1 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:21,519 Every god damn week with this intro will not start properly. Hey, everybody, 2 00:00:22,039 --> 00:00:27,519 welcome to Challenge podcast. All about the Challenge. I'm Brian sitting up 3 00:00:27,559 --> 00:00:35,640 in Minnesota, carlon San Diego and sitting at work like usual. Zachi Bananas. 4 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,079 All right, you're too excited, Zach. You need to bring it 5 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:49,359 down to everybody else's come on now. This episode seeing Jordan, God, 6 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:54,359 it made me so happy. I know spoilers, but seriously, I mean 7 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,799 we were talking to the pre show. Brian said that this was the best 8 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:03,399 episode of the season so far. I agree, and I immediately started thinking 9 00:01:03,439 --> 00:01:06,359 of Tim because I know that he I have a feeling that he would say 10 00:01:06,439 --> 00:01:11,079 exactly what I'm about to say. That Jordan's showing up proves why they should 11 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:17,760 have had old Challengers on this show, because he injected life into the show 12 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:25,879 immediately, and he was there for five minutes. They just immediately showed like, 13 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:30,959 oh this is what I'm missing. It was pretty amazing having him there. 14 00:01:32,799 --> 00:01:37,719 Oh so nice. Well that's the show, everybody, Thanks for stopping 15 00:01:37,719 --> 00:01:42,480 by. Good night everyone. To you next week, head over to Challenge 16 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,959 by dot com Joe, the Facebook group Petreon, which I need to pull 17 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,799 up the other stuff for later, Carlin, do you want to jump into 18 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,640 what happened in this episode? I thought Tim tech nuts, Well, we're 19 00:01:53,640 --> 00:02:04,879 all fucked then, who's Tim? Yeah, I'll remember that guy. Don't 20 00:02:04,879 --> 00:02:07,199 worry. We're not flying by the seat of our pants again, all right. 21 00:02:08,159 --> 00:02:14,719 Season thirty nine, episode five. I have it written down this episode 22 00:02:14,719 --> 00:02:20,520 four because apparently I don't know how to use numbers. Uh, countdown to 23 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:28,599 chaos, all right. We start off like we always do, heading back 24 00:02:28,599 --> 00:02:31,919 to the house. Everybody's super excited at Kylon's back. They're congratulating him, 25 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:43,960 and then they look up and see, oh, yeah, Wolfe is screaming 26 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,520 at his dog. He has muted himself so no one can hear him. 27 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:53,560 But she's got good timing. It is the right time to do that, 28 00:02:55,680 --> 00:03:04,120 you know, all right, so they know you're good. They look up 29 00:03:04,159 --> 00:03:09,960 and see the countdown clock hanging in their dining room and everybody goes ape shit 30 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,360 hmm. They're like, oh my god, it's almost chaos. It's almost 31 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:22,280 here. They have no idea what chaos is, but yes, so lots 32 00:03:22,319 --> 00:03:25,479 of talking about it, lots of very exciting things, very excited people. 33 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:30,639 It's Melissa, right, Yeah, Melissa talks about how she's been looking for 34 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,599 it and all all this time it was above where I was eating my breakfast. 35 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:40,400 What did they think that was up there all the time. I mean, 36 00:03:40,439 --> 00:03:44,560 I wouldn't be surprised if I'm sure we could go back and look. 37 00:03:44,639 --> 00:03:49,639 They either didn't have it on the wall or they just had like a I 38 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,759 don't know, uh said over the top. No Is said the challenge the 39 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,680 whole time. Yeah, so they just had a lamin and over it. 40 00:03:57,759 --> 00:04:02,800 Then it just flipped over to to be in the clock. I mean it's 41 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,520 a good way to do it. Yeah, it works. Yeah. And 42 00:04:06,599 --> 00:04:14,439 then we also we also get this little confessional from Asaf saying that he is 43 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,639 working with the Americans, but the only person who knows that he's working with 44 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:23,120 the Americans is Jay. He says all of that right in the roads. 45 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,600 Then how are you working with the Americans if they don't know that you're working 46 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:34,000 with them? It's plausible deniability. I guess each side doesn't know. I'm 47 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:38,160 also fas as to how he's on the Americans team when he is international. 48 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:46,759 So whatever no one said Asoff was just smart. I mean, he thinks 49 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,800 that people are his best friends after two weeks of knowing someone. So I 50 00:04:49,879 --> 00:04:56,519 agree him and j are real best friends outside of the show. Yeah, 51 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,160 they are real best friends outside of the show. But he and Corey are 52 00:04:59,199 --> 00:05:00,800 not, so I don't know, we'll get into that later. Uh. 53 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:08,439 We then cut to the next morning and Kieren and Zara are boxing, and 54 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:14,800 Karen's real he looks real professional with its whole like you've got to lead with 55 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:18,000 your your shoulder, got to keep your keep your face behind your lead, 56 00:05:18,519 --> 00:05:20,879 just like, oh my god, all right, yeah, I mean it 57 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,879 was it was five minutes of time that they could have cut it. There 58 00:05:23,879 --> 00:05:27,279 were a lot of extra time things in this that we didn't need to see, 59 00:05:27,879 --> 00:05:32,839 but whatever. Then we get our first montage of the of the day. 60 00:05:33,399 --> 00:05:38,480 Uh. And then we see them walking out of the house to the 61 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:46,360 challenge grounds and they get there and TJ says, chaos has started housema, 62 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:56,720 yeah, time for the challenge. TJ starts explaining what chaos is going to 63 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,920 be. He says, you'll never know what game is going to be played, 64 00:05:58,959 --> 00:06:05,240 which they never know what game is going to be played, and then 65 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:09,519 he tells them that it could be in pairs, it could be in teams, 66 00:06:09,639 --> 00:06:15,319 or it could be individual. Sure. So this episode, this challenge 67 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:20,680 is going to be played in pairs, and it's called upside down World World 68 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:29,040 not spelled like World that with a like World Things that Spin, which I 69 00:06:29,079 --> 00:06:35,480 guess the world's you know whatever. The game is played on the side of 70 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:41,639 a semi because they really like the semi things. There's a giant propeller attached 71 00:06:41,639 --> 00:06:46,600 to the side of the semi that both players from the pair are strapped on 72 00:06:46,639 --> 00:06:51,279 either end of this propeller, and the propeller is turning around and as it 73 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:56,160 turns, they have to grab rings from the top of the semi and as 74 00:06:56,199 --> 00:06:59,720 it gets going around, they then have to drop the rings or throw the 75 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,519 ring, or toss the rings, or just place the rings on top of 76 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:08,879 pillars that are along the ground on this runway. And if you get it 77 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,399 on the pillar, it's ten points. If you get it in the yellow 78 00:07:12,439 --> 00:07:15,120 area around the pillar, but only around some of the pillars, it's five 79 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:19,800 points, and the team with the most points wins and they are safe from 80 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:29,040 elimination. Yes, our first immunity. Yeah, So pans over everybody and 81 00:07:29,079 --> 00:07:32,040 they all look super excited and they're also kind of worried because he says that 82 00:07:32,079 --> 00:07:36,759 the pairs are going to be randomly assigned. I did like that it was 83 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:41,160 all randoms. That way, they can game the pairings to like try to 84 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:45,319 target certain people. Yeah, but it's almost always randomly assigned. I think 85 00:07:45,319 --> 00:07:51,720 it's a rare thing if it's not randomly assigned, So I don't. I 86 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,240 found it kind of strange that they were so like, oh no, what's 87 00:07:55,279 --> 00:08:01,240 gonna happen here? It's random? Yeah? Oh no. I I noticed 88 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:05,279 this at this point in time, and I then noticed it for the rest 89 00:08:05,319 --> 00:08:09,439 of the episode. Ed has his hair pulled back except for two strands in 90 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:15,959 the front that are tiny little braids. Yes, I noticed that. Also, 91 00:08:16,199 --> 00:08:24,040 Why why? Because oh my god? But why it looks so bad? 92 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:31,039 It looks insane. I couldn't. I couldn't look away from it. 93 00:08:31,039 --> 00:08:35,679 It drum me nuts. Maybe maybe he's a Jodan fan and he's really into 94 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:41,720 like the bad haircuts and styles, the bad haircuts. Yes, Jacquelin says, 95 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:46,759 it's chaos. That's why, I mean, it is chaos, all 96 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:54,399 right. They also we see TJ pull every single pair and he spends like 97 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:58,000 a solid ten seconds on each one of them. This is another scene that 98 00:08:58,039 --> 00:09:03,279 could have been real quick like, what, this episode didn't need to be 99 00:09:03,279 --> 00:09:07,360 an hour and a half. Nope, could easily been an hour yep I 100 00:09:07,159 --> 00:09:15,720 enjoyed. Yeah, but in previous like in past seasons and past episodes, 101 00:09:16,039 --> 00:09:18,960 we see all the pairs, but I don't need to see them spend extra 102 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,960 time on every single person, Like, yeah, I don't need that. 103 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,879 I don't need it at all. I I kind of enjoy enjoyed this season. 