1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,160 On the couch. We've got a great a musical guest today. Kenny Troon 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:07,080 is here. Hello. Hey, it's great to be here, guys, 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,240 Thanks for having me. Yes, yes, we've we've been playing uh, 4 00:00:10,519 --> 00:00:13,880 some of your studio tracks we have. If you want to dive in and 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,120 play something for us and then we'll come back and uh and we'll yeah, 6 00:00:17,399 --> 00:00:21,359 great, dying to hear you play something. Yeah, I'm dying to play 7 00:00:21,399 --> 00:00:28,079 some raw afternoon music right now, before afternoon, before I'm still getting ready 8 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,440 in the day. I didn't even have my coffee yet, So this is 9 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,799 going to be a good one. Is your voice deeper and this was a 10 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,719 discussion on the show earlier, Is your voice deeper in the morning? Uh? 11 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:44,560 Yeah. It takes me to like gigs after four my primetimes, right 12 00:00:44,799 --> 00:00:48,039 right right, But you might get some raw goodness right now, because sometimes 13 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:52,679 it's good to get that that early morning voice. Absolutely. Yeah. You 14 00:00:52,719 --> 00:00:55,159 want me to play some right now for you guys? Yeah, go for 15 00:00:55,200 --> 00:01:11,439 it. Yeah, it's called the cattle, all right, get me off 16 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:21,480 the rye. I don't know which way is up? Boy, don't I 17 00:01:21,719 --> 00:01:32,920 say? If I a lie hadn't bleached none bove then twise soul. Listen, 18 00:01:33,439 --> 00:01:38,879 but don't take out the gattle that doubt and over it. Now I'll 19 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:46,840 walk them to the gallows, the gallows, carbo. Let's me, am 20 00:01:47,120 --> 00:02:08,840 me, good knight, cut your steak, breen the knife. See oh 21 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:30,000 oh dot dot ub oh get me. Oh there's thing I can't control my 22 00:02:30,599 --> 00:02:45,240 though. I just say, if it's really me, when I don't feel 23 00:02:45,599 --> 00:02:53,879 thing, really really real, really south, take by the apple, they 24 00:02:53,039 --> 00:02:59,759 say, they say, then you walk me through the God is the God 25 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:08,280 is the god it this means sunthing and bring your body in some frick shine 26 00:03:09,719 --> 00:03:32,680 because I'm high high hi loud No again, high high high loud no no 27 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:52,560 again. Hi hi hi hi hi hi h very nice. I love that. 28 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,080 I love that. If you're just joining us, we have Kenny Troon 29 00:03:55,360 --> 00:04:00,719 live in studio here, Jeff w call if I'm saying that correctly, says, 30 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:08,000 I get it, Bud, Jeffy someone you know obviously, Yeah, 31 00:04:08,199 --> 00:04:12,240 I love him. That's my boy. Jeff run like thieves in the chatroom, 32 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,800 says yeah. Kenny Troon, Oh okay, you like that. Yeah, 33 00:04:15,079 --> 00:04:18,759 yeah, you were telling us if you want to say this again on 34 00:04:18,879 --> 00:04:23,079 here too, this was interesting. How you know how you met Greg. 35 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:27,560 Yeah, from Run Like Thieves. Greg Santini, the running drummer. Yes, 36 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,399 I'm from Long Island, New York. Shout out Long Island, New 37 00:04:30,439 --> 00:04:34,279 York. So you're you're a real New Yorker. I'm a real New Yorker. 38 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:38,519 I just went to TD Garden last night to see the Knicks lose to 39 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:43,040 Boston. Yeah. So I've seen the Knicks come to Boston twice, two 40 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:48,000 losses in a row. But we'll keep going on that. But Greg, 41 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:53,199 when I move up here, I found this app. It's like Tinder for 42 00:04:53,399 --> 00:05:00,439 musicians. It's called Vamper, and I swiped right on. Greg frid on 43 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,040 me and we matched and it was great. We didn't go to dinner, 44 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:09,160 but we we played. He drove out to Troy, New York actually on 45 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:15,319 my birthday of last year, and we played a show, and then after 46 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,160 we played, he met my band members. He hadn't met them before the 47 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,079 show. He met them after. Yeah, which is great. But we 48 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:26,120 had a great time. And Greg's demand Greg. Greg fills in for whenever 49 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,439 I play shows up here because most of my band members are in New York. 50 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:31,680 Yeah, so like when I do stuff up here, Greg's my go 51 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:39,959 to guy. He's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. It's been a consistent topic 52 00:05:40,079 --> 00:05:43,240 on the show about how drummers always play with a lot of different people because 53 00:05:43,319 --> 00:05:45,600 drummers are in such high demand, Like, oh yeah, most of the 54 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,639 drummers I meet, they're in like ten different bands. Oh yeah. And 55 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:51,399 plus there's like so many singer songwriters who need a drummer, right right, 56 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,480 Like and bass players too. Basically you need bass players. Those are hard 57 00:05:57,519 --> 00:06:00,480 to come by to. Oh yeah, sometimes I play base And when I 58 00:06:00,639 --> 00:06:01,720 was, yeah, I don't, I don't play anymore. But when I 59 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,560 was out and playing in bands, I was in like four bands at one 60 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:09,199 point at one time. Yeah, but when you say you don't play anymore, 61 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,399 what does that mean? Like, yeah, I'm just I'm just still 62 00:06:11,439 --> 00:06:14,360 not doing I still could, Yeah, I'm just I'm not active. And 63 00:06:14,519 --> 00:06:16,040 you didn't hit your head and was like, I don't remember how to play 64 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,279 this thing. That would be horrible, that would be no. No. 65 00:06:19,519 --> 00:06:23,240 But although I haven't I haven't picked up a bass in a long time. 66 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:27,519 But but yeah, but drummer. My theory about drummers is when you you 67 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,120 know if you want to be a drummer, when you go to have that 68 00:06:29,199 --> 00:06:30,439 conversation with your parents about Yeah, I want to play an instrument, but 69 00:06:30,519 --> 00:06:32,439 I don't want to play the drums. Yeah, you know, either the 70 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,720 drums or or the tuba is the other one that they're probably going to try 71 00:06:35,759 --> 00:06:39,240 to talk you out of. Yeah, unless they've got a good soundproof room 72 00:06:39,519 --> 00:06:43,959 right right for dungeon or basement to throw you down there, exactly exactly. 