1 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:18,760 Welcome back. Everyone's a new episode of Your Wrong with Molly Hemingwayne David Harsani. 2 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,039 Just as a reminder, if you'd like to email the show, please 3 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,679 do so at radio at the Federalist dot com. We love to hear from 4 00:00:24,719 --> 00:00:28,839 you. Thanks David. And before we get started, I actually wanted to 5 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:33,399 share some kind words that were shared with me yesterday from one of our readers 6 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:38,479 named Shane. He said, the Federalist is now more than simply an alternative 7 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:44,640 news source. It is an investigative and communications organization that exposes government corruption, 8 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:49,840 collusion, and threats to the liberties of citizens and to the ability of citizens 9 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:54,000 to continue to affect change through fair elections. 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We got quite the week. 19 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:38,120 A little bum that that guy didn't mention me personally. He did, he 20 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:42,040 mentioned all of us. I loved this note, So all right, nice 21 00:01:42,079 --> 00:01:46,400 got his head screwed on, right, Yeah, it's an interesting week. 22 00:01:46,439 --> 00:01:49,760 And just this morning, I think we need to talk about it. The 23 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:55,719 two presidential major presidential candidates agreed on a debate. The first one will be 24 00:01:55,760 --> 00:02:04,239 held I think it's June twenty seventh on CNNNNN. Well, it was funny 25 00:02:04,319 --> 00:02:10,039 because this morning Joe Biden released a video where a short video on X that 26 00:02:10,159 --> 00:02:15,360 had I think fifteen cuts in fifty five seconds of speaking like he you know, 27 00:02:15,439 --> 00:02:19,719 it was just it's terrible, but he, you know, challenge says, 28 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,319 you know Donald Trump' scared to debate you know anytime, pal, I 29 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:27,159 think, he says, and then Trump agreed to it in like five seconds. 30 00:02:27,439 --> 00:02:30,159 So I have worked at Fox for like seven or eight years, and 31 00:02:30,199 --> 00:02:35,719 so I did not overlap with Roger Ayles. But people, you know always 32 00:02:35,759 --> 00:02:38,840 like share some of his tips and things because he was like this great newsman 33 00:02:38,319 --> 00:02:42,560 and one of the things he would do is just look at TV with the 34 00:02:42,599 --> 00:02:46,759 sound off and just look at what things looked like, and you know, 35 00:02:47,159 --> 00:02:52,479 it just crushes me, like, I will work really hard on saying something 36 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,520 very effective, and like ninety nine percent of the commentary will be like I 37 00:02:55,560 --> 00:03:00,680 loved your shoes or your hair and makeup looked great today. And you're thinking, 38 00:03:00,199 --> 00:03:05,400 I'm fighting back with these like narrative busting words and everyone else is like 39 00:03:05,439 --> 00:03:10,039 that looked good. But so I'm mentioning that because I didn't listen to the 40 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:14,280 Joe Biden video. I just saw it like as I was scrolling on my 41 00:03:14,479 --> 00:03:20,319 Twitter, and it looked horrific, Like he looked so angry, the veins 42 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,879 were like bulging from his head and then yeah, it was very jumpy, 43 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:27,599 like you could tell they couldn't they had a piece together all these different segments, 44 00:03:27,599 --> 00:03:30,360 and I was like, this is not going well for Joe Biden. 45 00:03:30,439 --> 00:03:34,520 Well, we'll talk about pulling a little later, I think, but we 46 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:38,879 should mention it's typically the person who's behind in polls who's like clamoring to debate 47 00:03:39,039 --> 00:03:43,199 because that's a way they believe to, you know, make up ground, 48 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,680 and it's clear that Joe Biden's the one who needs to make up ground. 49 00:03:46,719 --> 00:03:50,360 I think, like I'll get into more of that later. I don't know 50 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,639 that, you know, I don't trust everything those poles tell me. But 51 00:03:53,479 --> 00:03:57,639 here's a question for you play the part of Donald Trump. Why did he 52 00:03:57,719 --> 00:04:00,000 agree to a debate so quickly? And why on CNN? And by the 53 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,120 way, there are tons of stipulations attached to this. I think there's not 54 00:04:03,159 --> 00:04:05,639 going to be an audience. You know, we'll go through that as well. 55 00:04:05,639 --> 00:04:11,439 But why do you think he does that? I think that Donald Trump 56 00:04:12,439 --> 00:04:15,879 thinks, or maybe even knows, that he can handle any debate under any 57 00:04:15,879 --> 00:04:21,480 circumstances, and that he also is probably suspicious about whether Joe Biden will actually 58 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:27,560 be able to carry through with this. There's like a huge exception to that. 59 00:04:27,639 --> 00:04:31,680 I think the first debate of the twenty twenty election was his worst performance 60 00:04:31,759 --> 00:04:36,519 ever. Not a good performance for Biden, an absolutely horrific performance for whoever 61 00:04:36,639 --> 00:04:41,519 the moderator was. I don't oh gosh, I hope it might have been, 62 00:04:42,199 --> 00:04:45,800 might have been Chris Wallace. Not oh boy, not a good debate, 63 00:04:46,319 --> 00:04:49,079 but not a good debate for anyone, So like I'm not denying that, 64 00:04:49,319 --> 00:04:54,519 but like, in general, I think he feels confident in his abilities, 65 00:04:54,560 --> 00:05:01,600 and he also worries that Biden will back down. Maybe expectations are so 66 00:05:01,759 --> 00:05:05,639 low that sometimes I have to admit maybe for both, even though I think 67 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:10,879 Donald Trump is an underrated debater in a way, but you think that Donald 68 00:05:10,879 --> 00:05:14,879 Trump would try to like lower expectations. But here's his quote. I think 69 00:05:14,879 --> 00:05:18,319 from his truth social or whatever is Joe Biden is the worst all caps debater 70 00:05:18,399 --> 00:05:26,720 I have ever faced. It's just so funny, But I do worry about 71 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:31,480 Joe Biden's cognitive decline, not just in terms of the jump cuts in his 72 00:05:31,639 --> 00:05:34,759 video announcement that he was willing to debate, like that's some big, great 73 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:40,360 thing, but also that he cannot have an audience, and you know, 74 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:46,680 the State of the Union includes an audience and corporate media and other Democrats said 75 00:05:46,759 --> 00:05:51,160 his State of the Union was amazing, and it was very disorienting for me, 76 00:05:51,399 --> 00:05:54,560 like as a pundit to be talking. I was like, I think 77 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,439 this was pretty awful. Everyone else was like that was that was a masterclass. 78 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,680 And he seemed like he was hopped up on goofy pills. And then 79 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,879 of course, like a few days later, the polling came out and they 80 00:06:04,879 --> 00:06:08,920 did not agree with the corporate media that that had been a good performance. 81 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:14,120 But if you go back and, like Zapruder, the actual state of the 82 00:06:14,199 --> 00:06:18,360 Union, his biggest points of struggle seemed to be when people were shouting things 83 00:06:18,439 --> 00:06:23,879 out or when there was any kind of like audience disruption that was not just 84 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:28,600 straight encouragement applause. And so I think he can't have an audience because his 85 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:32,040 cognitive decline is so extensive that he needs he needs to just you know, 86 00:06:32,079 --> 00:06:36,480 he can have a corporate media type like Caitlin Collins to help him or Jake 87 00:06:36,519 --> 00:06:40,480 Tapper, you know, someone who will help him along and he can take 88 00:06:40,519 --> 00:06:47,600 on Trump maybe, but it can't take on complications like an audience. I 89 00:06:48,319 --> 00:06:55,120 my view of this is the Trump is fine. I think it's fine that 90 00:06:55,199 --> 00:06:59,560 he goes on CNN and debates. I mean, because he's at his best 91 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,720 when he's sort of cornered and people are attacking him. I feel like, 92 00:07:02,759 --> 00:07:08,560 and you know the thing here though, is that there are other stipulations. 93 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,279 You know, there's no RFK Junior now I'm not a fan at all, 94 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,439 but he, according to Poles, has quite a bit of support, even 95 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:19,360 you know, some from the right as well, not just the left. 96 00:07:20,639 --> 00:07:27,240 And the debate also does not allow any Trump Trump remarks after Biden answers and 97 00:07:27,279 --> 00:07:30,519 vice versa, which I think limits the kind of back and forth that actually 98 00:07:30,519 --> 00:07:36,079 makes a debate more interesting than the canned responses these people usually have. And 99 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,879 I will just say, here's the problem that I do have with CNN is 100 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,319 that they're going to ask idiotic questions that no one cares about. Like typically 101 00:07:44,439 --> 00:07:48,720 you have when you have politicians asking each other questions and challenging each other, 102 00:07:48,759 --> 00:07:53,800 they get to the heart of what actually voters care about more than what Jake 103 00:07:53,839 --> 00:07:57,079 Tapper is going to ask about, like the you know, what are you 104 00:07:57,079 --> 00:08:01,279 going to do to save democracy? Or whatever kind of you know framing that 105 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:05,839 they put on question. So I don't know, I feel like that's not 106 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,439 great for Trump, but in general, having basically whoever's going to moderate be 107 00:08:09,519 --> 00:08:13,480 against Trump and Joe Biden is good for Donald Trump. Does that make sense? 108 00:08:13,439 --> 00:08:20,079 Yeah? I think he. I think having a cartoonish organization like CNN 109 00:08:20,199 --> 00:08:24,519 host is actually helpful to Trump. He can easily remind people these are the 110 00:08:24,519 --> 00:08:30,319 people who ran the Russia collusion lie. They ran the Cat Cavanaugh rapesmear like 111 00:08:30,439 --> 00:08:33,639 you can just kind of go through all of the hoaxes and lies that they've 112 00:08:33,639 --> 00:08:39,840 done and how much the reputation has suffered as a result from it. I 113 00:08:39,879 --> 00:08:46,000 think having the media highlighted as an enemy is easier when it's like CNN or 114 00:08:46,639 --> 00:08:54,879 NBC than even like CBS. Not that CBS is really much better, so 115 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,440 we'll see, but I mean, but I mean, you're right, CNN 116 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:03,320 has been behind a lot or one of the diving organizations or outlets, behind 117 00:09:03,399 --> 00:09:09,799 a lot of the of the worst abdications of journalism recently. Kavanaugh comes to 118 00:09:09,799 --> 00:09:13,519 mind, and definitely the Russia collusion hope, So those you know, it's 119 00:09:13,519 --> 00:09:16,360 something he should remind them of. But Trump is not really disciplined in that 120 00:09:16,399 --> 00:09:20,279 way. Yeah, I don't know. You know, Biden will have a 121 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:26,320 lot of advantages. He's whether it's his cognitive decline or lying like he's kind 122 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:31,519 of an expert in both of those things. He'll have the media assistance. 