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Hudson River Radio dot com. This
is Travis Walton and you are listening to

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UFO Headquarters Fuiful. Welcome everyone.
This is a slightly different episode with the

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holidays and vacations and scheduling. Just
couldn't get a regular episode together. So

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it's just me tonight and I will
be reading two stories of possible abduction from

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my book Hudson Valley UFOs the best
evidence. So put up your feet,

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close your eyes, and unless you're
driving a car, that wouldn't be good,

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but relax, maybe turn the lights
down low, and hope you enjoy

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the following two episodes, which will
begin right after the first break. Millerton,

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New York, June nineteen seventy two. It was June of nineteen seventy

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two and Audrey Garay was driving home
from Sharon, Connecticut, where she worked

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the second shift at a hospital.
Her mother had watched her five month old

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son that night, and she was
driving both of them back to her house

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in Millerton, New York. It
was about eleven fifty pm and they were

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on Coleman Station Road, heading towards
Route twenty two. The sky was clear

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and the stars were shining. Suddenly, the two women noticed a starlike light

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in the sky that was twinkling blue, red, and green. At the

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same time, both of them said, look at that plain. They had

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no sooner spoken those words. When
the small light descended so rapidly it looked

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as though it was falling out of
the sky. They both put their hands

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over their ears because they didn't want
to hear that terrible sound of the plane

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that was obviously about to crash into
the ground. In the blink of an

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eye, however, the bright object
came to a complete dead stop right in

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front of them, and it absolutely
wasn't a plane. It was a disc

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shaped object that hovered about fifty feet
in front of the car at an altitude

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of about fifty to seventy five feet. It was at least the size of

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two houses, Audrey said. It
had a dome on top a silvery metallic

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color, and just beneath the dome
were a bank of rectangular windows. The

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bottom edge was ringed with a bright, multicolored light that appeared to rotate.

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The only sound they heard was a
hum, a very soothing, soft hum,

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she said, But that's where the
soothing part ended. The craft was

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brightly lit on the inside, and
Audrey and her mother could clearly see the

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occupants through the windows. Although Audrey
remembers their being about six figures, her

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mother adamantly maintained she could count seven. However, that wasn't really the most

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important observation. There was something they
both agreed upon, and it is arguably

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the most unsettling aspect of this case. They were definitely non human, and

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I will take that to the grave. Audrey told me we could see them

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from about mid chest up. Their
faces were pear shaped, and they had

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huge black eyes that were almost almond
shaped. Their chests were concave, and

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their shoulders and arms were very thin
and very spindly. They had grayish skin,

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no clothes, and the interior was
so brightly lit we could see what

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looked like computers or control panels.
I asked what these figures were doing,

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and Audrey replied they were looking right
at us. The six or seven strange

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figures and the two terrified women stared
at one another for about forty five seconds.

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Then a brilliant blue white light came
out at an angle from underneath the

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craft and lit up the car like
lightning. The blinding light hurt their eyes

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and they raised their hands to shield
their faces. Then, just as suddenly,

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the light and the craft were gone, but as their eyes were readjusting

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to all the darkness, they could
still hear that distinctive humming sound. Mom

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Where is it, Audrey asked,
straining to see where the huge craft could

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have gone. So quickly, Audrey, it's above the car. Her mother

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shouted, it's right above the car. That was the moment Audrey experienced the

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most terror, not for herself but
for her baby. She had no idea

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what was happening, but her primary
concern was to get her son to safety.

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They waited breathlessly as the seconds ticked
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another. Finally, the edge of
the craft inched over the windshield and came

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into sight. Maintaining the same low
altitude, The large discs slowly moved ahead

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of the car, following every bend
in the road. She waited until the

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craft was about a hundred feet ahead
of her before she eased the car forward.

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Audrey didn't want to catch up with
the craft and its bizarre occupants,

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but she had to take that road
if they were to get home. At

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the creeping rate of about five miles
per hour, Audrey drove of the rest

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of the way on that road,
a distance of one point six miles,

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she later measured, with the frightening
craft just five or six car lengths ahead.