73 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,879 It's better to hear than making loud noise than doing other bad stuff, you 74 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,199 know what I mean. So that's true. At least you know what they're 75 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:53,240 doing. You know now what brought you? What brought you to this area? 76 00:06:53,319 --> 00:06:55,279 Because you're you're from Long Island. How long have you been here? 77 00:06:55,680 --> 00:07:02,319 My parents have lived up here since maybe two thousand nine or ten, and 78 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,920 I stayed in New York. That I didn't go with them, but I 79 00:07:05,959 --> 00:07:11,240 would always visit New Hampshire. I loved it up here, and it got 80 00:07:11,279 --> 00:07:13,879 to a point where nothing was really happening for me in New York. It 81 00:07:13,959 --> 00:07:18,000 was very stressful at very expensive. Yeah, jobs weren't good, and I 82 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:23,360 don't know, I come up here. I got a job with Live Nation 83 00:07:23,639 --> 00:07:30,560 immediately, being a stage hand and being around the music industry still and actually 84 00:07:30,639 --> 00:07:34,199 work also at the SNHU Arena. Shout out to the bull Crow Boys. 85 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:41,040 So I'm still in involved with music now and it lets me do my music 86 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,800 as well. On top of that, it's just been great. I met 87 00:07:44,839 --> 00:07:47,040 the love of my life up here. Oh excellent. Yeah, so that's 88 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:51,480 pretty great. And I know everything's just been good since I moved up here 89 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:56,720 and I'm living free and I'm not dead yet. Yes, so something's gone 90 00:07:56,839 --> 00:08:03,680 right. I'm swiping right, swiping right, matchic on Tinder. I guess 91 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:05,439 what other apps we got out there I can use? Well, speaking of 92 00:08:05,519 --> 00:08:07,519 Greg, I think he's on the line. Greg. Is that great? 93 00:08:07,639 --> 00:08:11,399 Did Greg call it right now? Yeah? This is great? Hello, 94 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:15,120 gentlemen, Hell are you hello? We were we were just talking about you, 95 00:08:16,079 --> 00:08:18,720 Hi. Greg. Well, I had to call him in because Kenny's 96 00:08:18,759 --> 00:08:24,439 my boy and he was awesome. So that's such a fantastic job. Just 97 00:08:24,519 --> 00:08:26,000 now. It was really great, Kenny, dude. Thanks Greg. We 98 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:30,959 got a jam soon again, Bob. Absolutely absolutely. But I just want 99 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,919 to give a shout out to to you, Kenny, and also to Long 100 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,159 Island, New York, where were we both hail from. Kenny and I 101 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:41,759 were also born in the same hospital, same hospital. That's okay. I'm 102 00:08:41,759 --> 00:08:43,840 glad you brought that up because I was like, we're from the same are 103 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:48,879 no with the same hospital. Yeah, it gets deeper, it gets even 104 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:54,279 deeper. Wow. Well very cool, very cool. Yeah. So I 105 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,559 just want to say I just want to say hello and shout out. And 106 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:01,639 also I just wanted to give you guys a little heads up for our show. 107 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:05,759 We're actually doing a contest. You know, Dan is the singer and 108 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:11,919 Run Like Fieves. He is sponsored by Breed Love Guitar and We're giving away 109 00:09:11,919 --> 00:09:16,519 a guitar and I'm putting it out all over social media on our YouTube channel 110 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:22,559 and basically what we're doing is asking people to cover acoustically one of our songs 111 00:09:22,639 --> 00:09:28,840 and post it and then whoever we think is the coolest and the best, 112 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,840 we'll get a guitar. Wow. And we're going to announce the winner at 113 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,840 our show January seventh, which I know you guys, Jen and Matt are 114 00:09:35,879 --> 00:09:39,279 going to go to and hopefully Kenny's going to go to too. Well, 115 00:09:39,399 --> 00:09:46,240 I'm gonna win that guitar. Bro, You're you're totally eligible to do it, 116 00:09:52,919 --> 00:09:56,480 but anyone's eligible, even Jenny. I think Jenny could do it too. 117 00:09:56,919 --> 00:10:01,120 I know that's a great that's a great idea though, that's a great 118 00:10:01,159 --> 00:10:03,759 concept. I like that a lot. That's a cool, cool idea there. 119 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,480 Yeah, yeah, that's gonna be cool to get anyway. I just 120 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,960 wanted to say thanks guys, and thanks again for having us on the other 121 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:13,720 week and Kenny rock it out, buddy, thanks Bob, thanks for calling 122 00:10:13,759 --> 00:10:16,879 in. All right, Greg, and we will see you on January seventh, 123 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:20,000 Yes, absolutely, six o'clock. All right, we'll be there, 124 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:24,360 looking forward to it, all right, buddy thinks all right, you got 125 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,600 it? Bye bye, all right. The Great Greg Santini, also known 126 00:10:26,639 --> 00:10:31,279 as the running Drummer, Yes from the man likes to run from run like 127 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,000 thieves. Yeah yeah, I mean if you're a drummer, you gotta kind 128 00:10:33,039 --> 00:10:37,159 of have that endurance anyway. Yeah. True, you're flailing and the whole 129 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:41,679 hour set or whatever long and play. Oh yeah absolutely. Yah. It's 130 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:45,559 the most physical instrument because you're using all your limbs. And I'm always impressed 131 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:46,799 when I see singing drummers, which you don't see a lot, at least 132 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,600 not on lead vot. I see a lot of that, But I love 133 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:56,399 a good singing drummer. I think a good example of a singing drummer turned 134 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:58,799 lead singer and turn their back on drums is the guy from Three Doors Down. 135 00:11:00,799 --> 00:11:03,519 Did you know that he drummed on the first record? Yeah? I 136 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,440 didn't. I just assumed he still was. I forget his name. I 137 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:09,559 think it's Brad Arnold. Okay, I think so. But he was the 138 00:11:09,639 --> 00:11:13,559 drummer. But then when they blew up, he was like, I don't 139 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,200 play drums anymore. I'm this singer. Oh I didn't know that. I 140 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,559 always assumed he was still playing drums. Yeah, no, he wants to 141 00:11:18,639 --> 00:11:24,360 be out front. Yeah. I actually did him stagehand for their gig at 142 00:11:24,399 --> 00:11:26,159 Meadowbrook and he was, yeah, he's he's just the front guy. Now. 143 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,919 He's been the front guy for a while. He abandoned that a while 144 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:33,480 ago. Oh okay, but yeah with the little Madonna mike. Yeah, 145 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:37,159 I don't know why I called the Madonna mike, but you know, but 146 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:41,679 yeah, I want to see some drummers that singing, So Greg, start 147 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,679 your start singingmore. All right, if you're still listening, Even in bands 148 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:48,159 that do have singing drummers, a lot of the time, it's only like 149 00:11:48,399 --> 00:11:52,440 part like some songs they might sing on like they'll split the lead singer. 150 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,440 Yeah, yea, yeah, yeah yeah, but yeah, I'm trying to 151 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,360 think of a band where see I thought Three Doors Down, I didn't realize 152 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,960 he had a band in the drums. I'm trying to think of a band 153 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:03,919 where they have a singing drummer who sings everything everything. Do you know Anderson? 