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from from the future. A few
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hiatus. We're so excited. In
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covering the Bell, which Mikey's going
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three three five three four one one. Now that we have thought of the

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way, I will let mo from
the past take it away. Today is

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our yearly Q and A episode where
we discuss all the ridiculous questions that we

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have saved up throughout the year,
et cetera, et cetera. We just

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got back from our vacation, so
if we're a little MESSI also Moe desperately

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wants to be watching critical role.
So that is factual. Everything you said

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is true. So we are going
to jump right in with the Q and

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A questions because that's what the whole
episode is. Why would we not do

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that? I will ask the first
question, if you could speak to one

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deceased person for thirty seconds, who
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It's just thirty seconds, so so
sure, I'm not even sure the

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point of it besides like, oh
hi, Grandma, you're dead, I

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love you, I mean, or
it's asking like a burning question. Thirty

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seconds is short. Okay, let's
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anyways. Revised question. Revised question. Let's say thirty minutes. Okay,

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so that's very different it is.
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it would definitely be my grandpa,
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anything in particular than just wanting to
have another conversation with him, you know.

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But if it was thirty seconds,
I definitely would ask somebody who's murdered,

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Like who fucking murdered them? I
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Also, my perfect answer it would
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be asking somebody that was murdered.
Who murdered them? Yeah, it would

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definitely be like Alena Chapman or Sequoia, Like I would definitely reach out to

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one of them and be like,
what the fuck happened? Yeah, it's

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got to be something like that,
because it can't be someone who was killed

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by a serial killer because they probably
don't know him. Yeah, the types

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of serial killers? Right, Yeah, I don't know. I'll go with

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those answers by default thirty minutes if
whoever? Oh adam, all right,

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So this question. If you were
cursed to go on an all expense paid

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cruise with the are you serial killers? Who would they be? So here

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is the setup, the caveats.
You get to choose who, but you

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have to hang out with them the
entire cruise. They cannot kill you,

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but if given the chance, they
can kill others. Who do you go

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on the cruise with? And how
do you navigate them being a killer?

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I'm going to I mean, is
this assuming that they are a serial killer

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if they haven't been proven that they
are a serial killer? Like, can

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I use who are you about to
call out as a serial killer who's not

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a verified serial killer? Or do
you mean like broad general sense like we

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don't know who it is, but
like the well, now we know who

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the Golden State killer is, but
at the time being, like the Countess

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is what I'm referred to. Okay, Elizabeth Bathory. Elizabeth Bathory would be

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one of mine, but wasn't she
technically convicted technically Yeah, yeah, So

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I'm going with Elizabeth Bathory, Ted
Bundy, and Jack the Ripper because that

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level of insanity. I want to
pick that brain. See, I'm trying

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to figure out who's the easiest to
babysit japs. And I had the thought

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of someone who would, like,
you know, some queen poisons all her

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husbands or whatever, but that is
you let take your eye off of her

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for one second and the food is
poisoned. The whole buffets did, So

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that's not going to work either.
I feel like she had motives though,

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right do you think she would kill
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ex husband thing. I didn't have
a specific one of mine, just you

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know, they're definitely women who have
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I'm going definitely h Holmes, okay, and probably Vlad the Impaler,

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which I feel like definitely counts yeah, I would say it counts. I

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don't know who my third is yet, but I figure, like, if

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I have to be around these people
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who I think are interesting. John
Wayne Gacy because he had such a type

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that I can just keep him isolated
from guys, young guys. That's that's

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fair. He would be easy to
isolate, we said, a babysitting at

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the Evil Baby orphanage. That's basically
what it is, like, how do

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you navigate? Like you lock them
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to navigate. I feel like unless
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no way, Like we're required to
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So no matter what, we have
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have to hang out with Yeah,
but we can like hang out with him

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in our locked cabin, right,
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through the door. So that's how
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with Violet Jessup, the woman who
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Britannic and it all circles back.
Just go there, don't act like you

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don't want to jump right on his
BANDWIDP, I want to jump so fast?

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Is it it's technically you're killing?
If it's multiple mass murders, I'm

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kind of pissed out and come up
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you, all right, hip,
you pick one. If you could switch

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lives with any one person for the
day, who do you choose? We're

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saying a twenty four hour period midnight
to midnight has to be living. I

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feel like this answer fluctuates based on
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but the answer is always whoever is
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And I think it's because I want
to know exactly how much they really

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know about everything that's going on the
government, and like the President's book and

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all that bullshit, and how much
is like actually being run by super PACs

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and shit that the president has no
idea what's happening. It was also thinking

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the president in who can I choose? Who will be the most efficient to

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change something like I have one day
to work on shit? Right? Will

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you just fire half your cabinet and
install a new cabinet? And there's thirteen

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Supreme Court justices and you're like,
what can I fuck up as quickly?

