1 00:00:26,359 --> 00:00:29,280 It's the Internet. You're busy, Let's do this. Welcome to the Game 2 00:00:29,359 --> 00:00:32,719 Mess Deicides podcast. This is the podcast where we decide everything about the world 3 00:00:32,759 --> 00:00:35,640 of video games so you never have to think for yourself. I'm your host, 4 00:00:35,719 --> 00:00:40,799 Jeff Grubb and with me is Mike Manatti. In today's episode, people 5 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:45,359 seem to like that their final Fantasy seven rebirth. We'll talk about that. 6 00:00:45,399 --> 00:00:47,759 We'll talk about some news a whole bunch more, But first, Mike, 7 00:00:47,759 --> 00:00:50,960 how are you doing? Good? Good? A guy on nappy nap. 8 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,560 It's kind of fun. It's been a long time since I kind of I 9 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,679 don't want to use the crunch word, but you know what I mean. 10 00:00:58,679 --> 00:01:02,240 Did you did a sprint? I did a sprint. Iked really hard, 11 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:06,400 making sure I can beat a very big game in time for the embargo. 12 00:01:06,439 --> 00:01:07,760 Man, that's hard. I'm alwayst like shocked when I wake up and then 13 00:01:07,799 --> 00:01:11,359 like I see a metric one hundred reviews, I'm like, man, how 14 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,560 did you all messed to do that? Because it was very hard for me 15 00:01:14,719 --> 00:01:19,480 and I don't have things like children or like what so what I think the 16 00:01:19,519 --> 00:01:23,120 big difference is that a lot of other people seem to maybe do even more 17 00:01:23,239 --> 00:01:26,519 of a mainline path than you did. And I say even more as if 18 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,560 you did like a very mainly you like played a lot of these side quest 19 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,879 until I did take the very end I was. I was doing everything until 20 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,719 basically two days ago, and I kind of looked at the clock here and 21 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,680 I talked to Sean, who did be to get a sense how far away 22 00:01:42,719 --> 00:01:45,480 I was, and I was going, oh right, we got to kind 23 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:49,480 of get through this a little bit now. Yeah, so uh, but 24 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,840 yeah, it was really worth it. You know a lot of times, 25 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:53,760 I'm just I'm not that worried about reaching the embargo, but I kind of 26 00:01:55,359 --> 00:01:57,719 kind of felt a connection to this game immediately, so I wanted to I 27 00:01:57,719 --> 00:02:01,959 wanted to do it. I wanted to be there. I am. I'm 28 00:02:02,159 --> 00:02:06,239 excited. So many people seem to be into this game. It is the 29 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,919 kind of thing where a big game like this comes along, it could easily 30 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:14,120 disappoint people, and there's some of that going around, but I think actually, 31 00:02:14,159 --> 00:02:15,960 once most people are playing the game, most of that stuff seems like 32 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,639 it's going to evaporate and everyone's just going to be pretty happy that it's such 33 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,479 a good game. Yeah, yeah, I got it wrong with you want 34 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,560 me to like get into it right now if you've got some other housekeeping to 35 00:02:24,599 --> 00:02:29,840 do. But yeah, let's do the other housekeeping. Let's see. Get 36 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:31,879 more from Mike and me by joining the discord at gamess dot net. Give 37 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:35,360 us good rating wherever you are listening. 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That of course gets you access to private channels 46 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:05,680 in our discord, the monthly Q and a participation in our monthly game club 47 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,800 discussions, one month early access to new episodes of game Mess, Jeopardy and 48 00:03:08,879 --> 00:03:15,039 Columbros, and of course all of our shows ad free. That's Patreon dot 49 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,199 com slash game Mess. Shout out to everybody who's been signing up recently, 50 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:21,800 there's been a small little influx, and we always appreciate it makes doing this 51 00:03:22,199 --> 00:03:24,159 very worth it. Of course, everybody who listens makes this worth it, 52 00:03:24,159 --> 00:03:28,879 So thank you everybody out there. Yeah, I mean, let's get the 53 00:03:28,879 --> 00:03:30,680 big topics of the week, and the biggest one is going to be Final 54 00:03:30,719 --> 00:03:38,080 Fantasy seven rebirth across the boards. So someone who hasn't spent much time with 55 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:42,000 it, really any time with it, I've been focusing on like a dragon 56 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,360 when I wake up and then I see the reviews and I see, Okay, 57 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,879 it's got a ninety three. That's a really hard score to get on 58 00:03:49,919 --> 00:03:53,840 Metacritic. Like this is like the base level, like video game reaction stuff, 59 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:54,800 where I'm like, okay, I see the Metacritic. I'm going to 60 00:03:54,879 --> 00:03:58,919 look at some of these headlines and then I'll start reading some of the reviews. 61 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,800 I'll start looking at some bottom scores on Metacritic. I was surprised that, 62 00:04:01,919 --> 00:04:05,680 like the bulk of the bottom scores was a very small fraction, and 63 00:04:05,719 --> 00:04:10,080 they were eighties. They weren't like seventies and sixties. There was no like 64 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:14,080 three thrown in there out of nowhere. Sometimes happens as happens with like a 65 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:15,879 Breath of the Wild or something like that. You'll see a couple like sixties 66 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:20,120 and sevens in there spicing things up. Everyone seems to think this is a 67 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:26,879 very good and fun video game to play. Your response to it, Mike, 68 00:04:27,079 --> 00:04:30,560 was, it's fantastic, is that right? This? Yeah, this 69 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,360 is top of the line stuff for me. It's special for me because you 70 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:39,319 know, I love Final Fantasy, and I just never thought we would actually 71 00:04:39,319 --> 00:04:44,680 get a new Final Fantasy game like this again, one that was sort of 72 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,199 spread out across this big world with all this extra stuff to do, with 73 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:54,199 this much content in this destiny. All the other recent single player Final Fantasies 74 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:59,240 have had to make a lot of compromises to still sort of maintain that triple 75 00:04:59,439 --> 00:05:02,240 A presentation. That kind of goes hand in hand with being a Final Fantasy, 76 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:06,759 right. Thirteen very linear, like like no real Talents, the Real 77 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:11,720 Exploration fifteen. It's okay, it's an open world, it's not a huge 78 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,879 one. You can only play as one character, and there's there's kind of 79 00:05:14,879 --> 00:05:18,079 no Act three because they ran out of money, right you know, sixteen 80 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,639 kinds of constant with the other things, just not a whole lot of actual 81 00:05:20,959 --> 00:05:25,079 content there. You play as one character, even though I'm seven remake. 82 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,800 You know, it's like in one city, there's not a whole lot of 83 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:31,240 like exploration there. And this is like the first fan fantasy that is like 84 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,920 those PS one games again where it's just wow, there is a lot to 85 00:05:34,959 --> 00:05:39,040 do. Even though it's technically just a third of one of those PS one 86 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:43,079 games. They expand stuff, so it still feels like this massive venture. 87 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,879 I mean, you know, Original fifty seven took me thirty hours to beat. 88 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,120 This one took me seventy just to beat part two here, And I 89 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:54,560 know I've see some people like some of like the complaints, and again, 90 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,680 like the complaints are from people who still like really like this type, so 91 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,360 it's not like yeah, but like, oh it's kind of stretched out a 92 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,720 little bit. I really like that stretching out. That sounds gross, but 93 00:06:03,759 --> 00:06:06,519 I do, you're filthy, I know, I though, But like I 94 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:11,480 love that things get to be expanded upon. I love that characters like Kate 95 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:15,000 Sith, you know, they're there and in the Result Fantasy seven they have 96 00:06:15,079 --> 00:06:16,920 some stuff, have a lot more to do here. There's a lot more 97 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:21,959 character development, there's a lot more new characters getting developed. Still, locations 98 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,959 that you spend like ten seconds in in the original, like Costa del Soul 99 00:06:26,199 --> 00:06:30,720 have a ton going on there. So yeah, I think that's a big 100 00:06:30,759 --> 00:06:33,519 part of me is I'm actually just stunned to get a Final Fantasy and you 101 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:38,360 like this again well, because I mean, I think you are right to 102 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:42,040 point out that that is stunning. That is something that kind of feels like 103 00:06:43,399 --> 00:06:46,639 a byproduct of game development gone by, where you can get all of this 104 00:06:46,759 --> 00:06:50,000 variety, all of this extra stuff in there and it can be big and 105 00:06:50,079 --> 00:06:55,560 expansive because they were working on a two D plane with sprites that had seven 106 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,600 different phrasing animation. Yeah, exactly right, And it's like they could reuse 107 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,759 taile sets and stuff like that, and obviously they find ways to do that 108 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,160 a little bit, but you can only do so much of that when you 109 00:07:05,199 --> 00:07:11,560 are working in a four K world and so and then creating four K assets 110 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:15,680 requires so much more time and effort. I think that that has always been 111 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,120 the most exciting thing about the prospect of a Final Fantasy seven remake. It 112 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,759 is like, hey, they believe in this, they know fans want this, 113 00:07:21,839 --> 00:07:26,519 so they can kind of go all out and it sounds like from what 114 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:30,800 everyone has said about this game, they definitely went all out kind of no 115 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,120 holds barred, and I think that's really I mean, we don't get that 116 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,720 from very many games, so the fact that we are getting it from this 117 00:07:36,879 --> 00:07:41,839 is very exciting. And even if it's like sort of almost the exception that 118 00:07:41,879 --> 00:07:44,879 proves the rule that these kinds of games aren't really possible in a lot of 119 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:46,879 other ways, because like even Square INNX won't do this for Final Fantasy seven 120 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,639 team. We kind of talked about this on BCR today over on Giant bumb 121 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:54,319 where it's like Square Innox is going to keep making a bunch of these like 122 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,120 this. This is like the one where they're going to be able to get 123 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,639 away with it, and they are getting away with it, and that's nice. 124 00:07:58,839 --> 00:08:01,720 Now you mentioned some of the complaints. What are the complaints that you 125 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:03,360 see out there that that surprise you, and like what would you kind of 126 00:08:03,879 --> 00:08:07,759 why didn't they bother you? Or did they bother you? Yeah? Very 127 00:08:07,759 --> 00:08:11,160 few of them did, Like you know, some people, you know, 128 00:08:11,319 --> 00:08:13,600 I love how many mini games there are, and again that harkens back to 129 00:08:13,759 --> 00:08:18,600 original File Fantasy seven and there's even more here honestly, even though a few 130 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,240 of them are missing from the original here because I presume they're sitting them for 131 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:24,639 the part three. There's other new stuff here, like Queen's Blood, that 132 00:08:24,759 --> 00:08:30,120 incredible new card game that is super fun, maybe even better than Triple Triad, 133 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,080 which is which is kind of nuts. Sometimes they make you play the 134 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,919 minigame and like, I don't like. That didn't even occur to me as 135 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:37,279 a problem. I was doing it because I was just I don't know, 136 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,919 I was just fully on board with that. But I seeing a few people 137 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,000 say, oh, I don't like, like, oh, the pacing is 138 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,039 killed, and like, yeah, sometimes the story reason for why you're doing 139 00:08:46,039 --> 00:08:48,759 one of these mini games is very dumb, and it makes those sense and 140 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,240 I kind of don't care. Yeah, I mean, let's let's let's be 141 00:08:52,279 --> 00:08:56,240 clear. Like, for as long as I've known you, you are someone 142 00:08:56,279 --> 00:08:58,759 who said I don't mind grinding because that's part of the game and I like 143 00:08:58,759 --> 00:09:03,440 playing in the game. And I will say that comes to mind because I've 144 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,919 been playing like a Dragon and I'm in a section where I'm like going through 145 00:09:05,919 --> 00:09:07,519 a dungeon and just the grind levels, and I'm having a pretty good time. 146 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,879 Because it's just the game, and I like playing the game, Like 147 00:09:09,879 --> 00:09:13,279 go ahead on, Mike Manatti sometimes knows what he's talking about as I'm playing 148 00:09:13,279 --> 00:09:16,960 that to hear that. The way Final Fantasy seven elongates all this stuff is 149 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,799 by giving you all these different options in mini games that also are ways for 150 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:24,720 you to gain XP. That sounds like an improvement to me. I don't 151 00:09:24,759 --> 00:09:28,440 know, I have to play it myself, but the way you've described it 152 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,360 sounds very promising to me. Right, It's like it's sead of like grinding 153 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,279 in that oh, just going to run around the open world for a while, 154 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,840 Like well, now this is when you do those kind of open world 155 00:09:35,279 --> 00:09:39,039 map icon missions and things like that, and like some of them are really 156 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:43,799 long side quest chains that give you a ton of other awards, including sort 157 00:09:43,799 --> 00:09:50,679 of affinity with your party members and materia and this other currency that helps you 158 00:09:50,759 --> 00:09:54,120 unlock some of those Team centergy moves. So it's just a very good loop. 159 00:09:54,159 --> 00:09:58,799 And at the very core again the game here is that combat system from 160 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:05,240 Fantasy seven remake, which is the best, like the best combat system the 161 00:10:05,279 --> 00:10:11,799 way that it manages to both feel like an action RPG but still have that 162 00:10:11,879 --> 00:10:16,200 turn based element because of the way you charge your ATB meter and then issue 163 00:10:16,279 --> 00:10:20,039 commands. It's incredible. I love it. And now you have all these 164 00:10:20,159 --> 00:10:22,639 new characters here that add a lot of different spice to it. And all 165 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:26,840 these characters are a ton of fun to play, and you get a chance 166 00:10:26,879 --> 00:10:31,120 to see all of them shine. We did talk about a lot about this 167 00:10:31,159 --> 00:10:33,399 game earlier today, so I don't know how much you want to repeat all 168 00:10:33,399 --> 00:10:39,360 that stuff. But in terms of the stuff where you know, we talked 169 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:43,279 to Tam, we talked to Sean. They had some issues with the ending. 170 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,000 I'll say it a million times, probably while we're having this conversation. 171 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,519 We can't talk about specifics in Bargoed, so don't worry about that. We 172 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:52,919 are not going to be spoiling anything pretty much, but especially not the ending. 