WEBVTT 1 00:00:33.759 --> 00:00:36.359 Well here we are back again. We didn't know if we were going to 2 00:00:36.439 --> 00:00:39.159 do this or not, but we're here, back live, and the Professor 3 00:00:39.200 --> 00:00:42.359 Andrew Murray and I Anthony Miller still alive. Right, We didn't do him 4 00:00:42.880 --> 00:00:45.520 and I think he's up in moving. I think he's just writing the articles. 5 00:00:45.600 --> 00:00:48.039 Yeah, maybe maybe he's a little, you know, a little hungover 6 00:00:48.079 --> 00:00:52.759 by Anthony's here. Andy, We're back live following the UFL Championship game. 7 00:00:52.759 --> 00:00:55.799 How are you? I'm great. How are you doing? If you managed 8 00:00:55.840 --> 00:01:00.920 to survive the Hotel Shenanigans? It was good? Yeah, funny stories here. 9 00:01:00.960 --> 00:01:03.719 We'll preface, get into everything, appreciate it, like it. Subscribe 10 00:01:03.760 --> 00:01:07.120 if you enjoy the work. Like I said, live here today from Saint 11 00:01:07.200 --> 00:01:08.719 Louis. We got people checking in. We'll throw up some comments here. 12 00:01:10.400 --> 00:01:12.480 Yeah, not the greatest game out do We will get to all of that, 13 00:01:12.519 --> 00:01:17.319 but live here Saint Louis. Hussy and I are going to be doing 14 00:01:17.359 --> 00:01:22.359 our CFL recap show tomorrow, regular episode Friday, look for UFL Insider Mike 15 00:01:22.439 --> 00:01:26.840 Mitchell kind of full season recap of the UFL twenty twenty four season. What 16 00:01:26.959 --> 00:01:30.879 worked, what didn't work? But like it? Subscribe We added subscribers last 17 00:01:30.920 --> 00:01:34.079 night. I think we had like thirty five hundred people check out the UFL 18 00:01:34.760 --> 00:01:38.920 Championship pregame show obviously most watched. Again, with all that, I appreciate 19 00:01:38.959 --> 00:01:41.519 everybody, but yeah, like it. Subscribe if if you're part of that, 20 00:01:41.920 --> 00:01:44.840 click join. I had comments last night like how do we get back? 21 00:01:44.840 --> 00:01:47.280 How you can do it? Thanks, you can do a super chat, 22 00:01:47.359 --> 00:01:49.719 you can joined the channel the nine nine sents a month. But we'll 23 00:01:49.760 --> 00:01:56.159 get the stories here. But first off, I can corroborate with talking with 24 00:01:56.239 --> 00:01:59.519 some of the XFL execs that were at the hotel last night. We really 25 00:01:59.560 --> 00:02:02.000 were in the high but not a great game and they know that. Yeah. 26 00:02:02.200 --> 00:02:07.560 No, I mean just kind of bewildering, honestly and honestly, in 27 00:02:07.599 --> 00:02:10.599 a word, confusing considering what one team did and another team didn't do. 28 00:02:12.599 --> 00:02:17.360 But look this game, there's so much that really kind of compatch as far 29 00:02:17.400 --> 00:02:21.159 as what happened. First of all, in the field, I mean, 30 00:02:21.400 --> 00:02:23.680 Birmingham made a statement, they made history. You know, they've won three, 31 00:02:23.719 --> 00:02:28.319 they've won three in a row. You know, blah blah blah. 32 00:02:28.400 --> 00:02:30.719 Sin sammonton Eskimos, I'm not going to steal my Mitchell Stundard on that He's 33 00:02:30.719 --> 00:02:36.240 talked about that plenty of times, but uh, just a tremendous accomplishment from 34 00:02:36.280 --> 00:02:39.120 them. You and I were sitting in Birmingham three years ago, just the 35 00:02:39.159 --> 00:02:44.319 beginning inaugural season in the USFL. You're sitting there wondering, well, how 36 00:02:44.319 --> 00:02:46.520 many of these are there going to be? You know, how many games? 37 00:02:46.520 --> 00:02:49.479 How many use spell gets? How does this hubed concept? Who's this 38 00:02:49.520 --> 00:02:51.919 Birmingham team? We don't even know anything. We didn't know. You know, 39 00:02:52.000 --> 00:02:53.159 how much should we know about Skip Bolls? Not very much? How 40 00:02:53.199 --> 00:02:57.800 much do we know about Jmar Smith, Alex Magoo, all these characters, 41 00:02:58.360 --> 00:03:01.319 and you've just seen this base parade of them the last three years. People 42 00:03:01.360 --> 00:03:06.520 who come in have made contributions. Guys who've been on the team for three 43 00:03:06.599 --> 00:03:09.120 years, Guys who were hurt last year, like I am Marlon Williams. 44 00:03:09.159 --> 00:03:13.240 You know, he tears up his achilles last year and he comes back this 45 00:03:13.319 --> 00:03:15.879 year stronger than ever, and he plays in the championship game. You know, 46 00:03:15.919 --> 00:03:17.000 he was tweeting last night like, oh man, I can't believe I 47 00:03:17.000 --> 00:03:20.479 have three rings. Think about that as a pro football player, having three 48 00:03:20.560 --> 00:03:23.560 championship rings in a league. That's not easy to do in any league. 49 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:29.680 To do it three consecutive years, and changing formats and changing environments with players 50 00:03:29.919 --> 00:03:32.120 coming in and out, and coaching changes that we even saw this year with 51 00:03:32.159 --> 00:03:36.759 them truly remarkable. From their standpoint, I have to tip my cap to 52 00:03:36.800 --> 00:03:39.479 them. It's really it just doesn't happen in a lot of sports, and 53 00:03:39.560 --> 00:03:44.000 especially in pro football. It's so so hard to do, and I just 54 00:03:44.039 --> 00:03:46.919 want to appreciate it for what it is. Yeah, No, I guess, 55 00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:52.280 let's congratulate. Let's congratulate at Birmingham for three times at championship. Here. 56 00:03:52.599 --> 00:03:54.280 Lots of excitement last night. Like I said, we were at the 57 00:03:54.280 --> 00:03:58.000 hotel bar. We didn't even really know, like we had just booked and 58 00:03:58.000 --> 00:04:00.800 then we kind of figured that out Friday or I guess going into salary. 59 00:04:00.800 --> 00:04:03.759 Okay, we're at the Birmingham, but all the brass was there last night. 60 00:04:04.240 --> 00:04:09.039 I shook Daryl moose Johnston's hand. He told me, yes, read 61 00:04:09.120 --> 00:04:12.479 that we're going to bring back the XFL kickoff next year. Actually he said 62 00:04:12.639 --> 00:04:14.800 he said, he said, hey, Mark, we're going to bring back 63 00:04:14.800 --> 00:04:17.040 the kickoff next year. But no, I talked with Darryl for some football 64 00:04:17.040 --> 00:04:23.839 execs there. Skip Holtz was celebrity number one there. Came in. We 65 00:04:23.959 --> 00:04:28.600 ran into Gregory, Gregory Crawford, one of our longtime listeners. You know, 66 00:04:28.680 --> 00:04:30.839 you love when you just sit down at the bar and you know us 67 00:04:30.920 --> 00:04:35.319 and we run this podcast and someone walks up to in full Birmingham Stallion's regalia 68 00:04:35.319 --> 00:04:40.000 and goes, do you know who I am? I was like, oh, 69 00:04:40.079 --> 00:04:43.120 yes, Gregory. So Gregory was very nice and he's watching this. 70 00:04:43.959 --> 00:04:46.279 You know, oh I was going to show here. We saw, we 71 00:04:46.319 --> 00:04:49.800 saw one of our friends here. We ran into James taking photos, so 72 00:04:49.879 --> 00:04:53.959 you know, we had a good time. Any standout interactions that you had 73 00:04:54.000 --> 00:04:58.199 either before after the game. There were so many wonderful people. I just 74 00:04:58.199 --> 00:05:01.040 want to say this was it was convention basically, and not only that we 75 00:05:01.040 --> 00:05:03.360 were next to Convention Center. I mean literally, it was almost like a 76 00:05:03.439 --> 00:05:08.879 convention itself in that there were so many different people from this space that we 77 00:05:08.920 --> 00:05:12.040 got to meet. Obviously, there were league executives that were in the hotel, 78 00:05:12.399 --> 00:05:16.560 fans personnel, just a lot of people that we've interacting with online and 79 00:05:16.600 --> 00:05:19.959 we finally got to meet in person. A lot of characters that I've interacted 80 00:05:20.000 --> 00:05:25.279 with over the last three years and that we've been able to finally see in 81 00:05:25.279 --> 00:05:30.560 person. And Gregory Crawford was fantastic. He gave us a little bit of 82 00:05:30.560 --> 00:05:31.839 a tough time, you know, with some of the things we mentioned about 83 00:05:31.839 --> 00:05:34.399 Birmingham this year, obviously the attendance numbers, which I'm not good to to 84 00:05:34.519 --> 00:05:36.759 really get into today. That's not mine. Oh we are going to talk 85 00:05:36.759 --> 00:05:41.399 attendance here too much though, you know, but not you know, not 86 00:05:41.439 --> 00:05:44.519 as much as a Glamne basson about it. But look, no, it's 87 00:05:44.560 --> 00:05:48.759 been wonderful meeting everybody here. Really, the gentleman you sent me up sitting 88 00:05:48.759 --> 00:05:51.639 next to me the entire game. Joh Jaw's on here, Josh checking in 89 00:05:51.720 --> 00:05:55.720 on the show. Yeah, John was great, Childe Joh wherever he is 90 00:05:55.800 --> 00:05:58.680 right now, he was awesome. I love talking to him and chopping it 91 00:05:58.720 --> 00:06:01.920 up with him. Russ Julio came over and talked to us. He was 92 00:06:02.079 --> 00:06:05.759 just super cordial, super nice. I really loved interact with him. Skip 93 00:06:05.759 --> 00:06:12.160 Holds nice, just very hospitable and warm with this time, great gentleman. 94 00:06:12.600 --> 00:06:15.319 Really wonderful to see him in that space. So yeah, honestly, read, 95 00:06:15.319 --> 00:06:17.600 it's hard for me to really pinpoint one, because there were so many 96 00:06:17.639 --> 00:06:20.720 great people that we got to talk to and really kind of share. You 97 00:06:20.759 --> 00:06:24.480 know, this is a community, and this is a community that you and 98 00:06:24.480 --> 00:06:28.879 I agree very much care deeply about because there's a lot of really interesting people, 99 00:06:28.879 --> 00:06:30.600 and it you get to meet so many different kinds of people in the 100 00:06:30.639 --> 00:06:35.439 space who just I think last night you just saw a giant celebration of what 101 00:06:35.560 --> 00:06:40.199 was going on. So I really appreciate that, and I really hope I 102 00:06:40.240 --> 00:06:43.480 get to experience that more, especially if I make the Great Cup this year, 103 00:06:43.920 --> 00:06:46.360 you know, be able to experience the candidate side of it. But 104 00:06:46.399 --> 00:06:49.000 I really love being able to experience this part of it, especially after the 105 00:06:49.079 --> 00:06:51.160 last three years. Yeah, I got the father here, you can see 106 00:06:51.480 --> 00:06:54.680 Holds, We got Gregory back here, you know. I mean, it 107 00:06:54.720 --> 00:07:00.519 really was I'll tell you lots of I don't think that Skip Holds will ever 108 00:07:00.560 --> 00:07:02.639 have to buy a drink in the city of Birmingham ever again, and that 109 00:07:02.720 --> 00:07:08.120 he certainly was not last night, very well taken care of, very well, 110 00:07:08.639 --> 00:07:11.399 you know and rightfully so like I said, a lot it was. 111 00:07:11.480 --> 00:07:15.160 It reminded me and we weren't because last year we were obviously the Championhip game 112 00:07:15.199 --> 00:07:19.360 in San Antonio, and I think we talked to the bar because like there's 113 00:07:19.399 --> 00:07:23.079 a Dwinne and Danny of it all, and like I think she was in 114 00:07:23.160 --> 00:07:25.360 and out, but a lot of the league execs right we're here. I 115 00:07:25.360 --> 00:07:27.439 mean, Danny's off to doing whatever. You know, a lot of the 116 00:07:27.439 --> 00:07:30.920 people are here. We know Russ Brandon's they're holding court talking to people. 117 00:07:30.959 --> 00:07:33.480 You know, you got Darryl Johnson walking around. But we didn't see that 118 00:07:33.600 --> 00:07:36.839 last year, but we did the first year in Birmingham, you know with 119 00:07:36.879 --> 00:07:41.040 the Fox people, you know Eric Shanks and Joe Klatt who you talked to 120 00:07:41.120 --> 00:07:44.160 everybody at the bar following that, And it was just cool to see that 121 00:07:44.360 --> 00:07:47.040 again last night that it felt like this is a celebration. We're through this. 122 00:07:47.160 --> 00:07:49.720 We saw a lot of the media people, Corey was walking around, 123 00:07:49.800 --> 00:07:53.680 you know, ticket sale Corey from you know the Guardians and now with the 124 00:07:53.720 --> 00:07:57.160 Stallions, and you know he's got a ring right or you get to hold 125 00:07:57.199 --> 00:07:59.600 the trophy because of all that stuff. So it's cool to see, uh, 126 00:07:59.759 --> 00:08:03.160 just really kind of exciting and just it felt, you know, like 127 00:08:03.759 --> 00:08:07.480 just an accomplishment. It's cool to see that, Like it was just really 128 00:08:07.480 --> 00:08:09.920 fun kind of eavesdropping and watching all that that nothing too, nothing too out 129 00:08:09.959 --> 00:08:11.959 of the realm, and then lean here, No, they're not bringing back 130 00:08:11.959 --> 00:08:15.360 the care yet, although I did, although I did talk to some league 131 00:08:15.360 --> 00:08:18.000 execs involved in rules and regulations, and I say that, you know we're 132 00:08:18.040 --> 00:08:20.800 gonna do that, right, We're gonna do that. So we'll see. 133 00:08:20.800 --> 00:08:22.680 But at least put the bug in the ear for all that. But I 134 00:08:22.759 --> 00:08:26.920 really appreciate that. Uh yeah, no, Chris, that the Moose leaking 135 00:08:26.959 --> 00:08:31.560 the expansion teams. No, but Moose was having a good time. There 136 00:08:31.680 --> 00:08:33.919 was because we were there, lights came on, it was time to go, 137 00:08:35.000 --> 00:08:37.320 Like, it was really fun. Nothing nothing out of the room, 138 00:08:37.399 --> 00:08:39.240 but we did see you know, maybe maybe a knocked over beer to It 139 00:08:39.279 --> 00:08:41.840 was kind of interesting. The kind of season people. I won't I won't 140 00:08:41.879 --> 00:08:46.480 say, you know, it's it's it's really you know, it's a good 141 00:08:46.480 --> 00:08:50.399 time when the entire bar collectively grows when they turn the lights on and tell 142 00:08:50.440 --> 00:08:52.600 you to go home, you know, And people really didn't go home for 143 00:08:52.679 --> 00:08:56.559 quite a while. I mean, I'm just so taking aback by the kinetic 144 00:08:56.720 --> 