123 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:37,440 In fact, In fact, I would sort of assume that Donald Trump's biggest 124 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:43,399 debate opponent will be whoever they have quote unquote moderate the debate on behalf of 125 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:48,840 Democrats. But I don't know, it's like they never The other day, 126 00:09:48,879 --> 00:09:52,799 Joe Biden said that when he came into office, inflation was at nine percent, 127 00:09:52,799 --> 00:09:54,519 which is just a complete lies. One point four percent, right, 128 00:09:56,120 --> 00:10:00,559 Not a single fact checker in any one of these major outlets just thought worth 129 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:03,919 fact checking that. So he'll say this at the debate and no one, 130 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,360 you know, no one's going to say anything. Donald Trump's going to have 131 00:10:07,399 --> 00:10:09,159 to do all the heavy lifting on that. Oh. I think that also 132 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:15,679 they should say, like there will be no partisan fact checking by left wing 133 00:10:15,759 --> 00:10:18,480 media. You know, you see this, you see this, No matter 134 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,360 who is moderating, they'll be like, mister president, it's not true, 135 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:26,080 or mister former president, it's not true that the Biden family business does business 136 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:30,440 with Red China. And it's like, yes, it is true, So 137 00:10:30,519 --> 00:10:33,879 stop lying on behalf of your favorite candidate. So I think there's got to 138 00:10:33,919 --> 00:10:37,919 be some kind of restriction on there. Also. I'm just you know, 139 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:43,399 I just don't think it's very democratic to not have a debate audience. So 140 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:48,159 I feel like that's one thing that Americans should fight for, is to have 141 00:10:48,519 --> 00:10:52,559 a debate in front of an audience. Also not democratic. And I'm not 142 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:58,960 saying this for like, I actually think that this is something that would be 143 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:05,759 harmful to possibly both major party nominees or potential nominees. But they should let 144 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:11,200 RFK Junior debate. I think he's pulling well enough that he should at least 145 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:16,399 have an opportunity to be on that stage. I'm sure neither Biden nor Trump 146 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:20,679 want it, but it's kind of hard for all these corporate media left wingers 147 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:26,320 to claim that they're doing their propaganda on behalf of democracy when they're not advocating 148 00:11:26,399 --> 00:11:28,679 for this third party candidate to be allowed on stage. And I know they 149 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,679 don't want him on stage because they think he's going to hurt Biden. He 150 00:11:31,799 --> 00:11:35,519 might hurt Biden, he might hurt Trump, he might hurt both of them. 151 00:11:35,879 --> 00:11:39,200 But if you've got that much support, I think you have a right 152 00:11:39,279 --> 00:11:43,840 to be on stage. I'm always I always have this internal debate about whether 153 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:48,039 these debates mean anything or important, because I keep hearing out it's good for 154 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,759 American good for democracy. I'm pretty skeptical. You know, it's usually kind 155 00:11:50,759 --> 00:11:56,639 of a circus. I don't know that people learn anything, But you know, 156 00:11:56,799 --> 00:12:01,919 why not, I guess this position like why not and why not have 157 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:03,879 a you know, RFK Junior there. I mean, I think it would 158 00:12:03,919 --> 00:12:09,679 expose him as kind of a creepy left winger frankly, but you know a 159 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:11,039 lot of people. He appeals to a lot of people in this country. 160 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:16,799 Yep. So let's talk about polling a little bit. Sorry, yeah, 161 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,200 yeah, yeah, you have more Yeah. Me being like generally positive toward 162 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:28,039 any Republican appearing on a debate stage with left wing media does not mean that 163 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:33,720 we shouldn't really mock the idea that CNN has any right to host any debate. 164 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,120 And it would have been a lot easier to make this argument had the 165 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:43,039 RNC not made the CNN one of its debate partners, I think during the 166 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:48,720 twenty twenty four primaries. But these are people who are professional liars and propagandists. 167 00:12:48,919 --> 00:12:52,519 They have done so much damage to the country. They should not be 168 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:58,679 rewarded with like a prime time debate spot that will get them a lot of 169 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:05,799 ad revenue and that will kind of serve to functionally legitimize them as not the 170 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:11,159 propagandist that they are. And you know that's an issue, Well, I 171 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:16,080 mean CNN has that aside from all the usual faces, it has that alleged 172 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,639 bogus fact checker Dale. I forget what his name is, do you know? 173 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:24,279 Yeah, So, I mean it's just a joke. No, they 174 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:30,039 employed people who are mentally unwell I think, I mean they are, and 175 00:13:30,159 --> 00:13:35,399 people who have to know that they're spreading propaganda, and or if they don't, 176 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:41,000 that's possibly even worse. And it's an institutional culture of lying for the 177 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:46,279 benefit of the Democrat Party. And they have, you know, they keep 178 00:13:46,279 --> 00:13:52,279 on having Adam Schiffon after they spent years highlighting him claiming he had secret evidence 179 00:13:52,279 --> 00:13:56,639 of collusion with Russia that enabled Trump to steal the twenty sixteen election. And 180 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:00,320 then they have the audacity to have Jake Tapper come out and set talk about 181 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:05,240 big lies, like we got some big lies for you, Jake. So 182 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:09,799 they need to be treated like the enemy that they are. I would trust 183 00:14:09,279 --> 00:14:15,960 no Republican to do that, with the possible exception of Donald Trump, and 184 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:20,720 so other Republicans need to kind of understand they cannot they cannot care about trying 185 00:14:20,759 --> 00:14:24,200 to please CNN. They need to go on CNN to punch it in its 186 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:30,679 face. Metaphorically as with all other left wing corporate media. Yeah, I 187 00:14:30,679 --> 00:14:33,000 have no product. You know, I think we've talked about this before, 188 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,000 but I have no problem with Republicans going on these stations, but they need 189 00:14:35,039 --> 00:14:39,080 to take a really aggressive form. Yeah. Wait, I have an idea 190 00:14:39,519 --> 00:14:45,919 or a debate rule. No ear pieces or the moderators. No earpieces for 191 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:50,000 anyone. Okay, the candidates don't get earpieces where they're fed what to say, 192 00:14:50,039 --> 00:14:54,559 and neither do the moderators. No ear pieces for moderators. That is 193 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:58,720 like a ridiculous and it would be different if quote unquote moderators actually were moderating 194 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:03,240 debate as opposed to, you know, putting a brick on the accelerator for 195 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:07,440 the Democrats. But since they are, and since that's what they do, 196 00:15:07,799 --> 00:15:11,600 they should have no ear pieces for moderators. You will not be fed, 197 00:15:11,919 --> 00:15:16,799 you know, Caitlin Collins won't be sitting there and being told by her producer, 198 00:15:16,279 --> 00:15:20,639 now say this or here's a fact that we just like dug up to 199 00:15:20,639 --> 00:15:24,120 make the Republican look bad. That is unfair, it's ridiculous, and they've 200 00:15:24,159 --> 00:15:28,639 lost they've lost the opportunity to be treated like anything other than Democrat partisans, 201 00:15:28,799 --> 00:15:35,120 So no ear pieces for any Democrats or Republicans on stage, most especially the 202 00:15:35,159 --> 00:15:39,440 moderators. I like that. I like that rule. Good one. We 203 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:43,200 should come up, but you should write a piece giving your rules for debates. 204 00:15:43,639 --> 00:15:46,879 I think that it suggest on television this morning that Joe Rogan be the 205 00:15:46,879 --> 00:15:50,720 moderator of a presidential debate. I'm not sure if that was a good thing 206 00:15:50,759 --> 00:15:52,799 to say. That's going to ask about UFO? Is there something though so 207 00:15:52,919 --> 00:15:56,600 much? I think that would be great. I think it would be like 208 00:15:58,039 --> 00:16:02,080 we're entertaining, for sure. Yeah, and not just entertaining, but more 209 00:16:02,279 --> 00:16:07,080 illuminating. I think how people respond to things, you know, to a 210 00:16:07,159 --> 00:16:11,679 genuinely curious moderator would be so much more interesting than how they respond to professional 211 00:16:11,679 --> 00:16:18,840 propagandists. Just would be I always think that the best forum would be allowing 212 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:22,679 the candidates to ask each other questions rather than honor. Yeah, yeah, 213 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:29,200 Joe, why is your business in bed with the corrupt Chinese Communist Party? 214 00:16:29,279 --> 00:16:33,279 Joe tell us? Now? Pretty good? Pretty good? I like it. 215 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:40,559 I can't. I'm terrible impressions. Don't let what you've built up over 216 00:16:40,679 --> 00:16:45,519 decades simply vanish The washed out on Wall Street podcast with Chris Markowski. 