154 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:09,840 He's a great artist who him and the Free Nationals. He drums, 155 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:13,120 rap, sings, He's incredible. Yeah, he's like if you see his 156 00:12:13,279 --> 00:12:18,360 tiny desk concert, he's just like in the middle, like cutting it up, 157 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:22,639 playing the drums flawlessly and just effortlessly. Oh he's really good. And 158 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:28,360 if you want to go into like heavier drummers that do the Madonna Mike seven 159 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:35,159 Dust, do you remember that band Morgan would do the like and had the 160 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:39,000 Madonna mic on? Yeah, I like that. I can't think of anyone 161 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:43,240 else off the top of my head. But yeah, they're out there, 162 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,759 and if you're out there, hit up Matt, hit up me, let's 163 00:12:46,799 --> 00:12:52,519 talk about it. Call us in this band's like, oh yeah, but 164 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:56,080 was he another one that just I'm done? So I need to be sort 165 00:12:56,159 --> 00:13:00,679 of sort of because if you see the Eagles live. He'll play drums on 166 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,639 some things, but then he'll come up front for others or and somebody else 167 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:09,720 jumps the band. But he but but he's another one who didn't sing on 168 00:13:09,759 --> 00:13:13,080 everything, right Yeah. Yeah, like I can't. I can't think of 169 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,879 an example where the drummer is the leads full time. Yeah. Yeah, 170 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:22,440 like in Genesis, Phil Collins, he would, you know, he would 171 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,200 come up front, you know, he he'd sing, he'd play drums on 172 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,600 a few things, but he'd come up front, you know, and then 173 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:33,200 he was Genesis one. Uh, Gabes left. Yeah, and I love 174 00:13:33,279 --> 00:13:37,200 Peter Gabriel. He's like one of my favorites. Yeah. You, by 175 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,759 the way, so I didn't know this about you until somebody mentioned it in 176 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:46,720 the chat room that you play multiple instruments, right yeah, I play drums, 177 00:13:46,879 --> 00:13:54,080 bass, guitar, and piano, wow, sing rap? I may 178 00:13:54,200 --> 00:14:00,159 be. I'm a producer. Yeah, I produce and engineer and mix all 179 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,799 my records. Oh yeah, oh wow. I went to audio school in 180 00:14:03,879 --> 00:14:09,159 two thousand and four in New York City. Learned everything I need to learn, 181 00:14:09,399 --> 00:14:13,279 and uh, just so no one can tell me what to like what 182 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:18,559 you do. Like I think I grew up in a in an era where 183 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,799 I was just like a singer in a band for a while, people trying 184 00:14:20,879 --> 00:14:24,879 to tell me what to do, how to dress, signing a label with 185 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:31,600 Capitol Records twenty one, and just dealing with all the behind the scenes stuff 186 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,440 like people telling you, oh, you got to do this, you got 187 00:14:33,559 --> 00:14:37,120 to write songs like this, you got to do It's like I learned everything 188 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:41,559 myself just so I could make my own world, make my own universe, 189 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,799 because I don't want to play in your world, dude, Like you know 190 00:14:43,799 --> 00:14:48,159 what I mean. And I honed my craft for about over twenty years now, 191 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:52,639 so like I love it, and we're fortunate to live in a time 192 00:14:52,679 --> 00:14:56,399 where you can really do that, you know, Like now it's even better 193 00:14:56,919 --> 00:15:00,679 for a situation like that, I own all my stuff. No one owns 194 00:15:00,919 --> 00:15:05,080 anything that's excellent. Yeah, I don't like because that's the thing with these 195 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:09,279 like these deals, when you sign these deals, they're they're covering your recording 196 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,840 costs, so all this stuffs, and I'm like taking a huge chunk of 197 00:15:11,879 --> 00:15:16,480 that away where it's just like you want to just pay for marketing or something. 198 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:20,200 I don't know, right, but even then, like Facebook ads these 199 00:15:20,279 --> 00:15:26,440 days, Instagram ads, I have like thirteen hundred followers, but my story 200 00:15:26,639 --> 00:15:30,000 only gets like seventy people seeing it. Yeah, you know what I mean. 201 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,679 They want you to pay money right right. It's this whole thing where 202 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:35,840 it's like the Wow Wild West where you got to figure out like new ways 203 00:15:35,919 --> 00:15:39,759 to do things. I kind of like it. Yeah, yeah, it's 204 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:45,879 fresh and absolutely it's really cool. Evan Hilsinger. Yeah, chat room says 205 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:52,720 Kenny Troon is the greatest. Evan's my longest running band member, best friend 206 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:56,480 from high school. We were in a man together, Oh wow, yeah, 207 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:00,000 where he played guitar, I was singing, and then it now he's 208 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:04,039 my bass player and I play guitar and say, it's kind of dope. 209 00:16:04,159 --> 00:16:07,039 Now is he back in New York or that he's in New York he's listening 210 00:16:07,039 --> 00:16:10,600 to New York right now, or he could it's the weekend. He could 211 00:16:10,639 --> 00:16:15,360 be at his house in the Poconos. So but but the so the how 212 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,279 often do you play with the band? Because logistically it must be a little 213 00:16:18,279 --> 00:16:21,679 bit of a challenge. Uh, it is. But we're at a point 214 00:16:21,679 --> 00:16:23,759 where we like know each other very well, like if we get like a 215 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:29,200 little like like if I travel to them and we and we're able to get 216 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,159 a little run through for an hour or two before a show. That's good. 217 00:16:32,279 --> 00:16:37,360 Sometimes we don't, but sometimes those shows are the best shows because everyone's 218 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:42,080 just everyone practices by listening what songs are we going to do? Here are 219 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,200 the songs? And I'll be like, all right, we'll just show up 220 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,840 and we'll leave it there. Yeah, because sometimes when you practice too much, 221 00:16:48,919 --> 00:16:52,799 you're like, you like peak already before you even get there. You're 222 00:16:52,799 --> 00:16:56,440 like, oh, you do it great at the practice like four times, 223 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,639 and then you go to the show and it's not It's almost like saving that 224 00:16:59,759 --> 00:17:03,240 inner g to just like, no, that totally, that totally makes sense, 225 00:17:03,359 --> 00:17:07,920 firmly believe in that. I like it loose, yeah, but enough 226 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,559 where there's a format throughout the show. Yeah, makes it makes it more 227 00:17:11,599 --> 00:17:17,400 exciting. I totally get that. Yeah. Yeah, do you want to 228 00:17:17,759 --> 00:17:18,880 do you want to play another song? I'm dying to hear another song. 229 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:25,960 Okay, I could play a new one that I just wrote with my uh 230 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:30,559 lovely girlfriend's kids. Now new new as in no one, no one knows 231 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:36,079 this song really, oh, very nice. We like the premiere on the 232 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,839 radio, which they'll probably love Oh, we love it too. We love 233 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:44,359 the world radio premiere. Beatrix and Walter Saint Pierre helped me write this song. 234 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:49,799 They're in uh second and fourth grade? Oh no kidding, yes, 235 00:17:51,960 --> 00:18:07,279 So I'll try this one for them, all right, Very nice little rock 236 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:17,680 turned into human. He ate some grats and