Hudson River Radio dot com. This is Travis Walton and you are listening to
UFO Headquarters Fuiful. Welcome everyone. This is a slightly different episode with the
holidays and vacations and scheduling. Just couldn't get a regular episode together. So
it's just me tonight and I will be reading two stories of possible abduction from
my book Hudson Valley UFOs the best evidence. So put up your feet,
close your eyes, and unless you're driving a car, that wouldn't be good,
but relax, maybe turn the lights down low, and hope you enjoy
the following two episodes, which will begin right after the first break. Millerton,
New York, June nineteen seventy two. It was June of nineteen seventy
two and Audrey Garay was driving home from Sharon, Connecticut, where she worked
the second shift at a hospital. Her mother had watched her five month old
son that night, and she was driving both of them back to her house
in Millerton, New York. It was about eleven fifty pm and they were
on Coleman Station Road, heading towards Route twenty two. The sky was clear
and the stars were shining. Suddenly, the two women noticed a starlike light
in the sky that was twinkling blue, red, and green. At the
same time, both of them said, look at that plain. They had
no sooner spoken those words. When the small light descended so rapidly it looked
as though it was falling out of the sky. They both put their hands
over their ears because they didn't want to hear that terrible sound of the plane
that was obviously about to crash into the ground. In the blink of an
eye, however, the bright object came to a complete dead stop right in
front of them, and it absolutely wasn't a plane. It was a disc
shaped object that hovered about fifty feet in front of the car at an altitude
of about fifty to seventy five feet. It was at least the size of
two houses, Audrey said. It had a dome on top a silvery metallic
color, and just beneath the dome were a bank of rectangular windows. The
bottom edge was ringed with a bright, multicolored light that appeared to rotate.
The only sound they heard was a hum, a very soothing, soft hum,
she said, But that's where the soothing part ended. The craft was
brightly lit on the inside, and Audrey and her mother could clearly see the
occupants through the windows. Although Audrey remembers their being about six figures, her
mother adamantly maintained she could count seven. However, that wasn't really the most
important observation. There was something they both agreed upon, and it is arguably
the most unsettling aspect of this case. They were definitely non human, and
I will take that to the grave. Audrey told me we could see them
from about mid chest up. Their faces were pear shaped, and they had
huge black eyes that were almost almond shaped. Their chests were concave, and
their shoulders and arms were very thin and very spindly. They had grayish skin,
no clothes, and the interior was so brightly lit we could see what
looked like computers or control panels. I asked what these figures were doing,
and Audrey replied they were looking right at us. The six or seven strange
figures and the two terrified women stared at one another for about forty five seconds.
Then a brilliant blue white light came out at an angle from underneath the
craft and lit up the car like lightning. The blinding light hurt their eyes
and they raised their hands to shield their faces. Then, just as suddenly,
the light and the craft were gone, but as their eyes were readjusting
to all the darkness, they could still hear that distinctive humming sound. Mom
Where is it, Audrey asked, straining to see where the huge craft could
have gone. So quickly, Audrey, it's above the car. Her mother
shouted, it's right above the car. That was the moment Audrey experienced the
most terror, not for herself but for her baby. She had no idea
what was happening, but her primary concern was to get her son to safety.
They waited breathlessly as the seconds ticked by, then one minute, then
another. Finally, the edge of the craft inched over the windshield and came
into sight. Maintaining the same low altitude, The large discs slowly moved ahead
of the car, following every bend in the road. She waited until the
craft was about a hundred feet ahead of her before she eased the car forward.
Audrey didn't want to catch up with the craft and its bizarre occupants,
but she had to take that road if they were to get home. At
the creeping rate of about five miles per hour, Audrey drove of the rest
of the way on that road, a distance of one point six miles,
she later measured, with the frightening craft just five or six car lengths ahead.
