1 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:21,320 What E's up, Fellow Sickos and thermonuclear afres Im Dan Valley coming at you 2 00:00:21,359 --> 00:00:25,000 with another solo podcast, A podcast I wanted to record for just a minute, 3 00:00:25,399 --> 00:00:28,760 but between fireworks and puppy duty that comes with the fireworks, couldn't carve 4 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,480 out time at night. Didn't want to do it during the day because it's 5 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,679 gonna become so dated. We're doing it during the day on a Saturday anyway. 6 00:00:34,679 --> 00:00:36,759 I've got triple screens up, friend of new Cares, I've got my 7 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,280 well, I guess four screens if you count my two phones. The other 8 00:00:39,359 --> 00:00:42,799 laptop here where have notes, cap stuff and about signings. We'll get to. 9 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:46,799 I'm gonna go through what I think is every NBA team's biggest need that 10 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,719 they still need to address now that we're done with this first sort of wave 11 00:00:49,759 --> 00:00:52,880 of free agency. As I'm recording this, it's the sixth. The moratorium 12 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,000 will lift shortly. I think I'm eight minutes out of that happen happening, 13 00:00:56,039 --> 00:01:00,359 so we have some more deals that will become official, if anything news. 14 00:01:00,359 --> 00:01:02,640 We're gonna cover enough teams here Aleius. I'm gonna try and make it super 15 00:01:02,719 --> 00:01:06,280 quick pace, maybe like I mean an hour for all thirty teams would be 16 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:11,079 great, but again I'm gonna go through all those very quickly. 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And like I said, we'll use the Some teams might be longer. 26 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,760 And if there's any signings we missed, because we want to talk about 27 00:01:40,799 --> 00:01:44,799 every signing, I will fold those into which is why partly I have another 28 00:01:44,799 --> 00:01:49,040 screen up here, because I have unbolded the signings that haven't covered for each 29 00:01:49,079 --> 00:01:52,000 team yet insofar as they've made them, and we're gonna go. Look, 30 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:53,359 it's a little dangerous, and I thought about going to reverse, but now 31 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,920 I'm doing it myself. This isn't the time to go reverse here. So 32 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:00,719 we're gonna begin with the Atlanta Hawks. Their biggest need no move since we 33 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:02,840 might still be waiting on them to do stuff. So to last talk, 34 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,640 it feels like they need I mean, they still need two way wings. 35 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,360 Just because Zachary Risichet is really young. We don't know what he's gonna look 36 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:14,520 like at the NBA level. Dyson Daniels is very defense oriented, even though 37 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,919 I kind of like his passing field there. They do have DeAndre Hunter, 38 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:22,039 but he's like this is like he's like one point twenty five way where it's 39 00:02:22,039 --> 00:02:24,120 like there's gonna be days where all look how dynamic he is or plug and 40 00:02:24,159 --> 00:02:27,400 play on offense. I know he's defending quite well. There's gonna be days 41 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,159 where it's at so he's not quite I wouldn't call him one dimensional. He's 42 00:02:30,159 --> 00:02:31,639 got the body, he could still stack up. But they also kind of 43 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:35,639 need, like is the plan at this point just to have Are you gonna 44 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,479 give a lot of backup point guard reps to Dyson Daniels or Kobe Buffkin I 45 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:44,280 don't hate, And of course Bogdanovich is here actually don't hate that idea of 46 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,479 like, Okay, let's see what we have in Kobe Buffkin, and let's 47 00:02:46,479 --> 00:02:49,840 give Dyson Daniels. Let's surround him with shooting. Maybe those are the minutes 48 00:02:49,879 --> 00:02:53,719 where you downsize with because if theoretic you'll be big all the other positions. 49 00:02:53,759 --> 00:02:57,039 Do you go with a Kungu or Nance or Jalen Johnson is like, you 50 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,800 know, two of those guys as your front courts for better spacing than Capella. 51 00:03:00,879 --> 00:03:01,919 I don't hate it, but I probably like to see them get like 52 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:06,120 another backup type of point guard if they're not going to go that route though 53 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,199 they need two way wings. I just don't see them expending the assets necessary 54 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:14,360 to go out and get those two way wings. The Boston Celtics, since 55 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,080 we last spoke, they did sign resign Xavier Tillman two years, four point 56 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:21,400 eight million dollars. I think that was good, just a different type of 57 00:03:21,439 --> 00:03:23,280 big man look for them, and he can hold up I think better than 58 00:03:23,319 --> 00:03:28,240 people realize. On switches, they still feel like not that they're shallow. 59 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,120 At the five. You have Horford and Cornette and Tillman, and that's like, 60 00:03:30,159 --> 00:03:34,400 that's probably fine for bigs. And then the porzingis injury sort of looms 61 00:03:34,439 --> 00:03:38,080 and you have Namias Kaita is coming back as well. But it's like, 62 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,800 okay, if Al Horford gets injured, things feel like they could get touch 63 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,759 and go. I don't know what else you would expect them to do. 64 00:03:44,159 --> 00:03:46,159 When you do look at this team, it's like kind of you know, 65 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:51,719 what do they actually need? Because their top like you could trust their top 66 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:53,360 seven guys. You want to throw Sam Hawser in there, top eight, 67 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:58,319 if you're throwing Peyton Pritchard, they just really they don't have a hole. 68 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,199 I would say maybe they could use a different type of reserve wing on this 69 00:04:01,319 --> 00:04:05,520 roster. Maybe someone would shimme in between the two three or four justin Holliday 70 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,680 would be interesting. You would you know, you have to look and you 71 00:04:08,759 --> 00:04:11,960 run roster spot issues here. Of course they're only working with minimums. If 72 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,280 you want a different type of backup playmaker for them, I would kind of 73 00:04:15,319 --> 00:04:18,639 get it up. But like just between Derek White, Andrew Holliday and Jason 74 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:23,240 Tatum and Peyton Prichard and of course even Jent, like you can just stagger 75 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,920 minutes. Definitely you can run some stuff through Al Horford, and I think 76 00:04:26,959 --> 00:04:30,720 I might be over compensating for focusing too much on saying that they need this 77 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:36,519 additional this additional playmaking, so kind of like just another combo wing forward type 78 00:04:36,519 --> 00:04:39,839 because look, you have White and Brown and Tatum and I guess you want 79 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,240 to throw holiday then, but that's sort of it. And so someone outside 80 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,600 the starting lineup who's not Sam Hawser that can maybe fill that role a little 81 00:04:45,639 --> 00:04:48,279 bit better defensively. But this team is just the Celtics are the quintessential no 82 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,639 notes team. But aside from just health, I don't know what you can 83 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:55,879 actually like, what concern are we going to manufacture here? So let's not 84 00:04:55,959 --> 00:05:00,560 manufacture anything. Let's just keep it moving. The Brooklyn Nets, I mean, 85 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,399 you talk about a team, they're all over the place. I kind 86 00:05:02,399 --> 00:05:05,480 of bandied about the idea like they they need I want to see them have 87 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:09,720 like a floor general of the future, timand I mean they need anything of 88 00:05:09,759 --> 00:05:13,160 the future, because who's there, who's their primary building block right now? 89 00:05:13,199 --> 00:05:15,279 They don't have one, and so if you want to have that be the 90 00:05:15,319 --> 00:05:18,879 need. But just like having Ben Simmons, having Dennis Shooter, I know 91 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:23,240 you have Can Thomas is probably him or Nick Klakson. The closest they have 92 00:05:23,319 --> 00:05:27,319 to a building block, but those two are not building block type of people. 93 00:05:27,639 --> 00:05:30,000 If you end up moving to Cam Johnson or Dorian Phinney Smith, seeing 94 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:34,519 if you can get sort of a younger point guard type feels like the way 95 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,439 to go to this team, that someone who could start organizing your offense again. 96 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,079 Having Ben Simmons if he's healthy, or Dennis Shooter in the interim, 97 00:05:42,199 --> 00:05:45,879 those guys are not going to be long for Brooklyn anyway, and so they 98 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,120 just need a talent infusion. Younger talent take the flyer if you want him 99 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,639 in the wings, comble forward. It's not a big like I'm fine with, 100 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,600 I'm interested in I'm still interested in Noah Clowney, full disclosure, dayon 101 00:05:56,639 --> 00:05:59,399 sharp like kind of nice physical, some brute force there, and then you 102 00:05:59,439 --> 00:06:02,120 have Nick Lass. So I think that's the route for for them to go 103 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:09,600 there for sure. The Charlotte Hornets, they still not moves again. I'll 104 00:06:09,639 --> 00:06:11,959 go through them. If there's any moves that we have not covered yet, 105 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,720 we'll get into a little detail with them. They're like still they're kind of 106 00:06:15,759 --> 00:06:18,800 in the talent acquisition mode type deal. It still kind of feels like, 107 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:24,319 do they need the guy that's gonna just play next to LaMelo ball long term, 108 00:06:24,319 --> 00:06:26,439 and it's not gonna be is it? Trey Man. It's not gonna 109 00:06:26,759 --> 00:06:30,959 not gonna be Reggie Jackson. I do kind of like their wing setup now 110 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:34,160 when you look at having TJ's lawn and Brandon Miller, I think that's a 111 00:06:34,199 --> 00:06:38,600 good start. You also still have Cody Martin on this team, so like 112 00:06:38,639 --> 00:06:41,040 I'm not and we don't know what's gonna happen with Miles Bridges as of this 113 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:45,519 moment, of course, so they could use some wing upgrades in theory if 114 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,560 you're looking for a veteran presence. But it's like, if that's a two 115 00:06:47,639 --> 00:06:51,160 three, do you think it's Josh Green? That's fine. I tend to 116 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:55,399 be a little bit lower on Josh Green than most. I like him better 117 00:06:55,439 --> 00:06:59,439 in the non LaMelo minutes, to be honest with everybody. But if they 118 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,079 could, I guess it's just like I'll call it wing shooting. Just they 119 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,199 have they they do have Miller, they have LaMelo, they have Josh Green 120 00:07:05,199 --> 00:07:09,360 can hit threes, but see they meet it. So you do have guys 121 00:07:09,399 --> 00:07:11,519 who can do that. Maybe if you want, if you want them to 122 00:07:11,519 --> 00:07:13,879 swing for the fences. I think you look at it and try to identify 123 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:15,160 it and say, okay, they do have Salon, and so if you 124 00:07:15,199 --> 00:07:17,920 want to evaluate him in the larger context, okay, the four is set 125 00:07:17,959 --> 00:07:21,360 and if you don't trust Miles Bridges, which totally fair. So just like 126 00:07:21,399 --> 00:07:24,920 another two three that's based on the floor, I think would be good. 127 00:07:24,959 --> 00:07:28,720 You could make a case that would be better to have some backup point guards 128 00:07:28,759 --> 00:07:30,600 here. Again Trey Mann being there, He's got some wiggle to him. 129 00:07:30,879 --> 00:07:34,519 And then of course Reggie Jackson is just like a good enough steward probably, 130 00:07:34,519 --> 00:07:38,160 and then again, they still have Mesich on this roster, so I'm gonna 131 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,839 settle on that. Another team that's sort of in transition though, so you 132 00:07:40,839 --> 00:07:45,079 could come up with a ton of different ones. The Bulls, I mean, 133 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:47,600 what don't they need to make sure that they duck attacks and any Demard 134 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:54,199 Rosen fine in trade? I like, I guess like they still kind of 135 00:07:54,199 --> 00:07:57,199 could use shooting they have if Zach Levine's gonna be moved, it seems like 136 00:07:57,199 --> 00:08:00,560 they're trying to move Lonzo Ball. You did just trade for Josh. I 137 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,319 think that's sort of the logic behind Okay, we brought in Jalen Smith here. 138 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,120 That gives you kind of another guy him and Vooch to space the floor. 139 00:08:07,199 --> 00:08:09,160 I think if you want to get super general as, we'll just get 140 00:08:09,199 --> 00:08:13,160 future first round picks and just continue to lean into sort of the bottom. 141 00:08:13,199 --> 00:08:16,959 It does seem like they're taking a more gradual approach. You kind of just 142 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:20,399 need indiscriminate shooting across the two, three, and four, and I would 143 00:08:20,439 --> 00:08:24,480 probably shooting with size, like real wing size is probably the way to go. 144 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,199 Because you do have Kobe White, you do have Io Discreming on this 145 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:30,279 team, and again for now you have Zach Lavine and Lonzo Ball I hope 146 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,360 is healthy enough to watch this season. You brought back Patrick Williams, but 147 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:37,279 just sort of like you know, Javon Carter is on the smaller end too, 148 00:08:37,519 --> 00:08:39,879 So just like Kobe White and dissume was kind of a wing has good 149 00:08:39,919 --> 00:08:43,240 size, can defend up, but just like wing, I think, just 150 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,960 go wing shooting in volume, which spoiler alert, that's I guess that's going 151 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:50,320 to fall into the category for a lot of these teams. Every team could 152 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,279 be like, couldn't we have someone who plays the two to three in the 153 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:56,600 four then just shoots threes, that'd be great, but that's probably their biggest 154 00:08:56,639 --> 00:09:00,679 need. It's tough to really boil it down for them, though, until 155 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:05,360 you get understand what direction they're actually headed in. And it does seem again 156 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,519 that they're maybe not a full tilt rebuild, butch is based off the rumors 157 00:09:07,519 --> 00:09:11,120 about will they sign and trade to Marta Rose into the Sacramento Kings or maybe 158 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:15,360 even the San Antonio Spurs, So it does seem like they're headed in that 159 00:09:15,399 --> 00:09:18,080 direction. But until they pick it, not to be confused with jam and 160 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:22,919 Picket, but until they actually pick that direction, it's like kind of tough 161 00:09:22,919 --> 00:09:24,480 to identify the needs. And as of right now, I guess you could 162 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:28,679 say, because you paid Patrick Williams and you just have like you're kind of 163 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,320 fine in the back court of Giddy and Kobe White, and as soon move 164 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,600 if you want to evaluate those guys against the future, it's still you could 165 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,759 say, well, let's get like an actual center. If you want it 166 00:09:35,799 --> 00:09:39,200 to get like a center of the future in there, you go with that, 167 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:43,240 because they don't really have that on the roster, But anyway you want 168 00:09:43,279 --> 00:09:46,840 to slice it with that, and could you get someone who fills either of 169 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:48,720 those roles that I just talked about in at Marta Rose and Sign and Trader 170 00:09:48,759 --> 00:09:52,279 as part of a Zach Lavine trade. Honestly don't know, certainly not gonna 171 00:09:52,279 --> 00:09:54,159 get that as part of the Lonzo ball trades. I don't think he has 172 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,559 a ton of value around the league right now, or if that matter, 173 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:01,799 does Zachlline next team up the Cleveland Cavaliers. So since we last spoke, 174 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:05,960 Domna Mitchell agreed to an extension three years, about one hundred and fifty point 175 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,039 three million dollars, one fewer year than he could have signed for. But 176 00:10:09,159 --> 00:10:13,960 now, if you're Cleveland, like you've added two seasons so this season the 177 00:10:13,039 --> 00:10:16,320 following season to say, okay, we have this, we're not going to 178 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:20,600 be under pressure to move him, and then he'll have another guaranteed year before 179 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,440 free agency or the option to get to free agency. But like that could 180 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,080 be if you haven't won yet, or if you haven't progressed, or you're 181 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:30,120 looking to you know, the roster got so expensive with Mobile on a new 182 00:10:30,159 --> 00:10:33,360 deal, maybe Allen on a new deal, you bought yourself two years here 183 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:37,600 with this three year extension being tacked on to two plus one being tacked on 184 00:10:37,639 --> 00:10:43,360 to the year that's already there, So you've given yourself two more years. 185 00:10:43,399 --> 00:10:46,600 I would say, of just not you know, worry free, but you 186 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:48,519 know that he can be here for two years, is not going to be 187 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,679 pressure to move him. You can see what the work that Kenny Atkinson does 188 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,799 with this core four. I think that's you know, they could have hoped 189 00:10:54,799 --> 00:10:58,440 for the four year extension that would have bought them even like three years with 190 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,159 this, but to just get that commitment from Donna Mitchell is a very big 191 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,480 deal for this team, and I think it reiterates why organizations that might not 192 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:07,840 be on a player's list or be in the primary running go out there and 193 00:11:07,879 --> 00:11:09,840 make the move. If you think you're closer, you think it makes a 194 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:11,879 difference because these guys might stick around. So I was kind that was kind 195 00:11:11,919 --> 00:11:15,840 of cool to see In terms of biggest need. I mean, it's kind 196 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,639 of the same. It's you want more like, I guess a two way 197 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,960 wing, someone who could play in the playoffs, maybe lock some time at 198 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,799 the four, can defend maybe some of the bigger wing assignments where that's not 199 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:28,320 Isaaca Korro Strength who is This recording still remains unsigned. By the way, 200 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:33,200 in restricted free agency. They would be an interesting Dorian Phinney Smith team, 201 00:11:33,279 --> 00:11:35,039 I think, and they should be able just between George and Nyang salary, 202 00:11:35,039 --> 00:11:39,519 they could cobble together enough to get there. I just don't know in terms 203 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:43,080 of draft equity, what is Brooklyn gonna want for that player? And so 204 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,799 you go out, you draft jam and Tyson. Is that enoughs like kind 205 00:11:46,799 --> 00:11:50,240 of to sweeten that package. But that's sort of the need because we know 206 00:11:50,279 --> 00:11:52,639 that they're gonna heavily stagger, you know, all four of their top players 207 00:11:52,639 --> 00:11:56,759 where you're gonna see different combinations between the two guards and the two bigs. 208 00:11:56,799 --> 00:12:01,679 But we know that they're probably gonna aggressively stagger Jared Evan Mobley unless Evan Mobley 209 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:03,440 just comes in he's shooting, you know, a bunch above the great threes 210 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:07,320 and hitting him at thirty five, thirty six percent clip or whatever that's gonna 211 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:11,320 be. That's gonna remain their biggest need. Next up the Dallas Mavericks, 212 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,679 who I turns out I'm a lot higher on there all season. A lot 213 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,440 of people who don't think they've improved by that much. Maybe those people really 214 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:20,279 like Josh Green or Tim Hardaway Junior Uh, they probably could use like another 215 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:26,360 point of attack defensive option, just because I believe in Dante exhim and even 216 00:12:26,399 --> 00:12:30,559 just having watched Quentin Grimes for the first like I don't know, like the 217 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,840 two seasons of his career before things went sideways this past year. That's actually 218 00:12:33,879 --> 00:12:37,679 a role that he could fill while spacing the floor and not needing the ball. 219 00:12:37,399 --> 00:12:39,879 The fact that Detroit gave him up in that Tim Hardaway dump where that 220 00:12:39,879 --> 00:12:43,200 they only got them seconds that was bizarre. So it's is there something there 221 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:48,600 that's medically a red flag or behaviorally or functionally like what is it about that 222 00:12:48,759 --> 00:12:50,720 organization that was out on him in the Knicks even eventually moving on from him. 223 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:56,039 But I do think that they can reasonably appros like Derek Jones Junior gave 224 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,120 you flexibility and pop that. No, you're not gonna replace with Dante Exim, 225 00:12:58,159 --> 00:13:01,320 you're not going to replace it with with Quenton Grins, But you do 226 00:13:01,399 --> 00:13:05,039 have options there. They're not barren of this, and Naji Marshall I do 227 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:09,240 think can hold up against They're probably more change of pace, smaller players like 228 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:13,320 the Shake Gillis. Alexander's the name I mentioned, So if you need someone 229 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,320 to go. But like, I think he could probably do well against a 230 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,039 Devin Booker type or a Bradley Beal type. If you have more of these 231 00:13:18,159 --> 00:13:22,159 just like explosive type guys or really just super quick twitch, that might be 232 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:26,440 where he runs into some issues. I just think they can approximate it enough. 