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evening, Sasquatch Experience Monday, November thirteenth, twenty twenty three. And again,
if you saw the intro, you know who the hell we are.
It's great to be back here tonight, guys. Supposed to be last week,
but I was sick last week and we just it wasn't going to happen.
And between moving from the home to our studio, as you see,
I've been kind of putting all over social media over the last few weeks.
We're almost there, guys, probably fifty five percent complete, but we're complete
enough to get in here and do some show. So how y'all do one.
It's been It's great to see you, NoHo. I'm doing well.
Thank you very much. I appreciate it. I know you and myself Sean
kind of missed out there a little bit, but we're all back. We're
alternating weeks vans you and I was so but again and do our partners here
Henry Baker and Matt. Thank you guys for you know, being patient with
us as we've had our issues. It's just great to be here together to
do a show tonight that's going to be a fun show. Uh. And
actually we're going to heavily rely on Henry because the folks want Henry. They
want Henry May Yep, I'm sorry, it's a Falcon newsance. There you
have it. So we're going to rely on Henry tonight. Matt, good
to see you, my friend. Thank you for popping on with us,
our permanent co host here, the five of us doing our thing. So
guys, let's get started. What do we got, Where do we want
to go? What? Any news before we kick off? One thing I
didn't want to say. Larry Beans Baxter was live with Aaron Diese last night
on Dark Coast Hunt for the Alaskan Bigfoot after show. Always good to have
Larry. I can't get enough of Beans. He's a good dude, and
any time he gets on a program, I like to promote it. So
if you get a chance to go check that out over at the small Town
Monster sites and give Larry a little love for the hard work that he and
Alex and team did up there in Alaska this past summer. And hopefully the
audio is good for you folks, because there was a crank on YouTube who
was not happy with the quality, so we tried to improve it and he
never responded to my comment to him, so maybe he did us a favor
and pulled the bottom lip over his head and swallowed. I don't know,
grab your ears and pull your head out of your dark and remote place.
Bill in the Hill Rigby, Good evening, guys, Bill, thanks for
joining us. Thanks for coming in. Guys. As you comment, make
sure you allow stream Yard to see who you are, because if not,
all we get is Facebook user and then I have no idea who the hell
that is. So we want to thank you personally for coming in, but
we can't thank you if we don't know who the hell you are. So
go ahead, Matt. We were going to talk on something that I stepped
on you. You know what I was gonna say, I I just watched
the latest episode from the Small Town Monsters with the Alaskan Experience. Excellent,
excellent show. Now the Young Lady that they had on her that that they
just brought out to area, to their area. I can't think of her
name offhand, but she did state that she was originally from Pennsylvania and now
she's out in the Pacific Northwest excuse with the BFR right man BFR Olympic project.
I can't think of I can't recall her name. It does, but
the fact that she's from Pennsylvania is actually a good thing represent Pa, you
know, so that's that's always a good thing. So we are proud Pennsylvanians,
at least three of us on this show. Yes, so, uh.
But the the show itself, you know, it's really coming along.
I again, what what they show is they may not get something all the
time, you know, but it shows the you know, what they go
through when you know, just like we do when we're going up and checking
our areas out. You know, we may not get activity all the time,
but just the exploration, uh, seeing the different wildlife. They had
found a site where there was a possible links kill, which was you know,
that's something you know, you really don't see because they're very you know,
uh, you know, just they don't like to be you know,
come out in public. You know, you don't see them like squirrels or
raccoons. So for them to see that, to experience that, and uh,
you know, and then kid that to us, you know, the
viewers. Like I said, I can't say enough and Larry is doing a
fantastic job up there, so you know, Uh, it really is a
good, good series to watch. It is, And I have to say
that one of the things I like is that there's no over dramatization. You
get it as it happens, correct, and you know, and Alex even
says that several times in the program, like there's not a whole lot of
activity going on, but this happened, the humpback whales breaching in the middle
of the night. And they did put some of that audio in there that
was pretty awesome as you could hear like watery explosions. It was pretty cool.
Like it's there's nothing that celebrates what we do more than the truth.
And when you put that out there and show people that, yes, maybe
and oh, for the love of God. And over almost thirty years of
this, I've had a handful of encounters and I don't think people understand the
rarity of that. And as you go and look at that from a timeline.
A lot of times you're out there, nothing happens and it is boring.
And I like how they stay true to that. Yes very much.
