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you Yeah Yeah, Chelly June sixteen, twenty twenty three, allegedly according to

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that thing we call a calendar,
and this is the Friday night call in

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show where we're starting late if you're
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Please don't scream at us, because
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a civil conversation. You can join
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on Skype, but otherwise utilize the
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five zero one six. Are we
gonna have to talk about the indictment tonight?

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Probably, And I've got a few
other things in mind, but and

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was looking actually for sound effects today. I think I'm gonna you guys are

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not sending in too much short attentions
van DJ theater stuff, so I'm gonna

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have to just start to rebuild my
sound library for that because I missed doing

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my DJ shows, but also I
had headaches. I had Internet troubles this

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week, car troubles this week.
I know, Chuck, Is this a

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replay? No, this is not
a replay. We're live on the sixteenth

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day of June, Friday night,
So call in. Three one nine,

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five, two seven, five zero
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over that my co host b Pete
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intentional about this, my throat feels
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host b Pete is with me.
I'm gonna let him do some talking because

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I'm not in the mood to talk
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though I'm gonna be compelled to do
so anyway. Three one nine five two

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seven five zero one six. What
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Pepete? What's going on here?
Do you hear that? Or it's

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just me? I don't know.
You're in one of those spells. I

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guess you're a poet and don't know
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What is that? I don't know? Oh God help us. All

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right, we have one caller on
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to the callers and again join us
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next two hours three one nine,
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you're hearing this live, If not, it's a replay. You can't call

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in. But what's on your mind
tonight, be Pete. Let's start off

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with you with no agenda in my
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don't know. It's been kind of
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work. I'm getting slammed with it, getting warmer and getting more stuff done.

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We're in the middle of a drought, just a bunch of stuff breaking

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loose at once. But I'll try
to keep up with the news this week.

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And apparently we've got the latest in
the uh indictment o rama with Trump.

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Um we had that break, We've
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slash Pride slash alphabet soup front umwee. Well, you know with the whole

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deal about basically some people come out
and told an House of Bush it's gotten

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so bad that finally they had to
put out a press statement to their I

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guess um ticked off fans of bud
light Really when they're trying amends and they

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can go ahead and write that they
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with a different light. Fear get
rid of bud light. It's that bad.

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Well, I don't know why.
You know, they countered pretty well,

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I thought with a prepared you know, it's funny they had it all

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ready to go. Uh this new
new ad campaign that they've saturated everything they

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could with lately, because I'm getting
hit with it and I'm not usually the

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guy picks this up on the algorithms
because I don't drink much, so they

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don't send me beer too often.
But they have been sending out this uh

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you know, Barefoot Girls with country
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good old, down home white trashy
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was out shortly after the whole per
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been out a while. But they've
started a new campaign where you know,

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they're showing shots of America and the
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the pickup truck going down the road
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stuff. But if I'm not mistaken, I'm trying to find where I saw

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the link. They they put out
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the CEO or somebody finally's kind of
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Oh I missed that because you know, I'm just noting that they're saturating the

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airwaves. They probably had multiple ad
camp because an Iserbush usually runs multiple ad

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campaigns just as the default. But
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home, the trucks, the horses, like I said, the barefoot girls

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getting together at some sort of I
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generalized cookout. I mean, certainly
the b roll of well, what has

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it been. It's like the GOP
commercials anymore. Here's my gun, here's

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my truck, here's my beer.
Here I am, I'm gonna go out

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and personally go after immigrants. Oh
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Georgia. They had and uh,
interesting state you live in North Carolina,

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by the way, But yeah,
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his name? Of course, whenever
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they go, yeah, you know, that's Hootie. They still they're

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still doing that to me. You
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it sounds like his songs. What's
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is that it? Yeah, he
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Blowfish. Yeah, everybody they keep
calling him Hootie though that was never his

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name. But yeah, my mom, I was just gotten back from Switzerland

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and I was at my parents helping
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clearing a bunch of brush and woods
land and stuff like that. And come

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up by the house and Mom comes
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She's got her stereo just blasting,
and it's Darius Rucker and it's one of

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the country songs. And she gets
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you young uns and all year allowed. She gets out. I said,

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I didn't know you were a Hoodie
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I said, Hootie. Hoodie said, who is Hoodie? I said,

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Darius Rucker, the guy you got
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had a life at Hoodie and the
Blowfish before he ever put out a country's

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ault. That's even funnier because a
lot of these guys who were like,

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you know, want to convince me
that country music is really great, because

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I like some country, but I'm
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know, put on Merle Haggard.
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on for me? Uh, don't
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put you know, I'm not into
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you know, put it on all
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They Now, Hank william Senior is
rolling around in his grave over the stuff

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that's going out over country radio today. It's a total it's totally. They've

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lost all contact with where they've come
from, the horizon concerned. And I'm

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a big country fan, but that's
always the complaint with country, isn't it

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isn't that constantly the battle. I
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as they started getting a little bit
of popularity in the mainstream, it was

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sort of like, oh, no, country music is not supposed to be

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popular. It's supposed to be you
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the seventies, right, Yeah,
when Glenn Campbell came out with oh what

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was it? Was it Broadway Nights
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we went through that period back late
seventies, early eighties, and then

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it died off. It got back
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you've got hip hop and wrapping everything's
thrown into it so that they can cross

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over to the pop market, you
know. Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift started

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out technically as call a country as
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music was predominantly played on country stations. It wasn't what one album. I

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think on her second she went mainstream
pops. She hadn't looked back since.

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Yeah, So they hope for the
crossover hit that'll get him into another genre.

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And that's what we're seeing now.
I mean, but it's just it's

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gonna happen, and it goes through
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know, whatever's hot pop market will
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cycle through and out and it changes
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remember Shania Twain was the big controversy
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a huge deal because somehow she had
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she didn't, and that would have
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just automatically had she been you know
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you know, and it was like, oh no, no, she's not.

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Oh look she pulled us. Oh
she's a pop artist. I mean,

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it was like a full on revolt. Within was one of the quickest

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um crossover artists her. Uh what
was that song she did? Um something

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woman like a Woman a woman,
Bam bam bam, and she immediately top

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forty you know. So the thing
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mean much like Taylor Swift, well, I guess she was the you know,

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the forebearer. Um she came out
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her stuff would go straight to top
forty radio. It might, it might,

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you know, it might debut on
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Top forty the next day. And
there's been a few artists like that.

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You know, Garth Brooks tried it
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yeah, I mean, you know, people artists have been trying to a

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crossover hit can make her break you
when it comes country music. Yeah,

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so you know they all suit for
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they can. Well. See,
that's why I loved having Blind Joe on

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because you know, generally speaking,
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country. I mean, it's classic
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he does have the influences of various
other genres. You know that he's into

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directly, right, So I don't
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What are you gonna do? So
I'm noting that. Um, I

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don't know. For some reason,
it looks like my microphone is a bit

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odd sound wise. I'm trying to
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have it looks like vance on the
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and get get through our general talk
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and dirty, and God help us
all, we're gonna get stuck talking about

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the indictment Arama you called it,
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the I guess would be better because
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down the line coming, So I
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I do have to mention there was
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apparently was on Fox News slide the
other night they fired a senior producer because

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of the chiron caption that they put
underneath Joe Biden. I guess this was

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the day that Trump surrendered, was
at Tuesday, because once he went and

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was arraigned and they got done,
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and had a rally. This is
a picture of Biden talking in the White

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House and Trump talking at his rally. And they've got the time eight fifty

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nine pm Eastern, you know,
above it, and the chiron says one

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of the dictator speaks at the White
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Nice. That is the greatest moment
in TV right there for some producer to

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have some balls to put that on
this greed, I think it's great.

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Well, yeah, did you know. You know what's more hilarious to me

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than that, though, is that, Um I watched live while that was

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going on. They're following the motorcade
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OJ slow speed chase. Right,
I'm watching that. It's crazy time and

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uh, you know, to me, hilarious because what was going on,

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Well, he goes to this restaurant, this Cuban restaurant in Florida, right,

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and um, yeah, he said, oh, food for everybody.

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Now I saw him say that live
on air. Right. Okay, Well

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he goes, hey, food for
everybody, and then he left. So

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I was thinking that he stuck somebody
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the food nobody moved, and then
I read something about maybe and it's been

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since pulled that he I don't know, order cheeseburgers from somewhere or something.

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And meanwhile, he's at that Cuban
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like ten minutes. He's let people
take selfies with him and stuff. I

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was watching him do it live though
It's not like I'm going on reporting here,

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but it was hilarious to me because
he's like, yeah, food for

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everybody. Yeah, everybody's cheering,
and then he just bails. I thought

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it was hilarious. So you know, what are you gonna do? But

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all this is going on and people
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chase, except in the case of
OJ. I mean, you know,

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that was an actual murderer. So
I don't know any out Let's get to

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Vanced and see what his thoughts are. Maybe he's got something else to talk

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about. I hope, so,
because you have to say, was found

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yeah, and then guilty in the
civil trial of wrongful death. But you

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know, what are you gonna do? Oh? Yeah. Just so we're

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clear, we're not take insides,
we're not editorializing oh I am when you

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know, I am said everybody I
am. I am pretty consum pretty certain.

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You know what. I got a
lot of friends that are like,

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oh, Jay, it was innocent, you know, and I'm like,

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yeah, no, I ain't doing
that, um because you know the well

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don't you believe in the court system. You don't listen to my show?

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I guess no, beause you know, it cuts a lot of different ways

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here, you know, where it's
like, well, don't you think Trump

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is being wrongfully pursued? Maybe,
but I don't care. It doesn't mean

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that I comport with. I don't
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found him this way, so that's
the way it is. Automatically. No,

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I don't you obviously haven't listened to
my show anyway? Work you think

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you know, they think they're they're
just you know, they're just haarrastling them.

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There's really nothing legitimate there. And
I said, well, not necessarily.

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A couple counts might be hard for
him to wiggle his way out of.

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Yeah, And you know, just
because they come after you with nineteen

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counts doesn't mean that three of them
aren't real. You know, I'm just

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saying, you know, your gang
tackle would be seven, but when it

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comes down to it, you plead
guilty to two, the other thirty five

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go out the window right exactly.
But that's just how this game is played.

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Meanwhile, Vance, are you van
stastic tonight? I'm van stastic check.

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Sorry about your starter troubles, but
you know that's not a big fix

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it for you. Hey, look, I was talking about the car before

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we went to air the cars again
off the road and this time because I

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need to replace the starter, but
I'm halfway there. I just can't afford

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to pay the guy to put it
in right this minute. But but I

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do have a starter, so my
god, I may ordered the starter I

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was. I was gonna say,
if you know, you know, normally

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I have you know, friends that
are mechanics, and you know there's usually

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in a local garage mechanic you know
that charge you thirty forty bucks, you

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know tops to do that, and
maybe you know cheaper even but yeah,

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hopefully you can. And I know
you had a back experience with the last

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guy that you did that, so
yeah, you know, I wish I

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was there because I just called it
in there and do it for you.

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I just had to do it on
my dad's bus the other day and in

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one hundred and ten degree weather and
all that, so it ain't fun.

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But it ain't really that big a
deal. I believe me, I would

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let you and and I'm not getting
away with it that cheap here right now,

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I'll tell you. But it used
to be in the old days.

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You know, you could turn around
and get somebody a twelve pack and they'd

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be happy to do something like that
for you. But uh no, not

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now. And the last guy I
tried to work out a little with it

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and we're talking about the cost of
it now it's like in back in the

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seventies, and it's been back that
far since I did it. But there

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used to be a place called bear
manufacturing or remanufacturing, and you take your

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starter in there, give them your
you know, broke when they give you

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a rebuilt when and it was like
twenty five dollars. Oh yeah, I

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cannot even imagine. I can't imagine. And how they can justify all this

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money for a starter, you know
these days, but they're sure doing it.

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I guess that's called inflation. So
yeah, no, definitely inflation.

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And right now, for the record, I mean when I initially just went

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to go, Okay, let's go
to Advanced Auto Parts or a place like

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that. I shopped around a couple
of different places, and what I got

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as well, you know, we
might be able to get that for you

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for about one hundred and fifty dollars
the part maybe. And then it was

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like, you know, between one
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to just get the part. And
I said, yeah, I got to

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shop around a little. I finally
found a way to get it cheaper,

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and I did, and it's a
new one. I got a Brandy news

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starter. It's funny what I got
built with. I don't know if I

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want to talk about it, but
it's hilarious. The name of the company

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that actually build me for this thing
has a funny name, but you know

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it's something that it's hilarious. I'm
not gonna say it, but it sounds

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sexual, let's put it that way. So it was like, what does

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that mean I'm getting screwed here?
I hope not. I got the part

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and it's brand new, and now
I just need to find somebody to pay

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to help me put it in there
because I don't have the stuff. Even

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if I wanted to tempt it myself. Yeah, it stares to what Vance

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said. There's a couple of things
that lead to that. You used to

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could go to certain shops. I
worked for one one time. I moved

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over to Greenville and it started out
of Cox Armature Works. They're not in

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business anymore, but they started out
rebuilding armatures for generators, alternators and starters,

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and to pay these guys to sit
back there at those benches. They

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could tear one apart in a matter
of five minutes, break the thing down,

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start rewire in that armature that's in
there, and have it done.

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And it was the same way Vans
described. You walk in, brought them

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your starter or your alternator, dropped
it off, got one of theirs,

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remanufacturer, walked out the door.
The problem is it's a lost art.

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You know, there's not a lot
of guys out there that know how to

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wire an armature because we've shipped it
overseas and now they've got these ridiculous shipping

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costs tagged on it. You're gonna
prefer a rebuilt You're gonna spend two hundred

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bucks, you know, on average, depending on what spiz car you have.

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So you've got two facts there,
but it is definitely a lost art.

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These guys used to sit in that
shop. There was six of them,

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but they would get and he said
that the only reason they stayed in

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business was for the emergency call.
Someone like Norfolk Shipbuilding has got one of

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these huge generators or you know,
something in their system to power their company

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will send this stuff in for an
emergency repay. And that's where they made

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their big bucks. So you don't
it's it's a lost start because we don't

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have that problem. And everything's been
shipped overseas, so to get it back,

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we got to pay for it,
you know, good old capitalism.

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No, that's the way it works. Yeah, and it's it's like the

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the business model kind of changed too
along with that, you know overseas thing

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and it's built in uh uh you
know, uh. They don't want to

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you know, build things they're gonna
last forever. They want you to buy

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a news so you know that that
they yeah, yeah, yeah, obsolescence

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and so you know, once it's
cheaper to just buy it, send out,

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you know, get it from overseas
than you know, it's ten dollars

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more or whatever to rebuild it here
La La Lah. But then now that

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you know through the all the the
bs that you know, the prices are

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just going up there. You know, a fifteen dollars toaster used to cost

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to cost fifteen dollars at Walmart made
in America. Then they started going to

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China and they were still fifteen dollars, but they were made in China,

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right, you know, So that
you know, they they that that's been

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washed away by the inflation, and
China is getting better and better at manufacturing

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and you know, can can actually
compete, you know, and so that

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you know, here we go with
you know, the the lack of the

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competition is what it is. And
and well, yeah we need to you

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know, the paradigm works like this
man here. It is when you see

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a Walmart come to town, they
come into town and they put everybody out

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of business because of their very reduced
prices. Right, so they come into

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town like gangbusters. Everything is they're
cheap, and you stop caring if it

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came from America or China or whatever, because it's just they're cheap. They

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get in there, they put everybody
out of business. Now, once Walmart

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is the only story left in town, then the prices go up because now

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they have no competition. So this
is what happens with this parts and redoing

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it and everything. Yeah, you
could get it done quick and easy,

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and it was a comparatively same price. But once they said, look,

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don't even bother with rebuilding it,
get a new one. We'll send it

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to a dirt cheap Well, people
went with the cheaper option and it put

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the other guys out of business period. So then now it's time to come

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back around and I've got one hundred
and seventy five dollars starter. I mean

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that that's just what happens is now
that there's no competition for it, they

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can charge what they want plus the
added prices of the shipping and blah blah

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blah. So this is just the
way of the capitalist model in the way

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it flows is eventually, if you
go for only the cheapest options, you

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will wind up with no options,
which means there's no longer a cheaper option.

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So I know that sounds confusing,
but it's true. Okay, so

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we do have other callers. Yeah, well, I was gonna say,

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it's funny how these things change over
time too. You know, we had

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that one time we were a manufacturing
economy. It was American made. We

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were shipping stuff all over the world. We ended up selling our stuff and

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sending it overseas to get it done, and we became a service based economy.

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Now you're starting to see the old
barter system come back, and and

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COVID really helped with that. With
the lockdowns and the business closings and the

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supply chain problems on getting certain products, bartering suddenly became very popular again,

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and businesses started trading out. Okay, I want this from you, give

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you this from me, or I
know this guy that does this, you

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need his service, I'll take care
of that. We'll trade out. Yeah,

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and it started to get bigger and
bigger and victor. So it's amazing

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how little things like that completely changed
the whole economy base for a nation,

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you know, even as big as
us. Yeah, but she wented when

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it comes to the bartering and the
exchanges and all that, and everybody goes,

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oh, that's good, you're getting
back to that. But no,

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it's only a temporary stop gap measure. So we do have another caller on

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the regular phone line, and I'm
going to join somebody else via Skype.

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So let's move the conversation Forward,
Vance, did you have something you want

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to throw on the table though?
I mean, we went with the starters

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there for a minute, but I
want to give you a chance to do

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that before I go to the next
caller, if you don't mind, and

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then let's let's move them along.
Vance, Okay, I was still muted.

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Sorry. You know, basically the
Trump indictments and you know, anything

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that they're putting in the news.
I mean, Jesus Tiens landed in a

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guy's backyard there the day, you
know, right after they you know,

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have a best story about a whistleblower, you know, saying he saw stuff

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he was supposed to see, but
he can't show you because you know it's

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it's puss damn, I miss you
know, it's I missed the ten foot

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aliens. Man, It's what the
hell? Somebody sent me the ten foot

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alien? Yes, Russell Brand even
did a Russell Brand even got a story

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out about it. And it's like, you know, there's I can't believe

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you missed this. But the uh, there's a light you know, shows

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this light falling out of the sky
and supposedly there was an explosion, you

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know, associated with whatever the light
was, you know, crashing, and

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but I didn't hear an explosion in
any video or anything. But anyway,

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then a little while later, these
guys call in and say, there's ten

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foot aliens in our backyard and they
supposedly came from this ship and and apparently

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they don't have phones with video cameras
because they didn't take any pictures of the

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aliens in the backyard. And anyway, I'm just my point was we can

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talk about that more later. But
it's like this all this distraction, you

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know, to keep people you know, busy from you know, and you

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know, not aware of the big
situation it's going on, which you know

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is a whole other story. We
should have a whole show about that.

