WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.319 --> 00:00:06.919 Hello, and welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast for the week of July. 2 00:00:07.240 --> 00:00:11.839 First, I'm Terry Morrow, and I'm here with Catherine Hiletcho. Hello for 3 00:00:12.000 --> 00:00:16.280 a weekly episode to talk about parenting in a roundabout way along with a little 4 00:00:16.320 --> 00:00:21.600 pop culture. So this past week, how's your week going, Catherine, 5 00:00:22.559 --> 00:00:30.239 It's going fine. I did have an incident yesterday where my internet, my 6 00:00:30.359 --> 00:00:36.560 WiFi died and I did the whole like unplugged, plug in, blah blah 7 00:00:36.600 --> 00:00:41.479 blah. I checked online if there was an outage. Uh huh, you 8 00:00:41.520 --> 00:00:46.039 know no. And so after I had done those two things, I called 9 00:00:46.439 --> 00:00:50.399 the company always had an experience. Well, you know, I have to 10 00:00:50.439 --> 00:00:54.520 say the person was very nice. The customer service rep was very nice and 11 00:00:55.240 --> 00:00:59.079 directed me to do the same you know, power cycling thing that I had 12 00:00:59.119 --> 00:01:02.560 done. Yes, and I'll do it for you. So I did it. 13 00:01:03.079 --> 00:01:06.359 Nothing happened. I'm like, there's no lights on this this box, 14 00:01:06.560 --> 00:01:11.359 like it's completely dark, and the rep is like, yeah, let's I'll 15 00:01:11.359 --> 00:01:17.719 get a technician out. I'm like okay, And but he said he gave 16 00:01:17.760 --> 00:01:19.000 me an appointment like in an hour. I was like, oh, oh 17 00:01:19.079 --> 00:01:26.079 wow, I can that's that's great. H so that the technician comes. 18 00:01:26.319 --> 00:01:30.840 And they had said, you know, they might need to check outside and 19 00:01:30.959 --> 00:01:34.760 inside, and so I said, do you want to start inside or outside? 20 00:01:34.959 --> 00:01:38.920 And he said I'll start inside. And I had, you know, 21 00:01:38.959 --> 00:01:42.519 like I put the dogs in the crate because they were barking their heads off. 22 00:01:42.599 --> 00:01:49.959 And you know, the the room where the boxes is about as far 23 00:01:49.000 --> 00:01:55.200 from the front door as possible. So I dragged this man all the way 24 00:01:55.239 --> 00:02:01.000 through the house, up the stairs back to the office. Uh approaches the 25 00:02:01.040 --> 00:02:07.199 box, pushes the on off switch. Oh no, I was like, 26 00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:16.080 you are kidding me, Like the very pleasant person on the phone said, 27 00:02:17.240 --> 00:02:21.960 they did not want to insult you by saying is it on? Is it 28 00:02:22.039 --> 00:02:29.439 on? Nope? Not on. Luckily, this technician was super nice. 29 00:02:29.479 --> 00:02:31.680 He was like, oh wow, that bait. That's the easiest thing I'll 30 00:02:31.680 --> 00:02:36.960 do today. And you know, now you're not the first person. I 31 00:02:37.039 --> 00:02:45.199 was like, oh my god, I am such a dupeist. So anyway, 32 00:02:45.439 --> 00:02:47.919 that was my yesterday. This is why it people are the way they 33 00:02:47.960 --> 00:02:51.199 are. We get so happy. Well, they asked me to plug it 34 00:02:51.199 --> 00:02:53.400 and a plug it again. I already did that, and like I went 35 00:02:53.439 --> 00:02:57.280 to a house the other day and the person hadn't even turned it on. 36 00:02:57.639 --> 00:03:02.280 Yep. So yeah, well you haven't. We've all been there, baby, 37 00:03:06.080 --> 00:03:13.360 Oh the worst feeling, oh I have. My Internet has been working 38 00:03:13.439 --> 00:03:19.080 just fine, and I have been squandering it on constant surveillance of the Taylor 39 00:03:19.120 --> 00:03:23.719 Swift situation. So you know, I've been a fan of Taylor since she 40 00:03:23.840 --> 00:03:25.719 started. I've been a fan for her for a very long time. I 41 00:03:25.719 --> 00:03:35.120 have only hooked into the madness of Taylor Swift Twitter recently, sort of curious 42 00:03:35.280 --> 00:03:38.560 because she had a whole song telling people to shut up about her love life, 43 00:03:38.120 --> 00:03:42.080 and so I'm like, what, what's this now? Also, i 44 00:03:42.120 --> 00:03:46.960 mean, girlfriend, all your songs are your life. That's true. But 45 00:03:47.560 --> 00:03:52.960 apparently there was a whole I don't know who's a petition, but there was 46 00:03:53.039 --> 00:03:58.120 some big, big thing demanding that she break up with some guy that people 47 00:03:58.159 --> 00:04:04.120 didn't like. And I think there's there's a point at which it goes beyond 48 00:04:04.680 --> 00:04:11.639 obsession and fascination too, and here's what you should do that. I think 49 00:04:11.879 --> 00:04:17.160 she felt people had crossed and and with great speed and determination. So anyway, 50 00:04:17.240 --> 00:04:20.199 so I've been been spending a great, great deal of time. There's 51 00:04:20.199 --> 00:04:26.759 a group called the Senior swiftiest sideline that I have joined more people who were 52 00:04:26.800 --> 00:04:33.199 born in the previous century, so that we maybe don't get that sort of 53 00:04:33.240 --> 00:04:39.000 thing quite so much. And it's just it's it's kind of fun, and 54 00:04:39.040 --> 00:04:44.160 it's also kind of disturbing because it's it's super fun. Since she's been dating 55 00:04:44.199 --> 00:04:46.680 Travis, it's been super fun to follow that to see here at the football 56 00:04:46.720 --> 00:04:49.680 games. Oh, they kissed on the field, and there's a video of 57 00:04:49.680 --> 00:04:53.800 them in a dance later, aren't they adorable? And it's like, I 58 00:04:53.959 --> 00:04:58.240 disapprove of this, but show me another video. Ask you here they are 59 00:04:58.279 --> 00:05:03.680 a coach show. Disapprove of the attention being paid. Not I dis relationship 60 00:05:03.720 --> 00:05:10.000 itself. I love the relationship, and I really have a hard time resisting 61 00:05:10.480 --> 00:05:15.199 fan observing of the relationship. And I do want to see the pictures and 62 00:05:15.240 --> 00:05:16.800 I do want to watch the videos, and it is a gross invasion of 63 00:05:16.839 --> 00:05:21.160 their privacy. But I mean, Travis goes to one of her concerts and 64 00:05:21.199 --> 00:05:25.360 there's like cameras trained on him in the visitor's box, so, oh, 65 00:05:25.399 --> 00:05:28.040 look he smiled at that. Oh he's singing, he's dancing. Isn't that 66 00:05:28.079 --> 00:05:30.439 adorable? It's like, can you just just like the way they work. 67 00:05:30.480 --> 00:05:32.920 The cameras were on her every time she went to a game exactly, and 68 00:05:33.480 --> 00:05:39.120 you just said, these beautiful young people live their life after you show me 69 00:05:39.160 --> 00:05:43.759 another ten pictures. So I yeah, you know, I'm an adult. 70 00:05:43.839 --> 00:05:46.399 This is beneath me, but so cute. Look how cute it is. 71 00:05:47.279 --> 00:05:51.519 So this past weekend, as we're recording, were the first few nights of 72 00:05:51.560 --> 00:05:57.399 her concert in London, and Travis was there, and his brother and sister 73 00:05:57.439 --> 00:06:00.959 in law were there, and certain celebrities were there, and it was just 74 00:06:01.079 --> 00:06:05.879 a whole thing. And then he actually was on stage for one this little 75 00:06:05.879 --> 00:06:11.040 baudeville dat thing of changing her costume from one number to another. He was 76 00:06:11.079 --> 00:06:14.639 there and participate in that, and then it was on She put it on 77 00:06:14.680 --> 00:06:17.160 Instagram. It was just like a whole wave of oh my gosh, oh 78 00:06:17.199 --> 00:06:18.879 my gosh, oh my gosh, oh my gosh, oh my gosh on 79 00:06:18.920 --> 00:06:26.319 Twitter. And that was fun but also amusing to me as we transition into 80 00:06:26.399 --> 00:06:30.279 our the thing we're watching for this week was that Andrew Scott, who we 81 00:06:30.319 --> 00:06:38.079 have recently seen as a psychopath in Ripley, was there in one of the 82 00:06:38.120 --> 00:06:43.600 concerts in Living Color in a tank top jumping around and shake it off, 83 00:06:43.639 --> 00:06:46.480 and I'm like, are there any heavy astrays in the VIP tag right themselves? 