173 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,159 I get the sense that that stuff mostly worked for you. Do you 174 00:10:56,879 --> 00:11:00,360 if when people say, well, that's because you're a Kingdom Arts fan, 175 00:11:00,399 --> 00:11:05,039 do you think that's the case or what I mean? Look, I don't 176 00:11:05,039 --> 00:11:09,200 necessarily love it when Kingdom Hearts gets it's most Kingdom Hearts like it does this 177 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,399 day, and it's like I don't want people can maybe read into a million 178 00:11:11,399 --> 00:11:13,480 ways, you know, I've seen a few people say, oh, that 179 00:11:13,639 --> 00:11:18,399 ending, I don't know, it's excessive, right, and that is very 180 00:11:18,519 --> 00:11:20,960 much a style of I don't mean to like pin it all on no more 181 00:11:20,039 --> 00:11:26,519 specifically, but games made from that man's team definitely have excess Like Kingdom Hearts 182 00:11:26,519 --> 00:11:31,399 three was a very excessive way to put it. Yeah, right, right, 183 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:35,840 and like it bothered me more Kingdom Hearts three in a lot of ways, 184 00:11:35,879 --> 00:11:41,360 and the ending is maybe indulgence and excessive. And you know, if 185 00:11:41,399 --> 00:11:43,360 you're reading it to how you think, I'm like telling you what the ending 186 00:11:43,399 --> 00:11:45,960 means, you don't just wait till you see it. I don't know. 187 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:50,559 It wasn't anything that really shocked me necessarily, and I'm kind of so well, 188 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,879 I guess we have to see how this plays out in part three, 189 00:11:52,919 --> 00:11:56,759 because there is a part three, and I still don't really know where it's 190 00:11:56,799 --> 00:11:58,799 all going. So I don't want to say I was surprised that, like 191 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,639 a lot of people seemed like like that was kind of like the main takeaway, 192 00:12:03,639 --> 00:12:07,799 and that happens. That's the thing with endings, right, is that 193 00:12:07,799 --> 00:12:09,279 that is the last impression you get of a game. Yeah, and they 194 00:12:09,279 --> 00:12:13,600 can really kind of clarise with things for you. So if you're not feeling 195 00:12:13,639 --> 00:12:16,000 that ending, it kind of can be this sort of weird final note to 196 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:22,240 end this sixty seventy hour experience on But nah, I was was fine with 197 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:26,159 it, and to be clear, lots of stuff about it that I really 198 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,720 like, specific about the boss fights, a lot of stuff about the ending 199 00:12:28,759 --> 00:12:31,399 that you like, right yeah, because the boss fights themselves at the final 200 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:39,080 few really cool, awesome, awesome stuff and some very good beats also, 201 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,200 So I just want to say that, like because I'm gonna try to come 202 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:45,600 out like like I don't want to like fight with people who don't like the 203 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,639 ending. That's fine, But because I had a little bit of this where 204 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,799 I was hearing from some of my peers about that and I was kind of 205 00:12:50,879 --> 00:12:52,759 dreading it. Its like, oh no, because I'm really loving this game, 206 00:12:52,799 --> 00:12:56,200 and then at the end, I'm gonna like turn on it or get 207 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,480 bummed out that didn't happen to me. I don't think that's gonna happen too 208 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,879 necessarily a lot of people. So I don't want other people to kind of 209 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,279 worry about that. I guess while they're playing a game like look like having 210 00:13:05,279 --> 00:13:09,159 some kind of sets of dread about the ending a couple more things, and 211 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:13,600 then I might look through some of these super chats that are about Final Fantasy 212 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,679 seven. We've got a lot of a lot coming in, so if anyone 213 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,679 wants to ask a question, the super chats is the best way to ensure 214 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,919 that your question gets asked. I think there's a lot of people who are 215 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:28,559 going to look at this game, see the buzz and have actually missed most 216 00:13:28,639 --> 00:13:33,799 Final Fantasy seven content, whether it was the original game or remake. Will 217 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,320 they be able to jump into this game the way that Square Enix suggests, 218 00:13:37,639 --> 00:13:41,480 is possible that this is a standalone game, not in the way that they 219 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:48,039 suggest where it's totally fine to just start here, like there is a recap 220 00:13:48,159 --> 00:13:50,960 video that's pretty good, and yeah, you can read your own stuff whatever, 221 00:13:52,039 --> 00:13:56,080 and you'll probably be fine. I think, in an even slightly ideal 222 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,600 world, what you do at least play Final Fantasy seven or remake, which 223 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:03,200 isn't nearly as long a game as this anyway, Yeah, I mean it 224 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,279 is. It is really weird, Jeff, and I understand, like, 225 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,519 I get why they're making that a big marketing beat, because they probably are 226 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:13,799 really worried because it is such a direct sequel. But yeah, again, 227 00:14:13,879 --> 00:14:16,159 in an ideal world where we all have if at time, I'm like, 228 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,600 you should probably play the original or at least like become familiar with that. 229 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:22,240 I don't know how much other people are excited about playing PS one RPG's like 230 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:26,600 I am, and you really should play remake. Also, maybe Integrated. 231 00:14:26,639 --> 00:14:30,240 I didn't get to play Integrate. That didn't really bother me. I just 232 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,679 read a story synopsis of that. That's like that UFI d NC that we 233 00:14:33,759 --> 00:14:37,120 got that I always meant to get around to. And then is intermission The 234 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:41,720 thing with UPI and Integrate is the name of the yeah game story, Yeah, 235 00:14:41,759 --> 00:14:43,200 exactly, Okay, Yeah, I always complained it, so I get 236 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:50,000 it back similar words. Yeah. Yes. The other thing, I am 237 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,919 someone who likes games to be pretty stupid, I think from the outside, 238 00:14:52,919 --> 00:14:54,279 I look at him, I look at this game. I'm like, hey, 239 00:14:54,279 --> 00:14:56,600 it looks like it might be taking it stuff pretty seriously. That's fine. 240 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,919 Games are allowed to do. That Is that the case? This game 241 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,600 is very stupid? Like hell yeah, just and I think that's part of 242 00:15:03,639 --> 00:15:05,639 you know, so Dan Record's liking this game a lot, and which is 243 00:15:05,679 --> 00:15:09,559 a little surprising me. But hearing about why he likes like a dragon infinite 244 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,919 wealth. I think a lot of that stuff you like there is going to 245 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,360 translate here. This is a game that can be very goofy and very silly. 246 00:15:16,399 --> 00:15:20,320 I'm not necessarily somebody who's laughing out loud at my video games. There 247 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:26,840 were parts there that were just so ridiculous and funny that I was absolutely chuckling 248 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:30,879 and just laughing to myself. And you know, me and Penny are having 249 00:15:31,159 --> 00:15:33,960 a good time over there, you know, I mean, right, And 250 00:15:33,039 --> 00:15:37,240 like maybe that comes at the expense of it. Was something else Tam said 251 00:15:37,279 --> 00:15:39,080 during the thing, where like, oh, video game storywriting has gotten more 252 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:43,480 sophisticated than back in the day when we did have kind of like silly, 253 00:15:43,519 --> 00:15:46,559 goofy minigames, stoppy things and not a man paying words into his mouth there. 254 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,000 And I'm not trying to like make it like I'm not trying to put 255 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:52,799 Tam on trial here. For give you the game an eight that's insane a 256 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:54,879 part of it, and now again I have more me I've gotta like, 257 00:15:54,919 --> 00:16:00,679 ah good, I'm glad that it's not as sophisticated as may be a Final 258 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,960 Fantasy sixteen or a lot of like, you know, again not to put 259 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:08,240 the PlayStation games under fire, but like you know that, like sixteen definitely 260 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,159 felt a little bit more like, oh, we'll get be one of those 261 00:16:11,159 --> 00:16:15,720 you know, all that game of frozization that was in the pjuiciness that they're 262 00:16:15,759 --> 00:16:18,799 going for. Yeah, right, that seems to be the goal of a 263 00:16:18,799 --> 00:16:21,080 lot of those games, and this game doesn't seem like it's trying to fall 264 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,600 into that pitfall. Yeah yeah, you know, so I'm is it really 265 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:30,159 stupid? Like their plot at one point to like, hey, we need 266 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,399 to talk to this person and figure out what he's doing. Uh, why 267 00:16:33,399 --> 00:16:37,039 don't we'll do that by dressing up as soldiers and going into a parade and 268 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:41,399 then we'll get an award from him. And it's like it's real stupid. 269 00:16:41,559 --> 00:16:45,120 And when the plan works, they're like, oh no, now we have 270 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:49,080 to go talk to him in front of everybody. But you get to do 271 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,039 this awesome minigame. And again some people are like I don't want to be 272 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:56,120 forced to play this video game. But the MIDI game is so stupid and 273 00:16:56,159 --> 00:17:00,080 fun. It is so goofy. It is such a silly, silly on 274 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,319 time. All right, A lot of questions came in about Final Fantasy. 275 00:17:03,359 --> 00:17:07,400 Let's get to some of these. Jacob Bench, who is sending his twentieth 276 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,799 of super chat Jay Bench, thank you so much. Man, Hey dogs. 277 00:17:10,799 --> 00:17:14,000 How big are the open zones in Rebirth? And does it feel worth 278 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,200 it to go off the beaten path and explore? I can't wait for Thursday. 279 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:22,119 There is a ton a ton of real estate in this game. I 280 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:27,480 get you. The open zones is pretty big, and there's like several of 281 00:17:27,519 --> 00:17:30,400 them, so there's a lot to export. Now, when I say like 282 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:34,240 explore a lot of it is kind of more going to like a point in 283 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,440 your map, like going to those towers so you really know where you go. 284 00:17:37,519 --> 00:17:41,000 It is more making the way point to the important thing and less like 285 00:17:41,039 --> 00:17:44,480 at tiers of the key of like I'm going to just go in this direction 286 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:48,000 and see what I find. You'll find some stuff still, for sure, 287 00:17:48,559 --> 00:17:49,920 but it is it is more of a this is the word you're going to 288 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:55,440 traverse around to go these different sign missions and things like that. Oh, 289 00:17:55,559 --> 00:17:59,920 let's see. Feel free to just answer this with a one word response or 290 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:04,200 a boiler plate response. Nick asks, did cephrov do the thing? Yes? 291 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:11,799 Yes, cephrof does called cloud a puppy. Adam Gesz says, just 292 00:18:11,839 --> 00:18:15,000 stick Final Fantasy seven rebirth in my veins. Already you this was your most 293 00:18:15,039 --> 00:18:18,839 anticipated game, right, were you like of the year? Were you like 294 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,680 very happy to get in there? And it lived up to the to the 295 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:25,960 expectations, exceeded expectations. It is a stupid thing to say in February, 296 00:18:26,079 --> 00:18:30,160 but the first two months of this year have been so ridiculous that it is 297 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,799 worth saying that this is my favorite game of the year so far. And 298 00:18:34,839 --> 00:18:41,079 I think of all the games with the words Final Fantasy seven in the title, 299 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:47,440 this is the best one. Another really weird thing to say, encompasses. 300 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,240 It's a lot of videos. I get what you're saying, weird. 301 00:18:51,279 --> 00:18:56,599 It's a better the dish of you saying surper surch of surprise. They're just 302 00:18:56,799 --> 00:18:59,559 they're just surpres was my me and my buddy's code word for a long time 303 00:18:59,559 --> 00:19:04,319 when we thought party was layman wanted to leave. People like Dirge Cerberus. 304 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,599 Yeah, we would just bring bring up Dirgi Cerberus and then we know that 305 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:15,839 I here, that's that's incredible. And Panada Eater says, I always meant 306 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,279 to play o G. Final Fantasy seven and after loving remake and just never 307 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:22,759 did. But listening to Mike and Sean on today's BombCast re Vengeance convinced me 308 00:19:22,839 --> 00:19:26,680 to get get it on switch and try to beat it before rebirth next week. 309 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:33,000 Thanks what wait? Wait? Wait? What? No? I don't 310 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:37,839 play the original seven. That's crazy. Really, that is such a huge 311 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,960 game. He's so like old thirty hours. It's not as big as you're 312 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:45,839 thinking. Yeah, it's fine game. It is a very good game. 313 00:19:47,039 --> 00:19:51,640 It's very old though, Like, I can't play it. Your final fantasy 314 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,799 opinions are not welcome here. I can't play. I tried to play a 315 00:19:55,839 --> 00:19:57,240 couple of times, I guess. I was like, oh, I can't 316 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:02,240 rush it you. I don't have time. I don't have patience anymore. 317 00:20:03,039 --> 00:20:04,960 Oh no, I can't kick them from the call because he's recording this form 318 00:20:06,319 --> 00:20:08,599 me too. Oh my god, these children, Oh my god. That's 319 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,960 where we're at, where people are like, I won't play a placeation one. 320 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:17,319 Oh no, Hey, did you see my slack message? I hope 321 00:20:17,319 --> 00:20:19,799 you dad, it's a it's a good one. All right, let's see. 322 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,200 Wait did we do we answer that? I can't remember. Oh that 323 00:20:22,319 --> 00:20:26,240 was the question. It was just like, thanks about playing og Fantasy seven. 324 00:20:26,319 --> 00:20:29,359 Yeah, you're welcome. I mean, listen, that's a good way 325 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,200 to play. It's got the fast forward button and stuff like that, so 326 00:20:32,319 --> 00:20:33,400 hey, you'll have a fun time. That's a good video game. Still. 327 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:38,920 Oh let's see here. Uh, this one's tangentially related. Big Jambo 328 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:44,640 Ryan says, Mike Death is Stranding is clearly the best PS five game now. 329 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,200 I think this is a response to when we were saying Ratchet and Clink 330 00:20:47,279 --> 00:20:51,920 was the best PS five game, But do you have a new best PS 331 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:57,559 five game now? Ooh yeah, yeah, yeah, and I'm pretty safe. 332 00:20:57,839 --> 00:21:00,960 Yeah. I mean, look, I think maybe Ratchet and Clake is 333 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,279 maybe there's there's something still very different but very different games. It is weird. 334 00:21:04,759 --> 00:21:08,000 Yeah, it may be more impressive technically in a lot of ways still 335 00:21:08,079 --> 00:21:12,799 because this is still such a big game. That's that sometimes there's a little 336 00:21:14,279 --> 00:21:18,480 jake not glitches, very unglitchy game for how big it is, but like 337 00:21:18,519 --> 00:21:21,920 a specimage of Jink here and there, and Ratchet Quake Grit the Parts one 338 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:26,119 of the unjinkiest games you could ever play. Uh. Derachi says, and 339 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:27,559 I feel like the answer to some of these questions is gonna be yes. 340 00:21:29,279 --> 00:21:33,079 Yeah, but does Final Fantasy seven Rebirth have don Doko Island or Sujimon League 341 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:38,400 or the diaper Guy? Didn't think so there's a diaper guy. Isn't there 342 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,799 a diaper guy? Yeah? If you play the OG, you know about 343 00:21:41,839 --> 00:21:48,160 Dio. Dio is ridiculous. In this game. There are so many minigames, 344 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:52,359 and some of them are just absolutely surprising and wild what they are. 345 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,200 I don't want to spoil all of them, and some of them are really 346 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:56,880 in depth. And you know, I think people heard about Queens by which 347 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,279 I talked about that new card game. It really is so much fun. 348 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:04,680 You get access to that immediately, and it starts off so simple, and 349 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,160 then as you kind of like get more cards, you get build decks. 350 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:11,279 You can build different kind of decks, or you can kind of just stick 351 00:22:11,319 --> 00:22:14,440 with like a base deck. Like I had a pretty simple buff deck that 352 00:22:14,559 --> 00:22:18,319 I used throughout the entire game. Works fine, but there were opponents who 353 00:22:18,319 --> 00:22:22,880 were using weird decks that were destroying friendly cards to buff their other cards. 354 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,440 I will like get into the whole thing of how it works. It'll sound 355 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:29,400 more complicated than it is, but it was kind of a bold thing because 356 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,599 we had Triple try it if I'm SC eight, which was incredible, and 357 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,599 then if obviously nine had Tetra Master, like we can make a new one 358 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,759 and it did not work. So ever since then, whenever they need a 359 00:22:37,799 --> 00:22:41,680 card game, they just bring back Triple Try it and we're usually pretty happy 360 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,559 about it. So the fact that they were like, now we're going to 361 00:22:44,599 --> 00:22:48,400 try again and it actually really works here, that's pretty cool. Uh. 362 00:22:48,559 --> 00:22:52,119 Let's see Jacksontention says, I'm going to have time to finish remake and uv 363 00:22:52,279 --> 00:22:56,960 DLC by rebirth release. Am I going to be prepared? Or do I 364 00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:00,400 need to play the og slash Crisis Core et cetera? Uh? I mean 365 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:06,119 Crisis Core isn't like supermandatory like for stuff like that, like seriously like og 366 00:23:06,599 --> 00:23:11,200 A crisis Core or weird things like ever crisis like go find if you want 367 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,000 to just go find a good YouTube video. It's going to wrap that stuff 368 00:23:14,079 --> 00:23:17,839 up. You be fine. But definitely the most important thing here is to 369 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,880 have played Final Fantasy seven remake. Oh, let's seem to make sure I 370 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,480 mark that one so I know which ones I have answered? Uh? Big 371 00:23:25,599 --> 00:23:29,559 Jimbo Ryan is back and I lost track of that there it is, Uh, 372 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:30,519 I like you, that's that's unrelated. So we'll go to this one. 373 00:23:30,519 --> 00:23:34,359 Big Fresh thirty seven is rebirth worth buying if I don't like Final Fantasy 374 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:41,799 seven, but I do like Tifa's breasts. Tifa's breasts are very good in 375 00:23:41,839 --> 00:23:45,480 this video game. I just want to make sure we got a clean reader, 376 00:23:45,599 --> 00:23:48,799 right, Okay, thank you, got it? Got it? Okay, 377 00:23:48,799 --> 00:23:49,839 cool, cut it, cut it and get it up on the soundboard 378 00:23:51,039 --> 00:23:55,519 it. Uh yeah, I hey, I saw some screenshots looking pretty good 379 00:23:55,559 --> 00:23:56,680 over there. You know, you know what. Every character in this game 380 00:23:56,759 --> 00:24:00,039 is looking very very good. I'll say that, yeah, I mean yeah, 381 00:24:00,079 --> 00:24:03,440 yeah, Like the beachy inter swimsuit. It was kind of like the 382 00:24:03,559 --> 00:24:11,279 uh like the Ace venture a pet detecta thing right, was like, you 383 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:15,839 know a little bit. Uh. Power Glover says, that's a good name, 384 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,160 especially if your name is Glover. Power Glover says, how many zippers 385 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:23,039 and or straps do these fucking people wear in this video game? Rufus Shinro 386 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:27,400 really goes wild and remake love you guys and wolf Fluff will Fluff Power Glover. 