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yeah, so how's it going, David. We got quite the week.
A little bum that that guy didn't mention me personally. He did, he
mentioned all of us. I loved this note, So all right, nice
got his head screwed on, right, Yeah, it's an interesting week.
And just this morning, I think we need to talk about it. The
two presidential major presidential candidates agreed on a debate. The first one will be
held I think it's June twenty seventh on CNNNNN. Well, it was funny
because this morning Joe Biden released a video where a short video on X that
had I think fifteen cuts in fifty five seconds of speaking like he you know,
it was just it's terrible, but he, you know, challenge says,
you know Donald Trump' scared to debate you know anytime, pal, I
think, he says, and then Trump agreed to it in like five seconds.
So I have worked at Fox for like seven or eight years, and
so I did not overlap with Roger Ayles. But people, you know always
like share some of his tips and things because he was like this great newsman
and one of the things he would do is just look at TV with the
sound off and just look at what things looked like, and you know,
it just crushes me, like, I will work really hard on saying something
very effective, and like ninety nine percent of the commentary will be like I
loved your shoes or your hair and makeup looked great today. And you're thinking,
I'm fighting back with these like narrative busting words and everyone else is like
that looked good. But so I'm mentioning that because I didn't listen to the
Joe Biden video. I just saw it like as I was scrolling on my
Twitter, and it looked horrific, Like he looked so angry, the veins
were like bulging from his head and then yeah, it was very jumpy,
like you could tell they couldn't they had a piece together all these different segments,
and I was like, this is not going well for Joe Biden.
Well, we'll talk about pulling a little later, I think, but we
should mention it's typically the person who's behind in polls who's like clamoring to debate
because that's a way they believe to, you know, make up ground,
and it's clear that Joe Biden's the one who needs to make up ground.
I think, like I'll get into more of that later. I don't know
that, you know, I don't trust everything those poles tell me. But
here's a question for you play the part of Donald Trump. Why did he
agree to a debate so quickly? And why on CNN? And by the
way, there are tons of stipulations attached to this. I think there's not
going to be an audience. You know, we'll go through that as well.
But why do you think he does that? I think that Donald Trump
thinks, or maybe even knows, that he can handle any debate under any
circumstances, and that he also is probably suspicious about whether Joe Biden will actually
be able to carry through with this. There's like a huge exception to that.
I think the first debate of the twenty twenty election was his worst performance
ever. Not a good performance for Biden, an absolutely horrific performance for whoever
the moderator was. I don't oh gosh, I hope it might have been,
might have been Chris Wallace. Not oh boy, not a good debate,
but not a good debate for anyone, So like I'm not denying that,
but like, in general, I think he feels confident in his abilities,
and he also worries that Biden will back down. Maybe expectations are so
low that sometimes I have to admit maybe for both, even though I think
Donald Trump is an underrated debater in a way, but you think that Donald
Trump would try to like lower expectations. But here's his quote. I think
from his truth social or whatever is Joe Biden is the worst all caps debater
I have ever faced. It's just so funny, But I do worry about
Joe Biden's cognitive decline, not just in terms of the jump cuts in his
video announcement that he was willing to debate, like that's some big, great
thing, but also that he cannot have an audience, and you know,
the State of the Union includes an audience and corporate media and other Democrats said
his State of the Union was amazing, and it was very disorienting for me,
like as a pundit to be talking. I was like, I think
this was pretty awful. Everyone else was like that was that was a masterclass.
And he seemed like he was hopped up on goofy pills. And then
of course, like a few days later, the polling came out and they
did not agree with the corporate media that that had been a good performance.
But if you go back and, like Zapruder, the actual state of the
Union, his biggest points of struggle seemed to be when people were shouting things
out or when there was any kind of like audience disruption that was not just
straight encouragement applause. And so I think he can't have an audience because his
cognitive decline is so extensive that he needs he needs to just you know,
he can have a corporate media type like Caitlin Collins to help him or Jake
Tapper, you know, someone who will help him along and he can take
on Trump maybe, but it can't take on complications like an audience. I
my view of this is the Trump is fine. I think it's fine that
he goes on CNN and debates. I mean, because he's at his best
when he's sort of cornered and people are attacking him. I feel like,
and you know the thing here though, is that there are other stipulations.
You know, there's no RFK Junior now I'm not a fan at all,
but he, according to Poles, has quite a bit of support, even
you know, some from the right as well, not just the left.
And the debate also does not allow any Trump Trump remarks after Biden answers and
vice versa, which I think limits the kind of back and forth that actually
makes a debate more interesting than the canned responses these people usually have. And
I will just say, here's the problem that I do have with CNN is
that they're going to ask idiotic questions that no one cares about. Like typically
you have when you have politicians asking each other questions and challenging each other,
they get to the heart of what actually voters care about more than what Jake
Tapper is going to ask about, like the you know, what are you
going to do to save democracy? Or whatever kind of you know framing that
they put on question. So I don't know, I feel like that's not
great for Trump, but in general, having basically whoever's going to moderate be
against Trump and Joe Biden is good for Donald Trump. Does that make sense?
Yeah? I think he. I think having a cartoonish organization like CNN
host is actually helpful to Trump. He can easily remind people these are the
people who ran the Russia collusion lie. They ran the Cat Cavanaugh rapesmear like
you can just kind of go through all of the hoaxes and lies that they've
done and how much the reputation has suffered as a result from it. I
think having the media highlighted as an enemy is easier when it's like CNN or
NBC than even like CBS. Not that CBS is really much better, so
we'll see, but I mean, but I mean, you're right, CNN
has been behind a lot or one of the diving organizations or outlets, behind
a lot of the of the worst abdications of journalism recently. Kavanaugh comes to
mind, and definitely the Russia collusion hope, So those you know, it's
something he should remind them of. But Trump is not really disciplined in that
way. Yeah, I don't know. You know, Biden will have a
lot of advantages. He's whether it's his cognitive decline or lying like he's kind
of an expert in both of those things. He'll have the media assistance.