84 00:06:46.759 --> 00:06:54.199 Careful, Taylor, I know you fortunately, I know she knows him. 85 00:06:54.240 --> 00:06:58.199 But if he comes comes backstage afterwards claiming to be Travis, run run 86 00:06:58.319 --> 00:07:05.839 right, Oh Travis, I just saw him. He just left. Oh 87 00:07:05.959 --> 00:07:10.639 dear. So he was having himself a fine time, and God bless why 88 00:07:10.680 --> 00:07:16.160 not? But we watched for this week the alternative Ripley. The original were 89 00:07:16.160 --> 00:07:20.399 not not even the original Ripley. I now find out because there was a 90 00:07:20.399 --> 00:07:23.879 book. Well it was based on a book, and there was also a 91 00:07:23.959 --> 00:07:28.040 French movie of the book. Well are we going to watch that? I 92 00:07:28.120 --> 00:07:31.680 think we are not. I think I have sufficient Ripley. Okay, I 93 00:07:31.759 --> 00:07:35.079 might want to read the book though, because there's there's These two things were 94 00:07:35.079 --> 00:07:40.720 so so much the same and yet so different that I'm kind of curious what 95 00:07:40.879 --> 00:07:44.800 the source material had to say about it. Yeah, so we watched the 96 00:07:45.079 --> 00:07:53.120 nineteen ninety nine Talented Mister Ripley movie with Matt Damon as Ripley and Jude Law 97 00:07:53.199 --> 00:07:59.439 as Dicky, Gwyneth Paltrow as Marge, and Philip Seymour Hoffman as Freddy, 98 00:07:59.519 --> 00:08:03.199 and then there's a few more characters that. Yes, see, it was 99 00:08:03.279 --> 00:08:09.680 a whole cake Blenchette storyline which was not in the series. Even though the 100 00:08:09.720 --> 00:08:13.199 series had to add a ton of stuff to go what was it eight hours, 101 00:08:13.839 --> 00:08:16.720 right instead of two? They added a ton of stuff, but they 102 00:08:16.759 --> 00:08:20.639 cut out poor was it Meredith? Meredith was her name? Yes, or 103 00:08:20.759 --> 00:08:26.600 Meredith to the series, and this Peter and also Peter, yes, who 104 00:08:26.639 --> 00:08:33.000 proved to be rather irrelevant. He was also but only very briefly born Drey. 105 00:08:33.120 --> 00:08:39.200 Yeah, yes, that's true. And they changed they changed, you 106 00:08:39.240 --> 00:08:46.120 know, some little some small details, and some big things. It changed 107 00:08:46.120 --> 00:08:50.000 the name of the town where Dicky and Marge were. For whatever reason, 108 00:08:50.080 --> 00:08:54.600 they added this whole see do we know which one changed it? Oh? 109 00:08:54.679 --> 00:08:58.519 Yeah, which one it is? This one was first, and I don't 110 00:08:58.559 --> 00:09:03.559 know if the miniseries changed it or if that was true to the book and 111 00:09:03.559 --> 00:09:07.960 this was I don't yeah whatever. She's also in color, which was very 112 00:09:09.200 --> 00:09:11.600 made it very different. And also, as we discussed with the first one, 113 00:09:13.000 --> 00:09:16.519 the characters are much younger. Yes, and it's I thought that was 114 00:09:18.279 --> 00:09:22.399 very clear, you know, I mean not just in the age of the 115 00:09:22.399 --> 00:09:26.879 actors portraying them, but just the way the way that Tom was simultaneously like 116 00:09:28.039 --> 00:09:33.320 kind of naive and dorky, yeah, but still also very creepy. Yes, 117 00:09:33.960 --> 00:09:39.720 and you know, Marge was slightly more more open. You know, 118 00:09:39.799 --> 00:09:43.919 she didn't cast her get suspicious of Tom until a little bit later, no 119 00:09:45.519 --> 00:09:48.960 than she did in the TV show. And in the TV show we had 120 00:09:48.960 --> 00:09:50.480 that whole thing at the end where she was kind of digging being part of 121 00:09:50.480 --> 00:09:56.480 this lurid crime story was getting her some social currency and getting her book published, 122 00:09:56.519 --> 00:10:03.360 whereas I don't margin the movie just sort of fell apart, right and 123 00:10:03.559 --> 00:10:07.039 they and we never saw her again. Yeah, and they were in the 124 00:10:07.120 --> 00:10:11.759 movie. Her book was you know, barely barely mentioned. Yes, there 125 00:10:11.840 --> 00:10:16.480 was much more of everything. There was so much more backstory on Tom. 126 00:10:18.360 --> 00:10:22.080 You know, Tom starting out as kind of a creepy con man and then 127 00:10:22.679 --> 00:10:28.279 jumping on this as his next opportunity is different than I don't really, we 128 00:10:28.320 --> 00:10:35.039 don't really know anything about Tom's backstory in the movie other than that, I 129 00:10:35.039 --> 00:10:39.639 mean, his apartment was loud, but it wasn't necessarily squalid. He I 130 00:10:39.679 --> 00:10:46.399 mean, his job brushing off old men's jackets in the bathroom not anybody's idea 131 00:10:46.440 --> 00:10:50.759 of a good time but still not you know, criminal, ripping off old 132 00:10:50.840 --> 00:10:56.879 ladies for their right and and he apparently has friends who gives him give him 133 00:10:56.879 --> 00:11:03.799 a gig playing piano. So it's like him going from that to being such 134 00:11:03.840 --> 00:11:13.559 a expert forger and voice imitator. And I mean, I knew it was 135 00:11:13.600 --> 00:11:16.559 coming from the TV show, but it was like it kind of came up 136 00:11:16.720 --> 00:11:20.320 of nowhere. You didn't really have a feeling that this kid was a creep 137 00:11:22.039 --> 00:11:26.799 till that. And I don't know if you even there was just like a 138 00:11:26.840 --> 00:11:33.799 throwaway line at the beginning of the movie where it's like voiceover Tom says, 139 00:11:33.799 --> 00:11:39.919 I wish I never borrowed the jacket. Yeah, and that's kind of what 140 00:11:39.799 --> 00:11:46.039 started it all in motions, right, So that was interesting, Yes, 141 00:11:46.399 --> 00:11:50.600 you know, like did you really like because I feel like, yeah, 142 00:11:50.639 --> 00:11:54.600 at the very end, he was a little bit sad, but also he 143 00:11:56.240 --> 00:12:01.159 was he felt like he got away with a whole lot, right, Well, 144 00:12:01.200 --> 00:12:03.399 I mean, I think he was sad about killing Peter, and I 145 00:12:03.440 --> 00:12:05.799 think that Peter represented a life that he could have had if he hadn't had 146 00:12:05.840 --> 00:12:09.799 all these lies piling up beforehand. But once he was there, he was 147 00:12:09.840 --> 00:12:13.480 stuck he couldn't. I was a little worried for Meredith for a minute, 148 00:12:13.480 --> 00:12:18.200 but then once her family was there, Right, that'd be a lot of 149 00:12:18.279 --> 00:12:22.559 killing, right, Yes, he had to sacrifice Peter, but that was 150 00:12:22.600 --> 00:12:28.679 a messy loose and he could have anticipated. Yes, I think he actually 151 00:12:28.759 --> 00:12:33.960 kind of just told Peter. But it's like what happens after this? Right? 152 00:12:35.320 --> 00:12:39.240 Just the way it ended was like, well but now what Yeah, 153 00:12:39.279 --> 00:12:45.679 well the only person who knows that he's talking on that ship is dead, 154 00:12:45.919 --> 00:12:52.679 but right, m Yeah, just seems like kind of messy. You jump 155 00:12:52.679 --> 00:12:58.519 overboard, just swim to shore. I don't know, we know there's there's 156 00:12:58.720 --> 00:13:05.960 fall what books? So I guess. But and what did you think about 157 00:13:07.360 --> 00:13:16.440 changing from painting to music? Well, I don't think that he was as 158 00:13:16.559 --> 00:13:22.440 obviously stupidly bad at the music as he was at the art. Mm hmm. 159 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:26.000 But it's easier to make dicky with the art, Dickie. Yes, 160 00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:28.720 it's easier to make that joke with the art because you could just put up 161 00:13:28.720 --> 00:13:35.759 something like a fourth grade or Drew. Right. But I guess I don't 162 00:13:35.799 --> 00:13:41.399 know enough about jazz to know if you say an he couldn't, Perhaps I 163 00:13:41.440 --> 00:13:48.759 am with mister greenleave on this, but that was interesting and uh talk and 164 00:13:48.799 --> 00:13:56.399 again that's we don't know if it was a who changed it, you know, 165 00:13:56.639 --> 00:13:58.039 right in the book. And now we've got to read the book. 166 00:13:58.080 --> 00:14:03.399 Now we've got to read the book and talk about it. All the choices 167 00:14:03.440 --> 00:14:11.039 that were made. Yeah, huh. It was interesting and a good movie. 