233 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,679 At the same time, like there's no other need, Like you could 234 00:13:28,759 --> 00:13:31,240 look and say, all right, like do you want to see kind of 235 00:13:31,279 --> 00:13:35,039 a different type of like three, like another type of wing in there, 236 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:39,840 And I mean, I guess that'd be fair. But Naji Marshall can spend 237 00:13:39,879 --> 00:13:41,720 time at a three or the four PG Washington, you can move him around, 238 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,600 but I think it's maybe another point of attack option. Not I don't 239 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,360 know that they need to close games. That's also gonna be like a very 240 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:52,639 tough thing to fill at this point in the offseason. I mean, do 241 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,600 they want to reunion with Dennis Smith Junior. I don't know. I was 242 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:00,279 about to say Dennis Jones junior. That would have been super weird. That's 243 00:14:00,279 --> 00:14:03,000 not a real player for a case. Anyone who's wondering, so like I 244 00:14:03,039 --> 00:14:07,639 just and you're kind of looking at the options. It's I have wondered just 245 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:09,320 like Markel Foltz is still floating around out there. My guess is maybe just 246 00:14:09,399 --> 00:14:13,000 Orlando is gonna re sign him at this point because they're just bringing all their 247 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:18,279 normal guys back apparently. But uh, that would be if they're gonna address 248 00:14:18,279 --> 00:14:20,840 something. I think this team is better that you have Klay Thompson on the 249 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:22,960 wings now, by the way, and if you can like figure out you 250 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:26,440 know, nauseus to cover some of the tougher wing coverages and then Clay gets 251 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:30,480 to shift on to just like maybe glorified fours at that point. I don't 252 00:14:30,519 --> 00:14:31,879 know if their defense will be as good as it was last season, but 253 00:14:31,879 --> 00:14:35,120 I think their offense is a lot better. And I really don't think if 254 00:14:35,159 --> 00:14:37,639 there is a drop off defensively that you're gonna see it. And if you 255 00:14:37,639 --> 00:14:41,440 wind up with like a Markel Foltz as just an option floating around on here, 256 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,600 I mean, good god, they're gonna have a case to be favorites 257 00:14:43,639 --> 00:14:46,799 over Okay see at that point, and by the way, you know, 258 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:48,440 it takes a lot for me to put anyone in the same classes. Okay 259 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:52,639 see, Uh, Denver has made They have not made any other move since 260 00:14:52,639 --> 00:14:54,960 we talked about the Clay Thompson signing with Dallas, by the way, in 261 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,240 case that he wants to go back and listen to that podcast. So I 262 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:03,799 mean they probably I'm like, what is their biggest need? I would probably 263 00:15:03,799 --> 00:15:07,240 say you could are like a veteran backup five or a veteran backup one, 264 00:15:07,399 --> 00:15:11,799 or I think you probably need like the KCP replacement, or just like here's 265 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,320 the issue. And there are a lot of Nuggets fans who agreed with what 266 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:20,080 I said about the Nuggets on the last podcast, Like I understand this idea 267 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,840 that Christian Brown will come in and be as good or better defensive, leaving 268 00:15:22,919 --> 00:15:26,159 Kintavius Caulled the pulp. I also understand that there are real second Apron challenges 269 00:15:26,159 --> 00:15:28,600 here. I think when you really start to dig into the frozen picks and 270 00:15:28,679 --> 00:15:31,480 how long you know, if you're in the second Apron for a full season, 271 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:33,720 your pick becomes frozen, then if you do it again, it's going 272 00:15:33,759 --> 00:15:35,919 to be moved to the bottom of the draft. And then to get out 273 00:15:35,919 --> 00:15:39,200 of it, you're talking about like being out of it in I think three 274 00:15:39,279 --> 00:15:43,440 or four years or whatever it is. Those are real challenges. My issue 275 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,039 with the KCP thing, and I promise I won't spend a shit ton of 276 00:15:46,039 --> 00:15:48,600 time on this is that if you really wanted to, you could have ducked 277 00:15:48,679 --> 00:15:54,200 the tax the second apron excuse me, with him, they're like fifteen million 278 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:58,600 away from it right now. You add kcp's twenty two million dollars or whatever 279 00:15:58,639 --> 00:16:02,519 it starts in year one into the fold your Zeke Naugy salary. Dounb Beleway 280 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:04,919 and we talked about that deal when it was initially signed last year and said, 281 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,240 well, it's good that you have this sort of matching salary on the 282 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,440 books that you need to make a trade. But that's almost turned into a 283 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,879 toxic deal because he hasn't played, and they went out four years for some 284 00:16:14,919 --> 00:16:17,679 reason, which was very lengthy, and I'm sure we mentioned it at the 285 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:22,240 time. That is my primary issue here is that I'm team. If there's 286 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:23,360 a way to do it, and there was a clear path to do it, 287 00:16:23,279 --> 00:16:26,720 it might have cost you some draft equity, but I think he probably 288 00:16:26,759 --> 00:16:30,840 could have done it without giving up seconds. But like you're trying to figure 289 00:16:30,879 --> 00:16:33,039 out and Zach wophrase this way, you have to figure out the backup to 290 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,000 the backup minutes now, ok So, Christian Brown comes in replaces what KCP 291 00:16:36,159 --> 00:16:38,480 is doing. Now you need someone to replace like the Christian Brown type reserve 292 00:16:38,519 --> 00:16:41,240 minutes. Do you think that's Julian Strother. We're going to see a lot 293 00:16:41,279 --> 00:16:45,360 more hunter Tyson. There also seems like this might have been the product of 294 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,879 a disconnect between the coaching staff and the front office. Just the way that 295 00:16:48,279 --> 00:16:52,320 you know Justin Holliday's not back at this moment, and the way that he 296 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:56,480 was played in favor of Peyton Watson during that Minnesota Timberwolve series. Is that 297 00:16:56,559 --> 00:16:59,279 something that Calvin Booth would not have wanted to see, no matter how bad 298 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:03,240 Peyton Watson was. I just think for this year, you continue kick the 299 00:17:03,279 --> 00:17:04,839 can. Yeah, you have to reconcile when Aaron Gordon's on his next deal 300 00:17:04,839 --> 00:17:08,680 and Jamal Murray has presumed extension kicks in. Okay, fine deal with it 301 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,480 then. So that's where I ended up with. When you're citing a need, 302 00:17:12,079 --> 00:17:17,079 it's I mean, like, I guess just a veteran backup five. 303 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,079 I'd like you have Nase and you have Jordan, and you have Deron Holmes. 304 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:23,079 Now I think it's probably I'm gonna go with shooting. You need to 305 00:17:23,079 --> 00:17:26,359 go another wing type of shooter, but just like you were a low volume 306 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:30,319 three point shooting team, and that's a tough math to win, even if 307 00:17:30,319 --> 00:17:33,599 you have Nicole Jokich on your squad. So you kind of need like someone 308 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:40,359 in the vein of a two three four who's not who has more experience. 309 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,519 It's like maybe that would be a Justin Holliday at this point if we're talking 310 00:17:42,559 --> 00:17:45,359 just minimum options, is there anyone that you could get as part of a 311 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,759 Zeke Najy trade? Do you take a flyer on like his? Has Sadik 312 00:17:48,839 --> 00:17:53,119 Bay fallen down into the minimum territory? Do you take a stab at Jay 313 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,160 Crowder? I just feel like they need an extra body there. I don't 314 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:57,599 expect them to play at this point because of how invested in the youth they 315 00:17:57,599 --> 00:18:00,599 are. It's slim Pickens at this point in Freeing and Joe Angles would have 316 00:18:00,599 --> 00:18:04,759 been fantastic, by the way, but he's he's ended up. Excuse me, 317 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:07,000 he's not gonna end up going. I thought that was a great addition 318 00:18:07,039 --> 00:18:11,160 by Minnesota to get him, which we'll probably get to. So just like, 319 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:12,519 do you want to see him take a look at Dario Sarich, Just 320 00:18:12,519 --> 00:18:15,720 like some of a backup five there. They just they just need another veteran 321 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:21,559 in the rotation to me in case there are nights where the younger guys aren't 322 00:18:21,559 --> 00:18:22,920 giving you enough or you need to sort of pivot. I'm not even any 323 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,640 of the names I listed, you can't guarantee me that they're gonna play over 324 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:30,000 X or should. And maybe that's what Calvin Booth is doing because he wants 325 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,480 to take all the other alternatives out of Michael Malone's clip, which he's basically 326 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:37,200 effectively done. So like if Gordon Hayward's willing to sign for the minimum, 327 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:41,000 that'd be interesting sort of gamble for them. Not really gonna help their three 328 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:42,599 point volume or defense though, but I guess from just a pure talent play, 329 00:18:42,799 --> 00:18:45,440 would he even be willing to do that though, just because he wants 330 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:52,119 He clearly wants these youngsters to to develop. Our next team here is going 331 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:56,599 to be someone's Detroit Pistons. I'm not gonna take ownership of them. They 332 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,279 just added that's one of the things we missed on them is they signed the 333 00:18:59,319 --> 00:19:03,400 league Beasley to a one year, six million dollar contract right before I hopped 334 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:07,440 on this podcast. I think just continuing to load up on shooting. I 335 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,000 totally get it. And now you have Tobias Harris, you have Malik Beasley, 336 00:19:11,079 --> 00:19:15,359 you have Tim Hardaway Junior. So those are guys who can effectively space 337 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,200 that we have Marcus Sasser two by the way, so when you have you 338 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:22,359 know, a non spacing five and Calender and Isaiah Stewarts here, they've yet 339 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:26,240 to resign Simoni Fontechio and that's probably their biggest need is like let's make sure 340 00:19:26,559 --> 00:19:30,240 he comes back with Oursar Thompson and Rob Holland and how shaky j and Ivey's 341 00:19:30,279 --> 00:19:33,519 been. You just can't have too much shooting on this team. And so 342 00:19:33,759 --> 00:19:37,400 I think you've gotten to a point now where you could play if you really 343 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,000 structure it. Stewart at the five like you can get to some either five 344 00:19:40,039 --> 00:19:44,279 out or four our combinations that make at like literal actual sense. And so 345 00:19:44,319 --> 00:19:47,640 I like that from them. I probably continue to load up on shooting. 346 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:52,240 I think what they maybe could need as I mean a bunch of stuff, 347 00:19:52,279 --> 00:19:56,200 but could there be like a better way to get some floor spacing five minutes 348 00:19:56,839 --> 00:19:59,519 At this point in free agency, you're not just gonna go out there like 349 00:19:59,599 --> 00:20:02,720 Daniel is not like okay, whatever, you know, the Daniel types of 350 00:20:02,759 --> 00:20:04,640 like four or five years ago. Maybe so it have to be done via 351 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,000 trade. I think it might be more realistic, you know, can we 352 00:20:07,079 --> 00:20:11,480 get some like the idea they had with Monte Morris that didn't pan out, 353 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:15,599 whereas like, do we have sort of a veteran floor general, an alternative 354 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,759 to to Jade and I mean an alternative to the kid coming here to lead 355 00:20:18,799 --> 00:20:22,400 some of those minutes? Again, you're looking in free agency and like Folts 356 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:23,839 isn't a good enough shooter. I don't think because didn't what you're gonna want 357 00:20:23,839 --> 00:20:26,799 to go back to Denver? I mean, did you just want Tyas Jones 358 00:20:26,839 --> 00:20:30,480 on this roster because you can afford him? And doesn't seem like any other 359 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,759 team is all that interested? Is that something you're addressing via via trade? 360 00:20:33,759 --> 00:20:37,519 But that seems like what they could still. I think that's what they need 361 00:20:37,559 --> 00:20:41,519 the most. It's just kind of that alternative there. I don't really like 362 00:20:42,519 --> 00:20:47,440 I get the investing the minute equity and like and Arstar Thompson can do some 363 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,680 stuff. Maybe we see him as like some primary playmaker minutes around shooting, 364 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:53,319 but I kind of like to see them get just more of a veteran presence. 365 00:20:53,319 --> 00:20:56,880 There again the idea of Monte Morris, which I thought made a lot 366 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,119 of sense for them. The next team we have is going to be and 367 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,799 we have some stuff to talk about them, I believe, the Golden State 368 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:07,440 Warriors. So since we last talked, Kyle Anderson signed a three year, 369 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:11,920 twenty seven million dollar deal in a sign in trade. They also got Buddy 370 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:15,880 Healed via sign and trade for Dallas' twenty thirty one second round pick. They 371 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,759 guaranteed him two years an eighteen million. Basically, it's the three million partial 372 00:21:18,799 --> 00:21:22,440 guarantee in year three, so guaranteed total of twenty one and it goes out 373 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,880 to an unguaranteed year four. So that's a very team friendly contract for the 374 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,680 Dubs. And the fact, look, you basically turned to Chris Paul and 375 00:21:30,799 --> 00:21:37,279 Klay Thompson into the Anthony Melton, KYLEE Anderson and Buddy Heald. But even 376 00:21:37,319 --> 00:21:41,640 more so, like to turn Klay Thompson's departure and that traded player exception into 377 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,319 Buddy Heald and KYLEE Anderson I think is nice work. And then even with 378 00:21:47,039 --> 00:21:51,079 like this team now, they're really interesting defensively when you look at having KYLEE 379 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:52,839 Anderson and Melton adding that to the fold. If Gary Payton the second is 380 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,559 healthy, still have Draymond Green, Jonathan Comingga, maybe Andrew Wiggins has a 381 00:21:56,559 --> 00:22:02,079 bounce back year here. They're like they're in an interesting spot and Buddy healed 382 00:22:02,079 --> 00:22:03,839 shooting. Of course that'll be important, very interesting how they flush out this 383 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,920 rotation where it still feels like they have a lot of players who need to 384 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,680 be on the floor, even if they don't have that second a lister beyond 385 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,200 Steph, and that's still their biggest need. I know they've been linked to 386 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,240 Larry Market and I think he would help. I thought a little bit about 387 00:22:17,279 --> 00:22:21,440 do they need more of a backup playmaker, but just between Kyle Anderson, 388 00:22:21,759 --> 00:22:25,119 Danfy Melton, having Draymond Green and Steph, I think you eke out just 389 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:26,480 enough here. It might be a need, but I don't know that it 390 00:22:26,519 --> 00:22:32,559 needs to be top of mind. They just needed another reliable person who can 391 00:22:32,599 --> 00:22:34,640 generate their own shot, and that's not on the roster right now. You 392 00:22:34,759 --> 00:22:38,480 really have to believe in Andrew, like even the twenty twenty two version of 393 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:42,319 Andrew Wiggins that was not necessarily his but not it just wasn't his strong suit. 394 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:48,000 I don't need to use the necessarily qualifier. I don't hate Larry market 395 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,440 here. I love that fit, but that's not really his game either. 396 00:22:49,559 --> 00:22:53,400 You sort of banging on Kaminga to become that player right now. They need 397 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,920 It's like almost a higher end talent is the way to phrase it, but 398 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,000 like that's what they're clearly looking to compete. I think they've done better work 399 00:23:00,079 --> 00:23:03,839 rebounding after deciding not to keep playing, not going to second Apron, then 400 00:23:03,839 --> 00:23:07,039 the Clippers or the Nuggets have done. So do I like the roster better 401 00:23:07,039 --> 00:23:07,920 than the Nuggets? No? Do I like them better than the Clippers? 402 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,680 Absolutely at this point. So, but that would be their their biggest need 403 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,880 again unless you just really think that like Moses Moody or Cominga or Pods is 404 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,079 going to become that guy. But also mentioned him in sort of the secondary 405 00:23:19,079 --> 00:23:22,920 playmaking options for them too, and I just don't That's why I go back 406 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,920 and forth where it's like I like Larry Marketing, but to see the guy 407 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:30,759 for this team that I would just give up everything for, and it's I 408 00:23:30,759 --> 00:23:33,240 mean probably not everything, because he's gonna be a free agent and you have 409 00:23:33,319 --> 00:23:36,119 him and if you're keeping Minga, both of those guys are gonna need new 410 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:40,079 deals at the same time. But like, if that's the move, I 411 00:23:40,079 --> 00:23:41,920 guess I would still make it. But it's like you probably need him to 412 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:48,119 generate more of his own shots or you're just hoping that infusing this team with 413 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:52,039 some extra spacing, having Larry market in in addition to maybe pods and you 414 00:23:52,079 --> 00:23:55,559 know, makes a leap there. And then you have Moses Moody playing some 415 00:23:55,599 --> 00:23:57,440 minutes. They're spacing could still be pretty walky on this team. But with 416 00:23:57,519 --> 00:24:02,079 healed, is there more room for Kaminga to kind of develop that part of 417 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:07,839 his game. The Houston Rockets like they they're they don't have a knee just 418 00:24:07,839 --> 00:24:11,079 because I like that they haven't really done anything this offseason because like just continue 419 00:24:11,079 --> 00:24:15,759 to invest. They resigned Aaron Holliday. Uh, they just don't have a 420 00:24:15,839 --> 00:24:18,160 need like I want to. I want to see all their their like I 421 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:22,400 want to see them play their their prospects and just let's look at all these 422 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,279 guys who need minutes. Brevent Fleet, Amen Thompson, Jalen Green, Reed 423 00:24:26,319 --> 00:24:30,640 Shepherd, Dylan Brooks, Jabari Smith, Cam Whitmore, Alpha and Shangun Tarry 424 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,480 Easton. That's ten guys and I didn't even mention a Jay Chante or Steven 425 00:24:34,519 --> 00:24:37,279 Adams, So that's just a lot of bodies there. If you had to 426 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:42,480 quibble, like they do, maybe need like I guess someone like a wing 427 00:24:42,599 --> 00:24:45,200 sized player who might be able to generate their own shot. Now Am and 428 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,319 Thompson sort of wing sized player, but he's almost a point guard of a 429 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:52,279 fringe big at this point, I think you could also just make the case 430 00:24:52,319 --> 00:24:56,400 like let's continue to lean into complimentary shooting. But I'm reticent to just list 431 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,599 anything here for them because I don't want to see them. It's it's not 432 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,480 a need. But if they wanted to make a consolidation move, which I 433 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:04,400 don't see the name out there, that would make sense for them. I 434 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,720 mean, lid marketing would be interesting on this team. I love Jabari Smith 435 00:25:07,799 --> 00:25:10,720 so much, but I'd kind of love to see those two play together. 