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You're listening to the Downbeats on ninety
seven to one The Freak. Let's get

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right into this, Jimmy Kimmel and
Aaron Rodgers. This is a big deal

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here. I'm Kevin Turner with Danny
Baylis and Mike Siroy JJ Jackson producing the

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show today. Check out some of
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a second, we have Dallas Mavericks
basketball tonight on The Freak as well.

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John Morant out for the season.
There it's twenty five games suspended, played

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nine and done for the years.
Torn is laboram. They're kind of out

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of it anyway, so go ahead
and rehab that and get ready for next

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year. So should be an easy
one to take care of business. You

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can listen to match tonight here on
The Freak Aaron Rodgers and Jimmy Kimmel.

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I'll make you context here. This
is the joke from last week that Aaron

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Rodgers, well joke, the statement
Aaron Rodgers made last week on the Pat

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McAfee show. Let me turn my
volume up here we go. A lot

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of people, including Jimmy Kimmel,
are really hoping that doesn't all right talking

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about the Epstein. So you know, right, a lot of freaking out

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there. Now again, just for
full context, here's Jimmy Kimmel his diss

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on Aaron Rodgers back in February of
twenty twenty three that we think might have

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sparked this. There's some files that
have some names either might be getting released

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pretty soon. Oh oh, i'd
be time to revisit that concussion protocol,

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Aaron. That's a slight jab and
that's what we think sparked Aaron Rodgers to

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make that comment. I will say
Jimmy Kimmel had taken more shots at Aaron

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throughout that whole vaccine storyline with Aaron. Okay, So Kimmel had his first

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show of the year last night and
he opens it up with this. This

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is about a minute long. And
then it did come out, And of

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course my name wasn't on it and
isn't on it and won't ever be on.

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I don't know Jeffrey Epstein. I've
never met Jeffrey Epstein. I'm not

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on a list. I was not
on a plane or an island or anything

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ever. And I suggested that if
Aaron wanted to make false and very damaging

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statements like that, we should do
it in court so he could share his

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proof with like a judge. Because
you know, when you hear a guy

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who won a Super Bowl and did
the all the state farm commercials say something

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like this, a lot of people
believe it. A lot of delusional people

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honestly believe I am meeting up with
Tom Hanks and Oprah at Shakey's once a

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week to eat pizza and drink the
blood of children. And I know this

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because I hear from these people often. My wife hears from them, my

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kids hear from my poor mailman ears
from these people. And now we're hearing

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from lots more of them thanks to
Aaron Rodgers, who I guess believes one

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of two things. Either he actually
believes my name was going to be on

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Epstein's list, which is insane,
or the more likely scenario is he doesn't

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actually believe that. He just said
it because he's mad at me for making

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fun of his top knot and his
lies about being vaccinated. Okay, sounds

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a little bit of a kickback there. Now he went on this again.

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It's like a seven minute thing,
so I cut it down, and really

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we've got only two or three minutes. So he saw that and maybe to

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retaliate. He decided to insinuate that
I am a pedophile. This is how

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these nuts to do it. Now
you're a pedophile. It's their go to

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move, and it shows you how
much they actually care about pedophilia. But

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here's the thing. I spent years
doing sports. I've seen guys like him

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before. Aaron Rodgers has a very
high opinion of himself because he had success

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on the football field. He believes
himself to be an extraordinary being. He

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genuinely thinks that because God gave him
the ability to throw a ball, he's

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smarter than everyone else. The idea
that his brain is just average is unfathomable

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to him. We learned during COVID
somehow he knows more about science than scientists.

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A guy who went to community college
then got into Cal on a football

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scholarship and didn't graduate. Someone who
never spent a minute studying the human body

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is an expert in the field of
immunology. He just put on a He

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put on a Mat Jake helmet,
and that gm made him a genius.

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Its Aaron got two a's on his
report card. They were both in the

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word Aaron, okay easy. You
know he's going in too hard is he.

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I didn't think so. I thought
he could have ripped him to shreds

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if he wanted to. But I
thought I thought he took it pretty easy

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on him. Now Here is where
he has laid out, and this is

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a almost a way to call off
the dogs. And we will see because

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Aaron is allegedly going to be on
Pat McAfee today for his paid appearance.

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He said, tune in and he
will have the he will have the potential,

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he will have the opportunity to apologize. Kim Hal lays it out right

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here, dude, just apologize and
it's over. And I actually think this

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is a pretty I think this is
a pretty baller move by Kimmel. Who

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I thought Kim. I thought he
took it a little far on Twitter saying

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we could take it to court too. I thought that was a little much.

