1 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:27,399 Hey, everybody, it's not Tuesday. It is Friday. For BombCast Revengeance. 2 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:31,280 I'm your host, Jeff Grubb from giant bomb dot com, joined by 3 00:00:31,359 --> 00:00:36,039 two very special people from Giant Bomb to More Hussein and Lucy James. How's 4 00:00:36,039 --> 00:00:43,600 it going, Tam going well, I'm excited to be on the Revengeance glad 5 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:47,000 to have you. We are gonna have you. Catch us up on urge 6 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:51,159 tree, give us some more thoughts on that. And then Lucy meanwhile, 7 00:00:51,399 --> 00:00:55,359 how them hobbits, what them hobbits do? What them hobbits do? Indeed, 8 00:00:55,439 --> 00:00:58,359 Yeah, I played some of Tales of the Shia, so I can 9 00:00:58,439 --> 00:01:00,640 tell you all about that. I also met a Hobbit recently, so this 10 00:01:00,719 --> 00:01:06,280 is a very hobbity episode for me. I'm excited. And then I've decided 11 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:11,319 for like for the second section instead of like doing like some game, because 12 00:01:11,359 --> 00:01:15,879 what I wanted to do was a mount rushmore of UK nineteen eighties and nineteen 13 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,239 nineties computers. Maybe if you guys think it's a good idea, because I'm 14 00:01:19,439 --> 00:01:23,239 really what I want is I want you guys to tell me what computers you 15 00:01:23,239 --> 00:01:25,519 grew up with. And if I were to like go back and look into 16 00:01:25,519 --> 00:01:27,519 this what I should do? No, dog pans, don't do it. 17 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:34,519 You're considerably older than us. I well don't remember what I like, I 18 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:40,560 had something. I had something with Windows ninety five on it. The eighth 19 00:01:40,799 --> 00:01:46,159 I definitely like, I'm interested that too. Okay, what the conversation is, 20 00:01:46,239 --> 00:01:49,760 it's like, were you okay that? That's fantastic? But really what 21 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,480 I want to talk about it is like what you guys were playing while I 22 00:01:53,519 --> 00:01:56,719 was playing Nintendo? Were you playing Nintendo? Or was there like something else 23 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:00,000 that was like big in your place instead? But we can have that conversation. 24 00:02:00,959 --> 00:02:07,120 Let me text Dad James man considerably older, tam No, I'm just 25 00:02:07,159 --> 00:02:14,039 messing. No, it's all good. All right. Let's let's start with 26 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,080 elder Ring. Elder Ring Shadow of the Tree. It's out now, launched 27 00:02:16,199 --> 00:02:21,319 basically yesterday. Today's really the launch day. Whatever. Everyone's playing it. 28 00:02:21,319 --> 00:02:23,719 It is being described by many people as elder Ring two in a lot of 29 00:02:23,759 --> 00:02:27,159 ways. Tim, do you think that's a fair descriptor? I do not 30 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,479 think that's a fair descriptor very interesting. So how would you how would you 31 00:02:30,479 --> 00:02:34,960 describe it to people? I would describe it as DLC for elder Ring. 32 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:43,159 That's you sound you sound like a real asshole. I feel like the way 33 00:02:43,199 --> 00:02:45,719 I say it is that the way I tell people is like they put a 34 00:02:45,759 --> 00:02:51,039 Dog Cells game in elder Ring. In terms of like how that's interesting, 35 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,080 what it's, what it's I feel like that's the best encapsulation of what that 36 00:02:54,240 --> 00:03:00,840 game is, because it feels like it feels like elder Ring, but it's 37 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:06,120 tighter in the way that a Dark Cells game would be. The major difference 38 00:03:06,159 --> 00:03:09,039 between it has you know, a field area and overworld if you want to 39 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:15,319 call it that, but the specific areas that you go into they feel like 40 00:03:15,479 --> 00:03:20,039 interconnected instead of having like you know, pathways that connect each area, there's 41 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:24,080 still Instead it's just all on like the the main map and you just move 42 00:03:24,159 --> 00:03:30,319 between them. So there's like a there's more tissue in between the kind of 43 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:36,120 various muscles of the weird. It's a denser Yeah, it's denser, denser, 44 00:03:36,159 --> 00:03:38,960 but in terms of like also how it's played or like how it plays 45 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:44,520 out, it's roughly thirty hours, which is about the amount of time you'd 46 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:49,800 probably be playing a game like Dark Souls for and yeah, it feels more 47 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:54,400 like a they added a kind of major expansion. I think of it like 48 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:59,479 closer to something like a World of War Cross style expansion minus all the online 49 00:03:59,479 --> 00:04:01,159 stuff, where is like, you know, it's it's me. It's got 50 00:04:01,159 --> 00:04:05,080 a whole new area, it's got new enemies, it's got you know, 51 00:04:05,199 --> 00:04:09,280 items and stuff like that. So for me, it feels like more of 52 00:04:09,319 --> 00:04:12,719 an expansion. But we just don't use the word expansion much anymore these days 53 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,639 unless it's outside of mmo's mms just don't get expansion. Yes, I was 54 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:21,879 just thinking that as well. Yeah, so that's pretty much how I describe 55 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:30,959 it and present it to other people. Adult Souls in Elden Ring, And 56 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,959 we talked about this on game as Mornings today, like a lot of people 57 00:04:32,959 --> 00:04:36,120 are finding it very difficult. I'm it was like challenging for me, but 58 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:40,480 I had to do this thing. So I thought I had a save ready 59 00:04:40,519 --> 00:04:44,800 to go, and apparently I did start New Game Plus and I just forgot 60 00:04:44,959 --> 00:04:46,079 and I did. I must have played it for like a couple hours. 61 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,240 So I started up and I'm like, huh, why don't I have any 62 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,360 these the sights of Grace unlock? There's two sites of Grace here. That 63 00:04:53,399 --> 00:04:56,839 doesn't seem like enough. And then I realized I did the new game plus 64 00:04:56,879 --> 00:04:59,439 thing. So I went and grabbed a save file and I had to do 65 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,319 this whole thing to like inject it into the game. It wasn't too difficult. 66 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,639 That is on if people are like wondering if there's a shortcut to do 67 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:08,360 that, Yeah, yeah it's it's on the like some odd sites, I 68 00:05:08,399 --> 00:05:12,240 think gamers and Nexus or whatever it is. Yeah. Yeah, it's easy 69 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,360 to do and say, yeah, do you still get achievements if you do 70 00:05:15,399 --> 00:05:18,399 that? Yeah, because it's like it's just a safe stay. Yeah, 71 00:05:18,399 --> 00:05:23,959 it's just the same. Yeah. It's also like it doesn't ping any service 72 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,399 or anything like that, so you won't get banned for it or anything like 73 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:32,519 Exactly, I could have done this instead of killing killing the Little Modern Palace. 74 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:38,079 Yeah huh. But I feel like if you're I recommend it, if 75 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:42,839 you're someone that has played a bunch of it and feel confident, Yeah, 76 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,360 if you have, that's my issue. Yeah. If you haven't and you 77 00:05:45,439 --> 00:05:49,800 just grab a save file and go in, you you you have, you've 78 00:05:49,879 --> 00:05:54,600 cheated yourself and the game where you what happened to me? Yeah, even 79 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,120 to someone who I beat the game, I played one hundred and fifty hours. 