WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:04.160 Joining us now to talk about a lot of things football related and a little 2 00:00:04.160 --> 00:00:08.039 bit of basketball, because something happened last night Clemson related. Our good buddy 3 00:00:08.039 --> 00:00:11.480 Will Van de Voort from All Clemson. He's here. How are you doing 4 00:00:11.480 --> 00:00:14.800 abouty what's going on? How is you? God? God, couldn't hear 5 00:00:14.800 --> 00:00:22.679 your voice? Hud Huh. It's good to hear your voice. I thought 6 00:00:23.120 --> 00:00:25.399 he had the applause. I said, well, did me explained? I 7 00:00:25.399 --> 00:00:30.920 thought you said, I can't hear your voice. Voice, Thank you. 8 00:00:30.960 --> 00:00:33.600 It's good to hear your voice too. Man. Always we uh, of 9 00:00:33.600 --> 00:00:36.920 course do a lot of work during the football it's basketball season for the ingle 10 00:00:37.000 --> 00:00:39.880 side of things. And look, it's kind of like I said, it's 11 00:00:39.920 --> 00:00:43.600 that good thing for you and for me in a way, the dead zone 12 00:00:43.600 --> 00:00:46.439 and football where you can kind of breathe a little bit. But some news 13 00:00:46.479 --> 00:00:49.520 last night, of course, the NBA Draft and you know, Hunter Tyson, 14 00:00:49.679 --> 00:00:52.320 what a career you had at Clemson. I know he worked really hard. 15 00:00:52.359 --> 00:00:55.439 Brad Brunel's talked about it. You've been covering this story. Uh. 16 00:00:55.679 --> 00:00:58.159 He was known as the guy that was eating oat meal in the morning through 17 00:00:58.240 --> 00:01:00.439 the old man in the building and really one of the veterans of that team, 18 00:01:02.079 --> 00:01:03.879 and there he goes. It was some confusion early on as to where 19 00:01:03.879 --> 00:01:07.439 he was. I thought it was Denver, that Oklahoma city, and he 20 00:01:07.560 --> 00:01:10.840 will be joining the fat Boys. He calls himself, Yo, kis out 21 00:01:10.840 --> 00:01:14.040 in Denver. How about that man? Your thoughts on it? Yeah, 22 00:01:14.040 --> 00:01:18.040 that's great to Tyson. He is a Hunter is a great young man. 23 00:01:18.920 --> 00:01:23.280 M and he was always fun to talk to the last couple of years, 24 00:01:23.400 --> 00:01:27.920 very open um, you know, just a you know, he's one of 25 00:01:27.959 --> 00:01:32.239 those kids that you just loved the interview and talked to and just kind of 26 00:01:32.280 --> 00:01:34.719 get to know him. And you know, you mentioned the story of the 27 00:01:34.760 --> 00:01:38.640 oatmeal and Coach Brownell telling that story and Hunter telling the story. That was 28 00:01:38.680 --> 00:01:44.200 like one of the funniest days this past season, Coach Brownhell going into and 29 00:01:44.200 --> 00:01:47.079 sharing us the oatmeal story. And for the people that don't know, they 30 00:01:47.079 --> 00:01:49.719 can go on our website. Didn't read the story about it. He was 31 00:01:49.760 --> 00:01:52.879 looking up knew I knew it, and I knew you had the oatmeal on 32 00:01:52.920 --> 00:01:55.040 you. I knew you had the oatmeal scoop. That's why I brought it 33 00:01:55.120 --> 00:01:57.640 up, my friend. Yeah, so you know, that's a that's a 34 00:01:57.760 --> 00:02:01.840 that's a. That's one of my favorite stories. Uh how he was just 35 00:02:01.920 --> 00:02:05.799 in the building all the times, so he would bring his own Oakville and 36 00:02:05.840 --> 00:02:12.520 then start eating you know, before the coaches all stuff. Yeah, he's 37 00:02:12.520 --> 00:02:16.199 an old man at heart, and so he led that way. He was 38 00:02:16.240 --> 00:02:21.599 a big leader on that team. And um and just the way he played 39 00:02:21.639 --> 00:02:24.280 this year and how I mean, you look at Clemson's record the last two 40 00:02:24.319 --> 00:02:29.439 years when hundred tyson was playing, it was I mean they won over you 41 00:02:29.479 --> 00:02:32.400 know, probably over thirty games, thirty five games in the last two years 42 00:02:32.400 --> 00:02:37.599 that he started, and very few losses in there, right, because you 43 00:02:37.599 --> 00:02:39.280 remember got Hurts junior or and he missed, he missed a lot of time, 44 00:02:39.919 --> 00:02:43.439 and when he came back, they were almost unbeatable when he was in 45 00:02:43.479 --> 00:02:46.960 the lineup. And it's not that he's just you know, like a Larry 46 00:02:46.960 --> 00:02:49.479 Bird kind of guy or anything like that. And people to get the wrong 47 00:02:49.520 --> 00:02:53.400 idea, but his leadership on the court, his style of play, what 48 00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:58.120 