WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:04.799 You'll do away five seventeen. Do you want to report a UFO it? 2 00:00:05.360 --> 00:00:09.439 We don't want to report every thirty one. Do you wish to report a 3 00:00:09.519 --> 00:00:15.679 UFO over hey, we want one of those areas thirty one. Do you 4 00:00:15.679 --> 00:00:19.440 wish to find a report of any kind of it? I wouldn't know what 5 00:00:19.600 --> 00:00:27.160 kind of reports cloud times areas thirty one me neither there were self if it 6 00:00:27.280 --> 00:00:31.440 was anybody a U above us to pass us, Like thirty seconds ago, 7 00:00:32.200 --> 00:00:37.039 we were sending one top of golf negative, okay, OFFI the UFO. 8 00:00:37.759 --> 00:00:42.759 Yeah it's murder ten nine o'clock. Yes, I'll just passed over God. 9 00:00:43.200 --> 00:00:46.479 I don't know what it was, but it's from at least to three thousand 10 00:00:46.479 --> 00:00:51.320 feet above us. See, I passed right over the top of US ninety 11 00:00:51.320 --> 00:00:58.679 one one. You just called both to me before they're after staying the airplanes 12 00:01:00.159 --> 00:01:07.159 he is iere to God. More calm on an unidentified object every Liberty four 13 00:01:07.319 --> 00:01:18.040 call or calm on an Unidentified flying object. A Welcome to UFO Chronicles a 14 00:01:18.040 --> 00:01:23.400 place where people share their experiences of the strange and unexplained. If you've had 15 00:01:23.439 --> 00:01:27.079 an encounter, I would like to be on the show. You can email 16 00:01:27.159 --> 00:01:49.040 me at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com. Hello everyone, and welcome to 17 00:01:49.079 --> 00:01:53.719 the show. How are you all doing. I'm Nick Hunter and you're listening 18 00:01:53.719 --> 00:01:59.079 to the UFO Chronicles podcast. Tonight we meet Bridget from the United Kingdom, 19 00:01:59.120 --> 00:02:02.599 and Bridget has worked with many of the world's leading researchers of ailing abductions, 20 00:02:02.840 --> 00:02:07.840 including the late Bud Hopkins, Dolores Cannon, John Mack, and tonight she'll 21 00:02:07.879 --> 00:02:13.199 be speaking about some of her own personal encounters, including a close encounter on 22 00:02:13.280 --> 00:02:17.319 the four h five Freeway in Los Angeles in nineteen ninety three. Bridget is 23 00:02:17.400 --> 00:02:21.599 up next, but first, if you enjoy the show and you would like 24 00:02:21.639 --> 00:02:24.400 to help support the podcast on Patreon, you can do this for as little 25 00:02:24.400 --> 00:02:30.039 as one dollar a month. Head on over to patreon dot com forward slash 26 00:02:30.240 --> 00:02:34.240 UFO Chronicles podcast. You can also find a link in the description of this 27 00:02:34.319 --> 00:02:54.960 episode. Any help is very much appreciated. Now on the show, Hello 28 00:02:55.120 --> 00:03:00.120 Bridget, Welcome to the podcast. Hi next, thank you allow me to 29 00:03:00.120 --> 00:03:04.840 be on your podcast. Thank you for coming on today. And you're calling 30 00:03:04.919 --> 00:03:07.360 from the United Kingdom. Yeah, with an accident like yours and mine, 31 00:03:07.439 --> 00:03:12.000 Yet I am definitely here in the UK where it's cold, wet and windy, 32 00:03:12.919 --> 00:03:15.639 cold, wet and windy. Now, Bridgie, you have some experiences 33 00:03:15.680 --> 00:03:19.039 you're going to be sharing with us. Would you like to start at the 34 00:03:19.080 --> 00:03:23.400 beginning, please, ma'am. Yes. So, from a very very early 35 00:03:23.439 --> 00:03:31.680 age I used to have paranormal experiences of the ghost kind. So I would 36 00:03:31.680 --> 00:03:37.039 have been about six at the time when I first saw my first ghost, 37 00:03:37.360 --> 00:03:40.879 which was very scary to see. For the first time, I was staying 38 00:03:40.919 --> 00:03:46.639 at a friend's house and I was sleeping on her top bunk bet because I 39 00:03:46.680 --> 00:03:53.560 was the guest. I had no prior experiences with anything at that point, 40 00:03:53.039 --> 00:03:57.439 and I think that I was sort of like fall blown into it from this 41 00:03:57.599 --> 00:04:05.199 experience late at night, bunk watching moth bats fly outside very old Victorian house 42 00:04:05.240 --> 00:04:11.680 in a very lovely little village in Devon. I believe Marnie herself was asleep 43 00:04:11.719 --> 00:04:15.319 at the lower bunk and I was just watching what was going on with the 44 00:04:15.360 --> 00:04:19.439 street lights and the moths, and then all of a sudden, a lady 45 00:04:20.360 --> 00:04:27.240 solidly appeared in the left hand side of the room, and I remember sort 46 00:04:27.279 --> 00:04:31.240 of like looking thinking, this is a lady, and she was in a 47 00:04:31.319 --> 00:04:34.920 chair like a rocking chair, sort of the typical horror sort of scenario, 48 00:04:35.720 --> 00:04:42.680 and I just looked, and I kind of looked around the room, and 49 00:04:42.800 --> 00:04:48.000 the room had changed totally. It had totally gone back in time. Weavings 50 00:04:48.040 --> 00:04:53.879 on the wall, what would have been Marne's wardrobe was no longer there. 51 00:04:54.000 --> 00:04:58.360 It would be weavings on the wall. She was sitting in a chair, 52 00:04:58.519 --> 00:05:05.199 long sort of skirt dress, older lady, and I just remember looking very 53 00:05:05.399 --> 00:05:10.240 frightened, sort of like you know when you have the covers right up to 54 00:05:10.319 --> 00:05:13.800 you, and looked at her. I don't know if she looked at me, 55 00:05:13.879 --> 00:05:16.240 but she was sort of I didn't physically look her in the eyes or 56 00:05:16.240 --> 00:05:19.639 anything like that, but I just saw her. She then sort of went 57 00:05:19.680 --> 00:05:24.160 to touch the window, and then she disappeared and the room went back to 58 00:05:24.240 --> 00:05:27.600 normal. It would have taken me a little bit of a while to go 59 00:05:27.680 --> 00:05:30.480 back to sleep, because I was a bit frightened. Totally remembered it. 60 00:05:30.519 --> 00:05:34.959 The next morning, I told Marnie, and then I remember us going downstairs 61 00:05:34.959 --> 00:05:42.879 with breakfast, and then I told excitedly and yeah, sort of like couldn't 62 00:05:42.879 --> 00:05:47.040 believe what had happened to her. Mum and everybody in the house had seen 63 00:05:47.079 --> 00:05:51.519 her before, so it was a validation that what I had witnessed was real. 64 00:05:53.120 --> 00:06:00.120 And at that point onwards, then the paranormal the ghosts just constantly would 65 00:06:00.800 --> 00:06:05.120 I would see them. So another encounter would have been with me and her 66 00:06:05.519 --> 00:06:10.560 again, Marnie in the back garden. I think it was about nineteen seventy 67 00:06:10.680 --> 00:06:14.600 seven. It was the silver Due belief, because I remember the English mugs 68 00:06:14.639 --> 00:06:18.079 are all given out. I was in her back garden. We had a 69 00:06:18.120 --> 00:06:23.800 tent in the back garden and sandwiches, probably cake at the time, I 70 00:06:23.800 --> 00:06:27.480 don't know. I just remember the sandwiches. We were lying down and her 71 00:06:27.680 --> 00:06:30.680 garden sort of sloped well you could either however where you looked at it either 72 00:06:30.680 --> 00:06:34.079 sloped up or it sloped down. But we were facing her house, and 73 00:06:34.160 --> 00:06:39.720 she had her house a patio, quite a long patio, and a rockery 74 00:06:40.240 --> 00:06:44.240 and then the garden in the grass. We were positioned to the right hand 75 00:06:44.240 --> 00:06:47.800 side of her garden with the tent flaps open, and it was dark. 76 00:06:48.240 --> 00:06:54.639 We ain't no sandwiches talking. All of a sudden we both saw little people. 77 00:06:55.000 --> 00:06:59.240 They would have probably let's say, might have been you know, half 78 00:06:59.319 --> 00:07:03.560 a meter in in height, maybe a little bit smaller than that, and 79 00:07:04.040 --> 00:07:09.800 they were jumping in and out of the rockery, so they would be going 80 00:07:09.839 --> 00:07:14.600 on top of the big rocks and behind something coming out from the other side 81 00:07:14.600 --> 00:07:19.120 of the rocks. I don't recall us interacting with them. We were just 82 00:07:19.160 --> 00:07:25.600 in awe with watching them and they were clothed. We remembered it well. 83 00:07:25.600 --> 00:07:29.519 I remembered it. Both remembered it at the time because I remember talking to 84 00:07:29.560 --> 00:07:33.240 one about it. And my dad was very creative. We had a great 85 00:07:33.319 --> 00:07:40.240 childhood growing up, and I remember telling my dad and my dad just said 86 00:07:40.240 --> 00:07:45.240 to me, you know, that's what happens at night. The little people 87 00:07:45.560 --> 00:07:48.319 come and pick up tidy up the garden, so to speak. If there's 88 00:07:48.319 --> 00:07:53.720 anything like a dead mouse somewhere or something, they the little people pick it 89 00:07:53.800 --> 00:07:57.160 up. And being you know, like seven, you say, yeah, 90 00:07:57.199 --> 00:08:01.000 that kind of makes sense. I had other experienperiances. It's obviously in the 91 00:08:01.000 --> 00:08:07.439 same village, the same place I was living with. My experiences were in 92 00:08:07.519 --> 00:08:11.279 my room at night. I had an exercise that I used to do, 93 00:08:11.399 --> 00:08:18.720 which would have been an out of body exercise which I would get excited to 94 00:08:18.720 --> 00:08:22.600 go to bed to meditate, and things I used to look around the room 95 00:08:22.079 --> 00:08:26.480 used to go out of my body, float above myself, study my bedroom. 96 00:08:26.720 --> 00:08:28.920 I could move this, I could do that, and could do this, 97 00:08:30.120 --> 00:08:33.159 and then would go back into my body, generally if I heard movement 98 00:08:33.279 --> 00:08:37.080 coming up the stairs or something. But I always longed to, oh God, 99 00:08:37.120 --> 00:08:39.720 I'm so excited to go to bed, and I could do that exercise 100 00:08:39.720 --> 00:08:43.960 again. I used to do it a lot. I always remember other things 101 00:08:45.039 --> 00:08:52.440 in that room that didn't make sense as opposed to ghost encounters. You know, 102 00:08:54.039 --> 00:08:56.679 whether it be the summer time we had the big sash windows, they 103 00:08:56.720 --> 00:09:01.720 would be up, breeze coming in. I love the cool air coming in. 104 00:09:01.159 --> 00:09:09.720 But one stage little people being on my window silm, and that always 105 00:09:11.039 --> 00:09:18.200 wasn't to me like a ghost. So the little people were never like ghosts. 106 00:09:18.879 --> 00:09:22.840 You could tell the difference between the little people and a ghost. They 107 00:09:22.879 --> 00:09:26.679 were more animated. They had energy, They could interact with you. They 108 00:09:26.759 --> 00:09:31.039 knew that you were there, they knew that you two were watching each other, 109 00:09:31.279 --> 00:09:37.039 as opposed to a ghost. Was very slow process, a different form 110 00:09:37.080 --> 00:09:41.480 of energy, if that makes sense. It wouldn't be unusual to be found 111 00:09:41.840 --> 00:09:46.720 in the garden late at night by my parents or my brothers. I got 112 00:09:46.720 --> 00:09:50.559 told I used to sleep walk along. I could get myself totally dressed into 113 00:09:50.639 --> 00:09:54.080 my riding gear and go out in the garden so very conscious of what I 114 00:09:54.200 --> 00:09:56.200 was doing until you know, got led back in, and then the next 115 00:09:56.240 --> 00:10:01.120 morning I really did. I so I used to get found out in the 116 00:10:01.159 --> 00:10:05.360 garden. Then came what I always called the Chinese girl in the gazebo. 117 00:10:05.759 --> 00:10:09.840 That was a very unusual encounter. So looking back, even by me saying 118 00:10:09.879 --> 00:10:16.159 this, you nick looking back, it was always about the other people, 119 00:10:16.360 --> 00:10:20.679 as in, we're not talking humans now, we're talking other upright intelligent, 120 00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:28.799 interactive, into dimensional, high strangeness, people that were obviously intrigued by me. 121 00:10:28.120 --> 00:10:33.480 And I grew up in this little village where you could everyone knew everybody. 122 00:10:33.919 --> 00:10:37.159 I decided to walk home a different way. It should have straight up 123 00:10:37.200 --> 00:10:39.600 the road, but I decided to go a different way. One day. 124 00:10:41.039 --> 00:10:46.240 It led me to a place that would take me sort of like round about, 125 00:10:46.519 --> 00:10:52.240 sort of like a circle ish at home. And as I walked home 126 00:10:52.480 --> 00:10:54.440 in it would have taken me down a lane and then up another lane to 127 00:10:54.519 --> 00:10:58.919 go to the house. I came across this girl, and I always call 128 00:11:00.200 --> 00:11:05.799 Chinese. She had dark, long hair, she had fringe I think out 129 00:11:05.799 --> 00:11:09.240 on the stage, she called it bangs. She had very unusual eyes. 130 00:11:09.759 --> 00:11:13.559 She was my height. I don't remember if she was clothed, but she 131 00:11:13.639 --> 00:11:18.559 was definitely clothed, you know. But she was something very different about her 132 00:11:18.840 --> 00:11:22.759 as in our say, her appearance, just her energy wise, and she 133 00:11:22.799 --> 00:11:28.360 had something in her hand. I didn't communicate with her verbally. She didn't 134 00:11:28.519 --> 00:11:31.600 communicate with me verbally, So I would say this was the start of something 135 00:11:31.720 --> 00:11:37.720 very unusual, because she showed me something in her hand was flat, it 136 00:11:37.759 --> 00:11:41.000 was paper like, it was big, so like you know, like we 137 00:11:41.039 --> 00:11:43.039 had the old ten pound notes and five pound notes, of the old fifty 138 00:11:43.039 --> 00:11:46.519 pound notes and stuff like that was big. She showed me something. Now 139 00:11:46.639 --> 00:11:50.080 she's not gonna have fifteen pound note, but it was something, and she 140 00:11:50.159 --> 00:11:52.639 was showing it to me, and it was quite important that she was showing 141 00:11:52.679 --> 00:11:56.600 it to me. And then she sort of like put her hand out and 142 00:11:56.639 --> 00:12:00.279 then pointed sort of like over to the side and up a little bit as 143 00:12:00.279 --> 00:12:03.039 if to say, well, that's my house, that's where I live, 144 00:12:03.440 --> 00:12:07.279 and sort of like nodded my head and I walked home, didn't you know, 145 00:12:07.279 --> 00:12:09.399 I don't know, but you know, my mum was foreign. So 146 00:12:09.679 --> 00:12:15.720 if there was something my mum didn't understand, I'm sure visually someone would know. 147 00:12:16.000 --> 00:12:20.080 I don't understand it by a body language