00:09:00.000 energy in that room the last two nights. I mean, people were just 145 00:09:00.000 --> 00:09:03.799 staying down there and just continuing to chop it up. Really just something I've 146 00:09:03.799 --> 00:09:07.080 not really been part of it in a while, and especially in a hotel 147 00:09:07.159 --> 00:09:09.639 bar of all places. But man, really just there was a lot of 148 00:09:09.759 --> 00:09:13.480 energy in that room, in that lobby for the last two nights, and 149 00:09:13.519 --> 00:09:16.480 you really felt it. All Right, so let's talk here, Let's get 150 00:09:16.519 --> 00:09:18.879 the first out of the way that we'll talk game and then we'll kind of 151 00:09:18.879 --> 00:09:22.039 talk about what's coming up next. But so, I you know, we 152 00:09:22.240 --> 00:09:26.919 knew, we knew attendance was going to be rough. We talked about that 153 00:09:26.000 --> 00:09:28.600 and the battle Hawks and all that. I'm curious, you're you know, 154 00:09:28.679 --> 00:09:31.879 you were in the crowd. I came down, I started in the press 155 00:09:31.879 --> 00:09:33.879 box. I wanted to see who was up there, and then came down. 156 00:09:35.159 --> 00:09:39.399 Felt very anti Brahmas. The people that were there. It felt like 157 00:09:39.440 --> 00:09:43.840 a lot of battle Hawks people that weren't mic Reports twenty seven and three ninety 158 00:09:43.840 --> 00:09:48.159 six. This was the photo I at kickoff that I took. I imagine 159 00:09:48.159 --> 00:09:50.919 that that is the distributed tickets. I imagine there was not a lot of 160 00:09:50.960 --> 00:09:54.159 battle Hawks people that were there. We did see a good contingent at Birmingham 161 00:09:54.200 --> 00:09:58.919 Sewings people including Greg Grate that traveled up but thoughts on that, and it 162 00:09:58.960 --> 00:10:01.120 was just a weird crowd dynamic because it really felt like we don't want the 163 00:10:01.120 --> 00:10:03.919 Brahmas here at all, but it's like we should this one last week. 164 00:10:05.799 --> 00:10:07.600 I mean, that's the thing. It's a lot. It was a lot 165 00:10:07.600 --> 00:10:11.720 of bitter Singulis fans and the ones that begrudgingly showed up to root against them. 166 00:10:13.000 --> 00:10:15.519 You know, I give them their due. They showed up. They 167 00:10:15.639 --> 00:10:16.840 you're able to do pay. You know, you buy your tickets. You 168 00:10:16.840 --> 00:10:20.919 buy your tickets, and that's fine. I will say I did see a 169 00:10:20.919 --> 00:10:24.000 lot of jerseys from a lot of the XFL teams that did see Roughdick. 170 00:10:24.440 --> 00:10:28.399 Well, I guess rough X in USL now, but yeah, the jerseys 171 00:10:28.399 --> 00:10:30.799 from last year. You know, I saw that Roughneck jerseys from last year. 172 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:37.759 I saw Brahm as obviously, we saw DC fans, You saw people 173 00:10:37.799 --> 00:10:39.759 from other parts of the league. You know this this is becoming a thing 174 00:10:39.759 --> 00:10:43.919 that I've noticed, especially last year too, where there are fans from other 175 00:10:43.960 --> 00:10:46.320 teams that will travel and just say we want to support the league. We 176 00:10:46.399 --> 00:10:48.240 just want to show up, and that's great. You need to have that 177 00:10:48.320 --> 00:10:50.639 and continue to build off that because that's the kind of energy I want to 178 00:10:50.639 --> 00:10:54.639 see, you know, a couple of some USFL fans here and there. 179 00:10:54.720 --> 00:10:58.600 But I just, you know, I think there was just so much negative 180 00:10:58.679 --> 00:11:01.679 rama energy that it felt like it was going to be the Stallion's party no 181 00:11:01.720 --> 00:11:05.320 matter what. Although it was so funny because like certain players would get food 182 00:11:05.480 --> 00:11:09.759 depending on like who got ordered for what. Like the player awards was really 183 00:11:09.799 --> 00:11:13.879 a standout thing. You know, Adrian Martinez's MVP was not well received. 184 00:11:13.879 --> 00:11:16.440 A lot of people weren't crazy about that. Also, do not mention Tom 185 00:11:16.440 --> 00:11:20.879 Brady's name in the stadium because that's not going to go well. But he's 186 00:11:20.919 --> 00:11:26.240 you know, obviously not on the field from a playing standpoint. I you 187 00:11:26.279 --> 00:11:31.399 know, there's so many random people and so many different dynamics there where I 188 00:11:31.519 --> 00:11:33.840 just I think the crowd was like trying to figure out, like where are 189 00:11:33.879 --> 00:11:35.720 we going for here? And it was if it felt neutral, I'll say 190 00:11:35.759 --> 00:11:39.840 that because everyone kind of picked their own corner and kind of sit in, 191 00:11:39.960 --> 00:11:45.080 not just literally but figuratively too in terms of like what am I supposed to 192 00:11:45.080 --> 00:11:48.399 be supporting here? So that was really interesting. But as far as the 193 00:11:48.440 --> 00:11:52.000 crowd, the size of the crowd. I gotta be honest, I thought 194 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:54.240 the San Antonio crowd was a little bit bigger last year. I just thought 195 00:11:54.279 --> 00:11:56.879 there was a few more people in there. I mean, not significantly so, 196 00:11:58.000 --> 00:12:00.600 but it just felt that it was a little bit more filled out in 197 00:12:00.639 --> 00:12:01.960 the All Low Dome last year. And those were people that you know, 198 00:12:01.960 --> 00:12:05.200 there was none of this. You know, we'll get into this later, 199 00:12:05.279 --> 00:12:07.080 but whether or not someone bought the ticket and actually showed up. I mean, 200 00:12:07.080 --> 00:12:09.600 those people did actually show up in the stadium, and I can feel 201 00:12:09.600 --> 00:12:13.200 that, but this this case, obviously there were some you know, missing 202 00:12:13.200 --> 00:12:18.559 party members and it was just it was interesting trying to kind of sort of 203 00:12:18.799 --> 00:12:22.519 sift through the energy in the crowd and trying to figure out what was going 204 00:12:22.559 --> 00:12:24.720 on. Yeah, I mean I don't know why this cable is film we're 205 00:12:24.759 --> 00:12:28.320 here. That's not the you problem, that's the cable problem. Yeah. 206 00:12:28.360 --> 00:12:33.000 It felt it felt weird. And I will just say and I uh, 207 00:12:33.559 --> 00:12:37.480 first off, never never say the league isn't listening. I you know, 208 00:12:37.600 --> 00:12:41.720 came in on fry air, But when did we come in? Saturday? 209 00:12:41.840 --> 00:12:45.240 I went to the went to the arch, did my cocorck cry babies and 210 00:12:45.279 --> 00:12:48.480 all that. And I ran into a league executive walking out of the elevator 211 00:12:48.519 --> 00:12:52.639 and they said, hey, read what about the concord cry babies. I 212 00:12:52.679 --> 00:12:54.679 go, oh, you like that? They said no, not really like 213 00:12:54.120 --> 00:12:58.879 uh, but I but I want to create a spark and I want to 214 00:12:58.879 --> 00:13:01.600 say something because this is and this is what I didn't give about all this, 215 00:13:01.759 --> 00:13:05.720 like when you're in the CFL, when you're in the UFL, when 216 00:13:05.720 --> 00:13:09.679 you're in one of these leagues where you have these neutral site games, this 217 00:13:09.759 --> 00:13:13.080 is what is part of the deal. I mean, And I said the 218 00:13:13.080 --> 00:13:16.799 same thing. It was negative about the CFL the rough Rider fans two years 219 00:13:16.840 --> 00:13:22.200 ago when they sat at home when Winnipeg was their their conference division rival, 220 00:13:22.240 --> 00:13:24.840 and they didn't want to go like, I don't know that to me, 221 00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:28.120 like you have to get over that. And I felt like last year, 222 00:13:28.279 --> 00:13:31.960 for whatever reason, and I don't know, like there was because I mean 223 00:13:33.039 --> 00:13:35.720 last year was a home I mean it was the San Antonio. There was 224 00:13:35.759 --> 00:13:39.720 no San Antonio, but there wasn't that negative energy that there was this year. 225 00:13:39.720 --> 00:13:41.799 And it was just really weird because we were there last year. The 226 00:13:41.799 --> 00:13:43.879 press box in the Albumo Dome was wide open. You were in the stands, 227 00:13:43.879 --> 00:13:48.440 but that to me felt more like a celebration where this, to me 228 00:13:48.559 --> 00:13:50.679 felt like we're mad that you guys are here, or we're going to stay 229 00:13:50.720 --> 00:13:54.639 at home to prove a point, and I just don't under like that. 230 00:13:54.720 --> 00:13:58.080 To me, that's a BattleHawks issue, because fan issue, because we were 231 00:13:58.120 --> 00:14:01.279 there last year and did not happen. So clearly there is that there is 232 00:14:01.320 --> 00:14:05.080 a difference between well, the promise is kind of an like last year, 233 00:14:05.120 --> 00:14:09.200 well they were kind of an OK franchise. They drew Fine, we're doing 234 00:14:09.240 --> 00:14:11.080 the game here. It's kind of a tourist spot. We got a lot 235 00:14:11.120 --> 00:14:13.639 of fans, it's kind of center of you know, center of the United 236 00:14:13.679 --> 00:14:16.720 States. But this year it was totally different. And having been in both, 237 00:14:16.759 --> 00:14:20.360 I will say there was a stark difference. You know, this is 238 00:14:20.360 --> 00:14:22.519 the thing, and I think Gregory Parks actually brought this up on Twitter. 239 00:14:24.320 --> 00:14:26.679 He said that basically, this is the risk you run when you put this 240 00:14:26.720 --> 00:14:31.000 in a third party venue. What happens when you decide let's go for broken 241 00:14:31.120 --> 00:14:35.679 just hope that maybe the team who was in this home stadium will actually host 242 00:14:35.679 --> 00:14:37.679 it. And again, most people were banking on that happening. You know, 243 00:14:37.679 --> 00:14:39.639 a lot of people really thought saying it was going to be here, 244 00:14:39.639 --> 00:14:43.919 including me, including Mike Mitchell, including a number of people, and that 245 00:14:43.960 --> 00:14:46.159 didn't happen. And this is the result of what happens. I look, 246 00:14:46.960 --> 00:14:52.080 I can't fault fans for not wanting to show up when their team doesn't make 247 00:14:52.120 --> 00:14:54.559 it, Okay, I can't. I can't tell them like, look, 248 00:14:54.559 --> 00:14:56.720 your team's not here, would get over it. I understand that part. 249 00:14:56.919 --> 00:15:00.240 But maybe it's a little more complicated in this sense, and that it's not 250 00:15:00.279 --> 00:15:05.320 a league that you know, financially is booming in you know, it's not 251 00:15:05.360 --> 00:15:07.360 having all their stocks go to the moon, right, So it's not this 252 00:15:07.519 --> 00:15:11.039 case like but the NFL or some of the other established leagues orre clicked, 253 00:15:11.039 --> 00:15:13.559 they'll be fine. You know that somebody will show up and fill that seat. 254 00:15:13.600 --> 00:15:16.480 But in this case that's not necessarily the case. Like who else is 255 00:15:16.519 --> 00:15:18.919 going to take that seat in the neutral you know, as a neutral party 256 00:15:18.960 --> 00:15:22.720 member and take over that seat that you had allocated before and resold you know, 257 00:15:22.799 --> 00:15:26.039 And I don't know if that's going to happen. Say with Saskatchewan, 258 00:15:26.279 --> 00:15:28.480 we saw that it didn't really pan out that way when they didn't make it, 259 00:15:28.720 --> 00:15:31.559 and they especially didn't want to sell tickets to win. I pay Blue 260 00:15:31.600 --> 00:15:35.759 Bar fans who are their enemies. So and I'm sure, you know, 261 00:15:35.879 --> 00:15:37.919 I'm not sure if Saint Louis fans would have felt that way. I'm not 262 00:15:37.960 --> 00:15:41.120 sure if it's the same thing in America. But you know that's as a 263 00:15:41.159 --> 00:15:43.960 fan, it's complicated. On one hand, I understand your emotion not want 264 00:15:43.960 --> 00:15:46.960 to show up, but on the other hand, you want to see people 265 00:15:46.039 --> 00:15:50.639 support the league and be able to support their product and just say, look, 266 00:15:50.919 --> 00:15:52.919 if you don't show up, it looks bad on the on the league, 267 00:15:52.919 --> 00:15:56.799 and it looks bad on on the support and looks bad on TV. 268 00:15:58.080 --> 00:16:00.720 And we have to think more in a long term setting here. And I 269 00:16:00.039 --> 00:16:04.039 look, it's I don't want to I don't want to call it selfish because 270 00:16:04.039 --> 00:16:07.919 I understand it, but it is. There is definitely certain arguments you can 271 00:16:07.960 --> 00:16:11.919 make both ways where and I you know, I know that's very centrius to 272 00:16:11.000 --> 00:16:14.440 me to do, but it is tough because I can see it going both 273 00:16:14.480 --> 00:16:17.759 ways. But in the one sense I understand in terms of you have to 274 00:16:17.840 --> 00:16:21.879 be able to support it something that is not guaranteed to just be around. 275 00:16:21.960 --> 00:16:25.200 That's the thing. It's not there's no promises like they might never get a 276 00:16:25.279 --> 00:16:27.879 game back here Alahawks in for the league were standings or for whatever. I 277 00:16:27.960 --> 00:16:32.519 mean, this might be the last playoff championship game ever in Saint Louis for 278 00:16:32.600 --> 00:16:34.360 the next decade. You have no idea. You can't take that for granted. 