80 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,759 I've been playing really in two years, and I'm playing a couple of 81 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:01,600 care through that is very different than the character. I'm used to a magic 82 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:05,120 casting character, and now I'm in there with with very much not that a 83 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:09,800 strength build, it seems like mostly and I was like the first mini boss 84 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:11,680 that came across, I was really struggling. Yeah, that's the thing. 85 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,079 I couldn't get the I could get the timing down on it. Yeah, 86 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,519 so it was rough. You want you want the muscle memory to kick in 87 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,959 again and warm up, you know, the sharpness around how to tackle, 88 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:25,240 and also like the mentality. It's a different way to play games. And 89 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,839 I feel like if you just jump in aften not playing for you know, 90 00:06:28,399 --> 00:06:33,120 since the original release, you will get kicked about a bit. So like 91 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,759 if you're if but if you're the kind of person who's like I played these 92 00:06:35,759 --> 00:06:39,959 games, I'm very confident in this. I just accidentally went into New Game 93 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,240 plus or I lost my savee wile then it's then it's fine, like and 94 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,120 there's yeah, there's files out there that are like, hey, I've collected 95 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,079 every single thing in the game. I've there's that seems to be with this. 96 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:53,360 Yeah, there's a bunch of Larval tires. So you can also just 97 00:06:53,439 --> 00:06:57,600 respect by going to Ranala in Rylacaria, and then you're good. You've got 98 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,839 you can set up your own build and you're good to go. It was 99 00:07:00,879 --> 00:07:05,040 somebody said that they didn't add any achievements in a tree. I don't think 100 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:11,519 so. I don't remember anything popping up. I think, oh, yeah, 101 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,199 yeah, didn't didn't have achievements, so that means I still got I 102 00:07:14,199 --> 00:07:17,439 still got a platinum baby. Because I wondered, like, as I was 103 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,680 playing, if they just hadn't turned the one yet because we were playing release. 104 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,240 I don't think they have any I don't know if they have any on 105 00:07:26,639 --> 00:07:30,920 isn't there a requisite prerequisite on like PlayStation or something? Yeah, I console. 106 00:07:30,959 --> 00:07:36,800 I thought it's like, well maybe not, fore it's definitely expected by 107 00:07:36,839 --> 00:07:39,959 a lot of fans. I think, so they'll probably there will probably be 108 00:07:39,959 --> 00:07:44,439 some people wanting about that, but uh yeah, it's I'll say that. 109 00:07:44,519 --> 00:07:46,000 Once I started to get the hang of things though there at the end it 110 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,959 did take about an hour playing. After I kindly got the thing installed and 111 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,800 got past that thing, it was like, okay, I'm I'm feeling this. 112 00:07:51,959 --> 00:07:55,519 I could also just tell this it is kind of difficult. It is 113 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,079 challenging, more challenging than I was expecting. Even on Elden Ring, I 114 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,319 definitely considered to be a challenging game. I could see them like really, 115 00:08:01,399 --> 00:08:03,680 and it's the way you described it, Tam. It's not just like density 116 00:08:03,319 --> 00:08:07,439 of content and that connective tissue. I think they're just like, they really 117 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:11,199 want to give you the difficult to Dark Souls experience right away and they're not 118 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,920 going to hold it back. So but I'm excited about it by that. 119 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:18,959 That is something I'm finding very enticing. Yeah, it still has a very 120 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:22,839 manageable difficulty curve. You know, difficult is relative. So if you're the 121 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,279 kind of person that never has completed these games, are you don't get on 122 00:08:26,399 --> 00:08:31,439 with them. Nothing's changed. But even though it's difficult, if you have 123 00:08:31,519 --> 00:08:33,159 played the original game or played Dark Souls, you'll be fine. Like they 124 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:39,360 they don't just crank up the difficulty and like leave you to it and it's 125 00:08:39,519 --> 00:08:43,039 hard. Because of that. There's actual thought and design put into the way 126 00:08:43,279 --> 00:08:48,639 the difficulty works, and it's reflected in the way enemies ramp up, and 127 00:08:48,039 --> 00:08:52,519 there's a whole delicate science to the way these make these games. They make 128 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:56,080 these games that is that goes far beyond they just made it harder. It's 129 00:08:56,120 --> 00:09:01,080 like they made it harder, but they do that knowing how to do it 130 00:09:01,159 --> 00:09:05,080 while making it achievable for pretty much everyone, as long as you're willing to 131 00:09:05,159 --> 00:09:09,720 persevere and engage it in the way that they kind of outline they want to 132 00:09:09,759 --> 00:09:16,360 create the template for the ninety five on Metacritic. Not that it matters too 133 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:20,080 much, but I was pretty impressed by that. You think it earned that, 134 00:09:20,159 --> 00:09:22,200 You think it's like the highest rate of games of all time. Yeah. 135 00:09:22,399 --> 00:09:26,440 I think the thing that's going to be the discussion this year is is 136 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,840 it legible for Game of the Year? Yeah? And it happened. Yeah, 137 00:09:28,879 --> 00:09:35,159 And like from my personal perspective, I don't see why not. I 138 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:41,759 think we talked about Cyberpunk when Phantom Liberty came out as potential well yeah, 139 00:09:41,799 --> 00:09:45,399 it was on our top ten, but we discussed it as if it could 140 00:09:45,399 --> 00:09:48,720 have been. You know, it was in the running to potentially get Game 141 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,200 of the Year for us. So from a Game Spot perspective, Elden Ringshadow 142 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:56,720 of the Ear Tree is going to be in contention. I do wonder if 143 00:09:56,759 --> 00:09:58,759 it's the same for like, you know, the one that people really think 144 00:09:58,799 --> 00:10:03,200 of as prestigious and the others like you know, the game awards and that 145 00:10:03,279 --> 00:10:07,840 kind of stuff, that one's a bit trickier. I think if they go 146 00:10:07,039 --> 00:10:11,120 based on if we go based on like previous years, I don't think they 147 00:10:11,159 --> 00:10:20,240 accept the d l C as a Game of the year contenter can't remember ongoing 148 00:10:20,279 --> 00:10:26,120 game, right, So yeah, yeah, I don't think they don't like 149 00:10:26,159 --> 00:10:31,639 the community one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that is like for me, 150 00:10:31,759 --> 00:10:37,559 I think that's I said the same with Cyberpunk, was like, it's 151 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,480 the scale of things these days are so significant that I think that we need 152 00:10:41,519 --> 00:10:46,039 to reassess what DLC really is and consider each one in its own merits. 