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But let's get the other color on
the right. Business as usual, So

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let's go to I believe I got
Harlan on the line on the phones,

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and I've also got somebody joined in
by a skype. But Harlan, did

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you see the ten foot aliens?
How you doing and what's on your mind?

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Well, I'm just trying to live
now. I'm not saying any ten

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foot aliens, but I have saying
some shoote stories, you know, burnout

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kind of colts. They explode before
where I say, quite a few of

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them across the Missouri, Kansas and
Colorado. But I've not seen any ten

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foot aliens. I'm not saying any
nukes though and yet. But I've saying

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some weird stuff years ago, but
I've not seen anything lately. True,

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true, Look, although we are
contending with the possibility in news reports that

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nuclear weapons have been dispatched by Putin
and possibly ready to roll in Ukraine if

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things don't break his way, according
to some reporting, just what about an

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hour or two ago I was reading, But forget about the nukes, forget

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about the aliens, forget about it
all because Trump indictment? Right? But

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what else is on your What else
on your mind? Harlan? Well,

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I won't jump in here on Orange
US just for repentant Orange. Is it

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doesn't this last indictment has really got
people, you know, far enough the

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way the Okay, have you noticed
that? Or is it just by just

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not been paying attention? But it
doesn't seem like people has worked up in

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such a fervor of the volume of
the focus. Man, a friend you

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know of mine, we've been talking
last few days, and I told them,

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I said, I said, wonder
what's next to us? Said,

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is it going to get down to
where they're actually gonna beat Hazening or the

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Secret Service and the Federal Marshall's is
gonna be out here like fight fist fighting

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each other? Said, no,
you're not gonna take him, And you

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know at on these few tarts is
gonna be screaming. Oh they set up

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for him. You know, they
saved him. I mean, what snakes

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because it doesn't seem like everybody's really
buying this what it was a few months

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ago. Well, you know what
it is. Uh. One thing you

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can say for Americans, man,
is that you can you can run out

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of slack with him. Eventually they'll
get bored if you run the same thing.

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I mean, you can only run
a TV show so many times before

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they get bored. Right, yeah, so I maytime. Can you say,

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big player, flip over at top
turn buckle and run down hypern before

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you go scratch and hey, yeah, same way. You know this And

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people keep saying this is fake?
Am I be home of something? Orange

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Jesus, I love it Orange.
I I know you've probably said it before,

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but that is beautiful Orange Jesus.
I love lan yeah, go ahead,

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the chosen one, the chosen one, thank you. Oh man,

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I love this that is that is
he said, he was the shows and

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one you know, I'm pointed up
to the sky that's on video. I

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mean you'll find it. Oh man. Orange Jesus pointed to this guy and

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said, I am the chosen one. Uh, somebody make me a cartoon.

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Meanwhile, we got uh, we
got mister Graves on the skype and

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he has joined us live. Also
Graves. Any thoughts on Orange Jesus or

408
00:29:36.000 --> 00:29:41.039
anything else. How you doing,
man, Orange Jesus, Orange Julius,

409
00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:48.640
Trumpty dumpty. I love Harlan.
Harlan's fantastic. He is. And as

410
00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:52.200
for Trump, I've got a cool
question. Oh if I can juff in

411
00:29:52.279 --> 00:29:56.319
here in action, Uh, go
ahead and say what you're gonna say.

412
00:29:56.400 --> 00:30:02.240
But I heard earlier, I don't
some show that you was working on something

413
00:30:02.279 --> 00:30:07.359
big, that she was going to
report on it. He was just getting

414
00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:11.200
everything together, and I really didn't
remember. I think it was last night

415
00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:15.160
when I heard it. I was
listening to the William Ramsey interview. And

416
00:30:15.279 --> 00:30:19.680
you've mentioned something that you was trying
to put something together or to do a

417
00:30:19.799 --> 00:30:25.400
video on some subject, but I
just I missed it or get cut out

418
00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:26.960
of my signal was bad. I
was going to just check to see if

419
00:30:29.160 --> 00:30:34.119
what she was talking about. Yeah, you might be referred to this unibomber

420
00:30:34.240 --> 00:30:37.039
thing. I found a bunch of
stuff on the un Yeah. Yeah,

421
00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:45.119
And now with his timely or untimely
passing, the special should probably happen sooner

422
00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:49.880
rather than later. So I might
be working with my friend Angry Tiger on

423
00:30:49.960 --> 00:30:55.799
that or Peter ccush and just just
trying to figure it all out. But

424
00:30:56.200 --> 00:30:59.640
there's a lot of material there,
and most people don't even remember the unibomber,

425
00:30:59.720 --> 00:31:03.960
so be nice to educate some people. And there were other there were

426
00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:07.480
other people that were suspected as being
a UNI bomber at the time. People

427
00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:11.839
don't really know a lot of that
stuff either. Well, the UNI bomber

428
00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:14.880
is a deep subject. But you
know, for people that are starting to

429
00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:17.519
say, oh, look it's I
don't think that's one of those you know,

430
00:31:17.599 --> 00:31:19.519
convenient deaths or occurred at a certain
time, because I mean, the

431
00:31:19.519 --> 00:31:22.720
guy was eighty one, he sat
in prison for a long time. They

432
00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:26.240
could have killed him a long time
ago. Yeah, so you could be

433
00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:32.000
You're probably right when it comes to
us as old. But you always gonna

434
00:31:32.039 --> 00:31:40.759
say, but what's that I saw
somewhere like the next day that he spoke

435
00:31:40.839 --> 00:31:47.359
skilled Tonga said yeah, they said
that, Yeah, like with Epstein and

436
00:31:47.359 --> 00:31:51.559
then even people like Timothy mcveay,
some people claimed they saw him breathing still.

437
00:31:51.599 --> 00:31:55.079
And you never know. But I
think with this one, like Chuck

438
00:31:55.160 --> 00:31:59.599
was saying, I think Chuck was
getting at is that sometimes. I mean,

439
00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:01.759
if they wanted to get rid of
them, they would have a long

440
00:32:01.880 --> 00:32:06.880
time ago. I feel like,
well, your life skill might be shortened

441
00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:10.440
in prison a little bit, because
you know, you're not living well in

442
00:32:10.559 --> 00:32:15.319
most prisons, despite what some people
think. And the thing is, if

443
00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:19.119
this guy was living mostly in isolation, you know, he sits there for

444
00:32:19.160 --> 00:32:22.759
twenty years or so, and I
don't know how healthy he was to begin

445
00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:25.160
with. But I mean, I'm
just saying a guy to die at eighty

446
00:32:25.160 --> 00:32:28.720
one, it's not like, oh, what a shock, you know.

447
00:32:29.599 --> 00:32:32.440
Yeah, So there might be nothing
really to that, but you know,

448
00:32:32.680 --> 00:32:36.839
you never know. I don't know
they're trying to and now they're trying to

449
00:32:36.839 --> 00:32:39.359
say that he wanted to be transgendered
in the sixties, so they're kind of

450
00:32:39.359 --> 00:32:44.440
trying to tie that in with stuff
going on today. So I don't know.

451
00:32:45.519 --> 00:32:49.960
Yeah, definitely, definitely. And
I was sharing this clip earlier with

452
00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:53.480
friends because of certain arguments that I've
had to have recently about certain subjects.

453
00:32:53.480 --> 00:32:58.319
But I will just play this without
comment. You guys will recognize that,

454
00:32:58.400 --> 00:33:01.920
I'm sure, but I have this
feeling that has evoked through this one particular

455
00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:06.119
cartoon clip, and I'll just play
the audio for you. Nope, sorry,

456
00:33:06.319 --> 00:33:08.759
Kevin Bacon wasn't in Footloose what?
Of course he was? Now he

457
00:33:08.799 --> 00:33:12.079
wasn't you lose? Of course he
was. He was the stunt. No

458
00:33:12.359 --> 00:33:14.359
be wrong, look it up.
I don't have to look it up.

459
00:33:14.359 --> 00:33:17.640
It's a common knowledge. He was
on the cover of No People magazine.

460
00:33:20.799 --> 00:33:28.799
It was a huge movie. No, no, no, no. Wasn't

461
00:33:28.839 --> 00:33:31.119
that Fox News is mantra for a
long time, like just be louder than

462
00:33:31.160 --> 00:33:36.880
everyone. That was a clip from
Family Guy. Actually, uh, And

463
00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:40.279
it's it's great because it just reminds
me what happens when you start talking about

464
00:33:40.359 --> 00:33:45.839
Orange, Jesus and certain other subjects, including Joe Biden by the way,

465
00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:49.799
which is a fascinating one. Uh. You know, because earlier today I

466
00:33:49.839 --> 00:33:54.160
was just I was remarking at his
live speech, um and uh, commenting

467
00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:58.319
to somebody, and he's sitting there
and he's, you know, fumbling through

468
00:33:58.359 --> 00:34:00.880
it, and it's just it's so
pathetic this point. And I'm going,

469
00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:02.720
man, listen to this guy.
All I can all I can see is

470
00:34:02.759 --> 00:34:07.279
what's going on in his head right
now. He's sitting there with Gabby Gifford's

471
00:34:07.559 --> 00:34:09.920
Gabby Gifford, doesn't I said to
myself. You know, all he's thinking

472
00:34:09.960 --> 00:34:13.639
is why don't you let Gabby Gifford
come over here so sucking smell her hair?

473
00:34:14.039 --> 00:34:15.159
You know, she probably won't notice
that much. I mean, she

474
00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:17.280
probably can't feel that part of her
head. Come on, let me have

475
00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:24.199
it, you know. I mean, I'm just saying, this is what

476
00:34:24.239 --> 00:34:29.199
I'm seeing because he's fumbling through everything. They said, Joey, I'll tell

477
00:34:29.239 --> 00:34:31.920
you, Joey. Uh. I
was showing stories about does she even go

478
00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:35.320
around anymore? Yeah, he gets
her. I don't know. He was

479
00:34:35.360 --> 00:34:37.719
mentioning her during the speech. I
was just listening to it and channeling,

480
00:34:37.760 --> 00:34:42.199
but I thought was in his head
and I'm going, but he mentioned her,

481
00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:44.320
and he's like, oh, yeah, Gabby Gifford's here. Yeah,

482
00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:46.760
you know, he's doing his whole
and we should get gun control and a

483
00:34:46.840 --> 00:34:52.679
mumble mumble, and I'm going like
ten years ago, twelve years ago,

484
00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:54.559
but he was. But I'm sitting
there going, yeah, that's that's all

485
00:34:54.599 --> 00:35:00.199
he's thinking is let me let me
smell her hair. Anyway, Um,

486
00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:05.079
it is what it is. But
I just had to play that good for

487
00:35:05.159 --> 00:35:07.480
you though. That was dark.
I like that, very dark, very

488
00:35:07.559 --> 00:35:12.159
dark humor. Sometimes when I get
frustrated with things for a few days and

489
00:35:12.239 --> 00:35:15.480
I've been in a headache stupor for
most of the week. I mean I

490
00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:19.679
graduated from the migraine to the cluster. Uh so between that cluster and the

491
00:35:19.719 --> 00:35:22.519
other cluster with the car and everything
else, which, by the way,

492
00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:25.840
I'll be getting out the swag packages
this week, but they were planned to

493
00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:30.840
go out on Wednesday, but I
can't go anywhere. So both have health

494
00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:35.519
issues and car issues. Isn't it
fun? It's loads upon you. You

495
00:35:35.639 --> 00:35:37.880
and I are somehow psychically connected,
and that's not good. Man. I

496
00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:45.440
apologize. I apologize in a freaking
way. I so apologize for my for

497
00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:49.199
any sort of harm that's being done
to you through your connection to me.

498
00:35:49.320 --> 00:35:53.880
I just really do, because I'm
we're both just cursed individually and we found

499
00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:58.239
each other somehow. It's all my
fault. But we did get some news

500
00:35:58.320 --> 00:36:00.800
on Lancer, by the way,
so a little bit of positive news.

501
00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:05.159
I'm waiting on a room discount,
so hopefully we'll be able to get that

502
00:36:05.280 --> 00:36:07.719
role, and it has been solidified. It's going to be at the Lorenzo

503
00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:13.480
Motel. The hotel excuse me,
in Dallas doesn't mean you got to stay

504
00:36:13.480 --> 00:36:16.480
there if you go. But also
I'm being told that breakout rooms will be

505
00:36:16.519 --> 00:36:22.079
available to the Ochelli contingent, so
we'll be able to have a subconference along

506
00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:29.519
with Lancer if we ever. Regardless, I'm getting myself there. If we

507
00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:31.840
all conspire to get together in Dallas, we're gonna have a lot of fun.

508
00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:37.000
So hopefully you guys will join us
and show up and we'll be able

509
00:36:37.039 --> 00:36:40.960
to pull our money together to afford
a you know, a fifty dollars pizza,

510
00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:45.559
because I'm sure food is going to
be super expensive everything else, so

511
00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:50.719
we'll do our best, right be
Pete. I'm looking forward to that,

512
00:36:50.800 --> 00:36:54.679
by the way, how about you? Yeah, that's yeah. I'm gonna

513
00:36:54.679 --> 00:36:58.239
dig into it and see if we
can go ahead and get some reservations nailed

514
00:36:58.239 --> 00:37:00.320
down now that we've got some info. But yeah, I'm looking forward to

515
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:06.079
it, definitely, Yeah, definitely
so And also I got word from definitely

516
00:37:06.159 --> 00:37:09.880
Mike Swanson is gonna make it there
for sure. So Mike will not be

517
00:37:09.960 --> 00:37:13.559
traveling with us, but he'll be
there. He'll fly in. I got

518
00:37:13.679 --> 00:37:16.760
word from others they're gonna fly in. Somebody else sent me a message,

519
00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:20.920
not going to say who, that
they had to use up their their miles

520
00:37:21.039 --> 00:37:22.239
or something. They had to use
it up by a certain date, so

521
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:27.360
they were booking their flights. Looks
like it's really coming together and it's not

522
00:37:27.400 --> 00:37:29.840
going to be just a bunch of
people talking about going. But we're going.

523
00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:32.559
So if you're gonna meet us in
Dallas, and that's another thing,

524
00:37:32.639 --> 00:37:40.679
vance how far are you from Dallas? Frin, it's like three four hours.

525
00:37:43.159 --> 00:37:45.280
I really, you know, if
my truck would make it, if

526
00:37:45.320 --> 00:37:47.159
I wasn't worried about breaking down on
the way, I'd just drive up there.

527
00:37:47.239 --> 00:37:51.840
But I've been We're just gonna have
to see what my fan aces are,

528
00:37:51.920 --> 00:37:53.519
you know, around that time.
I might figure out a way to

529
00:37:53.559 --> 00:37:57.320
make it up there for the day
or something. Well, I'm hoping you

530
00:37:57.400 --> 00:37:59.840
can. And you know, like
I said, we could all chip in

531
00:37:59.840 --> 00:38:01.639
on a pizza or something. I
mean, you know, get together and

532
00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:06.159
do it. Uh Me. I
think it's gonna be a good time.

533
00:38:06.280 --> 00:38:10.119
And um, I'm definitely gonna travel
with some of the leftover swag and such

534
00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:15.480
when I go. Um, and
we're gonna have to schedule my radio appearances

535
00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:19.480
around then and also figure out how
to broadcast from there. So um,

536
00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:24.159
and I've got the portable broadcast design
set up and the stuff I need to

537
00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:30.000
carry everything, But it's gonna be
me and be Pete Hall and this stuff

538
00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:32.000
from uh well, he's gonna come
to Georgia pick me up. We'll be

539
00:38:32.079 --> 00:38:36.599
on the road and it'll be me
and be Pete with the boxes, the

540
00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:38.719
swag, the broadcast equipment and whatever
it is that we need to have for

541
00:38:38.800 --> 00:38:45.960
suitcases for the weekend. So guaranteed, Me and be Pete will be there.

542
00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:49.800
Hopefully you guys will join us,
some of you. All right,

543
00:38:49.840 --> 00:38:52.239
So all that is, I've had
it. I've had it in the back

544
00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:55.199
of my mind, you know,
think about it. So I'll let you

545
00:38:55.239 --> 00:38:58.679
know if I can do that for
sure, excellent, Well you know I

546
00:38:58.719 --> 00:39:04.840
want that and also another listener in
Texas Creative Accident says he's gonna show up.

547
00:39:05.679 --> 00:39:07.519
Of course that's not his you know, god given name or his parents

548
00:39:07.559 --> 00:39:10.880
given name, but he'll show up
and meet us. He's in Houston,

549
00:39:10.960 --> 00:39:15.280
so he's gonna come over from Houston
to Dallas. Logistically, I always forget

550
00:39:15.320 --> 00:39:20.400
what that's like, but I know
it's a bit of a distance. So

551
00:39:20.760 --> 00:39:24.440
you know we're gonna We're gonna do
this anyway. The swag is going out

552
00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:28.079
this coming week. As soon as
we get the car on the road,

553
00:39:28.079 --> 00:39:30.440
I'll be getting to the post office
and getting those things out. So that's

554
00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:35.119
still going on. Remember none of
that is for sale. Oh by the

555
00:39:35.159 --> 00:39:37.880
way, update on that BPT,
but I'll tell you about it off the

556
00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:39.639
air because I don't want to keep
taking enough time with this on the show

557
00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:46.760
tonight. But the swag is um
it has been interrupted because of communication issues

558
00:39:47.519 --> 00:39:52.320
the stuff I was having made,
but I may be able to restart it

559
00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:55.880
a bit. And uh, we
we do have stuff still in stock that

560
00:39:57.000 --> 00:40:00.159
has not been spoken for. So
if you get your don nations in everybody,

561
00:40:01.320 --> 00:40:06.320
you'll you'll be getting some sort of
swag from a fifty dollars or more

562
00:40:06.360 --> 00:40:09.440
donation, you get to choose a
hat from whichever show you like. I've

563
00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:15.960
got plenty of age of transitions and
getting mad hats sitting and waiting um o'celley

564
00:40:16.039 --> 00:40:22.039
hats. There's only a couple left
at the moment, and Uncle hats are

565
00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:28.039
actually all spoken for at the moment, so you know I will get some

566
00:40:28.119 --> 00:40:30.840
more in though, and each one
will be unique. Only a couple of

567
00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:35.559
each will exist. At most four
or five of them apiece will exist,

568
00:40:35.639 --> 00:40:37.119
but a lot of them are one
and two of a kind, just just

569
00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:40.880
for the record one way or another. Minor differences. So you can pick

570
00:40:40.920 --> 00:40:45.400
your show and you'll get something with
new artwork, new style, new colors,

571
00:40:45.480 --> 00:40:49.920
something one way or another, so
it won't be anything like the old

572
00:40:49.920 --> 00:40:52.440
hats either anyway. All of that. Oh, and the decks of cards

573
00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:58.519
are all gone now, so unless
I get more money to print more decks

574
00:40:58.519 --> 00:41:02.000
of cards, there done. They're
spoken for now. I say they're all

575
00:41:02.039 --> 00:41:06.039
gone, and I haven't been to
the post office. It's because I packaged

576
00:41:06.039 --> 00:41:08.639
everything up and I now have a
box with a whole bunch of these packages,

577
00:41:09.159 --> 00:41:12.519
and I'm going to take up a
lot of time on the line at

578
00:41:12.519 --> 00:41:15.760
the post office when I go.
So that's what I've got is a big

579
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:21.000
box of a bunch of little packages
ready to roll. And what's wrapped up

580
00:41:21.079 --> 00:41:24.320
is wrapped up, including the fact
that if you had made a donation last

581
00:41:24.360 --> 00:41:30.360
Friday into Saturday, I've included a
little piece of silver at least in your

582
00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:35.440
packages, so that happened as well. Everybody's going to get a pen,

583
00:41:35.639 --> 00:41:40.599
and everything else is randomly selected by
me. Could be hoodies, could be

584
00:41:42.320 --> 00:41:46.360
mousepads, could be guitar picks coming
up, bottle openers, a bag,

585
00:41:46.440 --> 00:41:51.679
an actual tote bag, although I
think everybody's asking for the tote bags.