279 00:16:34.399 --> 00:16:37.919 Well, I mean, and I'll just you know, I don't want 280 00:16:37.960 --> 00:16:38.799 to throw the name out there too much, but you know, me and 281 00:16:38.919 --> 00:16:41.399 John were talking about last night. He just said, is this the last 282 00:16:41.440 --> 00:16:45.200 time that we have it here? And I said it's possible. I mean, 283 00:16:45.240 --> 00:16:47.879 they made May. Does the league decide and that's the thing. Does 284 00:16:47.919 --> 00:16:49.799 the league kind of take this and decide do we just do neutral settings from 285 00:16:49.840 --> 00:16:52.600 here? And I don't know, do we just go back to Canon, 286 00:16:52.639 --> 00:16:55.200 do we do something else? Do we do a smaller venue? Do we 287 00:16:55.279 --> 00:16:57.159 not try to run this risk anymore? I mean, these are mitigating factors 288 00:16:57.200 --> 00:17:00.480 now they have to think about because they try this experiment and it didn't work, 289 00:17:00.840 --> 00:17:04.000 and when the team that they thought was gonna win didn't win, you 290 00:17:04.079 --> 00:17:07.680 know, and it's something that was funnily meant mentioned to me too a couple 291 00:17:07.720 --> 00:17:11.799 of times. Was you know this if they really wanted to have the fix 292 00:17:11.920 --> 00:17:14.079 in for this team and get them in the into the game, they could 293 00:17:14.119 --> 00:17:17.720 have because guess what this replay system. I mean, basically, Mike Pereira, 294 00:17:18.680 --> 00:17:21.240 you know, are god and you can do whatever you want. Basically, 295 00:17:21.319 --> 00:17:23.119 I'm not saying they're like fixing games, but they really really wanted to, 296 00:17:23.519 --> 00:17:26.480 they could have done that, and that's not but for competition's sake, 297 00:17:26.599 --> 00:17:30.519 that's not gonna happen. So, you know, like this is because something 298 00:17:30.519 --> 00:17:33.039 that the league's gonna have to think about going forward. Are they going to 299 00:17:33.119 --> 00:17:36.359 have to go to more neutral settings and just decide, you know what, 300 00:17:37.440 --> 00:17:41.480 whatever party party people we get if we have that big home crowd, so 301 00:17:41.640 --> 00:17:45.079 be it. You know, we'll see what happens. A couple of comments 302 00:17:45.079 --> 00:17:45.559 here, and then we'll get to the game, because I know, you 303 00:17:45.640 --> 00:17:48.119 get have the people want to talk at tenants to expansion half of that with 304 00:17:48.200 --> 00:17:49.880 it. We have a couple of questions here, and then I want to 305 00:17:49.920 --> 00:17:55.720 talk to you all of this because my comment and then a couple of comments 306 00:17:55.759 --> 00:18:00.119 here, I'm worried and I don't know if the league even cared. I 307 00:18:00.160 --> 00:18:03.039 mean, we were talking about it last night, like the league really feels 308 00:18:03.119 --> 00:18:04.759 like, Okay, we want to be a TV product and I want to 309 00:18:04.799 --> 00:18:08.440 talk with Mike this week and not enough that's the title of the episode. 310 00:18:08.480 --> 00:18:11.279 But like you know, is the UFL two folks on meing a TV product? 311 00:18:11.279 --> 00:18:14.160 Because if that's the case, then you don't care, right, Like, 312 00:18:14.240 --> 00:18:15.799 hey, we're broadcasting this nationally as long as we have some people who 313 00:18:15.839 --> 00:18:18.079 were to make some noise. And I don't know if that's a good or 314 00:18:18.119 --> 00:18:21.519 bad thing, because I think, you know, along with the tendance that 315 00:18:21.680 --> 00:18:23.440 goes you know, we talked about the four people watching the games and making 316 00:18:23.480 --> 00:18:26.440 it more appealing for people to buy, you know, the franchises and all 317 00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:30.079 that. Like that all goes into that maybe they don't care. And I 318 00:18:30.119 --> 00:18:33.240 would say that that's a bad figment if they don't care enough. Just a 319 00:18:33.279 --> 00:18:36.200 couple of comments. Mike here says it was literally Father's Day, and that's 320 00:18:36.279 --> 00:18:38.440 great. Like my problem is not the people they didn't want to go because 321 00:18:38.440 --> 00:18:41.200 it was a holiday, the tickets. It was Father's Day whether or not. 322 00:18:41.319 --> 00:18:44.799 The BattleHawks in there, right, So the people that we're gonna go 323 00:18:45.319 --> 00:18:48.960 boday tickets knowing it was Father's Day, it was then we decided not to 324 00:18:48.039 --> 00:18:52.359 go or sell our tickets or stay home or well I saw comments. I 325 00:18:52.480 --> 00:18:55.079 bought six tickets and we went, but we couldn't get rid of the other 326 00:18:55.160 --> 00:18:57.400 four. I mean we had a jaw won our tickets, but like it 327 00:18:57.519 --> 00:19:00.440 was even hard trying to find people, Hey, okay, my schedule change 328 00:19:00.480 --> 00:19:04.079 or this happened or that happened. And just the other thing with this was 329 00:19:04.839 --> 00:19:08.519 doil do you think the league will do the best team host a championship. 330 00:19:08.599 --> 00:19:11.799 I know it'd be added cost. I think it's just stadium availability. I 331 00:19:11.839 --> 00:19:15.720 mean, you just can't. You can't hold that many venues. You have 332 00:19:15.839 --> 00:19:18.279 to know where you're going to be that day. You can't say well we're 333 00:19:18.279 --> 00:19:21.000 gonna wait and then the week or two before, like not that the Battle 334 00:19:21.000 --> 00:19:22.680 of Dome's hosting the lobby. You can't. That's what you can't book a 335 00:19:22.720 --> 00:19:26.200 stadium might be a week out, like hey, we actually need a championship 336 00:19:26.200 --> 00:19:27.559 game next weekend. Yeah. Now there needs to be a little bit more, 337 00:19:29.359 --> 00:19:32.839 just if possible, have a little more planned out for people so that 338 00:19:32.880 --> 00:19:36.079 they could buy those sticks ahead of time. As far as the Father's the 339 00:19:36.160 --> 00:19:37.599 Day thing goes, I mean they mentioned a number of times in the stadium, 340 00:19:37.599 --> 00:19:41.000 and they also I remember that at one point they did the Simba camp 341 00:19:41.039 --> 00:19:42.759 thing we hold your child up. I mean, look, this is actually 342 00:19:44.079 --> 00:19:45.680 if your father is in a football this is actually kind of a cool thing 343 00:19:45.720 --> 00:19:48.119 to go with your dad. My dad. I wish I could have bought 344 00:19:48.119 --> 00:19:51.279 my dad here, but you know, he he's in love with the game 345 00:19:51.279 --> 00:19:55.279 of golf too fort of golf too much to really make that sort of sacrifice. 346 00:19:55.279 --> 00:20:00.160 But you know what, like I just I just wonder if there's gonna 347 00:20:00.160 --> 00:20:04.079 be questions, is like who chooses what over whom? And look, Saint 348 00:20:04.119 --> 00:20:07.759 Louis fans would have chosen this game, and they made it absolutely their choosing 349 00:20:07.799 --> 00:20:11.559 to go here, regardless of whether Father's Day happens. It's it's the the 350 00:20:11.680 --> 00:20:14.839 more spread out audience that makes that conscious choice of do I really want to 351 00:20:14.880 --> 00:20:18.200 miss Father's Day for this game? And that's you know, that's consumer choice, 352 00:20:18.319 --> 00:20:19.599 right, that's the choice that the consumer makes. It says, well, 353 00:20:19.640 --> 00:20:22.839 I make that sacrifice. I'll have to go do this because you know, 354 00:20:23.119 --> 00:20:26.640 I mean, this isn't like how people say, like, honey, 355 00:20:26.960 --> 00:20:29.400 let's not get married on the Super Bowl Sunday, Like I don't want to 356 00:20:29.440 --> 00:20:30.720 miss the super Bowl. You know, people like actually think like that, 357 00:20:30.880 --> 00:20:36.079 right, and so there's there's choices that have to be made in that way. 358 00:20:36.160 --> 00:20:38.119 So, I mean, it is funny. We've talked about this earlier, 359 00:20:38.279 --> 00:20:41.319 like that they they played the XPEL championship game the day before Mother's Day 360 00:20:41.400 --> 00:20:45.519 last year and this this case with Father's Day weekend, So you know, 361 00:20:45.599 --> 00:20:48.319 are they gonna adjust are they going to adjust the schedule in terms of like 362 00:20:48.400 --> 00:20:52.599 are we gonna have this even happen earlier? Earlier they've really experimented with this. 363 00:20:52.720 --> 00:20:55.359 I mean, you know, the USBIL Championship game was on July fourth 364 00:20:55.400 --> 00:20:57.559 weekend, and like they've always there's always this kind of like holiday weekend, 365 00:20:57.799 --> 00:21:02.680 they try to go towards one war all day weekend. These are again continuing 366 00:21:02.759 --> 00:21:07.000 like analytical questions they're gonna have to keep addressing if they're going to think about 367 00:21:07.359 --> 00:21:08.960 logistically how many they're going to get people there in But like you said, 368 00:21:10.200 --> 00:21:12.359 maybe they just care that it's it's you know, on TV, and yeah, 369 00:21:12.440 --> 00:21:15.960 if there's enough people then that's fine by them. You know. Okay, 370 00:21:17.039 --> 00:21:18.920 last comme I hear. We're moving on. Mike twenty seven thousand, 371 00:21:19.000 --> 00:21:22.200 isn't bad for the battle Hawks, But there wasn't twenty seven thousand that was 372 00:21:22.319 --> 00:21:26.440 tickets distributed, So that was like on the high end. Had there been, 373 00:21:26.559 --> 00:21:29.799 I mean, obviously more battle Hawks people would have bought this week going 374 00:21:29.839 --> 00:21:33.519 into it, but like there was not, I would say, I would 375 00:21:33.559 --> 00:21:37.160 say, honestly, there's probably twelve thousand people there on the high end. 376 00:21:37.240 --> 00:21:41.880 I mean, I was there upstairs looking down, I went downstairs, walked 377 00:21:41.880 --> 00:21:45.119 around both pre kickoff, during the game, after the game, Like so 378 00:21:45.319 --> 00:21:48.920 it's fine, I mean, and I'm not. There's a lot of circumstances 379 00:21:48.960 --> 00:21:49.680 and like I said, maybe they don't even care. But there was not 380 00:21:49.799 --> 00:21:52.039 twenty seven thousand. I know that's the number of Mike reported, that's the 381 00:21:52.119 --> 00:21:56.000 number distributed, but that was not There was not twenty seven thousand people there 382 00:21:56.000 --> 00:22:00.039 like a subscribe here, Like I said, moving on in terms of the 383 00:22:00.279 --> 00:22:06.160 Brahmas game plan here, I tweeted last night there's a John Cena clip where 384 00:22:06.200 --> 00:22:07.799 he just says the word ass and I said, that seemed to be the 385 00:22:07.839 --> 00:22:11.880 Brahmas game plan going in here. What did you make? And this was 386 00:22:11.400 --> 00:22:15.799 first shutout that we know of in kind of modern spring football histories. Never 387 00:22:15.880 --> 00:22:18.319 happened. We were thinking about that the bar eye texted paraph. You know, 388 00:22:19.160 --> 00:22:22.480 I don't know, and Mike there was also not twenty two thousand and 389 00:22:22.519 --> 00:22:26.400 San Antonio. That's I'm just kind of the overall, like, the Brahmas 390 00:22:26.480 --> 00:22:27.680 did not even get off the plane, and you said that last night. 391 00:22:29.319 --> 00:22:33.920 Their offense certainly didn't. And I just didn't understand really what the game plan 392 00:22:33.079 --> 00:22:37.960 was as far as how they were attacking that defense. I really thought they 393 00:22:37.000 --> 00:22:42.200 would try to maybe just at least try some things downfield, or try some 394 00:22:42.279 --> 00:22:47.240 trick plays, or try something that was at least getting the Bramis because the 395 00:22:47.359 --> 00:22:51.440 Stallions were so on point with their tackling and with their focus, and they 396 00:22:51.519 --> 00:22:56.079 knew exactly where the ball was going every single time. The Brahma's offense could 397 00:22:56.119 --> 00:22:59.359 continue to make it a horizontal of passing attack. They could just continue to 398 00:22:59.440 --> 00:23:03.319 attack the sideline and it just didn't seem to really go anywhere. They couldn't 399 00:23:03.359 --> 00:23:04.640 run the ball very much. I mean, burning hands run defense was number 400 00:23:04.680 --> 00:23:07.400 one in the league, so it was gonna be hard to run against them. 401 00:23:07.440 --> 00:23:10.839 But you know, I just thought they'd be a little bit more creative 402 00:23:10.880 --> 00:23:15.039 in how they implemented some of their playmakers like Anthony McFarland and John Lovett, 403 00:23:15.039 --> 00:23:18.680 maybe just sub screen passes something they just could not. I mean, neither 404 00:23:18.759 --> 00:23:22.559 team crossed midfield about twenty minutes into the game, and you're sitting here thinking, 405 00:23:22.680 --> 00:23:25.799 are we gonna get any points before this happens? And you know, 406 00:23:25.880 --> 00:23:30.880 obviously the Stallions scored eight points before the half was over. But I mean 407 00:23:30.920 --> 00:23:33.559 it was just such a stalemate. But from the Brons standpoint, I'm just 408 00:23:33.680 --> 00:23:38.160 bewildered that the fact that there was just really there was just nothing, absolutely 409 00:23:38.200 --> 00:23:41.440 nothing. And I know some of it as well. They couldn't create a 410 00:23:41.519 --> 00:23:44.759 turnovers, their defense couldn't really do anything. But you're stopping the Stallions at 411 00:23:44.759 --> 00:23:47.119 every drive, like you got to do something with that. You have to 412 00:23:47.160 --> 00:23:48.839 be able to move the ball, and it just it never came to fruition. 