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UK Radio. Hello, welcome to the

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show. I'm David Young. Once
again, I've got another extra show for

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you. I hope it's not all
too much for you now for this particular

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show, I've got Karen Elfrey making
a second visit to the show, which

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is very welcome. You may have
heard me speaking in the past about the

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Festival of the Unexplained, which I'm
very much looking forward to later this year.

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Well, Karen is one of the
originators of the festival. Without her,

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there wouldn't be one, and they
just seem to be getting better every

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year. So on this special extra
show, let's get right into it,

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and I'm very pleased to welcome back
Karen. They'll pray. Oh, Karen,

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welcome to the show. Hello,
and good evening, if you're right,

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all right? Thank you as Actually
I should say welcome back to the

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show because you were on the show
or just over a year ago, I

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believe it was, and i've met
you since they had again. But I

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know you've been very busy, and
I'm not talking in your normal life.

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I'm talking about in your paranormal life
as well. Oh, lots going on.

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I know it's been a lot going
on. We're all looking forward to

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the Festival of the Unexplained for twenty
twenty four. I mean, would you

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like to outline who the guests are? Maybe you could go through them and

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tell us all their specialties and everything
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So first off, we are very
very fortunate to have these three guests from

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the same TV show. They have
never done a convention in the UK together,

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to be their first time, and
I believe they haven't done a convention

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together even in the States for about
ten years. Oh that's fantastic, isn't

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it. So we have got Dave
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the Holes of Files, brilliant.
I love that show, brilliant. I

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know, I wish they'd bring it
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to happen. Yeah, it's really
sad because there's loads more headsholes of files

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to go through, isn't it.
There's loads of them and touched early,

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sort of touched on, like a
very small faction of them, really,

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I know. So that we've got
the three of them joining us this year,

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obviously those who don't know. We
had Dave with us last year,

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but this year we've been fortunate enough
to get Shane and Cindy on board as

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well. Brilliant. We've also got
Danny moss Is coming back from demand from

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my Haunted hotel and now also my
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are we not mantioned haunted manner?
I should say held up with Darryl.

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Wasn't he who was over here?
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festival last year and we took Daryl
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myself and Rachel with Daryl there,
and now Daryl is in charge of my

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Haunted manner over in the US.
Yes's brilliant and obviously Danny has just released

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his Paranormal Investigator show that he's doing
himself as well, so we've got him

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coming back this year. We've also
got Neil Stories coming back because him and

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Dave are doing the Mysterious Adventure Tours
a group of Americans again. They are

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yep, that is correct, they
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also got Daniel Class from the Hinsdale
House and also from Death Walker and Ghost

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Finders and lots of the TV shows
he's been on. He wanted to come

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up. He couldn't make it last
year, which was very sad, but

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it's great to see that he's coming
back this year. Yeah, so he's

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coming back this year, so he's
joining us. We've also got the wonderful

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Penny Griffith Morgan our resident historian now
because this is she's coming back yet again

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this year to I know, bless
her. She's probably fed up of first,

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I should think by now. So
yeah, so she's coming back again

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this year as well. So those
are those are our returning guests. We've

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all also got doctor Kate Cheryl.
She's joining us this year as well,

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so she's going to have some interesting
things to talk to us about as well.

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And then we have Lordes Gonzales and
Ron Jacovetti from the US which have

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developed the static on YEA fascinating,
it's wow, it's I cannot wait for

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them to bring that piece of equipment
over here because it's the only one in

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existence and we're all going to get
to witness it firsthand over here in the

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UK, which is going to be
amazing. They both are so knowledgeable about

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the paranormal and obviously their device they
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that. That's going to be It's
blown my mind already because they have They

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have done some live recordings where Ron
was asking, he was saying the names

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of the speakers over here, and
the static arm did come back, while

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spirit came back, I should say, because it's sort of on white noise,

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so there's no radio frequencies or anything
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come back with Danny Moss. I
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He actually said me that recording.
I couldn't believe it. Danny Moss

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in England and the fact that he
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mind literally. So yeah, so
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the static arm here in the UK, and it's the only convention in the

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UK that's going to have it this
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that, we have got Dan Sprague
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Those guys are more known for their
TikTok investigations, live investigations they do.

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They've done so many different investigations in
the UK, They've been over and done

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so many locations in America. It's
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Yeah, I didn't too much.
I didn't know too much about them,

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and I think when it was first
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and nobody seems to know what the
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had your two cohorts on here,
Nikki and Rachel, so far, yes

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you have, they had nothing but
good things to say about you. I

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believe you both completely Nazi, of
course, but I'll say that very fondly.

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That's why we all get on.
That's what you're going to hear it

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here first. Also, Ron and
Lord, is that you were just talking

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about. Rod Jacovetti is actually going
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little while, so you'll be hearing
a show from them as well on this

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network, So I'm looking I'm looking
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sure you won't give too much away, you won't spat his trip over,

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but I'll get enough out of him. I'm sure you will. But I'm

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certainly looking for because I mean,
the thing is also we all go out

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through and it's an evening if you're
if you're on that trip, and also

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a day trip on the Friday,
isn't it Yeah, which we don't know

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where we're going. It's another mystery
trip again. There is another mystery history

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tour, magical mystery history tour,
yeah, which I'll try to get out

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of Rachel and Nicky and tell me
one neither of mine, So I expect

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that anyway, but nice try.
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we go to on the Friday.
Is that great? Yeah? So,

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as you were aware, the first
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and then the last year afore we
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we've chosen to do another two location, change it up a bit and do

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two locations again this year. Now
that is the plan. Now the thing

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is, there's a Friday, there's
a there's a Thursday night investigation as well,

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Notingham Galleries of Justice or Halls of
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Yeah justice, Yeah, always getting
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They've changed it a few times,
haven't they they have. Yeah,

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we decided because the last two years
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itself that this year we wanted to
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So we decided to go to alternative
location this year because as much as Bosworth

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is fantastic, we always get something. It would be good for those returning

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guests to get to go and do
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we have got a couple of returning
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to go to a different location as
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be interesting for them. And also
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that? Will they be on that
trip or Cindy? Yes, so that

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will be them. So really that
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an investigation the Goers of Justice,
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It's going to be like being in
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I just yeah, I'm that little
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can't imagine it, can you.
It's it's fantastic. That's that's my hard

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light of the year. I know
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it's I think it's been a medium
myself. The fact that I'm going

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to get to meet and work with
Cindy is an honor. Yeah, anywhere

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could describe it is an honor to
work with all of them, to get

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me wrong, but because we do
the same thing, it's for me,

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it's like mind blowing that I'm going
to get to work with this incredible medium

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that I've seen on the TV for
these years and aspired to. To actually

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finally get to meet her and work
with her, I just wow. Yeah,

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she's very highly thought. You know. Well, for last year twenty

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twenty three, a lot of people
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and saying or they'd love to get
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with Shane and hopefully do a new
series. But did he did he at

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that time know there was talk about
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he didn't know anything about it.
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but you must have been in negotiations
with them that we myself, Rachel,

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Nikki and Gemma are very good at
being very secretive. I know you

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are, so we don't tell it. So basically until all of the speakers

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are confirmed and everything else. Then
what we do is, because we're so

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kind to them, we throw them
all into a Facebook and then they all

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find out who each other is in
that chat. Ah. That that's how

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we do it, so everyone finds
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yeah, it's brilliant. I know. The way you do it is it's

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actually very very crafty, but it
works anywhere. And it also means they

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all get to chat to each other. Those that don't know each other,

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they all get to speak to each
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the time the convention comes around,
they all feel like they know each other

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already anyway, which is good for
all of them, especially those ones coming

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from the US. You know,
they some of them are already part of

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the festival family, but some of
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of the family and everyone gets to
know each other first. Yeah. Absolutely.

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won't it. It would be yeah, yeah, brilliant. I don't

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know if you want to talk a
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asked the I asked Nicki and Rachel
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about the Fest of the Unexplained twenty
twenty three. What was I know it's

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very difficult to pinpoint it, but
what do you think it was your favorite

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part of it? Blind me?
I know it's a difficult question as it

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was all good. That's the trouble. It was all good, not favorite

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part, but for me I did. I did my mental health talk on

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the Sunday, which was a massive
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be aware at that the reason I
chose to do it obviously, it's because

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of personal experiences and everything else and
everyone you know everyone, but you know,

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personal things that have gone in the
last couple of years. But what

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people wouldn't have been aware of was
actually at that time I was signed off

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work with my mental health and had
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it publicly known, and that is
why I chose to do the mental health

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talk on the Sunday and actually be
open and honest and say, well,

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actually, guys, you know I've
not been at work since June. It's

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now September, and this is what's
been going on, and this is what

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it's led to in what's So for
me, I think it was doing that

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and actually opening up being honest and
truthful were people, and some of those

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people were even my family members,
and even they weren't aware of some of

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the things I talked about, and
it was the first time they were hearing

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about it was when I did my
talk at the convention. So that was

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a bit eye opening and a bit
frightening for them to be hearing what I

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was talking about. And you know, I've been open about that, they

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weren't even aware of it. And
then my nearest and dearest because I kept

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it even quiet from them. So
for me, I think it was that.