Guriel tall, but then he 237 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:22,480 went and had himself some cheese its. He thought, now, well that 238 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:32,960 is delicious. And they drove off and the sunset on an elephant. And 239 00:18:33,039 --> 00:18:40,359 they drove off to the sunset on an elephant. Had a fante, had 240 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:45,839 a fante, had a fiante, had a fante. They drove into the 241 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:55,680 sunset A man and the panda. They showed up to the party with some 242 00:18:55,880 --> 00:19:03,640 nachos and doritos and freedom, and they went to the nick game, but 243 00:19:03,759 --> 00:19:08,039 they lost to the Celtics. But it was okay because we had a great 244 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:17,480 time. And we drove off to the sunset on an elephant. And we 245 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:23,359 drove off into the sunset on an elephant. They had a fante, had 246 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:30,359 a fante, had a funte and they drove off into the sunset on an 247 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:38,000 elephant. Very nice. What is it called elephant? I believe I didn't 248 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:42,519 write those lyrics. They were written by them. The lyrics are relatable to 249 00:19:42,599 --> 00:19:48,720 me because I also enjoyed cheese its yes, and think about being a rock. 250 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,480 You're a rock and then you just exploded into a human. You eat 251 00:19:52,559 --> 00:19:56,359 grass, you grow tall, but then you find cheesus and you're like, 252 00:19:56,599 --> 00:20:02,000 wow, this is way different than grass. H Yes, it sounds ever 253 00:20:02,279 --> 00:20:06,039 to relate to it. I feel it could be my next hit. I 254 00:20:06,079 --> 00:20:11,519 would love to send them to trade schools with the money from that, right, 255 00:20:11,839 --> 00:20:15,039 you know, not college. We don't want to send them to college 256 00:20:15,039 --> 00:20:18,839 and have them in debt for like fifty grand. We just want maybe a 257 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,920 ten thousand dollars debt and a trade where they can make money. You know. 258 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:26,880 There you go. I digress. If you're just joining us, Kenny 259 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:33,880 Troon is here with us, alive in studio. Benjamin Blanger in the chatroom 260 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:38,960 says, get it, Oh, Benny, that's awesome, and Jay Fat 261 00:20:40,079 --> 00:20:42,640 is asking in the chatroom have you ever considered the possibility of extending the length 262 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:51,119 of your beard? To be honest, my beard has been huge before. 263 00:20:51,319 --> 00:20:53,279 Yeah, Covets beard. Yeah yeah, yeah, he's a beard guy. 264 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:59,319 It's been really big. Yeah. I actually cut my hair hair I'll show 265 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:03,559 you my hair short right now. But yeah, my hair was super long. 266 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,839 Oh really, my beard was really Yeah. I let it go at 267 00:21:06,839 --> 00:21:08,759 the pandemic. It was like, I'm not going to cut it till this 268 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:15,440 is over. And then it didn't end right, But uh, two weeks. 269 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,480 I try to look I try to look a little more presentable these days. 270 00:21:19,559 --> 00:21:22,319 But yeah, tell him, I feel his I feel him on the 271 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,960 beard. I loved my beard. He has a large beard. Yeah, 272 00:21:26,039 --> 00:21:27,920 yeah, I could hide snacks in there for later. It was real. 273 00:21:30,319 --> 00:21:34,200 It was a flavor saver. By the way. By the way, I'm 274 00:21:34,279 --> 00:21:40,240 curious working at the Snow. Uh do you know Michael Martino also known as 275 00:21:40,279 --> 00:21:45,200 Texas Mike. Maybe if he works, what does he do at the snow? 276 00:21:45,279 --> 00:21:48,839 I forget what he does there exactly. I mean he's there, he's 277 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,559 there for events. You remember what something to do with concessions. Maybe, 278 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:56,839 yeah, you may not have. You may not have encountered him. Probably 279 00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:02,680 maybe I've seen him like around. Yeah, definitely. Melanie said, uh 280 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:04,880 yeah, right, all guys, lie and say, you know, regarding 281 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:11,039 the beard, say it was huge. I swear it was. You'll find 282 00:22:11,079 --> 00:22:17,359 some Google image somewhere of it. We should play another studio track. We've 283 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,880 already played a couple of them earlier in the show, but I'm curious to 284 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:26,599 Uh, let's see, is there we've got that there's a song that you 285 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,759 sent me that's from a live show. Yeah, and then there's another studio 286 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,359 track, I'll let You, I'll let you. The other studio track is 287 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:40,319 the single and video I've been promoting called I Don't Think We're Ever Alone. 288 00:22:40,599 --> 00:22:41,559 Oh, we should play that one then, yeah, yeah, let's do 289 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,319 that. And uh yeah, this is a great song, and can you 290 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:51,079 tell us about it? Is there a story behind it? Uh? Yeah. 291 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:56,359 During the pandemic, I was living in an apartment that turns into a 292 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:03,400 squat because my landlord we got served papers right before the pandemic happened where he 293 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,519 hadn't been paying taxes on the house for years. Oh, and they were 294 00:23:07,559 --> 00:23:11,279 gonna take it, and they were like, you guys shouldn't pay him anymore 295 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,119 because like you know what I mean. So we were like okay, But 296 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:21,440 then the pandemic happened and we were just you know, the power went out, 297 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:26,720 and then I had this steal power from the public library next door and 298 00:23:26,799 --> 00:23:30,039 the house next door, and then it was a whole thing. Wow. 299 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,279 But I ended up getting out of there and finding a new place. But 300 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:38,799 the place I moved into a week or two before, someone had overdosed in 301 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,599 the house and they were trying to get someone else to move in. Yeah, 302 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:47,160 and they didn't tell me that. So I was dealing with all weird 303 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,559 spirits in the house that I moved in. So the song has a lot 304 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,240 to do with the weirdness that was occurring at the new place that I moved 305 00:23:53,279 --> 00:23:59,279 into, where someone had just recently died in the house. What kind of 306 00:23:59,319 --> 00:24:04,640 weirdness was currently okay? So randomly I was on the deck and I was 307 00:24:06,039 --> 00:24:08,720 I think I was smoking a cigarette or something, and all of a sudden, 308 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,720 there's a huge fire on the on the deck, Like a fire just 309 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,519 happened. Oh my god, I out of nowhere. I had to put 310 00:24:15,559 --> 00:24:19,440 it out. And then a roommate of mine came out the bathroom with like 311 00:24:19,559 --> 00:24:22,640 blood on him and he wasn't bleeding, it wasn't his blood. Oh my 312 00:24:22,799 --> 00:24:27,640 god. So a lot of things were happening, yeah, and uh jeez, 313 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,880 and yeah, so I feel like I don't think we're ever alone, 314 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:37,200 was kind of I'm like, yeah, maybe, like even if we pass 