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One last thing on debates, for 224 00:17:12,599 --> 00:17:15,279 me, at least, is something I was thinking about before I forgot to 225 00:17:15,279 --> 00:17:19,599 mention, is that when I was young and like Reagan debated or whatever, 226 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,519 because I'm old, it mattered more because there wasn't this twenty four to seven 227 00:17:23,559 --> 00:17:29,200 news cycle where everyone saw the candidates speaking all the time and everyone knew what 228 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,160 they were going to say, and you know, it was just this constant 229 00:17:32,279 --> 00:17:36,720 barrage of talking points where you actually got to see the candidates, you know, 230 00:17:37,839 --> 00:17:40,640 up against someone who disagreed with them. It was a rare occurrence, 231 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,960 so I think they mattered more now I don't think they matter that much, 232 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:48,599 though they are entertaining usually, especially if Donald Trump's again, It just the 233 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:53,480 country cannot survive another one of those awful, awful whatever that first debate was 234 00:17:55,039 --> 00:17:59,279 last time everybody was bad? That was Wallace? Right? Was that the 235 00:17:59,319 --> 00:18:03,880 first one? Forget? I think so? Yeah, because he also he 236 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:08,559 also did the special in twenty sixteen where he asked Donald Trump if Donald Trump 237 00:18:08,599 --> 00:18:14,960 would accept the election if he lost, and failed to ask Hillary Clinton, 238 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:18,880 who immediately responded to losing the election by running the Russia collusion line that, 239 00:18:19,079 --> 00:18:22,640 like so destabilized the country and may have put us on a path to complete 240 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:30,160 destruction. So so let's talk a little bit about only Oh wait, I 241 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,720 think, yeah, yeah, you have more one last thing that reminds me 242 00:18:32,759 --> 00:18:36,440 to keep going as long as you want, Like case, I feel like 243 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:40,079 you're done, and then I really upset about debates. But my favorite thing 244 00:18:40,079 --> 00:18:45,119 that Ron DeSantis did during the Republican primary was after the eighth time or whatever 245 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,279 of different people being like, raise your hand if you would do this gotcha 246 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:52,359 question, he was like, I'm not a child, Stop telling me to 247 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:56,000 raise my hand. And I was like, thank you. I cannot stand 248 00:18:56,079 --> 00:19:00,279 the raise your hand if you would this or that. It's like, let's 249 00:19:00,319 --> 00:19:06,440 be more adult like and like have an actual conversation or debate where people you 250 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:11,000 know have to like communicate in ways that are not like you're a kindergartener. 251 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:15,519 Yeah, especially because the questions are usually you know, setups and of unfair 252 00:19:17,559 --> 00:19:19,839 or will you accept the election? You know will maybe maybe not. I 253 00:19:19,839 --> 00:19:22,920 don't know what happened. I mean, even like I keep on theking this 254 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,480 one during the Democrat primary in twenty twenty where it was like, would you 255 00:19:26,599 --> 00:19:33,440 support free healthcare for illegal aliens? And oddly enough, I think everyone raised 256 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,799 their hand in it. I guess it's like good information to have, but 257 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,759 I never quite I felt like you it could have been more interesting to find 258 00:19:40,799 --> 00:19:47,319 out why they think illegal aliens should be getting taxpayer funded healthcare than that they 259 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:51,000 do. I don't know. No, I agree. I hate that. 260 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:55,079 I hate that it's childish. Kyle, Okay, I'm going to talk about 261 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:59,920 polls now. Oh well, I think just a reminder of the best moment 262 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:06,319 in recent history, which is when everyone's like kind of shocked that Donald Trump 263 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:10,880 is even doing well enough to be on a debate stage in twenty sixteen, 264 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,960 and yet he is like he's he's leading in the polls and everything, and 265 00:20:15,039 --> 00:20:18,240 that moment where Megan Kelly, who's like a very smart and tough cookie, 266 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:26,440 asks the question about like Donald Trump being mean towards certain women, and he 267 00:20:26,559 --> 00:20:32,400 responds with the only Rosie O'Donnell. Do you remember that big yeah? Oh 268 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:33,640 my gosh, David, You've got to go back and watch it because it's 269 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:37,799 absolutely amazing. So she asks this question and he's like only Rosie O'Donnell, 270 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,319 and she's like, no, that's actually not true, and she does her 271 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:45,160 like litany of other times he's been rude to women, and he's like, 272 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:49,880 yeah, I actually think the country's got major problems and we're wasting time talking 273 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:53,880 about stuff like this and political correctness is destroying the country. And I just 274 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,599 remember it because it was kind of the moment when I was like, oh, 275 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:00,079 he not only did he get out of that, he got out of 276 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,079 that with a really important like everybody, let's grow up and start dealing with 277 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:07,839 you know, for instance, China and other big issues that people actually care 278 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:15,559 about instead of these questions about you know that don't really matter. I had 279 00:21:15,599 --> 00:21:18,240 a theory about debating Donald Trump back then that I think holds up and it 280 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,960 was you'll remember they didn't know how to deal with him, right, So 281 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:26,680 Marco Rubio was there, Ram Paul, etc. And he was just dunking 282 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,039 on them left and right, and it was kind of funny. So then 283 00:21:30,079 --> 00:21:32,240 all of a sudden they were like, Marco Rubio is going to do the 284 00:21:32,279 --> 00:21:34,240 same thing to him and dunk on him. And you know, it's like 285 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,559 we've talked about this, where you go on a show with really legitimately funny 286 00:21:37,559 --> 00:21:41,519 people, you should not try to be funny also because you just look ridiculous. 287 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,880 And that's what Marco Rubio looked like. But I likened it too. 288 00:21:45,039 --> 00:21:49,359 Rocky three, when Thunderlips the wrestler fights Rocky in the beginning, it's like 289 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:53,160 Thunderlips doesn't have the same rules you have. Rocky only knows boxing rules, 290 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:57,599 Marco Ruby only understands the rules of politics that it's been taught. But Thunderlips 291 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:02,480 picks up Rocky and just throw out at the ring and thunder lives in this 292 00:22:02,519 --> 00:22:07,839 situation. Is is Donald Trump? I think things have changed since twenty sixteen. 293 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,720 I think more people actually act like Donald Trump, like you know, 294 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,119 Joe Biden, you know, the serious people are back in charge. And 295 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,039 you see him on this video going Anytime Pal, you know, like he's 296 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:21,359 trying to out Trump Trump basically, and I don't think it works for them, 297 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,160 but we'll see what happens. Like the Shane Gillis thing that reminds me 298 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:30,839 of that President Biden is the only president that you could punch assassinate. Like 299 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,279 everyone else you have to shoot, but that one you could just punch assassinate 300 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,799 it. He would not handle a punch. Well, I can't. I 301 00:22:37,839 --> 00:22:40,880 wish it never works if you can't do the Trump impression. But he was 302 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,759 talking about how Trump, even if they tried to assassinate him, they chewed 303 00:22:42,799 --> 00:22:49,079 him and they'd be like, you're gay. You're both gay, all right. 304 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,720 Shane goes he's a new show by the way, called Tires. Oh. 305 00:22:52,759 --> 00:22:56,680 I will check that out because I find him very funny. I did 306 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:00,839 want to say that I also am confused at how you can have debates between 307 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:04,480 Biden and Trump before they've become the actual nominees of their back. That's another 308 00:23:04,519 --> 00:23:08,119 thing I wanted to say, Why do you agree to a debate so early 309 00:23:08,279 --> 00:23:12,400 where it maybe won't even make that much of a difference, or maybe we're 310 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,559 being silly and it's like, of course, now that we start voting in 311 00:23:15,839 --> 00:23:21,599 July, you should have a debate in June because Democrats have so weakened election 312 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,319 integrity that people are starting to get their ballots like literally months ahead of the 313 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,359 election. So that was one of the problems in twenty twenty is that they 314 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:32,359 held debates after millions of people have voted. Not good. Well, that's 315 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,640 a good point. It's election season, not really election day anymore, so 316 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:41,400 I guess it makes some sense. Though I would only have agreed to an 317 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,279 early debate if I knew that I could have a late debate as well. 318 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:45,839 Do you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I feel like it should have 319 00:23:45,839 --> 00:23:49,680 been an agreement for three. First of all, Joe Biden only wants to 320 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:53,960 do two. I think. Usually it's three, right, Yeah, usually 321 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,880 you do three, at least three, I think. And last time they 322 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,640 did two. They dropped the foreign policy debate because Donald Trump. Those one 323 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:06,079 of their arguments of like The Atlantic and other propaganda outlets was that Donald Trump 324 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:10,400 was bad for foreign policy and Joe Biden would be fantastic. But now I 325 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:15,319 really hope that both debates cover foreign policy, because I know, like not 326 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,839 everybody cares about foreign policy as much as I do, but the track record 327 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:23,559 disparities here are shocking and amazing and should be highlighted. I think blink and 328 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,799 one of those guys said the other day that, yeah, he feels like 329 00:24:26,839 --> 00:24:29,920 the world is in a better place now that Joe Biden is president. It's 330 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,519 just like mind boggling that you could even see he doesn't believe that. I 331 00:24:33,559 --> 00:24:38,079 don't even understand how Joe Biden's going to make the argument that the foreign policy 332 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,480 is in a better place today than it was then. I don't even know 333 00:24:41,519 --> 00:24:45,480 how you