raising, raising your shoulders or 148 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:22.840 you know, pull in that face or something like that. But I remember 149 00:12:22.120 --> 00:12:26.840 we just I moved off and carried on walking and walked home. You know, 150 00:12:26.919 --> 00:12:30.879 part of me kind of may have thought that I probably got home a 151 00:12:30.919 --> 00:12:33.480 little bit late. Where if you've been, I don't know. But next 152 00:12:33.559 --> 00:12:39.080 day I was very excited to go back to the same place to see if 153 00:12:39.080 --> 00:12:43.840 I could see this little girl. And I went back to where she showed 154 00:12:43.879 --> 00:12:48.720 me where she was. Where she showed me her house was with her hand. 155 00:12:48.120 --> 00:12:52.399 It was up a little little hill to a culder sat the house wasn't 156 00:12:52.399 --> 00:12:56.639 there. There was no house there. They were sort of like newly building 157 00:12:56.879 --> 00:13:01.399 or something, and there's a few houses there, but not where she showed 158 00:13:01.399 --> 00:13:05.440 me where her house is. Where are you remember sort of seeing where her 159 00:13:05.440 --> 00:13:09.720 house was the night before? And the next thing that I saw as I 160 00:13:09.799 --> 00:13:11.480 walked up to the house, and can you know I can sort of like 161 00:13:11.559 --> 00:13:15.200 visually sit now, I was like, well, how in a minute, 162 00:13:15.679 --> 00:13:20.399 But what was where her house would have been? Was this field, and 163 00:13:20.480 --> 00:13:28.720 this field was this object was there in this field, not far away from 164 00:13:28.720 --> 00:13:33.639 me at all, probably eight ten meters away. I always call it the 165 00:13:33.679 --> 00:13:37.639 gazebo, the Chinese girl's gazebo, because it's a bit like it's quite cool 166 00:13:37.679 --> 00:13:41.600 everyone to have pagoda and you know, all lit up at night, maybe 167 00:13:41.639 --> 00:13:43.600 the chacuzi off to the side, blah blah blah. But it was like 168 00:13:43.720 --> 00:13:50.559 that. It was this structure that had lights around it, and it was 169 00:13:50.600 --> 00:13:58.120 off the ground and it was shimmering. I remember the shimmer from the lights 170 00:13:58.240 --> 00:14:03.440 onto the grow and it was off the ground. It wasn't, you know, 171 00:14:03.799 --> 00:14:07.399 sat on the ground. It was slightly off the ground. I don't 172 00:14:07.440 --> 00:14:09.480 know if I remember any noise, don't remember anything like that. And I 173 00:14:09.559 --> 00:14:15.840 remember just looking at this and then I don't The only other memory that I 174 00:14:15.879 --> 00:14:22.519 have of it, of that situation is grabbing hold of something solid cold, 175 00:14:24.039 --> 00:14:28.879 as if like let's say you're waking up from a surgical procedure, you sort 176 00:14:28.879 --> 00:14:31.639 of like get yourself up, hold on to the side of the table, 177 00:14:33.039 --> 00:14:35.879 you put your legs on the ground, and that that's the visual that I 178 00:14:37.240 --> 00:14:43.879 and physical memory feeling that I remember. So with having ghost experiences, and 179 00:14:43.879 --> 00:14:52.559 I've had many, like absolute extraordinary, full blown physical ghost experiences. Having 180 00:14:52.600 --> 00:14:56.759 the Chinese girl in the gazebo, the little people in the garden, and 181 00:14:56.799 --> 00:15:01.799 the little people at the windowsill. They didn't fit into the ghost scenario. 182 00:15:03.639 --> 00:15:07.240 So I kind of sort of always park those thoughts in my head and thought, 183 00:15:07.279 --> 00:15:11.759 Okay, I'm trying and suss that out as I get a bit older. 184 00:15:11.279 --> 00:15:15.440 In the same house that I was living at my dad had. My 185 00:15:15.519 --> 00:15:18.360 dad was a potter and a songwriter. We had a big kilm room pottery 186 00:15:18.360 --> 00:15:22.559 at the top opposite you know as we walked out the back door. We 187 00:15:22.639 --> 00:15:26.759 had kiln rooms. We had barns at the bottom of the garden. We 188 00:15:26.759 --> 00:15:28.080 had a lotment at the bottom of the garden. There was an old pump 189 00:15:28.120 --> 00:15:33.000 well. I don't know when it first happened. I probably was about seven 190 00:15:33.080 --> 00:15:39.840 and eight again nine, Maybe I would know that there would be a person 191 00:15:39.879 --> 00:15:41.360 at the bottom of the garden. I call him the man at the bottom 192 00:15:41.360 --> 00:15:46.039 of the garden, dressed all in black. It was sort of like telepathic. 193 00:15:46.639 --> 00:15:48.440 Wherever I was in the house or whatever, I would go to the 194 00:15:48.519 --> 00:15:52.519 kitchen window, pass the arga through to the kitchen window, this little kitchen 195 00:15:52.519 --> 00:15:56.440 window that then would look down. I think we had about an ak ach 196 00:15:56.480 --> 00:16:00.840 and a half of garden and he would be there. He'd be by the 197 00:16:00.879 --> 00:16:04.159 pump well that we had, and he would be dressed all in black, 198 00:16:04.639 --> 00:16:11.799 an old fisherman where you have the plastic gloss. It was matching top bottom. 199 00:16:12.240 --> 00:16:17.720 Obviously he couldn't see his feet. He was just dressed all in black. 200 00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:21.600 And I suppose because my dad had boats and you know, and I 201 00:16:21.759 --> 00:16:25.440 could picture there like the old waders that used to have. It was very 202 00:16:25.559 --> 00:16:29.799 much like that, and he was like military style. He would be right 203 00:16:30.159 --> 00:16:33.879 at the bottom of the garden, just hands down to his side, just 204 00:16:33.919 --> 00:16:37.759 staring up. Many times because I would say, because of the teleprosy point 205 00:16:37.759 --> 00:16:41.039 of view, it had to be something high strangeness, and it had to 206 00:16:41.080 --> 00:16:45.639 be something of the paranormal, because it was a knowing that he would be 207 00:16:45.679 --> 00:16:48.879 there. And the knowing then would let's say, if my brothers were in 208 00:16:48.919 --> 00:16:52.200 the house, my cousin was in the house. My brother's best friend, 209 00:16:52.240 --> 00:16:56.480 Andy remembers it vividly. You know, he's here, he's back, and 210 00:16:56.519 --> 00:17:00.679 they would leg it down the garden to try to because you know, it's 211 00:17:00.679 --> 00:17:03.599 a bit like that scenario of is someone going to steal my sister who's on 212 00:17:03.599 --> 00:17:07.200 our ground. They would run after it and he would just totally disappear. 213 00:17:07.559 --> 00:17:14.839 I had witnessed him disappear by gliding, and it would be a backward emotion 214 00:17:15.559 --> 00:17:18.640 like a movie Dolly, where you'd put the cameras on and they'd be on 215 00:17:19.000 --> 00:17:22.880 rails. He would be there and then all of a sudden you would just 216 00:17:22.960 --> 00:17:27.599 see him glide off back to the left where the barn was. And when 217 00:17:27.640 --> 00:17:33.880 I worked with Bud Hopkins, we looked into the man at the bottom of 218 00:17:33.920 --> 00:17:37.799 the garden. He was definitely a being, and there's no two ways about 219 00:17:37.799 --> 00:17:44.279 it. At that time I was having a lot of activity with other beings. 220 00:17:44.440 --> 00:17:48.440 They were to take me. I remember some of this without the aid 221 00:17:48.480 --> 00:17:52.079 of hypnosis, and then obviously with Bud a lot more came out. But 222 00:17:52.160 --> 00:17:56.599 I remember having beings working on me in my garden. I then, as 223 00:17:56.599 --> 00:18:02.359 I grew older, I then a bit like your self, Nick, wanted 224 00:18:02.400 --> 00:18:07.720 to be around other people that were having paranormal experiences. I used to start 225 00:18:07.759 --> 00:18:12.920 going to sort of like circle groups, psychic circles to open myself up more 226 00:18:14.000 --> 00:18:18.440 to understand why it was happening to me to see if there's various exercises that 227 00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:25.039 I could do or also sometimes learn to stop some of the things that were 228 00:18:25.079 --> 00:18:26.680 happening. You know, I could be in control of it and say no. 229 00:18:27.160 --> 00:18:30.920 So I was working with other mediums to you know, try and understand 230 00:18:32.000 --> 00:18:37.559 that. Looking back, brilliant glad I did. But it's sort of there 231 00:18:37.640 --> 00:18:41.559 is a difference between ghosts and there is a difference between beings, but it 232 00:18:41.640 --> 00:18:45.160 is all interlinked. You can't have one with the out the other. It's 233 00:18:45.279 --> 00:18:52.079 all a learning tool and it's all an energetic learning tool to sort of fine 234 00:18:52.200 --> 00:18:59.319 tune you. So growing up seventeen eighteen nineteen in London, moved up to 235 00:18:59.400 --> 00:19:03.240 London, was with my partner going to development circles with his mum. She 236 00:19:03.359 --> 00:19:11.039 loved all the paranormal stuff. I had had an encounter with my ex a 237 00:19:11.160 --> 00:19:15.240 UFO encounter and I need to stay. Everyone thinks you've got to go outside 238 00:19:15.240 --> 00:19:18.599 to see a UFO. Nope. We had had this meal out and we 239 00:19:18.920 --> 00:19:22.680 just got back. We started to lie down on the bed, just like 240 00:19:22.759 --> 00:19:27.960 comatos through like eating a big steak meal. We were lying down on the 241 00:19:27.960 --> 00:19:32.599 top of the covers just to head up, looking at the ceiling, full 242 00:19:32.680 --> 00:19:37.759 bellies, and then all of a sudden, this object, solid object black 243 00:19:37.240 --> 00:19:42.240 with white lights all intricately in it lit up. Little lights started to come 244 00:19:42.279 --> 00:19:45.720 from where I suppose, you know, our knees were over the end of 245 00:19:45.759 --> 00:19:49.519 the bed started to float above us, so it was above us on the 246 00:19:49.599 --> 00:19:56.160 ceiling. So we watched it float over us, over our stomachs, over 247 00:19:56.240 --> 00:20:03.279 our heads, and then into the back wall and then out of the wall. 248 00:20:03.400 --> 00:20:07.640 So that was my encounter with Billy, and thinking about it now, 249 00:20:07.839 --> 00:20:12.599 just as I say it, the connection there between me and Billy to maybe 250 00:20:12.640 --> 00:20:18.240 have another encounter, which obviously is the encounter that I'll talk about shortly in 251 00:20:18.319 --> 00:20:25.200 Los Angeles. So I don't remember any other UFO encounters at that stage. 252 00:20:25.240 --> 00:20:30.319 But a couple of years later I go over to Los Angeles to work, 253 00:20:30.359 --> 00:20:33.519 and some of my friends from my hometown in Exmouth at the time had gone 254 00:20:33.599 --> 00:20:37.880 over there to live, and I thought, oh great, I'll go and 255 00:20:37.960 --> 00:20:41.119 visit them and things, in which I did, and loved America so much. 256 00:20:41.160 --> 00:20:45.000 I ended up staying there for a bit. But I you know, 257 00:20:45.000 --> 00:20:47.680 people say you've got to be careful what you wish. For years and years 258 00:20:47.759 --> 00:20:52.559 later, I was still having paranormal activity, wasn't having any UFO activity at 259 00:20:52.559 --> 00:21:00.920 the time, but I had a call from my mum and I remember sort 260 00:21:00.920 --> 00:21:03.119 of like Christmas birthday time, and Mum said to me, you know, 261 00:21:03.200 --> 00:21:07.480 someone's going to give you a call, in which the next call that I 262 00:21:07.519 --> 00:21:11.119 had was Billy and he said to me, so this was in ninety two, 263 00:21:11.559 --> 00:21:15.240 So my birthday in December ninety two, he said he wants to come 264 00:21:15.279 --> 00:21:18.920 over and visit. I'm like, fantastic, Yeah, that'd be lovely come 265 00:21:18.960 --> 00:21:23.079 over and visit. So he didn't come over till maybe January at the time, 266 00:21:23.359 --> 00:21:29.839 ninety three now, and I was kind of like nervous because we had 267 00:21:29.839 --> 00:21:33.720 been like, you know, sweethearts. Years had gone by for him, 268 00:21:33.839 --> 00:21:36.799 years have gone by for me. I thought of to myself, well, 269 00:21:36.839 --> 00:21:38.440 you've got to kind of be careful what you wish for. And I didn't 270 00:21:38.480 --> 00:21:44.480 know what was going to happen. So he came over. He was living 271 00:21:44.519 --> 00:21:48.200 with me in the valley in Los Angeles, in the Woodland Hills. His 272 00:21:48.559 --> 00:21:52.000 friend from England, Kelly, wanted to come over and visit. She wanted 273 00:21:52.039 --> 00:21:56.799 to come over and work find job opportunity. I said, look, sure, 274 00:21:56.000 --> 00:22:00.720 you know we shouldn't get an apartment in the same apartment plexus US. 275 00:22:00.720 --> 00:22:03.759 There's quite a few going because it was called Oakward Apartments at the time. 276 00:22:03.920 --> 00:22:07.279 Little did I know there's lots of famous people that used to live there, 277 00:22:07.480 --> 00:22:10.839 you know, the backpack people. It was pretty much the cool place to 278 00:22:10.880 --> 00:22:12.920 sort of like be living. And you know, as they were all starting 279 00:22:14.000 --> 00:22:15.599 up. You know, it's not like cost loads of money to live there 280 00:22:15.680 --> 00:22:18.279 or anything like that, but it was, you know, the apartments were 281 00:22:18.279 --> 00:22:22.599 all done up inside and everything. So anyway, she'd come over, Kelly'd 282 00:22:22.599 --> 00:22:25.200 come over to stay, and he had an interview on a Deo Drive. 283 00:22:25.359 --> 00:22:27.440 And to me, that isn't a regular day in Los Angeles because I never 284 00:22:27.480 --> 00:22:30.759 went to Adeo Drive, never even bought anything in Adeo Drive, you know 285 00:22:30.920 --> 00:22:34.640 out of the valley or you know up Melrose Avenue that's where I shopped, 286 00:22:34.759 --> 00:22:38.440 or the Beverly Center. So I had taken her for a job interview on 287 00:22:38.480 --> 00:22:42.960 a day drive, parked the car in the complex where it was, We 288 00:22:44.839 --> 00:22:48.920 got into the car. I remember driving down the multi story car park. 289 00:22:48.039 --> 00:22:51.559 We drove back out to get onto the one on one, four or five 290 00:22:51.640 --> 00:22:55.799 freeway to go back to the valley. We chatted about our job interview and 291 00:22:55.960 --> 00:22:59.319 things, and then I had to go to an area called Brentwood. Now 292 00:22:59.519 --> 00:23:03.359 I had been to Brentwood at the time, and I gone there. There 293 00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:07.599 was an old theater there because my friends were in like the movie business. 