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She reached the intersection of Route twenty
two, where they saw another car

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that had pulled over so the driver
could watch the slow moving disk. The

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craft continued to remain directly in front
of them on Route twenty two, but

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when Audrey turned down her street McGhee
Hill Road, they finally lost sight of

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the craft, but not before noting
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Audrey told her husband what they had
witnessed, and he thought they were

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just crazy. As they had no
camera, there was no way to prove

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what they had seen, or so
they thought. The next day, Audrey's

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mother was watching television and she yelled
to her daughter to come and look.

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There was a newscast about two New
York States policeman who saw the same disc

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shaped craft the night before around two
am in Albany. Unfortunately, the newscasters

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were making fun of the report,
and it was clear they all thought it

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was a big joke. At that
point, Audrey decided she had to report

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their sighting to someone, so she
called the Civil Defense Department in Poughkeepsie.

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She expected that they would either hang
up or laugh at her, but instead,

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they carefully took down all of the
details of her sighting, including the

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direction the craft took. When she
was finished telling her story, she voiced

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her surprise that they were taking her
seriously. The man replied, ma'am,

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we've had hundreds and hundreds of reports
coming in all night long. Audrey was

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even further surprised when he admitted,
we have been tracking the object. So

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what was done about this mysterious craft
seen by hundreds of witnesses, including the

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state police in nineteen seventy two a
craft being tracked by Civil Defense? Apparently

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nothing, as no word about the
incident was ever heard on the news again.

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About seven months later, Audrey was
just getting into bed when she heard

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her dog and all of the dogs
in the neighborhood start barking frantically, and

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she was wondering what could be going
on. She heard the distinctive and unmistakable

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humming sound again directly over her house. She tried to wake her husband,

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but found she couldn't move or speak. Once again. She was afraid for

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her child in the next room,
but she was powerless to help him.

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Audrey was certain she was not asleep, as she had just gotten into bed.

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The paralysis lasted about three or four
hours, and then just at sunrise,

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the humming ceased and she was suddenly
released. She jumped out of bed

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and ran to her son's room.
She checked him all over for any kind

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of injuries, but he was apparently
unharmed. When her husband awoke, she

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told him the story, but he
hadn't heard a thing. Later that day,

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she asked neighbors what they thought about
all the dogs barking all night,

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but they hadn't heard anything either.
There were no more encounters over the next

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six years, and despite her fear
for her son's safety, Audrey's attitude toward

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the strange visitors changed. I think
they chose me to talk about them because

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they somehow knew I'm not one to
be intimidated. I don't care if I'm

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ridiculed for speaking about UFOs, because
I'm confident in what I I saw and

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I haven't stopped talking about it.
Audrey actually grew to feel that she had

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some sort of connection with the beings
in the craft, and she was going

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to get the opportunity to prove that. Around nineteen seventy eight, her husband

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and cousin were away on business,
so she and her cousin's wife, Julia,

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decided to have a girl's night out. They went to the Red Barn

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tavern in Millerton, but as soon
as the ladies entered, they realized it

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was not the kind of place for
them. It was a very rough crowd,

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she said, filled with bikers,
so they left right away. They

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decided to go to a nicer place
in a Menia the tally Ho, and

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took back road toward town. As
they were driving on downy Road, Audrey

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noticed an orange amber light in the
sky. The light was diving then shooting

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up things a plane could never do. Look at that ufo, she said

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to Julia. Every time you see
a light, you think it's a UFO,

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Julia chided her. She then went
on to make fun of Audrey and

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laugh at her belief in aliens and
spacecraft from another world. How could you

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say it's not a UFO, Audrey
replied, incredulous that her friend wouldn't believe

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what she was seeing with her own
eyes. Despite the inexplicable movement of the

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light, Julia continued to mock Audrey. Then I thought to myself, I

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wish it would please come closer so
I could prove it to Julia. Audrey

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explained, No, sooner had I
thought that. When the light began rapidly

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dropping altitude and headed straight for us, Julia began screaming for us to get

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out of there because the object was
suddenly right over the car. I was

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just learning to drive a standard transmit, and Audrey said, and I stalled