can lie your way into a conversation about that. Is the Middle 334 00:24:45,519 --> 00:24:51,279 East better? Is Europe better? What is better? I think that the 335 00:24:51,319 --> 00:24:56,440 military industrial complex might be better, Like, obviously the national security of this 336 00:24:56,559 --> 00:25:03,759 country is it's not healthy. We're not in a good place. But if 337 00:25:04,559 --> 00:25:11,119 I think there's an argument that the permanent d C is feeling very happy with 338 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:17,079 Biden's foreign policy, they feel like there's money to be made or even like 339 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:21,319 power to hold, and that they're yeah, I think they're very happy, 340 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:26,200 so that in fact, it might be disorienting for a Democrat or other operative 341 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:27,880 in DC. To hear you say that, they'd be like, of course 342 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:33,160 things are better. Things were bad when we were telling Europe to handle more 343 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:37,079 of their defense, or when we were pivoting away from all of these institutions 344 00:25:37,079 --> 00:25:41,319 that we had built up carefully to funnel money to our children for generational wealth, 345 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:47,400 to pivot from that to China, Like that wasn't good for d C. 346 00:25:47,799 --> 00:25:51,200 It was good for America. It's good for Americans, but it's not 347 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,440 good for DC. So he'll be able to make that argument. You know, 348 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,359 I debate people on Israel. You know, I debate people on Israel, 349 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:00,519 and I'll say I'll just point out the facts, and they'll say, 350 00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:03,759 actually, you're wrong. Joe Biden is the greatest defender of Israel in American 351 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,960 history, And so it's like a post truth world where no matter what you 352 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,240 say, they'll just say the opposite, and I think they sometimes believe what 353 00:26:11,279 --> 00:26:15,640 they're saying actually, So it just gets very confusing and just slightly off topic. 354 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:19,559 Anecdotally, I will say that this whole Israel thing and Joe Biden's support 355 00:26:19,559 --> 00:26:23,279 of Hamas functional support of Hamas and stuff. I've had a lot of people 356 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,599 I know who are sort of left leaning people or Democrats or folks who don't 357 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:32,079 like Donald Trump. Tell me that that is kind of the they become never 358 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,319 Biden. I'm not sure they're going to vol vote for Trump, and who 359 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,319 knows what happens in the next few months. But you know, there are 360 00:26:37,319 --> 00:26:42,079 a lot of people because of foreign policy who I know who have kind of 361 00:26:42,759 --> 00:26:48,319 changed their mind about Biden and Democrats. So we'll see how that goes. 362 00:26:48,839 --> 00:26:52,680 We'll see if that is reflected in the polling, which we need to talk 363 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,160 about. Are we ready to do that? We are, sorry, I 364 00:26:55,279 --> 00:26:57,359 promise you we can go to that now. Hey, this is why we're 365 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,880 here. We want to hear you. Do you notice getting an uptick in 366 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,000 mail from people who are like, you should do this podcast every day? 367 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,279 Yeah, maybe we could be more efficient about it if we did it, 368 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,920 like, maybe not every day, but maybe twice a week. I'm not 369 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,279 sure this is so weird conversation for us to be having on air, but 370 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,440 I will say that, yeah, I think maybe if we had shorter ones, 371 00:27:18,599 --> 00:27:22,200 more times a week, you know, But I have to say, 372 00:27:22,279 --> 00:27:25,640 you know, at least one of us has an incredibly busy schedule, so 373 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:30,960 it's difficult to plan. But yeah, okay, every day sounds like a 374 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,319 lot of work. I'd be willing to do it, of course, but 375 00:27:34,519 --> 00:27:38,119 I have to be shorter ten minute podcasts. Okay, moving on though. 376 00:27:40,279 --> 00:27:44,160 That's how it works internally. We should just pops up with an idea and 377 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:49,440 we're like, oh, scrambling, that's just kidding. What was I talking 378 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:56,319 about? Oh? So the polling now tons of poles. Not every poll, 379 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,880 but tons of poles now, I mean, I think it's it's just 380 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,359 there's overwhelming evidence that Joe Biden's in trouble. You know, you're not just 381 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,160 national polls, which mean nothing to me, but statewide polls in swing in 382 00:28:08,319 --> 00:28:17,039 you know, purplish swing states Michigan, Pennsylvania, Arizona, Georgia, Virginia 383 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:22,680 have Trump sometimes considerably ahead, but mostly it's still close. I would say, 384 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:26,759 but but you know, there are some underlying numbers that I find somewhat 385 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,759 suspect. Tell me if you agree with this. Basically, one of these 386 00:28:30,759 --> 00:28:33,519 polls, I'm sorry, I forget which polls, but one of the New 387 00:28:33,599 --> 00:28:37,039 York Times, Sienna something like that. I think it was a New York 388 00:28:37,039 --> 00:28:41,559 Time whatever, New York Times polling because they partner with someone, but they 389 00:28:41,599 --> 00:28:44,640 had young voters, you know, like fifty to fifty. I find that 390 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:52,440 pretty difficult to believe. Do you think that I'm being unduly skeptical. I 391 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,920 don't know what to say, because I'm kind of a pole skeptic in general, 392 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:04,240 poles have a problem of historically undercounty Republicans. Is one reason why I 393 00:29:04,279 --> 00:29:08,279 tend to be skeptical polls. Another reason is that I don't I think that, 394 00:29:08,359 --> 00:29:15,000 even in so far as polls accurately measure public opinion, public opinion is 395 00:29:15,119 --> 00:29:18,960 no longer the way that elections are won or lost. So if you look, 396 00:29:19,039 --> 00:29:23,200 for instance, in the midterms last year, the polling was pretty accurate, 397 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,240 and if we were running elections like we ran elections in the eighties, 398 00:29:27,519 --> 00:29:33,359 it would have been an unbelievable landslide for Republicans. But Democrats are smart enough 399 00:29:33,359 --> 00:29:40,759 to understand that if you traffic ballots from low information potential voters, people who 400 00:29:40,839 --> 00:29:44,319 may not know there's an election going on, or who the candidates are, 401 00:29:45,839 --> 00:29:48,200 whether they're alive or you know, like, you can just get ballots to 402 00:29:48,279 --> 00:29:53,079 addresses and get those ballots back to the ballot box, and that's how you 403 00:29:53,119 --> 00:29:59,119 win elections. So the approval ratings that Joe Biden has right now should be 404 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:06,559 leading to a nineteen eighty style blowout like we saw with Reagan. It won't 405 00:30:06,759 --> 00:30:11,039 because of these ballot traffic operations. But that's a little different than the particulars 406 00:30:11,079 --> 00:30:15,160 of whether young people are fifty to fifty. I think part of the reason 407 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,599 why it could show fifty to fifty is a general lack of support for either 408 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,279 candidate. So I absolutely believe young people do not like Joe Biden, and 409 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,599 why would they. Yeah, again, anecdotally, I know some young people 410 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,720 who are attached to my family and they view Biden sort of as a clownish 411 00:30:30,759 --> 00:30:33,440 boomer, you know, not anyone serious. There's none of that idealism you 412 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,079 saw with Obama or even you know, the idealism you see with Trump. 413 00:30:37,079 --> 00:30:40,319 So I think that hurts them as well, with young people who are not 414 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,640 typically that interested in politics are voting anyway. And then on top of it, 415 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,559 you have this, you know, stuff going on in Israel, and 416 00:30:47,599 --> 00:30:52,880 I think that even the people who are Prohamas are chanting genocide. Joe. 417 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,319 I don't think that hurts Donald Trump. They were never going to vote for 418 00:30:55,319 --> 00:30:59,680 Donald Trump, but it might actually hurt Biden on the margins, I think, 419 00:31:00,279 --> 00:31:03,680 But I just wanted to go over some other numbers. I think we're 420 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:08,720 pretty interesting. And that's so. It's a New York Times Siena College poll, 421 00:31:08,759 --> 00:31:15,319 and one of the main differences from now today from like twenty sixteen and 422 00:31:15,359 --> 00:31:19,880 even twenty twenty is black and Hispanic young black and Hispanic voters, who especially 423 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:26,400 many of the Latino voters are working class voters. So you know, they 424 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,799 don't care about student loan forgiveness. They care about inflation, I'm assuming, 425 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:36,119 and high interest rates that do not allow you to buy a home, for 426 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:41,200 instance, and stuff like that. Yeah. I mean, I just feel 427 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,880 like we have a really weird situation where everybody kind of knows what the economy 428 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:51,839 was like under Trump. In fact, they know exactly what it was like 429 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:56,480 prior to the COVID pandemic being unleashed, and then they know what it's been 430 00:31:56,599 --> 00:32:01,599 like under Biden, and there's really no comparison. And people in DC might 431 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:06,519 wish that people were voting for all sorts of arcane reasons, but the economy 432 00:32:06,599 --> 00:32:08,880 is actually a big reason why people choose the candidate of their choice, and 433 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:15,039 there's no comparison, Like the media are doing this thing where they're like things 434 00:32:15,039 --> 00:32:17,799 are great economically under Biden, and then they get upset that people aren't believing 435 00:32:17,839 --> 00:32:21,960 it. But it's just hard to believe the media, not just because they 436 00:32:22,039 --> 00:32:24,519 lie about everything, but because we all go to the store, we all 437 00:32:24,519 --> 00:32:30,079 try to buy houses, we all like fill our gas tank, we all 438 00:32:30,119 --> 00:32:36,400 know what's going on. I sometimes think people, let me take a step 439 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,559 back. So I think a lot of those