he brings to the table, his ability to play defense and the rebound or 49 00:02:58.159 --> 00:03:01.199 a lot of reasons why Clempson associates Festival the last couple of years with him 50 00:03:01.240 --> 00:03:06.840 on the floor. And you know, so him getting drafted is a bit. 51 00:03:06.919 --> 00:03:09.599 It's great story because remember he went into the draft last year, right, 52 00:03:09.680 --> 00:03:13.479 and he went and did all the NBA stuff and all that, and 53 00:03:13.520 --> 00:03:16.680 then he came back to school, took that what he learned, made himself 54 00:03:16.680 --> 00:03:21.599 a better player, put himself in position to go back to the Combine and 55 00:03:21.639 --> 00:03:23.960 get that invite this year. And then when he went to the invite this 56 00:03:24.039 --> 00:03:29.400 year, coming off a first team All acc selection and everything he did at 57 00:03:29.400 --> 00:03:35.039 Clemson, he used that and then made his case even stronger up there during 58 00:03:35.039 --> 00:03:38.960 the Combine. And that's why coming out of that combine, everybody's like other 59 00:03:39.039 --> 00:03:43.360 Dyson's gonna get drafted. He heard all the scouts talking about him and everything. 60 00:03:43.400 --> 00:03:46.000 You just knew he was going to get drafted. And sure enough, 61 00:03:46.159 --> 00:03:49.599 you know, the people, the NBA's weird. Some people understand it. 62 00:03:49.759 --> 00:03:53.520 He got drafted by Oklahoma cit but the NBA does not start it's regular his 63 00:03:53.639 --> 00:03:59.199 new year until calendar year until July first, right, right, So as 64 00:03:59.240 --> 00:04:01.520 the trade was can't be approved until it did. Well, I'm just gonna 65 00:04:01.520 --> 00:04:04.199 tell you I didn't know that, and I'd forgotten that, and so I'm 66 00:04:04.280 --> 00:04:08.360 last night trying to write a little tribute tweet because I know Hunter a little 67 00:04:08.360 --> 00:04:11.199 bit and I'm trying to figure out whether the hell is he playing because half 68 00:04:11.199 --> 00:04:14.680 of Twitter's congratulating for Denver and you got Oklahoma City's like, oh, we 69 00:04:14.879 --> 00:04:16.879 drafted him. It's like a Colby Bright situation. So yeah, yeah, 70 00:04:16.879 --> 00:04:21.519 So what happened was, so he's Oklahoma. They did the trade yesterday before 71 00:04:21.519 --> 00:04:28.800 the draft, and so Denver Oklahoma City made the draft, and Denver is 72 00:04:28.839 --> 00:04:31.560 what they they They gave them their selection right and that this is who we 73 00:04:31.600 --> 00:04:33.879 want you to draft, like ordering on door. Dash is like here, 74 00:04:33.920 --> 00:04:38.040 do this for me, right and so, and then it won't be approved 75 00:04:38.120 --> 00:04:42.519 until July first. So that's why he gets drafted by Oklahoma City even though 76 00:04:42.560 --> 00:04:48.360 technically he's going to right. It's so weird because the NBA cannot do it 77 00:04:48.399 --> 00:04:51.399 easy there. I know, I know your boy Richmond up there when he's 78 00:04:51.399 --> 00:04:55.560 there, which he loves to talk the NBA stuff. Well, the NBA, 79 00:04:55.639 --> 00:04:58.879 look, could you do with the NFL does and not do your draft 80 00:04:58.959 --> 00:05:00.519 until you start the news. I'm gonna say, how hard is that? 81 00:05:01.600 --> 00:05:04.759 I said it this morning. Will Vandervoort Clemson SI joins us here he covers 82 00:05:04.759 --> 00:05:08.399 it all for Clemson. He's a big Steelers fan, NFL fan. We're 83 00:05:08.399 --> 00:05:11.720 going to get to that here shortly. Um. I talked about this in 84 00:05:11.800 --> 00:05:16.480 my son this morning. I texted Trey soliloquy on just with a few cuss 85 00:05:16.480 --> 00:05:20.839 words I would assume in my tech saying the draft was unwatchable, And it 86 00:05:20.920 --> 00:05:25.279 wasn't because of the players. I'm proud of all of the man great job. 87 00:05:25.680 --> 00:05:28.160 Victor's gonna be an animal, you know, hopefully you know, Brandon 88 00:05:28.199 --> 00:05:30.720 Miller will be you know what we think he can be. And then you 89 00:05:30.759 --> 00:05:33.399 know, Scoot Henderson, the Twins get drafted. Uh, and then you 90 00:05:33.439 --> 00:05:36.439 know, you get into the middle, like the first round and then the 91 00:05:36.480 --> 00:05:40.959 second round. Some interesting storylines do develop. Of course locally, you know 92 00:05:41.040 --> 00:05:44.160 Jalen Slawson gets drafted. Do we know about Hunter Tyson? And then Gigi 93 00:05:44.279 --> 00:05:47.240 Jackson. But you can't keep up with some of the nuances, like you 94 00:05:47.279 --> 