168 00:14:11.399 --> 00:14:16.840 Yeah, but many of the just a lot of it relied on dumb 169 00:14:16.919 --> 00:14:22.799 luck for not to get caught. Yeah, I mean, it's still such 170 00:14:22.840 --> 00:14:30.879 a he's right on that line of like kind of dumb and naive. But 171 00:14:31.039 --> 00:14:33.559 also then you realize after the fact, like, oh, he had to 172 00:14:33.639 --> 00:14:39.480 plan a lot of this, you know. Yeah, I mean he didn't 173 00:14:39.519 --> 00:14:46.039 necessarily plan maybe to kill Dicky on the boat, but he figured out real 174 00:14:46.159 --> 00:14:50.279 quick how to yeah, you know, come back from it. He still 175 00:14:50.320 --> 00:14:54.360 had the same thing where he's sort of our point of view character and so 176 00:14:54.399 --> 00:14:58.679 we were sympathizing with him and wanting to get away with stuff. But also, 177 00:14:58.399 --> 00:15:01.879 and this was true in the in the TV show, also, the 178 00:15:01.919 --> 00:15:07.240 people he kills are really unlikable. You can't feel too bad right for them. 179 00:15:07.799 --> 00:15:13.720 It's like y'all kind of deserve this, you know, right, But 180 00:15:15.840 --> 00:15:18.960 in this I feel even more so than in the in the TV show, 181 00:15:20.360 --> 00:15:28.840 they were just unpleasant dudes. Yeah, the dicky philandering was not something in 182 00:15:28.879 --> 00:15:31.200 the TV show. I don't think, No, I don't think that was 183 00:15:31.279 --> 00:15:39.120 in there. Pregnant woman killed herself and him sort of looking at people every 184 00:15:39.120 --> 00:15:41.240 place he went, looking at women every place he went. Right, So 185 00:15:41.759 --> 00:15:48.440 he was definitely significantly more unlikable in this one. Mm hmm. But still, 186 00:15:50.679 --> 00:15:54.279 you know, if you're gonna be a murderous psychopath, murder guys, 187 00:15:54.440 --> 00:15:58.000 the audience really doesn't care. Although judelaw is very nice to look at. 188 00:15:58.039 --> 00:16:00.960 You could have just left him a little longer there and with the shirt off, 189 00:16:02.440 --> 00:16:07.960 that'd been okay, Yes, absolutely more Hoffman, I love you do, 190 00:16:08.039 --> 00:16:12.480 but you can bash you his head end, but with with a with 191 00:16:12.559 --> 00:16:17.840 a with another call something that's not a it's not a bust, it's just 192 00:16:17.879 --> 00:16:19.759 a head. It's just a head. Yeah. I don't know what the 193 00:16:21.080 --> 00:16:26.080 harder to clean than the ashtray, I would think, I know, Yeah, 194 00:16:26.159 --> 00:16:30.000 yeah, this this had a lot less of the you know, process 195 00:16:30.240 --> 00:16:34.159 of getting rid of the body, getting rid of the boat, getting cleaning 196 00:16:34.240 --> 00:16:38.720 up the apartment, dragging the body down the stairs. Like we got a 197 00:16:38.879 --> 00:16:45.399 lot less of that. Yeah, that's how they filled their extra right, 198 00:16:45.080 --> 00:16:48.120 five and a half hours. Six, No, the land lady better. 199 00:16:48.240 --> 00:16:52.559 We got lots and lots of shops. We didn't have. The only stairs 200 00:16:52.600 --> 00:16:55.240 in this one were the stairs up to his apartment in New York, So 201 00:16:56.120 --> 00:16:59.320 we didn't get the many, many, many Italian stairs, all right, 202 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:06.319 the elevator or the cat, the cat, There was no cat. It's 203 00:17:06.359 --> 00:17:10.480 like there was no Cara. Much time to fill. What are we going 204 00:17:10.559 --> 00:17:12.359 to do? Yeah, there's no Caravagio. There was an opera, which 205 00:17:12.400 --> 00:17:19.240 made Tom cry, But that made sense that if the thing, one of 206 00:17:19.279 --> 00:17:23.079 the things that Tom and Dicky shared was music, then right there needed to 207 00:17:23.079 --> 00:17:29.279 be an opera, not yeah carava. Yeah, that's true because that was 208 00:17:29.400 --> 00:17:37.599 and more reflections versus light and lighting and darkness. My theory about the stairs 209 00:17:37.599 --> 00:17:45.160 in the miniseries or that somebody, the writer or the director spent some time 210 00:17:45.200 --> 00:17:48.759 in Italy and had to go up so many stairs and said, that's what 211 00:17:48.880 --> 00:17:53.000 Italy is like. There's stairs and everything. Still those dang stairs. I 212 00:17:53.079 --> 00:18:00.880 handed the stairs mm hmm, everywhere stairs. Yes, that makes sense. 213 00:18:03.160 --> 00:18:06.559 Well, I'm glad that we watched y. I'm glad we watched both. 214 00:18:06.680 --> 00:18:11.799 Very interesting to compare them, and you know, very different central performances. 215 00:18:11.200 --> 00:18:17.480 Yes, but yeah, partially just due to the one. There was so 216 00:18:17.599 --> 00:18:19.960 much more time. So you feel like you got to know this guy better. 217 00:18:21.480 --> 00:18:23.000 Or isn't this he had to do all his dastardly deeds real quick? 218 00:18:26.680 --> 00:18:32.759 Yep, let's get on with it. Perhaps we should just sail on a 219 00:18:32.799 --> 00:18:40.079 way from those dark doings into something a little lighter on Catherine's Library Find of 220 00:18:40.119 --> 00:18:47.920 the Week, that's right. So sometimes at the library, I you know, 221 00:18:47.960 --> 00:18:51.359 there's books that you just see over and over again, you know, 222 00:18:51.880 --> 00:18:56.519 many times in a shift or whatever. Yeah, over the course of a 223 00:18:56.559 --> 00:19:00.279 week you see this, the same books going in and out and now. 224 00:19:00.240 --> 00:19:07.960 And one of those was remarkably Bright Creatures by Shelby Van Pelt. And so 225 00:19:07.119 --> 00:19:10.960 finally I was like, I'm going I need to read this one, like 226 00:19:11.039 --> 00:19:15.079 I need to find out I had heard of it. It wasn't that I 227 00:19:15.200 --> 00:19:17.799 discovered it at the library. I had heard about it, I had read 228 00:19:17.799 --> 00:19:22.880 about it, But I because after seeing it so much at the library, 229 00:19:22.920 --> 00:19:27.799 I decided to read it. And it's a first novel. It started as 230 00:19:27.839 --> 00:19:36.559 an exercise in a writing class and it is. It has some chapters told 231 00:19:36.599 --> 00:19:45.160 from the perspective of an octopus that lives in an aquarium in the Pacific Northwest, 232 00:19:45.240 --> 00:19:52.839 kind of like a you know, b list aquarium, and the main 233 00:19:52.920 --> 00:19:59.319 character is this older woman who cleans the aquarium at night, and she actually 234 00:19:59.440 --> 00:20:04.119 ends up having a relationship with this octopus, not really like a friendship, 235 00:20:04.279 --> 00:20:08.400 you know, where they glad yes, yeah, please, yeah, it's 236 00:20:08.440 --> 00:20:15.720 not it's not the shape of water, so yeah. And it's just, 237 00:20:18.799 --> 00:20:22.880 you know, it's not groundbreaking in terms of, you know, the writing 238 00:20:23.079 --> 00:20:27.519 or even the story, but put it all together and it's just a lovely 239 00:20:27.599 --> 00:20:36.720 little story about this this octopus and this woman who's grieving the loss of her 240 00:20:36.759 --> 00:20:45.920 son many many years before, probably close to forty years he had he had 241 00:20:45.960 --> 00:20:52.559 died, and and then there's other characters that figure in and her community whatever, 242 00:20:53.759 --> 00:20:59.200 and it's just it's just a fun story. And you do learn about 243 00:20:59.200 --> 00:21:03.799 the octopus, and you know, you you may have heard that octopuses are 244 00:21:03.200 --> 00:21:11.079 very smart, and so you get that here, and it's it's just a 245 00:21:11.319 --> 00:21:15.359 it was just a really delayful read. I enjoyed it nice. There was 246 00:21:15.440 --> 00:21:22.599 a I think it was a documentary maybe or my octopus teacher. Yes, 247 00:21:22.640 --> 00:21:26.440 and I think that they came out kind of around the same time, so 248 00:21:26.480 --> 00:21:32.680 they helped each other out. I believe in these two properties they were not 249 00:21:32.759 --> 00:21:38.279 related. But okay, but this appreciation time, mm hmmm hmm, all 250 00:21:38.400 --> 00:21:45.599 right, yeah, still look creepy to me. If you if you get 251 00:21:45.240 --> 00:21:48.920 bludgeoned by an ore and thrown into the water in a certain area, possibly 252 00:21:49.359 --> 00:21:56.480 an