Every god damn week with this intro will not start properly. Hey, everybody,
welcome to Challenge podcast. All about the Challenge. I'm Brian sitting up
in Minnesota, carlon San Diego and sitting at work like usual. Zachi Bananas.
All right, you're too excited, Zach. You need to bring it
down to everybody else's come on now. This episode seeing Jordan, God,
it made me so happy. I know spoilers, but seriously, I mean
we were talking to the pre show. Brian said that this was the best
episode of the season so far. I agree, and I immediately started thinking
of Tim because I know that he I have a feeling that he would say
exactly what I'm about to say. That Jordan's showing up proves why they should
have had old Challengers on this show, because he injected life into the show
immediately, and he was there for five minutes. They just immediately showed like,
oh this is what I'm missing. It was pretty amazing having him there.
Oh so nice. Well that's the show, everybody, Thanks for stopping
by. Good night everyone. To you next week, head over to Challenge
by dot com Joe, the Facebook group Petreon, which I need to pull
up the other stuff for later, Carlin, do you want to jump into
what happened in this episode? I thought Tim tech nuts, Well, we're
all fucked then, who's Tim? Yeah, I'll remember that guy. Don't
worry. We're not flying by the seat of our pants again, all right.
Season thirty nine, episode five. I have it written down this episode
four because apparently I don't know how to use numbers. Uh, countdown to
chaos, all right. We start off like we always do, heading back
to the house. Everybody's super excited at Kylon's back. They're congratulating him,
and then they look up and see, oh, yeah, Wolfe is screaming
at his dog. He has muted himself so no one can hear him.
But she's got good timing. It is the right time to do that,
you know, all right, so they know you're good. They look up
and see the countdown clock hanging in their dining room and everybody goes ape shit
hmm. They're like, oh my god, it's almost chaos. It's almost
here. They have no idea what chaos is, but yes, so lots
of talking about it, lots of very exciting things, very excited people.
It's Melissa, right, Yeah, Melissa talks about how she's been looking for
it and all all this time it was above where I was eating my breakfast.
What did they think that was up there all the time. I mean,
I wouldn't be surprised if I'm sure we could go back and look.
They either didn't have it on the wall or they just had like a I
don't know, uh said over the top. No Is said the challenge the
whole time. Yeah, so they just had a lamin and over it.
Then it just flipped over to to be in the clock. I mean it's
a good way to do it. Yeah, it works. Yeah. And
then we also we also get this little confessional from Asaf saying that he is
working with the Americans, but the only person who knows that he's working with
the Americans is Jay. He says all of that right in the roads.
Then how are you working with the Americans if they don't know that you're working
with them? It's plausible deniability. I guess each side doesn't know. I'm
also fas as to how he's on the Americans team when he is international.
So whatever no one said Asoff was just smart. I mean, he thinks
that people are his best friends after two weeks of knowing someone. So I
agree him and j are real best friends outside of the show. Yeah,
they are real best friends outside of the show. But he and Corey are
not, so I don't know, we'll get into that later. Uh.
We then cut to the next morning and Kieren and Zara are boxing, and
Karen's real he looks real professional with its whole like you've got to lead with
your your shoulder, got to keep your keep your face behind your lead,
just like, oh my god, all right, yeah, I mean it
was it was five minutes of time that they could have cut it. There
were a lot of extra time things in this that we didn't need to see,
but whatever. Then we get our first montage of the of the day.
Uh. And then we see them walking out of the house to the
challenge grounds and they get there and TJ says, chaos has started housema,
yeah, time for the challenge. TJ starts explaining what chaos is going to
be. He says, you'll never know what game is going to be played,
which they never know what game is going to be played, and then
he tells them that it could be in pairs, it could be in teams,
or it could be individual. Sure. So this episode, this challenge
is going to be played in pairs, and it's called upside down World World
not spelled like World that with a like World Things that Spin, which I
guess the world's you know whatever. The game is played on the side of
a semi because they really like the semi things. There's a giant propeller attached
to the side of the semi that both players from the pair are strapped on
either end of this propeller, and the propeller is turning around and as it
turns, they have to grab rings from the top of the semi and as
it gets going around, they then have to drop the rings or throw the
ring, or toss the rings, or just place the rings on top of
pillars that are along the ground on this runway. And if you get it
on the pillar, it's ten points. If you get it in the yellow
area around the pillar, but only around some of the pillars, it's five
points, and the team with the most points wins and they are safe from
elimination. Yes, our first immunity. Yeah, So pans over everybody and
they all look super excited and they're also kind of worried because he says that
the pairs are going to be randomly assigned. I did like that it was
all randoms. That way, they can game the pairings to like try to
target certain people. Yeah, but it's almost always randomly assigned. I think
it's a rare thing if it's not randomly assigned, So I don't. I
found it kind of strange that they were so like, oh no, what's
gonna happen here? It's random? Yeah? Oh no. I I noticed
this at this point in time, and I then noticed it for the rest
of the episode. Ed has his hair pulled back except for two strands in
the front that are tiny little braids. Yes, I noticed that. Also,
Why why? Because oh my god? But why it looks so bad?
It looks insane. I couldn't. I couldn't look away from it.