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As possible, or I bet I
just get some documents and just release them

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to the public, Just get that
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my original thought was like Queen Elizabeth, because I just think that if I'm

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going to find out the most amount
of information from the world, it's probably

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through the Queen. Maybe I'm not
considering the queen because then you get to

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say I abdicate, I end the
royal line. You could just do that,

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Yeah, you could, Mikey.
Mikey does have a point. I

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feel like the Queen knows the like
really antique secrets that would be like scandals

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now, but like they wouldn't be
a huge political leverage. It's like,

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sure, tell the world what we
did in nineteen sixty two, they'll forget

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about it by the next day,
by the next news cycle. But could

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you also imagine the amount of influence
you would have if you if you wanted

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to say something to the world and
you were Queen Elizabeth, you could say

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it. That's fair. I feel
like what you said, no matter how

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political it was, it would be
seen as less political than having come from

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any other world leader. Weirdly,
than being just as political and manipulating every

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Yes, just as much. They
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hold a substantial amount of actual political
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in the most technical sense, right, yeah, so people see them as

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like the queen would never the Queen
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I think in a general sense from
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because I don't know who else would, but yeah, there's something there.

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Yeah, and and honestly, it's
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the approval rating of political leaders is
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but nobody the world views the Queen
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Like if you were going to say
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And it's about it's about the audience
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that's true, Poth. I think
it also has to do with like now

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versus ten years ago, though,
I feel like, especially when we were

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children, the kind of pull that
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just the entire royal families. Like
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It is a core memory for me. There were people in the streets

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sobbing. I was in Canada at
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okay, I was like in Detroit, just losing their absolute marbles, sobbing

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in the street. Which Princess Diana's
death is absolutely tragic, but the way

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that I was watching people respond to
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Canada, it was Niagara Falls.
We got the tourists and some of them

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are British. Yeah, the various
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still are extremely British. Yeah what
Canada is. It's complicated. But

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yeah, I'm now backed up on
the Queen. Even if you can only

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leak certain information, I do want
to say what happened to Princess Diana,

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just to stir the pot. Even
if I say something fake it's fun.

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I'm still going with the president.
But it's because I'm selfish. I want

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to know all the information for me
versus I feel like the kind of information

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I want to know is the kind
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has, versus trying to inform of
a very specific thing. And then I

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would want to be the queen.
Jeff Bezos give myself fifty one percent of

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Amazon Perfect being Nick Chip, Who
the fuck am I if famous people president

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or our guest queen? Now,
I'd rather the president not famous person or

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a small famous person. Mike Champagne, you don't want to be bikey way,

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it's so much not a work day. I think you'd quit before the

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day was. It's it's not about
what Mikey thinks. It's about it's about

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like, how do you get anything
done when somebody's stopping you every five feet

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to say hi? Like, how
do you get things done? That's why

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I don't want to be bikey.
Just one day, not so up in

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lives, no prince pauper. Just
the one day just feels exhausting. Yeah,

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So I'm gonna do this highly kind
of philosophical bullshit now because I'm already

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on the precipice of not being able
to answer whatever the fuck this is.

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So I've always been fascinated by the
phenomenon or whether the connection between male serial

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killers and sexual dysfunction. We're off
to a strong fucking start. How do

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you think that that's been affected by
the current social climate? While it feels

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like there's more toxic masculinity than ever, I sometimes that we're more aware of

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it because of social media. Have
numbers gone up or down in recent years?

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Has the amount of visibility affected serial
killers ability to operate while maintaining under

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the radar. This isn't a research
episode, Bud. Let's talk about the

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connection between mail serial killers and sexual
dysfunction. How do we think that's been

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affected by the current social climate.
I think that there is entire four Chan

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boards that are currently producing serial killers
that never would have been serial killers.

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I think that the Internet makes it
very easy to radicalize people that otherwise might

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have never become radicalized. I think
that it's one radicalization of the Internet in

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general, like that we see with
all various things from q and on to

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sections of four Chan, tow sections
of Reddit to whatever. It feeds into

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a certain kind of obsession that then
makes you become radicalized. And we don't

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talk about how easy it is for
normal people to become radicalized by disinformation,

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because brainwashing, not even disinformation,
but a plethora of information as well could

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tip the scales. I mean,
if you are solely concentrating and looking up

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rape and violence and rape and violence
and rape and violence and rape and violence

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and like, yeah, I mean
it could go either way. Too much

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information can be harmful, you know
what I mean. Well, and the

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way that information is presented to you
exactly. Like I can cite off a

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statistic and say like nine of X, Y and Z things blah blah blah.