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I do think this is a power
move. We are when you are

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in a position to just take the
high road and then do it to an

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audience of people who are there to
see you. People are on your side

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here and just to go, look, this doesn't have to go on any

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longer than you want it to.
This hamster brained man thinks he knows what

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the government is up to because he's
a quarterback doing research on YouTube and listening

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to podcast I looked it up.
This is actually a thing. It's called

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the Dunning Kruger effect. The Dunning
Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which

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people with limited competence in a particular
domain overestimate their abilities. In other words,

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Aaron Rodgers is too arrogant to know
how ignorant he is. They let

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him host Jeopardy for two weeks.
Now he knows everything. And by the

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way, I'm not one of those
people who thinks athletes and members of the

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sports media should stick to talking about
sports. I think Aaron Rodgers has the

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right to express any opinion he wants
it. But saying someone is a pedophile

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is not an opinion. Nor is
it trash talk. Sorry, Pat macke

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And as far as the well you
say things about people all the time,

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argument goes, yes, I do. It's not the same. It's not

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even close to the same. We
say a lot of things on this show.

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We don't make up lies. In
fact, we have a team of

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people who work very hard to sift
through facts and reputable sources before I make

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a joke, and that's an important
distinction, a joke about someone. And

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when I do get something wrong,
which happens on rare occasions, you know

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what I do. I apologize for
it, which is what Aaron Rodgers should

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do, which is what a decent
person would do. But I bet he

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won't. If he does, you
know what I'll do, I'll accept his

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apology and move on. But he
probably won't do that. My guess is

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he won't apologize. I hope them
wrong. That's how I think it will.

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So I don't know if he'll apologize
or not. One thing I'll say,

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I do agree. There's a lot
here because Kimmel isn't a worlder,

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He's a comedian. He does make
fun of people. He is right though.

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They have lawyers and they do not
want to get sued for defamation ever.

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Our Stripmall, Steve's sister works for
John Oliver, and I've talked to

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her. The podcast are a long
time ago and the amount of research slash

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lawyering that goes on on shows like
that, comedy shows like that, Yeah,

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it would blow our minds. John
Oliver, Yeah, because that's not

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just when they do deep twenty three
minute dives on one topic, but anyway,

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yeah, you're right. Well,
no, it's it's the same way

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for community. They don't want to
assue. They we can't make this joke.

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It's too much. They could throughout
a you know, it's a slanderous

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slander, definite defamation. Whatever the
difference is on the point of all that

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is though, is he said,
though, it's not trash talk. I'm

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sorry, Pat McAfee. That was
good. And I love that these people

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all work for the same company.
I just I full love it. So

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it's not trash talk. I'm sorry
Pat McAfee, And he is right there

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just going, oh you're a protofoil. Oh yeah, better not be on

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the list. That is not trash
talk. That's stupid and terrible and it

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shows that you're a dumbass. So
like I do one hundred percent agree with

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that. When you fall back to
the cookie cutter dish of euro pedophile,

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that's bad. Kim's tweet is a
lot like I almost Kim almost could have

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waited until this night and done it, because it comes out a little better

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when he says it, you know, And he worked in a few clean

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jokes there, but I I don't
I know I feel like I know Aaron

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Rodgers toole. Aaron Rodgers ain't apologizing. No, of course, he'll apologized

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to Pat McAfee, he will apologize
to ESPN, he might apologize to Disney.

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He may do that, or I'm
sorry if you were offended. Yep,

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that old move. For me.
It was a joke, like,

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I'm sorry you don't understand. Yeah, because he probably thinks he's hilarious and

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I'm sorry you're stupid. Thought he
was on another comedy show that's sports reliant

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and yeah, on McAfee show.
But I'm sorry that you didn't understand the

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joke. Yeah, yeah, a
big But Kimi called him a hamster brain

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in the same part of the monologu
where he asked for the apology. That

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pretty much ensures that Aaron Rodgers is
not gonna calmly, take a deep breath

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and apologize to the man who has
called him that. Hey, Kimmel may

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not want Kimmel may not even want
the apology. Kim Will probably doesn't want

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the apology. He probably just wanted
to do that and look great by doing

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it. Just apologize it. It's
over good, Go ahead, you do

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it. So like, but here's
one thing I do know about Aaron Rodgers,

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and this is, by the way, part of the reason I think

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Aaron Rodgers and Mike McCarthy's Green Bay
tenure didn't work out or ended up not

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working out and won a Super Bowl. Okay, so it worked out one

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year, But like part of the
reason they broke up is because you have

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two guys who are unaccountable and they
just do not They're not responsible for their

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actions. Aaron Rodgers will lie for
no reason. He will say that there

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was no communication with people. Aaron
Rodgers is not going to directly apologize to

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Jimmy Kimmel. May apologize for the
situation, he is not apologizing to Jimmy

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Kimmel today. There's no way.
Aaron Rodgers doesn't think he has anything to

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apologize for. He didn't call Jimmy
Kimmel a pedophile. He didn't say that

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Jimmy Kimmel's name was on the list. He just said, Jimmy Kimmel,

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you might be interested or watch out, Jimmy Kimmel. I mean, look,

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I might be on the No,
he didn't know. Do you have

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it? Yeah, listen, listen
to listen to this in the literal uh

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with a literal ear. A lot
of people, Jimmy Kimmel are really hoping

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that doesn't clearly just a joke with
your buddies. Yeah, and Jimmy's point

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is right, don't if you want
to joke about something, don't joke that

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I'm on the Epstein List. And
that's one of Jimmy's first jokes in the

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audio you played, was him sort
of implying that just the fact that you

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would throw that out as a joke
knowing minimizes what you think of the Epstein

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List and pedophilia. But it's like
it's being thrown about flip flippantly. Yeah.