294 00:23:07.880 --> 00:23:11.599 So I had been to Brentwood, but I don't know the area, you 295 00:23:11.680 --> 00:23:15.240 know, I just would have gone to that movie theater there at that time. 296 00:23:15.440 --> 00:23:18.319 So as we were approaching the sort of to get off the off ramp 297 00:23:18.559 --> 00:23:23.400 the freeway, I'm feeling really really nervous. I'm feeling really really apprehensive. 298 00:23:23.559 --> 00:23:29.319 Something's absolutely building in my stomach. It's not the fact that I have to 299 00:23:29.359 --> 00:23:32.480 go to this girl's house and I have to get home and I'm in a 300 00:23:32.559 --> 00:23:36.319 rush or anything like that. It's none of that. There's something very very 301 00:23:36.359 --> 00:23:40.559 different that is happening to me. I have no clue what it is or 302 00:23:40.559 --> 00:23:42.400 no control over it. It's getting stronger and stronger. So as I get 303 00:23:42.400 --> 00:23:47.680 off the freeway, my hands are so glued to the steering wall they will 304 00:23:47.680 --> 00:23:52.119 glued to the steering wall. Build up at butterflies anxiety. Something's happening, 305 00:23:52.319 --> 00:23:56.480 something's changing, and I don't know what it is, And as I come 306 00:23:56.519 --> 00:24:03.519 off the off ramp, I'm then at a point where the traffic lights were 307 00:24:03.559 --> 00:24:07.799 in front of me. Holiday In is to the left. Ucla College is 308 00:24:07.960 --> 00:24:11.880 a little bit to the right, and I'm at a traffic light. There 309 00:24:11.920 --> 00:24:14.279 is a car in front of me, and I'm not sure if there's a 310 00:24:14.279 --> 00:24:17.119 car in front of that, but my windows are around down because it's been 311 00:24:17.160 --> 00:24:19.319 a nice day and it's about ten to six at night. I'm at a 312 00:24:19.440 --> 00:24:23.359 stop light, so car in front of me, and all of a sudden, 313 00:24:23.640 --> 00:24:30.240 I remember seeing something very quick, very silver, to the left of 314 00:24:30.240 --> 00:24:34.039 me, very quickly, and I remember looking something silver. I as soon 315 00:24:34.119 --> 00:24:42.400 as that had happened, Now I've got this forty five fifty foot craft that's 316 00:24:42.640 --> 00:24:47.240 right on top of the trunk of the car in front of me. Now 317 00:24:47.359 --> 00:24:51.759 I didn't see it leap from the left to my driver's side, sort of 318 00:24:51.839 --> 00:24:56.440 like little little area of the door window to bing right in front of me. 319 00:24:56.799 --> 00:25:03.240 But there it was, and it was stationary at this point of me 320 00:25:03.680 --> 00:25:07.839 having my first look at it, and it is above the trunk of the 321 00:25:07.880 --> 00:25:11.920 car in front, so close I want to touch it. I mean, 322 00:25:11.920 --> 00:25:15.279 God, if i'd opened the car got out, walked over to the car 323 00:25:15.400 --> 00:25:18.319 in front of me, got on the trunk, got on the roof. 324 00:25:18.759 --> 00:25:22.640 It would have been a handspan away from it. It was just that low, 325 00:25:22.920 --> 00:25:30.319 and so I now can't hear anything. Everything's gone silent. Now you've 326 00:25:30.319 --> 00:25:33.480 got to remember, I've still got my hands on my wheel. I'm now 327 00:25:33.519 --> 00:25:37.200 looking at this object, and it's so quiet out there. I can't hear 328 00:25:37.359 --> 00:25:44.079 anything. This thing of that size would have made a noise. It's also 329 00:25:44.240 --> 00:25:49.240 got no fulage coming from it, no exhaust. It's also got no wings, 330 00:25:49.559 --> 00:25:56.559 and it has this amazing red orange power source underneath it. It is 331 00:25:56.720 --> 00:26:03.000 just like you're looking into an ember of a fire. I'm looking at it 332 00:26:03.240 --> 00:26:07.680 and it isn't until that point, with my hands gripped to the steering wheel, 333 00:26:07.759 --> 00:26:10.079 just you couldn't prize them off, Nick. I mean, I'm just 334 00:26:10.200 --> 00:26:11.759 like you could be the world's strongest man. You wouldn't take me hands off 335 00:26:11.799 --> 00:26:17.960 the steering wheel because my nose is pretty much to the windscreen and I'm looking 336 00:26:18.200 --> 00:26:22.599 underneath this craft. I then swear. So I've got Kelly next to me, 337 00:26:22.039 --> 00:26:27.119 and I then go, what the F is that she is? Then, 338 00:26:27.200 --> 00:26:30.000 because back then we did I don't mean we had mobile phones, right, 339 00:26:30.240 --> 00:26:33.799 I think we were on pages. So it's not like she sat in 340 00:26:33.839 --> 00:26:37.039 the car like they do now with on your phone or anything like and not 341 00:26:37.079 --> 00:26:40.640 looking up whatever it was. I swaw. She's now looking at it, 342 00:26:40.759 --> 00:26:48.000 and now she's staring at this thing, this object now craft moving unusual. 343 00:26:48.440 --> 00:26:53.839 It was just gliding slowly. Now it's gliding slowly over would have gone over 344 00:26:53.880 --> 00:26:57.279 the roof of that car, then it would have gone over to the right. 345 00:26:57.759 --> 00:27:03.079 Did it go a little bit? It must have done, because as 346 00:27:03.079 --> 00:27:07.559 it's moving over to the right, the traffic lights go back on again. 347 00:27:07.680 --> 00:27:11.920 So whether this craft stop the lights as we know that that happens. I 348 00:27:11.039 --> 00:27:17.319 then put my foot in the gas again to move, still being shaken. 349 00:27:17.759 --> 00:27:19.400 I'm not speaking to her. I don't know if she's looking at it, 350 00:27:19.400 --> 00:27:22.759 because I'm just like one. You've got to know that you've got to drive 351 00:27:22.799 --> 00:27:26.079 a car, and you've one you've got to go somewhere, and then you've 352 00:27:26.119 --> 00:27:30.160 got this object that you're trying to go round in your head like a cog. 353 00:27:30.480 --> 00:27:32.480 Where have I seen something like this before? Hang on, and it's 354 00:27:32.480 --> 00:27:33.279 got no wings, it's got no few diduts's gone this? You know? 355 00:27:33.279 --> 00:27:37.160 And you're trying to spin every idea and every whatever it could be in your 356 00:27:37.200 --> 00:27:40.759 head. My foot goes on the gas because the car in front of me 357 00:27:40.839 --> 00:27:44.519 is moving. I am told in my head that I can't go right. 358 00:27:45.039 --> 00:27:48.880 I cannot go right, and I'll come to that in a minute. I 359 00:27:48.039 --> 00:27:52.920 then go to the left to go over the bridge that takes you directly over 360 00:27:53.000 --> 00:27:56.759 the freeway right, so you've got the freeway underneath you, and then you've 361 00:27:56.759 --> 00:27:59.480 got the holiday in which as you're going over the bridge would be on the 362 00:27:59.559 --> 00:28:03.400 right hand side, big round holiday in. I remember going over, so 363 00:28:03.440 --> 00:28:07.480 it's going over towards UCLA College, just going by the trees. I remember 364 00:28:07.839 --> 00:28:12.039 turning the car to go left to go over the bridge. I remember looking 365 00:28:12.559 --> 00:28:18.119 in the back window of the car, and I remember what I'll always say 366 00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:19.720 is the back ass of it going through the tops of the trees. Can't 367 00:28:19.720 --> 00:28:25.119 say it any more simpler than that, Literally, the ends of the craft 368 00:28:26.200 --> 00:28:30.000 going through the tops of the trees. It was phenomenal. And I remember 369 00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:32.920 it so that was low right, the trees weren't high up. They were 370 00:28:32.920 --> 00:28:36.319 green at the time. And I then remember having to turn my head to 371 00:28:36.400 --> 00:28:38.960 drive over the bridge because I got car in front of me, told that 372 00:28:40.039 --> 00:28:41.880 I can't make a right and I got to get up high. It was 373 00:28:42.079 --> 00:28:47.599 very matter of fact, very broadly spoken to me. Got to get up 374 00:28:47.680 --> 00:28:48.920 high, and you've got to go. You can't go right now. I 375 00:28:48.960 --> 00:28:52.799 always say this could be my subconscious It could be a subconscious thing. So 376 00:28:53.079 --> 00:28:57.160 I just knew that I could go up and drive up behind the Holiday Inn, 377 00:28:57.400 --> 00:29:02.160 up the side road there and go up to the top of the holiday 378 00:29:02.200 --> 00:29:04.519 In and then have a great vantage point to look out. Now. I 379 00:29:04.799 --> 00:29:08.720 don't know the holiday In at all. I've never been there. I've never 380 00:29:08.759 --> 00:29:12.160 been up the top of that road. I drove like literally not even a 381 00:29:12.160 --> 00:29:15.200 block where it was. As soon as you got off the off the freeway, 382 00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:18.720 I drove up a lane. So I drove up to the top. 383 00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:22.440 Me and her, not talking, still suckled the car around because it was 384 00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:25.440 a little culder sack on this little lay by, and I said to her, 385 00:29:25.480 --> 00:29:26.640 we're both going to get out at the same time, point the same 386 00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:30.559 direction where it went. She got out her side, which was on the 387 00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:33.000 right hand side. I got out my side, which was on the left 388 00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:34.160 hand side, and I said, right, we're both going to point in 389 00:29:34.200 --> 00:29:37.240 the same direction. She pointed with her left hand. I pointed my left 390 00:29:37.240 --> 00:29:41.319 hand, and we both pointed in the same direction, which would have been 391 00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:45.160 now our hands would have been pretty much hovering over the holiday in point in 392 00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:48.440 the direction of UCLA and wow, well, let me tell you, at 393 00:29:48.440 --> 00:29:53.119 that point the reality of something had happened. Now from the vantage point of 394 00:29:53.119 --> 00:29:56.160 being up high, could we see it. No. I couldn't see anything 395 00:29:56.440 --> 00:30:03.599 that would resemble something that vast size going anywhere. Couldn't see anything at all. 396 00:30:03.880 --> 00:30:07.599 I felt sick. My eyes were streaming. I was shaking. I 397 00:30:07.640 --> 00:30:12.039 remember we got back in the car down the hill, made a right probably, 398 00:30:12.119 --> 00:30:15.839 I don't know how many blocks away it was. It wasn't far. 399 00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:18.720 It was minutes away to this girl's house that I had to go to on 400 00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:25.440 the corner. I drove into her apartment complex and then got out of the 401 00:30:25.519 --> 00:30:29.119 car, not looking around. Didn't want to look at anything. My eyes, 402 00:30:29.359 --> 00:30:33.359 i can say, felt like they'd been stretched wide open. I didn't 403 00:30:33.400 --> 00:30:36.960 want to look at anything. I looked at the ground. I just didn't 404 00:30:36.960 --> 00:30:40.039 want to look around anything. I remember holding on to the side of the 405 00:30:40.039 --> 00:30:42.599 car. I felt drunk. I'd never drank alcohol, couldn't think, didn't 406 00:30:42.599 --> 00:30:47.240 want to think. I remember ringing the doorbell. She came out. I 407 00:30:47.319 --> 00:30:52.319 said to her, listen, something really as strange has just happened to me. 408 00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:55.440 I need to get back, I need to go. I got back 409 00:30:55.440 --> 00:30:59.160 into the car, went to drive out of her drive, because you drove 410 00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:02.200 in the other drive in one way and drive out the other way. And 411 00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:07.160 there in front of me was this amazing black gangster car, sort of like 412 00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:11.839 a really old black fifties car. Now, Hollywood Los Angeles has a lot 413 00:31:11.839 --> 00:31:15.200 of picture vehicles, ones that go into you know, all the TV shows 414 00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:18.960 in the film, so it wouldn't be unusual to see that actually stunning calf 415 00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:22.279 driving around you know, La, all around around that way. But this 416 00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:29.000 car was very low profile, black tinted. It was there and I had 417 00:31:29.200 --> 00:31:34.799 a I suppose body shock. Again as I was told, it's been placed 418 00:31:34.839 --> 00:31:41.240 here to remember. So again very verbally coming from somewhere, very matter of 419 00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:45.519 fact, you can't go right, You've got to get up high, and 420 00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:48.920 this has been put here for you to remember. So now I've got this 421 00:31:49.000 --> 00:31:52.839 black car right in front of me. It's there for a while, and 422 00:31:52.920 --> 00:31:55.000 it makes me, you know, for a few minutes, it makes me 423 00:31:55.039 --> 00:31:59.640 feel really uneasy and why is that there? So it's been placed for me 424 00:31:59.759 --> 00:32:04.240 here, remember it. Then went back into the traffic, still not feeling 425 00:32:04.240 --> 00:32:07.920 myself, get back into the traffic within like I said, let's just call 426 00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:09.920 it like five blocks way back from the freeway. I then start to go 427 00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:14.559 off the off ramp to go down the freeway. And because my windows are 428 00:32:14.559 --> 00:32:16.960 wound down, I can hear this roaring noise. Me and Kelly not talking 429 00:32:17.160 --> 00:32:22.680 at all. There's no communication between us whatsoever. Looking up and seeing a 430 00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:28.359 helicopter are black, very low, because I can see the rivets on this 431 00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:34.480 helicopter unmarked, four or five military helicopters. So as I was going on 432 00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:37.519 the off ramp of going back onto the freeway, as the crow flies, 433 00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:42.079 it's heading in that direction of UCLA. But within ten minutes, right, 434 00:32:42.240 --> 00:32:45.720 well, you've got military helicopters going straight over to where this is. Still 435 00:32:45.720 --> 00:32:50.319 not talking to her on the way home. Your