104 00:09:26,879 --> 00:09:30,960 I enjoyed it in USA one when they would get like switched up every 105 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,279 round and like they'd have the machine and you did read out the new pairs, 106 00:09:33,919 --> 00:09:37,480 like just something about hearing who it is. I think it's sick. 107 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:41,120 And that's all about the hour and a half episodes. That's that's what he's 108 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:45,799 saying. He likes the ninety minute episodes. I like the sixty minute episodes. 109 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,679 But I do think I'm the highest on the season I've I've enjoyed this 110 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:56,360 season so far. You're insane. I have like bits and pieces of this 111 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:03,200 episode or this season. All Right, So we are onto the actual meat 112 00:10:03,279 --> 00:10:07,080 of the challenge. Osaf and Michelle go first, which is unfortunate for them 113 00:10:07,519 --> 00:10:13,240 because they do not do very well. No, uh, Corey and Raven 114 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,600 go next, and he's so tall that he's able to just like reach an 115 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:22,320 arm out and drop these things on the pillars. Kieran inza Azara, who 116 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:26,519 everybody thought we're going to do really well, do not do well at all. 117 00:10:26,639 --> 00:10:31,759 Emmanuel and Burna fail absolutely miserably. And then after those four teams go 118 00:10:31,879 --> 00:10:35,320 through, they finally start picking up and like speeding through the rest of them. 119 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:39,639 Yeah, just montage through it, yep. But yet again, they 120 00:10:39,639 --> 00:10:43,480 spent a lot of time on each one of them, which I mean isn't 121 00:10:43,759 --> 00:10:50,519 horrible. But when they were leading into it, they showed the first like 122 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:56,360 half a second of the semi coming onto the track and the propellers starting to 123 00:10:56,399 --> 00:11:00,399 turn. They showed that same thing, the same clip, but for different 124 00:11:00,399 --> 00:11:07,000 angles, like five times in a row. Why we've destroyed Carlin's enjoyment in 125 00:11:07,039 --> 00:11:11,720 this show. She became part of the podcast, and now she's looking at 126 00:11:11,799 --> 00:11:15,600 it like judgmentally, and now she's like, I fucking hate all this. 127 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:20,759 I think that started when I started listening to the podcast. It's probably it. 128 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:26,240 We are the most hateful challenge podcasts on the internet. Yeah, you 129 00:11:26,279 --> 00:11:33,399 know, it happens. We still have fun with it, so we get 130 00:11:33,399 --> 00:11:35,840 through. We finally get through all the pairs, but then they don't show 131 00:11:35,879 --> 00:11:41,240 the actual scores for anybody at the ends of any of the runs or at 132 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:45,919 the end of all of it, which I was really bummed about. I 133 00:11:45,919 --> 00:11:48,639 wanted to see how people actually did, because there were some people who scored, 134 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:54,919 like put multiple rings on pillars or put multiple rings in the five point 135 00:11:54,039 --> 00:11:58,279 zone, and we didn't see any of that. They just popped up ten 136 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:03,039 points or five points. They give the multiple Yeah, who was it? 137 00:12:03,039 --> 00:12:07,840 It was? Was it Kylon? And I don't know who his partner was. 138 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,639 I don't remember, but like, there's would have been interesting because he 139 00:12:09,759 --> 00:12:15,519 grabbed like all the rings and then didn't get him on the post and then 140 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,399 she's like there's no more rings, like I can't do it. Yeah. 141 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,320 Yeah, And there was someone who dropped like five or six of them in 142 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:26,360 the very last yellow zone. Yeah, and it looked like most of them 143 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:31,320 landed in it, but it wasn't really clear like Corey it rave it. 144 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:35,399 Corey put like four or five on one pillar at a time. Yeah, 145 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:39,559 but it only showed ten points. It's just it's it. I was I 146 00:12:39,639 --> 00:12:46,559 was severely annoyed by that They don't want you racking up who got what points 147 00:12:46,639 --> 00:12:48,639 so you could call them out for bad editing. Yeah, but it's just 148 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:52,559 it's unfortunate because like in old seasons they used to do that, and I 149 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,600 know that it's been complained about a few times on this podcast just over the 150 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,879 course of the last few years, but it it doesn't make any sense to 151 00:12:58,919 --> 00:13:03,000 me. It's more enjoyable for the viewer to be able to see what everyone's 152 00:13:03,039 --> 00:13:05,639 doing, Yeah, to see what they're all at and then be like, 153 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:07,559 oh, it's the last team, like how are they going to do? 154 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,840 Or these two teams tied for first place or tied for last place, like 155 00:13:11,879 --> 00:13:20,679 what happens there. It's just it's unfortunate. It's terrible. Yep, I 156 00:13:20,759 --> 00:13:24,919 just got a meeting notification saying you have challenge shaping in half an hour because 157 00:13:24,919 --> 00:13:28,799 I had it for the wrong time. Yeah, you did well, it's 158 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:33,240 going to be eventually the right time, which we haven't really said when Tim 159 00:13:33,279 --> 00:13:39,720 comes back. We're moving to Thursdays at eight, so yeah, and that'll 160 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:46,559 be the official time. So ultimately Raven and Corey win and then TJ throws 161 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:50,679 the curveball at them of guess what, guys, you get to pick who's 162 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:54,440 going in right now. I need you to be the name of a man 163 00:13:54,519 --> 00:14:01,159 who's going into elimination, which I enjoyed. I enjoyed. I enjoyed. 164 00:14:01,159 --> 00:14:03,600 They had no chance to politic like he literally is like, okay, come 165 00:14:03,639 --> 00:14:07,519 up here in front of everybody, like, come up, stand next to 166 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:11,039 me. So there was no even like talking to anybody else. It literally 167 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:15,759 it was just like there's no politicking, there's no yea, beg you, 168 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:20,159 there's no making deals. It's you got to come up off the top of 169 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,559 your head right now. Ye. I love when they do shit like that. 170 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:28,399 It's great. It causes a lot of chaos in the house. It's 171 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:35,559 fantastic. That was great. So while there, while Corey and Raven are 172 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:41,919 having their little talk, we get another confessional from us Off saying, I'm 173 00:14:41,919 --> 00:14:45,480 feeling pretty good about this one. Corey's like one of my best friends or 174 00:14:45,519 --> 00:14:48,360 I'm one of his best friends in the house, Like we've got a real 175 00:14:48,399 --> 00:14:50,679 good connection. I don't think he's gonna pick me. I'm I'm sitting pretty 176 00:14:50,679 --> 00:15:00,080 good. YEA foreshadowing right, because they had it showed them like talk and 177 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:05,279 earlier in the episode too, stuff good of friends they were and all the 178 00:15:07,399 --> 00:15:15,159 how much they've bonded since the show started yep. And then Corey picks well 179 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:20,679 not Corey, Corey and Raven, but Corey says it, they pick asif 180 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:31,080 Yeah, and he loses its poor sport. Yeah, we get, we 181 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:37,840 get it, we get kind of suddenly, Zach's antis off. Have I 182 00:15:37,879 --> 00:15:45,039 ever been pro as? I don't know if you've been pro but I don't 183 00:15:45,039 --> 00:15:56,480 know if you've ever been anti before? Yeah? Yeah? Uh. Backing 184 00:15:56,559 --> 00:16:00,159 up real quick, when they're trying to go over people who to throw in 185 00:16:00,279 --> 00:16:04,120 and Raven keeps bringing people up with Corey's like, no, I can't say 186 00:16:04,159 --> 00:16:07,960 their name. I can't say their name, and she keeps asking like, 187 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:11,120 well, whose sign are you on? Who are you playing for? And 188 00:16:11,159 --> 00:16:15,279 I'm like, Raven, of all people, you're the one who went running 189 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:19,480 to somebody a couple episodes ago, You're the one who's trying to say UK 190 00:16:19,679 --> 00:16:25,320 guy. Because Corey immediately leads off with I should call Kieren down there, 191 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:27,799 and I completely agreed with him, Like that was Karen at that point in 192 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,519 time in the game. Karen is one of the best, if not the 193 00:16:30,559 --> 00:16:37,679 best, guy in that house. Yeah, And because this is a guy's 194 00:16:37,759 --> 00:16:41,799 day. She should have just let him pick him. Yeah, it's just 195 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:47,200 interesting of her reaction. I'm like, well, which side are you playing 196 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,279 for? Blah blah blah. I'm just like, you know, you don't 197 00:16:49,279 --> 00:16:52,720 get to be the one who gets to ask that question. Yeah, they 198 00:16:52,799 --> 00:16:57,600 gets called into question quite a bit this episode. But I think it's different 199 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:03,080 because like Raven is, you know, having this romance or showmance with Kieran. 