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bad questions. I'm going to try and hold myself to a forty five minute
limit and you can finish up the rest on another occasion. But we'll begin
with and this is fairly topical since all these all rookie All NBA teams were
released this week, but Austin asked the question was, where is it,
oh, with all the new with an all NBA teams out and allow of
them not making the new requirements for games played, do you think we'll actually
get more games out of stars next season or will we start seeing lower tier
players win all the awards. I know Draymond's concern was that we would see
lower tier players when the awards. I think that that's a distinct possibility.
And I think, look, when you look at just the all NBA teams
in general, I don't know that I had any stark issues with them.
I get, well, I don't get I know some people were annoyed that
Luca Dante and Shakilra's Alexander made the cut when their teams didn't even make it
out or two in Luca's case, the play in I just those teams were
demonstrative net plus when those two were on the court. Do we penalize them
for the minutes that they're not on the floor. I guess the argument then
becomes that, well, they could have elevated their team to greater high school
they were on the court or in certain games because then their team would have
been better off. You need to make the case to me that Shae Guilders
Alexander wasn't the top ten NBA player this year. And I don't think winning
necessarily needs to be criteria here. So I mean, the thing that stood
out, I was a little bit surprised that Jalon Brown made a second team
All NBA. That did take me off guard a little bit. I wasn't
nothing else really shocked me, though, And I don't think that there were
any just super egregious, incredible snubs. And there's always when you're gonna list
the snubs, you have to say who you're going to bounce off. And
so if you wanted to bounce Julius Randol off for Pascal Siakam or for you
know, Kevin Durant or Kawhi Leonard, because you don't think that the game's
played mattered as much, I don't know, you know, I don't necessarily
know what the case was when we really dig into the metrics. Even for
James Harden to get in over a Damian Lillard, maybe over Dion Fox,
but Fox did have the more. He had a better defensive season that's for
sure, and he had the glitzier season in many respects when you're looking at
minutes played and when you're also just looking at I believe his scoring average was
higher. So like you can look at those raw numbers, you could dig
into some of the impact metrics. I did. We did that when we
were actually doing our all MBA teams. Grant and I no major snubs here
though about what would happen because they went through the list and you know,
so in the you know Lebron and Steph and I think Dame, like these
are guys that wouldn't have qualified under the under the new rules. And I
think what you're gonna see happen is that there might be seasons in which lower
tier players and make it define I think we didn't need to define lower tier
because if you were to put well, I guess you know, Kevin Durant
wouldn't be an option here. But if you were to put or Kawhi Leonard.
But if you were to put Pascal Siakam in this, does that qualify
as a lower tier player? I mean, like then domas a bonus on
that level. I honestly don't know, but I do think when it comes
to for the most part, especially the younger guys, where maybe you know,
Lebron just made his nineteenth All MBA team, He's probably not going to
give a fuck. Something like Kevin Durant might not give a fuck and didn't
really have an option or say in the matter because of injuries. But even
let's use a Damian lower. I just think All MBA means enough to these
guys, especially when for many of them, like a Jaylen Brown, like
a Jason Tatum as well, it's tied to their contract. Then that their
incentives there, They're going to continue to go for it. And maybe we'd
even see Luca been like you know, if the Mavericks tried to shut him
down earlier, just just dispensed with that attempt. And so I'm not too
concerned about there being a lower tier of player involved. I'll have to I
think we need to like see it play out for two to three seasons,
but it's a distinct possibility, and there might be years and in which it
happens, but I do think it'll be if that ever happens, and when
it has happened, it will primarily be because of injuries, not because guys
they were getting shut down or load managed to the point that they weren't playing
in that many games. There'll always be cases where Okay, maybe this really
fux Kawhi Leonard out of ever making an All NBA team again, But I
don't think it's going to result in just like this massive exodus of the you
know, the usual faces here. So yeah, that's where I land on
that. Let's get into the discord fund here at a bunch of good questions
this week. Scrolling through them, I ran out, I didn't have my
usual time to prep for these, so this is going to be more of
an off the cuff thing. But that's you know, that can be fun
as well. So where oh, here we go? So Carragan asked,
how do you feel? Oh boy, he's this is what the Knicks down
three to two. As I record this, karak And asked, how do
you feel about the Donovan Mitchell fiasco? Now they think they would have been
better by making the trade worse or you're still hoping the Nicks get him eventually
in free agency. I'm not looking ahead to Donovan Mitchell's free agency, which
I think is in not twenty three or twenty four, twenty five I think
it's in twenty twenty five, or should double double check that. So no,
I'm not thinking about Dondo Mitchell's free agency. Do I think they should
have done it knowing what they were this season, I don't know, and
knowing how topsy turvy topsy turvy r J Barretts here was where it would have
looked like a home run if he was sort of the primary fodder for that
trade, and now it's he's playing well enough in the playoffs where people are
gonna have high expectations for him. Again, I'm ultimately still okay that they
didn't make the move, And I think what would be most troubling is if
they turn around after this postseason, because I do expect them to lose in
this round to Miami at some point, even if they take it to a
game seven. Is if you double down on this exact corp and treat yourself
as, oh, we're kind of just role players away. They still needing
Grant and I talked about this like they still need a best player in a
playoff series type of guy. Jalen Brunson can be that sometimes for a game,
but over the course of a longer stretch as great as he is,
he's just going to be better than your number two. And could Donno Mitchell
technually be that player? Sure, I don't know if it changes the dynamic
of the team at all, where yes, quickly before he gets injured.