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But but there could be caveats to
that. That could be nine percent

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of a very specific like the women
and Chili and versus like the women in

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the world. Well, you can
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but it's so out of place that
the context of it is completely lost.

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Its Yeah, there's no such thing
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just the way you word things changes
things significantly. Yeah, and not to

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mention that news and social media in
general are is completely negative in comparison to

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the real like world. You know, I'm like, I know that there's

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a lot of negative ship happening in
the world, but it's far more reproported

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than positive. And that's that goes
along with everything. You know, how

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many positive experiences happen at that fast
food McDonald's, but how many reviews are

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negative? Yeah. I just said
to Michael, Michael read something to me,

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you know, some open ended clickbait
shit, and both I said I

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don't want to know. At the
same time, and I looked at him,

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I said, I just want one
day where I don't hear some catastrophically

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unprecedented bad thing. I just want
a day. That's where I'm at mentally.

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is also part of this and what
gets people to click shit. But if

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you only had a couple hours to
a lot, you'll only pick the things

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that matter as opposed to every little
fucking thing. Oh well. Also,

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you have to think about negative news
and it how you perceive it. So

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if you're channel surfing and you pass
a news station and it's like puppies and

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kittens are getting adopted today at Blake
Farms, your brain doesn't stop and actually

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give a shit about that good thing. But if they say a serial killer

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is on the loose, or X
Y and z A just sentenced to fifteen

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years in prison or whatever you r
Kelly thirty years in prison, Galaine Maxwell,

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what is it? Twenty years in
prison? Like, these are things

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I know, but I couldn't tell
you absolutely anything else that happened in the

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last several days. But I can
tell you those things because those are the

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things that you see that you stop
for that people talk about. Yeah,

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and it's in like ingrained in our
culture to become part of our anatomy almost

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in a sense, like you're saying
reward and punishment and you know what I

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mean, like that your brain doing
those things, and it's about what's upsetting

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the norm, right, Yeah,
exactly what is currently upsetting the norm and

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therefore what is for cultural safety out
of place? And it makes you stop

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and it makes you pay attention to
it and think of all the bad things.

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But I mean, also with all
of this, a lot of it

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is also just evolutionary. A false
positive is always better than a false negative

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in your survival context in this sort
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the situation. But so you know, it's just now our brains are built

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for I'm in a forest being eaten
by a lion versus has social media on

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the Internet provided resources for predators to
stock and victims. Absolutely, Also technology

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in general, like Apple tagging,
how easy it is to sex traffic is

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a totally different world compared to what
it would about. Oh yeah, I

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mean the telephone is a technology that
has made it easier to stock people.

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So yeah, of course the internet
has too. There's also an element of

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like how normalized things are, right, like we talk about people facebook stocking,

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like you hear a story about from
your friends, it's like, Oh,

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this girl at work, Sharon.
You know everything about Sharon. And

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then eventually you're like, I need
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then you're on Sharon's Facebook profile and
you're like, this seems like you would

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do this, Sharon. You're right, fucking Sharon. Fucking Sharon. So

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there is this other element of part
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to easily obsess over things and get
the gratification of like actually being able to

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figure out what a person it might
be like, or thinking based on what

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they post where they've went. It's
it's weird, like culturally weird. Well

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it's it's so easy too, like
not to like, you know, put

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anything or anybody on blast, but
like it's so easy now to see where

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somebody works from their Facebook profile and
just go in there, yeah and see

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them. I mean, Patreon,
man, some of these questions are just

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bringing me down, Like who's death
hits you the hardest? What's your biggest

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bro? No, what is one
fact that you wish the entire world would

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know instantaneously and they could not fight
it? It would they knew in their

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head that it was a fact,
because it is. I feel like I'm

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an a complete disadvantage. I feel
like this is something that you've like went

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to sleep thinking about. No,
I did it. I don't even know

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what happened, but I don't remember
my answer. I don't know what the

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answer would be. I think I
know what mine was. Okay, please

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go. He went to sleep thinking
about this. Every single living thing on

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this planet has ninety eight percent of
the same DNA, So a blade of

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grass and a human being are more
alike than they are different by ninety eight

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percent. And I think that that
would be so profound for people to actually

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know in their head. And I
think it would cause a lot of ignorance

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and discrimination and fear to just be
wiped out. See, mine is a

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fact that I feel like everybody knows, but I really wanted to seep into

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their consciousness. Does that count?
Yeah, that's exactly what I mean.

