1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:06,559 You're listening to the Paranormal UK Radio Network, the best in paranormal talk radio 2 00:00:06,799 --> 00:00:13,320 in the UK and around the world. Paranormal Dimensions is fortnightly on Mondays on 3 00:00:13,359 --> 00:00:24,399 the Paranormal UK Radio Network. You are listening to Paranoral Dimensions on the Paranoral 4 00:00:24,600 --> 00:01:30,200 UK Radio Network. Good detail. This is Sir Patrick Moore and you're listening 5 00:01:30,239 --> 00:01:34,599 to the Paranormal You Okay Radio Network. Do You Okay is biggest paranormal radio 6 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:49,359 network and this is Paranormal Dimensions with David. Hello, Welcome to the show. 7 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,319 I'm David Young. I'm still getting over the Festival of the Annexplained, 8 00:01:53,439 --> 00:01:57,280 which was an amazing weekend. Now it seems we're all getting ready for next 9 00:01:57,319 --> 00:02:01,359 years you've been I've already boot my anyway, for this show, I've got 10 00:02:01,359 --> 00:02:06,840 another returning guest. He was on a few months ago, but things have 11 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,639 happened and seeing things are progressed with what he's doing and I wanted to invite 12 00:02:10,719 --> 00:02:14,919 him back on a game. So it's mister Neil Pecker. You may remember 13 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,599 if you heard the show. He runs a haunted museum which is full of 14 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:23,800 artifacts which are said to be haunted. So let's kick off with Neil Pecker. 15 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:29,120 Neil, welcome back to the show. Hi, thanks for me. 16 00:02:29,879 --> 00:02:32,520 No, it's brilliant. We earlier in the year, I think it was 17 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:36,520 in May, wasn't it that we did? We were invited to do a 18 00:02:36,599 --> 00:02:42,560 talk each not together at the East Normally investigation group. We did. It 19 00:02:42,719 --> 00:02:45,560 was a good weekend, wasn't it. It was a brilliant weekend. I'd 20 00:02:45,599 --> 00:02:51,719 never been to the It was a farm museum in Skeedes. I'd never been 21 00:02:51,719 --> 00:02:53,879 to that place before. I don't know if you had. Yeah, we've 22 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:59,639 investigated twice before, I think many many years ago though, right. Yeah, 23 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:04,439 it's my first visit there, and I found it quite fascinating. You 24 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,719 know. After we've given our talks during the day, we were allowed allowed 25 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:13,680 to wander around the place and and have a few sort of paradim investigations, 26 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:20,520 and there were some quite interesting results I discovered, you know. Unfortunately, 27 00:03:20,599 --> 00:03:24,080 I think there was quite an I think the thing was with the groups. 28 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:29,400 They seem the sort of great that they sort of venture off and start having 29 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:30,800 tea breaks all the way through it, you know, rather than sort of 30 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:38,159 doing lots of investigations but h to their own or guests but yeah, but 31 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:42,280 along along the way there was some really interesting stuff going on. You know. 32 00:03:43,039 --> 00:03:46,439 Yeah, it's an interesting playstag because all the buildings, I think all 33 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,960 the buildings or most of the buildings have been brought in from all the locations. 34 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:55,439 So that's that just asked more questions than normal, isn't it. Yeah, 35 00:03:55,479 --> 00:03:59,479 it does. I mean I was. I was particularly impressed with the 36 00:03:59,639 --> 00:04:01,759 with the I'm not quite sure what they called it, but somebody wears their 37 00:04:01,759 --> 00:04:05,759 headphones so they can't hear what other people are saying. That other people are 38 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:11,159 asking questions. Yeah, yeah, I don't know if there's a particular name 39 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:15,520 for it. Well, most people call it the aster's method. We asked 40 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:20,160 the noise Recuestion module because we're just like to be different. Yeah, but 41 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:25,199 some of the things that were coming out, we're matching exactly what was you 42 00:04:25,199 --> 00:04:28,759 know, the people were asking the questions, and the people obviously couldn't hear 43 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,399 those questions, but they were coming because what they're getting in their headphones is 44 00:04:31,759 --> 00:04:36,480 I reply basically from wherever, you know, from the other side somewhere. 45 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,759 Yeah, it's an interesting experimental thing, it is. It's very interesting. 46 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:46,399 But also back to even I actually bought your book, which was mere Curious 47 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:50,600 and the Shattered Mirror. Now I haven't actually, I've got to be honest, 48 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:54,199 I hadn't actually sort of setting ready to cover to cover. But I 49 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:58,560 do dive in and out of it occasionally because it's it's kind of a story. 50 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,560 But you can actually dive in and out read little bits and pieces of 51 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,040 it, can't you. Yeah, And it's kind of your it's kind of 52 00:05:04,079 --> 00:05:10,600 your life story. Yeah, it's how It's how I got into the paranormal 53 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:15,720 in the first place and what led up to me in the Hunten Antiques Paranormal 54 00:05:15,759 --> 00:05:20,279 Reset Center. So it's it's how h APRC began basically. Yeah, I 55 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:26,399 mean where the world Mercurio has come from? Well, Mercurius was the first 56 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:31,319 creature that we had, and it was we're during this Saturday, we were 57 00:05:31,319 --> 00:05:39,399 given some chemist bottles and I opened one just because some nosy and the bottle 58 00:05:39,519 --> 00:05:44,399 that the labor on the bottle was said me curious. But later on that 59 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,319 evening, Jane, who's the medium and center, she came in and she 60 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:53,600 said there's there's a creature crawling about the floor and she said, spirits are 61 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:58,759 telling her and the spirit was telling Jane that I'd opened a bottle and released 62 00:05:58,759 --> 00:06:04,600 this creature. So that's where the mecurious come from. And actually mercurious means 63 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:09,959 spirit in the bottle. Oh it does, right, Okay, Yeah, 64 00:06:10,079 --> 00:06:13,920 I mean I'd actually writt little bits of but I sort of wanted to explain 65 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:15,839 for people out there because we'll be plugging your book a little bit lateral. 66 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:21,600 Yeah, it's it's our first creature. We've got a lot more now at 67 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:26,360 the center, but he cures for the first one. Yeah. Well, 68 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:31,120 it's got a subheading of the shadow Figures, Poor Tools and Sinister Stairways of 69 00:06:31,199 --> 00:06:35,680 the Haunting a Antics Paranoral Research Center. Yeah. And on the cover it's 70 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:40,199 got like a mirror with a skeleton in the in the in the mirror and 71 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,480 like a portal type of thing. It's a very effective cover. Actually, 72 00:06:43,519 --> 00:06:47,360 you like it? Yeah? And he saw from the Hodging magazine designed that 73 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:56,000 it designs all our posters and things and Andy, he's a clever man. 74 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:00,000 M Yeah, it's a very good it's a very clever picture. Actually good 75 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,279 design. But so, I mean, so you didn't get a lot of 76 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:09,079 chance to do any sort of peril investigations at the farm. I don't believe, 77 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,720 did you, because I think you had to shoot off. No, 78 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,199 I am well, I had to shoot off because I was struggling with my 79 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,639 I struggled my left ankle many many years ago when I used to play football. 