200 00:17:03,559 --> 00:17:06,319 So I feel like Koish have known he was off the table, and 201 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:10,000 that's like one person from the UK set to shame to protect a should point 202 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:15,839 out quite sham protect like over half of their people. Yeah, but he's 203 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,359 trying to protect people from the UK from the US Alliance, not the UK 204 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:25,799 Alliance. So the I mean, if she didn't want Kieren to go down 205 00:17:25,799 --> 00:17:29,720 there, and if he says three people from the US Alliance, then she 206 00:17:29,759 --> 00:17:33,039 should immediately say, okay, so let's pick someone else from the UK Alliance 207 00:17:33,279 --> 00:17:37,480 and send one of them down. Yeah, I know, send James down 208 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:41,680 there. It was it was one of those things that I ate, Oh 209 00:17:41,759 --> 00:17:45,279 my god, James would have gassed out in this elimination. Yeah, he 210 00:17:45,279 --> 00:17:52,799 would have. That would have been great to see aid Corey got a lot 211 00:17:52,799 --> 00:17:56,119 of heat this episode when he was not the only one that made this decision. 212 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:03,079 Yeah, like Raven just stood there and let him take all this heat 213 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:07,359 this entire episode. She chimed in once because, yeah, we see a 214 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:11,279 little bit of the not necessarily breaking the fourth wall, but we see a 215 00:18:11,319 --> 00:18:15,359 little bit behind the curtain before they get on the buses to go back to 216 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:21,079 the house. And as If just losing it on Corey. Yeah, just 217 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:22,400 like, oh, I thought we were best friends and he's like, I 218 00:18:22,519 --> 00:18:26,119 just met you two weeks ago. Yeah, I do feel like that is 219 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:30,200 Corey sort of backing off. I mean I do too, But at the 220 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,519 same time, like as If, I mean, if you compare your relationship 221 00:18:33,519 --> 00:18:37,279 with Corey to quite a few other people in this house, Like how do 222 00:18:37,319 --> 00:18:41,640 you think that you were his best friend in this house? Like Hueye only 223 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,160 left like two days ago. We'll get there, but yeah, it was 224 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,279 it was odd. I'm not a huge fan of os If. I think 225 00:18:48,279 --> 00:18:52,400 he talks too much. I was really looking forward to him leaving this episode, 226 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:56,240 and spoilers he didn't. I don't have a problem with them. I 227 00:18:56,240 --> 00:19:00,000 don't really like Corey for some reason. I Corey has grown on me. 228 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:07,920 I like him. But yeah. We also get a few cuts of Michelle 229 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:12,079 talking about how she's now pissed off at Corey and really worried because TJ didn't 230 00:19:12,079 --> 00:19:18,680 say anything about whether partners have to go in, which I mean is a 231 00:19:18,799 --> 00:19:22,599 valid worry. But at the same time, like, I don't know, 232 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:26,240 how do you guys feel about it? I feel like it's a valid worry 233 00:19:26,279 --> 00:19:29,160 because we're in chaos right now, could be anything. Yeah, I guess 234 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:34,359 that's true. You never relaxed. Yeah, I thought some weird thing in 235 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:42,640 go ahead sick. I mean he just said that she made a valid point. 236 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,079 Yeah, not just grad with you. Well, I think you know, 237 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,880 like anytime you're partnered up with someone that's going into elimination, you have 238 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:56,279 a very valid concern that it could be a team elimination. Yeah. To 239 00:19:56,359 --> 00:20:00,680 Corey's point later on, though, I completely understand how he and Raven when 240 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,640 they were talking, how they would have just made this decision without thinking about 241 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:08,599 the fact that a partner would also potentially have to go in because TJ said 242 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:14,359 pick a guy. So, I mean, they're all new enough player. 243 00:20:14,599 --> 00:20:18,599 I think I think this would have sat differently with me if this were a 244 00:20:18,599 --> 00:20:21,359 bunch of if there were a bunch of vets in this team, in this 245 00:20:22,319 --> 00:20:26,440 in this house, if it were all of the players that we've seen before, 246 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:30,319 who know what this means, and who who have played this game before, 247 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,240 I think they would have been a little bit They would have voted a 248 00:20:32,279 --> 00:20:37,519 little bit differently. But everybody's played before. They're just not that great at 249 00:20:37,559 --> 00:20:45,720 it. There's a little rookie's sure, but whatever, it doesn't ultimately it 250 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,960 doesn't end up really mattering. So then we are back of the house and 251 00:20:51,039 --> 00:21:00,680 we go to Club Nights. My first two things on here is Big Tea 252 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:04,440 got Ass, because they've got a few scenes of her, and I looked 253 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:15,359 at it. When oh, Big Tea got Ass, I'm gonna isolate that 254 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:19,640 put that on the soundboard. I mean it's true, especially when Tim comes 255 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:26,599 back. And then also I will be amazed if you guys didn't catch this, 256 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,200 But they pan over at Melissa at one point in time and her boob 257 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:34,440 is almost entirely out. Oh I missed it. How am I catching? 258 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,000 This is a second episode in a row that I have caught this ship and 259 00:21:37,039 --> 00:21:44,240 you guys aren't. I was watching it work. I couldn't fully concentrate on 260 00:21:44,319 --> 00:21:48,680 it. I had on my phone down next to my computer basically playing it, 261 00:21:48,839 --> 00:21:52,400 so I don't know. I was like, oh great, it's a 262 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,640 club night, and I stopped paying attention. Probably, yeah, except for 263 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:06,440 when Corey starts crying like a little bit. Yeah I missed the Melissa see. 264 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,279 I mean they're online, you can just look them up. It's true. 265 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:15,920 We also see the start of the Harassio Nourice relationship, though they don't 266 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:22,000 know it's a start yet. Anyway, they're still at the club and Michelle 267 00:22:22,039 --> 00:22:25,759 is freaking out on Corey, talking about how how could you not think about 268 00:22:25,759 --> 00:22:29,000 this? And how can you not think that you know, I might also 269 00:22:29,079 --> 00:22:33,200 be up for elimination because you threw him in and blah blah blah blah blah, 270 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,680 and Corey is upset because he doesn't want her to think that that was 271 00:22:36,759 --> 00:22:41,319 part of his decision whatever. And then we hear we're back at the house. 272 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,519 I think we're back at the house. Yeah, we're back at the 273 00:22:44,519 --> 00:22:47,480 house. Everybody's talking about various different things, what's going to happen the next 274 00:22:47,559 --> 00:22:55,319 day, And Kieran says, when somebody mentions Jordan Kieren goes, who's Jordan? 