00:05:51.399 said, who's going where? When does the league years start? Why is 95 00:05:53.079 --> 00:05:58.199 one of the colleges for the player tweeting out in Oklahoma City logo behind him 96 00:05:58.279 --> 00:06:00.079 when he's going to Denver? And then will vander were educates us a little 97 00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:03.079 bit. That's why it's the businesses they do need to simplify. Is the 98 00:06:03.199 --> 00:06:08.680 NFL. Look, they own everything. The draft is so superior in so 99 00:06:08.720 --> 00:06:13.000 many ways because they keep people on the hook in the seventh round for guys 100 00:06:13.040 --> 00:06:15.639 that aren't really going to play will and I think I was falling asleep in 101 00:06:15.639 --> 00:06:19.240 the middle of the first round. I really was, you and me both. 102 00:06:19.319 --> 00:06:24.920 And that's that's why the NFL does it so much better, and how 103 00:06:24.959 --> 00:06:30.360 they keep themselves in the news three hundred and sixty five days a year, 104 00:06:30.959 --> 00:06:34.920 and nobody does it better a professional sports wise. And if you're in the 105 00:06:35.000 --> 00:06:40.759 NBA, it's nothing wrong with copy and what the NBA NFL does. No, 106 00:06:40.800 --> 00:06:43.720 there's nothing wrong with the copy it. Make it your own, but 107 00:06:43.800 --> 00:06:46.600 make it work, yeah, you know, but try to do something. 108 00:06:46.600 --> 00:06:49.759 Don't do stupid stuff like that last night where people don't know, I mean 109 00:06:49.800 --> 00:06:53.800 people who don't understand the draft. They're sitting there watching it. They're like 110 00:06:53.839 --> 00:06:57.720 excited, They're like, oh, yeah, what do you mean we did? 111 00:06:58.319 --> 00:07:00.199 Why people on there, I maybe it's trying to figure it out. 112 00:07:00.279 --> 00:07:03.040 I was like, Okay, that's so stupid. Why are you All you're 113 00:07:03.079 --> 00:07:08.399 doing is you're causing your viewers to leave because they're like, I don't want 114 00:07:08.399 --> 00:07:14.319 to watch this. Who's getting my favorite team's city? It is as I'm 115 00:07:14.319 --> 00:07:16.680 gonna tell you, I'm a sports talk host, but I don't claim to 116 00:07:16.759 --> 00:07:20.279 be like I'm gonna pretend I know it all even when I don't. I 117 00:07:20.360 --> 00:07:24.319 was lost. I told Claire Trey Hurley, I was like the meme of 118 00:07:24.319 --> 00:07:27.399 the bear on Facebook that doesn't know how to do algebra with his son, 119 00:07:27.439 --> 00:07:30.399 he's got his hand as well, like boo, I had no idea what's 120 00:07:30.399 --> 00:07:33.920 going on with Hunter Tyson? And I would actually I searched Hunter Tyson's name 121 00:07:33.920 --> 00:07:38.360 on Twitter and there was no clarity from anybody. It's like, if you 122 00:07:38.439 --> 00:07:42.199 know the NBA click, Obviously you don't know what the deal is. Let's 123 00:07:42.240 --> 00:07:44.959 move on here. Okay, So congrats to Hunter Man, great career, 124 00:07:44.959 --> 00:07:46.319 and I look, I just a side note. Maybe you agree, maybe 125 00:07:46.399 --> 00:07:50.439 disagree. I think Brad Brinell deserves some monicam of credit. He's been at 126 00:07:50.439 --> 00:07:54.759 her heat. Hunter comes back and Brad, they got snob. Let's be 127 00:07:54.800 --> 00:07:58.199 honest. From the tournament. But what a great job, a great job 128 00:07:58.199 --> 00:08:01.040 of coaching and leadership, and now you'll be j Hall's back in the building, 129 00:08:01.079 --> 00:08:03.759 So we'll catch up on basketball later a football. Here we go, 130 00:08:05.279 --> 00:08:07.439 Clemson, Let's do it, man, We're like we're getting up on it. 131 00:08:07.480 --> 00:08:09.639 I mean, you know, training camp in the NFL is like thirty 132 00:08:09.720 --> 00:08:13.839 days away almost, and your Steelers will be up there a latrobe and my 133 00:08:13.920 --> 00:08:20.000 Panthers will be right there and Wafers. That's right, you know, Terrey 134 00:08:20.040 --> 00:08:22.360 Falco Steelers fan too. They put y'all to the test a little bit. 135 00:08:22.399 --> 00:08:28.120 Nowtle Steelers trivia. Let's talk Clemson. Let's talk Clemson. Let go well, 136 00:08:28.360 --> 00:08:31.159 you know there's some common threads between Clemson and the Steelers, with your 137 00:08:31.159 --> 00:08:35.519 buddy Levon Kirkland and the many others, Brentson Buckner. Let's talk first about 138 00:08:35.519 --> 00:08:39.799 Clemson. You know, it's been a recruiting like hotbed the past few weeks. 