80 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:25,160 I broke my left ankle. Went to the local hospital. They said, 81 00:07:25,199 --> 00:07:29,360 no, it wasn't broken. But it turns out it was broken it 82 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:33,279 And it's sad that wrong if you're on me. So if I stand up 83 00:07:33,319 --> 00:07:40,839 too long, I'm struggling with my left ankle. You know, the doctors 84 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:46,199 said they can break it and do it again. I've got Now that's nice 85 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,639 to say that. Yeah, I'm sixty three, I'm not that by. 86 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:55,439 I don't stand up that much. But I've just been struggling. So when 87 00:07:55,439 --> 00:07:58,800 I did my talk, I was sort of sort of half sitting, half 88 00:07:58,839 --> 00:08:05,319 standing. So Jane, Jane had my place on the investigations and she enjoyed 89 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,639 it. Yeah, it was a great She's on the show next, next, 90 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,040 the next show in two weeks times, so yeah, there you go 91 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,759 next. I guess the next thing I will talk about is that the reason 92 00:08:16,839 --> 00:08:20,800 that I sort of wanted to get you back on the show is when I 93 00:08:20,839 --> 00:08:24,360 heard your talk at the event. I thought, I've got to get Neil 94 00:08:24,399 --> 00:08:28,639 back on the show because it sounds like he's got some exciting things coming up. 95 00:08:28,639 --> 00:08:33,200 You know, you've not got just a Haunted the Antiques Museum. Now 96 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:37,440 you're doing some events that sound really good. Yeah. I like to keep 97 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:41,519 it a bit busy. The thing is, I come up with some crazy 98 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:48,120 ideas and I'm just lucky that my wife Julie and my team of Jane Aiming 99 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:52,320 and sort of backed me up and they go along with these sometimes crazy ideas. 100 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:56,759 So yeah, we a couple of years ago we started the Para Meet, 101 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,440 which is a bit like the panel or convention. We have guest speakers 102 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:07,559 and we have vendors and we do paranelm investigation experiments that sort of thing. 103 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:13,080 We've done two now. We had our second one beginning in September, but 104 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:18,759 we're planning on doing three next year all around the country. So that's exciting. 105 00:09:20,159 --> 00:09:22,360 Yeah. Unfortunately I missed your second one because we were in the we 106 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:28,679 we had to go to Romania. Yeah, we had a Romania trip books, 107 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:33,000 so unfortunately it was the same. This sort of matched your second paramet. 108 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,240 But I did go to your first one, which was at Bosworth Hall, 109 00:09:35,519 --> 00:09:37,919 which I think we mentioned sort of one the last time we were on 110 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,679 the show, and it was and it was really popular, wasn't it. 111 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:45,360 It was so there were so many people there it seemed like everyone was crammed 112 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:50,039 into one one room that was not big enough for it. Really. Yeah, 113 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:54,240 that's something else I think is important for us is not to hold the 114 00:09:54,240 --> 00:10:00,120 paramet at the same location every year. It's you know, other's doing That's 115 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:07,639 fine, but I could There's so many amazing hotels with lots of history all 116 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:11,200 around this country that we can go to, so I don't It's not for 117 00:10:11,279 --> 00:10:15,480 me to say at one location. You know, this year we did Brand's 118 00:10:15,519 --> 00:10:20,559 overhauling Rugby. Last year was Bozzwethal So next year it's going to be three 119 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,440 different locations. One in the South of England, one in the Midlands and 120 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:30,559 one in the North of England. Well do you know those locations yet exactly 121 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,519 or or you're playing those calls close to your chest at the moment. Well, 122 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:37,720 I've got a meeting with the Midlands one on Thursday while Jane and Julie 123 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:43,320 organizing it, and I'm speaking to one in the South and one in the 124 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:48,879 North. Now, so hopefully this weekend acnounds where we're going and the dates 125 00:10:48,879 --> 00:10:50,720 that we're doing them on. Yeah, I did see something on Facebook that 126 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,279 you were going to be doing some announcements this weekend. So yeah, we're 127 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:58,600 actual facts. This weekend is last weekend because when the show goes out next 128 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:05,559 weekend, oh yeah, you would have already amounced that. Else hopefully they'll 129 00:11:05,639 --> 00:11:09,480 they'll be announced there. I'm just gonna there's some I'm just gonna cross the 130 00:11:09,519 --> 00:11:13,840 tees and dot the eyes basically, yeah, basically announce. I'm just hoping 131 00:11:13,919 --> 00:11:16,399 that the one that you're going to have in the South is around about the 132 00:11:16,519 --> 00:11:20,080 date that I could make it. And also I don't have to book into 133 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:24,720 a hotel because I'm actually I'm actually sick of going to hotels and rotten hotels 134 00:11:24,759 --> 00:11:28,240 and you know, yeah, you've been asked if I can go to it 135 00:11:28,279 --> 00:11:30,759 and then come home and then maybe if you if you're doing a two is 136 00:11:30,759 --> 00:11:33,559 it a two day one or yeah, there'll be a Sati and Sunday the 137 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:37,399 same as this year, right, Okay, so I'm hoping it'll be close 138 00:11:37,519 --> 00:11:41,120 enough to come home and then go back to it again. Where about what 139 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:46,159 about you? Well, I mean Canby Island, es six, So all 140 00:11:46,279 --> 00:11:50,200 right, if it's about two hours or that'll be all right. Yeah, 141 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:54,159 I'm not going to give anything away, all right, is it on Canvy 142 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:58,600 Great, No, we'll just have to wait and see what that's going to 143 00:11:58,639 --> 00:12:01,919 be. So sugar up, but so yeah, I'm looking forward to that. 144 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,639 You are you can you mention any sort of guests that you're going to 145 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:13,559 be having. Well, we've already I've been approached by quite a few different 146 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:18,080 people who want to do talks. Obviously, it depends on the dates and 147 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:22,720 the locations, you know, from the some speakers have done the last two, 148 00:12:22,799 --> 00:12:26,879 like Neil's stories said they'll come back, Paul Godard hazel Ford from Horney 149 00:12:26,919 --> 00:12:33,080 Dappenings, Kate Cherrell, Kate Ray, They're all going to come the voras 150 00:12:33,159 --> 00:12:37,559 ever come back. And Richard Phelix has said as long as dates fitting with 151 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:43,879 his diary, he he's prepared to do all three. So Richard Phelix aback 152 00:12:43,919 --> 00:12:46,399 he was at the first one that he couldn't make the second one, but 153 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:52,480 he's he's already said, yeah, he'll be happy to join us at least 154 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,120 one year. Yeah, I like I like Richard also Neil's story is always 155 00:12:56,120 --> 00:13:00,399 great as good as you know. He's a good friend of one any way, 156 00:13:00,519 --> 00:13:03,480 and he was obviously he was at the festival. He had explained last 157 00:13:03,519 --> 00:13:09,000 weekend too, and he was absolutely brilliant. He's a great character. I 158 00:13:09,039 --> 00:13:11,320 think. I love of Neil. Yeah, I mean I was actually surprised 159 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:16,399 because he's just brought a book out, a Bram Stoker book. He's actually 160 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:20,720 sold twenty tales and copies already. I can't believe that. It's it's that's 161 00:13:20,759 --> 00:13:24,159 fantastic. It's unbelievable, you know. And I was lucky to get one 162 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:28,480 of the first, the first of the twenty print offs that he had because 163 00:13:28,639 --> 00:13:33,480 so he actually numbered them at once. I've got the number fourteen with the 164 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:41,519 yeah, sort of released it at the Paramede in September, so you were 165 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:45,879 the first one and the other nineteen first ones were sold at the Paramte. 