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because he hadn't used Halo in years. So he's trying to calm himself down.

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He's on his knees breading the chest
waiters. He now has the twenty

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two pistol. Doug is relieving himself
in the trees. So they have no

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game plan. They just let their
game plan follow the trail get back to

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the cabin across the vienna. They
weren't having a good time at this point.

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Doug finishes his business, comes back
out. He wants the pistol back,

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and Fred said no, he goes, I got it. Don't worry

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that way. You don't have to
be the one in the rear. I'm

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a little bigger than you. You
could lead the group. We'll keep Crispy

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twin us and Will Will make our
go. So they come up with the

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game plan, we'll follow this tree
line down because they're like a V shaped

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wedge to their left. Down in
that tree line over there, about sixty

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yards or so, was where the
ruck has happened behind them when they shot

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at the top of the rites.
Now they're going down to their right,

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so it's a wedge shape, so
noise over here. They're over here.

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They want to get down here and
look for another way to cross further up

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the river. They want to continue
to the cabin, So they work their

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way down, just edging the tree
line. As they're going along the high

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bush. Cranberries happen to be in
season, and they had this weird odor

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too. If you've ever been out
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I'm talking about. Not a musty, but it doesn't smell appealing, we'll

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put it that way. And so
they're catching this whift of bit right,

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and they're about half the distance they
have to cover to make it down to

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the end because they're not moving fast. They're moving stopping and listening. Now

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Fred having the gun, he's a
little bolder. Don't know why. It's

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only twenty two, but because he
had the gun. It was an mental

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thing far so he's a little bit
further away from that tree line as they're

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paralleling each other going down. He's
about ten feet away, and he's stepping

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in the thunder and the marsh and
stuff. They're making their way down.

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What Chris and Doug didn't know was
Fred wanted to try to shoot it.

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That's what he learned later. So
he's sinking he's gonna get him a wild

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man dragging in make money or something. He found this out once they made

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to the cabin. Anyway, So
they're doing their thing, and this guy's

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bold with the twenty two for no
reason, and he doesn't realize the danger

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he's putting everyone in with this garbage. So they make their way down.

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They get down to the Vietna.
Now they were looking and paranoid and saw

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nothing move right. However, at
that particular side of the Yetna River,

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it was about a three foot river
bank that you can see down to the

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edge. But you can't see that
three foot if it'd shielded. Stay tuned

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for more sasquatch out to sea.
We'll be right back after these messages.

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Unbeknounst to them, this thing had
dropped down to the river and crawled and

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was now in the trees over parallel. You know, just as they were

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getting down to the Utna River.
This thing didn't give a shit about the

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gunshot, actively intimidating them and following
them. Okay, not a good combination.

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Doesn't stir happiness, enjoyed friendship to
me. So the realization of what

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the hell's going on came when now
remember threads to the outside of them,

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you got Chris and then Doug,
so they make like a triangle shape if

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you were to look down, if
you're looking down at it, we got

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the tree line, Doug, Chris, Fred. Once they hear the noise

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and the grunt, they all turned
to their right into the tree line.

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And now on this tree line it's
more broken and open, so you have

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a stunned growth black spruce, and
then you some willows next to it,

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a little more sporadic growth versus the
denser on the opposite side, where they

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just let their trail when they recognize
that danger because they were just getting down

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to the river. This tree line
the way as it comes down the river.

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Understand, there's a distance of about
fifteen twenty feet between the river bay

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and where the tree line starts again. But you have all these little scrub

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alders and willows that line both sides
of everything around, and so they're oriented

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where off their right shoulder, like
at the apex of where they got to

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turn and start back up and find
another way across. But now this thing

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is pretty much in front of them, and it starts doing the pacing thing

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again. They turn around and take
the river bank back to cross those four

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rocks to get across the river.
So they're able to do that. He

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said, everything was a blur because
I asked them, Okay, you're telling

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me that it was off following you, paralleling you, but yet you were

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at the apex of the turn,
and then it started moving. He goes,

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I realized when we were coming down
it actually paralleled us because if we

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kept hearing stuff, and then it
came to a head when they got down

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to that trimming point. So I
was like, okay, that makes more

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sense. Now they backtracked and they
get across the rock. Now they still

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hear the movement right over there.
Now when they get across these rocks and

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they get up on the other side, they're feeling a sense of relief.

