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It's a great song, but I
don't know it. Hello everybody, welcome,

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here we go. It is that
time again, Matt Connerton unleashed and

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yes we are live. This is
not the best of We are live from

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the studios of w m n H
ninety five point three FM in Gloria,

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downtown Manchester, New Hampshire. Also
on Comcast ninety seven if you're in Manchester.

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And hello to all of our online
listeners across the nation and around the

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globe. Today is Thursday, May
eleven, twenty twenty three. So yes,

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it is life so so nice to
have you all with me. I'll

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apologize and explain a little bit about
yesterday at a moment, but just um,

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yeah, so we are here.
We do not have it is Thursday.

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We usually get a call from easyg
on Thursdays to do an entertainment report,

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but he is under the weather.
So uh, Jay fed and the

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chat room says, that was quite
the best of yesterday. I yeah,

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I I need to They're all dated
at this point. I need to produce

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a new batch, a new batch
of best stus. I mean we've got

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over thirty of them, but you
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Over, you know, because we
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if for some reason I'm not able
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but also every Saturday morning we have
well say, you know, we should

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promote that more. Actually I forget
to mention it. But Saturday mornings,

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of course, from seven to nine
am, Peter runs a classic episode of

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the Morning Show with Peter White,
and then from nine to eleven am we

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have the best of Matt Connerton unleashed. But but they also run during the

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week. If I'm if I'm not
here for some reason, but so I'll

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offer a quick explanation in a moment. But six zo three two five h

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Facebook live chat. But the best
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and enjoy your dulcet tones is give
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five O six zo seven. Yeah. Eric Street in the chat room says,

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yesterday, show us funny, do
you know what date that was from?

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No, Because the best of us
that I do, when I produced

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them, I try to take content
that we call evergreen, meaning it's not

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necessarily specific to a particular time period
or a date. Although the ones that

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I've done, because I haven't produced
any new ones in a while, the

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ones that I've done are starting to
feel a little bit dated regardless. But

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when I put those together, I'll
draw clips from different shows and I try

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to keep those. The best of
tend to be less overtly political because I

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try to again, I try to
make it content that's evergreen that doesn't have

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to be you know, that isn't
necessarily relevant to a news story that was

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happening that day or that week or
in that period. So I don't even

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know what which best of ran yesterday, Eric, to be honest with you,

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couldn't tell you. But there you
go. So yeah, just a

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quick thing. So you know,
I try to and I apologize for not

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being here. I let Peter know
relatively early in the day because you know,

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some of you might know Peter is
not only the host of the morning

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show, but he's also the program
director here, so he's the one I

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alert if for any reason I'm not
going to be able to make it in.

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But you know, I try not
to let get a lot of irons

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in the fire, as they say, and I try not to let any

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professional obligation directly interfere with this obligation. Professional obligation which is my favorite of

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my obligations in terms of what I
do. I I love coming in every

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day and doing the show weekdays four
to six pm. It is a great

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joy of mine and I try hard
never to miss it. But there are

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those moments where a professional obligation will
interfere and there's just no getting around it.

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So so as a result of that, I was not able to be

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here yesterday. Some good news,
however, to share regarding all this and

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what has been happening this week,
and I've I've been very very busy,

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So uh, there's us. It's
nice that I can come in and share

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something positive about all this. There
will I'll just mention it here briefly.

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There will be more of an official
announcement on social media. But so I'm

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going to be partnering up with a
business in hooks It birch Wood Salon.

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I'm going to be learning to be
a hair No, I'm kidding. I'm

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not going to be learning to be
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I don't think I'm even legally allowed
to handle sharp objects. Anyone who's ever

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seen me eat anything that requires a
knife and fork can attest that I when

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I do have to handle something sharp
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slowly and deliberately. I'm not even
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to be funny. I really am
very very careful. So I don't,

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you know, slice off all my
fingers or something. I truly am a

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klutz. I'm not known for my
manual dexterity my friends. No. No,

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But so that is a wonderful place, birch Wood Salon and hooks it

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and I'm going to be doing hypnotherapy
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you might know I'm also a certified
hypnotherapist. And so we met and

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uh, there's one little piece of
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then that's it. It is official. So it's it's really a done deal

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already. But it's it's been interesting
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started doing hypnotherapy, well, I've
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but some of you, if you're
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if you've been here a while,
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up the street for a long time
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salon and they did a number of
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know, again just part time,
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in other places as well. But
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there and worked with her for a
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conquered and then she moved the salon
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moving the salon to Pittsfield, Uh, to cut costs and uh, you

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know, have the salon where she
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I guess that's the end of our
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I didn't exactly go that way.
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know it's like really on the on
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ultimately, uh, you know,
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know, picked up the the puzzle
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the air. So you know,
I was already doing uh sessions. Not

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not only would I do them at
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but I would also do home visits
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somebody in the area, and if
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somebody I knew, I would uh, I would sometimes go to their home

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where I still do that actually,
but when the pandemic hit, it was

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like, oh, well, this
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someone like myself and Jenny. Of
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or I guess we can say took
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according to the government, talk about
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emergency orders have ended officially, so
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which is fantastic. It's a good
feeling. Uh So uh, not that

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you shouldn't still be careful or get
tested if you think you have COVID,

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of course, but that maybe we'll
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we that is something to celebrate that
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you know, at that point when
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I was seeing clients in an office
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room in our home, and that
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did so that as far as the
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good at that and creating a very
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doing it there, I mean at
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to that, you know what I
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low overhead because you're already living there, and there's disadvantages and that people are

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coming to your your place of residence
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oh okay, nice to meet you, and uh well we'll get settled in

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and we'll do our session, and
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so uh please don't come back and
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would always I would screen that the
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client fill out, one of the
questions is are you a murderer? So

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so I would try to screen those
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for newer listeners, I do have
a dark sense of humor. No,

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I wouldn't put that on the intake
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and I still do to this day, a hypnotic suggestion during the session under

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no circumstances will you murder your hypnotherapist
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it's important, you know, just
professionally to include that. No,

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but anyway, I'm kidding sort of, but uh so, but again,

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the pandemic shows up and it's like
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home and going and sitting in that
room with me for an hour. No.

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So but again, you know,
we adapt and we go forward,

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and um something, you know,
we have to find these silver linings where

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we can. With the pandemic,
people became very accustomed and very used to

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and condition to, uh you know, uh having sessions with whether it be

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someone like me who's a hypnotherapist or
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like like my dad, he works
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so do I. Depending on who
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hypnotherapists as being a part of the
mental health field. It's it's very interesting.

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It also depends on what state you're
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states, I can't call myself a
hypnotherapist. I can only say hypnotist.

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It's actually illegal in some places to
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Maybe we'll get in all that sometime. It actually is kind of a

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I think it's an interesting subject.
Of course I would work in that field,

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but but yeah, people people got
used to in condition to doing uh,

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you know, meeting with their therapists
online, you know, via zoom

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or there's a very popular app called
doxy h that many of them use,

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and or even for even for medical
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with your your doctor and it's not
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go. Therefore, they just want
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you're okay, you know. So
people got very used to that very quickly

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to do in it that way.
So you know, again, you you

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adapt and you you go forward.
So um, that's what I've been doing.

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Almost all of my clients I've seen
online via zoom or actually via doxie,

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which I think but I think it's
built using zoom anyway, but you

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know, been thinking for a little
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into a setting where, you know, if a client doesn't want to do

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it online and they you know,
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their home, which I don't mind
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the client is in a setting where
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But you know, if they'd like
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Uh, you know, now I
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place to do that. So so
that's um, that is what has transpired

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business wise this week, and it's
pretty exciting. Uh. And and Jenny,

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I should mention, she's the one
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to initiate that that discussion with Chris
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go. So uh, pretty much
effective immediately. So so anyway, so

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it's it's been a challenging week,
but but it's turning out. It's turning

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out well. So that was my
long winded, my very long winded explanation.

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Oh by the way, if you
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might notice I also have less hair
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to Birch's Wood salon, and UH
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little lighter now, m boy.
I really my hair grows fast anyway,

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but I sometimes I just uh,
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I was twenty years old to be
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I don't know if it I don't
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that great. So it was probably
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cut. But anyway, that's my
long winded explanation. Why was why I

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was briefly absent, But and again
I apologize for that. But Shannon,

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hello, Hello, there's nothing wrong
with Portfield. You know it seems I

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well, I have at many points
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hair get long. Yes, I
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Yeah, but at this point I
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passed. Shannon. Uh, it's
it's a new season. It's a new

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season. Can I be your first
client? How much do you charge?

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You'll have to get my number and
let me know where something. Yeah,

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I'll give you a call. Your
number shows up on the caller ID.

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I don't want to get into that
on the air during the show. I

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don't think that wouldn't be be appropriate. Uh, I don't, I don't.

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I don't think management wants me booking
sessions live on the air. That

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would be a uh. I was
happy being facetious, but I'm serious.

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Okay, Well, I'll give you
a call. I'll give you a call.

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I will. I'll take down your
number. Like I said, you

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do show up on the caller ID, which you know. That's how I

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know it's you, unless you thought
that I was psychic pretending to be somebody

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else. Right. I start with
an accent, but then I finished with

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my regular voice. Yeah, that's
the thing. If you're gonna you know,

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if you're gonna do the bit,
you gotta really commit to it.

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I know you gotta commit to the
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yeah, it doesn't say I gotta
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great. I can see why you
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thank you. Just yeah, it's
it's construct constructive criticism. That's a difficult.

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Uh. That's a difficult accent to
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again, I can't do any accents. I mean, I I you know,

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like an Australian with severe head trauma. I can't do any even Australian.

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I can't do any uh I.
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by attempting one, and then I
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the funny thing is when when I'm
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takes place in England and the narrator
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English accent throughout the book, I'll
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you know, with an English accent
and Teddy Hoe yes, cheerio and things

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like that too. I think they
say that, and a lot of talk

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of tea and crumpets. I don't
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over there. I just know I
see I see these video, these video,

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this video and these images of the
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I have to tell you, Shannon, you know, I've never been much

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of an anglophial to begin with,
but I look at I look at that

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stuff and I'm creeped out by it. It's creepy to me. It's actually

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it really does. It gives me
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and his new crown and they're doing
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it that I find unsettling. Like
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like is it to be function of
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what it is, but I genuinely
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it's it doesn't belong anymore. Yeah, I wouldn't even say that because no,

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because there's a discussion about that in
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there's an ongoing discussion and they're probably
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has the monarchy outlived it's usefulness,
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ever was. But um no,
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see I see pictures from the coronation
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chill up my spine. It's like, I don't I can't quite explain it,

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but there's something creepy and weird about
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look different. It might not be
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creepy. You mean he does.
He does look creepy. He's like if

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he approached me, h at a
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but if he approached me at a
party, I'd probably uh find a

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way to very stealthily get away from
him. I just he looks like someone

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I would be very nervous around,
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And I hope our new friend,
uh Conrad war from the bandbes Deluxe,

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who came here from from there.
I hope he's not offended by this

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if he happens to be listening.
And and Conrad's lovely, so you know,

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it's certainly nothing against British people,
but there's something about, Yeah,

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there's something about Charles there. And
he's got the crown and the whole thing.

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There's something weird. There's like I'm
picking up on something just not okay

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about the whole deal. It's it's
just it, uh it I have nightmares

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about it, Annon, I mean
I haven't yet had a nightmare. But

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before you go to bed, H
don't want I don't have any tea before

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you go, I don't even I
don't even like tea. I won't have

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any crumpets either and uh and I
will not good. I didn't want to

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call Peter show this morning because it
was Barbio's day back. But oh yes,

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I want to ask Peter if and
I don't know if you've heard of

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this show keeping up appearances. It
used to be on PBS. Yea,

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and I used to stay at my
grandmother's. She'd had that on it.

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It was Hyacinth Bouquet. Yeah,
people would pronounce a bucket. Yeah.

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and no, it's not setting an
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neighborhood and you get Hyacinthe and Richard
and her son shared. I didn't what

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am I thinking of? Oh anyway, I don't I know. I've seen

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the show. Is it an older
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No? Okay, middle middle aged
I'm thinking about I'm thinking about a

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different show then, okay, Because
because there was Hyacinth, her sister Rose,

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there was a sister. Really,
I think maybe I was thinking an

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end because I'm thinking of faulty towers. Oh, I don't know. That's

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a great show. I mean,
I've only seen it a handful of times.

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like I have seen keeping up appearances, but probably a long long time ago,

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long long time ago, m m
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was a I don't there was a
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know them? Have you Have you
ever listened at all on Sundays once in

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a while to the Great Guild to
Sleep? Oh? I love the Old

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Time radio on Sundays for listeners who
don't know on Sundays here, I think

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it runs from noon to midnight.
It's uh, it's old time radio shows

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all day and there's some great stuff. I love, Uh CBS and I've

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told Peter this too, you know, because he does all the programming.