Jeff Thomas one of our favorite social media personalities and friends. Jeffs Hello,
Jeff, what the fouc is this about? And guess what? We got
a bot so I can go ahead? And why the hell they click it
go away? How did I do that? Anyhow? Henry Vance, Henry,
you guys got anything? I got a little bit of news. Have
a brand new book that I want to highlight. This is called The Abominable
Snowman of California. Henry, show it up to the camera so we can
see it real close. There you go, flip it sideway so people can
see the thickness. Look at that. That is a folks. That is
a book. It's an abominable Bible pages. It's a lot about the history,
sometimes the unknown history of the track fine to the late fifties by Jerke
Crew and and and the Ray Wallace Construction Company. M There's also a good
bit about John Green or the Detendion, Tom Slick, Peter Burn, the
Tom the City Northwest exp It takes a more skeptical tack, but I high
they recommended because it really gives a great history and you can tell the author
really did his homework. Dustin seevers the author, he really did his homework
as far as looking into everything that was going on around that area, that
northern California in the late nineteen fifties and into the sixties as well, Henry.
And it goes pretty deep into some of these people, not just the
scenarios, but some of the people in the personalities in the field ten It's
a very good book. Folks check it out. It's worth every penny.
It's a big book, but definitely something any fan and enthusiast needs to get
themselves a whole hold on. And by the way, there's a lot of
books out there that are coming down the line. Some of them are very
volumeous, such as this one. But I like that. I like a
book with a little meat and potato, little meat and potato to it.
But speaking of meat and potatoes, we do also we're going to be talking
about Legend of Boggy Creek the Fouk Monster here. Lyle Blackburn's currently running a
two part episode called Roam of the Skunk ape on his Monstro Bizarro podcast,
if you can go check it out. Of Course, Lyle's pretty much written
the book, several books on the subject, and always great to hear his
take on the situation down there in the Boggy Creek area, And of course
Henry will probably be taking us into that here in just a couple of minutes.
Henry set it up for us, buddy, hear the Sulfur river flows.
Well, here's the thing. Some people still think that the whole thing
started in the fifties, or it started in nineteen seventy one, that there
were no signings before that. But the thing is, if you read Loud
Blackbirds excellent twenty twelve book, The Beast of Body Creek, there is so
much history that goes all the way back to the early nineteen hundreds, and
there are signings that go back that far. And Henry, now, one
of the things I was going to ask you, we were talking about when
we were doing this the swamp ape episodes. You found a couple articles that
went back to like the eighteen hundreds. Did you not were they relative to
the Boggy Creek or was it just a general vicinity type situation. It was
a general vicinity type deal, like you know, the one from seventeen twenty
one from here in Mississippi. That is the old if it was actually a
Sasquatch. Yeah, the oldest account ever. They even predates the eighteen eighteen
reports. And it says that what I was going through doing my homework on
this, there was a podcast called the Skeptoid Podcast, and they were talking
about the Fouc Monster in this particular article, and they found one from like
eighteen fifties in the Memphis Inquirer. And then another article from the Caddo Gazette,
which you know would be more local to the area, Harry Creatures.
And we didn't know, you know that they didn't have a general name.
They were wild men. They weren't Bigfoot. Bigfoot didn't come till later.
But Henry, go ahead, I stole your thunder there, buddy. Oh
it's okay, don't worry about it. And the thing is the legend of
Vai Creek movie which I'm wearing the hoodie right now of the boot was highlighting
thing to the from the nineteen forties, from the nineteen forties up to nineteen
seventy one, and Lyle writes quite a bit about the movie in his book
and even now the fa the two families that moved into the house, and
near the end of the movie the one family was supposed to be named Turner,
but actually their name was Taylor. But he had the Ford family which
had moved in, and they had and it was actually a brother, Bobby
Ford. But actually Bobby was married, even though the movie, the movie
didn't didn't say he was married. No, the movie kind of makes him
look like a younger bachelor type that was hanging out with a younger cousin and
they we're out fishing, and they kind of made him like the earnest p
worrel of the family, you know, kind of are how they portrayed him,
right, Uh yeah, let's be honest. Uh perhaps that was the
intent, just to make the movie a little bit more funny. I don't
know. But when that thing reaches the window, it is when he's a
minor, no matter how you no matter how you mind that even in the
South, it's against the law. Go ahead, Henry, keep going,
our southern expert. And of course Bobby he had a He had an interesting
counter possibly with the volume Creek Monster, where the thing rabbed him. Now
he had actually been out. He actually had was out looking for the creature
after his wife said that he's that she saw the red eyes, these cold
red eyes. They were like there were the size of silver dollars and it's
scared. The thing had reached through the window. Now that part of the
movie was true, Okay, but it attacking him when he was on the
john, that was artistic license, I think so. Yeah, that's the
best part of the movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he didn't have
a lot of time to wipe on that bathroom window. They were moving to
a home that does not have a bathroom window. Listen, man, this
was still He's lucky they had a bathroom that was more set up for an
outhouse. You know, No, I did it right. We had to
do a whole episode on Bigfoot attacking people and outhouses. I'm sure they'll be
information that there's definitely we're gonna have to find it. Yeah, if not
there at least in transit, you know, back and forth. You know,
some of these outhouses are a little farther away. Yeah, well that's
where the word squatch came from. From squat, you know, and then
they're like, that's where it came from I get it. Attention, listeners,
this show has officially derailed. One may say it's gone to the shitter.