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Now they got a natural barrier a
little wider than that little creek, and

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they know they're on the right side
of the river to get to the cabin,

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and that was their motivation. So
now Fred with the pistol, he's

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standing on a river bank and he
had a false sense of security with this

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river dividing him. So this yahoo
puts around into the trees. He shot

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high, but from what Chris said, he had a look of, yeah,

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I'm gonna draw it out kind of
thing. He shoots high into the

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trees. That wasn't smart. Scream, loud scream, and in view from

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where they came across the tundra a
little further up the rizon and then came

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down this way and then came back
and then across the creek, they had

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an open view of that little wedge
shape. They first shot over to their

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right and it was down here behind
them. They ran across the tunder this

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way and came down the left side, so they had a view of this

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like wedd shaped alleyway going up the
rise. This thing scream broke some trees

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and stuff on its way out of
that tree line and ran across in front

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of them, going towards where the
whole shebang started further down river. This

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thing was actually leaving the area.
Smart Fred starts trying to pop shots at

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it as it's running because he just
sees it freaks up, it starts feathering

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it, right, dumb thing to
do. This thing immediately hits the tree

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line that it was right too,
because it was moving fast. Hits the

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tree line, you hear a bunch
of breaking and stuff, and they could

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see the tops of the black spruce
and some of the birch just just whipping

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down hard. So this thing was
smashing the shit down to the ground and

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they immediately turned to start running.
Now as they're running, they're yelling that

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you dumb ass. They're cursing Fred
out because Fred just start winging shots at

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this scene. It wasn't necessary.
They were in survival mode. List get

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out of here. After winging the
shots, they're running and they start hearing

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splashing in the river. Now Bred
just emptied the six rounds. Doug is

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in the lead, a good distance
ahead of Fred because he was an idiot

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and stood behind. He has a
twenty two animal, so he's got an

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empty gun. He's got a paperweight
right, and he's the last one in

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line, and he was the one
winging shots at this. Now they're hall

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ass and this particular part of the
trail was pretty well worn, and they

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knew it well. They've been going
back. They've been going on it forever,

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so they knew their way, and
they were hauling ask and they hear

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it paralleling them in the river.
Now where the cabin is on a bit

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of a rise. It's a single
room cabin. He said. It's approximately

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twelve by twenty on the dimensions of
this cabin, seven foot walls, cathedral

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like ceiling, just a shell basically
was so two by four in plywood box

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with little rollout mats on it.
Just a glorified shack for sleeping to go

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hunting. Nothing more. You don't
need more. They're all gassing to get

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here. Meanwhile, they're getting paralleled
bred is one in the rear and this

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thing is the splashing is passing down
the water at this particular part of the

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river, he said, was at
least three to four feet deep, and

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this thing was splashing through it like
it was a puddle. They're shook.

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They are shook, and they're motivated
with their running. They all make it

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back to that cabin. So as
they get in the door and shut the

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door. Bred in the rear has
a severe leg cramp. It's so cramped

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that Doug and Chris have to grab
him by the ankle and help his leg

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because it was trying to bend up
and lock up on him. That kind

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of cramp that would just suck.
So that they're tending to Fred, they

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hear splashing out in the river,
and then a moment later they hear something

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wap hit the door of this cabin. And when this thing hit the door,

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dawned on them. This isn't a
very very safe place right Immediately they

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let go of Bred's lag. He's
on his own with his cramp. Let's

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asshole his wingshots at this and that's
why we're here. They look out the

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window to see what the hell just
hit the cabin, and what it ended

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up being was this huge clump of
grass that was eroded overhang, and it

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was basically have you ever worked with
sod? It was similar to sod,

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but a big chunk with more dirt
and rocks stuck to the bottom and then

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the grass out the top. So
this huge thing had hit the door very

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hard. It must have weighed sixty
pounds this big chunk of earth that was

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chucked out the cabin, So now
they're looking for it. Now inside the

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cabin, they have a shotgun and
they have a couple other big boar rifles.

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Immediately they're getting the big boy guns
out. No More twenty two is

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for Fred, and so he gets
this cramp porked out and they're all looking

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out the windows. Now it's not
dark yet, but they know darkness is

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coming. I'm not trying to draw
this out. I'm trying to be thorough

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and get all these little nuances in
time goes by, and they're getting very

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uneasy because it's dead quiet, dead
quiet, and they don't want to stay.