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And it's because not just about talking
about myself in person experiences. It

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was also the fact that it gave
other people an opportunity to raise the handle.

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Not when I said, have you
experienced this? Do you know someone

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that's experienced this? You know?
And so other people actually spoke publicly in

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that room about their own person experiences, and they said that if I hadn't

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have done what I did, and
I hadn't have stood up there and you

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know, be brave. So people
think they wouldn't have actually spoken up either,

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and it gave them the opportunity in
a closed space to actually speak up

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to and talk about their own person
experiences. And a couple of those people

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have never actually talked talked to anyone. Yeah, you brought them out of

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the shield basically. Yeah, and
they said, you know, thank you

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for doing it, because we never
would have I never would have told anyone

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otherwise. Yeah. So yeah,
that was probably a little bit of a

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highlight for me because that was towards
where I was. That was very personal

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sort of in case it doesn't know
what you're talking about, maybe just you

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very sadly lost your husband, you
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you're talking about. Basically, it was

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the mental anguish that you were going
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gave a talk about it, basically
what you were going through. Yeah,

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I talked about. Yeah, I
didn't talk about what any of that doesn't

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know. Festival didn't explained was actually
originally company was actually owned by myself and

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Eddie. We set it with.
It was our company, we set it

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up, and he he was with
me for the first convention. He was

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a massive part of that. He
was a massive part of all the online

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conventions we did prior to all of
that. And so, you know,

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I wanted to because we raised money
for Calm during Lockdown for the as you're

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aware, the online conventions we did, and what people weren't aware is obviously

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and he was suffering with his mental
health at that time. And you know,

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as we said, he ended his
own life in twenty twenty two prior

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to the convention and everything. But
then, obviously I've suffled my mental health

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since I was a teenager, on
and off, and obviously with circumstances,

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it triggered a lot of things for
me. So yeah, So from personal

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experiences I taught, I stood up
and I talked about my not about him

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so much, but about my own
personal struggles with my mental health in everything

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else, in how difficult it is
to get the important help and waiting list

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and everything else, in you know, letting people know that as much as

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it doesn't matter who you are,
you might seem like this crazy, bubbly

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happy excited everything else person I was
on Saturday evening, and a lot of

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people did say to me, you're
very hyperactive and a bit mad and all

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the rest of it, with all
my running around and dancing and everything.

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But everyone saw that side of me
on Saturday evening. But then when people

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came to my talk on the Sunday, they saw a whole different version of

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me, and they saw the raw, I suppose, real version of me

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that I don't put out there to
the public. I think that happens a

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lot actually with someone's going through sort
of some sort of mental anguish, be

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it very serious or not so serious. It's a lot of people cover it

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up by being funny and a bit
like what you've been doing? Really yeah,

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So so yeah, you get you
get the different versions of me as

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you see yourself. You know,
you get the Saturday night Karen that I

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was. Everybody thought I was drunk. I was actually drinking water Saturday night.

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I didn't have one alcoholic drink at
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This is this is the misconception.
Everybody thought that I was so wild

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and hyperacticed because I was actually drinking. No, that's just me. That's

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just how I am when I enjoy
myself. I was actually drinking water on

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the Saturday night. So when everyone
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oh, you must have a horrendous
hangover, how you're feeling that vodka drinking,

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yeah, I was like, actually, I was sober. I didn't

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have one alcoholic drink on Saturday at
all, I believe it or not.

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Ye, the girls can back me
up. Yeah I think they were.

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But so you no, I don't
know. But anyway, how you are,

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you feel a lot better than yourself
now? Yeah, much better,

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much better now, A much better
place than I was back then. That's

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good. So yeah, everything you
know? So I was on the up

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day by day. No, two
days are the same. No, oh

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that's good. You can only go
upwards. Cuntly, You've got to not

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let these things destroy you. But
anyway, we won't well on that.

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But we're so looking forward to twenty
twenty four. Anyway. I guess when

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you mentioned talking to Cindy about your
own mediumship, I haven't actually experienced your

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mediumship bit. I mean, even
though I've been to a couple of your

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festivals and we're coming to the third
one. Are you going to give any

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demonstrations of your own mediumship or if
you've already done it, I've just missed

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it. No, I never have
and I never will. Oh right?

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Why why is that? The only
reason being is is because with the Convention

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we do all the hard work and
we do everything else to put it together

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and to make sure everything runs as
smooth as possible over the weekend. And

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for me, the same as Jem
and Nikki and Rachel, our priority is

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to look after all of our paying
guests and to look after our speakers and

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make sure everybody has everything they need
and everything runs as it should. And

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it's also giving a platform to you
know, all of our speakers, our

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exhibitors and everything else. It's it's
about them, not about us, right,

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and what we do I can understand
that. Yeah, So and get

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and I get to get and I
get to sit there and watch this incredible

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woman do a gallery reading for us
on the Friday evening. Who wants to

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come and see Karen Fray psychic medium
from the Midlands when they can go and

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see Cindy Casor from the using No, no, don't down yourself, because

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I think that's that's not really fear
doing that because you know, because I'm

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sure you're just You're probably just as
good. It's just that you don't put

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it out there. No, I
don't know, not as much as I

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should. In this year because things
are on the up this year, I

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will be putting myself out there more, and I do want to warn readings.

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I do platform medium ship nights,
psychic suppers, I do online readings,

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you know. I do go to
people into their homes and whatever and

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do events for other people. I
am actually guest medium for the Boo Brothers

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ladies. I'm actually doing an event
for them next month on their guest medium

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on their weekend investigations that they're doing. They're doing a whole weekend and I've

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been invited along as guest medium.
So I'm actually putting myself out there again.

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Are their tickets available for that still? If you want, you could

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advertise it there for them? Oh
yeah, yeah, I think they've got

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a I'm not sure how many've got
left, but yeah. It is a

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weekend in Wales, two locations,
one Friday, one Saturday, bed and

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breakfast and everything. It's and it's
the Boo Brothers. So if you go

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on to Facebook and you research them. You will find them on there and

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there's a link on there for you
to be able to get tickets. I've

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also got on my Karen Fray Psychic
Medium Facebook page. There is a link

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on there also if anybody is interested
in attending that. I actually put a

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link on the prayer Leble Dimensions pages
all Facebook as well. Thank you.

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They have the boom not boob boos
as in boob. Yeah, it's Sarah

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and Lynn that has come to the
last two inventions, right, Okay to

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scripting it down so I don't forget
myself. That's brilliant. So with your

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mediumship, Karen, can you actually
can you turn it on and off?

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I mean when you're when you're at
these events and you're not actually doing readings

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for anybody, but are you actually
just visualizing stuff? It's stuff coming through

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to you all the time. I
when I do investigations and things like that

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in Bosworth, I'm quite affiliated with
the spirits there now because I've stayed there

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so many times. It's ridiculous when
I go on investigations, depending who I'm

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going with and who I'm working with, and if I'm there as the medium,

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I will get information and I will
get things. Sometimes I share it,

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sometimes I won't. It depends what
capacity I am at that investigation.

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As So, if I'm on someone
else's investigation and I'm there as a member

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of the pub lick, unless they
ask me, I won't tell them anything,

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right because I choose not to.
Because if I'm there on someone's investigation,

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I'm there as a member of the
public. I'm there like everybody else.

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I'm not there to work. But
if they ask, then I'm more

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than happy to share things with them. But a lot of the time I'll

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keep things to myself and allow the
other people within my group to cooperate things

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for me, so I know about
it, and I'll let them go off

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and they say, oh, well
we got this, and we got this,

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we got that, And I'm like, thank you for that. You

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just cooperated something I picked up on
earlier, but I won't share It's so

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when I go and do when I
go out with Jem and Nikki and Rachel

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the Lost Soul paranormal girls, so
when we go out with I go out

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with them. I don't go out
with them as a medium. I go

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out with them as an investigator because
as much as I love doing the mediumship

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is as much as I am very
fortunate to be able to do it.

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I do like to go out and
I do like to use KIT as well.

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I don't like to just use my
skills then I like to go out

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and use kit and everything else and
learn from other people in how they work.

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What age were you really you discovered
that you were a medium or a

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clear boo? I'd say about four
or five. I had, what I

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thought at that time and an imaginary
friend. Fast forward sixteen seventy years.