153 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:50,200 I think that this is the thought in these kind of scenarios is very outdated, 154 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:54,200 where DLC is still treated as you know, we've added another gun, 155 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,519 or we've added some armor to it, or you know that kind of thing, 156 00:10:56,519 --> 00:11:03,360 whereas this is a game that was made across multiple years and features a 157 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:11,639 significant content addition injection and even has a little bit of an overhaul on the 158 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:15,960 previous content. So I would I would think like that would warrant and merit 159 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,279 looking at it as its own thing again, and like I said, I 160 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:26,399 thought the same for Cyberpunk as well. Yeah, Lucy, so you've been 161 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:31,960 playing How deep into the DLC are you? That is difficult to say. 162 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:37,000 I have done more than I did in the three hour preview session, right 163 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:39,759 but I spent a lot of time at the very beginning because I felt I 164 00:11:39,799 --> 00:11:43,440 was under leveled. I just explored a bunch, so I definitely found a 165 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:48,960 couple of areas that I was not supposed to. I think of about ten 166 00:11:50,039 --> 00:11:54,720 or so hours in I because I was I started a new save on PC 167 00:11:56,279 --> 00:12:00,679 in my because I'm afraid I'm an elite gamer now, and I'm of course, 168 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:09,320 yeah, I'm afraid of that too. Genuinely, I'm playing my I 169 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:13,039 haven't had a single I restarted it a few weeks ago before we did the 170 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:18,440 preview session, so I already had a run, and I have my little 171 00:12:18,519 --> 00:12:26,519 Fucker builds on my des Bleed poison Rot build. So I've been kind of 172 00:12:26,519 --> 00:12:31,120 working my way through that, slaying alban Orics right now. I don't want 173 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:39,279 to say where I am, but I've Yeah, how many bosses have you 174 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:43,639 beaten? There's a sixteen total bosses in this or something. Well, let's 175 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,679 say who counts as a boss and who is just like, yeah, I 176 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:52,679 mean sixteen. I think is is because yeah, I've eaten four that have 177 00:12:52,759 --> 00:12:58,120 a big health bar. Mm hmm, okay, yeah those are the Yeah, 178 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:03,639 but no think No, I don't think I have because I've I've explored 179 00:13:03,919 --> 00:13:07,600 and one of them was definitely not like I didn't. I did not have 180 00:13:07,639 --> 00:13:09,840 to beat that dragon. Oh yeah, no you don't. You don't have 181 00:13:09,879 --> 00:13:11,919 to fight all of them at all. Yeah, there's some optional bosses, 182 00:13:13,399 --> 00:13:18,399 so it's like a beaten four with a big health bar. But I don't 183 00:13:18,159 --> 00:13:22,600 because I like, I won't be able to see it as a linear kind 184 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:26,440 of like my the way that I've tackled the game millennially until I finished it, 185 00:13:26,519 --> 00:13:30,039 so I really have no idea where I am and I know, Yeah, 186 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:35,440 it's like core bosses that are like, hey, these are linked to 187 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,240 story in a meaningful big way, and you don't have to beat all of 188 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,240 them. You can. It's the same as with you know, the main 189 00:13:41,279 --> 00:13:45,519 game. You don't have to get you can only you can defeat two of 190 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,720 the the main game is like one hundred and something. It's like mad yeah, 191 00:13:48,759 --> 00:13:52,360 like like big health. But one of them, though, I will 192 00:13:52,399 --> 00:13:56,159 say, was I basically had a Godzilla let them fight moment because I found 193 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,320 a big dragon and he was getting by a bunch of boys and I literally 194 00:14:01,399 --> 00:14:05,399 just sat on the cliff and watched. But then I felt really mad because 195 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:09,559 I thought the dragon was going to beat all the little boys. And then 196 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:15,120 the dragon glitched and was just stood still, and so there was this one 197 00:14:15,159 --> 00:14:18,519 soldier just hacking away at the leg. It took like ten minutes. I 198 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,399 was texting Tam in it and I was like, I don't feel good about 199 00:14:20,399 --> 00:14:26,679 this. No, it counts those care fair is fair, So I'm sick 200 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:30,440 to say you're enjoying it. I love it? Yeah, God, I 201 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,279 tweeted out when the embargo was up, and I was like, one thing 202 00:14:33,279 --> 00:14:39,360 I was worried about was that I think playing elden Ring more than anything else. 203 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,840 Like I know people will say the same of a Breath of the Wild, 204 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,440 but I actually felt the Breath of the Wild in comparison. There weren't 205 00:14:46,919 --> 00:14:54,000 huge, beautiful, like distinct environments and like that that feeling, yes, 206 00:14:56,519 --> 00:14:58,519 And so I didn't feel I was worried I wouldn't get that sense of wonder 207 00:15:00,159 --> 00:15:07,440 and then I was playing and there's a point where I saw this castle and 208 00:15:07,559 --> 00:15:09,360 there was the tree at the top of it, and there was like a 209 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:15,600 big fire gollumn like and it just looked like a painting. And I was 210 00:15:15,639 --> 00:15:18,080 like, oh my god, I get to explore that and I get to, 211 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:24,080 you know, exist in that, and I yeah, I've been all 212 00:15:24,159 --> 00:15:28,000 right. So then if I if I, like were to ask for some 213 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,919 pointers about how to get through this first little bit right now, I am. 214 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:37,200 I got that the blasphemous sword, and I am trying to go light 215 00:15:37,279 --> 00:15:39,639 armors so I can dodge and I kind of get in there, do some 216 00:15:39,679 --> 00:15:45,279 swings and occasionally do the big fire attack with that sword. It seems to 217 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,360 mostly be working. I'm I'm worried that I'm going to get to a point 218 00:15:48,399 --> 00:15:50,480 where it's like, nah, dodging is not going to help you here. 219 00:15:50,519 --> 00:15:52,559 You need to rethink your entire strategy. But I don't know. I don't 220 00:15:52,559 --> 00:15:58,360 think so. I think you could, like, as long as you the 221 00:15:58,399 --> 00:16:02,919 weapons that you pick will scale up, but well, your damage out put 222 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:07,080 will scale up depending on the amount of skato tree fragments that you find. 223 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,000 If you explain that, for people that I just I just got the hang 224 00:16:11,039 --> 00:16:15,120 of that too. So schedu tree fragments are like basically leveling up in the 225 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:19,240 DLC and only the basically right. Yeah, So they are a separate stat 226 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:22,639 a series of stats which you go if you go into your stated screen, 227 00:16:22,679 --> 00:16:30,080 you'll see yellow ones there that they depending on how much you get of them, 228 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,480 that goes up. But the moment you return to the lands between that 229 00:16:33,559 --> 00:16:37,960 stuff isn't in play anymore. The weapons are fine, any like core levels 230 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:42,679 that you've done are fine. The scatter tree and the the other stuff that 231 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:49,000 you collect on there go. The spirit ash blessings won't come into play there. 232 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:55,120 So it's basically specific to this DLC to make sure that you don't go 233 00:16:55,279 --> 00:17:00,799 back overpowered and like kill everything immediately. Yeah, am I going to be 234 00:17:00,799 --> 00:17:06,400 finding those in like parts? So they're actually like the majority a significant number 235 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:11,920 of them are around the Micholas crosses, so you know the kind of symbol 236 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:15,920 that they tell you to go and look for to show where Michola's pathing has 237 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:23,519 been. You'll find a bunch there. There's also remember that Pop character that 238 00:17:23,559 --> 00:17:27,839 we just told you to go and attack and you went the other way instead. 