275 00:22:56,599 --> 00:23:00,279 It's like, bro, watch the show you're on? Yeah, like 276 00:23:00,559 --> 00:23:06,759 it. I mean, there are a few players that you should know who 277 00:23:06,799 --> 00:23:11,519 they are, right, what, Like you gotta know Johnny Bana's CT Jordan, 278 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:18,880 Carl Maria, Emily Schrump, Paula Camilla, Like there there are some 279 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,039 players that you need to know who these people are. Yeah, wes, 280 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,799 So to even think that someone would come onto this show and sit there and 281 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:33,279 go, oh, even if you just google the challenge, Jordan's gonna pop 282 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:37,759 up like within the first couple of searches. So the fact that you know 283 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:42,559 nothing about the show is embarrassing. Yes, yes it is, but especially 284 00:23:42,599 --> 00:23:47,000 if it's your second season. This is not the first person to not know 285 00:23:47,039 --> 00:23:53,519 anything about this game. So yeah, well, so now we are onto 286 00:23:55,279 --> 00:24:03,759 deliberation. Oh that wasn't ready on your phone over there? I was googling 287 00:24:03,839 --> 00:24:10,400 the challenge to see if Jordan would pop up. All right, So we're 288 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:15,000 in deliberation and asof starts it off by immediately calling Corey a liar. Yeah 289 00:24:15,079 --> 00:24:19,640 he does. I can't believe I'm the only one on this side of the 290 00:24:19,759 --> 00:24:25,720 argument. I don't like Corey, and I'm just like yeah, Asof bitch 291 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,519 chew him up and nobody else was the care No, I like Corey, 292 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:37,279 I feel like I don't like af Yeah, I just I feel like Asf 293 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:44,400 is just being emotional. But this is when when Raven finally, finally, 294 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,519 fucking says something and says that it was a mutual agreement. Like, just 295 00:24:47,559 --> 00:24:48,559 because Corey is the one who said it, doesn't mean that he was the 296 00:24:48,559 --> 00:24:56,000 only one who made the decision. Now, I will say, Asof does 297 00:24:56,039 --> 00:25:00,599 make the same mistake that fucking Chauncey did when you start asking people. God, 298 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,599 yeah, in the deliberation, it's it's always good to turn out bad, 299 00:25:04,039 --> 00:25:07,200 don't do it. Yeah, I was cracking up. I mean people 300 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:11,519 were a little bit more like, yeah, people tried to beat around the 301 00:25:11,559 --> 00:25:14,440 bush a little bit more. But yeah, it was the same general thing. 302 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:22,240 Jesus whatever. I'm still I'm still confused as to why he thinks that 303 00:25:22,319 --> 00:25:27,559 Corey is one of his best friends. But who knows. Maybe they just 304 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:33,720 misinterpreted their friendship, that's all. Maybe before I've thought I was like good 305 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,480 friends with somebody and then that turns out they're like, no, I don't 306 00:25:37,519 --> 00:25:40,960 even like you, and I'm like, oh, I feel I feel like 307 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:48,200 friends then therapy. That's how I feel like. Asof is one of those 308 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:52,079 people that anytime they meet someone, I feel like off someone that like whenever 309 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,480 they meet someone and like, have you know a couple of good days of 310 00:25:55,519 --> 00:25:57,559 conversation, hanging out, like don't fight, He's like, oh, this 311 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,759 is my best friend. Now if I feels like most of the house is 312 00:26:00,759 --> 00:26:08,279 his best friend, yeah, probably, yeah, but I feel like those 313 00:26:08,279 --> 00:26:12,079 are good people to have in the world. Maybe not on the challenge, 314 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:22,559 but yeah, who knows, where are we in my notes? We are? 315 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:27,480 Oh uh so they also, I think Michelle it was either Michelle or 316 00:26:27,599 --> 00:26:30,880 I don't know. One of the girls brings up that they need to start 317 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,720 speculating whether the female partner is going to go down with the male partner into 318 00:26:33,759 --> 00:26:38,519 the sand, and some people are very for it, and other people are 319 00:26:38,599 --> 00:26:42,079 very like, well, he only said male, so why are we even 320 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:48,839 attempting to think about it. I can see both sides of the argument, 321 00:26:48,319 --> 00:26:52,759 but it was a dead giveaway that the women were not going to be competing 322 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:56,000 when they all got dressed to go to the elimination and everybody was in street 323 00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:00,359 clothes except for the two guys. Yeah, but as TJ always says, 324 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:07,279 I lied. Yeah, I can't trust a liar. This is chaos I'm 325 00:27:07,319 --> 00:27:10,039 trying to think. I mean, other than the Zach and Amanda going in 326 00:27:11,039 --> 00:27:15,720 because Zach put them in. I feel like there's only been one other time 327 00:27:15,799 --> 00:27:19,839 where someone has gone in where they've been wearing street clothes and ended up having 328 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:25,319 to change. I feel like we had a good chance of seeing that happen 329 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:32,480 tonight though if the draw went different. Oh my god, yes, yeah, 330 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,160 I feel like that in that kind of scenario. Yes, I agree 331 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:41,079 with that, but we're not quite there, all right. So then they 332 00:27:41,319 --> 00:27:45,440 start going around. Oh, they ask ausof who he wants, and he 333 00:27:45,519 --> 00:27:48,680 says, well, I want to go against the fastest and smartest person here, 334 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,559 So Karen, I think you should come down with me. And my 335 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,279 immediate thought was, why the fuck are you asking him if he should go 336 00:27:56,319 --> 00:28:00,799 down with you? Like he's gonna say no, of course he's gonna say 337 00:28:00,839 --> 00:28:03,880 that, what are you doing. I also didn't realize that they were going 338 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,359 to immediately start voting. Yeah, I was gonna say, yeah, they 339 00:28:07,839 --> 00:28:11,519 they're going to vote. He's got to throw it out there, because then 340 00:28:11,519 --> 00:28:15,759 that's a perfect excuse for everybody to just be like, well, suff said 341 00:28:15,799 --> 00:28:19,359 his name, so I'm just gonna agree with him and not the personal Keran. 342 00:28:21,279 --> 00:28:25,519 Yep, an easy way out. It is. It is an easy 343 00:28:25,519 --> 00:28:30,279 way out. But it was still I found it very strange that he called 344 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,279 him out like that. It made more sense once we realized that they were 345 00:28:33,319 --> 00:28:38,440 actually immediately voting, and Emmanuel's name gets thrown into the mix as well, 346 00:28:40,519 --> 00:28:42,039 which he does not look super happy about, and I just love it. 347 00:28:42,079 --> 00:28:48,640 He looks around like, guys, what the fuck? Yep. But ultimately 348 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,079 Karen is voted in and he votes for himself because by that point in time, 349 00:28:52,119 --> 00:28:53,240 there are like eight votes for him, and I think like four for 350 00:28:53,279 --> 00:28:59,480 a manual. So why Ford just everybody can stop, I'll just I'll go 351 00:28:59,559 --> 00:29:07,920 in. Yeah, which I'm kind of disappointed throughout this whole thing because if 352 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:14,240 Emmanuel would have been voted in, we could have had versus bizarro world Jordan. 353 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,240 I was thinking the same thing when his name initially got put in. 354 00:29:18,319 --> 00:29:25,200 It's like, yes, we're gonna see it, finally, finally gonna meet 355 00:29:26,519 --> 00:29:37,400 ummm yeah, so now we are onto elimination. I'd like to point out 356 00:29:37,559 --> 00:29:41,000 this is what made me happy. I checked the time stamp while I was 357 00:29:41,039 --> 00:29:45,799 watching it. One hour in we were into elimination. Yeah, so I'm 358 00:29:45,839 --> 00:29:48,359 like, this is gonna be half an hour of elimination. This is great. 359 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,119 There were a lot of commercials, so it was a lot of commercials, 360 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,319 all right. So they walked down into the sand and you have just 361 00:29:56,359 --> 00:30:00,359 the two guys who are dressed ready for elimination. Everybody else goes up by 362 00:30:00,359 --> 00:30:07,599 themselves. No one claps when TJ says the Corey and Raven won. That 363 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:14,880 did crack me up, Yeah, until Corey said something like what no applause, 364 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,720 And then TJ turns to the guys and asks, you know, how 365 00:30:19,759 --> 00:30:22,799 does it feel to be down here? And ask hearing in first, and 366 00:30:22,839 --> 00:30:26,440 then asks awesome, how he feels to be down here? And awesome, 367 00:30:27,759 --> 00:30:30,599 this is one of the reasons why I don't like it. But he blows 368 00:30:30,599 --> 00:30:33,519 a bunch of smoke up TJ's ass about how, oh, I'm just lucky 369 00:30:33,519 --> 00:30:36,440 to be here. I'm always thinking about the challenge when I'm not here, 370 00:30:36,559 --> 00:30:38,839 and I'm thinking about my kid when i'm here, and I'm just happy to 371 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,720 be here, and I'm happy to have this chance and blows a bunch of 372 00:30:41,839 --> 00:30:45,559 a bunch of smoke up his ass and doesn't mention a single fucking word about 373 00:30:45,559 --> 00:30:51,240 how he's pissed off at Corey for voting him down there. Yeah like you 374 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,400 well agree. I was like, bro, come on, you gotta bring 375 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,240 that smoke if you if you're gonna you're gonna act that way in the house, 376 00:30:57,319 --> 00:31:02,160 you get at own it. Yeah, say that ship to TJ too. 377 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:06,839 Otherwise you just look like a dumbass, right like he calls a snake, 378 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:11,319 Like, no, that is a snake move, Like TJ? Can 379 00:31:11,319 --> 00:31:15,079 I can Corey come in instead? Can we can we have an elimination? 