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I went for a one to one
reading with somebody and it turned out this

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imagining friend that I thought I had
wasn't an imagining friend at all. She

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was actually a spirit that I was
playing with and sharing my toys with and

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my dolls with and everything else.
Because she came through on this reading and

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has been with me ever since.
And yeah, I kind of that was

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my first thing. And then I
realized, so is she actually a spirit?

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Glad you think? Or s is
just someone? Yeah? So once

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I started developing and realizing it's time
to do something about this and learn how

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to do it properly and to protect
myself and everything else. Yes, so

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she's still around. She's still around, she still helps me and everything else.

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But yeah, when I got into
my teenage years, I realized that

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actually, this isn't normal for everyone. So I kind of shied away from

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it and didn't really do anything about
it. And then as I got a

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bit older, I was like,
actually, you know, I started going

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to church, spiritual church. I
started going to platform events and wander and

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readings and everything else. I was
like, you know what, I can

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do this, and they every time
they're like, you can do this.

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Why are you not standing here talking
to this audience? Why are you sitting

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there? In the amount of times
I used to get told it, and

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I was like, you know what, They're right, It's about time I

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thought myself out. So I did
in my early twenties, and it's stemmed

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from there. Basically, Yeah,
did you get any sort of stage for

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it, go to your front of
an audience? Yes, big time.

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It's still scared of the life out
of me now, I'll be honest.

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I thought, what you may stand
in front of people talking. It's not

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easy, is it? No?
And the thing is I do it,

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and I'm I do do it and
everything now. But I still get my

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moments, you know, I still
get my I still get my moments.

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I did a platform night last year. It was literally a last minute thing.

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They phoned me at two o'clock in
the afternoons, do you free at

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seven? And I was like,
oh what tomorrow? And then I know

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today when it's really sprung on,
you're like that, yeah, yeah,

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okay, then yeah, no problem, I'll do it. And that's what

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transpired for me to start advertising myself
again, setting set up my website and

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everything else. Mm hmm. So
you didn't see that. You didn't see

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that coming? Then sorry, that's
all right. I get it at work

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all the time. You have to
see you know what I like. I'm

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sorry, I've got stupid says of
you. You will always think I'm stupid

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myself. So, I mean,
I know it's got quite a few ghosts

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here, but I mean, how
many would you say there are in all?

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Roughly? Wow? Is there a
lot? Yeah? Obviously you've got

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the Dixes and everything else, which
not obviously, but you know they are

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spoken about quite a bit. But
it was because it's not always been a

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hotel. Obviously, it was a
manor house and it was other things prior

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to that, and obviously It's like
any building, there was always something there

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before on the ground, so it
was always something at some point, you

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know. So there's there's so many
layers there it's ridiculous. This reason being

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I've investigated it. I couldn't tell
you how many times. I've lost count

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how many times. And the reason
I went to Bosworthorn the first place is

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because it was Andy actually, Andy
and Paul from Haunting magazine. Obviously they're

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Haunted Live, and they put a
Halloween investigation and Eddie and I went along

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to that. We bought tickets and
we booked a room and we went along

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to that, and then every time
they did one, we went back again

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and again and again, and we
got something different every time, or we'd

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have the same people come through again, but it'd be more snippets of information

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on top of what we'd had previously, so you could kind of put a

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picture together and a story together.
So I honestly couldn't say how many are

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there that place. Definitely going to
go back and investigate it again at some

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point. I'll tell you one thing, I'm not going back to the same

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room this year. I always have
the same room every time I stay there.

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Children, Yeah, so I always
have the I always have the Norfolk

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Suite, which is the Bridal Suite, which is the most haunted room in

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the hotel, reason being because we
investigate there every time for the festival,

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whereas this year, because we're not
investigating there, I'm actually hopefully and they

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get some sleep and stay in a
different room. That's the plan anyway,

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because I am I'm very well acquainted
with the spirits in that room, and

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I am sick of having missus Dixie
standing over me whilst I sleep every night.

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Is that what happens? Yeah,
So I'm kind of fed up with

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him. I don't really want to
talk to him anymore, to be honest,

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So I'd rather just go and stay
in another room and just hope he

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doesn't follow me. Yeah. Well, do you know any other guests that

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get their experience if they're not if
they're not clear, boy, do they

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as you see? Do you know
of anyone that's seen ghosts or feeling them?

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Yes, there is his daughter.
I can't remember her name now it's

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gone. Penny will slap me,
but yeah, his she's been seen.

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I won't say by who, but
she has been seen in the lounge of

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the room. Of that bedroom,
and there has been other there has been

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mentions of things, but obviously the
hotel don't advertise the fact of it being

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haunted because you know, it's a
wedding venue first and foremost. But I

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am aware of lots of investigations that
have gone on there and different people have

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had experiences in that room. M
hmm. Interesting, I mean, has

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00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:42,239
anyone. I mean, we've had
Rob Thompson, who's a good paypork and

407
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:46,039
medium. He came up with a
couple of different names. Were you aware

408
00:34:46,079 --> 00:34:52,280
of those particular names that he came
up with? To be quite honest,

409
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,000
I can't even remember what names he
came up with. There was a there

410
00:34:55,039 --> 00:34:58,440
was a nurse, I believe.
I can't remember the name. Yes,

411
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:04,360
there's the matron and that's right,
mm hmm. And I think he's come

412
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:09,800
through before when I've been there with
Haunted Live. Yeah, so she has

413
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:14,800
come through previously. It's interesting when
when you get different mediums coming up with

414
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:19,320
the same people that come out,
you know, it's that's actually quite fascinating.

415
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,840
It's actually evidence, isn't it.
Yeah. I mean I would say

416
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,360
I would think that some people out
there who don't actually believe it'll probably just

417
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:30,519
picked up with what somebody else has
done previously. But you know, when

418
00:35:30,519 --> 00:35:32,880
they start coming up with the descriptions
of these people as well, it's not

419
00:35:34,039 --> 00:35:37,000
quite as straightforward as that, is
it. No, not at all,

420
00:35:37,079 --> 00:35:45,519
because obviously he would not have known
that that had happened previously, and this

421
00:35:45,639 --> 00:35:54,679
time around he yeah, he brought
through different things then what he brought through

422
00:35:54,800 --> 00:36:02,199
the time before. M hmm.
So it's interesting. I do find it

423
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:09,360
very interesting watching other medium's work and
what information they get and to see if

424
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:14,960
it corporates the information I've got,
or a snippet of their information adds to

425
00:36:15,039 --> 00:36:22,280
my story or vice versa. Because
I used to work and I don't really

426
00:36:22,599 --> 00:36:24,159
I don't really go out that much. I haven't really got out investigated much

427
00:36:24,199 --> 00:36:28,199
in the last couple of years,
to be honest. But prior to that,

428
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,719
I used to go out a lot
with Gary Fields from our scouse friend,

429
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:36,519
and you're still a lot of investigations
with Joline and Jackson Lockwood as well,

430
00:36:37,679 --> 00:36:45,519
and the three of us together we
would literally we'd put a whole story,

431
00:36:45,639 --> 00:36:51,239
scenario, everything together between the three
of us because we work so well

432
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,280
together that one would give some information
then the other one would continue, and

433
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,920
then the other one could continue,
and then we would actually the three of

434
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,400
us, we'd actually get to the
bottom of the story the by the end

435
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:06,119
of it between us. It's and
that happened the first night I met them

436
00:37:06,119 --> 00:37:09,320
both, and I've never met them
before, and we worked together, that

437
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:15,840
we worked together, and it was
just wow, it's just mind blowing the

438
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:21,639
fact of how well we work together, considering we'd never met before. Obviously,

439
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:25,519
Gary and Joe already knew that they
were friends already. Sure, yeah,

440
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,440
Gary is actually another name or what
to get than this show. Actually

441
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:34,039
at some point, well since since
I've met him, I've actually done a

442
00:37:34,079 --> 00:37:39,519
lot more trance figuration work, and
I've done a lot more channeling as well,

443
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:45,639
really because I wasn't really I could
do it, and I've always been

444
00:37:45,639 --> 00:37:50,440
able to do it, and I
know I can do it, but it

445
00:37:50,679 --> 00:38:00,599
was kind of I didn't really know
how to channel, not channel correctly,

446
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:07,400
but how to make them leave and
you know, how to stop it in

447
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:12,480
the transfiguration where I used to find
a little bit on the frightening side to

448
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,239
it can be, can't it?
You know? I've actually I'm actually experiencing

449
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:22,760
the transfiguration medium and it just blew
my mind. I didn't think I was

450
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,159
going to see anything, and I
think I'm what told you just before.