315 00:24:37,279 --> 00:24:40,880 on, like we're still here and like just even if you feel like there's 316 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:48,400 no one physically there with you, something's up interesting. All right, Well, 317 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,160 let's give this a listen. Oh, by the way, run like 318 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,000 Thieves in the chat Room says, this song is one of my favorite Kenny 319 00:24:55,039 --> 00:24:59,640 Truan's songs. Nice and Melanie says, why were they weird spirits? That 320 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,799 sounds super judgmental. Well, you know when there's blood and fire. Yeah, 321 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,680 if they were cooking me like breakfast, and like you know, doing 322 00:25:08,759 --> 00:25:12,240 other things for me, like doing my laundry, I'd be like, this 323 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,920 ghost is cool, right, A helpful ghost is nice. You know. 324 00:25:17,039 --> 00:25:19,880 That's the kind of ghost when something strange was the foot at the circle cave, 325 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:22,000 so to speak, You know what I mean. It'd be nice if 326 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:26,759 you could choose your ghost. Yeah you can't, You definitely can't. Well, 327 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,240 let's give this a listen. So this is Kenny Troon and this is 328 00:25:30,359 --> 00:26:02,240 called I don't think we're ever alone here on Matt Connorton unleashed, just crept 329 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:07,279 in through the door like a black cat in the shadow. Do you hear 330 00:26:07,519 --> 00:26:14,839 that? You smell that? I think something's burning? The blood was spelled 331 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:22,200 last we lost spelling slurk with Avery's walls. Something weird going doing. I 332 00:26:22,319 --> 00:26:34,880 don't think we're ever alone, and I don't think where ever. I don't 333 00:26:36,039 --> 00:26:48,039 think where ever. I don't think we're never alone. I don't think that 334 00:26:48,359 --> 00:27:18,039 we I ever know just fell off. The ball was dead like like that 335 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:23,160 now's in the corner. Did you see that leg got in the track? 336 00:27:23,759 --> 00:27:32,039 No, I don't want to remember the blood spells that does spirits lip with 337 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:38,599 Fairy's walls. Something with going on. I don't think we're ever lone. 338 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:57,200 I'm sick where ever love now sick whereever. I don't think man ever alone. 339 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:04,480 I don't think that we I have a seen I don't think that we 340 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:34,759 I have a think that we I. I don't think that we I think 341 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:41,680 that we are ever alone. Oh that is cool, and that does have 342 00:28:41,799 --> 00:28:45,039 a spooky vibe. That is, I don't think we're ever alone. The 343 00:28:45,119 --> 00:28:49,039 Great Kenny Troon is here with us live in studio. The Great Kenny's true. 344 00:28:49,119 --> 00:28:52,759 I like the sound of that. Thank you man. Absolutely. By 345 00:28:52,799 --> 00:28:56,720 the way, UH run like thieves in the chat room, says Greg from 346 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,799 r LD says that as a retired uh F d N why fire Marshal Kenny's 347 00:29:00,839 --> 00:29:07,400 cigarette started that fire case? I swear though, because I was on the 348 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,319 other side of the deck and I was like thinking, did I like arkle 349 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,880 Dan? I do? I had, but like, literally, uh, 350 00:29:15,079 --> 00:29:21,599 what I I think happened? I want to clarify to the FDN Y alumni 351 00:29:21,759 --> 00:29:26,160 out there, Yes, that it was a piece of broken gla mirror on 352 00:29:26,279 --> 00:29:32,920 the ground. Son was hitting the mirror reflect. I swear this is what 353 00:29:33,079 --> 00:29:37,400 I came up with. If it wasn't a weird ghost or something. But 354 00:29:37,559 --> 00:29:42,799 I was like, and there were like dried leaves hit like hitting the I 355 00:29:42,839 --> 00:29:47,079 don't know, I'm trying. Anything's possible. Greg, Can you run that 356 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:52,880 through your FDN Y machine tell me if that's accurate or that's the thing that 357 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:57,559 could happen. And this is very nice. Nicole Saint Pierre in the chat 358 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:02,359 room says, the kids are feeling very famous after hearing you play there. 359 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,119 Yes, that's amazing. Hi, Bob's that's very nice, very nice. 360 00:30:07,279 --> 00:30:14,680 That's great. They they they they think I'm famous. It's weird. Well 361 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,519 you are now them. Yeah, you get the Matt Connorton unleashed bump. 362 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,119 Yeah. When we went to when we went to the Celtics game, Little 363 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,319 Walt was like, oh, but can we get sit on the floor. 364 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:33,480 Aren't you famous? I'm like, oh, maybe one day their degrees shout 365 00:30:33,519 --> 00:30:37,039 out to them. I'm happy they're listening. And who played a slide on 366 00:30:37,119 --> 00:30:42,279 that song you mentioned My dude, Josh Honigman playing mean brass slide on that 367 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,960 last song. Is he in your band or he is? Yeah, he's 368 00:30:45,119 --> 00:30:49,960 my man. We have like a usual suspects list in my band. Yeah, 369 00:30:51,279 --> 00:30:55,039 there's some altering parts, like Greg will join the band for like New 370 00:30:55,079 --> 00:30:56,880 Hampshire dates when I'm not in New York, you know, stuff like that. 371 00:30:57,119 --> 00:31:02,799 We have like some times Maggie will come in and play the sacks whenever 372 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,799 we get Maggie and Maggie had a kid, so Maggie is off for there 373 00:31:06,839 --> 00:31:10,839 a little bit. Yeah, like it changes. So we have Josh Hanigman 374 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:15,799 right now on guitar and keys, Chris Pachanka on guitar, Evan Hilsinger on 375 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:22,400 bass, and me on guitar and singing, and then drummers or you know, 376 00:31:22,599 --> 00:31:27,319 drummers are hard to come by. Exactly exactly what was your because you 377 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:33,680 play multiple instruments, what was your first instrument. My first instrument was bass 378 00:31:33,119 --> 00:31:37,480 because I wanted to join Evan's band. Oh yeah, I didn't know how 379 00:31:37,519 --> 00:31:41,720 to play. I just loved music and I wanted to be in the band. 380 00:31:41,799 --> 00:31:44,200 And it was so cool that they had a band. Yeah, in 381 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,359 ninth grade, So okay, I wanted to do it. That's what got 382 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,880 you started. Yeah, well, actually I think I started maybe a little 383 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:56,640 before that, where I borrowed my friend's bass to play in like a hardcore 384 00:31:56,759 --> 00:32:00,759 band. Oh really yeah, who we were called Savagery. I can't forget 385 00:32:00,839 --> 00:32:06,279 this. Shout out to Nick Voormont, Chris Suarez and Vinnie Roseboom. But 386 00:32:07,599 --> 00:32:09,880 we we did that, and then I seriously did a band with Evan where 387 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:14,440 I was playing bass. Yeah. Then I moved into the singer spot because 388 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,319 we didn't have a singer, or we did have a singer, but he 389 00:32:16,359 --> 00:32:21,240 didn't want to sing or he was taking too long on doing the singing when 390 00:32:21,319 --> 00:32:22,559 it't sing in front of us, so we're like, oh, well that's 391 00:32:22,599 --> 00:32:25,880 a problem. Yeah, and then we we we did. Me and Evan 392 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:31,319 did a a little demo of a song idea where we had you know, 393 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:36,640 those old laptop mics from that were just on the computer. Oh yes, 394 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,680 So he was in the room