brain's trying to put anything 436 00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:54.000 into context. The thing that baffled me the most was the size of it, 437 00:32:55.000 --> 00:33:00.880 no wings, the heaviness of it, the power whatever alway was powering 438 00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:05.119 it, that red orange underneath. Yeah, and the closeness of it. 439 00:33:05.359 --> 00:33:09.039 So we drive back back to my apartment, put my stuff down, Billies 440 00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:13.240 at the flat. Billies in my apartment who had had the experience with the 441 00:33:13.319 --> 00:33:15.359 craft going above bed. It isn't unusual when you hear it, and you 442 00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:17.960 hear it time and time again, you want to say, you want to 443 00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:22.359 say something. I couldn't say it a bit like the girl let me go 444 00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:27.160 to her house. I couldn't say it. Physically, mentally emotionally wrecked at 445 00:33:27.160 --> 00:33:30.279 that point. Other things do I remember from that night? First of all, 446 00:33:30.279 --> 00:33:34.119 her walking into the bathroom, her looking at a reflection of me, 447 00:33:34.279 --> 00:33:37.759 I look at reflection of her. And I know getting into bed that night 448 00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:42.039 didn't feel right at all. You know, I didn't want to talk, 449 00:33:42.200 --> 00:33:45.039 I didn't want to do anything. I didn't want you know, no TV 450 00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:46.799 or nothing. I just needed to get into, you know, just to 451 00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:52.200 my own space. I wish I could remember more of that, and let's 452 00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:54.880 say, physical evidence or anything. Physical evidence. I did definitely go through 453 00:33:55.000 --> 00:34:00.440 with the emotion of eyes burning, the interaction with it my body. Now, 454 00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:06.839 Nick, I never had a conversation with Kelly about it. I never 455 00:34:06.920 --> 00:34:10.920 did, and I suppose that's possibly why I always went public, because how 456 00:34:10.960 --> 00:34:15.199 amazing would it be for that person to come forward, validate things and to 457 00:34:16.119 --> 00:34:22.800 share that experience with again. I well, I went public my own extraordinary 458 00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:27.119 encounter, and I wanted her maybe one day. Well she hasn't yet, 459 00:34:27.159 --> 00:34:30.920 but now everybody's listening to all these things, she might go, oh my 460 00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:32.719 god, that's her. I had my encounter with that. That would be 461 00:34:32.840 --> 00:34:37.800 just like amazing. But we know that it can affect everybody psychologically in a 462 00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:44.239 different way. I suppose I'm a little bit more proactive and I'd had years 463 00:34:44.440 --> 00:34:50.039 of UFO experiences. Maybe she hadn't. I don't know because I never communicate 464 00:34:50.039 --> 00:34:52.159 with her. So a couple of days later, she moved out of the 465 00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:55.239 apartments. That's all I know. A couple of days later, I told 466 00:34:55.320 --> 00:34:58.800 Billy, Billy, I got to go. I just got to get out 467 00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:00.119 of here. You know, I've you go to stay with my friend. 468 00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:04.719 I'm going to go to Santa Cruz for a couple of weeks, keep my 469 00:35:04.760 --> 00:35:08.599 apartment on and you know, just need some headspace, in which I did. 470 00:35:16.559 --> 00:35:22.440 Are you intrigued by paranormal talk radio? You love the new paranormal radio 471 00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:28.440 app from talkstream Live. You'll find a great selection of talk shows covering UFOs, 472 00:35:28.760 --> 00:35:32.719 ghosts, strange phenomena, and much more. Download the Paranormal Radio app 473 00:35:32.760 --> 00:35:37.559 now and start listening to the very best in paranormal talk entertainment, including the 474 00:35:37.599 --> 00:35:43.800 network you're listening to right now. The Paranormal Radio app free in Google Play 475 00:35:44.000 --> 00:35:54.760 and the iOS app Store. I then go and stay in Santa Cruz for 476 00:35:54.960 --> 00:36:00.239 possibly a week week and I then go with a friend and then the being 477 00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:06.679 a trailer backed from Santa Cruz all the way to to Pangy Canyon. Now 478 00:36:06.760 --> 00:36:10.480 to Panga Canyon in ninety three. Little did I know it was a UFO 479 00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:15.840 hotspot. So I'm sort of like now being plumped into the epicenter of it 480 00:36:15.840 --> 00:36:21.559 all and having some very unusual high strangeness into Panga Canyon. I remember having 481 00:36:21.599 --> 00:36:29.239 some unusual encounters into Panga Canyon that don't fit into the normal. There was 482 00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:31.760 one thing that was very personal to me that involved I had to go to 483 00:36:31.800 --> 00:36:37.920 the doctors for that involved something that was very unusual, and I still have 484 00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:40.559 my medical records for that. There was an encounter that I had into Panga 485 00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:45.280 Canyon. So let's just say maybe two let's give it two weeks, three 486 00:36:45.320 --> 00:36:49.199 weeks, you know, after my encounter on the freeway, I'm a friend's 487 00:36:49.199 --> 00:36:52.440 house into Panga and I'm looking through their books. I'm a huge book collector 488 00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:57.960 looking through their books, and they have a book called Bringers of the Dawn, 489 00:36:58.079 --> 00:37:00.039 Teaching from the Playetes. And I look at that. I went, 490 00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:02.360 oh, my god, I know that. I know that, I know. 491 00:37:02.440 --> 00:37:05.440 Why do I know that word? Why do I know those words? 492 00:37:05.480 --> 00:37:08.480 Picking it up, flicking through. My friends are playing music, live music, 493 00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:14.880 sort of like strumming, singing, and I'm heading my books, listening 494 00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:20.239 and then all of a sudden, like having a huge psychic experience placed in 495 00:37:20.280 --> 00:37:23.119 front of my in my mind's eye. But like let's say, if I 496 00:37:23.159 --> 00:37:25.639 was looking at you, Unich, I can't see you. I've just got 497 00:37:25.639 --> 00:37:30.039 a TV monitor in front of me. So you've now turned into a TV 498 00:37:30.159 --> 00:37:35.079 monitor. I'm being shown frequencies, and those frequencies, I am hearing these 499 00:37:35.360 --> 00:37:42.840 tones, these high pitched tones, and with those tones, those frequencies that 500 00:37:42.920 --> 00:37:47.039 I'm shown on this monitor are going up down, fat thin. I was 501 00:37:47.079 --> 00:37:52.400 shown this in my head and I was having these tones that go with it. 502 00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:57.599 Now I know, even though I say to you, I couldn't hear 503 00:37:57.639 --> 00:38:01.400 their object on the freeway. Some think must have gone on because as soon 504 00:38:01.440 --> 00:38:06.639 as I heard those tones, I put them back to where I was on 505 00:38:06.679 --> 00:38:13.400 the freeway in Brentwood. I knew that that craft was outside. I said 506 00:38:13.400 --> 00:38:15.079 to the guys, I said, can you not hear that? And they 507 00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:20.719 just like looked at me. It's like no. But Seth said to me, 508 00:38:21.679 --> 00:38:23.880 I don't know if I remember how well. I don't remember if he'd 509 00:38:23.880 --> 00:38:27.719 had your phone characters. But for him to have teachings of the Ladies Bringers 510 00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:30.400 to the Dawn on his bookshelf, you know he must have had walked on 511 00:38:30.440 --> 00:38:34.280 this journey with a bit of insight. He said, you know what, 512 00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:38.119 you can hear go outside, And I'm like, Christ, this has only 513 00:38:38.119 --> 00:38:42.559 happened two three weeks ago. I don't know if I want to. It 514 00:38:42.599 --> 00:38:45.280 was a huge pulling. It's like I was being pulled to go out, 515 00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:50.880 and I remember getting up going so far to where the door was, and 516 00:38:50.920 --> 00:38:54.119 he had a stable door at the time. I just knew if I stepped 517 00:38:54.159 --> 00:38:59.639 outside, I'm going to be under a craft again. I didn't. I 518 00:38:59.760 --> 00:39:02.639 re let's sort of go back, if we go back to the freeway, 519 00:39:04.199 --> 00:39:09.840 I spoke about a bit about Bud Hopkins. I went in well ninety seven, 520 00:39:09.880 --> 00:39:15.840 I worked with Dolorus Cannon and I had hypnosis with Dolores Cannon. I 521 00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:21.440 spent a couple of days with Dolores, wonderful lady, huge following still which 522 00:39:21.480 --> 00:39:25.280 is amazing, and publishing company and what her daughter's doing, and under the 523 00:39:25.360 --> 00:39:31.480 hypnosis, we went back to my childhood and we did go back to part 524 00:39:31.519 --> 00:39:37.000 of the freeway encounters, but she did mainly of the older experiences I had 525 00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:39.440 and I was being blocked big time because I was when I came back from 526 00:39:39.519 --> 00:39:43.639 America in ninety three. The latter part of ninety three, I was just 527 00:39:43.800 --> 00:39:49.239 suffering from headaches like cluster headaches and also suffering from hair loss. So I 528 00:39:49.320 --> 00:39:52.360 recall going to my doctor and I was very honest with him. I said, 529 00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:57.599 look, I've had a massive UFO encounter. I was underneath a craft 530 00:39:57.840 --> 00:40:01.519 and he treated me medical records. He's treated me for radiation, you know. 531 00:40:01.679 --> 00:40:07.119 And I then went with Nick Pope in I can't remember it's ninety seven, 532 00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:10.880 ninety eight, I think it was ninety eight, went to work with 533 00:40:10.920 --> 00:40:15.440 Bud Hopkins in New York. We were there for five days. I think 534 00:40:15.440 --> 00:40:20.880 I did three or four days of hypnosis with Bud. Alongside us was Peter 535 00:40:21.280 --> 00:40:24.840 Robins. Peter Robbins used to help out Intruders Foundation do a lot of research 536 00:40:24.960 --> 00:40:29.840 for Bud. Still, you know, so still being great friends to this 537 00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:37.000 very day. He's absolutely a legend in euthology and knowledge. We did hypnosis 538 00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:40.519 and we went back to the past stuff. We went back to the freeway. 539 00:40:40.599 --> 00:40:45.760 So the freeway under the hypnosis, I'm at the steering wheel. I 540 00:40:45.239 --> 00:40:50.280 got the hands on the steering wheel, gripped very very tightly, and the 541 00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:57.159 feeling in my body of just the tingle, the fuzz, the energy, 542 00:40:57.440 --> 00:41:02.199 the static, whatever was going on, and the grip onto the steering wheel. 543 00:41:02.639 --> 00:41:07.039 That's where it blacks out. So what happened under the hypnosis, if 544 00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:09.760 you remember, I'm ripping the steel, I'm looking up at this. At 545 00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:16.800 that point it goes black. I am then going through my body fragmented like 546 00:41:17.159 --> 00:41:24.119 atoms. Every part of my body is then being sucked through the steering wheel, 547 00:41:24.760 --> 00:41:30.320 through the central component dash of my dash in front of me, behind 548 00:41:30.320 --> 00:41:36.199 my wheel. I'm going through every single part of that bit by bit, 549 00:41:36.440 --> 00:41:40.360 molecule by molecule, going through the engine, being taken through that engine. 