octopus could help you out. That's right, good to know, Tom, 253 00:21:56.519 --> 00:22:03.359 Could you steer over there Probably not a lot of octopuses in the lakes 254 00:22:03.400 --> 00:22:07.000 in Italy, but okay, or what Yeah, they were in the ocean 255 00:22:07.039 --> 00:22:14.519 right, just not far. Yeah, yeah, so I do. I 256 00:22:14.559 --> 00:22:21.079 do recommend it nice remarkably bright creatures. Okay, So now that we have 257 00:22:21.799 --> 00:22:26.240 we have gone through our our two pop culture items, because this is a 258 00:22:26.279 --> 00:22:33.640 fairly recent book, okay, I mean it's not brand new, but or 259 00:22:33.759 --> 00:22:37.839 are we Oh it's two years old? Okay, okay, So we will 260 00:22:37.880 --> 00:22:41.079 take us in through the archives and see what we were talking about one year 261 00:22:41.119 --> 00:22:45.079 ago, two years ago, and nine years ago this week. One year 262 00:22:45.079 --> 00:22:52.119 ago, we were celebrating the arrival of Laila to your can, our little 263 00:22:52.119 --> 00:22:56.400 puppy or she was supposedly one years old. One year old then, but 264 00:22:56.519 --> 00:23:00.960 they she was found in a park, and nobody knows, you know, 265 00:23:00.000 --> 00:23:04.039 where she came from, so it's a guess. My sister in law thinks 266 00:23:04.119 --> 00:23:08.200 that she's much younger. I think, you know, it don't matter, 267 00:23:08.759 --> 00:23:15.599 just love her where she is. But yeah, she came to us as 268 00:23:15.640 --> 00:23:18.920 a fairly timid dog. And she's still to some degree a fairly timid dog. 269 00:23:19.559 --> 00:23:25.519 But beautiful, such a beautiful girl. And she's definitely gotten a little 270 00:23:25.519 --> 00:23:30.920 bigger and mostly is bonded to my daughter. And now that my daughter is 271 00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:33.559 downstairs, the dog spends most of the time downstairs. There are times when 272 00:23:33.599 --> 00:23:37.240 I would not realize we even had a dog if it were not for the 273 00:23:37.400 --> 00:23:44.240 large quantities of dog hair all over the place. Even though she's not theres 274 00:23:45.119 --> 00:23:48.960 there are still piles and piles of dog hair up upstairs, so it's like, 275 00:23:49.000 --> 00:23:52.240 oh, yeah, oh yeah, we got a dog, right, 276 00:23:52.359 --> 00:23:56.079 nice dog. So she comes up every now and then and says hello to 277 00:23:56.160 --> 00:24:00.279 us. But the other night there was a the thing I see to be 278 00:24:00.319 --> 00:24:03.559 on call for are thunderstorms. When there's a thunderstorm, she wants to be 279 00:24:03.559 --> 00:24:07.839 by Grandma. She comes, she crawls under my desk, as she did 280 00:24:07.960 --> 00:24:12.319 a few podcasts ago. And last night. Usually she sleeps on my daughter's 281 00:24:12.359 --> 00:24:15.400 bed, but there was a lot of crashing thunder and she came upstairs and 282 00:24:15.440 --> 00:24:19.039 she stood like I was, you know, she came right by my desk, 283 00:24:21.039 --> 00:24:25.160 and then she went down for a little while, and then she came 284 00:24:25.240 --> 00:24:26.440 up. I was sitting on the couch. She just lay she she can't 285 00:24:26.480 --> 00:24:30.519 come up on the couch, but she like late right down next to where 286 00:24:30.559 --> 00:24:33.279 I was on the couch with her body like plastered against the couch. At 287 00:24:33.279 --> 00:24:37.559 one point she lay on her TV tray. She like wants to stick her 288 00:24:37.559 --> 00:24:41.160 body under something. So she had a bad time in a thunderstorm at some 289 00:24:41.240 --> 00:24:45.200 point in her very young, unprotected puppy life because she's just she was just 290 00:24:45.319 --> 00:24:48.279 trembling the whole time, and I felt so sorry for her. But I 291 00:24:48.279 --> 00:24:52.440 also really wanted to go to bed. I'll fall asleep on the couch her 292 00:24:52.480 --> 00:24:56.960 baby, so I can stay by you, right, But so that is 293 00:24:57.039 --> 00:25:00.160 kind of I don't like to see her that frightened, but it kind of 294 00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:03.640 makes me feel good that she comes to me right right. You're needed. 295 00:25:04.319 --> 00:25:12.319 Yes, Mom's asleep and I'm scared. Well, grandma, so I'm here 296 00:25:12.359 --> 00:25:15.839 for you. Baby. It just made me feel so bad to feel how 297 00:25:15.960 --> 00:25:21.000 much she was shaking. Yeah, so, but it was it was one 298 00:25:21.000 --> 00:25:25.240 of those those thunderstorms where it's like there's lots of lots of mad rumbly thunder 299 00:25:25.279 --> 00:25:30.440 and then all of a sudden there's a boom and everyone and the dog is 300 00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:33.000 like, Okay, we're all dying. Let's got's all together in a circle 301 00:25:33.039 --> 00:25:38.000 and say some prayers, shall we? Right? But anyway, she's had 302 00:25:38.039 --> 00:25:42.000 a couple of fun visits with her cousin dog and uh, it's been a 303 00:25:42.000 --> 00:25:48.839 good year. It seems like we've had her forever. So right in recently 304 00:25:48.839 --> 00:25:52.039 went to the bed and had her check up and everything is good. And 305 00:25:52.119 --> 00:25:59.519 I signed up for the version of pet insurance or that has so they got 306 00:25:59.559 --> 00:26:03.680 me, mm hmm, it's probably not a bad idea, especially so today's 307 00:26:03.759 --> 00:26:07.200 visit for this once a year checkup will be six hundred dollars And I'm like, 308 00:26:07.799 --> 00:26:11.519 whoa, how much is the insurance thing? And they said, oh, 309 00:26:11.559 --> 00:26:15.559 well, if you've an insurance, it's like eighty five dollars a month, 310 00:26:15.599 --> 00:26:17.640 but today's visit will be this much less and I said, okay, 311 00:26:17.680 --> 00:26:18.920 we got a good six or seven months before I catch up to what I 312 00:26:18.920 --> 00:26:23.559 would have paid today. Let's just do it right, let me save money 313 00:26:23.559 --> 00:26:26.680 today. I kept it just every time we go to the bed. It's 314 00:26:26.680 --> 00:26:32.440 like it winds up being a huge amount for what did you do now? 315 00:26:32.799 --> 00:26:40.200 Right? But yeah, welcome to medicine. That's why you know, when 316 00:26:40.200 --> 00:26:45.799 I get the explanation of benefits for how much my medical appointments went work before 317 00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:49.000 insurance, I get the same feeling. So right, anyway, we have 318 00:26:49.079 --> 00:26:56.160 now bit and our care club members. Yeah, that's the thing. So 319 00:26:56.519 --> 00:27:00.960 we probably should have done that back when our dogs were the age Leila is, 320 00:27:02.480 --> 00:27:08.359 yeah, it's far too late. Now. Well it sounds so good, 321 00:27:08.920 --> 00:27:11.160 but and then you get to the point where saying, well this isn't 322 00:27:11.160 --> 00:27:14.400 covered, Well that isn't covered, Well you have it, Well, yes, 323 00:27:14.519 --> 00:27:17.880 no, but this is separate from that. But even so, it'll 324 00:27:17.880 --> 00:27:21.079 be a while before it starts costing me more than just paying for the visit 325 00:27:21.119 --> 00:27:22.720 what it costs. So maybe in that time we'll do And they have a 326 00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:26.559 thing on the on their app that if you're a member, you can talk 327 00:27:26.599 --> 00:27:32.559 to a bed anytime on your phone. Could be handy. My dog ate 328 00:27:32.640 --> 00:27:36.680 this thing. Do I need to worry? I intend to use that a 329 00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:41.759 lot. Yeah, she hasn't eaten in three days. Do I need to 330 00:27:41.759 --> 00:27:45.960 worry? Probably? Yes, she threw up five times. Do I need 331 00:27:45.960 --> 00:27:51.519 to worry? Sometimes she just decides not to eat. I guess you know 332 00:27:51.599 --> 00:27:53.200 she was maybe she had that survival time where she didn't have a lot of 333 00:27:53.200 --> 00:27:56.880 food, and so she's just let me just freak them out for a while. 