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I love CBS Radio Mystery Theater,
that's my favorite thing. There's a show

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called X minus one that has a
little more of a sci fi vibe,

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which is really cool. And uh
and a couple other shows. Um.

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The comedy stuff I don't like as
much, just because you know, obviously

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it's of its time and so it's
not well, you know, when when

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best comes on. Oh no,
yeah, yeah, I mean, I

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you know, I respect all that
stuff, but I wouldn't I can't listen

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to it, but I like I
like later in the day when the real

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like CBS Radio Mystery Theater is just
fantastic. I love those. Well,

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I've got two good jello pie recipes
from costening to the I love Lucy commercials

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because you do jello. Oh yeah, yeah, it's fun to hear the

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old commercials. Yeah. I like
the ones about Chesterfield cigarettes. Apparently those

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were the ones that doctors recommended because
they were those are those are the healthy

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cigarettes? Yeah, there was a
commercial I want to say during one of

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them, the Philip Milo. Yeah, shows where doctors were pulled and more

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dosers. I wish I had gotten
that recording. Oh, Tony, Tony

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Patrello's in the chat room. He
also loves CBS Radio Mystery Theater. Yeah,

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those are Yeah, those are fantastic. There's also a show what is

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it, uh, Space Patrol with
a patrol Yes, Corey Happy, Oh

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yeah, yeah, yeah, there's
and those are It's funny because you think

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you hear the name space Patrol and
you think it's probably silly and goofy,

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but the stories are are are actually
very sophisticated and complex and really really good

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stuff. Yeah. I listened to
those. Yeah, I don't like X

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minus one so much. And I
don't know, but it like I could

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not get into reading the book Clockwork
Orange or it's a Harry Potter. I

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think it's the names to get me
the weird name. I don't know.

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Well, I don't like Harry Potter
because it reminds me of King Charles.

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It's too British for me. Yeah, I'm telling you he's evil. He's

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an evil man. Don't trust him
because Lawrence Welk would be on. I'd

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watched that and I was just reading
a book, The Black Lights. Yeah,

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black Lights by um Tom Howser.
I think it is. It's about

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boxing. Oh okay, yeah,
I'm not familiar. What was it going

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to say about it? Oh?
Tone, I know I've watched some of

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them. I remember watching some of
those fights when I was oh no kidding.

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Oh wow, Um, I probably
saw him, I don't know.

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Yeah, I probably saw Maham at
least fight. Oh that's cool. Yeah,

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yeah, Tony says in the chat
room. YouTube has a ton of

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the CBS Radio mystery theater shows and
it's it's funny that you mentioned that,

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Tony, because I I've had occasions
where I've been in the car and I'm

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listening to an episode of that in
the car on a Sunday, and I

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get to my destination and I have
to leave the car, but I want

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to hear I'm so wrapped up in
the show. I want to hear the

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rest of it, but I don't
have time to sit there and listen to

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it. So I'll actually, I'll
just pull out my phone and I'll just

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if I don't know the name of
the episode, I'll just google, like

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some of the names of the characters
or some details of the episode, and

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I'll find it right away, and
I'll find it on YouTube, so then

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I can listen to it later on
YouTube if I want to hear how it

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ends. Realized. This is a
stupid question for everybody that uses computers,

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But couldn't you just put your phone
on ninety three boys by Its? Yeah,

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But if I'm like, if I'm
going to a store or something,

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I don't want to be walking around
in the store listening to the radio shown

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a driveway moment you sit and listen
to the breast right. Yeah, But

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that's that's one thing to do.
If it's a song or a really great

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radio segment. But if it's like
if it's a half hour CBS radio mystery

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theater and I'm halfway through it,
I don't necessarily want to sit in the

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car for another fifteen minutes just sitting
there listening. You know, people might

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walk by, they might think I'm
weird, like I'm some creep or something.

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I'm very self conscious about that kind
of thing, although less so now

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that I have my new haircut.
When I have when when I when I

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let my hair be long, you
know, I'll have people walking up to

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me going, hey, man,
you got a cigarette. They don't do

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that when my hair is short.
For real, I'm completely serious about that.

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When when my hair is long,
everyone assumes I'm a smoker, which

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is ironic given that I'm a hypnotherapist
and I help people quit smoking. Okay,

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so that's what that is. That's
what what is the hypnotherapy stuff?

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Well you can do many things with
it, but that's the number one thing

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that I see clients for. Okay, yep, all right, all right,

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Joel, I will let go and
uh, today's Thursday, so yes,

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you have a great day. Tomorrow
is your fun day. Yes,

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favorite Friday is my favorite day.
Of the week. It's my long day

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here at WMNH and I love it. I have this show and then I

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come back for Retrospectrum Radio with policy. Yes. And when when you said

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are you going to play the Cagny
and Lacy song for Shannon? That I

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was. I was hoping i'd hear
it. But who said that? Paul

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said that? You said that last
Friday. I didn't say that. I

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don't. I don't know. I
remember you bringing it up, but I

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never said I would. I don't. I don't decide. Oh yeah,

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but I don't think he said.
But he never said he would play it.

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Oh no, No, No,
No, he didn't. No,

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that's up to him, right right. And then I think he said no,

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And I think he said that he
will never play it as long as

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he lives. Ever, probably I
know right, Well, keep so we'll

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keep working on him, Shannon.
Someday, someday we'll crack him. I

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love la I love all your shows. I just there's a little time to

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get past him Bush, past the
what jahing? It's it's it just took

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me a little time. This matter, okay, But no, you and

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Jenny have a nice weekend. Thank
you. You don't like you. You're

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not a hiker camper type me.
No, I don't go into the woods.

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Uh. Yeah, there's deer ticks
in the woods, which I'm very

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afraid of. I don't want.
I don't want to end up with lime

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disease. Uh, you've got the
blair witch is in the woods. That's

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very frightening to me. I don't
want to be in a tent and all

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of a sudden something is shaking the
tent and I don't know what to do.

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Stay in the tent, go outside, end up in a weird basement

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in the corner. I don't want
any of that. So that scares me.

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And also too, there's wild animals. Tiger might eat me or something.

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No, I don't go into the
woods. Let let let if he's

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listening, even though he's done feeling
well, I hope he feels better.

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But I had written him a little
letter. Oh and I sent that out

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April third or fourth. Yeah,
so I don't know if he got it.

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I don't either somebody in the mail
room because because I don't know what

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floor he's on or anything. So
I just put a tension. But well,

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if he calls, I will ask
him or he can take a day

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and you know he'll have something to
do, go in search of I think

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Bruce stole it. He might have. Bruce is a big mail thief.

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Let's start that rumor. Yeah,
he might sit. I'll give it tool

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mm hmm yeah. Never trust your
mail with Bruce. All right, Well

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you guys have a nice weekend,
all right, thank you, shann tonight.

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Okay, excellent, We'll talk to
you soon. Thank you, bye

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bye, all right. Always nice
here from our friend Shannon. And that

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does open up a line for you. Six zero three two five six seven

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six zo three two five six seven
is the studio line. Jenny said in

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the chat. There's a strange man
on my screen. L old, it's

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just me, Melanie said, nice
blair Witch reference. I do love the

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blair Witch Project. People made fun
of it. Some people made fun of

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it when it came out. I
think the blair Witch Project and I'm not

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saying this to be funny. I
absolutely sincerely mean this. I think it's

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absolutely brilliant. I think it is
brilliant, but at all but some of

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the reactions to it did at the
time when it came out. Because I

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was working at Strawberries on loudon Road
and Conquered and of course Strawberries. We

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sold DVDs and CDs, and eventually
it got bought bought by trans World,

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who also owns Fye and so forth. But I remember working there at the

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time when that movie came out and
when it came out on DVD there,

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well, actually when it was still
in the theaters and it was really popular.

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00:30:26,039 --> 00:30:30,319
Some of the conversations I had with
people were very strange, because the

407
00:30:30,319 --> 00:30:34,440
whole point of it is to make
it look like it's real, but nobody's

408
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:41,119
supposed to be actually fooled. Like
I'd have conversations with people who'd come in

409
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,519
the store. They'd be like,
Wow, I can't believe they found that

410
00:30:44,599 --> 00:30:47,400
video and then made a movie out
of it. That almost seems wrong.

411
00:30:47,559 --> 00:30:51,839
It's like they're they're exploiting the people
in the movie who died, and it's

412
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:59,359
like, um. So I remember
having a conversation with one specific person where

413
00:30:59,359 --> 00:31:02,799
they said something like that to me, and I'm like, Hey, did

414
00:31:02,839 --> 00:31:06,880
you happen to see did you happen
to see the other night the Tonight Show

415
00:31:07,279 --> 00:31:12,039
where the guests on the show were
the people in the Blair Witch Project.

416
00:31:12,559 --> 00:31:18,039
The three main cast members they were
on the show. Yeah, yeah,

417
00:31:18,079 --> 00:31:21,559
I saw that. Okay, but
you just told me you think it's wrong

418
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:26,640
that they took that video and made
a movie out of it and exploited the

419
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,720
deaths of these people. So when
you see the actors on your television,

420
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:36,119
what happens in your brain? Anything? I mean, really, it was.

421
00:31:36,279 --> 00:31:40,279
It was bizarre, like it's I
guess it's cool that in a way

422
00:31:40,319 --> 00:31:45,920
that people bought into it and suspended
their disbelief. But you're really you're really

423
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:52,759
only required to suspend your disbelief while
you're actually watching the film. It doesn't

424
00:31:52,839 --> 00:31:56,880
need to carry over afterward while you're
walking around going wow, I can't believe

425
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,559
they made a movie out of that. But no, I think Blair Wins

426
00:32:00,559 --> 00:32:06,200
project is brilliant. We have a
call. Hi, Welcome to Matt Connerton

427
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:10,079
unleashed. Who's this. I didn't
know you are a hypnotherapist. Yes,

428
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:16,519
I am Dave Ridley, but I'm
not. I'm not. You're not a

429
00:32:16,599 --> 00:32:23,680
hypnotherapist. That's what I called to
tell you, all right. I never

430
00:32:23,759 --> 00:32:30,000
I never suspected that you were to
tell you the truth. I mean,

431
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:35,680
when would you have time to hypnotize
anybody you're you're busy trying to uh seceed

432
00:32:35,759 --> 00:32:40,039
from the Union. Yeah, it
takes up a lot of hours. That's

433
00:32:40,039 --> 00:32:44,160
actually the federal government's job. The
federal government will do the stuff that needs

434
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:49,720
to be done that makes New Hampshire
rights want to leave. I want to

435
00:32:49,759 --> 00:32:54,240
leave New Hampshire or leave the Union. Maybe both. Oh, well,

436
00:32:54,240 --> 00:33:00,839
that's a boy. That's disheartening although
young people. Yeah, but you know,

437
00:33:00,119 --> 00:33:05,240
if we have if we have an
independent nation here, then I think

438
00:33:05,279 --> 00:33:08,279
that it would draw people here.
It would be special. Now, I

439
00:33:08,279 --> 00:33:14,079
know you don't like my idea about
having a nuclear weapon. If we become

440
00:33:14,079 --> 00:33:19,599
our own country, what about just
a small If we can't have a nuke,

441
00:33:20,279 --> 00:33:27,119
how about just a couple of bunker
busters. So if you really want

442
00:33:27,119 --> 00:33:30,559
to talk seriously about like a national
defense or what's the best policy for a

443
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:37,400
small, independent, maybe neutral nation
to have, the simple answer is probably

444
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:42,599
just two words. It's probably just
Costa Rica. You want to invade Costa

445
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:47,279
Rica? No, No, it's
just if you just look at Costa Rica,

446
00:33:47,359 --> 00:33:51,680
you learn what happens when you get
rid of your military and you go

447
00:33:51,799 --> 00:33:54,599
neutral. Even if you're in a
bad neighborhood, your life gets better.

448
00:33:54,799 --> 00:34:00,920
So Costa Rica got rid of its
military in the nineteen forties, and of

449
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,640
course obviously since then there have been
problems in Central America. They're right next

450
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,679
to Nicaragua and Honduras everything. But
actually they've never had a war, they've

451
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:14,880
never had They've been a great place
to live in a bad neighborhood really for

452
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:19,199
a long time now because they got
rid of their military, didn't spend money

453
00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:22,239
on a military in the first place, and didn't form any alliance. Does

454
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:27,119
it make sense, yeah, yeah, so they remained neutral unaligned. I

455
00:34:27,159 --> 00:34:30,920
think the term we use. Yes, it's likely that actually having a military

456
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:35,719
just puts you more at risk.
Your military becomes a risk to your people,

457
00:34:36,559 --> 00:34:40,840
or it goes making trouble with neighbors
and stuff like that, and so

458
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,360
that that's one way to do it. Of course, there are ways to

459
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:50,159
have a military and be independent and
be neutral. That now, like Switzerland,

460
00:34:50,159 --> 00:34:52,719
that's nothing, but there their military
costs them a lot of money.