550 00:41:40.519 --> 00:41:45.920 My body's feeling going through that engine. It's in pieces, going through that 551 00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:52.079 engine and then being going up. I'm then placed again in a field and 552 00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:55.960 I have beings with me. I have light beings with me, and those 553 00:41:57.119 --> 00:42:04.719 light beings are pink iridesse and light beings human formed eyes, had hair, 554 00:42:05.320 --> 00:42:09.280 hair that was like a transplant, white long, you know, past the 555 00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:15.679 shoulders in parts as a transplant. I could seeing there veins, pink blue 556 00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:20.920 veins like we have, just the energy of them, and the energy had 557 00:42:20.960 --> 00:42:24.559 a ring around it, and they had it was one. I was now 558 00:42:24.559 --> 00:42:29.599 in one big ring with them. I felt that I knew these beings, 559 00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:34.119 and I've seen these beings before. Now these beings weren't the beings that I 560 00:42:34.199 --> 00:42:37.159 saw when I was well. They were it was the same vibration, So 561 00:42:37.239 --> 00:42:42.679 I felt that I knew them. I felt that I knew these beings and 562 00:42:43.119 --> 00:42:46.039 one of them had a baby. Now, Nick Pope sat in on the 563 00:42:46.119 --> 00:42:50.719 hypnosis sessions, took lots and lots of notes. It was all recorded, 564 00:42:50.920 --> 00:42:53.760 got all of the cordings and stuff, and very traumatic. Don't get me 565 00:42:53.800 --> 00:43:01.320 wrong, anyone that's having to relive something that there are so many pieces missing 566 00:43:01.679 --> 00:43:05.880 and then boom, You'll put a picture in front of your head and you 567 00:43:06.039 --> 00:43:09.280 know that it resonates with is a shocker? You fight it, you think 568 00:43:09.400 --> 00:43:14.320 is that me? Is that my subconscious? You know? But then there 569 00:43:14.320 --> 00:43:19.880 are lots of other things. And one of the strangest things about the hypnosis, 570 00:43:19.880 --> 00:43:23.280 what I found always very strange was Kelly. She was in the back 571 00:43:23.360 --> 00:43:28.320 seat of the car under the hypnosis, and she wasn't to the right of 572 00:43:28.320 --> 00:43:34.599 me anymore now looking back, but she was next to me as I drove 573 00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:37.480 over the bridge, because I know which side of the car she came out. 574 00:43:37.559 --> 00:43:40.400 She didn't drive out, she didn't climb over the you know, the 575 00:43:40.840 --> 00:43:45.440 back back seat of the car and then you know, lifted up the front 576 00:43:45.719 --> 00:43:49.159 seat and then get out. No, she was in the front, but 577 00:43:49.239 --> 00:43:52.679 in the hypnosis she was in the back, and that freaked me out. 578 00:43:53.039 --> 00:43:58.559 So presentation there was a child, one of the beings had a baby. 579 00:43:58.880 --> 00:44:01.880 I knew that that baby wasn't mine. I was very aware. So they 580 00:44:01.920 --> 00:44:07.159 call it I supposed like the child presentation. Don't they that baby was not 581 00:44:07.360 --> 00:44:13.519 mine? That presentational that I suppose let's say a presentation of beings in I'm 582 00:44:13.519 --> 00:44:20.280 in Company with was about them. I felt such love from them and a 583 00:44:20.440 --> 00:44:25.960 knowing, a deeper knowing and a deeper understanding of probably other encounters. That 584 00:44:25.960 --> 00:44:30.719 that baby wasn't mine. It was about the beings. And I'll always say 585 00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:34.440 that because Bud, you know, he worded it very well. He didn't 586 00:44:34.480 --> 00:44:37.480 I suppose they say I lead you or anything like that. He asked it 587 00:44:37.480 --> 00:44:42.760 in a various different ways throughout the hypnosis back and forth. No, that 588 00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:46.559 being with the baby wasn't my baby at all. It was about the beings. 589 00:44:46.719 --> 00:44:53.159 What I have when I've had other experiences with beings next to me physically 590 00:44:53.400 --> 00:45:00.320 that I consciously remember, and I consciously remember beings being next to me a 591 00:45:00.360 --> 00:45:04.079 few occasions. It was about the beings. It was that blessed to have 592 00:45:04.119 --> 00:45:07.559 worked with and then obviously John Mack backwards and forth with emails with him, 593 00:45:07.800 --> 00:45:12.639 you know, going to set something up to be able to go and work 594 00:45:12.679 --> 00:45:17.440 with him as well, to explore further avenues with John and Peers. I 595 00:45:17.440 --> 00:45:22.159 think it was called wasn't it that John did? That never came into fruitition 596 00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:28.239 at all, but you know, documented lots of things with him and chatted 597 00:45:28.280 --> 00:45:31.480 with him and things. So that was the encounter. We then I had 598 00:45:31.519 --> 00:45:37.039 obviously go back to the Pang encounter. After that, there was strange things 599 00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:39.480 that did happen into Panka Canyon. Didn't know it was a UFO hotspot. 600 00:45:39.760 --> 00:45:45.880 I would go out to the general store into Panga Canyon and there would be 601 00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:50.400 a big poster. Have you seen any UFOs into Panka Canyon? I was 602 00:45:50.440 --> 00:45:53.119 like, what I saw a poster then hanging up with a UFO on it 603 00:45:53.159 --> 00:45:55.639 into Panky Canyon. I'm like, well, yeah, I know what happened 604 00:45:55.639 --> 00:45:59.159 to me. Like three weeks ago. I remember taking them down and they 605 00:45:59.159 --> 00:46:01.840 were on telephone poles Themember taking them down. I took a couple I think, 606 00:46:02.360 --> 00:46:07.000 and it was Preston Dennett back at the time that put them up there. 607 00:46:07.039 --> 00:46:09.000 So this is we're talking. We're talking February, March April. We're 608 00:46:09.000 --> 00:46:14.239 talking March March April ninety three, and I was taking them down And it 609 00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:16.960 wasn't until I went back to England and you know, ninety three, came 610 00:46:17.039 --> 00:46:22.079 back ninety four, kind of just trying to sort my head out coming back 611 00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:25.360 to England. On the top of my mind was always the UFO stuff. 612 00:46:27.079 --> 00:46:30.880 Then Night five started looking into it a bit more, we didn't have the 613 00:46:30.920 --> 00:46:35.039 Internet so much as of then, and then we you know, we had 614 00:46:35.159 --> 00:46:42.199 the you know UFO Reality Sightings magazine Encounters magazine that was available in wh smith 615 00:46:42.519 --> 00:46:45.639 and the newsagents. I was buying those. Weirdly, one of the I 616 00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:50.800 think it was in Sitings magazine was published in Exeter, where I was living 617 00:46:50.880 --> 00:46:54.840 at the time. Decided to start up a witness support group with a few 618 00:46:54.920 --> 00:47:01.320 people, few other experiences. And how it came about was I had put 619 00:47:01.320 --> 00:47:06.159 in the local newspaper a bit like yourself, Nick, wanting to be around 620 00:47:06.440 --> 00:47:10.519 other people that had had other encounters of the paranormal, just wanted to meet 621 00:47:10.559 --> 00:47:15.760 fellow other people just to have a general chitchat. And I would then started 622 00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:19.519 I've got a po box. And then my PO box was like just stacked 623 00:47:19.519 --> 00:47:23.639 to the hill of like people experiences, you know, abductees writ to me 624 00:47:23.920 --> 00:47:29.239 from all over England, and actually it's not just all over England because it 625 00:47:29.320 --> 00:47:31.599 went to many many countries those you know, and I'd be getting letters left, 626 00:47:31.679 --> 00:47:37.079 right and center. So I started a I got a questionnaire together, 627 00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:42.159 and if I go back to ninety six October ninety six, I wrote to 628 00:47:42.599 --> 00:47:45.000 a gentleman from mouf On. At the time, I think he was state 629 00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:50.320 director of California. His name was Walt Andreas. He's well known within the 630 00:47:50.360 --> 00:47:55.440 field. I remember calling him, having a phone conversation with him. It 631 00:47:55.480 --> 00:48:00.760 is recorded and I still have of telling him about my ufoone counterpard on the 632 00:48:00.760 --> 00:48:05.239 freeway and he was very matter of factose you know, was quite incredible. 633 00:48:05.320 --> 00:48:07.440 It involved in you know, a craft and men in black car, a 634 00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:13.719 military helicopters. It doesn't really happen, well it does. Somebody else has 635 00:48:13.800 --> 00:48:21.639 just gone forward that has had a fantastic UFO encounter and that involved at craft, 636 00:48:21.840 --> 00:48:25.440 military helicopters and the men in black car. Raphael has got a I 637 00:48:25.480 --> 00:48:30.079 think he's on Prime calling all beings. You can go and watch and hear 638 00:48:30.280 --> 00:48:37.719 his and his wife's encounter with military helicopters intercepting a craft with a men in 639 00:48:37.719 --> 00:48:42.639 black car. So I can remember hearing it thinking, oh my god, 640 00:48:42.719 --> 00:48:46.679 this is amazing. So there has to be a report, military report from 641 00:48:46.880 --> 00:48:52.480 the helicopters that were intercepting it. So something exists somewhere, and obviously with 642 00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:54.719 disclosure coming out now and us fighting for it more. You know, I've 643 00:48:54.719 --> 00:48:59.320 talked about this for twenty six years right, How amazing is it for me 644 00:48:59.440 --> 00:49:01.840 now know, to be a bit more in the public eye to say, 645 00:49:01.840 --> 00:49:04.760 hang on a minute. You know, it's all very well for you to 646 00:49:04.920 --> 00:49:08.760 talk about your military helicopters and your pilot. Hang on a report somewhere on 647 00:49:08.840 --> 00:49:13.760 my encounter. If we go back to Andreas and the phone call in ninety 648 00:49:13.800 --> 00:49:17.159 six, I remember him being very matter of fact. I then filed a 649 00:49:17.239 --> 00:49:22.320 report with him, sent a report over I think five or six page report. 650 00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:24.000 You know. I did what I needed to do of my encounter. 651 00:49:24.119 --> 00:49:31.400 And then then I went to a conference in Bristol with an abductee that ironically, 652 00:49:32.559 --> 00:49:37.119 there's no such things, as you know, weirdness in this business, 653 00:49:37.159 --> 00:49:42.119 except for the high strangeness I witnessed where this lady lives. I witnessed craft 654 00:49:42.199 --> 00:49:45.559 going over towards her house, and they were the silver balls that we all 655 00:49:45.559 --> 00:49:49.280 see on the like stills. Now, they were very large, they were 656 00:49:49.320 --> 00:49:52.079 like sea mines, and they were going towards her house. So a couple 657 00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:55.400 of days later I was introduced to her. She said, oh, I 658 00:49:55.440 --> 00:50:00.400 saw some things going over to a house. Anyway, cut long story short. 659 00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:08.920 Her abduction happened in Bristol, the weekend of Rendalsham Forest, which is 660 00:50:09.079 --> 00:50:15.039 phenomenal because we know Rendalsham happened over three days and her abduction with other people 661 00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:20.480 up on this I think it's called Windmill Hill, So I remember rightly. 662 00:50:20.760 --> 00:50:25.079 They load of people that were walking there all ended up having the same encounter 663 00:50:25.400 --> 00:50:30.960 stillness and having a craft over them, and then you know, went lots 664 00:50:31.000 --> 00:50:36.079 of physical encounters with it, and then they went on their way in a 665 00:50:36.159 --> 00:50:38.840 date on the weekend, same weekend as Drench Forest. So I started a 666 00:50:38.920 --> 00:50:44.679 ufone group with her, Helen, and another lady called Kathy, and it 667 00:50:44.800 --> 00:50:49.400 just got more and more popular. So we went to a conference. Nick 668 00:50:49.480 --> 00:50:53.119 Pope was there from the Ministry Defenses in all of these magazines and interviews these 669 00:50:53.159 --> 00:50:55.119 people, and this is what he does for a living. I need to 670 00:50:55.119 --> 00:50:59.599 talk to him, you know. So I waited until he'd finished talking to 671 00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:04.000 various other people like myself, and I introduced myself and I said, listen, 672 00:51:04.079 --> 00:51:07.480 you know, I had an encounter in America, and I don't think 673 00:51:07.480 --> 00:51:09.199 I told him about at that time, about any of my other encounters, 674 00:51:09.199 --> 00:51:14.119 but this is what happened. Old military helicopters and men in black carp and 675 00:51:14.920 --> 00:51:20.320 he was interested, he was intrigued, and we exchanged I think he gave 676 00:51:20.400 --> 00:51:25.400 me his the desk number and email and everything, which is still have and 677 00:51:27.039 --> 00:51:30.119 phone number of the desk he was working at. And I had then had 678 00:51:30.119 --> 00:51:34.639 something put in the newspaper, you know, starting up a witness support group, 679 00:51:34.880 --> 00:51:38.920 and they made me and Kafe and Helen look like like we wear tinfoil 680 00:51:39.039 --> 00:51:44.079 hats right with antennayes on us. And I just thought, you know what, 681 00:51:44.360 --> 00:51:46.519 I'm not going to be laughed at. So I contacted Nick Pope. 682 00:51:46.519 --> 00:51:51.320 I said, listen, they've published something in the newspaper. I'm not happy 683 00:51:51.400 --> 00:51:55.159 with it. Can you stick up for us because this does happen in which 684 00:51:55.320 --> 00:52:04.000 Nick did, and that was the start of my Nick's friendship and looking into 685 00:52:04.320 --> 00:52:12.599 my encounter encounters more and more so that and yeah, ninety six to now, 686 00:52:12.719 --> 00:52:17.039 you know I've spoken various well they would have been the old Leeds conferences 687 00:52:17.320 --> 00:52:23.800 and exopolitics. In twenty eleven, I did my presentations with Nick Pope as 688 00:52:23.880 --> 00:52:30.119 he interviewed me and presentation talking about my encounters. And since then have I 689 00:52:30.199 --> 00:52:35.880 had more ufone encounters? Yes, every experience has been very very different. 690 00:52:36.320 --> 00:52:39.800 No, two are the same. One thing that I will say regarding the 691 00:52:39.920 --> 00:52:47.559 encounter in holiday In was at the Exopolitics conference in twenty eleven, I had 692 00:52:47.639 --> 00:52:52.320 somebody, a gentleman from the audience, put his hand up because obviously there 693 00:52:52.360 --> 00:52:57.400 was visuals along with the presentation. I had a picture of the apartment that 694 00:52:57.440 --> 00:53:00.400 I went to, and someone put their hand up and went, do you 695 00:53:00.599 --> 00:53:05.360 know what that number is? And I didn't even look at it, to 696 00:53:05.400 --> 00:53:09.480 be honest, I want nope. And this is back in twenty eleven. 697 00:53:09.519 --> 00:53:15.119 I did this right. It was the exact date of nine to eleven. 698 00:53:15.280 --> 00:53:19.599 So out in America you put your month, your date, and then your 699 00:53:19.679 --> 00:53:22.239 year, and that's what it was, month, date and year, which 700 00:53:22.280 --> 00:53:25.320 was quite remarkable really, as you could say, well that's just a coincidence. 701 00:53:27.159 --> 00:53:30.880 I don't know. It was just a bit bizarre. Now, also 702 00:53:30.239 --> 00:53:37.000 in regards to the encounter in Brentwood, there is another high strangeness that is 703 00:53:37.800 --> 00:53:43.480 undeniable. When I had another UFO encounter many many many years later, where 704 00:53:43.480 --> 00:53:46.800 I was living in Devon, I was working at an all boys school. 