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the car several times, and each
time Julia kept screaming for us to get

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away. Once I got it going, the disc shaped craft continued to follow

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right above the car for the next
half mile, and Julia kept begging for

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me to drive faster. We decided
to head straight from my house, but

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the disc stayed with us. It
wasn't until we turned down McGhee Hill Road

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that it broke off and went away. Julia was so traumatized she wouldn't drive

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to her house alone, so Audrey's
brother had to escort her from that night,

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Julia was a firm believer and alien
spacecraft. Also that night, Audrey

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became convinced that she had some sort
of telepathic connection with the beams. There

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would be several other sightings over the
years, but none so close again.

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Audrey did see several types of craft, including some in the nineteen eighties that

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were so massive she described them as
flying cities. I asked if anything unusual

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had happened to her when she was
a child, and wasn't too surprised to

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find out that something had occurred.
In October of nineteen sixty one, when

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she was eleven. She was outside
with her twin brother and three friends when

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they saw quote a thing with multi
colored lights moved very very fast from horizon

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to horizon. Oddly, her brother
has no recollection of the event, which

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at the time made quite an impression
on everyone. Two of the friends have

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since passed away, but the third
witness is a man who retired after her

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thirty five year long career in the
Air Force. He still vividly recalls the

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sighting and maintains that after a lifetime
of dealing with all manner of aircraft,

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he still never saw anything like that
multi colored object in nineteen sixty one.

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Although her twin brother couldn't recall that
sighting, another brother was to have a

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remarkable experience in two thousand and nine
when he spotted a huge triangular craft.

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It silently passed directly over him while
he was driving, and he jumped out

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of his truck and aimed a bright
flashlight up at it. He described the

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underside as quote rippling like liquid mercury. A very unique sighting to say the

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least, and one that made him
a firm believer too. So have all

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these sightings had any lasting impact on
Audrey? Yes, as that night in

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June of nineteen seventy two was nothing
left than life changing. All of my

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ideas about religion changed. She told
me, I just can't buy into all

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that anymore. There's something so far
beyond that. I feel honored that they

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chose me. I can stand to
the ridicule because I trust my own eyes,

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and I trust my own judgment,
and I feel like their family.

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It's cool. A couple of days
after my interview with Audrey, she emailed

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me that she had tracked down Julia, who was now living in North Carolina.

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I called and left a message,
and the next day Julia and I

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spoke so I could get her side
of the story of what happened that night

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in nineteen seventy eight. There are
some details of that night I don't recall,

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but there are things that are so
clear I will never forget, Julia

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began. She and Audrey had gone
to the bar that night, hoping to

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meet some friends, but there wasn't
anyone there that they knew, so they

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left right away. Julia was letting
Audrey drive her car as she wanted to

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learn how to drive a standard transmission. As they were driving down a road

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that had big flat fields on either
side, Audrey pointed to a strange light

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in the sky that was making odd
turns and drawing closer. All of a

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sudden, it was right above us, she said, excitement still noticeable in

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her voice over thirty years later.
I was screaming at Audrey to drive faster.

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She kept stalling the car, and
I was yelling at her to let

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me drive. I was scared.
Julia described the circular metallic craft as having

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bright lights, and it wasn't flat. There were ridges on the bottom.

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She said, she has no idea
how long the craft was above them,

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and their very well could have been
missing time. But the light disappeared as

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suddenly as it had come. She
was still so frightened when she got back

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to Audrey's house that she asked Audrey's
brother to follow her home, but she

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admitted, of course, now that
I think about it, what could he

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have done. Julia was scared for
quite a while after the event, but

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despite the fear, she learned to
never doubt that UFOs are out there.

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About five or six years later,
Julia had another sighting, but this one

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was different in a number of ways. First of all, this ufo was

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not circular. It was clearly triangular, and it didn't come nearly as close.

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Also, as Julia didn't doubt the
existence of UFOs, she was a

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little more prepared this time, so
she wasn't as scared. Many others around

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the area saw the same triangle that
night, including her husband, who saw

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it from another location, so she
didn't have the burden of trying to get

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her family and friends to believe what
she saw. So how did that first

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sighting influence her life? I am
much more open to things. I'm glad

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I did see it because then I
knew something more is out there. I'm

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not afraid anymore, although I sometimes
wonder if we were abducted that night.