It drum me nuts. Maybe maybe he's a Jodan fan and he's really into
like the bad haircuts and styles, the bad haircuts. Yes, Jacquelin says,
it's chaos. That's why, I mean, it is chaos, all
right. They also we see TJ pull every single pair and he spends like
a solid ten seconds on each one of them. This is another scene that
could have been real quick like, what, this episode didn't need to be
an hour and a half. Nope, could easily been an hour yep I
enjoyed. Yeah, but in previous like in past seasons and past episodes,
we see all the pairs, but I don't need to see them spend extra
time on every single person, Like, yeah, I don't need that.
I don't need it at all. I I kind of enjoy enjoyed this season.
I enjoyed it in USA one when they would get like switched up every
round and like they'd have the machine and you did read out the new pairs,
like just something about hearing who it is. I think it's sick.
And that's all about the hour and a half episodes. That's that's what he's
saying. He likes the ninety minute episodes. I like the sixty minute episodes.
But I do think I'm the highest on the season I've I've enjoyed this
season so far. You're insane. I have like bits and pieces of this
episode or this season. All Right, So we are onto the actual meat
of the challenge. Osaf and Michelle go first, which is unfortunate for them
because they do not do very well. No, uh, Corey and Raven
go next, and he's so tall that he's able to just like reach an
arm out and drop these things on the pillars. Kieran inza Azara, who
everybody thought we're going to do really well, do not do well at all.
Emmanuel and Burna fail absolutely miserably. And then after those four teams go
through, they finally start picking up and like speeding through the rest of them.
Yeah, just montage through it, yep. But yet again, they
spent a lot of time on each one of them, which I mean isn't
horrible. But when they were leading into it, they showed the first like
half a second of the semi coming onto the track and the propellers starting to
turn. They showed that same thing, the same clip, but for different
angles, like five times in a row. Why we've destroyed Carlin's enjoyment in
this show. She became part of the podcast, and now she's looking at
it like judgmentally, and now she's like, I fucking hate all this.
I think that started when I started listening to the podcast. It's probably it.
We are the most hateful challenge podcasts on the internet. Yeah, you
know, it happens. We still have fun with it, so we get
through. We finally get through all the pairs, but then they don't show
the actual scores for anybody at the ends of any of the runs or at
the end of all of it, which I was really bummed about. I
wanted to see how people actually did, because there were some people who scored,
like put multiple rings on pillars or put multiple rings in the five point
zone, and we didn't see any of that. They just popped up ten
points or five points. They give the multiple Yeah, who was it?
It was? Was it Kylon? And I don't know who his partner was.
I don't remember, but like, there's would have been interesting because he
grabbed like all the rings and then didn't get him on the post and then
she's like there's no more rings, like I can't do it. Yeah.
Yeah, And there was someone who dropped like five or six of them in
the very last yellow zone. Yeah, and it looked like most of them
landed in it, but it wasn't really clear like Corey it rave it.
Corey put like four or five on one pillar at a time. Yeah,
but it only showed ten points. It's just it's it. I was I
was severely annoyed by that They don't want you racking up who got what points
so you could call them out for bad editing. Yeah, but it's just
it's unfortunate because like in old seasons they used to do that, and I
know that it's been complained about a few times on this podcast just over the
course of the last few years, but it it doesn't make any sense to
me. It's more enjoyable for the viewer to be able to see what everyone's
doing, Yeah, to see what they're all at and then be like,
oh, it's the last team, like how are they going to do?
Or these two teams tied for first place or tied for last place, like
what happens there. It's just it's unfortunate. It's terrible. Yep, I
just got a meeting notification saying you have challenge shaping in half an hour because
I had it for the wrong time. Yeah, you did well, it's
going to be eventually the right time, which we haven't really said when Tim
comes back. We're moving to Thursdays at eight, so yeah, and that'll
be the official time. So ultimately Raven and Corey win and then TJ throws
the curveball at them of guess what, guys, you get to pick who's
going in right now. I need you to be the name of a man
who's going into elimination, which I enjoyed. I enjoyed. I enjoyed.
They had no chance to politic like he literally is like, okay, come
up here in front of everybody, like, come up, stand next to
me. So there was no even like talking to anybody else. It literally
it was just like there's no politicking, there's no yea, beg you,
there's no making deals. It's you got to come up off the top of
your head right now. Ye. I love when they do shit like that.
It's great. It causes a lot of chaos in the house. It's
fantastic. That was great. So while there, while Corey and Raven are
having their little talk, we get another confessional from us Off saying, I'm
feeling pretty good about this one. Corey's like one of my best friends or
I'm one of his best friends in the house, Like we've got a real
good connection. I don't think he's gonna pick me. I'm I'm sitting pretty
good. YEA foreshadowing right, because they had it showed them like talk and
earlier in the episode too, stuff good of friends they were and all the
how much they've bonded since the show started yep. And then Corey picks well
not Corey, Corey and Raven, but Corey says it, they pick asif
Yeah, and he loses its poor sport. Yeah, we get, we
get it, we get kind of suddenly, Zach's antis off. Have I
ever been pro as? I don't know if you've been pro but I don't
know if you've ever been anti before? Yeah? Yeah? Uh. Backing
up real quick, when they're trying to go over people who to throw in
and Raven keeps bringing people up with Corey's like, no, I can't say
their name. I can't say their name, and she keeps asking like,
well, whose sign are you on? Who are you playing for? And
I'm like, Raven, of all people, you're the one who went running
to somebody a couple episodes ago, You're the one who's trying to say UK
guy. Because Corey immediately leads off with I should call Kieren down there,
and I completely agreed with him, Like that was Karen at that point in
time in the game. Karen is one of the best, if not the
best, guy in that house. Yeah, And because this is a guy's
day. She should have just let him pick him. Yeah, it's just
interesting of her reaction. I'm like, well, which side are you playing
for? Blah blah blah. I'm just like, you know, you don't
get to be the one who gets to ask that question. Yeah, they
gets called into question quite a bit this episode. But I think it's different
because like Raven is, you know, having this romance or showmance with Kieran.