Yeah. Yeah, but Henry there was the Ford. So what you're
saying is he went out looking for the creature after it went in through the
window. It reached in through the window. That's what sent him out,
and that's when he got attacked by this by this thing. Yeah, he
was attacked by the creature and as he was the thing is in the movie
they depicted steps going up to the board. It's actually like a ladder type
deal. Okay, there's a picture in the book. Mm hmmm, I
think I can right on the iPad. I changed the pages. I could
have had this prepared. Yeah, not that we were talking about the bathroom
thing, but yeah, no, that's there is a picture. I do
remember that, right, mm hmmm. Because the Fords rented the property from
the Simmons family. Yes, but I mean I think that that story,
you know, pretty much sets the tone for the Legend of Boggy Creek film,
even though it's you know, towards the end, they have that really
bad dragnet scene downtown and then they're flying down the highway to text our Canada
the hospital where he's in a state of shock, and we don't know if
he ever recovers. Actually, they did say that he recovered swiftly. Oh
did he Okay? Well, thanks for ruining that, Henry. My story
is more more scary and suspenseful. That's right. We don't know if you
ever recover. What if you took the Texas chainsaw massacre and combined it with
the legend of Boggy Creek and made a movie like that, you know that
would that would be primal rage. No, that wouldn't be well kind of
Maybe you're not You're not might not be wrong on that one. But you
know, when you think of the Fouk Monster and the legend of Boggy Creek,
that only touches on a handful of sightings. And what I didn't realize
until I sat down and started looking at this is there's dozens of sighting reports
from the nineteen oh eight Willie Smith and they show Willie Smith as the old
guy sitting there in the general store talking about how crazy the boy is,
his mama getting all riled up and sending him down here because some wild man
out in the farm or whatnot, and uh, but he his sister had
a sighting at the early nineteen hundred. So they don't talk about that in
the movie because they make Willy out to be that kind of grumpy landlord type
guy. But then they also have a Henry talked about that more because doesn't
he have something happen himself. Well, apparently he had. He had shot
at the thing back in the fifties. Okay, you know the line in
the movie. Yeah, well, mistress Willy Smith didn't believe me when I
said there was a wild, hairy creature in the woods. He believes me,
now, Willie, I remember that scene, go out there shooting,
shooting sasquadron. Interesting enough, though, this thing has three toes, not
five. Yeah. Were all the footprints, Henry that were taking to this
thing three toed footprints? Yes? But interestingly enough, a guy named Noel
Holmes had cast a five toes foot print in two thousand and four. Okay,
in the foul area. Both the left foot and the right foot,
both the left and the right foot were they were three toed. Yeah.
Well, back in nineteen seventy one, there were these tracks found in Willie
smith beanfield, three toe tracks, three toed footprints. Now, that for
us has caused quite a bit of controversy because primates usually don't have three toes
unless they're no a mutant. Right well, doesn't that kind of tie back
into what was it three toes or three fingers on the Missouri monster? Momo
momo? Rightmo? How big were those tracks that they found in the will
field? I think they were about maybe fourteen fifteen inches, so bigger than
that could be a turkey or or something, because you know, Matt and
I were out and we saw some pretty large bird tracks, but definitely couldn't
mistake that for anything else that wasn't a bird. I mean definitively. I
mean unless you got a freaking velociraptor tracks around down there. Oh my.
I mean, just to interject, the one thing when I hear about the
three toe footprints, either three toes or four toes, one thing I think
of is, you know, maybe whatever's making those prints could be balling up
the other digits when they're coming through so and especially back then, they may
not have had that skill in making that cast a rabe to get some digits.