413 00:23:49.000 --> 00:23:53.079 They absolutely could not get anything going in the passing game. I honestly, 414 00:23:53.400 --> 00:23:56.119 I'm not gonna fault Garber's too much. I thought he played fine. 415 00:23:56.440 --> 00:23:59.880 I don't think he was really him. I just don't think the scheme really 416 00:24:00.279 --> 00:24:03.720 fit anything. And this stalin seem knew exactly what they were doing on every 417 00:24:03.759 --> 00:24:07.000 play and they had him stuffed out in the beginning. It was just honestly, 418 00:24:07.039 --> 00:24:11.400 it was bewildering to see it happen. Well and I and obviously we'll 419 00:24:11.440 --> 00:24:14.680 watch kind of I want to check out the broadcast and kind of the replay 420 00:24:14.759 --> 00:24:15.839 here and now, you know, obviously we were in the stands and watching 421 00:24:15.920 --> 00:24:18.799 that, like I wanted to see the whole sock change thing we had early 422 00:24:18.880 --> 00:24:22.640 in the game, or whether it was the Science players that Daryl made him, 423 00:24:22.880 --> 00:24:26.759 you know, a violation of that. But I texted him when I 424 00:24:26.880 --> 00:24:29.960 moved down because I didn't even really like, I don't even think. I'm 425 00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:30.599 like, oh, shoot, I'm sitting there in the sands. I'm like, 426 00:24:30.599 --> 00:24:33.079 oh, there's brock cuor like. So I said, I sent him 427 00:24:33.119 --> 00:24:36.359 a message and I was like, hey, you'll see if we can get 428 00:24:36.400 --> 00:24:38.279 him on the show this week. He said he's traveling, but I said, 429 00:24:38.599 --> 00:24:41.200 man, this is not because I saw his face and we were laughing, 430 00:24:41.279 --> 00:24:42.880 like, God, is he trying to talk? Because he was on 431 00:24:42.960 --> 00:24:45.519 the Brahmas sidelines. We were over there, and I'm like, he don't 432 00:24:45.559 --> 00:24:48.960 wank like he wants to talk to anyone. It doesn't look like anyone wants 433 00:24:48.000 --> 00:24:51.799 to talk to him and I messaged him he goes, this is a volatile 434 00:24:51.920 --> 00:24:53.680 sideline right now. And we even saw I think it was RJ tweeted, 435 00:24:53.720 --> 00:24:56.920 which I don't even know if r J was at the game. Between it, 436 00:24:56.079 --> 00:25:00.279 like Wade was throwing his headset down and people arguing and the defense screaming 437 00:25:00.359 --> 00:25:03.920 at the offense because they're doing their job and leaving the bench, like really 438 00:25:04.079 --> 00:25:08.160 just felt like just an utter collapse. I mean, I can't even think 439 00:25:08.200 --> 00:25:11.599 of a better way to phrase it. Yeah, a lot of resentment on 440 00:25:11.680 --> 00:25:14.240 that sideline. And look, that's what's gonna happen when the defense is doing 441 00:25:14.279 --> 00:25:15.880 its job and the one side of the ball is doing its job, the 442 00:25:15.920 --> 00:25:18.480 other one isn't. It's gonna be a lot of resentment on the sideline. 443 00:25:18.480 --> 00:25:22.680 And it's unfortunate because this Promise defense, I actually thought, played a really 444 00:25:22.720 --> 00:25:26.039 good game. Actually, I mean they did give a lot of running yards. 445 00:25:26.039 --> 00:25:29.039 I mean, the biggest tell in this entire game is the fact that 446 00:25:29.319 --> 00:25:32.680 the Stallions ran for two hundred and ten yards Brahmas ran for fifty two. 447 00:25:32.720 --> 00:25:36.200 I mean, you're basically quadrupled the number of rushing yards they have, and 448 00:25:36.640 --> 00:25:38.559 that physicality really came through and it just wore down the Brahmas. I mean, 449 00:25:38.599 --> 00:25:41.720 the defense was just on the field way too much, especially in the 450 00:25:41.759 --> 00:25:45.039 second half, and it just wore them down eventually. And I'm sure that 451 00:25:45.119 --> 00:25:48.200 it's spilled out on the sideline because the offense was just doing absolutely nothing. 452 00:25:48.559 --> 00:25:51.640 And you know, it's unfortunate this team kind of losing it's cool and just 453 00:25:51.720 --> 00:25:55.440 emotionally. I mean, the most fight I saw from them was when they 454 00:25:55.440 --> 00:25:56.880 were literally fighting the other players from the other sideline, like when they were 455 00:25:56.960 --> 00:26:02.559 literally getting in altercations. We had an action later in the game. I 456 00:26:02.640 --> 00:26:07.240 mean, just just a lot of just emotional pieces there. And for the 457 00:26:07.279 --> 00:26:08.839 proms, they just completely lost their cool. You know, way Phillips spikes 458 00:26:08.880 --> 00:26:11.519 his headsec at one point, like he's just not having a good time. 459 00:26:12.880 --> 00:26:17.240 It's just frustration all around. I could see. I remember watching Brock you 460 00:26:17.319 --> 00:26:19.880 and I both watched Rock. You were trying to approach it and it was 461 00:26:19.920 --> 00:26:22.440 like trying to walk towards the hornet's nests, like an angry hornet's nest, 462 00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:25.720 and I think he just realized I got to cut my losses because this is 463 00:26:25.799 --> 00:26:29.279 not this is not tenable to be around right now. But just to see 464 00:26:29.319 --> 00:26:32.960 them lose their cool so much like that. It was it was honestly disappointing 465 00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:36.279 because they've just been so cool and levelhead of the entire season. You know, 466 00:26:36.359 --> 00:26:37.680 even when the offense wasn't doing much, they would find ways to like 467 00:26:37.759 --> 00:26:41.279 win games or being games. But they were just out of it, especially 468 00:26:41.319 --> 00:26:44.279 in the second half. Yeah, we have a couple of comments here, 469 00:26:45.680 --> 00:26:47.839 and I will say, yeah, with the Brock thing, it was like 470 00:26:48.920 --> 00:26:52.839 it was like I'm playing like Frogger or something like I'm trying to like walk 471 00:26:52.880 --> 00:26:56.519 into like traffic and I'm trying to like I don't really know if I want 472 00:26:56.559 --> 00:26:59.160 to do that. Where's the log? Where's the log? He was? 473 00:26:59.279 --> 00:27:03.319 I mean, it was just wild and just you know, Anthony was in 474 00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:06.839 the post game and he said that Wade didn't want to talk a lot about 475 00:27:06.839 --> 00:27:08.440 the game, talk more about the season. We're proud of the guys, 476 00:27:08.920 --> 00:27:12.119 and that's fine, I guess. So we've got to make sure we're talking 477 00:27:12.119 --> 00:27:15.079 about Adrian Martinez year. We have some comments from Zach I want to pull 478 00:27:15.160 --> 00:27:21.000 up, but I want to see general thoughts that if the BattleHawks are here 479 00:27:21.079 --> 00:27:25.519 instead, obviously ill other things change, but do they fare any better, 480 00:27:25.799 --> 00:27:27.640 Like I don't. I mean, Birmingham it felt like, you know, 481 00:27:27.799 --> 00:27:30.599 especially when they scored that first touchdown, it was like, okay, this 482 00:27:30.799 --> 00:27:33.759 is over right. Then they get and then they got the scoot you know 483 00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:36.480 what was at the fumble whatever, and I'm like, okay, this is 484 00:27:36.759 --> 00:27:38.160 totally gone. I mean, it felt like two scores and then three was 485 00:27:38.200 --> 00:27:41.799 insturramble. But with the battle Hawks, would that be different if they're there? 486 00:27:41.799 --> 00:27:45.039 I mean, I think they actually score for one, they at least 487 00:27:45.039 --> 00:27:48.160 put up some points. But I don't know if they really fare that much 488 00:27:48.240 --> 00:27:52.920 better because it all boils down to age mccurran's health and his ankle obviously was 489 00:27:53.039 --> 00:27:56.480 just shocked by the end of the season, and I don't know. Without 490 00:27:56.519 --> 00:28:02.079 ages leadership and his ability to kind of the mobile and be able to really 491 00:28:02.119 --> 00:28:04.559 command the offense that he had earlier in the season, I don't know. 492 00:28:04.680 --> 00:28:08.160 I mean, I think this the Stallion's team. They're just look the Stallions. 493 00:28:10.200 --> 00:28:14.119 They're a great team. They have all the assets. This team has 494 00:28:14.160 --> 00:28:15.640 lost, as Anthony said yesterday, four games in the last three years, 495 00:28:15.680 --> 00:28:19.279 and they have three championships. And there's the reason why their defense has always 496 00:28:19.319 --> 00:28:22.960 been quite exceptional. They've always been able to find a way, you know. 497 00:28:23.079 --> 00:28:26.160 Like I said, it's remarkable that they managed to get through this, 498 00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:30.279 especially with all the coaching changes, they managed to find a way to just 499 00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:32.400 come back and have this kind of effort at the end of the season. 500 00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:36.960 So, to be honest, like, I think maybe the BattleHawks would have 501 00:28:36.960 --> 00:28:38.839 put up a little bit more of a fight on offense, but I don't 502 00:28:38.880 --> 00:28:41.480 know. I think the same result would have happened. This Stallion's team was 503 00:28:41.599 --> 00:28:45.359 just ready and I think they were ready for whatever's strong at them. And 504 00:28:45.359 --> 00:28:48.480 I think it was just betigating circumstances. Like do I think the XFL Conference, 505 00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:52.480 I honestly believe this the XFL Conference as a whole was probably stronger than 506 00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:56.319 the USFL Conference, but Birmingham was by far the best team. I mean 507 00:28:56.400 --> 00:29:00.000 that's they're like clear head and shoulders about everybody else. Yeah, we talked 508 00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:03.960 about that too, walking Yeah, I think like generally talent level XFL conference 509 00:29:04.640 --> 00:29:08.119 higher, but the Stallions, I think is in another tier above. I 510 00:29:08.160 --> 00:29:11.440 think if they're the S tier, I think Ballahawks or you know that a 511 00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:15.480 promise maybe that you know B plus a minus, right, but there there 512 00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:18.799 there's such a jump between I think any team and the and the Stallions. 513 00:29:19.000 --> 00:29:21.880 Yeah, I mean, and it beared out that way. But I do 514 00:29:21.960 --> 00:29:25.200 think Saint Louis could have put up more of a fight. But I'll say, 515 00:29:25.319 --> 00:29:29.759 well could have been the bless but true, oh well less could I 516 00:29:29.839 --> 00:29:33.160 can't. I don't even want to think about that, honestly, But I 517 00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:34.880 mean that was the thing. We had a comment earlier from this is like 518 00:29:34.960 --> 00:29:38.240 way at the beginning from Marsden and I loved him, and we talked in 519 00:29:38.599 --> 00:29:42.079 Hamilton last year Regina that he said, you know, the first half of 520 00:29:42.119 --> 00:29:45.559 Suborne had to turn it off and we'll get Randy and tomorrow we'll see all 521 00:29:45.599 --> 00:29:48.960 that. And you know we had said I think one point three and one 522 00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:52.319 point four would be great. But yeah, like if you were turning on 523 00:29:52.440 --> 00:29:55.759 that game, that was a horrendous first half. To try to like entice 524 00:29:55.839 --> 00:29:57.200 anybody to watch, I mean, we're selling. I mean I was watching 525 00:29:57.200 --> 00:30:03.319 the Mariner game on my phone in the press blot this is brutally I sent 526 00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:04.599 a picture into the chat. I think it was a picture of a skeleton 527 00:30:04.640 --> 00:30:07.759 and a scene I said, waiting for someone to score, And it really 528 00:30:07.799 --> 00:30:12.400 felt like that. Sometimes I hate you know, I hate feeling that way, 529 00:30:12.480 --> 00:30:15.960 but I could say that the collective crowd felt that way too, where 530 00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:19.039 it's just I mean, everyone was begging for a ball to be thrown down 531 00:30:19.079 --> 00:30:22.079 field and that really didn't happen. Speaking of which, by the way, 532 00:30:23.440 --> 00:30:26.160 I want to give Adrian Martinez his due for winning the MVP in this game, 533 00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:29.720 but I'll say this, if you had told me that Adrian Martinez was 534 00:30:29.720 --> 00:30:32.359 gonna throw ninety eight yards to the air, I would have thought you had 535 00:30:32.440 --> 00:30:36.599 a fantastic chance to win, and that didn't happen because this ground game was 536 00:30:36.640 --> 00:30:41.599 so brutal. I really think that Ricky Pearson a person, really may have 537 00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:42.880 had a good chance to win the MVP award. He had one hundred two 538 00:30:42.920 --> 00:30:47.359 yards rushing, but he ran like Marshall Lynch. He just absolutely bodied people 539 00:30:47.640 --> 00:30:49.599 and threw him in to the dirt or the turf in this case, and 540 00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:53.920 was honestly probably the best player on the field on offense. And I really 541 00:30:55.039 --> 00:30:57.440 believe that he set the tone for Birmingham to kind of break out of their 542 00:30:57.640 --> 00:31:03.160 le and be able to do something on offense because the the Brombas pass day 543 00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:06.039 was really really good. They kept everything in front of them. Nobody let 544 00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:08.519 him big plays happen over the top. They made sure that everything was kind 545 00:31:08.519 --> 00:31:11.039 of in front of them. They just got worn down in the run game. 546 00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:15.359 But yeah, it was it was, lack of a better word, 547 00:31:15.400 --> 00:31:18.759 it was brutal to watch in the first half, just because there's just nothing 548 00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:22.559 happening. Again, not crossing midfield for twenty minutes in a game. It's 549 00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:26.880 really tough. Like that's some of the most like stagnant offense I've watched in 550 00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:30.680 football, not only in person but in general in quite some time. Yeah, 551 00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:33.160 what did you think of it? So we had the Adrian Martinez, 552 00:31:33.480 --> 00:31:34.559 we had the you know that, we had the MVP, we had the 553 00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:38.720 Tom Brady. Obviously we were there and didn't see I saw the clips the 554 00:31:38.799 --> 00:31:44.759 Brady presentation, like well, Adrian, like this this is a good trophy. 