In fact, In fact, I would sort of assume that Donald Trump's biggest
debate opponent will be whoever they have quote unquote moderate the debate on behalf of
Democrats. But I don't know, it's like they never The other day,
Joe Biden said that when he came into office, inflation was at nine percent,
which is just a complete lies. One point four percent, right,
Not a single fact checker in any one of these major outlets just thought worth
fact checking that. So he'll say this at the debate and no one,
you know, no one's going to say anything. Donald Trump's going to have
to do all the heavy lifting on that. Oh. I think that also
they should say, like there will be no partisan fact checking by left wing
media. You know, you see this, you see this, No matter
who is moderating, they'll be like, mister president, it's not true,
or mister former president, it's not true that the Biden family business does business
with Red China. And it's like, yes, it is true, So
stop lying on behalf of your favorite candidate. So I think there's got to
be some kind of restriction on there. Also. I'm just you know,
I just don't think it's very democratic to not have a debate audience. So
I feel like that's one thing that Americans should fight for, is to have
a debate in front of an audience. Also not democratic. And I'm not
saying this for like, I actually think that this is something that would be
harmful to possibly both major party nominees or potential nominees. But they should let
RFK Junior debate. I think he's pulling well enough that he should at least
have an opportunity to be on that stage. I'm sure neither Biden nor Trump
want it, but it's kind of hard for all these corporate media left wingers
to claim that they're doing their propaganda on behalf of democracy when they're not advocating
for this third party candidate to be allowed on stage. And I know they
don't want him on stage because they think he's going to hurt Biden. He
might hurt Biden, he might hurt Trump, he might hurt both of them.
But if you've got that much support, I think you have a right
to be on stage. I'm always I always have this internal debate about whether
these debates mean anything or important, because I keep hearing out it's good for
American good for democracy. I'm pretty skeptical. You know, it's usually kind
of a circus. I don't know that people learn anything, But you know,
why not, I guess this position like why not and why not have
a you know, RFK Junior there. I mean, I think it would
expose him as kind of a creepy left winger frankly, but you know a
lot of people. He appeals to a lot of people in this country.
Yep. So let's talk about polling a little bit. Sorry, yeah,
yeah, yeah, you have more Yeah. Me being like generally positive toward
any Republican appearing on a debate stage with left wing media does not mean that
we shouldn't really mock the idea that CNN has any right to host any debate.
And it would have been a lot easier to make this argument had the
RNC not made the CNN one of its debate partners, I think during the
twenty twenty four primaries. But these are people who are professional liars and propagandists.
They have done so much damage to the country. They should not be
rewarded with like a prime time debate spot that will get them a lot of
ad revenue and that will kind of serve to functionally legitimize them as not the
propagandist that they are. And you know that's an issue, Well, I
mean CNN has that aside from all the usual faces, it has that alleged
bogus fact checker Dale. I forget what his name is, do you know?
Yeah, So, I mean it's just a joke. No, they
employed people who are mentally unwell I think, I mean they are, and
people who have to know that they're spreading propaganda, and or if they don't,
that's possibly even worse. And it's an institutional culture of lying for the
benefit of the Democrat Party. And they have, you know, they keep
on having Adam Schiffon after they spent years highlighting him claiming he had secret evidence
of collusion with Russia that enabled Trump to steal the twenty sixteen election. And
then they have the audacity to have Jake Tapper come out and set talk about
big lies, like we got some big lies for you, Jake. So
they need to be treated like the enemy that they are. I would trust
no Republican to do that, with the possible exception of Donald Trump, and
so other Republicans need to kind of understand they cannot they cannot care about trying
to please CNN. They need to go on CNN to punch it in its
face. Metaphorically as with all other left wing corporate media. Yeah, I
have no product. You know, I think we've talked about this before,
but I have no problem with Republicans going on these stations, but they need
to take a really aggressive form. Yeah. Wait, I have an idea
or a debate rule. No ear pieces or the moderators. No earpieces for
anyone. Okay, the candidates don't get earpieces where they're fed what to say,
and neither do the moderators. No ear pieces for moderators. That is
like a ridiculous and it would be different if quote unquote moderators actually were moderating
debate as opposed to, you know, putting a brick on the accelerator for
the Democrats. But since they are, and since that's what they do,
they should have no ear pieces for moderators. You will not be fed,
you know, Caitlin Collins won't be sitting there and being told by her producer,
now say this or here's a fact that we just like dug up to
make the Republican look bad. That is unfair, it's ridiculous, and they've
lost they've lost the opportunity to be treated like anything other than Democrat partisans,
So no ear pieces for any Democrats or Republicans on stage, most especially the
moderators. I like that. I like that rule. Good one. We
should come up, but you should write a piece giving your rules for debates.
I think that it suggest on television this morning that Joe Rogan be the
moderator of a presidential debate. I'm not sure if that was a good thing
to say. That's going to ask about UFO? Is there something though so
much? I think that would be great. I think it would be like
we're entertaining, for sure. Yeah, and not just entertaining, but more
illuminating. I think how people respond to things, you know, to a
genuinely curious moderator would be so much more interesting than how they respond to professional
propagandists. Just would be I always think that the best forum would be allowing
the candidates to ask each other questions rather than honor. Yeah, yeah,
Joe, why is your business in bed with the corrupt Chinese Communist Party?
Joe tell us? Now? Pretty good? Pretty good? I like it.