So I feel like Koish have known he was off the table, and
that's like one person from the UK set to shame to protect a should point
out quite sham protect like over half of their people. Yeah, but he's
trying to protect people from the UK from the US Alliance, not the UK
Alliance. So the I mean, if she didn't want Kieren to go down
there, and if he says three people from the US Alliance, then she
should immediately say, okay, so let's pick someone else from the UK Alliance
and send one of them down. Yeah, I know, send James down
there. It was it was one of those things that I ate, Oh
my god, James would have gassed out in this elimination. Yeah, he
would have. That would have been great to see aid Corey got a lot
of heat this episode when he was not the only one that made this decision.
Yeah, like Raven just stood there and let him take all this heat
this entire episode. She chimed in once because, yeah, we see a
little bit of the not necessarily breaking the fourth wall, but we see a
little bit behind the curtain before they get on the buses to go back to
the house. And as If just losing it on Corey. Yeah, just
like, oh, I thought we were best friends and he's like, I
just met you two weeks ago. Yeah, I do feel like that is
Corey sort of backing off. I mean I do too, But at the
same time, like as If, I mean, if you compare your relationship
with Corey to quite a few other people in this house, Like how do
you think that you were his best friend in this house? Like Hueye only
left like two days ago. We'll get there, but yeah, it was
it was odd. I'm not a huge fan of os If. I think
he talks too much. I was really looking forward to him leaving this episode,
and spoilers he didn't. I don't have a problem with them. I
don't really like Corey for some reason. I Corey has grown on me.
I like him. But yeah. We also get a few cuts of Michelle
talking about how she's now pissed off at Corey and really worried because TJ didn't
say anything about whether partners have to go in, which I mean is a
valid worry. But at the same time, like, I don't know,
how do you guys feel about it? I feel like it's a valid worry
because we're in chaos right now, could be anything. Yeah, I guess
that's true. You never relaxed. Yeah, I thought some weird thing in
go ahead sick. I mean he just said that she made a valid point.
Yeah, not just grad with you. Well, I think you know,
like anytime you're partnered up with someone that's going into elimination, you have
a very valid concern that it could be a team elimination. Yeah. To
Corey's point later on, though, I completely understand how he and Raven when
they were talking, how they would have just made this decision without thinking about
the fact that a partner would also potentially have to go in because TJ said
pick a guy. So, I mean, they're all new enough player.
I think I think this would have sat differently with me if this were a
bunch of if there were a bunch of vets in this team, in this
in this house, if it were all of the players that we've seen before,
who know what this means, and who who have played this game before,
I think they would have been a little bit They would have voted a
little bit differently. But everybody's played before. They're just not that great at
it. There's a little rookie's sure, but whatever, it doesn't ultimately it
doesn't end up really mattering. So then we are back of the house and
we go to Club Nights. My first two things on here is Big Tea
got Ass, because they've got a few scenes of her, and I looked
at it. When oh, Big Tea got Ass, I'm gonna isolate that
put that on the soundboard. I mean it's true, especially when Tim comes
back. And then also I will be amazed if you guys didn't catch this,
But they pan over at Melissa at one point in time and her boob
is almost entirely out. Oh I missed it. How am I catching?
This is a second episode in a row that I have caught this ship and
you guys aren't. I was watching it work. I couldn't fully concentrate on
it. I had on my phone down next to my computer basically playing it,
so I don't know. I was like, oh great, it's a
club night, and I stopped paying attention. Probably, yeah, except for
when Corey starts crying like a little bit. Yeah I missed the Melissa see.
I mean they're online, you can just look them up. It's true.
We also see the start of the Harassio Nourice relationship, though they don't
know it's a start yet. Anyway, they're still at the club and Michelle
is freaking out on Corey, talking about how how could you not think about
this? And how can you not think that you know, I might also
be up for elimination because you threw him in and blah blah blah blah blah,
and Corey is upset because he doesn't want her to think that that was
part of his decision whatever. And then we hear we're back at the house.
I think we're back at the house. Yeah, we're back at the
house. Everybody's talking about various different things, what's going to happen the next
day, And Kieran says, when somebody mentions Jordan Kieren goes, who's Jordan?