139 00:08:39.799 --> 00:08:43.320 Every time I turn on the Twitter, I see, oh boy, 140 00:08:43.919 --> 00:08:48.240 either you know, James Haynes or Grisham's tweeting out something. They've had a 141 00:08:48.360 --> 00:08:50.759 nice few weeks, there have they not? They have, They've had a 142 00:08:50.799 --> 00:08:56.120 really good few weeks. And it's not surprising because Dabo, you know, 143 00:08:56.360 --> 00:09:01.480 he builds, He builds through recruiting, through high school recruiting. I know 144 00:09:01.559 --> 00:09:05.559 some people, And I guess you might ask me about Florida staun A. 145 00:09:05.559 --> 00:09:09.840 While they live off the other side, they lift off portal recruiting, right 146 00:09:09.919 --> 00:09:13.879 and that's what they do. But Clenson's all about you know, you know, 147 00:09:13.240 --> 00:09:16.399 that was all about building relationship with kids and building the foundation of this 148 00:09:16.519 --> 00:09:22.279 program through high school recruiting and um, you know, developing players and getting 149 00:09:22.279 --> 00:09:26.840 them to where they want to be. And they've just had the last couple 150 00:09:26.879 --> 00:09:28.240 of weeks. Man, they're killing it right now. They've got the number 151 00:09:28.519 --> 00:09:35.200 what number four recruiting class according to two four seven composite in the country right 152 00:09:35.240 --> 00:09:37.960 now. They signed one five star already and they got like, I think 153 00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:41.720 four or five four stars in there. Um, I think they're up getting 154 00:09:41.720 --> 00:09:45.919 close to commitments. I'm not one hundred sure what that number is, but 155 00:09:46.000 --> 00:09:48.960 I know it's getting pretty high and it's going to continue to rise from everything 156 00:09:50.000 --> 00:09:54.480 we've been told here over the next few weeks. So they're still blazing, 157 00:09:54.519 --> 00:09:56.559 man, They're still they're still going after getting some of the best players in 158 00:09:56.559 --> 00:10:01.120 the country. They are will Vandervoort all Clemson Tigers dot Com. Has your 159 00:10:01.200 --> 00:10:05.320 job become harder? In that regard? I found mine has with all the 160 00:10:05.440 --> 00:10:09.279 dynamics with an il portal and of course the traditional recruiting. There's so many 161 00:10:09.320 --> 00:10:13.200 moving parts and maybe it's a challenge that you welcome. But like your perspective 162 00:10:13.279 --> 00:10:16.840 is a guy who has been a beat writer for this program for a long 163 00:10:16.879 --> 00:10:20.759 time. It's a different element covering these stories now because you have to look 164 00:10:20.799 --> 00:10:24.639 at the Dabo Sweeney you know, prism in which he looks through it. 165 00:10:24.639 --> 00:10:28.399 It's like more recruiting, a little less of the portal. I'll ask you 166 00:10:28.480 --> 00:10:31.519 this too. Do you think Dabo is sort of doing a slow ramp up 167 00:10:31.559 --> 00:10:35.200 into that to where he'll meet the standard of others out there that are in 168 00:10:35.240 --> 00:10:37.799 the portal, not adon Sanders level. But is he going to wrap up 169 00:10:37.799 --> 00:10:41.519 into it or is he very comfortable with their approach right now? And that's 170 00:10:41.559 --> 00:10:43.679 kind of the way it's going to be. They're very comfortable with the approach 171 00:10:43.759 --> 00:10:48.279 right now, and I think that helps them a lot on the recruiting trail 172 00:10:48.360 --> 00:10:54.879 because the coaches they're building relationships with at the high school level, they're they're 173 00:10:54.919 --> 00:10:58.919 they're getting they're even gaining more trust than they already have because it's a big 174 00:11:00.159 --> 00:11:03.480 deal right now. The high school ranks, because what's happening is a lot 175 00:11:03.519 --> 00:11:09.120 of the schools, such as Florida's State and all that they're building their programs 176 00:11:09.120 --> 00:11:13.200 from the transfer portal, and so they're kind of taking away a lot of 177 00:11:13.240 --> 00:11:18.480 those relationships on the high school side, if you will. And so you're 178 00:11:18.519 --> 00:11:22.600 seeing a lot of high school kids that maybe would have signed and gotten a 179 00:11:22.679 --> 00:11:28.240 chance with Florida's State a few years ago are now having to go to maybe 180 00:11:28.320 --> 00:11:33.960 a Group of five school or a FCS school to try to develop and then 181 00:11:33.039 --> 00:11:37.879 transfer. So what's happening is is causing the coaches at the high school level 182 00:11:37.879 --> 00:11:41.279 to stay. Look, you know people aren't coming to us, but you 183 00:11:41.360 --> 00:11:46.279 know