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Yeah. But the thing is is, is Aaron Rodgers even cognizant of

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the fact that he has sick of
fans that are far are wilder nut jobs

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than he is, where he's kind
of on the spectrum of that, there

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are people that are hardcore that will
interpret that as reality where you have people's

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that Yeah, he's got to know
that, So there is I think there

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is a certain element of responsibility to
know that if he says something like this,

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the people that are like that look
at Aaron Rodgers is kind of the

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torch bearer for their movement, their
Cue movement or whatever it may be,

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are going to take that seriously because
they're already brainwashed. So anything you just

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add on to it is just going
to be allowed into their their their mindset,

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and their belief system anyway. So
yeah, I think there's a little

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bit of responsibility on Aaron's part,
but I don't think he's gonna apologize.

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I don't think in his mind he
said anything wrong. I guess I'll see

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the data Joe. A world where
Kimmel wants this to go away very quickly

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as it totally. Last week people
were re Matt fighting old bits that wouldn't

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quite age well, you know which
you know there's something too, like something

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he did twenty years ago, depending
on what it was. Right. Let

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me ask you, Kevin, if
you handed Mike McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers the

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exact same Scholastic aptitude test, the
SAT test, who do you think would

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score higher? Aaron Rodgers? You
do? Absolute community college and then yeah,

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football scholarship, Yeah, okay,
I do. And the reason I

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don't think Aaron Rodgers us No,
I think he's an intelligent person. Oh

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tell you know what, when it
comes to no blanket statements Kevin, But

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when it comes to athletes, I
think he I should be one of those

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smarter. I mean, the football
IQ on this dude was nuts. Football

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IQ way different than a world IQ
though. I have a little little things

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about like managing a clock and timeouts
and at the end of hads and things

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like that, you know, the
stuff that we kind of see. Dude

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Rogers handled all that very well and
covered a lot of that up. You

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don't think he has any political aspirations, do you. I don't think so.

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I think you would have liked the
Jeopardy job. I think he would

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have really been interested in that.
I don't think he doesn't. I actually

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don't. I don't think he really
leans a certain way either. Imagine he's

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libertarian. Yeah, I think so. That's kind of be all encompassing.

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Yeah. Yeah, he's a Buddha
guy, you know, or once the

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world see of his Buddha guy,
you know. But I don't know,

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we'll see if it ramps up anymore. Hanging a couple of somebody with a

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voice like he has that is brainwashed
to a large degree, I think that

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can sound smarter than he really is. That's that's a big weapon. Man.

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Dude, it's powerful for sure.
You know it's dangerous. Absolutely is.

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I don't thinking then this month or
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If you are in the neighborhood of
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not, you don't there's no movie
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Just go in and eat. Yeah, just go have a drink and eat

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a meal. And as always on
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you order them as rella sticks,
don't do it. But the food is

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just I've thought that before. It
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don't really want to go see a
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going to the vetted well having a
drink one night. I want to arrange

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this and we need to wait till
we have time, uh and can work

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on it. I would like to
do a little downbeat trivia night. I

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think they do some Tuesday nights and
either quiz Master, I could, I

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could. You might have a few
hundred trivia questions that have nowhere to be

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asked in the near future. I
fear for Texas Twister. Okay, here

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is a message. This also brought
to advanced air restoration. Honestly, come

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on, this is the first year
that McCarthy has gotten to run his plays,

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run Dak through his quarterback school,
and now DAK for the first time

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ever, is being mentioned as MVP
possibility. McCarthy is turning the ship around,

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and the ship's turning around, Kevin, I love you. Otherwise the

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ship's turning around on me. Let
him finish. He didn't, That's all

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he had. It's a weird spot
to end a sentence. That's hard to

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know and fire off another one if
he did something right, though, Kevin,

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Kevin, he's got Dak in the
MVP conversation and we got Ceedee Lamb

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in the best receiver in the sport
conversation. What do you have to say

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for yourself? Now, Kevin,
Dak's been in the MVP conversation, but

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for okay, first of all,
flimsy, but what else? Let me

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just say, why did it take
till week seven to go? You know

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what, Ceedee Lamb and Brandon Cooks
are on the team. Okay, well

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why now the offense works? It
took if we're we saw the image of

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Ceedee Lamb and he as we know, and you will hear again on Sunday.