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Like they have no they can't negate
it in any way, shape or form,

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Like there's no doubt, no doubt
whatsoever. I everyone to realize that

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society's rules and are cultural rules,
everybody's cultural rules, no matter what country

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they're in is absolutely meaningless. Now
do without whatever you want. Everything is

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a social construct. It has to
be worded as like one sentence. That's

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exactly what I'm looking for, Like, I just want everyone to realize that

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you are on a rock, floating
in space, going to a job to

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make paper to pay for a structure
made out of materials. Please absorb that,

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and now tell me that it's like
really important that boys don't wear pink,

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Like it just doesn't make any sense
at all. And I just think

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everybody needs to realize that, like
the rules are made up and the points

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don't matter. There's a lot of
room for interpretation of that sentence. I

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think that's this is genie and about
no. I want them to feel my

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intent, though, but I want
that to be the thing that rings in

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their head. I support this emotion. I don't know about the sentence.

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I'm trying to think of something the
one percent literally owns ninety nine percent of

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the earth. Yeah, I don't
know how to what specific statistic, but

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something like that that coupled with the
everything is a social constructors the sentence.

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I want same question, but something
silly, like something that like grinds your

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gears that people don't know. No, no, well, I'm laughing.

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The currency in Pokemon is poke yen. It's not that you're spending one hundred

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dollars on this potion. You're spending
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Think of again as like a penny. So no, that it doesn't

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cost five hundred dollars for a single
poke bowl cost five bucks. The symbol

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is even based on the yen's symbol. I want everyone to know every kind

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of shark. Yeah, and then
we can talk about shark because I know

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every kind of shark on this whole
time. Mine is using salt on a

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beer napkin to keep it cold,
No, to get it to not stick

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to your napkin. You know,
people put salt down on their napkins so

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that they put their beer dow fucking
lily. I know no one that does

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that. I am not a person
that time. Across America, bartenders have

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been putting salt on beverage napkins so
that their beers don't stick to their napkin

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when they go to drink it.
Right, every drink dumb and I hate

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it, but okay, but the
thing is salt and water condensation from your

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glass. What happens to salt when
it gets wet, it dissolves, and

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then the napkin is sticking to your
fucking beer even worse than it would have

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been. You're supposed to use pepper, assholes, fucking pepper. Why are

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we seasoning or napkins? I'm too
white for this. But if you put

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pepper on your beverage napkin, you
can set your glass down no matter how

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wet it gets, and it will
never stick. I mean, pepper must

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dissolve at some temperature, does not
room temperature. Okay, great, I'm

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glad we have this talked. It
was trying to lighten the mood, you

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know. So what are some of
your favorite words? So, beverage is

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one of mine. Actual just saying
the word beverage. It's reserved for like

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gaze and my great aunt Nita,
like that's who uses the word beverage.

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Like some old southern lady maybe says
the word beverage, but like dal hand

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me a beverage, like beverage a
plot, No, honey, let me

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get you a beverage. It just
it's a great word. I mean,

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I love moist because people are so
weird about it. No, yeah,

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totally. I love moist because people
are weird about it. We all really

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love to make people uncomfortable, so
that does not surprise me. My favorite

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word is minion because one time in
middle school, this is long before the

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Minions existed, took the word from
me. I don't remember why, but

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a bunch of us were just,
you know, gathered in a group,

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like waiting for something to start or
whatever, and the teacher couldn't get everyone's

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attention, and I just shouted minion
and everyone fell silent, and I was

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like, yes, power. I
also enjoy the word correct, but it

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has to be pronounced all of the
syllables, enunciation, enunciated, uncheated.

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I like anything with a why.
I don't know why. It's a high

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fantasy thing. Yeah it's a fantasy. Yeah, it's definitely. It's definitely.

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Where can I put a why?
Where? If you like D and

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D or a Lord of the rings? If you like those things, you

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like whys like the letter why?
You like to spell things with why,

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if your trans your name is either
a word one syllable with something replaced with

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a why. I feel like if
all theater kids could rename themselves, it

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would be the same vibe. The
vibes are immaculate. I don't know how

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it's to explain it, like lyrical. I like that word. That's nice.