380 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,839 What were you gonna say, Zach Oh? I justin absolutely about keeping that 381 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:29,480 same energy when you go into the elimination. Yeah, yeah, well this 382 00:31:29,559 --> 00:31:33,680 is this is the drum roll of TJ telling them, well, to be 383 00:31:33,759 --> 00:31:41,920 the best, you gotta beat the best, and everybody starts going nuts and 384 00:31:41,119 --> 00:31:47,599 Jordan walks out and they have a great This is where the editing. I 385 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:52,599 was happy with the editing. They have a great highlight reel. Excellent excellent 386 00:31:52,680 --> 00:32:00,400 highlight reel. Oh showed his last win on Global Championship, him and Kaz 387 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:07,119 holding that trophy up and stuff. No it was it was fun. I 388 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,680 it got me so hyped. I was so happy to see him. TJ 389 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:15,519 just reading off like all of his stats. Yeah, nine seasons, five 390 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:22,240 finals, four titles, sorry, six finals, four titles, and that 391 00:32:22,319 --> 00:32:30,599 includes being the first Challenge world champion. Yep, Kyland, Zach, I'm 392 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:35,680 sure this is something that you will love. Kyland says that he is the 393 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,640 best competitor in the history of the Challenge. TJ calls him one of the 394 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:47,119 goats, no questions. What was I said? No question? He followed 395 00:32:47,119 --> 00:32:51,200 it up with that one of the goats, no questions. Yeah, and 396 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,880 there. I mean, it's just it's a bunch of different little snippets from 397 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:59,720 all these different people who are like, Jordan is fucking good at this game, 398 00:33:00,359 --> 00:33:02,559 Like Jordan comes to play, was it, Kylon then likes I saw 399 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:08,440 him played tiger Tug of War with one hand, one hand. Yeah, 400 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:13,440 God, that episode was great. Yeah, Jordan playing Tug of War against 401 00:33:13,559 --> 00:33:20,319 Josh and just beaten the piss out of him. Well, oh, we're 402 00:33:20,359 --> 00:33:27,880 gonna see more of Jordan beating the piss out of somebody. Yeah. Oh, 403 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,000 it was lovely to see him come in, and it just it reminded 404 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,640 me like Oh, yeah, this is what it's like to have the real 405 00:33:32,759 --> 00:33:37,640 challengers here, to see the champs, to see people who know what they're 406 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:42,480 doing. Oh, it's fantastic. In two weeks, I'm assuming, uh 407 00:33:42,759 --> 00:33:50,039 CT you'll be there. Yeah. So we pan back to TJ and after 408 00:33:50,119 --> 00:33:53,119 welcoming Jordan in, he goes, Okay, if you win this elimination, 409 00:33:53,839 --> 00:33:58,759 you win ten thousand dollars out of their prize pot. Yeah, and they 410 00:33:58,759 --> 00:34:02,599 are not happy. No, no one is happy to see that. This 411 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,759 is about what I assumed was going to happen, though, and I'm very 412 00:34:05,759 --> 00:34:08,199 excited for it. Yeah. We talked about them potentially getting money, and 413 00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:13,280 I don't remember if it was ever like officially said on the podcast or not. 414 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,639 Yeah, I don't know, but this is it adds some strategicy to 415 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:22,559 it because now it's not only well we have to get we have to throw 416 00:34:22,599 --> 00:34:25,079 people in who we don't want. We now also have to throw people in 417 00:34:25,159 --> 00:34:29,960 we think can win, because if we just throw someone we want to send 418 00:34:30,039 --> 00:34:36,719 home, they may end up losing US ten thousand dollars. Yeah, which 419 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:42,440 is interesting because they threw Kiaren down there, and yep, you would think 420 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,960 that he'd be able to keep that there. Oh he had, but again 421 00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:50,159 Kieren had no idea what he was up against. No, he did not. 422 00:34:50,599 --> 00:34:54,280 It was like the season where Derek came back as one of the mercenaries 423 00:34:54,320 --> 00:35:01,000 and was up against what's his face, Jos and Josh. Josh is looking 424 00:35:01,039 --> 00:35:06,000 at him like what this tiny little dude like he's not to new ship and 425 00:35:06,039 --> 00:35:14,079 he just got his ship rocked. That episode. Oh see, so good, 426 00:35:14,559 --> 00:35:17,320 already so excited, this whole child, this whole episode could have just 427 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:24,400 been this elimination. I've been so happy. Well, it's so funny because, 428 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:30,079 like any regular season, we're happy to see Jordan, like Jordan's here, 429 00:35:30,119 --> 00:35:34,599 that's great. But then the whole cast is like is like that, 430 00:35:35,079 --> 00:35:37,559 and we're just sort of like okay, and then we watch I'm like, 431 00:35:37,599 --> 00:35:43,920 all right, this one, it's just like, oh, the motherfucker Pope 432 00:35:44,039 --> 00:35:47,559 just walked in, Like what the fuck God? And for him to be 433 00:35:47,599 --> 00:35:57,599 the first mercenary to come in, I mean, I I hate that. 434 00:35:57,599 --> 00:35:59,760 I'm gonna say this and I've said this before. Johnny knows how to play 435 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:04,679 this game. He does, but Johnny's always been shit at eliminations. To 436 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:09,280 see Jordan walk into that elimination ring, was just something else because, like 437 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,840 it's been talked about multiple time on this podcast. We've talked about it just 438 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,119 in general, you can never count Jordan out. And the man only has 439 00:36:17,199 --> 00:36:22,920 one full hand, and you can never count him out, doesn't matter the 440 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,360 elimination. You're like, oh, if Jordan's in the elimination, he's probably 441 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:29,559 gonna win. It'll be a fluke if he gets at home. Yep. 442 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,960 Yeah, that's the way you have to approach every single time. The only 443 00:36:32,039 --> 00:36:36,679 time, the only time that I was truly, truly, truly worried about 444 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:43,119 him was this TJ says that the draw is back and we get a flashback 445 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,400 to when Jordan flips all four cards to get down into the elimination with Johnny. 446 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,360 That was the only time I was worried about it because you see this 447 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:55,480 giant wall of sheet rock and you know what the elimination is going to be, 448 00:36:55,639 --> 00:37:00,719 and he cannot trying to punch through that wall of rock to be able 449 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,440 to climb a wall of sheet rock when you only have one hand. Ye, 450 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,480 it was that one was that was heartbreaking. Yeah, and you still 451 00:37:08,519 --> 00:37:13,760 don't count him out. He still made it up like half that wall. 452 00:37:14,679 --> 00:37:19,960 Yeah, it was. It also it was already epic, but if he 453 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:25,039 had beat Johnny and that that would have been like greatest, would have been 454 00:37:25,079 --> 00:37:29,239 the greatest move of all time, fucking flipping over all the cards and going 455 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:34,039 out and just fucking rocking that elimination. And that's when he was still like 456 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,239 young and hungry, and I mean he's always been hungry, but young and 457 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:44,559 an asshole. Yeah, he's always been an asshole. Young young destroyed by 458 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:53,119 bananas destroyed. He was not destroyed. No, that was that was a 459 00:37:53,159 --> 00:37:58,400 great one though. Yeah, so they they had in the draw. What's 460 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,119 in the draw? The draw is there's one for Kieran, there's one for 461 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:07,159 us off, and there's one that's a big, old giant question mark to 462 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:12,719 us because TJ doesn't actually tell us what it is. What is your speculation 463 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,960 on what it is? I don't know. I'm wondering if it becomes like 464 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:20,719 a three way, three way elimination. So my speculation was that the third 465 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,760 one has Jordan's name on it, and if he pulls his own, he 466 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:27,960 can choose any guy in the game to go against except whoever won immunity. 467 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:35,679 That that was my thought as well. It's also possible, I I because 468 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:38,639 part of the reason that was my thought as well, was because when you're 469 00:38:38,639 --> 00:38:43,119 looking at all the challengers that are standing up on that on the platform above 470 00:38:43,119 --> 00:38:47,440 there, the two that one that day are standing up slightly higher. So 471 00:38:47,559 --> 00:38:51,639 it was it'd be a real easy like you can pick from anybody on that 472 00:38:51,679 --> 00:38:57,000 platform except for those two. Oh what if it even becomes anybody? Oh 473 00:38:57,079 --> 00:39:01,599 god better, even better? I mean they did that what last season where 474 00:39:01,599 --> 00:39:07,280 they could pick including the people who won. That was a fun twist. 