166 00:13:45,919 --> 00:13:48,720 So yeah, it's brilliant, absolutely. I mean he does deserve it because 167 00:13:48,759 --> 00:13:52,440 he's uh yeah, what he puts it, puts into his research. He's 168 00:13:52,519 --> 00:13:56,960 that he's phenomenal, you know. Yeah, and he does deserve it. 169 00:13:56,519 --> 00:14:00,600 Yeah, that was actually I was actually amazed that he's sold that many copies 170 00:14:00,639 --> 00:14:03,000 were really so he's got to go into a second printing already. That's that's 171 00:14:03,039 --> 00:14:07,399 fantastic news. Yeah, yeah, it's brilliant. So so what have you 172 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:11,200 done? Also? I mean something else that So when you when you were 173 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:16,440 giving your talk, you mentioned about your new network. You set up a 174 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:20,519 video network. Is it a video network you call it? It's it's actually 175 00:14:20,559 --> 00:14:26,799 a TV channel. It's ghost Plant Network is what it's called. It's on 176 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:33,799 all mobile devices now, it's it's on Roku tv and if you download the 177 00:14:33,879 --> 00:14:37,159 internet app on Amazon fire Stick, you can get it on Amazon fire Sticks. 178 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:41,960 So it's it's everywhere anywhere in the in the world you can see ghost 179 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:48,759 Plant Network. And it's it's a huge project for me and the team, 180 00:14:48,799 --> 00:14:54,320 but it's something I think is our next stage in our journey. So it's 181 00:14:54,440 --> 00:15:01,759 very exciting. It's been going since June of this year and it's just growing. 182 00:15:01,879 --> 00:15:05,080 You know, We've got it's not just the work that we do that 183 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:09,320 goes on it. It's the work that other lesser known panel teams who go 184 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:15,320 out at weekends and film the stuff put it on YouTube but get a hundred 185 00:15:15,399 --> 00:15:22,120 views, but they're as long as it's true and respectful. They can submit 186 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:28,279 it to GPN and if if I think it's warrants going on, I'll put 187 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:33,159 it on. Yeah, it's very inclusive. We've got mostly based on English 188 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:39,559 teams or British teams, but we've got from a team from New Zealand, 189 00:15:39,279 --> 00:15:45,720 Mark Warbank. His team's pointing videos on there, and last week we put 190 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:52,080 our first USA team on. So it's we're in USA and Australia now as 191 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:58,799 well, so which is very exciting and it's something I want to build up 192 00:15:58,799 --> 00:16:02,480 on obviously. Yeah, it can only grow anyway, cult it once you 193 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:06,799 start getting some Americans and Australian seems like you say, and you've got Canada 194 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:08,919 and all sorts of alopence in the world of the world. And I guess 195 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,679 it's one of those things where language wouldn't really matter that much, would it, 196 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:17,120 because if you've got someone thweaking a different language because you're seeing the visuals 197 00:16:17,159 --> 00:16:21,960 of things. Yeah, yeah, most of the most of the content is 198 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:26,039 visuals videos, but however, but I want I like to do things different, 199 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:30,600 so I've included podcasts as well. So I've got a few podcasts. 200 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:37,360 You know, there's no video, it's just audio because I think people would 201 00:16:37,399 --> 00:16:41,559 like to listen to it anyway, So I'm trying, and we're gonna have 202 00:16:41,639 --> 00:16:45,080 some eventually. We're gonna have some debate shows on there. We're gonna have 203 00:16:45,159 --> 00:16:51,559 discussion shows on there. So it's the good thing is it's not governed by 204 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,919 a big production company, you know, who say it's going to be scary, 205 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,480 it's going to be you've gotta have the fear factor. We don't. 206 00:16:59,559 --> 00:17:06,680 You know, anyone who does pandormal investigating knows some some investigations are pretty down 207 00:17:06,759 --> 00:17:11,680 boring. But that's how that's that's how it is. Yeah, that's right. 208 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:15,519 I mean, yeah, I think we mentioned that before. You can 209 00:17:15,839 --> 00:17:18,400 you can spend sort of hours of an evening when nothing's happening, and then 210 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:22,359 all of a sudden, something will just happen and just when you're thinking about 211 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:26,799 or giving up and going home, yeah, something that happened to peak your 212 00:17:26,839 --> 00:17:30,359 interest. And of course, you see, it doesn't have to be scary. 213 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:34,480 You know, they could be talking to an old grandma and I having 214 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:38,640 a great chat with this this old grandma in the spirit world. It's not 215 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:45,359 scary, and it's it's actually quite nice. And I think obviously the mainscreen 216 00:17:45,799 --> 00:17:49,880 TV won't show that sort of thing they want. They want demons, don't 217 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:56,440 they, especially the Americans. So we show the nice side of the paranormal, 218 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:00,160 because that's to me, that's how the major the paranormal is it. 219 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:06,440 It's nice stuff. It's it's the grandmas and the dads and the moms and 220 00:18:06,559 --> 00:18:11,160 the children. And I think that's more realistic to me. Yeah. I 221 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:15,640 think we mentioned that before, because they're basically just you and I, aren't 222 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,599 they the people that go on the other side. We our lives end and 223 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:23,839 we just carry on, I guess in our normal selves, or do we 224 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,640 or do we take on different personas. I don't know. You know, 225 00:18:29,279 --> 00:18:33,640 I think you are as you are in life, and if if you're a 226 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:37,240 nice person in life, you're a nice person in death. If you're if 227 00:18:37,279 --> 00:18:42,720 you're evil, you're evil. That's that's down to your very soul. Yeah, 228 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:47,759 I'm just wondering if their actual spiritual selves are actually the same as our 229 00:18:48,039 --> 00:18:52,680 human selves. I'm not saying that we become evil when we go to the 230 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,279 other side. I'm just wondering if if our spiritual selves know a little bit 231 00:18:56,279 --> 00:19:00,359 more. Obviously they are spiritual selves, no more about our human selves, 232 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,720 and I guess they can only be better than our human selves. Maybe, 233 00:19:04,799 --> 00:19:08,400 yes, yes, probably we're all going with that. Yes, I agree. 