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Not a diva about it. I
have to McCarthy said, get me

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the f and all right, well, don't put McCarthy in that old school

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coaches box and won't listen. You
do it my way. He listened,

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and he said, Jesus, you're
right. I need to get Ceedee Lamb

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the ball and he leaves the league
in target. Do you think on a

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week to week basis, the Cowboys
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be penalized team? Quick? You
feel little reasons that might support the argument.

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I feel good about twelve wins every
damn year? Do you feel good

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about the game? Every other team
in the sport would basically kill for double

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digit wins to be insured, much
less twelve wins. Do you feel good

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about it? Cowboys settling for a
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half. I mean you can second
guess. We'll just watch a game closely

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and find stuff's the second guess.
Gay, that's not hard to do.

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It's a hard job. Kevin hosting
the Globes. Mike McCarthy have that job.

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And macarthy's soft bitch boys. Yeah, McCarthy has less time to prepare

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for Sunday's game than your boy did
to get ready for the Globes. We

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should do a couple of playoff brackets
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simple based on which quarterbacks better,
do one that's based on which the head

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coach is hotter or or harder.
Yeah, because you know, you look

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at the Packers, you definitely have
a soft bitch boy looking head coach and

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Matt Lafloor. Yes, a guy
looks like he should be in GQ,

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you know, doing some modeling against
m McCarthy, who does not look like

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he's ever modeled ever. Yeah,
I mean you would end up with Mike

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McCarthy at and read. I think
I couldn't map that out if we're going

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to buy hard men. Yo.
So I saw a new story this morning

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that they actually found the doorhole plug
hidden inside of Jeff Kavanaugh's dresser. I

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don't know. Was that how the
freak gotten in the Dallas Morning News today,

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So I don't know, leaving it
out there to hit her in his

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dresser, So I don't know.
During the game last night, did anybody

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notice that the pop Tart mascot was
up at the booth with all the celebrities,

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jealous celebrities, the celebrities getting to
hang out. Yeah, Travis Scott,

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Michael Jordan, Derrek Jeter and the
pop Tart in a sweet celebrating depends

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on the flavor, but yeah,
the pop Tart Bowl was incredible. I

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kind of missed it, but I
saw Twitter blowing up about support for pop

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Tart Man. Well, the game
sucked, but the the what was he

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just popping it out everywhere all over
the Plus he smacked a ref on the

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ass. But then before he killed
himself is he goes into a toaster is

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a massive He holds up a sign
that says dreams really do come true and

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then jumps into a toaster and he
slides out and outsides a huge, like

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ten foot pop Tart cake. Okay, and it's like as if it was

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him killing himself and the players just
start eating it. If the winning team

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start eating it, that's fantastic,
really fireworks. He went in there with

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a sign like the sign coyote falling
off a cliff. Dreams do come true?

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Or dreams really do come true?
It's I didn't know that so good,

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and it's they're gonna bring it back, dude, They're gonna recreate it

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next year with another one. I'm
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made there. If y'all have seen
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guys the text. That's what he
looked like. He's holy Us assigned to

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the crowd before he jumps in the
toaster, basically incinerating himself. It's awesome.

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Dreams really do come dream Look he's
strawberry flavored too. Yeah he was

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strawberry Yeah, okay, last one. Hey, I'm the mayor of Oklahoma

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City and I'm green liit the Oklahoma
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while hanging out with the state comptroller
discussing a budget surplus we had. I

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went to lean over the railings fit
my dip into a pile of ash.

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It used to be a series of
acclaimed novels and noticed that he had a

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happy set of new truck nuts hanging
from his truck, and I thought,

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jet throw, We're gonna have to
build us as phallic monuments to match those

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nuts. And once his built,
we're going to sell shark repelling brads out

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of it. But no sooner's ever
bit within these borders again. Wow,

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is a close listener dude who ties
the whole thing together. Yes, he

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won the day. He just took
the title from that other guy. He's

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like the non wrestling centric Brodie.
Yeah, exactly everything else Brody. Hey,

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y'all, And speaking of tying it
all together, let's tie up the

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rest of the listening day with the
Ben and Skin Show with Christin and Steve,

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and then the Speakeasy of course with
Julie, Jeff and the Shoopies,

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and then MAVs basketball tonight here on
ninety seven one The Freak. We will

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be back tomorrow morning at six am
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we do on the iHeartRadio app Sopranos
Day tomorrow, we're gonna take a look

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at the twenty five year anniversary of
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Jason Kidd will call into the show
and maybe have another super wild card pump

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session as well. All the local
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Tomorrow morning six to ten with the
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Everyone have a safe day and Mike
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