But if you have maybe three stubby digits, maybe those other two digits
are are curled in and that could be consistent with somebody you know, going
through the swamp, right, yeah, maybe they don't want those smaller digits
to be exposed because you have snakes, you have alligators, you have you
know other things that would you know, try to nibble at them. You
know, not only that, but it might be more sensitive for pain,
so you kind of protect that from yeah, yeah, or it could be
too that in that mud, it's easier for that, you know, whatever's
making that track to have those the three inner toes to be more profound,
just to keep their balance. That makes perfect just my two cents on that
one. Right, No, I think that's good conversation because it's something that
we hadn't had a chance to talk about yet, and it was on my
list of topics to talk about. Was the foot kind of morphology of this
thing being a lot different than most things. And you make a lot of
point. And trust me, if you've ever banged your pinky toe off the
damn end table or the desk or whatnot, you learn how to walk a
little differently in your environment too, and to protect your digits. And you
know, again, you know, I often think about as this thing is
traversing swamps. When you have such dangerous creatures like alligators and you have venomous
snakes, I wonder what their tolerance to snakes are, like, I wonder
if they have the same response that we do. Something to think about,
right, And it's just, you know, much different than what we've seen,
because you don't get a whole lot of you don't get a lot of
three toed prints that aren't subjected to some other kind of bullshit in most areas,
right, you know, at least with falc it was kind of never
described to be anything more than just a hair covered humanoid being. Right,
and you start going to places than anything kind of associated with you know,
lesser toes is something maybe like a lizard mayn or like the Honey Island swamp
creature there, Henry or what have you, something a lot different than what
we have with the faluc monster, which I really truly believe in my heart
of hearts was a legitimate creature sighting a flap of sightings, though some people
would like you to believe that there's nothing more than anecdotal stories. Small town
monsters goes and revisits there not long ago and They did a wonderful documentary called
Bucky Creek Monster where they explore some of that and really tell some more of
this tale where I think there is when you've got law enforcement interest in it.
I don't call that anecdotal. You got to have something there that piques
their interests. So we'll get more into that in just a minute, because
it is time for us to jump into the news, folks. We'll be
right back. Sean Forker, Henry May, James Baker, vans Nesbitt,
Matt Arner Falcu will be back. BOS team a symbol. Ah, Yes,
welcome to Monday night. It's Monday already. Well, oh, this
is makeup Monday because I was out of sorts and then Sean was out of
sorts. But I can assure everybody that the physical condition of the Sasquatch Experience
Team is in fine working order. Mentally, I think the jury's still out
on that. But we're all back on this Monday on the Sasquatch Experience version
of the Bigfoot bull Horn. And this is the big distraction. Why Well,
because the world is on fire and our pants are on fire. Just
because of the fact that humans are the most violent creatures on this planet.
Could you imagine if a bigfoot has the ability to build a rocket out of
cut up water pipes and fire it out of the woods at its enemies.
Look, if we hear something like that, it probably would not surprise me
in the least. But like I said, welcome to the big distraction on
this Monday night. Let's take that big football. See what I did there,
bigfoot ball, and tee it up and kick things off. So,
according to the Washington National Guard, sightings in the state of Indiana has begun
during the late eighteen hundreds and into the nineteen hundreds. Findings usually consisted of
finding footprints and sporadic encounters and a few grainy photos and videos for really in
grainy photos and videos, those who claim to have seen a bigfoot have described
just about what everybody describes. The creature is large, an upright type of
ape to an act actual harry human, sometimes standing over eight feet tall,
and is described as powerfully built. So has Bigfoot found a home in Indiana?
Well, according to the BFRO, he's been an Indiana resident since nineteen
seventy five. But where did he come from? The Federal Bureau of Investigation
otherwise known as the FBI has previously looked into Bigfoot's existence, creating the now
declassified Bigfoot File. Unfortunately, though their studies which they found no real proof
of bigfoot and only provided evidence that the FBI does not endorse the existence of
bigfoot. In the state of Indiana, forty six out of the ninety two
counties have reported bigfoot sightings. Twenty one out of the ninety two counties reported
spotting bigfoot more than once. For example, in Monroe County, eight encounters
have been reported, some stemming from vocalizations heard by others and spotting a great
creature outside their homes. Some of the most recent encounters with bigfoot date back
to twenty twenty. The most recent encounter was in June of twenty twenty in
Washington County, and it was reported by two hikers where they heard knocking in
the woods. They describe the noise as if a baseball was hitting a bat.
Maybe just a ballgame in the woods now. Another encounter happened in May
of twenty twenty in Brown County, where a father and daughter spotted a creature
who appeared to be six foot tall, gray in color, and very very
strong looking. Prince were also said to be found in the area. So
where can you see Bigfoot? Well, that's the million dollar question. I
don't write these articles, people, I just read them. The states with
the most reports are Washington State, California, Florida, Ohio, and Illinois.
The most recent sighting was in May of twenty twenty three in Washington State,
where hikers reported possible Sasquatch vocals and stalking in the center of Harstein Island.
I said Harstein, not Epstein. If you would prefer to stay within
state lines, head to the woods and pay attention to the bfroro's website for
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this year and it runs through the nineteenth, which is a Sunday. And
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as always, until next time, keep those toes in the mud. Well,
thanks vance for the Big Football Horn news and more those exciting announcements.