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or wherever you get your podcast. One last thing on debates, for
me, at least, is something I was thinking about before I forgot to
mention, is that when I was young and like Reagan debated or whatever,
because I'm old, it mattered more because there wasn't this twenty four to seven
news cycle where everyone saw the candidates speaking all the time and everyone knew what
they were going to say, and you know, it was just this constant
barrage of talking points where you actually got to see the candidates, you know,
up against someone who disagreed with them. It was a rare occurrence,
so I think they mattered more now I don't think they matter that much,
though they are entertaining usually, especially if Donald Trump's again, It just the
country cannot survive another one of those awful, awful whatever that first debate was
last time everybody was bad? That was Wallace? Right? Was that the
first one? Forget? I think so? Yeah, because he also he
also did the special in twenty sixteen where he asked Donald Trump if Donald Trump
would accept the election if he lost, and failed to ask Hillary Clinton,
who immediately responded to losing the election by running the Russia collusion line that,
like so destabilized the country and may have put us on a path to complete
destruction. So so let's talk a little bit about only Oh wait, I
think, yeah, yeah, you have more one last thing that reminds me
to keep going as long as you want, Like case, I feel like
you're done, and then I really upset about debates. But my favorite thing
that Ron DeSantis did during the Republican primary was after the eighth time or whatever
of different people being like, raise your hand if you would do this gotcha
question, he was like, I'm not a child, Stop telling me to
raise my hand. And I was like, thank you. I cannot stand
the raise your hand if you would this or that. It's like, let's
be more adult like and like have an actual conversation or debate where people you
know have to like communicate in ways that are not like you're a kindergartener.
Yeah, especially because the questions are usually you know, setups and of unfair
or will you accept the election? You know will maybe maybe not. I
don't know what happened. I mean, even like I keep on theking this
one during the Democrat primary in twenty twenty where it was like, would you
support free healthcare for illegal aliens? And oddly enough, I think everyone raised
their hand in it. I guess it's like good information to have, but
I never quite I felt like you it could have been more interesting to find
out why they think illegal aliens should be getting taxpayer funded healthcare than that they
do. I don't know. No, I agree. I hate that.
I hate that it's childish. Kyle, Okay, I'm going to talk about
polls now. Oh well, I think just a reminder of the best moment
in recent history, which is when everyone's like kind of shocked that Donald Trump
is even doing well enough to be on a debate stage in twenty sixteen,
and yet he is like he's he's leading in the polls and everything, and
that moment where Megan Kelly, who's like a very smart and tough cookie,
asks the question about like Donald Trump being mean towards certain women, and he
responds with the only Rosie O'Donnell. Do you remember that big yeah? Oh
my gosh, David, You've got to go back and watch it because it's
absolutely amazing. So she asks this question and he's like only Rosie O'Donnell,
and she's like, no, that's actually not true, and she does her
like litany of other times he's been rude to women, and he's like,
yeah, I actually think the country's got major problems and we're wasting time talking
about stuff like this and political correctness is destroying the country. And I just
remember it because it was kind of the moment when I was like, oh,
he not only did he get out of that, he got out of
that with a really important like everybody, let's grow up and start dealing with
you know, for instance, China and other big issues that people actually care
about instead of these questions about you know that don't really matter. I had
a theory about debating Donald Trump back then that I think holds up and it
was you'll remember they didn't know how to deal with him, right, So
Marco Rubio was there, Ram Paul, etc. And he was just dunking
on them left and right, and it was kind of funny. So then
all of a sudden they were like, Marco Rubio is going to do the
same thing to him and dunk on him. And you know, it's like
we've talked about this, where you go on a show with really legitimately funny
people, you should not try to be funny also because you just look ridiculous.
And that's what Marco Rubio looked like. But I likened it too.
Rocky three, when Thunderlips the wrestler fights Rocky in the beginning, it's like
Thunderlips doesn't have the same rules you have. Rocky only knows boxing rules,
Marco Ruby only understands the rules of politics that it's been taught. But Thunderlips
picks up Rocky and just throw out at the ring and thunder lives in this
situation. Is is Donald Trump? I think things have changed since twenty sixteen.
I think more people actually act like Donald Trump, like you know,
Joe Biden, you know, the serious people are back in charge. And
you see him on this video going Anytime Pal, you know, like he's
trying to out Trump Trump basically, and I don't think it works for them,
but we'll see what happens. Like the Shane Gillis thing that reminds me
of that President Biden is the only president that you could punch assassinate. Like
everyone else you have to shoot, but that one you could just punch assassinate
it. He would not handle a punch. Well, I can't. I
wish it never works if you can't do the Trump impression. But he was
talking about how Trump, even if they tried to assassinate him, they chewed
him and they'd be like, you're gay. You're both gay, all right.
Shane goes he's a new show by the way, called Tires. Oh.
I will check that out because I find him very funny. I did
want to say that I also am confused at how you can have debates between
Biden and Trump before they've become the actual nominees of their back. That's another
thing I wanted to say, Why do you agree to a debate so early
where it maybe won't even make that much of a difference, or maybe we're
being silly and it's like, of course, now that we start voting in
July, you should have a debate in June because Democrats have so weakened election
integrity that people are starting to get their ballots like literally months ahead of the
election. So that was one of the problems in twenty twenty is that they
held debates after millions of people have voted. Not good. Well, that's
a good point. It's election season, not really election day anymore, so
I guess it makes some sense. Though I would only have agreed to an
early debate if I knew that I could have a late debate as well.
Do you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I feel like it should have
been an agreement for three. First of all, Joe Biden only wants to
do two. I think. Usually it's three, right, Yeah, usually
you do three, at least three, I think. And last time they
did two. They dropped the foreign policy debate because Donald Trump. Those one
of their arguments of like The Atlantic and other propaganda outlets was that Donald Trump
was bad for foreign policy and Joe Biden would be fantastic. But now I
really hope that both debates cover foreign policy, because I know, like not
everybody cares about foreign policy as much as I do, but the track record
disparities here are shocking and amazing and should be highlighted. I think blink and
one of those guys said the other day that, yeah, he feels like
the world is in a better place now that Joe Biden is president. It's
just like mind boggling that you could even see he doesn't believe that. I
don't even understand how Joe Biden's going to make the argument that the foreign policy
is in a better place today than it was then. I don't even know
how you can lie your way into a conversation about that. Is the Middle
East better? Is Europe better? What is better? I think that the
military industrial complex might be better, Like, obviously the national security of this
country is it's not healthy. We're not in a good place. But if
I think there's an argument that the permanent d C is feeling very happy with
Biden's foreign policy, they feel like there's money to be made or even like
power to hold, and that they're yeah, I think they're very happy,
so that in fact, it might be disorienting for a Democrat or other operative
in DC. To hear you say that, they'd be like, of course
things are better. Things were bad when we were telling Europe to handle more
of their defense, or when we were pivoting away from all of these institutions
that we had built up carefully to funnel money to our children for generational wealth,
to pivot from that to China, Like that wasn't good for d C.