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Here's an addendum to the story.
On a hot and humid Friday, August

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seventeenth, twenty twelve, Sarah and
Felix Olivieri, who I worked with making

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the film In the Night Sky,
met at Audrey's home in Sharon, Connecticut

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to interview her for the film.
I was a little early, and Audrey

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and I sat in her kitchen talking
about all kinds of things. Audrey has

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an amazing sense of humor, and
I was laughing my rear end off at

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her stories. When Sarah and Felix
arrived, Felix made some preliminary sketches of

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the circular craft Audrey had seen.
Then I went to Audrey's car, and

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Sarah and Felix followed us on the
exact course that Audrey, her mother,

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and son took that night in June
of seventy two. We stopped in the

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road right where she had stopped forty
years earlier. This is where we had

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chosen to conduct the on camera interview
with Audrey. And while it was visually

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a great location, other aspects made
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stench of fresh manure from the farm
fields was so overpowering that I had to

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suppress a gag when the wind blew
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and bees that kept landing on us. After the cameras were rolling. We

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tried to Sarah titiously swathed them away, But when a fly lands on the

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tip of your nose, not once, but twice, there's just no way

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it's going to look good on the
big screen. So I silently hoped Felix

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would do some creative editing. Despite
the sickening odor and bugs, it was

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fascinating to hear Audrey's story at the
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It was even more I opening when
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house and I realized just how long
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she estimated that the ship was within
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for a full half hour. Also, Audrey took me to the spot on

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Downey Street where she and Julia had
their close encounter. This little trip illustrated

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the importance of actually visiting these sights
because I realized it was less than two

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miles her old home and less than
a mile as the UFO flies from her

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first encounter. The Downey Street location
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encounter, across an expanse of open
farm fields. When you see how close

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together her old house and the sighting
locations were, it's hard to believe it

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was all a coincidence. Hudson RhE
Radio dot Com. The dot com makes

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it cool. Pine Island, New
York, nineteen seventy three. In nineteen

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seventy three, Debbie went to stay
with her grandmother after the elderly woman had

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a stroke. Her grandmother's house was
in Pine Island, in the Black Dirt

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region of southern Orange County, New
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Debby was fifteen years old and she
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her grandmother. The house was in
quite an isolated area out in the fields,

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and there was just one small stand
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night there, Debby, who was
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the living room, found herself restless
and awake most of the night. She

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finally got up and started walking around
the house. Through a large picture window

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in the living room, she noticed
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She assumed it must be a street
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other street lights in the area.
The fourth or fifth time she looked out,

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the light was gone. As she
stood by the window, wondering what

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had happened. To her surprise and
fear, she saw a bright ball of

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light hover about a foot or two
off the ground. The light appeared as

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if it was looking into the downstairs
window of the house. Sensing that the

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light was going to come up to
the picture window, Debbi became really scared

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and tried to hide, crouching on
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started praying to God to help her, and she clenched her eyes shut.

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Tense moments passed, and when she
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there was the light in the window. It was about the size between a

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grapefruit and a cantalope, and it
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Up to this point, the light
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quote flashed. I remembered it flashing
three times, and you could feel the

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vibrations in the air and this energy
surging with each flash. You could hear

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it and you could feel it.
It was like a sound. I was

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just shaking with fear, saying,
God, get me out of this,

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get me through this. I don't
want to know this. Then the next

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thing I remember, it was several
hours later. It was morning and I

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was waiting for my grandmother to wake
up. Debbie told her what had happened,

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and the woman said, no,
no, no, you were just

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dreaming. Debby told her it was
real, but her grandmother insisted she had

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only been dreaming. She then called
her mother and told her about the strange

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light, but her mother also said
it was either a dream or she was

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making it up. The two women
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convinced her to stay another night.
Debbie went to a circus that evening and

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tried to forget about what had happened. She got home about eleven PM and

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her grandmother was already in bed.
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house, she became frantically scared,
she said, as the light had returned