586
00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:54.599
I might have to print some more
of those because I only got ten to

587
00:41:54.599 --> 00:42:00.320
begin with. But I'm printing everything
in very short runs here, So that's

588
00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:04.639
it, and pretty soon I'm going
to cut this off and not do it

589
00:42:04.719 --> 00:42:07.760
because I don't know how you know, how much longer I'm going to be

590
00:42:07.800 --> 00:42:12.119
able to get this stuff and get
it out. So let me know,

591
00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:15.199
guys, and get your donations in
fifty dollars or more, contact me,

592
00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:19.039
let me know, make sure I
got a mailing address for you, and

593
00:42:19.159 --> 00:42:23.280
you will definitely get some stuff in
your o'chelly swag bag. Anyways, all

594
00:42:23.360 --> 00:42:25.679
that having been said, Chris,
did I even give you a minute to

595
00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:30.679
say what you wanted to say?
Or did I just derail your your comments?

596
00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:36.559
No? That was last week.
Remember, Oh okay, you like

597
00:42:36.840 --> 00:42:38.559
closing? What would you like to
say? Oh? Yeah, no,

598
00:42:39.360 --> 00:42:43.800
you remember that movie that you were
cut out of Twins? Yes, sir,

599
00:42:44.760 --> 00:42:46.519
well, I got that the villain
into that movie lined up for one

600
00:42:46.559 --> 00:42:52.760
of these shows. Oh nice.
Remember the villain where he's like Janny DeVito

601
00:42:52.840 --> 00:42:58.199
gets the suitcase and the later half
of the movie that that villain and this

602
00:42:58.280 --> 00:43:01.800
guy comes and tries to find them
and everything and then basically corners him at

603
00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:06.239
the him and Schwarzenegger at the end. You know what's funny. You thought

604
00:43:06.239 --> 00:43:07.920
I would have seen that movie a
bunch of times. I only saw that

605
00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:15.400
movie uh once in total? The
total recall. Remember the guy that had

606
00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:19.280
like the weird alien baby thing coming
out of his stomach? Oh yeah,

607
00:43:19.360 --> 00:43:22.719
yeah, yeah, the guy who's
the guy? Yeah, Marshall Bell,

608
00:43:23.039 --> 00:43:27.280
He's uh, he's gonna be coming
on nine next week at some point.

609
00:43:27.400 --> 00:43:30.920
So yeah, what was what was
Schwarzenegger's character's name in that movie? Total

610
00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:36.719
recall? Oh, it's been a
while, I can't remember up him.

611
00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:40.199
Well whatever he calls himself in there, Quatto is the is the weird little

612
00:43:40.199 --> 00:43:44.039
thing that comes out of the dude's
gut, right, Yeah, yeah,

613
00:43:44.039 --> 00:43:46.679
well yeah quarto. Yeah. Marshall
Bell plays the actual guys. Well he

614
00:43:46.679 --> 00:43:51.360
doesn't played a little muppet guy.
Well he did well, he did the

615
00:43:51.440 --> 00:43:54.280
voice or whatever too. He did
the voice. Yeah, oh I didn't

616
00:43:54.320 --> 00:43:58.480
know that. And then he had
to sit and he had a stand up

617
00:43:58.480 --> 00:44:00.880
in a makeup chair for nine hours
to get that applied to to get the

618
00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:07.599
weird, freaky little alien baby thing
coming out of his gut, right exactly.

619
00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:09.960
And he was the he was the
gay coach in Naboring Elm Street too

620
00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:15.280
that gets slashed from the shower by
possessed Jesse, possessed by Freddy Krueger.

621
00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:19.679
So this guy's been a lot of
stuff. He was in the Stand by

622
00:44:19.760 --> 00:44:22.599
Me, he was in a lot
of big character actor he's about eighty years

623
00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:25.559
old. It lives in Oklahoma now, so that should be an interesting if

624
00:44:25.599 --> 00:44:30.119
you're a movie buff. Should be
interesting. And yeah, Twins, you

625
00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:31.800
were cut out of that. I
don't mean to rub it in, but

626
00:44:31.800 --> 00:44:37.280
I just wanted to remind you you
know of that movie. Yeah, hey,

627
00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:40.920
no problem. Look, I I
hit the cutting room floor somewhere,

628
00:44:42.840 --> 00:44:45.280
but and I don't know, you
know, it might exist somewhere. But

629
00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:49.519
then again, I'm told that some
of that stuff is more often destroyed than

630
00:44:49.559 --> 00:44:52.960
you think, so it might have
been just totally destroyed, especially back in

631
00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:58.599
the eighties. Yeah, in the
pre digital age. Yeah, right right,

632
00:44:58.679 --> 00:45:00.519
So let's see his sign has been. I'm looking to see the name

633
00:45:00.599 --> 00:45:06.159
of that of that character because I
was trying to remember it was something.

634
00:45:06.360 --> 00:45:08.800
Uh, I think, yeah,
gets your ask Mas, get your ask

635
00:45:08.840 --> 00:45:16.840
two mars. Oh yeah, well
there's always that. You know, Star

636
00:45:16.920 --> 00:45:22.719
Trek has done in a weird little
homage uh to that where they they've had

637
00:45:22.800 --> 00:45:25.360
like just this woman in the background
of a couple of bar scenes where she's

638
00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:30.599
got the three breasts. It's really
funny. Uh. In the past couple

639
00:45:30.599 --> 00:45:32.840
of years, special effects guys too
working on that crew too, guys,

640
00:45:32.840 --> 00:45:37.039
a little hidden joke or easter egg
or whatever. Well, that's what I'm

641
00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:40.159
thinking is probably some of the same
special effects guys or the same special effects

642
00:45:40.159 --> 00:45:44.159
house said let's put the three boob
check back in there. Oh, I

643
00:45:44.199 --> 00:45:49.400
know what it was. It was
Quade Quade Dennis. Yeah, Douglas Douglas

644
00:45:49.440 --> 00:45:54.280
Quaide, that's the name. Okay, I was trying to Yeah, it

645
00:45:54.360 --> 00:45:58.079
took me a while. What what's
that? You said it five minutes ago?

646
00:45:59.440 --> 00:46:06.960
Yeah, Douglas Clade. You know
you remember that you cut out?

647
00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:08.320
You know what it is if I
talk too loud, I cut you out.

648
00:46:08.400 --> 00:46:10.880
BPS, So I didn't hear you. You you said it, but

649
00:46:10.920 --> 00:46:15.159
I didn't hear you at all.
I've been struggling this whole time trying to

650
00:46:15.159 --> 00:46:22.360
find that name in my head.
So you know that actor will be on

651
00:46:22.559 --> 00:46:24.880
next week at some point. Excellent. Actually, you know, the filing

652
00:46:24.920 --> 00:46:28.960
cabinets in my mind are not in
good condition BPT. I'm just saying,

653
00:46:29.079 --> 00:46:34.920
all right, but they are there. But it is what it is.

654
00:46:36.079 --> 00:46:38.159
Wow, you know Faceshifter says in
the chat room he just paid two hundred

655
00:46:38.159 --> 00:46:44.159
and fourteen dollars for a battery.
Um yeah, yeah, I'm um not

656
00:46:44.280 --> 00:46:47.760
shocked by that at all. Phase
holding my car hostage for three grand now,

657
00:46:49.280 --> 00:46:52.559
oh three grand? Probably not gonna
get it back. What do you

658
00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:57.679
got a transmission problem there? You
know, axel, the wheel hub and

659
00:46:57.760 --> 00:47:01.079
all these other things that I of
course, after they gave us the estimate,

660
00:47:01.159 --> 00:47:05.679
they found all these other things that
they didn't know about it. So

661
00:47:05.840 --> 00:47:09.199
now, of course now they're gonna
charge a fee for every single day that

662
00:47:09.239 --> 00:47:14.079
they're keeping, you know, in
storage. So not to be a jerk,

663
00:47:14.119 --> 00:47:16.920
but you could probably take a bus
down to Georgia and buy a car

664
00:47:17.159 --> 00:47:22.360
here and spend less than three grand
and have a working car. I'm just

665
00:47:22.400 --> 00:47:25.960
saying, I don't know what you're
getting up there in Massachusetts for a used

666
00:47:25.960 --> 00:47:30.880
car, but I do know that
well, yeah, it's look, it's

667
00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:34.280
not gonna be great, but you
could have a functional vehicle for under three

668
00:47:34.320 --> 00:47:37.480
grand and also pay for your chomp. I'm saying, in Massachusetts you can't

669
00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:40.679
get anything. Yeah, it's not
even a used carcaus believe me, I

670
00:47:40.719 --> 00:47:46.480
will I will, I will get
I will purchase for a couple hundred bucks

671
00:47:46.599 --> 00:47:50.960
an S box if you know what
I mean, and register it just to

672
00:47:50.960 --> 00:47:55.039
be able to get to a job. But not around in Massachusetts because they

673
00:47:55.079 --> 00:48:00.599
think they're California when they're not.
I don't understand You're not. You're not

674
00:48:00.679 --> 00:48:04.639
going to buy a five hundred dollars
car anywhere in the Northeast anymore. And

675
00:48:04.760 --> 00:48:07.719
you know what, You're not buying
it here either but with two or with

676
00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:09.599
about two grand. I'm telling you
now, if you put two grand or

677
00:48:09.639 --> 00:48:13.960
two or twenty two hundred dollars,
if you came down here with about that,

678
00:48:14.079 --> 00:48:16.679
you could have a working vehicle that
needs some work. Uh, and

679
00:48:16.800 --> 00:48:21.199
it would be working, and you
could come down here and pay for your

680
00:48:21.199 --> 00:48:24.639
trip down here and buy it and
take it home. But that that that

681
00:48:24.679 --> 00:48:28.599
would be the best I could offer
you. And there's probably closer states than

682
00:48:28.639 --> 00:48:31.159
Georgia for you to go. But
I'm just saying the estimate was eight hundred

683
00:48:31.199 --> 00:48:36.039
dollars. Now it's over three grand. So they they screwed us. Well

684
00:48:36.159 --> 00:48:38.679
that yeah, because now you're looking
at it going, well, clans Court,

685
00:48:38.760 --> 00:48:42.639
you need a lawyer. And uh, if we had the money you

686
00:48:42.800 --> 00:48:45.519
had, you know, we would
have just got a different car and begin

687
00:48:45.639 --> 00:48:46.639
with. So well, yeah,
it's like if I had the money to

688
00:48:46.639 --> 00:48:50.679
put three grand on a car,
I might have gotten a car already.

689
00:48:51.320 --> 00:48:53.639
It's not a small clans Court.
Yeah, and they know this and that

690
00:48:53.639 --> 00:48:58.599
that's why they have the over barrel. Yea. Yeah, well, yeay,

691
00:48:58.639 --> 00:49:01.119
you you probably should have just wrapped
it. But anyway, all that

692
00:49:01.239 --> 00:49:06.559
having been said and everything else I
think it might be time for us to

693
00:49:06.559 --> 00:49:10.360
take a break, Bee Pete,
what do you think? Sure, So

694
00:49:10.559 --> 00:49:15.519
let's do that for now. And
maybe maybe maybe I'll have other Family Guy

695
00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:21.559
clips. Maybe I'll have other clips
to play in general coming up later in

696
00:49:21.599 --> 00:49:24.960
the show. But we'll we'll get
to some other discussions. We're gonna try

697
00:49:24.960 --> 00:49:29.159
and have some fun. We're not
even through the first hour because we started

698
00:49:29.239 --> 00:49:32.239
late here on the Friday night call
in show. Thus far, Vance has

699
00:49:32.280 --> 00:49:37.199
joined us, Harlan has joined us. Chris Graves and you two could join

700
00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:40.519
us if you're hearing us live on
the sixteenth day of June twenty twenty three,

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allegedly according to that thing we call
a calendar. Three one nine five

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two seven five zero one six three
one nine five two seven five zero one

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six, or reach out to me
Charles dot Ocelly on Skype and I will

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call you into the show. Otherwise
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one six The Ocelli Effect Open Mike
Friday Night. We'll be back after this.

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great national transformation that took place and
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the times and reveals never before published
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Kennedy would not have been assassinated if
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His assassination took place in the context
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Generals such as Curtis LeMay not only
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not destroy because they were on mobile
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a Third World War, and they
wanted to go to war anyway. The

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War State by Michael Swanson reveals why, and we'll show you what President Kennedy

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to the Ocelly dot com radio network. Uncle, I'll bet you remember the

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time when Benjamin Fulford said that the
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731
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to take out the Illuminati, to
change the entire world for the better.

732
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And it never gonna happen, and
Nevin did it, never did, didn't.

733
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Yeah, because there's a lot of
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734
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Zumer, we better not say and
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the point, why to the point, and this what I left straight to

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the point o'celli Ocelli dot com this
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738
00:53:30.760 --> 00:53:35.000
your schucker, Shelley. You know
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739
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margin upon the great Rusape. The
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The hopes and prayers of liberty loving
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our praise, allies and brothers in
arms. On the other front, your

742
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task will not be an easy one. Your enemy is well trained, well

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equipped, and battle heart. He
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turned. The free men of the
world are marking together to vigering good luck

745
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and let us all the things.
I'm Almighty God upon the great and noble

746
00:54:12.239 --> 00:54:20.480
understanding. Then let's get my candy
back, Brian. Let's track down the

747
00:54:20.519 --> 00:54:22.360
punks of stone and make them pay. Look, Stewie, I don't think

748
00:54:22.360 --> 00:54:25.840
that I am pleased. This is
my first Halloween and event and it's ruined.

749
00:54:27.599 --> 00:54:30.480
All right, all right, fine, we'll look for him good because

750
00:54:30.519 --> 00:54:34.920
so far Halloween's a bigger letdown than
being a Mets fan opening day. And

751
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here's the first bitch, and the
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to know Judie Baker's wild claim Oswald
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Really, I imagine I could claim
I have four wheels. It doesn't

761
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make me a wagon. But okay, Oswald was on the jilty and time

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Judith Barry Baker in her own words, thank you for all the great

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and listen to watch. They can't
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will we senatch? This is also
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Swanson. This is James farm Report
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effected Ocelly dot Com. Revelation through
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786
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of the Friday Night live call in
show here on Ocelli dot Com, the

787
01:04:18.679 --> 01:04:24.440
Ocelli Effect. And we are joined
thus far by vander Key himself, vance

788
01:04:25.400 --> 01:04:30.519
our friend Harlan there in Tennessee,
and of course Chris Graves on the Skype.

789
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But you could come and play in
our sandbox as well. Three one

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nine five two seven five zero one
six is the number to call in if

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not join me by a Skype.
I am Charles dot Ocelli. If you

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do so, guess what I'll call
you into the show otherwise three one nine

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five two seven five zero one six
Charles dot Ocelli on Skype. I'm saying

794
01:04:54.599 --> 01:04:58.599
this in my sleep on occasion Bpe
because even though I canceled some of the

795
01:04:58.679 --> 01:05:02.360
live shows this week due to a
combination of headaches and an internet issue.

796
01:05:03.480 --> 01:05:09.159
Guess what here. We are live. We almost always get the Friday night

797
01:05:09.239 --> 01:05:12.920
show done. So let me turn
it over to you for a little bit.

798
01:05:13.039 --> 01:05:15.199
B Pete. See where you want
to go? What's on your mind?

799
01:05:15.360 --> 01:05:18.159
Or do you want to go back
around the table? Did we get

800
01:05:18.199 --> 01:05:24.199
to everybody? What's up? Bpete? Well we can, we can go

801
01:05:24.360 --> 01:05:28.280
back around the table. I mean
we've got you know that. It's like

802
01:05:28.440 --> 01:05:31.440
Harlan said, we've got the news
of Orange Jesus and all his legal woes.

803
01:05:32.440 --> 01:05:36.199
I just stumbled across an article that
I found quite interesting, and it's,

804
01:05:36.320 --> 01:05:41.599
uh, could it be that Annhauser
Bush tanked bud Light on purpose?

805
01:05:42.559 --> 01:05:49.679
It's a whole different things. But
indictment wise, I don't know what is

806
01:05:49.719 --> 01:05:54.199
it. Indictment for Loosa. Now, it's gonna be here very soon because

807
01:05:54.280 --> 01:05:59.920
Smith, who just unloaded on Trump
on this latest thirty seven count, is

808
01:06:00.119 --> 01:06:01.960
also going after January six two,
So I'm sure we're going to see some

809
01:06:02.039 --> 01:06:06.000
more fall out of that. We've
got what's going on in Georgia. I'm

810
01:06:06.039 --> 01:06:10.000
sure we'll have something come out of
that, indictment wise, and we've got

811
01:06:10.079 --> 01:06:14.480
what two others going on in New
York or one in DC? In New

812
01:06:14.559 --> 01:06:20.840
York, although I did find interesting
that he did get one win. Some

813
01:06:21.039 --> 01:06:27.800
ag up in New York was looking
through whether Trump inflated the price of his

814
01:06:28.719 --> 01:06:34.000
properties for or no devalued the price
of his properties or the value of his

815
01:06:34.119 --> 01:06:36.679
properties to try to get a better
tax rate, and all that. That

816
01:06:36.840 --> 01:06:41.320
one was silently dropped. A couple
of days ago. They closed that investigation.

817
01:06:41.440 --> 01:06:44.320
Nothing came of it. So you
know what did get one? You

818
01:06:44.440 --> 01:06:49.840
know why? Because yawn, Okay, a prominent property owner devalues his stuff

819
01:06:49.880 --> 01:06:54.840
when it's time to pay taxes and
overvalues it when it's time to get a

820
01:06:54.920 --> 01:06:58.079
loan or to charge somebody for it. I mean, come on, man,

821
01:06:58.239 --> 01:07:00.400
it's it's much like Look, Pete, it's much like being a Mets

822
01:07:00.480 --> 01:07:03.599
fan. Then let's get my candy
back, Brian. Let's track down the

823
01:07:03.679 --> 01:07:06.320
punks of Stowe. Didn't make them
pay. Look, Stewie, I don't

824
01:07:06.320 --> 01:07:11.000
think that I am peased. This
is my first Halloween and and it's ruined.