387 00:24:29,039 --> 00:24:30,680 Well, I will say, you know, Kate Sif'smoughle pet has like 388 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,240 that big zipper on the back because it's supposed to kind of look like a 389 00:24:33,319 --> 00:24:37,160 costume. So that's this that's the only zipper I really seasons. You're looking 390 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:41,960 at that guy's back quite a bit. Oh see, where's that one? 391 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,000 Uh? Oh? Brian Corlis says with the with this release, is Japan 392 00:24:47,079 --> 00:24:51,000 back on top as being the kings of gaming, Capcom, Nintendo, Square, 393 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:55,319 Sega, et cetera, all putting out bangers persistently. I think so. 394 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,279 Yeah. I think that the companies that have finally figured that out, 395 00:24:59,279 --> 00:25:00,799 and a lot of it is the one that never really gave up even when 396 00:25:00,799 --> 00:25:04,759 they struggled, like a like a Konami and a Square Enix or a Sega, 397 00:25:04,839 --> 00:25:10,079 and they had their struggles. Capcom also had its struggles, and you 398 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:11,920 know, like they didn't just kind of give up like a Konami did for 399 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,799 a while. And now Kadambi is hoping that they could sort of just jump 400 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,240 back in like they never left, and we'll see how that goes. But 401 00:25:18,319 --> 00:25:22,119 I think the persistence for a lot of these bigger studios that have stuck it 402 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:26,119 out, saying with the Vandy namcos is really paying off. Yeah, it 403 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,680 was just like there was a period there where there's a little bit of headaches 404 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:34,279 for Japanese developers where they were just not sharing like their lessons quite as much 405 00:25:34,319 --> 00:25:37,920 as like was happening in like the West with GDC, and Japan was not 406 00:25:37,039 --> 00:25:41,039 quite as president for that. So like switching over to HD gaming caught them 407 00:25:41,039 --> 00:25:45,240 by surprise, got very expensive, and it scared off some companies and there 408 00:25:45,319 --> 00:25:47,920 was like a lot of developers looking around going like, wait, we are 409 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,680 you guys still serious about this? They figured it out actually pretty quickly, 410 00:25:51,759 --> 00:25:55,240 and they have consistently been making the best games for quite some time now. 411 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:59,240 I think from Soft really has been the like the leader there. But then 412 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,480 when you put we list, Capcom, Nintendo, Square Sega kind of all 413 00:26:03,559 --> 00:26:06,480 continuing to figure out more and more each and every day. That's yeah, 414 00:26:06,599 --> 00:26:08,880 definitely impressive. And like, I don't think I don't feel that way about 415 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,400 American studios right now. It's like there's a handful that have some good games 416 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,480 coming out, have good track records, but a lot of them are also 417 00:26:15,599 --> 00:26:18,599 like hey, Bethesda, they seem lost at sea right now. I mean 418 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:22,519 Europe, it would be Soft there seem to be and you know, obviously 419 00:26:22,559 --> 00:26:26,039 they're all still making some good games, also having some pretty big struggles lately. 420 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,759 I mean, people aren't people don't even really have the energy to clown 421 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,799 on skull and Bones, Jeff. That yeah came out, and at least 422 00:26:33,799 --> 00:26:37,480 with suicide Squads, like there's some energy to beat the risk of like the 423 00:26:37,799 --> 00:26:41,359 rubout it or whatever it's calling Billons. Everyone's just like I don't even want 424 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,480 it. Yeah, We're just gonna go play hell Divers and not even engage 425 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,880 with this. And that's yeah, there's there, all right, CJ. 426 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:55,480 How long till this didn't meet squares expectations? We've talked about Final Fantasy seven 427 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,119 remixed sales in the past five million, probably a little underwhelming in terms of 428 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:00,599 what Square wanted, although I don't think they ever said so. I'm sure 429 00:27:00,599 --> 00:27:04,160 it has sold better since then, especially coming to PC and going on sale 430 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,039 a bunch of times and having Integrate. I'm sure it got up quite quite 431 00:27:07,039 --> 00:27:12,319 a bit higher. It feels like Rebirth should be doing much better than that, 432 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,519 right, I mean it feels like it. The one that throws me 433 00:27:15,559 --> 00:27:18,519 off is like, to me, it's like, man, how many people 434 00:27:18,559 --> 00:27:22,079 are going to buy this who didn't buy remake? Which is there maybe seven 435 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:26,559 million people. Well, I mean to be fair, now, at this 436 00:27:26,559 --> 00:27:30,839 point, remake has like been in probably like PlayStation plus yeah for a long 437 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,839 time and stuff. You know, that wouldn't count towards those sales. So 438 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,119 hopefully a lot of people have played that game. Yeah, but you know, 439 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,839 hey, there will be people do especially Metacritic doesn't necessarily always have an 440 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,559 impact on sales. I do think once you get to ninety and higher that 441 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,880 has to have some kind of impact that makes people. I mean, that 442 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,200 was kind of my boulders Gate three point. That was the game I thought 443 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:52,440 I wasn't going to play until its medicric score was like in the nineties. 444 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:53,960 And that's like, well, I guess I do need to actually pay attention 445 00:27:55,039 --> 00:27:59,000 a bit. I think that's right. All right, So we've read that 446 00:27:59,039 --> 00:28:04,799 one resrected the uncharitye Wolf. Is there a trophy for beating the game on 447 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,440 hard? You know what, I'm curious. I'm not sure. I hope 448 00:28:08,519 --> 00:28:11,599 not, because there is so much to do here. There's a great in 449 00:28:11,839 --> 00:28:15,640 game system for kind of one hundred percent of the game, beyond trophies that 450 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,559 frankly I would care more about anyways, And I'm so curious to see what 451 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,880 that reward is, because I think that was the thing in the last game. 452 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,400 I do hate that, where like maybe I do want to get a 453 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:27,680 platinum, so I'm playing game and I'm doing all this stuff, and then 454 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,599 I find out to get a plat to I have to play the whole game 455 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,839 again on hard not because I might play on hard mode. I just don't 456 00:28:33,839 --> 00:28:36,319 really want to play the whole game again right now. I'm not sure. 457 00:28:36,519 --> 00:28:38,599 It's definitely stuff like that that broke me on achievements and trophies, Like, 458 00:28:38,799 --> 00:28:42,119 no, that's completely the opposite of how I want to engage with these games. 459 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,519 Give me a leader board and I'll play with that instead. And then 460 00:28:45,759 --> 00:28:48,759 Kurt Pyres says, Mike, your positivity about this game has got me, 461 00:28:48,799 --> 00:28:53,400 somehow even more excited. Where did you end up landing on Final Fantasy sixteen? 462 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:56,799 Yeah, you know what, I still never really kind of went back 463 00:28:56,799 --> 00:28:59,799 to I never beat it, though, And when I went back to a 464 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,599 during the holidays, that session was a little rough because I was like, 465 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,559 I guess I gotta do some of these side missions. Side missions in that 466 00:29:07,599 --> 00:29:11,599 game are not very good. Fall Fantasy sixteen is not a bad game. 467 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,559 I think it's a lot about that's fun. But again, that's what I 468 00:29:14,559 --> 00:29:15,960 was talking about. They had to make kind of a lot of compromises to 469 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:22,519 make this sort of big, expensive looking game in terms of the actual scope 470 00:29:22,599 --> 00:29:26,880 of the gameplay, the characters and the world. Yeah, like these really 471 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,359 awesome boss fights and these really high moments and things like that. Another thing 472 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,839 too, And this was kind of my worry from the beginning, and I 473 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,480 even like tried to I was in denial about it. The Game of Thrones, 474 00:29:37,519 --> 00:29:40,240 this of it. Do not care for it. I don't. It 475 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:45,400 takes itself very seriously and everything is kind of a bit drab and dreary looking, 476 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,160 you know that kind of like that kind of medieval you could smell the 477 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:53,000 peasants from here aesthetic, Jeff, just not necessarily my thing. I still 478 00:29:53,279 --> 00:29:56,599 do need to go and bef on business and have like a real in a 479 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:02,279 better informed opinion on it. But like, look, obviously I did it, 480 00:30:02,319 --> 00:30:04,279 absolutely love it all right, would have beaten it by now clearly, 481 00:30:04,359 --> 00:30:10,200 yes. And I mean it's a very good game for about the first five 482 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:11,880 to ten hours, I think, and then after that it's like, oh, 483 00:30:12,119 --> 00:30:15,680 maybe this is wearing out. It's welcome I think that's what Final Fantasy 484 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,759 sixteen is. There's something there. It's just not a well seen out game 485 00:30:18,799 --> 00:30:22,759 in terms of the doll for seeing out what they what they had and making 486 00:30:22,799 --> 00:30:26,200 it fun the entire time, at least in my opinion. All Right, 487 00:30:26,319 --> 00:30:29,359 that does it for the super chets that our Final Fantasy related. Let's get 488 00:30:29,359 --> 00:30:32,279 to some of these other topics. If anyone else has any other Final Fantasy 489 00:30:32,359 --> 00:30:34,519 seven rebirth questions, though Mike's going to be here the entire time, feel 490 00:30:34,519 --> 00:30:37,599 free to throw them at him as now, oh shit, oh god, 491 00:30:38,279 --> 00:30:45,599 leave me here. No, that Xbox stuff happened. That's my next thing 492 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,200 here before games, it's the four games everyone said they were going to be 493 00:30:48,559 --> 00:30:53,079 a high fi rush, Grounded, Sea of Thieves, and Pentiment. Two 494 00:30:53,119 --> 00:30:57,400 of those were announced at the Nintendo direct that we talked about on nintend Dogs 495 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:03,839 yesterday. Was Pentiment, which got stuck into a sizzle reel, and then 496 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,480 it was it was Grounded, surprising me a little bit. And then the 497 00:31:07,519 --> 00:31:10,920 other two are on PPS five. The guy ounce that later that day in 498 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:15,200 YouTube videos and hey, and now we're past that, and here we are. 499 00:31:15,519 --> 00:31:18,799 It's a whole different world and it doesn't feel all that different, but 500 00:31:18,039 --> 00:31:22,000 it definitely is like a step in a direction, a new direction a little 501 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:26,079 bit for Microsoft after all of that hubbabaloo. Mike, how are you feeling 502 00:31:26,079 --> 00:31:30,319 about all that stuff at this point? Yeah, it's a little weird, 503 00:31:30,359 --> 00:31:33,200 like, yeah, we are just kind of on the other side of it 504 00:31:33,279 --> 00:31:37,160 and here we are. I don't know, Jeff, I guess the question 505 00:31:37,359 --> 00:31:41,559 is still Okay, so what is the next step here? Right? Is 506 00:31:41,559 --> 00:31:44,640 it going to be like when we got you know, orient Cuppad where they 507 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:45,880 did that and then for a few years they kind of just did it again, 508 00:31:47,279 --> 00:31:51,720 or is this really floodgates opening. It's it's hard to say. We 509 00:31:51,759 --> 00:31:55,440 still need to see exactly where that is going to go. I mean, 510 00:31:55,519 --> 00:31:59,799 it doesn't immediately solve all of Xbox's problems though, that that's for sure. 511 00:32:00,279 --> 00:32:01,319 No, I mean the problems are only going to be solved if they put 512 00:32:01,319 --> 00:32:05,359 out great games. I mean, that's the only thing that can work. 513 00:32:05,359 --> 00:32:07,599 And even then they are in a situation where I think some people are like, 514 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,599 I don't want to get an Xbox just to play that game. Then 515 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,079 they might start thinking I'll just wait or I'll just play it on PC, 516 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:16,680 and that you know, whatever. If they're playing on PC and if they're 517 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:21,119 playing Microsoft's games, Microsoft really doesn't care. They really actually do not care. 518 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:23,759 But yeah, if they can get if they can put out some good 519 00:32:23,759 --> 00:32:29,680 games that people can't miss, that will just solve all the issues right there. 520 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:30,880 And they haven't done that. So that's why we continue to be in 521 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,920 this situation where we're like, oh, how are they When are they going 522 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:37,359 to figure this out? Well, we know when they just haven't actually done 523 00:32:37,359 --> 00:32:43,039 the thing to do that. I you know, I think there's a lot 524 00:32:43,079 --> 00:32:47,559 of Xbox fans who were concerned beforehand, then the news happened and they're like, 525 00:32:47,599 --> 00:32:51,160 oh, this is it, and then I think it's settled back in 526 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,359 as like, oh no, this is still that thing I was mostly worried 527 00:32:53,359 --> 00:32:58,200 about, which is this is them testing the waters and things are going to 528 00:32:58,279 --> 00:33:01,519 keep coming out. This is not the end of it, and I just 529 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,960 I kind of just want to say, like, yeah, this is the 530 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,519 reality. It's been this way for a long time, and this is them 531 00:33:08,559 --> 00:33:14,240 just kind of seeing it through and recognizing it. I don't know what else 532 00:33:14,279 --> 00:33:17,400 to tell you other than enjoy what you have and probably if you, if 533 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,839 you keep supporting Xbox, keep buying Xbox stuff. They're probably going to still 534 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,880 give you all the stuff you had before. Game Pass is still going to 535 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:28,400 be a focus for them, all the things you liked about Xbox are still 536 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,000 going to be Xbox. So kind of maybe just accept it and move on. 537 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:36,400 I don't know. Yeah, it's all true, and that Elbaiti's a 538 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,440 silly and maybe this is wrong things up. You put a gun in my 539 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,480 head, you know, like, do you think Xbox is much of a 540 00:33:42,519 --> 00:33:45,279 thing, say, fifteen years from now. I wonder what my answer would 541 00:33:45,319 --> 00:33:49,680 be. I wonder if what my answer would be. It's not no guaranteed 542 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,599 thing. I mean as a I mean, they will definitely still be putting 543 00:33:52,599 --> 00:33:59,000 out games under something called Microsoft Gaming by that point, and definitely maybe maybe 544 00:33:59,039 --> 00:34:02,039 even Xbox, but uh, the as we know it today, I would 545 00:34:02,079 --> 00:34:07,360 not say yes necessarily shift and then yeah, go ahead. Well what do 546 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:12,000 you think about like how they treated pentiment, because like that's crazy to me. 547 00:34:12,039 --> 00:34:17,559 They showed that but asked ugly version of they give it like five seconds 548 00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:22,679 of pentiment, Like that's crazy to me. Yeah, I mean a lot 549 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,679 of people feel that way. I just I don't because I mean, I 550 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:30,519 maybe this is my self flagellation that I always do, Mike, you always 551 00:34:30,519 --> 00:34:34,079 accuse me of of like like not believe in my own opinions. I adore 552 00:34:34,119 --> 00:34:36,280 Pentiment. I love it. I think it's one of the best things ever. 553 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:42,039 And I'm like, that's just me. Fine, it looks fine, 554 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,199 fine. I think it's a little while person. I don't think it's a 555 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:50,239 big deal, but if if for nothing else, because it is the thing 556 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,960 that you know, it's it's a big deal that another Xbox game is coming 557 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:58,239 to switch it is. That's a very good game. And there were other 558 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,280 games that got their own segments that just words much at all. It's like, 559 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,679 look, I'm not saying that it needed like a minute, but give 560 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:10,280 it fifteen seconds of like its own voiceover and its own thing. At least. 561 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:15,280 It was a little weird to be Let's Ockham's Razor it though they just 562 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:22,239 announced Ground It has twenty million players. Pentiment does not, and it was 563 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,440 like, hey, what are these fucking games, because it's they don't know 564 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,559 what ground it is even if as twenty million players, let alone Pentiment, 565 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:34,440 and Microsoft goes well, Ground has twenty million players and Pentiment does not, 566 00:35:34,679 --> 00:35:37,679 and they're like okay, well, ground It gets this featured slot and we'll 567 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:44,719 throw Pentiment into the sizzle reels. That's what happened. Do you think Xbox 568 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:49,480 is maybe a little bit less than thrilled about that? Are they in a 569 00:35:49,519 --> 00:35:52,679 position? I mean probably, but I mean they're not in a position to 570 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:58,280 do much about it. I mean, you're you're ask you another company of 571 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,000 advertiser games for you. But yeah, I don't know. Yes, in 572 00:36:02,079 --> 00:36:07,559 a perfect world, pentom It gets a slot that is worthy of its quality, 573 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,519 which is featured right there, and they make a big deal about it. 574 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,960 To me, it's such a good game. It could have been a 575 00:36:13,039 --> 00:36:15,159 one last thing. That's how much I loved that game. That's what Brilli 576 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,079 It's that was never going to be on the table for that game. It 577 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:25,880 just wasn't. Eldern Ring DLC June twenty first Shadow of the Air Tree. 578 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:30,840 It's forty dollars. They had a trailer kind of all I needed to see 579 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,800 was that three minute video showing that off. Although Miyazaki hit a talk of 580 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,119 Miyazaki's out there doing some interviews talking about it, saying it's like, yeah, 581 00:36:37,159 --> 00:36:39,679 it's a whole new place, it's a it's really big. I made 582 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:45,079 another poison Swamp. They had this great quote about He's like, you know 583 00:36:45,159 --> 00:36:46,880 what, I did make another poison Swamp, and I was making him like 584 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:52,039 a moment of self reflection. I just really like making these things, and 585 00:36:52,079 --> 00:36:54,719 I hope when people play it they can feel that retrospection. I'm like, 586 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:59,119 fuck, yeah, made me exactly feel it. We absolutely feel it. 587 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:04,360 I'm very excited about this. I I've been like, hey, looking for 588 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,800 a reason and maybe go back and play Elden Ring. Not gonna be able 589 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,760 to justify it until this happens, And now in June, I'm going to 590 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:13,280 be doing exactly that. So this is very cool, are you. It's 591 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,199 just something like you are going to make time for this year? Oh yeah. 592 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:19,039 Like saying this again, it's like, man, Older Ring did Rule 593 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,719 did in And it's almost like it's almost been hard for me to even think 594 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,760 about it because we've had a lot happens. It's Older came out, even 595 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:30,880 though it's only been a couple of years, if like a completely different reality 596 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,760 ago. But looking at this and knowing that it is all this new content 597 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,039 I'm super ready for. I don't really know how like it works with these 598 00:37:37,079 --> 00:37:40,280 the DLC, so I just pick up like an old character. Do I 599 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:44,719 make a new character for these kind of things? I don't know either. 