while I was down the hall singing loud and 395 00:32:40,759 --> 00:32:45,880 it was like the same volume as it was just ridiculous. But we did 396 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,519 a demo like that where I sang and that was like kind of when I 397 00:32:47,599 --> 00:32:51,319 was like, I think I'm going to be the singer. Interesting. So 398 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,079 that's that's how that worked out. Did you take any vocal lessons or are 399 00:32:54,119 --> 00:32:59,960 you self taught? I did when I had a record deal. The labor 400 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:04,559 got me a guy Adrian Holtz, which I love that man. I don't 401 00:33:04,559 --> 00:33:06,920 know where he is this day, but it was in the Lower East Side 402 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,440 Manhattan where I would go see him. Uh. The label Legg was like, 403 00:33:10,519 --> 00:33:14,359 we need you to have a better voice, and you need to know 404 00:33:15,519 --> 00:33:17,759 you know, they're putting money into you. They want you to have that. 405 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:28,559 But basically the like I don't know his his uh, his studying with 406 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,559 him was pretty good. It was like I haven't done it since, but 407 00:33:31,759 --> 00:33:36,880 it was my the training. I needed things I already knew and felt but 408 00:33:37,039 --> 00:33:40,160 didn't really know how to like, I don't know, put him in a 409 00:33:40,319 --> 00:33:45,680 box and understand them, yeah, so to speak. But I did have 410 00:33:45,799 --> 00:33:49,440 some vocal training okay, okay, like twenty one. Yeah. Yeah, 411 00:33:50,319 --> 00:33:52,960 We've got Kenny Truan here. If you have any questions or anything at all 412 00:33:52,359 --> 00:33:57,000 for Kenny six O three two five six seven, The studio line is open 413 00:33:57,039 --> 00:34:00,119 six three two five six seven. Can you tell talk more about your your 414 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,039 experience with being signed to a label, because well, for one thing, 415 00:34:04,079 --> 00:34:07,920 I'm a music industry nerd and we talk about we talk about music industry stuff 416 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:12,079 a lot on you on the show, and you know, and that's kind 417 00:34:12,079 --> 00:34:14,760 of a lot of our listener bas is made up of people who either have 418 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,559 experience in that or are active in the music industry in some way. And 419 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,880 I'm curious here. I mean, it sounds like it it sounds like it 420 00:34:21,039 --> 00:34:23,159 ended with you feeling like you wanted to be able to do everything yourself and 421 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:27,719 be really independent. But I'm curious, you know, pretty pretty traumatic stuff. 422 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,599 I guess for me, it's like my PTSD stuff. No, Ki, 423 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:36,360 I was like twenty yeah, because it's like the whole process of getting 424 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,960 a deal was it was so weird. It was like it was almost like 425 00:34:40,159 --> 00:34:45,000 you find you found a Craigslist ad for a producer looking for a hot new 426 00:34:45,079 --> 00:34:50,760 band, and this is like oh, five, two and five. So 427 00:34:51,599 --> 00:34:58,880 we get a producer and a manager combo from Craigslist. Producer manager combo, 428 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:06,199 and and they're like kind of like grooming us in a way of like making 429 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,039 us look a certain way and recording us. Wait, just so I'm clear. 430 00:35:09,119 --> 00:35:14,840 So this combo they were advertising in Craigslist. I don't the drummer found 431 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,400 it. I didn't find this at the time, but like this is how 432 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:22,039 it happened, like they so we got that. We worked with them for 433 00:35:22,199 --> 00:35:29,239 like a pretty long time. Like we we got an investor, so they 434 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,480 I guess the manager and producer would record a demo for us, get an 435 00:35:31,519 --> 00:35:36,480 investor to pay for it, and then the manager used his contacts to shop 436 00:35:36,559 --> 00:35:40,199 it and it and it worked. We had Hollywood Records come out to see 437 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:46,920 us, took us to dinner after we played the Continental in New York City. 438 00:35:47,679 --> 00:35:52,320 That was great. My mom got a whole school bus to bring everyone 439 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,519 to the city from Long Island, so we packed the place out. Cool. 440 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,239 Yeah, we knew what we you know, we're dealing with. We're 441 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,719 having someone come see us and all that. Yeah, you know, eventually, 442 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:06,440 you know, some some of the records, the labels were what were 443 00:36:06,519 --> 00:36:09,639 okay, and I got I hited off with the dude from Hollywood Records, 444 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:15,960 Jason Jordan a lot, and uh we didn't end up going with him. 445 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:20,079 I think Breaking Benjamin was with him at the time, Hollywood Records, and 446 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,719 uh we ended up getting flown out to California to meet with Jamie Feldman and 447 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:31,079 Andy Slater for Capitol Records. So we we had a audition for the Whull 448 00:36:31,159 --> 00:36:36,559 label. So it was a cool moment for me and the and the guys 449 00:36:36,639 --> 00:36:39,880 in the band at that time because we we show and proved like the whole 450 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:44,599 labels like let's make a record. We were just like, wow, is 451 00:36:44,679 --> 00:36:47,360 this crazy? Like I was the front man then. So when we did 452 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:52,360 the performance, iffed off the stage, got in their faces, was doing 453 00:36:52,519 --> 00:36:53,920 like you know what I mean. Today, I felt like it was a 454 00:36:54,079 --> 00:36:57,360 moment in time I'll never forget, you know what I mean. It was 455 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,760 really great. Went to the Rainbow Room after LA where let's all go over 456 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:08,039 twenty one. But and then then comes in the other stuff where everyone now 457 00:37:08,119 --> 00:37:12,719 in the band thinks they know how to write the hit. I'm just the 458 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,280 singer, even though I played guitar and wrote a song like I only wrote 459 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:21,559 like one or two songs where they let me. Okay, the band because 460 00:37:21,559 --> 00:37:24,159 the band all things, they knew how to do everything. Yeah, they 461 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:29,840 they swamped me an auto tune. I hate auto tune. There's just like 462 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,800 things that were just really hard to deal with. Yeah, and then after 463 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:40,239 a while it just was really I couldn't express myself the way I wanted. 464 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:45,400 I was odd man out on little tours we did where like I wasn't even 465 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,719 being friends with them. Really we weren't getting along. Oh wow. It 466 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,239 was just a lot of things. And I actually and for that to happen 467 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,159 so early and all this, you know, yeah, I habashed it. 468 00:37:55,360 --> 00:38:00,280 I left. Wow, I walked away from it because it wasn't right. 