334 00:27:56.920 --> 00:28:00.279 But I just no, I decline the kibble. Thank you. She's 335 00:28:00.319 --> 00:28:04.720 trying to save you a few dollars on dog food. Let me ask, 336 00:28:04.759 --> 00:28:08.920 when you do serve your dog's kibble? Yes, okay, what do you 337 00:28:08.960 --> 00:28:12.839 put on it to make it non teeth breaking? You put a liquid of 338 00:28:12.880 --> 00:28:15.599 some sort on it? Right, No, we just give it to him. 339 00:28:15.920 --> 00:28:18.920 I just give it to them like dry cereal. It's pretty small, 340 00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:22.640 like we get the ones that are pretty small pieces. Well, I mean 341 00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:27.279 there are times when we've put chicken broth on it. Yeah. See, 342 00:28:27.480 --> 00:28:30.839 we put water on it because she declines to eat it when it is super 343 00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:33.240 crunchy. I don't know if she has a tooth problem where it's just like 344 00:28:33.359 --> 00:28:38.240 try harder, but we put water on it to soften it, and then 345 00:28:38.279 --> 00:28:41.559 put some canned food on top, and then she will generally eat it, 346 00:28:41.640 --> 00:28:48.319 sometimes not. My sister in law heats up chicken or vegetable broth to pour 347 00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:49.759 over the kibble. That's all that we should do the same. And I'm 348 00:28:49.799 --> 00:28:55.480 like, okay, we're not quite that extra. We're just it's like you 349 00:28:55.519 --> 00:28:57.240 would eat something rotten out of the middle of the street, eat the damp 350 00:28:57.720 --> 00:29:03.039 water. But I don't know if we're just being if we're just like bread 351 00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:06.839 and watering her like monsters, or if we should be Well, you could 352 00:29:06.839 --> 00:29:11.359 try the broth without heating it up. Yeah, this isn't a gross I 353 00:29:11.400 --> 00:29:15.680 would I would rather have water than cold chicken broth out of a carton. 354 00:29:15.079 --> 00:29:18.720 But then that's why you are not a dog a dog, that is true. 355 00:29:19.359 --> 00:29:23.279 But but I think I still would be losing points by not heating it 356 00:29:23.359 --> 00:29:26.680 up. I think it's a if you love your dog, this is what 357 00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:27.759 you do, you heat up. Of course it would not be me. 358 00:29:27.960 --> 00:29:33.119 It would be my daughter who is responsible for feeding. So maybe I should 359 00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:37.440 just make her do that just for a giggle. But uh, anyway, 360 00:29:37.960 --> 00:29:47.359 she's a good girl, well daughter also girls, yeah, well yeah, 361 00:29:47.400 --> 00:29:52.440 and we've found that there are certain foods they like better than others. Yeah, 362 00:29:52.480 --> 00:29:56.440 you know, so that could also be playing a role. Yeah, 363 00:29:56.480 --> 00:29:59.039 that's true. If you switch your if we switch your food, sometimes she 364 00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:02.920 just goes through a little period of throwing up. So yeah, thinking that 365 00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:07.000 way, Yeah, it's it took us a little while to hit on. 366 00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:12.279 And now I swear they're like the cheap kind, like just grocery store kibble. 367 00:30:14.279 --> 00:30:18.880 We're not buying them fancy stuff from the pet store. Like, yeah, 368 00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:21.359 we're still buying the fancy stuff from the pet store. We we'll get 369 00:30:21.400 --> 00:30:27.039 to the grocery store stuff soon because it's pricey. Man, I know we 370 00:30:27.119 --> 00:30:32.079 got two of them. I need the care club from the pet coats, 371 00:30:32.160 --> 00:30:37.119 right, I bet they, I bet I bet they? Yes. But 372 00:30:37.480 --> 00:30:42.359 anyway, happy first, you're with us, Leila. Yes, such a 373 00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:47.640 sweetie. Such a gorgeous little dog, not so little anymore, but gorgeous, 374 00:30:47.640 --> 00:30:52.960 still gorgeous and right if you look at her just the right angle, 375 00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:56.720 you cannot see her eyes at all. It's like unless unless she's got insulted 376 00:30:56.799 --> 00:31:02.440 so that that the white are showing. She just looks like a black hole 377 00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:08.160 of dog. So what else were we talking? About let's see, well 378 00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:14.359 we were we were talking about the work life seesaw and how and how you 379 00:31:14.400 --> 00:31:17.599 know, when your kids are very little, there's a lot of you know, 380 00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:22.880 juggling and balancing that goes on, and when they get older, you're 381 00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:30.599 still you're still doing it. So, I mean, I I definitely find 382 00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:37.039 even though you know, right now my son is home, you know, 383 00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:47.799 he obviously he's been at school before earlier this year. But I feel a 384 00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:53.640 little guilty, you know, working all the time, which I am, 385 00:31:55.079 --> 00:31:59.519 but it's not like he's I mean, he's in his he's not He's not 386 00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:02.400 going to be hanging out with me if he's if I wasn't working. So 387 00:32:02.640 --> 00:32:12.640 yeah, well that's true. Yeah, I'm working pretty steadily. I don't 388 00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:16.400 have to do that much anymore. For anything. There's no school stuff to 389 00:32:16.440 --> 00:32:22.160 do, there's no homework to work on. There's occasionally I will pick my 390 00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:25.720 son up at work, but mostly my daughter and husband do it. So 391 00:32:28.119 --> 00:32:30.039 you know, I do still drive. I can still drive. It's fine. 392 00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:34.039 But if somebody else wants to drive, I'm happy to let him. 393 00:32:34.599 --> 00:32:37.920 M hm. So. And my daughter always generally always likes to have an 394 00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:43.119 opportunity to drive her car, so right, she's so works out. So 395 00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:45.920 yeah, so I'm I am able to keep the seesaw all the way on 396 00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:52.960 one side for as long as I want. And since we had the rumory 397 00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:57.319 arrangement, so now I'm in my son's old bedroom as my office instead of 398 00:32:57.400 --> 00:33:00.480 the back of my bedroom, I'm sort of a little bit more in the 399 00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:02.119 mix of things. If I have the door open, I see what you 400 00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:06.200 can see what's going on, and hear what's going on and say hello and 401 00:33:06.200 --> 00:33:08.359 goodbye to people and not have to, you know, leave my desk to 402 00:33:08.359 --> 00:33:13.160 do things. So that's been nice. And I can also close my door 403 00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:17.960 if it's too much hope. So I think the csaw is pretty much completely 404 00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:22.319 tilted onto one end, but that makes it easier for me to get on, 405 00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:27.519 you know, just a lock on. We'll just keep it down here. 406 00:33:28.880 --> 00:33:32.720 Grandma won't have to climb anything or push things down. It's good. 407 00:33:34.039 --> 00:33:38.279 Which is going to work? I like working. Working's fine. Yep. 408 00:33:38.599 --> 00:33:44.519 One of these days I may have to consider retirement, but not yet, 409 00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:49.079 not there yet, Nope. Yeah, I'm trying to cut back a little 410 00:33:49.079 --> 00:33:54.079 bit because I you know, I have the two jobs and when I've first 