the Clemsons, maybe in Alabama, high State in Georgia are still doing 184 00:11:46.320 --> 00:11:50.399 their high school recruiting like they normally do, and those are the schools they're 185 00:11:50.399 --> 00:11:54.000 building better relationships with. And I think that beneficial with Clemson when you look 186 00:11:54.000 --> 00:11:56.679 at it from the high school side of things. And I know fans want 187 00:11:56.679 --> 00:12:00.960 Clemson to get that quick fixed, and they want that you know, transfer 188 00:12:01.039 --> 00:12:03.279 portal wide receiver that they've been wanting for so long and all. What they 189 00:12:03.279 --> 00:12:09.399 don't understand there's a risk reward there because you're getting a kid that there's a 190 00:12:09.440 --> 00:12:11.919 reason why he's leaving that school. Ye, and you got to think about 191 00:12:11.960 --> 00:12:16.519 that and there and so what's going to happen when times come tough in the 192 00:12:16.519 --> 00:12:18.720 crunch moment of a game and you got to have a guy you can count 193 00:12:18.759 --> 00:12:22.159 and make a play and say it's one of them. Now, you know, 194 00:12:22.440 --> 00:12:26.200 for every Joe Burrow, there's five or six guys that didn't make it. 195 00:12:28.039 --> 00:12:30.639 Now, Joe Burrow is an exception to the rule because he didn't leave 196 00:12:30.639 --> 00:12:33.960 because he hated Ohio State or anything like that. He left because he wanted 197 00:12:35.000 --> 00:12:37.279 to play and he saw that that's probably wasn't gonna happen with just fills there 198 00:12:37.600 --> 00:12:41.759 at Ohio State. It's a totally different situation than what most of these kids 199 00:12:41.759 --> 00:12:45.840 go into the portals do. Yes, it's playing time, but there's also 200 00:12:45.879 --> 00:12:48.279 other reasons and other factors too that gotta be that you got to understand. 201 00:12:48.320 --> 00:12:52.159 And also, each kid is different than trans reportal. Each have their own 202 00:12:52.159 --> 00:12:56.240 story and there's a reason why they went in there, and sometimes it maybe 203 00:12:56.320 --> 00:13:01.240 doesn't fit the school they're going to go to, and sometimes there may be 204 00:13:01.320 --> 00:13:05.039 certain circumstances. So there's something too getting a kid. In my opinion, 205 00:13:05.080 --> 00:13:09.320 I'm with Dabo on this, getting a kid out of high school and building 206 00:13:09.399 --> 00:13:13.159 him and making him into not only a better player, but a better young 207 00:13:13.200 --> 00:13:18.080 man as well, and building that confidence. And they're developing them into where 208 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:20.080 they're getting the best they can out of them. I think there's something to 209 00:13:20.240 --> 00:13:24.720 that. To me, it's steel how a foundation of a program should be 210 00:13:24.720 --> 00:13:28.120 built well well as you know, And I'm not, you know, caping 211 00:13:28.120 --> 00:13:31.000 for any coach here. I just I know all these guys, we all 212 00:13:31.039 --> 00:13:33.440 Shane and Dabbo and how they operate. And you know the other guys out 213 00:13:33.440 --> 00:13:37.200 there too is good, Kirby Smart and Nick Saban. They each have their 214 00:13:37.240 --> 00:13:39.799 own philosophy. I can tell you this and you'll probably back me up. 215 00:13:39.799 --> 00:13:43.759 You know Dabbo a little better than I do. He's not gonna settle if 216 00:13:43.759 --> 00:13:48.600 it comes to it, he will exercise what's available out there. But my 217 00:13:48.679 --> 00:13:52.919 perspective on this, and maybe I'm miscategorizing Dabo's perspective, and I certainly don't 218 00:13:52.919 --> 00:13:56.120 want to do that. But stay with what got you here, Stay true 219 00:13:56.159 --> 00:13:58.759 to your core principles if it keeps working, and then tap into it as 220 00:13:58.799 --> 00:14:03.360 you go, so you're not just diving in and gorging at the gates. 221 00:14:03.639 --> 00:14:07.039 You don't need to. You've built up somewhat equity overall with the program. 