It's like, bro, watch the show you're on? Yeah, like
it. I mean, there are a few players that you should know who
they are, right, what, Like you gotta know Johnny Bana's CT Jordan,
Carl Maria, Emily Schrump, Paula Camilla, Like there there are some
players that you need to know who these people are. Yeah, wes,
So to even think that someone would come onto this show and sit there and
go, oh, even if you just google the challenge, Jordan's gonna pop
up like within the first couple of searches. So the fact that you know
nothing about the show is embarrassing. Yes, yes it is, but especially
if it's your second season. This is not the first person to not know
anything about this game. So yeah, well, so now we are onto
deliberation. Oh that wasn't ready on your phone over there? I was googling
the challenge to see if Jordan would pop up. All right, So we're
in deliberation and asof starts it off by immediately calling Corey a liar. Yeah
he does. I can't believe I'm the only one on this side of the
argument. I don't like Corey, and I'm just like yeah, Asof bitch
chew him up and nobody else was the care No, I like Corey,
I feel like I don't like af Yeah, I just I feel like Asf
is just being emotional. But this is when when Raven finally, finally,
fucking says something and says that it was a mutual agreement. Like, just
because Corey is the one who said it, doesn't mean that he was the
only one who made the decision. Now, I will say, Asof does
make the same mistake that fucking Chauncey did when you start asking people. God,
yeah, in the deliberation, it's it's always good to turn out bad,
don't do it. Yeah, I was cracking up. I mean people
were a little bit more like, yeah, people tried to beat around the
bush a little bit more. But yeah, it was the same general thing.
Jesus whatever. I'm still I'm still confused as to why he thinks that
Corey is one of his best friends. But who knows. Maybe they just
misinterpreted their friendship, that's all. Maybe before I've thought I was like good
friends with somebody and then that turns out they're like, no, I don't
even like you, and I'm like, oh, I feel I feel like
friends then therapy. That's how I feel like. Asof is one of those
people that anytime they meet someone, I feel like off someone that like whenever
they meet someone and like, have you know a couple of good days of
conversation, hanging out, like don't fight, He's like, oh, this
is my best friend. Now if I feels like most of the house is
his best friend, yeah, probably, yeah, but I feel like those
are good people to have in the world. Maybe not on the challenge,
but yeah, who knows, where are we in my notes? We are?
Oh uh so they also, I think Michelle it was either Michelle or
I don't know. One of the girls brings up that they need to start
speculating whether the female partner is going to go down with the male partner into
the sand, and some people are very for it, and other people are
very like, well, he only said male, so why are we even
attempting to think about it. I can see both sides of the argument,
but it was a dead giveaway that the women were not going to be competing
when they all got dressed to go to the elimination and everybody was in street
clothes except for the two guys. Yeah, but as TJ always says,
I lied. Yeah, I can't trust a liar. This is chaos I'm
trying to think. I mean, other than the Zach and Amanda going in
because Zach put them in. I feel like there's only been one other time
where someone has gone in where they've been wearing street clothes and ended up having
to change. I feel like we had a good chance of seeing that happen
tonight though if the draw went different. Oh my god, yes, yeah,
I feel like that in that kind of scenario. Yes, I agree
with that, but we're not quite there, all right. So then they
start going around. Oh, they ask ausof who he wants, and he
says, well, I want to go against the fastest and smartest person here,
So Karen, I think you should come down with me. And my
immediate thought was, why the fuck are you asking him if he should go
down with you? Like he's gonna say no, of course he's gonna say
that, what are you doing. I also didn't realize that they were going
to immediately start voting. Yeah, I was gonna say, yeah, they
they're going to vote. He's got to throw it out there, because then
that's a perfect excuse for everybody to just be like, well, suff said
his name, so I'm just gonna agree with him and not the personal Keran.
Yep, an easy way out. It is. It is an easy
way out. But it was still I found it very strange that he called
him out like that. It made more sense once we realized that they were
actually immediately voting, and Emmanuel's name gets thrown into the mix as well,
which he does not look super happy about, and I just love it.
He looks around like, guys, what the fuck? Yep. But ultimately
Karen is voted in and he votes for himself because by that point in time,
there are like eight votes for him, and I think like four for
a manual. So why Ford just everybody can stop, I'll just I'll go
in. Yeah, which I'm kind of disappointed throughout this whole thing because if
Emmanuel would have been voted in, we could have had versus bizarro world Jordan.
I was thinking the same thing when his name initially got put in.
It's like, yes, we're gonna see it, finally, finally gonna meet
ummm yeah, so now we are onto elimination. I'd like to point out
this is what made me happy. I checked the time stamp while I was
watching it. One hour in we were into elimination. Yeah, so I'm
like, this is gonna be half an hour of elimination. This is great.
There were a lot of commercials, so it was a lot of commercials,
all right. So they walked down into the sand and you have just
the two guys who are dressed ready for elimination. Everybody else goes up by
themselves. No one claps when TJ says the Corey and Raven won. That
did crack me up, Yeah, until Corey said something like what no applause,
And then TJ turns to the guys and asks, you know, how
does it feel to be down here? And ask hearing in first, and
then asks awesome, how he feels to be down here? And awesome,
this is one of the reasons why I don't like it. But he blows
a bunch of smoke up TJ's ass about how, oh, I'm just lucky
to be here. I'm always thinking about the challenge when I'm not here,
and I'm thinking about my kid when i'm here, and I'm just happy to
be here, and I'm happy to have this chance and blows a bunch of
a bunch of smoke up his ass and doesn't mention a single fucking word about
how he's pissed off at Corey for voting him down there. Yeah like you
well agree. I was like, bro, come on, you gotta bring
that smoke if you if you're gonna you're gonna act that way in the house,
you get at own it. Yeah, say that ship to TJ too.