451
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:31,159
A friend of mine, Frank Willis, is a transfiguration medium and he just

452
00:38:31,199 --> 00:38:34,599
blew out blew our minds when we
see him doing it. You know,

453
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,199
his face changed into like a well
they had the Chinese and isn't the shape

454
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:44,760
we know? Started changing and it
just there were three of us that were

455
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,519
watching it, and we were all
looking at each other saying, now you

456
00:38:46,599 --> 00:38:51,119
see what what I'm seeing, and
you know, it was just amazing,

457
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:57,039
you know, so, yeah,
exactly what you mean by that. But

458
00:38:57,159 --> 00:38:59,320
yeah, now I'm like, I'm
done, totally opposite. I'm like,

459
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:05,079
well that's let do it. Yeah. Can you do transfiguration mediumship as well?

460
00:39:05,679 --> 00:39:10,559
You can? Mm hmm, well
yeah that's I'll tell you. Something

461
00:39:10,639 --> 00:39:14,559
else that used to give me the
creeps a little bit is when you look

462
00:39:14,599 --> 00:39:22,079
into the mirror describe. Yeah.
Well, I was on the investigation once

463
00:39:22,119 --> 00:39:23,599
and somebody said to me, do
you want to sit in front of the

464
00:39:23,639 --> 00:39:27,880
mirror and it's sort of going and
I don't get creeps that. I don't

465
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,800
get the creeps very very often you
know, but this I really didn't want

466
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:36,519
to do it because I thought of
something that have come through. But I

467
00:39:36,519 --> 00:39:39,039
think I should should try it out
one of these days. Yeah, you

468
00:39:39,039 --> 00:39:44,039
should, you can, You should
give it a go because I found out

469
00:39:44,119 --> 00:39:46,559
by accident. Sounds crazy, but
I found it back so that I could

470
00:39:46,599 --> 00:39:52,559
do it because I was actually doing
a one to one reading for for someone

471
00:39:52,719 --> 00:40:01,119
and she just burst into tears and
I was like, oh, are you

472
00:40:01,199 --> 00:40:05,760
okay? And afterwards she said to
me, how did you do that?

473
00:40:07,639 --> 00:40:09,719
I said, what the reading?
I said, giving you the information?

474
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:15,519
You mean? No, she said, how did you look like my husband?

475
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,360
Oh? Well, I said,
sorry. I didn't know what to

476
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,679
say to and and I was like, oh well, sorry, what what?

477
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:23,920
Because I was like dumbfad. I
didn't know what to say to her.

478
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:30,400
And I was like what And she
said, the more you were talking

479
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:37,119
to me, she said, your
mannerisms changed, said, your facial expressions

480
00:40:37,199 --> 00:40:44,079
change, and she said, then
your face and then eventually your facial features

481
00:40:44,159 --> 00:40:49,519
changed, and honestly it was and
then you reached out and you were holding

482
00:40:49,559 --> 00:40:52,280
my hand. I'll never forget.
I don't remember the reading, but I

483
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,920
remember obviously the conversation afterwards. Because
it's always stuck with me ever since.

484
00:40:55,920 --> 00:41:00,360
You held my hand in the way
you held my hand was the way he

485
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,599
held my hand, and she said, and it was the way you were

486
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,039
It was I was talking to him. It was like you weren't even here

487
00:41:08,119 --> 00:41:12,760
anymore. You weren't here. And
she said. The only way I can

488
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:19,519
explain it, she said, is
that you were him. She did everything

489
00:41:19,559 --> 00:41:22,280
about you, your features, your
mannerism, she's like, I said,

490
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:28,360
she said, even your voice completely
changed. You were him, she said,

491
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,119
And I have never experienced that,
she said. I can't thank you

492
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:35,760
enough for it. And I'm so
sorry. I was crying so much,

493
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,239
she said, and sobbing. She's
but it's because I never thought i'd get

494
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:43,119
to see him again. And I
was sat there thinking, oh my blimeing

495
00:41:43,199 --> 00:41:45,559
what I've I been doing to this
poor woman. She's literally I said to

496
00:41:45,559 --> 00:41:49,000
her more than once. You know, I thought i'd asked her if she

497
00:41:49,039 --> 00:41:51,960
wanted to stop, And I said
to Hell, I did ask you if

498
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,440
you wanted to stop a couple of
times. You didn't, But obviously I

499
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:59,480
thought I did, but I didn't. So I wasn't even in the room

500
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,760
physically, I was, but nothing
else. Yeah, I think that's something

501
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:07,840
we've always got to consider. Things
that come through are not well, they're

502
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:13,480
normally not all horror and everything like
that. It's just normal people that have

503
00:42:13,639 --> 00:42:16,159
lived on this on this world,
and they're just coming through just just like

504
00:42:16,199 --> 00:42:21,400
you and me and everybody else.
They're not They're not all demons and evil

505
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:25,000
ghosts and evil spirits and everything.
No, I think you get the impression

506
00:42:25,079 --> 00:42:30,480
sometimes it's something like that's going to
come through, but normally it's just normal

507
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:35,719
people coming back to say hello,
and and it's kind of as basic as

508
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,280
that, isn't it. Yes,
it is. Yeah, it is as

509
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:45,480
basic as that. And it's like, yeah, that was my first experience

510
00:42:45,519 --> 00:42:46,360
of it, and I was like, wow, how how do I not

511
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:55,760
do this in future? So that
made me go back to circle again because

512
00:42:55,800 --> 00:43:00,039
I wanted to learn how not to
do it, or at least stop it

513
00:43:00,119 --> 00:43:09,559
when I wasn't ready. And then
obviously all started again because of mister Fields.

514
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:14,679
I blame him. Yeah, there's
a bit of a characters. And

515
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,840
you've been here a couple of times. I've not really had a conversation with

516
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,840
you, but I've been around when
he's been around, and he's a bit

517
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,360
of a character. I must I
must get I must get to talk to

518
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:29,320
him on the next or maybe before
that. I'll probably get one the show

519
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:34,639
before that. Yeah, you're after
he's a good guy. Yeah, he's

520
00:43:34,679 --> 00:43:37,480
great. You know, we were
talking about the scrines just now. Yeah,

521
00:43:37,519 --> 00:43:42,079
some people have mentioned that it's like
a portal that you're actually looking into.

522
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,199
It acts like a portal. Is
that the way you see it?

523
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:51,599
See, everyone has their own beliefs. I will be everyone could you know,

524
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:55,280
everyone has their own beliefs. But
I do believe that mirrors do act

525
00:43:55,280 --> 00:44:02,599
as a portal. I generally do
believe that. So you're basically looking into

526
00:44:02,639 --> 00:44:07,800
another dimension through it, or you
can it acts like that? Yeah,

527
00:44:07,079 --> 00:44:13,159
I think it acts. I think
it acts like a portal. That they

528
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,599
can use it as a tool.
Spirit can use it as a tool,

529
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,360
and we're using it as a tool. We're using it as a tool together.

530
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:24,639
The only way I could explain it. Yeah, yeah, that's how

531
00:44:24,679 --> 00:44:28,960
I look at it. Well,
I think it's fascinating because I think that's

532
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,599
why it kind of gave me the
creeps a little bit, because if you

533
00:44:30,679 --> 00:44:35,559
make it, you think you're looking
into another dimension and you never know what's

534
00:44:35,599 --> 00:44:40,360
to come out of it. Yeah, yeah, basically because it could be

535
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,280
Wow, who knows. Yeah,
I mean that's what saying. Even when

536
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:52,159
I would when I saw my friend
doing it, even though it was nothing

537
00:44:52,199 --> 00:44:54,840
evil in it, it just it
just seemed creepy, you know, and

538
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:59,280
to to actually see his face changing, you know, Like I say,

539
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,320
is anyone listening this out there if
you've heard a transfiguration mediumship but think it's

540
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:07,199
all a lot of rubbish. Take
it from Karen and myself. We've seen

541
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,559
it, and Karen's Karen could do
it. I've seen it and it actually

542
00:45:10,599 --> 00:45:19,360
is a true Ethni believe me.
When I used to when I used to

543
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:27,000
work for the Jane and sorry Harris, when I used to work for them,

544
00:45:27,079 --> 00:45:31,639
it's ht paranorl Well. Eddie and
I worked for them. SI is

545
00:45:32,039 --> 00:45:40,840
quite skeptical and because of that we
we used to always have to be running

546
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:49,159
jokes that we used to husband swap
on investigations. No, a husband's swap.

547
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,239
So Eddie would work with Jane and
I would work with Sy because he

548
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:57,480
was kept because of him being a
little bit skeptical. So on one occasion

549
00:45:57,559 --> 00:46:07,039
we went and did the toilets of
all places I think it was in Draco

550
00:46:07,119 --> 00:46:10,840
tunnels. So we had all these
little candles and everything set up in the

551
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:16,559
mirrors and all of that, and
we had the public doing mirror scrying,

552
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:24,480
and let's just say it changed his
perception on mirror scrying and if it was

553
00:46:24,559 --> 00:46:30,000
real or not. Mhmm. I
didn't do it. He didn't do it.