825
01:07:11.800 --> 01:07:14.719
Alright, alright, fine, we'll
look for him. Good because so

826
01:07:14.880 --> 01:07:19.039
far Halloween's a bigger let down than
being a Mets fan. Here's the first

827
01:07:19.119 --> 01:07:25.559
bitch and the seasons over. Yeah, it's like being a Mets fans.

828
01:07:26.119 --> 01:07:30.920
You know, you know the way
it's going. It just come on sick

829
01:07:30.039 --> 01:07:34.760
burn and and and I and I'm
a Mets fan. Okay, sorry,

830
01:07:34.840 --> 01:07:40.199
b Pete Goohead. Well, well, I'm going to say on the Trump

831
01:07:40.280 --> 01:07:43.400
side, this election coming up,
I think people know where I stand.

832
01:07:43.440 --> 01:07:45.199
I really don't care for anything that's
going. All enough, I'll kind of

833
01:07:45.239 --> 01:07:51.079
had my fill of it. But
I see that in in Biden, the

834
01:07:51.280 --> 01:07:57.320
Democrats are showing their desperation if that's
the only candidate that they can put out

835
01:07:57.360 --> 01:08:01.360
there, and the Republicans in Trump, aren't you showing their hypocrisy. I

836
01:08:01.440 --> 01:08:04.159
mean it comes down to that.
That's what this election is all about.

837
01:08:05.000 --> 01:08:08.440
Yeah, I'll see how it play. Other than that, I don't care

838
01:08:08.480 --> 01:08:11.599
how many times they indict him.
I'm tired of hearing it. So I

839
01:08:11.719 --> 01:08:14.199
just want to see something come along, get him off the front page.

840
01:08:14.800 --> 01:08:17.840
Well you know Trump is accused of
criminal activity. Okay, so what is

841
01:08:17.880 --> 01:08:23.079
it Friday, Tuesday, Someday of
the week whatever. Biden is stumbling and

842
01:08:23.239 --> 01:08:26.159
stammering, what is it Friday,
Tuesday, Someday of the week. Does

843
01:08:26.199 --> 01:08:28.600
it matter? I mean, really, I'm getting bored with all this.

844
01:08:28.960 --> 01:08:31.760
I want to see Bobby Kennedy step
into this race and shake things up,

845
01:08:31.840 --> 01:08:36.119
for sure. I want to see
somebody step in and shake everything up because

846
01:08:36.600 --> 01:08:40.760
I'm tired of the same business as
usual, and yet they're going to ram

847
01:08:40.840 --> 01:08:44.000
this down our throats again. I
mean, are you bored yet? Are

848
01:08:44.079 --> 01:08:47.680
you not entertained? I'm not,
I'm not anymore. This is not even

849
01:08:47.840 --> 01:08:51.640
entertaining. I'm sorry. Good.
I want to someone. I want to

850
01:08:51.640 --> 01:08:56.560
see someone take half the energy that
they're spending on trying to go after Trump,

851
01:08:57.159 --> 01:09:00.720
to affect this election, to go
after Oh, this crap that we

852
01:09:00.840 --> 01:09:06.039
went through over COVID and we're still
going I would love to see somebody haul

853
01:09:06.199 --> 01:09:11.239
his ass in the court. Um, I don't understand it. I mean,

854
01:09:11.279 --> 01:09:15.000
that guy's responsible for over six million
deaths in the world, you know,

855
01:09:15.279 --> 01:09:18.000
and we hear about the Holocaust.
We don't hear anybody talking about COVID.

856
01:09:18.560 --> 01:09:21.399
And there were a lot of people
affected, a lot of people lost

857
01:09:21.439 --> 01:09:26.720
their businesses, lost their homes,
lost everything because of this crap. And

858
01:09:26.880 --> 01:09:31.079
I'm sorry, but that little,
that little it just needs to be put

859
01:09:31.159 --> 01:09:36.720
in jail. But there's a whole
lot of jail cells that are really anxiously

860
01:09:36.800 --> 01:09:41.680
awaiting some actual criminals. But do
they ever get there. Don't forget the

861
01:09:41.760 --> 01:09:45.720
age, the whole age thing too. It's about gie. Those are more

862
01:09:45.840 --> 01:09:49.600
deaths. God, what do you
want to get into all that? Let's

863
01:09:49.640 --> 01:09:54.640
just throw the entire WHO, the
WHO, the whole World Health Organization,

864
01:09:54.760 --> 01:09:58.640
all of them, and they're hang
them off. I love you know,

865
01:09:58.920 --> 01:10:01.159
I love how they just North Korea
take a prominent spot with the WHO.

866
01:10:01.279 --> 01:10:04.399
By the way, that's that's hilarious, especially because Trump goes, hey,

867
01:10:04.439 --> 01:10:10.720
congratulations, you're with the World Health
Organization? Which direction do you want to

868
01:10:10.760 --> 01:10:13.960
go in for? How ridiculous all
of this is? I mean, you

869
01:10:14.039 --> 01:10:16.960
know, come on, I'm sorry. Good. It's like when you know,

870
01:10:17.079 --> 01:10:20.920
the UN put someone like Idi Amine
in charge of the Human Rights Council.

871
01:10:21.079 --> 01:10:24.640
I mean, my god, let's
tell you know how much ridiculous do

872
01:10:24.720 --> 01:10:30.439
you want to be? I'm not
I used to talk about right now.

873
01:10:30.520 --> 01:10:31.399
We need to kick them all out
of here, get rid of WHO,

874
01:10:31.479 --> 01:10:34.760
get rid of NATO, get rid
of everybody the UN. Just tell them

875
01:10:34.880 --> 01:10:39.760
leave us the hell alone and go
live in your little makeup, make believe

876
01:10:39.840 --> 01:10:45.800
world. It's crazy, hey,
but but but hold on, that's isolationism,

877
01:10:45.680 --> 01:10:56.520
can't I know that's the bob Oh
my god. You know. Meanwhile,

878
01:10:56.600 --> 01:11:00.399
in other news, uh, it
does seem as though Ukraine is making

879
01:11:00.439 --> 01:11:04.840
a serious move against Russia. And
is it serious or not? It depends

880
01:11:04.880 --> 01:11:10.720
on what the Western media wants to
show you. That is happening. It's

881
01:11:10.720 --> 01:11:14.479
still happening. I every time I
comment on it, I get myself in

882
01:11:14.520 --> 01:11:19.239
a world a hurt. But hello, I heard is the fact that Russia

883
01:11:19.359 --> 01:11:25.439
just moved missiles to Belarus. Now, why aren't they trumping that everywhere?

884
01:11:25.600 --> 01:11:29.520
I'm surprised that's not blaring, you
know, scaring with the nukes, scaring

885
01:11:29.560 --> 01:11:32.119
with the nukes. I've seen it
in one location the story. You know,

886
01:11:32.399 --> 01:11:36.880
why is it not blouder? Well, I caught it the Aliens.

887
01:11:39.079 --> 01:11:42.720
I caught it in a couple of
places just before airtime today. That's why

888
01:11:42.760 --> 01:11:44.840
I mentioned it at the top of
the show. B Pete. You might

889
01:11:44.920 --> 01:11:46.600
have not heard it in my you
know, in my mushmouth way at the

890
01:11:46.680 --> 01:11:50.359
beginning, but I said that,
you know, there is reports that they

891
01:11:50.479 --> 01:11:57.039
moved nukes into position now and are
prepared to use them. So you know

892
01:11:57.239 --> 01:12:00.880
that that came through in a couple
of places. I mean, the usual

893
01:12:00.960 --> 01:12:03.279
suspects started with it. Now are
they screaming it at the top of their

894
01:12:03.359 --> 01:12:06.119
lungs? I don't know, you
know, by the time we're done on

895
01:12:06.239 --> 01:12:11.439
air tonight, they might be.
We're going to have to stay tuned whether

896
01:12:11.520 --> 01:12:15.720
it's real or not. Another question
though, huh, you know, is

897
01:12:15.760 --> 01:12:18.319
there yet? Yeah, let's let's
let's it's like, how many years have

898
01:12:18.439 --> 01:12:23.279
they been telling us nuclear destruction is
imminent? You know? Iran is a

899
01:12:23.479 --> 01:12:27.279
year and a half away from a
nuclear weapon and they have a knuked anybody

900
01:12:27.359 --> 01:12:33.760
the only people who've ever knuked anybody
as us. Yeah, it's always it's

901
01:12:33.760 --> 01:12:39.199
always the marker to the Hiroshima.
They said that these weapons are talking about

902
01:12:39.239 --> 01:12:45.000
these particular weapons are three times the
strength of what we used in World War

903
01:12:45.119 --> 01:12:48.159
Two, So they always used that
as the marker. How much bigger is

904
01:12:48.199 --> 01:12:53.479
it compared to what was used in
the past? And that's all true,

905
01:12:54.199 --> 01:12:57.760
But is this going to be the
next thing? Are we going to have

906
01:12:57.920 --> 01:13:00.239
nuclear fear? Is that going to
be the way that they say? Look,

907
01:13:00.319 --> 01:13:04.680
stick with the old man who was
bumbling and fumbling his way through this,

908
01:13:04.920 --> 01:13:09.840
because at the very least he's not
going to act quickly or rashly because

909
01:13:09.960 --> 01:13:15.199
he can't act quickly. Uh,
you know, but it's just the way

910
01:13:15.239 --> 01:13:19.319
it is, Jane. We're at
this point in the world and we can't

911
01:13:19.399 --> 01:13:26.760
do any better than what we've got
as president now. Um, it just

912
01:13:27.000 --> 01:13:30.239
amazes me how in the hell we
have not gone down that I'm waiting for,

913
01:13:30.560 --> 01:13:34.359
you know, the squirrel to start
at the bottom of the bowl.

914
01:13:34.439 --> 01:13:38.600
We've got to be circling. This
is the best we can do. We

915
01:13:38.720 --> 01:13:42.800
deserve what we got, common duf. There's a harsh statement, Harlan.

916
01:13:42.840 --> 01:13:45.399
You got anything you want to tag
onto that before I let Vans and Chris

917
01:13:45.520 --> 01:13:51.239
loose on that comment. Yeah,
first thing, I want to act better

918
01:13:53.119 --> 01:14:00.760
winning yet to win it? Are
we tired of winning? Are we tired

919
01:14:00.800 --> 01:14:10.720
of winning? Yet? All I
can say to that is this, there

920
01:14:10.760 --> 01:14:15.760
you go. That's that's it.
That's my answer. But I absolutely agree.

921
01:14:16.000 --> 01:14:18.199
I mean, you know, this
day in time, and like I've

922
01:14:18.239 --> 01:14:20.880
been, you know, telling people
a lot last four or five years,

923
01:14:21.800 --> 01:14:27.560
when does the utopia show up?
When does the red state utopia? Actually?

924
01:14:27.920 --> 01:14:32.119
Again? You know, Uh,
it's just like all this economic stuff

925
01:14:32.359 --> 01:14:40.319
is just a joke. That's you
know, we hear that basically that under

926
01:14:40.359 --> 01:14:44.439
Trump. We had the best economy
in world history. It was the damn

927
01:14:44.560 --> 01:14:47.199
good. They had to print about
twelve three and about six months to keep

928
01:14:47.279 --> 01:14:53.319
the gimmick going, you know what
I mean. So I'm ready for it

929
01:14:53.439 --> 01:14:56.399
to go down. I'm sicky,
you know, just giving all the extra

930
01:14:56.520 --> 01:14:59.439
hell that they could collapse everything.
We said, it's a house and go

931
01:14:59.600 --> 01:15:03.119
bro. Well, you know,
you know when I used to work at

932
01:15:03.159 --> 01:15:06.640
strip clubs. I'll tell you what
we did on Wednesday and Monday nights when

933
01:15:06.720 --> 01:15:11.840
things were slow, is we would
hand out some funny money and people would

934
01:15:11.840 --> 01:15:15.000
show up to do that, and
then they'd spend their real money afterwards.

935
01:15:15.800 --> 01:15:18.199
What we did is we handed out
the fake money, right, the little

936
01:15:18.319 --> 01:15:21.720
the little fake money, so that
we could get things roll and business looks

937
01:15:21.760 --> 01:15:25.680
like it's booming, and then business
would boom. That's how it was.

938
01:15:25.720 --> 01:15:28.039
I mean, I was only the
bouncer, so I wasn't in charge of

939
01:15:28.119 --> 01:15:31.680
business when I used to watch it
all the time. Give them the fake

940
01:15:31.760 --> 01:15:34.680
money, give them the funny money. Bring in the guy who's got a

941
01:15:34.800 --> 01:15:38.520
lot of cash, right, bringing
a star. People want to hang out

942
01:15:38.560 --> 01:15:41.319
in the strip club with the star
cool. And you know what we do,

943
01:15:41.439 --> 01:15:45.680
We give him about a thousand dollars
worth of BS money that he sticks

944
01:15:45.720 --> 01:15:48.800
in the strippers g strings, and
then people will come in and spend their

945
01:15:48.840 --> 01:15:53.760
real money because they think it's happening. That's what they did on Mondays and

946
01:15:53.800 --> 01:15:57.520
Wednesdays at strip clubs. You know, why do they give out free drinks

947
01:15:57.560 --> 01:16:00.720
the ladies on Wednesday nights? Because
otherwise nobody would come in to buy drinks.

948
01:16:01.000 --> 01:16:03.840
See, you know, And and
this is what they did to us,

949
01:16:03.960 --> 01:16:08.520
the strip club model. Let's let's
print up a whole bunch of money

950
01:16:08.560 --> 01:16:12.560
and act like there's still an economy
going on. Uh, good point there,

951
01:16:12.680 --> 01:16:15.119
Harlan. Anyway, Chris, you
got anything you want to add to

952
01:16:15.199 --> 01:16:20.800
that? I just blame the aliens, fair enough. Vance, Do you

953
01:16:20.880 --> 01:16:25.760
blame the aliens or do you think
it's the titty bar paradigm? What's up?

954
01:16:28.159 --> 01:16:30.960
Let me ask, Chris, did
you hear about the ten foot aliens

955
01:16:30.079 --> 01:16:34.359
in the backyard? Yeah, they're
they're gonna be at your local strip clubs

956
01:16:34.399 --> 01:16:42.720
on Wednesdays. They're replacing the female. I hope they got six I don't

957
01:16:42.800 --> 01:16:46.199
they got six breasts? Yeah?
Nan nan, who is the word?

958
01:16:46.920 --> 01:16:50.680
See? Vance is going for the
six breasted alien. I don't know if

959
01:16:50.720 --> 01:16:55.479
I can even handle the three for
God's sake, But okay, fair enough.

960
01:16:56.079 --> 01:16:58.960
What what do you say about that? Pepete? You want the six

961
01:16:59.039 --> 01:17:01.840
breasted aliens at the stripper joint or
what I mean? I know during COVID

962
01:17:01.960 --> 01:17:08.279
they were doing uh what was it, um? Uh hand sanitizer dances?

963
01:17:08.399 --> 01:17:11.279
Right, they would grease up with
hand sanitizer and then you can watch them

964
01:17:11.880 --> 01:17:15.479
through a booth or something. Right, I mean, how about six breasted

965
01:17:15.560 --> 01:17:21.640
aliens? What do you think?
I think that we need to overhaul the

966
01:17:21.760 --> 01:17:27.600
tax laws and find a way that
I can somehow get a deduction for strippers

967
01:17:27.680 --> 01:17:31.560
and bartenders because it's delitions going up. And I bet I've put I don't

968
01:17:31.560 --> 01:17:35.039
know, maybe eight or nine through
college. I just getting tough. Well,

969
01:17:35.119 --> 01:17:41.560
it's already worth in man that goes
out there and stimulates the economy by

970
01:17:41.880 --> 01:17:45.760
getting you know, two hundred dollars
worth of singles and sticking them wherever they'll

971
01:17:45.840 --> 01:17:49.680
stick. It's just getting harder and
harder. And I think it's time that

972
01:17:49.800 --> 01:17:54.800
somebody in Washington started looking at the
you know, the plight that the childless

973
01:17:55.399 --> 01:17:59.079
elderly have to go through, and
what has cost us you know, when

974
01:17:59.119 --> 01:18:01.199
I get ready for souls, I
can't quit work. Social Security will not

975
01:18:01.439 --> 01:18:05.760
keep these kids I'm supporting in school, So we need to do something about

976
01:18:05.800 --> 01:18:11.840
this. You will look, you
know you want a real stimulus. I'll

977
01:18:11.880 --> 01:18:15.039
tell you what all you gotta do
is tell Blue Cross and Blue Shield if

978
01:18:15.079 --> 01:18:17.399
you want to stay in business,
you got to start qualifying lap dances as

979
01:18:17.479 --> 01:18:23.359
therapeutic. And then it's over,
baby, because they will over build that

980
01:18:23.560 --> 01:18:29.880
thing and we will have an entirely
new economy emerge. What's that medicare?

981
01:18:30.399 --> 01:18:32.800
They would it would crash the whole
system. Just do the overbuilding. Yeah,

982
01:18:32.960 --> 01:18:36.279
keep up with the paper. You
think medicare is broke, now try

983
01:18:36.319 --> 01:18:44.319
it. What that deductible would be? I don't know, but I guarantee

984
01:18:44.880 --> 01:18:51.520
a happier there you go. So, now that we have solved economic problem,

985
01:18:51.600 --> 01:18:57.960
yea, if you provide them of
somebody's support, you should be able

986
01:18:58.000 --> 01:19:00.840
to take them off your taxes.
But you know, it's kind of hard

987
01:19:00.880 --> 01:19:02.840
to get a soul security number.
You know, during a lapdan, we

988
01:19:02.880 --> 01:19:05.920
should be able to get something to
the business, like a ten ninety nine,

989
01:19:06.119 --> 01:19:10.720
call it a ten sixty nine.
I don't care, but give us

990
01:19:10.760 --> 01:19:15.560
a piece of paper. Desist.
You know this guy's as much as hart

991
01:19:15.640 --> 01:19:19.079
tab and this much in private dances, and hell, I could make some

992
01:19:19.199 --> 01:19:23.319
money. I could be like Warren
Buffett. You know there you go able

993
01:19:23.359 --> 01:19:27.319
to click. Terry pays more in
taxes than me. Fair enough. Jimmy

994
01:19:27.439 --> 01:19:30.359
James, do you think Blue Cross, Jimmy James, do you think Blue

995
01:19:30.399 --> 01:19:35.399
Cross Blue Shields should start covering lap
dances is therapeutic? Or the trick is

996
01:19:35.439 --> 01:19:43.399
kidding Jimmy James. Jimmy James,
hear me, Yeah, I was asking

997
01:19:43.439 --> 01:19:45.600
you. Do you think that Blue
Cross and Blue Shield should start covering lap

998
01:19:45.680 --> 01:19:55.680
dances is therapeutic? True? What
that? And some you know, emotional

999
01:19:55.800 --> 01:20:00.039
support dogs and you're all set.
You can have a Niel and a strip

1000
01:20:00.119 --> 01:20:03.840
club in the same joint. I'm
telling you, the ideas are flowing,

1001
01:20:04.319 --> 01:20:13.319
Jimmy James. We're fixing the economy. What do you say, It's going

1002
01:20:13.439 --> 01:20:20.880
magnificently nice. I'm very impressed.
Okay, cool, What do you got

1003
01:20:20.920 --> 01:20:24.359
on your mind tonight? Man,
Go go for it and throw it on

1004
01:20:24.439 --> 01:20:30.720
the table and let's let's just rip
this whole thing around again. Well let's

1005
01:20:30.840 --> 01:20:39.279
see heard it already. Uh.
Daniel Ellsberg is guy at age ninety two.