222 00:14:07.080 --> 00:14:09.919 It's a well known brand. Keep working that end of it, and then 223 00:14:09.919 --> 00:14:13.320 you build those relationships, and then when the portal presents an opportunity as it 224 00:14:13.399 --> 00:14:16.159 has, go get it. And I think that's what you're gonna see. 225 00:14:16.200 --> 00:14:20.200 It's gonna be fascinating. You wrote a piece the other day will as we 226 00:14:20.240 --> 00:14:26.519 continue to talk about the very fascinating off season for this Clemson team, kind 227 00:14:26.519 --> 00:14:28.720 of turning the clock back, and I talked about it. Actually, you 228 00:14:28.759 --> 00:14:31.799 helped me out on a day where I had nothing to talk about it. 229 00:14:31.879 --> 00:14:33.840 So I gave you credit for it. And I went through your entire all 230 00:14:33.960 --> 00:14:39.159 Dabbo Sweeney team and I will take I don't take issue with any of it. 231 00:14:39.159 --> 00:14:41.440 It's a great list, and you remember some of these names, like 232 00:14:41.519 --> 00:14:43.000 let me give you a few names for those who didn't see it. You 233 00:14:43.000 --> 00:14:46.039 go to all Clemson Tigers dot com. You remember, like you know, 234 00:14:46.120 --> 00:14:50.159 DeAndre Hopkins, Sammy Watkins were a part of that same group there together. 235 00:14:50.480 --> 00:14:54.559 I watched some highlights of Sammy. He's been kind of in the dark lately. 236 00:14:54.080 --> 00:14:58.919 That guy was amazing. It was that Orange Bowl game with Taj Boyd 237 00:14:58.279 --> 00:15:01.720 where he was just ripping a hole in the defense. Um, yeah, 238 00:15:01.759 --> 00:15:05.879 you forget that. DeAndre was great. T Higgins, you got BT Potterson 239 00:15:07.000 --> 00:15:09.360 love and of course all purpose CJ. Spiller, and then you go to 240 00:15:09.399 --> 00:15:11.679 the defensive side. We all know who the quarterbacks are and all that good 241 00:15:11.679 --> 00:15:16.440 stuff. Although maybe some controversy a quarterback with the Shan Watson. We'll talk 242 00:15:16.440 --> 00:15:18.919 about that in a minute, but just some great names from the past. 243 00:15:20.279 --> 00:15:22.519 Go to all Clemson Tigers dot com and if I will Vandervoort's list here, 244 00:15:24.679 --> 00:15:26.320 what went into that? What inspired you to write that? Because that's it 245 00:15:26.480 --> 00:15:30.480 did a great idea. I run one panther place I've never come up with, 246 00:15:30.519 --> 00:15:33.320 like an old John Fox team. Now I'm inspired, man, well 247 00:15:33.399 --> 00:15:37.679 good, I was just seeing there one day. I was thinking of something 248 00:15:37.759 --> 00:15:41.519 from right that's different. And I call this lift season. Is that a 249 00:15:41.559 --> 00:15:43.879 lot of people bring out the old list and everything, and so you get 250 00:15:43.960 --> 00:15:48.639 lift season, then you got talking season, you get expansion season. We 251 00:15:48.720 --> 00:15:54.120 have to talk our list out on the radio season, right yep. So 252 00:15:54.720 --> 00:15:56.480 we're in lift season. Right now, and so I'm just think it's something 253 00:15:56.519 --> 00:16:00.960 different that nobody's really done. And I think he had. Davo has been 254 00:16:00.000 --> 00:16:04.200 there fourteen years now, um, you know, going on the fifteen season, 255 00:16:04.720 --> 00:16:07.799 you know, and he's had a lot of great players, probably some 256 00:16:07.840 --> 00:16:10.559 of the greatest players in the history of the school, to be honest with 257 00:16:10.600 --> 00:16:12.240 you, and um, you know, it's like, hey, let's do 258 00:16:12.279 --> 00:16:18.159 a list of davos greatest players, not just Clemson's, but Davos greatest players 259 00:16:17.960 --> 00:16:22.759 at Clemson. And so that's kind of what expired inspired it. And you 260 00:16:22.759 --> 00:16:26.759 know, then I just kind of went through each roster um and the good 261 00:16:26.799 --> 00:16:29.759 news, guys, is I can write this on how I saw it because 262 00:16:29.919 --> 00:16:33.200 I covered every single one of these players. You did, I've been covering. 263 00:16:33.320 --> 00:16:36.399 I've been covering Clemson's in two thousand and four. I was there was 264 00:16:36.480 --> 00:16:38.759 a transition from Tommy Bowden the Davo went and so I feel like I got 265 00:16:38.799 --> 00:16:41.279 a pretty good stranglehold on her. You were in the Hatfield there. You're 266 00:16:41.279 --> 00:16:44.639 down there, Ken, You're down there with Ken Hatfield. I believe at 267 00:16:44.639 --> 00:16:48.480 one point, weren't you. I'm not that old now, I mean I'm 268 00:16:48.519 --> 00:16:52.200 not old, but I was in college, so that's a different But some 269 00:16:52.279 --> 00:16:55.440 of the names you mentioned, just real quick. I mean, these were 270 00:16:55.480 --> 00:16:59.879 guys you mentioned that dated back into the last the decade before the last one, 271 00:17:00.320 --> 00:17:04.119 way back when the spiller really was tremendous. And I think the talking 272 00:17:04.160 --> 00:17:08.720 point about Travis Etn, I don't know if there is a more forgotten player 273 00:17:08.759 --> 00:17:12.680 in ACC history than Etn, and I mean that sincerely. Nobody