461
00:34:52,719 --> 00:35:00,400
I suspect to Costa Rica approach is
better. Well in Switzerland is Oh I'm

462
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:05,079
sorry, I almost said something really
foolish. Yeah, Switzerland is neutral.

463
00:35:05,119 --> 00:35:07,239
I was thinking of I was in
my mind for a moment there I conflated

464
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:13,760
Switzerland with Sweden because Sweden is joining
NATO or has joined NATO. Switzerland,

465
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:22,239
yes, they are neutral, but
they do have a military. Switzerland has

466
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,920
a big military. I mean for
its size, I think everybody does,

467
00:35:25,039 --> 00:35:29,280
right except I mean, who who
other than Costa Rica. So when you

468
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,760
say Costa Rica has as no military, you mean literally no military at all,

469
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:37,719
no defense whatsoever. Well, you
know, yeah, police, they

470
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,519
have like I think maybe a coast
guard or something like that. I'm not

471
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:44,239
you know, I don't remember all
a detail. Yeah, but they had

472
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,239
a civil they had a civil war
in the forties, and I think that

473
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:51,639
was what convinced them that the military
was more of a problem than a solution,

474
00:35:52,559 --> 00:35:54,599
and just their unique situation in the
way they came out of the war

475
00:35:55,400 --> 00:36:00,719
made them choose to do that when
other countries did not. Then I'm not

476
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,800
sure that i'd ever even been tried
before there was there was a nation in

477
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,360
the ancient times, the Indus Valley
civilization. I'm not sure if they had

478
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:13,800
a military or not, but they
never had a war. Okay, that

479
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,880
was in modern day Pakistan, very
advanced. I don't remember what the timeline

480
00:36:19,039 --> 00:36:22,159
was here. Um, but yeah, now that's special. The fact that

481
00:36:22,199 --> 00:36:27,320
they proved that could be done in
the ancient and very very violent world.

482
00:36:28,159 --> 00:36:31,920
Uh, is just it's like that
should be the ninth wonder of the world,

483
00:36:32,039 --> 00:36:35,559
right or one of the seventh wonder
of the ancient world? Right?

484
00:36:37,559 --> 00:36:42,800
Yes. Now, so our friend
Jay Fed has a question, and I

485
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,960
think he's I think he's sort of
kidding, but but it does raise a

486
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:50,960
serious point. So maybe he's not
kidding. Here's here's the question, and

487
00:36:51,599 --> 00:36:52,440
I'll and then I'll tell you what
I take from it, and then we'll

488
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:57,039
get your answer to Dave. So, j Fed says, could do Hampshire

489
00:36:57,079 --> 00:36:59,960
become their own nation? He's he's
actually in Vermont, but he says,

490
00:37:00,119 --> 00:37:04,000
could New Ampsher become their own nation? Then the USA could go in and

491
00:37:04,159 --> 00:37:07,360
kick New Hampshire's ass and take it
back. That would be like the only

492
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:12,320
war the US is one now.
But that does raise a serious question.

493
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,320
So if we become as New Hampshire
seceeds, we become our own nation,

494
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,280
and we don't have any kind of
defense, what is to stop the United

495
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:24,920
States from invading us and and just
taking us back. Well, you could,

496
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,679
again, there's a lot of different
options you could take the Costa Rica

497
00:37:30,679 --> 00:37:34,599
approach, where we're just the good
guys, We're a harmless why are you

498
00:37:34,639 --> 00:37:37,480
invading us? Or you could take
the Swiss approach, where we're armed to

499
00:37:37,519 --> 00:37:44,400
the teeth and every every home has
a mandated assault rifle it and everyone's required

500
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,800
to join the military. But you
don't. But but you're but you're neutral

501
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:52,000
and peaceful. You could do that. Or another option would be, uh,

502
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:57,599
to do the Gandhi mode where Gandhi
had a plan for fighting the Japanese

503
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,400
if they invaded India, which they
almost did do in World War Two,

504
00:38:01,039 --> 00:38:05,920
and his plan was basically, don't
don't try to kill any of them,

505
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,079
but just do due to them what
we did is a British you know,

506
00:38:08,119 --> 00:38:14,800
and just just mask civil discobedience,
constantly disobeying everything they wanted to do.

507
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:19,440
Drive the nut. Actually, the
Japanese liked Gandhi, so I don't think

508
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,320
it would have really even come to
that the Japanese government in the World War

509
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:30,880
two era. But uh, that's
another option. The fourth option would be

510
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,760
what I could then this has never
been tried. Well this, I don't

511
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,719
think this has really been tried before. The closest thing would be Yugoslavia under

512
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:45,079
Tito his he had a plan to
fight the Soviet Union by going straight into

513
00:38:45,159 --> 00:38:47,360
guerrilla war. They weren't going to
bother defending any borders, they weren't going

514
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:51,239
to have any dog fights in the
air. They were going to go push

515
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:55,079
straight straight into the mountains of Bosnia
and just fight from there. And that

516
00:38:55,079 --> 00:39:00,079
that would be another option. And
then I guess the fifth option tifth option

517
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:09,679
roughly would be something more along the
lines of a completely decentralized individual base guerrilla

518
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:14,239
resistance, where you don't really you
don't have any command and control, you

519
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,400
just had the governor just says,
here's the parameters. We're asking all of

520
00:39:17,519 --> 00:39:22,800
the people of New Hampshire to resist
along these lines. Here's what you can't

521
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,800
do, here's what you can do, and I'm going to go into hiding

522
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:30,639
now and then just let them fight
it out. So again, the Hampshire

523
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,159
could go straight into guerrilla war if
it were invaded. But I favor,

524
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,880
I guess I favor probably something along
the lines of the Costa Rica or Gandhi

525
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:46,159
model. Definitely don't like the idea
of shooting at US forces, even if

526
00:39:46,159 --> 00:39:51,000
we were even if we were already
independent and this was twenty years after independence

527
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,440
and they invaded. I'm not sure
I want to even then, I'm not

528
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,480
sure I want to see them shot. Certainly in this case, like the

529
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,679
way it is right now, the
US government has enough of an aura of

530
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:07,480
legitimacy left that any kind of violent
resistance against them reduces your chance of success.

531
00:40:07,079 --> 00:40:10,840
Um. The science is this,
lady, They call it the Scientists

532
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:15,880
of Civil Disobedience. Your name is
Erica Chanowi, and she ran some studies

533
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:20,679
that show if you push it,
if you go violent in your succession drive,

534
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:25,840
your chances of succeeding go down by
a factor of three. Interesting.

535
00:40:27,559 --> 00:40:34,320
Why does does she explain why?
Um? I think it's because it makes

536
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:39,159
the invader or the crackdown government or
the dictator or whatever. It makes their

537
00:40:39,199 --> 00:40:45,199
forces feel more comfortable being against you. If you're cheating at them, that

538
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:50,960
makes sense. But if you're if
you're resisting peaceably, then it just starts

539
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,760
to become they're fighting their brother,
they're fighting their liquor store owner, they're

540
00:40:54,800 --> 00:41:01,039
just the number of people that can
resist becomes so big if you're talking about

541
00:41:01,119 --> 00:41:06,199
non violent resistance, and the number
of methods that can be used becomes so

542
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:13,119
wide with non violent resistance that it
just massively increases your potential for a large

543
00:41:13,199 --> 00:41:15,440
movement. Does it make sense?
It does. Yeah, And actually a

544
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:20,480
couple of the options too that you
mentioned, at least a couple maybe three,

545
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,920
uh, in terms of what you
know, if if if New Hampshire

546
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:30,280
had succeeded and then UH invaded by
the United States. UM. We do

547
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:37,719
live in a state that is armed
to the teeth. So I suppose with

548
00:41:37,039 --> 00:41:42,199
all the people who do have guns, UH, there would be at least

549
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:46,159
a couple of the options that you
mentioned would would work or would at least

550
00:41:46,159 --> 00:41:53,920
be tried as far as defending the
state against the US, the Swiss model

551
00:41:54,360 --> 00:42:00,880
or the UM, the guerrilla war
model, the Tito model. UM would

552
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:07,039
be more useful if we if we
were invaded by China long after declaring independence

553
00:42:07,119 --> 00:42:12,079
or something like that, something that's
so foreign an alien. In cases like

554
00:42:12,119 --> 00:42:17,119
that, violent resistance apparently is more
considered more appropriate and more effective because you're

555
00:42:17,119 --> 00:42:25,599
fighting against something that has no or
of legitimacy to lose. Yeah, trying

556
00:42:25,679 --> 00:42:30,000
to I believe will never invade the
ampsition no matter what happens. That's not

557
00:42:30,119 --> 00:42:34,079
their way of doing things. They
would try to influence the government. They're

558
00:42:34,079 --> 00:42:37,119
already trying to do that with Nunu. Um, they would do their China

559
00:42:37,199 --> 00:42:40,400
thing, and it's it's very different
from the way the United States goes in

560
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:45,880
with kinetics. Um. You know, they just you know, China doesn't

561
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:50,079
go to war nearly as often as
the United States. Says you saw something

562
00:42:50,159 --> 00:42:55,280
interesting there, Dave. But what
you China already trying to influence Governor Sanunu.

563
00:42:55,400 --> 00:43:00,119
What do you mean, Well,
the EXPERI did I know about it

564
00:43:00,159 --> 00:43:04,480
is just two things. First of
all, Um, they have a rating

565
00:43:04,519 --> 00:43:08,159
system where they they rate all of
America's governors on how friendly they are toward

566
00:43:08,199 --> 00:43:13,519
Beijing. Really, and so they've
given governors into a rating. I don't

567
00:43:13,559 --> 00:43:17,599
know what his rating is, the
pier low in their esteem. Um.

568
00:43:17,639 --> 00:43:24,119
And the other thing is UH.
Beijing has UH sort of a sort of

569
00:43:24,119 --> 00:43:30,239
an unofficial consulate in New Hampshire.
You might say it's called a Confucius centor

570
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:36,360
oh you've you've you've talked about those
before and and and um, not to

571
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,400
derail you, Dave, but my
dad has talked. My dad was the

572
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:42,239
first one to bring to my attention, and it's popped up in the news

573
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:46,639
a little bit. These um these
uh police stations effectively that the China has

574
00:43:46,639 --> 00:43:50,159
in the United States. And I
don't know if that's if that is in

575
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,960
any relation of the Confucius Centers.
I remember you talking about about the Confucius

576
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:58,840
Centers. I don't know if there's
a direct h connection there between that and

577
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,239
the these sort of weird police stations
that they have. But uh, I

578
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,840
didn't mean to interrupt you. I
just said I thought of that when you

579
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:10,920
mentioned the Confucius Centers. The Confucius
Centers are not police stations. They're they're

580
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:16,079
totally soft power. It's just it's
like an educational thing. So it's funded

581
00:44:16,079 --> 00:44:21,360
by the Chinese government, and their
thing is to appear basic usually at at

582
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:28,159
US university's for instance. In this
case it's the unh at Durham in eastern

583
00:44:28,159 --> 00:44:31,039
New Hampshire. Yeah, you went
to you went to visit them, right,

584
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,800
I went. Yes, I went
to the Confucius Center and I was

585
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,800
going to do the riddly report stuff
and ask them questions with my camera and

586
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:43,599
everything, but they were always gone
when I would go there. Um.

587
00:44:43,639 --> 00:44:47,360
I did do a little demonstration in
front of there in the office. Yeah,

588
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:51,400
but I just had a free I
had a free Hong Kong sign.

589
00:44:52,679 --> 00:44:54,480
But you know, they're they're not
as nefarious as they could be. The

590
00:44:54,519 --> 00:44:58,679
idea as to teach help kids learn
Mandarin, to help the college kids learn

591
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,880
Mandarin, and they te delt teach
a class on Chinese history and stuff like

592
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:06,239
that. Yeah, it's not all
evil, but it's definitely funded by the

593
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:10,840
Chinese government and they obviously are going
to have their expectations that it will improve

594
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:15,880
Chinese power in somewhere. They wouldn't
be funding it. It beats it beats

595
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:22,880
Iraq war. Right, it's better
than uh US invasion of Afghanistan. Right.