1006
01:20:39.880 --> 01:20:46.039
Yes, yes, I did get
an email about that earlier today and

1007
01:20:46.159 --> 01:20:48.880
did not bring it up just yet. I was gonna bring it up around

1008
01:20:48.920 --> 01:20:51.880
the end of the show, but
you beat me to it. So yes,

1009
01:20:51.960 --> 01:20:57.359
indeed, Daniel Ellsberg died. Um
any views that you want to drop

1010
01:20:57.479 --> 01:21:00.479
on that or you got something else
in your mind, Jimmy Jane, Oh

1011
01:21:00.640 --> 01:21:08.159
well, that's the shame that he's
been so silent for so many years.

1012
01:21:09.000 --> 01:21:13.359
I didn't notice him coming out in
defense of any of these others so called.

1013
01:21:16.520 --> 01:21:21.279
True enough, and indeed, I'm
gonna now drop in the ocellia dot

1014
01:21:21.319 --> 01:21:28.119
com chat room the article from let's
see where's this website? Actually it's from

1015
01:21:28.199 --> 01:21:32.960
the aa ARC library dot org.
Daniel Elsberg, who leaked the Pentegron papers,

1016
01:21:33.279 --> 01:21:38.880
is dead at ninety two. Deeply
disturbed by the accounting of America's deceit

1017
01:21:38.920 --> 01:21:42.960
in Vietnam, he approached The New
York Times. The disclosures that followed rock

1018
01:21:43.199 --> 01:21:48.880
the nation. According to the article
here by Robert D. McFadden, published

1019
01:21:48.920 --> 01:21:54.359
June sixteen, twenty twenty three,
and um, there you go. Daniel

1020
01:21:54.399 --> 01:21:59.600
Elsberg, a military analysts who experienced
a sobering anti war epiphany on a bathroom

1021
01:21:59.680 --> 01:22:03.520
floor, and in nineteen seventy one
disclosed the secret history of American lies in

1022
01:22:03.560 --> 01:22:08.880
deceit in Vietnam that came to be
known as the Pentagon Papers. Died on

1023
01:22:09.039 --> 01:22:13.840
Friday at his home in Kensington,
California. He was ninety two. The

1024
01:22:14.039 --> 01:22:18.880
cause was pancreatic cancer, his wife
and children said in a statement. So

1025
01:22:19.279 --> 01:22:23.760
there you go. And there's a
whole other bit to this article. You

1026
01:22:23.800 --> 01:22:27.319
can read. I've dropped it in
the live chat room at Ocelli dot com.

1027
01:22:27.920 --> 01:22:30.399
But yeah, Jimmy James, I
was going to bring that up toward

1028
01:22:30.479 --> 01:22:33.000
the end of the show. But
there it is. Anything else you want

1029
01:22:33.000 --> 01:22:43.720
to add there? Wells were on
him. I'll bring up another Hello apt

1030
01:22:44.039 --> 01:22:48.039
have you ever heard of a Linden
Baines chats made by the name of Ross

1031
01:22:48.079 --> 01:22:58.279
Style or Check? Of course?
Yes? And what did they do on

1032
01:22:58.439 --> 01:23:06.359
the last day in their white Uh? You got me there, go ahead,

1033
01:23:06.520 --> 01:23:13.479
Jimmy James, tell him about it. Well, he pulled up in

1034
01:23:13.560 --> 01:23:18.800
a little U haul. He took
a concept papers on to be it now

1035
01:23:19.039 --> 01:23:28.119
more and all the proof and all
the papers about him bugging nickok campaign literally

1036
01:23:30.239 --> 01:23:36.920
and so later he Finally during the
seven he's turned over the stuff to the

1037
01:23:38.439 --> 01:23:46.239
archives under the condition that it belonged
closed for fifty years. I'm curious,

1038
01:23:48.640 --> 01:23:54.319
so is this crap out yet or
what do people even know about this?

1039
01:23:56.399 --> 01:23:59.720
Well, you know, he died
in what two thousand and three? Rostowe?

1040
01:24:00.159 --> 01:24:05.840
Right, it's been a good twenty
years. But the way it has

1041
01:24:05.960 --> 01:24:13.079
rolled up as it was supposed to
be released, he said, I thought

1042
01:24:13.199 --> 01:24:16.279
fifty years after chance this death.
There you saying it was Rostow's death.

1043
01:24:16.920 --> 01:24:19.279
No, no, no, no
no. I was just saying that Rostow

1044
01:24:19.399 --> 01:24:23.720
died in two thousand and three,
so we would not have heard from him

1045
01:24:23.840 --> 01:24:30.239
after that. Regarding this, however, papers like this are often not shown

1046
01:24:30.279 --> 01:24:33.720
to the public for a half century
to seventy five years, depending. I

1047
01:24:33.840 --> 01:24:38.920
think congressional rules make it so that
you can't show stuff that the Congress was

1048
01:24:38.960 --> 01:24:43.960
involved in for what seventy five years, right, Congressional papers and such,

1049
01:24:44.800 --> 01:24:48.520
And I think the executive branch that's
usually the rules are fifty years at a

1050
01:24:48.560 --> 01:24:55.600
minimum, unless there are special you
know, demands for said paperwork, etc.

1051
01:24:56.279 --> 01:25:00.760
Which you would have thought would have
been there long before this guy's death

1052
01:25:00.800 --> 01:25:03.600
in two thousand and three or Johnson's
death in the early seventies. Um,

1053
01:25:04.119 --> 01:25:08.000
you would have thought a demand for
the release of that stuff would have been

1054
01:25:08.039 --> 01:25:11.880
out there and the National Archives would
not still be withholding it. Right,

1055
01:25:15.079 --> 01:25:24.279
My understanding is the Jobson Library has
it, but still under the National Archives

1056
01:25:24.960 --> 01:25:29.359
where it gets Papa. So you
guys are talking about Trump and these stupid

1057
01:25:29.439 --> 01:25:34.239
papers, these presidential papers have been
looked on to all the precedents and stuff,

1058
01:25:36.399 --> 01:25:43.199
it's all there. There is no
Trump, there is no case against

1059
01:25:43.319 --> 01:25:51.920
Trump. That's silly whatever, But
I will that the documents situations of a

1060
01:25:53.079 --> 01:25:57.399
mass. But the end of day, the president's papers are the president's papers.

1061
01:25:58.600 --> 01:26:00.479
Yeah. But even when they're in
all the even when they're held by

1062
01:26:00.479 --> 01:26:03.960
a presidential library, like in the
case of the Johnson Library, it's still

1063
01:26:04.560 --> 01:26:10.600
supposedly or allegedly under the control of
the you know, National Archives system.

1064
01:26:10.760 --> 01:26:16.720
Right, So you have this,
Yeah, not necessarily, but that's what

1065
01:26:16.800 --> 01:26:25.199
I was getting at. Yeah,
Trump, it's usually been negotiations, which

1066
01:26:25.680 --> 01:26:31.479
it's stupid night two seventy eight law
putouts should happen looking five years, well,

1067
01:26:31.560 --> 01:26:36.800
that's shy of that. Well either
way, well, either way,

1068
01:26:38.279 --> 01:26:43.239
this stuff, you know, again, clarity is difficult to come by regarding

1069
01:26:43.279 --> 01:26:48.720
this. But again, even these
presidential libraries are still supposedly under the control

1070
01:26:48.760 --> 01:26:54.880
of the National Archives and their system
and their policies, etc. And yet

1071
01:26:55.239 --> 01:26:59.640
we have all sorts of conflicts,
and nobody is treated equally because everybody has

1072
01:26:59.640 --> 01:27:02.600
a different in situation when it comes
to these presidents, whether they're alive or

1073
01:27:02.680 --> 01:27:08.239
dead. We've had difficulties getting things
out of the Bush Library, of course,

1074
01:27:08.279 --> 01:27:11.199
the Johnson Library is fun. There's
a bunch of things missing from the

1075
01:27:11.279 --> 01:27:15.039
Johnson Library, by the way,
that nobody seems to be able to account

1076
01:27:15.079 --> 01:27:17.359
for. And the only reason why
we're discovering that is because of the JFK

1077
01:27:17.520 --> 01:27:24.079
records collection. Otherwise I guarantee you
there's tons of things missing, withheld,

1078
01:27:24.560 --> 01:27:30.000
mislabeled, just sort of disappeared into
the grand system one way or another.

1079
01:27:30.439 --> 01:27:33.960
Whether they're significant or not is irrelevant. It's a big giant mess, and

1080
01:27:34.720 --> 01:27:39.840
nobody has a very clear concise this
is the way things are supposed to go.

1081
01:27:40.560 --> 01:27:45.600
So I find it interesting that this
is going on regarding any of the

1082
01:27:45.680 --> 01:27:48.760
ex president's, x vice presidents,
etc. So, you know, it's

1083
01:27:48.800 --> 01:27:51.600
just interesting. But at the same
time, I don't know what to make

1084
01:27:51.640 --> 01:27:56.199
of an acceptance. To me,
all a big joke because at the end

1085
01:27:56.239 --> 01:28:00.039
of the day, nobody's gonna get
punished by anything if they did do something

1086
01:28:00.119 --> 01:28:04.920
wrong in prison. I mean,
this is a big joke to him.

1087
01:28:05.239 --> 01:28:15.319
Think I think it's a big joke. You're going to jail. No,

1088
01:28:15.520 --> 01:28:24.159
he's not listening. I don't think
lawyers. Well, look, look here's

1089
01:28:26.880 --> 01:28:31.399
speak. You can speak. Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy.

1090
01:28:31.479 --> 01:28:33.319
Let me ask, let me,
let me just say this. You

1091
01:28:33.760 --> 01:28:38.479
want everybody to answer that question whether
we think that there's any real risk of

1092
01:28:39.319 --> 01:28:43.800
Trump going to prison? Do you
want that question answered or not? Okay?

1093
01:28:44.279 --> 01:28:50.000
So so great? What what?
All right? Great, let's pass

1094
01:28:50.119 --> 01:28:53.680
that question around, be Pete,
what do you say? Who do you

1095
01:28:53.720 --> 01:28:57.359
want to start with? We'll pass
that question around. Is that is Trump

1096
01:28:57.520 --> 01:29:01.359
in any real jeopardy here regarding this
situation? Because I think that's a fair

1097
01:29:01.560 --> 01:29:04.560
question. What do you say,
VP? Who should I start with?

1098
01:29:06.159 --> 01:29:11.239
I mean, all of all these
you know, women coming out of the

1099
01:29:11.399 --> 01:29:15.239
holes, all these rope das,
all of it. Do you think he's

1100
01:29:15.279 --> 01:29:19.520
really gonna go to jail? Okay? So you want an overall blanket answer

1101
01:29:19.680 --> 01:29:25.439
as to whether he's gonna be actually
held accountable if indeed he did something.

1102
01:29:25.760 --> 01:29:30.119
Let's just assume for the sake of
this question. No, if that you

1103
01:29:30.159 --> 01:29:33.760
don't accountable, it's exactly what it
looks like the prince that's put us rifle

1104
01:29:33.840 --> 01:29:40.199
and jail for prison. Well,
you're answering the question now and not asking

1105
01:29:40.239 --> 01:29:43.399
a question. Okay, So what
is the question you want to ask.

1106
01:29:43.560 --> 01:29:45.119
Let's let's get that straight. What
is the question you want to ask?

1107
01:29:47.119 --> 01:29:53.800
Do you really think that's Donald Trump? Do you not really recognize that they're

1108
01:29:53.840 --> 01:29:57.359
really trying to put this man in
prison for the rest of his life?

1109
01:29:57.640 --> 01:30:01.359
Do you not really believe that?
Okay, so that's the question you want

1110
01:30:01.399 --> 01:30:08.720
answered? Is that right? That's
right? I want to see who's just

1111
01:30:08.920 --> 01:30:13.199
how far cuckoo everyone is? Okay, cool, let everybody answer it,

1112
01:30:13.640 --> 01:30:15.399
and that's what we'll do. Be
Pete, Who should we start with?

1113
01:30:15.720 --> 01:30:20.600
Do you really think that this is
a I guess Jimmy James wants to know.

1114
01:30:20.680 --> 01:30:25.920
Do you really think that this is
directly the president, the current president,

1115
01:30:26.119 --> 01:30:30.640
trying to put his political rival in
prison for real? Would that be

1116
01:30:30.720 --> 01:30:40.880
a fair way to phrase the question? Jimmy James, Uh not really you

1117
01:30:41.600 --> 01:30:45.600
do not really think that all of
these people are trying to put the man

1118
01:30:45.760 --> 01:30:50.800
in prison for the rest of his
life? Okay? So bluntly, is

1119
01:30:50.920 --> 01:30:56.800
there a realistic are all these different
people, the Justice I guess the Justice

1120
01:30:56.880 --> 01:31:00.119
Department, Biden? Everybody? Is
everybody trying to put Trump in prison for

1121
01:31:00.199 --> 01:31:05.079
the rest of his life? For
real? Is that the question? Yeah?

1122
01:31:05.279 --> 01:31:10.319
Do you or do you not believe
these people want Trump in prison for

1123
01:31:10.439 --> 01:31:15.039
the rest of his life? Okay, but that's the question you want answer,

1124
01:31:15.199 --> 01:31:19.600
right, Yes, So let's get
to it. Okay, I'm trying

1125
01:31:19.640 --> 01:31:23.000
to. I just want to make
sure we got the question clear. So

1126
01:31:23.319 --> 01:31:26.319
okay, So there you go,
be Pete, and we now have the

1127
01:31:26.399 --> 01:31:30.680
question who do we start with?
Well, I'd say we're going to start

1128
01:31:30.680 --> 01:31:34.439
with advance. But before we do
that, I've got a clarification on for

1129
01:31:34.600 --> 01:31:40.319
Jimmy. Apparently, when Rosto I
found an article from last year. When

1130
01:31:40.439 --> 01:31:45.760
Rosto sealed his documents and gave him
to the Johnson Library, the instructions were

1131
01:31:45.920 --> 01:31:51.680
that it was not to be opened
earlier than fifty years from this date June

1132
01:31:51.760 --> 01:32:00.279
twenty six, nineteen seventy three,
so conceivably June twenty six this year open

1133
01:32:00.359 --> 01:32:05.319
them. Well, that's that's his
instructions. That's his instructions. Okay,

1134
01:32:06.760 --> 01:32:10.279
yeah, and I'll put the I'll
put a link to this article. It's

1135
01:32:10.319 --> 01:32:14.720
a cash version, so if it
doesn't come up with some paywall, don't

1136
01:32:14.760 --> 01:32:16.680
blame me. But this is the
article. It's on the intercept. I

1137
01:32:16.720 --> 01:32:20.479
thought it was a pretty good explanation
as to what went on there. You

1138
01:32:20.600 --> 01:32:26.119
go. Okay, So there for
clarification. Now, who shall we do?

1139
01:32:26.199 --> 01:32:29.319
You want to start with Vance on
this? Uh? Do you think

1140
01:32:30.239 --> 01:32:33.159
that a whole bunch of people,
all these people are trying to put Trump

1141
01:32:33.279 --> 01:32:35.960
in prison for the rest of his
life? I believe that's the question,

1142
01:32:36.079 --> 01:32:41.840
Jimmy James asked, right, yes, okay, it's Vance. What is

1143
01:32:41.880 --> 01:32:46.159
your view? And everybody? Let
everybody answer? Please go ahead? Vance?

1144
01:32:48.640 --> 01:32:51.479
All right, Well, you know, basically that's kind of a loaded

1145
01:32:51.600 --> 01:32:55.640
questions. But I'll just you know, break it down. I'll tell you

1146
01:32:55.720 --> 01:33:00.920
what I believe you know, and
I believe you know. We could say,

1147
01:33:00.039 --> 01:33:03.960
yes that the people that he's talking
about really want him to go to

1148
01:33:04.079 --> 01:33:09.039
jail, Okay, but then the
bigger question is will he go to jail.

1149
01:33:09.600 --> 01:33:12.520
No, he's not going to go
to jail. You know, my,

1150
01:33:12.800 --> 01:33:16.399
my, you know, Trump is
a character of a character, and

1151
01:33:17.079 --> 01:33:23.880
he is. This is the wwe
political system that we have here, and

1152
01:33:24.119 --> 01:33:27.560
he is he is. His role
right now is to be the victim.

1153
01:33:28.000 --> 01:33:30.199
And then he can claim, you
know, just like all this stuff about

1154
01:33:30.239 --> 01:33:34.439
the elections, every election we've had
since I've been alive has been influenced one

1155
01:33:34.479 --> 01:33:40.399
way or another, and and and
so you know, uh so I don't

1156
01:33:40.439 --> 01:33:43.479
really know how to answer the question, but what I believe is that,

1157
01:33:43.920 --> 01:33:51.039
you know, it's all a distraction. Trump is definitely not innocent as far

1158
01:33:51.159 --> 01:33:57.000
as his character goes. And you
know, so I really don't care.