If that didn't get your blood pumping, I don't know what did Sasquatch summit
this weekend. Cryptid cons also coming up. I believe it's also this weekend
in Lexington, Kentucky. And yeah, we're going to have to get some
feedback on We're gonna have to go to one at some point in time here.
I'm just it's great to be back here with you guys tonight. As
we talk about some faluc monster. Henry reports of this creature they go from
like the nineteen sixties, nineteen nineties and then nothing until like very sporadic for
the two thousands. What's your take on all this. Let's go a little
bit deeper into this. You know, it's a good question, and I
really can't explain why signings dropped off for a while, but then signings picked
up into twenty tens and there were signings. Most recent signings that I know
from that area, it's like twenty eighteen. I have a couple on here
in this website falcmonster dot Net from twenty twenty one, two and twenty twenty
one, which are newer. One was by a research or the other a
witness reports saying a hairy ape like creature run across the county road during daylight
hours. He is described it as looking like an orangutan with reddish hair,
And you know, that's something that's pretty standard for this creature. Its appearance,
brownish, reddish hair, kind of very lanky arms compared to its body,
like not a whole lot of pardon me, diversity in the look of
this thing. Like, it's pretty consistent from even the reenactments in the movie.
Make this thing pretty make it look just like the movie poster like it's
portrayed this way all the way through the majority's reports. One covered in black
hair in nineteen seventy four. I mean, but a lot of these were,
you know, consistently describing a very similar creature. And you know,
again we go back to people knowing their environment, knowing that these aren't bear.
We know what bears look like. I mean to say that all these
sighting words or bears is just a fallacy, that it's it's I just can't
when you're talking about people that know the outdoors, they know the environment,
they're avid outdoorsmen, their avid hunters. You got folks like the crab trees
who lived out and and lived off that land. They know what's out there.
And to say a bear, I think is kind of I don't know.
I think can we get past that, get past that at this point
now, in this stage of bigfootery, that most of us know the difference
between a bear and something else? Mm hmm, I've imagined so. And
one little note about the movie poster which is on my sweatshirt. It's a
nice cat. It was created by Ralph Now. Ralph created the basic look
for Star Wars trilogy. He also created the movie. He also created the
movie poster for Creature from Black Lake, Yeah, which is kind of a
Boggy Creek inspired movie as well. Absolutely, I like the Creature a Black
Lake. I think the movie is good. It's a much different tone than
the legend of Boggie Creek, right, legend of Boggie Creek. We could
almost kind of put that as like a dramatization documentary style type movie, where
Creature from Black Lake is a movie. It's definitely fictional and inspired. Still
good. I enjoyed it. If you haven't checked it out, folks,
I don't know what you're waiting for. Don't sleep on. It's the same
composer Heimimnoza Nava for creating music for Legend of a Creek, also composed the
music for Creature from Black Lake. Oh well, there you go another tie
in. Look at this Henry with the trivia throwing the trivia down, folks.
There's going to be a quiz next week, so make sure you're paying
like you know. And the Legend of Boggie Creek, the movie itself is
quoted, you know, by many researchers as their impetus for getting into the
field right, for creating their love for this monster. But it wasn't the
first thing I've seen. I grew up next to a video store and one
of the things that always captivated me was the image of this, you know,
the poster on the rental box, and like, man, I really
want to go check this out. And of course I wasn't able to see
it until I was like twelve, but it was fantastic. I loved it,
and that allure I don't. I think maybe it's that imagery that you
can see on Henry's and that movie poster that really kind of toned for it,
that CPA tone that kind of echoes even throughout the movie, and it
just takes you back. It's a hell of a remarkable movie to a very
interesting time that, in my opinion, hasn't slowed down. These sightings are
still happening, right J Michael, I have good news for you. You
said you like to see a black light blu ray. There is one on
Amazon. They really did a great job restoring the movie. By the way
it looks, it looks and sounds terrific. Don't try to touch me while
my pants are down. I'll fight you that I was really hoping that's referring
to the outhouse incident. Unless I miss something going on during the news break.
Okay, you comment me while my pants are down. Let's just say
there's gonna be a prison riot, now, you know, Henry. That's
interesting because in nineteen seventy one, the three toed tracks are discovered in Willie
Smith, soybean Field. But you're saying he had an encounter in the fifties
as well, But they don't really portray it that way. The kind of
the timeline's a little out of sync when you watch it the movie, right
yeah, because it makes it seem like he doesn't have an experience until later
on, after you know, he's already done mocked the boy and his mama
for the crew. Now, granted, that boy supposed to be Charles Peers
right as he's going and alerting the people at the at the five and dime
there, the boy was actually Chuck Peers Charles Pears, sure, but it
was supposed to be Charles Pears as a kid, right yeah. So I
mean, but so maybe we're just interpreting it a little strange. But you
know, the Bobby Ford things interesting because I didn't realize he was married.