555 00:31:45.119 --> 00:31:48.039 Onto that, Like that was weird. They saw the clip of Tom 556 00:31:48.200 --> 00:31:49.920 like, you know, they really need to get the ball downfield. I'm 557 00:31:49.960 --> 00:31:52.279 like, I'm we amused that, Like I'm so glad, like three hundred 558 00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:56.000 million dollars, Like this is like the Keen expert analysis. I'm staying I'm 559 00:31:56.000 --> 00:31:59.160 throwing the back here. I think Brady, I don't think it makes it. 560 00:31:59.240 --> 00:32:00.599 I think you get one of it was like, what ways say that? 561 00:32:02.039 --> 00:32:07.599 Who is it? The Orleans guy Drew Brees? They did it for 562 00:32:07.720 --> 00:32:08.599 a year, right, and then they get there on your arrow. I 563 00:32:08.599 --> 00:32:10.440 don't know, we'll see about that, but that that bad. It was 564 00:32:10.440 --> 00:32:13.680 interesting. What do you think of Tom Brady? What we saw? And 565 00:32:13.720 --> 00:32:15.000 then what do you think of Yeah, Adrian Martin is getting the MVP. 566 00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:17.000 I mean it's not like there was a lot else. You can't give it 567 00:32:17.079 --> 00:32:21.559 to the whole you know, Bringingham defense. Well, I think Tom Brady 568 00:32:21.640 --> 00:32:24.799 is obviously exceedingly knowledgeable about football. I mean he'll he'll know ten times as 569 00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:29.880 much as I have in my entire life. But but how do you translate 570 00:32:29.960 --> 00:32:32.119 that on television? That's the thing I think as a color commentator, you 571 00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:37.039 really have to actually paint the picture for everybody and be able to describe it 572 00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:40.039 in a way that makes sense and is able to teach people certain things. 573 00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:43.319 I mean, that's why I really love someone like Joel Platt. I mean, 574 00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:45.599 he's very colorful, he understands a lot about the game, but he's 575 00:32:45.640 --> 00:32:50.000 also able to present it in a way that makes sense and teaches you something. 576 00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:52.440 And I think that's something Brady's going to have to learn. Whether he 577 00:32:52.519 --> 00:32:57.559 has the acumen to be in that mold, we'll see. But you know, 578 00:32:57.960 --> 00:33:00.920 like I think you get nervous, especially at the beginning, because you 579 00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:02.440 want to be safe. You don't want to be controversial, You don't want 580 00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:07.000 to just be opinionated, which I understand, but you have to be able 581 00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:10.839 to push put yourself out there a little bit. See me personality is different 582 00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:15.279 than obviously your normal life personality, and it's something that you have to kind 583 00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:16.640 of work with, involved with. But I don't know how much of the 584 00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:20.200 belief is going to be given. And I'm sure. I mean, obviously 585 00:33:20.200 --> 00:33:22.599 it's three hundred million dollars leash next to him, so the Fox will give 586 00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:25.119 him as much time as he needs to, but it's up to him if 587 00:33:25.160 --> 00:33:28.599 he's going to be better. But I do believe that Brady will work out 588 00:33:28.599 --> 00:33:31.039 it because Brady is a workaholic, like he's a he will want to get 589 00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:34.240 better at that. Yeah, yeah, I'm doing her. Yeah. Brady 590 00:33:34.279 --> 00:33:36.839 was like, I mean, this is a said for a conversation, like 591 00:33:36.960 --> 00:33:38.319 I would just stick with Greg Olson, Like I don't. I don't think 592 00:33:38.359 --> 00:33:42.319 you can tell me that like, I don't think that there's twenty percent more 593 00:33:42.359 --> 00:33:44.480 people tuned in to watch the game because Brady's on the call. I think 594 00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:45.400 you're going to get that the first I think you're going to give that out 595 00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:49.720 the first week. But regardless, Yeah, Jenny here says the game was 596 00:33:49.839 --> 00:33:52.119 not fun, that Chris was brital. I mean now in the chat, 597 00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:54.799 like, is that is that? I saw comments on the Twitter like this 598 00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:59.079 ruin the season or this like what a terrible way to end it? Like 599 00:33:59.160 --> 00:34:00.079 do you do you feel way? And put it in the chat? I 600 00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:02.279 mean is that? I mean? It is what it is? Like I 601 00:34:02.359 --> 00:34:06.200 said, we were talking with the league execs, like, I mean, 602 00:34:06.279 --> 00:34:09.440 you can't. You can't. It's live sports. I mean that's the difference 603 00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:13.400 in when I used to always watch Dev debe Is. I'm like, you're 604 00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:17.159 able to script the perfect end every single time right where here in the obviously 605 00:34:17.199 --> 00:34:20.960 real life sports you can't. But does that ruin the season for you? 606 00:34:21.039 --> 00:34:23.880 Does that ruin the season? That? Let me know, I'm gonna say 607 00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:29.400 no, I don't believe it actually ruins anything for me. Is it disappointing? 608 00:34:29.519 --> 00:34:30.280 Yeah, of course it is. You want to have a much better 609 00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:32.840 game and a better product to showcase than this, and you don't want it 610 00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:37.679 to be so lopsided too. But no, I don't believe it ruins the 611 00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:40.800 season at all. The season was compelling enough in its own way. I 612 00:34:40.880 --> 00:34:45.079 do think it was funny that Mike was still emerging to have overtime so badly, 613 00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:47.519 and you know, if it had happened, that would have been wild. 614 00:34:49.519 --> 00:34:52.599 God forbid if he is zero zero overtime, because there's thoughts of that 615 00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:55.599 starting to happen. But no, I mean, look, it just it 616 00:34:55.719 --> 00:34:59.480 is what it is. One team showed up and the other one had a 617 00:34:59.719 --> 00:35:01.639 unit that didn't get off the plane. I know that's harsh to say, 618 00:35:01.719 --> 00:35:07.199 but like the offense just really just couldn't. The Bramins offense really just disappeared. 619 00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:09.360 And I just don't think it really, but I don't think it ruined 620 00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:14.199 the season for me. Yeah, Like so back to the problems thing and 621 00:35:14.280 --> 00:35:15.599 like the AJ of it all. We've talked about this and you know, 622 00:35:15.719 --> 00:35:19.840 even going into last year and injuries and stuff going into the end of the 623 00:35:19.920 --> 00:35:22.639 season. Like, I mean, I love AJ. He's been on the 624 00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:24.639 show twice, well at least once, if not, I can't remember. 625 00:35:24.679 --> 00:35:29.559 If I can't remember forgot him on this season, but like, is that 626 00:35:29.880 --> 00:35:31.119 is this an AJ thing too? I mean, it just felt like we 627 00:35:31.159 --> 00:35:34.599 saw the same play over Nomber. I know you talked on the top about 628 00:35:34.639 --> 00:35:36.679 that, you know a lot of slam were going back and then so this 629 00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:38.440 way, I just felt like there was no attempt at all, and is 630 00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:42.960 that him not trusting Garber's And we had a comment here like is Garber's trying 631 00:35:42.960 --> 00:35:46.320 to get an NFL opportunity that hinder Why would think you'd want to play better 632 00:35:46.360 --> 00:35:49.760 in the championship because because of that? But was that you know, because 633 00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:52.559 if Dormandy came in, we saw Megan's the plays like was that what's going 634 00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:55.719 on with AJ Smith? I guess, well, it is interesting how they 635 00:35:55.840 --> 00:36:00.400 control the offense so much more with Chase Garber's and look, everything made a 636 00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:07.119 good point, he said. Ad Smith said before the season that this guy, 637 00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:10.000 Chase Garver's is who he thinks of as his PJ Walker. Well, 638 00:36:10.039 --> 00:36:14.199 PJ Walker threw the ball down the field. Darvers doesn't really do that. 639 00:36:14.320 --> 00:36:17.800 He's very much more short to intermediate routes. And that's fine when you're controlling 640 00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:21.360 the pace of play. But they weren't, and they needed to be more 641 00:36:21.400 --> 00:36:24.119 aggressive downfield. Dormanity were better or worse? Is going to do that? 642 00:36:24.199 --> 00:36:27.239 He's he going to throw the ball in arms way, yes, but he 643 00:36:27.360 --> 00:36:29.679 is going to push the ball downfield. And we saw that that one drive 644 00:36:29.719 --> 00:36:32.119 where they finally got into the red zone at last. They didn't score, 645 00:36:32.199 --> 00:36:35.519 obviously because they were desperate and they were trying to go for it, but 646 00:36:36.440 --> 00:36:39.159 at least there was something going on in the passing game and they were finally 647 00:36:39.519 --> 00:36:45.280 plays being made that were beyond five or ten yards. And I just you 648 00:36:45.320 --> 00:36:49.840 know, there's maybe two different kinds of games you can play with those those 649 00:36:49.880 --> 00:36:52.159 sorts of players, and maybe Dormity would have just been a better fit. 650 00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:55.199 Are you going to get some risks, Yes, I know you don't want 651 00:36:55.239 --> 00:37:00.039 to be risky, but it felt like the Broms were playing not to lose 652 00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:04.119 and stuff to win, and that, to me is what really was emblematic 653 00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:07.639 about the way that Chase Garber's played. And then what happened when we saw 654 00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:09.360 Dormany out there, well, I think yeah, I think even Mike and 655 00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:12.960 we were talking in the chat and obviously, like you know, Brady's and 656 00:37:13.039 --> 00:37:15.079 trepid kind of stuff too, about well the teams are feeling each other out, 657 00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:19.199 like uh yeah, it felt like that for a little bit. But 658 00:37:19.199 --> 00:37:22.079 they felt like the Brown has never gotten into second year at all, where 659 00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:23.360 they're just like, oh, we're kind of just like he's playing not to 660 00:37:23.440 --> 00:37:27.000 lose, And it felt like there was no risk, there was no imagination, 661 00:37:27.159 --> 00:37:30.159 there was no creativity, and like at some point they know what you're 662 00:37:30.199 --> 00:37:32.199 gonna do and they you know, they were trying to get interceptions something like 663 00:37:32.679 --> 00:37:36.119 when you're doing the same play over there, I'm able to read that and 664 00:37:36.239 --> 00:37:38.239 kind of react to it. Just it felt like very weird and either to 665 00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:42.320 put the play on Wag or aj like it's certainly not the team that we 666 00:37:42.400 --> 00:37:45.320 expected to show up. No, not at all. And I just again, 667 00:37:45.719 --> 00:37:49.559 I don't know if that would have meant that's that Dormandy should have been 668 00:37:49.559 --> 00:37:52.199 switched in earlier. I don't know if that would have saved them at some 669 00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:54.880 point. I mean, as a coaching staff, you understand the game plans 670 00:37:54.960 --> 00:37:57.840 just not working, and it was just too little, too late by the 671 00:37:57.880 --> 00:38:01.800 time they switched out uh Garber's dormany. We had a comment here at Jenna 672 00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:06.920 Jenna's man Jennis man Birmingham carry the USFL. Birmingham was leasing that we would 673 00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:10.960 support. It's not fixed. I will say we joked last night there were 674 00:38:12.039 --> 00:38:15.119 some smiling faces in the in the hotel bar, like I bet that person's 675 00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:17.800 happening that the USFL won. I mean, it's interesting that we make those 676 00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:22.679 jokes about all that stuff. But like, I think that gives relevance to 677 00:38:22.760 --> 00:38:27.360 a lot of that I you know, maybe does it give a boost now 678 00:38:27.440 --> 00:38:30.519 that Michigan madeto the playoffs? When you want these teams to have success, 679 00:38:30.599 --> 00:38:32.599 it's really hard to get people to go to Memphis or Houston games because they 680 00:38:32.679 --> 00:38:36.719 stuck at least Birmingham. I don't know. I mean we saw people. 681 00:38:36.800 --> 00:38:38.440 It feels too predictable. I mean, you gotta win. You can't blame 682 00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:43.039 the team for winning. But I do think that Birmingham Stallions being successful helps 683 00:38:43.079 --> 00:38:45.639 that conference. Yeah, absolutely, No, I mean they're carrying the torch. 