596
00:45:22,039 --> 00:45:27,519
It's the Chinese way of expanding.
And there's all kinds of evils that

597
00:45:27,559 --> 00:45:30,760
come along with it, but it's
not you know, it's not always as

598
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:35,719
bad as what the US does.
Interesting. Okay, do you know about

599
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,599
the the other thing, the police
stations. I've never heard about that,

600
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:44,039
Okay, Yeah, it's it's interesting
though. Um there was one in uh,

601
00:45:44,119 --> 00:45:46,800
I think in Chinatown in New York
City, um, where they have

602
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:52,400
these uh yeah, these these sort
of I guess makeshift police stations set up

603
00:45:52,760 --> 00:46:00,800
and they they they harass uh some
of the residents there who are who?

604
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:06,760
Uh immigrated from China to the United
States, And uh, it's interesting.

605
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,360
It's a weird thing. When I
when I first heard about it, I

606
00:46:08,639 --> 00:46:13,559
thought it was I thought it was
some made up conspiracy theory thing. But

607
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,920
this has actually been getting a little
bit of coverage and in mainstream media outlets.

608
00:46:19,079 --> 00:46:22,000
Uh but uh, yeah, it's
it's it's interesting. I don't know

609
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:27,400
how many of them there are or
anything like that, but but but I

610
00:46:27,079 --> 00:46:35,320
did have no no, the Chinese
government was implicated in For example, there

611
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:42,039
was a student in Australia who was
just organizing like a very ramshackle protest against

612
00:46:42,039 --> 00:46:45,280
the I don't know, you know, be an invasion off the bad or

613
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:50,440
Hong Kong or whatever. Wasn't you
know the particular of Hong Kong Um.

614
00:46:50,519 --> 00:46:52,559
I think he was late to his
own protest, who was going to have

615
00:46:52,639 --> 00:46:57,000
like ten people, but a bunch
of thugs showed up and started beating on

616
00:46:57,119 --> 00:47:01,159
his protesters, really beat on him. And then the university blamed him you

617
00:47:01,199 --> 00:47:06,519
shouldn't have had a demonstration against Chinese
government, and they tried to expel him

618
00:47:06,519 --> 00:47:12,920
from school in the Beijing. The
Beijing UM Embassy in Australia got involved in

619
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,840
supporting the uh, the Ruffians,
you know, the the the guys who

620
00:47:17,159 --> 00:47:22,519
were assaulting everybody, um and uh. But so you weren't allowed to hold

621
00:47:22,559 --> 00:47:28,159
a sign on your own campus.
You know in Australia. This is about

622
00:47:28,199 --> 00:47:30,360
you know, three years ago and
this happened, so that that is eventually

623
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:35,400
coming. That's eventually coming here.
You know. It's China really does have

624
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,599
you know, they are the world's
up and coming superpower and it's not gonna

625
00:47:38,679 --> 00:47:42,800
get it's not gonna get smaller,
and their power is not going to go

626
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,360
away. So what do you have
to learn? What the what the appropriate

627
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:51,320
response to this? You know,
how do you handle it? Uh?

628
00:47:52,199 --> 00:47:53,960
And there's a lot of different opens
but like I said, I just mentioned

629
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:58,840
five for an independent New Hampshire,
right, They're easy to you know,

630
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,960
pick and choose from. Some are
easier than others. Some have lost any

631
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:07,679
money at all. There's all kinds
of methods we can use to hold China

632
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:14,480
at bay, even as a very
small country. And I actually the Chinese

633
00:48:14,559 --> 00:48:17,920
understand this and respect that to some
extent, and they're not they're not usually

634
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:22,079
one too. For instance, the
Chinese government is not trying to make all

635
00:48:22,119 --> 00:48:24,639
the governments in the world communists,
right, like like the Americans trying to

636
00:48:24,639 --> 00:48:31,880
make everything a democracy. True.
Jenny says in the chat that she saw

637
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:36,760
a news report that says they have
set up those Chinese police stations in Canada.

638
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,440
Wow. Well, well, actually
I shouldn't be surprised because they when

639
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:44,519
they sent that spy balloon over,
it went over not only the United States,

640
00:48:44,559 --> 00:48:50,280
but over Canada as well. Yeah, the fights coming here, you

641
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,239
know. Um, like there was
some guys that set up or some artists

642
00:48:53,239 --> 00:49:00,599
that made a lampy lampoon Chijian thing
like with a uh, sculpture or something

643
00:49:00,639 --> 00:49:05,639
like that, and she jing things. People keep coming in and trying to

644
00:49:05,679 --> 00:49:07,280
burn this sculpture down, and they
guess they've already burned They've burned it down

645
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:12,480
on the first try actually call correctly. Uh. And it was just gonna

646
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,320
this is about in the middle of
nowhere in the United States somewhere. Really

647
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:22,519
yep, interesting, very interesting.
Um all right, well, I feel

648
00:49:22,559 --> 00:49:24,599
like we went in a couple of
different directions. Is that why you called

649
00:49:24,679 --> 00:49:30,079
Dave or was there some other reason
I was gonna call about something else that

650
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:31,320
I've taken up so much of your
time. I may just call back in

651
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:35,119
about it later. It's not time
since to do okay, Yeah, New

652
00:49:35,119 --> 00:49:37,760
Hampshire News. Yeah, we are
approaching the top of the hour, so

653
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,480
that's fine, but no interesting discussion, Dave. I appreciate the call,

654
00:49:40,599 --> 00:49:45,519
my friend. Yep, all right, Dave. Oh, I do want

655
00:49:45,559 --> 00:49:49,679
to plug anything at Ridley Report or
an H exit or oh yeah, n

656
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,760
hit dot us. Uh. Speaking
of which NH exit, I guess they

657
00:49:53,800 --> 00:50:00,280
guess they've hired an aircraft. Maybe
it was gonna rove New Hampshire. Uh

658
00:50:00,639 --> 00:50:07,440
with a anective banner. Oh,
no kidding. Oh that's fun. Yeah,

659
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:08,440
all right, very good. I'll
let you know if I see it.

660
00:50:10,079 --> 00:50:13,480
All right, all right, Dave, thank you, have a good

661
00:50:13,559 --> 00:50:16,119
day. All right, bye bye
bye. All right, that was our

662
00:50:16,159 --> 00:50:22,760
friend Dave Ridley. Ironically enough,
some breaking news just came over the wire.

663
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:29,239
China has just invaded Costa Rica.
So Dave, if you're still listening,

664
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,000
I bet you feel pretty foolish now
about them not having their own military.

665
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:37,840
Uh uh. Melanie said in the
chat room, you guys would be

666
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:44,000
so much happier as Vermonters. We
have reproductive rights, legalized marijuana. We

667
00:50:44,079 --> 00:50:47,639
generally kick ass over here and Jenny
pointed out that Vermont has a state income

668
00:50:47,679 --> 00:50:54,159
tax staying in New Hampshire. Yes, but yeah, by the way,

669
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:58,920
we're two of the safest states I
just saw. You know, there's always

670
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:06,960
every year there's these polls that show
data from uh oh wow. Okay,

671
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,239
I'll tell you in the second what
I was oh wowing about. Um there's

672
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:15,079
uh, you know, data about
crime statistics across the country, and as

673
00:51:15,199 --> 00:51:21,320
usual, New Hampshire and Vermont,
I believe both ranked in the top five

674
00:51:21,519 --> 00:51:24,800
of safest states that you can live
in in the United States. I think

675
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:29,519
Maine was in the top five as
well. I was saying, oh wow,

676
00:51:29,599 --> 00:51:34,360
Jenny just messaged me that our guest, Chris Connor, had to cancel

677
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:38,960
tomorrow. We will reschedule him.
Of course, a podcaster and he interviews

678
00:51:39,199 --> 00:51:43,679
a lot of MMA fighters and I
was looking forward to speaking with him.

679
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,880
But sounds like he's got a bit
of a challenge that he's dealing with at

680
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:53,159
the moment, So we hope he's
okay. But we're all ready we're already

681
00:51:53,199 --> 00:51:55,639
approaching the top of the hour.
Let's go ahead and take our break now.

682
00:51:55,679 --> 00:52:00,440
I'm gonna play a track from the
Stone Road band Brutus also opened with

683
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:06,559
a track of Theirs. We do
play Stone Road Band's music on the show

684
00:52:06,639 --> 00:52:12,320
occasionally because one of the guys from
the Stone Road Band is singer songwriter Kevin

685
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,760
Horn, who is going to be
at the hop Knot this weekend. Our

686
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687
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By the way, today is Thursday, which means tonight is Trivia Night

688
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at the hop Knot. It starts
at seven pm, so it's back to

689
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its old time. Broderick Lang is
doing it now, I believe because Bill

690
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Seene he had other commitments, so
broder broder it. Broderick Lang is the

691
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new guide getting rave reviews there at
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692
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693
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call ahead or contact via social media
to reserve a spot because that's a very

694
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,639
popular feature there at the hop Knot
and those spots do fill up quickly.

695
00:52:54,159 --> 00:52:59,800
And then Saturday night, Kevin Horn
of the Stone road Band will be doing

696
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:01,760
this thing at the hop Knot from
seven to nine pm, So we're going

697
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:06,519
to play another track from his band, the Stone road Band. I really

698
00:53:06,519 --> 00:53:08,679
love these guys. And by the
way, Kevin Horn is going to be

699
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:13,639
a guest right here on Matt Connerton
Unleashed. I don't remember the date,

700
00:53:14,119 --> 00:53:15,159
but that is going to be coming
up soon as well, and I'm really

701
00:53:15,159 --> 00:53:20,119
looking forward to meeting him. But
anyway, so we'll give this a spin

702
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,199
and we'll show some love to our
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703
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:27,760
back with our number two numrrowed dose
of Matt Connerton Unleashed. There is plenty

704
00:53:27,800 --> 00:54:12,280
more to come. Don't go away, Welcome back everybody. It is Matt

705
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:16,360
Connerton Unleashed as we cruise into our
second hour new merrow Dose. Here we

706
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:21,920
are well into our second hour,
actually live from the studios of w m

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00:54:22,079 --> 00:54:27,119
n H ninety five point three FM
in Glorious downtown Manchester, New Hampshire,

708
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,000
also on Comcast ninety seven. If
you're in Manchester and hello to Olive our

709
00:54:30,039 --> 00:54:32,719
online listeners across the nation and around
the globe. You can go to my

710
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:37,199
website Matt Connerton dot com for all
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711
00:54:37,199 --> 00:54:43,440
contact info, show archives, etcetera, etcetera. Today is Thursday May

712
00:54:43,599 --> 00:54:46,639
eleven, two thousand and twenty three. So nice to have you all with

713
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:50,119
me if you'd like to join us
today on the program. Six zo three

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00:54:50,199 --> 00:54:53,159
two five O six zero seven is
the studio line six ZO three two five

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zero six zoo seven. You can
also text me at six one seven nine

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one seven four four seven six.
On social media at Matt Connerton, you

717
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:06,599
can email me Matt at Matt Connerton
dot com and of course you can interact

718
00:55:06,679 --> 00:55:09,159
endo Pine in the Facebook live chat
and we will say hello to everybody in

719
00:55:09,159 --> 00:55:12,360
there in just a moment. But
the best thing to do so that we

720
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,400
can hear and enjoy your dulcet tones
is to give us a call at six

721
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:21,079
O three two five six z seven
six ZO three two five six seven.

722
00:55:21,519 --> 00:55:23,840
The band, by the way that
we played that is The Stone Road Band.

723
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:30,199
That is a live version of their
song Brutus from the album Alive at

724
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:34,159
Dusk, a live album they recorded, or it might be an EP.

725
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,679
I'm not sure, but Kevin Horn
from the band The Stone Road Band is

726
00:55:37,679 --> 00:55:42,599
going to be performing at the Hop
Knot on Saturday night from seven to nine

727
00:55:42,639 --> 00:55:46,280
pm doing the solo thing, so
check him out, and he's going to

728
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:52,039
be coming on the show as a
guest pretty soon. I believe also too.

729
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,079
Today is Thursday, which means tonight
at the Hop Knot is Trivia Night

730
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:59,840
now hosted by Broderick Lange, beginning
at seven pm. So make sure you

731
00:56:00,039 --> 00:56:05,480
call ahead to reserve your spot because
those spots do fill up quickly. I

732
00:56:05,519 --> 00:56:07,880
do want to say hello to everybody
on the Facebook live chat, and then

733
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:14,679
we'll get into some some other things
here. It's constantly spinning a news cycle,

734
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:19,920
that's for sure. That never changes
though. Really. Melanie law Liberty

735
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,360
from the Great State of Vermont is
in the chat room, as well as

736
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,679
Jay fed Ronda Favero from the Great
State of California joins us and says,

737
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:29,880
how do you guys. Jenny of
course is in the chat and says shalom

738
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:34,719
peeps. Eric Street also in the
chat room, as well as Chris Rose

739
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:42,880
from the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. Melanie
is asking, because I mentioned Peter White

740
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:46,039
earlier, that he's not only the
morning man here at w MNH, he's

741
00:56:46,039 --> 00:56:50,960
also the program director. Melanie asks, is he a mean program director?