705 00:53:47.199 --> 00:53:51.440 And I'll say this quite quickly, but I was working at an all boys 706 00:53:51.480 --> 00:53:54.320 school. I was on radio link with the other members of staff early morning, 707 00:53:54.400 --> 00:53:59.800 and I was reading a book by Courtney Brown. It was about remote 708 00:53:59.840 --> 00:54:04.280 year and it was probably about six seven o'clock in the morning. I remember 709 00:54:04.519 --> 00:54:07.360 having read it, put it down because I felt how to go to the 710 00:54:07.400 --> 00:54:10.719 window, got up on the sofa, went to the window and I saw 711 00:54:10.880 --> 00:54:15.840 these silver balls that people are seeing now. I've seen so many of these 712 00:54:15.039 --> 00:54:20.000 in a few places in the world. I saw a couple in muck Minville 713 00:54:20.000 --> 00:54:23.119 when I was there with two other experiences. I've seen them with my eldest 714 00:54:23.119 --> 00:54:28.079 son Orian. Many of them like they were caught in fishing nets, a 715 00:54:28.079 --> 00:54:31.800 bit like you know the starlink now, but we're talking like fifteen years ago, 716 00:54:31.960 --> 00:54:35.440 right. They're floating above us and you start counting, you get to 717 00:54:35.480 --> 00:54:37.400 about thirty, go, oh my god, that's too many, you know, 718 00:54:37.519 --> 00:54:39.000 And then we just watched them go out of our way. But I'm 719 00:54:39.039 --> 00:54:45.880 watching these silver structure balls and they were very intelligently forming, going over the 720 00:54:45.880 --> 00:54:49.639 tops of these trees, like playing with them going over the tops. And 721 00:54:49.679 --> 00:54:52.840 I called the radio. This person didn't come up that it's meant to come 722 00:54:52.920 --> 00:54:55.000 up. My boss did. He's now looking at me looking out the window, 723 00:54:55.199 --> 00:54:58.559 we do come and look at this. So I showed him and he 724 00:54:58.599 --> 00:55:01.800 went, oh, yes, and then they went that day and we can 725 00:55:02.000 --> 00:55:07.360 get that date. That date. When I got back home, I went 726 00:55:07.519 --> 00:55:10.159 back to sleep early in the morning, like let's say eight thirty nine o'clock. 727 00:55:10.159 --> 00:55:14.239 When I got back in the morning. You know, I went back 728 00:55:14.280 --> 00:55:17.159 to sleep, woke up at lunchtime, and my ex husband at the time 729 00:55:17.239 --> 00:55:22.159 said to me, Corey Haim from Lost Boys had died, and so we'll 730 00:55:22.159 --> 00:55:24.280 know now if anyone googles it what date it was. I said, oh 731 00:55:24.360 --> 00:55:28.559 right, So I love that film because it is one of my favorite films. 732 00:55:28.559 --> 00:55:30.599 I just could watch that over and over and over over. Real gay 733 00:55:30.719 --> 00:55:32.920 and he lived in the valley. I was like, oh, I lived 734 00:55:32.920 --> 00:55:36.320 in the valley. He lived in Wood and Hills. God, that's crazy. 735 00:55:36.360 --> 00:55:38.440 I lived in Wood and oh my god. He died in Oakward Apartments. 736 00:55:38.480 --> 00:55:42.840 Now Oakward Apartments, Yes, it is a big apartment blocks, various 737 00:55:42.840 --> 00:55:45.880 places, lots of them. But the fact that he died in Oakward Apartments 738 00:55:46.280 --> 00:55:52.280 on the day that I had a UFO encounter that morning, it linked me 739 00:55:52.440 --> 00:55:57.559 back yet again my encounter in Brentwood. And you know, I know with 740 00:55:58.480 --> 00:56:04.239 experiences. We have huge high strangeness with it, and it's just like it's 741 00:56:04.320 --> 00:56:08.920 like them upstairs playing little games with more confirmations that you are on your right 742 00:56:09.000 --> 00:56:15.960 path. You know. It's quite crazy, actually quite crazy. Yeah. 743 00:56:15.079 --> 00:56:22.760 Interesting. Going back to Dolores Cannon, you said during hypnosis you revisited your 744 00:56:22.840 --> 00:56:29.119 childhood encounters. Yeah, so now I was going through when I was being 745 00:56:29.760 --> 00:56:32.960 when I went to meet what came out unto the hypnosism. Now this time 746 00:56:34.000 --> 00:56:38.400 I was having major, major cluster headaches. It was horrendous, and I 747 00:56:38.519 --> 00:56:44.199 was having encounters as well. At the time of in the apartment that I 748 00:56:44.280 --> 00:56:47.719 was living in, it would be there was one occasion that I had beings 749 00:56:47.840 --> 00:56:52.000 next to me physically. Remember this was without without the hypnosis, so I 750 00:56:52.079 --> 00:56:57.440 had a lot of high activity. I remember Orian was very young. I 751 00:56:57.519 --> 00:57:00.760 was in this room that he was in out of the window and there was 752 00:57:00.800 --> 00:57:07.559 a church that I'd look down upon the area. If I looked out of 753 00:57:07.599 --> 00:57:09.599 the window, there would be another block of houses there, then there'd be 754 00:57:09.599 --> 00:57:14.239 a road, and then there'd be a big, massive church. Seeing this 755 00:57:14.760 --> 00:57:22.679 vast triangular black object going very slowly over the top of the church. Literally 756 00:57:22.960 --> 00:57:28.280 just this mass going over the top of the church, and when we swapped 757 00:57:28.400 --> 00:57:34.480 bedrooms to the other bedroom, that's when I had three beings next to my 758 00:57:34.519 --> 00:57:38.039 bed. And I'd gone to bed because I had a really bad headache again. 759 00:57:38.199 --> 00:57:43.119 And this is the time where I had looked into you know, speaking 760 00:57:43.119 --> 00:57:46.239 to the doctor saying you'd had a UFO encounter, and he was trying to 761 00:57:46.280 --> 00:57:50.800 treat me for you know, like the radiation. My hair was falling out. 762 00:57:50.840 --> 00:57:52.880 Now you remember, I've got a young baby as well, so you 763 00:57:52.880 --> 00:57:54.079 know, you could say hair loss comes from that as well. But I 764 00:57:54.159 --> 00:57:58.440 was honest with the doctor, so we looked into various I think I went 765 00:57:58.480 --> 00:58:02.400 on homopathic tablet. So I had three beings next to me. I will 766 00:58:02.440 --> 00:58:06.800 go back to Dolores, but this is all inter linked. I had remember 767 00:58:06.960 --> 00:58:08.639 getting into bed, lying down in bed, I'm on the right hand side 768 00:58:08.679 --> 00:58:14.079 of the bed, and all of a sudden boom, I have three beings 769 00:58:14.400 --> 00:58:16.440 next to me. The presence of them. I could see them out of 770 00:58:16.480 --> 00:58:21.239 the corner of my eye, turning my head and seeing them. They were 771 00:58:21.280 --> 00:58:25.239 pretty much in the same formation as another encounter that I had had only a 772 00:58:25.280 --> 00:58:30.679 couple of years ago to now, and they were next to me, and 773 00:58:30.800 --> 00:58:35.840 all I remember is then turning my head very slowly, thinking, oh God. 774 00:58:36.199 --> 00:58:40.159 I remember putting my head looking up at the ceiling, and all of 775 00:58:40.239 --> 00:58:47.000 a sudden I felt a very very sharp like needle go up the bottom of 776 00:58:47.039 --> 00:58:52.480 my lower spine a bit kind of like being a mum where I've had an 777 00:58:52.480 --> 00:58:58.679 air padural and it piercing into me, feeling it going in, and then 778 00:58:58.880 --> 00:59:02.519 feeling it's like a heart monitor again like the TV in my head. I 779 00:59:02.840 --> 00:59:07.719 just then as it went in, I then felt like I want to call 780 00:59:07.800 --> 00:59:12.360 I always call it like a dartboard. It went in, and then you've 781 00:59:12.400 --> 00:59:15.719 got a ring of like where I felt it. Then that ring expanded, 782 00:59:16.519 --> 00:59:22.400 and then that ring expanded and then expanded more to the point that I'm bang, 783 00:59:22.559 --> 00:59:27.000 I'm out and I've gone somewhere, or I'm out cold. That's with 784 00:59:27.079 --> 00:59:30.199 the beings next to me now. In the first bedroom where I saw the 785 00:59:30.239 --> 00:59:35.760 black triangle, I remember being able to go out of my body, lying 786 00:59:35.880 --> 00:59:39.760 down on the bed all of a sudden, taking a very strange gasper there 787 00:59:39.960 --> 00:59:45.800 which sounded so unusual, and I took a massive gasp of there. And 788 00:59:45.840 --> 00:59:52.639 then as I'm lying down on the bed, I'm now seeing me float right 789 00:59:52.679 --> 00:59:55.559 above me, eye to I looking down upon me, and me looking up 790 00:59:55.599 --> 01:00:00.440 to me, and then me above me said to me, beneath this one 791 01:00:00.920 --> 01:00:07.039 lies the true one. And I remember thinking what and like straight back into 792 01:00:07.039 --> 01:00:15.280 my body. So I was having a lot of unusual things happen high activity. 793 01:00:15.119 --> 01:00:20.559 So we go back to Dolores Canon. Dolores was putting me under the 794 01:00:20.639 --> 01:00:24.920 hypnosis, and under the hypnosis, I had so many blocks. And what 795 01:00:24.960 --> 01:00:29.800 I need to do is dig out the VHS machine and listen to them and 796 01:00:29.880 --> 01:00:32.519 watch them again. I've started to, but there's got to be a lot 797 01:00:32.559 --> 01:00:37.280 of information in there, and it would be nice Nick to actually kind of 798 01:00:37.599 --> 01:00:40.880 I don't know if I want to put them out totally one hundred percent public, 799 01:00:40.920 --> 01:00:45.679 because they're very personal to me, I've saying along with Bud Hopkins, 800 01:00:45.760 --> 01:00:51.599 but I always find it very interesting when I hear people's hypnosis and what comes 801 01:00:51.639 --> 01:00:54.920 out, you know, I just think and watching them as well. I 802 01:00:54.960 --> 01:01:00.800 have the visuals for the VHS for Dolores, but the audio for you know, 803 01:01:00.920 --> 01:01:06.719 we Bud Hopkins. So with Dolores, I was being blocked because of 804 01:01:06.760 --> 01:01:14.320 these headaches so much. But what I saw under the hypnosis was beings working 805 01:01:14.559 --> 01:01:21.679 on me energetically. It confirmed my encounters in the garden where they used to 806 01:01:21.719 --> 01:01:24.719 take me, where they used to lie me down in this one part always 807 01:01:24.719 --> 01:01:31.360 of the garden, and fitting me with a box inside me in the Lady 808 01:01:31.639 --> 01:01:37.519 Regions and a metal box, and I remember feeling it, not being happy 809 01:01:37.880 --> 01:01:42.280 with them putting it in me, you know. So there was a lot 810 01:01:42.280 --> 01:01:45.480 of crying. There was a lot of trawn behind it. And then also 811 01:01:45.079 --> 01:01:51.960 with that they would become very close to me, as in visually I had 812 01:01:52.119 --> 01:01:57.559 them looking down upon me. So when I say that I don't physically ever 813 01:01:57.639 --> 01:02:00.679 remember being in a craft, I've had lots of dreams where I've been in 814 01:02:00.719 --> 01:02:07.079 a craft. I've had lots of dreams where I've been working with the beings. 815 01:02:07.320 --> 01:02:12.559 I've had dreams where I've walked around a craft and looked out the windows 816 01:02:12.559 --> 01:02:15.320 and can see earth below so all the stars everywhere, and see beings next 817 01:02:15.360 --> 01:02:21.159 to me. But those are dream formats. Now whether it's a memory, 818 01:02:21.400 --> 01:02:29.679 but I'm just putting that in there. I don't physically recall me having being 819 01:02:29.800 --> 01:02:37.599 in the craft. Besides these with Dolores, these beings, Grays would be 820 01:02:37.360 --> 01:02:40.360 at this point so that the other beings in the garden where they fit the 821 01:02:40.360 --> 01:02:45.239 box. Those were the light beings that I saw in Brentwood. These beings 822 01:02:45.039 --> 01:02:51.599 were looking right, I mean as close as like your handspan away, and 823 01:02:51.679 --> 01:02:57.199 I would see their eyes so visually enough to make when I looked at something, 824 01:02:57.559 --> 01:03:01.320 it made my eyes soar from look looking at it. They were stagnant, 825 01:03:01.800 --> 01:03:07.960 real dark green. They were alive. They had an energy behind them. 826 01:03:08.320 --> 01:03:15.280 And then then I was shown it without the lens. Now we're going 827 01:03:15.440 --> 01:03:20.519 back to Dolores Cannon the in ninety seven, right ninety seven. I hadn't 828 01:03:20.559 --> 01:03:24.280 heard about this at all, so I was just going with what I was 829 01:03:24.360 --> 01:03:31.960 recollecting and what I remember of them looking over me. I was then shown 830 01:03:32.599 --> 01:03:37.440 shown the lens taken away, and then cat's eyes right in front of me. 831 01:03:37.920 --> 01:03:43.559 So I always call it slits for eyes. So I got they showed 832 01:03:43.599 --> 01:03:50.360 me what was behind their lens, And like I said, I don't remember 833 01:03:50.840 --> 01:03:57.360 ever hearing about this. I was quite shocked by that. How when I 834 01:03:57.400 --> 01:04:00.880 say alive, I want to say, like the stagnant green you know where 835 01:04:00.920 --> 01:04:03.199 you had the shimmer of light on it, so I knew it was alive. 836 01:04:03.320 --> 01:04:06.519 I knew it had water in that eye. I knew it had moisture 837 01:04:06.559 --> 01:04:10.960 in that eye, and it was so close to me. So yeah, 838 01:04:11.039 --> 01:04:15.480 that was with Lorus. Now. She kept asking the questions, you know, 839 01:04:15.599 --> 01:04:18.320 why why are you blocking, Bridget, Why are you blocking? And 840 01:04:18.360 --> 01:04:23.960 they kept saying because she's not allowed to remember yet. I was then retelling 841 01:04:24.000 --> 01:04:26.920 her, I'm not allowed to remember yet. It's not I can't, I 842 01:04:26.920 --> 01:04:30.679 can't say it. I'm not allowed to remember yet. Yeah, that was 843 01:04:30.760 --> 01:04:43.159 quite interesting. Do you have an interest in the beara normal? Did? 844 01:04:43.199 --> 01:04:46.840 You'll love the unex network dot com. The ex is your streaming audio and 845 01:04:46.960 --> 01:04:55.239 video for everything supernatural, strange and mysterious like UFO's Bigfoot Ghost and so much 846 01:04:55.280 --> 01:05:00.119 more from host like Clyde Lewis Whitley, streamber, Michah Haiges Christina Gomez. 