684 00:38:45.760 --> 00:38:49.719 They haven't carrying the torch for three years. They are by far the 685 00:38:50.039 --> 00:38:54.159 stalwarts franchise, and they at least give it relevance because otherwise, I mean, 686 00:38:54.199 --> 00:38:57.920 there's some tough ball to watch there in the USFL. In terms of 687 00:38:58.039 --> 00:39:00.519 the Memphis and Houston teams like Michigan a lot. Maybe they're not the most 688 00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:04.119 prettiest to watch on TV, but they are a good team and they've been 689 00:39:04.119 --> 00:39:07.119 a better team in the last two years. That first year was really rough 690 00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:09.840 when they were coming out of the gates in the Hub model. But you 691 00:39:09.920 --> 00:39:14.800 know, like the USFL from a from a TV standpoint, I think has 692 00:39:14.880 --> 00:39:19.239 some interesting playmakers. It's just there's two teams that are really strongly in Memphis 693 00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:24.079 in Houston. But yeah, like Birmingham, Birmingham is compelling just based on 694 00:39:24.400 --> 00:39:28.280 what they've done. Again, this is this is a tremendous thing and there's 695 00:39:28.360 --> 00:39:31.840 people now, there's fans from opposing teams that want to see them lose. 696 00:39:31.880 --> 00:39:36.280 Like they're teams that are saying, Okay, we want to give you our 697 00:39:36.320 --> 00:39:37.400 best shot and take you down. We want to be the ones that take 698 00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:42.320 down in Birmingham. And it hasn't happened yet, and it's I don't know 699 00:39:42.440 --> 00:39:45.800 when it's going to happen. It really depends on you know, Skip Holtz 700 00:39:45.800 --> 00:39:50.320 stays around and continues to build on this dynasty. It'll be really interesting. 701 00:39:51.239 --> 00:39:52.840 Yeah, a couple of things. Yeah, I mean it feels a little 702 00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:55.840 bit like the CFL with Winnipeg the last few years, Like you're going to 703 00:39:55.920 --> 00:40:00.239 have in these smaller leagues, You're going to have teams. There's going to 704 00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:01.719 be a talent out there. I mean, there's just not the parody that 705 00:40:01.800 --> 00:40:05.239 they want. And so yeah, I mean it puts a bullet on his 706 00:40:05.280 --> 00:40:07.480 shoulders or a bullet on the whatever, target on the head whenever you want, 707 00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:09.639 you metaphore you want to call it. But yeah, it does feel 708 00:40:09.719 --> 00:40:14.039 like Skip entertaining the room last night. Feels like Skip's in a good place 709 00:40:14.119 --> 00:40:16.519 right now. Like if I'm Skip, I don't know. I mean, 710 00:40:16.559 --> 00:40:19.760 do I go anywhere else? I mean it, I don't know. If 711 00:40:19.800 --> 00:40:22.880 it gets Yeah, obviously you can go make money more money to do whatever 712 00:40:22.119 --> 00:40:24.440 we were talking. Okay, you go to college and you deal with nil 713 00:40:24.519 --> 00:40:27.960 and all this, Like here, you work three four months out of the 714 00:40:28.039 --> 00:40:30.280 year, you do some showcases during the summer. Like, I don't think 715 00:40:30.320 --> 00:40:32.920 it's a bad gig. No, And if he wants to go call it, 716 00:40:34.039 --> 00:40:37.639 you know, maybe coach a college or somewhere else for maybe a season, 717 00:40:37.719 --> 00:40:39.760 that's fine too. But I mean he does have the best gig in 718 00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:44.480 talent. He really does this Birmingham franchise just absolutely adores him. It's fans 719 00:40:44.519 --> 00:40:46.440 adore him. As you said, you'll never have to buy a drink in 720 00:40:46.440 --> 00:40:51.679 the state of Alabama maybe ever. Again, I just don't know, Like 721 00:40:52.639 --> 00:40:58.679 going from here, the thing is with these franchises, what do you think 722 00:40:58.760 --> 00:41:01.519 of as the franchise that has to succeed it's better for the league. Like, 723 00:41:01.559 --> 00:41:05.679 for example, one of the things I saw last night, Saskatchewan had 724 00:41:05.719 --> 00:41:09.320 another comeback victory. You can see Hamilton, sorry Jason, but they came 725 00:41:09.400 --> 00:41:13.039 back and they won, And I saw a lot of comments saying, oh, 726 00:41:13.079 --> 00:41:15.519 it's good that Saskatch one is good, you know, because this is 727 00:41:15.559 --> 00:41:20.079 good for the league. And I don't know belief this conference has that. 728 00:41:20.239 --> 00:41:22.000 Now, maybe you could argue it's probably Saint Louis because of the attendance that 729 00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:25.000 they get. Probably you want Saint Louis to be successful because of how many 730 00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:28.440 people they get. But I don't know if that's necessarily the case for other 731 00:41:28.519 --> 00:41:30.599 franchises in this league. I don't know if they really have that. So 732 00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:34.400 because there's a lot of leagues where they said the same thing. They say, 733 00:41:34.559 --> 00:41:37.199 oh it's good that this team is good because it's good for numbers. 734 00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:40.119 Overall, and I'm not sure that's necessarily the case in this league yet because 735 00:41:40.119 --> 00:41:44.079 I don't know if anybody has that wagon to hitch themselves too. Yeah, 736 00:41:44.119 --> 00:41:45.199 as I think that's a good point. I mean, yeah, I don't 737 00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:49.559 know. And we've seen the radians people, okay, but Michigan draws more, 738 00:41:49.639 --> 00:41:52.480 Birmingham draws more. Whatever. I maintain it's a lot of the time 739 00:41:52.559 --> 00:41:53.960 slots and the networks and kind of what's going on with that. But I 740 00:41:54.039 --> 00:42:00.679 don't know whenever the rading is, I don't know if you can get a 741 00:42:00.679 --> 00:42:02.079 bigger TV radio shay at the Ballothawks are in there. I mean, obviously 742 00:42:02.119 --> 00:42:05.679 you think you get more people in the stand, but I'll be curious. 743 00:42:05.719 --> 00:42:08.840 I think that there's a four right now for a four and a slightly higher 744 00:42:08.920 --> 00:42:13.199 ceiling for spring football, and I don't know if in a different combination yesterday 745 00:42:13.239 --> 00:42:15.360 would have made that better. I think you had had a better in game 746 00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:17.480 experience and maybe that translates to TV, but I don't know. I don't 747 00:42:17.480 --> 00:42:21.280 know if there's another half a million people that are tuning in against the Ballahawks 748 00:42:21.320 --> 00:42:23.079 are in there. I don't know about that either. I mean, as 749 00:42:23.119 --> 00:42:28.039 far as being a fan that wants to go to the games. Yeah, 750 00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:30.239 you want that team to be good and be able to have that energy. 751 00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:34.039 And the Battahawks have always been good, like they've always been a team that 752 00:42:34.159 --> 00:42:36.840 seems to always be about five hundred. So that bodes well for them, 753 00:42:36.920 --> 00:42:39.960 at least in terms of their reputation. So that's good for them. But 754 00:42:40.119 --> 00:42:44.440 as far as everybody else in the league, I mean, are people really 755 00:42:44.440 --> 00:42:46.960 get to care, like suddenly that the Roughnecks become fantastic. I don't know. 756 00:42:47.119 --> 00:42:50.880 I don't know if that really draws the number, If Memphis suddenly becomes 757 00:42:50.920 --> 00:42:52.920 fantastic, I don't know. That's the thing. I don't have that answer. 758 00:42:53.360 --> 00:42:57.440 That doesn't I'm not sure if that's the draw that everybody is expecting. 759 00:42:57.599 --> 00:43:00.280 I mean, we see Birmingham is obviously, you know, their dynasty, 760 00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:04.880 and the numbers in their stadium haven't really changed. I mean, obviously, 761 00:43:04.880 --> 00:43:07.159 their TV rating is very high. They're Birmingham TV rating is great. People 762 00:43:07.199 --> 00:43:10.400 watch them in the in the area, But as far as like getting people 763 00:43:10.440 --> 00:43:15.079 into the stands hasn't really shipped the needles. So I don't know what that 764 00:43:15.239 --> 00:43:17.039 means. I just sad. A couple of things here, Zach here, 765 00:43:17.119 --> 00:43:20.719 this came to be a league, a parody Birmingham silly. No one can 766 00:43:20.760 --> 00:43:22.239 compete with them. I wonder what kind of kool a they're drinking. I 767 00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:24.480 want something I like that, Zach. Yeah, we didn't rune into Zach. 768 00:43:24.519 --> 00:43:28.280 I think Zach said he was in the suite yesterday, so we tried 769 00:43:28.320 --> 00:43:30.559 to see. You know, I say what I say, Yeah, I 770 00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:32.519 come to Saint Louis. I can always see the people that want za Zach's 771 00:43:32.599 --> 00:43:37.679 ye flouting here in the suites. But I will just say, like when 772 00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:39.800 you have these smaller leagues, and we're talking the elitis of Birmingham, like 773 00:43:40.039 --> 00:43:45.360 the CFL, it feels like there's like six pretty decent teams and then there's 774 00:43:45.400 --> 00:43:49.119 like two or three kind of duv teams. Right like this year, it 775 00:43:49.159 --> 00:43:51.639 feels like the Edmonton's kind of going to be asked. It feels like all 776 00:43:51.679 --> 00:43:53.639 the what like. But I feel, you know, in six teams make 777 00:43:53.679 --> 00:43:57.639 the playoffs, and like I feel like that kind is that way where I 778 00:43:57.679 --> 00:44:00.360 feel like in this league there's like one or two good teams, then there's 779 00:44:00.360 --> 00:44:01.280 a lot of ass teams, Like you know, it's it's kind of like 780 00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:05.559 Birmingham Aley, you need to flip that. I want I want to have 781 00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:08.199 five or six of nine good versus you know, two or three of eight 782 00:44:08.280 --> 00:44:12.599 good. Well, it's just more can a team recover when things aren't going 783 00:44:12.639 --> 00:44:15.360 their way? And I do believe that Saint Louis sometimes can do that. 784 00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:19.039 They don't always do it, but I believe they can. Birmingham obviously, 785 00:44:19.199 --> 00:44:22.880 any turmoil they go through, they managed to figure it out. Unfortunately, 786 00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:24.599 we saw the Bromins last night that wasn't the case. When their offense went 787 00:44:24.719 --> 00:44:29.239 that was it, that was it was game over. That's kind of my 788 00:44:29.320 --> 00:44:31.519 biggest thing is can these teams have another way of adjusting or be able to 789 00:44:31.559 --> 00:44:36.559 figure out something that will help them win win that game, or be able 790 00:44:36.639 --> 00:44:39.159 to uh be able to join that upper epsalon of teams. I mean, 791 00:44:39.199 --> 00:44:43.360 we saw that the CFL last year. Even you know, we dogged Montreal 792 00:44:43.480 --> 00:44:45.480 the entire season and said, well, they're kind of a mid team, 793 00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:49.639 they're not really, they're not fit to be a team like BC or Toronto 794 00:44:50.000 --> 00:44:52.440 or in a pig And they went out and prove everybody wrong because they were 795 00:44:52.480 --> 00:44:55.000 able to ascend and like you could tell that there was at least competition there, 796 00:44:55.039 --> 00:44:58.800 and it was. It was shocking, of course, but that that 797 00:44:59.199 --> 00:45:04.000 competition, that reality of oh, this upset could actually happen. That always. 798 00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:07.199 The thing is, I don't always feel like that in spring football. 799 00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:08.880 Sometimes I just watch a game. It's almost a formality, Like I don't 800 00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:12.639 think, Like I watch Birmingham games, i don't expect them to lose, 801 00:45:12.719 --> 00:45:15.159 even when they're trailing to a team like Michigan, I'm like, yeah, 802 00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:19.480 they're gonna figure it out. Like it's just there's no there's no suspension of 803 00:45:20.800 --> 00:45:24.519 belief that believe like they're going to basically lose this game. Like that never 804 00:45:24.599 --> 00:45:28.159 comes into play. And as I think as a sports fan, you want 805 00:45:28.159 --> 00:45:30.719 to at least have a little bit of doubt because it keeps you on edge 806 00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:34.400 and it keeps you interested because you think this may not work out for us, 807 00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:37.320 and you need to keep that in your head. A couple of things 808 00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:40.000 here, Denzel, I'm worried about the XFL side being able to keep coaches 809 00:45:40.039 --> 00:45:43.639 because you pay structure. Then I think we're gonna talk with Mike about that 810 00:45:43.760 --> 00:45:45.119 this week. So I guess I again subscribed on that because I want to 811 00:45:45.119 --> 00:45:49.119 get Mike Stotts, and he was one of the report that Heine's Ward last 812 00:45:49.199 --> 00:45:51.199 year, and that's how we got Wade Phillips with it. You know, 813 00:45:52.360 --> 00:45:55.360 spoiler Elier. I don't think heine Ward's brom is making to play the championship 814 00:45:55.360 --> 00:45:59.679 and I don't think they fear any better against that. And Mark here, 815 00:45:59.719 --> 00:46:02.400 I don't want the UFL to become this gallion's playing the role of globe drawers 816 00:46:02.480 --> 00:46:07.639 versus generals every season. Paradise needed. I agree with that talking just real 817 00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:09.519 quick like adjustment. It's kind of all that stuff. Are you surprised? 