It was good for America. It's good for Americans, but it's not
good for DC. So he'll be able to make that argument. You know,
I debate people on Israel. You know, I debate people on Israel,
and I'll say I'll just point out the facts, and they'll say,
actually, you're wrong. Joe Biden is the greatest defender of Israel in American
history, And so it's like a post truth world where no matter what you
say, they'll just say the opposite, and I think they sometimes believe what
they're saying actually, So it just gets very confusing and just slightly off topic.
Anecdotally, I will say that this whole Israel thing and Joe Biden's support
of Hamas functional support of Hamas and stuff. I've had a lot of people
I know who are sort of left leaning people or Democrats or folks who don't
like Donald Trump. Tell me that that is kind of the they become never
Biden. I'm not sure they're going to vol vote for Trump, and who
knows what happens in the next few months. But you know, there are
a lot of people because of foreign policy who I know who have kind of
changed their mind about Biden and Democrats. So we'll see how that goes.
We'll see if that is reflected in the polling, which we need to talk
about. Are we ready to do that? We are, sorry, I
promise you we can go to that now. Hey, this is why we're
here. We want to hear you. Do you notice getting an uptick in
mail from people who are like, you should do this podcast every day?
Yeah, maybe we could be more efficient about it if we did it,
like, maybe not every day, but maybe twice a week. I'm not
sure this is so weird conversation for us to be having on air, but
I will say that, yeah, I think maybe if we had shorter ones,
more times a week, you know, But I have to say,
you know, at least one of us has an incredibly busy schedule, so
it's difficult to plan. But yeah, okay, every day sounds like a
lot of work. I'd be willing to do it, of course, but
I have to be shorter ten minute podcasts. Okay, moving on though.
That's how it works internally. We should just pops up with an idea and
we're like, oh, scrambling, that's just kidding. What was I talking
about? Oh? So the polling now tons of poles. Not every poll,
but tons of poles now, I mean, I think it's it's just
there's overwhelming evidence that Joe Biden's in trouble. You know, you're not just
national polls, which mean nothing to me, but statewide polls in swing in
you know, purplish swing states Michigan, Pennsylvania, Arizona, Georgia, Virginia
have Trump sometimes considerably ahead, but mostly it's still close. I would say,
but but you know, there are some underlying numbers that I find somewhat
suspect. Tell me if you agree with this. Basically, one of these
polls, I'm sorry, I forget which polls, but one of the New
York Times, Sienna something like that. I think it was a New York
Time whatever, New York Times polling because they partner with someone, but they
had young voters, you know, like fifty to fifty. I find that
pretty difficult to believe. Do you think that I'm being unduly skeptical. I
don't know what to say, because I'm kind of a pole skeptic in general,
poles have a problem of historically undercounty Republicans. Is one reason why I
tend to be skeptical polls. Another reason is that I don't I think that,
even in so far as polls accurately measure public opinion, public opinion is
no longer the way that elections are won or lost. So if you look,
for instance, in the midterms last year, the polling was pretty accurate,
and if we were running elections like we ran elections in the eighties,
it would have been an unbelievable landslide for Republicans. But Democrats are smart enough
to understand that if you traffic ballots from low information potential voters, people who
may not know there's an election going on, or who the candidates are,
whether they're alive or you know, like, you can just get ballots to
addresses and get those ballots back to the ballot box, and that's how you
win elections. So the approval ratings that Joe Biden has right now should be
leading to a nineteen eighty style blowout like we saw with Reagan. It won't
because of these ballot traffic operations. But that's a little different than the particulars
of whether young people are fifty to fifty. I think part of the reason
why it could show fifty to fifty is a general lack of support for either
candidate. So I absolutely believe young people do not like Joe Biden, and
why would they. Yeah, again, anecdotally, I know some young people
who are attached to my family and they view Biden sort of as a clownish
boomer, you know, not anyone serious. There's none of that idealism you
saw with Obama or even you know, the idealism you see with Trump.
So I think that hurts them as well, with young people who are not
typically that interested in politics are voting anyway. And then on top of it,
you have this, you know, stuff going on in Israel, and
I think that even the people who are Prohamas are chanting genocide. Joe.
I don't think that hurts Donald Trump. They were never going to vote for
Donald Trump, but it might actually hurt Biden on the margins, I think,
But I just wanted to go over some other numbers. I think we're
pretty interesting. And that's so. It's a New York Times Siena College poll,
and one of the main differences from now today from like twenty sixteen and
even twenty twenty is black and Hispanic young black and Hispanic voters, who especially
many of the Latino voters are working class voters. So you know, they
don't care about student loan forgiveness. They care about inflation, I'm assuming,
and high interest rates that do not allow you to buy a home, for
instance, and stuff like that. Yeah. I mean, I just feel
like we have a really weird situation where everybody kind of knows what the economy
was like under Trump. In fact, they know exactly what it was like
prior to the COVID pandemic being unleashed, and then they know what it's been
like under Biden, and there's really no comparison. And people in DC might
wish that people were voting for all sorts of arcane reasons, but the economy
is actually a big reason why people choose the candidate of their choice, and
there's no comparison, Like the media are doing this thing where they're like things
are great economically under Biden, and then they get upset that people aren't believing
it. But it's just hard to believe the media, not just because they
lie about everything, but because we all go to the store, we all
try to buy houses, we all like fill our gas tank, we all
know what's going on. I sometimes think people, let me take a step
back. So I think a lot of those stories, the people writing them
are illiterate about economics. They talk about the inflation rate year to year without
mentioning the compounding price spikes that are still with us, which matter. You
know me, I like hand over my credit card. I don't know what
anything costs typically, and even I go to supermarket and I'm like, boy,
that's crazy. You know, everything seems expensive and there's just no getting
around that. Gas is more expensive every you know, your energy bills are
more expensive. So that's reflected in polls. I will say that a lot
of these polls are really close, Like in Wisconsin, it has Biden leading
with registered voters, but Trump leading with likely voters. So there's a lot
of that kind of stuff going on. It no Biden leads in Wisconsin among
registered voters, Trump leads among likely voters. That's weird, right, It's
usually it is because like Democrats, Democrats are great at finding the votes,
finding ballots, and getting those ballots into the ballot box. So I feel
like there's all I'm sorry. There's a big upside and opportunity for Republicans to
start doing some of the ballot harvesting that Democrats have perfected in recent years,
but that does require organization and smarts. I do wonder that if there's automatic
voter registration, like for you at the DMV or stuff in some states,
and I do wonder if maybe that plays into a lot of people well voting.