475 00:39:08,599 --> 00:39:13,639 Yeah, I'm hoping. I really hope that we actually get to see what 476 00:39:13,679 --> 00:39:19,559 that third one is. Yeah, I hope that it's not like the in 477 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:23,719 past seasons where they've come to a stalemate on who's going to be chosen and 478 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:28,599 TJ gives them a threat and then they somebody backs off and then we never 479 00:39:28,679 --> 00:39:34,079 end up seeing what's going to happen if there's a stalemate. No, Yeah, 480 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,559 I'm hoping we'll get I want to see it. I want to see 481 00:39:36,599 --> 00:39:42,960 it. It's chaos, chaos everywhere. Ye. So Jordan goes in there 482 00:39:43,039 --> 00:39:46,800 and pulls the pulls out one of them and lo behold, he pulls Kieran's 483 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:52,920 name. Awesome is off, free and clear, yep. But the good 484 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:57,880 thing is that means more chaos at the house. Yes, episode, so 485 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,199 we'll see. Yeah, I'm sure they going to be all kinds of fallout 486 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:06,599 between him and Corey. M all right. So the game is called King 487 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,760 of the Hill. There are two ramps on either side of the arena, 488 00:40:12,519 --> 00:40:15,639 and each ramp at the top has at the top and the two sides has 489 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:21,159 three lights, and under each light there's a button. The lights will turn 490 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,639 on and both people have to run to the light that's on and try to 491 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:27,920 hit the button that's underneath it to turn the light off. And the moment 492 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,760 that the light goes off, another light will go on. I thought it 493 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:36,079 was going to be immediate, but it wasn't. Some of them they had 494 00:40:36,079 --> 00:40:39,280 a little bit of a delay when the next light would come on. I 495 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,800 thought it was for sure going to be On the other sides, they were 496 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,039 running back and forth. Yeah, that was sometimes it's the same side. 497 00:40:46,039 --> 00:40:52,599 I found that a little strange. So those are the perfect participants for this 498 00:40:52,639 --> 00:40:55,840 one. Yes, it was so excited. It was good. Yeah. 499 00:40:55,880 --> 00:41:00,199 So whoever hits the button gets the point the most points is in one minute 500 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:05,920 wins the round. And it's the best two out of three. Again, 501 00:41:06,039 --> 00:41:09,400 if Jordan wins, he takes home ten k and sends Kieren home, And 502 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:13,480 if Kieren wins, he saves the ten k and goes back to the house. 503 00:41:15,159 --> 00:41:17,880 So, as TJ says, Kerring Kieren is playing for the whole house 504 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:30,599 because everybody is losing if Karen loses. We see their pre competition confessionals and 505 00:41:30,679 --> 00:41:35,199 Kieran calls Jordan a geezer. It's like, you you really don't know who 506 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,239 this is, do you? You don't know you're talking. He also says 507 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:45,920 that he's gonna run right through Jordan, like, oh, buddy, shouldn't 508 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,920 say some of this stuff. Should not say some of this stuff? Yep, 509 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,039 all right. So yeah, but we have the three rounds. First 510 00:41:53,119 --> 00:41:59,239 round, Jordan's kind of taking it easy on Kieran, which I mean, 511 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,000 he's kind of going toe and toe. They end up. I think Karen 512 00:42:02,039 --> 00:42:06,679 has like one or two points more than Jordan does. I didn't know what 513 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,079 was happening. I didn't either. I was getting real worried, and I 514 00:42:10,119 --> 00:42:14,559 was like, is Jordan gassing out? Like this makes no sense? At 515 00:42:14,559 --> 00:42:17,599 one point time at the end of that round, he has like the shoulder 516 00:42:17,639 --> 00:42:22,760 that he dislocated like two or three seasons ago. He's walking away kind of 517 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,760 at a weird angle with the shoulder hanging down. I'm like, did he 518 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,119 did he dislocate his shoulder? Is something wrong? What is happening? I 519 00:42:31,199 --> 00:42:38,039 was really worried. So Karen takes the first round and then the second round 520 00:42:38,039 --> 00:42:45,519 starts and Jordan just stands there for two points. I was like, what 521 00:42:45,559 --> 00:42:51,519 the fuck is he just throwing this? Why is he throwing this? It 522 00:42:51,559 --> 00:42:57,599 was so mad. I was like, sod. My anxiety was through the 523 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,880 roof. I was like, what the fuck is happening? You just showed 524 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:05,519 up. You you're talking all this ship on your confessionals, and you're now 525 00:43:05,559 --> 00:43:08,519 doing that. What are you doing? Oh? And then we get the 526 00:43:08,519 --> 00:43:15,840 greatest confessional ever of Jordan just sitting there going I'm I'm playing mind games with 527 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:20,639 him, like these two points are so that he like these first two points 528 00:43:20,679 --> 00:43:24,440 so so that he thinks that he's in an okay place, and I'm going 529 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:28,559 to show him that this is my arena. Oh my god. And then 530 00:43:28,599 --> 00:43:34,840 he just lets loose and Karen, with his two points without Jordan even trying, 531 00:43:36,079 --> 00:43:43,239 loses in a minute, loses to Jordan Jesus sounds like seven to five. 532 00:43:43,519 --> 00:43:46,800 Oh, it was great. Oh, Jordan's doing that ship too, 533 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,719 where they'll both like scramble up and then Jordan will just stand there in front 534 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,239 of the light. Uh huh, like come on, come on, and 535 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,519 then as as Karen gets close to it, he hits it. Yep, 536 00:43:54,920 --> 00:44:00,400 he's fucking running circles around Kiaren and this one, oh man insane. Both 537 00:44:00,519 --> 00:44:04,920 of the last two rounds. Yea, Oh, it was great. My 538 00:44:05,039 --> 00:44:09,320 anxiety. I was so happy through this entire thing, but my anxiety was 539 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:19,000 going nuts. Yeah, this was definitely like I'm gonna assume neither of you 540 00:44:19,039 --> 00:44:22,039 have probably seen The Last Dance, which is the documentary on Netflix about Michael 541 00:44:22,079 --> 00:44:30,559 Jordan and the Bulls. I thought you were talking about in even if even 542 00:44:30,559 --> 00:44:36,239 if you're not a basketball fan, which I'm really not, but the impressiveness 543 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:42,440 of like those six seasons where the Bulls just destroyed everybody. So if you 544 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:47,000 watch this documentary it's like five episodes long, there is stuff in it where 545 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:52,360 Michael Jordan, it's one of those it's the same thing where it's like he's 546 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,519 so good at the game that you just have to be impressed. There was 547 00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,280 the last season where the Bulls were together, the front office had said, 548 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:06,239 we're dismantling the team after this. So even if you guys win the championship, 549 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:07,760 like you guys like were splitting the team up, they're all going to 550 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:14,800 be traded whatever. And so Michael Jordan would hear that somebody in the front 551 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:19,360 office was interested in this guy on the other team. So Jordan would put 552 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:24,199 a target on him and just embarrass him on the basketball court, just make 553 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:29,840 it look like look like shit. And he would I mean, he's fucking 554 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:30,960 babe Ruth. He would call a shot. He would just be like, 555 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:35,159 Oh, that guy, I'm gonna make him look real stupid today. And 556 00:45:35,199 --> 00:45:37,519 he would totally do it. And it would be the same thing, like 557 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:44,360 he could turn it into overdrive and just do anything he wanted. And that's 558 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:49,239 the same thing we're seeing here, where's just like, yeah, I'm just 559 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:54,079 not even really gonna try that much and still just destroy this person. Yeah, 560 00:45:54,519 --> 00:45:59,960 Jordan definitely found his game when he came to the challenge. Is an 561 00:46:00,079 --> 00:46:05,280 asshole, but it suits him in this game, like it this is the 562 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:10,280 game for him, this whole especially the whole thing, especially this version where 563 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,920 he just gets to come in and be a mercenary, so he doesn't he 564 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,000 doesn't have to politic, he doesn't have to worry about pissing someone off so 565 00:46:16,039 --> 00:46:20,679 they might vote him in. It literally is just oh, I get to 566 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,880 show up and be an asshole to these people, like okay, and he 567 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:28,920 will full on own it and do it. Yep. God, it's great 568 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,440 to watch. It's so great to watch now. I was gonna bring this 569 00:46:31,559 --> 00:46:35,760 up on the post show during the social media, but we could discuss now. 570 00:46:36,119 --> 00:46:40,039 Have you guys seen that there's a lot of controversy around this elimination online? 