554
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:36,800
We just watched the public do it, and so that changed his perception

555
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,679
on it. Not completely, but
he he found it very interesting. Mm

556
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:49,159
hmm. There's not something he'd experienced
before. Did you get any shocked public

557
00:46:49,199 --> 00:46:52,880
who weren't expecting anything so happened?
Also? Yeah, we had one lady

558
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:59,159
was quite freaked out. Yeah,
so there are going that's another thing that

559
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:05,840
something will happened that you're not expected. No, she didn't think it would

560
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:10,920
actually nothing would happen. And her
partner he was like, he thought it

561
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:19,719
was lett of rubbish until he gave
it a go himself and he was like,

562
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,639
well, he couldn't believe it.
He was he literally could not believe

563
00:47:24,679 --> 00:47:31,360
it because he actually had his own
experience. Yeah. I think the thing

564
00:47:31,519 --> 00:47:36,320
is that you could think that it's
something going on in your own head,

565
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,519
But what the thing is if you've
got people around you today are actually seeing

566
00:47:39,519 --> 00:47:45,679
what's happening as well. Yeah,
you could actually were able to corroborate it,

567
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:50,079
yeah exactly. Yeah, yeah,
it was very fascinating stuff. But

568
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,079
tell you on this on the on
the Festival video explained twenty twenty four,

569
00:47:53,119 --> 00:47:59,639
which is coming up. I don't
know too much about doctor Kate Cheryl was

570
00:47:59,639 --> 00:48:05,159
coming. I know she's putting on
a few TV shows and things, and

571
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:09,039
she's like a paranoral historian. Tell
me a little bit more about her,

572
00:48:09,079 --> 00:48:13,079
because I like to. I'm more
interested to find that was. I know

573
00:48:13,159 --> 00:48:17,079
quite a bit about the other people
as much as you can know. Well,

574
00:48:17,119 --> 00:48:24,559
I originally the first time I spoke
to her was No, that was

575
00:48:24,679 --> 00:48:34,000
during Aaronline conventions, all right,
and I came. I came across like

576
00:48:34,119 --> 00:48:37,760
Burials and Beyond, which is her
website and everything, and she does a

577
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:44,840
blog and all of that as well, and she's she does a podcast and

578
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:51,280
everything as well, and she was
this lady is really interesting. I need

579
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:52,960
to, like, I need to
talk to her. I need to know

580
00:48:52,039 --> 00:48:55,559
who she is and what she does
and you know, and find out more

581
00:48:55,599 --> 00:49:02,159
about her. And since then,
she's been on TV shows and all sorts.

582
00:49:02,679 --> 00:49:08,000
Yeah, she's been on The Unexplainedable
on Camera and Jack Jacksbourne's Haunted,

583
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:13,159
I believe. Yeah, I'm hoping
that I might see her on a few

584
00:49:13,159 --> 00:49:20,159
of the TV shows before actually beat
her on at the festival. I may

585
00:49:20,199 --> 00:49:22,239
want the saial things actually, but
not actually realized it. I guess.

586
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:31,519
Yeah, she's she's very much into
the Victorians and the old ways are doing

587
00:49:31,599 --> 00:49:40,719
things, and she does love a
cemetery and and she's very much into like

588
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:45,599
the death history and all that sort
of thing. So you know, she

589
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:51,599
likes she likes all that side of
things. But like I said, yeah,

590
00:49:51,639 --> 00:49:55,800
she's been on Haunted Homecoming with Jack
Osborne, and she's been on other

591
00:49:55,880 --> 00:50:01,519
TV shows as well, and she
does a podcast and she's writer in She's

592
00:50:01,559 --> 00:50:05,840
a very very interesting lady. Yeah. Yeah, from what I've looked at

593
00:50:06,159 --> 00:50:10,039
since I've sort of saw her name, she does look very interesting actually,

594
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:14,320
So she's coming to the right place
anyway, if she's interested that sort of

595
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:19,519
thing jumping about well, will you
go on your ghost yourself? Do you

596
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,599
what you're talking about? Kit?
What sort of kit you're talking about?

597
00:50:22,639 --> 00:50:30,199
Do you take meters and things?
Oh? Yeah, yeah, so because

598
00:50:30,199 --> 00:50:32,719
I know he used that he used
to make some. Yeah, he made

599
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:43,000
what which lovingly got named the Eddie
Box by Nigel Webster, which is unfortunately

600
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:50,719
alonger with us from Spectra. Yeah, so he he made the Eddie Box,

601
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:55,320
so it was Spirit Radio and he
only ever made seven. It basically

602
00:50:55,400 --> 00:51:01,880
gave him something to do drawing lockdown. So he made seven of those.

603
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:07,320
I have two of them and I
refuse to sell them. All part with

604
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:16,559
them or each one is unique,
They're all different. There's the Willow's team

605
00:51:16,599 --> 00:51:22,239
have got one, Dennis Glen's got
one, Jolene's got one, Nigel had

606
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:34,559
one. He made an individual one
for Lee as well. Lee's got one.

607
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,559
So yeah, there's I think anities
have got one. Off the top

608
00:51:37,559 --> 00:51:42,199
of my head. They're the ones
I can think of. So yeah,

609
00:51:42,199 --> 00:51:45,440
he made seven of them. There's
there's five out there in existence that get

610
00:51:45,599 --> 00:51:51,840
used. I hope still. So
yeah, I do love the Spirit Radio.

611
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,880
I also like using the Ovulus.
I know a lot of people don't.

612
00:51:57,039 --> 00:52:01,360
The only reason I do is because
we've got three and we've I've said

613
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:07,159
it now, we've got a three
and a five. We were lucky enough,

614
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,840
actually, I say we Eddie was
lucky enough to purchase the obvious three

615
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,599
off Barry. Actually it was the
one that was used on the first series

616
00:52:14,599 --> 00:52:20,000
of Mouse Has Haunted, So I
like using the five, but then we

617
00:52:20,079 --> 00:52:22,079
got the three and it was good
to have them both go in to see

618
00:52:22,119 --> 00:52:28,639
if they cooperated each other or it
was just completely random. We have had

619
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,360
a couple of vacasions where they have
corroborated each other and they've come out with

620
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:37,760
the same words, but he's been
very rare it has happened. So from

621
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,320
I'm very skeptical about them, but
I also love using them as well,

622
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:45,239
because I'm also very interested to see
what comes out when you've got them both

623
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:53,280
on together, you know, emf
meters and that sort of thing. We

624
00:52:53,840 --> 00:53:00,320
when we see our investigations. Rather
than using cat balls like a lot of

625
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:06,880
people do, Eddie had the idea
of purchasing autism balls instead because they're much

626
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:12,840
harder to set up. They are
difficult to set off. But they have

627
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:21,880
gone off. Actually that was a
Derby and Richard Felix's place. They all

628
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:27,559
actually went off on the table and
there's this lady didn't believe it. Well,

629
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,199
you know, pick it up,
have a look at it, and

630
00:53:29,199 --> 00:53:32,079
all the rest of it and you
can oh wow, she's you have to

631
00:53:32,159 --> 00:53:36,400
really like be forceful with it,
don't you for it to go off?

632
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,119
And we said, well, yeah, that's why I had the idea of

633
00:53:38,119 --> 00:53:42,719
getting them and using them, because
it's different than a catboard. Then they're

634
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:49,639
not very sensitive at all. And
yeah, all sorts of bits and pieces

635
00:53:49,679 --> 00:53:52,599
I like to use. Oh I
like I like Rachel's flur camera as well.

636
00:53:52,639 --> 00:54:02,440
I like that a VP amazing which
when we meet Ron and Lord,

637
00:54:02,559 --> 00:54:07,360
is that we should get some good
ones from there. I would hope,

638
00:54:07,559 --> 00:54:13,480
Yes, I should. I should
hope to, especially after you know what

639
00:54:13,559 --> 00:54:16,840
they've got already and they're not even
over here yet. It's amazing. We

640
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:21,000
don't know what it's going to be
coming up with during the next few months

641
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:27,800
before before it all kicks off,
well exactly anything would happen when you watch

642
00:54:28,119 --> 00:54:32,719
Do you watch most of the TV
shows I used? Well, if I

643
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:37,639
work the hours I work. Now, I know your your work roat is

644
00:54:37,639 --> 00:54:42,159
not very easy as it well,
I do the rotor, which makes it

645
00:54:42,199 --> 00:54:49,320
worse, But yes I do.
I do as much as I can,

646
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,119
not as much as I used to. You know, I used to watch

647
00:54:52,199 --> 00:54:55,679
all of them years ago. I
have My House is Haunted. I watch

648
00:54:55,719 --> 00:55:02,320
Dead Files, Holes of Files,
Kindred Spirits. You know that. You

649
00:55:04,119 --> 00:55:07,559
literally just watch twenty eight Days Haunted. Oh wow. I think the thing

650
00:55:07,679 --> 00:55:10,079
is, there's so many of that
now. I can't keep up with them.