411 00:33:54.119 --> 00:33:58.359 applied for the for the library job, I thought it was going to be 412 00:33:58.400 --> 00:34:04.480 fewer hours than it is. And also at that time I didn't have as 413 00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:10.159 many hours going on with my other my freelance contract. And now for the 414 00:34:10.199 --> 00:34:15.840 past two months it's been you know, the full well, the library hours 415 00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:19.320 have never changed, it's always been the same time, but it's been the 416 00:34:19.320 --> 00:34:23.559 maximum on the contract. And plus they're I was like, can you do 417 00:34:23.639 --> 00:34:30.880 more? Can you do more? Like no? So I had agreed to 418 00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:32.599 it for the month of May, and then when June came around, I 419 00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:35.960 said, okay, I'm going back to where I was. And they're like, 420 00:34:35.960 --> 00:34:37.599 oh, can you do it again for June? And I was like 421 00:34:39.559 --> 00:34:44.280 okay, because you know you can't. Yeah, I feel like you really 422 00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:49.039 can't say no. So then, you know, just this week I got 423 00:34:49.079 --> 00:34:53.400 the like, okay, the new quarter is starting. How many hours are 424 00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:58.639 you committed to and can you do more? Yeah? And so I said 425 00:34:58.679 --> 00:35:01.840 no, I'm going back to where I was and that's where and they have 426 00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:07.880 not replied, like it was like, please reply to this email with a 427 00:35:07.960 --> 00:35:10.519 number of hours, and so I did, and I basically said I'm going 428 00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:14.719 back to where I was, you know, in April, which is the 429 00:35:14.760 --> 00:35:17.880 difference of five hours. By the way, it's not crazy. That's a 430 00:35:19.000 --> 00:35:23.400 difference in your It makes a huge difference. I mean, that's one hour 431 00:35:23.559 --> 00:35:30.400 per day, per work day, and it basically if I can't do it, 432 00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:36.440 then that's a full day on the weekend. So that's kind of where 433 00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:39.320 I've been a lot of the time. Yeah. I had a patch like 434 00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:44.480 that a few years ago where it was like everybody was saying, can you 435 00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:46.559 do more? And I'm like, sure, bore, I get on and 436 00:35:46.599 --> 00:35:49.880 I'm like, how many hours are in a day? Let me see twenty 437 00:35:49.920 --> 00:35:54.239 four times seven? Oh sure, Oh god, sleep, It'll be fine. 438 00:35:55.639 --> 00:36:00.000 And then a lot of it is tapered off. A couple of clients 439 00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:02.280 have just disappeared, and other ones have decided that they don't really care about 440 00:36:02.320 --> 00:36:07.800 mistakes that much, so try less hard on your proofreading, right, you 441 00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:09.719 know. So it's like, oh, I'm glad, you know. Work 442 00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:15.480 life balance so good, except that means no money so good. We swing 443 00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:17.920 the seas at a little bit. So anyway, so right now it's at 444 00:36:17.920 --> 00:36:22.239 a fairly manageable amount. And I keep thinking do I want to take more 445 00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:28.119 or do I want to just try to do some creative things. I mean, 446 00:36:28.159 --> 00:36:30.280 I keep thinking, do I need a substack? Should I have a 447 00:36:30.280 --> 00:36:37.519 substack? Maybe I should have a substack. Everybody else bal I'm sure people 448 00:36:37.559 --> 00:36:42.559 would pay me for my thoughts. But it's just like, there's all these 449 00:36:42.599 --> 00:36:45.840 creative options that I never have time to do, and maybe I should just 450 00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:50.519 sort of semi retire from the other stuff and do fun stuff. Not that 451 00:36:50.559 --> 00:36:53.679 writing is fun stuff. Who are we kidding? Writing is misery. Criticizing 452 00:36:53.719 --> 00:37:00.320 other people's writing is fun stuff. That's my day job. Yeah, love 453 00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:04.920 that, But slowly, but surely I'm going to have to retire because my 454 00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:09.519 eyes will go and you know, I feel that day getting closer and closer. 455 00:37:09.679 --> 00:37:15.800 You can only zume that she text out so so much. Thank god 456 00:37:15.880 --> 00:37:20.400 I live in a time we have that option, a back lighted screen to 457 00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:25.119 read off of, and letters that you can make larger. If I was 458 00:37:25.239 --> 00:37:30.719 still having to work on paper, I would be retired already. So but 459 00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:34.719 I kind of hate to think of it. It sounds boring to stop. 460 00:37:36.039 --> 00:37:44.960 Also, you could be like my mom just turned eighty three, were still 461 00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:49.719 working. I see myself that way, honestly, and as long as I'm 462 00:37:49.719 --> 00:37:52.559 freelancing, I certainly could I do think, I do think, with some 463 00:37:52.719 --> 00:37:55.920 jealousy of your library job, that sounds so nice to just like get out 464 00:37:55.920 --> 00:38:00.000 of the house for a while and be with people and be doing something. 465 00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:04.039 I mean, I spent many many years in school libraries helping out, so 466 00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:08.079 I have some familiarity with the work. But our library hasn't been hiring for 467 00:38:08.119 --> 00:38:14.079 anything that I would be qualified for. So the school district would be welcome 468 00:38:14.119 --> 00:38:20.039 me back as a volunteer. But we do volunteers at our library too. 469 00:38:20.119 --> 00:38:23.320 Yeah, yeah, oh h obviously you don't get paid. It would have 470 00:38:23.400 --> 00:38:27.360 to be. It would have Yeah, I can find things to do all 471 00:38:27.400 --> 00:38:30.599 by myself for no money. It would have been for many many years, 472 00:38:31.480 --> 00:38:37.039 like for example, this podcast, Oh not nine years ago. Oh I 473 00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:39.440 messed up our intro. It wasn't one year ago, two years ago, 474 00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:45.239 and nine years ago. It was one year ago, four years ago, 475 00:38:45.719 --> 00:38:51.679 and five years I guess I am not sixty nine, No, you you 476 00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:55.639 are turning sixty five. And so when back when you turned sixty, we 477 00:38:55.679 --> 00:39:00.039 did a whole we did a whole episode about the fake life deadlines of you 478 00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:07.199 know, those round number birthdays and things like graduation and even retirement. Yes, 479 00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:10.079 Yeah. My husband just turned seventy, and it was like, are 480 00:39:10.079 --> 00:39:13.320 you going to retire? And he's like, eh, he doesn't hate his 481 00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:16.280 job right now, so what the heck? He'll just keep going while and 482 00:39:17.760 --> 00:39:23.719 you know, I'm trying to be a supportive wife and say that, you 483 00:39:23.760 --> 00:39:27.639 know, you've been working since you were in high school. You should be 484 00:39:27.679 --> 00:39:30.159 able to knock off if you want to. And then the voice in my 485 00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:31.960 head is going, but the money is nice, and this way, I 486 00:39:31.960 --> 00:39:36.760 don't have to sign up for the Medicare part B until you retire, you 487 00:39:36.840 --> 00:39:40.239 know, do retire. And then also, are you really just going to 488 00:39:40.280 --> 00:39:44.599 sit around and watch all TV all day? Is that your retirement? Is 489 00:39:44.639 --> 00:39:46.920 that what it's going to be? Honey, I thank you so much. 490 00:39:49.480 --> 00:39:52.840 Be good for you to get out and be with people. You got friends 491 00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:57.079 at work. It's nice. Keep going. No, honestly, if you 492 00:39:57.119 --> 00:40:00.840 wanted to, it would be fine. But yeah, this is is sixty 493 00:40:00.840 --> 00:40:02.880 five for me, which is a big, a big fake life deadline because 494 00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:07.639 it's you have to deal with Medicare. And boy is this a racket. 