234 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:12,599 I agree because they know more than we do, don't they because they've 235 00:19:12,599 --> 00:19:17,119 seen what you know, we haven't. We don't see what's the other side 236 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:18,880 that they have seen. What's the other side. Yeah, And we've got 237 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:25,200 our human failings and things that we're trying to learn from and the mistakes we 238 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:30,160 make and the bad decisions we make and everything right, and I guess we 239 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:34,160 have to face up to that on the other side later on. Yeah, 240 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:38,720 yeah, I mean, so, how many shows you think you've got on 241 00:19:38,759 --> 00:19:44,440 there now on the Ghost Planet currently? I think it's one hundred and sixty 242 00:19:44,519 --> 00:19:48,799 nine. That's that's really good going in it at the time. Yeah. 243 00:19:48,839 --> 00:19:52,960 I tried to put ten on, at least ten on every week, and 244 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:56,200 you know, some weeks, for example, the Paramet week weekend, I 245 00:19:56,200 --> 00:20:00,240 didn't put any on because I do it all myself. You know. If 246 00:20:00,279 --> 00:20:04,720 if if I'm putting something that we've done, I have to edit it down 247 00:20:04,839 --> 00:20:10,759 and all this. But it all takes time, you know, And even 248 00:20:10,799 --> 00:20:15,480 when teams send me their their content, I have to encode it and format 249 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:22,480 it to the TV screen, you know. You know, if I if 250 00:20:22,519 --> 00:20:26,640 I'm putting, if I'm uploading ten videos on up to the channel, I 251 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,440 have to run it overnight. I have to leave it uploading overnight, because 252 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:34,799 sometimes it can take eight to nine hours just to upload. Yeah, I 253 00:20:34,839 --> 00:20:38,000 can understand that. I mean, when you upload things to YouTube, et 254 00:20:38,039 --> 00:20:41,640 cetera, it can take you quite a few hours calling it. Yeah, 255 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,960 it all depends how long the videos are, obviously, and what's what's including. 256 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:48,160 You know, if it's just a podcast, it doesn't take so long. 257 00:20:48,279 --> 00:20:52,319 But if you've got video in it as well, it's the process. 258 00:20:52,519 --> 00:20:56,599 And and I'm doing this all myself, you see, so and I have 259 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:00,799 all the things to do. So yeah, I mean, do you do 260 00:21:00,799 --> 00:21:08,480 you actually reject much? Or I've rejected about four so far, four teams 261 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:15,279 because I just didn't feel that they were true, right, I think there 262 00:21:15,319 --> 00:21:19,599 were. I thought they were faking stuff and I won't have that. I 263 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:26,720 don't think hate and they were into the drama. I don't like paranormal drama. 264 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:32,839 I don't like fakers. So I think I've rejected three or four. 265 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:38,319 That's that's it. And you know there's there must be forty categories each Each 266 00:21:38,759 --> 00:21:42,920 team has got their own category, so there must be forty categories on there 267 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:47,880 now. You know, whether it's the shows that we do, like the 268 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,599 Panel or Blackout, that's one category, the demon connections is another category, 269 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:56,400 and so on. So I think it's about forty different categories on there now. 270 00:21:56,519 --> 00:22:00,000 So m hm, yeah, interesting. I mean I was going to 271 00:22:00,039 --> 00:22:03,559 talk to you about demons. Actually, I know they've got the demon's connection 272 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,559 on there. Yeah, I think we might have covered this a little bit. 273 00:22:07,599 --> 00:22:11,079 But what's your opinion about all the demons that pop up on all the 274 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:18,640 especially the US shows. They're very popular the USA. But I personally and 275 00:22:19,319 --> 00:22:23,200 Dame will tell you the same. I think US it is totally different to 276 00:22:23,319 --> 00:22:29,880 England. I think the USA because the Native Americans, they were very spiritual. 277 00:22:30,759 --> 00:22:36,200 I think the USA I've got their own sort of normal issues because the 278 00:22:36,279 --> 00:22:41,960 Native Americans and the way they were treated by the white settlers. So I 279 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:55,400 think the Native Americans spiritually do cause the USA some issues. Unfortunately, the 280 00:22:55,440 --> 00:23:00,559 American TV shows will class them all as demons, but I don't think that's 281 00:23:00,559 --> 00:23:02,559 the case. I might be wrong, but I just don't think that's the 282 00:23:02,599 --> 00:23:07,440 case. Obviously in the way. We haven't got that sort of kind of 283 00:23:07,519 --> 00:23:11,319 history, have we, And we've got a history in the UK. My 284 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:19,039 opinion omons is because we do the Demons connections. The demon Connections is focusing 285 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:25,079 on the semite demons of the Lesser Key of Solomon. I think we've done 286 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:33,119 knocking on thirty so far. I think where the demon connections is where Jane 287 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:38,160 has got an invocation from the world of spirit. How do invite a particular 288 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:44,160 demon into the attic room at the Center or wherever we film in So she 289 00:23:44,319 --> 00:23:51,160 invites a particular demon that we've chosen to work with that night, and we 290 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:55,160 just have a chat with them, whether and we use different equipment, or 291 00:23:55,160 --> 00:24:00,440 whether it's the pathfinder board or dazz in rods or a crystal ball we've used 292 00:24:00,519 --> 00:24:07,359 before. Whatever method Jane thinks is right for that particular demon, that's what 293 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,960 we'll use. And to be honest with we haven't come across a bad one 294 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:21,680 yet. We do believe there's a big battle in in the stars or in 295 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,720 the in the heavens, whatever you want to call it. And these demons 296 00:24:26,079 --> 00:24:32,920 is just a label and they they've been demonized basically from the Church so the 297 00:24:33,039 --> 00:24:37,440 church does. I'm not religious. I apologize if I offend anybody with these 298 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:47,039 comments. We're not religious, but the Church as demonized these entities. I 299 00:24:47,839 --> 00:24:52,599 believe demons are are just aliens from the planets, and that's that's what they've 300 00:24:52,599 --> 00:24:59,359 told us anyway, But because they wanted to do things that the Church or 301 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,200 God didn't want them to do. For example, we've come across one demon 302 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:07,240 and we want to teach Manki and mathematics, but he was demonized for it. 303 00:25:07,319 --> 00:25:14,799 One wanted teaches about the stars, but he was demonized for it because 304 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:25,720 they didn't fit in with the plan. So so they basically, in our 305 00:25:25,759 --> 00:25:30,480 opinion that they just want to help us, and they've got they've all got 306 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:36,920 their own personalities. Some we've come across one one in particular just just couldn't 307 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:41,559 be bothered. Really. He came because Jane invited him, and he answered 308 00:25:41,559 --> 00:25:45,200 a couple of questions and he says, I can't rather did it anymore, 309 00:25:45,319 --> 00:25:51,079 I'm going, and he just went. Others have been so helpful, so 310 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:57,599 informative. You know, we're one demon connections that stands in my mind in 311 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:04,319 particular, I Jane put me into into a meditative state so then she invited. 