There are there's definitely an issue in certain states. I think Nevada being
one of them. But Wisconsin is very interesting because it had like a real
progressive revolution one hundred years ago, and so they have in their constitution that
you have the right not to vote. That's amazing, yeah, which is
yeah, yeah, But they were directical statement. Yeah, so they were
so into direct democracy that they really cared about different voting roles. But one
of them was something that's hurt democrats, which is you have the right not
to vote. I mean, not voting is a political statement in the same
way voting is so forcing people to vote as they do in Australia and some
other countries, it is just completely illiberal. Anyway, last thing I'd like
to say is that Trump, in other various polls, is leading in Georgia,
Nevada, Arizona, Pennsylvania, Nevada. In one of the Nevada polls
I saw he was a big which is zoom, has a lot to do
with the Latino working class vote and stuff like that. But yeah, I
don't know. Well, I again, I assume I would assume that in
a free and fair election in Nevada that Trump and other Republicans would just crush
it again, and we have a story about it up this week. Nevada
is one of the best places for Democrat ballot harvesting, including that they allow
votes to come in after election day and so they can kind of like just
wait and see what they need and then get the number of votes in that
they need in order to secure victory. And they've got these union groups that
are willing to do some ballot trafficking in Clark County, which is where Vegas
is. It's just a brilliant plan for Democrats. Don't hate the player,
hate the game. Let's talk a little bit about the Senate. If that's
okay. I haven't really taken a deep dive. I know that West Virginia,
you know, will probably be turned Republican. And Maryland. Let's talk
about Maryland. So there was this guy named David Tron or Tron, I
don't know how to pronounce it, who was running in the Democratic primary against
a woman named Angela also Brooks. He lost sixty million dollars in a primary
in Maryland, which is a relatively small state. That's insane. How do
you even I don't know, Molly, if I could do that, if
I tried to do that. So I don't think Maryland is as small as
you're making it out. It's more like kind of a difficult state with many
different media markets. But yes, he spent sixty million dollars in lost.
But I do want to point out that everything is working according to my plan
here. So back when Larry Hogan and Chris Christy and we're making runs for
the presidency, I wrote a piece saying that if they love their country,
they should run for Senate instead of running for the presidency. There was zero
market for them in the Republican presidential contest, Like their only function really is
to be never Trump types in a media environment. But Larry Hogan was a
very popular governor of Maryland as a Republican, he should he was like clearly
not ideologically, am I saying this, but ido but for other reasons was
the best idea for who to run for Senate as the Republican this year.
So he did it. So that's first, first off, good for him
for actually doing it. And then because Trone lost to this also Brooks,
Lady Trone was not just going to spend sixty million dollars winning the primary.
He was going to spend he was going to self fund for the general,
which meant that Democrats didn't have to pour any money into the race. But
now that also Brooks won the Democrat nomination, Democrats have to fight for this
race. And if she's kind of I think she's still you know, favored
and all that, and that means that they can't spend that money in Pennsylvania
and Arizona. And so it's it's actually a really interesting situation beyond just how
embarrassing it is for David Trown that he lost sixty million dollars and he was
the more progressive. He was like a prog right, he was progressive guy.
Far left. No, I think Angela also Brooke is the one that
is. Yeah, I mean they're all kind of they're all left wingers,
but yeah, I mean I'm with you, you know, people, I
get why Republicans get mad at Susan Collins and people like that, but you
know, you do the best you can do in in states like that,
and most of you know, the important thing for the Senate is getting the
majority, and then you dictate the agenda and you can stop the president if
it's Joe Biden. And that's the point, right, So you're not going
to run conservatives in Maryland. They're not going to win. They were barely
you know, they're they're yeah place, it's the liberal state. So so
I just realized David Trone was the co founder of Total Wine and that he
was in his third term in Congress representing Maryland sixth district, which is congressman
the westernmost part of the state. I was just I was going to make
a point about how many of these you know, oo democracy, progressive self
fund their campaign with tons of money, like Jared Polis in Colorado, who
I knew when he was just this activist guy and he had a group that
wanted to take money out of politics, and then when that didn't work,
he just funded every campaign and bought the governorship of Colorado. Basically America wonderful
country. Yes, may so you had a piece up on Federalist dot com
today. Can you tell us a little bit about it? Yeah. I
thought it was an interesting story about when you look at the Department of Justice
and how corrupt it is and how much its reputation has just traded, and
you kind of wonder, like, what's been going on with their Inspector General
office. The Inspector General Office is supposed to root out corruption in the department.