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behind the trees again. She prayed
that whatever it was would go away,

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because quote, I didn't want to
see anything, I didn't want to know

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anything. Debbie has no more recollections
of the rest of the night, as

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the next thing she knew it was
morning. The whole night had become missing

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time. This time, when she
called home, she insisted that her mother,

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come and get me, because I
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Her mother did come and brought her
back to Middletown, but the story doesn't

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end there. As Debbie was changing
her clothes, she noticed she had three

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strange marks on her abdomen below and
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They were sort of circular and sort
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but they were perfectly space between one
another and the outer image. There

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was no flaw, she said,
describing the smooth outlines of the reddish marks

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that were positioned in a perfect equilateral
triangle, as if they had been made

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by some instrument or machine. She
showed the marks to her mother and a

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few of her friends, and the
bizarre triangle lasted about three weeks until it

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finally faded away. I first heard
Debby's account when I was at a meeting

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of the United Friends Observer Society in
Pine Bush in June of twenty twelve.

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It was her first meeting, and
as she had finally decided after all these

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years to tell her story, she
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realized she was in the right place
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Because before she could describe them.
Some of the other female attendees asked if

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the marks had been below her navel
on the left side, and if they

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had been, there had been three
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The women who posed those questions had
personal experiences similar to Debby's and had

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received the same marks in the same
location. After the meeting, I gave

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Debby my card and told her about
my project. I hoped that she would

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let me use her story in the
book and film, but after a week,

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when I didn't hear from her,
I had pretty much given up hope.

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Then I received the following email.
You and I met at the last

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Pine Bush UFO meeting in the Walker
Valley school House. I told the story

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of my experience with the UFO abduction
when I was fifteen at my grandmother's house

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in Pine Island. You were intrigued
and asked if I would be interested in

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telling my story for a documentary you
were putting together. I have given it

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some thought and decided to do it
with the understanding that I would like to

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be kept anonymous. A few weeks
later, Sarah and Felix Olivierian I met

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at Debbie's house to film the interview. She was understandably a little nervous,

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but I assured her that the beauty
of video was that everything could be edited,

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and she if she felt something wasn't
quite right, we could do it

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again. And thank god this wasn't
a live broadcast, because just as the

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cameras started rolling, Debbie told me
there was a quote large gap in my

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blouse along the button line. It
was a new shirt and I thought the

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bright blue colors would look great on
camera, but didn't realize that when I

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sat down, the spaces between the
buttons kind of open outward. Sarah came

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to the rescue to remedy this wardrobe
malfunction with bright yellow duct tape. I

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carefully placed the pieces of tape on
the inside of my shirt and between the

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buttons and hoped that it would not
show and would hold together long enough to

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finish the interview. As Felix put
it, it was all footage for the

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blooper reel. Once I had battened
down my hatches, we began. Debbie

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told her story with true feeling and
emotions, and I wished the audience would

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have had the opportunity to see her
eyes and expressions as she spoke, but

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we were honoring her request to have
her image concealed. When she finished recounting

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the Pine Island experiences, I asked
if she had ever had any other unusual

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things happened before that. I always
thought it was my first experience, but

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then after going to the meeting,
it made me realize there were more things

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that had happened earlier in my life. I had to have been younger than

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ten because it was a certain house
that we lived in, and I remember

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this family of ghosts visiting me.
There were two adults and two children.

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Every night, I would sleep with
my bedroom door open, and this family

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of ghosts would literally stand in the
doorway entrance and they would just stand there,

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peacefully and quietly. And I remember
that after they were visiting me for

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a couple of weeks or longer,
that it became a nuisance to me.

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I was never afraid of them,
but they became a nuisance to me.

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Why do you refer to them as
ghosts? I asked? What did they

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look like? They were again,
perfection, a beautiful white, not a

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brilliant, bright white, but they
were a beautiful, perfectly formed white.

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And the reason I say they were
two adults and two children, as that

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two were taller and two were shorter, and they just stood there peacefully.