Otherwise you just look like a dumbass, right like he calls a snake,
Like, no, that is a snake move, Like TJ? Can
I can Corey come in instead? Can we can we have an elimination?
What were you gonna say, Zach Oh? I justin absolutely about keeping that
same energy when you go into the elimination. Yeah, yeah, well this
is this is the drum roll of TJ telling them, well, to be
the best, you gotta beat the best, and everybody starts going nuts and
Jordan walks out and they have a great This is where the editing. I
was happy with the editing. They have a great highlight reel. Excellent excellent
highlight reel. Oh showed his last win on Global Championship, him and Kaz
holding that trophy up and stuff. No it was it was fun. I
it got me so hyped. I was so happy to see him. TJ
just reading off like all of his stats. Yeah, nine seasons, five
finals, four titles, sorry, six finals, four titles, and that
includes being the first Challenge world champion. Yep, Kyland, Zach, I'm
sure this is something that you will love. Kyland says that he is the
best competitor in the history of the Challenge. TJ calls him one of the
goats, no questions. What was I said? No question? He followed
it up with that one of the goats, no questions. Yeah, and
there. I mean, it's just it's a bunch of different little snippets from
all these different people who are like, Jordan is fucking good at this game,
Like Jordan comes to play, was it, Kylon then likes I saw
him played tiger Tug of War with one hand, one hand. Yeah,
God, that episode was great. Yeah, Jordan playing Tug of War against
Josh and just beaten the piss out of him. Well, oh, we're
gonna see more of Jordan beating the piss out of somebody. Yeah. Oh,
it was lovely to see him come in, and it just it reminded
me like Oh, yeah, this is what it's like to have the real
challengers here, to see the champs, to see people who know what they're
doing. Oh, it's fantastic. In two weeks, I'm assuming, uh
CT you'll be there. Yeah. So we pan back to TJ and after
welcoming Jordan in, he goes, Okay, if you win this elimination,
you win ten thousand dollars out of their prize pot. Yeah, and they
are not happy. No, no one is happy to see that. This
is about what I assumed was going to happen, though, and I'm very
excited for it. Yeah. We talked about them potentially getting money, and
I don't remember if it was ever like officially said on the podcast or not.
Yeah, I don't know, but this is it adds some strategicy to
it because now it's not only well we have to get we have to throw
people in who we don't want. We now also have to throw people in
we think can win, because if we just throw someone we want to send
home, they may end up losing US ten thousand dollars. Yeah, which
is interesting because they threw Kiaren down there, and yep, you would think
that he'd be able to keep that there. Oh he had, but again
Kieren had no idea what he was up against. No, he did not.
It was like the season where Derek came back as one of the mercenaries
and was up against what's his face, Jos and Josh. Josh is looking
at him like what this tiny little dude like he's not to new ship and
he just got his ship rocked. That episode. Oh see, so good,
already so excited, this whole child, this whole episode could have just
been this elimination. I've been so happy. Well, it's so funny because,
like any regular season, we're happy to see Jordan, like Jordan's here,
that's great. But then the whole cast is like is like that,
and we're just sort of like okay, and then we watch I'm like,
all right, this one, it's just like, oh, the motherfucker Pope
just walked in, Like what the fuck God? And for him to be
the first mercenary to come in, I mean, I I hate that.
I'm gonna say this and I've said this before. Johnny knows how to play
this game. He does, but Johnny's always been shit at eliminations. To
see Jordan walk into that elimination ring, was just something else because, like
it's been talked about multiple time on this podcast. We've talked about it just
in general, you can never count Jordan out. And the man only has
one full hand, and you can never count him out, doesn't matter the
elimination. You're like, oh, if Jordan's in the elimination, he's probably
gonna win. It'll be a fluke if he gets at home. Yep.
Yeah, that's the way you have to approach every single time. The only
time, the only time that I was truly, truly, truly worried about
him was this TJ says that the draw is back and we get a flashback
to when Jordan flips all four cards to get down into the elimination with Johnny.
That was the only time I was worried about it because you see this
giant wall of sheet rock and you know what the elimination is going to be,
and he cannot trying to punch through that wall of rock to be able
to climb a wall of sheet rock when you only have one hand. Ye,
it was that one was that was heartbreaking. Yeah, and you still
don't count him out. He still made it up like half that wall.
Yeah, it was. It also it was already epic, but if he
had beat Johnny and that that would have been like greatest, would have been
the greatest move of all time, fucking flipping over all the cards and going
out and just fucking rocking that elimination. And that's when he was still like
young and hungry, and I mean he's always been hungry, but young and
an asshole. Yeah, he's always been an asshole. Young young destroyed by
bananas destroyed. He was not destroyed. No, that was that was a
great one though. Yeah, so they they had in the draw. What's
in the draw? The draw is there's one for Kieran, there's one for
us off, and there's one that's a big, old giant question mark to
us because TJ doesn't actually tell us what it is. What is your speculation
on what it is? I don't know. I'm wondering if it becomes like
a three way, three way elimination. So my speculation was that the third
one has Jordan's name on it, and if he pulls his own, he
can choose any guy in the game to go against except whoever won immunity.