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It's got a wine in it.
I like it. If you could

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destroy an artificial flavor from existence,
what would it be? Grape? Take

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it back, God, this is
controversial. It shouldn't be called great,

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or should be called purple. It
tastes nothing like a grape. Apple doesn't

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taste anything like apple strawbery. No
banana tastes like extinct banana. But mine

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is definitely. Peach is number one. Artificial peach is disgusting. I love

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everywhere um, but banana is probably
number two. Well, that's because they're

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banana apocalypse bananas. There's one of
my facts. I don't want everyone to

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know. That's silly about the banana
apocalypse. Yeah, what's the banana apocalypse?

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The artificial banana flavor is modeled after
a banana that no longer exists.

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All bananas used to taste a certain
way, and then disease blah blah blah.

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There's some kind of blight and all
of the bananas and the entire breathes

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did that entire breath and our Carbonanas
are very at risk for this too.

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Bananas are poorly bread my flavor.
I'm going with his green apple. That's

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fair. Yeah, I think I'm
going to switch my vote to green apple.

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Really yeah, I like that.
I like that move because grapes should

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be said. I didn't say that
I hated purple. It's just purple.

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It's great bagel. Grape is purple. Blue raspberry doesn't exist blue. There's

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no blue raspberries. I imagine that's
what a blue raspberry taste like, not

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like purple. I don't think that
tastes like blue. Watermelon does not taste

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like watermelon. Do not like grape
flavor? You just think you just you

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like purple, but you're annoyed by
the name. Yeah, strawberry fake strawberry

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still has enough of a taste like
strawberry, whereas great taste nothing like great.

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How has your perspective of the world
changed since doing this podcast? I'll

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go first, a lot more jaded, I guess, I really I don't

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know. I knew fucked up ship
happened a lot. But I think when

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you're doing a podcast and you're researching
them weekly and talking about them weekly,

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it does obviously bring that to the
forefront. So you sent you tend to

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see I tend to see the world
a little bit more negatively now since I've

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been doing this podcast, It's also
made me a little hyper aware of my

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surroundings, though I feel like like
I never was before the true grime paranoia,

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I think, the deep dark truth, and you and Chip for my

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mental health, great crisis. You're
welcome for the jaded nous. You're not

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welcome for the paranoia. Bill me. We could probably write that off on

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our taxes, all right. I
think for me it changed the way that

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I look at true crime in terms
of its entertainment value and how we treat

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true crime. As somebody that produces
that sort of content. I think you

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have to be hyper aware of what
the actual state of your listeners is,

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but also the state of what the
victims families are and responsibility as content maker.

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Yeah, I feel like I used
to be able to mindlessly watch unsolved

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mysteries or mindlessly watch forensic files,
and I can't mindlessly watch it in the

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same way anymore, not only because
I'm thinking of you know, things that

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I think about now and know now
that I didn't know then, like whether

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or not the police seem to be
following typical protocols with dealing with media or

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whatever, those little things, but
also just constantly thinking of how was this

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presented to me? And did I
actually know anything about the victim? Have

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they talked about the victim or just
the way that the victim died? Things

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that I never would have picked up
on before. It wouldn't have phased me

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that they weren't included, and now
I'm constantly aware of it. That's what's

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screaming in my head is lawsuits and
power dynamic which I also already knew,

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but in this minute way, there's
like C grade celebrities going after nobody's and

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also how they use those weird power
dynamics. I think me and Chip had

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a good handle on it because we've
seen it play out in other fandoms that

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we're in and big name fans,
and how celebrity works when the celebrities aren't

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real celebrities. So we've watched that
play out with everyone from authors to wizard

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rockers, to voiceover artists to whatever. And we've been in those spaces where

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some minor comic book illustrator is somehow
like the coolest fucking person in the room.

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We've been in those rooms. Fandom
famous is so fucking weird, and

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your experience a fandom famous is the
weirdness. That's a Patreon episode there.