312 00:26:04,519 --> 00:26:08,039 She invited the demon, and she asked the demon to go to where 313 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:15,160 I was in my meditation state and to speak through me. So I was 314 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:21,480 writing words down and doing symbols and all sorts. And the information that he 315 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:30,559 he told us through me was amazing, and the symbols and they all made 316 00:26:30,559 --> 00:26:41,880 complete sense. So that's the demon connections we when we first started, you 317 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,839 know, it's it's mainly just me, Jane, Amy and and that do 318 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,440 it. Sometimes my wife Julie comes in, is involved, or my son 319 00:26:48,519 --> 00:26:53,720 Ben's involved, and we all know there could be risks, but we we 320 00:26:53,799 --> 00:26:59,319 all accept that we want to learn. You know. It's it's so easy, 321 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,359 basically the paranormal to be sort of blinkered. You know. The experts 322 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:10,119 say, don't mess with demons, so no one questions this. Yeah, 323 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:15,039 but we liked it. It's same as wegeboards, you know, we question 324 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,200 whether these so called rules come from To me, a wegeboard is just a 325 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,160 normally a bit of cardboard with letters and numbers on. It's it's down to 326 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:27,519 your intent who comes through. It's just another tool a wegeboard in my opinion. 327 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,559 But to be honest, we are learning so much about demons and entities 328 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:44,119 through the Demon Connections series. That to be honest, Demon Connections GPN is 329 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:48,359 the most important thing to me at the minute because I'm loving doing with that. 330 00:27:48,599 --> 00:27:52,279 The Demon Connections is the second most important thing that I do in my 331 00:27:53,160 --> 00:28:00,279 paranormal journey because we're just finding out so much about them. Yeah, I 332 00:28:00,279 --> 00:28:03,400 mean I have been sold. There's a few of my friends that have been 333 00:28:03,799 --> 00:28:07,720 on, you know, especially into the Antiques Museum, and they've been telling 334 00:28:07,799 --> 00:28:11,759 me a few of the things that they've experienced there, but things that have 335 00:28:11,839 --> 00:28:18,359 been moved and everything when they've been downstairs. Adam Adam Grieves is a good 336 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:22,480 friend of mine. I think he's you know, and quite well and he's 337 00:28:22,519 --> 00:28:29,200 had some quite amazing experiences there. Yeah, is that the center is quite 338 00:28:30,599 --> 00:28:36,480 to me. It's unique and I think mainly because of our incense that we 339 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:41,319 put into it. And again you see, we we don't go by these 340 00:28:41,599 --> 00:28:48,680 so called rules. For example, portals. Jane will open a portal and 341 00:28:49,119 --> 00:28:57,880 for specific entities to come through just as an experiment, and we leave the 342 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:03,720 portals open. Some teams have come on and said we're very irresponsible for doing 343 00:29:03,759 --> 00:29:08,000 that, but we're all okay, you know, the center has been open 344 00:29:11,039 --> 00:29:17,960 five and a half years. We're okay, nothing Armageddon has not happened yet 345 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:23,000 because we live the portals open. But we class ourselves a research cents, 346 00:29:23,079 --> 00:29:27,559 you see, So we want to ask these questions and we will try different 347 00:29:27,559 --> 00:29:33,200 things to find the answers as as many of the answers as we can. 348 00:29:33,279 --> 00:29:37,079 Obviously we're not going to find all the answers until we passed ourselves. So 349 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:44,200 but we we are learning. We are learning so much. And but I 350 00:29:44,279 --> 00:29:51,359 do think we've learned more since we were doing the demon Connections than anything else 351 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:56,359 that we do. And and I just can't wait every time we do a 352 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,640 demon connections. Were used to them as a lie fee, but now we 353 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:04,839 feel them for GPN. And after we finished, we're just we're all four 354 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,319 of us. We're just on a buzz, you know. We just want 355 00:30:08,359 --> 00:30:15,799 to get onto the next one because each each one is has given us more 356 00:30:15,839 --> 00:30:21,319 information. We are planning on the Sunday, Poor Halloween. We're are planning 357 00:30:21,319 --> 00:30:27,960 on doing our first live stream on GPN, so that's exciting with a Demon 358 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:36,039 Connection special, and we're going to do the Devils of lu Don, a 359 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:41,960 very famous possession thing that happened in France. So we're going to Jane's going 360 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:48,519 to invite the seven demons that we're supposedly involved in that possession of nuns. 361 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,440 There are seven bit of demons in the Possession of dun as well. Oh 362 00:30:52,519 --> 00:30:56,079 no, I don't think I've heard of that one. But there's there's an 363 00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:00,759 article in the latest issue of Haunting magazine I haven't got Yeah, yeah, 364 00:31:00,839 --> 00:31:03,559 you need to read it. And that's that's how you're the background of the 365 00:31:03,839 --> 00:31:10,160 devils. There was a film made with Oliver Read in the nineteen I remember 366 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,839 the old film three thing. I think it got banned or it got heavily 367 00:31:15,039 --> 00:31:18,440 edited. Yeah, yeah, I don't remember it being and it was banned 368 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,039 I believe for what and then they did the release an edited version of it. 369 00:31:22,039 --> 00:31:26,799 It was actually quite horrific. Yeah yeah, But Oliver Read didn't take 370 00:31:26,839 --> 00:31:33,000 a fee for it because he says he feels the story needs to be told. 371 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:40,240 I think it was Oliver Read and the director weren't paid because they they 372 00:31:40,839 --> 00:31:47,880 thought the story was so important to get out there. No James Garrow theories. 373 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:52,200 She she doesn't think there was actually any demons involved in it, but 374 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,759 we're going to find out on October twenty ninth, So we're going to invite 375 00:31:56,799 --> 00:31:59,680 them, We're going to do it. We're going to stream it live and 376 00:32:00,279 --> 00:32:06,119 goes Planet Network. I think it's gonna be interesting. Oh it sounds it. 377 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,960 I mean interesting that all of Marie was actually a believer of him. 378 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:13,319 Oh, I've no idea, to be honest, because I know you sold 379 00:32:13,359 --> 00:32:16,359 it in quite a few Hammer films, didn't he yea in his early days. 380 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:22,680 Yeah, I have no idea. Jane's probably the best one to ask 381 00:32:22,799 --> 00:32:25,440 about that, because Jane does most of the research for us and she does 382 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:29,960 all the reading, because I just leave it to Jane. Yeah. No, 383 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:31,400 just make sure I didn't actually know that he never took a fee for 384 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,720 it. And I do remember seeing the film and I know the end was 385 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:43,079 absolutely horrific. The when I that the stake scene. What what they what 386 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:53,079 the church did to this this priest thick And it's yeah, we're going to 387 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,279 find it. Hopefully, we're going to find out when we do our live 388 00:32:55,359 --> 00:33:01,720 feed what really happened, because we last and straight out we we you know, 389 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,000 we're going to say about the story, were you actually involved? Did 390 00:33:06,039 --> 00:33:09,039 you do this with the nuns. I've got no doubt they're going to say 391 00:33:09,039 --> 00:33:14,440 no. And they'm happy about having that reputation because quite quite a few demons 392 00:33:15,319 --> 00:33:21,599 I'm not happy about the reputed that they do now that they don't. They 393 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:29,279 don't feel they deserve that sort of label. It's simply because of the Church 394 00:33:29,359 --> 00:33:37,920 and Hollywood praise these demons and that's that's all evil and they're intent on doing 395 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:45,240 harm. But to me, they're not. Yeah, yeah, I guess 396 00:33:45,279 --> 00:33:47,359 we ought to apologize to some of our American friends that may be listening to 397 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:52,720 this show. We're not getting at you, but because I actually do enjoy 398 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:57,839 a lot of the American Most Haunted, Yeah, not Most Haunted, but 399 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:04,079 the Haunting shows, And