847 01:05:00.440 --> 01:05:05.039 Visit the unexnetwork dot com show page for a complete list of all the paranormal 848 01:05:05.079 --> 01:05:09.840 programs you'll find on the X. Be sure to follow us on Twitter for 849 01:05:09.920 --> 01:05:15.480 updates at ku NXDB, follow our Facebook group an X Network, by the 850 01:05:15.559 --> 01:05:20.599 podcast on Spotify, iHeart Audible and Apple Podcasting. It's time, It's true 851 01:05:21.440 --> 01:05:34.480 is the x X and when it comes to family members. Are you aware 852 01:05:34.599 --> 01:05:39.800 of any of that? I have experienced anything similar. Yeah, So both 853 01:05:39.880 --> 01:05:44.679 my brothers have had UFO encounters. I think one brother more than the others, 854 01:05:44.719 --> 01:05:49.679 had a lot of high strangeness and is quite open psychically. One of 855 01:05:49.719 --> 01:05:56.039 my brothers had witnessed one as he was on the train going to Xmouth over 856 01:05:56.079 --> 01:06:00.159 the Estuary. I don't really remember him saying that as to me, it 857 01:06:00.280 --> 01:06:04.360 was only as he got older. What we did speak about was always the 858 01:06:04.360 --> 01:06:10.159 man at the bottom of the garden. My first brother, he had an 859 01:06:10.320 --> 01:06:15.719 encounter and it involved being in a graveyard. And it's funny because Preston den 860 01:06:15.719 --> 01:06:20.159 it's some fantastic episode of UFOs for graveyards. And I remember I think my 861 01:06:20.199 --> 01:06:27.440 brother saying that he stayed underneath this massive yew tree with his mate and hid 862 01:06:27.639 --> 01:06:31.079 from it. So both of them had My mum no, no, not 863 01:06:31.199 --> 01:06:33.880 that she ever told me. My dad, like I said, was very 864 01:06:33.920 --> 01:06:41.239 open. My dad was in the RAF. My dad's dad was a pilot. 865 01:06:41.440 --> 01:06:45.360 He used to own a airfield and fly cargo. My dad was very 866 01:06:45.480 --> 01:06:53.280 much interested in UFOs. As I got into my UFO, let's say, 867 01:06:53.320 --> 01:06:59.320 witness support group, Nick always used to kindly give me a book to give 868 01:06:59.400 --> 01:07:01.159 to my dad had to be able to read. And my dad was, 869 01:07:01.440 --> 01:07:04.159 you know, loved all that. My dad was sort of like into you 870 01:07:04.199 --> 01:07:10.199 know, pin codes, human pin codes, you know, like essences, 871 01:07:10.280 --> 01:07:14.039 like the bark remedies. You know, he had allotments. He was very 872 01:07:14.119 --> 01:07:15.599 sort of like liked all his herbal stuff. I mean, god, he 873 01:07:15.719 --> 01:07:20.159 liked his whiskey tap. But definitely Dad never said anything that he had it, 874 01:07:20.199 --> 01:07:24.239 but he was very very proactive for me doing it. Mum. No, 875 01:07:24.480 --> 01:07:29.039 but both my brothers, yes, and your experiences have the He continued 876 01:07:29.079 --> 01:07:32.119 on, So if we go back to what I told you earlier about the 877 01:07:32.239 --> 01:07:36.480 All Boys school that I used to work at on top of the sofa looking 878 01:07:36.519 --> 01:07:43.679 out the window watching these silver structured balls, that was one encounter, and 879 01:07:43.719 --> 01:07:48.199 then I had in the same vicinity. I used to live it in this 880 01:07:48.320 --> 01:07:54.239 old house. And one night I remember going to lock the house up, 881 01:07:54.639 --> 01:07:57.320 and it was an old Victorian house, and I walked down the hallway. 882 01:07:57.679 --> 01:08:00.440 I went to the front door, which was a glass front door that looked 883 01:08:00.440 --> 01:08:04.480 out to the little front part of the garden where my car was parked, 884 01:08:04.559 --> 01:08:12.440 and there in front of me was this massive white ball that was hovering. 885 01:08:12.920 --> 01:08:16.640 It was next to my car side mirrors. It was high up off the 886 01:08:16.680 --> 01:08:24.039 floor and it was hanging there and it wasn't lighting up anything. It wasn't 887 01:08:24.079 --> 01:08:28.439 lighting up my car, it wasn't lighting up the floor, it wasn't lighting 888 01:08:28.520 --> 01:08:31.680 up the bushes behind it. And this was late at night. It was 889 01:08:32.000 --> 01:08:38.800 an object that was outside. It was so big and it was unusually big 890 01:08:38.920 --> 01:08:45.600 and how it wasn't lighting anything up staring at for someone feeling a bit unnerved 891 01:08:45.760 --> 01:08:48.039 because his house was quite in the middle of nowhere, and calling my son 892 01:08:48.039 --> 01:08:51.439 a Ryan downstairs, and he came downstairs and I said, come and look 893 01:08:51.439 --> 01:08:55.119 at this. Come and look at this. And it stayed there. So 894 01:08:55.159 --> 01:08:59.119 we didn't open the front door. We were just looking at it from the 895 01:08:59.279 --> 01:09:02.720 glass looking out. What is it? I don't know, And we're staring 896 01:09:02.800 --> 01:09:05.119 at this thing. So when you say size wise there, you know, 897 01:09:05.199 --> 01:09:11.359 like those exercise balls that you sit on like some people do their like exercise 898 01:09:11.439 --> 01:09:14.119 on. It was a bit bigger than that. And it was in the 899 01:09:14.159 --> 01:09:18.119 air next to my my wing mirrors and we're watching it. We're watching it. 900 01:09:18.159 --> 01:09:23.600 We're probably there for about five minutes. We don't know what to do. 901 01:09:23.760 --> 01:09:28.840 We're just staring at it, and then it starts to diminish the light. 902 01:09:29.000 --> 01:09:31.960 It starts to go down and go down to the point it just blinks 903 01:09:32.000 --> 01:09:35.319 off and goes out. And we just said, he said, right, 904 01:09:35.760 --> 01:09:39.520 lock all the doors, Let's go around the house. Let's just make everything 905 01:09:39.720 --> 01:09:44.239 sure that it was locked up in which we did. Now that house again, 906 01:09:44.680 --> 01:09:47.039 I'm driving to work, going to the boys school. It's a massive 907 01:09:47.079 --> 01:09:51.560 long lane in the middle of nowhere. The actual area is called beer Alston 908 01:09:51.640 --> 01:09:56.279 if anyone wants to know where it is. It's going towards beer Allston in 909 01:09:56.760 --> 01:10:01.199 Devon. It's on the outskirts of Tavastock and driving along that road and I'm 910 01:10:01.279 --> 01:10:05.039 doing nights there at that point, so I'm going I think probably I must 911 01:10:05.239 --> 01:10:08.680 maybe let's say I start at you know, nine o'clock at night, so 912 01:10:08.680 --> 01:10:11.880 I'm probably driving there about you know, twenty to nine. And all of 913 01:10:11.920 --> 01:10:15.119 a sudden, as I'm driving along that road, dark and night only me 914 01:10:15.239 --> 01:10:17.479 on that road. As I'm driving along that road, to the right of 915 01:10:17.520 --> 01:10:21.239 me, over the other side of the road, up high, I can 916 01:10:21.239 --> 01:10:26.920 see this light and I can see this light descending, and this light is 917 01:10:27.039 --> 01:10:30.760 descending and it's now again sort of by the tops of the trees, and 918 01:10:30.840 --> 01:10:34.960 I'm watching it as I'm driving towards it. I then pull my car over. 919 01:10:35.359 --> 01:10:39.159 I get out of my car, cross the road, only me on 920 01:10:39.159 --> 01:10:43.720 the road. Cross the road, and I go to a gate that's there. 921 01:10:44.279 --> 01:10:47.840 I stand on top of this metal gate and I'm now looking to the 922 01:10:47.960 --> 01:10:54.199 left at it. It's now coming down in front of the trees. So 923 01:10:54.239 --> 01:10:58.000 it's now in front of the trees, coming down like it's dropping. Its 924 01:10:58.079 --> 01:11:01.479 dropping down, down, down, down, to the point it's pretty much 925 01:11:01.520 --> 01:11:09.279 on the floor. This field had been plowed, and now it's sort of 926 01:11:09.359 --> 01:11:15.319 coming towards me a little bit. But now it's going down away from me, 927 01:11:15.720 --> 01:11:19.840 down the plowed field. It's like an energy ball of white light going 928 01:11:19.920 --> 01:11:26.840 down the field. I remember watching it till it went thought okay, get 929 01:11:26.880 --> 01:11:30.079 back in the car. Went to work on that same road again. I 930 01:11:30.199 --> 01:11:36.720 had another high strangeness encounter, which was it was a Sunday. I had 931 01:11:36.760 --> 01:11:43.239 to go into Plymouth. I needed a printer scanner for because I was doing 932 01:11:43.279 --> 01:11:45.880 a lot of the UFO stuff at the time. Didn't have one. Went 933 01:11:45.920 --> 01:11:49.720 to a store on a Sunday, parked my car up, went to the 934 01:11:49.800 --> 01:11:55.520 store, went inside, and I went in there with the intention to go 935 01:11:55.560 --> 01:11:59.199 by print scanner. A few people were being served. I didn't know what 936 01:11:59.279 --> 01:12:01.079 I was looking for. I needed to make sure that I spoke to a 937 01:12:01.119 --> 01:12:04.239 person. Everyone was busy, and it was quite late in the day. 938 01:12:04.399 --> 01:12:09.560 It was Sunday. Everything closes at four o'clock, so I probably was being 939 01:12:09.640 --> 01:12:13.680 about there. I don't know about maybe about you know three, moldering around, 940 01:12:13.720 --> 01:12:15.880 looking around. And then it got to the point of I knew that 941 01:12:15.920 --> 01:12:19.560 I couldn't speak to anyone. It was beyond me what I needed to know. 942 01:12:19.920 --> 01:12:21.960 What did I need? And I thought, I'm just going to go 943 01:12:23.359 --> 01:12:28.119 left, walked outside into the car park that didn't have many people in the 944 01:12:28.159 --> 01:12:31.239 car park, got to my car. Well, it was like a Grand 945 01:12:31.319 --> 01:12:36.640 Voyager American Chrysler, so it was a bit big, slidey doors quite high. 946 01:12:36.720 --> 01:12:42.359 Up there on the floor next to my car door was a print scanner 947 01:12:42.479 --> 01:12:45.720 on the floor. I looked at it. I was like, what h 948 01:12:46.239 --> 01:12:48.479 I didn't speak to anyone in the store, so no one would have known 949 01:12:48.479 --> 01:12:54.319 I was looking for a print scanner unless all of them in there were telepathic. 950 01:12:54.760 --> 01:12:57.279 And I'm like, well, Prince scanner on the floor. I remember 951 01:12:57.359 --> 01:13:00.720 looking around the car lot and thinking watching me, well, this is a 952 01:13:00.720 --> 01:13:04.119 bit weird. This is just like the story of my life of weirdness. 953 01:13:04.399 --> 01:13:09.279 I think, what what do I do? Has someone left one there? 954 01:13:09.319 --> 01:13:12.359 That's quite good? Thought, well, I'll just leave it next to someone 955 01:13:12.399 --> 01:13:14.439 if they want to pick it up, and they could have it. So 956 01:13:14.479 --> 01:13:16.079 I had a decision to what do I do. Do I leave it there, 957 01:13:16.119 --> 01:13:20.199 thinking don't touch or do I think someone kindly left it for me there? 958 01:13:20.359 --> 01:13:24.199 Or is it a matter of high strangers? So I thought, well, 959 01:13:24.319 --> 01:13:27.319 okay, I'll put it in my car. Put it in my car, 960 01:13:27.640 --> 01:13:30.800 start to drive home along that same road. But I'm now a bit 961 01:13:30.840 --> 01:13:36.239 more towards the boys' school driving along that road, and I'd had an experience 962 01:13:36.600 --> 01:13:44.640 a couple of nights before with another experiencer called Suzanne Chancellor, and we used 963 01:13:44.640 --> 01:13:49.199 to talk on Skype and stuff, and in a conversation she said something and 964 01:13:49.960 --> 01:13:55.840 what she said on about she could see me. Now, I remember driving 965 01:13:55.960 --> 01:14:00.920 around this will be apparently minute. I remember driving around the corner because it 966 01:14:00.039 --> 01:14:04.119 was something to do with We talked about owls, all right, Remember driving 967 01:14:04.119 --> 01:14:06.840 around the corner and then all of a sudden, it's dark at night, 968 01:14:06.920 --> 01:14:10.960 right, it was in the winter times, but it was dark, and 969 01:14:11.319 --> 01:14:15.000 I here, Susan in my head, I can see you. And then 970 01:14:15.159 --> 01:14:20.920 boom, right on my windscreen, a fat, big owl bounced on my 971 01:14:21.000 --> 01:14:26.079 windscreen and went off to the right hand side, and I was distraught. 972 01:14:26.159 --> 01:14:29.279 I was like, oh my god, that's an owl. That's an owl. 973 01:14:29.479 --> 01:14:31.000 I pulled the car over in the middle of nowhere, right down a 974 01:14:31.039 --> 01:14:34.680 country lane. I pulled the car over and I got out, and I 975 01:14:34.760 --> 01:14:38.359 thought, oh my god, I've got I got my phone out. I 976 01:14:38.479 --> 01:14:41.199 put this torch on it. I tried to see if I could see it. 977 01:14:41.239 --> 01:14:44.159 I tried to see if I could hear anything flap in any movement. 978 01:14:44.520 --> 01:14:48.560 The grass was quite tall. I couldn't see it. Distraught, upset that 979 01:14:48.760 --> 01:14:51.800 oh my god, I hope this owl's okay. I mean, to the 980 01:14:51.840 --> 01:14:56.199 point I'll go back to my own look. I got back in my car, 981 01:14:56.640 --> 01:14:59.840 drove home, which wasn't far. It was, you know, maybe 982 01:14:59.840 --> 01:15:03.079 a maybe two three miles away, back to the place that I had this 983 01:15:03.199 --> 01:15:08.079 big, massive light that me and my son's drove back in print scanner in 984 01:15:08.119 --> 01:15:10.560 the car next to me. I kept looking at it as if to say, 985 01:15:10.600 --> 01:15:15.800 this is just odd because it's the same like vicinity as a lot of 986 01:15:15.840 --> 01:15:20.039 my Ufon counters. And I get my son out, or I tell him, 987 01:15:20.079 --> 01:15:23.359 I said, listen, you know, I told him about the Prince 988 01:15:23.439 --> 01:15:27.079 scanner. And then someone's well, something's put something next to my thing, 989 01:15:27.119 --> 01:15:30.359 and he goes, Mum, do not let it in the house. Do 990 01:15:30.560 --> 01:15:32.920 not bring that in the house. And he's a film buffer, you know, 991 01:15:32.920 --> 01:15:36.000 I love my movies. And he kind of put it down to like 992 01:15:36.079 --> 01:15:41.239 the film Poltergeist with carry Anne and the dad in the in the sort of 993 01:15:41.319 --> 01:15:45.039 like the end scene when they take them back to the hotel room. That's 994 01:15:45.079 --> 01:15:48.279 the first thing they removed from it is the television, so she don't get 995 01:15:48.279 --> 01:15:51.479 sucked into the TV game, right, or Ian made it very clear, 996 01:15:51.600 --> 01:15:55.960 Mum, that is not coming into the house, because it was just a 997 01:15:56.079 --> 01:15:59.520 very strange house. There's one other thing that happened in that house in the 998 01:15:59.560 --> 01:16:02.319 same way. I was in bed. We were all in bed, and 999 01:16:02.439 --> 01:16:04.920 the little kids in the other room are in another room, and then all 1000 01:16:04.920 --> 01:16:12.479 of a sudden one time I heard footsteps so clear on the tiled floor downstairs, 1001 01:16:12.600 --> 01:16:16.359 to the point of you knew how many steps were being made before it 1002 01:16:16.479 --> 01:16:21.560 hit the bottom. Those stairs were then carpeted. So I heard these steps 1003 01:16:21.760 --> 01:16:28.399 and I'm downstairs thinking what someone's in the house. Then I heard it go 1004 01:16:28.600 --> 01:16:34.039 quiet. I could calculate how many steps, and then I heard a step 1005 01:16:34.520 --> 01:16:41.439 that was then onto the wooden floor and then stepped into my children's room, 1006 