742
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,880
Like does he yell at you a
lot? Actually? No, Peter is

743
00:56:54,920 --> 00:57:00,480
wonderful. Everyone is wonderful here.
And I'm not just saying that because there's

744
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:07,000
somebody standing off camera with some sort
of weapon. No, No, in

745
00:57:07,039 --> 00:57:10,400
all seriousness, they do not.
There's no yelling, and everyone's great,

746
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:15,360
and I'm giving tremendous autonomy with this
show, which I appreciate. I do

747
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:19,719
not take it for granted, believe
me, because in radio there are a

748
00:57:19,719 --> 00:57:24,800
lot of mean people in management.
But no, we're very fortunate here.

749
00:57:25,119 --> 00:57:30,000
Everyone's pretty chill. Melanie says,
you can tell us, we won't say

750
00:57:30,039 --> 00:57:37,039
anything. Let's see. Oj Fed
says, congratulations, Matt, referring to

751
00:57:37,039 --> 00:57:40,679
what I was discussing in the first
hour. If you missed it, of

752
00:57:40,719 --> 00:57:44,639
course, it'll be in the archive. Tony Petrello, of course. In

753
00:57:44,679 --> 00:57:49,679
the chat room, let's see,
Miriam Banish says in the chat we're talking

754
00:57:49,719 --> 00:57:53,320
a little bit about hypnotherapy earlier.
Miriam says Matt is a really good hypnotherapist.

755
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:57,480
Thank you, Miriam. I do
think I'm pretty good at what I

756
00:57:57,519 --> 00:58:08,840
do. I try do my best. Let's see, Melanie's gonna start the

757
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:14,320
paperwork to get the ball rolling.
I think, to get it all rolling.

758
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:19,719
I think Vermont is going to absorb
New Hampshire into Vermont. Oh,

759
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,400
Jenny points out in the chat room, I will be seeing your senator next

760
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:25,840
week in DC. It's his town
hall. I am going to be on

761
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:30,199
the panel for yes the sixteenth,
Tuesday of next week, Jenny will be

762
00:58:30,199 --> 00:58:35,920
in Washington, d C. With
a Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont, speaking

763
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:40,800
on that panel about healthcare. Very
very excited about that, and assuming she's

764
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:44,519
with me here on Monday, she'll
she'll talk all about it. But yeah,

765
00:58:44,519 --> 00:58:50,719
it's a it's a great opportunity,
and very proud of her. Let's

766
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,079
see, I want to make sure
you don't miss it. Oh, W

767
00:58:53,679 --> 00:59:00,440
Subaru or W equals Subaru is in
the Facebook live Chatt and says hello,

768
00:59:00,559 --> 00:59:04,599
hashtag Matt. We say to you
from us. We say good to see

769
00:59:04,639 --> 00:59:08,400
you. Hashtag Matt Connerton. Hello, hashtag gen coffee. We say good

770
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:14,400
afternoon. We say to you hashtag
Jen, hashtag Matt Connerton. We say

771
00:59:14,519 --> 00:59:22,079
happened to you yesterday afternoon? Uh, we say hashtag Matt Connerton, you

772
00:59:22,199 --> 00:59:27,440
have a wonderful haircut. Well,
thank you, thank you. W equal

773
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:31,719
Suberu who I cannot prove this,
but I have a strong suspicion. Hailes

774
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:39,119
from Greensboro, North Carolina. I
can't be certain, but I strongly suspect

775
00:59:39,199 --> 00:59:44,159
that that is so six three two
five six seven is the number six O

776
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:47,800
three two five six seven. Um, I do want to Uh well,

777
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:52,800
we'll try to get to it,
of course, because it happened right here

778
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:57,119
in the Queen City, Manchester,
New Hampshire. Trump was here yesterday at

779
00:59:57,119 --> 01:00:06,599
Saint Anselm College for the down Hall
on CNN. UM. But before we

780
01:00:06,679 --> 01:00:09,840
do that, and you know,
I wanted to talk about this yesterday with

781
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:13,760
our friend Eric Pilcher, and then
I ended up not coming in yesterday.

782
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:16,159
UM. And I explained it earlier
in the show if you missed it,

783
01:00:16,199 --> 01:00:19,920
But why I wasn't here, And
again I do apologize to everybody for not

784
01:00:20,039 --> 01:00:24,719
being able to be here yesterday.
But uh oh w equals suber Wu says,

785
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:28,880
wow, looks great. We say
to you hashtag Matt, well thank

786
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:32,079
you. Um. But uh you
know, because Eric is going to be

787
01:00:32,159 --> 01:00:37,239
joining us in the first hour every
Wednesday that I'm here to talk about media.

788
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:45,400
But there is uh more and more. Tucker Carlson News Michael Albert says

789
01:00:45,559 --> 01:00:49,920
in the chat, amazing difference from
the last time Trump visited. You could

790
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:53,679
barely notice. Um. Well,
well, we'll get to that. But

791
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:59,760
h Tucker Carlson uh making moves.
Allegedly he's going to have a show on

792
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:04,119
Twitter, although Elon Musk initially denied
it. I'm confused about that. But

793
01:01:04,199 --> 01:01:08,280
he's also apparently Tucker is planning some
sort of war against Fox. Maybe he's

794
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:14,239
going to team up with Trump.
But this is from Axios. It says

795
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:20,599
scoop Tucker Carlson accuses Fox of fraud
and contract breach. Says here Tucker Carlson,

796
01:01:20,599 --> 01:01:22,039
two weeks after being ousted by Fox. It's only been two weeks,

797
01:01:22,039 --> 01:01:29,519
it seems longer. Accused the network
Tuesday of fraud and breach of contract and

798
01:01:29,679 --> 01:01:36,239
made a host of document demands that
could proceed legal action. The aggressive letter

799
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:40,320
from his lawyers to Fox positions Carlson
to argue that the non compete provision in

800
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:45,239
his contract is no longer valid,
freeing him to launch his own competitive show

801
01:01:46,039 --> 01:01:51,519
or media enterprise, or competing show
or media enterprise. I should say,

802
01:01:51,679 --> 01:01:57,679
now that's interesting because I remember reading
earlier that he would not be able to

803
01:01:57,719 --> 01:02:01,960
just go and suddenly start his own
show. When news began to circulate that

804
01:02:02,119 --> 01:02:05,719
he was going to have a show
on Twitter, which I didn't know Twitter

805
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:13,679
was offering programming now, but apparently
there's something there I guess, or maybe

806
01:02:13,679 --> 01:02:15,760
that's something new that they're building in. But I mean, they used to

807
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:20,679
have the periscope app, which you
could used to do shows on Twitter.

808
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:22,480
I know, I know somebody who
used to do a fake radio show from

809
01:02:22,519 --> 01:02:29,320
New York City on Twitter using Periscope. But but we don't talk about that.

810
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:37,159
But there had been news that there
was a non compete clause, which

811
01:02:37,199 --> 01:02:40,000
is a standard thing in media,
you know, so because obviously if Fox

812
01:02:40,159 --> 01:02:44,199
was getting rid of him, they
didn't want him to just be able to

813
01:02:44,239 --> 01:02:50,199
go and just start a new show. And there's usually no compete clauses built

814
01:02:50,239 --> 01:02:52,880
into the or non compete I should
say, to be precise, non compete

815
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:57,079
clauses built into these contracts, so
if something happens, you don't just get

816
01:02:57,079 --> 01:03:00,199
to go and start your own show
and directly compete with the people who just

817
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:01,800
fired you. You know, they
want to avoid that, so that's usually

818
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:07,559
included. So I was very surprised
when it was being announced. When he

819
01:03:07,599 --> 01:03:09,599
announced, I should say, Tucker
Carlson himself announced that he would be bringing

820
01:03:09,639 --> 01:03:13,360
his show to Twitter. I was
like, already, how does that happen,

821
01:03:14,199 --> 01:03:19,639
so apparently, as lawyers are arguing
that the non complete clause is no

822
01:03:19,679 --> 01:03:25,760
longer valid now, he said in
the video. Tucker Carlson said in the

823
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:30,320
video that he posted quote starting soon, we'll be bringing a new version of

824
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:35,039
the show we've been doing for the
last six and a half years to Twitter.

825
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:39,000
We bring some other things too,
which will tell you about, but

826
01:03:39,039 --> 01:03:43,079
for now, we're just grateful to
be here. Free speech is the main

827
01:03:43,519 --> 01:03:46,079
right thing you have. I'm sorry. Free speech is the main right that

828
01:03:46,159 --> 01:03:52,480
you have. Without it, you
have no others. Unquote. The Twitter

829
01:03:52,559 --> 01:03:58,159
move would seem to technically violate Carlson's
contract with Fox, but as lawyer's letter

830
01:03:58,239 --> 01:04:02,639
effectively holds that Fox breached the contract
first. By the way, something that

831
01:04:02,719 --> 01:04:13,400
I would immediately wonder about is how
is that non compete written? And and

832
01:04:13,639 --> 01:04:20,639
I guess if his lawyers are arguing
that the noncomplete is noncomplete nonphonics, Matt,

833
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:29,079
that the non compete is invalid because
Fox breached the contract first, does

834
01:04:29,119 --> 01:04:32,800
that automatically invalidate the whole contract for
one thing? That would be a question.

835
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:36,760
I'm not sure that's going to hold
up. But I'm not a legal

836
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:41,360
expert or a legal scholar of any
kind. So I don't know. I'm

837
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:44,400
in over my head. I'm just
spitballing here. But the other thing that

838
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:47,920
I would wonder about is the way
the non compete is written. Does it

839
01:04:48,039 --> 01:04:54,119
specifically say that he can't go on
a streaming platform or a social media platform

840
01:04:54,159 --> 01:04:59,400
in this case like Twitter and have
a show or is a contract written in

841
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:01,559
a way where it's seems to say
And again, if it's all invalid,

842
01:05:01,639 --> 01:05:05,599
then this question is mood. But
is the contract written in a way where

843
01:05:05,679 --> 01:05:10,599
it expresses that he cannot go and
you know, go have a show on

844
01:05:10,679 --> 01:05:16,119
some other cable network like CNN.
Does it actually address anything about streaming or

845
01:05:16,159 --> 01:05:20,599
about social media. It may not, it may not. You know,

846
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:26,239
streaming has changed everything, and not
everyone believed. You know, hey,

847
01:05:26,519 --> 01:05:30,960
way back in the day when Netflix
said, for example, we're going to

848
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:35,559
we're going to begin to do away
with this whole thing where we send you

849
01:05:35,599 --> 01:05:40,840
a DVD and then you send it
back when because that's how some people might

850
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:45,320
not remember, especially you young UN's
out there, that's how Netflix actually started.

851
01:05:45,519 --> 01:05:49,360
Netflix didn't start as a streaming platform. Netflix started as a service where

852
01:05:50,199 --> 01:05:54,679
you go online and you order what
you want to watch, and then they

853
01:05:54,719 --> 01:05:57,920
ship you the DVD and then when
you're done with it, you ship it

854
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:00,840
back and then you can get something
out ship to you. That's how Netflix

855
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:05,519
originally started, and then it became
the streaming service at it is today.

856
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:12,119
This whole writer's strike that's going on
right now, WGA going on strike.