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Now they have a little bit of
a ways to go before the trail

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that will lead a few miles to
where they had parked their rid to get

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out of there. If you got
something that big chasing you, you don't

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want to be on that kind of
journey. You don't even want to be

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on a ten foot journey, let
alone a couple miles through the Alaskan wilderness

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with this thing pissed off. So
they're looking at their options. We got

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food, we got sheltered, we
got ammo. Here were good. We'll

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hold out. If it keeps us
in here, someone will eventually come,

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but we can defend this place.
There was three windows into place, one

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on each of the walls, and
then there was a narrow window next to

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the doorway, and it was a
solid steel door, and they had some

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kind of beardatory nail boards and stuff
that they would put over the windows and

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on the door to keep bears from
breaking in and get tearing up their shit.

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They had all all that bareboard stuff
stacked in a neat way right outside

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the door against part of the windbreak
of the porch, and right where it

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particularly had to be was the stairway
down to the ground, and so when

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you went out you had to step
around all these bare boards. They decided,

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we got these guns, screw the
sing let's kill it. That's what

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they think. We're gonna kill it
and get the hell out of here,

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and then we'll get help and then
come back. Because it was big when

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they saw it moving, He said
he didn't want to guess the size,

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but he said it was massive,
massively tall. He guestimated because he only

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saw it in the water really well, when it was standing in the river

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and the water was just above its
knees, and he thinks that particular spot

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was at least four to five feet
deep where it was standing, and it

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was barely up just past its knees
of this creature at this particular point.

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It went from it through the clupp
of grass. They freak all that,

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they check it out. They're all
armed up. Moments later during their discussion,

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it was Doug looking out the narrow
window out the front door that looks

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down to the river when they saw
it standing in the water, and that's

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when they all went over and played
and took a look out the window.

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They saws up what they're dealing with. They said, we're gonna kill it.

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They go out and I'll bring up
the bare boards because it comes into

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play in just a moment. They
go out and there's a good gap in

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between these bare boards and the stairway
because it's thirty six inch wide stairway.

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They easily get by it. And
as they're sitting there going down discussing,

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well which direction it go because it
was no longer standing in the river.

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It was nowhere in sight. It
was just gone. So they're standing out

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there a moment. Now at this
point, it is starting to get to

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dusk and in the trees it's just
really dark shadows. But there's still plenty

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of daylight up in the sky and
you know, in the grass and stuff,

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but anything in the tree line is
damn near pitch black. So they

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figure out, okay, it must
have ran over the trees. Doug with

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the shotguns, wing some rounds over
to those trees. Let' see if we

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can get it to move and be
sure we don't shoot accidentally shoot each other.

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So they're standing shoulder to the shoulders
so they don't swing into each other's

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fire. Great plan, right,
He lets a couple shots off across the

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river. Boom, boom, not
a sound, not a sound, not

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00:30:14.480 --> 00:30:18.039
a sent They hear nothing. So
they decide maybe what we'll use one of

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the big boar rifles and wing a
shot a little further down the trees that

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way. Let's see if we can
coax it out. It came before we've

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gun shots. Let' see if we'll
do it again. Boom, shoots a

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round off. They hear something behind
them, something coming from behind the cabin.

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So they turn around immediately and they're
looking because the cabin's elevated, it's

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about a foot half in the front
elevated and it drops off a little bit,

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so it's up to about two and
a half three foot on the pilots

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of the back. So they could
bed down and look underneath the whole place.

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And they do that and they see
nothing. They see nothing that would

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have made the noise that smacked or
hit the cabin. So they figure,

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oh, it's throwing stuff like it
at the creek. It threw something and

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it landed on the cabin, and
that's what got our attention. Okay,

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00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:07.599
okay, this thing's soret So they, you know, they think they got

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to figure it out. It turned
around. They're looking for the direction this

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thing whatever was thrown, and they
hear that noise again. It they ignore

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it because they think they're being tricked. They think they're being tricked, that

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something's making that noise intentionally to distract
their attention that way while it does something

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in front of them. So they
want to be ready. They're not falling

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for it. They're not dumb,
so you know, they're doing their thing.