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I came into it knowing that there
would be some amount of that, but

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I really didn't understand how in a
lot of our fandoms there's call out and

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it becomes something that is kind of
dealt with by its community. But this,

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a lot of it feels much more
behind the scenes, much more nefarious,

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much more monetary. It's I don't
know, so much more rooted in

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the finance signe it really is.
It's like there's a lot of profit to

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be had in the fandom famous,
but it's it's far more explicit. I

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think everybody should ask their favorite like
true crime podcasters, questions that have to

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do with what a shit like behind
the scenes, because I know what it's

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like men behind the scenes for us, and I wish I knew everything everybody

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else knows because it's becoming an industry, but it's still so separate. You

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might listen to these two and not
never hear about this one, but this

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one has a huge audience that you
don't even know about. Do you believe

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that people can change? Yeah,
but it's so much work. I don't

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think most people are willing to put
in the work. But yeah, I

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think so. Free will and choice
is a thing. It's hard to break

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a habit and take a lot of
work and a lot of perspective because I

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mean, there's so much involved to
admitting it and you know, dealing and

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whatever. Changing. And I think
people are actively changing every time they're learning

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is significan amount of information. So
I think if you realize you're wrong about

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three things, that those little things
add up until they've changed you fundamentally as

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a person, and it becomes like
one of them will become some new core

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ideal or belief of who you are. So I think people are always changing.

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But I think that people that tend
to be like narcissists, Yeah,

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they're going to change, but that
doesn't mean that they're going to always change

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for the better either. I mean, yeah, we're going with people.

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Everything is literally changed. This conversation
is changing who we are as people.

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Right, change happens, change conscious
deliberate change is so much work. It

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is a lot of work. But
I mean, changing scess. What's their

408
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definition of success? I don't know
my answer to this. I saw it

409
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on the list. I think that's
a sense of self purpose. For somebody

410
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to say I'm successful, that would
translate into I feel full and I feel

411
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like I'm doing what I'm supposed to
in my purpose life satisfaction. I don't

412
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think it neces silly means like,
oh my god, I have billion dollars.

413
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Are you happy and content accomplished?
Do you feel accomplished right and what

414
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you are doing or have done,
or what you find your purpose to be.

415
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I feel like it's about feeling accomplished. That doesn't mean you're the best.

416
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What's the scariest moment in your life
so far? One serious one,

417
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one silly one. Okay, I've
got my silly one. Sometime in high

418
00:33:34.039 --> 00:33:37.319
school Christmas Eve, I wait till
everyone goes to bed, and I don't

419
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remember what I was bringing downstairs,
but I was bringing someone's presence downstairs to

420
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you know, have it appear under
the tree or whatever for Christmas morning.

421
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And I got downstairs and there was
a silhouette in the living room and I

422
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just felt all the heat drained from
my body and it was my cardboard cutout

423
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of Jack Sparrow. Sister kept me
for Christmas. It's like I am about

424
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to die. That's cardboard, that's
Johnny Depp. My silly one would definitely

425
00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:09.679
be like probably us doing spirit call
mine? Also is it mine? Was

426
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in our backyard. I distinctly remember
just feeling that presence and just being in

427
00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:22.280
that moment and being actually scared and
like what Chip is like describing like when

428
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you feel so hot, really weird
real life. Probably getting a phone call

429
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that my mom had a massive heart
attack. I mean that was probably the

430
00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:36.679
scariest I think that I've ever felt, like real scared and like not able

431
00:34:36.719 --> 00:34:40.239
to control anything or any situation or
any emotion that was going on. No,

432
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that's fair. Yeah, there's the
reason. It's silly and real.

433
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That might have been my answer for
when my dad had his heart attack,

434
00:34:47.639 --> 00:34:51.239
had I not had my wisdom teeth
out that day and been high as fuck

435
00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:58.159
on Zanni's. I think mine is
before I went into the hospitals, Like

436
00:34:58.239 --> 00:35:01.880
day five of not being able to
eat recap, I had a gulfstone that

437
00:35:02.079 --> 00:35:07.440
blocked off my entire liver at I
jaundiced, and I couldn't keep anything down

438
00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:12.760
for almost a week and a half. Day five or six of that,

439
00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:15.039
I was in more pain than I
had ever been in my whole life.

440
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And I undid the front door,
unlocked it in case I had to call

441
00:35:19.880 --> 00:35:22.480
nine one one, and I couldn't
move, and I was just like,

442
00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:28.679
what a horrible thing that somebody's gonna
find me dead here? That was like

443
00:35:28.760 --> 00:35:32.519
my absolute scariest moment. And it
wasn't I'm in pain, I'm gonna die.

444
00:35:32.760 --> 00:35:37.280
It was Michael is going to find
me dead, crawled on this carpet.