She reached the intersection of Route twenty two, where they saw another car
that had pulled over so the driver could watch the slow moving disk. The
craft continued to remain directly in front of them on Route twenty two, but
when Audrey turned down her street McGhee Hill Road, they finally lost sight of
the craft, but not before noting it was heading in the direction of Albany.
Audrey told her husband what they had witnessed, and he thought they were
just crazy. As they had no camera, there was no way to prove
what they had seen, or so they thought. The next day, Audrey's
mother was watching television and she yelled to her daughter to come and look.
There was a newscast about two New York States policeman who saw the same disc
shaped craft the night before around two am in Albany. Unfortunately, the newscasters
were making fun of the report, and it was clear they all thought it
was a big joke. At that point, Audrey decided she had to report
their sighting to someone, so she called the Civil Defense Department in Poughkeepsie.
She expected that they would either hang up or laugh at her, but instead,
they carefully took down all of the details of her sighting, including the
direction the craft took. When she was finished telling her story, she voiced
her surprise that they were taking her seriously. The man replied, ma'am,
we've had hundreds and hundreds of reports coming in all night long. Audrey was
even further surprised when he admitted, we have been tracking the object. So
what was done about this mysterious craft seen by hundreds of witnesses, including the
state police in nineteen seventy two a craft being tracked by Civil Defense? Apparently
nothing, as no word about the incident was ever heard on the news again.
About seven months later, Audrey was just getting into bed when she heard
her dog and all of the dogs in the neighborhood start barking frantically, and
she was wondering what could be going on. She heard the distinctive and unmistakable
humming sound again directly over her house. She tried to wake her husband,
but found she couldn't move or speak. Once again. She was afraid for
her child in the next room, but she was powerless to help him.
Audrey was certain she was not asleep, as she had just gotten into bed.
The paralysis lasted about three or four hours, and then just at sunrise,
the humming ceased and she was suddenly released. She jumped out of bed
and ran to her son's room. She checked him all over for any kind
of injuries, but he was apparently unharmed. When her husband awoke, she
told him the story, but he hadn't heard a thing. Later that day,
she asked neighbors what they thought about all the dogs barking all night,
but they hadn't heard anything either. There were no more encounters over the next
six years, and despite her fear for her son's safety, Audrey's attitude toward
the strange visitors changed. I think they chose me to talk about them because
they somehow knew I'm not one to be intimidated. I don't care if I'm
ridiculed for speaking about UFOs, because I'm confident in what I I saw and
I haven't stopped talking about it. Audrey actually grew to feel that she had
some sort of connection with the beings in the craft, and she was going
to get the opportunity to prove that. Around nineteen seventy eight, her husband
and cousin were away on business, so she and her cousin's wife, Julia,
decided to have a girl's night out. They went to the Red Barn
tavern in Millerton, but as soon as the ladies entered, they realized it
was not the kind of place for them. It was a very rough crowd,
she said, filled with bikers, so they left right away. They
decided to go to a nicer place in a Menia the tally Ho, and
took back road toward town. As they were driving on downy Road, Audrey
noticed an orange amber light in the sky. The light was diving then shooting
up things a plane could never do. Look at that ufo, she said
to Julia. Every time you see a light, you think it's a UFO,
Julia chided her. She then went on to make fun of Audrey and
laugh at her belief in aliens and spacecraft from another world. How could you
say it's not a UFO, Audrey replied, incredulous that her friend wouldn't believe
what she was seeing with her own eyes. Despite the inexplicable movement of the
light, Julia continued to mock Audrey. Then I thought to myself, I
wish it would please come closer so I could prove it to Julia. Audrey
explained, No, sooner had I thought that. When the light began rapidly
dropping altitude and headed straight for us, Julia began screaming for us to get
out of there because the object was suddenly right over the car. I was
just learning to drive a standard transmit, and Audrey said, and I stalled
the car several times, and each time Julia kept screaming for us to get
away. Once I got it going, the disc shaped craft continued to follow
right above the car for the next half mile, and Julia kept begging for
me to drive faster. We decided to head straight from my house, but
the disc stayed with us. It wasn't until we turned down McGhee Hill Road
that it broke off and went away. Julia was so traumatized she wouldn't drive
to her house alone, so Audrey's brother had to escort her from that night,
Julia was a firm believer and alien spacecraft. Also that night, Audrey
became convinced that she had some sort of telepathic connection with the beams. There
would be several other sightings over the years, but none so close again.