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But when it became a nuisance and
it was interfering with me trying to fall

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asleep, I closed the bedroom door
and they never bothered me again. I

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then asked Debby if anything had happened
prior to these white beings at her bedroom

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door. She replied that when she
was very young, she had a lot

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of nightmares. Having had children of
her own, she eventually realized that children

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do have nightmares, but hers were
almost every night and always with a similar

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theme. I'm not going into the
details, she said, but they always

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had to do with being kidnapped,
the process of being kidnapped. I asked

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if she had any dreams since she
had told her story the meeting. Actually,

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yes, I have been noticing I
have been having dreams. They are

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like an intrusion of my privacy,
she replied, choosing her words carefully.

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Just things that I'm trying to get
away from, things that I can't escape.

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Do you think the fact that you're
speaking about this more memories are coming

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up, I suggested, It's possible, or I'm just becoming more aware of

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things that have been Debby replied,
thoughtfully, any of your children or grandchildren

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ever have experiences, I asked,
Not that I know of. She said,

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no, have your parents or other
family members ever mentioned anything unusual?

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I asked, continuing this line of
questioning, as experience had taught me that

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these people often had relatives who also
had some type of encounter. Actually,

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Debbie began slowly as a light seemed
to be dawning in her mind. My

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mother had an experience when I was
again, probably under the age of ten,

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when we were in that one house. She had this experience where she

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kept seeing a light but it wasn't
a bright light, and she wanted to

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tell us, but nobody believed her, and she was like, really,

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really, this really happened. And
I remember she woke us up one night

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and looking out the front door of
the house and this light that looked like

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the moon, that type of light. It was in the sky, and

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it came forward and got larger,
but I don't remember the size. It

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was so many years ago, but
I remember this moonlight light coming closer,

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zooming in, and then zooming out. But that's the only other thing,

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Okay, Well, that's important,
I replied, not at all surprised that

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these sightings extended over many years into
different family members. With all of my

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research and interviews, I knew a
pattern when I saw one. You know,

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you don't start thinking about things until
you start thinking. Debbie stated a

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point which emphasized the importance of examining
the big picture of any suspected UFO case.

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Things that at first seemed completely unrelated
could be important pieces of the whole

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puzzle. Have you ever been under
hypnosis or planned to be? I asked,

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no. She replied, Okay,
the incident that occurred when you were

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fifteen definitely frightened you. How have
you felt in the decades since. Ah?

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Mostly I just push it aside as
a life experience. But at the

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same time, it kind of irks
me in what way? I asked,

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Surprised? It makes me curious as
to what it all means, what it

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could mean later on. I think
that's why I went to the meeting at

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Pine Bush, because I thought I
would learn something more or become aware of

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what's happening, And sure enough I
did. I was surprised to see all

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of those people. There were a
lot more people than I expected, and

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they knew stuff that I didn't even
know was occurring. Debbie then got chills

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recalling how the women at the meeting
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and she thought, my god,
this is something that's happened to other

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people. I admit to having goosebumps
too, as she recalled that moment.

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I remember at the time thinking,
how do they know where the marks were?

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Did this meeting then give you a
kind of comfort, I asked,

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knowing that there are other people.
Yes, I'm anxious to go to the

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next meeting, Debby replied, smiling
with a sense of relief she didn't have

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to remain silent any longer, and
that there were other people out there who

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would not only listen to her,
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how would you categorize all of your
experiences? Positive? Negative, or a

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mixture? I asked. I feel
like I'm in the loop, she replied

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with a laugh. You know,
I feel like something inevitable, something of

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ventual, is going to occur for
everyone to understand, and I'm like two

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steps ahead of them. While Debby
admits she still has a little fear in

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her she is opened and curious about
the field of UFO research and wants to

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learn more. She doesn't know she
will have any more personal encounters, but

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at this point in her life she
has more curiosity than fear. I concluded

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the interview by asking Debby what advice
she had for other people who may have

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had a similar experience. Don't take
it personally in the sense that you ridicule

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yourself or allow others to ridicule you. Understand that there are thousands upon thousands

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of other people that have experienced similar
things, and just have an open mind.

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Try not to be afraid of it, but be wise. Hudson River

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