571 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,920 No, okay, so the story going around from some of the vets, 572 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,800 and I see on both sides. It's first off, this was not 573 00:46:50,679 --> 00:46:54,519 a best of three. Is the best of five? Kieran destroyed Jordan in 574 00:46:54,559 --> 00:46:59,199 the first two, and then Jordan complained to production, which they say is 575 00:46:59,199 --> 00:47:01,920 why you can't see in that second round that we saw, there's kind of 576 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:06,920 like a weird edit where it's like almost like a reset. Apparently that's because 577 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,920 Jordan's stopped it and went to production to complain. After that, Kieren is 578 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:15,960 told he's not allowed to wrestle Jordan anymore. And there's also some of them, 579 00:47:16,039 --> 00:47:20,800 claiming Kieren as well that like we see how Jordan's k have like bodyguarding 580 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,719 some of the lights and like not laying Karen do it to like waste time. 581 00:47:23,079 --> 00:47:27,360 Apparently Kieren tried doing that as well, and Karen Clinton when he did 582 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,599 it, that light would turn off and another one would go on, but 583 00:47:30,679 --> 00:47:37,599 like with Jordan, they would leave the light on for him. Interesting, 584 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:43,679 well, well, it needs to be a little less happy, I know, 585 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,079 same, it takes a little bit of the wind out of my sails. 586 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:51,000 Still happy. I'm gonna pretend like I didn't hear any of it. 587 00:47:57,679 --> 00:48:00,880 But you know, during all of this, I guess Eric, let's finish 588 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:08,679 this first. So ultimately Jordan ends up winning, and which I wonder, 589 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:14,199 like, anyway, we'll put a pause on that Jordan ends up winning. 590 00:48:15,159 --> 00:48:16,800 It makes a lot more sense as to why Kiaran at the end of this 591 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:23,760 is fucking pissed and you can hear him say this is fucking bullshit. Yeah, 592 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:28,559 that makes a little bit more sense. Now you could tell he's in 593 00:48:28,599 --> 00:48:31,760 his post interview that he is. He's at that point where he's so mad 594 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:36,800 that he's crying, which is the worst. It's the worst feeling. I 595 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,880 hate that you get that to that point. It just is terrible. Yeah, 596 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:46,159 yeah, I have in all caps this is what you what happens when 597 00:48:46,159 --> 00:48:51,559 you compete against the champs, which again the wind has been taken out of 598 00:48:51,599 --> 00:48:55,440 my sales act. I'm sorry, but it's a big point of controversy between 599 00:48:55,679 --> 00:49:01,199 fans and cast members right now. I can understand that. But again, 600 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:05,639 like to go back to things that have been said on the show, on 601 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:12,119 the podcast before of this game is never fair, like we all want it 602 00:49:12,159 --> 00:49:17,559 to be fair, but it's never fair. So yeah, whose force wants 603 00:49:17,559 --> 00:49:22,800 to know? How about Emmanuel turning his back? Yeah? So was it 604 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:27,360 about Toy? I don't know, so that it also makes a little bit 605 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,920 more sense for that too. So you know, they say goodbye to Kieren, 606 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:35,159 he walks off, and then TJ turns to Jordan says, you know, 607 00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,400 thanks for coming. This was great. You have anything you want to 608 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:44,239 say? Jordan makes his little speech, which pulled a Wes. Jordan makes 609 00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,960 his a little speech and he's making as he's talking, Emmanuel turns his back 610 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,840 on him, and it's like I don't want to hear you, I don't 611 00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,119 want to listen to you. I don't need to listen to this, which 612 00:49:53,159 --> 00:49:57,039 nobody else does, so it's just this weird. It just makes it look 613 00:49:57,079 --> 00:50:01,599 like a dick. And then when he turns back around, TJ says, 614 00:50:01,599 --> 00:50:05,320 you know, is there anybody else up there that you would have liked to 615 00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:13,360 see something to that effect, and Jordan Emmanuel says that he wishes that he 616 00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,159 would have been able to see, like, been able to compete against Jordan 617 00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:21,199 down the sand, to which Jordan immediately claps back. He's like, you 618 00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,119 could have come down. You could have voted yourself in. You could have 619 00:50:23,159 --> 00:50:25,800 when we got here, when I showed up, you could have said I 620 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:31,159 want to come down and taken their place. Because that's happened. They haven't 621 00:50:31,159 --> 00:50:37,079 always allowed it, but it has happened, so we'll see it. I 622 00:50:37,119 --> 00:50:40,920 called bullshit. I think that Emmanuel was just peacocking to Peacock because he knew 623 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:45,440 he was saying. I think Emmanuel meant it. I think Asof was full 624 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,360 of it when he was like, oh man, like I was wanting to 625 00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:52,760 go against you. Oh yeah, hundred percent. Aesof was definitely peacocking. 626 00:50:53,079 --> 00:51:00,320 But I think Emmanuel was surprised by all this. Asof us off I just 627 00:51:00,679 --> 00:51:06,320 I I feel like they were both doing the os and Emmanuel were both doing 628 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,039 the hold me back, hold me back, like fight at a bar, 629 00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:14,760 so you're you'll sit there pretend like you're gonna fight someone, but only if 630 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,360 there's security in between two of you. I don't I don't think Emmanuel would 631 00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:21,599 ever throw himself in. But I think if he had been down there and 632 00:51:21,599 --> 00:51:23,960 got to go against Joran, I think you would have been legit excited for 633 00:51:24,039 --> 00:51:28,719 the opportunity and you know, to go against him or that I think asof 634 00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:30,960 would have put on a tough faith, but he would have been like crying 635 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:36,960 on the inside. Oh yeah, oh, I agree with that. I'm 636 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:42,119 just saying like it. Emmanuel makes it look makes it sound like he would 637 00:51:42,119 --> 00:51:44,840 have voted himself in, which I think is I don't think he would have 638 00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:51,440 done that. So I had this thought while they were competing, and again 639 00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:55,320 Wynd has been taking out of the sales a little bit, but it still 640 00:51:55,400 --> 00:52:02,000 kind of works since I hadn't had this thought prior to this, since these 641 00:52:02,679 --> 00:52:07,360 competitors are not actually competing against any against any of the champs except for in 642 00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:13,719 these eliminations. Do you guys think that this season is going to fall into 643 00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:20,400 the same kind of category as like Battle to the Stars or what was it, 644 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,760 the Champs versus Stars, the sort of thing, because they're not competing 645 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:30,159 against any of the normal players. I don't know if the season I don't 646 00:52:30,199 --> 00:52:34,159 have the season font to that, but I definitely think for a lot of 647 00:52:34,199 --> 00:52:37,639 people, myself included, if if the winner does not go against a champ 648 00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:42,079 and beat them, I'm gonna think that like, yeah, they're a winner, 649 00:52:42,119 --> 00:52:45,079 but it was a very weak win. Like you know, we've definitely 650 00:52:45,079 --> 00:52:49,079 seen that another show. I'll always have an asterisk next to them. Yeah, 651 00:52:49,119 --> 00:52:51,039 I mean we've seen that a lot of the O shows like Survivor and 652 00:52:51,079 --> 00:52:52,760 Big Brother, where there's some winners you just like, yes, they won, 653 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:57,559 and it's valid. But if you look at like the competition they had 654 00:52:57,599 --> 00:53:00,119 on their season, it was a very low bar company adition. So was 655 00:53:00,119 --> 00:53:04,119 it really that impressive? Yeah, so I guess I should rephrase that. 656 00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,800 Do you think it'll fall into the same category as like USA one where everybody 657 00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:14,920 quit, the eliminator quit the finale, and Sarah won by default. I 658 00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:16,480 don't think we'll see that. I don't think we'll I think it'll fall into 659 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:20,000 that same kind of thing. Yeah, No, I don't think that we'll 