857
01:06:13,559 --> 01:06:16,000
A lot of that is being driven
by these writers who are saying, wait

858
01:06:16,039 --> 01:06:19,440
a minute, is streaming has changed
everything? You know, we used to

859
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:26,280
get hired to write on a television
series, which would be twenty two episodes

860
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:29,679
a season, so we knew we
were going to be writing for those twenty

861
01:06:29,679 --> 01:06:33,440
two episodes. Now you've got these
shows that are streaming on platforms like Netflix

862
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:38,159
and Hulu. Some of them are
only ten episodes or twelve episodes, or

863
01:06:38,199 --> 01:06:43,960
eight episodes or five episodes. So
everything's changing and it's become you know,

864
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:48,440
they're saying, it's it's it's you've
you've turned writing for television into something that's

865
01:06:49,079 --> 01:06:57,639
a gig economy within that industry because
things aren't long term like they used to

866
01:06:57,719 --> 01:07:00,440
be. Now you might be writing
for what is called a quote unquote series,

867
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:05,440
but it's really only five episodes that
are streaming on Netflix, so it's

868
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:10,000
not long term, so we need
to change all of this. So I

869
01:07:10,119 --> 01:07:15,480
just wonder because the industry, in
terms of how the contracts are structured,

870
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:20,360
has been slow to react to technology, which is what always happens, right

871
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:27,480
technology, The law in anything,
whether it be contracts or government regulations or

872
01:07:27,519 --> 01:07:31,039
whatever, it never keeps up with
technology. Technology is always out in front,

873
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:36,400
and you know, maybe that'll never
change. Maybe that's just a natural

874
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:41,639
course of things because you don't necessarily
know where technology is going to go,

875
01:07:41,719 --> 01:07:44,599
and sometimes we make predictions of it
about it and we turn out to be

876
01:07:44,599 --> 01:07:48,559
wrong. But I just wonder.
I would be very curious. What does

877
01:07:48,679 --> 01:07:54,119
his contract actually say in terms of
the noncompete. Does it say he can't

878
01:07:54,119 --> 01:08:00,480
do a show anywhere under any circumstances
for x amount of time until his contract

879
01:08:00,519 --> 01:08:05,920
would be up. Is that what
it actually says? Does it mean,

880
01:08:06,679 --> 01:08:11,480
however it's written, he can't do
a He can't even do a YouTube stream

881
01:08:11,719 --> 01:08:15,760
if he wanted to. Again,
these are questions because of technology, and

882
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:19,279
there's so many people streaming now.
I mean, there are there are people

883
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:26,640
streaming who used to work for big
media companies who you know, they get

884
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:29,920
fired or their contract runs out and
they don't like the numbers or whatever,

885
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:31,720
and they just say, well,
screw it. I'll just start my own

886
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:39,439
YouTube channel and I'll get a gazillion
subscribers because I'm already famous or or at

887
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:45,359
least have a really strong fan base, and I'll be able to monetize that

888
01:08:45,399 --> 01:08:49,520
way and make tons of money.
And um, you know, you've got

889
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:58,399
so many options now. So I
wonder does his contract take any of that

890
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:02,600
into account in terms of the non
pete so, but his lawyers are arguing

891
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:11,520
that it's all irrelevant because it's already
been breached by Fox, so it says

892
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:16,079
here. Sources told Axios that Carlson's
lawyers sent their letter before he took to

893
01:09:16,199 --> 01:09:23,760
Twitter to announce his new show.
Axios reported Sunday that Carlson, frustrated with

894
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:29,199
being held to his contract, is
preparing to unleash allies to pressure the network

895
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:35,359
into letting him work for or start
a right wing rival. So that's the

896
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:39,880
thing. If you clear that one
hurdle or go through that one barrier,

897
01:09:41,359 --> 01:09:45,840
he doesn't, Tucker Carlson does not
in the position that he's in again because

898
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:48,359
of streaming and the way the technology
has advanced, he doesn't have to spend

899
01:09:48,359 --> 01:09:55,640
another day of his career on any
cable network. He could be on the

900
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:59,680
Daily Wire or The Blaze, which
both strictly stream online. You know,

901
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:05,560
there's many other places where he could
go and possibly have an even larger audience.

902
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:10,600
You already had the largest audience in
all of cable news, but some

903
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:15,479
of these audiences online that people are
getting actually are bigger. This is something

904
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:19,359
people don't realize too. You know, cable news they don't pull the necessarily

905
01:10:19,399 --> 01:10:24,000
the audience numbers that you might think
that they do. Some people who have

906
01:10:24,079 --> 01:10:28,640
gone from cable news to strictly online
are actually pulling bigger numbers online in terms

907
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:31,880
of audience. Of course, you
can actually measure it more easily online too,

908
01:10:32,079 --> 01:10:38,199
by monitoring web traffic where and view
counts and so forth. Whereas you

909
01:10:38,239 --> 01:10:44,680
know, in television, ratings aren't
always you know, there's not a system

910
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:49,159
that's necessarily going to be completely accurate, right, you have to take that

911
01:10:49,199 --> 01:10:54,199
into account. And within radio it's
even more. It's even sketchier as far

912
01:10:54,239 --> 01:11:02,840
as ratings measuring ratings, right,
or maybe that's just me wanting to think.

913
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:10,880
I don't know. It says here
Carlson's contract runs until January twenty twenty

914
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:14,840
five, and Fox wants to keep
paying him, which would prevent him from

915
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:19,520
starting a competing show. Oh that's
a good gig. Actually, January twenty

916
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:21,920
twenty five. That's only a year
and a half, and Fox is going

917
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:26,960
to keep paying him the whole time. You know, it might not.

918
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:30,760
This is the thing too, and
I'm sure he's thinking about this. Is

919
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:39,800
it better to after being ousted from
Fox, strike while the iron is hot,

920
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:45,119
start the new show right away somewhere
else, Or is it better to

921
01:11:45,239 --> 01:11:47,279
have that break, be gone for
a year and a half and come back

922
01:11:47,319 --> 01:11:53,560
fresh and people will be excited that
you're back? You know sometimes I mean,

923
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:56,600
you know, they say absence makes
the heart grow fonder, or you

924
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:59,399
know, how can we miss you
if you won't go away? You know,

925
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:00,760
So if you away for a year
and a half, maybe you come

926
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:05,319
back bigger than ever. Maybe maybe
not. I don't know, but I'm

927
01:12:05,359 --> 01:12:13,880
sure that's part of the calculation here, It says here Carlson already has gotten

928
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:18,720
eye popping offers from several right wing
outlets and has talked to Elon Musk about

929
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:23,359
working together now. According to Tucker, Carlson's announcement He's already got the show

930
01:12:23,359 --> 01:12:27,760
on Twitter. But Elon Musk then
publicly denied that is that because Elon Musk

931
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:31,239
is worried about getting sued by Fox. So Elon Musk is maybe they have

932
01:12:31,399 --> 01:12:34,760
made a deal, Maybe they've made
a hand handshake deal, but haven't put

933
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:43,079
pen to paper yet because because Carlson's
lawyers have to untangle this with Fox.

934
01:12:44,319 --> 01:12:46,760
But Tucker was excited when aheadn't announced
it. Now Elon's like, well,

935
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:51,479
I don't want to get sued by
Fox for a contract tampering, So maybe

936
01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:55,279
we hold off until we know you're
definitely in the clear and you're out of

937
01:12:55,279 --> 01:13:00,840
that deal. Maybe that would make
sense. It says here the less from

938
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:10,800
Carlson lawyer Brian Friedman to Fox officials
Vietnin and Irana Breganti. Irena Breganti,

939
01:13:12,039 --> 01:13:15,840
Rana what am I? What's wrong
with me? Irena Breganti said? Fox

940
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:24,960
employees said Fox employees, including Rupert
Murdoch himself, broke promises to Carlson quote

941
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:31,760
intentionally with reckless disregard for the truth
unquote. The lawyers accuse Fox executive executives,

942
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:35,159
which two sources say are Din which
I'm probably not saying correctly, and

943
01:13:35,359 --> 01:13:45,720
Murdoch for making representations or promises to
Carlson that were intentionally broken, constituting fraud.

944
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:50,359
Notably, the letter alleges Fox broken
agreement with Carlson not to leak his

945
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:58,760
private communications to the media hoops,
and not to use Carlson's private messages quote

946
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:04,079
to take any adverse employment action against
him unquote maybe oops. We still don't

947
01:14:04,079 --> 01:14:10,119
know the exact reason he was fired. Multiple outlets have reported on Carlson's redacted

948
01:14:10,159 --> 01:14:15,399
communications from pre trial discovery documents,
and a suggested that they led to his

949
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:19,800
Austin I'm still skeptical about that.
By the way, I still think if

950
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:24,680
I were a betting man, I
would put my money on the Is it

951
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:31,600
Amy Grosberg? I would put my
money on that. In her pending litigation

952
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:39,079
against Fox for harassment, it says
here again this is from Axios. The

953
01:14:39,159 --> 01:14:44,520
letter also alleges foxbroke promises not to
settle with dominion voting systems quote in a

954
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:49,000
way which would indicate wrongdoing unquote on
the part of Carlson, and not to

955
01:14:49,039 --> 01:14:59,039
take any actions in a settlement that
would harm Carlson's reputation interest sting, so

956
01:14:59,079 --> 01:15:02,840
if I'm understanding that correctly. So, the letter that Tucker Carlson's lawyers sent

957
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:10,880
to Fox claims that Fox broke a
promise by settling with Dominion because it made

958
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:16,159
Tucker Carlson look bad because he was
a part of pushing that that narrative about

959
01:15:16,159 --> 01:15:27,199
the twenty twenty election. That's interesting
not to settle with them quote in a

960
01:15:27,279 --> 01:15:33,439
way which would indicate wrongdoing unquote on
the part of Carlson. That's fascinating to

961
01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:38,680
me. Carlson was told by a
member of the Fox board that he was

962
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:42,560
taken off the air as part of
the Dominion settlement. Two sources briefed on

963
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:46,680
a conversation told Axeos that's been another
big theory, of course, not only

964
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:50,279
about Amy Grossberg, but about the
settlement itself, that that had something to

965
01:15:50,279 --> 01:15:54,319
do with it. I still don't
think it was those text messages. I

966
01:15:54,319 --> 01:15:58,840
don't think it had anything to do
with that. Even calling a Fox News

967
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:03,520
executive the C word, which he
did in any other job, of course,

968
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:06,640
that would get you fired. You
don't get to do that in corporate

969
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:12,600
America or even in a small business. You don't get to say something like

970
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:15,479
that about an executive or the top
executive. Was it was it about the

971
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:21,079
CEO of the company or somebody close
to the top at least. But when

972
01:16:21,199 --> 01:16:27,000
you're the number one rated host in
all of cable news, that's the one

973
01:16:27,039 --> 01:16:30,039
time you probably can get away with
that, which is why I don't think

974
01:16:30,079 --> 01:16:33,439
that's what it was. I don't
think it helped them, but I don't

975
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:39,520
think that's what it was. It
says here again, this is from Axios.

976
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:44,800
According to a source familiar with Carlson's
position, his lawyers believe that the

977
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:49,880
misrepresentations alleged by Carlson amount to a
breach of contract because they created additional terms

978
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:55,720
of Carlson's employment that were then broken
by the company. These actions not only

979
01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:59,920
breached the covenant of good faith and
fair dealing in the agreement, but gave

980
01:17:00,159 --> 01:17:06,000
rise to claims for breach of contract
and intentional and negligent misrepresentation, the letter

981
01:17:06,079 --> 01:17:13,800
says. A Fox spokesperson said it
is categorically false that Carlson lost his job

982
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:16,319
as part of the Networks seven hundred
eighty seven and a half million dollars settlement

983
01:17:16,359 --> 01:17:21,279
with Dominion Voting Systems. Stephen Shackelford, an outside attorney, for Dominion told

984
01:17:21,359 --> 01:17:28,479
Axiosa's Dan Primac quote Dominion did not
insist on them firing Tucker Carlson as part

985
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:33,600
of the settlement unquote. Carlson is
also claiming that Breganti, Foxes longtime communications

986
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:40,000
in pr chief, attempted to quote
undermine, embarrass, and interfere unquote with

987
01:17:40,079 --> 01:17:45,640
Carlson's future business prospects, which he
maintains would constitute another breach of his employment

988
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:50,960
contract. The letter said, quote, make no mistake, we intend to

989
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:59,159
subpoena Miss Breganti's cell phone records and
related documents which evidence communications with her and

990
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:04,399
all me including but not limited to
The New York Times unquote. Carlson's lawyers

991
01:18:04,399 --> 01:18:09,479
added that because Carlson is considering litigation
against a network to resolve these disputes,

992
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:15,560
Fox News must take immediate steps quote
to preserve all existing documents and data unquote

993
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:21,399
relevant to Fox's relationship with Carlson,
including correspondence between top executives and several media

994
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:30,399
outlets. So there you go.
Um, this is uh. This story

995
01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:34,159
will not be over for a long
time. The saga of Tucker Carlson continuing

996
01:18:34,239 --> 01:18:47,039
on after his employment ends with with
Fox News. Um, this is offended.

997
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:51,119
Offended, well, maybe offended.
This is affected Rumble too, by

998
01:18:51,119 --> 01:18:55,960
the way, the U because a
lot of people thought he'd land at Rumble,

999
01:18:56,039 --> 01:19:00,520
like Stephen Crowder and Carlson going and
announcing the going to Twitter with his

1000
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:04,600
show means he's not going to Rumble. And apparently this has affected Rumble.