239 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:33,720 Some of those. Yeah, some of those will have them as well. 240 00:17:33,799 --> 00:17:38,440 And then there's certain enemies that I won't say what they are, animalistic 241 00:17:38,519 --> 00:17:45,359 enemies that you'll encounter at some point that will drop them as well. Beyond 242 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,480 that, yeah, beyond that, it's just kind of like you will find 243 00:17:48,519 --> 00:17:53,039 them heir in there after you defeat enemies or just like hanging about in certain 244 00:17:53,079 --> 00:17:57,400 areas. There's not a reaches the point where you have to like collect three 245 00:17:57,599 --> 00:18:03,559 I think it is, and then they become a singular upgrade. So as 246 00:18:03,559 --> 00:18:04,920 you've got you've got to hunt them down. I think you can go up 247 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:10,240 twenty levels scattered tree levels. I believe it is. Okay, that's if 248 00:18:10,279 --> 00:18:14,960 you collect every single one, and it's like it does like scale, like 249 00:18:15,039 --> 00:18:17,359 you're saying like it like, yeah, my first one was like just one, 250 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:18,960 and then it's like, well, now go the next up you need 251 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,240 to. And I'm assuming it's going to do that each time, three and 252 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,880 then four. No, I think it stays at three after after three years 253 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:27,799 where it caps out, okay, and even if you get like every single 254 00:18:27,799 --> 00:18:33,200 one of them, the bosses don't become trivial at all. Now that does, 255 00:18:33,519 --> 00:18:37,359 Yeah, it continues to be rough if you if you heard you can't 256 00:18:37,039 --> 00:18:41,920 cake walk kit, you have to actually play the game properly. And then 257 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:45,839 the spirit Ash blessings are the they do the same thing, so they upgrade 258 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:49,720 your attack power. The scatter tree ones that upgrade your attack power and damage 259 00:18:49,799 --> 00:18:56,279 negation for yourself. The spirit Ash does it for Torrent, your steed, 260 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,920 and also any spirit Ash summons, so if you if you're summoning a s 261 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,440 ash, it will be more powerful if you collect the spirit Ash blessings. 262 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:07,759 Those are these those are found more in the world. I think, Okay, 263 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,720 yeah, the summons I wasn't able to summon, and that was just 264 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,279 because I was like an like a dungeon that wasn't allowing it, right, 265 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,759 So it's like, oh, yeah, I could summon things and then it 266 00:19:17,759 --> 00:19:18,720 wasn't working. I'm like, wait, I just think that's just because no, 267 00:19:19,079 --> 00:19:22,319 man. Yeah, there's certain areas which you can summon. It's usually 268 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:29,480 around like big boss areas, boss areas and enemies areas with lots of enemies 269 00:19:29,519 --> 00:19:33,319 nearby. Usually you can see if it's going to be a big fight or 270 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:37,640 a scrap, they'll let you summon there, okay, And it's it's kind 271 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:41,000 of similar for you know, summoning other players, there are specific areas where 272 00:19:41,039 --> 00:19:47,960 you can summon the best place for it and for both of you. How 273 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:52,599 do I beat the Black jail Night run away? Now? I saw that 274 00:19:52,759 --> 00:19:56,119 fucker in the preview and I tried him like three times if I remember correctly, 275 00:19:56,160 --> 00:20:00,400 You run in, immediately, run to the left and let him spray 276 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:04,799 his bullets, close the gap, attack twice, pause and when he pauses 277 00:20:04,839 --> 00:20:10,440 he'll backstep the moment he starts his backstep, jump forward and strike and do 278 00:20:10,599 --> 00:20:14,200 two attacks again and he'll backstep again, and you basically caught him in a 279 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:18,079 loop. They just keep jumping towards him, and like when he tries to 280 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,880 create space, don't let him have it. And then if you remember, 281 00:20:22,039 --> 00:20:30,039 yeah, because there's a bunch of those lads that are the will behave a 282 00:20:30,039 --> 00:20:36,559 bit differently as well. Great news. They have twitch drops at Elden Ring 283 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:41,240 and they've got the little like eel thing and so I got it. Yeah, 284 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,519 I got him. And what's the other one? There was another one, 285 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:49,920 mister wolf Night. I think he's a badge, though I don't think 286 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:55,640 it's the next but yeah, I got him. Yeah, it's fun. 287 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:59,039 I want the pool noodle lad. They're really they can be deadly if you're 288 00:20:59,039 --> 00:21:02,160 not careful. Yes, I accidentally got bucked up on one of them, 289 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,799 and I was like, yeah, please you to begin with, they only 290 00:21:04,839 --> 00:21:10,240 attack you when you're like hitting them, and then you get some other types 291 00:21:10,279 --> 00:21:14,960 as well later on, a little more aggro, which is fun. I 292 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,039 did see a little bit of Maximilian Dude I believe, was streaming this in 293 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,920 four K on Twitch, and I was like, Oh, we're there. 294 00:21:22,039 --> 00:21:26,000 We're finally there where like that can actually work and the game looks just really 295 00:21:26,039 --> 00:21:29,559 good. It's that That's the first thing that hit me when I got back 296 00:21:29,559 --> 00:21:30,640 in. It's like, oh, yeah, the best artists in the world 297 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,319 working on like one of the biggest games ever, and it's just such a 298 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:40,000 joy to look at everything that the big fire guy that's right at the front. 299 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,680 When am I going to be able to beat him? You can find 300 00:21:41,759 --> 00:21:48,960 him immediately if he wants you can't. It's not what he's doable immediately okay, 301 00:21:48,079 --> 00:21:52,480 like hashtag doable. Yeah, I mean the thing that you have to 302 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,480 be careful about is you will die a bunch of times to learn this attack 303 00:21:55,519 --> 00:22:00,039 patterns and its attacks are quite like AoE fire stuff, so you have to 304 00:22:00,039 --> 00:22:07,240 be very precise with like dodging his fire, and it can be tricky. 305 00:22:07,319 --> 00:22:10,640 Even I struggle with it still, Like I've beaten a bunch of them, 306 00:22:10,759 --> 00:22:14,000 and sometimes I'll get like the arena will fuck me up, or I'll just 307 00:22:14,039 --> 00:22:18,200 like didn't predict the right attack there. Right, the fire's got a much 308 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:22,000 bigger area than I was expecting. Yeah. They are worth doing though, 309 00:22:22,039 --> 00:22:26,839 because they give you the tiers that you can put into your physic and they 310 00:22:26,839 --> 00:22:30,920 have some cool new new tiers that mess with properties in a very fun way. 311 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,519 So they are they are tricky to do. You can, like, 312 00:22:34,559 --> 00:22:38,640 once you've gone up a few scattery levels, maybe try one. But the 313 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:45,000 fun last thing, did either of you try the There's like some new ways 314 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:49,640 to fight. I believe there's like a hand to hand combat. You try 315 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,599 that. Yeah, Yeah, it's it's fun. The hand to hand stuff 316 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:59,920 is good for like one v ones and there's certain a bit like the barel 317 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,519 has a good like not AOI, but it's good at crowd control to a 318 00:23:03,599 --> 00:23:07,319 degree. I especially like if you put like a bleed effect or something like 319 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:12,319 that on on the stuff like the bakele or whatever. It can be handy. 