436 00:25:11,319 --> 00:25:14,400 But like this team just doesn't have They're at a point in their development where 437 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,480 it's right, we have basically all the boxes checked. Maybe we need more 438 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,920 information about, well, what do we have in terms of primary playmakers When 439 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,799 it's Jalen Green and Fred van Fleet and Ahmen Thompson, Do we need more 440 00:25:22,839 --> 00:25:26,599 there? Do we have enough shooting? Where it's okay, it's Ree Shepherd, 441 00:25:26,599 --> 00:25:29,759 it's Jalen Green. Where we're gonna get is Jay Shon Taate or Chari 442 00:25:29,799 --> 00:25:30,680 Easton. Are they gonna be healthy enough? Well? They hit enough jump 443 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,160 shots? How does kem Whitmore fit in this equation. I'm not adding anyone 444 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,319 to this roster personally. If you wanted to pick, I guess it might 445 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:42,039 be like another veteran playmaker just to That's not Van Fleet's game necessarily. The 446 00:25:42,079 --> 00:25:45,160 Amen Thompson learning curve and just Aaron Aaron Holly is kind of more of a 447 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,400 downhill threat, not gonna be known as like that pass first. But this 448 00:25:48,519 --> 00:25:52,920 is like one of the teams where it's need is like a very strong I 449 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,519 wouldn't expect them to address anything. If the right star, you know, 450 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,799 Kevin Durant and they want him, or I'd be more interested in Devin Booker 451 00:26:00,039 --> 00:26:03,440 if he becomes available, then yeah you pounce, but there's not there's no 452 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,359 point in futzing and fiddling on the margins for the rockets is basically what I'm 453 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:11,160 getting at the Indiana Pacers. I mean the same thing, and they need 454 00:26:11,319 --> 00:26:14,640 a wing, like a wing defender. Aside from an Aaronie Smith or having 455 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,319 Andrew nemhartfil that role. TJ McConnell can play some of it. I guess 456 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:23,640 you can make the case that Jaris Walker defensively fits that bill. Sure, 457 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,480 I don't know if he fits that bill offensively. They would be another if 458 00:26:27,519 --> 00:26:30,960 you can get to the salary match, in which you could, but it's 459 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,279 okay. Are we comfortable getting rid of TJ McConnell at this point? They 460 00:26:33,279 --> 00:26:37,200 would just be an interesting dory Phinney Smith team to kind of take a flyer 461 00:26:37,319 --> 00:26:40,720 on him. From there, they would have been a very interesting mckillbridge's team. 462 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,480 But the Knicks made sure that that wasn't really happening for them, And 463 00:26:42,519 --> 00:26:45,880 you're kind of looking at you know, if they were able to scoop a 464 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,920 free agent off the scrap heap is like kind of to take like a flyer 465 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:55,119 on. There's just that guy is not really available. Maybe Javonte Green at 466 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,880 this point like that would be someone who'd be fairly interesting in Philly. I'm 467 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:02,200 not really taking him like a fly on Jay Crowder if on them again if 468 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,319 you just want it as like the body type there, but then you're infringing 469 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,400 upon just because he's like more forward than Wing at this point. And so 470 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,759 whoever you get, you don't necessarily want them. You created a weird I 471 00:27:11,759 --> 00:27:15,880 don't know if it's redundancy or just position an overlap with having Obi Toppin and 472 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:19,079 Pascal Siakam and Jarris Walker. Something's gonna have to give and it's not gonna 473 00:27:19,079 --> 00:27:22,519 be si Oakham's minutes, and you've just paid top it, and so does 474 00:27:22,559 --> 00:27:26,319 Walker's development suffer at all with this setup, So you don't want to bring 475 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,680 in someone else who's not worth maybe complicating that even further. I think Dorian 476 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,079 Phinney Smith because if you wanted to, just if you wanted to play super 477 00:27:33,079 --> 00:27:34,559 big, not even like structuring at the lineup, like you could just play 478 00:27:34,839 --> 00:27:40,759 Dorian Phinney Smith with Pascal Siakam and Miles Turner and like Jaris Walker if you 479 00:27:40,799 --> 00:27:42,000 really wanted to see what that looks like defensively, you could try it and 480 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,319 then just throw Tyree t Alburton at the one. But yeah, that's been 481 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,400 their biggest need. It remains their biggest need. We'll see if they look 482 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,480 to address it. I wouldn't expect them to do it this summer if the 483 00:27:52,559 --> 00:27:55,440 cost is cheap enough for Dorianfiney Smith. But they would be a team to 484 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,440 watch at the trade deadline for sure. For me. Next team up, 485 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,920 someone's Los Angeles Clippers not taking ownership of them either. They kind of need 486 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,559 Like do they need Terrence Man, Norman Powell, Kawhi Leonard, Derek Jones 487 00:28:07,599 --> 00:28:11,359 Junior is there? They have Nicholas Batune back. They need more playmaking. 488 00:28:11,559 --> 00:28:15,920 I just between having Bones Highland and Kevin Porter Junior. Russell Westbrook's not gonna 489 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,759 be there. You have James Harden for sure, he might be more comfortable 490 00:28:18,799 --> 00:28:22,440 this season because the ball should be in his hands even more. You have 491 00:28:22,519 --> 00:28:26,680 Kawhi Leonard to get there, so as a secondary option. Okay, sure, 492 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,880 I guess if you want to see them go a splashy or backup big 493 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,799 route or can someone downsize and play big man minutes for them? But you 494 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,799 might be able to get there with Batoum and Derrek Jones Junior, with Kawhi 495 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:41,000 Leonard, like just having big enough lineups there with Terrence Mann rolled into there, 496 00:28:41,039 --> 00:28:44,400 they do not need the I don't want to say forget about the off 497 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,839 court allegations. From a talent perspective, if you can get Miles Bridges for 498 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:53,240 a song, okay with this team, I just don't think he's gonna make 499 00:28:53,759 --> 00:28:56,079 even if it's costing. Norman Powell is not a good defender. He's gonna 500 00:28:56,119 --> 00:29:00,839 make the defense, I guess not worse, but he's not a defensive upgrade 501 00:29:00,839 --> 00:29:02,599 over Derek Jones Junior. I don't. Look, I'm gonna be honest, 502 00:29:02,599 --> 00:29:04,480 I don't if he's a defensive upgrade over Nick Patoum. I think Miles Bridges 503 00:29:04,519 --> 00:29:07,359 is super malleable. I think he's younger. When you're looking at his fit 504 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,519 on the court. Offensively, there's not enough self creation juiced there for me 505 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,119 to like it. So I kind of hate that addition for them. And 506 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,799 again could be colored by the domestic violence issues that he had off the court, 507 00:29:21,519 --> 00:29:23,519 and look, that's fair. I think that the league has moved on 508 00:29:23,599 --> 00:29:27,640 or decided that he is you know, he was punished, he quote unquote 509 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,680 served his time there, paid his dues there. I've yet to see any 510 00:29:30,799 --> 00:29:34,160 just I get to hear anything or see anything that would suggest that he has 511 00:29:34,279 --> 00:29:40,480 begun the path that would make you think he's worth the second Champs. Redemption 512 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:41,519 is a real thing, but we also have to earn it, especially when 513 00:29:41,559 --> 00:29:45,079 you're sort of this repeat offense, like a proven repeat offender, where don't 514 00:29:45,079 --> 00:29:48,480 forget about the second case where they said there wasn't enough evidence there, they're 515 00:29:48,599 --> 00:29:53,680 just like anecdotally terrible and there was certainly enough evidence in the first case. 516 00:29:53,759 --> 00:30:00,039 And you can't shifting stories in these situations. Take those with a grain of 517 00:30:00,079 --> 00:30:03,480 salt, just because when you're talking about domestic violence victims and if any story 518 00:30:03,519 --> 00:30:07,160 shift or if they painted as like it wasn't as bad as usual, you 519 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:08,119 have to take those with a grain of salt as well. It's the same 520 00:30:08,119 --> 00:30:11,720 thing with the Kevin Porter Junior stuff. This organization clear doesn't have a problem 521 00:30:11,759 --> 00:30:17,319 betting on potentially poor character players. I don't think he gives you enough backup 522 00:30:17,319 --> 00:30:22,160 playmaking either, I guess from a talent perspective, again, sure, but 523 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,039 it's got to be that or maybe just unless you're really high on Mobamba, 524 00:30:25,039 --> 00:30:29,480 it's that or just sort of the backup five stuff behind Zobots. They have 525 00:30:29,599 --> 00:30:32,039 the tools if they want to. Because they ducked the second April, this 526 00:30:32,079 --> 00:30:34,200 is another team man. Their excuse for the second apron. I think the 527 00:30:34,559 --> 00:30:38,160 look the Warriors were flat out with it where they just said in February Joelka, 528 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,559 but they don't want to pay it. I respect that more than just 529 00:30:41,559 --> 00:30:45,680 man in the same in the second aprin it was gonna be tough by the 530 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,960 way you offered Paul Georgia contracts. Still reportedly that would have taken you into 531 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,160 the second apron. So unless you were just dumping Norman Powell from three and 532 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:53,759 getting rid of Terrence Man, you still would have had set. You could 533 00:30:53,759 --> 00:30:56,000 get rid of p J. Tucker two. Of course there are the others 534 00:30:56,039 --> 00:30:59,519 are small ball five. That's why you don't need the backup five option. 535 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,160 But so I just the excuses here, I understand they're tough to reconcile with. 536 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:07,359 But if you're in a championship window now you go into the second apron 537 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,559 if it's to keep your own players, to keep your championship contact, and 538 00:31:11,559 --> 00:31:14,559 then you figure it out thereafter if more players are getting paid, or if 539 00:31:14,559 --> 00:31:15,680 you really have to have a conversation about that, we need to be out 540 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,799 of this in the next three years. When your window is now, it 541 00:31:18,839 --> 00:31:22,799 can't be about just the future. And that's what and the Clippers just painting 542 00:31:22,799 --> 00:31:25,839 it is that like the Nuggets at least, okay, you look at their 543 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,279 draft track record, what they've done with Youngster, some of the moves that 544 00:31:27,319 --> 00:31:30,720 they've made, at least they can kind of justify it. The Clippers is 545 00:31:30,759 --> 00:31:33,880 just what what are you doing? You've traded all your picks already, you 546 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,640 don't have young guys on this roster, and you offered him a contract, 547 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,440 so you didn't want to give him the fourth year, which again stupid. 548 00:31:40,519 --> 00:31:42,359 I think that was a bad decision. I will I think it was a 549 00:31:42,359 --> 00:31:47,960 bad decision or a curious decision. Will I Am I open to the fact 550 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,440 that I'll be wrong for Denver for the Clippers. Yeah, sure, I 551 00:31:51,799 --> 00:31:53,680 don't root for teams to fail. I don't care if I'm right or wrong. 552 00:31:53,759 --> 00:31:56,519 It's not people don't remember when I'm right anyway, They're only gonna remember 553 00:31:56,519 --> 00:32:00,319 when I'm wrong. So for engagement purposes, blue Clippers win the title at 554 00:32:00,319 --> 00:32:05,200 this point, I just don't. But it was a curious way for them 555 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,799 to justify it, like his departure and the fact that it sort of came 556 00:32:07,799 --> 00:32:10,759 out like the way they released it before he even picked his next team. 557 00:32:10,759 --> 00:32:15,160 That was just super bizarre too, just super cringe And just as a recap, 558 00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:17,160 we did cover this Nick Batum back. Then you have Chris Dunn, 559 00:32:17,359 --> 00:32:22,279 So forga abut Chris Dune for a minute. Is that enough playmaking? Though? 560 00:32:22,599 --> 00:32:25,519 I just and I guess with the Kevin between Kevin Porter Junior's flyer James 561 00:32:25,519 --> 00:32:29,920 Harden, Kris Don doesn't. I don't know if he does enough playmaking for 562 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,279 me you would like to. You have Kawhi Leonard Dellenbatum, So maybe I'm 563 00:32:32,319 --> 00:32:35,640 just like, yeah, it might just be the backup five route unless you 564 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,440 really trusting Mobamba here. It's it's one of those two things I think you 565 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,759 could also add for this team, Like they just need shooting. Even if 566 00:32:40,759 --> 00:32:44,839 you think Kevin Porter Junior is gonna come in and launch and hit a bunch 567 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,559 of threes. If Derek Jones Junior repeats his performance from Beyond the Arc he 568 00:32:47,599 --> 00:32:51,000 had this past regular season, but two will hit some threes, it's just 569 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:52,880 very iffy. Now you have a lot of guys that, like, you 570 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:59,359 don't have a lot of off ball good like bankuble shooters. It's Norman Powell 571 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,039 and then like I'm like, maybe we'll throw Nicholas between me and the Terrence 572 00:33:02,039 --> 00:33:05,880 man of course is in there. So yeah, there's steam as a bunch 573 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,960 of needs. They should be pretty frisky defensively. Zu Bought is a good 574 00:33:08,039 --> 00:33:13,039 rim protector and they have a lot of just optionality and malleability on the roster 575 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,359 and quick pet peeve I've heard. So there's always like everyone in while there's 576 00:33:15,359 --> 00:33:20,079 like the basketball cliches going around where I think I saw a point of attack 577 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,359 was there and maybe advantage creation. I saw optionality was becoming one. I 578 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:28,599 just want everyone to know that we probably we probably are responsible for like jumping 579 00:33:28,599 --> 00:33:31,599 on the bandwagon of cliches. At points optionality and scalability were here first. 580 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,160 So just just remember that that you heard it on Hard on Knocks first, 581 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:39,240 or at least in the early aughts before they became cliches. The Lakers vannie 582 00:33:39,359 --> 00:33:44,480 Lebrown to take that million dollar pay country duck the second apron fantastic pr worky 583 00:33:44,839 --> 00:33:45,920 by his team to make it look at Yeah, he's want to take less 584 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:50,920 if they can get actual talent, knowing they came and get fucking Yodae valentiunis, 585 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,119 or he might take a million less for us to duck the second apron. 586 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,799 If they want to duck the second apron, it's just dump a real 587 00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:00,240 salary. It's are you looking at Jared Vanderbilt trades or you look and it 588 00:34:00,279 --> 00:34:02,480 gave Vincent trades? Or is it we're getting rid of some of the minimums 589 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:07,480 where we gave those guys those options. This team is so weird they need 590 00:34:07,519 --> 00:34:10,960 two way wings. It's just boil it down. If they've actively decided every 591 00:34:12,039 --> 00:34:15,079 year since they've won the title that two way wings are stupid, or they've 592 00:34:15,159 --> 00:34:19,159 devalued them at almost every turn, and I guess over the past two seasons 593 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,239 or all seasons they haven't, but only because they're not in a position to 594 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,960 get them. So I don't know how you get any two way wings on 595 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:29,280 this roster. It's gonna have to happen via trade. They would be an 596 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:34,079 interesting story of Phinny Smith team. Can you shave salary as part of that 597 00:34:34,119 --> 00:34:36,760 deal? Like, what is the matching salary you want to send out there? 598 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,239 Brooklyn might be willing to take on. Gave Vincent. That's not enough 599 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:42,840 alone for during Phinney Smith's you need to include you can't step ladder your way 600 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,440 with minimums. On top of that, I don't know. I'm not giving 601 00:34:45,519 --> 00:34:50,679 Jared Vanderbilt up in that just because he's probably one of your better just point 602 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,880 of attack. There is point of attack defenders here right now, unless you 603 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:58,440 think that Gave Vincent is going to have sort of this one be healthy and 604 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,000 then have a Miami Heat renaissance. E Van Build actual makes less than him. 605 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,519 I don't know why I thought he was on the books for more. 606 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:07,039 They'd be interesting Dorny face Smith team, but they just need any reasonable just 607 00:35:07,119 --> 00:35:09,559 this guy might be a two way wing. The Heat just absolutely need to 608 00:35:09,599 --> 00:35:13,480 be in the Heat. The Lakers absolutely need to be in on that player. 609 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,679 And look, I think the Lebron deal getting the max, he should 610 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,880 get his money. It complicates their path to staying beneath the second Apron. 611 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,800 I don't care much though, Like I think like you could still just make 612 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,880 moves and cut salaries part like you could just aggregate. Just as an example, 613 00:35:27,199 --> 00:35:32,039 you gave Vincent and Jared Vanderbilt on the books for twenty one point seven 614 00:35:32,039 --> 00:35:36,719 million dollars next year, you could trade that money and just take like back 615 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,719 like a seventeen million dollar player if that player is indeed sort of available. 616 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,280 In theory, you could step out of your way with like three. I 617 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,639 wonder if making a deal is harder because it doesn't seem like they want to 618 00:35:45,679 --> 00:35:49,639 give up Dalton connect or even in Austin Reeves. And so two first two 619 00:35:49,639 --> 00:35:52,960 swaps plus salary, who does that get you? Probably not in the tree 620 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:57,960 Young discussion. Doesn't look like Darius Carlin's gonna request the trade either. None 621 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,760 of those guys are wings. By the way, could you get like how 622 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,079 hot would Atlanta be just to get off DeAndre Hunter? And you could say 623 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,599 this is kind of like a fact simile of it, like what I call 624 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,239 one point twenty five one point five way wing, just with if you were 625 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:14,559 like exchanging him for money, but that's he's making RUI He's making more than 626 00:36:14,559 --> 00:36:16,199 Marija Cha Moore. So would take two salaries and Atlanta's not gonna be a 627 00:36:16,199 --> 00:36:19,320 team that's gonna want to take on money. But that's what they need, 628 00:36:19,519 --> 00:36:23,519 is two way wing. So we move on to the Memphis Grizzlies, which 629 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:28,079 they're just kind of floating around out there that Luke and Ard still remains unsigned. 