In reality, it's more like in a corporate HR office, you know,
something that just exists to make problems go away, kind of. But
I thought it was interesting that for a lot of Americans, when they look
at the Trump DOJ, they might have fine thoughts about it, but they
probably really wish that the Trump DOJ had been far more aggressive in rooting out
election problems in twenty twenty, like in advance of the election. Like you
see the DOJ for Biden right now is suing Iowa over some election integrity measure,
Like they have no qualms about coming in and just doing whatever it takes
to make elections less secure, and they do it under the guise of the
Civil Rights Office. You also wish maybe that the Trump DOJ had done far
more to deal with some of the bad policies that were enacted by governors during
COVID, such as like the policy that Cuomo and other Democrat governors had of
putting people with COVID in state run nursing homes. You might remember that was
like a big deal in New York. Lied about it, and that's a
civil rights violation that was and so for no reason. Yeah, so the
Trump DOJ didn't really do much, but they did announce that they were going
to investigate some of these things. And so the IG, the Inspector General,
the Internal watchdog, is doing nothing about DOJ's like Russia collusion scams,
or their participation in the mar A Lago raid, or like law fair against
Republicans, like they're just doing nothing. But they are investigating Bill Barr and
other Trump appointees merely for noting, like noting that there were some discarded ballots
found in Pennsylvania in the summer of twenty twenty. Can you remember that there
were some Trump ballots that were okay? So they kind of publicly acknowledged that
they were aware of that, that they were looking into it, and the
dojig is going after them for it. Likewise, they announced that they were
looking for more information from like Cuomo and other governors who had done some of
these bad COVID policies, and for that crime of just like letting people know,
yeah, we're looking into it, which is a common thing you do
on civil rights issues and other things like that, the IG is going after
them. So the IG, first of all, on the election thing,
they're going to say, oh, you didn't break any law and you didn't
violate any guidance, but you showed bad judgment. And then they're working on
doing a similar type thing for the announcement of the nursing home thing. Well,
my piece today looks at four of the people that are at the IG's
office, and it looks at they're giving record people who are involved in this
or other anti Trump investigations their public giving records which go one hundred percent for
Democrats. Their track record of working on some of the craziest most left wing
cases in like Obama history, actually working at different at that time. They
were working in different parts of the Department of Justice and actually helping, for
instance, sue schools who didn't let boys use girls' bathrooms or suing states that
require identification in order to vote. Some of these people have moved on to
even though the reports haven't been released yet, some of these people have moved
on to crazy left wing groups. And in one instance, I looked at
the thirteen hundred likes on this one lady's social media accounts. So she's supposed
to be investigating bar and other Trump appointees, you know, showing that they
had bad judgment. This woman's social media history is like if Rachel Maddow was
having like an LSD fever dream. She is so crazy, like full of
just visceral hatred towards Bar. She comments on ongoing investigations at the DOJ.
She shows hatred for Trump appointees while she's working for them. She praises Joe
Biden, you know these in her likes. You know, it's like uniformly
pro Democrat and anti Republican, and it's every Republican. Yeah it's Trump,
Yeah it's bar It's also like Mitch McConnell. I mean, there's not a
Republican that she has even like the slightest fond feeling toward. And with the
Democrats, she's like, she likes tweets that say like Hakeem Jeffries is the
best person ever, and Nancy Pelosi is one smart lady. And then it'll
be like Trump people should be shot and killed, and she's like, like,
you know, on her social media, these are the people who're supposed
to investigate Bill Barr and other Trump appointees. Are you kidding me? Right
now? And then finally, I also noted who the individual was. So
you might not remember this, but in twenty twenty one of Oh, by
the way, that lady that I just talked about is supposedly an expert in
prosecuting leaks, like she was in that role during the leak deluge of the
Trump administration. I think we might know why things didn't go so well on
the leak investigations. But anyway, there was this other person who worked at
the IG's office, and you know, like their profiles of him in his
Stanford Law School alumni magazine or whatever that said, like he decided to go
to law school because he lived in DC in two thousand and one and he
saw all of the anti Muslim hatred. I was like, I lived in
DC, and I have no idea what you're talking about, buddy. That
his like proudest moment on campus was protesting Bush appointees that were speaking there.
You know, like he's one of those kind of left wingers. His dad
used to run the Oregon Democrat Party and he was working on an investigation into
the zero tolerance policy, which is that even if you trap children across the
border, if you're breaking the law by crossing the border, you'll be prosecuted.
And of course, this was hugely controversial during the Trump administration, and
the report was not slated to come out before the election. It was slated
to come out after the election, and in fact it did was officially released
after the election. But he wanted it to affect the twenty twenty election,
so he called up his buddies at the New York Times and NBC News and
he leaked it to them so that he could he could help his preferred political
candidate Joe Biden win. And it took a lot of pressure. I didn't
even get into this in the story. It took a lot of pressure to
get anyone to investigate this leak because it was actually coming from within the watchdog
office. Like, clearly the leak happened from the people who were supposed to
be rooting out corruption and leaks and problems. So they finally investigate it and
they discover it's this guy and that he had had all this contact with these
reporters and they tell him, like, we know it's you, and he
says it was not me, and they were like, okay, well could
you say in this document saying that it's not you? And he was like,
instead, I will quit on the spot and go work for a top
democrat in the House. And now he's like completely underground, so I assume
that he's working for like one of the Get Trump operations across the country.
But anyway, my piece goes into that and it names names. And I've
gotten so many notes this morning from people who are like, it is so
valuable that you named names because these people are so unaccountable. Oh. One
of the tweets that this lady liked was a tweet saying Bill Barr promotes a
myth of an unaccountable DOJ official, and it was like, oh, okay,
so trying to hold these people accountable by naming them, showing who they
are and how they have very poor judgment to rule that other people are showing
bad judgment. It is a great piece. People should read it. Good
job, Molly, thank you remind me a little bit about how And actually
this is a good segue into just to quickly say, I like Bill Barr
a lot, I feel from what I know. I've never met him or
anything, but he seems to call shots as they are. I mean,
he'll call out Trump if he doesn't like what Trump's doing, and he calls
out Dems for what they're doing. And it just seems a rarity in either
party that you get someone like that. Am I wrong? I think?