Going back through this nineteen seventy one three well respected local residency, a monkey
light creature with long arms and dark hair run across Highway seventy one. Lots
of running across the highway and it's just a few shows ago. I said,
there's nothing remarkable about a highway crossing and realized when I said it,
how stupid I was, because yeah, it is pretty remarkable, right,
even though in terms of the Bigfoot reports that we get and we read,
it doesn't seem that remarkable. Put yourself in the positions are pretty remarkable situation.
Didn't they have that Georgia police video where they were Yes, yep,
that was Uh, that was down in Georgia. Uh, that was caught
in a dash cam. And now it was an early generation dash cam,
so it's it's not the best. Uh it Yuh. The technology now,
you know, is is so much greater in our dash cams. But that
was that was actually caught on a on a police uh video cam. I
believe he was Uh it was just on a normal call. He was just
doing transport, so it was nothing special. And this you know creature,
it just uh basically took the three steps, you know, like everyone says,
across and you see it on on that dash cam. Yeah, it's
interesting. No, No you didn't see it. No, you didn't see
that man anyway. J Michael ass. Have you seen the blu ray of
Buggy Creek. Is it worth purchasing? Yeah? It is. Jay Actually,
Bac and I went down to one of the premieres of it at the
Phoenixville, Pennsylvania, at the theater that was in the blob What was the
name of that theater for the Love of Christ, the Colonial Theater Colonial And
so it was myself, Baker and my son and daughter. It's a nice
theater, and we watched it and it was amazing to see it up on
the big screen in four K. And I'll tell you, I didn't remember
some of those scenes in the movie, so I think it was Henry.
I texted and said, Henry, I didn't know that when the Bobby and
the boy are down by the creek and they actually see the footprint down there.
I didn't know that was in the movie before because I don't ever remember
recalling it in the film. But I went and saw it. I'm like,
my god, it just seemed like there was so much more to the
movie, maybe because it was just such the grand scope of the large screen
I was seeing it in and the quality like it really takes you in.
It's visually stunning. It sounds great. They did a really good job with
the with the remastering. It was it was like the eleventh popular film of
that year. It made a good couple million, one hundred and sixty thousand
dollars budget, I mean, right figure, and it turned into a cult
classic. That's part of the reason why it's made money. I mean,
you got a lot of your movies as like it. Maybe that don't make
it may that's a lot of money, especially to too. Yeah, and
what with one hundred and sixty thousand dollars budget, that's like a that's like
a blockbuster, you know, yes, guy, yeah, big. But
the return on investment pretty good on that film. I'd say that showings of
that was not I do believe from what I recall, most of the showings
of that film was actually at drive in theaters. What's a drive in movie?
It really is that since that thing vance, You were around when this
came out, right, what was the when the legend Ofbagi Creek came out
and then the whole Do you remember a lot of news coming from that area
at the time of these strange creature sightings. To be honest with you,
I hadn't seen the movie until probably fifteen to twenty years after it was released.
Okay, so yeah, I was kind of lagging way behind on that
one. So I can't give you what the current tone was at the time
when it was released. But you know, when I saw it, I
on it completely fascinating because after the fact, I had already seen the PG
film and this just kind of starts to tie everything together in a nice little
pouch of Okay, something creepy is happening, and you know, that's what
really starts to spur a lot of interest. And I think a lot of
researchers that are younger than myself probably got tied into more interest in the field
because of that film and to let's take a look and see what might actually
exist, because it seems like the evidence is overwhelming. Yeah, there were
a lot of people that were inspired by legend of Boggie Creek. As we
talked to about the you know at the beginning of the show, you know
me, it was one of the things I came into later. It wasn't
necessarily, you know, something that was there now for me, But I
grew up, like I said, next to a video store. It was
that that little books, that little video sleeve that always caught my eye.
And there was that one I think it was another movie called Trog or something
like that, and then a couple other movies in there that were like all
kind of bigfooty and monster related, the you know b movie specials that you
know kind of came after that. Now, like just going back and you
go to the Foucmonster dot net. This person compiles all the accounts from various
resources Bile Blackburn's books, interviews, newspapers, books, databases. Now they
don't go into detail and depth, but they do just list them. And
like I said, guys, there's a ton of them on here that I
had no clue. That's actually Lyle Side Foucmonster dot Net. Yes, okay,
it does promote the casebook, but it didn't seem like it was.