651
00:55:13,199 --> 00:55:16,239
You know. Obviously, I think
we probably will watch the most popular

652
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:22,440
ones or help my House is Haunted
and all things like that. But I'll

653
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:28,119
just wonder what your opinion of some
of the American ones were. You know,

654
00:55:30,159 --> 00:55:32,960
I like the fact that they are
quite diverse, aren't they. So

655
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,519
you've got the dead files, You've
got you've got the wholes of files.

656
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:44,840
Then you've got like Kindred Spirits.
Everyone works. I'll just like I like

657
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:49,599
to work about and Project Fear because
it's not Destination Fear anymore. And death

658
00:55:49,679 --> 00:55:54,119
Walker, so it's interesting watching it
go out and do his thing. I

659
00:55:54,199 --> 00:55:59,800
just find it and taps it.
You know, all these different I find

660
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:04,760
it really interesting to see how they
all work, because no, they all

661
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:08,800
work quite differently from each other.
Yeah, it's true, you know,

662
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:13,039
you've got they're more versatile as well, because obviously you've got you've got dead

663
00:56:13,079 --> 00:56:20,119
files, you've got wholes of files
in Yeah, you mentioned as I understand

664
00:56:20,199 --> 00:56:24,239
it. They've actually stopped making dead
files, but they or for some reason

665
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:30,360
because I know Cindy started doing the
dead files. Yeah, they're not doing

666
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:34,000
that from what I read and what
I saw on social media that they're not

667
00:56:34,039 --> 00:56:36,599
doing them anymore. No, and
I'm pretty sure. I'm sure it's not

668
00:56:36,639 --> 00:56:40,559
because of Cyndy. I think it's
I think it's just the way it's panned

669
00:56:40,599 --> 00:56:44,880
out that I don't know. Who
knows. There might be different new share

670
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,760
in the pipeline. We don't know. Yeah, I think apparently, I

671
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:52,000
know a network might pick it up
or something. But that's a wait and

672
00:56:52,039 --> 00:56:57,000
see what happens there. Maybe Cyndy
can enlighten when she comes over. Yeah

673
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:02,599
that's wow. If she's allowed.
Well that's the point. Yeah, that's

674
00:57:02,639 --> 00:57:08,519
so. That's the thing there when
they're contracted for all these different things,

675
00:57:08,559 --> 00:57:13,360
so they have to be very careful
what they're allowed to talk about. Yeah.

676
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:20,440
Yeah, but i'd like to think
they bring it back. I'd love

677
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,960
the Holes of Files to come back, so many people would. Actually,

678
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,920
I'm actually going to watch them again. They were so good, you know

679
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:30,360
what I have. There's certain shows
that I have I'm not going to name

680
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:37,000
names. There are certain shows that
I have actually rewatched on many occasions,

681
00:57:37,559 --> 00:57:40,280
like they've finished and I've gone back
a couple of years later and rewatch them

682
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:45,719
all again. Yeah. Well,
I think especially, I think they've got

683
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:50,119
editing interest now because after watching them
and knowing what we're going to meet them

684
00:57:50,119 --> 00:57:52,519
all. Well, hopefully it all
comes off and that it goes wrong,

685
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:58,039
but so we're going to meet them
all later this year, so that's it's

686
00:57:58,079 --> 00:58:01,719
more interesting to see in the show
game, I think. Yeah, I

687
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:07,480
think that's as in when and if
if, but maybe get time then you

688
00:58:07,519 --> 00:58:12,519
know, I would like to go
back and revisit some of the shows that

689
00:58:12,559 --> 00:58:16,920
I've watched before. Yeah, because
then even though you've watched them before,

690
00:58:17,199 --> 00:58:21,960
you're still like, oh wow,
I don't remember that, and there's almost

691
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:27,679
something you're going to pick up one. Yeah, there's always something that you

692
00:58:27,679 --> 00:58:31,440
think, oh wow, old on
a minute, I don't remember that the

693
00:58:31,519 --> 00:58:36,800
first time I watched it, and
you will notice different things. And when

694
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:42,320
the show that The Devil's Purchase was
pretty good as well. Yeah, I

695
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:45,400
have rewatched that. I have watched
that. Have you already? Yeah?

696
00:58:45,639 --> 00:58:52,360
It's very good? Yeah, have
you watch it? And the oh the

697
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,199
Lizzie Board is Lizzie Borden. Yeah, of what, you watched that as

698
00:58:55,239 --> 00:58:59,599
well, So yeah, I do
go back. I have got my I

699
00:58:59,639 --> 00:59:02,440
have got my steaky little favorites.
I like that. I'm like, all

700
00:59:02,519 --> 00:59:06,880
want to go back and rewatch that
because I'm sure there's things that I probably

701
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:08,320
missed the first time around. And
I think there is a lot of the

702
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:14,800
time with a lot of these shows, as much as a lot of them

703
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:16,719
get a lot of stick and they
do get a lot of bad press and

704
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:22,719
whatever else. Also, if you
do go back and rewatch them, it's

705
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:27,599
quite surprising that you do notice things
that you didn't know it's the first time.

706
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:30,840
It's like when you do an investigation
yourself and you and you have evidence

707
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:36,440
and you go back and you well, okay, So Eddie and I and

708
00:59:37,159 --> 00:59:43,519
my routine. Would we get back
from investigation. You'd have a kind of

709
00:59:43,519 --> 00:59:45,880
cider, I'd have a glass of
wine, and we would watch the footage

710
00:59:46,159 --> 00:59:53,159
from the investigation. Yeah, and
then we would then rewatch it. Then

711
00:59:53,199 --> 00:59:57,800
on a Sunday afternoon, we rewatch
it all again to see if we missed

712
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,760
nything the first time. See,
I mean things can be going on that

713
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:06,400
you don't see with your own eyes, isn't it. Yeah, were used

714
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:09,440
to always do that. That was
our kind of that was our investigation routine.

715
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:15,400
And so I do the same with
TV shows. I you know,

716
01:00:15,519 --> 01:00:19,079
after a certain period of time,
I'll go back and rewatch them, because

717
01:00:19,079 --> 01:00:22,360
with those it's exactly the same.
You watch the investigation the first time,

718
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:25,239
but you're noticing that the second time
around you didn't even see the first time

719
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:31,239
around. Yeah, you completely missed. Yeah. I mean, I know

720
01:00:32,039 --> 01:00:36,800
Most Haunty comes in for a bit
of stick sometimes, but I still,

721
01:00:37,159 --> 01:00:38,840
I mean, really, without Most
Haunted, I don't see a lot of

722
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:43,360
these ghost shows will actually be on
the air anyway, because that was the

723
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,920
one that was the one we started
it all. I agree. I totally

724
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:50,800
agree, as much as the most
haught to get a lot of stick for

725
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:54,920
a lot of things over the years, not the rest of it. You

726
01:00:54,960 --> 01:01:00,239
know, if that wasn't a thing, you know, I remember what watching

727
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:04,119
the live. I used to couldn't
wait for the Halloween live they used to

728
01:01:04,119 --> 01:01:08,400
do. You know, I used
to watch all these paranoral shows. That's

729
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:12,199
probably I don't watch it so much
because I used to watch all these paramore

730
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,880
shows from my mum when I lived
at home, and then I watched them

731
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:17,559
all with Eddie, and so I
don't really watch them so much now.

732
01:01:17,559 --> 01:01:22,920
I suppose it's a bit on my
own really, but oh yeah, we

733
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,239
couldn't wait. We used to love
it. My mum and I used to

734
01:01:25,199 --> 01:01:30,760
sit there and we'd stay up and
we'd watch the whole thing, the live

735
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:34,519
show. We used to I used
to love it. We've got loads of

736
01:01:34,599 --> 01:01:37,320
one DVD still. Well, I
think I've got about about fourteen seasons on

737
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:43,280
DVD. But it's like you said, it is true that as much as

738
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:45,360
people give it stick and everything else
and everyone has their opinion on it,

739
01:01:45,719 --> 01:01:52,239
if it wasn't for that show,
then no, there probably wouldn't be as

740
01:01:52,239 --> 01:01:55,119
many shows in the UK as there
is now. I think definitely. Not.