I mean, I've been on the record calling him like the only adult in
Washington. I felt like some of what he did, and I know I
understand how frustrating it might be to deal with Donald Trump. Oh. I
also want to say his biography is fantastic and a really fun and good read,
and he's pretty good about like not taking things personally. Did you see
the recent tweet where Donald Trump was saying that since Bill Barr has endorsed him
for president, that he's officially removing one of the insults he uses against him
with a which is lethargic. So, I mean, I have my own
criticisms. I wish he would had done I think he knew that the election
was going to be fraught with problems and he should have done more. But
part of what my piece is looking at is how even when you don't even
really do that much, they all fight you from the inside. And so
our problem with DOJ is that it needs to be completely done away with.
It is just a completely corrupt organization. Having someone with his courage and his
wisdom is not sufficient even if he has a small handful of people working with
him. But then also I felt like it just sort of like sticks in
my craw that he was like, yeah, they've been they've been trying to
destroy Trump with ridiculous conspiracy theories for years. But I think this classified document
one like that's on the up and up, and it's like, we're going
to need you to be smarter here, Like that clearly was not on the
up and up, and thank god, there's like a judge who has resisted
unbelievable pressure from corporate media and other Democrats to kind of show that that was
not on the up and up, with the DOJ admitting last week that they
had mishandled or tampered with the evidence in that case. And Bill Barr should
have known to not just be like uncritically accepting whatever these partisans say when they're
you know, in a way no more than I accept what they and what
they're saying about him right now, right, but yeah, generally favorable.
Yeah, okay, Well, so draining the swamp, that's a great slogan,
you know, and it's something that we should aspire to do, or
any president should aspire to do. But the problem is, it's almost impossible.
Do you agree with that? I mean, like you say, even
the smallest change, there's an entire storm of media coverage of people resisting change
within DC. It's dislodging those people who actually run the country more than any
politician is virtually impossible. I mean, you have to be it has to
be the project of your presidency, and you have to be willing to like
go to war with these people. So I was watching Aaron Rodgers last night
on Tucker Did you see that interview? I saw. I did not see
the interview now, but one of the things Aaron Rodgers says is like he
actually kind of likes Trump, but what he doesn't like is that he promised
to drain the swamp and he didn't. And I'm like, okay, fair,
I hear people say this all the time, and I'm like, also
familiar with things like what I just told you about that if you so much
as acknowledge the reality that ballots were dumped in Pennsylvania, they're going to come
after you and that like that's the environment for everybody in the administration, not
to mention, they will alsole they accuse you of being a trader who stole
the election, and wrap you up in law fair and then they're going to
try and imprison you, like for just for what Trump did, which was
kind of exposing how corrupt DC was. They're trying to kill him, Like
that's clearly what they're trying to do. And so when people are like,
he didn't fix everything that had been built up through hundreds of years or one
hundred years of progressives trying to destroy the Constitution. It's like, you're right,
he didn't fix everything in the four years when he got here, and
had no idea that, for instance, the establishment Republican Party would not be
working with him but against him. Like, I don't think we all expected
that so much. Yeah, I don't think you're giving it. I don't
think you're placing enough blame on him. Though. There's a lot of incompetence
there in the sense of bringing people with you who are going to help you,
who are competent. You know, it seems like he has a better
handle on that this time, and maybe he was hope wasn't prepared, But
there's a lot of things that you know. Of course, politicians promise things
that they don't do them. But he brought people who who didn't like him,
who hated him. Basically, I'm not saying you shouldn't have people who
oppose you in the administration, but you also need people you can trust that
are going to follow through and do the things that you asked him to do.
I'm not sure how I do not want to give them. I think
I've said it before. His greatest failing was impersonnel, and there's got to
be a massive change in that. But it's also even if you had like
a perfect staff, it's almost an impossible task. And he definitely did not
have a perfect staff. He had close to the opposite, and a lot
of that is on him. Yeah, I think Reagan came in and brought
an army, and you got to do that. And even even that didn't
really work right, there are a lot of people within the cabinet who didn't
really believe in what Reagan was doing, you know what I mean. So,
and he brought a lot of people with him, so it is an
immense task. It does remind me in a weird way of what goes on
which I mentioned numerous times on the show, where a Republican will do something
completely normal and legal and it will be framed as something devious and illegal by
the press and by other people in the government. And I'll give you an
example of that now, which I know you know is happening. Donald Trump
is a gag order. He literally can't say anything about this law fair that's
going on, this ridiculous case in New York that Alvin Bragg is putting on.
So other Republicans have starts showing up as proxies speaking and saying the things
that probably Donald Trump wants to say. And there a memo went out across
media to frame it as some kind of crazy, devious, democracy corroding effort
by people to involve themselves and undermine the judicial process. So it's not the
unique legal theories that are just preposterous that even many liberals admit are ridiculous in
New York, that's the problem with the judicial system. It's people going to
defend the president or the former president of the United States. So I thought
it was really interesting how upset people got over Republicans speaking out against Democrat lawfair,
and it shows the importance of Republicans speaking out against Democrat lawfare. So
one of these tweets was from the chief political reporter for the Associated Press,
which is a prominent Democrat propaganda outlet, and it's from Yes Steve Peoples,
and he says he's talking about how Speaker of the House Mike Johnson went to
speak against Democrat law fair, and he says the appearance of the House Speaker,
second in the line of succession to the president is a politically stunning and
significant show of Republican support for the indicted Trump coming from the highest levels of
party power. Johnson is using the powerful pulpit of the Speaker's office to attack
and tear down the US judicial system. And I was like, what in
the world you can use courts to try to destroy political opponents and you will
be praised by Steve Peoples and the Associated Press if you speak out against the
destruction a rule of law and turning us you speak out against turning us into
a third world banana republic or like a Putinesque system, then you're the one
who's attacking and tearing down the judicial system. And then I saw McKay coppins,
who is like Romney's personal aid but works at the Atlantic, and he
said Trump effectively requiring every Republican who wants a big job in his administration to
come defend him outside the courthouse during his quote hush money to cover up an
affair with a porn star quote trial is a real indicator of where American conservatism
stands. And I was like, you know what, every single journalist in
America knows that this New York City show trial is a horrendous attack on our
country's rule of law, every single one, including McKay coppins. And if
they enable or otherwise soft pedal what's going on there. They're actively harming the
country. But it was just like so interesting. They got real freaked out,
like in order, like everyone knows this is a show trial. When
the indictments came down, even people like McKay coppins admitted it, right,
But now that it's the only means by which they might secure a convey against
Trump, now they're like having to pretend like it's a real thing. They
haven't even shown a crime. They haven't shown evidence of a crime. Like
Byron NewYork keeps pointing out, they keep showing evidence of things that aren't in
dispute, but they haven't actually shown evidence of a crime. I don't think
that's a barrier to a New York City juror convicting Trump. Obviously, you
pick a New York City venue precisely, precisely so that your show trial can
secure a quick and easy conviction. But yeah, the reporters are real mad.