600 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,159 Yeah, I mean, listen, I have my either, I have my 601 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:51,360 save in the cloud on Steam, so I'm gonna be good whatever they need 602 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,480 it for me. So yeah, then the old in other games they used 603 00:37:54,519 --> 00:37:59,840 to, like the DLC used to like unlocked after a certain point in this 604 00:38:00,039 --> 00:38:02,920 story. So sure, it's probably the same here. Like maybe you like 605 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,440 you're like level fifteen and you get to this boss and you be this boss 606 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:14,559 and then you get like a branching path to that deal. S uh real 607 00:38:14,639 --> 00:38:15,440 quick, We're going to take a break here in a second. But I 608 00:38:15,519 --> 00:38:21,480 just don't like going back to the Xbox stuff just for a second. When 609 00:38:21,519 --> 00:38:22,639 I'm getting ready for these shows, usually what I'll do is I'll throw on 610 00:38:22,679 --> 00:38:27,920 YouTube and I'll see some other like podcast are live, and uh, you 611 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,440 know, I got a whole collectic mix in there, because I've guessed on 612 00:38:30,519 --> 00:38:34,199 a bunch of podcasts and I've listened to those and I've and I'm always checking 613 00:38:34,199 --> 00:38:36,320 stuff out, and so I turn on one that I know is kind of 614 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,559 a PlayStation leaning one and to hear them still talking about like and like these 615 00:38:39,559 --> 00:38:43,519 are people who like lean PlayStation. To hear them still talking about how much 616 00:38:44,039 --> 00:38:46,079 like game passes a problem and all this, and it's still talk about Xbox. 617 00:38:46,119 --> 00:38:50,400 It's like, guys, you won Can you just move on? Final 618 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,800 Fantasy seven Rebirth is coming out, Just go talk about that instead. How 619 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:59,119 are you still having these same arguments at a certain point, there is a 620 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,599 sickness here that needs to be addressed. I just I don't get it. 621 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:07,199 So it's still gonna be weird out there. Don't expect that all the Kumbayas 622 00:39:07,199 --> 00:39:09,440 are going to last through Hell Divers too. All that stuff's a lie. 623 00:39:09,519 --> 00:39:13,880 That's only on TikTok. The real freaks out there still be an absolute fucking 624 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,880 free hold. Divers two is piece. Piece is democracy. It's happening. 625 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:21,000 It's happening, all right. We are going to take a break. When 626 00:39:21,039 --> 00:39:22,039 we get back, we'll hit the rest of these super chats, and then 627 00:39:22,079 --> 00:39:24,199 we'll get what we're gonna do for the rest of this show, including the 628 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:30,480 mount rushmore of j RPGs into that right after this and we're back, Mike. 629 00:39:30,559 --> 00:39:35,840 We got a bunch of super chats. I favorited the ones that I 630 00:39:36,039 --> 00:39:37,800 read. I don't know if that shows up for you in YouTube. If 631 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,679 not, I could just read the ones that I know have not been read 632 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,039 so far. Let me know. Yeah, maybe you should take care of 633 00:39:44,119 --> 00:39:45,519 it this time. I will take care of that this time. Okay, 634 00:39:45,599 --> 00:39:47,719 So let's go back here to l Grugg, who says, I know it 635 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:52,079 goes against the Minati moral code, but Mike should really look up some of 636 00:39:52,119 --> 00:39:54,880 the bosses. At the end of Mortal Kombat Mythologies. There is some BS. 637 00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,679 I'll let you answer this because I think you're you wouldn't. No, 638 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,360 Look, well, how many more are there? God Jesus. Now, 639 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:09,000 look, he's not gonna do it before he sees him initially. We'll get 640 00:40:09,039 --> 00:40:13,280 to a point where it becomes a problem, we'll deal with it. That's 641 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,639 what happened with Fudjin. Like I gave it a good try that after a 642 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,039 while, I was just like, Jeff, you got it. Somebody's gotta 643 00:40:17,039 --> 00:40:20,760 tell me what to do here. I just don't know. It's insane. 644 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:25,679 Imagine if I never told you to hang on the edge. I knew I 645 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:30,039 had, like for one thing I wanted to tell you, but I knew 646 00:40:30,039 --> 00:40:34,039 as soon as we got out of there, there would be five thousand righteous 647 00:40:34,199 --> 00:40:37,159 people just rushing to tell you what to do because they would be like, 648 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,000 no, this is completely unfair, we have to do something. It is 649 00:40:39,039 --> 00:40:43,760 still definitely the most bullshit thing in that I mean, I can't believe it. 650 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:50,000 Like there are bullshit like Mario Maker Levels, Super Mario Brothers two is 651 00:40:50,079 --> 00:40:52,079 like a game like Japanese one is like nothing but bullshit, And none of 652 00:40:52,159 --> 00:40:58,760 that stuff matches that moment in that game because it's just completely bespoke. It's 653 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:00,920 unhinged, is and I like that word gets through. I use that word 654 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,599 a lot. I mean it here like there is something deeply wrong with the 655 00:41:04,639 --> 00:41:07,960 people that made that part of that game. Yes, it's insane. Uh 656 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:14,079 justin Cheryl says, have you checked out American Arcadia puzzle platformer with a story 657 00:41:14,119 --> 00:41:16,519 of Truman Show plus Epcot, Slash Walt Disney, My Hit and Jim of 658 00:41:16,559 --> 00:41:22,199 twenty twenty three Next Game Club? What's it called again, American Arcadia? 659 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,079 I've heard about this, I haven't checked that. I've got my brother Chris 660 00:41:24,119 --> 00:41:28,159 a little like that. By the way, Happy fortieth birthday to my older 661 00:41:28,199 --> 00:41:35,400 brother aj About Happy birthday, Ash Guy Mark character, You're you're the true 662 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,800 star of the game mess whenever you're on true it's true. Conall Woods says 663 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:44,880 Suicide Squad, I dipped below five hundred Steam users. Yikes, man, 664 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,559 what up? Yeah? How worried are you? Because I am definitely at 665 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:52,079 is rock Steady And I don't mean to like speculate wildly of this. I 666 00:41:52,199 --> 00:41:55,840 am at is rock Steady going to be okay levels of worried. I mean, 667 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,159 yeah, listen, we don't know, and it does feel it feels 668 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:07,639 insensitive in callous to be like, Okay, now let's speculate about the fate 669 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:13,719 of these people's livelihoods. But I mean to be a little callous. I 670 00:42:14,039 --> 00:42:16,880 think that they will probably get a chance to get a rebound game in there, 671 00:42:19,119 --> 00:42:22,400 whether or not that's actually seen through by a company as fickle as WB 672 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:28,000 I just don't know. And really, the people who did not get out 673 00:42:28,039 --> 00:42:30,639 when while the getting was good, where we saw several people leave that studio 674 00:42:30,679 --> 00:42:35,440 in the last couple of years, who's going to stick around? Really, 675 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,159 if they can leave, they're gonna leaves. It sucks. It sucks. 676 00:42:38,199 --> 00:42:42,960 It's a terrible thing that happened with that studio. All right. A bunch 677 00:42:43,039 --> 00:42:45,480 more funnel fantasy questions big Jim o' ryan says, as I said last summer, 678 00:42:45,679 --> 00:42:50,960 I don't know where Ridge Racer six is. All right, well this 679 00:42:51,119 --> 00:42:52,800 I'll be coming back over your house this summer and we'll talk about it then, 680 00:42:53,079 --> 00:42:55,119 all right, Jim, Jim, we made a six. We made 681 00:42:55,119 --> 00:42:58,559 a seven also. Then you don't even know where we are in this series. 682 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:00,960 If you need to, I know you were doing a lot of research 683 00:43:01,079 --> 00:43:05,360 on on Ridge Racer. You know what the last number was. You could 684 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,920 tell us, all right, now the last number was? I would I 685 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:13,480 would probably just guess seven. Well, that's right. It's funny that you 686 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:15,400 framed as a guest because you're so sure. Yeah that's seven. Yeah, 687 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:19,320 I'm just so sure. Listen, don't want to let on on what I 688 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,320 know and don't know. Mike, I'm sorry, I get that position. 689 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:28,920 Yeah, thank you. Uh Toto Dio says, Hello, Spicy Bully or 690 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,199 Spicy Boys. Thanks for all your hard work and the hard work you guys 691 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:35,920 do. Here's for Mike's trip to Universal. We all demand pictures of Spider 692 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,079 Man when you are there. I'll get you a picture Spidery. Yeah, 693 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:43,079 to get me pictures of the Spider Man. Mike. He's been a busy 694 00:43:43,159 --> 00:43:46,159 boy. I'm sure I'm looking forward to going to Universal and just having some 695 00:43:46,679 --> 00:43:50,199 fun. Yeah. Yeah, it's like, i mean, like from my 696 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,079 position, like you've been kind of going NonStop for months now. I mean 697 00:43:52,119 --> 00:43:55,440 not that you all have hard working Yeah you are. You are man. 698 00:43:55,719 --> 00:44:00,440 Yeah, and it's been because you're always there to drop that when I'm like, 699 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:01,880 hey, last minute, could you do this thing? Kind of always 700 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:07,679 yes, So yeah, take some time to yourself. Uh ah right, 701 00:44:07,119 --> 00:44:09,000 not that I won't need you that way, I'm sure I'll still ask you 702 00:44:09,039 --> 00:44:13,639 to be on stuff. Ta Bucket twenty three says, have you guys seen 703 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:19,519 men Max's Thirst console video series? It's their Nintendo Waifu and Husbondo episode moment, 704 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,880 but they tier list their communities video game character crushes. No, that's 705 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,119 a good idea. I mean, that's that's where the real money's at. 706 00:44:25,639 --> 00:44:31,039 Yeah, we should go back and watch that segment someday react to our own 707 00:44:31,119 --> 00:44:36,679 content. Yeah, let's do it. Jedi Moss through us a super chat 708 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,800 they got retracted. That's always a good sign, Jedi Moss. If you 709 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,360 want to like put something in chat right now, we'll see if we can 710 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,960 grab it. Illuminati eighty five, says Jeff and Mike. Am I supposed 711 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,960 to be sad about old games coming to a company that just lost ten billion 712 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,400 dollars in market value seems more like a lifeline to me. Microsoft is not 713 00:44:53,559 --> 00:44:58,599 trying to help Sony here, They're trying to help themselves. Microsoft Xboxes needs 714 00:44:58,599 --> 00:45:01,239 to make more money. That's what the this is about. We've since we've 715 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:06,360 been saying, we've been saying for weeks and years. Even Yeah, Sony's 716 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,079 not in some great position, PlayStation's not in like some unas saleable position. 717 00:45:09,199 --> 00:45:13,800 They also are facing market headwinds and issues, and here it is, and 718 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,719 that's there's nothing new there. If you've been listening to the show, there 719 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,519 was a bay Leaf Boon superchap from like the beginning, ish, I don't 720 00:45:20,519 --> 00:45:22,000 know if you, uh god, I will let me, let me, 721 00:45:22,199 --> 00:45:24,079 let me have it right here. You want me to say it? Yeah, 722 00:45:24,119 --> 00:45:28,480 yeah, hit it please. Bailey's been said super hype for psv R 723 00:45:28,519 --> 00:45:32,400 two PC support Half Life Alex will be incredible on that hardware. I did 724 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:37,480 miss that. Yeah, I'm glad they are doing that. I it's kind 725 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,719 of the opposite of what I want, not the opposite what I really want. 726 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:45,760 Is just astro bought on all the other headsets and not the PlayStation headset 727 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:50,159 being to play every other game of sites from astrobot. Finally, Yeah, 728 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,800 good point. Yeah, I mean listen, that's it is good hardware. 729 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,400 If you already haven't and you get to connected to your PC, uh, 730 00:45:55,599 --> 00:46:00,480 that'll be great. You probably you'll probably have to buy a dongle'll probably be 731 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:05,360 the third party dongles that we'll work for it. It will I doubt just 732 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,920 an off the shelf dongle would work. I think that we heard from the 733 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:14,000 guy that did the PSVR hack and he was like, no, this is 734 00:46:14,039 --> 00:46:15,880 gonna be a lot more work than even I thought it would be. Now, 735 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,400 Sony would obviously be able to figure something out there, but you are 736 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,480 going to have to plug it into something and won't be able to plug right 737 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,880 to your GPU. Collin says in Final Fantasy seven Rebirth, can you drive 738 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:29,719 slash fly vehicles around a map or is it just through set paths that you 739 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:35,079 can do these things? You can ride everywhere? You know, because I 740 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,480 I know, like in fifteen you unlock like pure free flying after a certain 741 00:46:39,519 --> 00:46:44,599 point. I didn't do anything like that. There might be something in that 742 00:46:44,679 --> 00:46:49,440 game. I'm not sure there is, Like there are chocobos that kind of 743 00:46:49,559 --> 00:46:53,440 do gliding or like very base ish sort of Super Mario sixty four kind of 744 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:57,840 flying, but in limited places. So at least what I saw nothing like 745 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,280 complete free roaming flying, but it might be there. I might have missed 746 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:07,679 it. Kyle Barton says, happy birthday, Ash Guy, Happy birthday, 747 00:47:07,679 --> 00:47:12,079 Buddy. Uh robo. Jim says, hey grubbing, Mike giving the weird 748 00:47:12,159 --> 00:47:15,239 spot Sony seems to be in. Do you think Naughty Dog taking over the 749 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:20,360 Last of Us Part one remaster was ultimately a mistake. I thought it was 750 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,159 a mistake at the time. I get I mean, I get why Naughty 751 00:47:23,199 --> 00:47:25,320 Dog wanted it. It's like, hey, we have all these people on 752 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:29,280 staff. It would be nice if we gave them something to do, and 753 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,679 that is our game. We should be the ones to do that. But 754 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:39,519 I think overlooking the potential of bolstering another studio like Visual Arts Group was probably 755 00:47:39,519 --> 00:47:46,079 a mistake. Yeah, Alex says, accidentally Bilatrode myself last night started a 756 00:47:46,159 --> 00:47:49,519 game. Then the next thing I knew, it was six in the morning. 757 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,440 Jeff, please don't play this one while driving. Fucking stop me. 758 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:57,239 Then I've been playing a little bit of Blutcher when I can. It's really 759 00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,960 fun, but like not a ton so is. My time has been fun 760 00:48:00,039 --> 00:48:02,719 on Fancy Sevin, But I'm excited to play. I'll play while driving. 761 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:07,519 I saw you sneaking in some games today when I was on Steam. I 762 00:48:07,599 --> 00:48:12,199 was like, oh, there's Mike playing Bulatrum. Uh. Big Fresh thirty 763 00:48:12,199 --> 00:48:15,360 seven says Suicide Squad numbers looking rough, but at least it's way stronger than 764 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:21,840 Grounded. The play Captain Toad Okay, yes, look look. Grounded is 765 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:27,000 definitely probably a more successful game than Suicide Squad. That's probably true. Uh 766 00:48:27,679 --> 00:48:30,840 yes, Growded is not like a sixty dollars game if you were to buy 767 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:32,440 it by it outright right. I don't think anything. I have zero, 768 00:48:32,679 --> 00:48:37,719 probably not. I can't imagine. And Banada Eaters back says, what do 769 00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,559 we get first? New Ridge Racer or Diddy Kong Racing on Nintendo switch online? 770 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:46,239 Hey listen, just like imagine this Ridge Racer x Diddy Kong Racing. 