stories, the people writing them 440 00:32:38,559 --> 00:32:44,200 are illiterate about economics. They talk about the inflation rate year to year without 441 00:32:44,279 --> 00:32:50,319 mentioning the compounding price spikes that are still with us, which matter. You 442 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,839 know me, I like hand over my credit card. I don't know what 443 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,519 anything costs typically, and even I go to supermarket and I'm like, boy, 444 00:32:55,640 --> 00:33:00,839 that's crazy. You know, everything seems expensive and there's just no getting 445 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:05,119 around that. Gas is more expensive every you know, your energy bills are 446 00:33:05,119 --> 00:33:08,680 more expensive. So that's reflected in polls. I will say that a lot 447 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:15,440 of these polls are really close, Like in Wisconsin, it has Biden leading 448 00:33:15,839 --> 00:33:19,640 with registered voters, but Trump leading with likely voters. So there's a lot 449 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:25,400 of that kind of stuff going on. It no Biden leads in Wisconsin among 450 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:30,400 registered voters, Trump leads among likely voters. That's weird, right, It's 451 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:36,400 usually it is because like Democrats, Democrats are great at finding the votes, 452 00:33:36,839 --> 00:33:42,440 finding ballots, and getting those ballots into the ballot box. So I feel 453 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:47,200 like there's all I'm sorry. There's a big upside and opportunity for Republicans to 454 00:33:47,279 --> 00:33:53,039 start doing some of the ballot harvesting that Democrats have perfected in recent years, 455 00:33:53,559 --> 00:34:00,799 but that does require organization and smarts. I do wonder that if there's automatic 456 00:34:00,319 --> 00:34:04,480 voter registration, like for you at the DMV or stuff in some states, 457 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,640 and I do wonder if maybe that plays into a lot of people well voting. 458 00:34:07,079 --> 00:34:10,199 There are there's definitely an issue in certain states. I think Nevada being 459 00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:14,440 one of them. But Wisconsin is very interesting because it had like a real 460 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:19,719 progressive revolution one hundred years ago, and so they have in their constitution that 461 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,199 you have the right not to vote. That's amazing, yeah, which is 462 00:34:23,519 --> 00:34:28,599 yeah, yeah, But they were directical statement. Yeah, so they were 463 00:34:28,599 --> 00:34:31,679 so into direct democracy that they really cared about different voting roles. But one 464 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:36,320 of them was something that's hurt democrats, which is you have the right not 465 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,519 to vote. I mean, not voting is a political statement in the same 466 00:34:39,519 --> 00:34:43,920 way voting is so forcing people to vote as they do in Australia and some 467 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,239 other countries, it is just completely illiberal. Anyway, last thing I'd like 468 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:52,159 to say is that Trump, in other various polls, is leading in Georgia, 469 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,400 Nevada, Arizona, Pennsylvania, Nevada. In one of the Nevada polls 470 00:34:55,440 --> 00:35:00,239 I saw he was a big which is zoom, has a lot to do 471 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:05,840 with the Latino working class vote and stuff like that. But yeah, I 472 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,320 don't know. Well, I again, I assume I would assume that in 473 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:14,159 a free and fair election in Nevada that Trump and other Republicans would just crush 474 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,960 it again, and we have a story about it up this week. Nevada 475 00:35:17,039 --> 00:35:22,079 is one of the best places for Democrat ballot harvesting, including that they allow 476 00:35:22,159 --> 00:35:25,440 votes to come in after election day and so they can kind of like just 477 00:35:25,559 --> 00:35:30,599 wait and see what they need and then get the number of votes in that 478 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:35,920 they need in order to secure victory. And they've got these union groups that 479 00:35:36,039 --> 00:35:40,000 are willing to do some ballot trafficking in Clark County, which is where Vegas 480 00:35:40,079 --> 00:35:45,559 is. It's just a brilliant plan for Democrats. Don't hate the player, 481 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:52,960 hate the game. Let's talk a little bit about the Senate. If that's 482 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:57,760 okay. I haven't really taken a deep dive. I know that West Virginia, 483 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,039 you know, will probably be turned Republican. And Maryland. Let's talk 484 00:36:00,039 --> 00:36:04,400 about Maryland. So there was this guy named David Tron or Tron, I 485 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,320 don't know how to pronounce it, who was running in the Democratic primary against 486 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:17,079 a woman named Angela also Brooks. He lost sixty million dollars in a primary 487 00:36:17,639 --> 00:36:22,800 in Maryland, which is a relatively small state. That's insane. How do 488 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,800 you even I don't know, Molly, if I could do that, if 489 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:30,000 I tried to do that. So I don't think Maryland is as small as 490 00:36:30,039 --> 00:36:34,119 you're making it out. It's more like kind of a difficult state with many 491 00:36:34,119 --> 00:36:37,679 different media markets. But yes, he spent sixty million dollars in lost. 492 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:42,159 But I do want to point out that everything is working according to my plan 493 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:49,440 here. So back when Larry Hogan and Chris Christy and we're making runs for 494 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,400 the presidency, I wrote a piece saying that if they love their country, 495 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:58,880 they should run for Senate instead of running for the presidency. There was zero 496 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:06,199 market for them in the Republican presidential contest, Like their only function really is 497 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:12,320 to be never Trump types in a media environment. But Larry Hogan was a 498 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,960 very popular governor of Maryland as a Republican, he should he was like clearly 499 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:23,519 not ideologically, am I saying this, but ido but for other reasons was 500 00:37:23,559 --> 00:37:29,119 the best idea for who to run for Senate as the Republican this year. 501 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,599 So he did it. So that's first, first off, good for him 502 00:37:31,599 --> 00:37:38,480 for actually doing it. And then because Trone lost to this also Brooks, 503 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:45,039 Lady Trone was not just going to spend sixty million dollars winning the primary. 504 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,920 He was going to spend he was going to self fund for the general, 505 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,320 which meant that Democrats didn't have to pour any money into the race. But 506 00:37:52,599 --> 00:37:58,840 now that also Brooks won the Democrat nomination, Democrats have to fight for this 507 00:37:59,119 --> 00:38:01,280 race. And if she's kind of I think she's still you know, favored 508 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:06,079 and all that, and that means that they can't spend that money in Pennsylvania 509 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:10,280 and Arizona. And so it's it's actually a really interesting situation beyond just how 510 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:15,599 embarrassing it is for David Trown that he lost sixty million dollars and he was 511 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:20,360 the more progressive. He was like a prog right, he was progressive guy. 512 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,880 Far left. No, I think Angela also Brooke is the one that 513 00:38:23,119 --> 00:38:28,960 is. Yeah, I mean they're all kind of they're all left wingers, 514 00:38:29,039 --> 00:38:31,320 but yeah, I mean I'm with you, you know, people, I 515 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:36,320 get why Republicans get mad at Susan Collins and people like that, but you 516 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,559 know, you do the best you can do in in states like that, 517 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:44,559 and most of you know, the important thing for the Senate is getting the 518 00:38:44,559 --> 00:38:47,239 majority, and then you dictate the agenda and you can stop the president if 519 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:52,360 it's Joe Biden. And that's the point, right, So you're not going 520 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,280 to run conservatives in Maryland. They're not going to win. They were barely 521 00:38:55,320 --> 00:39:01,480 you know, they're they're yeah place, it's the liberal state. So so 522 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:07,320 I just realized David Trone was the co founder of Total Wine and that he 523 00:39:07,559 --> 00:39:13,280 was in his third term in Congress representing Maryland sixth district, which is congressman 524 00:39:13,559 --> 00:39:16,559 the westernmost part of the state. I was just I was going to make 525 00:39:16,559 --> 00:39:23,360 a point about how many of these you know, oo democracy, progressive self 526 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:28,480 fund their campaign with tons of money, like Jared Polis in Colorado, who 527 00:39:28,519 --> 00:39:32,679 I knew when he was just this activist guy and he had a group that 528 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:37,639 wanted to take money out of politics, and then when that didn't work, 529 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:43,880 he just funded every campaign and bought the governorship of Colorado. Basically America wonderful 530 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,519 country. Yes, may so you had a piece up on Federalist dot com 531 00:39:47,519 --> 00:39:51,639 today. Can you tell us a little bit about it? Yeah. I 532 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,400 thought it was an interesting story about when you look at the Department of Justice 533 00:39:55,400 --> 00:40:00,960 and how corrupt it is and how much its reputation has just traded, and 534 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:06,199 you kind of wonder, like, what's been going on with their Inspector General 535 00:40:06,199 --> 00:40:10,320 office. The Inspector General Office is supposed to root out corruption in the department. 