741
01:01:55,239 --> 01:02:00,840
No, that was really the that
was really the touch paper for it,

742
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:05,599
Or wasn't it as much as people
don't like to hear it, it

743
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:09,599
was I that's were children. We
were booked to see the most haunted show

744
01:02:09,639 --> 01:02:15,360
actually in the South End. Oh
yeah, I amazed. Yeah, we've

745
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:20,639
got front row seats as well.
So you boarded it blaming it. That

746
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:23,440
is good. Just before we go
to America. Two days before we go

747
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:27,039
to America. Yeah, or I
started rubbing it in. You're going to

748
01:02:27,159 --> 01:02:32,960
America. You're going to America.
Rachel's going, Pennies going, Everyone's going.

749
01:02:34,199 --> 01:02:38,079
General and Nikki have been. I'm
not jealous in the slightest one bit,

750
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:43,079
to be honest, I've been.
I've been quite so many times.

751
01:02:43,159 --> 01:02:45,320
It's it don't really. I haven't
been for a few years obviously because of

752
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:50,719
all the nonsense that was going on. But we're looking for to go for

753
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:58,760
I've been for seven years now.
It's amazing, well, I do.

754
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:04,039
I was planning on going this year, but obviously things change, life changed

755
01:03:04,119 --> 01:03:08,280
in the last couple of years so
much that it's unfortunately it's not going to

756
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:12,599
be a thing this year. But
you're still young, Ali, You'll you'll

757
01:03:12,599 --> 01:03:19,639
make it still young. I definitely, definitely definitely plan to go next year.

758
01:03:19,719 --> 01:03:28,480
I would love to go and experience
Hara Con one of the trips.

759
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:31,440
Well, I did. Actually,
we did have a chat with Danny last

760
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:36,800
week about the festival. We had
him on and had a chat about the

761
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:39,880
festival. When you know, it's
tripped for America and everything, and I

762
01:03:40,039 --> 01:03:45,440
have invited myself to go with him
when he goes back again. You do

763
01:03:45,559 --> 01:03:50,920
that when the matter happened or not
is well, who knows. But I

764
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:55,000
have invited myself to go with it
because I want to go and see Dan,

765
01:03:55,119 --> 01:04:00,079
and I want to go into the
Hinsdale House obviously, and I'd love

766
01:04:00,159 --> 01:04:05,880
to go and see Chris, Mike
and Brannan because I investigated with them with

767
01:04:06,079 --> 01:04:11,079
the Lost Paranormal Girls. And hopefully
you see Aryl again as well. And

768
01:04:11,119 --> 01:04:15,400
I want to go and see Darrel
again. And you know, there's other

769
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:19,519
people over there that I want to
see again and that obviously still in contact

770
01:04:19,599 --> 01:04:25,079
with and you know, not even
it's not even so much go and investigate

771
01:04:25,119 --> 01:04:27,519
with them, it's just have a
catch up, have a coffee and have

772
01:04:27,559 --> 01:04:30,960
a you know. Yes, like
you say, it's the festivally unexplained family,

773
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:35,639
isn't it? It is? And
I hope I hope that everybody else

774
01:04:35,679 --> 01:04:40,360
sees it, you know that that
does join us sees it like that,

775
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:45,360
because the thing is, as you
know yourself, a lot of our our

776
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:48,280
guests are returning guests, and they
do come back every year and they do

777
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:53,000
support us, even if it's they
only come for the day rather than come

778
01:04:53,039 --> 01:04:58,199
for the weekend or vice versa,
you know, and it's really from myself,

779
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:02,400
Rachel, Nicky and Jammer. It's
so so important to us, you

780
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:06,679
know that everybody has a great time, that everyone's looked after, you know,

781
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:12,880
And it does take a lot of
hard work. It is a lot

782
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:16,920
of man hours woman were women,
but there's a heck of a lot of

783
01:05:17,159 --> 01:05:21,960
woman hours goes into this. Prior
to it, we'd already started organizing this

784
01:05:23,119 --> 01:05:30,280
year is before we'd even done last
year's, So we were already onto it

785
01:05:30,519 --> 01:05:36,599
before we'd even even last year had
even started. Yeah, well, chill

786
01:05:36,679 --> 01:05:41,800
and I feel part of the family
anyway. And I've got the dinner suit

787
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:45,719
ready for this year. Oh brilliant, Yes, this year. Jill's got

788
01:05:45,719 --> 01:05:50,039
an address as well ready for it. So we're sewing up. We're not

789
01:05:50,079 --> 01:05:55,079
towing up in jeans this year.
You're all prepared to me. Last year,

790
01:05:55,199 --> 01:06:02,280
mine was a lot of last minute
ordering online because I had to quickly

791
01:06:02,519 --> 01:06:05,280
order stuff that I didn't have and
realize the girls, have you got this?

792
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:11,000
You got that? I was like, no, do you not think

793
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:16,639
you should not? Like a year? I will do it now and hope

794
01:06:16,679 --> 01:06:20,880
and pray it turns up. Yeah, well that's it. Don't worry if

795
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:24,760
it's the last minute, do you
yeah, because this year it is a

796
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:28,599
red carpet gala. Yeah, that's
what I've got, the dinner suit and

797
01:06:28,639 --> 01:06:32,039
a bow tie. Ye. Danny
was like, I just can I just

798
01:06:32,159 --> 01:06:34,719
dress what I wore last year.
We're like, yes, Danny, you

799
01:06:34,719 --> 01:06:38,480
can wear what you wore last year. As as you speak of the cleaners,

800
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:44,800
Yeah, please ideally, but yeah, we've got the festival awards as

801
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:47,159
well. I'm sure you spoke to
Nicky about that when she was on that's

802
01:06:47,239 --> 01:06:53,440
her domain. Yeah. I don't
know anything, but I don't know much

803
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:59,199
about them. To be honest,
this all being kept secret. You see,

804
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:03,440
I've always been the secret. It
seems just difficult for me because prior

805
01:07:03,519 --> 01:07:10,400
to Nikki general and Rachel becoming part
of the team and Rachel becoming co owner

806
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:16,000
of the company and everything else,
I used to keep seeing secrets from them,

807
01:07:16,039 --> 01:07:20,760
and now I can't. I need
to know everything. But it was

808
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:27,760
like when we interviewed Dave and we
were bringing Dave last year, the first

809
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:30,519
they knew about it was when Dave
popped up at the bottom of stream Yard.

810
01:07:32,679 --> 01:07:39,480
They didn't even know that's who they
were interviewing and chatting and announcing things

811
01:07:39,519 --> 01:07:43,639
like that because that's how I am
basically. But this year they're getting their

812
01:07:43,639 --> 01:07:47,599
own back because they're doing the festival
awards. I'm having no involvement at all

813
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:53,760
with any of it. It's all
Nicky and Jemma, so I'm not involved.

814
01:07:55,159 --> 01:07:58,000
So yeah, it's all a bit
weird for me this year. There's

815
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:02,679
certain things I'm not involved with,
which obviously from the beginning I was involved

816
01:08:02,719 --> 01:08:06,880
in absolutely everything. You're really the
big bossier, so you shouldn't be involved

817
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:14,760
in no, no, no,
no, no, not at all.

818
01:08:15,079 --> 01:08:21,079
You're the king pin. We were
all as equal as each other. Everyone

819
01:08:21,159 --> 01:08:26,920
puts in just as much effort as
everyone else. And you know, I'm

820
01:08:27,039 --> 01:08:32,680
very, very very thankful to them
and for everything they do, because you

821
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:38,920
know, there's a lot of stuff
behind the scenes that they obviously, as

822
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:42,880
you see at the festivals, you
pretty much see myself from Rachel mainly because

823
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:46,680
we do pretty much mostly introductions of
the speakers in all of that type of

824
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:53,399
thing, but nick and Jemmy do
a lot of them behind the scenes things

825
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:59,159
and you know that people don't see
them doing, so you know, I

826
01:08:59,199 --> 01:09:02,880
am very we are very thankful for
both Nicky and jenvor and extremely thankful for

827
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:06,760
Rachel and everything she does to helpen
you know, and we are a team.

828
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:12,359
I did actually saw that to Nicki
actually the last time when she was

829
01:09:12,359 --> 01:09:15,439
on the show, I did say
to her, I think actually quite realized

830
01:09:15,039 --> 01:09:18,399
that she was actually part of the
team because she is a bit sort of

831
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:25,680
under the radar. But of course
I know n Yeah. So last year,

832
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:31,439
nick with the the ballroom and everything, Nicki and my family basically put

833
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:35,920
well, Niki did all the organizing
of all the decorations and everything else.