320 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:17,240 I just I think they're fun. I think they're designed to be in 321 00:23:17,279 --> 00:23:19,960 there for freaks who want to be like I'm going to stream myself completing the 322 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:25,880 entire game using only punches and kicks, right, yeah, yeah, exactly, 323 00:23:26,039 --> 00:23:30,599 Okay, it's definitely viable. I just don't find them to be particularly 324 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,119 that much better streamline. Yeah, it's good, you're gonna have a rougher 325 00:23:34,559 --> 00:23:38,440 because the range on attack is is very you know small. You have to 326 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,079 be up close and personal, which means you know you're in danger way more 327 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:47,279 and your your ability to dodge is way more. Put to the tests. 328 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,480 If you screw up, miss time something and get hit, chances are you're 329 00:23:49,519 --> 00:23:53,640 going to die, and you can't also panic attack your way out things. 330 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,920 Some people do that way, you know, they overwhelm, They're just start 331 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:02,039 swinging. So I started blasting that kind of approach, but you can't really 332 00:24:02,039 --> 00:24:06,920 do that with do that well with a hand to hand style. I think 333 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,000 the stuff that is really I think a lot of people should try and give 334 00:24:10,039 --> 00:24:14,400 a goal is the projectile weapons, which are new, Like you can if 335 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:18,799 you search like there's a forge knocking about where you can get like so cool. 336 00:24:19,759 --> 00:24:22,680 Yeah, they're mainly puzzle folk, not puzzle, but it's like traversal 337 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,680 focused. Then you can get, for example, an axe that you throw 338 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,319 and it's it's unlimited and you just keep throwing it from a distance, so 339 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,960 you can just keep lobbing axes and stuff like that. Those are fun. 340 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:40,680 And you get like kunai and things like that, like a sphere blade. 341 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:45,200 Yeah, yeah, those are okay, those are Those are fun to do. 342 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:49,720 And I think that there's a lot of new like sorcery and magic stuff, 343 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:56,240 which is really cool. A lot of like the Holy stuff is fun. 344 00:24:56,799 --> 00:25:00,359 I think there's the way people combine it as well with other things is 345 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:04,880 going to be where the real mileage is. I'm excited to see people grab 346 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,920 all that stuff, go back into New Game Plus and then power through it 347 00:25:10,039 --> 00:25:12,680 with all the new abilities and such. The builds are going to be wild 348 00:25:14,279 --> 00:25:18,240 broken. Yeah, I'll be excited to see that, absolutely. All right. 349 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,200 We'll be playing more elden Ring on the website here in the next couple 350 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:26,640 of weeks, probably talk about it more on the BombCast as well. In 351 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,680 the meantime, though, Lucy James, what are the Tale of the Shires? 352 00:25:32,279 --> 00:25:34,759 What are the Shire Tales. I did play Shire Tales. The Shire 353 00:25:34,839 --> 00:25:37,799 Tales, No so, I played Tales of the Shire, which is coming 354 00:25:37,799 --> 00:25:42,720 out at some point this year, being made by Wetter, published by Private 355 00:25:42,759 --> 00:25:48,400 publish by Private Division. And as a big Lord of the Rings fan, 356 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,599 first of all, kind of just say how nice it is to have a 357 00:25:51,599 --> 00:25:55,480 game that's not set during the War of the Ring. It's set beforehand, 358 00:25:55,839 --> 00:25:59,200 so it's set somewhere in between The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings. I 359 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:04,000 didn't get the exact year. It's a weird one because it is a farming 360 00:26:04,039 --> 00:26:11,400 sim and I think the real fulfillment of those games not farming sim sorry, 361 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:17,160 but like cozy genre, there is farming in it. There's animal crossing, 362 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:21,559 there's relationship buildings. So I'm using farming as a generalized to a stagy value. 363 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:22,720 People know what you mean, People get it. Yeah, mean you 364 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:27,759 can can like lay crops and everything and grow your own stuff. So it's 365 00:26:27,839 --> 00:26:33,480 very difficult to get across in half an hour. Just how that game is 366 00:26:33,519 --> 00:26:38,240 going to come together and see how relationships with the Hobbits form, or you 367 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:42,000 know, there's even a dwarf in there, and Gandalf comes by, and 368 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:47,559 I assume other people, Like I heard someone reference Bilbo and you know, 369 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,279 I'm interested to see, hey, is this going to be around the time 370 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:53,400 maybe the Bilbo adopts Frodo or you know, so it remains to be seen 371 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,359 it in terms of story stuff. One thing I think they definitely nailed, 372 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,079 and this was from like a very limited hands on time with it, is 373 00:27:00,079 --> 00:27:07,279 that like it the Shire is this safe haven, like that's how Tolkien always 374 00:27:07,319 --> 00:27:10,559 wrote it. It's like, you know, the allegory that people use and 375 00:27:10,599 --> 00:27:14,599 Tolkien hate allegory, but it's like it's it's England, it's green, it's 376 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:19,640 lush. People are like simple townsfolk. They have a community, and like, 377 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,160 I think that vibe they totally nailed. The one thing I would say 378 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,839 is that like everything hinges, like they've done it very clever wa where it's 379 00:27:26,839 --> 00:27:30,960 like everything hinges around the fact that Hobbits love food. So what's the best 380 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:37,920 way to increase your standing with other Hobbits? Cook meals? And the demo 381 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,440 that I did first was like there was a lot of that, and there's 382 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,160 different ways, you know, like they'll tell you they prefer it salty or 383 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,319 like a recipe cause for it to be salty, and you can adapt you 384 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,640 know which kind of you know, if you have a different this kind of 385 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:55,039 mushroom will make it a little saltier. But then there's like a little graph 386 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,319 thing essentially where you're trying to get it into the sweet spot. So every 387 00:27:57,319 --> 00:28:03,759 time you add a new a new ingredient, you can move it closer into 388 00:28:03,799 --> 00:28:06,240 that zone to try and get it perfect. And the better it is, 389 00:28:06,279 --> 00:28:10,519 the more it will be loved by the other Hobbits. It's very cute, 390 00:28:10,599 --> 00:28:12,440 but the one thing that I think, like I said, was it was 391 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:17,680 difficult to gauge is like how the relationship's actually going to work, because it 392 00:28:17,759 --> 00:28:22,240 was very limited in terms of how much I could interact with everyone because I 393 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,640 would walk around like they basically give me free rein to run around hobbitson and 394 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:30,079 they were just like, oh yeah, go go chat to