on the 274 00:17:12.759 --> 00:17:18.799 national scale talks about him as probably I would say, you couldn't really make 275 00:17:18.799 --> 00:17:22.400 an argument the greatest running back in that conference's history. I don't have any 276 00:17:22.400 --> 00:17:26.160 doubt about it. He was electric. The numbers say it, yeah he 277 00:17:26.279 --> 00:17:30.799 was. He was Acencies all time leagues rusher, the Agencies all time touchdown 278 00:17:30.880 --> 00:17:36.000 leader. He was a consensus All American his final year at Clempson, three 279 00:17:36.039 --> 00:17:40.119 times first team All American. And then, guys, what people always forget 280 00:17:40.240 --> 00:17:42.799 because you talk about Shaun Watson and Trevor Lawrence and all those guys, he 281 00:17:42.880 --> 00:17:48.920 was a two thousand and eighteen and two thousand nineteen ACC Player of the Year. 282 00:17:48.960 --> 00:17:52.400 Only one of the Clemson players ever done that back to back years, 283 00:17:52.880 --> 00:17:56.279 and that guy's name is Steve four. To get it back in ninteen seventy 284 00:17:56.359 --> 00:18:00.119 seventy eight, So that that is what's the amazing about. I think he's 285 00:18:00.119 --> 00:18:03.279 one of only four in the history of the league to win back to back 286 00:18:03.319 --> 00:18:06.920 Play of the Year or so, You're right. I think he's very underrated. 287 00:18:06.960 --> 00:18:10.720 People won't talk about him enough about what he did not only acc but 288 00:18:10.759 --> 00:18:12.640 what he didn't actionally well as well. You know, I mean back to 289 00:18:12.640 --> 00:18:15.599 back sixteen hundred yards seasons. People forget about that, all right. So 290 00:18:15.720 --> 00:18:21.160 Clemson opens up with Duke on Labor Day. Duke is feeling good. You 291 00:18:21.160 --> 00:18:23.039 know. You hear a lot of buzz up there about the fact that they 292 00:18:23.039 --> 00:18:26.319 are on the rise, and you know, Mike Elko has done a nice 293 00:18:26.440 --> 00:18:29.480 job. If you had a chance to sort of size up where Duke is 294 00:18:29.480 --> 00:18:33.519 in their development and what challenges do they present for this Clemson team going into 295 00:18:33.640 --> 00:18:37.839 a game that's obviously not against Georgia, thank goodness for Clemson fans, but 296 00:18:37.920 --> 00:18:41.200 a tough test on the road, no doubt. Yeah. The good news 297 00:18:41.279 --> 00:18:45.880 for Clemson is that they have a veteran defense coming back, and I think 298 00:18:45.920 --> 00:18:49.880 that's going to vode well for Clemson where they do have some inexperience on the 299 00:18:49.880 --> 00:18:55.519 offensive side of the ball, at wide receiver, at quarterback mainly I knew 300 00:18:55.599 --> 00:18:59.160 less tackle, right, So there's gonna be some inexperience on offense, and 301 00:18:59.200 --> 00:19:02.519 so it's good that they lean on the defense because they're gonna play a Dukee 302 00:19:02.519 --> 00:19:06.319 team that has a very experienced quarterback who I think is one of the top 303 00:19:06.400 --> 00:19:11.839 quarterbacks in the ACC. And they're gonna have to against an offense that m 304 00:19:11.960 --> 00:19:15.599 there's got some big tight ends and the way they play power football and how 305 00:19:15.640 --> 00:19:19.240 they use their quarterback in the in the run game. He's a big kid 306 00:19:19.279 --> 00:19:23.160 that likes to run the ball. This is not gonna be an easy game, 307 00:19:23.200 --> 00:19:26.319 as people thinking, is this Clemson had the better roster, Yes, 308 00:19:27.039 --> 00:19:32.599 but this Duke has a more veteran team. Yes, And I think Clemson 309 00:19:32.680 --> 00:19:37.240 having a veteran off defense, especially as you know, as gonna bode well 310 00:19:37.279 --> 00:19:40.440 considering. Yes, Clemson's got a lot of players coming back an offense too, 311 00:19:41.240 --> 00:19:45.279 But they knew this is only gonna be the second start ever for you 312 00:19:45.319 --> 00:19:48.680 know, for Kate club Nick, and then we don't know what they got 313 00:19:48.680 --> 00:19:52.480 a wide receiver, right, We just don't know. And so it's gonna 314 00:19:52.480 --> 00:19:55.480 be interesting to see what's gonna happen. I mean, Clemson's got the playmakers 315 00:19:55.519 --> 00:19:57.640 and wide receivers, don't get me wrong, but we just haven't seen it. 316 00:19:57.720 --> 00:20:00.359 And so I've got and they're gonna be in for like, oh my 317 00:20:00.400 --> 00:20:03.519 gosh, it's gonna be a battle. I think Clemson should still win by 318 00:20:03.559 --> 00:20:06.680 a couple of touchdowns, but it ain't gonna be