1001
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:11,479
We're not going to get into it
right now, but Bloomberg is reporting in

1002
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:16,079
their technology section Tucker Carlson's Twitter move
wipes two hundred and thirty five million dollars

1003
01:19:16,119 --> 01:19:24,279
from Rumble shares sank as much as
twelve percent yesterday. Rumble has kind of

1004
01:19:24,279 --> 01:19:33,960
emerged, of course, as a
right wing alternative to to YouTube. Let's

1005
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:39,119
see six zo three two five six
Z seven is a number if you'd like

1006
01:19:39,199 --> 01:19:43,439
to jump in six z three two
five six seven. All right, I

1007
01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:46,159
do want to get to a little
bit and we might continue this tomorrow.

1008
01:19:47,159 --> 01:19:50,399
Trump was here yesterday, not here
in studio, of course, but here

1009
01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:55,560
in the queen city of the Granite
State. And for those of you not

1010
01:19:55,640 --> 01:20:02,840
from here, that means Manchester,
New Hampshire. U oh wow. Debt

1011
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:06,720
default would increase housing payments by twenty
two percent, according to Willow. Okay,

1012
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:12,720
I mean Zillo all right, So
I did not see the whole I

1013
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:15,359
have not had a chance to see
the entire thing yet, most of it,

1014
01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:21,079
but not all of it. Something
that alarmed me about Trump's town hall,

1015
01:20:21,119 --> 01:20:25,880
and by the way, I mean
the town hall. CNN is taking

1016
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:33,840
a lot of a lot of criticism
for various reasons over the town hall,

1017
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:41,640
and I haven't mentioned this, and
yesterday I ended up getting so busy I

1018
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:48,479
haven't even posted this picture yet on
social media, but there's a I have

1019
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:54,600
a picture of that I took yesterday. I was at a gas station and

1020
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:59,079
there was a truck. If you've
ever seen them, there's these trucks that

1021
01:20:59,159 --> 01:21:05,680
you can you can rent or lease
for your business where it's basically an electronic

1022
01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:10,479
billboard on the side of the trunk, side of the truck and on the

1023
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:15,560
back of the truck. And there's
this organization called Ultra Violet Action. And

1024
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:20,720
this truck was driving around Manchester and
it says it's got a picture of Trump's

1025
01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:25,920
face on it, and it says, WTF, CNN dump Trump, cancel

1026
01:21:26,039 --> 01:21:29,760
the town hall. And I took
a picture of it and also had a

1027
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:32,520
brief conversation with the driver of the
truck, and there may or may not

1028
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:40,319
be floating around right now somewhere online
a picture of me posing with the truck

1029
01:21:40,319 --> 01:21:43,439
and a big smile on my face
and two thumbs up. Now having said

1030
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:45,840
that, in case you happen to
come across that picture, I did not.

1031
01:21:46,079 --> 01:21:49,520
I do want to make this clear. I did not have any problem

1032
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:56,680
with CNN doing this. Again.
I did pose with the truck and take

1033
01:21:56,680 --> 01:22:00,199
a picture of the truck, and
I did talk to the drive ever,

1034
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:05,880
but I thought it was funny.
But that doesn't mean I necessarily agreed with

1035
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:10,520
the sentiment that CNN should not do
this. Some people felt that CNN should

1036
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:13,079
not do this. I disagree.
I have no problem with it. Now,

1037
01:22:13,359 --> 01:22:16,439
if you're a long time listener,
you know my feelings about the former

1038
01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:21,720
president. Not a fan, but
I thought it was perfectly appropriate for CNN

1039
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:25,800
to do a town hall with him. He's the as I like to refer

1040
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:30,720
to him, the presumptive presumptive nominee
for the Republican nomination for twenty twenty four.

1041
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:33,640
I do believe he'll be the nominee. He's the Republican front runner.

1042
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:41,359
Why wouldn't you do a town hall
with him? Having said that, what

1043
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:43,640
I did see, and again I
saw most of it, not all of

1044
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:45,840
it. I need to go back
and watch. The whole thing. Had

1045
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:51,199
a lot going on, but it
seemed to be a sort of a version

1046
01:22:51,399 --> 01:22:57,840
of the speech that he gives when
he's at a podium, but just but

1047
01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:04,800
with a journalist interrupting and asking questions. But it was it was basically all

1048
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:11,600
the same stuff that he says when
he gives a speech. One thing specific

1049
01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:16,600
that I found particularly well, two
things that really jumped out at me,

1050
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:25,359
well maybe three. Well, first
thing, so we've been talking about it

1051
01:23:25,399 --> 01:23:29,399
on the show quite a bit over
the years. We've talked about it a

1052
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:31,439
lot, but especially recently because it's
a front burner issue. You know,

1053
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:35,159
that asteroid is coming. That's coming, and if you're just joining us,

1054
01:23:35,199 --> 01:23:38,880
don't freak out. I don't mean
there's literally an asteroid coming up. It's

1055
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:42,159
a metaphor. But the debt limit, you know, will be defaulting in

1056
01:23:42,239 --> 01:23:54,880
June most likely and thus wrecking the
American economy. And so apparently Trump is

1057
01:23:54,920 --> 01:24:01,479
in favor of that and bummed me
out, especially because while I don't have

1058
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:06,359
a lot of nice things to say
about him generally, one thing, one

1059
01:24:06,399 --> 01:24:11,439
of the things that I have always
given him credit for is that when he

1060
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:15,439
was president, he had the correct
position on the debt ceiling, and I

1061
01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:23,000
appreciated that. His position was that
under no circumstances, not only could the

1062
01:24:23,079 --> 01:24:28,640
United States never be allowed to default
on our debt, but that it should

1063
01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:31,960
not even be used as a negotiating
wedge. He's on record saying that he

1064
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:35,359
said, it's reckless and stupid.
It's too dangerous, and we can't do

1065
01:24:35,399 --> 01:24:40,239
that, and we can't risk default, and we're not even going to use

1066
01:24:40,279 --> 01:24:45,960
it to negotiate. That was his
position. His position was absolutely correct.

1067
01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:53,399
Well, apparently that's no longer his
position. He said during the town hall

1068
01:24:55,439 --> 01:25:00,920
that you know, he said he
didn't necessarily think there would be a default.

1069
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:05,720
He said the Democrats will cave,
but he but he said he was

1070
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:10,399
fine with default, and he said
he actually said, we might as well

1071
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:14,960
default because it's going to happen eventually
anyway, so might as well get it

1072
01:25:15,039 --> 01:25:18,479
over with, and you know,
we'll have a we might have a bad

1073
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:21,720
day or a bad week economically as
a result, but it probably won't be

1074
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:27,520
any big deal. That was his
whole spin. So he's completely done.

1075
01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:30,119
A one eighty in his position on
the debt limit, he now seems to

1076
01:25:30,119 --> 01:25:34,880
be pro default. Listening to him
say that, it reminded me of years

1077
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:40,279
ago when I was a co host
on Rock Paper hand Grenades with the honorable

1078
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:45,239
garyus Hopper, God Rest his soul, and you know, and and the

1079
01:25:45,279 --> 01:25:49,600
debt limit would be in the news, and we'd have these crazy guests on

1080
01:25:50,079 --> 01:25:54,680
who would say the very things that
Trump was saying. Well, yeah,

1081
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:57,119
they'd come on and they say,
well, yeah, of course we should

1082
01:25:57,159 --> 01:26:00,479
default. Why should we Why why
would you want to keep spend money?

1083
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:05,000
We should default. Better to do
it now than do it later. So

1084
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:13,720
my belief is if you support default, then you support effectively American and potentially

1085
01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:19,359
global economic armageddon. This thing he
was saying about, well, you know,

1086
01:26:19,439 --> 01:26:23,039
we might have a bad day or
a bad week, but it won't

1087
01:26:23,039 --> 01:26:30,880
be a big deal. That is
insane. And if you support that,

1088
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:35,600
if you agree with that, no
offense, but you are insane. You

1089
01:26:35,640 --> 01:26:43,680
are absolutely out of your mind.
So that was disappointing. Yeah, he's

1090
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:47,239
he's he supports default. He thinks
we should default on our debt. By

1091
01:26:47,279 --> 01:26:51,159
the way, as a consequence of
that, if you are someone who collects

1092
01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:59,319
Social Security forget about worrying about Social
Security reform or having your Social Security cut.

1093
01:27:00,039 --> 01:27:06,880
Social Security will end, social Security
payments will not go out. If

1094
01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:11,600
you support our nation's military, our
brave men and women who serve in the

1095
01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:15,439
United States Military, and you support
default, well guess what. You don't

1096
01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:19,000
actually support the military because you don't
support them getting paid. It's bad enough

1097
01:27:19,039 --> 01:27:24,079
we have people serving in the United
States Military who aren't paid enough, as

1098
01:27:24,119 --> 01:27:27,119
it is, not even paid a
living wage, and have to go on

1099
01:27:27,159 --> 01:27:31,119
public assistance to feed themselves and feed
their families because we don't pay them enough.

1100
01:27:32,279 --> 01:27:39,039
Once we default, we won't be
paying them anything. Just a couple

1101
01:27:39,079 --> 01:27:45,359
of quick examples. So default will
be disastrous. It will be catastrophic.

1102
01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:58,439
And this is absolutely a disqualifier that
he takes that position. And I was

1103
01:27:59,279 --> 01:28:03,840
actually either shocked the other things,
I wasn't shocked. I mean, he

1104
01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:08,119
said a lot of things that I
would take on rich with, of course,

1105
01:28:08,199 --> 01:28:12,720
but that genuinely shocked me. It
really did. I mean I thought

1106
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:16,680
he might try to. I thought
his position might have changed from when he

1107
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:21,119
was president, like he might say
he might kind of soft pedal it by

1108
01:28:21,159 --> 01:28:28,640
saying, well, you know,
I've always opposed default. But but I

1109
01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:32,079
understand why, uh, Speaker McCarthy
is using this. You know, we

1110
01:28:32,119 --> 01:28:36,760
have to cut spending and and uh, you know, perhaps it is appropriate,

1111
01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:42,159
after all to use it as a
negotiating wedge maybe something like that.

1112
01:28:42,399 --> 01:28:45,079
But no, that's not what he
said. That's not what he said.

1113
01:28:45,479 --> 01:28:47,680
He said, might as well default. We're gonna have default eventually anyway,

1114
01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:53,840
might as well do it now.
Just do it so so just so you

1115
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:58,680
know, if you're if you're currently
on Social Security, that will if we

1116
01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:03,399
do what Trump wants, and if
we do what our elected law givers and

1117
01:29:03,520 --> 01:29:09,359
overlords seem to have planned for us, social Security as we know it is

1118
01:29:09,399 --> 01:29:14,159
about to end. Anybody, by
the way, who thinks I'm being hyperbolic

1119
01:29:14,239 --> 01:29:17,079
about that or I'm being dramatic,
I'm not. I'm not. If we

1120
01:29:17,159 --> 01:29:21,439
default, it's over. Social Security
is over. The military's over. They

1121
01:29:21,439 --> 01:29:27,560
won't be getting paid anymore. And
and a lot of other things about the

1122
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:33,119
American economy are going to change in
ways that will likely be far more severe

1123
01:29:33,399 --> 01:29:39,760
than even the Great Recession, the
economic crisis of two thousand and eight.

1124
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:45,880
It's going to be absolutely brutal.
If you don't believe me, look up

1125
01:29:46,319 --> 01:29:51,039
what economists are saying. See,
you know, we call it economic theory

1126
01:29:51,479 --> 01:29:55,920
because there are many different kinds of
economic theories, right, you know,

1127
01:29:56,079 --> 01:30:00,359
like you've got Keynesie and economists who
tend to be more on the left,

1128
01:30:00,399 --> 01:30:05,079
and you've got supply side economists who
tend to be more on the right and

1129
01:30:05,159 --> 01:30:11,039
support those kinds of policies. Right, you know, you've got libertarians they

1130
01:30:11,079 --> 01:30:17,319
like Austrian economics. But generally across
the board, though, you will be

1131
01:30:17,399 --> 01:30:26,520
hard pressed to find an economist of
any stripe, of any economic philosophy or

1132
01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:32,000
belief system who will tell you that
the United States actually defaulting on our debt

1133
01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:39,520
for the first time in history will
be a good thing. And you will

1134
01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:45,960
be also hard pressed to find an
economist anywhere who will tell you that it

1135
01:30:45,039 --> 01:30:49,199
will not be catastrophic and that it
will all just be fine, and that

1136
01:30:49,319 --> 01:30:54,439
maybe we'll have a bad day or
maybe a bad week, but no big

1137
01:30:54,479 --> 01:30:57,760
deal, and it's going to happen
anyway. Let's just do it now,

1138
01:30:57,840 --> 01:31:03,880
screw it. If you can find
me an economist who will say that,

1139
01:31:04,039 --> 01:31:14,159
I will be shocked, But uh
I was. I was genuinely stunned.