536 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:15,679 In reality, it's more like in a corporate HR office, you know, 537 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:21,880 something that just exists to make problems go away, kind of. But 538 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,239 I thought it was interesting that for a lot of Americans, when they look 539 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:30,360 at the Trump DOJ, they might have fine thoughts about it, but they 540 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:35,639 probably really wish that the Trump DOJ had been far more aggressive in rooting out 541 00:40:36,079 --> 00:40:40,079 election problems in twenty twenty, like in advance of the election. Like you 542 00:40:40,119 --> 00:40:45,480 see the DOJ for Biden right now is suing Iowa over some election integrity measure, 543 00:40:45,599 --> 00:40:49,440 Like they have no qualms about coming in and just doing whatever it takes 544 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,639 to make elections less secure, and they do it under the guise of the 545 00:40:52,639 --> 00:40:57,360 Civil Rights Office. You also wish maybe that the Trump DOJ had done far 546 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:01,199 more to deal with some of the bad policies that were enacted by governors during 547 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:08,599 COVID, such as like the policy that Cuomo and other Democrat governors had of 548 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:13,719 putting people with COVID in state run nursing homes. You might remember that was 549 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,679 like a big deal in New York. Lied about it, and that's a 550 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:22,559 civil rights violation that was and so for no reason. Yeah, so the 551 00:41:22,639 --> 00:41:27,679 Trump DOJ didn't really do much, but they did announce that they were going 552 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:32,039 to investigate some of these things. And so the IG, the Inspector General, 553 00:41:32,119 --> 00:41:37,920 the Internal watchdog, is doing nothing about DOJ's like Russia collusion scams, 554 00:41:38,079 --> 00:41:44,800 or their participation in the mar A Lago raid, or like law fair against 555 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:49,840 Republicans, like they're just doing nothing. But they are investigating Bill Barr and 556 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:55,559 other Trump appointees merely for noting, like noting that there were some discarded ballots 557 00:41:55,599 --> 00:42:00,800 found in Pennsylvania in the summer of twenty twenty. Can you remember that there 558 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:05,639 were some Trump ballots that were okay? So they kind of publicly acknowledged that 559 00:42:05,679 --> 00:42:07,320 they were aware of that, that they were looking into it, and the 560 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:13,679 dojig is going after them for it. Likewise, they announced that they were 561 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,320 looking for more information from like Cuomo and other governors who had done some of 562 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:22,559 these bad COVID policies, and for that crime of just like letting people know, 563 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,360 yeah, we're looking into it, which is a common thing you do 564 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:30,880 on civil rights issues and other things like that, the IG is going after 565 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:35,519 them. So the IG, first of all, on the election thing, 566 00:42:35,559 --> 00:42:39,960 they're going to say, oh, you didn't break any law and you didn't 567 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:45,239 violate any guidance, but you showed bad judgment. And then they're working on 568 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:49,280 doing a similar type thing for the announcement of the nursing home thing. Well, 569 00:42:50,079 --> 00:42:52,960 my piece today looks at four of the people that are at the IG's 570 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:58,000 office, and it looks at they're giving record people who are involved in this 571 00:42:58,119 --> 00:43:04,519 or other anti Trump investigations their public giving records which go one hundred percent for 572 00:43:04,639 --> 00:43:09,559 Democrats. Their track record of working on some of the craziest most left wing 573 00:43:09,679 --> 00:43:15,920 cases in like Obama history, actually working at different at that time. They 574 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:19,480 were working in different parts of the Department of Justice and actually helping, for 575 00:43:19,519 --> 00:43:25,880 instance, sue schools who didn't let boys use girls' bathrooms or suing states that 576 00:43:27,199 --> 00:43:30,960 require identification in order to vote. Some of these people have moved on to 577 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:35,159 even though the reports haven't been released yet, some of these people have moved 578 00:43:35,199 --> 00:43:39,000 on to crazy left wing groups. And in one instance, I looked at 579 00:43:39,039 --> 00:43:45,119 the thirteen hundred likes on this one lady's social media accounts. So she's supposed 580 00:43:45,119 --> 00:43:49,920 to be investigating bar and other Trump appointees, you know, showing that they 581 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:54,719 had bad judgment. This woman's social media history is like if Rachel Maddow was 582 00:43:54,760 --> 00:44:00,199 having like an LSD fever dream. She is so crazy, like full of 583 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:07,239 just visceral hatred towards Bar. She comments on ongoing investigations at the DOJ. 584 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:13,880 She shows hatred for Trump appointees while she's working for them. She praises Joe 585 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,159 Biden, you know these in her likes. You know, it's like uniformly 586 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:22,280 pro Democrat and anti Republican, and it's every Republican. Yeah it's Trump, 587 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,559 Yeah it's bar It's also like Mitch McConnell. I mean, there's not a 588 00:44:25,599 --> 00:44:30,880 Republican that she has even like the slightest fond feeling toward. And with the 589 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:35,880 Democrats, she's like, she likes tweets that say like Hakeem Jeffries is the 590 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,719 best person ever, and Nancy Pelosi is one smart lady. And then it'll 591 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,960 be like Trump people should be shot and killed, and she's like, like, 592 00:44:43,199 --> 00:44:45,480 you know, on her social media, these are the people who're supposed 593 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:50,400 to investigate Bill Barr and other Trump appointees. Are you kidding me? Right 594 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:57,440 now? And then finally, I also noted who the individual was. So 595 00:44:57,679 --> 00:45:00,280 you might not remember this, but in twenty twenty one of Oh, by 596 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:04,400 the way, that lady that I just talked about is supposedly an expert in 597 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:10,559 prosecuting leaks, like she was in that role during the leak deluge of the 598 00:45:10,599 --> 00:45:15,039 Trump administration. I think we might know why things didn't go so well on 599 00:45:15,079 --> 00:45:19,599 the leak investigations. But anyway, there was this other person who worked at 600 00:45:19,599 --> 00:45:23,000 the IG's office, and you know, like their profiles of him in his 601 00:45:23,079 --> 00:45:28,920 Stanford Law School alumni magazine or whatever that said, like he decided to go 602 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,360 to law school because he lived in DC in two thousand and one and he 603 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:36,880 saw all of the anti Muslim hatred. I was like, I lived in 604 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,639 DC, and I have no idea what you're talking about, buddy. That 605 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:46,880 his like proudest moment on campus was protesting Bush appointees that were speaking there. 606 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:51,079 You know, like he's one of those kind of left wingers. His dad 607 00:45:51,159 --> 00:45:55,599 used to run the Oregon Democrat Party and he was working on an investigation into 608 00:45:55,639 --> 00:46:00,039 the zero tolerance policy, which is that even if you trap children across the 609 00:46:00,039 --> 00:46:04,559 border, if you're breaking the law by crossing the border, you'll be prosecuted. 610 00:46:04,599 --> 00:46:08,719 And of course, this was hugely controversial during the Trump administration, and 611 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:13,440 the report was not slated to come out before the election. It was slated 612 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,320 to come out after the election, and in fact it did was officially released 613 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:21,760 after the election. But he wanted it to affect the twenty twenty election, 614 00:46:22,079 --> 00:46:25,480 so he called up his buddies at the New York Times and NBC News and 615 00:46:25,519 --> 00:46:30,960 he leaked it to them so that he could he could help his preferred political 616 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:35,320 candidate Joe Biden win. And it took a lot of pressure. I didn't 617 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,639 even get into this in the story. It took a lot of pressure to 618 00:46:37,639 --> 00:46:42,159 get anyone to investigate this leak because it was actually coming from within the watchdog 619 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,599 office. Like, clearly the leak happened from the people who were supposed to 620 00:46:45,599 --> 00:46:50,760 be rooting out corruption and leaks and problems. So they finally investigate it and 621 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,800 they discover it's this guy and that he had had all this contact with these 622 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:57,000 reporters and they tell him, like, we know it's you, and he 623 00:46:57,079 --> 00:46:59,760 says it was not me, and they were like, okay, well could 624 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:01,760 you say in this document saying that it's not you? And he was like, 625 00:47:02,119 --> 00:47:06,280 instead, I will quit on the spot and go work for a top 626 00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,480 democrat in the House. And now he's like completely underground, so I assume 627 00:47:09,559 --> 00:47:15,159 that he's working for like one of the Get Trump operations across the country. 628 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:20,559 But anyway, my piece goes into that and it names names. And I've 629 00:47:20,599 --> 00:47:22,320 gotten so many notes this morning from people who are like, it is so 630 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:28,679 valuable that you named names because these people are so unaccountable. Oh. One 631 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:34,360 of the tweets that this lady liked was a tweet saying Bill Barr promotes a 632 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,880 myth of an unaccountable DOJ official, and it was like, oh, okay, 633 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:43,440 so trying to hold these people accountable by naming them, showing who they 634 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:49,519 are and how they have very poor judgment to rule that other people are showing 635 00:47:49,599 --> 00:47:57,159 bad judgment. It is a great piece. People should read it. Good 636 00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:04,440 job, Molly, thank you remind me a little bit about how And actually 637 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,280 this is a good segue into just to quickly say, I like Bill Barr 638 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,639 a lot, I feel from what I know. I've never met him or 639 00:48:10,639 --> 00:48:14,960 anything, but he seems to call shots as they are. I mean, 640 00:48:15,039 --> 00:48:17,440 he'll call out Trump if he doesn't like what Trump's doing, and he calls 641 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:22,440 out Dems for what they're doing. And it just seems a rarity in either 642 00:48:22,519 --> 00:48:25,559 party that you get someone like that. Am I wrong? I think? 