630 00:36:28,079 --> 00:36:30,159 The Declines team option haven't really done anything outside of drafting Zach Edy. 631 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,719 This seems gonna be frisky as it is, but they need a bigger wing 632 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,559 slash forward. I mean maybe they think they have the answer and Gigi Jackson, 633 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:43,760 I'm open to the concept of it, but like between him and Vince 634 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,960 Williams and Marcus Maher Desmond Baying kind of playing up, you just need like 635 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,960 more of a properly sized wing. They would still be the money getting there 636 00:36:50,079 --> 00:36:52,280 is just impossible to make work. They'd be a good Jeremy Grant team. 637 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,079 The Lakers, I still think would be a pretty good Jeremy grand team by 638 00:36:55,079 --> 00:36:58,320 the way, too, So you're probably looking at like a three for one, 639 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,239 and that's an area if they have to cut. Money is part of 640 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,480 the process too. But is that the trade you want to go on. 641 00:37:02,519 --> 00:37:07,119 I don't know that's what the Grizzies have needed since basically they decided Rudby Gay 642 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,719 was not that player. However many years ago, and he wasn't even that 643 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:15,000 player I guess when they had him, So again, I wouldn't expect him 644 00:37:15,039 --> 00:37:16,840 to make a big move. They would be would they make a move closer 645 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:21,199 to the trade deadline when they kind of know what's happening with this core They 646 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,719 just haven't seen enough of Jared Jackson Junior John Morant has been made a Marcus 647 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,440 Smart together, like you need more of that information and then let's sprinkle in 648 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:31,559 some more Vince Williams and Gigi Jackson into there. So it's a tough team 649 00:37:31,599 --> 00:37:34,800 to really say they need anything, but we know what their need is. 650 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,800 I just wouldn't expect them to even try and address it. Right now, 651 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:42,440 we're on to the Miami he who have lost Caleb Martin's. They haven't done 652 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,280 anything, but they oh, they did things. They re signed Thomas Bryant 653 00:37:45,599 --> 00:37:47,599 one year you at the minimum and Alx Burke Alec Burks, excuse me, 654 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,679 one year at the minimum. That's a really good pick up. The Burks 655 00:37:51,679 --> 00:37:54,079 one can generate his own shot, hit some catch and shoot threes, playmakes 656 00:37:54,119 --> 00:37:58,079 some gets a little tunnel vision. You'll become frustrated with him at points on 657 00:37:58,119 --> 00:38:00,719 defense. But at the minimum, that's one of the better minimum signings that 658 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:07,960 we've seen this offseason. They need like another advantage creator, but preferably one 659 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,840 with size, like or it's do you want a different type of front core 660 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:15,840 partner for Bam at a bio. It's just they can still get to Nikola 661 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,800 Yovic interesting now the way he I know people have talked about his offense, 662 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,840 the way he defended last year I thought was great. So you have him, 663 00:38:22,079 --> 00:38:23,840 you have Kevin Love, you have Haimai Hawkes, Jimmy Butler. You 664 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:28,000 move bodies around and okay, poof, you've got like a frontline partner next 665 00:38:28,039 --> 00:38:30,800 to Bam, a higher end one. That's why they're in on Larry market. 666 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,800 He would be perfect for this team. Not gonna create advantages for you 667 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:37,639 on the ball necessarily, but like so, but you could go that route, 668 00:38:37,679 --> 00:38:40,239 like someone who's just gonna open up the floor, be a good play 669 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:45,000 finisher, can do some stuff on the ball. Otherwise it's you need an 670 00:38:45,039 --> 00:38:49,039 advantage creator, but that player probably needs to have size, just because between 671 00:38:49,119 --> 00:38:52,400 Terry Rozier and Tyler Hero and Alec Burks, like, you're just not super 672 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,239 huge in those areas. And that's not Terry Rozier's strength, by the way, 673 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,119 So maybe you're exchanging one of those guards in a hypothetical trade, like 674 00:39:00,119 --> 00:39:02,519 who's the bigger Okay, advantage creator that's just going to be out there that 675 00:39:02,559 --> 00:39:06,440 you're also going to have the best trade package for. I don't have the 676 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,519 answer there, but their offense still feels like it could be spotty this year, 677 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:14,480 and that could be even worse if okay, both of Tyler hero On 678 00:39:14,559 --> 00:39:16,079 Jimmy Butler need to enjoy better health than they did last season. If you're 679 00:39:16,079 --> 00:39:20,519 only getting from one of them, the ceiling on this offense feels pretty low. 680 00:39:21,159 --> 00:39:22,760 Could they get that's not really va Like what would it cost to get 681 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:28,760 Keldon Johnson would be interesting here, but again what is like not enough on 682 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,039 ball stuff? That's and that's someone who's like, yeah, okay, the 683 00:39:30,039 --> 00:39:36,400 straight line drives and then in theory hit those off the catch threes depending on 684 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,440 like how much he actually cost to get. I wouldn't actually mind them going 685 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:45,039 after him, but that's just that's sort of their biggest need. Don't know 686 00:39:45,039 --> 00:39:46,159 what name really springs the money here. I love Larry marketing for them, 687 00:39:46,199 --> 00:39:50,679 even though I did not list that as their their biggest need. That's their 688 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,880 second though, just like let's increase the like, let's upgrade that spot that's 689 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:59,920 next to Bam from the like Nicola Jovich or Hakes, Like, let's allow 690 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,920 so I guess Jovic if you're in on him, you're fine with that. 691 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:06,440 But like, rather than having Jimmy Butler or Jaime Hawk is like the way 692 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,400 you're structuring out your lineup B or de facto fours in those scenario, can 693 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,960 you get someone else to play that role? Losing Caleb Martin's kind of big 694 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,320 there because he opened up sort of those three wing type lineups to where you 695 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:22,360 could envision that not being necessarily a huge need. The Milwaukee Bucks since we 696 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,800 last talked, they added Torrian Prince on a one year minimum. I think, 697 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:30,679 for you know, to replace like the maddening Jay Crowder minutes like, 698 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,840 that's a good approximation you're gonna be just as frustrated with Torrian Prince. I 699 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,519 trust him more as a three point shooter I think at this point than Jay 700 00:40:37,559 --> 00:40:40,880 Crowder, and he's probably okay, but not probably He's gonna be okay guarding 701 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,480 smaller type of wings, like truer wings than Drake Crowder would be. But 702 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,920 in the right matchup, Jay Crowder is probably more valuable defensively because Torrian Prince 703 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,239 isn't giving you a ton of resistance defensively. With the Bucks, though, 704 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:59,400 I mean, their biggest need still kind of feels like athleticism on the wings. 705 00:40:59,519 --> 00:41:01,119 I just I know there's been talking about trading brook Lopez, but you 706 00:41:01,119 --> 00:41:04,719 have Bobby Portis there and you can go to Giannis at the five. It's 707 00:41:05,079 --> 00:41:08,280 looking at those two three four spots as could you just get more athletic if 708 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:12,760 that player can shoot, Okay, that's a plus as well, but just 709 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:17,199 more bounce and more pop from there. So that's not something that they've done 710 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:21,639 unless you really are like a big A J. Johnson believer. Are you 711 00:41:21,679 --> 00:41:23,920 like super big believer in Tyler Smith? How much do those guys even wind 712 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:28,280 up playing. They've now added Delon Wright and Torrian Prince, though that doesn't 713 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,079 really satisfy that need, even if I think it improves the balance of their 714 00:41:30,639 --> 00:41:36,320 roster. I think Delon Wright specifically will end up helping them a pretty great 715 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:40,000 deal. The Minnesota Timberwolves a team that I think has done some really nice 716 00:41:40,039 --> 00:41:44,360 work on the margins, or at least the Rob Dillingham swing. It's a 717 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:45,400 risk, but I like the idea of, oh, they're in the second 718 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:49,800 apron, but they're still just kind of doing shit. We already mentioned Muka 719 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,639 Gars that they have Joe Ingles one year at the minimum and PJ Dozier. 720 00:41:52,679 --> 00:41:55,320 If that's an interesting flyer. I like the Joe Ingles kind of gives you 721 00:41:55,880 --> 00:42:00,559 the veteran backup playmaking element with better floors. Basically, Kyle Anderson clearly not 722 00:42:00,639 --> 00:42:06,719 as valuable defensively. This team I still worry a little bit though about its 723 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,639 wing shooting and trying to open up the floor. And that's I think, 724 00:42:09,119 --> 00:42:14,239 you know, if you're looking at Mike Conley, Anthony Edwards, Rob Dillingham 725 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,440 and then Joe Ingles, I think you could say that they have enough reserve 726 00:42:17,519 --> 00:42:20,400 playmaking even if you would like them. I mean, like, what do 727 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,679 you want them to go out and get Nick Schmith or somebody they could use, 728 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,559 Like if you could get if lukenar just falls into minimum territory, I 729 00:42:27,599 --> 00:42:30,039 don't know why Met Memphis would let that happen. That's something though, that 730 00:42:30,079 --> 00:42:32,440 he'd be a great fit for Dever'd be a great for for a bunch of 731 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:36,880 teams. I think that's my biggest concern for Minnesota. They have guys who 732 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,400 open up the floor in Mike commm they and Nas read in Karl Anthony Towns, 733 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:44,400 but their wing shooting can be shaky. Just between the Kail Alexander Walker, 734 00:42:45,079 --> 00:42:50,400 Jane McDaniels and then even Anthony Edwards himself good not great. Maybe even 735 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,400 you wouldn't even call the super dependable shooter Joeingles does give you some of that, 736 00:42:53,519 --> 00:42:57,599 But how much are you relying on a thirty seven year old Joe Ingles 737 00:42:57,639 --> 00:43:00,000 at that point to play? But this is a team that they're gonna be 738 00:43:01,599 --> 00:43:05,440 if Dynym hits, they're gonna be fucking scared. Even if he doesn't, 739 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,679 you just have the prospect of another leap from Anthony Edwards, nas Reed, 740 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,960 Ni Keele, Alexander Walker, Jade McDaniels like those are all guys that continue 741 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,840 to get better. Good time to continue buying Minnesota Timberwold stock if you had 742 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:21,599 sold it before last season. Our next team is the New Orleans Pelicans. 743 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,199 We're still waiting on the I don't think the because they now they're folding it. 744 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:28,000 We thought it was gonna have to be completed before the new league year 745 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,199 started, but that I don't think the Jontay Murray trades officially complete. But 746 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,400 you need you you couldn't go in. You would have been into the tacks 747 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,000 if you completed it before this new league year now because Jontay Murray is making 748 00:43:37,039 --> 00:43:39,960 even more close to the twenty five million dollar mark. You need to figure 749 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,320 out the additional salaries that are going to go in there. I know e 750 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,000 J with Dell started being involved, so I don't know if it has been 751 00:43:45,039 --> 00:43:47,239 announced. I but it has. I apologized, but they added de Jontay 752 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:51,159 Murray. I liked it for them. They're currently like I think, almost 753 00:43:51,159 --> 00:43:53,840 six million dollars beneath the tax They You could still make a case that they 754 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:58,519 need more complimentary shooting, but they really need a five. There's just no 755 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,960 center on this right now that you can bank on playing minutes unless you're gonna 756 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,800 lean all the way into Zion Williamson at the five. I haven't gone and 757 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:07,679 looked at all these like the way depth charts are listed on all these different 758 00:44:07,679 --> 00:44:12,519 websites. Zion Williamson is probably just listed as their starting center, which I 759 00:44:12,559 --> 00:44:17,199 mean Murray McCullum, Ingram, Trey Murphy, Herb Jones like that's enough, 760 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,639 body, So yeah, we'll just play Zion at the five. I don't 761 00:44:20,639 --> 00:44:23,039 real that you've insulated him defensively and you want to put him in a position 762 00:44:23,039 --> 00:44:27,119 to succeed because of how well he played defensively last year. I also think 763 00:44:27,159 --> 00:44:29,639 that there might be more of a wear and tear element just being in the 764 00:44:29,679 --> 00:44:32,559 five fly out, and given his injury history, you don't want to subject 765 00:44:32,599 --> 00:44:36,760 him to even more of that. It's a center and it almost needs to 766 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:40,079 happen via trade because you're looking at the centers that are gonna be available right 767 00:44:40,079 --> 00:44:44,280 now on the open market. And it's okay, Daniel Picce isn't really gonna 768 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,440 do anything for you. Like how many minutes the Mike Muscalas flowed around out 769 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:51,599 there. I don't think you're gonna fall on precious Tota range. I would 770 00:44:51,639 --> 00:44:54,199 guess that he's probably back with the Knicks at this point. Damian Jones still 771 00:44:54,199 --> 00:44:58,000 flown out there. You want to take a flyer on Javal McGee or ken 772 00:44:58,079 --> 00:45:00,480 Birch, don't you know? I don't, I don't, I don't know. 773 00:45:00,519 --> 00:45:04,519 There's just not a lot of good. The pickings are slim. If 774 00:45:04,519 --> 00:45:06,960 this was a if this was a top Tipbadau Tam I might take, like, 775 00:45:07,039 --> 00:45:09,880 just take the flyer on Josh Gibson. But yeah, so it's gonna 776 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:14,440 have to Dominic Barlow. I don't know what he would end up being. 777 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,280 And Paul Reid was just waved by the sixers too. We haven't gotten them 778 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:20,920 yet, so do either of them fall into your price range? Those might 779 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,480 be some options there. Otherwise it feels like it has to happened via trade. 780 00:45:22,599 --> 00:45:25,760 I know everybody kind of wants the Jared Allen there making the money work. 781 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:30,679 It's a little bit tougher when you look at the the players they sent 782 00:45:30,679 --> 00:45:32,519 out for de Jontay Murray. Are you trading Brandan Ingram in that deal? 783 00:45:32,679 --> 00:45:36,199 I hate his fit in Cleveland, by the way, So do you need 784 00:45:36,199 --> 00:45:37,519 a third team? There's also gonna have to be more money maybe coming back 785 00:45:37,559 --> 00:45:42,559 your way involved. So I could still see a case for like, all 786 00:45:42,639 --> 00:45:45,280 right, let's get some higher volume shooting in there. Lukenark can also be 787 00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,079 interesting, or Gary Trent Junior if he's gonna fall into their price range for 788 00:45:47,639 --> 00:45:50,440 this team. But they need a five, I mean, like they just 789 00:45:50,559 --> 00:45:52,840 they need a five, preferably one who you like them to protect the rim 790 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,639 and space the floor. But it's preferably one who's a good rim protector. 791 00:45:57,039 --> 00:46:00,239 And then can they at least create some vertical spacing. Can they set good 792 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,599 screens, but you need like a good rim protector. I would argue, 793 00:46:02,639 --> 00:46:07,760 more than more than anything next team up, the New York Knicks. I 794 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,679 guess they were gonna stick with five for them. I mean, they have 795 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:15,920 that mckail bridges trades officially completed. I would expect them to maybe bring back 796 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:17,960 pressures at you, and now they are capped at the second apron rather than 797 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,840 the first. But it's a five. I mean, I look at this 798 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,440 roster and I still say it, right, you have guys who can shoot, 799 00:46:24,639 --> 00:46:29,280 but who is like a really good high volume shooter, and it's Dante 800 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:34,079 DiVincenzo and like Randall and Brunson might be good shooters for self creators, but 801 00:46:34,119 --> 00:46:37,800 they're not these capslock shooters. Even mckel bridges is not a capslock shooter. 802 00:46:37,119 --> 00:46:40,679 I think you're just you're you're overwhelmed by the sheer breadth of talent and depth 803 00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:45,159 on this team. It doesn't matter, but a five for sure just pressure 804 00:46:45,199 --> 00:46:47,599 that you would come back. Are you with Daniel TIC's team? Are you 805 00:46:47,639 --> 00:46:51,920 a Nick Richards team? He's only making five million bucks? That might be 806 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,119 in it. You know, New Orleans is looking to go try and pull 807 00:46:53,159 --> 00:46:57,519 off a trade that someone who could maybe fit there as well too. But 808 00:46:57,599 --> 00:47:00,920 what I will say on the Knicks is that and I might have mentioned this 809 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,679 in the last podcast. I really hope that having O Jannoby, McHale Bridges, 810 00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,480 and even Josh hart factor in warms TIBs up to the idea of, 811 00:47:07,519 --> 00:47:10,639 Okay, well we can play Randall at the five without him being our defense 812 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:15,400 of five. There's the O Jannobe can play a lot of that role for 813 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:20,679 five, ten minutes, twelve minutes a game, and then Randall's your five 814 00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,599 on offense, where he's gonna be more of a mismatch if you want to 815 00:47:22,599 --> 00:47:27,119 see him set screens go like roll down hill that way, or just he's 816 00:47:27,119 --> 00:47:29,840 more of a mismatch if he's gonna attack on the ball if they have their 817 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:31,360 five on him, and if they don't like that, he's gonna be able 818 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:35,800 to maybe punish smaller mismatches. Or you have someone else, like who's the 819 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,199 five covering? Is it probably Josh Harden's the liability he'll get that five movement 820 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,679 off his feet? Is that O Jannanobe, same different, same difference to 821 00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:45,199 mcal Bridges. So not that I don't want them to sign the center. 822 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:49,880 Just having Mitchell Robinson and Jericho Simms is super risky, but I want to 823 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,000 see them get to more of those minutes. In general, we're gonna go 824 00:47:52,039 --> 00:47:58,159 to the Oklahoma City Thunder. Uh what do they need? I think they 825 00:47:58,159 --> 00:48:01,960 could still need a third player aside from a joe On Williams or Shake Gillians 826 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:06,679 Alexander. That's gonna put defenses in rotation. But it's I don't know where 827 00:48:06,679 --> 00:48:09,679 those minutes are coming from. Just full disclosure year and maybe Alex Carusoe or 828 00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:13,599 Cason Wallace can get there a little bit. I know a lot of Thunder 829 00:48:13,639 --> 00:48:16,199 fans like we've been developing Uzmanjang as a ball handler. Defenses don't care about 830 00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:20,800 that, and we didn't see enough for I love Usmanjang people listening to the 831 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,719 podcast. No, I don't think he's gonna be your answer for next season. 832 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:27,119 The answer might be, are we gonna put the ball in Chet Holmgren's 833 00:48:27,159 --> 00:48:30,159 hands more? And do we have Isaiah Hartenstein screening for him or just in 834 00:48:30,159 --> 00:48:32,280 the five out setup? Is he gonna be able to do more creation? 835 00:48:32,559 --> 00:48:37,159 I also just recognize you're going to get better name I mentioned Cason Wallers, 836 00:48:37,159 --> 00:48:38,480 someone who can get better on the ball. Jay On Williams not done going 837 00:48:38,519 --> 00:48:43,519 at all, Shaglin Lexander can still get better nitpicking here because they have just 838 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,719 they have every fucking thing. Like I just this team is probably now with 839 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:51,880 the aosition of Hartenstein aside from the Celtics, might be the most complete team 840 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:53,440 in the league when you're looking at the balance playing, being able to play 841 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:59,159 different styles and like a glit like just the relative lack of weaknesses. I 842 00:48:59,199 --> 00:49:01,920 think it has to be that Boston's first, and they will be until proven 843 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,840 otherwise. But the Nuggets, no, they've been demoted from that discussion. 844 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,400 Maybe the Mavericks, who ironically have sort of the same type of need, 845 00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:13,360 but their defense, I think specifically around the perimeter, is a little bit 846 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,960 more shaky there. Now we're on to the Orlando Magic. I don't know 847 00:49:17,159 --> 00:49:22,119 that I've turned on a team's offseason more quickly than I have. For the 848 00:49:22,159 --> 00:49:23,599 Magic. I don't hate it, but I was prepared for it to be 849 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:29,960 spectacular once they signed contagious called La Pope from Denver and then it's just been 850 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:31,880 what we're going to retain our own guys. I think, look, they 851 00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:35,800 elevated Johnathan and Isaac Salary. I think they looks like they're starting him at 852 00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,800 twenty six point nine millions almost twenty seven million next year, and then it 853 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:43,440 declines from there. So they renegotiated it in amounts to five years and eighty 854 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,559 four million in total. That's gonna make them a lot more flexible as they 855 00:49:46,639 --> 00:49:52,119 start to They signed Franz Wagner to that max extension tow hundred twenty four point 856 00:49:52,119 --> 00:49:54,280 two million, with language that could take it to if he makes all NBA 857 00:49:54,679 --> 00:49:59,119 up above two hundred and sixty nine. They resigned more Wagner as well with 858 00:49:59,119 --> 00:50:01,559 two years twenty two MILLI million dollar deal. I get what they're doing, 859 00:50:02,079 --> 00:50:06,679 and like there's internal growth from Suggs, from Wagner, from Ben Carol, 860 00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,719 you're gonna get. I want to see him get a higher end offensive organizer 861 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:14,360 or just someone who did some of that stuff will just adding a ton of 862 00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,800 shooting. I think KCP in motion as a shooter in general. I know 863 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:22,000 his clip fell off, but he's someone defenses will respect. That satisfies some 864 00:50:22,039 --> 00:50:23,239 of the role. But I don't know if you've opened up the floor nearly 865 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:29,079 enough here and you have not given yourself enough proven just floor general juice at 866 00:50:29,079 --> 00:50:31,000 this point, maybe you're gonna rely on Wagner or Sugs to just do more 867 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:32,840 of that. They're making the leap or is this gonna I don't think the 868 00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:37,360 team is better set up to necessarily give Anthony Black more minutes and work against 869 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:42,119 his spacing limitations. But I haven't hated any of their individual moves though. 