771 00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:50,880 Oh my god, there it is, everybody. Yeah, well, well 772 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,639 are you are you teasing something from your investigations that you know something? Moving 773 00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:59,719 on, Christian says, why the super chats didty Kng's happening first? Yeah, 774 00:49:00,039 --> 00:49:02,920 Kung's happening first. Uh yeah, because Jeff those which ones were already 775 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:07,079 read, because he read a bunch of them already about fom Fantasy b Tradeing 776 00:49:07,119 --> 00:49:10,480 says, are console exclusives is anti competitive? Why do I need several pieces 777 00:49:10,519 --> 00:49:15,480 of small, similar hardware that are all capable of playing the same set of 778 00:49:15,519 --> 00:49:20,639 games. I mean, they're definitely not anti competitive, because they are about 779 00:49:20,679 --> 00:49:23,840 the byproduct of competitiveness. Like that's why they happen. So I will say 780 00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:29,039 when, like when Xbox was tweeting, like the blog post about the four 781 00:49:29,079 --> 00:49:30,920 games, like when games are available in more places, we all win, 782 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:36,559 it's more fun to play together. I was doing some grounded esque I rowing 783 00:49:36,639 --> 00:49:39,159 a little bit like, look, of course it's actually about money, and 784 00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,679 of course everything is they're not gonna say, but I still, like, 785 00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,079 you know, I was like, yeah, good, good, Yeah, 786 00:49:45,119 --> 00:49:51,679 you guys are real hero. Uh. I'm just I'm just glad to be 787 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,639 overrun Nintendo right now in a time where they're in a good position and it's 788 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,960 like, okay, they have of course my games are over here, and 789 00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,480 I don't have to worry about these other things. Like we were I had 790 00:50:00,079 --> 00:50:04,599 Lord Cognito, who is like he's got an Xbox guy on. He was 791 00:50:04,639 --> 00:50:07,599 on Game this Morning this week and he was about to say something negative about 792 00:50:07,639 --> 00:50:09,679 Nintendo. Nintendo would switch online the app and he's like, listen, I 793 00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,280 almost to step on your toes. So I'm like, oh no, you 794 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,239 don't understand. We hate that shit too. Like if you as a Nintendo 795 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:19,960 podcast person, that we yell at Nintendo way more than we ever yell about 796 00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,360 Sony or Microsoft. So it's like yeah, and that's It's like, I'm 797 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,159 glad to be in that position. I'd much rather just be mad at Nintendo 798 00:50:25,519 --> 00:50:30,239 than some other company. Uh all right? And then Christian is back, 799 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:34,719 when was this discussed the super chat thing? I mean you just weren't listening. 800 00:50:35,159 --> 00:50:36,960 Yeah, what do you want us to do? You were You're playing 801 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:38,039 Bulloch or something and not listening. Now you want to ye at us. 802 00:50:38,079 --> 00:50:40,639 I mean you're giving the money to go. I already pay for you this 803 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:45,039 month. You gotta fucking behave thank you for your super chests, Christian, 804 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:50,320 thank you. Christian is like this is like Jeff guy, Yeah, do 805 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,559 I have to pay you back for these yeah, this buck you a quarter. 806 00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:58,639 He's not some saints. Look, I don't know what this Argentinian money 807 00:50:58,679 --> 00:51:06,159 is that could be like. So that's how it's a little confusing because like 808 00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,079 the gold ones, the gold background ones usually indicate that it's worth about like 809 00:51:09,159 --> 00:51:17,400 ten dollars or something at all. It's definitely not boy oh boy, it's 810 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:22,360 it's very much not that sorry about your currency. Bro. All right, 811 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,920 it's gonna do it for the super chats. Cool. Uh now, Vample, 812 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:28,719 I get the thing. Well, you know what, let's just take 813 00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:30,440 a break. Take a break, we'll come back and we'll do the Mount 814 00:51:30,519 --> 00:51:35,079 Rushmore JRPGs. Thanks for sticking with this cloud show, everybody. It's been 815 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:40,159 help and we're back and we're doing the Mount Rushmore JRPGs. This is where 816 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:46,280 we put up four faces that are indicative of a certain idea or genre or 817 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:52,159 Thing'm a bob. This time it's j RPGs. Mike. I'm excited about 818 00:51:52,199 --> 00:51:54,880 this. Even if someone has never been like, oh, the j RPG 819 00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,519 guy. I've known a lot of g RPG guys. You're a j RPG 820 00:51:58,679 --> 00:52:01,800 guy. I've always I've been fond of them from not afar, but at 821 00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:07,079 least a safe distance arms length. I keep them there, but I still 822 00:52:07,119 --> 00:52:08,119 have, like always been paying a p attention to them because I think it's 823 00:52:08,119 --> 00:52:10,599 an important genre, one that I, like, I said, have a 824 00:52:10,639 --> 00:52:16,599 lot of fundness for. We are coming off of a big new JRPG release. 825 00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:20,119 I'll say it right now, it's hard to put a brand new game 826 00:52:20,159 --> 00:52:22,519 in here. I bet you're not even going to try to put Final Fantasy 827 00:52:22,559 --> 00:52:24,800 seven rebirth on here. No, but I mean, you know, and 828 00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,440 you know your perspective is gonna be helpful because it's Mount rushmore, right, 829 00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:32,760 I don't necessarily want just the like presidential historians experts on like Mount Rush. 830 00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:37,280 The point of Rush Boy is everyone knows who at least of those four guys, 831 00:52:37,519 --> 00:52:39,880 Like, yes, yeah, if you were going to make a tourist 832 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:44,000 trap, who what would you put up there to attract the tourists? Like 833 00:52:44,119 --> 00:52:46,280 that's what this is. Yes, and it's not just like most popular, 834 00:52:46,639 --> 00:52:51,440 but it's a born factor here, you know. But we're also going to 835 00:52:51,599 --> 00:52:52,760 like, look, we're not going to put like three Final Fantasy games on 836 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,800 here. It's we're going to try to do one per franchise for sure. 837 00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:02,800 That's very likely true, all right, so the mount rushmore of JRPGs, 838 00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,599 I know which one that I think I would put up there as like the 839 00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:14,159 standout, And it's probably because it's it has technically has sequels, but like, 840 00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,480 let's be real here, Crono Trigger kind of stands alone in a lot 841 00:53:16,519 --> 00:53:20,960 of ways, as like I think a lot of people's ideal of what a 842 00:53:21,039 --> 00:53:23,719 JRPG can be. Yeah, I think that's right. I think credit Trigger 843 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:29,159 still kind of gets brought up a lot of time as this like the the 844 00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:35,000 ideal especially of like that classic version of what a jar PG can be in 845 00:53:35,119 --> 00:53:38,280 that sixteen bit sense or that dominated the genre for all the time. It 846 00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:43,000 really is the ideal of that. It was at the time that this like 847 00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,480 incredible coming together of all these masterminds of the genre in you know, the 848 00:53:46,519 --> 00:53:52,239 two company square Enix before the merger, and it still holds up. It's 849 00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,679 still it's got everything that you want. It's got everything that you want from 850 00:53:55,079 --> 00:54:00,320 a really good j RPG. Right, it looks beautiful, the soundtrack is 851 00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:05,639 amazing, you have this really fun group of characters, fun battle system. 852 00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:10,840 Yeah, it is, it's the ideal. And then I mean, should 853 00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:14,000 we just get into the final fantasy stuff. Now, Yeah, I guess 854 00:54:14,039 --> 00:54:15,119 I'm curious, like, like, what do you think would be the one 855 00:54:15,199 --> 00:54:22,119 final Fantasy game, Mike, I'm forty Well, it's Final Fantasy six. 856 00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:27,400 I mean it's interesting. It's interesting you said six because I thought, I 857 00:54:27,519 --> 00:54:30,480 think in terms of Mount Rushmore, because I like six more than seven. 858 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:35,039 I do. I think in terms of Mount Rushmore, it's seven. I 859 00:54:35,119 --> 00:54:42,159 think I think today, based on the continued adoration for Final Fantasy seven, 860 00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,320 you are probably right. Yes, I think Final Fantasy seven has won that 861 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:49,239 war. And I'm I'm like at a point where I'm like, oh, 862 00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:55,280 I'm ready to admit that. I think that probably five years not even five 863 00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:59,440 years ago, even after Final Fantasy seven remake came out. I'm like, 864 00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:00,840 well, of course the doing that one, they know that you're a bunch 865 00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:02,679 of suckers, will play it for that game again. And now, of 866 00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:07,119 course it was a good game. But I think I still would have argued 867 00:55:07,119 --> 00:55:10,199 basically is what I'm saying today. I'm I'm not going to argue it. 868 00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:15,679 Really, I think you're probably right. If we're talking about indicative iconic of 869 00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:20,119 that franchise, it probably is Final Fantasy seven. And there are other fun 870 00:55:20,159 --> 00:55:22,280 facies that I like more than although I still like it a lot. But 871 00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:27,440 six was important for RPGs for sure. But the crow trigger is like very 872 00:55:27,559 --> 00:55:31,519 much of that oak anyways, and then seven was important for all of gaming 873 00:55:31,599 --> 00:55:35,880 in a lot of way. It was mainstream. There are a lot of 874 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,079 people that I know who don't even play that many video games, never played 875 00:55:38,079 --> 00:55:43,039 another JRPG again, who got like really into breeding a gold chok upon in 876 00:55:43,119 --> 00:55:45,639 that game. It was a giant mainstream thing. It's a game that if 877 00:55:45,679 --> 00:55:50,199 I think if we were to go to Jeff Bakolar and say start naming some 878 00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,760 important games, I think he would get the Final Fantasy seven relatively quickly. 879 00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,039 I mean, it's a big part why a PlayStation took off, really, 880 00:55:55,239 --> 00:56:00,360 righteah. I mean it's the marketing was the tone was so different than everything 881 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,239 else was happening, and they it was cool. It was cool. It 882 00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:06,480 took itself seriously in a way that's like, you know, it doesn't even 883 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,519 necessarily do anymore. But at the time, it's like, no, this 884 00:56:08,679 --> 00:56:13,960 is a big budget marketing campaign that's going to be in primetime television because it's 885 00:56:14,199 --> 00:56:16,760 just that important. And I believed them, and like this is like not 886 00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,800 a big deal now, but at the time, the fact that it wasn't 887 00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:24,239 a super pure fund like fantasy setting was really interesting, right, more steampunky, 888 00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:29,480 more sci fi. I yeah, I do think in terms of Mount 889 00:56:29,639 --> 00:56:34,360 Rushmore, it's got to be seven as the representative for the franchise, all 890 00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:40,360 right, got it up there? Uh listen, I I hope there's not 891 00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:44,960 too much pushback here, but I maybe there could be. I think Super 892 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:51,880 Mario RPG SHO should be up there, of course, yeah, because like 893 00:56:52,679 --> 00:56:57,079 it's almost to me, Super Mario RPG's almost the Abraham Lincoln where it's like, 894 00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:00,840 oh, like yeah, sure there were presidents before that, but this 895 00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:05,039 is the one that made them fun. You know, Abram Lincoln, Free 896 00:57:05,119 --> 00:57:07,719 the Slaves, super Bowl RPG made RPG's fun, basically the same thing. 897 00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:13,039 You get what I'm saying, Yeah, Uh, I get it. I 898 00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,480 don't dismiss it out right. It's a it's a little hard for me because 899 00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,159 there's gonna be a lot of games we're not gonna be able to get on 900 00:57:17,239 --> 00:57:20,599 here, and it's like, man, even in the j RPG thing, 901 00:57:20,639 --> 00:57:23,440 we got to make room for Mario. But look like you're right, the 902 00:57:23,519 --> 00:57:28,519 kind of like time hits thing is still in a lot of RPGs to this 903 00:57:28,679 --> 00:57:32,800 day. It was a lot of people's first rpg and it's it is a 904 00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:36,960 very good game. I think as we're considering, I think it might be 905 00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:39,639 it might be tough. It's also going to be like, it's gonna be 906 00:57:39,679 --> 00:57:44,079 Square Enix heavy in here already. That would be the third Square the next 907 00:57:44,159 --> 00:57:49,119 game. Yeah, well, I mean, yeah, what are we what 908 00:57:49,199 --> 00:57:52,159 are we supposed to do about that? It's certainly not because it's like, 909 00:57:52,239 --> 00:57:54,280 what are we gonna replace this with? Well, I mean Square, We're 910 00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:58,639 gonna a Square Enix game. We're gonna replace the Dragonquaces is probably gonna go 911 00:57:58,719 --> 00:58:00,679 up the right. You're right, So that's the That's kind of my next 912 00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:02,519 question, which is definitely at least some more on the Enix side. I 913 00:58:02,639 --> 00:58:07,800 suppose you could argue, but Marbigi is a little bit on the side we're 914 00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:14,280 spreading love. It's a little hard for me to say which Dragon quest because 915 00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,360 I think, yeah, go ahead, what do you think? I mean, 916 00:58:20,159 --> 00:58:22,760 it's it's tough because you're right, because like I think at this point, 917 00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:28,880 if we could get away with just putting uh eleven up there, But 918 00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,360 it feels like, man, that one seems like it's such a culmination of 919 00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:36,480 everything came before, So maybe we need one from before that. But because 920 00:58:36,519 --> 00:58:39,199 it's yeah, I don't know, maybe just Dragon Quest one. Yeah, 921 00:58:39,239 --> 00:58:43,320 that's I'm kind of I have three thoughts. It could be eleven because it 922 00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:49,119 is a culmination, it's the best one for sure. Could be one because 923 00:58:49,159 --> 00:58:52,679 it's it's the first j RPG. It really is like that, that's where 924 00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:57,079 we get everything else. It's even before the first Model Fantasy. Or it's 925 00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:00,599 three, which is the ideal of that kind of original vision of it and 926 00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:04,960 was the one when the series like really kind of became I think, a 927 00:59:05,079 --> 00:59:08,440 big, mega mega hit. I see I see a lot of people suggesting 928 00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:13,239 three, eleven or one in chat. We could maybe just put the three 929 00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:16,039 options for now, but it would be one of those three, I think. 930 00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,280 And then I think there should be a persona and I think I think 931 00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:29,360 you probably do do Persona three, which I think that I revitalized the Jerechy 932 00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:35,559 genre to me in alarm of Sorry, yeah, I mean that gave it 933 00:59:35,679 --> 00:59:37,000 seemed like it was sort of dwindling a bit, and it was kind of 934 00:59:37,159 --> 00:59:40,559 in for rough times in that PS three era in a lot of ways. 935 00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,760 And I know it's a PS two game, but it was a late PS 936 00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:47,039 two game, but a time where jerezes were feeling stagnant. All of a 937 00:59:47,039 --> 00:59:52,480 sudden, this, for instance, that wasn't new necessarily but suddenly came out 938 00:59:52,639 --> 00:59:58,679 and became popular and kind of became this new pillar for the genre. That 939 00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:02,199 was a pretty big deal to me. I think four is better. I 940 01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:05,039 see a lot of people say four in chat, but I mean, it's 941 01:00:05,079 --> 01:00:09,199 just four is so similar to three and three is It's not like it's not 942 01:00:09,519 --> 01:00:14,000 quite like, oh, I'm trying to say this in a way. It's 943 01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:15,679 not gonna make people max. That's I'm not trying to do it. Just 944 01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:19,599 this is just illustrative, illustrative like Far Cry four. It feels like a 945 01:00:19,639 --> 01:00:22,599 continuation of Far Cry three. It's not Persona four is not quite that to 946 01:00:22,639 --> 01:00:27,679 Persona three, but persona three. Persona Foor's idea and identity definitely started with 947 01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,079 three. And I think it's if we're talking about like, what do you 948 01:00:30,159 --> 01:00:35,920 say is indicative of this idea, it's persona three. I want to ask 949 01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:37,800 you so now, because I see a lot of people chesting this, I 950 01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:42,239 know how I feel about it. How do you feel about including Pokemon in 951 01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:52,760 this category? Yeah, it's kind of hard to argue against in terms of 952 01:00:52,679 --> 01:00:55,880 sure, me, what are they? What's like? Yeah, what is 953 01:00:55,920 --> 01:01:00,199 the argument against it? I didn't like the last couple very much. I 954 01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:04,599 don't know my argument it gets it is that I think a lot. I 955 01:01:04,679 --> 01:01:07,400 don't know, Like what if if I did like like one of those like 956 01:01:07,519 --> 01:01:12,440 word graph things, like what the words you identify it with? Pokemon definitely 957 01:01:12,599 --> 01:01:15,480 is a j RPG. I think the words JPG would not would be very 958 01:01:15,599 --> 01:01:21,000 small if on there at all. It does feel like it's sort of superseded 959 01:01:21,079 --> 01:01:23,599 the genre and it kind of is its own thing in some ways. But 960 01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:28,920 yeah, if people are like want to be a stickler about it, I 961 01:01:29,119 --> 01:01:34,960 understand that at the very least, I'll say, like, oh, if 962 01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,280 we we left it off, and it does feel like super MARPG is going 963 01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,639 to get the gun to the head here pretty soon, and what we have 964 01:01:39,719 --> 01:01:43,840 here is Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy A cron Trigger Final Fantasy seven, Dragon 965 01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:47,039 Quest, and Persona three. Uh poke, Pokemon being left off of that, 966 01:01:47,719 --> 01:01:52,320 it doesn't wouldn't look that shocking to me. No, No, I 967 01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,280 mean, yeah, again, there's something about it's not it's not it's not 968 01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:59,239 a very j RPG. Yes, j RPG right, sure, yeah, 969 01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:04,000 yeah, Like you look at you, you don't really have your your party 970 01:02:04,079 --> 01:02:08,079 and the found family stuff and all the stuff you associated. I mean maybe 971 01:02:08,119 --> 01:02:10,280 it's just that's a me thing and maybe like a lot of people are like 972 01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:14,880 obviously a lot of people in chat think Pokemon rates here, and of course 973 01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:16,719 it does. But like I said, I just don't think I would be 974 01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:21,719 if I looked at that list and I saw someone else doing it and I 975 01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:23,880 saw those four games and Pokemon wasn't up there. I don't know if Pokemon 976 01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:27,000 would occur to me anytime soon. It's be like, oh, well where's 977 01:02:27,039 --> 01:02:30,000 Pokemon? Yeah, I think, yeah, exactly, it's it's I don't 978 01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:32,119 say it's being pedantic, because I do get it, but it's just I 979 01:02:32,159 --> 01:02:35,800 don't know, you know, you know, you know what when you see 980 01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:37,880 a kind of thing, I'm like, no, I don't I don't see 981 01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:42,280 Pokemon not being on here being a problem. Uh we did. I don't 982 01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:45,239 think we did a discord for the podcast producer. So people are just throwing 983 01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:49,880 stuff out. I don't know how many more really weird. We're even gonna 984 01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:52,320 be able to consider because people are throwing out like Xeno Bladant, Zeno Gears, 985 01:02:52,599 --> 01:02:55,800 and just know, Zeno Gears is like the one that I think of 986 01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:59,559 as like, well, yeah that came out and people paid attention to it 987 01:02:59,599 --> 01:03:01,199 because they Final Fantasy seven and they were looking for something to fill in that 988 01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:05,400 gap or they were like, when they're not playing one of the Final Fantasies, 989 01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:07,320 they wanted to be playing Zeno Gears. It's like that lives in those 990 01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:12,280 games. It's a shadow and not that it doesn't surpass it for some people. 