1159
01:33:57.319 --> 01:34:00.239
You know, It's like I hope
he gets convicted of something because he has

1160
01:34:00.520 --> 01:34:05.159
a long history of being you know, you know, Chuck, you know,

1161
01:34:05.279 --> 01:34:08.960
this is in the eighties, he
was a joke. He was a

1162
01:34:09.079 --> 01:34:12.319
joke. He was he was you
know, people you know made fun of

1163
01:34:12.439 --> 01:34:16.039
him. He went bankrupt with casinos, etcetera, etcetera. You know,

1164
01:34:16.720 --> 01:34:20.039
so you know, that's all I
can say, is like, you know

1165
01:34:20.239 --> 01:34:26.039
that it doesn't matter if he wins
or Biden wins, or if if if

1166
01:34:26.159 --> 01:34:32.800
JF RFK wins. The system hadn't
changed Okay, so this is exactly what

1167
01:34:33.000 --> 01:34:38.720
they want us to be focused on
and worried about and people fighting over,

1168
01:34:39.119 --> 01:34:43.119
instead of looking at the system that
is screwing you and has inflated your money

1169
01:34:43.560 --> 01:34:47.720
to to where nobody can afford to
live anymore. Everybody's got to you know,

1170
01:34:48.880 --> 01:34:54.079
it's just insane, you know,
anybody that believes anything that's going on

1171
01:34:54.239 --> 01:34:59.800
in this current political dynamic is just
and based on any type of individual freedoms

1172
01:34:59.840 --> 01:35:05.199
and rights and and anything to the
capitalism, even it ain't happen, has

1173
01:35:05.239 --> 01:35:10.039
happening, like now, come to
the next. Okay, come on,

1174
01:35:12.560 --> 01:35:16.520
d thank you, Jimmy. Okay, fair enough. Vance kind of did

1175
01:35:16.600 --> 01:35:20.119
go around in a circle there,
So I get it. It's you don't

1176
01:35:20.159 --> 01:35:23.760
know how to answer the question,
because how serious do you take this to

1177
01:35:23.840 --> 01:35:28.159
begin with? Is where I'm coming
down from what Vance said. Um but

1178
01:35:28.319 --> 01:35:36.319
okay, now, who's next,
be Pete Harlan? Go ahead? Well,

1179
01:35:36.399 --> 01:35:42.399
I pretty much agree with pretty much
what Vance said really about. I

1180
01:35:42.479 --> 01:35:45.119
don't think I'm really adding to it
is now. I do not think he's

1181
01:35:45.239 --> 01:35:50.720
ever gonna be in Vancous. Go
far as now, Jimmy, Jimmy,

1182
01:35:50.800 --> 01:36:00.119
Jimmy, Jimmy. Hang on,
WHOA, Jimmy, hold on? WHOA?

1183
01:36:00.319 --> 01:36:03.760
Harlan, Hold on? Everybody,
Hold on, everybody, hold on,

1184
01:36:03.840 --> 01:36:08.439
because I put Jimmy on hold.
Harland, hang on a second.

1185
01:36:09.840 --> 01:36:13.039
I want everybody to be able to
answer, Jimmy, so let them answer

1186
01:36:13.079 --> 01:36:17.039
and finish before you come in.
Okay, So let's leave everybody on hold

1187
01:36:17.079 --> 01:36:20.199
who's not talking, and Chris,
I'm gonna have to trust you because I

1188
01:36:20.239 --> 01:36:23.800
don't want to have to mute you
on Skype. But I'm sure I can.

1189
01:36:24.640 --> 01:36:27.840
Everybody stay on hold. Let them
answer the question, please, because

1190
01:36:27.880 --> 01:36:30.720
I didn't get Harland's whole answer at
all, except he kind of agrees with

1191
01:36:30.720 --> 01:36:34.840
advance that he was elaborating, and
then so let's let him answer. Harlan

1192
01:36:34.960 --> 01:36:42.600
go ahead, okay, Hey,
matter of fact is to go back to

1193
01:36:42.720 --> 01:36:45.720
his question. Hey, it looked
like to me that he refined it two

1194
01:36:45.800 --> 01:36:50.439
or three times, but overall that
might be my fault. That might be

1195
01:36:50.560 --> 01:36:58.119
my fault, Harland. Sorry,
go ahead. There's no danger of him

1196
01:36:58.239 --> 01:37:02.319
ever gone to Jack. There's no
There's more danger anybody that's you know,

1197
01:37:02.560 --> 01:37:05.720
on the line that I ever hear
this, whether if it's you know,

1198
01:37:05.960 --> 01:37:12.760
today, or if it's thirty years
any of us can have something drummed up

1199
01:37:12.840 --> 01:37:16.439
on us, dick something up and
put us in jail, no matter what

1200
01:37:16.600 --> 01:37:20.760
any of these people that upile on
the political system is. I'm sorry,

1201
01:37:20.840 --> 01:37:25.079
that's my opinion, and I don't
think it too many people is going to

1202
01:37:25.119 --> 01:37:30.720
disagreep it. Far as to the
meat and potatoes of the question, well,

1203
01:37:30.760 --> 01:37:35.239
I think these people are trying to
put him in jail. Well outside

1204
01:37:35.359 --> 01:37:42.079
of the everyday liberal, never trumper, trump haiter, whatever you want to

1205
01:37:42.119 --> 01:37:45.079
call them, I do agree with
Jimmy is totally silly because I always done

1206
01:37:45.119 --> 01:37:50.039
sitting here sucking the hour of the
conversations that need to be had, especially

1207
01:37:50.640 --> 01:37:55.840
on his performance and his record and
his flip flops. Thought he was president

1208
01:37:57.039 --> 01:38:00.600
now. The only thing else that
I've really got to say about it without

1209
01:38:00.680 --> 01:38:06.239
taking another ten minutes is in a
nutshell. I think that you know,

1210
01:38:06.760 --> 01:38:12.680
as far as the upper end of
the Democrats factrum, you know, they're

1211
01:38:12.760 --> 01:38:16.760
just pushing him because they want him
to be the nominee, because they think

1212
01:38:16.840 --> 01:38:20.760
he'll be the easiest one debats.
If you look back, yes, Elon

1213
01:38:20.920 --> 01:38:26.560
must took a pole to let him
back on Facebook, didn't and he's been

1214
01:38:26.640 --> 01:38:31.279
back on there CNN give him,
you know, a couple hours free television

1215
01:38:31.359 --> 01:38:35.840
time. All of a sudden Trump
is not the devil and the evil to

1216
01:38:36.000 --> 01:38:41.520
democracy? Is they push that for
over two years, you know, starting

1217
01:38:41.520 --> 01:38:45.239
a couple of months, I think
it's they definitely want him to be the

1218
01:38:45.359 --> 01:38:49.359
nominee on the left because they know
he'll be the easiest debates. As far

1219
01:38:49.439 --> 01:38:54.960
as him going to jail, you
know, I just think that's just got

1220
01:38:55.000 --> 01:38:58.479
a joke to say the least.
And I don't know if Jimmy heard what

1221
01:38:58.880 --> 01:39:02.079
you know, I was saying earlier. It doesn't look like as many people

1222
01:39:02.159 --> 01:39:06.239
as buying this because not as many
as a volume of people that I'm saying

1223
01:39:06.319 --> 01:39:12.560
on social media is not whipped up
into a fervor of the way they was

1224
01:39:12.680 --> 01:39:15.560
over the New York charge, right, And like men A friend line has

1225
01:39:15.600 --> 01:39:19.279
been talking about the last couple of
days, what's next? Are they going

1226
01:39:19.319 --> 01:39:24.439
to actually show him being tased?
Are they going to show the Secret Service

1227
01:39:24.720 --> 01:39:29.479
in the US Marshall's fist fighting because
they're actually wanting to put him in handcuffs?

1228
01:39:30.359 --> 01:39:32.119
You know, I mean, what
next? It's a long time to

1229
01:39:32.199 --> 01:39:36.359
the first primaries, but you know, no, he has no danger of

1230
01:39:36.479 --> 01:39:40.760
actually going to jail. He may
hit my cofftence money here and Irban,

1231
01:39:40.840 --> 01:39:45.119
how much is he grifted off people
since the atal action? How much more

1232
01:39:45.159 --> 01:39:48.640
money is he gonna raise before you
know the next And that's you know pretty

1233
01:39:48.720 --> 01:39:51.520
much my answer. All right,
well, I'm gonna put you on hold

1234
01:39:51.600 --> 01:39:55.000
with that. I mean, look, he is making a million dollars a

1235
01:39:55.119 --> 01:40:00.600
day off of fundraising. It looks
like from what we can see reported regarding

1236
01:40:00.680 --> 01:40:02.840
this, and he's definitely pushing I'm
on the mailing list. I see him.

1237
01:40:03.359 --> 01:40:09.640
So I'm on the fundraiser mailing list. Okay, I see what's being

1238
01:40:09.720 --> 01:40:13.680
raised, and I see what's being
reported publicly about what's being disclosed. It

1239
01:40:13.760 --> 01:40:16.119
looks like about a million dollars a
day is what he's getting off of this.

1240
01:40:16.279 --> 01:40:21.319
But anyway, so Harlan's answer is
that, and I gotta go with

1241
01:40:21.479 --> 01:40:27.319
the idea that the never Trump or
Democrat is certainly sitting there licking their chops,

1242
01:40:27.359 --> 01:40:29.079
going, oh, he's going to
prison. He's going to prison.

1243
01:40:29.840 --> 01:40:33.960
But how many of those really are
there? Not as many as the media

1244
01:40:34.079 --> 01:40:38.159
wants to make you think. And
certainly CNN has been a lot more friendly

1245
01:40:38.199 --> 01:40:43.399
to the GOP side of the equation
lately, even giving them a constant string

1246
01:40:43.479 --> 01:40:48.000
of town halls, Mike Pence,
Chris Christie, everybody has gotten a town

1247
01:40:48.079 --> 01:40:53.039
hall, right, Even Trump got
a town hall at a CNN recently.

1248
01:40:53.479 --> 01:40:56.600
So you know, again, I
still haven't given my answer. But b

1249
01:40:56.760 --> 01:41:00.840
Pete, I guess that leaves us
with Chris, doesn't it. Yep,

1250
01:41:00.279 --> 01:41:06.479
sure it does. They'll never put
they'll never set that precedent. He's playing

1251
01:41:06.560 --> 01:41:13.159
a part. He's playing a role. And just like how Hillary, he

1252
01:41:13.199 --> 01:41:16.479
didn't he didn't put Hillary in prison. He's not being put in prison because

1253
01:41:17.640 --> 01:41:21.479
they all the people that run the
show, they run both sides. And

1254
01:41:21.560 --> 01:41:27.680
I'm so sick of talking about Donald
Trump and Joe Biden. And that's about

1255
01:41:27.720 --> 01:41:30.920
it, Chuck. So there you
have it now, my full answer,

1256
01:41:31.000 --> 01:41:35.399
and then I'm gonna pop the phone
back up and let Jimmy back on because

1257
01:41:35.680 --> 01:41:41.760
I think he's gonna want to respond
when I'm done. Although wait a minute,

1258
01:41:41.880 --> 01:41:45.279
b p do you have a view
on this as to whether there is

1259
01:41:45.319 --> 01:41:48.560
a realistic desire for all these people, as Jimmy said, to try and

1260
01:41:48.680 --> 01:41:51.479
lock Trump up. I guess we
should go with you, and then I'll

1261
01:41:51.560 --> 01:41:58.920
cap it and turn Jimmy James back
on. Yeah, I'll try to answer

1262
01:41:59.000 --> 01:42:02.279
every aspect of question, because it
seems like a you know, the COVID

1263
01:42:02.399 --> 01:42:05.279
virus has got a little points,
a bunch of points sticking out on at

1264
01:42:05.359 --> 01:42:09.119
one. I think, yes,
there are a lot of people out there

1265
01:42:09.159 --> 01:42:13.319
that would love to see Trump go
to jail. Two, the system is

1266
01:42:13.359 --> 01:42:15.880
corrupt, and I have no faith
in the system. I think that the

1267
01:42:16.039 --> 01:42:20.720
system is so corrupt that there is
a possibility that, yes, he could

1268
01:42:21.279 --> 01:42:25.880
be sentenced to jail. Now the
question is there he's going to have to

1269
01:42:25.960 --> 01:42:30.520
show up or whether it be let
out on appeal and then the decision dropped

1270
01:42:30.600 --> 01:42:34.359
later on. But there is a
chance. I think the system is so

1271
01:42:34.640 --> 01:42:40.399
screwed up that, yes, there
is a chance that even Trump could spend

1272
01:42:40.439 --> 01:42:44.039
a day in jail over this,
because there's some things that he did in

1273
01:42:44.239 --> 01:42:54.359
this latest case that the system has
to go after him. Four And it's

1274
01:42:54.399 --> 01:42:57.680
a convoluted explanation, and I don't
know if people are going to agree with

1275
01:42:57.760 --> 01:43:00.359
me or not, but there's a
few things in those third seven bounced that

1276
01:43:00.479 --> 01:43:03.800
yes he did, and he discussed
them on tape, and that's the problem.

1277
01:43:03.880 --> 01:43:08.359
He shot himself in the foot on
this one because his ego is so

1278
01:43:08.560 --> 01:43:12.880
big he didn't think he'd have to
suffer any repercussions for it, and he

1279
01:43:13.119 --> 01:43:17.439
very well might. That's how corrupt
this Department of Justice is under this president.

1280
01:43:17.760 --> 01:43:23.279
The FBI needs to be completely gutted
as far as I'm concerned. They're

1281
01:43:23.319 --> 01:43:27.439
one of the most corrupt organizations that
the government is funding right now. The

1282
01:43:27.600 --> 01:43:33.359
FBI and any other intelligence related alphabet
you want to put together. Yeah,

1283
01:43:33.800 --> 01:43:38.239
they all need to be gone through
and we need to clean house. That

1284
01:43:38.359 --> 01:43:41.800
ain't going to happen. There's too
many people embedded in it that are untouched.

1285
01:43:41.880 --> 01:43:45.000
Yes, there are people that are
untouchable in this world, and we

1286
01:43:45.159 --> 01:43:47.199
have to deal with them on a
daily basis. And that's the problem.

1287
01:43:47.800 --> 01:43:54.720
But do I think do I honestly
think he'll go to jail. No,

1288
01:43:55.439 --> 01:43:59.199
but I'm playing that there is a
chance he might spend a day there.

1289
01:44:00.479 --> 01:44:04.319
It's that screwed up. I'll leave
it at that. Okay, fair enough.

1290
01:44:04.600 --> 01:44:08.520
So there's all the answers, with
the exception of mine. Like I

1291
01:44:08.560 --> 01:44:11.680
said, I'll cap it and then
let Jimmy James back on to respond to

1292
01:44:11.760 --> 01:44:17.640
everybody. But here's the thing I'm
figuring as follows, We're going to get

1293
01:44:17.680 --> 01:44:23.560
close to a selection time and the
bs of the election is going to happen,

1294
01:44:24.119 --> 01:44:27.479
and when we get close enough to
it, all this is going to

1295
01:44:27.560 --> 01:44:30.800
have to be put on hold.
It's been out there, it's been dangled

1296
01:44:30.880 --> 01:44:36.000
as a way to increase excitement.
You got to introduce some jeopardy into your

1297
01:44:36.119 --> 01:44:43.279
narrative structure in order to have tension
for dramatic effect. So that is what

1298
01:44:43.479 --> 01:44:47.479
is going on. Is there a
possibility that this guy ultimately will go to

1299
01:44:47.640 --> 01:44:51.159
prison whether he did something wrong or
not. Well, if he was an

1300
01:44:51.159 --> 01:44:55.520
average citizen, I would say,
look, flip a coin, because you

1301
01:44:55.600 --> 01:45:00.399
don't know. However, he's not, so I'm thinking that has one of

1302
01:45:00.439 --> 01:45:03.439
the privileged people. No, not
a day in prison. It would be

1303
01:45:03.520 --> 01:45:08.319
a serious shocker to my system and
my understanding of the way the system is.

1304
01:45:08.800 --> 01:45:13.239
If he does go to jail for
any of this, Now, could

1305
01:45:13.279 --> 01:45:18.199
he conceivably plead guilty to something blah
blah? Not before selection time, because

1306
01:45:18.239 --> 01:45:23.159
I think they'll still dangle him as
a choice. He has to be dangled

1307
01:45:23.159 --> 01:45:28.039
as a choice. What else do
they have on the GOP side, either

1308
01:45:28.319 --> 01:45:31.920
no personality to santists or all personality, But nobody's gonna vote for the fat

1309
01:45:31.960 --> 01:45:39.840
bastard from Jersey. Okay, it's
just not happening, you know, Nicki

1310
01:45:39.960 --> 01:45:45.039
Haley. Uh No, just no, even though I would say she's one

1311
01:45:45.039 --> 01:45:50.039
of the more rational people on the
GOP side. But even so, it

1312
01:45:50.239 --> 01:45:55.039
is it is ridiculous that this whole
thing is ridiculous. And here's the funny

1313
01:45:55.079 --> 01:45:59.239
part. The majority of what it
is they're trying to charge him with is

1314
01:45:59.319 --> 01:46:02.640
so convo, looted and stupid.
On the face of it. As much

1315
01:46:02.680 --> 01:46:08.600
as I would not mind seeing him
go to prison personally, this is not

1316
01:46:08.720 --> 01:46:13.560
the way to get there. None
of this is relevant to what I think

1317
01:46:13.600 --> 01:46:17.920
he's actually done wrong because people that
actually do the wrong thing, that rise

1318
01:46:18.000 --> 01:46:23.239
to power don't pay for it.
Like I said, he's gonna go to

1319
01:46:23.359 --> 01:46:27.640
prison right next to the other presidents
that went to prison afterwards, which is

1320
01:46:27.920 --> 01:46:31.199
none. So that's the way I
see it. I think it's a big

1321
01:46:31.279 --> 01:46:34.560
sham. I think it's a big
game. I think it's all about playing

1322
01:46:34.600 --> 01:46:38.520
this out, seeing what the public
is gonna buy, what they're not gonna

1323
01:46:38.560 --> 01:46:43.399
buy. I think that there is
a contingent out there of yes, indeed,

1324
01:46:43.840 --> 01:46:50.600
the absolutely Trump deranged democrat. There
is a strain of that out there.

1325
01:46:50.800 --> 01:46:57.039
It's not huge, it's not running
the government in my mind, but

1326
01:46:57.199 --> 01:47:00.920
it is running part of the media. Cannot all of it, but part

1327
01:47:00.960 --> 01:47:04.119
of it. Just like there's a
contingent out there that, regardless of whether

1328
01:47:04.159 --> 01:47:09.079
they have evidence or not, is
going to make up all sorts of cases

1329
01:47:09.119 --> 01:47:13.479
and add on too and exaggerate cases
going after the other side of the equation.

1330
01:47:14.720 --> 01:47:18.439
Are there legitimate questions? Is their
criminality on both sides of this issue?

1331
01:47:18.520 --> 01:47:23.960
Absolutely? Will anybody actually pay for
it? Well, usually the big

1332
01:47:24.079 --> 01:47:27.239
cheese is not the one taken out
of the fridge and left or rot.

1333
01:47:28.079 --> 01:47:30.640
So I think he'll be fine.
I think it's good for him to raise

1334
01:47:30.720 --> 01:47:35.079
money on He's doing that quite well. Whether he shows up at the Cuban

1335
01:47:35.159 --> 01:47:41.479
restaurant and ask for burgers or not, it's irrelevant because at the end of

1336
01:47:41.520 --> 01:47:44.079
the day, it's a big show. I don't think we're going to see

1337
01:47:44.159 --> 01:47:46.800
him tasted like Harlan's describing. I
don't think they're going to go that far.