870 00:50:42,159 --> 00:50:44,920 The Johnathan Isaac want is just a smart piece of business. He goes from 871 00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:46,159 he's gonna make a twenty seven million next year, he'll drop all the way 872 00:50:46,159 --> 00:50:50,679 back down to about sixteen point two. Then he's at fourteen point nine, 873 00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,360 then thirteen, then twelve point three in twenty twenty eight, twenty twenty nine. 874 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,440 This is someone who's only twenty seven, so you're talking about like he's 875 00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,760 gonna be in his early thirties. That could end up being a steal. 876 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,800 I assume there's some story but reprotections on this. I have not seen any 877 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:04,320 of it yet, So I like what they've done. They should still be 878 00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,519 a defensive beast. The floor will be a little bit more open. However, 879 00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,679 I really wanted to see them be more aggressive just on the trade market 880 00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:14,800 or for like why not even like this could have been maybe un spectacular, 881 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,800 but a Tias Jones team, so that would have been nice. Offseason is 882 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:21,199 not over, but that is still just their biggest need is someone to organize 883 00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,920 the offense who preferably won't shrink the floor in the process. We are on 884 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:29,159 too, the Philadelphia seventy six ers, who have done some stuff since we 885 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,400 last talked. Well, did one thing and that's added Kayla Martin on a 886 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:35,719 four year deal worth more than thirty two million dollars. Then they wave Paul 887 00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,880 Reid, so they're basically just unless something changes signing Kayla Martin into space. 888 00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:45,719 Look, they've assembled a real roster around the big three of Joel Embiid, 889 00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:51,119 Paul George and Tyrese Maxi, having Kelly Ubray, having Andre Drummond. Eric 890 00:51:51,119 --> 00:51:53,280 Gordon will see how many minutes that he's able to play there, so there's 891 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,679 still work for them to be done. I would expect Kyle Lowry to be 892 00:51:55,760 --> 00:52:00,079 back on this team probably, but if their roster a lot more than I 893 00:52:00,159 --> 00:52:02,719 kind of thought I was going to, I think the Kayler Martin sn is 894 00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:07,440 actually huge. Their biggest need, I still think would be like a four 895 00:52:07,639 --> 00:52:12,800 combo forward type between Kayla Martin and Paul George and Kelly Oubrey. You're able 896 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,679 to build that together into like a two three four rotation. But I would 897 00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:21,039 like to see someone more of a you know, pulling off a Doring Finny 898 00:52:21,039 --> 00:52:22,800 Smith deal before midseason. That's just not gonna happen. Now. I'd like 899 00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,679 to see more of a body that goes there right with like a true not 900 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:30,119 doesn't have to be a pure forward multi position, but like if you're having 901 00:52:30,159 --> 00:52:32,480 all I'll say this way, if you're having Paul George or Kayleb Martin defend 902 00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:36,519 the four, they're playing up, So you want someone who's a four that 903 00:52:36,519 --> 00:52:38,360 can maybe play down would be the best way to phrase it. That's not 904 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:43,599 exactly the smallest Like that's not exactly the smallest ask and they're not just gonna 905 00:52:43,599 --> 00:52:45,079 get it. I mean, Javonte Green be an ice flyer on the team. 906 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:49,480 Maybe you bring back kJ Martin for that, you take a shot at 907 00:52:49,559 --> 00:52:52,599 Jay Crowder doesn't really you know, satisfy the defending down thing. And if 908 00:52:52,639 --> 00:52:55,280 they're not, they don't have to defend down, although Larry marketing it would 909 00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:59,159 fit. I just kind of wonder, now you can't get there if Larry 910 00:52:59,159 --> 00:53:01,280 market is still floating around mid season, and there is if they renegotiate, 911 00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:06,159 what makes it tougher If they don't renegotiate and extend him, Like the Sixers 912 00:53:06,159 --> 00:53:07,960 could still do something along those lines, and maybe you're working like a mega 913 00:53:08,199 --> 00:53:12,440 kJ Martin signing trade. At this point, you just have five tradable first 914 00:53:12,519 --> 00:53:15,280 round picks, so there are still things that they can do. There will 915 00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:19,880 be some salary cap hoops that they have to jump through now, but yeah, 916 00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,719 just someone like in that Vein. I don't know, like do you 917 00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,599 bring Robert Conington back. Marcus Morris can maybe do some of that for you. 918 00:53:25,639 --> 00:53:29,119 But that's we're talking signings now, Like that's what you're looking at after 919 00:53:29,159 --> 00:53:31,000 the major work you've done. Love the Kayleb Martin signing for them. I 920 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:35,679 think we'll see a better outside shooting performance from him this year, and he 921 00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:39,320 gives them a lot of defensive optionality, which just Paul George, Kaylen Martin 922 00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:45,159 and Joel Embiid, you've kind of built out the skeleton of which would be 923 00:53:45,199 --> 00:53:47,599 a really good defense, but it is kind of contingent upon. Right. 924 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,599 Everyone needs to be healthy and on nights this drum and do enough. If 925 00:53:51,599 --> 00:53:53,320 em Bead's not playing or if he's hurt, what does that do to your 926 00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:57,519 defense? I don't know how well, they're set up to navigate that situation 927 00:53:57,559 --> 00:54:01,840 at the moment. Next team would be the Phoenix Suns. They've added Monte 928 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:05,679 Morre's one year at the minimum. Actually think given their turnover issues, especially 929 00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:07,760 in the fourth quarter, that becomes pretty big. I know, he hasn't 930 00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,679 been healthy or great for a couple of years. And then they resigned Damian 931 00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:13,440 Lee, which also means that they're probably not resigning Josha Kogi, which I 932 00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,800 think is a good thing for them. The Joshacogy experiment did not work out 933 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:21,239 their biggest need. I think it's just you need to revamp the five man 934 00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,559 rotation to get someone who's more in line with what Mike Budenholzer likes to do. 935 00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:28,119 I know you have Mason Plumley, you have a use of Nurkice. 936 00:54:28,159 --> 00:54:30,039 Maybe see some minutes as bull bull like, just be the rim protector. 937 00:54:30,039 --> 00:54:32,760 You're not a good defender, but you're big, you're long. Just be 938 00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:37,719 the rim protector. There are pathways if they could rope in like a third 939 00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,960 and fourth team, because I don't think the Blazers want Nurkice, Like rolling 940 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,039 the Ice and Robert Williams the third here I think would be a really good 941 00:54:45,039 --> 00:54:47,000 bet for them, but they need and I don't think that like maybe even 942 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:51,239 a Nick Richards via trade as the name I mentioned for them a bunch. 943 00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,119 I'd like to just see someone who I think fits the motif of one as 944 00:54:54,119 --> 00:55:00,360 a screener and diver more uh, but also just defensively, not just because 945 00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:04,000 Buttonholeszer is there, but a stronger option defensively at the center spot and right 946 00:55:04,039 --> 00:55:07,960 now, like you really don't don't have it, so like we're gonna play 947 00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,639 Kevin Durant at the five or like I said, Bulbuls the primary rip protector 948 00:55:10,079 --> 00:55:15,440 inspiring at best. Think that's very clearly there their biggest need. I don't 949 00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:16,679 know what else do you want to I guess two way wings, but that's 950 00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:21,360 just like I mean, you got Damian Lee back that's got to count for 951 00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,440 something, and you have Grace Grace that was probably more two way than people 952 00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:29,159 realize last year, so that would be that just feels so unreally two way 953 00:55:29,199 --> 00:55:30,519 wings, Like, yeah, this team that can only offer the minimums doesn't 954 00:55:30,519 --> 00:55:38,760 really have anything to trade that'll definitely work out the Portland Trailblazers, So fewer 955 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:42,639 centers maybe, like is that what they need at this point. But in 956 00:55:42,639 --> 00:55:45,239 all honesty, like I think I would continue to want to just see shooting, 957 00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:47,079 and I don't really care the position that it comes at, just because 958 00:55:47,079 --> 00:55:50,840 you have so much equity tied up in the back court. Can the shooting 959 00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,199 come in sword of the three or the four spot where yeah, okay, 960 00:55:53,199 --> 00:55:57,800 you might be infringing upon some sharp or Simon minutes there or Tible minutes or 961 00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,199 Jeremy Grant minutes, but you're not gonna you don't like you just have enough 962 00:56:00,199 --> 00:56:04,519 bodies at the five and resigned are not coming there. You also could say 963 00:56:04,559 --> 00:56:07,880 they have Denny Avdia now and just between with Simons, do you want like 964 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:12,719 sort of another backup type of point guard in this like Portland, just continuing 965 00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,559 to punt on the idea of like a true backup floor general. I think 966 00:56:15,559 --> 00:56:17,559 Deny Avia probably gives you enough as sort of a driver and playmaker there, 967 00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,639 but he has an upgrade you're shooting enough. He's probably a shooting improvement over 968 00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:28,400 what you're fielding last year. But like just there's a lot of question marks 969 00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,079 here. You're not gonna get any as of right now. Spacing at the 970 00:56:30,119 --> 00:56:34,599 five. You have to Monty Kamara kind of shot better from three last year. 971 00:56:34,639 --> 00:56:36,840 I think a lot of people realize, but like a shaky jumper there 972 00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,679 Maatistai bole, same difference. Even if you're banking on sort of Chris Murray, 973 00:56:40,199 --> 00:56:44,039 like taking a jump and shade and sharp, you know, taking a 974 00:56:44,119 --> 00:56:46,880 jump and you have Simon's This team just needs like someone who's gonna help get 975 00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:50,239 their three point attempt right up there or just be able to. They have 976 00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,840 a few guys who are either better off or most used to working on ball, 977 00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:58,119 and so can we get some just more guys to dot them around there? 978 00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:00,639 I did not mention du operation. It's like, yeah, you can 979 00:57:00,679 --> 00:57:02,480 get some floor spacing in the front court that way, I just some higher 980 00:57:02,559 --> 00:57:06,320 volume stuff there. Would feel like it's going to be their biggest need. 981 00:57:07,079 --> 00:57:09,119 The Sacramento Kings, who I mean, they be the team that feels like 982 00:57:09,119 --> 00:57:13,880 it's most likely gonna date this. They're pursuing a Demartin Rosen sign and train 983 00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:15,599 with the Bulls. I'm not gonna pretend to love it. I don't hate 984 00:57:15,639 --> 00:57:19,599 it. They could certainly use someone else to break down defenses and be a 985 00:57:19,599 --> 00:57:23,800 primary playmaker. That's just like, so are you just never gonna play him 986 00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:28,880 with the bonus or de Aaron Fox because the spacing could get wonky there. 987 00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:31,000 And then if you're training Kevin Herder part of that deal, you're becoming a 988 00:57:31,039 --> 00:57:36,079 worst shooting team. And like the floor basing isn't super perfect, Like who 989 00:57:36,119 --> 00:57:37,840 are the shooters you're counting on aside from Herder? I know he's working off 990 00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,639 a down year, but it's Kevin Herder. You have to go buy the 991 00:57:40,679 --> 00:57:45,880 previous sample, not just what happened last year. So I guess Harrison Barnes 992 00:57:45,079 --> 00:57:49,480 and Keegan Murray and Kean ellis. Like, if we're not including Kevin Hurder 993 00:57:49,519 --> 00:57:52,440 there, there's just not enough. So I prefer to see them just get 994 00:57:52,519 --> 00:57:57,119 some more optionality on those wing spots in the form of someone who can shoot. 995 00:57:57,159 --> 00:58:00,480 I don't I understand the need. Yeah, you a playmaking would be 996 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,559 ideal, But Denny Aviy and Michale Bridges have been traded, so you're not 997 00:58:02,599 --> 00:58:07,440 going to see You're not just going to see those players readily available. The 998 00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,920 case have been linked to Larry marketing. I like his fit a lot better 999 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:13,840 than I like the the Rosans fit. I'd like to just see them open 1000 00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:15,960 up the floor more. And there's I don't know that you need to skew 1001 00:58:16,519 --> 00:58:20,559 as defense heavy as you might have would have. I just think the leap 1002 00:58:20,639 --> 00:58:23,519 that King and Murray has made, you'll probably get enough if you finagle your 1003 00:58:23,559 --> 00:58:28,079 matchups the right way with Harrison Barnes, because you have Kean Allis as well, 1004 00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:31,360 It's like that feels like maybe there's enough there to do something where it's 1005 00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,960 if you could just continue to open the floor. Let's not forget Devin Carter 1006 00:58:35,079 --> 00:58:37,960 cut his teeth defensively, so I don't know how much he plays a rookie 1007 00:58:37,039 --> 00:58:39,880 coming in, but that's someone who might be able to take on some really 1008 00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:45,920 tough assignments for you. And going hurder for Demarto Rosen is just so counterintuitive 1009 00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:47,559 to opening up the floor even more. And it comes back to the challenges 1010 00:58:47,599 --> 00:58:52,920 I think of, not you know, LAMPOOTI him as a player or building 1011 00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,119 block, but that is part of the challenge of building around so bonus even 1012 00:58:55,159 --> 00:58:58,519 Darren Fox a little bit when those are your main two and neither of them 1013 00:58:58,519 --> 00:59:00,280 are perfect shooters. But Aaron Fox, you know, he can hit some 1014 00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:02,440 off the dribble looks and we'll stretch the floor. That is not what the 1015 00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:06,480 bonus is gonna do to add to Marta Rosen into that fold. It's just 1016 00:59:07,239 --> 00:59:09,719 it's shaky. I don't hate it. I might like it more if Harrison 1017 00:59:09,719 --> 00:59:15,320 Barnes was the outgoing money rather than Kevin Herder. So I get the theory 1018 00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:19,320 of what Demarta Rosen would do for this team. I just don't love what 1019 00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:22,599 the spacing might look like after said deal happens, And so i'd like to 1020 00:59:22,639 --> 00:59:25,239 see them open up the floor. Maybe I'm already kind of like in Demarta 1021 00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:28,679 Rosen as a king mode, and that's why I'm all, That's why I'm 1022 00:59:28,679 --> 00:59:31,800 already here the San Antonio Spurs. Yeah, wa, I think it's wing 1023 00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:36,559 shooting for them. I just you have Chris Paul, you have Trey Jones. 1024 00:59:36,599 --> 00:59:38,119 So I'm gonna say that they're fine at the floor general spot. Now. 1025 00:59:38,719 --> 00:59:42,239 I would like to see them also just get a little bit better with 1026 00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,079 that primary front course spot next tomb. Is it gonna be Kelden Johnson's the 1027 00:59:45,119 --> 00:59:50,800 Jeremy Sowen playing a bunch of minutes there. I don't know, But are 1028 00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:52,480 eight of those guys good enough shooters to kind of open up the floor? 1029 00:59:52,559 --> 00:59:55,719 So you have, like I mean, when you're looking at your plus shooters. 1030 00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,559 I guess you could win me at the five. Will call him a 1031 00:59:58,599 --> 01:00:01,360 plus shooter. Denvessell, Well, okay, there, that's like it. 1032 01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:05,000 I don't know what you want to consider, Chris Paul. It's certainly not 1033 01:00:05,079 --> 01:00:08,480 Trey Jones, Keldon Johnson, so and Brandham like those are all just even 1034 01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:12,119 Stephan Castle coming in like that. We're talking about a lot of guys with 1035 01:00:12,159 --> 01:00:15,679 limited range. The idea of z that Collins might maybe give you some shooting, 1036 01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:17,280 so they would be They've been linked to Larry Marketing, and I think 1037 01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:22,280 they're my favorite Larry Marketing team. Uh, just the Thunder, I guess 1038 01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,719 could still be like at the Thunder of my everyone my favorite team for everybody 1039 01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:30,440 apparently, but like or even just like, could they get Trey Lyles from 1040 01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:32,440 the Kings, like just someone to kind of open up, like more people 1041 01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:37,119 to open up the floor here? And I just don't like there's not enough 1042 01:00:37,119 --> 01:00:38,599 of it. Keldon Johnson's coming off a down year as a shooter. Maybe 1043 01:00:38,599 --> 01:00:42,800 with Chris Paul like now with forty eight minutes so to speak, or let's 1044 01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,480 say forty minutes of good point guard play, but like Brandham is not proven 1045 01:00:45,559 --> 01:00:50,880 enough as a shooter that's not going to be We'll see how even like any 1046 01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:52,320 minutes he's going to get But like a Blake Wesley, that's not going to 1047 01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:55,639 be his strength. It's not Jeremy Soone's strength. So it's really just Devin 1048 01:00:55,960 --> 01:01:00,440 like to count on is let's be reasonable about their shooting. I will give 1049 01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:05,079 it to Chris Paul. I'll throw Kelvin Johnson in there for selling Wemby. 1050 01:01:05,159 --> 01:01:07,719 And it's just like, how many of those are just guaranteed to shoot thirty 1051 01:01:07,719 --> 01:01:12,599 seven percent or better on five plus three point attempts per game. Of the 1052 01:01:12,639 --> 01:01:15,719 group I just mentioned, probably Wemby and Masel are the most likely picks. 1053 01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:17,679 And so if you want to include Collins or Mamu in there as one of 1054 01:01:17,679 --> 01:01:22,280 the guys who could theoretically space the floor, fine, I think it needs 1055 01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:23,760 to come from the wing spots. More is what I would like to see 1056 01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:27,800 from San Antonio. And look, I'll count lowry marketing. He could play 1057 01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:30,079 four to three, especially next to wen Minyama. That's just absolutely that's absolutely 1058 01:01:30,079 --> 01:01:34,199 perfect. So the Spurs want to trade for marketing and they have my blessing. 1059 01:01:34,239 --> 01:01:37,360 I know everyone was a little bit worried about that the Toronto Raptors. 