That that was my thought as well. It's also possible, I I because
part of the reason that was my thought as well, was because when you're
looking at all the challengers that are standing up on that on the platform above
there, the two that one that day are standing up slightly higher. So
it was it'd be a real easy like you can pick from anybody on that
platform except for those two. Oh what if it even becomes anybody? Oh
god better, even better? I mean they did that what last season where
they could pick including the people who won. That was a fun twist.
Yeah, I'm hoping. I really hope that we actually get to see what
that third one is. Yeah, I hope that it's not like the in
past seasons where they've come to a stalemate on who's going to be chosen and
TJ gives them a threat and then they somebody backs off and then we never
end up seeing what's going to happen if there's a stalemate. No, Yeah,
I'm hoping we'll get I want to see it. I want to see
it. It's chaos, chaos everywhere. Ye. So Jordan goes in there
and pulls the pulls out one of them and lo behold, he pulls Kieran's
name. Awesome is off, free and clear, yep. But the good
thing is that means more chaos at the house. Yes, episode, so
we'll see. Yeah, I'm sure they going to be all kinds of fallout
between him and Corey. M all right. So the game is called King
of the Hill. There are two ramps on either side of the arena,
and each ramp at the top has at the top and the two sides has
three lights, and under each light there's a button. The lights will turn
on and both people have to run to the light that's on and try to
hit the button that's underneath it to turn the light off. And the moment
that the light goes off, another light will go on. I thought it
was going to be immediate, but it wasn't. Some of them they had
a little bit of a delay when the next light would come on. I
thought it was for sure going to be On the other sides, they were
running back and forth. Yeah, that was sometimes it's the same side.
I found that a little strange. So those are the perfect participants for this
one. Yes, it was so excited. It was good. Yeah.
So whoever hits the button gets the point the most points is in one minute
wins the round. And it's the best two out of three. Again,
if Jordan wins, he takes home ten k and sends Kieren home, And
if Kieren wins, he saves the ten k and goes back to the house.
So, as TJ says, Kerring Kieren is playing for the whole house
because everybody is losing if Karen loses. We see their pre competition confessionals and
Kieran calls Jordan a geezer. It's like, you you really don't know who
this is, do you? You don't know you're talking. He also says
that he's gonna run right through Jordan, like, oh, buddy, shouldn't
say some of this stuff. Should not say some of this stuff? Yep,
all right. So yeah, but we have the three rounds. First
round, Jordan's kind of taking it easy on Kieran, which I mean,
he's kind of going toe and toe. They end up. I think Karen
has like one or two points more than Jordan does. I didn't know what
was happening. I didn't either. I was getting real worried, and I
was like, is Jordan gassing out? Like this makes no sense? At
one point time at the end of that round, he has like the shoulder
that he dislocated like two or three seasons ago. He's walking away kind of
at a weird angle with the shoulder hanging down. I'm like, did he
did he dislocate his shoulder? Is something wrong? What is happening? I
was really worried. So Karen takes the first round and then the second round
starts and Jordan just stands there for two points. I was like, what
the fuck is he just throwing this? Why is he throwing this? It
was so mad. I was like, sod. My anxiety was through the
roof. I was like, what the fuck is happening? You just showed
up. You you're talking all this ship on your confessionals, and you're now
doing that. What are you doing? Oh? And then we get the
greatest confessional ever of Jordan just sitting there going I'm I'm playing mind games with
him, like these two points are so that he like these first two points
so so that he thinks that he's in an okay place, and I'm going
to show him that this is my arena. Oh my god. And then
he just lets loose and Karen, with his two points without Jordan even trying,
loses in a minute, loses to Jordan Jesus sounds like seven to five.
Oh, it was great. Oh, Jordan's doing that ship too,
where they'll both like scramble up and then Jordan will just stand there in front
of the light. Uh huh, like come on, come on, and
then as as Karen gets close to it, he hits it. Yep,
he's fucking running circles around Kiaren and this one, oh man insane. Both
of the last two rounds. Yea, Oh, it was great. My
anxiety. I was so happy through this entire thing, but my anxiety was
going nuts. Yeah, this was definitely like I'm gonna assume neither of you
have probably seen The Last Dance, which is the documentary on Netflix about Michael
Jordan and the Bulls. I thought you were talking about in even if even
if you're not a basketball fan, which I'm really not, but the impressiveness
of like those six seasons where the Bulls just destroyed everybody. So if you
watch this documentary it's like five episodes long, there is stuff in it where
Michael Jordan, it's one of those it's the same thing where it's like he's
so good at the game that you just have to be impressed. There was
the last season where the Bulls were together, the front office had said,
we're dismantling the team after this. So even if you guys win the championship,
like you guys like were splitting the team up, they're all going to
be traded whatever. And so Michael Jordan would hear that somebody in the front
office was interested in this guy on the other team. So Jordan would put
a target on him and just embarrass him on the basketball court, just make
it look like look like shit. And he would I mean, he's fucking
babe Ruth. He would call a shot. He would just be like,
Oh, that guy, I'm gonna make him look real stupid today. And
he would totally do it. And it would be the same thing, like
he could turn it into overdrive and just do anything he wanted. And that's
the same thing we're seeing here, where's just like, yeah, I'm just
not even really gonna try that much and still just destroy this person. Yeah,
Jordan definitely found his game when he came to the challenge. Is an
asshole, but it suits him in this game, like it this is the
game for him, this whole especially the whole thing, especially this version where
he just gets to come in and be a mercenary, so he doesn't he
doesn't have to politic, he doesn't have to worry about pissing someone off so
they might vote him in. It literally is just oh, I get to
show up and be an asshole to these people, like okay, and he
will full on own it and do it. Yep. God, it's great
to watch. It's so great to watch now. I was gonna bring this
up on the post show during the social media, but we could discuss now.