818 00:46:09.559 --> 00:46:13.320 Obviously we saw Dormandy late in the game, but I mean it was like 819 00:46:13.400 --> 00:46:15.800 halfway through the fourth quarter. Like I just to me at halftime, you 820 00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:17.960 make like, what the hell are we? I mean, what an't we 821 00:46:17.960 --> 00:46:22.599 be waiting for here? And there's no like even oh, we don't want 822 00:46:22.639 --> 00:46:24.559 to offend anybody person. I mean, it's free football, and these guys 823 00:46:24.639 --> 00:46:28.400 might not be back next year. I was just surprised it took that long. 824 00:46:29.199 --> 00:46:31.000 You know, Garber's did not have a great game and then Dormandy. 825 00:46:31.800 --> 00:46:36.559 Are you surprised it took so long? It's always tough playing those politics, 826 00:46:36.639 --> 00:46:39.079 but yes, I do believe it. It was kind of surprised that Dormany 827 00:46:39.119 --> 00:46:43.599 didn't get a shot earlier. And look again, I don't think Chase Garber's 828 00:46:44.239 --> 00:46:49.800 was really the problem necessarily. I just think the game plan was not conduced 829 00:46:49.960 --> 00:46:52.960 to his strikes. And really what they were trying to do they needed to 830 00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:54.800 put the push the ball down, feel it a little bit more. And 831 00:46:55.119 --> 00:46:58.840 that's the thing Dormandy is going to do that. It's gonna take those risks 832 00:46:58.840 --> 00:47:00.920 and he's gonna be able to take the high volume plays that are going to 833 00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:04.679 be very volatile. But maybe that's what you need. Maybe you need a 834 00:47:04.719 --> 00:47:08.079 little bit more gusto and what you need. And look, coaches are not 835 00:47:08.159 --> 00:47:10.639 afraid to do this, like we saw this last week with Skip Boltz. 836 00:47:10.639 --> 00:47:14.239 You know, Martinez was not playing well against Michigan. He said, I'm 837 00:47:14.239 --> 00:47:16.440 putting in Matt Corral and crowd played well, and I had that in the 838 00:47:16.480 --> 00:47:20.159 back of my head. Today I thought Martinez doesn't play well, started playing 839 00:47:20.159 --> 00:47:22.079 better. You know, there were parts in this first half where I started 840 00:47:22.079 --> 00:47:24.480 to thinking, I don't know raid his way and kind of get into this 841 00:47:24.559 --> 00:47:30.639 game. He never did, but you have to be prepared for that to 842 00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:32.679 happen because things aren't going well coach. At the end of the day, 843 00:47:32.800 --> 00:47:36.079 the coach wants to win. The coach wants to win the game. And 844 00:47:36.199 --> 00:47:38.159 that's what kind of again sort of shocked me about the promise, that there 845 00:47:38.199 --> 00:47:42.960 was just such a lack of urgency, like there was no It's like they 846 00:47:43.000 --> 00:47:45.280 weren't even trying to hit the panic button. They just said, no, 847 00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:47.960 you know, this is we'll figure it out. It'll it'll, it'll start 848 00:47:49.000 --> 00:47:51.679 to even out eventually. It just never did. So I don't know. 849 00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:55.800 Again, the reticence to even try something with Dormany until it was far too 850 00:47:55.880 --> 00:48:00.559 late just was puzzling. A couple of comments here Wade is gone. People 851 00:48:00.599 --> 00:48:04.840 talk about it's not good for I mean, this is just my whatever. 852 00:48:05.000 --> 00:48:07.519 I think you're going to see an extra this of the XFL side we were 853 00:48:08.199 --> 00:48:13.119 the deal was that they were on the contract for the two years. Uh 854 00:48:13.320 --> 00:48:16.159 so they're all the x OFFL contracts are currently on a higher pay structure than 855 00:48:16.159 --> 00:48:21.440 the USFL contracts. That's why heinz Ward left because he they said, okay, 856 00:48:21.960 --> 00:48:24.079 year two, This year you're gonna get paid, but then next year 857 00:48:24.079 --> 00:48:28.199 you're going to get the drop and for whatever reason. Heinz Ward, this 858 00:48:28.320 --> 00:48:30.519 is Mike Mitchell's reporting, and said, I I don't want to do that. 859 00:48:30.679 --> 00:48:34.199 I'd rather leave. I said at the time, I would take the 860 00:48:34.280 --> 00:48:37.039 money right now and then figure out. You always you always always take the 861 00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:39.119 money now and Okay, I'll figure that out next year. But he said, 862 00:48:39.199 --> 00:48:43.000 no, that's why waits here. But you know, if these coaches 863 00:48:43.039 --> 00:48:45.719 get dropped down on the half of whe they're getting paid or more, I 864 00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:47.119 think there's going to be a big drop. I'll be curious. Do you 865 00:48:47.199 --> 00:48:50.800 still get a Bob stoops doing this? Do you still get whatever? I'll 866 00:48:50.840 --> 00:48:52.159 be curious. I'm not saying Wade's gone, but I think that you're going 867 00:48:52.239 --> 00:48:55.320 to see it shifting, at least on the XFL side, because the USFL 868 00:48:55.440 --> 00:48:59.119 coaches, I mean, unless they get rid of like Curtis Johnson because hey, 869 00:48:59.280 --> 00:49:01.400 you're not good at this or whatever. But like I think from a 870 00:49:01.519 --> 00:49:07.119 pure merit of getting paid like that, by not morality, but that feeling, 871 00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:08.800 you know, like the self worth of like is Wade Phillips coming back 872 00:49:08.840 --> 00:49:13.119 for whatever the heck they're gonna pay the next year. I hesitate to say 873 00:49:13.199 --> 00:49:15.440 yes, because, as you said, the pay scales are really a big 874 00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:17.480 batchorate. Again, I mean, I do think the coaches love doing this. 875 00:49:17.639 --> 00:49:21.320 I think Bob Stups likes having a short, you know, short term 876 00:49:21.440 --> 00:49:23.320 job here. I think Wade loves coaching. He's going to coach until wheels 877 00:49:23.320 --> 00:49:28.559 falls falls off. And for me, I mean I hope that a lot 878 00:49:28.599 --> 00:49:30.719 of these coaches don't leave. I mean, you want to see somebody get 879 00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:32.000 their chance. A lot of people yesterday were asking like, well, you 880 00:49:32.079 --> 00:49:35.559 know what, Adre Smith might get a head coach job. Well, we're 881 00:49:35.599 --> 00:49:37.559 not sure. Now after I know, I don't know, Maybe not the 882 00:49:37.639 --> 00:49:40.159 best time to kind of bring that up, but you know, the people 883 00:49:40.320 --> 00:49:44.159 want to see guys get the opportunities and be head coaches, right, And 884 00:49:44.719 --> 00:49:46.400 I will say this about these leagues, the XFL, the USFL, and 885 00:49:46.559 --> 00:49:50.480 UFL. We've seen plenty of guys get their chances. Some have panned out 886 00:49:50.480 --> 00:49:54.360 and some of you know, some haven't have been spec catholic successes and others 887 00:49:54.480 --> 00:49:59.679 have been catastrophic failures. But you want to at least to try that out 888 00:49:59.679 --> 00:50:01.880 at LEAs you want to be able to at least, you know, be 889 00:50:01.920 --> 00:50:06.400 able to bait attest that and say can this work? Can this guy get 890 00:50:06.440 --> 00:50:08.760 a program together and can they do something. I mean again, Skip Holds 891 00:50:08.840 --> 00:50:13.119 is somebody that I paid a little bit of attention to in college, and 892 00:50:13.440 --> 00:50:15.760 now I pay a lot more attention to because of what he did in this 893 00:50:15.880 --> 00:50:19.599 league, because of this tremendous accomplishment. So you can really uplift the profile 894 00:50:19.679 --> 00:50:22.679 of somebody who even has been a head already. But maybe they just need 895 00:50:22.760 --> 00:50:28.559 that right opportunity to really shine and to show their assets and their acumen for 896 00:50:28.639 --> 00:50:31.280 the game. Chris here Wade loves coaching. He do it for free. 897 00:50:31.599 --> 00:50:36.000 I bet you he would. I would bet you I would bet you that 898 00:50:36.039 --> 00:50:37.920 he would not do it. You gotta pay bills. You gotta pay bills. 899 00:50:37.960 --> 00:50:40.719 Here. You can your wishes and buds and candy and nuts. It 900 00:50:40.800 --> 00:50:44.639 doesn't it doesn't pay all that. We got about ten minutes left down here, 901 00:50:44.679 --> 00:50:45.519 and then we're going to pack up and head to the airport. Make 902 00:50:45.559 --> 00:50:49.239 sure if you have any comments, questions, get him in here before we 903 00:50:49.280 --> 00:50:51.480 get out of here. Make sure we do all that. And then, 904 00:50:51.519 --> 00:50:53.559 like I said, Friday episode coming up with Mike hopefully, and then we'll 905 00:50:53.599 --> 00:50:55.840 have Hussy on tomorrow. We'll do CFL stuff. I got it. We 906 00:50:57.199 --> 00:51:00.199 have another game today or did they end yesterday? I got to know all. 907 00:51:00.199 --> 00:51:01.199 I guess I'll catch up on all that stuff when I got home. 908 00:51:04.199 --> 00:51:06.920 General thoughts, anything else that the championship game, you want to make sure 909 00:51:07.320 --> 00:51:08.519 we touch on and then we'll figure out what they boy everyone else wants to 910 00:51:08.519 --> 00:51:13.199 talk about. Well, I just wanted to say, you know, first 911 00:51:13.239 --> 00:51:15.760 of all, like I said, the gate didn't go according to plane, 912 00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:19.480 but what did go beyond my expectations was the people I got to talk to 913 00:51:19.639 --> 00:51:22.440 on this entire trip, and I just wanted to say, and look, 914 00:51:22.800 --> 00:51:25.440 I know we get a lot of comments. Me and re both get a 915 00:51:25.519 --> 00:51:29.960 lot of comments about how we review things. I did get some comments, 916 00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:34.400 including from some a couple lead people yesterday about you know, Andrew, you 917 00:51:34.480 --> 00:51:37.519 have some interesting perspectives. I don't know who's agree with you in your negativity, 918 00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:39.239 but I appreciate your perspective, and you know what, to me, 919 00:51:39.679 --> 00:51:43.400 that made it worth it, because that's all I get care for. I 920 00:51:44.159 --> 00:51:47.039 Look, I'm just grateful that we have this, and that's my biggest takeaway 921 00:51:47.079 --> 00:51:50.199 from this is just I'm grateful to be at a championship game. This is 922 00:51:50.239 --> 00:51:52.639 two years in a row that we've been able to do this, and I've 923 00:51:52.679 --> 00:51:55.559 got I've also been able to see another part of America that I had I 924 00:51:55.599 --> 00:51:58.599 didn't know when I was going to see it. You know. I get 925 00:51:58.639 --> 00:52:00.800 to go to a city that I had on my bucket list for a long 926 00:52:00.840 --> 00:52:04.480 time, Saint Louis, and really just kind of explore more of my country 927 00:52:04.559 --> 00:52:07.920 and more areas that I hadn't had a chance to go to, you know. 928 00:52:07.320 --> 00:52:10.920 And so for me, I'm just thankful to be here and really be 929 00:52:12.039 --> 00:52:15.079 part of this so and to really do this show again for an entire season 930 00:52:15.159 --> 00:52:19.239 again, just you know, to make it by the end. That's really 931 00:52:19.519 --> 00:52:22.719 my biggest takeaway. And just to be around people who care. I mean, 932 00:52:22.840 --> 00:52:27.719 I ran into some DC Defender fans downstairs and their their thing with me, 933 00:52:27.800 --> 00:52:29.920 and they said, they're like, you know, we're just following the 934 00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:30.679 league. We want to go to the league gos, we want to support 935 00:52:30.760 --> 00:52:34.239 this, and there are people like that in the space. I believe there 936 00:52:34.280 --> 00:52:37.280 are people like that in the space. I just want them to be given 937 00:52:37.320 --> 00:52:40.280 the opportunity and new people to be given the opportunity to be part of it, 938 00:52:40.320 --> 00:52:43.800 because I really believe in that, and I believe that energy is there. 939 00:52:44.159 --> 00:52:46.719 I just I want to see that taken care of and fostered. Yeah, 940 00:52:46.800 --> 00:52:49.920 No, I was just I got this up. Yeah, I got 941 00:52:50.000 --> 00:52:52.559 to see the arch. Gotta been on Twitter. I got to celebrate all 942 00:52:52.639 --> 00:52:53.960 that stuff, calling out with every I was cool. I have that fall 943 00:52:54.000 --> 00:52:58.880 everywhere Lewis. You know, maybe we'll see that. Maybe we'll do a 944 00:52:58.960 --> 00:53:02.280 barcar with that. I don't know, like at calls to come back if 945 00:53:02.320 --> 00:53:06.559 Birmingham comes back to Saint Louis, so I might have to read I might 946 00:53:06.639 --> 00:53:08.119 have to come here in your stead. No, but it was fun. 947 00:53:08.639 --> 00:53:12.960 You know, we'll talk. I had a comment here that flew out of 948 00:53:13.000 --> 00:53:16.639 my head here, but kind of moving into oh and that's I want to 949 00:53:16.639 --> 00:53:20.280 say, I'll be here. What I'll be curious now is kind of what 950 00:53:20.360 --> 00:53:22.119 happens in the off season because we talked through the Great Parks Yester down the 951 00:53:22.159 --> 00:53:25.480 show and he was saying, like, you know, he doesn't take expansion, 952 00:53:25.599 --> 00:53:28.880 and they would announce that already. It kind of would have been this 953 00:53:29.000 --> 00:53:31.159 week right the same way, like you know, what was it the XFL 954 00:53:31.239 --> 00:53:36.320 announced their coaches the week the USFL kickoff was We're trying to like I think 955 00:53:36.360 --> 00:53:38.480 there would have been some sort of buzz this week about all that. We'll 956 00:53:38.519 --> 00:53:42.519 see. Darrel said in the interview that you know, they were in his 957 00:53:42.719 --> 00:53:45.679 interview the newspaper a couple of weeks ago, like, you know, the 958 00:53:45.760 --> 00:53:47.920 cities are set, that's the plan. We're working on expansion. But you 959 00:53:47.960 --> 00:53:51.880 know, do we see a bunch of layoffs now season knowing all that, 960 00:53:52.079 --> 00:53:53.840 or we're keeping people on, Like does Corey have a job for the next 961 00:53:53.880 --> 00:53:58.039 six months trying to get people Like I'll be curious what that looks like because 962 00:53:58.079 --> 00:54:00.199 this needs to be a three sixty five year but at three six to five 963 00:54:00.239 --> 00:54:05.119 a year league. But like we've said before with Fox and do they value 964 00:54:05.159 --> 00:54:07.599 that or they just valuate this is this is products that we can put on 965 00:54:07.760 --> 00:54:12.519 and we're moving stuff next year already to make you know, to make room 966 00:54:12.559 --> 00:54:15.920 for racing and that probably pays more money anyway, Like, it's interesting to 967 00:54:15.960 --> 00:54:17.599 me and that they're already redlegating that stuff to Friday next year. It kind 968 00:54:17.599 --> 00:54:22.440 of shows a priority. Yeah, yeah, that's true. I'm curious to 969 00:54:22.480 --> 00:54:23.920 see what's gonna happen with the schedule. I don't think there's gonna be an 970 00:54:23.920 --> 00:54:28.000 expansion. Sorry, guys, I don't believe that's gonna happen this offseason. 