I think great and I think sometimes things that are 400 00:34:04,119 --> 00:34:09,679 called demons are probably just mischievous spirits. Anyway. Well, I always say, 401 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:15,239 because the world of the Fay, that fairies and goblins and all these 402 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:22,199 other creatures, I would sooner sit in a room with a demon than a 403 00:34:22,519 --> 00:34:27,719 nasty as from the Fay world, because they can be very aschievous. They 404 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,239 can be quite nasty that you know. These fairies aren't like thinker Bell, 405 00:34:31,119 --> 00:34:36,920 and they can be quite mischievous. And which we've experienced Sani as well. 406 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,920 You know, we've we've had some fate into the sense that and they cause 407 00:34:42,039 --> 00:34:47,760 more trouble than the demons that we come across so far. In my opinion, 408 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,639 something you mentioned when you were like what you were talking about different methods 409 00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:59,440 you is do you mentioned the path find the methods by is that the path 410 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,119 finder ball. It is a board. It's a little bit of weege board, 411 00:35:02,599 --> 00:35:07,599 but it's not only got numbers and symbols on. It's got crystals on, 412 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:15,719 and it's got images on and all on a shield or a dove or 413 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:22,360 it's all these different symbols. And if the planchet just goes to a symbol, 414 00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:27,960 Jane has got the instruction of the booklet and she reads out what symbol 415 00:35:28,039 --> 00:35:35,480 means. So it's not always spelling out words. It's a it's a it's 416 00:35:35,519 --> 00:35:38,960 a lot. To me, it's a lot more believable because you know, 417 00:35:39,119 --> 00:35:49,000 I none of us can remember what the symbols mean. And with without without 418 00:35:49,039 --> 00:35:57,280 doubt, every single symbol that this particular demon goes to, it fits in 419 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,440 with what we're doing or what we're going through that particular time. I've you 420 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:07,719 know, whether whether we've had some hassles, you know, we've we've because 421 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:15,079 some people don't like what we do, they try to causes some hassles at 422 00:36:15,079 --> 00:36:22,000 the center because so the demon will go through the symbols that reflects what we're 423 00:36:22,039 --> 00:36:25,960 going through at the same at that particular time, which is which is fantastic, 424 00:36:27,079 --> 00:36:30,519 you know, it's I do believe they're watching what we're doing. They 425 00:36:30,119 --> 00:36:35,159 and they even tell us they'll go to the number are the next demon that 426 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:39,760 that's waiting to come and talk to us. So they are waiting to come, 427 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:46,880 which is quite exciting. Well, you mentioned do you actually get problems 428 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:54,000 with the local people then from where it's not local people as such, we 429 00:36:54,440 --> 00:37:00,920 have had a few instances of teams coming in and first the last one happened 430 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,800 a few a couple of months ago, a team someone left a load of 431 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:13,400 melanite crystals hidden all around the rooms, and melanite is for banishing spirit what 432 00:37:15,079 --> 00:37:21,360 and they were hidden so that it was left on purpose. And for two 433 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:25,159 weeks while that melanite was in all the different rooms, we had no activity 434 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:29,199 at all. When I when I'm when I say no activity, I mean 435 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:35,760 not there was nothing those spirits there at all because the melanite had had banished 436 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,719 all the spirits, whether the resident spirits or spirits has just come in that 437 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:46,559 all the portals have been closed. So fortunately, someone I think it was 438 00:37:46,639 --> 00:37:52,440 Barry, who comes up a lot. He found a handful, you know, 439 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:58,079 there was this melanite filled two handfuls. There was that much of it 440 00:37:58,159 --> 00:38:01,639 up there. Someone had left it up there on purpose. It wasn't a 441 00:38:01,679 --> 00:38:08,440 mistake. But what they don't really okay, for two weeks were the place 442 00:38:08,639 --> 00:38:14,079 was was pardon the pun, but it was dead. But once Jane comes 443 00:38:14,159 --> 00:38:20,880 up and Jane opens everything up, it comes back with with such a force 444 00:38:21,079 --> 00:38:29,639 that it's ten times more spiritual filled than before. Uh, you know, 445 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,360 Jane, Jane goes around the rooms, opening everything up and inviting them all 446 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:38,199 back. Then Jane and I went up the night the night after and the 447 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:44,199 energy of the building was intense. You know, we couldn't go up into 448 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:49,320 the attic. It was just so intense because it was just it was the 449 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:55,079 energy was so powerful. But that's that's what Forestly, that's what Jane can 450 00:38:55,159 --> 00:39:00,639 do. Jane, Jane is such an asset to the same to excuse me, 451 00:39:00,679 --> 00:39:07,719 and such an asset to everything that we do, and since since she's 452 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:13,079 done that, the activity is has been off the scale, which is good. 453 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,920 You know, it's good that when we do our work. Yeah, 454 00:39:17,039 --> 00:39:20,599 I mean, I've got to say. It does say something to me about 455 00:39:20,639 --> 00:39:24,000 what they did, though. It actually, in itself, it actually kind 456 00:39:24,039 --> 00:39:29,639 of supports it support, It supports what's going on there, doesn't it. 457 00:39:29,639 --> 00:39:32,719 It means that there there is activity going on there and it was stopped because 458 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:39,480 of this this stuff that was left all over the place. He's still there, 459 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:45,119 Yeah, could you not hear me? Yeah? Then all right, 460 00:39:45,199 --> 00:39:49,039 I was talking. Maybe I don't know what happened there. Yeah, I 461 00:39:49,079 --> 00:39:52,719 was just saying that what in people that leave in net mellanite all over the 462 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:59,159 place. It actually it gives support to what your center is all about, 463 00:39:59,199 --> 00:40:01,840 doesn't. It actually proves that there's stuff happening there? Yeah? Yeah, 464 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,760 Yeah. If that stuff was left all over the place and all of a 465 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,119 sudden it stopped everything that was going on until you found it, you know, 466 00:40:09,519 --> 00:40:14,320 it's kind of it supplies evidence within itself, doesn't it. Yeah? 467 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,960 Yeah, I think so. I don't understand. Excuse me, I don't 468 00:40:19,039 --> 00:40:24,920 understand why people do that sort of thing, because I understand some people don't 469 00:40:25,079 --> 00:40:30,280 like what we're doing with the Demon Connections. I get that because it's not 470 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:37,079 what the paranormal does as as a field, is it, you know they 471 00:40:37,519 --> 00:40:44,400 people teams don't or location don't invite on purpose demons into your building. No, 472 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:49,039 So I understand, I get that some people don't like what we're doing 473 00:40:49,039 --> 00:40:53,880 with the Demon Connections. But to be honest, if they watched the Demon 474 00:40:53,920 --> 00:41:00,519 Connections series on GPN, it would open their eyes and actually, what you're 475 00:41:00,559 --> 00:41:04,440 doing. To be honest, to be honest, the Demon Connections, to 476 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:09,920 watch it, it's pretty boring because we're not being possessed, We're not things 477 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:17,239 aren't being thrown about the room, and it's just four people in a room 478 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:24,519 chatted basically chatting to a demon. He will he might ask us a question. 