Audrey did see several types of craft, including some in the nineteen eighties that
were so massive she described them as flying cities. I asked if anything unusual
had happened to her when she was a child, and wasn't too surprised to
find out that something had occurred. In October of nineteen sixty one, when
she was eleven. She was outside with her twin brother and three friends when
they saw quote a thing with multi colored lights moved very very fast from horizon
to horizon. Oddly, her brother has no recollection of the event, which
at the time made quite an impression on everyone. Two of the friends have
since passed away, but the third witness is a man who retired after her
thirty five year long career in the Air Force. He still vividly recalls the
sighting and maintains that after a lifetime of dealing with all manner of aircraft,
he still never saw anything like that multi colored object in nineteen sixty one.
Although her twin brother couldn't recall that sighting, another brother was to have a
remarkable experience in two thousand and nine when he spotted a huge triangular craft.
It silently passed directly over him while he was driving, and he jumped out
of his truck and aimed a bright flashlight up at it. He described the
underside as quote rippling like liquid mercury. A very unique sighting to say the
least, and one that made him a firm believer too. So have all
these sightings had any lasting impact on Audrey? Yes, as that night in
June of nineteen seventy two was nothing left than life changing. All of my
ideas about religion changed. She told me, I just can't buy into all
that anymore. There's something so far beyond that. I feel honored that they
chose me. I can stand to the ridicule because I trust my own eyes,
and I trust my own judgment, and I feel like their family.
It's cool. A couple of days after my interview with Audrey, she emailed
me that she had tracked down Julia, who was now living in North Carolina.
I called and left a message, and the next day Julia and I
spoke so I could get her side of the story of what happened that night
in nineteen seventy eight. There are some details of that night I don't recall,
but there are things that are so clear I will never forget, Julia
began. She and Audrey had gone to the bar that night, hoping to
meet some friends, but there wasn't anyone there that they knew, so they
left right away. Julia was letting Audrey drive her car as she wanted to
learn how to drive a standard transmission. As they were driving down a road
that had big flat fields on either side, Audrey pointed to a strange light
in the sky that was making odd turns and drawing closer. All of a
sudden, it was right above us, she said, excitement still noticeable in
her voice over thirty years later. I was screaming at Audrey to drive faster.
She kept stalling the car, and I was yelling at her to let
me drive. I was scared. Julia described the circular metallic craft as having
bright lights, and it wasn't flat. There were ridges on the bottom.
She said, she has no idea how long the craft was above them,
and their very well could have been missing time. But the light disappeared as
suddenly as it had come. She was still so frightened when she got back
to Audrey's house that she asked Audrey's brother to follow her home, but she
admitted, of course, now that I think about it, what could he
have done. Julia was scared for quite a while after the event, but
despite the fear, she learned to never doubt that UFOs are out there.
About five or six years later, Julia had another sighting, but this one
was different in a number of ways. First of all, this ufo was
not circular. It was clearly triangular, and it didn't come nearly as close.
Also, as Julia didn't doubt the existence of UFOs, she was a
little more prepared this time, so she wasn't as scared. Many others around
the area saw the same triangle that night, including her husband, who saw
it from another location, so she didn't have the burden of trying to get
her family and friends to believe what she saw. So how did that first
sighting influence her life? I am much more open to things. I'm glad
I did see it because then I knew something more is out there. I'm
not afraid anymore, although I sometimes wonder if we were abducted that night.