834
01:09:36,199 --> 01:09:42,439
She ordered everything and she organized all
of that and then on the day,

835
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:47,439
Nicki and my family put it all
together. But well we wrote them and

836
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:54,560
basically blow balloons up. Nicki did
pretty much everything else. Yeah, So

837
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:59,159
that's why we think it's important,
you know, to give credit where credits

838
01:09:59,199 --> 01:10:01,800
due. That they do do a
lot, it's just the fact that it's

839
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:08,039
all behind the scenes stuff and people
don't actually see them doing it. They're

840
01:10:08,079 --> 01:10:11,520
not aware, which is why I
made sure last year that when we renewed

841
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:15,880
the website and everything, that all
of them had a bio and a picture

842
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:18,279
on the website properly, so everyone
knew exactly what they did and who they

843
01:10:18,319 --> 01:10:24,600
were it's really you know, it's
important that everyone knows they are basically working

844
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:30,479
their socks off as well. And
it's not all just myself and Rachel.

845
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:33,600
No, you all work really hard. I know you do. I've got

846
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:39,159
to ask you. Are you actually
you must be in the throes of planning

847
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:45,600
for twenty twenty five, now,
are you? Ermmm not yet? You're

848
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:48,880
not. Yeah, you're not going
to tell me any guests or is that

849
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:53,640
you've got lined up for. I
wouldn't tell you anything. I wouldn't I'd

850
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:58,359
say no even if I wouldn't tell
you anything anyway. That's why I'm asking,

851
01:11:00,039 --> 01:11:02,680
because I don't just to hear that. No, I'm not telling you.

852
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:05,800
No, No, I'm going to
ship myself off to America for six

853
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:10,479
months and no one's going to see
me next year. No, don't do

854
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:15,520
that. In an ideal world,
I would going explore. Yeah, I

855
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:17,720
think you need more than six months. I think you'd need I don't know

856
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:24,560
about sixty years or yeah, chill
the ninety just three months traveler around?

857
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:29,439
Wow? Well no, wow,
I'm going to Maybe I should put myself

858
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:31,399
on to come with you guys.
Yeah, maybe you should. Yeah,

859
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:35,600
No, thanks ever so much.
For tonight. No, no, thank

860
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:38,960
you, thank you for Kevin all, thanks for a foining the time.

861
01:11:40,359 --> 01:11:43,720
It's been great talking to Carol,
and as I said, I'm certainly looking

862
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:47,960
forward to seeing you in September,
which is the nineteenth of September to the

863
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:54,239
twenty second. It is, yeah, Thursday to the Sunday. Are there

864
01:11:54,319 --> 01:12:02,560
still tickets available limp pickings. We
I don't even know that. I don't.

865
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:05,279
Oh, I didn't even that's my
own fart. I should have got

866
01:12:05,279 --> 01:12:09,960
a look. I'm I'm not sure
we actually got any of the ghost unt

867
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:14,199
tickets left, but it will tell
you on the website, so they won't

868
01:12:14,279 --> 01:12:18,960
let you purchase them. The IP
tickets, they are very slim pickens now

869
01:12:20,079 --> 01:12:27,039
as well. But then we also
have the create your own package, so

870
01:12:27,079 --> 01:12:29,680
they create your own packages. If
you just want to do the ghost Hunt,

871
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:31,199
you book a ticket for that.
If you just want to come on

872
01:12:31,239 --> 01:12:35,720
Saturday, data left it, yeah
you can just you can just book that.

873
01:12:36,279 --> 01:12:40,079
If you want to come to the
gallery reading with Cindy on the Friday

874
01:12:40,119 --> 01:12:47,800
evening, you won't have dinner with
all the VIP ticket holders. They get

875
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:53,199
to have dinner with all the speakers, but you can purchase a separate ticket

876
01:12:53,279 --> 01:12:57,039
just to come to the Gallery reading
later in the evening. You can purchase

877
01:12:57,039 --> 01:12:59,920
a ticket to come and join us
at the gala on the Saturday night.

878
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:03,600
You said Friday evening. That is
that Thursday evening. You mean Thursday's the

879
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:12,840
Ghost right, Friday evening is the
Gallery Friday? Yes? Yeah, yeah,

880
01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:15,439
So so you can pick and choose. You can do the Ghost on

881
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:19,520
Thursday, you can, you can
do the galleryed on Friday night. You

882
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:23,479
can have a day ticket for Saturday, or a day take it for Sunday.

883
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:28,800
You could you could purchase to come
to the party, but just be

884
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:31,720
advised that if you do book to
come to the Friday evening or the Saturday

885
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:36,279
evening, your meal is not provided. You are joining us after we've eaten

886
01:13:36,279 --> 01:13:43,920
after dinner fish. The dinners are
for VIPs only. Yeah. Yeah,

887
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:48,119
I've got to say the last meal, it was very very nice. Oh

888
01:13:48,199 --> 01:13:53,159
no, it was very very good. I did really enjoy that. It

889
01:13:53,199 --> 01:14:00,199
was certainly better than the first one. And I'm not everyone was saying us

890
01:14:00,239 --> 01:14:02,520
it was. Yeah, I totally
agree with you. I mean were also

891
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:10,239
I'll actually I can give you a
little exclusive here. Actually we will be

892
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:15,399
for anyone, because we understand that
for a lot of people, they do

893
01:14:17,359 --> 01:14:23,800
their children are interested in all of
this, and I know a lot of

894
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:29,720
people unfortunately have not been able to
attend the day tickets and come join the

895
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:38,680
day previously because of having children in
childcare and whatever else we have, And

896
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:45,439
we will be, we'll be on
the website. We are actually going to

897
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:57,560
do a family day tickets. Obviously, it's parent parental advisory guidance and all

898
01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:00,000
the rest of it because of them. Don't know what's going to be said

899
01:15:00,119 --> 01:15:04,680
in the talks or whatever, so
please just be advised of that. But

900
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:11,119
there will be an age limit obviously. But yes, we are actually going

901
01:15:11,159 --> 01:15:16,399
to distribute a family ticket for those
people that do want to bring their children

902
01:15:16,399 --> 01:15:20,840
to the daytime only. That's good, Yeah, it's quite nice. Actually

903
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:26,199
nice idea. Can we bring out
dogs? You can put your dog in

904
01:15:26,239 --> 01:15:30,319
your room. Dogs are allowed in
your room, not in the hotel,

905
01:15:30,399 --> 01:15:35,640
not around that, not in the
convention itself, unless it is a disability

906
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:38,760
dog. Yeah. No, I
was only joking. We're putting with the

907
01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:45,880
Kennles a breakaway from them, actually
thro the ben Moses right anyway, I

908
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:48,960
guess we better leave it there.
It's been great talking to again, Karen.

909
01:15:49,119 --> 01:15:54,920
And I'll put all the links I
can on the Paranormal Dimensions page.

910
01:15:55,119 --> 01:16:00,600
I'll put all the links on cane
for the festival on there, and well

911
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:03,520
any any information and put on or
put on there. And if you want

912
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:05,880
to send me any leaks or do
you think anything special you like to be

913
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:09,439
put on there, os will do
so okay, yeah, we'll do,

914
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:13,279
thank you right anyway, I'll do
it, Aaron, Thank you very much

915
01:16:13,279 --> 01:16:15,840
for coming on. Karen. Take
care of yourself all right and you ye

916
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:20,239
cheers bye by thanks bye, Yes, there we are. That was Karen

917
01:16:20,319 --> 01:16:24,760
Frey. Take you Karen. Right. Next week we're back on schedule,

918
01:16:25,119 --> 01:16:28,479
so Monday, Marster Falls will be
the next show. And the guest is

919
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:33,279
another ghost hunter and paranormal investigator and
her name is Angie Shelley. Yes,

920
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:39,439
you're another female guest, as has
been commented on its sees this year.

921
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:43,199
So far, I've only had female
guests son, which is fine with me.

922
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:45,560
The only male guest I've had on
this year so far is Nick Kyle,

923
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:49,279
but there are there are male guests
lined up. Don't worry anyway.

924
01:16:49,319 --> 01:16:55,039
That's Marster Force and the guest is
Angie Shelley. Of course, there's always

925
01:16:55,079 --> 01:16:58,960
if you'd like to get in touch
with me before then. My email address

926
01:16:59,079 --> 01:17:02,840
is David Young two q in at
yahoo dot co dot uk. That's David

927
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:09,119
Young to q in at yahoo dot
co dot uk. So until Marster Pulf

928
01:17:09,159 --> 01:17:13,399
that's Monday, of course, as
always with Angie Shelley. Take care everyone

929
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:16,319
and I'll speak to you that well. Bye ah. That's foolish of you

930
01:17:16,399 --> 01:17:23,359
to go where those monsters can lay
hands in your spooky. Paranormal Dimensions is

931
01:17:23,359 --> 01:17:29,079
as bright and powerful as our celestial
starves up and although it's expending thousands of

932
01:17:29,119 --> 01:17:32,760
pounds of energy every minute of the
day, have no fire, There's plenty

933
01:17:32,840 --> 01:18:38,640
left. Paranormal Dimensions is fortnightly on
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