1060 01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:40,280 I think they still need a like it's such a weird place to be. 1061 01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,440 How many times I gotta say that about the Raptors, Like, can we 1062 01:01:43,519 --> 01:01:46,800 get a like a like an actual wing here, like a true wing? 1063 01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:50,440 Is RJ. Barrett okay? Sized like a wing? Grady dig size like 1064 01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:52,480 a wing? Are they? R J. Bereck comes closest to actualizing the 1065 01:01:52,519 --> 01:01:55,639 wing part. It's not a Bajie. It's not Bruce Brown. Maybe you 1066 01:01:55,679 --> 01:02:00,280 think it's Jacobe Walter. How much does he play? They need him more 1067 01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:06,480 proven like wing and probably someone who could shoot. They probably someone who's gonna 1068 01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:10,880 guarantee them more half court just shooting than n RJ. Barrett or not Baji 1069 01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:15,400 like Grady Dick is there? Okay? And you have quickly And let's assume 1070 01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,480 that Barnes is gonna continue to improve because he's Barnes, Like, you need 1071 01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:20,559 another type of wing and I don't even know they don't even need to be 1072 01:02:20,599 --> 01:02:23,039 capslocked, like I'll continue to mention him. Just give me Dorry and Phinney 1073 01:02:23,039 --> 01:02:25,280 Smith on this team. At this point. I would have loved when they 1074 01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:30,000 had the cap flexibility. I thought so Mony font Techio was a great potential 1075 01:02:30,039 --> 01:02:34,119 addition for them. Maybe they could still evaluate some sign and trade scenarios because 1076 01:02:34,119 --> 01:02:36,960 Detroit stacking up on all these shooters who are not Somonny font Techio, but 1077 01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:40,039 they're also trying to work with his smaller cap hold not moral the story. 1078 01:02:40,039 --> 01:02:44,480 I don't think it's a realistic option. Can they go at like a Luke 1079 01:02:44,519 --> 01:02:45,559 Kenard on this team would make a lot of sense. I don't know what 1080 01:02:45,599 --> 01:02:49,760 his market is. He's got so much tunnel vision on this roster. They 1081 01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:54,079 probably need someone who's gonna be not more plug and play, but at least 1082 01:02:54,079 --> 01:02:58,840 not kind of actively hurt you on offense with this tunnel vision. So Gary 1083 01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:01,559 Trent Junior's return is kind of out, and I would say a properly sized 1084 01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:06,239 three that's doing a lot of these things, and that's not Gary Trunchy. 1085 01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:09,119 You're six five around there. That's not going to be his bag. I 1086 01:03:09,159 --> 01:03:13,159 did mention new Canard, but that's not going to solve that either. And 1087 01:03:13,239 --> 01:03:15,320 they're not going to be a team that gives up assets in a trade at 1088 01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:17,559 this point, Like I think they've kind of shown their hand as we're gonna 1089 01:03:17,559 --> 01:03:21,519 take a little bit more of a gradual approach here, But it might just 1090 01:03:21,559 --> 01:03:23,159 come down to, oh, can they take flyers on someone? Again, 1091 01:03:23,199 --> 01:03:27,639 I don't think that player's out there in free agency. Look, you put 1092 01:03:27,679 --> 01:03:30,440 some mony fon Techy on this team. I'm on in if you could get 1093 01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:34,159 there, Are you a team that's gonna try and like, do you become 1094 01:03:34,159 --> 01:03:37,400 a Gordon Hayward team? I just eh, that'd be interesting. I think 1095 01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:38,920 Gordon Hayward at this point, like if he's getting a minimum from someone, 1096 01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:42,360 that'd just be interesting. If you try and take a flyer on, like 1097 01:03:42,519 --> 01:03:45,719 rehabilitating, what's Joe Harris? Like, how is his body looking these days? 1098 01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:51,039 Chimokk Is that someone that you could like take a flyer on whose career 1099 01:03:51,079 --> 01:03:53,159 has just been derailed by injuries and never really played a ton He's shown flashes 1100 01:03:53,199 --> 01:03:59,880 and in Orlando. So I don't know. I just that's like then, 1101 01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:03,239 I just don't expect them to like actively do anything about it. As some 1102 01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:08,639 quick breaking news, Demarti Rosen Persham's is traveling to meet the Kings and Sacramento 1103 01:04:08,719 --> 01:04:11,679 this weekend. The Kings are in serious pursuit of him. Everything I said 1104 01:04:11,719 --> 01:04:13,880 still holds true. So if he goes to the Kings, that won't take 1105 01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:17,400 this podcast, so can be kind of planning ahead here our next team, 1106 01:04:17,519 --> 01:04:20,559 and we're getting towards the end here, folks. We have the Utah Jazz. 1107 01:04:21,199 --> 01:04:26,320 They need to figure out they could probably use fewer like Center Force too. 1108 01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:28,760 I don't know, like it was it really necessary for them to go 1109 01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:31,760 out there and sign Drew you beecks. I just don't understand they still need 1110 01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:35,119 wings, especially if just like you know, they have Cody Williams, who 1111 01:04:35,119 --> 01:04:38,079 we all know. I love Cody Williams. I hope he plays a shit 1112 01:04:38,159 --> 01:04:40,519 ton. That also might be the benefit of trading marketing as you open up 1113 01:04:40,519 --> 01:04:43,880 minutes for him, maybe for Bryce s and Sabah. Those guys aren't wings. 1114 01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,519 Tell Hendrix not a wing, Kyle Philipalski not a wing, Darius Basley 1115 01:04:46,599 --> 01:04:49,079 not a wing. They just need wings. And if you can get that 1116 01:04:49,159 --> 01:04:53,360 as part of the like if you were able to get if I'm the heat 1117 01:04:53,559 --> 01:05:00,320 and they were just like first round pick Salary and Himai Hawkes for l marketing 1118 01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:02,880 in I don't know that I'm saying no right out of the gate as Miami, 1119 01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:05,360 but like, if you're able to get a prospect along those lines, 1120 01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:11,079 just another wing you older type wing player. The Spurs. They're not gonna 1121 01:05:11,079 --> 01:05:13,880 give you Devin to sell. I probably count Jeremy so In here like he 1122 01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:16,480 can play like he could guard of course to four positions at this point, 1123 01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:20,199 so I would count him if you end up getting him from from San Antonio. 1124 01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:23,400 Uh, they were linked to Miami, so i'd be a Hi May 1125 01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:26,239 Hawke is there. I don't know which other I mean a bunch of other 1126 01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:29,239 teams should be showing interest. I'm just trying to think of, like where 1127 01:05:29,239 --> 01:05:31,559 do you look at would would New Orleans we want to give up either a 1128 01:05:31,599 --> 01:05:34,320 Herb Jones or a Tredy Murphy for him if they do marketing wanted to stick 1129 01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:39,199 around And we're saying marketing and zion Ar or front Court's or if you're getting 1130 01:05:39,239 --> 01:05:42,559 brandon Ingram in that scenario, I don't think that that's someone who's if you're 1131 01:05:42,559 --> 01:05:45,800 trading Larry market In, you're not interested in the brandon Ingram route. So 1132 01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:49,920 you're trying to think of like teams y Marketing and Memphis would be super interesting. 1133 01:05:50,039 --> 01:05:54,800 What if you just built something around Gig Jackson and money just you have 1134 01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:58,960 to be Marcus Smart's money at that point, does that do anything for Utah 1135 01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:00,719 like that you can talk you can talk to me to that. I mean, 1136 01:06:01,159 --> 01:06:05,920 Houston's got wing prospects to spare, But like, if you're getting marketed 1137 01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:10,239 and planning on paying him, you're basically saying that Jabari Smith or Shang Goon 1138 01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:13,320 isn't long And I guess that would be Shane Goon in that instance. Maybe 1139 01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:17,039 I mean is that like, is like would you do Shang Good? I 1140 01:06:17,119 --> 01:06:23,159 just I don't know, like Shang Goon and either Easan or Cam Whitmore as 1141 01:06:23,239 --> 01:06:28,199 part of the like marketing train, because it doesn't seem like Houston's totally sold 1142 01:06:28,239 --> 01:06:31,079 on Shane Good and the Jazz have enough bigs, but they're clearly not sold 1143 01:06:31,239 --> 01:06:34,599 John Collins whatever. They're clearly not sold on Walker Kessler. They want like 1144 01:06:34,639 --> 01:06:39,400 a younger big that they can run their offense through. I don't know that 1145 01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:41,400 I love it. I don't know that I hate it either. Could you 1146 01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:45,400 get of course there's Kaminga from Golden State that might come close to wing prospect 1147 01:06:45,519 --> 01:06:47,880 or if you're just taking picks in that package, then definitely get Moses Moody. 1148 01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:51,119 Someone free Moses Moody. Nice target for Toronto would be I think he 1149 01:06:51,119 --> 01:06:55,119 would fit really nicely there. He fit really nicely on a lot of teams 1150 01:06:55,159 --> 01:06:58,119 actually, So yeah, finding like you need to. I think the goal 1151 01:06:58,199 --> 01:07:01,679 needs to be to get a wing prospect back in whatever Larry Marketing trade you're 1152 01:07:01,719 --> 01:07:06,039 making. And I just like, there are teams that we just went through, 1153 01:07:06,079 --> 01:07:10,239 okay that maybe they end up there. I'm like, they could give 1154 01:07:10,239 --> 01:07:12,920 you that. Excuse me. I don't know if there are any others that 1155 01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:15,119 I'm missing here, Like Denver could give you a wing and Michael Porter Junior 1156 01:07:15,119 --> 01:07:19,239 don't know that you want him, but Larry Marketing in Denver. It's just 1157 01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:23,760 like if he replaces Michael Porter Junior willing to give up Payton Watson in that 1158 01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:27,800 scenario, money gets all sorts of crazy. But the Jazz have a ton 1159 01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:30,880 of cap space. You would have to include your twenty thirty one pick. 1160 01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:32,719 I think would you do that? I don't think Utah would do that, 1161 01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:35,360 But like Michael Porter Junior is a talent flyer, you probably need to give 1162 01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:39,880 up two of your young guys to pick in addition to Michael Porter junior salary. 1163 01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:42,239 I don't even know if that moves Utah. I'm gonna tell you right 1164 01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:46,639 Now, if it was Brown, Watson and a pick and then Michael Porter 1165 01:07:46,719 --> 01:07:50,519 Junior for Larry Market and I'm probably not doing it because Brown and it would 1166 01:07:50,559 --> 01:07:54,519 have to be like, you can have one of those guys and it can't 1167 01:07:54,519 --> 01:07:57,239 be Brown. I don't think the Brown is too important to this team now, 1168 01:07:57,239 --> 01:08:00,719 So it could be Watson if you want Strawther and the first and Michael 1169 01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:05,760 Porter Jr. I'm doing it. I mean Aaron Gordon, Nakoleokachen Liary marketing. 1170 01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:11,079 That's fucking nasty frontline. That is a nasty for those are all dudes 1171 01:08:11,119 --> 01:08:13,679 who could really play the five and a pinch too. I don't think they 1172 01:08:13,719 --> 01:08:16,039 have the assets. I'm just spitballing here. If you wanted to go that 1173 01:08:16,199 --> 01:08:21,680 route, and we are on to our final team, which is the Washington 1174 01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:27,880 Wizards, I still want to see them get and I'm maybe bub Carrington ends 1175 01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:31,000 up being this guy, just a younger four general type. You have Brogden 1176 01:08:31,239 --> 01:08:34,319 on this team already, and I guess you could say that they're a wittle 1177 01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:39,800 a wittle, a little bit wing lighter after giving up Denny AVVII and so 1178 01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:42,279 it's okay you have Kuzma, but are they eventually gonna trade him, and 1179 01:08:42,279 --> 01:08:46,079 then it's Blockhoula Bali and after that it's Corey Kisbert h But i'd yeah, 1180 01:08:46,119 --> 01:08:49,399 I'm gonna go with I'd like to see him try to chase a playmaker that 1181 01:08:49,399 --> 01:08:54,399 they can maybe evaluate against the future. I loved, I mean for them 1182 01:08:54,399 --> 01:08:57,079 and even Brooklyn was a team I mentioned, And maybe he becomes available at 1183 01:08:57,079 --> 01:08:59,960 the trade deadline. I just don't know who you have now that, okay, 1184 01:09:00,159 --> 01:09:02,720 he would want. But I loved Aaron Wiggins for this team. Maybe 1185 01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:06,640 that's something Brooklyn could look at if okay, see still wants to look at 1186 01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:10,520 Cam Johnson or Dorrian Phinny Smith And don't really don't think they do. I 1187 01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:15,840 think they're shooting higher than that. So I like just a younger primary playmaker 1188 01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:17,159 type. Again, I want to see bub Carrington get a ton of minutes. 1189 01:09:17,199 --> 01:09:23,239 Tias Jones could theoretically still be back here, but like, I would 1190 01:09:23,319 --> 01:09:25,600 like to see him go that route. I'm trying to look at names though 1191 01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:28,600 at the moment, to see just like, are there even any flyer types, 1192 01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:30,479 like could you get a train man from Charlotte? Are they kind of 1193 01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:34,119 willing to not give up on him? But give you him, what could 1194 01:09:34,119 --> 01:09:36,239 you do with the Knicks, Like, what are you facilitating there to get 1195 01:09:36,279 --> 01:09:41,800 Deuce McBride a flyer on him? You're not gonna get Jalen Pickett from Jaydon 1196 01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:44,319 Hardy would be great, but I think he's really important to what Dallas is 1197 01:09:44,359 --> 01:09:47,560 doing now. If they're like they do have other salaries, if they wanted 1198 01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:50,279 to look at you would be pretty small here. But if they wanted to 1199 01:09:50,319 --> 01:09:54,560 look at bringing in Brogden, that's a route that you could go and maybe 1200 01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:57,319 you get Jayden Hardy as part of that. I don't hate that. And 1201 01:09:57,359 --> 01:10:01,039 so your salaries there or just like you have Ye Powell and Maxi Kliba, 1202 01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:04,119 like those are your kind of your primary salaries, and then jayde and Hardy 1203 01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:10,000 is in there. You're kind of bit You're you're leaving it awfully small at 1204 01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:13,520 that point. But I don't think that that's especially if you're willing to incrude 1205 01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:16,039 Olivier Maxon's prosper as just well, if you're giving up Jane Hardy, I 1206 01:10:16,039 --> 01:10:18,680 probably wouldn't do that. But Jane Ardy from Dallas, maybe they don't view 1207 01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:21,840 him as as important as long as Luca Doncis and Kyrie everything there he was 1208 01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:25,239 playing by the end of the playoffs, but that would be a name. 1209 01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:28,199 Uh, they're just you're not gonna give up the equity. If even if 1210 01:10:28,239 --> 01:10:30,520 Detroit wants to get rid of jayde and Ivy, they would be I don't 1211 01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:33,840 like the salary matches here gets weird, and I don't know what Chicago wants, 1212 01:10:34,199 --> 01:10:38,159 but like they would be just like Lonzo Ball, that'd be a fun 1213 01:10:38,199 --> 01:10:40,880 team to be. Okay, let's just see what his knees have left. 1214 01:10:41,119 --> 01:10:45,039 I just to get to you could get to well, they're they're so cheap 1215 01:10:45,119 --> 01:10:46,479 with all the other stuff. I mean, you could send them Brogden. 1216 01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:49,279 Is it a three team trade where you're sending Brogden somewhere and you're just getting 1217 01:10:49,319 --> 01:10:53,800 Lonzo Ball and maybe something else, and then another team's taking on Brogden and 1218 01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:58,399 sending something to the Bulls because their money is would I don't think the Bulls 1219 01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:00,720 want Jordan Poole. And after that, you're not giving up Kyle Kuzman on 1220 01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:03,680 a Lonzo Ball trade unless it's again a third team. You're gonna back a 1221 01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:05,920 shit ton of stuff. They would be a fun just and if you're going 1222 01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:09,800 through teams that would be worth just all right, let's just kind of see 1223 01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:13,720 what happens with the Lonzo ball situation. I would throw Charlotte as a team 1224 01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:15,720 that'd be like, okay, like, yeah, why not. I wouldn't 1225 01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:18,640 hate it for Detroit just to take that flyer. I would, like I 1226 01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:21,439 said, I would not hate it for Washington probably like the teams that would 1227 01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:26,880 have the flexibility to just be kind of look at that. That's probably it 1228 01:11:27,039 --> 01:11:29,680 though to be. I mean that Orlando, he's had a cap and what 1229 01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:31,039 is the money that's going out in that's anario. That's a that's a bad 1230 01:11:31,039 --> 01:11:34,000 one. Now we've hit all the signings. The only thing I didn't really 1231 01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:39,399 comment on too much is the Franz Vaughner getting the extension. I think that 1232 01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:42,079 I would have waited if that's what he was commanding. I guess you don't 1233 01:11:42,119 --> 01:11:45,680 have the cap space next season because you've decided not throw it over, which 1234 01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:49,640 again, fine, just he shot a really low percentage on jumpers last year. 1235 01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:53,840 He was sub twenty nine percent from three. He ends up being sub 1236 01:11:54,039 --> 01:11:58,680 forty four percent on two point jumpers, and you haven't improved your spacing enough 1237 01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:01,039 to say, okay, like we're gonna bank on him getting less attention and 1238 01:12:01,079 --> 01:12:04,199 having more room to work on the ball and just or even just to get 1239 01:12:04,239 --> 01:12:08,760 off threes. That was just I know the cap is going up, I 1240 01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:12,359 know these are the fun Maxes, as ESPN's Brian Windhorth calls them, But 1241 01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:15,720 that was just why could we not have kicked that decision down the like use 1242 01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:19,319 restricted free agency at that point, Let's see if this guy gets actually better. 1243 01:12:19,359 --> 01:12:23,239 I don't the language. I hate the way Shans reports it is just 1244 01:12:23,279 --> 01:12:26,640 like a five year deal that could be worth two hundred and seventy million dollars. 1245 01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:29,800 Give the actual number what it is. I don't care about the language 1246 01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:32,239 because if he does make an All NBA team, you're gonna be happy to 1247 01:12:32,319 --> 01:12:36,399 pay that difference. I was just I talked about this on a previous podcast. 1248 01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:40,560 I guess I was prepared for them to extend him, but I just 1249 01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:43,479 it happened so quickly. They've viewed as a no brainer after the season he 1250 01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:46,039 had, and I'm very curious to see if and where Jalen Suggs's number kind 1251 01:12:46,039 --> 01:12:49,319 of ends up here. But if those are my secondary kind of thoughts on 1252 01:12:49,359 --> 01:12:53,720 the Magic is a team that I'm endlessly fascinated with at the moment. I 1253 01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:56,239 don't know that they've made the most of their cap space. I think they've 1254 01:12:56,279 --> 01:13:00,800 made good moves, but I don't know that they're good move that really get 1255 01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:04,439 them any closer to their ceiling. They might improve incremantally based off internal development 1256 01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:10,520 and just infusing KCP into the rotation as replacing minutes from Joe Engles and Markel 1257 01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:13,479 Foltz at this point as of now, but just sort of running it back. 1258 01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:15,800 They're still loaded for a trade and so I would still love Simon's on 1259 01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:18,680 this team. This is a team that I mean, you can get there 1260 01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:21,800 if you're willing to include Cole Anthony. I don't know if you when he 1261 01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:25,800 only has one year left on his deal. In talking about Malcolm Rock and 1262 01:13:26,079 --> 01:13:28,199 that could be someone that you just take a look at. You could still 1263 01:13:28,239 --> 01:13:31,079 get to the money there for him. You could aim higher, like let's 1264 01:13:31,079 --> 01:13:35,239 just get LaMelo ball onto the Orlando if you think that he's going to remain 1265 01:13:35,279 --> 01:13:39,720 healthy. So their off season is one I mentioned this during their section. 