1338
01:47:47.439 --> 01:47:50.079
I mean, anybody's got to know. I mean, Biden's an old

1339
01:47:50.119 --> 01:47:53.760
man. Trump's an old man.
You can't be tasted an old man.

1340
01:47:53.920 --> 01:47:57.239
Come on, I mean, even
if you hate poor Joe, you don't

1341
01:47:57.279 --> 01:48:00.359
want to taste them. I mean, that's just ridiculous torture on somebody who

1342
01:48:00.479 --> 01:48:05.199
is, you know, not mentally
capable. I mean, you know I

1343
01:48:05.279 --> 01:48:10.880
don't agree with torturing the mentally challenged. Come on, do you? Maybe

1344
01:48:10.920 --> 01:48:15.479
you do? Maybe you hate Biden
enough, but yeah, I'd taste that

1345
01:48:15.600 --> 01:48:17.800
bastard in a minute. All right, I can't. I can't. I

1346
01:48:17.840 --> 01:48:20.720
wouldn't even taste Trump because you know, come on, the guy, the

1347
01:48:20.800 --> 01:48:23.840
guy can't stand it. I mean, I don't want to. I don't

1348
01:48:23.840 --> 01:48:27.119
want to kill the man. You
know, I'm not out to kill the

1349
01:48:27.159 --> 01:48:30.359
guy. He's just he's just a
jackass, real estate hustler from Queens.

1350
01:48:30.760 --> 01:48:33.680
He's not that evil. He's not
evil enough to be evil. You know

1351
01:48:34.520 --> 01:48:38.560
that. I don't want to taste
Trump. I want to taste Biden.

1352
01:48:38.720 --> 01:48:40.840
Oh. I know he's triggered a
couple of times. No, I got

1353
01:48:40.880 --> 01:48:43.239
you. You want to taste Bide. But I wouldn't taste either one of

1354
01:48:43.319 --> 01:48:47.319
them because they're old. Man.
Somebody just needs to put grandpa's back into

1355
01:48:47.399 --> 01:48:50.720
homes and let him yell at each
other there and leave us out of it

1356
01:48:53.800 --> 01:48:57.720
anyway. That's what I think.
Trump is not gonna pay for anything.

1357
01:48:57.800 --> 01:49:00.399
Whether he did something wrong or not, is irrela. We're not being shown

1358
01:49:00.439 --> 01:49:05.000
it anyway. The Justice Department is
indeed corrupt, the FPI is indeed corrupt.

1359
01:49:05.279 --> 01:49:10.399
And it's not just all corrupt on
the left wingside or Barber Burr.

1360
01:49:10.800 --> 01:49:14.239
It's just they do what they want. They apply the laws, they see

1361
01:49:15.319 --> 01:49:18.319
the law wanting it to be.
It doesn't matter. They do whatever the

1362
01:49:18.399 --> 01:49:24.399
hell they want. So there you
go. Is Trump literally gonna go to

1363
01:49:24.520 --> 01:49:28.640
jail? Let me go back to
Jimmy's actual question or all these people literally

1364
01:49:28.720 --> 01:49:32.199
want him to go to jail.
I think he is way less useful if

1365
01:49:32.279 --> 01:49:38.560
he actually goes to jail. I
really do so. I'm thinking to myself

1366
01:49:38.640 --> 01:49:42.720
that the people that actually control things, they don't want this guy in prison

1367
01:49:43.039 --> 01:49:47.760
in jeopardy making a spectacle of himself. Yes. Absolutely, that's how the

1368
01:49:48.199 --> 01:49:53.399
ratings game gets one. That's how
the media game gets one. That's how

1369
01:49:53.560 --> 01:49:58.239
the American political game gets one.
Is all the jeopardy, all of the

1370
01:49:58.359 --> 01:50:03.159
circumstance, all of that is absolutely
useful and so long as it is no

1371
01:50:03.359 --> 01:50:06.279
reason to put him in prison,
no reason to put him in the ground,

1372
01:50:06.760 --> 01:50:10.840
No reason to get rid of Brandon, no reason to get rid of

1373
01:50:10.920 --> 01:50:16.840
the hair sniffing uh commander in chef. No reason to even figure where is

1374
01:50:16.880 --> 01:50:20.239
Kamala by the way, she can't
run. Uh. No no reason to

1375
01:50:20.359 --> 01:50:24.439
bother with any of it, or
to ask Mike Pence again if he's willing

1376
01:50:24.520 --> 01:50:27.680
to, uh, you know,
give a pardon, which is another thing,

1377
01:50:28.199 --> 01:50:31.279
even if he's not useful in the
run for twenty twenty four, even

1378
01:50:31.319 --> 01:50:38.079
if he somehow got disqualified sideline directly, literally, figuratively, legally. Um,

1379
01:50:39.079 --> 01:50:42.319
you know, somebody will come in
there and pardon them. Somebody will

1380
01:50:42.399 --> 01:50:45.439
let him go anyway, and it's
just the way it'll be. That's the

1381
01:50:45.520 --> 01:50:48.720
way I see it. So with
that, I'm gonna let Jimmy James back

1382
01:50:48.760 --> 01:50:55.119
on and god knows what's going to
happen, But we've only got about like

1383
01:50:55.279 --> 01:50:58.880
seven minutes left, and I'm gonna
let this run anyhow. Maybe I'll let

1384
01:50:58.920 --> 01:51:02.039
everybody get shout out beyond that seven
minutes, but we're gonna give it back

1385
01:51:02.079 --> 01:51:05.760
to Jimmy James and see what he's
got to say. And let's see here.

1386
01:51:05.800 --> 01:51:09.800
Now I've got two lines up so
let's hope that this is the right

1387
01:51:09.840 --> 01:51:15.840
one. Jimmy, is that you
Yes, Okay, I had two caller

1388
01:51:15.920 --> 01:51:20.960
I used with your name on it. We'll go ahead. Yeah, you've

1389
01:51:21.000 --> 01:51:26.319
got the right one. Alright.
Alright, So to get some revelations to

1390
01:51:26.600 --> 01:51:30.880
some conversation, I need to go
back ten minutes, one in Harlan and

1391
01:51:30.000 --> 01:51:35.640
you one eighth ship. I wanted
to ask Harlan why he didn't think Hugh

1392
01:51:35.880 --> 01:51:42.760
Trump would go to jail because A
he wasn't guilty, or b because the

1393
01:51:42.960 --> 01:51:46.840
man won't flood him. Okay,
well, I'll bring Harlan on in a

1394
01:51:46.920 --> 01:51:50.079
minute. I'll bring Harlan on in
a minute, but I want you to

1395
01:51:50.159 --> 01:52:00.319
get through without without argument. First, you one, now, I want

1396
01:52:00.399 --> 01:52:03.119
you to make your statement and observations
first, and then we'll go back to

1397
01:52:03.199 --> 01:52:05.520
Harlan if you got anything. I
mean, is that all you want to

1398
01:52:05.560 --> 01:52:10.439
address is only what Harlan said,
because you know, I want to give

1399
01:52:10.479 --> 01:52:16.199
you a chance to speak without anybody
interrupting you. I don't mind being interrupted,

1400
01:52:16.359 --> 01:52:20.600
Chuck. That's how conversations work.
Yeah, I know, but otherwise

1401
01:52:20.680 --> 01:52:24.800
it's just a guy talk to him, right, But it becomes too messy

1402
01:52:24.880 --> 01:52:28.119
on the radio when people are talking
over each other. That's why I'm directing

1403
01:52:28.159 --> 01:52:30.560
it this way. So please,
by all means, say what you got

1404
01:52:30.680 --> 01:52:35.880
to say, and then I'll bring
Harlan on. Well, you guys are

1405
01:52:35.960 --> 01:52:42.920
loopy. You seem to think that
there's some sort who exactly are these people

1406
01:52:43.079 --> 01:52:49.319
that are running the world? Chuck
and Dance and Harlan and Chris. Can't

1407
01:52:49.359 --> 01:52:55.279
forget Chris. He says, it's
it's just all fun and games. So

1408
01:52:55.720 --> 01:53:00.439
who is running this ship? I
don't know, Jimmy, I don't.

1409
01:53:00.640 --> 01:53:03.279
I don't go out and talk about
it as if I do so. But

1410
01:53:03.479 --> 01:53:08.359
you think that Trump is the great
Savior. I don't know why. He

1411
01:53:08.520 --> 01:53:16.479
has not done anything to a lot
better prep than Biden. I don't know.

1412
01:53:17.880 --> 01:53:23.399
I'm not a lefty either, so
I don't like any he is a

1413
01:53:23.520 --> 01:53:29.640
better president than Biden? Who is
sorry? Who has planned? Oh your

1414
01:53:29.680 --> 01:53:31.279
fus plant would be a better prep. Well, he's got more brain cells.

1415
01:53:34.199 --> 01:53:40.479
It's okay anyway, I know.
Go ahead, Jimmy, anything else

1416
01:53:40.520 --> 01:53:42.520
you want to add to that,
or you want me to get Harlan?

1417
01:53:42.640 --> 01:53:49.920
Now, well, of course you're
some of you are quasi right. Yes,

1418
01:53:50.199 --> 01:53:55.520
this is all distractions because there was
a hell of a lot of real

1419
01:53:56.039 --> 01:54:03.600
evidence coming out about real crime from
the Biden Crime Syndicate CCP. Okay,

1420
01:54:03.680 --> 01:54:09.560
thank you, Okay, fair enough. So now we'll bring Harlan on and

1421
01:54:09.640 --> 01:54:13.640
you can address the question to Harlan, and then we'll get everybody's final thoughts

1422
01:54:13.680 --> 01:54:16.000
for the week. I guess,
and go around the table. Let's see

1423
01:54:16.279 --> 01:54:21.680
Harland. Harlan. Uh, there
you are, Harland. Okay, go

1424
01:54:21.720 --> 01:54:25.960
ahead, Jimmy, ask your question
directly. Harland is back on live on

1425
01:54:26.119 --> 01:54:32.840
the line. Oh yeah, when
he said that, you have no doubt

1426
01:54:32.960 --> 01:54:39.600
that Trump will not go to jail
with that because he never really committed any

1427
01:54:39.720 --> 01:54:45.319
crimes? Or is it because the
man who runs the universe doesn't want him

1428
01:54:45.880 --> 01:54:51.239
and jail? And if so,
who is the man? Thank you?

1429
01:54:55.119 --> 01:55:00.119
Okay, Harlan? Good, Yes, sir, yes sir. But I

1430
01:55:00.720 --> 01:55:03.640
can say needed so that way when
I go to talk and I ain't gonna

1431
01:55:03.640 --> 01:55:08.439
get getting molested again, or I
may not, that's gonna work. I

1432
01:55:08.560 --> 01:55:11.319
have the floor. Yeah you got, I'll tell you what you got the

1433
01:55:11.399 --> 01:55:15.399
floor mute, Jimmy James, so
that you're totally unmolested by anybody. Go

1434
01:55:15.439 --> 01:55:20.920
ahead. Well, first of all, I don't know who the man is.

1435
01:55:23.159 --> 01:55:26.680
As far as that goes, all
I'm saying is is no, I

1436
01:55:26.840 --> 01:55:32.279
don't seem going to jail under no
circumstances. I mean actually to go to

1437
01:55:32.399 --> 01:55:36.760
jail like the average person would.
Now, I just don't see it.

1438
01:55:39.119 --> 01:55:43.199
As far as about you know this
old excuse that well he's you know,

1439
01:55:43.319 --> 01:55:47.319
he's buttering bite. Well, like
BP said, who wouldn't be I mean

1440
01:55:47.399 --> 01:55:53.600
everybody on this phone call right now, most people listening would think almost anybody

1441
01:55:53.680 --> 01:55:57.439
would be better. And by just
like there's a lot of people would think

1442
01:55:57.520 --> 01:56:00.520
almost anybody be better. In Trump, we've done had Trump for thority.

1443
01:56:01.359 --> 01:56:05.920
We've seen what the dell was.
He tells people anything they want to hear.

1444
01:56:06.560 --> 01:56:10.039
And you know some people, and
I think you're one of them.

1445
01:56:10.479 --> 01:56:15.359
You will listen to anything. Who
is this queue? Who's the white hats?

1446
01:56:15.840 --> 01:56:18.960
When's always two week Chicken gonna kick
in? That? We sat here

1447
01:56:18.960 --> 01:56:25.760
and listen to four Day Chest for
four years solid, and then we'd still

1448
01:56:25.840 --> 01:56:29.760
be listening at every day for that
man for that January sixth gimmick got big

1449
01:56:29.840 --> 01:56:35.239
griff that went bad, And now
everybody is lumped in with them. And

1450
01:56:35.399 --> 01:56:40.680
I'm not saying I'll in people's bad
or nothing like that. We all pretty

1451
01:56:40.760 --> 01:56:43.960
much know what the dell is.
It was a set up. But I

1452
01:56:44.119 --> 01:56:49.560
get sick and tird of just hearing
this. Obama's running the show. You

1453
01:56:49.680 --> 01:56:55.560
know, Trump is buttering Biden and
blah blah blah blah blah. I got

1454
01:56:55.720 --> 01:56:59.880
news for you. You need to
start thinking what's your next gimmick? Where?

1455
01:57:00.000 --> 01:57:05.399
And this is over with next year? And again, what's it going

1456
01:57:05.439 --> 01:57:09.319
to be if he did get back
in there and it's worser than what it

1457
01:57:09.479 --> 01:57:14.680
was the first time, everything's pointing
and he can't win. He barely got

1458
01:57:14.720 --> 01:57:18.079
in there. I thought he was
the like forty s thousand votes. Excuse

1459
01:57:18.199 --> 01:57:25.439
me, Tony Harterburn said several times
about eighty sums house. How can he

1460
01:57:25.520 --> 01:57:30.760
get in him? I mean,
answer that, explain how's he going to

1461
01:57:30.800 --> 01:57:33.199
get back in there? You know? I mean I've seen all these hope

1462
01:57:33.319 --> 01:57:40.359
on videos from different channels on YouTube
talking about the red wave, and you've

1463
01:57:40.399 --> 01:57:45.319
seen the red wave was a pink
sting. But no, I don't think

1464
01:57:45.359 --> 01:57:47.760
he's gone just for the simple factor
who he is, where he's been,

1465
01:57:47.920 --> 01:57:51.600
he's been president, and he's a
multi vega. Now he's not going to

1466
01:57:51.640 --> 01:57:59.000
get if they if he'd been this
quote big alphabl he just told him in

1467
01:57:59.119 --> 01:58:01.239
New York, kiss my ass,
I'm not coming, you know what I

1468
01:58:01.279 --> 01:58:04.399
mean, That's exactly what hell I
tell them. I writing Miles, a

1469
01:58:04.479 --> 01:58:10.199
regular fucking person. Excuse my language, but I mean, get real.

1470
01:58:10.880 --> 01:58:15.000
I mean, this legend of the
Chosen One, if enough people was buying

1471
01:58:15.039 --> 01:58:19.520
it, they'd be out in the
streets screaming and hollering. You know,

1472
01:58:19.920 --> 01:58:24.720
thousands of phone, thousands of people. Again, most people they've seen it,

1473
01:58:24.880 --> 01:58:28.680
they know it, they know what
the deal is. They're just sitting

1474
01:58:28.720 --> 01:58:32.640
here cheering a football game. Basically, I don't know what the answer is.

1475
01:58:33.279 --> 01:58:36.680
I don't know exactly who all these
people is. I don't even consider

1476
01:58:36.760 --> 01:58:43.039
myself a conspiracy theres I'm just a
pattern. As you keep saying some of

1477
01:58:43.119 --> 01:58:46.199
the same stuff over and over and
when using mystograph, and you know,

1478
01:58:46.359 --> 01:58:50.479
things, seems like that keeps going
downhill. I mean him much worser.

1479
01:58:51.319 --> 01:58:59.079
Actually isn't Underbiden than is under Trunk. I mean really, I mean,

1480
01:58:59.199 --> 01:59:02.800
like I said, but the last
turn they you know, his economy was

1481
01:59:02.920 --> 01:59:06.840
great. They had to print about
you know, eleven and a half troyal

1482
01:59:06.960 --> 01:59:13.600
trigging between you know, the fall
of twenty nineteen, from the middle of

1483
01:59:13.720 --> 01:59:17.920
twenty twenty, between all the slush
funds and you know several begging here and

1484
01:59:18.119 --> 01:59:25.399
several bigon iron trying to keep every
sign crop that was that by spout.

1485
01:59:26.239 --> 01:59:30.960
Even before the COVID started, he
let facts you run everything. He signed

1486
01:59:31.000 --> 01:59:34.239
all the orders. He was the
one behind the alash Hut downs. And

1487
01:59:34.359 --> 01:59:36.800
that's like a lot of this drama. We say, you're right now far

1488
01:59:36.840 --> 01:59:43.920
as I'm concerned, that's just getting
that knocked off the table, which I

1489
01:59:44.000 --> 01:59:46.159
don't see you who would think that
Pance has got a chance of winning.

1490
01:59:46.399 --> 01:59:51.119
Who's going to vote for Chris Christie? The stances he should have, you

1491
01:59:51.199 --> 01:59:55.600
know, stake Faria back off through
the winner. But you know he had

1492
01:59:55.640 --> 01:59:59.640
to go back and playing Florida,
So you know, let's go ahead,

1493
01:59:59.720 --> 02:00:02.760
you know, and Michael Michael Murk
a guy again, get him on in

1494
02:00:02.920 --> 02:00:09.079
there. So then that way that
this other war out boomer that don't know

1495
02:00:09.199 --> 02:00:12.319
word did he PopEd like so even
when he pooped on himself, can beat

1496
02:00:12.399 --> 02:00:15.680
him one more time and then people
like you can be sitting back screaming,

1497
02:00:15.880 --> 02:00:18.760
oh but Trump was better. And
four day chest and I don't like crazy.

1498
02:00:18.880 --> 02:00:25.199
Yeah, all right, but all
I got to say about and give

1499
02:00:25.239 --> 02:00:28.680
it back to him so he can
come up with some no no, no,

1500
02:00:28.720 --> 02:00:31.079
no, no no, don't no, no no, Harley, don't

1501
02:00:31.119 --> 02:00:33.920
don't do that. Don't do that. Let's not do that because we're we're

1502
02:00:34.079 --> 02:00:38.720
almost out of time, and I
want to give everybody a chance to cap

1503
02:00:38.760 --> 02:00:41.840
stuff. I don't want to keep
going back and forth on this. Bottom

1504
02:00:41.880 --> 02:00:46.279
line is that you answered the question. Uh and uh and and I'll leave

1505
02:00:46.319 --> 02:00:49.439
it there. As far as you
don't know who the man is, that

1506
02:00:49.600 --> 02:00:53.760
was part of his question. You
said you don't know, and that's that.