495 00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:12.440 Since they had these Medicare advantage things. There is serious competition for your Medicare 496 00:40:12.480 --> 00:40:15.840 dollar, and like for the past six months, I've been getting things in 497 00:40:15.880 --> 00:40:19.360 the mail, call us, talk to us, come to this meeting. 498 00:40:19.519 --> 00:40:22.440 We'll tell you all about our great plans. Lots of things, inviting me 499 00:40:22.519 --> 00:40:24.840 to dinner at a local restaurant so that they can tell me about their plans. 500 00:40:25.400 --> 00:40:29.760 Just it's like a feeding frenzy, and I think it's been pretty much 501 00:40:29.960 --> 00:40:36.440 for the past six months. Yeah, with increasing urgency. So because there's 502 00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:38.679 a window, right, I mean, you have to sign up for certain 503 00:40:38.760 --> 00:40:43.440 things you have from I think it's from two months before your birthday to two 504 00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:49.199 months after. And the big questionable thing is I believe Medicare B. The 505 00:40:49.239 --> 00:40:52.960 A everybody gets you automatically get it, it's you just have to go sign 506 00:40:52.039 --> 00:40:55.559 up for it. But the B you have to pay for. And now 507 00:40:55.599 --> 00:40:59.719 they have this Medicare advantage. So maybe instead of getting it from the government, 508 00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:01.920 you want to get it from one of these insurers. And they all 509 00:41:01.960 --> 00:41:06.199 have their pluses and minuses, they have their how much it costs, all 510 00:41:06.239 --> 00:41:08.559 this stuff, and it's like, I just do not have the bandwidth for 511 00:41:08.599 --> 00:41:12.440 this at this moment. Please go away. I don't want to think about 512 00:41:12.480 --> 00:41:15.679 this, but I have to think about it because the story that you usually 513 00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:20.239 get is if you don't enroll in Medicare B when you first turn sixty five, 514 00:41:20.480 --> 00:41:22.400 you're going to pay a penalty on it for the rest of your life. 515 00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:25.679 It's going to be more expensive, and so it's like, well, 516 00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:28.960 then you got to do it. In fact, when my husband did it 517 00:41:29.000 --> 00:41:30.239 when he turned sixty five, because he you know, we were looking at 518 00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:31.960 all this stuff, he says, I'm just going to buy I'm just gonna 519 00:41:31.960 --> 00:41:34.880 get it. So we pay for that, and now it comes out of 520 00:41:34.920 --> 00:41:39.400 his Social Security check. But my friend said she went to when she signed 521 00:41:39.440 --> 00:41:43.039 up for medicare, they said, you're still working, why do you want 522 00:41:43.039 --> 00:41:45.079 to pay for this? You have insurance through your employer. You don't need 523 00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:49.239 to do this yet. So what it is, this is my public service 524 00:41:49.280 --> 00:41:53.639 for old people like me. If you are getting insurance from your employer still 525 00:41:53.840 --> 00:41:58.840 or from your spouse's employer in my case, you do not have to take 526 00:41:58.960 --> 00:42:04.519 part B. You have until six months after that insurance ends to sign up 527 00:42:04.559 --> 00:42:09.199 for it. So the thing to do is don't sign up for it now. 528 00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:13.760 When it looks like you or your spouse are going to retire, then 529 00:42:14.679 --> 00:42:16.159 put start the paperwork for it. And you will not pay a penalty. 530 00:42:17.039 --> 00:42:21.840 So this is what it says on the Medicare Social Security site. It's what 531 00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:25.880 the lady I finally called from one of the people hawking me for stuff to 532 00:42:25.960 --> 00:42:30.760 clarify with her. Very nice person. Do you ever, sometimes she's a 533 00:42:30.760 --> 00:42:34.159 salesperson, so that's probably why she was very nice, but didn't give that 534 00:42:34.280 --> 00:42:40.119 vibe. Just so, somebody are the medical practice that we go to contracts 535 00:42:40.159 --> 00:42:47.440 with a company to sell its patients Medicare plans that they will take. So 536 00:42:49.599 --> 00:42:52.440 I got like twenty five letters saying call these people. What did you call 537 00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:54.679 them? Hey, summit patient, why did you call them? Have you 538 00:42:54.679 --> 00:42:58.920 called them yet? You should call them now? So finally I called just 539 00:42:58.960 --> 00:43:00.199 so I could clarify that it didn't have to do anything with the part B 540 00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:06.119 right now, nicest lady. We had a lovely chat and she agreed that 541 00:43:06.119 --> 00:43:07.679 that was the case, and she gave me her phone number. When you 542 00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:10.840 get round to do this, call me and then I'll sell you things. 543 00:43:12.079 --> 00:43:16.480 And you know, we just had a lovely conversation. So that was the 544 00:43:16.519 --> 00:43:19.960 best part of this whole thing. Is just meet and Mary, Hey, 545 00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:22.480 Mary, I don't think it listening to a podcast. But you were a 546 00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:24.519 delight to talk to. So probably when I call you back and you have 547 00:43:24.559 --> 00:43:28.639 to actually sell me something, it will be all different. But right now 548 00:43:29.159 --> 00:43:35.000 we just had a nice person to person talk. So anyway, sixty five 549 00:43:35.639 --> 00:43:37.400 it's here. It will be passed by the time y'all are listening to this. 550 00:43:37.639 --> 00:43:40.800 And yes, I do feel old, if that is your question. 551 00:43:40.920 --> 00:43:46.960 I do. I do. Indeed, every part of me hurts. And 552 00:43:47.960 --> 00:43:52.159 you know I was. I did all this still my blood pressure was too 553 00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:55.119 high. So I did all these lifestyle things for my blood pressure, including 554 00:43:55.119 --> 00:43:59.760 eating certain foods, and the blood pressure went down yay. And then I 555 00:43:59.800 --> 00:44:01.760 went to another doctor's appointment, and it turns out my potassium is too high. 556 00:44:01.840 --> 00:44:05.960 So I look at the high potassium foods. They are all the same 557 00:44:05.960 --> 00:44:09.199 foods that lower your blood pressure. So what do I do? I can't 558 00:44:09.239 --> 00:44:16.320 win. I can't freaking win, so wonderful anyway, I go to a 559 00:44:16.320 --> 00:44:20.840 lot of doctor's appointments. This is what sixty five looks like, right. 560 00:44:21.000 --> 00:44:23.599 I think I mentioned here before that I hadn't. I had an appointment to 561 00:44:23.599 --> 00:44:27.039 get shots in my eyes, and then I went immediately upstairs to get my 562 00:44:27.039 --> 00:44:30.199 teeth cleaned. That same day, I also went to the cardiologist in the 563 00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:34.760 morning, So wow, a three appointment. You're efficient. I'm efficient. 