1266 01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:41,720 I wish I would have spent more time in it. Their off season is 1267 01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:44,600 one that I'm just I'm conflicted on because I don't hate it, but I 1268 01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:46,840 was so ready to love it after they got KCP, and now I'm just 1269 01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:50,920 sort of like, okay, man, what's going on here? Don't none 1270 01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:56,720 of these moves are indefensible. I would have waited on Franz personally, but 1271 01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:59,399 I think I don't know if this makes it and I guess the thing they 1272 01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:00,760 did this off season, I would say it makes it more likely to extend 1273 01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:04,800 Jalen Suggs. I'd be very curious to see what his number winds up coming 1274 01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:10,039 in at because I really do think to maximize Frans and even I mean Jalen 1275 01:14:10,039 --> 01:14:13,760 Suggs, Paler, like you, even at least one other caps lock and 1276 01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:15,680 they don't have a capslock shooter, and maybe that becomes Jet Howard. Is 1277 01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:19,079 that what they're betting on next year? This team is really really, really 1278 01:14:19,119 --> 01:14:24,760 good and deep, but like they're a team where it's they need that offensive 1279 01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:27,199 and if it's not going to be a capslock shooter, then certainly just a 1280 01:14:27,199 --> 01:14:31,199 better offensive organizer than having a turn to Jalen Suggs and Cole Anthony and Palo 1281 01:14:31,239 --> 01:14:33,760 Bank Carrol and Franz Vadner and saying, Okay, we're just gonna sort of 1282 01:14:34,159 --> 01:14:39,520 put together this floor general by committee. I think that can work in certain 1283 01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:42,600 instances, and I'm high enough on Jalen Sugs and Palo Bank Carroll specifically that 1284 01:14:43,039 --> 01:14:45,319 I'm open to it. But then, like that's when you need to go 1285 01:14:45,359 --> 01:14:47,600 get the capslock shooter, which they have yet to do. So really good 1286 01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:51,880 team was expecting and hoping more from them this offseason. The off season or 1287 01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:55,560 the free agency period is like a week old, so there's still time for 1288 01:14:55,600 --> 01:15:02,600 them to do stuff, and I'm hoping that they will continue to do That's 1289 01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:05,439 right. It's I guess a version of stat padding, but it's by myself. 1290 01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:10,399 So I'm going to try something out, and hat tip to Discord user 1291 01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:14,239 be Rich for suggesting that we do something where maybe we react to viral clips 1292 01:15:14,279 --> 01:15:16,479 or videos. Those get a little bit hard to do during the off season. 1293 01:15:17,319 --> 01:15:21,840 So I'm going to talk about or I'm going to react to Skip Bayless 1294 01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:26,960 talking about lebron James, BRODDI James the Lakers. Someone sent There were two 1295 01:15:27,039 --> 01:15:29,319 videos they sent one of them in Discord, and just based off the way 1296 01:15:29,359 --> 01:15:33,279 it was promoted that Bronnie James is more clutch, is it clutcher? I 1297 01:15:33,319 --> 01:15:35,760 asked my editors about this. No one answered me. I think it's more 1298 01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:40,000 clutch. I don't think clutch is a word, but he called Bronnie James 1299 01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:43,960 more clutch or has more of a clutch gene than lebron I have not watched 1300 01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:46,319 these, so the whole point is to just react off the cuff. I'm 1301 01:15:46,359 --> 01:15:48,640 not trying to give them, We're just putting them on the show. I'm 1302 01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:53,640 trying to give them super shine where I'm necessarily bumping it. But it's all 1303 01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:56,439 jokes, nothing personally here. They're gonna be bad jokes because I have them 1304 01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:59,359 doing this off the cuff. It's supposed to be unplanned. I think if 1305 01:15:59,359 --> 01:16:01,520 we were gonna do aper dive into a clip like a viral play or something 1306 01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:03,760 going around, yeah, you watch that a bunch and try and whatever. 1307 01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:10,680 But if we're reacting to opinions, just something to try out. Hopefully everybody 1308 01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:13,520 enjoys it. Hopefully we'll see if I even enjoy it, because I cannot 1309 01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:17,199 stand listening to Skip Baylet's but yeah, nothing personal, all jokes, all 1310 01:16:17,279 --> 01:16:19,840 jokes. Here's just just jokes, good nature of fun. We're gonna be 1311 01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:24,159 off and running here. Hopefully this translates somewhat to audio. I'd probably recommend 1312 01:16:24,159 --> 01:16:27,119 I don't know, watching it on YouTube. So let's let's play. It's 1313 01:16:27,119 --> 01:16:29,279 two clips. They're each like, I think, two minutes long. Let's 1314 01:16:29,279 --> 01:16:32,079 just see. Let's just see what we got going here, Bronnie Okay, 1315 01:16:32,079 --> 01:16:34,960 first, right off the bat, I'm sorry interject. I don't watch the 1316 01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:40,239 Skip Bayless show. This is my first exposure to it. Is this always 1317 01:16:40,399 --> 01:16:43,800 what he wears? Like he's got a black shirt, plain black shirt with 1318 01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:47,439 a gold chain. It kind of looks like he's trying to recreate that rock, 1319 01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:50,279 Like does he have a Fannie pack on beneath this? That picture, 1320 01:16:50,319 --> 01:16:54,640 but that's not a turtleneck, so I don't what did we do? Like 1321 01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:57,319 the gold chain and the plain back shirt, it's like, looks like Meek 1322 01:16:57,399 --> 01:17:00,640 Mill maybe trying to be the rock here. I don't know. This is 1323 01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:02,640 just right off the bat, I'm already turned off, signed sealed. And 1324 01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:08,079 the other thing too, is I'm not gonna criticize. I hate criticizing appearances, 1325 01:17:08,119 --> 01:17:11,920 but as someone who was most recently called what was it in the comments 1326 01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:15,880 looks like an AI Disney character, an AI generated Disney character, I feel 1327 01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:18,600 like I'm allowed to say this, he kind of looks like, I don't 1328 01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:23,119 know, like, can we pick a I've been tanning before, full disclosure, 1329 01:17:23,159 --> 01:17:25,479 but like, can we pick a how aggressive you want to be with 1330 01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:30,079 it? Like right now, he kind of looks like Ted Dancing decided to 1331 01:17:30,079 --> 01:17:34,319 get like a die job and then go tanning exclusively in beds that have like 1332 01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:39,279 year old bulbs or maybe planets fit planet fitness bulbs. At this point, 1333 01:17:39,319 --> 01:17:41,880 I don't really know what he's trying to trying to do here, but I 1334 01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:45,239 already don't. I don't like that, and he just looks so miserable at 1335 01:17:45,279 --> 01:17:47,920 this point. You get paid a bunch of money to give bad sports takes 1336 01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:51,720 for a living. Be happier. My guy delivered. Now with the Lakers, 1337 01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:59,000 he's on a guaranteed Laker contract. There's no G League involved here. 1338 01:17:59,359 --> 01:18:02,279 Oh boy, okay, inaccuracy right off the bat. So it is a 1339 01:18:02,319 --> 01:18:05,760 guaranteed deal. The fourth year for Bronnie James's contract is a team option. 1340 01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:10,960 There's going to be the G League is involved. They already, I think 1341 01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:15,039 came out and said JJ Reddick. I believe that the plan is for him 1342 01:18:15,039 --> 01:18:17,920 to spend a ton of time with the Lakers G League affiliate, so they 1343 01:18:18,079 --> 01:18:21,640 was at the Erie Bay Lakers. Still, so there is G League involved, 1344 01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:27,279 which is exactly what you want to happen for someone drafted towards the end 1345 01:18:27,319 --> 01:18:29,399 of the second round, even just like first round picks being in the G 1346 01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:31,319 League. If there isn't, you're dealing with the top on a team that 1347 01:18:31,359 --> 01:18:35,119 has title aspirations. I don't know if the Lakers should really have those aspirations, 1348 01:18:35,119 --> 01:18:40,279 but there's there's going to be some G League minutes involved here. He's 1349 01:18:40,399 --> 01:18:44,359 going to be on the Laker roster, as I said from day one, 1350 01:18:45,319 --> 01:18:48,479 and he's going to play. Okay, so oh looks like he might be 1351 01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:53,000 needed to finishing the thought here. I don't Yes, he's gonna be on 1352 01:18:53,039 --> 01:18:55,760 the Lakers roster. You're right on that skip. He is not good. 1353 01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:59,680 Like, what is the over under the number of games real Laker games that 1354 01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:01,880 bron he plays in. I would assume they're only going to be like massive 1355 01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:04,680 blowouts, and maybe we have this sort of fanfare of all we need to 1356 01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:09,880 see bron and Bronnie on the court together. But let's I mean, like 1357 01:19:10,079 --> 01:19:14,199 I will set me over under the number of NBA games or let's let's do 1358 01:19:14,279 --> 01:19:17,039 total minutes. If you're giving me five hundred minutes, I'm gonna take the 1359 01:19:17,119 --> 01:19:23,479 under fairly significant minutes fairly quickly. I don't know how many of that will 1360 01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:29,800 be. And I am again no, if he's playing fairly significant minutes fairly 1361 01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:31,720 quickly, I don't know what the Lakers are doing. And this is just 1362 01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:35,560 like I want to know where he's going with this point, because this was 1363 01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:39,880 never the intention to draft Bronnie to have him play a bunch of minutes, 1364 01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:42,560 and I think JJ Reddick made that clear when they were talking about getting him 1365 01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:46,279 into their player development program. A Bronni fan, in fact, I think 1366 01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:51,960 Bronnie is built even tougher than his father is because Bronnie's been through a lot 1367 01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:58,960 in his life. Oh my god, this man is a This is idiotic. 1368 01:19:59,079 --> 01:20:02,319 I know you probably get paid to be this caricature of an actual sports 1369 01:20:02,319 --> 01:20:08,680 analyst, but I will not diminish what Bronnie went through. I think one 1370 01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:13,960 that gets underplayed is the attention in the social media age and also having lebron 1371 01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:16,319 as your father. Mir Vader wrote an incredible piece of the Ringer called The 1372 01:20:16,359 --> 01:20:20,720 Weight and Weight of Bronnie. You talk about that incredible title of Bronnie James. 1373 01:20:21,159 --> 01:20:26,119 There's that pressure that I don't think anyone necessarily can relate to, and 1374 01:20:26,159 --> 01:20:28,840 you have to deal with that this is a young kid. And then there's 1375 01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:32,439 he had that cardiac arrest episode last summer and that's ridiculously tough to come back 1376 01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:38,800 from. You're going to sit here and tell me that he has been through 1377 01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:44,920 more than Lebron James, who during his adolescence, from what the just based 1378 01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:47,520 off stuff that we've read, was CouchSurfing at one point with his mom, 1379 01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:51,039 didn't have a permanent home, was living with coaches. There was concerns about 1380 01:20:51,079 --> 01:20:58,680 how unsupervised he was at one point. But Bronnie James has been through more. 1381 01:20:59,039 --> 01:21:01,640 This is just now at a point where I'm I'm not criticizing Bronnie James 1382 01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:10,000 here, but he has had a level of safety that Lebron James was basically 1383 01:21:10,039 --> 01:21:13,680 never ensured while he was growing up. And this is just such a blasphemous 1384 01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:16,640 comment to make. I mean, we're just the cardiac arrest thing with Bronnie 1385 01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:19,520 James, that is scary as hell. I can't imagine what that was like 1386 01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:24,199 for Savannah and Lebron to have to see your kid go through something that you're 1387 01:21:24,199 --> 01:21:27,640 just not supposed to see someone in their youth go through, adolescence, go 1388 01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:32,159 through but like he's been through more than Lebron James. Like oh, and 1389 01:21:32,199 --> 01:21:36,399 even if you like even if you want to talk about you want to throw 1390 01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:41,039 off court stuff out of the equation coming in is this highly touted prospect, 1391 01:21:41,359 --> 01:21:44,319 but like where your safety net wasn't like if at the end of the day, 1392 01:21:44,399 --> 01:21:46,640 like if Bronni doesn't pan out, he has now signed and Lebron would 1393 01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:51,600 signed a massive contract too, but like there's a there's generational wealth set up 1394 01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:54,760 for him. I'm not saying he couldn't get another job, work really hard, 1395 01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:57,319 I'm not saying it won't even be a good NBA player, but there's 1396 01:21:57,399 --> 01:22:01,000 just like a fail safe there for him that wasn't there for Lebron. So 1397 01:22:01,399 --> 01:22:04,840 this is just like, my god, let's see if I even make it 1398 01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:10,399 through this entire clip in the harshest spotlight any kid could ever be thrust into 1399 01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:15,800 as Lebron James junior fair in terms of spotlight. But what's tougher to deal 1400 01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:20,600 with spotlight or maybe not knowing where your next meal or is coming from, 1401 01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:24,520 or where you're gonna sleep that night, that week, where you're gonna be 1402 01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:28,760 living the next year. What's what's tougher to deal with? Let's skip asking 1403 01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:34,800 you. I love how Bronnie's handled this. I get a good feeling every 1404 01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:40,159 time I watch him not only play basketball, but just handle himself, carry 1405 01:22:40,239 --> 01:22:45,039 himself. That is one. I want to know how much of Bronnie James 1406 01:22:45,039 --> 01:22:47,960 playing basketball. Skip Bayless has watched. So we set Bronnie James's rookie minutes 1407 01:22:48,239 --> 01:22:54,000 over under at five hundred. I'm gonna go over under five minutes that Skip 1408 01:22:54,039 --> 01:22:57,640 is sat down and watching even Bronnie James highlights, I'm gonna smash that under. 1409 01:22:58,479 --> 01:23:02,119 And also if he's watching Bronnie Ja handle himself, this is just kids 1410 01:23:02,159 --> 01:23:06,560 got a backbone, kids got guts, kids got principle and character. His 1411 01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:11,000 parents did a good job raising him. Hell yeah, I respect it. 1412 01:23:11,039 --> 01:23:13,600 We got to give credit where credit is due, You don't We tend to 1413 01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:16,399 lionize these athletes when you don't know them personally. And there's a lot of 1414 01:23:17,039 --> 01:23:20,600 performative jokes made it at Lebron's expense, and many of them are just hilarious. 1415 01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:23,880 I will say, even if you cringe at some of the stuff, 1416 01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:26,279 he does say, or maybe some of the social media posts that he has 1417 01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:29,920 this it does seem and I'm not saying that other NBA players aren't. I 1418 01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:32,079 think people went after Jason Tatum for the comments he made about having a kid, 1419 01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:35,199 how he initially didn't want deuce when he was younger. I mean, 1420 01:23:35,279 --> 01:23:40,079 he was, what is eas Jayson Tatum was nineteen now, so he's carrying 1421 01:23:40,079 --> 01:23:43,000 the two few years there, so he's nineteen men and having a kid like 1422 01:23:43,039 --> 01:23:46,520 that's something that you have to reconcile with. But Lebron James does seem like 1423 01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:51,159 a like a good parent or involved dad. And that's just the view from 1424 01:23:51,159 --> 01:23:57,960 afar. So it's really cool to see people recognize that part of and like 1425 01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:01,600 for even someone like Skip to say that I fav that I favor that part 1426 01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:05,000 of this. I think he'll be more calm, cool and collected in the 1427 01:24:05,039 --> 01:24:10,720 eye of next year's storm than even his father will be. That's probably because 1428 01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:13,760 he will be playing in the G League and Lebron will be trying to win 1429 01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:15,920 actual NBA basketball games. Is the best player on his team and one of 1430 01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:19,439 the best players of all time, but carry on, I think he'll play 1431 01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:25,760 pretty well alongside his father. But it is going to be circus material because 1432 01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:30,840 you have a first time head coach trying to juggle minutes with Bronni and proven 1433 01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:35,640 veterans who are not going to love it when Bronni gets his twelve minutes, 1434 01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:40,840 fourteen minutes, and sixteen minutes. And maybe that is actually a good point 1435 01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:44,800 in semi interesting and I push back on the proven veteran aspect of this. 1436 01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:46,760 Yeah, they a lot of these veterans have just proven that they shouldn't be 1437 01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:50,199 guarandeed minutes. I mean, you look at this Laker roster and if everyone's 1438 01:24:50,199 --> 01:24:55,439 healthy, okay, yeah, lebron Anthony Davis, Dangel Russell, Rujyachi Mora, 1439 01:24:55,800 --> 01:25:00,840 Austin Reeves. Who is Bronni playing in with those guys? No, 1440 01:25:00,039 --> 01:25:03,920 So now you get into the gave Vincent Jared Vanderbilt, Yeah, better track 1441 01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:09,279 records neither of I guess gave Vincent might play Bronnie's position. Jared Vanderbilt's material. 1442 01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:12,479 Bronnie's not gonna take minutes from him. Jamon Jeffino, I mean, 1443 01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:15,039 are you gonna rorry about I guess Max Christy. That's the reason they hired 1444 01:25:15,119 --> 01:25:17,880 JJ Reddick was to develop Max Christie. So I'm interesting to see how they 1445 01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:20,760 kind of juggle that. But what makes it a circus is because it's Lebron. 1446 01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:26,760 It's because places like what is Who's Skip Skips on Fox Sports? Is 1447 01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:30,039 the Skip Baylor Show on Fox Sports? Again my first exposure to the Skip 1448 01:25:30,079 --> 01:25:31,560 Baylor's show, and that I can't take my eyes off this gold chain. 1449 01:25:32,039 --> 01:25:36,680 I just honestly can't. Like this looks like my god, looks like Eric 1450 01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:41,520 Roberts forgot that he was Eric Roberts right now. I'm so, I just 1451 01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:43,920 don't understand the outfit. I need to maybe I need to check out other 1452 01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:46,199 Skip Baylor show clips, but I am in should see how JJ Reddick handles 1453 01:25:46,199 --> 01:25:50,039 that dynamic is the first time head coach and also just the framing that he's 1454 01:25:50,119 --> 01:25:55,199 Lebron James's podcast co host. Those aren't his credent credentials, but they have 1455 01:25:55,399 --> 01:25:59,520 that relationship built in there. So not as far as Skip Bayless takes go, 1456 01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:02,840 that was OK, even some nights twenty minutes a game playing alongside, 1457 01:26:03,079 --> 01:26:10,640 if not in place of his father. I really want to see the Lakers 1458 01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:13,960 about Lebron for Bronnie, but like I want to see them do it spitefully. 1459 01:26:14,279 --> 01:26:16,119 I want JJ Redick to have a game plan in place or wanted a 1460 01:26:16,399 --> 01:26:19,319 certain play run, and Lebron doesn't, and then he just gets bench for 1461 01:26:19,399 --> 01:26:25,079 his kid. How funny would that be? I'd be with it. I 1462 01:26:25,159 --> 01:26:29,319 think Bronnie would be pretty good. I think he'll he'll become a clutch three 1463 01:26:29,359 --> 01:26:32,920 point shooter. I've always gotten the feeling that Bronni had a bigger clutch gene 1464 01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:40,479 than his father does based off what I literally just pulled my microphone out of 1465 01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:44,439 its stand. What is this man talking about? This is gonna ruin the 1466 01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:48,840 rest of the clip because I got way too over exuberant here based on what, 1467 01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:53,479 like, what is he has the more clutch? Is it maybe because 1468 01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:57,920 he learned to drive on a standard car and Lebron only does self driving cars 1469 01:26:57,960 --> 01:27:02,880 or get chouffered around. I don't see what makes Bronnie more clutch than Lebron, 1470 01:27:03,359 --> 01:27:06,640 right, I need the evidence? What is it? McDonald's game? 1471 01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:10,840 He was in the spotlight and they went to him late two or three times. 