479 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:30,719 We can question it if he wants to answer it. If he doesn't 480 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:36,639 want to answer it, he just won't answer it. And to be honest, 481 00:41:36,639 --> 00:41:38,719 when we first started, that happened quite a lot. They wouldn't answer 482 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:45,800 some of the questions because we we had to earn their respects, so to 483 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:50,480 speak. But because we've done so many and now they know what our intention 484 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,800 is. You know, We're not doing it for power, we're not doing 485 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:59,079 it for glory or ego or anything like that. We're just doing it because 486 00:41:59,079 --> 00:42:05,719 we want to know. We're fortunately that people want to watch it, but 487 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,679 if no one wants to watch, we still do it anyway because we want 488 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:15,039 to know. We want we want to know that that truth of demonic against 489 00:42:15,159 --> 00:42:20,159 us, and we are finding it. To me, we are finding the 490 00:42:20,159 --> 00:42:24,599 truth out, which is very very exciting. It's it's changed my whole perspective 491 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:30,800 on the paranormal and life in general, to be honest, it's it's serious. 492 00:42:31,199 --> 00:42:36,960 Is that life changing? And some of the comments we get from the 493 00:42:37,039 --> 00:42:39,199 viewers when we used to do them live, some of the comments saying, 494 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:45,760 wow, we never thought of demons like this. It's but when they look 495 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:52,039 into it and watch more, they say it makes complete sense, which is 496 00:42:52,159 --> 00:42:55,519 which is great. So you know, we're not Satanists, we're not devil 497 00:42:55,599 --> 00:43:02,119 worshipers, we don't do any of this sort of rubbish. It's to me, 498 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:09,280 it's just proper research into demons. So you do feel that you're still 499 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:14,519 learning a lot then, even after all these years. Oh yeah, yeah, 500 00:43:14,639 --> 00:43:19,199 we got so much more to learn. You know, We've got seventy 501 00:43:19,199 --> 00:43:22,519 two demons on the on the less the care Solomon to do. I think 502 00:43:22,519 --> 00:43:28,360 we've done about thirty I can't remember the exact number in itself. Is amazing, 503 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,000 isn't it's seventy two demons. Yeah, you know, there's there's all 504 00:43:31,039 --> 00:43:37,199 the supposed the other ones lower than but we're just focused on these seventy two 505 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:43,480 demons to start off with. And yeah, if eventually, eventually we're going 506 00:43:43,559 --> 00:43:49,119 to when when the demons thing we're ready, we will we will invite Lucifer. 507 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,239 Well, is that a good idea? Yeah, I think so. 508 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:59,320 Oh oh that's a point. Actually, so you actually believe that there is 509 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:05,639 a Lucifer? They've always as such. Yeah, yeah, And oh, 510 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,000 I know you said that you were religious and or I'm not either, But 511 00:44:08,159 --> 00:44:12,559 I mean, doesn't that mean that if there's a devil, there's got to 512 00:44:12,599 --> 00:44:20,039 be a god, as will Well were. I believe that it goes back 513 00:44:20,079 --> 00:44:28,199 to the dawn of mankind. I believe the earth well was colin o Aliens, 514 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:32,239 and I do think mankind were created as a slave race. That's what 515 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:36,800 I believe. And I think there was a big fall out between these these 516 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:44,119 two powerful entities. One was called en Lil and one was called Anky. 517 00:44:44,559 --> 00:44:50,400 Ankie wants to give mankind basically free will. He wants to he's saw potentially 518 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:54,400 in mankind. But and they'll said no, they'll pray to me because I 519 00:44:54,519 --> 00:45:00,199 created them, which sounds a little bit like God, doesn't it. M 520 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:07,079 hm? So I think I don't believe in God as a man sitting on 521 00:45:07,119 --> 00:45:12,000 the cloud on that sort of thing. I don't believe he created the world 522 00:45:12,039 --> 00:45:14,960 in six days or whatever it was. I don't know much about the Bible 523 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:20,039 I must have met, but I do believe there's there's higher powers in the 524 00:45:20,159 --> 00:45:23,519 universe. I think, and a demon has told us the universe has the 525 00:45:23,559 --> 00:45:29,360 answer. The universe is all powerful. Yeah, I mean, I've got 526 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,000 I've got to say that. I mean, from the perspective the story that 527 00:45:32,039 --> 00:45:37,360 you just told, it actually does make more sense than than all powerful God, 528 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,519 to be honest, I mean, I think it's much more believable to 529 00:45:40,559 --> 00:45:45,960 be that there's a powerful alien force out there, maybe the leader of an 530 00:45:45,679 --> 00:45:52,000 intergalactic federation or something which could be which could be classed as a god. 531 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:58,039 You know. Well, they there's there's so much more that we're not being 532 00:45:58,079 --> 00:46:01,639 told now. For example, stargate. So I believe stargates did exist, 533 00:46:02,599 --> 00:46:07,880 and a demon has told us they traveled here through stargates. But again, 534 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:13,920 you see when you've got to look at the Pagans as well, and the 535 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:21,239 Christianities basically built all their churches on pagan religious sites. Yeah, and I 536 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:27,719 particularly demon I can't remember his name is says the stargates were on pagan sites 537 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:35,480 and as they built the churches, they sort of demolished or stopped the stargates. 538 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:43,960 So that and they travel on ships. Now, M there was a 539 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,079 story I don't know if what you feel about it, but when Ireq was 540 00:46:47,119 --> 00:46:52,599 invaded that they actually was the main reason they wanted to invade Ireq was to 541 00:46:52,639 --> 00:46:55,440 actually find a stargate. Yeah. Yeah, Whether that's true or not, 542 00:46:55,480 --> 00:47:00,440 I don't or if it's just a you know, very festibul story or don't 543 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:06,880 know. I actually believe that story is true. Yeah, it wouldn't surprise 544 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:12,119 me either, you know, because Ireq was really goes back to the dawn 545 00:47:12,159 --> 00:47:16,840 of mankind, doesn't it. Yeah, So yeah, it's quite that that's 546 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:23,159 where sort of Babylon was, That's where where basically all started that that region, 547 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:27,960 isn't it M M Yeah, it's fascinating stuff. I have to say 548 00:47:28,039 --> 00:47:31,800 it. If it's not true, it seems something. Yeah, absolutely, 549 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,760 it's something we'll never know and it will be very interesting to see what sort 550 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,239 of results you come up with. So what the what date was that? 551 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:44,440 Again? For that? Particularly the live it's on Sunday, the twenty ninth 552 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:50,119 of October, the twenty ninth of October, there's one. It's due to 553 00:47:50,199 --> 00:47:53,760 start at nine pm. It's available on GPN, which is on all your 554 00:47:53,760 --> 00:48:01,679 mobile devices and Roku and Amazon fire Stick and basically it's gonna it's hopefully it's 555 00:48:01,679 --> 00:48:07,360 going to be a good night. It's going to be our first live stream 556 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:13,320 on GPN, so that's exciting in itself. There's those Planet Network, that's 557 00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,119 GPS network. Yeah. Sorry, And it's quite easy to find double because 558 00:48:16,159 --> 00:48:20,400 I've actually got I've got my stick my stick already. You've got a couple 559 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,559 of weeks ago. Well I've really sort of had a little sort of prob 560 00:48:22,679 --> 00:48:24,440 round on it. I haven't had a lot of time to look on it 561 00:48:24,519 --> 00:48:28,280 yet, but yeah, yeah, it's very easy. Fine, and it's 562 00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:35,440 if you just type in the website www sorry www dot goes plant network dot 563 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:39,440 com. That'll take you straight to the website and all the on demand shows 564 00:48:39,559 --> 00:48:43,559 on there, and you'll get the live stream on there as well, So 565 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,039 it's it's it's ever, you can get it everywhere. M I was actually 566 00:48:47,039 --> 00:48:51,039 thinking, you know, a lot of these shows that I do on here 567 00:48:51,119 --> 00:48:54,039 on this on this network, I actually upload them to my YouTube channel. 