Have you guys seen that there's a lot of controversy around this elimination online?
No, okay, so the story going around from some of the vets,
and I see on both sides. It's first off, this was not
a best of three. Is the best of five? Kieran destroyed Jordan in
the first two, and then Jordan complained to production, which they say is
why you can't see in that second round that we saw, there's kind of
like a weird edit where it's like almost like a reset. Apparently that's because
Jordan's stopped it and went to production to complain. After that, Kieren is
told he's not allowed to wrestle Jordan anymore. And there's also some of them,
claiming Kieren as well that like we see how Jordan's k have like bodyguarding
some of the lights and like not laying Karen do it to like waste time.
Apparently Kieren tried doing that as well, and Karen Clinton when he did
it, that light would turn off and another one would go on, but
like with Jordan, they would leave the light on for him. Interesting,
well, well, it needs to be a little less happy, I know,
same, it takes a little bit of the wind out of my sails.
Still happy. I'm gonna pretend like I didn't hear any of it.
But you know, during all of this, I guess Eric, let's finish
this first. So ultimately Jordan ends up winning, and which I wonder,
like, anyway, we'll put a pause on that Jordan ends up winning.
It makes a lot more sense as to why Kiaran at the end of this
is fucking pissed and you can hear him say this is fucking bullshit. Yeah,
that makes a little bit more sense. Now you could tell he's in
his post interview that he is. He's at that point where he's so mad
that he's crying, which is the worst. It's the worst feeling. I
hate that you get that to that point. It just is terrible. Yeah,
yeah, I have in all caps this is what you what happens when
you compete against the champs, which again the wind has been taken out of
my sales act. I'm sorry, but it's a big point of controversy between
fans and cast members right now. I can understand that. But again,
like to go back to things that have been said on the show, on
the podcast before of this game is never fair, like we all want it
to be fair, but it's never fair. So yeah, whose force wants
to know? How about Emmanuel turning his back? Yeah? So was it
about Toy? I don't know, so that it also makes a little bit
more sense for that too. So you know, they say goodbye to Kieren,
he walks off, and then TJ turns to Jordan says, you know,
thanks for coming. This was great. You have anything you want to
say? Jordan makes his little speech, which pulled a Wes. Jordan makes
his a little speech and he's making as he's talking, Emmanuel turns his back
on him, and it's like I don't want to hear you, I don't
want to listen to you. I don't need to listen to this, which
nobody else does, so it's just this weird. It just makes it look
like a dick. And then when he turns back around, TJ says,
you know, is there anybody else up there that you would have liked to
see something to that effect, and Jordan Emmanuel says that he wishes that he
would have been able to see, like, been able to compete against Jordan
down the sand, to which Jordan immediately claps back. He's like, you
could have come down. You could have voted yourself in. You could have
when we got here, when I showed up, you could have said I
want to come down and taken their place. Because that's happened. They haven't
always allowed it, but it has happened, so we'll see it. I
called bullshit. I think that Emmanuel was just peacocking to Peacock because he knew
he was saying. I think Emmanuel meant it. I think Asof was full
of it when he was like, oh man, like I was wanting to
go against you. Oh yeah, hundred percent. Aesof was definitely peacocking.
But I think Emmanuel was surprised by all this. Asof us off I just
I I feel like they were both doing the os and Emmanuel were both doing
the hold me back, hold me back, like fight at a bar,
so you're you'll sit there pretend like you're gonna fight someone, but only if
there's security in between two of you. I don't I don't think Emmanuel would
ever throw himself in. But I think if he had been down there and
got to go against Joran, I think you would have been legit excited for
the opportunity and you know, to go against him or that I think asof
would have put on a tough faith, but he would have been like crying
on the inside. Oh yeah, oh, I agree with that. I'm
just saying like it. Emmanuel makes it look makes it sound like he would
have voted himself in, which I think is I don't think he would have
done that. So I had this thought while they were competing, and again
Wynd has been taking out of the sales a little bit, but it still
kind of works since I hadn't had this thought prior to this, since these
competitors are not actually competing against any against any of the champs except for in
these eliminations. Do you guys think that this season is going to fall into
the same kind of category as like Battle to the Stars or what was it,
the Champs versus Stars, the sort of thing, because they're not competing
against any of the normal players. I don't know if the season I don't
have the season font to that, but I definitely think for a lot of
people, myself included, if if the winner does not go against a champ
and beat them, I'm gonna think that like, yeah, they're a winner,
but it was a very weak win. Like you know, we've definitely
seen that another show. I'll always have an asterisk next to them. Yeah,
I mean we've seen that a lot of the O shows like Survivor and
Big Brother, where there's some winners you just like, yes, they won,
and it's valid. But if you look at like the competition they had
on their season, it was a very low bar company adition. So was
it really that impressive? Yeah, so I guess I should rephrase that.