564 00:44:35.039 --> 00:44:38.360 Just group all those suckers together, right. If I could get them to 565 00:44:38.480 --> 00:44:43.800 like do all the blood work at wants instead of like every two weeks I'm 566 00:44:43.800 --> 00:44:47.800 getting a neil in my arm, that'd be great, but that doesn't seem 567 00:44:47.800 --> 00:44:55.880 to work anyway. Growing older ladies and gentlemen, I recommend it better than 568 00:44:55.880 --> 00:45:00.079 the alternatives. What they always say. Absolutely, and I am very fortunate 569 00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:09.639 that I have only had mostly minor annoyances rather than something truly life threatening or 570 00:45:09.719 --> 00:45:15.559 challenging. So right, it gives me thanks to wind About on a podcast. 571 00:45:15.039 --> 00:45:24.280 Right, absolutely, do you have any fake like life deadlines looking you 572 00:45:24.320 --> 00:45:29.199 in the face? Not really. I mean, my birthday is coming to 573 00:45:29.320 --> 00:45:32.239 but it's not. It's not a zero or a five, so we can 574 00:45:32.519 --> 00:45:38.679 just let it. Let it roll on by. I did have speaking of 575 00:45:39.119 --> 00:45:46.079 feeling ancient at work the other day that the movie The Breakfast Club came up. 576 00:45:46.199 --> 00:45:53.599 Yes, and multiple, like four or five of my coworkers we're like, 577 00:45:53.679 --> 00:46:00.039 oh, yeah, we watched that in school. No as like a 578 00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:06.960 sociology. I was like, what are you serious? And one of them's 579 00:46:07.039 --> 00:46:09.119 like, I swear she's only like ten years younger than me. I was 580 00:46:09.199 --> 00:46:12.960 like, or maybe fifteen, okay, fifteen, yeah, but I was 581 00:46:13.000 --> 00:46:17.280 like, wait, this this was an assignment. They watched it in school 582 00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:24.519 the breakfast club. Are you serious? Oh oh my god, this is 583 00:46:24.880 --> 00:46:34.280 disturbing. Disrespectful is what it is, Yes, exactness. I was not 584 00:46:34.440 --> 00:46:42.559 happy. So, oh, my deadline, it's sobering, it really is. 585 00:46:46.400 --> 00:46:51.800 Well, well, I think you should take us out and explain. 586 00:46:52.280 --> 00:46:55.280 Yes, we have the milestone that's going on here. Now that we've talked 587 00:46:55.280 --> 00:47:00.199 about where we've been, let's talk about where we're going. We're coming up 588 00:47:00.239 --> 00:47:07.920 on about a year, speaking of deadlines, from when Nicole abandoned us to 589 00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:14.760 ourselves and changed. Yes, she retired from our podcast. We did not 590 00:47:14.840 --> 00:47:20.480 have much of a retirement plan, so she's still doing stuff but not able 591 00:47:20.480 --> 00:47:22.880 to just sit home, watch much movies and eat pond bonds on our retirement 592 00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:27.920 plan. But anyway, we've been doing this weekly round up once a week 593 00:47:28.159 --> 00:47:34.039 since then. And the quandary that we had when Nicole left was should we 594 00:47:34.119 --> 00:47:37.280 just do our round two entertainment episodes with Catherine and I have been doing or 595 00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:40.360 should we keep doing parenting stuff, and it's like, well, you know, 596 00:47:42.119 --> 00:47:44.760 it will be fun to just do the entertainment stuff. But we do 597 00:47:44.800 --> 00:47:47.679 have kind of parenting in the name of our podcast, and we've been doing 598 00:47:47.679 --> 00:47:51.599 this for a ridiculous amount of time. We don't really want to start over 599 00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:54.480 with a new title. We have, you know, four or five porn 600 00:47:54.519 --> 00:47:59.760 bots from Twitter following us faithfully, so we don't really want to upset our 601 00:47:59.800 --> 00:48:04.000 listeners. But on the other hand, as we've gone through this year, 602 00:48:04.119 --> 00:48:07.840 I find that I have less and less to say about parenting and more and 603 00:48:07.920 --> 00:48:12.519 more streaming stuff that I haven't seen that I want to or that I want 604 00:48:12.559 --> 00:48:16.840 to go back and watch again. So we're going to try to do a 605 00:48:16.880 --> 00:48:23.400 really ridiculous hybrid here and we'll see how y'all link like it. We are 606 00:48:23.440 --> 00:48:30.519 going to go to three three times a week. On Tuesday, we will 607 00:48:30.519 --> 00:48:36.039 discuss an old entertainment product, in this case, we're going to start with 608 00:48:36.239 --> 00:48:43.239 Lost, and then on Wednesday we're going to do a new entertainment product. 609 00:48:43.440 --> 00:48:45.840 In this case, we're going to talk about a Gentleman in Moscow, which 610 00:48:45.840 --> 00:48:52.400 we believe is on paramount plus with Showtime whatever permutation of vou may have available 611 00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:57.800 to you. And then on Thursday we will do a little round about round 612 00:48:57.880 --> 00:49:01.480 up with Catherine's library fine of the week and something that I'll find to talk 613 00:49:01.519 --> 00:49:06.159 about, and maybe one item from our archives. And the way we're going 614 00:49:06.239 --> 00:49:10.119 to keep it parenting is that as we discuss these entertainment products, we're going 615 00:49:10.119 --> 00:49:14.559 to try to pull some parenting insights out of them, put a little parenting 616 00:49:14.639 --> 00:49:17.199 spin on it, to have fun with it, and we hope you will 617 00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:22.440 have fun with it also. That will start next week. So on for 618 00:49:22.519 --> 00:49:28.000 Tuesday's episode, we're going to watch the first episode of Lost on Netflix. 619 00:49:28.360 --> 00:49:31.280 Catherine has never seen it. I watched the whole series and liked it, 620 00:49:31.360 --> 00:49:37.480 even the ending I liked. I've seen one episode because we've watched I dater 621 00:49:37.639 --> 00:49:44.000 watched the Constant Yeah, which was more of a standalone episode than most Lost 622 00:49:44.079 --> 00:49:46.480 episodes. It could be followed without knowing the whole thing, but oh, 623 00:49:46.920 --> 00:49:51.400 oh my gosh, is there a whole thing to know? So I don't 624 00:49:51.440 --> 00:49:53.719 know how long we will go with Lost. We're going to commit to watching 625 00:49:53.760 --> 00:49:58.199 the first dozen episodes and then if Catherine is in, we'll finish the season 626 00:49:58.239 --> 00:50:04.000 and we'll take it little by little from there. And then so for next 627 00:50:04.679 --> 00:50:10.119 Tuesday, we will watch episode one Bucky Year Seatbelts, And on Wednesday we 628 00:50:10.159 --> 00:50:15.679 will watch the first episode of A Gentleman in Moscow. And on Thursday we 629 00:50:15.679 --> 00:50:19.679 will have our first of these roundups. So please stick with us, please 630 00:50:20.039 --> 00:50:24.440 help us find our way through this awkward transition, and we hope you will 631 00:50:24.519 --> 00:50:32.440 enjoy it and be entertained by it. And that is it for this last, 632 00:50:32.679 --> 00:50:37.079 big, fat long weekly episode of Parenting Roundabout, at least for the 633 00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:39.880 next little while, until we get bored of this new format and go back 634 00:50:39.920 --> 00:50:44.239 to something else. You can find all our episodes. That's on Spreaker, 635 00:50:44.280 --> 00:50:46.360 Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, or wherever you get your podcasts. You can 636 00:50:46.400 --> 00:50:51.559 find recaps, links and an opportunity to comment on our website at parentingroundabout dot 637 00:50:51.599 --> 00:50:54.199 com. You can also talk to us on our Facebook page, on Instagram 638 00:50:54.280 --> 00:50:58.440 or on Twitter, where you'll find us at roundabout Chat. And please visit 639 00:50:58.519 --> 00:51:02.920 our Amazon shop at Amazon slash Shop slash Mamitude, where you can find links 640 00:51:02.920 --> 00:51:06.880 to a lot of the things we've talked about over the years. We'll see 641 00:51:06.880 --> 00:51:13.320 you back here next Tuesday. Goodbye Catherine, Bye Terry, Goodbye everybody,