whoever. But 395 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,119 everyone didn't have dialogue for me because it was like a weird part of the 396 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,000 vertical slice. So there were only really like two or so quests that I 397 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:45,319 could actually do. I couldn't you know. It's also I get why because 398 00:28:45,359 --> 00:28:48,880 of ratings shit. But you can go to the Green Dragon, but you 399 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:53,920 can't drink alcohol there. Is no pipe there is no pipe weed. We'll 400 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:59,680 get the matyrs on this immediately, exactly one. But it was really cute. 401 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,160 I think the one thing that I really liked about it was they let 402 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:08,200 me come back and I was able to mess around with the home decoration part 403 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:12,240 of it, okay, which was like, I was really impressed with the 404 00:29:12,279 --> 00:29:15,720 tools. So as someone who's played a lot of the SIMS, like a 405 00:29:15,759 --> 00:29:19,039 lot of the Sims, especially in the SIMS four, you have to get 406 00:29:19,079 --> 00:29:25,359 really creative or you have to download mods to be able to like position things 407 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:29,240 in a way to have clutter. Like clutter in the SIMS building is super 408 00:29:29,279 --> 00:29:32,960 important, to make it look less like everything is attached to a grid, 409 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,839 and like to make it look lived in. The tools that we used that 410 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,119 I was able to use in the Hobbit in Tales of the Shire were really 411 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:45,400 really good, like in terms of moving stuff around, in terms of uh 412 00:29:45,839 --> 00:29:48,839 like palette, in terms of you could have, oh, you can have 413 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,319 a big arch in the middle of your Hobbit hole and you could have it 414 00:29:52,359 --> 00:29:53,759 be painted, or you could have it be a different kind of word, 415 00:29:53,799 --> 00:29:59,319 or you could have plants on it. And so it was like very It's 416 00:29:59,359 --> 00:30:03,400 like free form. Yeah, so it was good. I think my my 417 00:30:03,559 --> 00:30:08,880 main concern is how it is all going to come together. I there were 418 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,640 a lot of like really fun little Lord of the Rings Tolkien references in it 419 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:17,559 without it being like too overbearing, but there was so there was one thing 420 00:30:17,559 --> 00:30:19,920 that they didn't actually have an answer for me. So when you name your 421 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:29,200 hobbit, you can select from a list of hobbit names and Hobbit surnames. 422 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:34,160 But so there wasn't Gamgee, but there would be Sackville. So you couldn't 423 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:40,119 be in like Sam and Gaffer Gamgee, but you could be a Sackville but 424 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,039 not a Sackville Baggins and they and I was like, is that a story 425 00:30:44,079 --> 00:30:48,279 reason why you can't actually be doing that? Like or is it just you 426 00:30:48,319 --> 00:30:52,960 know, you don't want someone to pretend to be Frodo's sister or whatever? 427 00:30:52,480 --> 00:31:00,000 Right? Yeah, the Embrace group very protective of their property, of course. 428 00:31:00,119 --> 00:31:03,880 Yeah. It was cute. Yeah, it's it sounds cute. It 429 00:31:04,039 --> 00:31:07,799 sounds like I get what you mean by it all coming together, because well, 430 00:31:07,839 --> 00:31:11,160 I think I'm like, what do I want from this game? Because 431 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,039 I do find it like like enticing in a lot of ways. This idea 432 00:31:15,079 --> 00:31:19,039 of like just come hang out with them in the shire. That sounds so 433 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,039 pleasant to me. It's always like my favorite part of the movies is like 434 00:31:22,319 --> 00:31:26,000 when we see the stuff in the Shire. That's definitely the stuff I always 435 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,440 found the most exciting. So like, okay, so once I'm there, 436 00:31:29,519 --> 00:31:32,880 is it like does it not have a lot of momentum because there isn't a 437 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,039 lot of pressure on the player to change things? Or is there? Well, 438 00:31:36,079 --> 00:31:38,279 that's the thing. So the I asked about what what is the quote 439 00:31:38,319 --> 00:31:44,599 unquote central conflict here? Yeah, and it's basically the fact that this particular 440 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,680 village is not recognized by hobbitson as being a Hobbit village. Okay, very 441 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:59,799 cool. So they want to basically like be recognized by the right citizens. 442 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:07,440 Yes, there's no there's no Nasgul coming. Gandalf will obviously appear like you 443 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,799 can see him in the trailer. I I kind of love that, like 444 00:32:10,799 --> 00:32:15,079 like low steaks, relaxing thing, like I just want to go foraging. 445 00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:20,359 I could do this, I could do that, go fishing. It'd be 446 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,160 like a sieve, like different sieve wind conditions. It's like like can you 447 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,759 improve the culture, and then when can you improve your diplomacy. Can you 448 00:32:28,079 --> 00:32:31,160 make yourself so like the best beer and now they like it doesn't have alcohol, 449 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,640 but to make the best food. And then that's them wants to be 450 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,319 part of you. Yeah, Ted Sandyman has nukes, I don't know, 451 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,720 like yeah, exactly, very aggressive with them for some reason, you know, 452 00:32:40,799 --> 00:32:45,799 like I don't think you can go to you can't go to bree or 453 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:50,759 outside of there's a barrier, and they definitely want to keep you in hobited. 454 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,880 So yeah, I just need to know how it all comes together. 455 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:57,839 Play more of it for an extended period of time. But as like a 456 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:02,319 cozy Hobbit game, it's taking all the boxes fe right now, but yeah, 457 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:07,559 need to see, need to see more. I also I also hate 458 00:33:07,559 --> 00:33:12,079 the fact that it's called Tales of the Shire A the Lord of the Rings 459 00:33:12,119 --> 00:33:16,039 game. Yeah, A the Lord of the Rings game. That is bad. 460 00:33:16,839 --> 00:33:21,680 Yeah I understand why. But yeah, I think I said the other 461 00:33:21,799 --> 00:33:22,599 day and it came out and I'm like, Okay, it's not as bad 462 00:33:22,599 --> 00:33:25,160 as I thought it would be to say, but it's not great still. 463 00:33:28,079 --> 00:33:30,920 Yeah, A The Lord of the Rings game is kind of how you have 464 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:35,119 to you have to say instead of a Yeah, you're right, Lord of 465 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:40,359 the Ring. It's not it's just a a Lord of the Rings game. 466 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,440 You have to like sort of change your musicality of Lord of the Ring. 467 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,200 No, you have to, tim you have to do it like in the 468 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:52,480 Elden Ring opening where it goes up rise, so up the Lord of the 469 00:33:52,519 --> 00:33:58,960 Rings game, The Lord of the Rings. All right, let's uh, 470 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,119 we're gonna take a quick break. Can we come back. We're gonna wrap 471 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,599 up this episode pretty quickly. I just want to kind of talk to them. 472 00:34:02,759 --> 00:34:06,920 We talk to these folks about some British games and stuff like that. 473 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:12,199 What that was like right after this? All right, and we are back 474 00:34:12,519 --> 00:34:15,599 and let's let's get into it. We actually decided we're gonna do a mount 475 00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:21,039 rushmore of British game developers. Uh. I definitely have some stuff that comes 476 00:34:21,079 --> 00:34:25,199 to mind. Are doing specific people? Are we doing studios? So I 477 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:29,360 was thinking studios? But you would you rather do people? I mean we 478 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:35,320 can we can studios? Then yeah, okay, cool? All right? 