991 01:03:12,559 --> 01:03:15,400 But again, we're talking about the rush more worthy games here and that's 992 01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:17,400 not Zeno Gears. Yeah, what are you gonna say, Christian? Yeah, 993 01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:20,960 we have a thread going on if you want to check it out. 994 01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,599 O we do, Okay, I'll pop over there and then Fire and Bloom 995 01:03:23,599 --> 01:03:27,440 Awakening, which I believe you don't even think it's a j RPG. Well 996 01:03:27,519 --> 01:03:30,519 look it is, but like I think of strategy games is kind of a 997 01:03:30,519 --> 01:03:32,480 different thing. It definitely are strategy games that are much more on that j 998 01:03:32,639 --> 01:03:37,960 RPG side. If you motherfuckers put a fire Emblem game house list and not 999 01:03:37,119 --> 01:03:49,159 pokem on right now, Yeah, this game. Those are they just dragon 1000 01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:52,880 quest? I kept my mouth shut during that slander, but we should really 1001 01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:57,320 move on to that thread right now. Yeah, there's one more I want 1002 01:03:57,360 --> 01:03:59,880 to bring up before we go to the thread as a maybe possibility here is 1003 01:04:00,039 --> 01:04:02,960 weak It in two, which I think is like probably the most talked about 1004 01:04:03,119 --> 01:04:08,920 like j RPG for j RPG fans, right, like the real j rpg 1005 01:04:09,239 --> 01:04:12,840 s. J RPG It's like when you decide I want to I want to 1006 01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:17,320 become more serious about my my opinions of j RPGs, Like some a man 1007 01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:20,440 and a cloak will go to your door and say, all right, time 1008 01:04:20,519 --> 01:04:24,480 to play sweak It in two. That's like your mission, right. He's 1009 01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,679 the like when you're through the Gateway drugs, Like it's the same guy that 1010 01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:30,320 sells you heroin when you're done with marijuana, he also gives you sweak it 1011 01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:35,119 In when you're done with Pokemon. All right, podcast producers, guys, 1012 01:04:35,159 --> 01:04:38,199 I'm gonna get through these. Like I said, I'm not feeling too great, 1013 01:04:38,239 --> 01:04:42,239 so we're gonna probably bounce through these pretty quick. Tonight, Joyz mentions 1014 01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:46,519 Persona and then it's this persona five. That's fine. Yes, the red 1015 01:04:46,559 --> 01:04:50,320 one right is five, right is five? Okay? Casual says like a 1016 01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:56,480 Dragon infinite wealth Yakuza games were beat them up for a long time and then 1017 01:04:56,519 --> 01:05:00,880 the recent like a Dragon games have been straight up j RPGs, very inspired 1018 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:06,400 by a future Mount Rushmore Resident Dragon Quest. Yeah so yeah, uh Velocity 1019 01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:13,159 Prime Sys Corono Trigger Jamie H. Christmas Eve says Final Fantasy Tactics Advance. 1020 01:05:14,599 --> 01:05:15,840 Yeah, it's just not the final Fantasy game that's gonna get up there. 1021 01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:20,559 Dan Fiasco says Final Fantasy six sweaking in two Zeno gears in Chrono Trigger Corona 1022 01:05:20,559 --> 01:05:27,519 trigger Mount was we say chronoo chronological? I got a chronic illness, yeah, 1023 01:05:28,239 --> 01:05:31,159 and I only a trader can curate like a Dylan Infinite Well says Final 1024 01:05:31,199 --> 01:05:38,000 Fantasy six. Bench j C says Trails into Reverie the Legend of Hero series. 1025 01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:40,760 Yeah, that's the newest one. I mean, if there was going 1026 01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:42,960 to be a trophy for me, a probably into this guy. I think 1027 01:05:43,719 --> 01:05:46,119 all series. There's a ton of entries. There's still an obscureness about it 1028 01:05:46,199 --> 01:05:51,880 that isn't quite Mount Rushmore level for me. Very good. It's a fun 1029 01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:57,400 series, though it's a very j RPGs like JRBG super fan kind of series 1030 01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:00,440 for sure. Final Laya seven re E says, I have many thoughts, 1031 01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:04,840 but let's say this, and I believe this might be Lea's a joker tattoo 1032 01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:09,599 for Persona five. Yes, more Persona five. People love Persona five. 1033 01:06:09,679 --> 01:06:14,599 Man, that's a good tattoo. Matt Raremukey says, Skies of Arcadia legends 1034 01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:17,840 that like Ruther B. Hayes, so not going to be up there, 1035 01:06:18,079 --> 01:06:21,719 but there you go. Or often worth mentioning is Cleveland, the guy who 1036 01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:25,880 was like elected, lost in and came back. It's like this is the 1037 01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:32,599 Cleveland of sure exactly, and you're thinking of Trump. That's a Jeremy Biff 1038 01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:41,559 says Zeno Blake Chronicles Two Crashes, We Crashes Basketball says it fucking counts Paper 1039 01:06:41,639 --> 01:06:45,920 Mario the thousand Year Door. Listen, we're doing any of the Mario RPGs, 1040 01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:48,920 it would be super Mario rpg. Uh and even that's not gonna make 1041 01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:56,199 it always be Clothing Slash Corgy says a poignant, poignant story about sacrifice, 1042 01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:59,920 family trauma, and intentionally awkward laughter on top of an incredible combat. Syst 1043 01:07:00,039 --> 01:07:04,360 to Boot Final Fantasy ten Adam Juice says Tails to Simponia, that would probably 1044 01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:09,519 be the Tails game is Symphonia just in terms of kind of like it's endearing 1045 01:07:09,599 --> 01:07:13,320 popularity, although I like Vesperia more, but yeah, that would be the 1046 01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:15,519 Tails representative. Simponi is the one that you just hear about the most, 1047 01:07:15,559 --> 01:07:18,320 for sure. Yeah, people talk about all the time. Boptol Bop to 1048 01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:25,280 see Bob and Rebop says Pokemon Heart gold and Soul silver. He says it's 1049 01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:28,679 an ARPG dammit. So yeah, that's part of my problem with the like 1050 01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:30,880 an argument against these games making on the mount rest woar, you all keep 1051 01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:34,719 having to remind me it's a j RPG for some reason. Well, maybe 1052 01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:38,079 they just know you well enough that they know they're gonna have to yell at 1053 01:07:38,079 --> 01:07:41,480 you. Maybe this is you thing. Maybe it's a b thing he sptical 1054 01:07:41,559 --> 01:07:46,400 possibility. The tecnd Will five says earth Bound. Maybe I know we're not, 1055 01:07:46,599 --> 01:07:48,960 I mean, you aren't, like we are not people for it, 1056 01:07:49,039 --> 01:07:55,800 but it's like, I bet it's more influential than I even realize. I 1057 01:07:55,880 --> 01:08:00,960 bet that's for sure. Yes, Tommy Pencils, says elden Ring, which 1058 01:08:01,039 --> 01:08:06,079 is an interesting poll. I think sure. I mean once you start getting 1059 01:08:06,119 --> 01:08:09,480 more like action RPGs is just kind of a different thing to me. Like 1060 01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:12,599 I wouldn't put Kingdom Hearts on here things like that. It's that's just a 1061 01:08:12,639 --> 01:08:17,479 different thing, uh, Alex A Go Go says sweak it in two Yeah, 1062 01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:20,840 yeah, it's important. Alex's please be one of the four marpgs are 1063 01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:25,720 going to put on here and give the spots. That is kind of how 1064 01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:27,920 I feel. I'm like, I just don't know if I could put a 1065 01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,960 Mario game on here and like be like, yeah, we kept sweaking in 1066 01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:33,199 two off so that we can give Mario this spot. I just think I 1067 01:08:33,239 --> 01:08:35,880 could do it. I get it. They just you should tell the other 1068 01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:41,239 RPG developers to make their games better. Uh. Screaming Batten says like a 1069 01:08:41,319 --> 01:08:45,039 Dragon, Yeah, Yakuza like a Dragon. Uh, definitely a great j 1070 01:08:45,199 --> 01:08:50,520 RPG. Alex says Kingdom Hearts. Jeff God, I don't give a ship 1071 01:08:53,199 --> 01:08:55,600 again. Like, action rpg is kind of a different thing than me. 1072 01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:03,520 Two x ko apologist Eden says Dragon Quest eight. That's maybe that's one that 1073 01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:06,119 we should go with, because that's definitely what I do think of pretty early 1074 01:09:06,159 --> 01:09:09,199 on when I start thinking of dressing. Yet you know when I was like 1075 01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:13,000 in my big dragon quest like face, this was the one I played, 1076 01:09:13,039 --> 01:09:15,960 and there was so much hype with it that after like you know, like 1077 01:09:15,039 --> 01:09:18,720 seven hours, that's when I stopped. Actually I was like, well maybe 1078 01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:21,199 three then. I don't know, we'll see. It might be three, 1079 01:09:21,399 --> 01:09:26,600 It might be three. DMC depressed me crying, says In Kirby Star Allies, 1080 01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:29,840 you form a party and can add a stronger party members as you progress, 1081 01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:31,399 level up your moves with different elemental styles, and at the end of 1082 01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:34,520 it then goes on for quite some time, and I think we're just gonna 1083 01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:41,479 say, nice try valiant effort has for the first sane person, says super 1084 01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:45,439 Mario RPG. Corley pussays Golden Sun the Lost Age. You're gonna get to 1085 01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:47,800 that anytime soon, Mike, Yeah, I do still want to. There's 1086 01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:50,560 some other things I'm definitely doing first, Like there's a lot of Persona three 1087 01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:55,279 I still have to play. I liked the first Golden Sun. I imagine 1088 01:09:55,319 --> 01:09:57,920 that I'm sure it's better, but I'm sure it's still pretty similar. I 1089 01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:00,319 don't know if the storytelling, which was my big hang up in the first 1090 01:10:00,319 --> 01:10:02,840 one, is going to Sully make such an improvement that. I think it's 1091 01:10:03,359 --> 01:10:08,880 like one of the four most essential JRPGs ever. Doctor Ryan says Final Fantasy 1092 01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:12,159 seven. Octo says, oh, Moon, God man, it's the one 1093 01:10:12,159 --> 01:10:15,039 I hadn't thought about in a couple of years since that was it a remake 1094 01:10:15,119 --> 01:10:17,279 or remaster or re release got came out. I know a lot of people 1095 01:10:17,399 --> 01:10:21,039 like this game. What's my I don't even know if I I kind of 1096 01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:27,840 basically remember this game. Moon is the one I like the undertail person called 1097 01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:30,239 out right and I'm interesting like and then everyone like started playing it because of 1098 01:10:30,279 --> 01:10:33,680 that, I thought, I know there's a lot of fondness for this in 1099 01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:39,319 certain scenes. Uh. Michael Riley says, Final Fantasy seven is a lock. 1100 01:10:39,399 --> 01:10:42,159 I know you're going to want to pick six, but six, Mike, 1101 01:10:42,399 --> 01:10:44,279 but think of the children. Now, I was the one that wanted 1102 01:10:44,279 --> 01:10:47,319 to do was reasonable. Don't worry. I know what's up. Which game 1103 01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:51,199 is this? Is? This? Is this Rebirth? That's Rebirth game? 1104 01:10:53,880 --> 01:11:00,720 A yeah, yeah, sorry for audio for audio listeners. There's a picture 1105 01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:08,399 of Tifa in cleavage and that and then Mike went away, look at that 1106 01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:16,880 over the shoulder boulder holder. Christian became a stereotypical heyday, happy birthday, 1107 01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:23,920 but come on, yeah, ye and the two time Champie Faber said Final 1108 01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:27,079 Fantasy nine. Hey, that's your favorite, right, that's my favorite. 1109 01:11:27,119 --> 01:11:30,439 And he also said he thought that I would pick six. That's interesting. 1110 01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:32,920 But yeah, I'll tell you what I know. There's a rumor of a 1111 01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:35,960 nine remake. I don't think it's going to be on the scale of what 1112 01:11:36,039 --> 01:11:40,760 we're getting with seven. But boy, if they did that, you want 1113 01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:46,199 to see a grown man cry right look out chaos. Buckerus is firing them 1114 01:11:46,279 --> 01:11:50,319 three houses. Very good, but again, strategy, it's like a different 1115 01:11:50,359 --> 01:11:56,359 it's a subgenre. Tears of the boomer Pal twenty seventy seven says Grandia too. 1116 01:11:58,399 --> 01:12:00,880 I like Grondia too. It's just it's not like, man, that's 1117 01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:02,520 so funny that was published by I was just thinking the same thing. I 1118 01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:05,359 see that USOP log on there, I'm like, what the fuck that's so 1119 01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:10,840 messed up. It's a weird one too. It's it's not like it's not 1120 01:12:11,159 --> 01:12:14,479 a first round draft pick for me. It's a very good, like second 1121 01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:16,720 third round the air feature draft pick, but it's not like super tough. 1122 01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:19,840 You don't how to scroll up every time you go down. Will I forget 1123 01:12:20,159 --> 01:12:32,079 see that will Will David says, a mount rushmore of various Pokeman's uh yeah, 1124 01:12:32,279 --> 01:12:38,399 but understood. Isaac Clark says Dragon Quest five invented capturing monsters and using 1125 01:12:38,399 --> 01:12:43,359 them as party members well before Pokemon. This game is legendary. Five would 1126 01:12:43,399 --> 01:12:45,479 be like the other one I would consider because of that. It's also very 1127 01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:49,439 good. I also love that's my favorite hero design in the dragon Quest games. 1128 01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:54,359 I love the way the dragon Quest five protagonist looks. I'm sad that 1129 01:12:54,439 --> 01:13:00,439 he wasn't an option in Smash Brothers. Uh weeze man apparently channeling your brother. 1130 01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:04,159 Chris says Eternal Sonata. It's so the funniest thing in the world to 1131 01:13:04,199 --> 01:13:09,039 me that my younger brother, who does not like JRPGs or very like like 1132 01:13:09,359 --> 01:13:14,520 like anime schemes at all for some reason, fucking look because he's chopon pilled. 1133 01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:19,239 He's chopon pilled. He was like he had a weird old soul period 1134 01:13:19,359 --> 01:13:24,159 during college. He really got into Charlie Chaplin films in a hard way. 1135 01:13:24,279 --> 01:13:29,119 It was pretty funny. Domino Crossing says Nac Dude, we forgot about that 1136 01:13:29,279 --> 01:13:31,199 too. Ah shit, all right, well let's go get rid of Final 1137 01:13:31,239 --> 01:13:38,720 Fantasy seven. Yeah s WSP says Final Fantasy nine. Lily Woe Lee Wu 1138 01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:44,199 says Final Fantasy eight. Uh. Super Harmon says Dragon Quest nine eight. 1139 01:13:44,279 --> 01:13:48,279 That's eleven eleven is excuse me, you're right, I was still thinking of 1140 01:13:48,359 --> 01:13:53,319 Final Fantasy eight for second. No one's really brought this up yet, and 1141 01:13:53,399 --> 01:13:55,760 I know a lot of people like it, but it's like at that point, 1142 01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:57,840 it's kind of the thing where it's like, no, it's it also 1143 01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:00,479 lives in Final Fantasy seven's shadow, and though I know many people do prefer 1144 01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:03,439 eight for various reasons. No, there's a lot about it that's nice, 1145 01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:08,560 and I think it's been reconsidered in a much more positive light in recent years. 1146 01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:12,520 But I don't think anyone's going to argue it's a more important game than 1147 01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:15,880 Final Fantasy seven. Wong Gift says Final Fantasy seven, but not the remake. 