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They hear a screen across the river, just like they thought, right,

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oh yeah, yeah, okay,
it's right over there. Well,

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try to pinpoint it. Put another
big caliber rock around straight that direction,

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you're not gonna hit. It's going
to hit a tree, but should it

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00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:51.960
that direction? Let them know we
mean business. Right wings the shot they

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hear another noise behind them at the
cab. They're ignoring that noise at the

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cabin, ignoring it. We're not
followed for that crap. We know it's

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over here. Doug, who operated
the shotgun, had read a couple more

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rounds. Put back in that bad
boy. He decides, I'm done with

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00:32:08.119 --> 00:32:14.200
this the shotguns short range. I'll
go in sideway. He turns around to

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go just short distance to the stairs. Up the walkway. The bare boards

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were all turned nails facing out,
leaned up and stepped up in front of

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the door. This saying distracted them
because they were smart, went and turned

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the bare boards around, nail sticking
out to stop them from getting back into

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that freaking cabin. So when they
saw that, the realization was we're being

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fricking played. Guess what. They
didn't go back in the cab. They

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took their happy asses with the AMMO
they had and the guns they had going

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in the dark, and three soldiers
hiped out of there. They said they

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thought they sounded like they're being paralleled. A couple different times they would fire

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affle Vali as shot. Now they're
doing this. It's going in the darkness.

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They got no gear other than their
guns and a bunch of animal they

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do in their pockets to accost this
thing. And they're getting the hell out

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of dodge. It's accumulated about three
and a half miles to go from where

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00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:19.920
this particular cabin was, through the
muskeg in the trails the black spruce,

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on into higher ground, then lower
ground, then higher ground up into where

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they parked the truck troopers. They
did it, they stomped out. The

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main reason I'm going to share that
with you is one, it's holy crap.

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00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:37.400
The cunning turning the bear boards around, dude, that's genius. Keep

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them from being able to run back
in easily. Wow, just wow,

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What are you doing in the situation
like that? What can we make of

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00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:52.480
that? That's just on some other
level. That's like imitating the baby crying

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00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:57.119
l'aring my cousin Elizabeth. Though they're
going to prey on a woman's instinct and

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nature to lure them out. Dude, there's more going on with these things.

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00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:04.960
We know they're smart, we know
they're very smart. But I think

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they're smarter and just as cunning as
we are. They just go about it

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in a different way because we live
in a different world. Not have they

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00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:16.599
come out of a portal, no, the woods being the different world they're

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they're twenty four to seven. I'm
sure they've been around, who knows how

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00:34:21.079 --> 00:34:23.719
long they live, what they've seen? This thing new enough. I'm assuming

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00:34:23.760 --> 00:34:28.639
it was one distracted by one another
one did something. I don't know.

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They didn't see it, but they
heard the noises and they ignored it.

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00:34:32.320 --> 00:34:37.360
I tell you what, Chris,
Doug and Fred they will never ignore ay

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00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:40.880
noise behind them again. And I'm
not trying to make light of it.

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I'm just like, can you imagine
your escape is right there, you feel

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00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:50.639
your safeties right there, and lo
and behold, it's turned on you.

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00:34:50.760 --> 00:34:53.119
You got this this man made porcupine
and facing you to get in the door.

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00:34:53.599 --> 00:34:59.559
Oh jeez, man, Well they
still go there. This was just

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two three years ago, I think
he said, not very long ago.

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Be safe when you go, bro
and keep the bear boards somewhere else to

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where you don't get porcupined out of
your own dam of cabin. When you

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00:35:09.960 --> 00:35:13.920
got one of these things ticked off
at you because your buddy wants to wing

519
00:35:14.039 --> 00:35:16.079
shots at it. I'm not making
a light of it. What do you

520
00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:21.079
do with that? I'm sure these
guys will never look at bear boards the

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00:35:21.159 --> 00:35:23.760
same again. Anyway, Thanks for
listening. To be safe out there,

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00:35:23.800 --> 00:35:30.079
guys. We'll talk to you later. They say you don't gotta go home,

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00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:39.920
but you can't stay. I don't
want to be. We're all out.

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00:35:40.039 --> 00:36:08.480
Be ste joy this job, that
chime. Everything came right by prying

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00:36:08.639 --> 00:36:16.480
back. Joy for me, Joy
staying right. You come in right away,

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still step step step steps, do
knocking, do do do doss still

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state pass stasst us THESS