660 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,800 see everybody quit, but I'm saying I think it'll fall into that same kind 661 00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:27,440 of category and that Sarah is a champion, but only because everybody else goes. 662 00:53:27,519 --> 00:53:31,320 Yeah, and whoever wins this season agree, I agree. If they 663 00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:36,519 don't go against a champion and win, then they're going to be looked at 664 00:53:36,519 --> 00:53:42,000 with an asterisk next to their name. I think. I think at that 665 00:53:42,079 --> 00:53:45,760 point, whoever wins needs to come back like on season forty or whenever and 666 00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:50,960 like compete in a season with like the Jordan's and the Bananas and the cars, 667 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:52,519 and like, if they hold their own there, then I think, 668 00:53:52,559 --> 00:53:55,079 you know, their respect level will go up. But if they come in 669 00:53:55,119 --> 00:54:00,880 and they're just like thrown out first right away, like okay, so like 670 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:08,239 they're they're a fake champion. Yeah, I don't know. I don't really 671 00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:14,239 care that much, honestly. It's just like you're supposed to have these opinions 672 00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:19,400 wins, who wins, who doesn't, and where it sounds like production's being 673 00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,639 shady this season already, so we'll just be like, I don't know, 674 00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:28,119 production shady every season, I like, but if you're Zack, you don't 675 00:54:28,119 --> 00:54:30,880 think production is shady, I do not, but I will I will say, 676 00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:37,079 like I do think production has to be thinking we have like ten champions 677 00:54:37,119 --> 00:54:39,920 here and if they come in and go, oh to ten, that's gonna 678 00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:52,320 be really bad for our show. Mm hmm. Yeah. So yeah, 679 00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:59,400 all right, that's the end of the episode. We dunt dunt dum yep. 680 00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:05,599 We had to bring the energy down, Zach by telling us how shady 681 00:55:05,639 --> 00:55:13,440 this elimination was. Well, I mean, Therese is one of the most 682 00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:17,159 outspoken people out there defending Jordan's. So if you like Jordan's, you know, 683 00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:20,800 Nouris is your girl, saying that it was all on the up andough. 684 00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:30,000 Mhmm. Interesting. Hey, everybody head every challenge by dot com joined 685 00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:34,159 the Facebook group. You can also join our Patreon. We're for our single 686 00:55:34,199 --> 00:55:40,159 tier five dollars a month gepprecias. After shows sometimes we do meetups we haven't 687 00:55:40,159 --> 00:55:44,800 done in a while and need to do so, I mean, it's it's 688 00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:52,159 winter or it's coming into winter. We have hopefully an easier scheduled for everybody 689 00:55:52,159 --> 00:55:57,199 to deal with, so maybe we'll actually get some things in there. See, 690 00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:00,960 but we also say your name, so we say thank you to Alvin, 691 00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:07,440 Caroline, Christopher, Cindy, Greg, Jamie Joker, Julie Martes, 692 00:56:07,519 --> 00:56:10,920 Patti Rolden, Ryan, Samuel, Sarah, Sarah, Scott, Seth Scheck, 693 00:56:12,119 --> 00:56:27,599 and stand. We appreciate you. No no reviews. Hey, uh, 694 00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:32,800 do you have anything else social media wise act besides besides elimination? I 695 00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:42,760 think that was the only big thing I saw. Uh CT's Divorces is final 696 00:56:43,199 --> 00:56:47,400 and TMZ put it on the their front page and put a really really awful 697 00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:54,440 picture of CT as the photo really bad it was. It was, Yeah, 698 00:56:54,519 --> 00:57:00,119 it was really really really bad, Which I mean, whatever, if 699 00:57:00,159 --> 00:57:01,960 you're not a Challenge fan, then people are gonna think that he's the bad 700 00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:09,199 guy anyway. But whatever. So it's not necessarily social. It's on social 701 00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:15,039 media, but it's not the Challengers social media on our Challenge on our social 702 00:57:15,079 --> 00:57:22,880 media page, on our Facebook page, David Hevelka put a spoilers post from 703 00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:24,719 last night, and he did the right thing. He did spoilers from last 704 00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:29,079 night and dot dot dot whatever. But I was reading through it and he 705 00:57:29,119 --> 00:57:31,559 brought up a good point. So he says, so we're in the chaos 706 00:57:31,599 --> 00:57:36,360 section of the format and Jordan comes in for elimination when so a challenger goes 707 00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:43,199 home and the prize pot loses ten k. Is that the picture hold on? 708 00:57:44,079 --> 00:57:50,840 Yes, horrible picture of CT mountain Man. Yeah, like Grizzly Adams. 709 00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,880 M So it says hypothetically the prize pot would have been five hundred K 710 00:57:55,880 --> 00:58:01,000 if they had successfully won all the team challenges. So now I assume that 711 00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:07,719 at least some of the champions win and the prize and now they're going against 712 00:58:07,719 --> 00:58:13,599 the the challenge the champions that have come in, they're going against them, 713 00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:19,320 and at least some of the challenger the champions win, So they're automatically going 714 00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:23,079 to lose some of the money out of the prize pot. They're never actually 715 00:58:23,119 --> 00:58:31,400 truly competing for five hundred k, like unless unless all of these newbies are 716 00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:35,800 able to win against the challengers, they're never actually competing for five hundred K. 717 00:58:36,079 --> 00:58:38,440 They are always competing for less than that. How do you guys feel 718 00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:42,000 about that? I think it may be, well, we don't know what's 719 00:58:42,039 --> 00:58:45,880 going to happen in the last stage. Maybe they'll be able to earn more 720 00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:47,480 money into the Well. TJ does say that they can earn more money into 721 00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:51,480 the pot, Like he said, that in the initially when we were seeing 722 00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:57,159 all when he was laying out the game. But so they may be able 723 00:58:57,159 --> 00:59:00,239 to get it back up to five hundred and I can't here to does he 724 00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:02,679 ever directly stay there competing for five hundred care? Does he say you didn't 725 00:59:02,719 --> 00:59:06,719 he say, like, you can get it up as high as five hundred 726 00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:12,519 K? Yeah? So up, but up as high as so like five 727 00:59:12,559 --> 00:59:15,719 hundred k. Yeah is the master. So if you win all of the 728 00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:19,320 like the team more eliminations to give the max amount money and then you guys 729 00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,639 clean sweep the champions, then yeah, you can win five hundred K. 730 00:59:22,079 --> 00:59:24,800 You have to play a flawless perfect game from start to finish to do it, 731 00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:30,880 though. Yeah, I just have a feeling that all the Challengers on 732 00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:35,719 the season were probably expecting that they were always going to be playing for five 733 00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,639 hundred K, and to now know that they could be losing out on some 734 00:59:38,719 --> 00:59:42,400 of that money, I'm sure they're not super happy. But the other part 735 00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:52,239 of this is that what have like did did production think about the possibility of 736 00:59:52,119 --> 00:59:57,239 the Challengers that are in the game winning every single one of these eliminations, 737 00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:02,360 So they go into that final section with twenty people because no one's gone home, 738 01:00:04,039 --> 01:00:06,679 Like, what are they going to do? Then? I'm sure, 739 01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:09,400 I'm sure they'll do a purge? Yeah, on this on this post, 740 01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:14,239 it was or would they have come up with some half baked purge because production 741 01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:17,199 planned so poorly. I don't know if it's I mean, if they have 742 01:00:17,239 --> 01:00:21,679 a purge set up, then I don't know if they planned poorly. It 743 01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,440 just it made me giggle when I read his post. I believe I responded 744 01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:30,679 to his post, hmm, yeah, it would have. It'd be interesting 745 01:00:30,719 --> 01:00:34,920 to see that. Yeah, we just all know what the last section of 746 01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,599 the game is going to be like, so yeah, that may dictate a 747 01:00:37,599 --> 01:00:45,360 lot of this. We'll see. Oh, Carlin's yawning, and that means 748 01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:50,119 it's time to wrap the show up. Hey everybody, thanks, thanks for 749 01:00:50,159 --> 01:00:53,159 listening to the challenge. This has been Brian Carlin, San Diego, Zaky, 750 01:00:53,239 --> 01:01:12,000 Bananas, and uh As Hearing said, this is bullshit. Chalie de Buttery