643 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:30,920 I mean, I've been on the record calling him like the only adult in 644 00:48:30,119 --> 00:48:34,559 Washington. I felt like some of what he did, and I know I 645 00:48:35,039 --> 00:48:37,880 understand how frustrating it might be to deal with Donald Trump. Oh. I 646 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:43,800 also want to say his biography is fantastic and a really fun and good read, 647 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:47,880 and he's pretty good about like not taking things personally. Did you see 648 00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:53,440 the recent tweet where Donald Trump was saying that since Bill Barr has endorsed him 649 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:59,679 for president, that he's officially removing one of the insults he uses against him 650 00:48:59,679 --> 00:49:02,960 with a which is lethargic. So, I mean, I have my own 651 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,960 criticisms. I wish he would had done I think he knew that the election 652 00:49:07,159 --> 00:49:09,920 was going to be fraught with problems and he should have done more. But 653 00:49:10,519 --> 00:49:14,880 part of what my piece is looking at is how even when you don't even 654 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,039 really do that much, they all fight you from the inside. And so 655 00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:22,760 our problem with DOJ is that it needs to be completely done away with. 656 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:28,400 It is just a completely corrupt organization. Having someone with his courage and his 657 00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,280 wisdom is not sufficient even if he has a small handful of people working with 658 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:36,679 him. But then also I felt like it just sort of like sticks in 659 00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:40,239 my craw that he was like, yeah, they've been they've been trying to 660 00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:46,760 destroy Trump with ridiculous conspiracy theories for years. But I think this classified document 661 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,400 one like that's on the up and up, and it's like, we're going 662 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,000 to need you to be smarter here, Like that clearly was not on the 663 00:49:52,079 --> 00:49:55,119 up and up, and thank god, there's like a judge who has resisted 664 00:49:55,280 --> 00:50:00,880 unbelievable pressure from corporate media and other Democrats to kind of show that that was 665 00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:04,239 not on the up and up, with the DOJ admitting last week that they 666 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:08,840 had mishandled or tampered with the evidence in that case. And Bill Barr should 667 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:14,679 have known to not just be like uncritically accepting whatever these partisans say when they're 668 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,480 you know, in a way no more than I accept what they and what 669 00:50:17,519 --> 00:50:23,760 they're saying about him right now, right, but yeah, generally favorable. 670 00:50:27,639 --> 00:50:31,039 Yeah, okay, Well, so draining the swamp, that's a great slogan, 671 00:50:31,519 --> 00:50:35,920 you know, and it's something that we should aspire to do, or 672 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,480 any president should aspire to do. But the problem is, it's almost impossible. 673 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:42,039 Do you agree with that? I mean, like you say, even 674 00:50:42,079 --> 00:50:49,039 the smallest change, there's an entire storm of media coverage of people resisting change 675 00:50:49,079 --> 00:50:54,000 within DC. It's dislodging those people who actually run the country more than any 676 00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:59,280 politician is virtually impossible. I mean, you have to be it has to 677 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,079 be the project of your presidency, and you have to be willing to like 678 00:51:02,159 --> 00:51:07,719 go to war with these people. So I was watching Aaron Rodgers last night 679 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,400 on Tucker Did you see that interview? I saw. I did not see 680 00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:14,400 the interview now, but one of the things Aaron Rodgers says is like he 681 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,480 actually kind of likes Trump, but what he doesn't like is that he promised 682 00:51:16,519 --> 00:51:20,559 to drain the swamp and he didn't. And I'm like, okay, fair, 683 00:51:20,639 --> 00:51:22,559 I hear people say this all the time, and I'm like, also 684 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:27,360 familiar with things like what I just told you about that if you so much 685 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:31,320 as acknowledge the reality that ballots were dumped in Pennsylvania, they're going to come 686 00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:37,280 after you and that like that's the environment for everybody in the administration, not 687 00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,320 to mention, they will alsole they accuse you of being a trader who stole 688 00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:44,360 the election, and wrap you up in law fair and then they're going to 689 00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,480 try and imprison you, like for just for what Trump did, which was 690 00:51:47,559 --> 00:51:53,079 kind of exposing how corrupt DC was. They're trying to kill him, Like 691 00:51:53,119 --> 00:51:55,960 that's clearly what they're trying to do. And so when people are like, 692 00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:00,679 he didn't fix everything that had been built up through hundreds of years or one 693 00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:06,119 hundred years of progressives trying to destroy the Constitution. It's like, you're right, 694 00:52:06,199 --> 00:52:08,239 he didn't fix everything in the four years when he got here, and 695 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:14,440 had no idea that, for instance, the establishment Republican Party would not be 696 00:52:14,519 --> 00:52:17,119 working with him but against him. Like, I don't think we all expected 697 00:52:17,119 --> 00:52:20,639 that so much. Yeah, I don't think you're giving it. I don't 698 00:52:20,639 --> 00:52:22,679 think you're placing enough blame on him. Though. There's a lot of incompetence 699 00:52:22,679 --> 00:52:25,639 there in the sense of bringing people with you who are going to help you, 700 00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:29,760 who are competent. You know, it seems like he has a better 701 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:34,159 handle on that this time, and maybe he was hope wasn't prepared, But 702 00:52:34,199 --> 00:52:37,239 there's a lot of things that you know. Of course, politicians promise things 703 00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,079 that they don't do them. But he brought people who who didn't like him, 704 00:52:40,079 --> 00:52:44,840 who hated him. Basically, I'm not saying you shouldn't have people who 705 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,360 oppose you in the administration, but you also need people you can trust that 706 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:51,320 are going to follow through and do the things that you asked him to do. 707 00:52:52,039 --> 00:52:53,480 I'm not sure how I do not want to give them. I think 708 00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:59,480 I've said it before. His greatest failing was impersonnel, and there's got to 709 00:52:59,519 --> 00:53:02,880 be a massive change in that. But it's also even if you had like 710 00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:07,519 a perfect staff, it's almost an impossible task. And he definitely did not 711 00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:12,519 have a perfect staff. He had close to the opposite, and a lot 712 00:53:12,559 --> 00:53:15,320 of that is on him. Yeah, I think Reagan came in and brought 713 00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:19,400 an army, and you got to do that. And even even that didn't 714 00:53:19,519 --> 00:53:22,840 really work right, there are a lot of people within the cabinet who didn't 715 00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,440 really believe in what Reagan was doing, you know what I mean. So, 716 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,840 and he brought a lot of people with him, so it is an 717 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:35,800 immense task. It does remind me in a weird way of what goes on 718 00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,679 which I mentioned numerous times on the show, where a Republican will do something 719 00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:44,440 completely normal and legal and it will be framed as something devious and illegal by 720 00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,000 the press and by other people in the government. And I'll give you an 721 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:51,199 example of that now, which I know you know is happening. Donald Trump 722 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,239 is a gag order. He literally can't say anything about this law fair that's 723 00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:58,519 going on, this ridiculous case in New York that Alvin Bragg is putting on. 724 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:04,000 So other Republicans have starts showing up as proxies speaking and saying the things 725 00:54:04,079 --> 00:54:08,360 that probably Donald Trump wants to say. And there a memo went out across 726 00:54:08,519 --> 00:54:16,840 media to frame it as some kind of crazy, devious, democracy corroding effort 727 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:22,599 by people to involve themselves and undermine the judicial process. So it's not the 728 00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:29,920 unique legal theories that are just preposterous that even many liberals admit are ridiculous in 729 00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,159 New York, that's the problem with the judicial system. It's people going to 730 00:54:32,199 --> 00:54:37,480 defend the president or the former president of the United States. So I thought 731 00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:45,599 it was really interesting how upset people got over Republicans speaking out against Democrat lawfair, 732 00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:54,559 and it shows the importance of Republicans speaking out against Democrat lawfare. So 733 00:54:54,599 --> 00:54:59,920 one of these tweets was from the chief political reporter for the Associated Press, 734 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:05,360 which is a prominent Democrat propaganda outlet, and it's from Yes Steve Peoples, 735 00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:09,880 and he says he's talking about how Speaker of the House Mike Johnson went to 736 00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:15,159 speak against Democrat law fair, and he says the appearance of the House Speaker, 737 00:55:15,559 --> 00:55:22,800 second in the line of succession to the president is a politically stunning and 738 00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:28,559 significant show of Republican support for the indicted Trump coming from the highest levels of 739 00:55:28,599 --> 00:55:34,840 party power. Johnson is using the powerful pulpit of the Speaker's office to attack 740 00:55:35,639 --> 00:55:40,679 and tear down the US judicial system. And I was like, what in 741 00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:46,880 the world you can use courts to try to destroy political opponents and you will 742 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:52,760 be praised by Steve Peoples and the Associated Press if you speak out against the 743 00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:57,000 destruction a rule of law and turning us you speak out against turning us into 744 00:55:57,039 --> 00:56:01,960 a third world banana republic or like a Putinesque system, then you're the one 745 00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:07,960 who's attacking and tearing down the judicial system. And then I saw McKay coppins, 746 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:12,639 who