479 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,039 So I immediately think of the most British game studio, which I think is 480 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:45,280 I think the British is signosis. I think the most British. I think 481 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:49,679 that Bridge, I think, yes, okay, all right, cool, 482 00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:52,239 I'm gonna get a dot going here then yeah, whatever, I just associated 483 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,079 like, I'm like yeah, like it's like that is European to me, 484 00:34:55,079 --> 00:34:58,519 but I'm I'm pretty sure they're British growing up and now today it's like you 485 00:34:58,559 --> 00:35:00,519 asked me to name a British game developed, I would still say signals do 486 00:35:00,559 --> 00:35:05,239 we are? We are? We limited to the four faces that are currently 487 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,360 on Mount Rush, the four Faces about Rushing d M a design slash rock 488 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:16,119 Star right Star North was it originally? Well why can't they be like why 489 00:35:16,119 --> 00:35:20,760 can't they be like the Hogee Rock in Narua where every time there's a new 490 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,360 one they add them to the they chosel them into the mons cowardly you got 491 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:30,079 to get rid of one, Yes, exactly, all right, let me 492 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,920 get this. I feel like I should I want to say this, but 493 00:35:35,119 --> 00:35:38,960 it's the recency of it. It's it's just not a great spot, Like 494 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:45,079 I want to say rock Steady, but well there should they should be in 495 00:35:45,079 --> 00:35:50,679 the conversation, Yeah, I think so, but also like even I'm like, 496 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,239 man, that's just a squad game. Though they definitely lost some of 497 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:59,159 their luster, right, that's how I feel about them as well, Zumo, 498 00:35:59,599 --> 00:36:07,840 super Massive, Rare, rare, Hello Games Hello a good one. 499 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:14,199 Yeah, Playground, Playground, I mean oh, Cyrus Serven says, thank 500 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:15,960 goodness you're here. Is extremely British. But is the developer British? They 501 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:22,079 are Cooper? Yes, two boys, good boys. Are we kind of 502 00:36:22,159 --> 00:36:30,920 like IDOS because we can? Yeah, because IDOS was there for a while. 503 00:36:34,039 --> 00:36:37,599 Okay, what else do we we said? Rare, rock Steady, 504 00:36:37,639 --> 00:36:42,199 We could just consider these medium molecule. Media molecule is the one I was 505 00:36:42,199 --> 00:36:45,480 going to ask you both about. Okay, Media molecule, create assembly, 506 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:58,440 Yes, assembly is a good one. Travelers Tales Team seventeen, Ninja theory, 507 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:04,960 Ninja theory, and then uh Lionhead, code Masters yeah, code Masters, 508 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,239 rebellion rebellions there, yeah, sure, yeah. They let me shoot 509 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:16,599 Hitler in the ball exactly the most activities. Yeah, which one did you 510 00:37:16,599 --> 00:37:21,239 say, Lucy Frontier? Oh? Friend here? Okay, that was even 511 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:25,280 monkeys? All right, so we got we we have a lot to choose 512 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:30,280 from here. Do we can keep anymore? But for anything else? I 513 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:36,559 mean rock Star, Yeah, I mean like yeah, because dm A design 514 00:37:36,639 --> 00:37:42,599 was also like Lemmings too, Yeah, yes, also very yeah, Rockstar 515 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,920 have to be on there. Yeah. Okay, so Rockstar is a lock 516 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:52,800 let's put down lock Star. Okay, Like I said, I would go 517 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:57,079 with Signosis, but I'm willing if you guys have three will put up there 518 00:37:57,119 --> 00:38:00,800 before that fellow game. Oh I didn't put Hello Games, but we could 519 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:06,079 do that, right Signosis. I think I would put them on there, 520 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:10,719 but I know how many people of you know right now would be like I 521 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,239 know Signals, Yeah, but it'd be like when when I'm when we're doing 522 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,719 these, I always feel like like yeah, like George Washington, right, 523 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:22,639 like the like, yeah, it has to be on there, right, 524 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:27,599 Yeah, And rarely it's like it's it's the sensibilities are baked into the games, 525 00:38:27,679 --> 00:38:30,480 right. The British humor is like a huge part of their appeal. 526 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:36,639 Okay, well that makes it like we owned they owned an entire like generation 527 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,559 an era of Nintendo. Basically, it's like they were the only company. 528 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:45,280 Yeah, they're the only company that you could mistake the games for being Nintendo 529 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:51,760 games, which is powerful. Yep, absolutely, and that that's uh, 530 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,199 you know, even you go back to their NYS games, which were pretty 531 00:38:54,199 --> 00:38:58,639 good, and they're like one of the studios that really was putting out stuff 532 00:38:58,639 --> 00:39:02,800 that competed with Nintendo self. Okay, one spot left. We can put 533 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,079 a couple up and I try to whittle. What do you how do you 534 00:39:06,079 --> 00:39:09,280 all want to approach it? We have a Hello Games, Idos, rock 535 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:15,000 Steady, Media Molecule, Creative Assembly, Travelers Tales, Sumo Team, seventeen, 536 00:39:15,079 --> 00:39:20,400 Ninja Theory, Code Master's Rebellion, and Frontier. Mm hmmm, creve. 537 00:39:22,639 --> 00:39:27,159 I like, Creative Assembly is a good one, but it's good. 538 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:31,280 Yeah, But I feel like in terms of personally, I would go for 539 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:37,639 rock Steady, but I am very biased on that because they made three absolutely 540 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:45,599 incredible Batman games and then they are like, we're done, We're not gonna 541 00:39:45,679 --> 00:39:49,239 we will not make any more games. They did not make a single game 542 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,840 after that, which is a shame, but you know, it is what 543 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:58,079 it is. And I feel like Crative Assembly has some decent ones. But 544 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:07,360 that's the thing I don't Yeah, I know that the yeah, yeah, 545 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:12,519 Alien Isolation and then Hyaenas Yeah, the last two. That's right. Oh 546 00:40:12,639 --> 00:40:19,840 yeah, scroll down a little bit, sure, I can just it cuts 547 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,559 off a Ninja theory. I can't remember who we've got underneath, Like Rebellious 548 00:40:24,039 --> 00:40:29,480 I like, I like, I like Rebellion. It does feel like I 549 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,239 think rock Steady, medium molecule, creative assimply come to mind first, even 550 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:37,119 hollow games come before Rebellion, but that maybe yeah, I think, yeah, 551 00:40:37,559 --> 00:40:42,559 Team seventeen like obviously worms and stuff. But in terms of that publisher, 552 00:40:42,639 --> 00:40:45,559 in terms of the publishing label they've got, you know they did Dredge, 553 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:50,360 Yeah they did. I was doing Developers of Publishers. Is there a 554 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,440 distinction there? Do we want to make a distinction? I guess we do. 555 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,960 I guess we don't have to make a distinction, but we can because 556 00:40:55,280 --> 00:41:00,719 Dredge was made New Zealand, I feel like you kind of have to have 557 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:05,840 medium molecule on there like that, And I'm like leaning towards I lean towards 558 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,840 that those little big planic games. Man, they were they start, I 559 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:14,639 mean even like dreams yh incredible, just like I ken't like I think of 560 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:20,320 sack Boy as being synonymous with the PlayStation three and some degree four. But 561 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,320 when they were, when the little big planet was popping, it owned everything. 