The journalists are real mad because like they suddenly realized, oh wait,
our dumb audiences are falling for what we're doing, and our cloistered newsrooms are
letting us sit here and talk about an echo chamber here. But even Mike
Johnson, someone who can be pretty easily controlled by DC, was like up
there because he knows nobody has a future in the country, nobody has a
future in the Republican Party if they don't speak out against destroying rule of law,
Like it's a no brainer. Can I read you? My favorite Aphia
line on this was like this Alvin Bragg's efforts at neutrality to be tested in
Trump trial. Well, it's a real look, Alvin Bragg. Didn't he
brag that he was going to go after Trump in his he's the look deep
Berea of the US, I mean, along with what's her name, Letitia
James, where they were like, we don't know what we're going to get
him on, but we're going to get him. That's not what we do
in America. And I don't see like it shouldn't just be Republicans who want
a b VP or you know. And I, by the way, I
think that's like a stupid talking point that went out that stupid people said,
because I don't think like Tommy Tubberville is like looking to be VP. But
he still was up there being like this is un American because he's a brave
person. He also was out there in front of the Supreme Court when the
Democrats ran their fourteenth Amendment case, and it was also and I think,
I think, you know, I saw him out there and he was kind
of like why why he didn't say this, But I got the feeling of
like he was wondering why he was the person out there, not that he
was the only person, but one of few I mentioned. I tweeted out
like a few days ago that Paula Jones had a settle, you know,
agreed to a settlement with Bill Clinton, which is very similar to this.
You know, the settlement was there to help him win an election, and
people like that's different. That's not hush money, like he keeps saying hush
money like it actually means something like there's some legal value to hush money.
Hush Money's just a thing media came up exactly completely legal, doesn't mean anything.
There is no crime there. Actually, the thing I do find kind
of interesting from this trial is it appears that it appears more like someone was
being blackmailed. And I kind of wondered if Michael Cohen weren't involved in that
blackmail effort. Hope Hicks when she was testifying, said that Michael Cohen called
himself the fixer, but in her experience, he broke things in order so
that he could say he had fixed them. And I was like, Oh,
did he conspire with Smokey McDaniels to do a blackmail operation? Like I
don't know, but just kind of crazy. It is funny that when it's
helpful, it's a porn star to try to make him look bad, but
other times it's sex worker when you taught, or you know whatever, some
other kind of language. Interesting. Yeah, I think that porn star,
which is everyone who's a pornographic actress, which is just really prostitution, is
incentivizing people to go into that business. This is my theory. You should
call them like bureau sex actresses or something like that. Not everyone is a
star, right, I think, like, yeah, d list on screen
prostitute has a different vibe than porn star. Sure. Right. By the
way, one last word on this the goals that we were just talking about,
all of them, these trials have zero impact on anyone. It is
one of the least important things to most people. I don't think they're paying
attention. I personally think actually that they have had an impact. They just
haven't changed in the last six months. Meaning people don't like what Democrats are
doing as a result of their hatred for one man and those who support him,
and they hate destroying our entire system of rule of law more than they
hate that. Donald Trump is stupid for having even been in a position where
he could be blackmailed in this way. You know. Yeah, Okay,
let's talk about culture. I've had I've done some things. First off,
I think last week we talked about how you got me that Yazoo record,
which is wonderful and I've just been having fun listening to it. I had
a friend staying with me this weekend. We saw The Fall Guy. Have
you seen that? The one? No? I have not the movie?
Yeah, no, I heard. I heard It's not great. I loved
it. I thought it was fantastic. I highly recommend it. I like,
I mean, I liked it so much. I don't want to overstate
what it is. It's basically just a movie where you get to see a
lot of stunts. But it had not only did it not have anything woke
in it. The only woke thing it had was when a bad actor used
wokeness to try to get out of taking responsibility for what they had done.
Like it was so by that, I mean that it was basically anti woke
and it's got some violence, it's got some Yeah, it's you know,
some drug use, but like in a kind of funny way. But it
was really really well done, and it just kind of reminded me of those
stupid movies you'd go see when you were a teenager that maybe don't stick with
you till the end of time, but like make for a very enjoyable evening.
Wow, Okay, great. I mean that seems like something I'll probably
catch on Netflix or whatever, but I have some interest in it because I
actually am old enough that I watched the show when it was on with Lee
Majors. Yeah, and I want to stay till the very end. Oh
okay, that's a spoiler. So Also, what's the Ryan Gossling. Yeah
it was great. Yeah, I think he's pretty good in everything he does.
Yeah, he's utterly delightful. So and then I also watched Footloose for
the first original for the first time. I was like very familiar with the
movie, but I don't think i'd ever seen it, and I couldn't get
a really It should not work as a movie. It is so absurdly cliche
written, you know, bad, like the preacher was a preacher in this
town. They're burning books and they don't love be banned dancing. They banned
dancing. It's so bad, and yet it's really well