Here's an addendum to the story. On a hot and humid Friday, August
seventeenth, twenty twelve, Sarah and Felix Olivieri, who I worked with making
the film In the Night Sky, met at Audrey's home in Sharon, Connecticut
to interview her for the film. I was a little early, and Audrey
and I sat in her kitchen talking about all kinds of things. Audrey has
an amazing sense of humor, and I was laughing my rear end off at
her stories. When Sarah and Felix arrived, Felix made some preliminary sketches of
the circular craft Audrey had seen. Then I went to Audrey's car, and
Sarah and Felix followed us on the exact course that Audrey, her mother,
and son took that night in June of seventy two. We stopped in the
road right where she had stopped forty years earlier. This is where we had
chosen to conduct the on camera interview with Audrey. And while it was visually
a great location, other aspects made it less than ideal for starters. The
stench of fresh manure from the farm fields was so overpowering that I had to
suppress a gag when the wind blew our direction. Then there were the flies
and bees that kept landing on us. After the cameras were rolling. We
tried to Sarah titiously swathed them away, But when a fly lands on the
tip of your nose, not once, but twice, there's just no way
it's going to look good on the big screen. So I silently hoped Felix
would do some creative editing. Despite the sickening odor and bugs, it was
fascinating to hear Audrey's story at the exact location where her first sighting occurred.
It was even more I opening when we drove the few miles to her old
house and I realized just how long this sighting actually took. All in all,
she estimated that the ship was within fifty to one hundred feet of her
for a full half hour. Also, Audrey took me to the spot on
Downey Street where she and Julia had their close encounter. This little trip illustrated
the importance of actually visiting these sights because I realized it was less than two
miles her old home and less than a mile as the UFO flies from her
first encounter. The Downey Street location was essentially due north from the Coleman Station
encounter, across an expanse of open farm fields. When you see how close
together her old house and the sighting locations were, it's hard to believe it
was all a coincidence. Hudson RhE Radio dot Com. The dot com makes
it cool. Pine Island, New York, nineteen seventy three. In nineteen
seventy three, Debbie went to stay with her grandmother after the elderly woman had
a stroke. Her grandmother's house was in Pine Island, in the Black Dirt
region of southern Orange County, New York, known for its onion farms.
Debby was fifteen years old and she wanted to do whatever she could to help
her grandmother. The house was in quite an isolated area out in the fields,
and there was just one small stand of trees near by. The first
night there, Debby, who was supposed to be sleeping on the couch in
the living room, found herself restless and awake most of the night. She
finally got up and started walking around the house. Through a large picture window
in the living room, she noticed a bright light behind a stand of trees.
She assumed it must be a street light, even though there weren't any
other street lights in the area. The fourth or fifth time she looked out,
the light was gone. As she stood by the window, wondering what
had happened. To her surprise and fear, she saw a bright ball of
light hover about a foot or two off the ground. The light appeared as
if it was looking into the downstairs window of the house. Sensing that the
light was going to come up to the picture window, Debbi became really scared
and tried to hide, crouching on the floor against the couch. She then
started praying to God to help her, and she clenched her eyes shut.
Tense moments passed, and when she dared to look, quote, sure enough
there was the light in the window. It was about the size between a
grapefruit and a cantalope, and it was a beautiful, brilliant, blinding white.
Up to this point, the light had been steady, but it now
quote flashed. I remembered it flashing three times, and you could feel the
vibrations in the air and this energy surging with each flash. You could hear
it and you could feel it. It was like a sound. I was
just shaking with fear, saying, God, get me out of this,
get me through this. I don't want to know this. Then the next
thing I remember, it was several hours later. It was morning and I
was waiting for my grandmother to wake up. Debbie told her what had happened,
and the woman said, no, no, no, you were just
dreaming. Debby told her it was real, but her grandmother insisted she had
only been dreaming. She then called her mother and told her about the strange
light, but her mother also said it was either a dream or she was
making it up. The two women simply refused to believe her, and they
convinced her to stay another night. Debbie went to a circus that evening and
tried to forget about what had happened. She got home about eleven PM and
her grandmother was already in bed. Shortly after a ri having back at the
house, she became frantically scared, she said, as the light had returned
behind the trees again. She prayed that whatever it was would go away,
because quote, I didn't want to see anything, I didn't want to know
anything. Debbie has no more recollections of the rest of the night, as
the next thing she knew it was morning. The whole night had become missing
time. This time, when she called home, she insisted that her mother,
come and get me, because I don't want to be here anymore.