It was it's written in the third person, then if that's the case,
which I respect that, it's okay, I refer to myself and third person
occasionally. Do fork Shot doesn't like that, Matt? What about yes,
sir, ar Kansas down there, Arkansas. Yeah, yeah, Well,
I'll tell you I was one of those people. I was a young kid,
you know, I grew up my dad was in the in the US
Navy, so we we bounced around quite a bit. And you know,
they have you know, anyone from the military knows you know, they have
what's called m w R Morale Welfare Recreation. And at that particular base where
my dad was stationed, uh, they had a little movie theater and every
Saturday night they would do you know, like one dollar movies. And that
one movie that I got to see that that really, you know, just
uh you know, sparked everything, was seeing the Legend of Boggy Creek.
One thing that I really thought though, was especially with the bathroom scene,
my uh, my relatives in uh rural Scruco County at the time, you
know, that that was the kind of place that they lived in. You
know, they lived in a house like that out in the woods. So
every time I was up there and it was dark, I'm like, oh,
you know, I hope I don't have to go to the bathroom and
nothing because someone's going to reach in, you know. But uh but really
ever since then, from that point forward, then I started getting that interest,
you know, going to the to the library. I was the one,
you know, not going into the into the regular science fiction books.
I was going into the you know, they they had him set in a
separate section which was you know with the monsters, you know, between you
know, Frankenstein the wolf Man, you know, the the little MGM books
that they had, and then and then in the back they would have something
like the John Green Book where they'd have you know, books by I remember
there was one book and I can't recall the name of it, but it
had a picture for Nate de Hindron out in front of the wooden statue,
the wooden uh carving a big foot, and I was like, oh my
god, you know, just seeing him in the flannel and everything. I'm
like, I'm like, that's where I want to be, you know,
and it just as a young kid. So it really did, uh you
know, spark that interest. Mm hm oh, I think we lost no
no youe J Michael Stanton how they met a family that claimed they had a
costume and ran across Highway seventy one off but that's kind of how you get
shot. Well, where was that happened? There was a guy that was
hit in a costume up in the Pacific Northwest? Was there not long ago?
In Montana? Las Vegas that started that way? The guy uh was
thrown up on the side of the road in a furry costume. The guy
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Yeah, that's not a good not a good choice. No, it's
not, and you know it's a it's a good point to call it out.
Matt is our safety officer here on the show. So yes, well,
oh, I was gonna say what One thing that I think I brought
up in past shows was when they were filming UH Return of the Jedi and
they were in the uh they were in California. They actually had armed security,
UH that would go with the actor Peter Matthew the UH while he was
while they were filming his scenes because of the fact that they thought that he
was gonna get shot uh by by by somebody looking looking for sasquatch and so
really, I mean, you know these people that that do hoax us and
and uh. We had a guy on Reddit uh in the Pennsylvania UH subreddit
that said that he was going across Central Pa, you know, wearing a
costume and and doing everything. I'm like, dude, that's gonna that's gonna
that you hurt. Yeah, that you're going to be on an obituary list
soon. Yes, Well, like yesterday, I'm driving back to the house
and a deer comes up out of the woods, out of nowhere. If
I wouldn't have been really watching, I'd be picking him out of my grill
or getting a new truck this week, you know, like that stuff happens
so quick. Don't your luck with it. But as we've said a billion
times, how much does all these shows and festivals and this that and speakers?
How easy do we make it for them to do these things? Because
we give them all the tools. Yes, you know, and then we
talk about that. We talk about that every week. We make it easy
for folk famous. If people think you're big foot and then you can take
the costume off and you're blah blah blah, or you could be getting hit
by a truck and then we're gonna and particularly with Southern culture, you know,
especially being in Arkansas. Yeah, Mississippi. You know somebody that's going
out there, they're they're they're gonna get shot, you know there, there's
yeah, no doubt about it. Yeah. Hell in our area, you'd
get shot. You know, someone sees it. I mean that that's just
Yet, when you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes, and that's
one of them. Like not a great idea. So, you know,
rerooting us back to this The Foulk Monster, you know, the movie kind
of set the tone that after the seventies and this that that stopped. But
it didn't. And that's the great thing. Like the reports amped up in
the eighties into the nineties, kind of petered off a little bit, and
then into the mid to late two thousands, twenty tens, into the twenty
twenties, they start picking up again. And I think I would attribute that
to the focus coming alive once again on this through guys like Lyle Blackburn,
the small town monsters folks you know, really responsible for this resurgence of interest
into u into these these topics and focusing on these small areas that this is
what these towns have there's a there's a monster mark down there. Now folks
can visit. Well there's been one for some time. You can still go
visit, get your picture taken out there by some snacks and goodies. I
shopped at the monster mart t shirts. You know, it is becoming a
kind of a local thing. But it wasn't always Henry associated positively. Folks
didn't like that. And when I went to Falcon I See Three with my
grandparents, the towns people were like, oh, this solid is a big
hoax started by a Smoky crab Tree. But it's interesting how the how the
town forty years later has embraced sort of embraced the creature, I'd say,
sort of embraced the legend that they have in their area. Well, it's
this underlying dark tourism thing, you know, it's what you have to bring
people to your area. Look at you, and they've seen it happen to
places like Point Pleasant, which have you know, embraced their spooky history and
have you know, revitalized and changed the area. And Henry, you know,
you make that point that the Crabtree family was you know kind of you
know, they particularly Smoky was the one that kind of perpetuated it and kept
it going. But there were also other prominent townspeople that had sightings of this
thing throughout the years, not just the Crabtree family, right right, what
was the name of the family, was it? This Searus family? The
girls that were there at the house, Marybeth close that window, baby,
you don't get draft, do you know what I'm talking about? Right?