445
00:35:37.599 --> 00:35:42.280
He's gonna need a lot of therapy. Like it was scared for like

446
00:35:42.519 --> 00:35:45.519
the after it was super fun,
upbeat question. Yeah, that was not

447
00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:50.719
fun. I also you brought me
back to that time I blacked out and

448
00:35:50.719 --> 00:35:52.800
cracked my head open and had to
get hospitalized too. That was scary as

449
00:35:52.840 --> 00:35:57.719
fuck. For about twelve hours,
I couldn't sit up. I was so

450
00:35:57.840 --> 00:36:00.880
dehydrated and my blood pressure was so
that they couldn't set me up, and

451
00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:06.239
I was going in and out of
conscious for hours. It was very scary.

452
00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:13.119
Big question, dumb answers only,
Okay, no serious? What do

453
00:36:13.159 --> 00:36:19.239
you think is the meaning of life? The ghosts that just closed Mikey's door.

454
00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:23.800
I've decided sex as the meaning of
life because it propagates life, and

455
00:36:23.960 --> 00:36:30.000
so that's it. I think the
meaning of life is a weird question because

456
00:36:30.599 --> 00:36:37.519
life as in life, meaning life, I would think it's birth, rebirth

457
00:36:37.559 --> 00:36:42.920
and death and the cycle. My
answer was really a more why do we

458
00:36:43.079 --> 00:36:45.960
exist? It's like because we keep
having children. Obviously, that's why we

459
00:36:46.039 --> 00:36:52.960
still exist. That's the only reason
we should still exist, versus the philosophical

460
00:36:52.840 --> 00:36:59.599
phoeney answer of like do good you
know? Yeah, So I think it's

461
00:36:59.679 --> 00:37:04.480
much rooms for that like scientific perspective, because mushrooms are on everything and everywhere

462
00:37:04.719 --> 00:37:09.199
and it's constantly like Mike's just like
it's fun guy. It's the fun guy.

463
00:37:09.320 --> 00:37:13.360
For me, it's the fun guy. But in sense of life,

464
00:37:13.400 --> 00:37:15.760
from like a humans perspective, what
is the meaning of life? I'm gonna

465
00:37:15.840 --> 00:37:22.119
go with that success a sense of
purpose, Like that's seriously of life.

466
00:37:25.920 --> 00:37:31.920
Only everything eventually becomes crabs. The
meaning of life is to become crab.

467
00:37:34.920 --> 00:37:38.239
That is, that is the true
version of success, the self actualization of

468
00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:42.920
being crab. Have we did what
our favorite pokemon are on this show?

469
00:37:43.559 --> 00:37:50.559
We've talked about it anyways, mine
is nine Tails. We literally just had

470
00:37:50.599 --> 00:37:55.920
this conversation and I am inscerting it. We we did the we have to

471
00:37:55.960 --> 00:37:59.880
pick one then, and you picked
one. So who did you pick?

472
00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:05.440
You've already picked it in everybody else
had to answer, and you waffled poorion

473
00:38:05.559 --> 00:38:07.840
in one of your answers. This
is what we went with. Vio Plume,

474
00:38:07.960 --> 00:38:12.559
Gingar, and Flurryon are my three
favorite Pokemon, and it's hard for

475
00:38:12.599 --> 00:38:15.599
me to pick one from them.
I'm not even kidding, it's really hard.

476
00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:20.079
But if I had to go with
like overall favorite Pokemon, or I'd

477
00:38:20.079 --> 00:38:24.280
want to have one, it's evy
favorite Pokemon versus Pokemon that you want in

478
00:38:24.360 --> 00:38:28.519
your house. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, And that's how I decided my

479
00:38:28.519 --> 00:38:32.960
favorite Pokemon years ago was Arcanine because
if I could have exactly one Pokemon exists.

480
00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:37.639
It is a giant, fluffy pupper
who can run fast enough to run

481
00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:42.920
on water and can breathe fire.
But just to be clear, guys,

482
00:38:42.920 --> 00:38:46.000
Fluryon is better than nine Tails and
Arkanine. So we don't want to like

483
00:38:46.079 --> 00:38:52.119
give false information on our deep dark
truth podcasts. So we need some more

484
00:38:52.199 --> 00:38:55.880
dumb questions because shit is just getting
too serious. If you could go jungle

485
00:38:55.920 --> 00:39:01.639
bogging through d Amazon or the sounds
of miserable. What are my other options?