971 00:54:28.800 --> 00:54:30.320 We talked about it yesterday. What was gonna happen, you know, with 972 00:54:30.440 --> 00:54:34.920 the investment from Metwork Capital, what's gonna happen there, What's gonna happen with 973 00:54:36.440 --> 00:54:38.480 some of the assets going forward? Are we gonna see any you know, 974 00:54:38.679 --> 00:54:44.039 coaching movement. Are we gonna see what like again one of the things that 975 00:54:44.119 --> 00:54:46.000 we don't want to see really so much stuff this league just disappears for six 976 00:54:46.039 --> 00:54:49.320 months and then comes out of the dark. We want to see, you 977 00:54:49.400 --> 00:54:52.719 know, at least some attention. I know Fox has in NFL they have 978 00:54:52.800 --> 00:54:55.239 to worry about, and there's obviously, you know, big, bigger things 979 00:54:55.280 --> 00:54:58.719 that play here. But I do want to see that they they are at 980 00:54:58.800 --> 00:55:01.239 least keeping this unconscious and are able to be able to get news out about 981 00:55:01.280 --> 00:55:05.800 it, be able to build on this and continue building towards it. Also, 982 00:55:06.920 --> 00:55:09.159 please hopefully try to get some of the tickets sold a little bit earlier 983 00:55:09.280 --> 00:55:12.880 for some of the some of the teams next year. That would be I 984 00:55:12.920 --> 00:55:15.039 think a huge tremendous thing that they could do and just get again, just 985 00:55:15.079 --> 00:55:20.119 get more people involved. There's a lot of questions the off season. I 986 00:55:20.159 --> 00:55:22.360 don't know if those questions are really going to be addressed for a while. 987 00:55:22.519 --> 00:55:25.760 I kind of am a little bit worried about the timeliness of which some of 988 00:55:25.800 --> 00:55:30.000 the questions are going to be addressed, but you know, look, that's 989 00:55:30.079 --> 00:55:32.760 just how it goes sometimes with these leagues. But I agree that I hope 990 00:55:32.800 --> 00:55:36.760 that there's more. I just wish there would be more people that were kept 991 00:55:36.800 --> 00:55:39.039 on full time because there are people that I want to be dedicated to this. 992 00:55:39.280 --> 00:55:42.199 There are people that I want to do this for a living, and 993 00:55:42.639 --> 00:55:45.400 I hope that that there's a way to make that a reality. A couple 994 00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:50.519 of comments here, Abdul says, you don't think Saint Louis Holt's hosts next 995 00:55:50.559 --> 00:55:55.000 year's championship game? No, Like this was your shot, Like that's why 996 00:55:55.199 --> 00:55:59.199 I did all this stuff and yelling at the people, and everyone got like 997 00:55:59.719 --> 00:56:02.440 this was your shot. You don't get to sit out this year because you 998 00:56:02.519 --> 00:56:05.920 weren't in it, and they expect them to bring it back next year. 999 00:56:06.159 --> 00:56:09.880 I mean sorry, Like that's like you had the girl at the bar you 1000 00:56:10.000 --> 00:56:14.800 were talking to and hey, can I get your Like that was your opportunity? 1001 00:56:14.920 --> 00:56:15.960 Like I don't I don't see them coming back. I want to get 1002 00:56:16.000 --> 00:56:21.159 your thoughts on that, Vincent says Veale. Back to San Antonio Almo Dome 1003 00:56:21.280 --> 00:56:23.800 is the best stadium of the league playing Canton. Don't agree with Canton because 1004 00:56:23.880 --> 00:56:28.280 the as Mike Mitchell pointed out, the capacity of Canton is less than even 1005 00:56:28.320 --> 00:56:31.320 the report of attendants yesterday for the Saint Louis game, so that would not 1006 00:56:31.440 --> 00:56:37.440 happen. But I think the Alamo Dome is probably the best option. It's 1007 00:56:37.519 --> 00:56:39.280 close enough to Dallas that you can bust. You know, you can bust 1008 00:56:39.280 --> 00:56:43.159 the players there. They were on charters last night trying to get out. 1009 00:56:43.559 --> 00:56:46.679 That was interesting. But you know, it's central enough in that way. 1010 00:56:46.719 --> 00:56:51.159 It's hard to get people to go to Migieia if you're like I think San 1011 00:56:51.239 --> 00:56:52.880 Antonio central and not if you're able to get a lot of people into that 1012 00:56:53.000 --> 00:56:55.760 curious enough to me, I don't think Saint Louis gets it again next year. 1013 00:56:55.760 --> 00:56:59.079 I think you miss your chance. No, I think, and I 1014 00:56:59.119 --> 00:57:01.400 don't think again. I'm sorry Mellahawks fans, but I don't think it showed 1015 00:57:01.440 --> 00:57:05.320 well to the league that people didn't show up, and I think that's gonna 1016 00:57:05.320 --> 00:57:08.199 be a big long term factor here in terms of that they even think about 1017 00:57:08.239 --> 00:57:12.480 coming back here again. Uh, san Antonio, Well, here's the thing 1018 00:57:12.559 --> 00:57:14.880 read, So this is what I was bringing up earlier in the show. 1019 00:57:15.400 --> 00:57:19.440 Do you look to have more neutral settings? Instead of trying to play in 1020 00:57:19.719 --> 00:57:22.119 a stadium that's being played in already by one of these teams, you try 1021 00:57:22.159 --> 00:57:25.000 to go to a different stadium and say, let's just be here, let's 1022 00:57:25.039 --> 00:57:29.440 just have a neutral spot. Do you play somewhere somewhere in Texas for example, 1023 00:57:29.519 --> 00:57:34.480 do you play somewhere in I don't know, I guess like Tennessee, 1024 00:57:34.559 --> 00:57:37.079 like Nashville or something like that. Like do you pick a neutral setting? 1025 00:57:37.079 --> 00:57:38.199 Do you just put a pin on a map and say, let's just meet 1026 00:57:38.280 --> 00:57:40.800 here and we're not gonna worry about it if we're gonna sell tickets or not 1027 00:57:40.880 --> 00:57:44.000 because that team is not gonna make it. I mean, I know San 1028 00:57:44.039 --> 00:57:46.159 Antonio did last year. But again, I just think that the vibe of 1029 00:57:46.199 --> 00:57:50.039 the Spell was so much more different. It was different, It was different. 1030 00:57:50.119 --> 00:57:52.480 It just it was a little bit different. And I really believe that, 1031 00:57:52.599 --> 00:57:54.639 like people were just not worried about whether, you know, they weren't 1032 00:57:54.639 --> 00:57:57.599 worried to like, oh, my promise didn't make it. I'm not gonna 1033 00:57:57.599 --> 00:58:00.280 go Okay, people were worried about that this was so much more of a 1034 00:58:00.320 --> 00:58:02.599 bigger deal, and I don't know if the league wants to run that risk 1035 00:58:02.639 --> 00:58:06.760 again. I think they just want to be able to just have a nice 1036 00:58:06.840 --> 00:58:09.639 neutral setting. So for me, I'm gonna say this, I think they're 1037 00:58:09.679 --> 00:58:14.639 gonna seriously consider just not being in a stadium from one of these teams again. 1038 00:58:14.639 --> 00:58:16.239 I think they're gonna just say, let's just do neutral sites from now 1039 00:58:16.320 --> 00:58:21.960 on. It's so weird. And just to round this out again that it 1040 00:58:22.239 --> 00:58:24.960 was different last year and it wasn't it would be different this year if it 1041 00:58:25.199 --> 00:58:29.960 was. Okay, this isn't even inner conference, right, we're booing the 1042 00:58:30.079 --> 00:58:31.960 stallions, right, hey, we're the exit, Like no, they were 1043 00:58:32.039 --> 00:58:36.719 booing the brahmas. I mean, this was we are upset, and I 1044 00:58:36.840 --> 00:58:39.559 don't understand that because this is a you know, it's play the wins sport 1045 00:58:39.679 --> 00:58:43.679 and you lost far and square and that is what it is. But that 1046 00:58:43.960 --> 00:58:46.239 is the difference. It wasn't even like XFL on USFL crime. It was 1047 00:58:46.360 --> 00:58:50.079 like, no, we're mad at like, we're just mad. And I 1048 00:58:50.679 --> 00:58:52.719 totally different vibe, You're right than last year, totally different. I find 1049 00:58:52.800 --> 00:58:57.639 that fascinating too. How many times have you heard the last years about both 1050 00:58:57.679 --> 00:59:00.840 of these leagues, both these conferences, people comparing them. That's the value 1051 00:59:00.920 --> 00:59:02.599 is the film. Which one's better, which you know, better players, 1052 00:59:02.679 --> 00:59:06.719 better coaches, which one gets more fans, blah blah blah TV ratings, 1053 00:59:07.199 --> 00:59:10.599 Like there's been so much juxtaposition of like which one is better? And then 1054 00:59:10.719 --> 00:59:15.199 here's the opportunity to support a team from your league, and that's just not 1055 00:59:15.360 --> 00:59:19.920 how it wins. The vibe was not there. I really find that fascinating 1056 00:59:19.960 --> 00:59:22.760 because people have made such a big point about supporting NEXTICO conference and now I 1057 00:59:22.880 --> 00:59:27.039 kind of saw a little bit of a division with that yesterday and said and 1058 00:59:27.760 --> 00:59:30.239 people just said, you know what, no, you're here, I'm Matt, 1059 00:59:30.519 --> 00:59:32.280 I don't I don't even want to support the conference. I just I 1060 00:59:32.400 --> 00:59:36.159 just want to be against you. And that I don't know, that really 1061 00:59:36.199 --> 00:59:38.840 surprised me, considering some of the interactions and just so much of the grand 1062 00:59:38.880 --> 00:59:42.800 stating that people have done the last two years. I really I really was 1063 00:59:42.960 --> 00:59:45.239 kind of almost confused by that. Well, I just just to be done 1064 00:59:45.239 --> 00:59:47.159 with this year. Becau, we're gonna get off here and just the grand 1065 00:59:47.239 --> 00:59:51.840 staying that the BattleHawks fans and we're carrying all this stuff, we're supporting, 1066 00:59:51.960 --> 00:59:55.000 and like I just I was very shocked last week and my Twitter when I 1067 00:59:55.119 --> 00:59:59.199 got a lot of negative and I've had a lot of BattleHawks people and follow 1068 00:59:59.320 --> 01:00:02.599 me and that's fine, and like, uh, you you can't you know, 1069 01:00:02.840 --> 01:00:07.000 shout caught cough from the rooftops for the last three years and say that 1070 01:00:07.079 --> 01:00:08.760 you're the cats pajamas with all this stuff, and then when it comes time 1071 01:00:08.840 --> 01:00:13.360 to put up, you sit mad at home like I don't. And it's 1072 01:00:13.400 --> 01:00:16.159 not wasn't some weird fluky and a tiebreaker and it went down to the points 1073 01:00:16.159 --> 01:00:21.400 score they get like you lost, not even I mean you made the playoffs. 1074 01:00:21.440 --> 01:00:22.679 It wasn't even you guys didn't make it. Like I just, I 1075 01:00:22.840 --> 01:00:25.199 I'll never and I said, I don't think they'll do it here, and 1076 01:00:25.440 --> 01:00:30.760 and it's it's shame on them. I mean, sorry, wow, anything 1077 01:00:30.800 --> 01:00:32.079 else here, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna log off anything else 1078 01:00:32.159 --> 01:00:35.119 or anything. Thanks everyone, like I said, for you know, checking 1079 01:00:35.159 --> 01:00:37.280 it out. Congrats to the Stallions, Congrats to everybody. With the league 1080 01:00:37.320 --> 01:00:39.880 and both conferences and all the exacts and everything. I got a lot of 1081 01:00:39.920 --> 01:00:45.280 that, Like really didn't even congratulate them whatever, last couple of years of 1082 01:00:45.320 --> 01:00:47.519 congratulations everybody, anything else. And before we get out of here, no, 1083 01:00:49.079 --> 01:00:51.800 like I said, super happy, you have to do this. I'm 1084 01:00:51.800 --> 01:00:54.559 allowed to do this again with you in person is always a treat. I 1085 01:00:55.000 --> 01:01:00.440 again, just really enjoyed my overall experience. Overall, I definitely want to 1086 01:01:00.480 --> 01:01:04.159 try and come back here again for another game and be at a ballot game 1087 01:01:04.599 --> 01:01:07.119 when people show up to the stadium. I would like to actually experience that. 1088 01:01:07.559 --> 01:01:12.719 But like I said, you know this Dalans thing, who knows. 1089 01:01:12.800 --> 01:01:15.280 I mean they're gonna go for number four next year? Man, I mean 1090 01:01:15.320 --> 01:01:17.920 this is this is immense. I really felt like we were watching history last 1091 01:01:19.000 --> 01:01:22.440 night. So you revolutions to them again. We'll see what happens going forward. 1092 01:01:22.480 --> 01:01:25.199 But always be just thankful to be part of this and be with you. 1093 01:01:27.119 --> 01:01:29.519 Yeah, thanks for taking part, Thanks for making the time. Andy's 1094 01:01:29.559 --> 01:01:34.199 on here there, that's good. I appreciate it. And thanks Anthony, 1095 01:01:34.239 --> 01:01:37.400 who's I'm sure furiously riding the way right now getting it all his step up, 1096 01:01:37.920 --> 01:01:39.519 Zach Channy, everyone in the chat. We appreciate it. Like I 1097 01:01:39.559 --> 01:01:44.000 said, check in Friday, we'll figure all that stuff out. We're gonna 1098 01:01:44.000 --> 01:01:46.480 get back on the plane here and we'll see you guys next time. Thanks again