Her mother did come and brought her back to Middletown, but the story doesn't
end there. As Debbie was changing her clothes, she noticed she had three
strange marks on her abdomen below and to the left of her navel quote.
They were sort of circular and sort of oval, but not perfectly circular oval,
but they were perfectly space between one another and the outer image. There
was no flaw, she said, describing the smooth outlines of the reddish marks
that were positioned in a perfect equilateral triangle, as if they had been made
by some instrument or machine. She showed the marks to her mother and a
few of her friends, and the bizarre triangle lasted about three weeks until it
finally faded away. I first heard Debby's account when I was at a meeting
of the United Friends Observer Society in Pine Bush in June of twenty twelve.
It was her first meeting, and as she had finally decided after all these
years to tell her story, she was hesitant to speak at first, but
realized she was in the right place to mention the marks on her abdomen.
Because before she could describe them. Some of the other female attendees asked if
the marks had been below her navel on the left side, and if they
had been, there had been three of them in the shape of a triangle.
The women who posed those questions had personal experiences similar to Debby's and had
received the same marks in the same location. After the meeting, I gave
Debby my card and told her about my project. I hoped that she would
let me use her story in the book and film, but after a week,
when I didn't hear from her, I had pretty much given up hope.
Then I received the following email. You and I met at the last
Pine Bush UFO meeting in the Walker Valley school House. I told the story
of my experience with the UFO abduction when I was fifteen at my grandmother's house
in Pine Island. You were intrigued and asked if I would be interested in
telling my story for a documentary you were putting together. I have given it
some thought and decided to do it with the understanding that I would like to
be kept anonymous. A few weeks later, Sarah and Felix Olivierian I met
at Debbie's house to film the interview. She was understandably a little nervous,
but I assured her that the beauty of video was that everything could be edited,
and she if she felt something wasn't quite right, we could do it
again. And thank god this wasn't a live broadcast, because just as the
cameras started rolling, Debbie told me there was a quote large gap in my
blouse along the button line. It was a new shirt and I thought the
bright blue colors would look great on camera, but didn't realize that when I
sat down, the spaces between the buttons kind of open outward. Sarah came
to the rescue to remedy this wardrobe malfunction with bright yellow duct tape. I
carefully placed the pieces of tape on the inside of my shirt and between the
buttons and hoped that it would not show and would hold together long enough to
finish the interview. As Felix put it, it was all footage for the
blooper reel. Once I had battened down my hatches, we began. Debbie
told her story with true feeling and emotions, and I wished the audience would
have had the opportunity to see her eyes and expressions as she spoke, but
we were honoring her request to have her image concealed. When she finished recounting
the Pine Island experiences, I asked if she had ever had any other unusual
things happened before that. I always thought it was my first experience, but
then after going to the meeting, it made me realize there were more things
that had happened earlier in my life. I had to have been younger than
ten because it was a certain house that we lived in, and I remember
this family of ghosts visiting me. There were two adults and two children.
Every night, I would sleep with my bedroom door open, and this family
of ghosts would literally stand in the doorway entrance and they would just stand there,
peacefully and quietly. And I remember that after they were visiting me for
a couple of weeks or longer, that it became a nuisance to me.
I was never afraid of them, but they became a nuisance to me.
Why do you refer to them as ghosts? I asked? What did they
look like? They were again, perfection, a beautiful white, not a
brilliant, bright white, but they were a beautiful, perfectly formed white.
And the reason I say they were two adults and two children, as that
two were taller and two were shorter, and they just stood there peacefully.