1472 01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:14,800 He just nailed threes. He did not shoot the three well at USC 1473 01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:18,359 But I'm giving him a complete and utter break because I'm knocking on wood for 1474 01:27:18,479 --> 01:27:25,720 him he had a serious heart condition. He did and does have a serious 1475 01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:29,600 heart condition. But I don't know that two or three plays in a McDonald's 1476 01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:34,920 game makes you more clutch than one of who's perhaps the greatest NBA player of 1477 01:27:35,039 --> 01:27:39,159 all time, who's always been a playmaker first, And this is narrative that 1478 01:27:39,199 --> 01:27:44,119 he's always passing out of dries or out of situations in crunch time, being 1479 01:27:44,199 --> 01:27:48,239 too deferential has always been overblown. Just pretty mind melting stuff here. That 1480 01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:54,439 way laid him to start his first year of college basketball at USC and it 1481 01:27:54,680 --> 01:28:00,880 just never quite got going. And I get it in that tam never quite 1482 01:28:00,239 --> 01:28:03,640 got going around Isaiah College. Excuse me, Isaiah Colliery, who I thought 1483 01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:06,079 was going to be the first pick in the draft and he fell all the 1484 01:28:06,119 --> 01:28:12,359 way to the bottom of the first round. I'm throwing all that out because 1485 01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:16,479 I think that Bronni and only six to one and a half, will become 1486 01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:23,920 a very credible, if not difference making on ball defender. I think that, 1487 01:28:25,159 --> 01:28:29,119 Okay, I'm trying to say, yeah, you could be six to 1488 01:28:29,239 --> 01:28:32,680 one and be a credible on ball defender. Tying that into his shooting and 1489 01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:38,159 his clutch gene certainly interesting I am looking. I want like more evidence as 1490 01:28:38,199 --> 01:28:43,239 to why Skip thinks this body of his, which already looks pretty good to 1491 01:28:43,359 --> 01:28:45,800 me, will become more That's a good point. I mean, this dude 1492 01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:48,800 looks like Lebron. I mean, this might have something to do with the 1493 01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:54,760 resources available to him, but Bronni looks kind of like chiseled and built in 1494 01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:58,640 a way that even Lebron didn't seem like coming in where he was even still 1495 01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:01,800 had that young, stringy look to him. But I think it's also what 1496 01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:05,840 is Lebron six' eight six' nine, and so if Bronnie is six 1497 01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:10,119 one sixty two around that area a little bit easier to fill out there, 1498 01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:14,640 or more of a man body. So I I like what Bronnie will bring, 1499 01:29:15,359 --> 01:29:20,239 except it's going to be very difficult on JJ Reddick to juggle minutes and 1500 01:29:20,479 --> 01:29:27,319 egos down the bench Bronnie. Yeah, that's a I would agree with that 1501 01:29:27,439 --> 01:29:30,760 point from Skip, that it's gonna be hard to juggle those egos. But 1502 01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:33,800 we're operating under the assumption that there's gonna be pressure on him to play Bronnie 1503 01:29:34,119 --> 01:29:36,720 in NBA minutes, and I think if he's getting run in the G League, 1504 01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:40,960 that that's in playing with the actual Lakers in practice. Maybe he earns 1505 01:29:41,039 --> 01:29:45,039 minutes that way. I don't think like if they're if it gets to a 1506 01:29:45,079 --> 01:29:47,920 point where the Lakers are just playing Bronnie over some of these veterans, Like 1507 01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:51,680 if he's taking Austin Reeves's minutes and he he sucks, then yeah. But 1508 01:29:51,800 --> 01:29:56,720 I feel like we're manufacturing a lot here because his name is Bronnie James and 1509 01:29:56,760 --> 01:30:02,159 he's on a team with his with his dad. So I just I can't 1510 01:30:02,199 --> 01:30:08,039 bring myself to worry about that. The circus is gonna come from all of 1511 01:30:08,159 --> 01:30:11,920 us, including ourselves that are covering this, and Skip, who's really gonna 1512 01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:15,920 milk it? So this next clip here, I think is it was promoted 1513 01:30:15,119 --> 01:30:20,359 as Skip Bayless talking about why the Lakers no longer have the cachet to get 1514 01:30:20,439 --> 01:30:25,600 players that might actually be super interesting. So let's go, let's go see 1515 01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:29,319 what he has to say on this matter. There are four key pieces to 1516 01:30:29,399 --> 01:30:33,720 that puzzle last year who were not healthy and yet and still they're right there 1517 01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:36,880 in the fourth quarter a game one at Denver, first round of the playoffs, 1518 01:30:38,159 --> 01:30:44,920 and Lebron pouts and won't shoot until oh my god, this anti Lebron 1519 01:30:45,039 --> 01:30:46,920 narrative just so tired. And again I'm being part of the problem, but 1520 01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:50,439 I always tell people that seem to actually get aggrieved by it, It's fine 1521 01:30:50,439 --> 01:30:53,359 to dunk on them if you want to have fun. That's what I'm trying 1522 01:30:53,399 --> 01:30:57,000 to do here, But to actually get mad about this tape because it's just 1523 01:30:57,079 --> 01:31:00,720 so cartoonish at this point, and it's from someone that looks like they're using 1524 01:31:00,800 --> 01:31:04,920 Donald Trump's skincare routine regime, whatever you want to call it, that I 1525 01:31:05,039 --> 01:31:10,520 can't take it seriously like Lebron. Okay, Lebron has pouted Lebron like refusing 1526 01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:14,560 to shoot. Let's just let's just come on here, settle down, skip 1527 01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:16,000 again. I know that you've done a lot of Bronni games film work. 1528 01:31:16,039 --> 01:31:18,840 I question how much Lebron James film work you've done. The Game's out of 1529 01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:23,159 hand Game two at Denver, the whole series could have been turned on its 1530 01:31:23,239 --> 01:31:28,479 head. Lebron gets a wide open free throw of a three point shot to 1531 01:31:28,640 --> 01:31:33,279 win the game seconds left, and he missed it, as simple as that. 1532 01:31:34,079 --> 01:31:38,439 Wow. Yeah, I feel like we should. There needs to be 1533 01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:45,399 bigger penalties every time an NBA player misses a shot like do we should we 1534 01:31:45,439 --> 01:31:48,479 have taken away Lebron's first born or should we have just executed Lebron on the 1535 01:31:48,520 --> 01:31:53,399 spot for missing a shot? They're really just missing a shot at Michael Jordan 1536 01:31:53,479 --> 01:31:56,079 never missed a shot, so, I mean, anyone who played for the 1537 01:31:56,159 --> 01:32:00,279 Dallas Cowboys has never dropped a pass. So I just there needs to be 1538 01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:03,680 skips, right. We need harsher punishments in place for these dudes who can't 1539 01:32:03,680 --> 01:32:06,920 shoot one hundred percent from the field, even when they're just totally wide open 1540 01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:11,960 and playing in front of tens of thousands of people, and like against the 1541 01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:14,119 team where there might be a close I don't even remember the place talking about, 1542 01:32:14,119 --> 01:32:15,239 but yeah, sure there might have been someone closing out and running after 1543 01:32:15,319 --> 01:32:17,439 him. But you need to be perfect. Yeah, the fact that Lebron 1544 01:32:17,479 --> 01:32:20,279 missed that shot. Jordan wouldn't missed that shot. He would taking him one 1545 01:32:20,319 --> 01:32:24,439 hand and his eyes closed and waited for a defender to come out to him 1546 01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:28,760 so that he could have shot it contested. But that team coached by Darvin 1547 01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:31,640 Ham, who was doing a pretty good job to me, was right there. 1548 01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:36,600 I mean, I tend to give coaches most of the time the benefit 1549 01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:40,600 of the doubt, just because they forget more about basketball on a daily basis 1550 01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:43,479 than I will ever know. I think some of the lineups that Darvin Ham 1551 01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:48,880 would perpetually run were definitely worth criticizing. I think that the offense in general, 1552 01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:51,600 too for the Lakers was not inventive enough. That might be a symptom 1553 01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:56,239 of having Lebron James. But do I think that he needed to be scapegoaded? 1554 01:32:56,760 --> 01:32:59,479 I mean, let's see how JJ Reddick does before we answer that question. 1555 01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:04,479 I suppose so ooh, you see anyone who's watched, they're like dramatic? 1556 01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:08,880 Should I add that into like my podcasting repertoire, which is staring at 1557 01:33:08,920 --> 01:33:13,720 the ground and just shaking my head solemnly, like really just adding dramatic because 1558 01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:16,399 he looks like he's really about to uncork a take here. I'm gonna be 1559 01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:20,000 upset if the if the build up isn't worth the return. Oh, I 1560 01:33:20,359 --> 01:33:26,319 keep hearing Laker entitlement of well, let's just go get de Jonta Murray. 1561 01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:30,479 And it came down to Atlanta saying, no, uh, we want Austin 1562 01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:34,800 Reeves. You gotta throw Austin Reeves into whatever the deal was probably really was 1563 01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:38,039 in there maybe d Low's. I don't. I don't know, but they 1564 01:33:38,119 --> 01:33:42,039 want I just I don't know. We know that the Lakers didn't want to 1565 01:33:42,039 --> 01:33:45,239 give up Austin Reeves, and I think in the Dejenttey Murray deals specifically, 1566 01:33:45,319 --> 01:33:48,439 you probably have a case to do that because, like if it was Reeves 1567 01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:53,000 and two first versus the Pelicans gave up Byson Daniels in two first, the 1568 01:33:53,119 --> 01:33:57,760 Lakers' own picks are going to be more valuable than the picks that the Pelicans 1569 01:33:57,800 --> 01:34:00,159 are giving up, so to speak. So I of understand that stance. 1570 01:34:00,199 --> 01:34:05,319 And we don't have reporting right now on how seriously the Lakers were in on 1571 01:34:05,439 --> 01:34:09,720 Dejontay. It seems like they're more interested in cashing in on maybe a bigger 1572 01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:13,079 name, or did this come down to they wouldn't include Dalton connect It also 1573 01:34:13,199 --> 01:34:16,760 just seems like, honestly, I know that they could use some secondary playmaking 1574 01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:20,239 now or Reeves would have definitely worked for them. It seems like the Hawks 1575 01:34:20,279 --> 01:34:24,720 wanted to prioritize getting some wing bodies in there and wing defenders. The Lakers 1576 01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:28,880 don't have those guys to offer, so could they have beaten Atlanta's offer? 1577 01:34:29,119 --> 01:34:31,199 Sure? This is not the player where if you could have gotten him, 1578 01:34:31,199 --> 01:34:34,000 then I'm gonna criticize you for not I think part of the appeal would have 1579 01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:36,560 been all right if you would put every pick, two picks and two spots 1580 01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:40,079 on the table and could have gotten him. And now you're keeping Austin Reeves 1581 01:34:40,079 --> 01:34:44,079 and you have lebron and Ad and Bronnie James playing his like eighteen nineteen minutes 1582 01:34:44,079 --> 01:34:45,960 a game. Sure, but we haven't seen enough reporting on it. I 1583 01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:50,039 don't think this is one of the opportunities that the Lakers necessarily just whiffed on 1584 01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:56,359 undert Austin Reeves. And I was with the Lakers for saying no, because 1585 01:34:56,439 --> 01:35:01,359 Dejonte's not that good. I like him, but I don't him. I 1586 01:35:01,399 --> 01:35:03,359 guess I agree with everything that I didn't know if this was gonna go on 1587 01:35:03,439 --> 01:35:06,319 for him to compliment the Lakers, though, so I'm very This is just 1588 01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:11,199 I make some roundabout points, and I think people listening or watching, we'll 1589 01:35:11,199 --> 01:35:14,079 have no idea where they're going. But this is a I don't know where 1590 01:35:14,119 --> 01:35:17,439 this is going. Guys, Austin Reeves is really really good and he's only 1591 01:35:17,560 --> 01:35:23,960 going to get really really better. Duh. I mean, I don't really 1592 01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:26,479 know that. We could say really, really better is proper English. But 1593 01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:29,800 aside from that, we're framing this is Austin Reeves is one of the young 1594 01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:32,079 Lakers they want to build around. He's not old. I'm older than Austin 1595 01:35:32,119 --> 01:35:35,920 Reeves. This seems so it's fucking ridiculous that I'm saying this. He's twenty 1596 01:35:36,039 --> 01:35:39,680 six. This is not like, how much better do we expect him to 1597 01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:42,880 get at twenties? Do you think he's gonna turn into building black material? 1598 01:35:43,399 --> 01:35:45,720 And then I kept hearing about Donovan Mitchell. Let's just snap our fingers and 1599 01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:49,119 go, let's try for Donovan Mitchell. And I said, Cleveland's not going 1600 01:35:49,159 --> 01:35:51,920 to give him up. And Cleveland just maxed him out and he is now 1601 01:35:53,720 --> 01:35:58,399 for the next whatever it is, five years a Cleveland cavalier. He is 1602 01:35:58,439 --> 01:36:02,079 a Cleveland Cavalier for the next four. But three of those were guaranteed. 1603 01:36:02,079 --> 01:36:04,439 And the way that pre agency works is if he wants to leave, we'll 1604 01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:06,800 be talking about this again in two years. But he is right the game 1605 01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:11,199 of max extension and he is still in Cleveland. And I think if you 1606 01:36:11,239 --> 01:36:14,039 were ever setting you're the Lakers were putting their eggs and then we'll just go 1607 01:36:14,079 --> 01:36:16,439 out and trade for Donovan Mitchell or Trey Young basket. Uh, yeah, 1608 01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:19,640 you should. You shouldn't have done that. De Jonte obviously went to New 1609 01:36:19,760 --> 01:36:26,000 Orleans. Great take by Skip. I'm pretty sure that Dejonte is in New 1610 01:36:26,079 --> 01:36:30,600 Orleans. That's really that's great, good call Clay. Let's go get Clay 1611 01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:35,720 and now on the front burner becomes DeMar DeRozan. We'll see how that works 1612 01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:39,000 out. Oh, sound of it was? Right now? Those like DeMar 1613 01:36:39,119 --> 01:36:41,720 Rosen's going to the Kings. We know Clay took he could have had four 1614 01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:44,880 and eighty from the Lakers versus three and fifty from the MAVs. I think 1615 01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:46,960 what goes into that. I guess the Lakers could have guaranteed him a spot, 1616 01:36:47,079 --> 01:36:51,720 a starting spot, but to Skip's point, like the Lakers being a 1617 01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:55,560 circus might have worked against them there. And he's playing, you know, 1618 01:36:55,640 --> 01:36:59,239 Michael Thompson, his dad, and then just the air of like the pressure 1619 01:36:59,319 --> 01:37:01,560 there. Did he want to go in Dallas where okay, you guarantee the 1620 01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:05,359 starting spot there might just be less of a media who PLA And then I 1621 01:37:05,399 --> 01:37:10,119 think the think the more important thing here is the money is comparable enough, 1622 01:37:10,199 --> 01:37:12,760 the playing time is comparable, if not better enough, that why not just 1623 01:37:12,840 --> 01:37:17,079 go to the better team, which would be the Dallas Mavericks. My point 1624 01:37:17,199 --> 01:37:25,199 is he has a point. This is exciting. In the end, something 1625 01:37:25,399 --> 01:37:30,479 just happened. A message just got sent that the Lakers are no longer the 1626 01:37:30,680 --> 01:37:41,399 destination right because they didn't get Klay Thompson. Sure, and because what players 1627 01:37:41,399 --> 01:37:45,399 who are under contract didn't force their way there. I don't I'm not really 1628 01:37:45,479 --> 01:37:48,319 sure where we're where we're going here, and there's only like a couple seconds 1629 01:37:48,359 --> 01:37:53,640 of this clip left. Maybe they're no longer in the eyes of players around 1630 01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:58,840 the league, the Lakers anymore, because Lebron has become oh god, I 1631 01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:01,359 don't even want to let him finish the sentence, but I'm gonna more trouble 1632 01:38:01,439 --> 01:38:06,800 than he's worth running the Lakers with now his puppet head coach JJ Reddick. 1633 01:38:09,399 --> 01:38:14,800 Okay, this is just like Lebron is definitely him and Clutch Sports have gone 1634 01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:16,680 to great lengths to say like they aren't involved in these decisions, which I 1635 01:38:16,760 --> 01:38:20,119 do think is bullshit. And I think that you can lay if you want 1636 01:38:20,159 --> 01:38:24,000 to, some of the blame for the Russell Westbrook trade which might be the 1637 01:38:24,079 --> 01:38:27,479 original Cardinal Sandal, though I think you look at the Danny Green trade as 1638 01:38:27,520 --> 01:38:32,560 well. A job of a front office is to keep stars in check and 1639 01:38:32,680 --> 01:38:38,319 to if you want their input, solicit it, do it. But you 1640 01:38:38,439 --> 01:38:45,159 also need to shoot them down when they're wrong. And so I only assign 1641 01:38:45,319 --> 01:38:47,760 so much blame as what has gone wrong in LA. I don't think Lebron 1642 01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:51,039 has sat there and completely devalued the presence of two way players. That would 1643 01:38:51,079 --> 01:38:55,720 be he's too smart for them to do that. Does he maybe want ultimate 1644 01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:59,239 power and control and they've given him too much? Look, I honestly can't 1645 01:38:59,239 --> 01:39:01,199 speak to that, but to say that Lebron is more trouble than he's worth, 1646 01:39:01,560 --> 01:39:05,079 Lebron was still one of the fifteen best players in basketball last year, 1647 01:39:05,319 --> 01:39:10,000 and so I want to know specifically what he has done to ruin the Lakers 1648 01:39:10,079 --> 01:39:13,600 and if it's the whole him and Bronni are just the attention that comes with 1649 01:39:13,720 --> 01:39:17,720 being in Los Angeles has to like prevented some other players from wanting to be 1650 01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:20,680 there. I'd like to hear more about it on the record, But like 1651 01:39:20,920 --> 01:39:26,319 Anthony Davis forced to trade to only the Lakers, and there's always going to 1652 01:39:26,359 --> 01:39:30,119 be that cachet. Is there Lakers exceptionalism? Will some teams charge a Lakers 1653 01:39:30,279 --> 01:39:32,520 tax? Are they overvaluing some of their own players if they don't want to 1654 01:39:32,520 --> 01:39:35,640 give up Austin Reeves and some of these deals for targets that we haven't even 1655 01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:41,159 mentioned or heard about yet. Okay, sure, but this idea that Lebron 1656 01:39:41,239 --> 01:39:44,279 has ruined the Lakers when he is still very clearly and I don't think it's 1657 01:39:44,479 --> 01:39:46,239 he's the reason it's this way, Like, yeah, I guess his style 1658 01:39:46,359 --> 01:39:50,840 could be harder to incorporate, but I've never like, how do you watch 1659 01:39:50,920 --> 01:39:55,039 this guy play and think that he's still not great enough to be well, 1660 01:39:55,119 --> 01:39:57,920 like, we still kind of need to flesh out like our roster in future 1661 01:39:57,960 --> 01:40:02,079 and take his opinion into account. Lebron is now effectively the unofficial head coach 1662 01:40:02,119 --> 01:40:06,680 of the Lakers. Oh okay, yeah right, this is just utter bs. 1663 01:40:06,760 --> 01:40:10,439 I think that we can just I mean, we can just leave it, 1664 01:40:11,239 --> 01:40:15,000 leave it there, because yes, okay, JJ Redick is Lebron's homie. 1665 01:40:15,079 --> 01:40:19,279 But JJ Reddick was not only interviewed by the Lakers, he had interviews 1666 01:40:19,319 --> 01:40:24,359 with the Raptors the Hornets. Wasn't there another organization that he had interviewed with 1667 01:40:24,479 --> 01:40:27,399 a while back. So he's ad at least two other NBA interviews. So 1668 01:40:27,479 --> 01:40:30,359 this has been a name that's at least been floated, whether the interviews were 1669 01:40:30,359 --> 01:40:31,800 out of courtesy or not. He's a name that's been floated. And the 1670 01:40:31,880 --> 01:40:35,239 other thing here is just like, unless the Lakers did this on purpose to 1671 01:40:35,279 --> 01:40:40,039 make it look like they weren't bending till Lebron's will, they went after Dan 1672 01:40:40,159 --> 01:40:44,920 Hurley first and offered him money and just one of the like dumbest public negotiations. 1673 01:40:44,920 --> 01:40:46,039 I have no idea what they were thinking on that it was. I've 1674 01:40:46,520 --> 01:40:50,920 likened it to you don't propose marriage to someone without knowing the answer. There 1675 01:40:50,960 --> 01:40:55,159 are just certain questions you don't ask without knowing the answer. And the way 1676 01:40:55,239 --> 01:40:58,520 those negotiations unfolded with the money in the years that they offered him would be 1677 01:40:58,600 --> 01:41:00,960 one of those situations. And so so was this sort of an elaborate plan 1678 01:41:01,039 --> 01:41:03,920 and make it seem like, oh, we're not going the Lebron's will be 1679 01:41:04,079 --> 01:41:08,960 done route. Spare me that Lebron is not the head coach of the Lakers. 1680 01:41:09,640 --> 01:41:13,000 This was as promised. It took him forever to get there, but 1681 01:41:13,399 --> 01:41:16,520 blaming Lebron for the state of the Lakers is quite to take here. Not 1682 01:41:16,640 --> 01:41:19,640 perfect, He's definitely made some missteps along the way, but everything that's wrong 1683 01:41:19,680 --> 01:41:23,039 with them can be laid at the feet of ownership and the front office, 1684 01:41:23,079 --> 01:41:25,960 because even if they solicited his advice or listen to them, part of their 1685 01:41:26,039 --> 01:41:30,199 jobs is understanding when not to do that. Hopefully you just didn't hate that. 1686 01:41:30,319 --> 01:41:31,760 We'll still work out some kings for it. There'll be different types of 1687 01:41:32,279 --> 01:41:34,479 clips that we go through. If you'd like to submit one that you'd like 1688 01:41:34,520 --> 01:41:38,600 to see me or maybe grant together review, you'd have to be a discord 1689 01:41:38,680 --> 01:41:41,840 or our email. We do have a trade to report though, at the 1690 01:41:41,960 --> 01:41:44,319 end of this, a big one, so everybody sit down. The Spurs 1691 01:41:44,399 --> 01:41:46,399 are trading guard Devonte Graham and a second round pick to the Charlotte Hornets. 1692 01:41:46,439 --> 01:41:49,479 Per WoDES, the Hornets will wave Graham, allowing him to become a free 1693 01:41:49,520 --> 01:41:53,760 agent. The Hornets are gonna have to pay the partial guarantee that was on 1694 01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:56,960 Graham's number, which is like two point nine to two point eight five million. 1695 01:41:57,079 --> 01:41:59,399 They're gonna get a second round pick out of the deal, and the 1696 01:41:59,439 --> 01:42:02,600 Spurs are now twenty five million dollars plus under the cap I think at this 1697 01:42:02,640 --> 01:42:05,279 point twenty six million dollars plus. So they are set up to do some 1698 01:42:05,359 --> 01:42:10,039 spicy things. Maybe that helps them out and allow remarketing trade or trade for 1699 01:42:10,079 --> 01:42:14,560 someone else who knows. Hope you enjoyed this. We'll be coming at you 1700 01:42:14,720 --> 01:42:16,720 with I think more frequent episodes in the following We only had two this week. 1701 01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:20,079 We apologize after putting out like eight or ten in the previous week or 1702 01:42:20,119 --> 01:42:24,800 whatever. 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