568 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:59,639 So does this mean that I could actually ask you if if you want to 569 00:48:59,639 --> 00:49:06,639 have more older shows on your network? Yeah, of course, yeah, 570 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,440 yeah, because I do, because they're my own sort of stuff rather than 571 00:49:09,639 --> 00:49:14,639 the network, although it's got all these these are for the radio network, 572 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,360 but because I put them up on YouTube in my shows anyway, So yeah, 573 00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:22,280 yeah, all you have to do is give me your permission and you 574 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,079 can either stand me the link the YouTube link to the particular show that you 575 00:49:25,119 --> 00:49:30,880 want me you'd like me to put on, and I can grab it off 576 00:49:30,039 --> 00:49:34,599 off YouTube. That's that's quite easy. I've been sure because I could actually 577 00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:38,280 just give you from from number one up was two. Actually I want I'm 578 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:42,679 a bit beyond it uploading them at the moment, but but perhaps by all 579 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,400 the time you catch up with me, Okay, I'll be able to catch 580 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,480 up with my YouTube videos. Yeah, and I know what it's like getting 581 00:49:47,559 --> 00:49:52,960 behind because I've got so many ways in my queue to get onto the channel. 582 00:49:53,119 --> 00:50:00,800 It's it's, it's, it's it's excited. Yeah, it's just finding 583 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,039 time for me at the minute's because I do a different mix, you see, 584 00:50:04,039 --> 00:50:06,880 I mixed some different there. I put a different title on the front 585 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,519 of everything. Yeah, but yeah, I mean i'll do that. I'll 586 00:50:09,519 --> 00:50:13,480 send you I'll send you a link to a couple of the earlier ones and 587 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,400 then we'll go from there. Perhaps send you a couple of weeks or something. 588 00:50:17,039 --> 00:50:21,679 Yeah, that'd be great. Well, I mean that's been great talking 589 00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:25,320 to again. So there's the ghost Planet Network. Is that? Is there 590 00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:31,199 actually a network page for that as well? Can you actually? Yeah, 591 00:50:31,199 --> 00:50:36,800 you can find it on the on the website www dot ghost Planet network dot 592 00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:40,840 com. And that's how watch all the all the videos on demand, so 593 00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:45,400 that they're always there when you whenever you want to watch it. And you 594 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:49,880 can't find there's a there is actually a Facebook link because on the faceboot link 595 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:54,159 as well. Yeah, apart from yourself Neil Pecker. And also you've got 596 00:50:54,199 --> 00:51:01,159 the book again, was called It's Mere Curious and the Shattered Mirror Neil by 597 00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:06,960 Neil Pecker. Yeah, direct for me or on Amazon. I think it's 598 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,400 on as well. He has two hundred and twenty eight pages spriftly. Yeah, 599 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:19,280 and it's actually quite it's actually very fascinating. Order the Haunted Museum got 600 00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,480 started basically and tells you a lot about the artifacts and what's been going on 601 00:51:22,519 --> 00:51:27,079 there over the years. Yeah. Good, Yeah, very good. Okay, 602 00:51:27,119 --> 00:51:31,559 I wish you look forward to finding out about your events for next year, 603 00:51:31,679 --> 00:51:37,480 Neil. Hopefully I'll be able to get to one because I've actually I've 604 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,760 actually made the promise that I'm actually going to sort of not go to many 605 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,760 next year because I've got I was so fed up we're going to events and 606 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:49,480 getting a rotten hotel, you know, and I'll sort of paid up in 607 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,000 mind that I weren't going to do anymore hotels. I'll sort of just go 608 00:51:52,079 --> 00:51:53,599 to ones that I could drive to it and go home again. Yeah. 609 00:51:54,760 --> 00:52:00,400 Yeah, yours will not be too far away, so hopefully so it gets 610 00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,719 a bit expensive as well when you've got events, the hotel, it to 611 00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:07,639 PayPal and a fuel on top of it. Yeah, yeah, definitely. 612 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,440 Anyway, it's been great talking to again. You'll thank you for coming on. 613 00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:14,960 As I say, we've got Jane on the on the next show, 614 00:52:15,039 --> 00:52:20,920 Jane Rowley after this, so it soccered a double whammy for this month. 615 00:52:21,519 --> 00:52:27,400 That's good. She'll be telling us more about the demon connections as well, 616 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,840 so yeah, Jane, Jane can go more in depth with it and and 617 00:52:31,559 --> 00:52:36,679 things. Say, Jane is a really like I said, she's an asset 618 00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:38,679 to me and to the center. That's right. I mean, I do 619 00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:42,440 remember I've mentioned to you about a year ago I'd like to get Jane on 620 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:47,400 the show all talking everything. So we finally got around to it. So 621 00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:51,920 it's hopefully I'll see you again. So it anyway, just to say once 622 00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:53,360 again, thanks for coming on. Deal. It's been great talking to you. 623 00:52:53,679 --> 00:52:57,199 That's my pleasure. Thank you, Thank you. You take care of 624 00:52:57,199 --> 00:53:00,920 yourself. Yes and yeah cheers Neil blobe By blah By, thank you by. 625 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,360 That was Neil Pecker. Thank you very much. Neil. Right, 626 00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,800 my next show is going to be with Jane Rowley, who also works with 627 00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:14,079 Deal very closely at the Haunted Antique Museum as a bit of a double whammy 628 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,320 for October at a haunted antiques museum. As mentioned on the show, Jane 629 00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:22,840 is also the resident medium, so that should be interesting if you'd like to 630 00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,719 get in touch with me before then. As always, my email address is 631 00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:30,360 David Young took you in at yahoo dot co dot uk. That's David Young 632 00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:35,840 took you in at Yahoo dot co dot UK. So until the next time 633 00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:39,440 with Jane Rowley, and that'll be on the sixteenth of October as Monday the 634 00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:45,239 sixteenth of October Jane Rawley. So until then, as always, take care 635 00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:50,000 of yourselves and I'll speak to you on Monday the sixteenth of October. Bye 636 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:54,679 bye. Paranormal Dimensions is as bright and powerful as our celestial star, the 637 00:53:54,760 --> 00:54:00,519 sub and although it's expending thousands of pounds of energy every minute to the day, 638 00:54:00,920 --> 00:55:13,719 have no fear. There's plenty left m Paranormal Dimensions is fortnightly on Mondays 639 00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:15,079 on the Paranormal UK Radio Network.