is like Romney's personal aid but works at the Atlantic, and he 747 00:56:12,679 --> 00:56:17,719 said Trump effectively requiring every Republican who wants a big job in his administration to 748 00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:22,239 come defend him outside the courthouse during his quote hush money to cover up an 749 00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:28,159 affair with a porn star quote trial is a real indicator of where American conservatism 750 00:56:28,199 --> 00:56:31,039 stands. And I was like, you know what, every single journalist in 751 00:56:31,079 --> 00:56:36,400 America knows that this New York City show trial is a horrendous attack on our 752 00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:40,760 country's rule of law, every single one, including McKay coppins. And if 753 00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:45,360 they enable or otherwise soft pedal what's going on there. They're actively harming the 754 00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:50,159 country. But it was just like so interesting. They got real freaked out, 755 00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,039 like in order, like everyone knows this is a show trial. When 756 00:56:52,039 --> 00:56:57,039 the indictments came down, even people like McKay coppins admitted it, right, 757 00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:00,599 But now that it's the only means by which they might secure a convey against 758 00:57:00,599 --> 00:57:04,039 Trump, now they're like having to pretend like it's a real thing. They 759 00:57:04,039 --> 00:57:07,159 haven't even shown a crime. They haven't shown evidence of a crime. Like 760 00:57:07,199 --> 00:57:09,239 Byron NewYork keeps pointing out, they keep showing evidence of things that aren't in 761 00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:13,960 dispute, but they haven't actually shown evidence of a crime. I don't think 762 00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,480 that's a barrier to a New York City juror convicting Trump. Obviously, you 763 00:57:16,599 --> 00:57:22,119 pick a New York City venue precisely, precisely so that your show trial can 764 00:57:22,159 --> 00:57:25,679 secure a quick and easy conviction. But yeah, the reporters are real mad. 765 00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:30,480 The journalists are real mad because like they suddenly realized, oh wait, 766 00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:36,280 our dumb audiences are falling for what we're doing, and our cloistered newsrooms are 767 00:57:36,519 --> 00:57:39,880 letting us sit here and talk about an echo chamber here. But even Mike 768 00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:45,960 Johnson, someone who can be pretty easily controlled by DC, was like up 769 00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:50,639 there because he knows nobody has a future in the country, nobody has a 770 00:57:50,679 --> 00:57:55,159 future in the Republican Party if they don't speak out against destroying rule of law, 771 00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:59,960 Like it's a no brainer. Can I read you? My favorite Aphia 772 00:58:00,079 --> 00:58:05,360 line on this was like this Alvin Bragg's efforts at neutrality to be tested in 773 00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:09,360 Trump trial. Well, it's a real look, Alvin Bragg. Didn't he 774 00:58:09,639 --> 00:58:14,719 brag that he was going to go after Trump in his he's the look deep 775 00:58:14,719 --> 00:58:21,199 Berea of the US, I mean, along with what's her name, Letitia 776 00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,400 James, where they were like, we don't know what we're going to get 777 00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:27,159 him on, but we're going to get him. That's not what we do 778 00:58:27,239 --> 00:58:30,199 in America. And I don't see like it shouldn't just be Republicans who want 779 00:58:30,199 --> 00:58:32,559 a b VP or you know. And I, by the way, I 780 00:58:32,599 --> 00:58:37,159 think that's like a stupid talking point that went out that stupid people said, 781 00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:42,159 because I don't think like Tommy Tubberville is like looking to be VP. But 782 00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:45,440 he still was up there being like this is un American because he's a brave 783 00:58:45,519 --> 00:58:49,480 person. He also was out there in front of the Supreme Court when the 784 00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,760 Democrats ran their fourteenth Amendment case, and it was also and I think, 785 00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:54,440 I think, you know, I saw him out there and he was kind 786 00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:58,320 of like why why he didn't say this, But I got the feeling of 787 00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:00,239 like he was wondering why he was the person out there, not that he 788 00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:05,440 was the only person, but one of few I mentioned. I tweeted out 789 00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,039 like a few days ago that Paula Jones had a settle, you know, 790 00:59:07,239 --> 00:59:10,559 agreed to a settlement with Bill Clinton, which is very similar to this. 791 00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:15,079 You know, the settlement was there to help him win an election, and 792 00:59:15,119 --> 00:59:17,960 people like that's different. That's not hush money, like he keeps saying hush 793 00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:22,639 money like it actually means something like there's some legal value to hush money. 794 00:59:22,719 --> 00:59:29,320 Hush Money's just a thing media came up exactly completely legal, doesn't mean anything. 795 00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:31,880 There is no crime there. Actually, the thing I do find kind 796 00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:37,360 of interesting from this trial is it appears that it appears more like someone was 797 00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:40,599 being blackmailed. And I kind of wondered if Michael Cohen weren't involved in that 798 00:59:40,599 --> 00:59:45,039 blackmail effort. Hope Hicks when she was testifying, said that Michael Cohen called 799 00:59:45,079 --> 00:59:49,440 himself the fixer, but in her experience, he broke things in order so 800 00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,119 that he could say he had fixed them. And I was like, Oh, 801 00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:59,599 did he conspire with Smokey McDaniels to do a blackmail operation? Like I 802 00:59:59,639 --> 01:00:05,639 don't know, but just kind of crazy. It is funny that when it's 803 01:00:05,719 --> 01:00:08,159 helpful, it's a porn star to try to make him look bad, but 804 01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:13,320 other times it's sex worker when you taught, or you know whatever, some 805 01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:16,880 other kind of language. Interesting. Yeah, I think that porn star, 806 01:00:17,719 --> 01:00:22,559 which is everyone who's a pornographic actress, which is just really prostitution, is 807 01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:28,199 incentivizing people to go into that business. This is my theory. You should 808 01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:32,400 call them like bureau sex actresses or something like that. Not everyone is a 809 01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:37,400 star, right, I think, like, yeah, d list on screen 810 01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:45,280 prostitute has a different vibe than porn star. Sure. Right. By the 811 01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:49,239 way, one last word on this the goals that we were just talking about, 812 01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,760 all of them, these trials have zero impact on anyone. It is 813 01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:57,159 one of the least important things to most people. I don't think they're paying 814 01:00:57,199 --> 01:01:00,159 attention. I personally think actually that they have had an impact. They just 815 01:01:00,199 --> 01:01:06,639 haven't changed in the last six months. Meaning people don't like what Democrats are 816 01:01:06,679 --> 01:01:09,880 doing as a result of their hatred for one man and those who support him, 817 01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:15,440 and they hate destroying our entire system of rule of law more than they 818 01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:21,079 hate that. Donald Trump is stupid for having even been in a position where 819 01:01:21,119 --> 01:01:27,239 he could be blackmailed in this way. You know. Yeah, Okay, 820 01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:30,800 let's talk about culture. I've had I've done some things. First off, 821 01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:34,119 I think last week we talked about how you got me that Yazoo record, 822 01:01:34,599 --> 01:01:39,480 which is wonderful and I've just been having fun listening to it. I had 823 01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:44,760 a friend staying with me this weekend. We saw The Fall Guy. Have 824 01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,360 you seen that? The one? No? I have not the movie? 825 01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:54,920 Yeah, no, I heard. I heard It's not great. I loved 826 01:01:54,960 --> 01:02:00,119 it. I thought it was fantastic. I highly recommend it. I like, 827 01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,800 I mean, I liked it so much. I don't want to overstate 828 01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:06,119 what it is. It's basically just a movie where you get to see a 829 01:02:06,159 --> 01:02:10,480 lot of stunts. But it had not only did it not have anything woke 830 01:02:10,599 --> 01:02:15,320 in it. The only woke thing it had was when a bad actor used 831 01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:20,599 wokeness to try to get out of taking responsibility for what they had done. 832 01:02:21,079 --> 01:02:23,840 Like it was so by that, I mean that it was basically anti woke 833 01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:32,199 and it's got some violence, it's got some Yeah, it's you know, 834 01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:37,400 some drug use, but like in a kind of funny way. But it 835 01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:39,719 was really really well done, and it just kind of reminded me of those 836 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:45,440 stupid movies you'd go see when you were a teenager that maybe don't stick with 837 01:02:45,519 --> 01:02:49,239 you till the end of time, but like make for a very enjoyable evening. 838 01:02:50,639 --> 01:02:53,559 Wow, Okay, great. I mean that seems like something I'll probably 839 01:02:53,639 --> 01:02:58,719 catch on Netflix or whatever, but I have some interest in it because I 840 01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:01,039 actually am old enough that I watched the show when it was on with Lee 841 01:03:01,159 --> 01:03:07,239 Majors. Yeah, and I want to stay till the very end. Oh 842 01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:13,920 okay, that's a spoiler. So Also, what's the Ryan Gossling. Yeah 843 01:03:14,159 --> 01:03:15,880 it was great. Yeah, I think he's pretty good in everything he does. 844 01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:23,000 Yeah, he's utterly delightful. So and then I also watched Footloose for 845 01:03:23,039 --> 01:03:29,599 the first original for the first time. I was like very familiar with the 846 01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:31,760 movie, but I don't think i'd ever seen it, and I couldn't get 847 01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:39,480 a really It should not work as a movie. It is so absurdly cliche 848 01:03:39,599 --> 01:03:45,079 written, you know, bad, like the preacher was a preacher in this 849 01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:50,119 town. They're burning books and they don't love be banned dancing. They banned 850 01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:53,519 dancing. It's so bad, and yet it's really well