469 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:04,519 It didn't feel right, and I wasn't there was like telling me what to 470 00:38:04,639 --> 00:38:08,880 where, like the labels like tell me where these like leather pants and like 471 00:38:09,199 --> 00:38:13,320 just like all this stuff where I'm just like they were riding the wave of 472 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:17,719 like the emo wave and five six sure yeah seven, And I'm not necessarily 473 00:38:19,039 --> 00:38:22,599 I'm from there where a lot of that music came to, you know, 474 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:28,239 get some notoriety, right, But like I always felt it was a little 475 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:34,360 different, and I don't know, it gives me a lot of gave me 476 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,880 a lot of grief for a lot of years because you want that as an 477 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,920 artist, you want to be on a label you wanted. But then it's 478 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,920 not cracked up to all, you know what I mean? And I you 479 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:49,199 know, we're okay on terms now, Like with that band, we were 480 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,960 all young. We didn't know what the hell was going on. We were 481 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:58,880 all needed to grow and learn, and it was just, uh, I 482 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,159 don't know, because I'm always trying to make it back to that mountain, 483 00:39:02,199 --> 00:39:07,679 but that mountain isn't where I want to go but to some relevance. I 484 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:12,599 want to get my music out to the masses. But it's weird in these 485 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,639 times. You feel like when you post stuff, you're a just in the 486 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:22,880 clutter of everyone else's stuff where it'll get overlooked. Or you have to pay 487 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:29,079 to play. You gotta If you don't have the money, it won't talk 488 00:39:29,119 --> 00:39:31,360 for you, you know what I mean. So it's just interesting to me. 489 00:39:31,519 --> 00:39:37,920 But that that whole dealing with the major label was pretty interesting time. 490 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,599 When you walked away, I mean, did did they try to get you 491 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,559 to stay? Did the label put any pressure on you to stay or how 492 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:50,079 did how did know? Because we were signed to the producer and manager who 493 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,679 signed to the You know what I'm saying, You're like not even You're like 494 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:59,239 the puppet in that aspect. Then like you don't control anything. Yeah, 495 00:39:59,599 --> 00:40:04,559 you know what I mean means so it becomes like I don't even know at 496 00:40:04,639 --> 00:40:08,719 this point, but wow, yeah did the band try to continue without you? 497 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:13,159 Dude? They did, okay? And I felt like they used all 498 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,239 the same contexts that they had and I don't care because I didn't want to 499 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:20,920 be involved anymore. They went on, they did a band for a while 500 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:25,079 and now they they're not a band like most bands. They're a band till 501 00:40:25,079 --> 00:40:29,719 you're not a band, right, But I've never stopped. I will say 502 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:34,000 this. I've been continuing my journey. It's my journey, so it's different 503 00:40:34,039 --> 00:40:38,079 from everyone else's different from theirs, and I kind of like where I've gone. 504 00:40:38,199 --> 00:40:42,760 I've gone to weird places. I do. We haven't even touched upon 505 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,840 this. But I have different aliases and characters in different genres and music that 506 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:50,119 I do. Okay, I have an R and B character named Kenneth Wood. 507 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,039 Oh yes, I found Kenneth Wood online. See that's me. Okay, 508 00:40:53,159 --> 00:40:55,400 you didn't know because I was wearing glasses. I was a little more 509 00:40:55,559 --> 00:41:00,599 suave looking. Yeah. Yeah. But I also have a rap alias Snotty 510 00:41:00,679 --> 00:41:07,440 Nose, and I'm in a metal post metal band called as Dark as You. 511 00:41:07,119 --> 00:41:09,679 Oh that's a cool wow, cool man. Yeah. Like I built 512 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:14,920 like my own world of genres and music. Like it's my own label of 513 00:41:15,039 --> 00:41:20,400 my own call that weird or narcissistic or anything, but I'm it's pretty. 514 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,280 It's my world that I created. I really enjoy it. And that's when 515 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:29,679 I put my life's passion and yeah, yeah do they Is there sort of 516 00:41:29,679 --> 00:41:32,639 a hierarchy in your mind in terms of in terms of priorities. I keep 517 00:41:32,679 --> 00:41:36,920 it loose. Yeah, I know when it's time to do it's weird. 518 00:41:37,159 --> 00:41:39,599 I know when it's time to like go into one of the other characters yea 519 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:44,039 and do or like you know, because I also like to switch it up 520 00:41:44,079 --> 00:41:49,719 in music because it keeps it fun that way. So I love it. 521 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,280 I love doing it. Yeah, and I have total control of my own 522 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:58,360 stuff. So really good, very cool. Yeah, if you're just joining 523 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,840 us, Kenny Truoness here, Melanie in the chatroom does have a question. 524 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:05,639 She says, are you still in the haunted apartment? But obviously no, 525 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,519 that was in New York, back in New York. That was in Patchhog, 526 00:42:07,639 --> 00:42:10,360 New York. I don't know if you guys know where Patchhog is, 527 00:42:10,559 --> 00:42:16,079 patch Hoog, but yeah, a fun fact, Billy Idol lived in Patchhog 528 00:42:16,159 --> 00:42:21,239 when he came from uh I think England. Oh really yeah, and he 529 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:27,400 moved to Long Island in patch how very random fact. All right, do 530 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,920 you want to well, we have some time left. Do you want to 531 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,960 play another live song for us? Yeah, let's see what we got here? 532 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,639 We'd love to hear more live again. If you're just joining us. 533 00:42:37,679 --> 00:42:43,400 We have Kenny Troon live in studio here on the program. We'll get that 534 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:49,480 other mic up there. There we go. Okay, this song is called 535 00:42:49,519 --> 00:43:07,280 mark my words? All right, how many days O rental week? If 536 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:15,719 you could neverly he nor how we'll I ever get the Sunday school long tie 537 00:43:16,559 --> 00:43:22,079 Lolla knows it. The bus stops right outside of my house. It takes 538 00:43:22,119 --> 00:43:27,960 me out in Baya. Well, I'm pretty sure that I can occupy my 539 00:43:28,159 --> 00:43:35,199 life just five I'm lie, come to think of it. Mark my words, 540 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:42,880 mark your calendar? Well, the day is the day we believe in 541 00:43:43,039 --> 00:43:50,880 morejs, miracle, mon ands, miracles, Mark my words, mark your 542 00:43:51,159 --> 00:43:59,360 calendar. Well, the day is the day we believe in monanjis miracle. 543 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:07,760 How many people do we meet in our short existence? Well, our last 544 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:15,880 count about thirty eight sum odd years. And go now I know it's at 545 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:22,280 the bus stops right outside my house. Takes me out of bow. Yeah, 546 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:27,480 well, I'm pretty sure that I can occupy my life. Just fine, 547 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:34,000 I'm alive. Come to take the thing. Mark my words in market 548 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:40,480 calendar. Well, the day is the day. We believe in bols, 549 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:52,360 miracles, bonnes mimicles. Mark my words and mark your calendar. Well, 550 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:58,760 the day is the day we believe. Well, we believe, we believe. 