1148 01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:20,239 I hate that they turned the awesome Wee pop Eye Cloud into Chad Michael 1149 01:14:20,319 --> 01:14:27,560 Murray input name here says Shimagami tense noc turn. Yeah. I mean, 1150 01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:30,840 uh, that Remeisser came out, I wasn't able to get super far and 1151 01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:34,479 so again, like the mainline SMT series isn't super for me, but still 1152 01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:38,600 like that's kind of it comes this Persona and I just think we're gonna do 1153 01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:41,640 a Mount Rushmore. A Persona game is going to get in there instead of 1154 01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:45,880 a mainline SMT game. You need hard feature art from the Devil Mike Rice 1155 01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:49,239 series. That's pretty true. It does feature him. Interesting. H T 1156 01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:56,600 money Og says the beginning of a phenomenon. Pokemon Red and Blue, Mitsugary 1157 01:14:56,880 --> 01:15:01,119 Mitsurugi says, Dragon ball Z Boo Fury for the Game Boy Advance, is 1158 01:15:01,159 --> 01:15:03,880 this one of the better ones for real? Because I always want to play 1159 01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:08,920 these RPGs. Yeah, the Down Bowl RPGs are pretty good, most of 1160 01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:13,960 them. I don't know. You play Trucks. Trunks is cool, Trunks 1161 01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:16,039 is great. I like think Trunks is very cool. Absolutely, he's cool. 1162 01:15:16,199 --> 01:15:19,079 Last the Ship out of Prisa, that's pretty cool. Yeah, that's 1163 01:15:19,079 --> 01:15:24,079 such that is I think I think about that's like the most og the most 1164 01:15:24,159 --> 01:15:30,079 incredible Chad move in media history was this character just showed up and killed the 1165 01:15:30,199 --> 01:15:33,479 villain and that villain's father in like two seconds. The villain from like the 1166 01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:42,520 last one hundred episode arc. Incredible shoot Hot American Summer has this looks like 1167 01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:45,199 Dragon Quest three. I'm gonna guess that is a game Boy color port of 1168 01:15:45,319 --> 01:15:48,279 it. Yeah, DrAk Look, I played Dragon Crest three for the first 1169 01:15:48,319 --> 01:15:51,680 time just a few years ago, and that is ANYS game, and it 1170 01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:56,319 is still very, very good. There's definitely a little like any s obtuseness 1171 01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:59,479 about it. Just play as a guide. It is still really impressive to 1172 01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:02,199 me. I like three a lot. Laser Wolf says, like a Dragon, 1173 01:16:02,239 --> 01:16:08,479 Infinite Wealth, great g RPG. He got Days, says Persona five 1174 01:16:09,079 --> 01:16:11,439 Paper, Mario, the Thousand Year Door, Pokemon Red and Blue, and 1175 01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:17,439 Final Fantasy seven, A fair Mount Rushmore you have there, and Panada Eater. 1176 01:16:18,039 --> 01:16:26,680 This is Persona three four four four Yeah, if you know, you 1177 01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:31,159 know Shooji coodos Final Fantasy nine. JD. Camp says, Mario golf for 1178 01:16:31,239 --> 01:16:35,199 the game Boy color. That's that's actually probably the best j RPG. You 1179 01:16:35,319 --> 01:16:40,439 are, right, Judy Camp Man Let Camelot cook again, Nintendo, Come 1180 01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:43,520 on. Klink says I guess I should have known because this has got some 1181 01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:45,800 yellow in it, and I think Persona four is the yellow one, right, 1182 01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:48,079 Yes, three is blue, fours yellow and five is right, and 1183 01:16:48,159 --> 01:16:51,760 for some reason, I spend way too much time wonder, really too much 1184 01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:56,439 time wondering what six is color is going to be? You are your team 1185 01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:59,720 purple right? No, Hi, a'ms the purple one. I think that 1186 01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:02,239 my be right green is a possibility, though we still have had a green 1187 01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:10,680 Clink says percent of four Golden zoube Mer says paper and Mario h sarahs Kane 1188 01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:15,760 says Residence of Fate is criminally underrated. That's one of yours. Uh, 1189 01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:17,600 I read, yeah, I want to the other like one that people usually 1190 01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:20,560 bring up us an underrated. I'm surprised I seeing it is Lost Odyssey. 1191 01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:24,680 I definitely want to play at some point, but also it might kind of 1192 01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:27,640 like maybe they'll remaster that soon or at some point. I don't know, 1193 01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:32,000 that would be a cool move. Uh. Redfish says dark Souls, which 1194 01:17:32,119 --> 01:17:38,720 you know, very important game, but I just it's not indicative of the 1195 01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:43,000 j RP genre genre to me, we named this genre after it. It's 1196 01:17:43,039 --> 01:17:46,800 so different, right exactly. Yes, it's a souls like brought this monster 1197 01:17:47,079 --> 01:17:50,199 says the Legend of Dragoon, which I know people like, but I think 1198 01:17:50,239 --> 01:17:54,920 aren't they wrong? No? I mean it's fine people. You're right though, 1199 01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:58,720 people. Some people still carry a very big torch for this game. 1200 01:17:59,119 --> 01:18:06,960 Yeah, Cryoris says Chrono Trigger. Buggadillos is Mother three Vision forty nine says 1201 01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:13,119 Mario Luigi Superstar Saga, which is just a phenomenal game. Really highly recommend, 1202 01:18:13,159 --> 01:18:16,039 but not going to make this list. Lenny Cool Dick Denver says Mario. 1203 01:18:16,199 --> 01:18:23,359 RPG Legend of the Seven Stars, Razzle Jazzle says Dragon Quest or Dragon 1204 01:18:23,399 --> 01:18:27,359 Warrior as it was known here at the time. Game Cube Chris as Monster 1205 01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:30,399 Hunter Stories, two Wings of Ruin. Do you ever play any of these 1206 01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:32,640 stories games? Now? I know people actually did like this one, and 1207 01:18:33,239 --> 01:18:35,119 like if I was gonna play what it'd be this? And I know they 1208 01:18:35,239 --> 01:18:40,359 just announced a remester the first one during the partner wrec but I don't know. 1209 01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:43,560 There's a lot of other things higher up on my priority list of backlog. 1210 01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:47,960 JRPGs. What is this fifth Christian's persona, say Mitsudu. Baby, 1211 01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:53,680 she's the like seventeen years old weeks Like, still need to talk about this, 1212 01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:56,159 Mike. We never had that discussion about your problem with them, Atsuru. 1213 01:18:57,560 --> 01:18:59,960 That's not a problem, but it is. She she has the both 1214 01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:05,000 like thirty eight year old like she's your boss, like like not like sexy, 1215 01:19:05,119 --> 01:19:09,119 like literally she is your boss at your place of work. Enter she 1216 01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:12,359 uh, and it's she's a big character. But I do, I do 1217 01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:15,800 laugh at her. But Jeff, get a hand out of I put a 1218 01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:18,720 different Tifa right below that with the fuck okay, okay, all right, 1219 01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:24,760 there we go Sean as a picture of Tifa saying he's probably thinking about other 1220 01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:29,279 women with a little picture of an earth there, and then Cloud's actually thinking, 1221 01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:33,880 why doesn't Tifa wear her cowboy hat anymore? What's what's better Tifa's cowboy 1222 01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:41,640 hat or knuckles ova hat? I mean it's the knuckles hat. I mean, 1223 01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:45,159 come on, we all know. Yeah, she just had to close. 1224 01:19:45,199 --> 01:19:47,560 Second though, I saw people. I saw all the people chappering up 1225 01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:50,760 Fantasy Star four, which I do like a lot, but it was always 1226 01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:55,159 kind of like, hey, look, Sega's got one of them j RPG's 1227 01:19:55,279 --> 01:19:57,520 also, and isn't that great. It's like, yeah, it is very 1228 01:19:57,560 --> 01:20:02,520 good. Yeah it sounds good as crams, but it's very good. Yeah. 1229 01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:05,880 That's always been that game's place, and even people that like like it, 1230 01:20:06,119 --> 01:20:09,920 like, well, I'm not gonna play that vanilla. It takes a 1231 01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:12,960 long time. I'm gonna like or to play it on an emulator so I 1232 01:20:13,039 --> 01:20:15,199 can fast forward through all that. What's one of the games where I was 1233 01:20:15,279 --> 01:20:18,680 very happy to have fast forward because it's also not translated very great, Like 1234 01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:21,479 it's one of those games that's for some reason when they translated it, they 1235 01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:26,039 did it on like a second grade reading level, and it's kind of weird, 1236 01:20:26,079 --> 01:20:28,800 but it's a fun game. I like Fantasy Star four a lot, 1237 01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:33,279 all right, So what we have right now is Corono Trigger Final Fantasy seventh, 1238 01:20:33,279 --> 01:20:38,000 Super Mario RPG, Dragon Quest three Persona three. I will delete Super 1239 01:20:38,079 --> 01:20:43,520 Mario RPG under protest, and I will name the dragon Quest game to be 1240 01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:47,520 Dragon Quest three, And then I believe that is our Mount Rushmore And it 1241 01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:49,640 looks right. Do you think that's it? I think that's it. I 1242 01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:53,079 think it is Grown Sugar f Office, Yeah, grow Tugger FOMF seven, 1243 01:20:53,119 --> 01:20:57,159 Drag Quest three Persona three, something about threes. Listen, if we were 1244 01:20:57,159 --> 01:20:59,600 going to knock something off of here, I don't know what we would knock 1245 01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:02,560 off, and but we would probably replace it with Pokemon. I honestly probably 1246 01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:09,439 would do that. But Dragon Quest is just Pokemon before Pokemon, So wh 1247 01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:12,079 wouldn't we keep it there? Good point, Sean, when you brought that 1248 01:21:12,239 --> 01:21:15,119 up, that's a very good thing you made that. We can make it 1249 01:21:15,239 --> 01:21:17,039 five if it makes people feel better, I guess, yeah, it's our 1250 01:21:17,119 --> 01:21:20,039 honorary number. Five doesn't make them out but there it is, no no, 1251 01:21:20,119 --> 01:21:21,800 I mean, we can make it Dragon Quest five, the one that 1252 01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:26,920 had the monster collecting stuff. Oh sure, sure, sure, thank you 1253 01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:30,239 all you want to do that, you want to say Dragon Quest instead, 1254 01:21:30,239 --> 01:21:34,199 there's a compromise. Sure, yeah, there you got everybody. See I'm 1255 01:21:34,199 --> 01:21:40,319 looking at how for you Pokemon people? Do me a favorite Roman numeral V 1256 01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:45,279 please sure give me a second me bring this back. Hey, look, 1257 01:21:45,319 --> 01:21:47,680 obviously there's a lot of very good Jerry, And there's some subjectiveness to this 1258 01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:50,239 for sure, Like I do feel bad not getting I think, so we 1259 01:21:50,319 --> 01:21:54,199 can to choose the one I feel the most bad about not getting a spot 1260 01:21:54,279 --> 01:21:57,159 on there. But hey, it's four games, it is. It is 1261 01:21:57,319 --> 01:22:01,159 tough out there to make it there. Yeah, the like these are definitely 1262 01:22:01,239 --> 01:22:08,039 all super essentials to me in a lot of ways. So there's some stuff 1263 01:22:08,039 --> 01:22:11,560 that even bring up, like the Lunar games, right, other things like 1264 01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:15,039 that, Radiant Historia, some other kind of hidden gems, lots and lots 1265 01:22:15,079 --> 01:22:19,239 of lots of big, big, big fun stuff. But boy, I 1266 01:22:19,359 --> 01:22:24,000 do man, I do like this, jenre Jeff. I still spend a 1267 01:22:24,039 --> 01:22:26,520 lot of time playing j RPGs, and it's always, you know, I 1268 01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:29,560 laugh at like cozy games. This is what like is a cozy game to 1269 01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:31,159 me is something like this. That's where I mean. I think a lot 1270 01:22:31,239 --> 01:22:35,319 of a lot of cozy games, especially the farming sim ones, are trying 1271 01:22:35,319 --> 01:22:40,479 to evoke the feeling of like being in a j RPG village or something like 1272 01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:43,359 that. I think a lot of times. So uh, there is definitely 1273 01:22:43,359 --> 01:22:47,359 a lot of coziness inherent to this genre. Our mount rushmore of g RPG 1274 01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:53,479 is one last time Here is Corono Trigger, Final Fantasy seven, Dragon Quest 1275 01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:58,640 five, and Persona three, And I think that list looks correct now. 1276 01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:00,359 Dragon Quest five also has a kind of where you get to pick your wife, 1277 01:23:00,359 --> 01:23:03,079 which is like, you know that, So isn't that so important in 1278 01:23:03,159 --> 01:23:06,880 jerrpgs? Now? It's very important. It's probably the most important, the 1279 01:23:08,039 --> 01:23:12,159 most of the why Yeah, it's the original WIFU picker. All right, 1280 01:23:12,279 --> 01:23:15,359 I'm gonna post that well, we took a quick break. When we get 1281 01:23:15,399 --> 01:23:19,199 back, we'll talk about what we've been playing right after this. All right, 1282 01:23:19,319 --> 01:23:24,439 we are back, there's say goodbye to our Mount Rushmore list. It 1283 01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:26,840 was great while it lasted, but you know, we don't have to talk 1284 01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:30,399 about anymore because now's it's carved into stone, it's there forever. Mike, 1285 01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:34,319 what have you been playing, I suppose other than Final Fantasy seven Rebirth if 1286 01:23:34,399 --> 01:23:36,720 anything. Yeah, Look, I've been playing a bit of Blotcho and it's 1287 01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:41,119 super fun, and still been having fun playing a bit more Persona three, 1288 01:23:41,199 --> 01:23:45,079 mostly at bedtime when I can, And I was kind of in JRPG Heaven 1289 01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:48,319 playing Rebirth and Persona three. But no, I mean, I guess the 1290 01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:50,880 kind of like one last thing on Rebirth. I know, I say, 1291 01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:54,479 it's just incredible to have a game like this again, But man, it 1292 01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:58,000 was such an important time when I was like early in college and I had 1293 01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:01,159 actually just like changed colleges. I actually like bounced around a couple of times 1294 01:24:01,199 --> 01:24:04,520 I was direction with I was back home. I was like, Okay, 1295 01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:09,640 maybe maybe I can be a video gain journalist. I don't know, And 1296 01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:13,520 I just started my first gaming podcast with my brother Agy actually exploiting barrel. 1297 01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:16,880 And it was like during then that I went in Godfou on Phasty twelve when 1298 01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:20,000 it was new because my friend my friend just wanted me to go with him 1299 01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:21,760 to the midnight launch. I was like, sure, I'll pick it up 1300 01:24:23,119 --> 01:24:25,319 and actually did fall in love with it, and then I was like, 1301 01:24:25,359 --> 01:24:28,319 I'm going to go play all the other ones and it was just that's just 1302 01:24:28,359 --> 01:24:33,159 an incredible thing, like doing this marathon esque playthrough of one through ten. 1303 01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:36,079 And then I had that problems of time, so I was just talking about 1304 01:24:36,119 --> 01:24:41,159 it every week. It was It was really important in terms of like kind 1305 01:24:41,199 --> 01:24:43,520 of where I am now in a lot of strange ways, I don't I 1306 01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:45,359 don't really like to be that kind of like this video game changed me kind 1307 01:24:45,399 --> 01:24:50,319 of person, but it was important and playing Rebirth was the most I felt 1308 01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:56,840 like I did in that original marathon again, because it really does way more 1309 01:24:57,439 --> 01:25:00,680 than A sixteen, a fifteen, or even a thirteen. It feels like, 1310 01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:02,560 yeah, wow, we are kind of back to this game feeling like 1311 01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:05,760 one of those again, and that's incredible. That yeah, that is that 1312 01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:10,399 is incredible and it's encouraging and it's nice to hear I'm glad that this game 1313 01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:14,640 has hit for you. That is, it's nice to anticipate something. We 1314 01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:18,720 talk about like, you know, setting of expectations and sometimes setting them high, 1315 01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:20,479 and it's like, well, what's the worst that can happen, You'll 1316 01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:24,399 be disappointed. Well, the best thing that can happen is setting your expectations 1317 01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:28,359 high and then having them overcome. That just feels like man, putting your 1318 01:25:28,359 --> 01:25:30,079 faith in something and having it be like you were right to do that, 1319 01:25:30,399 --> 01:25:33,279 and let's let's go on a fun journey together. Boy, that feels great. 1320 01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:39,000 So I'm glad. I'm glad you got to experience that. For me, 1321 01:25:39,079 --> 01:25:43,079 it's been like over the weekend, I was playing some Bilatro more than 1322 01:25:43,119 --> 01:25:46,319 I intended to, and then I did get back onto like a Dragon, 1323 01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:49,000 and I am I think I'm kind of beginning to wrap it up now. 1324 01:25:49,199 --> 01:25:55,000 I am what I am assuming is the final grind session I'm gonna be doing. 1325 01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:59,560 And I did look and see in my inventory that I because I have 1326 01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:02,960 the Special Edition, I did have like twenty like level up things could have 1327 01:26:03,079 --> 01:26:08,239 used instead of grinding. Yes, and I pop those And then yet I'm 1328 01:26:08,279 --> 01:26:12,760 still grinding because I'm enjoying it. I like going through these dungeons and getting 1329 01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:15,279 to the end and seeing how much money I'm gonna get, and also having 1330 01:26:15,359 --> 01:26:17,039 that money so i can go buy some better gear that I've been eyeing for 1331 01:26:17,119 --> 01:26:19,239 the whole game. Well, now I'm gonna be able to afford It's all 1332 01:26:19,279 --> 01:26:24,079 that's like fun. And I'll go in, you know, to some parts 1333 01:26:24,079 --> 01:26:26,640 of the map that have had the enemies that have been too high level for 1334 01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:28,960 me to mess with. I'll go mess with them a couple of times, 1335 01:26:29,239 --> 01:26:32,079 and then I'll go through this last part of the game. It's probably a 1336 01:26:32,119 --> 01:26:35,840 little bit more than what I'm expecting because i think I'm on like chapter twelve 1337 01:26:36,039 --> 01:26:41,800 and I think there's sixteen chapters. I think that's right. But I'm still 1338 01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:45,159 like, I'm ready to see it through. Just still really like it. 1339 01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:47,520 And I know I like it because I am doing the grinding and I'm not 1340 01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:50,640 like, oh, this is obnoxious and this is annoying. And even when 1341 01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:53,680 it like I am like a little bit distracted, I'm like, oh, 1342 01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:56,600 I need to do something else. I said to auto battle every once in 1343 01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:59,239 a while and let it just play itself. And that's totally cool too. 1344 01:26:59,279 --> 01:27:03,560 I'm glad that's encouraging here apparently fourteen chapters, so you're close than anything. 