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Good morning, How are you doing
today? Thanks so much for giving this,

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dude, we have been together for
so long, from Crystal Time to

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One True King, Beasts and Beauty, good and Evil. It's always always

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a gift to share a conversation with
you. Thanks you, Settlements. The

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power of writing is going into moving
pictures and that we must have talked about

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that a billion times, but to
see it physically happening now is like,

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this is amazing. What is it
like on your side of the writing instrument?

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And I think for me to have
something turned into a movie the first

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and foremost means that more people are
going to pick up the book, right,

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so that as an author, I
think that's the number one thing on

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before is is what's another way to
get leaders into the world, And especially

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in this day and age when everyone's
so distractive and there's so many million things

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going on, a movie seems like
a golden ticket to getting people familiar enough

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with the world where picking the book
doesn't seem so daunting, especially for you

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know, more young readers. So
I think the movie was that kind of

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gateway. And I felt so lucky
because the series has been out ten years,

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but now it's telling better than ever
because of that movie we'll see.

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I love it when adults find it
too, because it also leads them back

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to your books. Because to me, you know, the term a why

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a author is like, okay,
well no, I'm reaching adults too,

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So I mean, that's what I
love about the writing that you have.

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It's not so hya, it's for
everyone. I think that goes back to

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the original subject matter because if you
look at the original fairy tales that the

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Grimm's Brothers are, those work for
everybody, you know, whether you are

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a kid or a you know,
grandfather, they all shared the same stories.

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And I think I try to write
with later so that you know,

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if you're a young reader, you
get one version of the story, but

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if you're older, you're going to
get all the deeper symbolism and things like

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that. I mean, that's what
I loved about Harry Potter also, instead

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of worked for any age, and
so that was always kind of a guiding

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light for me, is could I
write a book that worked for adults as

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much as younger readers? And I
think you know, over the years now

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when I do events and things like
that, it's happen. Dots have kids,

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you know, sometimes the parents have
read it before the kids have,

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so I think what's made it and
it's why the movie I think worked for

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all ages and was really sort of
an all family movie. The book we're

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talking about is Fall of the School, Fall of the School for Good and

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Evil. All schoolmasters have got to
face a test. I like what your

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test is here, because it messes
with the imagination because we all go through

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this test. It's loyalty. But
is it corrupt? We know what loyalty

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is and we've all broken loyalty.
Yeah. I think for me, I

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love the idea of you having two
identical twins running the school, one that

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has sort of pure goods fall on
one that has pure evil soul. And

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these two brothers can only really run
the school if theirs balance between them,

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Otherwise they lose their immortality, they
lose their powers. And so the idea

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that you have two brothers who really
despise each other but need each other in

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order to run this school, it
sort of reminded me a lot of what

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happens in sibling relationship. Sometimes where
you can't live with your sibling, which

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you can't live without them. Sometimes
you want them gone. Sometimes you meet

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them there's kind of this constant back
and forth and tension and balance between siblings

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and a family. So to me, the book first and foremost is about

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family, and all the fantasy and
magic is there to support them support that

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story so many times, you know. I mean, as readers we like

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to skip ahead. You don't want
to skip ahead with your books, because

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what you do is that everything has
has a hook to it, like a

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song. And that's what's interesting about
the way that you put these paragraphs together,

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dude. I mean, I try
to make it so that it feels

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like it's you can only read it
in one sitting, that you can't move,

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that it just moves so quickly that
you're sort of sucked along with it,

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you know. And I think for
me, you have to have that

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buffle of pace and that many twists
and turns of things like that to keep

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up with all the other options for
screen entertainment, right because kids can pickome

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TikTok, adults can pickome TikTok and
just start scrolling and seeing fun videos.

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But it's that's so with a book, you can go deeper, but you

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have to have the same level of
entertainment. So it's always always a tough

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challenge, but I'm writing these days, I've never felt under more pressure it's

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the wrong word, but more challenge
to make sure that it's entertaining enough to

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pull the hole off. So now, how do you know in your heart

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when you're behind that that computer,
when it's going to be a shocking conclusion

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And does it come at you all
at once or do you have to build

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that conclusion. I think sometimes you
don't even know what the conclusion is going

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to be. You're you're sort of
swept up. Also, you know,

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sometimes you're surprised by it as much
as the reaper is going to be.

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And I think that's when you know
you have something really amazing because there's no

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telegraphing it. It happens on its
own. But other times you have a

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great ending in mind that you just
have to sort of build towards it and

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have trust that you're not going to
give it away while you're writing it.

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Although this is the conclusion of the
storyline, listeners need to understand that that

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doesn't mean that you're going away.
Because you're all about sharing adventures with your

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readers. You're not going silent on
us. No, I mean, I

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think this is the end of this
world, you know, this kind of

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fairy tale era for me, You've
done I've done ten ten books, is

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that right now? Yeah? Nine
books and then a handbooks, so ten

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books total in this fairy tale world
over the course of almost eleven years.

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So I'm going to move on to
something completely different, and I'll take my

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time making sure I get it right. But I would like to have a

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completely invention in different worlds. What
is that going to be like for you

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to go through those changes, because
I mean, I mean that's like,

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that's like Madonna reimagining herself, but
she continues to do it, and you've

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got to take newer steps and you've
got to create newer habits. I think

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it's that you have to have enough
about confidence in your own voice to know

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that it's okay to just go in
a different direction and explore it from part

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of yourself. You have to be
open to its feeling a little offward at

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first, um, But I think
it's it's about do you have other stories

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to tell other skins and have it
and not being afraid of what that's going

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to mean for your audience. You
know, your audience UM changes too,

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so you have to. You have
to give them a chance to six flour

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different parts of the world and of
yourself and of your writing with them.

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Is it still fun to write?
Oh? I love it. I think

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I'll never get I go more than
a couple of days without it. I'm

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starting to feel all. So I'm
so with you. I'm so with you

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on that because I call writing an
addiction. It's all part of the creative

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addiction that we have. And you've
got to feed that beast and allowed that

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inner, you know, that inner
like a movie screen, come to life

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on that page. Yeah. And
I think also you're constantly inspired by other

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things you're you're seeing and watching and
reading, and I think that just goes

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back into it. It brings out
that sort of fire within you to to

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you know, tell your own stories. That's so important that you say that,

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because you know so many writers will
tell me. They'll go, look,

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I'm an avid reader or I'm an
avid story well I viewer, and

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and that's that's where you pull your
energy from in order to you know,

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like you said, create your own
voice. Yeah. I think also it

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reminds you how much power there is
out there creatively. When you read something

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good, it just um. You
know, it's not that it fires up

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your competitive instincts, but it pushes
you to say, you know what I

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can do better? Like I can
do better than I've already done. Their

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new levels for me to reach.
There's new potential for me to find.

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So I think that's why artists are
always looking for something that I'm always looking

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for something that wows me. You
know that when I read it, Oh

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man, this is a different level. But how do I get to this

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level? So I think it's it's
a lot like sports. I was an

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athlete throwing up in a lot of
ways, and I feel like I always

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love to playing against someone who's who
is a lot better than me, because

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then I would try to pick apart
their game, you know. So,

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um, I think it's the same. Wow, you got to come back

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to this show anytime in the future. You know that door is always going

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to be open for you, sir. Thank you so much. I hope

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I'm back to doing with something else. Absolutely, will you be brilliant today?

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Okay, thank you