1507
02:00:54.600 --> 02:00:58.439
Um Or if there is a man, that's for sure who's running things,

1508
02:00:58.880 --> 02:01:00.319
Uh, you figure that he's not
going to go to prison based on

1509
02:01:00.439 --> 02:01:03.479
his privileged position, that's it.
It doesn't matter. Any of this other

1510
02:01:03.560 --> 02:01:09.760
stuff doesn't matter because he's one of
these privileged people. That's it. Um

1511
02:01:10.079 --> 02:01:15.199
So that's the way I see your
answer boiling down. And Uh, there's

1512
02:01:15.239 --> 02:01:17.479
not much more to it, man. Uh. So there you go,

1513
02:01:17.600 --> 02:01:20.800
but we will let Jimmy James get
in a final word. I'm gonna put

1514
02:01:20.920 --> 02:01:25.279
everybody on hold for a second though, and be Pete. I think we

1515
02:01:25.319 --> 02:01:28.800
should go around and let everybody have
their final say and be done with this

1516
02:01:29.479 --> 02:01:35.520
because I'm done. Okay, what's
your thoughts? Yeah we can. We

1517
02:01:35.600 --> 02:01:40.880
can send it around for closing thoughts
and uh, wrap it up, okay,

1518
02:01:40.960 --> 02:01:44.039
And I'm cutting it off there.
And hopefully I've been I've tried to

1519
02:01:44.039 --> 02:01:46.840
be as fair as possible to everybody. But let's start with Chris, because

1520
02:01:46.880 --> 02:01:51.199
I because I love a little chaos
to begin with. And uh, and

1521
02:01:51.560 --> 02:01:55.880
uh, who knows what the hell
Chris Graves is going to say? Because

1522
02:01:56.039 --> 02:01:58.399
uh, that's that's the name of
the game when it comes to the new

1523
02:01:58.439 --> 02:02:00.079
prisoners, when it comes to digging
Chris Graves, when it comes to get

1524
02:02:00.119 --> 02:02:04.000
mad with Chris Graves, I dare
you to predict what he's gonna say and

1525
02:02:04.079 --> 02:02:09.319
what he's gonna do and who he's
gonna have on It's impossible. Uh So

1526
02:02:09.680 --> 02:02:15.600
Chris Chaos, my brother, Go
well, I think the guy behind the

1527
02:02:15.680 --> 02:02:19.159
curtain that's running the show is a
gentleman by the name of Vic Tayback.

1528
02:02:20.560 --> 02:02:26.960
That's about it. That's a chaos
and Harlan never changed, buddy. We're

1529
02:02:27.000 --> 02:02:30.239
gonna do some kind of a show
at some point. You're awesome, dude,

1530
02:02:30.119 --> 02:02:34.079
Vic like Alice? Is that from
like the day you go? All

1531
02:02:34.199 --> 02:02:36.399
right? I was just wondering if
I had that. I was thinking I

1532
02:02:36.479 --> 02:02:41.680
might have that name mixed up.
But I will I'm old Chuck. Yeah,

1533
02:02:43.520 --> 02:02:46.760
I will let Mel run this diner
all day long, because I'd rather

1534
02:02:46.840 --> 02:02:50.479
have him in the White House than
either one of these other burnt out boomers

1535
02:02:50.600 --> 02:02:58.800
like Carlan or Fikas planned why not? Although I vote cannabis not Fikes.

1536
02:02:58.880 --> 02:03:02.199
Put cannabis in there, Okay,
a cannabis plant has provided nobody will smoke

1537
02:03:02.239 --> 02:03:05.359
it before November? All right?
Serious? Put that in there. Run

1538
02:03:05.479 --> 02:03:11.760
that. Put poison ivy in there. From Batman. There you have it,

1539
02:03:12.039 --> 02:03:16.199
any Batman villain from the what do
they call that? The Villain gallery

1540
02:03:16.359 --> 02:03:21.600
right there, the Rogue Gallery gallery
and Arkham Asylum there it is Arkham Asylum.

1541
02:03:21.720 --> 02:03:26.399
Let's pick one at random, and
they already have. And Joe Biden

1542
02:03:26.600 --> 02:03:30.159
just doesn't know where he is anymore. I love that he's pooping on himself

1543
02:03:30.199 --> 02:03:34.239
and he doesn't know it. Harlan
gems every single time, mixed in with

1544
02:03:34.600 --> 02:03:39.560
what he's saying. I love it. Okay, So no more arms.

1545
02:03:39.640 --> 02:03:43.680
Jesus although we might get some more
in a minute. B Pete, who

1546
02:03:43.800 --> 02:03:46.000
shall we go with next? For
their closing thoughts? Should we go with

1547
02:03:46.159 --> 02:03:50.319
Vance? I think we should go
with Vance. Yeah, yeah, let's

1548
02:03:50.319 --> 02:03:55.239
go all right. Let me take
Vance off hold because I put everybody on

1549
02:03:55.479 --> 02:04:01.159
hold in order to get through that
segment and Vance. Your closing thoughts for

1550
02:04:01.239 --> 02:04:10.079
this week, well, um,
I'll just I'll put out my one of

1551
02:04:10.159 --> 02:04:16.960
my my big uh. I don't
know how to phrase it right now,

1552
02:04:17.079 --> 02:04:24.439
but but basically, what people need
to uh, you know, everybody's aware

1553
02:04:24.479 --> 02:04:29.000
of that they're on different levels of
whatever. You know, they perceived the

1554
02:04:32.039 --> 02:04:38.159
policies to be in the current dynamic
or whatever. And the way to move

1555
02:04:38.279 --> 02:04:43.680
forward is to to understand that I
was born a human being, okay,

1556
02:04:44.079 --> 02:04:46.680
and it happened to be born in
San Antonio, Texas, and they taught

1557
02:04:46.720 --> 02:04:49.680
me that my name was Darents and
that I was, you know, an

1558
02:04:49.680 --> 02:04:55.960
American and a Texan and a Baptist
and whatever. And had I been born

1559
02:04:56.039 --> 02:04:59.720
in Iraq, I'd be Iraqi.
So you know, who knows what I

1560
02:04:59.720 --> 02:05:03.399
would think then, but I don't
think it be exactly what I'm thinking now,

1561
02:05:04.079 --> 02:05:08.239
So you know, in order to
change reality you have to change your

1562
02:05:08.279 --> 02:05:12.760
perception of reality. And the reality
is is that we are all just human

1563
02:05:12.840 --> 02:05:16.159
beings on the planet and whoever it
is is running the show, which isn't

1564
02:05:16.159 --> 02:05:19.960
an individual, but it is not
the people that we're voting for. I

1565
02:05:20.159 --> 02:05:26.079
mentioned to who and the United Nations, and you know all those nobody votes

1566
02:05:26.119 --> 02:05:29.560
for any of those people, they're
not elected by us, they're not representing

1567
02:05:29.680 --> 02:05:35.039
us. They're representing the structure that
rules this world. And so we can

1568
02:05:35.159 --> 02:05:40.800
have a whole show on that.
But that's my closing segment is you know,

1569
02:05:41.000 --> 02:05:45.000
we need to become human beings again
and we can move forward. There

1570
02:05:45.119 --> 02:05:49.920
you have it, So now be
Pete. I give you the enviable task

1571
02:05:50.079 --> 02:05:55.239
of choosing the last two. We
got Harlan and we got Jimmy James.

1572
02:05:56.640 --> 02:06:01.960
Should go with Jimmy. Okay,
let's see all. I think I clicked

1573
02:06:02.039 --> 02:06:05.640
the right Yes, I still have
two things on the board from me Jimmy

1574
02:06:05.720 --> 02:06:11.560
James. But I think I got
the right one. Oh yeah, you

1575
02:06:11.680 --> 02:06:15.199
get three one? So can hear
me, yes, sir, I can

1576
02:06:15.279 --> 02:06:24.119
hear you your final thoughts for this
week. My final thoughts for the week

1577
02:06:26.039 --> 02:06:30.640
are the China now owns both sides
of the Panama Canal. They're setting up

1578
02:06:30.680 --> 02:06:35.479
a base on Cuba. They have
a larger navy than us. They just

1579
02:06:35.760 --> 02:06:43.119
gave a bunch of sonic missiles to
Iran, which could reach us in twenty

1580
02:06:43.239 --> 02:06:51.279
three minutes. Meanwhile, the Democratic
Party emphasizes open boarders. That matters.

1581
02:06:53.399 --> 02:06:59.960
They want to molest and castrate your
children in grade school. That matters.

1582
02:07:00.399 --> 02:07:10.319
Uh, they support and fantaside literally, Uh, that matters. Uh.

1583
02:07:10.640 --> 02:07:21.239
The economy about Biden's policies have destroyed
our economic situation, mostly by destroying the

1584
02:07:21.439 --> 02:07:29.560
petroleum industry and everything else. All
of his policies are a disaster. He's

1585
02:07:29.680 --> 02:07:35.840
caused all this mystery. Gases doubled
in place, and the claims, I

1586
02:07:35.960 --> 02:07:41.840
don't know. They claim it's five
percent right now. Everything's double and priced

1587
02:07:41.880 --> 02:07:45.239
though, so we know that's a
lot, you know, So what so

1588
02:07:45.399 --> 02:07:49.239
what so? What exactly does matter
to people? You got? Oh,

1589
02:07:49.319 --> 02:07:54.359
it doesn't matter. It's just them, the man, the master of the

1590
02:07:54.600 --> 02:07:58.239
universe. We don't need to pick
a side. We don't need to pick

1591
02:07:58.319 --> 02:08:01.199
the worst of two. Evil to
hell, let's all become Chenese. I

1592
02:08:01.239 --> 02:08:07.880
don't get you anyways, that bus
have a good weekend. There you go.

1593
02:08:09.159 --> 02:08:11.720
So there's Jimmy James view of it. Uh, it doesn't matter,

1594
02:08:11.880 --> 02:08:16.039
Sure it does. I'm getting crushed
by the economy. That matters. And

1595
02:08:16.439 --> 02:08:20.079
in that way, Biden certainly sucks
more than Trump. I'll give you that,

1596
02:08:20.920 --> 02:08:26.279
because it has gotten worse economically.
Everything else it's a puppet show.

1597
02:08:26.359 --> 02:08:28.159
What can I say? Would it
have gotten worse if Trump was in there?

1598
02:08:28.520 --> 02:08:33.119
I think so? But that's just
me. So that leaves us with

1599
02:08:33.720 --> 02:08:39.199
Harlan, right, Uh me,
Pete or am I wrong? You're correct?

1600
02:08:41.840 --> 02:08:48.399
Okay, Harley? Your final thoughts
Trump twenty twenty four, Mike America,

1601
02:08:48.479 --> 02:08:52.279
gag again. Go ahead, but
the Christ fall, I've got it

1602
02:08:52.359 --> 02:08:56.079
on my mind. I have got
me a new laptop and I've got the

1603
02:08:56.359 --> 02:09:01.159
first state to Scapa about this not
done the second third stage? Ye,

1604
02:09:01.239 --> 02:09:05.680
then every get back to it.
But let do a task collar pretty sung

1605
02:09:05.680 --> 02:09:07.680
if you want to, we'll get
together in day something. Absolutely. My

1606
02:09:07.840 --> 02:09:13.960
friend absolutely Advance too. Vance the
Boston bombing too. We got to do

1607
02:09:15.079 --> 02:09:18.279
that too, very soon. All
right, yep, definitely. So Harlan

1608
02:09:18.359 --> 02:09:24.880
and Vance will soon be guests on
the Chris Graves Universe of Media, one

1609
02:09:24.920 --> 02:09:28.920
way or another, either digging or
get mad or geez, what else,

1610
02:09:28.960 --> 02:09:33.279
don't take our word for it,
or the New Prisoners, or as you

1611
02:09:33.399 --> 02:09:35.520
say, hanging with mister Cooper,
hanging with mister Cooper. And he's a

1612
02:09:35.600 --> 02:09:41.000
t gif back of the take conspiring
with mister Cooper. Conspiring with mister Cooper.

1613
02:09:41.159 --> 02:09:48.319
Right, Hey, I don't get
everything right. Yeah, he's wanting

1614
02:09:48.319 --> 02:09:52.880
to come on his show to say, yeah, he wants Chuck to be

1615
02:09:52.960 --> 02:09:56.279
on there too, and the Tiger's
Day. Anytime Tiger wants just tell them

1616
02:09:56.279 --> 02:09:58.319
to let me know and I'll be
there. Well, we'll do that.

1617
02:10:00.079 --> 02:10:05.359
He just said, Oh yeah,
I guess catch this show a lot because

1618
02:10:05.479 --> 02:10:09.399
you know, he use one on
Fridays. The one reason why I catch

1619
02:10:09.560 --> 02:10:15.800
his and Don's more than most anybody
else's live streaming because on Fridays, I'm

1620
02:10:15.840 --> 02:10:18.880
for show were up. And that's
usually like when I'm getting loaded and I'm

1621
02:10:18.920 --> 02:10:22.720
sitting to these places, you know
what the stuff, so I've got plenty

1622
02:10:22.720 --> 02:10:26.159
of time, you know, to
actually listen to it. That's where I

1623
02:10:26.239 --> 02:10:28.680
wind up missing a lot of other
shows because I'm using this leak. They're

1624
02:10:28.720 --> 02:10:31.560
in the leak when the shows are
own. Did you did you get to

1625
02:10:31.720 --> 02:10:37.399
chat together? Harlan did you get
a chance to get listening to Monica Perez

1626
02:10:37.479 --> 02:10:45.720
Wood Tiger because that finally happens that
I fell asleep. But I did listen

1627
02:10:46.239 --> 02:10:54.359
to you and William Ramsey um last
night. There you go chat. So

1628
02:10:54.600 --> 02:10:58.000
there's all those updates, Harland,
any final final word here and then I'm

1629
02:10:58.039 --> 02:11:03.199
gonna give it to be Pete to
close out. But pretty much, you

1630
02:11:03.279 --> 02:11:09.039
know, we've done wordybody else,
you know, with the legend of four

1631
02:11:09.159 --> 02:11:11.239
D tests and Orange Jesus as it
is. I mean, I know people

1632
02:11:11.279 --> 02:11:16.000
don't like to hear it, you
know, over where I'm from, Like

1633
02:11:16.159 --> 02:11:20.239
a long story short, I've turned
a lot of people against me just because

1634
02:11:20.600 --> 02:11:24.600
that just laid the facts out about
it. A lot of people's got mad

1635
02:11:24.760 --> 02:11:28.960
at maybe you know. I mean, you know you folks, it's like

1636
02:11:28.199 --> 02:11:33.479
living up in the Northeast or something
did that might be a Republican or conservative

1637
02:11:33.479 --> 02:11:39.600
where a Trump fan you might thank
you catch hay Well used to live in

1638
02:11:39.680 --> 02:11:45.439
East Tennessee. Said I'm pretty you
know, totally diver story. But I

1639
02:11:45.520 --> 02:11:50.000
appreciate everybody, and thanks for having
me on the shoe again. And we'll

1640
02:11:50.000 --> 02:11:52.359
see you next week if we can. There you go, Harlan and again

1641
02:11:52.479 --> 02:11:56.880
you know Tennessee, I come to
Georgia too. That's always fun, So

1642
02:11:56.119 --> 02:12:01.479
be Pete. I guess that leads
the final final word, final word to

1643
02:12:01.600 --> 02:12:07.920
you, Well, has good s
been a good night with a lot of

1644
02:12:07.960 --> 02:12:11.359
discussion. I'm like to think everybody
for calling in, Um, you guys

1645
02:12:11.479 --> 02:12:15.880
make the show. Um. Election
wise, guys, we got a long

1646
02:12:16.000 --> 02:12:18.479
year ahead of us. I'm going
to see a bunch of spend, a

1647
02:12:18.560 --> 02:12:24.880
bunch of money waste all to promote
some bean head to the highest office in

1648
02:12:24.000 --> 02:12:28.399
this country. And I mean,
all I can do is say, like

1649
02:12:28.479 --> 02:12:31.560
I said earlier, if this is
the best we can do, we deserve

1650
02:12:31.680 --> 02:12:35.960
what's coming down the road, because
it is going to get worse. Our

1651
02:12:35.039 --> 02:12:45.199
government is so politicized now you can't
you can't let any agencies start running amuck.

1652
02:12:45.279 --> 02:12:48.039
They're at the point where they could
and it's time for things to start

1653
02:12:48.479 --> 02:12:52.239
being rained in. And I don't
see it happening. I don't you know.

1654
02:12:52.319 --> 02:12:56.520
Most people are worried about going to
work, paying the bills. What

1655
02:12:56.640 --> 02:12:58.960
are we going to do on the
weekend? You know? Can I get

1656
02:12:58.399 --> 02:13:03.000
Can I get my kid into college? Can I afford the car repair that

1657
02:13:03.079 --> 02:13:09.359
I've got to do. That's what
people are worried about. This this media

1658
02:13:09.439 --> 02:13:16.520
show going on where most of the
mainstream sources you know who they're pulling forward

1659
02:13:16.600 --> 02:13:20.640
right off the bat. You have
to go dig to find the information.

1660
02:13:20.239 --> 02:13:26.119
So I you know, I commend
everybody dig for the information. Don't rely

1661
02:13:26.359 --> 02:13:30.439
on what you're seeing. If you're
seeing it on a mainstream media source,

1662
02:13:31.199 --> 02:13:33.680
ignore it, just write it off. Go out there, do your homework,

1663
02:13:33.720 --> 02:13:37.479
like Glenn Beck says, and look
into these issues, the things that

1664
02:13:37.640 --> 02:13:43.680
matter to you. Start supporting the
people that support your position. You're only

1665
02:13:43.760 --> 02:13:46.600
going to change this if you start
at a local level and work up because

1666
02:13:46.680 --> 02:13:50.600
the system is just too corrupt.
And I hate to be a you know,

1667
02:13:50.840 --> 02:13:56.039
a Debbie downer, but yes,
this system is so corrupt. I

1668
02:13:56.159 --> 02:14:00.880
don't know that it can be cleaned
up, you know, to deal with

1669
02:14:01.000 --> 02:14:03.279
it or try to make a change. Us sitting on the side, it's

1670
02:14:03.319 --> 02:14:07.920
not gonna benefit on in in any
way. And there you have it.

1671
02:14:09.119 --> 02:14:13.399
So and there we have it for
the week here on the Ocelli effect,

1672
02:14:13.520 --> 02:14:26.439
the Ocelli network, and uh,
in conclusion, spot dark and all that,

1673
02:14:26.960 --> 02:14:31.520
I am merely o'celly. All of
you are indeed the effect good night,