551 00:45:01,599 --> 00:45:09,159 How will I even get to Sunday school on time? If I never 552 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:17,480 sleep a night? If I never sleep, how will I even get to 553 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:30,079 Sunday school on time? Time? Time? Who? Mark my birds? 554 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:37,719 Who mark your calendar? All? The day is the day we believe in 555 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:45,320 chans, miracle, yes, miracles, Mark my birds and mark your calendar. 556 00:45:49,079 --> 00:45:57,280 All. The day is the day. Today's the day? Oh my 557 00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,719 god, what a great song. Thank you? I love that. That's 558 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:05,760 all. I really appreciate it. What's the name of that again, that 559 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,320 song is called mark my Words? Okay, now is that is that out? 560 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:14,519 Is that available? That's on my first solo album, No Longer Scared, 561 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:19,400 which is out on all platforms? Wow? Yeah yeah really really one 562 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:23,000 of the first song not first, but like one of the earlier songs I've 563 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:29,440 written, okay, like twenty two thousand and nine, maybe I wrote it? 564 00:46:29,559 --> 00:46:31,800 Oh no kidding? Yeah, yeah, wow that is That is really 565 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:35,400 good? Thank you man, that is really good. I really appreciate it. 566 00:46:35,599 --> 00:46:40,159 Absolutely absolutely. We have Kenny Truon with us alive in studio. Is 567 00:46:40,199 --> 00:46:45,760 everything else? Like, are these as you described at, these different characters 568 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,559 they have in music as? Are they all easy to find online for people 569 00:46:49,559 --> 00:46:52,039 who want to explore they are on all the platforms? Yeah? Yeah, 570 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:59,559 it's uh if you go to my Instagram Kenny Truon music, Yeah, the 571 00:46:59,639 --> 00:47:04,679 link tree has everything so you can like it's like a treasure trove of like 572 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,800 what is this? Is this the same person? Like? So it's kind 573 00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,920 of like I don't know, I want people to find my music that way 574 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,519 and just like keep digging and me like wait, what is it? Right? 575 00:47:15,039 --> 00:47:19,239 Right? So you found it? I found the leak tree and I 576 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,639 have been sharing it. Yes, yes, thank you, Yeah, I 577 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:25,440 have. I just came out with I did a merch drop with Tea Public. 578 00:47:25,559 --> 00:47:30,280 I don't know if you guys heard of that website, but I got 579 00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,199 a lot of cool merch on my link tree that I just came out with. 580 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:37,239 This is one of them. This is my album cover to most of 581 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,559 the songs you played on the radio today. Okay, It's called Mangastine. 582 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:44,440 Okay, nice and uh yeah, So if you guys want to check out 583 00:47:44,559 --> 00:47:50,440 Mangstine, most of the songs that Matt played today, we're on that album 584 00:47:50,639 --> 00:47:52,679 Outstanding. Yeah, we're going into in a couple of minutes, we're going 585 00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,719 to close out with I've got my thumb out this live Now. Where was 586 00:47:55,800 --> 00:48:01,320 this recorded? This was recorded at my Drummers recording studio at the Coop Live 587 00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:06,360 at the Coop Studios in Irvington, New York. Oh okay, And we 588 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,440 did it on my birthday. I drove down to New York for my friend 589 00:48:09,519 --> 00:48:14,719 Sue's wedding shout at Sue and Danielle, and then the next day we went 590 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:20,360 to Irvington and I hired a videographer and we did a live in studio thing, 591 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:24,559 and this song is actually improvised, like oh no kidding. We got 592 00:48:24,639 --> 00:48:29,199 in the room and did it. We were starting to do it, and 593 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:30,360 then I was like, wait, let's wait till the cameras on and then 594 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:34,119 let's really do it, because you don't want to give it a waste of 595 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,719 energy, you know what I mean? Right of course, So once we 596 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,199 caught ourselves, we waited till the camera I was done, and then we 597 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:43,320 like started into that idea we did. And what you're about to hear is 598 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:47,199 that all improvised? Excellent, excellent, And before we do that too? 599 00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:51,400 Where should people go online? Where's the best place to go for people to 600 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,599 keep up with everything that you're doing. I would on Facebook Kenny Troon or 601 00:48:55,880 --> 00:49:00,039 Instagram Kenny Truon music. That's the two most import and hubs to find all 602 00:49:00,079 --> 00:49:04,599 my music YouTube just look up Kenny Truon. I got a ton of I 603 00:49:04,639 --> 00:49:08,079 got a channel on there, a ton of videos and uh yeah, and 604 00:49:08,159 --> 00:49:10,559 you have an unusual last name, so it's easy to find you. Yeah 605 00:49:10,679 --> 00:49:15,880 t r u h N yes, yes, which Matt has successfully said my 606 00:49:15,079 --> 00:49:19,639 name the whole time without knowing, which is great. Yeah, yeah, 607 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,239 yeah, I was asking listeners won't know this, but yeah, I was 608 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,079 asking you off the earlier, saying your last name, trust, and it 609 00:49:24,159 --> 00:49:27,880 turned turned out I got it right. Yeah. I was very happy about 610 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,159 it. Actually was talking about it this morning before we leaugh. I hope 611 00:49:31,199 --> 00:49:34,920 I'm saying that. I mean, you don't want to say it wrong. 612 00:49:35,119 --> 00:49:37,039 Like a bunch of times, I'm like, oh man, right, right, 613 00:49:37,159 --> 00:49:43,119 right, like eight times before. Does anybody ever misspell it? Like 614 00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,039 have you ever seen it misspelled like on a poster for a show or something. 615 00:49:45,119 --> 00:49:50,880 Yes, I've seen, because if they've heard my name and they try 616 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,280 to write it, I've seen it written t r u n E. Oh 617 00:49:53,400 --> 00:50:00,400 really yeah, because they're like truan like prune right, and this is Kenny 618 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,199 true Kenny. Thank you again. So thank you guys for having me absolutely 619 00:50:02,519 --> 00:50:06,239 absolutely and check this out and we'll talk to y'all a little bit later. 620 00:50:06,320 --> 00:51:00,000 Bye, everybody, nasty So well the first don't see that. I got 621 00:51:00,159 --> 00:51:12,840 my thumb out and just suniverse. Yeah, I don't know where I'm going. 622 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:24,000 I'm sure I'll get that fast shape and sound safe and sound with what 623 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:43,920 thumb out in a universe in a universe Gillow divers Universe it lost your unicorn 624 00:51:47,039 --> 00:52:35,840 with about thumb out come out this supern that's quare, that's somewhere that diverse 625 00:52:36,639 --> 00:53:34,119 way. Don't see that. I got my thumb now, I got my 626 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:39,920 thumb. Now see the verbs don't shoot. Back me up, make me 627 00:53:40,119 --> 00:53:45,320 up, beck me up, beg me up, beck me up, beck 628 00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:49,320 me up, back me up, back me up, back me up, 629 00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:53,159 deck me up, back me up, back me up, jack me up, 630 00:53:53,639 --> 00:53:55,480 back me up, back me up.