Do you think it'll fall into the same category as like USA one where everybody
quit, the eliminator quit the finale, and Sarah won by default. I
don't think we'll see that. I don't think we'll I think it'll fall into
that same kind of thing. Yeah, No, I don't think that we'll
see everybody quit, but I'm saying I think it'll fall into that same kind
of category and that Sarah is a champion, but only because everybody else goes.
Yeah, and whoever wins this season agree, I agree. If they
don't go against a champion and win, then they're going to be looked at
with an asterisk next to their name. I think. I think at that
point, whoever wins needs to come back like on season forty or whenever and
like compete in a season with like the Jordan's and the Bananas and the cars,
and like, if they hold their own there, then I think,
you know, their respect level will go up. But if they come in
and they're just like thrown out first right away, like okay, so like
they're they're a fake champion. Yeah, I don't know. I don't really
care that much, honestly. It's just like you're supposed to have these opinions
wins, who wins, who doesn't, and where it sounds like production's being
shady this season already, so we'll just be like, I don't know,
production shady every season, I like, but if you're Zack, you don't
think production is shady, I do not, but I will I will say,
like I do think production has to be thinking we have like ten champions
here and if they come in and go, oh to ten, that's gonna
be really bad for our show. Mm hmm. Yeah. So yeah,
all right, that's the end of the episode. We dunt dunt dum yep.
We had to bring the energy down, Zach by telling us how shady
this elimination was. Well, I mean, Therese is one of the most
outspoken people out there defending Jordan's. So if you like Jordan's, you know,
Nouris is your girl, saying that it was all on the up andough.
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do you have anything else social media wise act besides besides elimination? I
think that was the only big thing I saw. Uh CT's Divorces is final
and TMZ put it on the their front page and put a really really awful
picture of CT as the photo really bad it was. It was, Yeah,
it was really really really bad, Which I mean, whatever, if
you're not a Challenge fan, then people are gonna think that he's the bad
guy anyway. But whatever. So it's not necessarily social. It's on social
media, but it's not the Challengers social media on our Challenge on our social
media page, on our Facebook page, David Hevelka put a spoilers post from
last night, and he did the right thing. He did spoilers from last
night and dot dot dot whatever. But I was reading through it and he
brought up a good point. So he says, so we're in the chaos
section of the format and Jordan comes in for elimination when so a challenger goes
home and the prize pot loses ten k. Is that the picture hold on?
Yes, horrible picture of CT mountain Man. Yeah, like Grizzly Adams.
M So it says hypothetically the prize pot would have been five hundred K
if they had successfully won all the team challenges. So now I assume that
at least some of the champions win and the prize and now they're going against
the the challenge the champions that have come in, they're going against them,
and at least some of the challenger the champions win, So they're automatically going
to lose some of the money out of the prize pot. They're never actually
truly competing for five hundred k, like unless unless all of these newbies are
able to win against the challengers, they're never actually competing for five hundred K.
They are always competing for less than that. How do you guys feel
about that? I think it may be, well, we don't know what's
going to happen in the last stage. Maybe they'll be able to earn more
money into the Well. TJ does say that they can earn more money into
the pot, Like he said, that in the initially when we were seeing
all when he was laying out the game. But so they may be able
to get it back up to five hundred and I can't here to does he
ever directly stay there competing for five hundred care? Does he say you didn't
he say, like, you can get it up as high as five hundred
K? Yeah? So up, but up as high as so like five
hundred k. Yeah is the master. So if you win all of the
like the team more eliminations to give the max amount money and then you guys
clean sweep the champions, then yeah, you can win five hundred K.
You have to play a flawless perfect game from start to finish to do it,
though. Yeah, I just have a feeling that all the Challengers on
the season were probably expecting that they were always going to be playing for five
hundred K, and to now know that they could be losing out on some
of that money, I'm sure they're not super happy. But the other part
of this is that what have like did did production think about the possibility of
the Challengers that are in the game winning every single one of these eliminations,
So they go into that final section with twenty people because no one's gone home,
Like, what are they going to do? Then? I'm sure,
I'm sure they'll do a purge? Yeah, on this on this post,
it was or would they have come up with some half baked purge because production
planned so poorly. I don't know if it's I mean, if they have
a purge set up, then I don't know if they planned poorly. It
just it made me giggle when I read his post. I believe I responded
to his post, hmm, yeah, it would have. It'd be interesting
to see that. Yeah, we just all know what the last section of
the game is going to be like, so yeah, that may dictate a
lot of this. We'll see. Oh, Carlin's yawning, and that means
it's time to wrap the show up. Hey everybody, thanks, thanks for
listening to the challenge. This has been Brian Carlin, San Diego, Zaky,
Bananas, and uh As Hearing said, this is bullshit. Chalie de Buttery