1140
01:31:15,640 --> 01:31:19,279
Like he didn't even say, yeah, I think maybe it is appropriate to

1141
01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:25,600
use this as a negotiating tactic.
No, he didn't even say that.

1142
01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:28,439
He just said, yeah, you
know, we should. Uh, you

1143
01:31:28,439 --> 01:31:29,960
know, he said, I don't
know if it'll happen. I think the

1144
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:33,000
Democrats will cave, but yeah,
we should, we probably should default.

1145
01:31:33,039 --> 01:31:38,239
He literally said that. Anyone who
didn't hear it, who's maybe you're maybe

1146
01:31:38,239 --> 01:31:41,239
you're a Trump supporter and and you
just hear me saying this, and you

1147
01:31:41,279 --> 01:31:44,359
go, no, Trump, Trump
couldn't possibly have said that. I'm telling

1148
01:31:44,399 --> 01:31:48,560
you, I'm not exaggerating. I'm
not being hyperbolic. H I'm not.

1149
01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:51,840
I'm not you know, I don't
have trumped arrangement syndrome. No, this

1150
01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:56,960
is his position. Now, this
is his position that we should actually default

1151
01:31:57,000 --> 01:32:04,520
on our debt. So it's a
fact. So that was shocking and disappointing.

1152
01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:12,680
Um. Also, he uh doubled
down Perhaps at this point you could

1153
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:15,960
say he tripled down on his desire
to, uh, if he is elected

1154
01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:25,039
president again, to begin pardoning the
January sixth rioters or I consider them insurrectionists

1155
01:32:25,079 --> 01:32:30,680
and domestic terrorists, those who overran
the Capitol. But no, he wants

1156
01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:34,159
to part and he didn't say he
would necessarily part in every single one of

1157
01:32:34,239 --> 01:32:36,680
them, one of them because how
did he put it, there might have

1158
01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:43,960
been a couple who got a little
out of control or something, but which

1159
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:46,840
I'm sure is uh, I'm sure
those words will be great comfort to uh,

1160
01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:51,560
you know, to everyone in the
Capitol Police force who had to had

1161
01:32:51,560 --> 01:32:54,600
to deal with that that day.
Yeah, you know, a couple of

1162
01:32:54,600 --> 01:32:57,199
them got out of control, yes, you know, but for the most

1163
01:32:57,199 --> 01:32:59,960
part, yeah, I go,
just pardon him. What did they really

1164
01:33:00,039 --> 01:33:04,199
do wrong? Right? So that
was that was disappointing. I mean that

1165
01:33:04,199 --> 01:33:11,800
that did not surprise me. Um. And uh you know, and of

1166
01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:17,880
course Egene Carol stuff, no,
no grace whatsoever there. Um, he

1167
01:33:18,039 --> 01:33:24,840
just insulted her. And listen,
I I get that's what some people like

1168
01:33:24,880 --> 01:33:30,680
about him. They like that he
insults people. And you know that's uh

1169
01:33:30,720 --> 01:33:38,479
so, I mean he certainly you
know all that all that stuff. Um

1170
01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:41,880
yeah, again it helps him as
far as winning the nomination, But I

1171
01:33:42,039 --> 01:33:45,359
don't think it's going to help him
in the general election. Um. But

1172
01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:47,840
uh, but it but it'll help
him, it'll help him to win the

1173
01:33:47,880 --> 01:33:50,760
nomination. I mean I think he's
I think, like I say, I

1174
01:33:50,760 --> 01:33:55,880
think he's already sealed it up.
We haven't even had our first debate yet.

1175
01:33:56,000 --> 01:34:00,359
Oh, apparently he's not participating in
the debate. So I believe now

1176
01:34:00,920 --> 01:34:02,960
there's a lot of criticism being leveled
at CNN for even doing this, for

1177
01:34:03,039 --> 01:34:12,439
even having this event media it says. CNN's Oliver Darcy reports CEO Chris Licht

1178
01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:17,319
and network are facing fury of criticism
within the company after Trump town hall.

1179
01:34:17,359 --> 01:34:21,640
So this isn't even only externally,
this is coming but from within CNN,

1180
01:34:23,159 --> 01:34:31,840
which I find very interesting. CNN
senior media reporter Oliver Darcy revealed yesterday evening

1181
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:39,520
that CNN was quote facing a fury
of criticism unquote within the company following its

1182
01:34:39,560 --> 01:34:45,680
controversial town hall with former President Donald
Trump. Darcy wrote in CNN's Reliable Sources

1183
01:34:45,720 --> 01:34:48,520
newsletter, quote, it's hard to
see how America was served by the spectacle

1184
01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:54,800
of lies that aired on CNN Wednesday
evening unquote. While he praised the tough

1185
01:34:54,880 --> 01:34:59,760
and quote tough and knowledgeable unquote CNN
host Caitlin Collins for her attempts at fact

1186
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:04,520
ecking Trump's remarks, Darcy said Collins
was given an impossible task and put in

1187
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:11,479
an uncomfortable position, given that the
audience was comprised of Republicans who mostly applauded

1188
01:35:11,960 --> 01:35:15,640
the former president and laughed at his
comments. Oh yeah, like they thought

1189
01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:19,199
the Eegene Carol stuff, the things
he said about her, they thought that

1190
01:35:19,279 --> 01:35:25,079
was hilarious. They ate it up, you know, when he's sitting there

1191
01:35:25,079 --> 01:35:27,960
insulting his accuser. But but again, of course, you know, that's

1192
01:35:28,039 --> 01:35:32,239
that's what some people like about him. They like his crudeness and his lack

1193
01:35:32,279 --> 01:35:39,279
of grace makes him a man of
the people. Scott Robinson says in the

1194
01:35:39,319 --> 01:35:43,479
chat room, I remember when Bernie
had his town hall on Fox, and

1195
01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:47,159
all the Fox people are all up
in arms about that too. Yep,

1196
01:35:47,239 --> 01:35:53,720
I remember that. I remember that. Darcy wrote, noting that Trump staffers

1197
01:35:53,720 --> 01:36:00,239
were reportedly delighted with the event quote
and CNN aired it all on and on

1198
01:36:00,359 --> 01:36:03,279
it went. It felt like twenty
sixteen all over again. It was Trump's

1199
01:36:03,399 --> 01:36:11,680
unhinged social media feed brought to life
on stage. Unquote. Darcy wrote that

1200
01:36:12,199 --> 01:36:17,119
quote, CNN and new network boss
Chris Licked are facing a fury of criticism

1201
01:36:17,119 --> 01:36:23,279
both internally and externally over the event. How Licked and the other CNN executives

1202
01:36:23,319 --> 01:36:27,119
address the criticism in the coming days
and weeks will be crucial. Will they

1203
01:36:27,199 --> 01:36:31,840
defend what transpired at Saint Annselm College
or will they express some regret For now

1204
01:36:32,199 --> 01:36:42,439
CNN is defending itself unquote, well, it is a no win situation.

1205
01:36:42,600 --> 01:36:47,159
But again, I don't see how
I will defend CNN on this for airing

1206
01:36:47,199 --> 01:36:55,359
the event. Um, what what
else? I mean, what else can

1207
01:36:55,399 --> 01:37:00,439
you do if you have an opportunity
to do something like this with the front

1208
01:37:00,520 --> 01:37:05,720
runner. He is the front runner
for the Republican nomination. And listen,

1209
01:37:05,840 --> 01:37:11,399
Caitlin Collins. Of course, the
way people react or it's all predictable.

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Some some people who are you know, some people on the right are critical

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of her, saying, oh,
she was trying to debate Trump and this

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and that. Caitlin Collins, I
think she did the best that she could.

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You know, she she was tough
and but she you know, here's

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the thing. You'll never hear me
complain about a journalist pushing back on what

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a candidate is saying, whether it's
Trump or anybody else. You know,

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even if it's somebody I happen to
like, I always say this. You

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want an aggressive media that's the media's
job, or at least it should be

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ideally, is to push back,
to fact check, to challenge what someone

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is saying. That that's part of
the deal. Now, most people will

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tell you that they'll agree with that, and they'll say, well, yeah,

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you're right, Matt. We of
course we want an aggressive media.

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Unfortunately, what most people mean when
they say that is we want an a

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media that's we want a media that's
aggressive with the people we don't like,

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but we also want a media that
is compliant and and docile and shows deference

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to people we do like. That's
what most people mean. I want to

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I want to have a media that's
aggressive with everybody, including Trump. And

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I thought Caitlin Collins did a good
job pushing back and fact checking. In

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a statement yesterday, a CNN spokesperson
praised Collins for her role in the town

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hall, saying, quote, tonight, Caitlyn Collins exemplified what it means to

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be a world class journalist. She
was tough, she asked tough, sorry,

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she asked tough, fair and revealing
questions, and she followed up in

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fact checked President Trump in real time
to arm voters with critical information about his

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positions as he enters the twenty twenty
four election as the Republican front runner.

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That a CNN's role and responsibility to
get answers and hold the powerful to account

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unquote. Yeah. See, that's
the thing, and that's why I think

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it was the right call to go
ahead with this event. If you don't

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do that, then you have no
opportunity to directly engage with the candidate and

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attempt to hold them accountable and to
fact check them in real time, it

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says here. However, many politicos, journalists and observers have criticized CNN for

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hosting Trump live on air and accused
the network of losing control over the interview.

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CNN's CNN anchor Jake Tapper, following
the town hall, said this quote,

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it was an interesting night. Mister
Trump's first lie was told just seconds

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into the night with his false familiar
I aim that the twenty twenty election was

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quote a rigged election. Uh,
and the falsehoods kept coming fast and furious

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01:40:06,880 --> 01:40:12,760
about the January sixth insurrection, about
the threat to Vice President Pence, about

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01:40:12,800 --> 01:40:15,359
Pence's ability to overturn the election,
about COVID, about the economy, and

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much more unquote, Trump concluded his
appearance in the town hall by praising Collins

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and regaling the audience for over a
minute. Quote, I like you guys.

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01:40:28,039 --> 01:40:31,279
We love New Hampshire unquote, he
said, as the audience stood in

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01:40:31,439 --> 01:40:39,920
applause. Yeah, yeah, he
did. He repeated the nonsense about the

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01:40:40,039 --> 01:40:45,920
vice president had the power to overturn
the election by sending it back to the

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01:40:45,960 --> 01:40:57,920
States. He's still repeating that.
Uh yeah, anyway. I mean,

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01:40:57,960 --> 01:41:00,560
it was, like I said,
it was a stump speech, but in

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01:41:00,600 --> 01:41:04,199
the form of it was his usual
stump speech, but in the form of

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having a journalist there. But what
else could you do? Like I said,

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you can't. I don't think it
would be the right call to ignore

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him and not let him on CNN. He is the front runner for the

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01:41:15,199 --> 01:41:20,159
nomination. But oh, we are
almost out of time. All right,

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here's what we're gonna do. I
think we'll play one more track from the

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Stone Road Band because or may Actually, maybe I can find a Kevin horn,

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01:41:28,800 --> 01:41:32,960
if I can find a quick solo
song of his, maybe I'll play

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01:41:33,239 --> 01:41:36,439
something from one of his solo albums. He's going to be performing live on

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Friday night, I'm sorry, Saturday
night, rather at the hop knot.

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01:41:42,079 --> 01:41:45,720
It is Thursday, which means tonight. Immediately following this program, we have

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01:41:45,800 --> 01:41:50,279
Through the Through the Stage Door hosted
by the Great, the Great Rob die

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01:41:50,279 --> 01:41:55,880
On and then don't forget to be
back tomorrow, bright and early, seven

1267
01:41:55,920 --> 01:42:00,800
am for the Morning Show with Peter
White. I texted Peter earlier about something

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01:42:00,840 --> 01:42:05,000
that came up on his show today
that I thought was that I thought was

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01:42:05,039 --> 01:42:10,720
really funny. Um, what's the
song Drift? If I played this before,

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01:42:11,239 --> 01:42:14,520
one of Kevin Horren's solo songs.
But if you miss any part of

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01:42:14,520 --> 01:42:17,159
today's show, it will be up
in just a little bit at WMNH Radio

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01:42:17,319 --> 01:42:24,159
dot org and at my website Matt
Connerton dot com. And tomorrow, of

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01:42:24,199 --> 01:42:28,560
course we'll be Friday, my long
day here at WMNH. Not only will

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01:42:28,600 --> 01:42:31,439
I be on this show, but
of course U retro Spectrum Radio with Paul

1275
01:42:31,640 --> 01:42:34,239
c. All Right, so we'll
leave you with this, h This is

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a little acoustic number. This is
Drift, performed by the Great Kevin Horren.

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And that'll do it for us for
now. I'll talk to y'all a

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little bit later. By everybody,