But when it became a nuisance and it was interfering with me trying to fall
asleep, I closed the bedroom door and they never bothered me again. I
then asked Debby if anything had happened prior to these white beings at her bedroom
door. She replied that when she was very young, she had a lot
of nightmares. Having had children of her own, she eventually realized that children
do have nightmares, but hers were almost every night and always with a similar
theme. I'm not going into the details, she said, but they always
had to do with being kidnapped, the process of being kidnapped. I asked
if she had any dreams since she had told her story the meeting. Actually,
yes, I have been noticing I have been having dreams. They are
like an intrusion of my privacy, she replied, choosing her words carefully.
Just things that I'm trying to get away from, things that I can't escape.
Do you think the fact that you're speaking about this more memories are coming
up, I suggested, It's possible, or I'm just becoming more aware of
things that have been Debby replied, thoughtfully, any of your children or grandchildren
ever have experiences, I asked, Not that I know of. She said,
no, have your parents or other family members ever mentioned anything unusual?
I asked, continuing this line of questioning, as experience had taught me that
these people often had relatives who also had some type of encounter. Actually,
Debbie began slowly as a light seemed to be dawning in her mind. My
mother had an experience when I was again, probably under the age of ten,
when we were in that one house. She had this experience where she
kept seeing a light but it wasn't a bright light, and she wanted to
tell us, but nobody believed her, and she was like, really,
really, this really happened. And I remember she woke us up one night
and looking out the front door of the house and this light that looked like
the moon, that type of light. It was in the sky, and
it came forward and got larger, but I don't remember the size. It
was so many years ago, but I remember this moonlight light coming closer,
zooming in, and then zooming out. But that's the only other thing,
Okay, Well, that's important, I replied, not at all surprised that
these sightings extended over many years into different family members. With all of my
research and interviews, I knew a pattern when I saw one. You know,
you don't start thinking about things until you start thinking. Debbie stated a
point which emphasized the importance of examining the big picture of any suspected UFO case.
Things that at first seemed completely unrelated could be important pieces of the whole
puzzle. Have you ever been under hypnosis or planned to be? I asked,
no. She replied, Okay, the incident that occurred when you were
fifteen definitely frightened you. How have you felt in the decades since. Ah?
Mostly I just push it aside as a life experience. But at the
same time, it kind of irks me in what way? I asked,
Surprised? It makes me curious as to what it all means, what it
could mean later on. I think that's why I went to the meeting at
Pine Bush, because I thought I would learn something more or become aware of
what's happening, And sure enough I did. I was surprised to see all
of those people. There were a lot more people than I expected, and
they knew stuff that I didn't even know was occurring. Debbie then got chills
recalling how the women at the meeting had described the three marks on their abdomens,
and she thought, my god, this is something that's happened to other
people. I admit to having goosebumps too, as she recalled that moment.
I remember at the time thinking, how do they know where the marks were?
Did this meeting then give you a kind of comfort, I asked,
knowing that there are other people. Yes, I'm anxious to go to the
next meeting, Debby replied, smiling with a sense of relief she didn't have
to remain silent any longer, and that there were other people out there who
would not only listen to her, but understand what she had experienced. So
how would you categorize all of your experiences? Positive? Negative, or a
mixture? I asked. I feel like I'm in the loop, she replied
with a laugh. You know, I feel like something inevitable, something of
ventual, is going to occur for everyone to understand, and I'm like two
steps ahead of them. While Debby admits she still has a little fear in
her she is opened and curious about the field of UFO research and wants to
learn more. She doesn't know she will have any more personal encounters, but
at this point in her life she has more curiosity than fear. I concluded
the interview by asking Debby what advice she had for other people who may have
had a similar experience. Don't take it personally in the sense that you ridicule
yourself or allow others to ridicule you. Understand that there are thousands upon thousands
of other people that have experienced similar things, and just have an open mind.
Try not to be afraid of it, but be wise. Hudson River
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