easy. People. But 319 00:20:06.920 --> 00:20:11.160 two minutes rules, well, you asked the question. Falco. You're the 320 00:20:11.200 --> 00:20:15.039 Steeler guy. Jesus, I thought you were gonna set it up for me 321 00:20:15.079 --> 00:20:18.640 to ask. I thought you were gonna sec We're transparent. If nothing else, 322 00:20:19.000 --> 00:20:23.039 we we open up our flub outlet to yet say here we are. 323 00:20:25.400 --> 00:20:27.440 Yea. So here's the backstory. Trey Falco and our guest Will Vandervoort, 324 00:20:27.440 --> 00:20:33.079 who covers the Clemson Tigers for all Clemson Tigers, are both rabid Steeler fans. 325 00:20:33.480 --> 00:20:36.079 I told Trey, I said, you know Gena on the mic, 326 00:20:36.119 --> 00:20:37.319 and let's talk a little bit, Like all right, ask him a Stealers 327 00:20:38.480 --> 00:20:44.880 transition. You just stood there with stage fright, so the floorsers in three 328 00:20:44.920 --> 00:20:48.160 minutes or less, ask him a Steelers question. You're like, maw, 329 00:20:48.240 --> 00:20:51.119 they got me all right, So what do you think about Porter Junior? 330 00:20:51.160 --> 00:20:53.839 Because we've seen we've got Broderick, he's been he's obviously been signed today. 331 00:20:53.880 --> 00:20:57.319 Do you think and count Bitton's been signed today, do you think we'll see 332 00:20:57.359 --> 00:21:00.240 Porter as well. I know there's a speculation because it's like he was a 333 00:21:00.279 --> 00:21:03.799 thirty second round or thirty second pick overall, so typically that's a first round 334 00:21:04.160 --> 00:21:07.559 and there's some speculation. Maybe there's some more negotiation going on in that, 335 00:21:07.920 --> 00:21:11.119 I guess in that wheelhouse, Yeah, they want that, they want that 336 00:21:11.160 --> 00:21:15.519 thirty second the first round money, get it. Yeah, you're hitting it 337 00:21:15.720 --> 00:21:18.119 the nail on the head. It's more and he's more of that. He's 338 00:21:18.160 --> 00:21:21.720 more sploted as that number thirty two guy. Te Higgins was the same way 339 00:21:21.720 --> 00:21:25.279 a few years ago, if you remember with the Bengals. And so it's 340 00:21:25.319 --> 00:21:27.440 really he's a he's a first round guy. Yeah, he's gonna get slotted 341 00:21:27.519 --> 00:21:32.480 first round money. It's a way how they're going to negotiate that, and 342 00:21:32.480 --> 00:21:36.759 and it's going to go to how his rookie contract is structure. And that's 343 00:21:36.759 --> 00:21:38.720 why I think it's taken a little bit longer than the other guys. I 344 00:21:38.759 --> 00:21:41.559 think you're definitely going to see him get signed before training camp. That's not 345 00:21:41.599 --> 00:21:45.720 going to be an issue. Should be probably here, I would imagine in 346 00:21:45.720 --> 00:21:48.279 the next week or two before. Don't get that done. And but because 347 00:21:48.359 --> 00:21:52.599 they love him and you know it then obviously because of the daddy and what 348 00:21:52.720 --> 00:21:56.759 a great story man. When he passed in the draft and they passed them 349 00:21:56.759 --> 00:22:00.480 there at number I believe seventeen, yes, team on the draft, I 350 00:22:02.039 --> 00:22:03.839 um, I was just like, we're not gonna get Porter now, you 351 00:22:03.839 --> 00:22:07.039 know. I don't get me wrong. I love I love the pick, 352 00:22:07.200 --> 00:22:12.200 the offensive line pick, because that they need that last year real bad. 353 00:22:12.200 --> 00:22:17.200 That was something they needed. Yeah, so I love that, But I 354 00:22:17.240 --> 00:22:19.160 really wanted them to get Porter. And the Porter get flipped in and slipping 355 00:22:19.200 --> 00:22:22.759 and slipping, and I knew Pittsburgh had that number thirty two picks to start 356 00:22:22.799 --> 00:22:26.480 the next draft, and everybody's like, oh, the Steelers are gonna trade 357 00:22:26.519 --> 00:22:27.720 it. I'm like, Steelers ain't trading that. Yeah, we wanted now 358 00:22:27.759 --> 00:22:30.599 we want a Porter too bad go disciplined by Omar count Look, we got 359 00:22:30.640 --> 00:22:33.559 some uh some fuss here on the phone line. There might be on r 360 00:22:33.640 --> 00:22:37.400 N head it's will Van dervourg Clemson, SI Will. We're not cutting you 361 00:22:37.400 --> 00:22:40.680 off here, just want to wish you all the best. We're gonna talk 362 00:22:40.720 --> 00:22:42.279 to you here in a couple of weeks getting ready football season. He's a 363 00:22:42.279 --> 00:22:45.640 big Steeler fan. He's the best in the business covering the Clemson Tigers. 364 00:22:45.799 --> 00:22:48.039 Thanks well, we'll see you next time.