Yeah, that's my second family. Yeah, the seriouss. That's another great
story, Henry. Yeah, how's that one go? When you're up here?
Well, well, apparently the the it was it was the one girl,
her mother, and her sister and there and their sister's baby. They
were alone in the house, no menfolk, and the baby was apparently getting
cold, so so so mary Beth was asked to hang something on the window,
like a sheet or something, a blanket. She was about to,
but she saw the thing the sheet, right, and she saw the thing
out in the yard, and it freaked her out and she faded. Yeah,
it's a great part of the movie. My wife is who's not a
fan of Sasquatch, can quote that line. She never misses the beat when
we're watching that movie. To get that get that line out. It's great.
It's a great movie. It is, and if so much of it,
like we focus on it because it does kind of give a great overview
and tail of the exciting of the real exciting time when this happened, like
that early seventies kind of time time leading up to the seventies. But then
nothing else hits on it until you know, Seth and team at Small Time
Monsters goes back and you know, the mid twenty tens and they you know,
investigate it, and then you start realizing there's a lot more stories down
there, some of them a lot more compelling than the ones that happened in
the in the seventies. Aside from the Ford story, which six of one
half dozen of the other if that was a you know, unembellished story or
whatnot. Still some of the stories, and I encourage you folks to go
check out Boggy Greek Monster. I don't like to give away spoilers for films.
I want you to do a little homework and watch them. But you
know, as he goes and talks of these witnesses and goes back to the
areas they have their encounters, they're genuine people. And that's the point I
want you to take away from it that this, this focus has happened this
you know, the predominant time was the seventies, but it never stopped and
it's still ongoing. And that's the best part about the folk Monster is the
fount Monster, you know, the Texarcana area, that something's still lurking along
the Sulfur River bottoms. I think. So I would say that watching the
Legend of Body Creek and then watching the while back of Blackburn's special immediately afterward
is the perfect you know, Saturday afternoon, you know experience. It's it's
almost like watching you know, a Star Wars film, you know, the
Star Wars films in a certain order, you have to watch that film first.
And then with Lyles, it's almost like a director's cut because he goes
in and takes you to those scenes that were in the movie and uh and
talks to the people and it really, it really is fascinating. So the
two of them, my opinion, should be watched one after another. Yeah,
absolutely, I agree with that, And we're going to try to get
Lyle on the program here. We haven't had Lyle on I don't I don't
know we've ever had them on Sasquatch Experience. I've had him on other programs
I've posted, but never on Sasquatch Experience. So we're all going to start
bringing some guests back, but we really wanted to spend some time with us,
the five of us, getting to know our audience and play with our
audience a bit. Was that Henry yelling at again again? Oh okay,
this show right? No? I would add one last thought. Okay,
and I know you guys touched on this earlier in this but I want to
kind of expound on it. The artwork, the poster artwork for Bobby Bobby
Creek Dude, that's creepy. Every time I see the artwork for it.
It's creepy because you just see this lumbering creature with one arm just hanging so
low into the water, and it's in the water and its hair covered,
and it's it's heading in a direction towards you. It's I don't know,
to me at this point right now, that is still magnificent artwork and it
holds a value today as it did back then when the movie first came out.
It's still creepy as you know what well, Like I said, and
if you get rid of the title and all that, and you just use
the artwork. It's a great framed piece of artwork to have hang on your
wall because it expounds on what the movie is about. Here's this thing.
Witnesses have seen it, and here's this thing. And it doesn't give great
details to what the creature looks like, but it gives you enough to know,
yeah, it's not a known creature, all right, it doesn't have
to. It's that image that's the tone for the movie, right, and
it gets you excited and brings into it. And that's where we'll leave it
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like it here. Henry give us those closing words, yes, and he's
gone. Henry would say, or hold on, Henry give us those words
no, mm hmmm mm hmm. Henry, you can do it. Henry,
you can do it. You can do it. There, shut up
Baker. For the love of God, one more time, one more time,
Henry. You that's all we need. We'll see you next time.
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