01:16:41.800 --> 01:16:46.760 young kids room. I got up so fast out of that bed, ran 1007 01:16:46.840 --> 01:16:53.439 into the bedroom and my youngest son at the time, he was bolt upright 1008 01:16:53.520 --> 01:16:57.960 in his bed. I switched the light on. He was sat bolt upright 1009 01:16:58.000 --> 01:17:00.560 in bed. I just grabbed him and took him into my bedroom, and 1010 01:17:00.600 --> 01:17:04.079 then I woke my son up Ryan, my daughter was staying away at the 1011 01:17:04.119 --> 01:17:09.760 time. That was really unusual. That was another really unusual one. The 1012 01:17:09.840 --> 01:17:14.760 high strangeness never ends to our listeners. If you'd like to hear more from 1013 01:17:14.840 --> 01:17:19.960 Bridget, you can find her on The Naked Truth on the unex network KUNX, 1014 01:17:20.439 --> 01:17:26.399 which airs eight pm East of Standard Time. Correct wonderful and it's a 1015 01:17:26.439 --> 01:17:30.000 weekly show. Yes it is. Yeah, I've had some fantastic guests on 1016 01:17:30.039 --> 01:17:31.800 so far, and you know, I'd only be doing it. I don't 1017 01:17:31.840 --> 01:17:34.279 know. Maybe I think it's about ten eleven times. You know, I've 1018 01:17:34.279 --> 01:17:41.520 had Richard Doughty, Nick Pope, Steve Bassett, Andrew Gough, Ted Rowe, 1019 01:17:41.800 --> 01:17:45.720 Mike Cleland because then I went into Mike Cleveland's books about the owl scenario, 1020 01:17:45.920 --> 01:17:51.399 Glenn Speckland, that's from the He's from the Dansky Foundation. So far, 1021 01:17:51.800 --> 01:17:57.000 that's so far. I mean, I've got some great lineup of experiences 1022 01:17:57.159 --> 01:18:01.680 and researchers. So I feel like really blessed her given this opportunity. Indeed, 1023 01:18:01.920 --> 01:18:06.239 I will put all links to Bridget in the description. For me, 1024 01:18:06.760 --> 01:18:15.560 even listening to people's encounters, it touches home definitely more so now as Nick, 1025 01:18:15.800 --> 01:18:17.720 let's say, twenty six years ago, when me and you were doing 1026 01:18:17.800 --> 01:18:21.239 all of what we were doing back then. Wow, how it is now 1027 01:18:21.279 --> 01:18:26.439 in the last couple of years, and how exciting even the beginning of this 1028 01:18:26.520 --> 01:18:30.439 year to now how it's speeding up for all of us, and just really 1029 01:18:30.640 --> 01:18:34.039 trying so hard to say, come on, military. You know, it's 1030 01:18:34.039 --> 01:18:38.880 funny because I didn't even say anything to you about I got arrested at Area 1031 01:18:38.920 --> 01:18:45.119 fifty one, and that in itself was probably one of the scariest experiences I've 1032 01:18:45.159 --> 01:18:49.199 had. When you've got a gun pointing at your head on the floor at 1033 01:18:49.439 --> 01:18:54.640 I went underneath the gates at Area fifty one with a load of people and 1034 01:18:55.000 --> 01:18:58.920 it all went very, very very wrong. Did they charge you with tresperson 1035 01:18:59.319 --> 01:19:01.640 Yes, yeah they did it. Yeah I got the charge. The BBC 1036 01:19:01.720 --> 01:19:08.399 paid it. Six hours, well probably about five hours gunpoint on the floor, 1037 01:19:08.600 --> 01:19:11.960 freezing cold as it got colder and colder throughout the night. Right. 1038 01:19:12.199 --> 01:19:16.880 I was asked to do a BBC documentary's available in some countries and not others 1039 01:19:17.079 --> 01:19:21.680 called UFO Conspiracy Road Trip. It is linked on my website if anyone wants 1040 01:19:21.720 --> 01:19:25.239 to go and look at it. We started in Los Angeles. They took 1041 01:19:25.319 --> 01:19:29.079 me back to where I had my UFO encounter, which was remarkable being back 1042 01:19:29.119 --> 01:19:33.239 there and just seeing the change in the road and various things. And then 1043 01:19:33.239 --> 01:19:36.920 we did a road trip from We did their Route sixty six all the way 1044 01:19:38.000 --> 01:19:43.520 up to go to Vegas. So along the way we met some amazing people. 1045 01:19:43.760 --> 01:19:46.640 When we got to Area fifty one, we went with a went with 1046 01:19:46.680 --> 01:19:53.039 a comedian. The comedian was the host of the show and he basically said, 1047 01:19:53.239 --> 01:19:57.600 let's dance into Area fifty one right now. If you've everyone seen the 1048 01:19:57.600 --> 01:20:00.399 photographs of Area fifty one, right at the gate, the little hut gates 1049 01:20:00.399 --> 01:20:03.680 that are there and the bit that lifts up. Well, there was a 1050 01:20:03.680 --> 01:20:05.479 load of us. We were on the bus. We got out of the 1051 01:20:05.479 --> 01:20:10.319 bus. It's beautiful, broad daylight in the afternoon. Right we go in. 1052 01:20:10.560 --> 01:20:15.520 Andrew Maxwell was the Irish comedian that was the host, and he was 1053 01:20:15.640 --> 01:20:18.079 fantastic. He put humor in every part of the way. It was a 1054 01:20:18.079 --> 01:20:23.520 bit like put your foot underneath, no lasers, take my leg off, 1055 01:20:23.640 --> 01:20:27.159 right, So we thought, right, let's go in. Pretty Much all 1056 01:20:27.199 --> 01:20:32.359 of us ducked under except for two. One ran back to the big bus 1057 01:20:32.359 --> 01:20:35.600 that we were on, and then the driver stayed in the bus. So 1058 01:20:35.680 --> 01:20:40.319 now we're underneath that up the arm that lifts up to allow vehicles in. 1059 01:20:40.439 --> 01:20:44.239 We're now underneath there. And what's on the ground, sprayed on the ground, 1060 01:20:44.279 --> 01:20:47.039 printed on the ground is chevron's right, so you've got chevrons there and 1061 01:20:47.079 --> 01:20:50.840 you can see them. We were just being really stupid. So now we're 1062 01:20:50.920 --> 01:20:56.319 underneath that part and then we can see the huts to the right hand side. 1063 01:20:56.560 --> 01:21:00.640 We're like, okay, wow, this is bloody easy. Are going 1064 01:21:00.680 --> 01:21:04.399 on about, you know, resting in area fifty one and then you could 1065 01:21:04.399 --> 01:21:09.600 see way off in the distance, the cars, the truck starting to move, 1066 01:21:09.720 --> 01:21:12.720 and like, we just see it. We don't think anything of it. 1067 01:21:12.880 --> 01:21:16.319 And Barney Broomfield was the cameraman at the time, and we were giggling 1068 01:21:16.359 --> 01:21:21.119 and laughing, excited, wow underneath it. So Barney goes, well, 1069 01:21:21.199 --> 01:21:27.079 let's go and knock on the door. I am as high as a kite 1070 01:21:27.159 --> 01:21:30.800 on enthusiasm at that point. I'm like, yeah, come on, let's 1071 01:21:30.800 --> 01:21:33.119 do it. So I suppose I'm the troublemaker at that point, so I 1072 01:21:33.199 --> 01:21:36.960 said, come on. So we go to the door. There's a little 1073 01:21:36.960 --> 01:21:42.319 step up to the door, and it's a little garden hut and it had 1074 01:21:42.439 --> 01:21:47.279 a window which had blinds in it, and the blinds were slightly open. 1075 01:21:47.880 --> 01:21:53.680 I looked in. I could see two blokes sitting down, one's eating something, 1076 01:21:53.880 --> 01:21:57.720 and the TV's on and this baseball great security. Barney. Then I 1077 01:21:57.720 --> 01:21:59.680 don't know if he puts the camera down or if he's got it in his 1078 01:21:59.760 --> 01:22:03.960 an. He knocks on the door. Well, within seconds, all of 1079 01:22:04.000 --> 01:22:08.600 a sudden, these two blokes come out on the floor, now on the 1080 01:22:08.600 --> 01:22:11.359 floor and out to about some night of us right on the floor and out 1081 01:22:11.359 --> 01:22:13.960 on the floor and out. So we just like moved back a little bit 1082 01:22:14.359 --> 01:22:16.039 on the floor. I turn around. Everything out of your pockets, everything 1083 01:22:16.039 --> 01:22:17.760 out of your pockets, phone on the floor, phone on the floor. 1084 01:22:17.880 --> 01:22:20.439 My phone goes down on the floor. Everyone's phones go down. All or 1085 01:22:20.479 --> 01:22:23.840 whatever we've got on the things lie down the floor, on the floor, 1086 01:22:23.840 --> 01:22:27.840 and out on the floor. Out these two guys of then over us. 1087 01:22:28.119 --> 01:22:33.119 And then I am telling you, Nick, they come from below, no 1088 01:22:33.680 --> 01:22:39.840 other way of saying it, because we even though this truck's coming down, 1089 01:22:40.119 --> 01:22:43.880 I forget about the truck at that point from there, because they're coming from 1090 01:22:43.920 --> 01:22:45.680 behind me. Because now we're all on the floor in a row on the 1091 01:22:45.680 --> 01:22:49.079 floor, now split apart on the floor now, and we're like meats and 1092 01:22:49.199 --> 01:22:54.680 meters apart from each other. No touch in space, No can't hold hands, 1093 01:22:54.800 --> 01:22:59.039 you know, nothing like that. They came from that hut underground. 1094 01:22:59.439 --> 01:23:02.479 They came. There must have been I don't know how many of them came 1095 01:23:02.560 --> 01:23:06.680 up. We all each had one next to us pointing guns at our heads 1096 01:23:06.920 --> 01:23:10.920 at that point, and then more came. So then you had the vans 1097 01:23:10.960 --> 01:23:14.680 come. There was a lot of them running round. I mean literally, 1098 01:23:14.720 --> 01:23:17.800 we have our cheeks to the floor. We're looking one way, all of 1099 01:23:17.880 --> 01:23:24.199 us no talking, and at that point it is shit, this isn't good. 1100 01:23:24.399 --> 01:23:28.439 Andrew Maxwell trying to be the comedian, trying to say something stop you 1101 01:23:28.520 --> 01:23:31.600 know, no talking, you know, and our phones got kicked away. 1102 01:23:32.000 --> 01:23:36.560 They took our phones and I at that point of oh shit, oh my 1103 01:23:36.600 --> 01:23:40.560 god, this is this is a problem, right, this is huge problem. 1104 01:23:41.199 --> 01:23:47.760 Becky the camel lady cryingy sterical. We're all in shock and it's cold 1105 01:23:47.800 --> 01:23:50.439 on the floor, lying on the floor. I mean I'm in shorts and 1106 01:23:50.479 --> 01:23:54.039 a T shirt, right, and you can feel the grip, you know, 1107 01:23:54.279 --> 01:23:58.920 uncomfortable and nasty. And then bit by bit we were then allowed to 1108 01:23:59.319 --> 01:24:03.560 sit up face the same direction which would have been pointing out towards the gate 1109 01:24:03.600 --> 01:24:08.239 that we came in, Rachel Gate out where we came in. Bit by 1110 01:24:08.319 --> 01:24:14.479 bet we were allowed to speak, so they basically spoke to us, you 1111 01:24:14.520 --> 01:24:16.720 know where from what we're doing here. Part of BBC gave them all the 1112 01:24:16.760 --> 01:24:21.920 details. The director was one of the ones that got arrested with us as 1113 01:24:21.960 --> 01:24:28.079 well. He gave them all of the details and their big video cameras that 1114 01:24:28.119 --> 01:24:30.960 they used got taken away. Some of us wanting to go to the toilet. 1115 01:24:31.199 --> 01:24:35.359 We got taken to the toilet and went out, and then I gave 1116 01:24:35.399 --> 01:24:43.920 them my identification and then then the local police officer for Rachel then comes and 1117 01:24:44.039 --> 01:24:48.880 gives you a fine, and you're there for absolutely ages going through all of 1118 01:24:48.920 --> 01:24:54.239 the details, and I think it came to I think it was about six 1119 01:24:54.359 --> 01:24:59.439 seven hundred bucks each, all right, which is a lot considering all of 1120 01:24:59.520 --> 01:25:01.159 us. We'll have into you know, the BBC, We're going to have 1121 01:25:01.199 --> 01:25:05.159 to pay for all of this. That the craziest didn't stopped there then it 1122 01:25:05.439 --> 01:25:10.399 was there there now to piss us off. So that night we stayed in 1123 01:25:10.720 --> 01:25:16.199 a lodges, beautiful little lodges where we had cars patrolling the lodges. When 1124 01:25:16.239 --> 01:25:19.640 we were all released from underneath it and all got given our tickets, we 1125 01:25:19.640 --> 01:25:24.640 were then drove off. Can we believe that what's just happened to us? 1126 01:25:24.720 --> 01:25:29.840 And that night we were patrolled. That next day we were patrolled as well, 1127 01:25:30.079 --> 01:25:33.960 to the point of ridiculous. A truck would come up to us, 1128 01:25:34.199 --> 01:25:38.840 get out, point a camera in our face, take a picture, get 1129 01:25:38.880 --> 01:25:43.199 back in again. It was absolutely stupid, really what they went through just 1130 01:25:43.239 --> 01:25:47.119 to say, you know, play with our minds Tresparce or military installation as 1131 01:25:47.119 --> 01:25:50.319 you do. But you know, you can't be a youthologist and not have 1132 01:25:50.439 --> 01:25:54.880 that and milk, can you. You should definitely get that framed, put 1133 01:25:54.920 --> 01:26:00.479 it up on the wall. Trespassing on the government installation. To our listeners, 1134 01:26:00.720 --> 01:26:03.279 if you're doing the touristy thing and you're heading out to Area fifty one 1135 01:26:03.560 --> 01:26:06.479 or do or maybe you're on spring break, you know, in the next 1136 01:26:06.560 --> 01:26:11.239 couple of weeks, take heed as can be very cold at night in the 1137 01:26:11.319 --> 01:26:15.760 desert and you could come away with four hundred even more dollar. Fine, 1138 01:26:15.920 --> 01:26:19.680 please, listeners take in my madness and all of the other people that were 1139 01:26:19.680 --> 01:26:24.039 involved in the madness. Now, don't do it because do you know what 1140 01:26:24.319 --> 01:26:27.319 one dangerous? I don't want a gunpointed at my head every game. And 1141 01:26:28.279 --> 01:26:30.560 yeah, it's very real, wonderful stuff. Well, good luck with the 1142 01:26:30.680 --> 01:26:35.359 Naked Truth on the ALEX Network. All right, it's been wonderful speaking with 1143 01:26:35.439 --> 01:26:39.880 you. You're most welcome. Thank you, Nick. I really appreciate you 1144 01:26:39.920 --> 01:26:43.680 coming on sharing that for our listeners. Keep in contact, all right, 1145 01:26:43.760 --> 01:26:45.479 and I will be in touch. Yeah, thank you Nick. All right, 1146 01:26:45.520 --> 01:26:49.159 bye, nex right bye. That is all for this week. Keep 1147 01:26:49.279 --> 01:26:55.159 updated and connected with the show on x Facebook and Instagram. And if you 1148 01:26:55.199 --> 01:26:58.800 have an encounter that you'd like to share on the podcast, you can email 1149 01:26:58.920 --> 01:27:02.680 me at uf chronicles at gmail dot com, or you can reach out to 1150 01:27:02.720 --> 01:27:09.039 me via the contact page on my website UFO Chronicles podcast dot com. A 1151 01:27:09.159 --> 01:27:13.079 big fangy, a bridget for sharing tonight, and thank you all for listening. 1152 01:27:13.479 --> 01:27:17.199 I will be back next week. Till then, stay safe and keep 1153 01:27:17.239 --> 01:28:03.079 watching us Gies. Goodbye to