562 00:41:24,199 --> 00:41:29,760 Yeah, it was crazy like they it started. It became a merchandising 563 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:35,639 engine for PlayStation where the original of funcos basically where you could make sack Boy 564 00:41:35,679 --> 00:41:39,679 look like anything, and they sure as hell did it. Yeah, and 565 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:45,519 it's very much also in that like art style that I associate with like rare, 566 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,679 like just a cute character with just like a stubby little arms. Out 567 00:41:49,679 --> 00:41:52,360 of three of those games were super fun, like really really fun yep. 568 00:41:53,639 --> 00:42:01,679 So I feel like between the Little Big Planet game and then also like Dreams, 569 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:07,079 like Dreams is obviously not the success story that perhaps most people wanted, 570 00:42:07,199 --> 00:42:12,800 but it was very cool and very impressive. They haven't made a modernation Racers 571 00:42:13,079 --> 00:42:17,480 modernation that Terraway. They made Terroway, remember, and that was fucking They 572 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:22,760 haven't put out a bad game. They haven't even put out a mediocre game, 573 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:27,199 right. They put out Like Bangers and they had a massive impact on 574 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:32,360 the industry, and if you were in the UK, like the UK was 575 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:38,119 going out of its way to like shine a light on how like uh prestigious 576 00:42:38,159 --> 00:42:44,000 it was to have a medium molecule, they were behind. So I feel 577 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,360 like they should be Okay, I think that puts them in there. Lucy, 578 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:50,800 say that sound right to you? I think that looks good. Then 579 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:58,239 our mount rushmore of British developers goes as this rock star Signosis Rare and Media 580 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,559 Molecule. And when I said out loud that list that sounds like an analyst 581 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:06,199 start chiseling. That is that sounds pretty good. Yes, get him up 582 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:10,480 there, go say in Minecraft though, Yeah, of course the dude just 583 00:43:10,519 --> 00:43:14,320 want to get in Minecraft and make that That would be pretty funny. I 584 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,440 just imagine what it's like to have like a real amount Rushmore with sac Boy's 585 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:24,239 face on it, and it's horrifying that massive. Now just look at her 586 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:28,039 went down and see that every day. Yeah, that's that's a lot. 587 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,400 All right, Let's uh, let's wrap this up. Hey, what are 588 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,639 you guys gonna be doing this Weekend's more more? I mean I listened to 589 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,679 him. I know you played a lot of eldering. You still like it's 590 00:43:38,679 --> 00:43:43,039 it's wild that I stumbled into a new area by accident. I was like, 591 00:43:43,119 --> 00:43:45,960 oh, I had no idea this was hair. There's there's like I 592 00:43:46,079 --> 00:43:50,880 keep finding I found a new boss the other day but I had not seen 593 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,360 which was crazy. I was like, oh you, I didn't see you 594 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:57,719 hair before. But yeah, I'm gonna be playing more of it, I 595 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:02,320 think, And then I think I'm gonna try and play something else. I 596 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,519 think there's a bunch of Steam Next Fest stuff that I downloaded and just haven't 597 00:44:07,559 --> 00:44:10,559 touched. So some of those I think might be still playable, Yes, 598 00:44:10,599 --> 00:44:16,920 some of those who turned out the A and then I'll find something else that 599 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:22,920 paper Mario maybe. Yeah, that's been fun. I'm finishing that up. 600 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,679 I'm really happy with it. Lucy James, how about you? What do 601 00:44:24,679 --> 00:44:29,880 you got going on? I am going to be on so skill Up is 602 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:34,639 doing a game on cancer charity stream on Saturday, so at like seven thirty 603 00:44:34,639 --> 00:44:39,440 PMPT me. I believe Hubert from Easy Allies and j Bodino are gonna be 604 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:43,960 hopping on, so come through, donate some money. Never can watch it 605 00:44:44,039 --> 00:44:46,360 on skill ups YouTube, Chan, YouTube dot com. Let's launches skill Up 606 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:51,679 and then Monday We've got star Players launching, which I'm very excited about. 607 00:44:51,679 --> 00:44:54,760 We finally revealed it. Yeah, but anyone has followed my Instagram stories and 608 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,880 I wondered why I've been at the Guy Fieri Bar and Grill and Burbank so 609 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:04,079 often. That is it's because you love it I've ever met. I love 610 00:45:04,119 --> 00:45:07,960 Flavor Town, but we are very excited about it, so it's uh it's 611 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:13,960 going up on Monday with Money Exchange. We've got Dominic Monaghan, I Shaw, 612 00:45:14,079 --> 00:45:21,840 Tyler, Rajulkleilem, Johnny from Health like we have we have really and 613 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,800 more to be announced. So that's fun. And then this weekend forward, 614 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,559 Yeah one Benjamin Star is coming to stay with me next week, so I 615 00:45:29,599 --> 00:45:32,800 have to do it. I know what you mean. I'm like, I 616 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,880 because I got some people coming intown for Summer Slam in like a month or 617 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:39,920 so, and I'm like, I should really just get a whole area clean 618 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:44,199 to all over my house. We're gonna make hire some people and walk up 619 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:50,519 and down the hills of San Francisco and yeah, we'll look at the bus 620 00:45:50,519 --> 00:45:52,480 and we'll just meet him at the top. Like we we went to see 621 00:45:52,519 --> 00:46:04,039 Glenn Schofield's exhibit last night. Sold really crazy talented, yes, And I 622 00:46:04,079 --> 00:46:07,280 remember seeing his Instagram being like, man, what doesn't he just dot all 623 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,159 the time? And then like he emailed us out of and I was like, 624 00:46:10,199 --> 00:46:15,039 hey, I have an art show in San Francisco. Becomes like hell, 625 00:46:15,119 --> 00:46:17,760 yeah, he does like really cool art and I think you can buy 626 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:23,159 them off his website. You can, yeah, And it's like super well 627 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:28,360 done. 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