486
00:39:01.880 --> 00:39:07.159
Skydiving, scuba diving. Yeah,
she can't be trusted though. What

487
00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:12.000
jungle am I doing? Was jeeping
through any jungle you wanted to be,

488
00:39:12.039 --> 00:39:15.639
I was just you whatever. I
would definitely do the jungle bogging. I

489
00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:22.079
love the big giant fan boats in
the Everglades. It isn't the coolest fucking

490
00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:28.960
thing. Also, the idea of
a safari where they're not zoo kept animals,

491
00:39:29.000 --> 00:39:32.119
like where it's a tiger king type
of scenario that I'm contributing to and

492
00:39:32.159 --> 00:39:37.199
you're just driving through their actual habitat. That has its own problems. I

493
00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:40.880
get that, people, Okay,
there's no ethical consumption under jungle. Yeah

494
00:39:42.159 --> 00:39:46.639
I'm going skydiving for sure. Fuck
that about going with the jungle, because

495
00:39:46.639 --> 00:39:51.719
it's the illusion of control. I
don't have more control than I do in

496
00:39:51.800 --> 00:39:57.079
skydiving or whatever, but I pretend
I do. My stomach doesn't want to

497
00:39:57.119 --> 00:40:01.119
fall out of my mouth if I'm
in a ge Okay, I mean there's

498
00:40:01.159 --> 00:40:06.400
some big ass bumps going on.
This isn't just a stroll. Even the

499
00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:09.679
dirt scuba diving school too. I
just the jungle got me. I can't

500
00:40:09.719 --> 00:40:14.719
trust the ocean. Well, of
course not. There's too many things.

501
00:40:14.800 --> 00:40:16.440
I don't know how deadly there are. I don't even think they know how

502
00:40:16.480 --> 00:40:22.320
deadly they are. Did you know
there are poisonous birds? As if a

503
00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:27.000
human ate this bird, it would
kill you for poison reasons. No,

504
00:40:27.119 --> 00:40:30.360
I did not. There's a couple. There's some sort of goose that it

505
00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:34.079
depends on its diet, so whatever
it's eating stays in its body, and

506
00:40:34.079 --> 00:40:38.000
that kills us. But there are
a couple that are just inherently poisonous to

507
00:40:38.239 --> 00:40:43.760
us. I thought it was vultures. Is it flamingos? There were all

508
00:40:43.840 --> 00:40:46.119
birds I had never heard of,
except for you know, generic category of

509
00:40:46.159 --> 00:40:52.239
goose, spur spur winged goose.
Is that it? Or the rough head

510
00:40:52.280 --> 00:40:55.599
groose? Uh? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that one. There's ten

511
00:40:55.679 --> 00:41:01.400
birds that are poisonous something like that. Fun fact for everyone in the world

512
00:41:01.440 --> 00:41:07.599
to know instantly. Birds are dinosaurs. I don't trust them at all.

513
00:41:07.800 --> 00:41:12.559
They trust them more than I trust
mushrooms in the ocean. You know who

514
00:41:12.599 --> 00:41:16.639
I trust less than birds? People
that think that birds are the best pets.

515
00:41:16.920 --> 00:41:22.440
I trust those pee pets. No, no, no, those people

516
00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:28.320
are serial killers see minds. Cats. I don't understand why we domesticated cats,

517
00:41:29.000 --> 00:41:31.400
and they domesticated themselves, and turns
out they just sort of moved in.

518
00:41:32.320 --> 00:41:37.639
See, I'm anti birds as pets
just because they fly. You putting

519
00:41:37.679 --> 00:41:40.960
them in a structure where they can't
fly too inhumane. You have to clip

520
00:41:40.960 --> 00:41:45.320
their weighting or whatever, and that's
shitty. Cats are the number one hunters

521
00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:50.800
on the planet. They're hunters.
They can't run to not But that's why

522
00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:53.519
it makes sense for cats to co
exist for humans the same way of like

523
00:41:54.119 --> 00:42:00.039
smaller breed terriers, because they kill
rats and rats spread disease. I'm a

524
00:42:00.039 --> 00:42:06.800
bird person. I definitely want a
raven. I definitely, I aesthetically want

525
00:42:06.800 --> 00:42:09.840
a raven to ride on my shoulder
for the rest of time. That's why

526
00:42:09.880 --> 00:42:14.159
we make D and D characters.
I'm not going to trap a raven to

527
00:42:14.239 --> 00:42:15.920
live on my shoulder. Okay,
this is one a little long, so

528
00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:19.599
we're going to stop there, but
we're going to save the rest of the

529
00:42:19.679 --> 00:42:22.079
questions for later, and please submit
more. You can send them to the

530
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four one one. And there's still time

532
00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:36.760
to submit any of you are spooky
paranormal experiences. Until next time you just

533
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listen to the Deep Dark Truth podcast, See you next time, and remember

534
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