1345 01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:08,439 Fantastic okay, alsopteen chapters than I really am at the end weird fourteen chapters 1346 01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:11,560 in the Rebirth also, so I already thought these games were maybe similar. 1347 01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:15,560 So that's funny. Do you think you are going to like dive into Rebirth 1348 01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:18,960 or does it seem a little exhausting effort because you don't normally play a really 1349 01:27:19,119 --> 01:27:24,359 big charpg like this is the idea of going from one of those right into 1350 01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:27,439 another one of those kind of a lot for you. It feels like a 1351 01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:31,119 lot for me. Yes, there's also Hey, I'm eyeing that Expedition's mud 1352 01:27:31,199 --> 01:27:34,439 Runner game, Like I have my eyeset on that, and it's like I 1353 01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:38,600 would like to kind of just throw myself into one of those again, so 1354 01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:41,920 I might see about like mixing some other stuff in before I go right to 1355 01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:45,279 Rebirth. But I mean, people have been talking it up, so you 1356 01:27:45,279 --> 01:27:46,119 know, I'm at least gonna start it. I'm gonna start it and we'll 1357 01:27:46,119 --> 01:27:51,319 see what happens. Cool beyond that, though, like I said, a 1358 01:27:51,399 --> 01:27:56,239 lotro the kids have been playing a bunch of stuff. I got Emmy the 1359 01:27:56,319 --> 01:27:59,760 two Hotel Transylvania games that they made. Because she's beent, like she is 1360 01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:02,079 all on Hotel Transylvania right now, we had to get her a Mavis costume. 1361 01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:06,279 She looked very cute, yes, and she like, you know, 1362 01:28:06,399 --> 01:28:09,920 she's not super into games anymore, but she saw this and she's like, 1363 01:28:10,119 --> 01:28:12,760 well, I'm gonna figure this out. And the reason she's not in the 1364 01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:15,720 games she gets frustrated pretty easily, so I have to kind of I'm there 1365 01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:17,760 for her, helping her out and stuff. But that was fun. And 1366 01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:20,880 then Emmy her at excuse me, was like, I want to play inc. 1367 01:28:21,359 --> 01:28:23,880 I'm like, oh, okay, you want to play Zelda? All 1368 01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:26,920 right, you want to plays link. I think she heard I had music 1369 01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:29,640 playing. I think Zelda music was playing, and she's like, oh, 1370 01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:32,600 yeah, Zelda, I've been meaning to play that. So I turned on 1371 01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:35,920 Tears of the Kingdom and she's been playing that for the last two days and 1372 01:28:36,039 --> 01:28:40,359 she's I think she's like slowly figuring things out. And I did like show 1373 01:28:40,399 --> 01:28:44,840 her how to begin piecing things together and how to use a send and she's 1374 01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:46,600 like mostly like, well I know that stuff can happen, can you come 1375 01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:48,960 do it for me right now? It's kind of actually where we're at. 1376 01:28:49,279 --> 01:28:53,279 But she's exploring the world and running around and she like, I killed a 1377 01:28:53,319 --> 01:28:56,279 wolf and it turned into meat. I'm like, yeah, it's pretty cool, 1378 01:28:56,359 --> 01:28:58,760 right, and she loves it, and every time she sees a wolf 1379 01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:00,399 now she's like, oh, kill it so we can get more meat. 1380 01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:02,199 And then I tried out to start like cooking food, and she's like, 1381 01:29:02,279 --> 01:29:03,920 well, this is great. Look what I made. Look what I made. 1382 01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:06,319 Look what I made. And she made dubious food, and that like 1383 01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:10,239 just tickled her so much. She's like, this is really funny. So 1384 01:29:10,520 --> 01:29:14,039 yeah, it's it's very interesting to see a kid get on board with a 1385 01:29:14,079 --> 01:29:16,159 game like that, where like you can kind of things work the way you 1386 01:29:16,199 --> 01:29:19,439 expect, which is I think always went been the magic of Breath of the 1387 01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:24,159 Wild and Tears of the Kingdom. When she chopped down a tree and it 1388 01:29:24,279 --> 01:29:26,960 just turned into this big log, She's like, oh my god, I 1389 01:29:27,039 --> 01:29:29,600 chopped out a tree. How does how did that work? That never works 1390 01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:30,920 in a game. I'm like, yeah, that's what this game is. 1391 01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:34,840 So it's been fun to kind of like experience that game again through her eyes. 1392 01:29:35,079 --> 01:29:38,640 I really like Tears of the Kingdom. It turns out it's some reason. 1393 01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:41,279 Randomly, I came across the clip of you, I mean you were 1394 01:29:41,279 --> 01:29:45,439 playing Pokemon Legends, and Addie was watching you, and you like you like 1395 01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:47,680 knocked out some kind of Pokemon that sort of looks like a lobster. So 1396 01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:51,520 she got upset and started hitting herself and crying. Oh God, yes, 1397 01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:56,359 but yes, that's she does that. If she gets very upset, she'll 1398 01:29:56,760 --> 01:30:00,720 still hit herself. It turns out, apparently I asked, that's a normal 1399 01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:05,119 behavior for a little girl, like really fun because it gets you or something. 1400 01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:11,119 Yeah, yeah, I'm definitely yep. Probably all right, that is 1401 01:30:11,199 --> 01:30:15,920 it for me, though I am looking forward to seeing like a dragon through 1402 01:30:16,079 --> 01:30:19,119 I you know, if someone were to like tell me the things that I'm 1403 01:30:19,119 --> 01:30:21,520 experienced right now were like pacing issues for them, and I think people have 1404 01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:24,840 said that, I would be like, yeah, I believe you. But 1405 01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:27,479 I think this is why I'm like, I think I'm with you on what 1406 01:30:27,479 --> 01:30:30,199 you're saying about Final Fantasy vin Rebirth is. I bet once I'm in that 1407 01:30:30,319 --> 01:30:33,560 stuff too, I'll be very glad that, especially if it's like fun stuff. 1408 01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:35,720 I'm like, I don't care about the pacing issues with that stuff. 1409 01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:40,319 Because if I'm having a good time, I'll be fine. So yeah, 1410 01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:43,359 cool. It's cool to have so many good video games right now, and 1411 01:30:43,399 --> 01:30:45,319 there's a whole bunch more all happening at the same time in the first two 1412 01:30:45,399 --> 01:30:49,119 months, like Prince of Persia Lost Crown feels like a lifetime ago. Yes, 1413 01:30:49,199 --> 01:30:53,279 it does, absolutely. I did just uh, let's send that game 1414 01:30:53,319 --> 01:30:58,039 to someone who sent me the VCR so Creaky Legs actually, so I was 1415 01:30:58,159 --> 01:31:00,840 like, yeah, here here's the cop the game. I said I would 1416 01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:02,479 get you for sending me a vc R. So I was thinking about a 1417 01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:04,239 little bit souse. I'm like, yeah, that game is so good. 1418 01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:08,479 You give stuff to people an ici. I feel like I owe Joisy something 1419 01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:11,760 out there that Mortal Combat needs. I was like, I'll pay for it, 1420 01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:13,880 and they were like, well no, I mean just like, maybe 1421 01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:15,000 just give me a game on so I'll say on Steam. And then they 1422 01:31:15,039 --> 01:31:17,199 said they wanted to play this game, like, I'll just I'll get that 1423 01:31:17,279 --> 01:31:21,079 for you right now. So it worked out. All right, Mikey, 1424 01:31:21,159 --> 01:31:24,600 let's get out of here. I'm gonna hit the button that's the wrong button. 1425 01:31:25,319 --> 01:31:27,399 Yeah, we might have more super Chats. How many more do we 1426 01:31:27,479 --> 01:31:30,680 have? Yes? Let's hit these Our truth says Chris and Turtle Sean, 1427 01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:33,600 what's up? My nomination for two thousand and six Game of the Year is 1428 01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:40,800 Terminator to Judgment Day. Thank you, our Truth. I think this is 1429 01:31:41,039 --> 01:31:45,600 someone in the character of Our Truth right here and confused about the subject of 1430 01:31:45,680 --> 01:31:51,760 the week. Our Truth. You're welcome here anytime. Achievement says I was 1431 01:31:51,880 --> 01:31:58,159 sad when PERSONA three didn't let me f the old couple. Wow. Wow, 1432 01:31:59,199 --> 01:32:01,479 Wow, he's it, but it's a balid, it's a valley complaint. 1433 01:32:02,920 --> 01:32:08,199 Mikey O'Leary says that Sora amiebo I mentioned the other day is all yours 1434 01:32:08,359 --> 01:32:13,520 Mike's packs. That'd be incredible. Yeah, actually I think I did you 1435 01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:16,680 realizing those plans actually right after this. Oh fantastic. Yeah, you kid. 1436 01:32:17,239 --> 01:32:18,880 If you want to ship it to me too, we can do that 1437 01:32:19,279 --> 01:32:23,279 because then I have to get that thing home anyway. So we'll talk. 1438 01:32:23,359 --> 01:32:25,920 We'll talk, but thank you. Yeah, and he won't get you something 1439 01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:31,720 nice in return. Can we discovered tonight? Uh? Thanks for hanging out 1440 01:32:31,720 --> 01:32:34,640 tonight, Mikey O'Leary, always so good to see you. All right, 1441 01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:36,960 let's see here. I think that is going to do it. Let's hit 1442 01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:42,640 the button for real this time. Uh, Like, now you're gonna play 1443 01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:45,600 more Final Fantasy seven Rebirth? What's up next time? Yeah? Because like 1444 01:32:45,800 --> 01:32:48,840 because like when I was playing it for a while doing everything and then I 1445 01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:51,800 kind of you know, mainline the quest for a while, there's a lot 1446 01:32:51,840 --> 01:32:55,720 of stuff I still really want to see through. I don't know if I'm 1447 01:32:55,720 --> 01:32:57,960 going to like one hundred percent, but there's a lot of stuff I definitely 1448 01:32:58,000 --> 01:33:00,880 want to wrap up. So not right away. He's a little break. 1449 01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:05,079 I played like thirty hours of it the last couple of days, but yeah, 1450 01:33:05,119 --> 01:33:09,479 I'm definitely gonna jump back in there pretty pretty soon. Yeah. I 1451 01:33:09,560 --> 01:33:13,199 think I'm going to make a deliberate effort to once I get through it like 1452 01:33:13,239 --> 01:33:15,279 a dragon, to spend a couple of days just playing nothing but hell Divers. 1453 01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:18,560 And that's what I want. Yeah, I want to play democracy together. 1454 01:33:19,159 --> 01:33:24,560 Let's go spread some democracy. I did what I did rewatch Starship Krueper's 1455 01:33:24,560 --> 01:33:27,560 because of all the conversation. Yeah, and I forget. It's like he's 1456 01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:30,319 just that Michael Ironside's just there teaching class. He's like this is why democracy 1457 01:33:30,439 --> 01:33:33,479 failed. And I'm like, oh shit, I like I forget about that, 1458 01:33:33,720 --> 01:33:38,000 Like, oh, they live in a not non democratic society and all 1459 01:33:38,039 --> 01:33:41,520 that stuff. It's a god, it's a good movie. Yeah. I 1460 01:33:41,720 --> 01:33:45,720 am going to play some hell Divers mor Bilatro for sure. Looking forward to 1461 01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:48,199 geting to Expeditions when that comes out. A whole bunch of other stuff all 1462 01:33:48,279 --> 01:33:53,279 happen, and a ton of good games so far this year. Cool? 1463 01:33:53,319 --> 01:33:57,239 Cool, Like you got any plans for the weekend other than that there's a 1464 01:33:57,319 --> 01:34:00,239 kid's birthday party. I have to go too. I don't know if I'm 1465 01:34:00,239 --> 01:34:03,920 watching Lemination Chap or probably guys. I definitely want to. Well, I 1466 01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:05,920 just want to. I don't know if anybody wants to watch it with me, 1467 01:34:06,119 --> 01:34:09,520 so I have to figure that out. I want to sleep. I 1468 01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:12,520 want to sleep. I don't sleep till seven pm, but I want to 1469 01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:15,000 sleep. Yeah, I'm gonna be cleaning up the house. Might pop on 1470 01:34:15,239 --> 01:34:19,319 on that two hundredth episode of Xbox Era, hang out with them for a 1471 01:34:19,399 --> 01:34:23,319 few mill Yeah, I pop into like got invited that. I know when 1472 01:34:23,359 --> 01:34:25,439 you pop in there maybe again, Yeah, we'll I'll look in there. 1473 01:34:25,760 --> 01:34:28,720 Yeah that sounds good. But you want to clean up the house a little 1474 01:34:28,720 --> 01:34:30,199 bit and kind of getting out of hands because we've been so busy. And 1475 01:34:30,279 --> 01:34:34,039 then and then yeah, sleep, that sounds real good. Maybe recovery even 1476 01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:40,119 Uh, but we will have stuff on on Giant Bomb tomorrow. Upf I'm 1477 01:34:40,119 --> 01:34:43,800 probably gonna be playing Super Mario Maker. That seems to be the plan now, 1478 01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:45,960 so look out for that. It should be a good time playing some 1479 01:34:45,039 --> 01:34:48,079 old Dan levels. All right, everybody, thanks for listening, have a 1480 01:34:48,119 --> 01:35:17,239 good one. To take care of yourself, and goodbye your force. Someone 1481 01:35:17,279 --> 01:35:21,600 says no smt ain't it, and I'm gonna reply to them with no comma 1482 01:35:23,079 --> 01:35:34,520 s MT ain't it. I'm a dick. You are bye bye, all 1483 01:35:34,600 --> 01:35:40,279 right, we're out. I'm gonna lower my heat. Do you get you 1484 01:35:40,359 --> 01:35:43,359 get? You get the runs? I think it's the fucking crime that they 1485 01:35:43,439 --> 01:35:48,039 gave fucking fifteen one thousand minutes to that ugly ass fucking video game of Grounded, 1486 01:35:48,439 --> 01:35:53,119 and they gave him five seconds to pantamen one of like ground It was 1487 01:35:53,199 --> 01:35:56,359 made by a small team. All right, you know you want to attack 1488 01:35:56,439 --> 01:36:00,880 it? Okay, furious the universe is out of balance now and are going 1489 01:36:00,920 --> 01:36:02,840 to play Grounded, And you guys are going to be so jealous when you're 1490 01:36:02,840 --> 01:36:12,960 not invited. I like I'm going to say anything about that. Thank you, 1491 01:36:13,039 --> 01:36:16,560 Mike, you're doing it. That's big of you. Oh my god, 1492 01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:19,960 I forgot it's your thing. That really feels like a game that has 1493 01:36:20,439 --> 01:36:28,880 that's twenty millions, the twenty million super engaged players. Sure, I love 1494 01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:32,680 it, he said. Look, I just always laugh at like that player's 1495 01:36:32,960 --> 01:36:38,279 number. I mean we know that that player's number is people who turn it 1496 01:36:38,359 --> 01:36:42,760 on once? Right, Yes, I know you know now that doesn't mean 1497 01:36:43,520 --> 01:36:48,760 well a certain person matters. I understand it's still but my iye rolling, 1498 01:36:48,920 --> 01:36:54,079 still is it? That's a little bit Mike. We hear guys doing their 1499 01:36:54,119 --> 01:36:59,760 thing, doing mathematics on his friend. Okay, let's go. Yeah, 1500 01:36:59,840 --> 01:37:02,479 we get back, we're gonna do super chats and then I can get set 1501 01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:04,840 up fromunt Rushmore and we'll just go right into that. Is that right, 1502 01:37:04,920 --> 01:37:09,680 that's what we're doing rushmore of j RPGs. Correct. Okay, yes, 1503 01:37:09,760 --> 01:37:12,760 that's right. Let's guess we can. We can bang that out and then 1504 01:37:13,039 --> 01:37:15,039 talk about what we've been playing other than Final Fantasy because I am starting to 1505 01:37:15,079 --> 01:37:24,640 feel sick again, so let's let's go right, I'll be all right, 1506 01:37:25,159 --> 01:37:27,960 are you guys alive in here. How's it going? No? Fuck, 1507 01:37:28,079 --> 01:37:30,319 no, I might I might have died earlier today, and this could all 1508 01:37:30,399 --> 01:37:33,119 just be like a flash before the end. Bro, I think I'm getting 1509 01:37:33,279 --> 01:37:40,359 sick. I feel like it's probably Zeka. I told you, Yeah, 1510 01:37:40,720 --> 01:37:43,239 I told you, I'm going to give it to your mother. No, 1511 01:37:43,479 --> 01:37:49,479 don't give Zeke to my mother. Okay, let's see ill. You have 1512 01:37:49,680 --> 01:37:54,920 no idea. The value of that is like a hundred thatsh It is a 1513 01:37:55,039 --> 01:38:02,239 fucking goal, bro, I love it. You know how to cheer me 1514 01:38:02,359 --> 01:38:10,880 up. I always just figured, like YouTube would like calculate that based on 1515 01:38:11,159 --> 01:38:13,760 current exchange rates. It's like, no, clearly it does not. You 1516 01:38:13,880 --> 01:38:19,359 can't. How do you calculate this fucking money that's just like constantly fluctating. 1517 01:38:19,560 --> 01:38:26,199 Is like crazy, to be fair, I type that into Google another Google 1518 01:38:26,359 --> 01:38:32,159 process. It's probably not like accurate either. Yeah, but but it definitely 1519 01:38:32,159 --> 01:38:38,560 should know that a hundred Argentina and Argentine paties. It ain't. It has 1520 01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:44,239 never been close to anything like maybe in the nies maybe then no, no, 1521 01:38:45,119 --> 01:38:56,720 yeah, thirty years ago for sure. Oh no, it's way worse 1522 01:38:56,760 --> 01:39:01,880 than Yeah, it's a it's a monetary crisis, yes, it's really bad. 1523 01:39:04,560 --> 01:39:11,560 She's hitting the she's hitting the fun around here. Uh. I say, 1524 01:39:11,640 --> 01:39:15,479 oh, I had to do something, and I stepped out. And 1525 01:39:15,560 --> 01:39:18,079 maybe that's when you talk about the super chest thing. Probably I was gonna 1526 01:39:18,079 --> 01:39:20,399 say. I got here like thirty minutes later, and I know that they 1527 01:39:20,439 --> 01:39:25,159 were talking. I was very confused because it was like, just like, 1528 01:39:25,239 --> 01:39:27,119 all right, Mike, you want me to reach super chats Like, yeah, 1529 01:39:27,119 --> 01:39:30,039 I want you to do for both they beat Christian chats like White Jeffrey. 1530 01:39:31,239 --> 01:39:34,159 I wasn't angry. I was just asking what was going on. I 1531 01:39:34,319 --> 01:39:39,720 just bro just. I wasn't yelling at nobody. I know you would like 1532 01:39:39,800 --> 01:39:45,119 to feel like a victim this in in Ah. An American would feel that 1533 01:39:45,159 --> 01:39:50,479 way. Why are you attacking us? All right? I think I am 1534 01:39:50,520 --> 01:39:54,279 good to bring us back in. Let me just get this up on the 1535 01:39:54,520 --> 01:40:00,279 screen. I also watching cap Cup copy. Oh thanks, I'll talk to 1536 01:40:00,319 --> 01:40:03,520 you Gus about that later. That. It's the name of the Perfect the 1537 01:40:04,159 --> 01:40:09,760 fighting game we s called two x k O. I think they didn't like 1538 01:40:09,880 --> 01:40:12,279 it. It's a good name, but I kind of like weird. It's 1539 01:40:12,319 --> 01:40:15,920 weird. I think they didn't want. They didn't want because every other game 1540 01:40:15,079 --> 01:40:20,199 is like Legald Listen Lessien's on Rutter riffs fucking apart. I don't know the 1541 01:40:20,279 --> 01:40:25,520 other name of the other game, but the hell yeah no don't Yeah, 1542 01:40:25,560 --> 01:40:30,000 it's legal Leschen. But we're kind of we're gonna like detached a little bit 1543 01:40:30,079 --> 01:40:33,199 of a maybe the name. I think it's okay, where the hell did 1544 01:40:33,239 --> 01:40:39,680 my face go? All right, let's do this. I think we can 1545 01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:46,279 bring it back. That was fun. Yeah, it was great. Good. 1546 01:40:48,239 --> 01:40:53,560 I amologize to the map and the Pokemon fans. Yeah, no, 1547 01:40:54,119 --> 01:41:00,399 we get it. You hate us. Never apologies. Okay, all right, 1548 01:41:00,479 --> 01:41:02,119 that's posted. Let's bring it back in and we'll get through this pretty 1549 01:41:02,159 --> 01:41:04,720 quick because a final Fantasy seven rebirth. I'm sure it's been taking up most 1550 01:41:04,760 --> 01:41:06,359 of your time. Yes, absolutely,