Not great in the playoffs, but he finishes runner up in six Men of
the Year voting as that type of a breakout. What does getting Donovo Mitchell
do to his Quentin grinds. He's still on the team and he's become an
important part. Are you as likely to have then go out and trade a
Josh Hard after that? It's just really tough to know whether the Nick should
regret like the asking price there, I don't think Donno Mitchell would have made
them much more menacing, if at all like they're feeling. To me,
still would have been okay, they made it to the Eastern Conference finals.
I'm not going to pick them to be Philly or Boston. And I think
you could argue that maybe the defense would be less equipped because maybe you wouldn't
have Grimes or buyer It as part of that Donovan Mitchell trade. And how
would that have served you against the Cleveland Cavalier's team, which you've made other
moves to where you don't wait out the Josh Hart market and think about how
important he was. It's just and then what does it look like for Julius
Randall who gets nudged down another rung in the pecking order, Whereas right now
he can be the one or the two depending on Brunton distributes. But I
think he takes over games. He knows what he needs to. Julius friend
all of a sudden becomes just like the third guy or the second guy,
where's vascillating between there where there's no path to him really being a clear number
one unless he's playing with bench heavy units. That probably doesn't look like a
great role for him. We know it can happen when you get him moving
downhill, and we know that he can hit picking pops, but just he
needs to be on the ball. I think for him to have any sort
of overarching and gave engagement, especially on defense, which he often does not.
Anyway, I don't know. I don't know if they're better off.
I wouldn't say they're worse off either, but I do think that this season
kind of underscores. Yeah, it was Cinderella campaign in many ways, you
still need that best player in a playoff series type of cornerstone, and they
quite frankly don't have it. And if it were me, and we'll get
into this deeper in the offseason, like yeah, I would look at moving
Julius Randall and going from there. It doesn't have to be for a start,
but to open things up for the development of other guys and other types
of lineup, smaller lineups, but also just to kind of clear the deck
if you're actually invested in our Jane. If you're not going to do that,
then you need to go on the trade market and use what assets you
have, which are plenty right now, to acquire one of the market names
that becomes. I don't know who will be there. Maybe Jaylen Brown's on
the market if he turns down to Supermac's extension, and we have a question
on related to that in a little bit. But yeah, I don't feel
any worse about and I felt pretty good about them not making the trade,
even if it was sort of accidental where you would like them to say no,
that that cost was too high, is not going to do it.
It just sort of seems like the Jazz said fuck this and phased them out.
Because the Knicks thought they had more leverage than they actually did. But
I don't think Mitchell would have turned them into a more of a threat to
come out of the East this season. What you've given them a clearer pathway
maybe as that singular player, but he would have definitely bankrupted your asset well
to the point where it's, well, how long until we can then afford
to trade for this next star? That might be a dilemma they run into
whenever, But does John Brunson have as good a season if he's playing next
to Donovan Mitchell instead of Julius Randall and RJ Barrett? I don't And obviously
this crew, I honestly don't know. But I'm more interested in seeing what
the Knicks are going to do this offseason, and and I think that they
just need to be careful not to double down on what's just sort of this
mediocre not mediocre model. They're clearly better than mediocre, but just not double
down on. Okay, this is a team that can win a playoff round,
but are they really ever going to contend for a title is currently constructed?
The answer to that is no. Next question comes from Cyborgian If you
Grant and Jesus played MJ and the Devil in a pickup game? Who would
win? Whoever has Me and Grant the team. I think that's pretty obvious.
Grant, I just feel like he's tall, so I just feel like
he's gonna be super good at basketball. At hoops, I'm not good,
but I have a lefty hook shot, and I would think that that be
enough to be Jordan and the Devil, who I didn't know hooped at all.
Next question comes from unbiased Pistons fan. This one's wild. What's the
trade package for the number one pick this year? All the Thunders picks,
all the Pelicans picks? What's the biggest package you could see being or offered
up? And this is kind of a repeat of a question that we already
had about would you give up? How many picks with the Thunder specifically need
to give up to to get the number one pick from whoever has it this
year? As me, it's not them, since they will be in the
liary. Excuse me, it's like five thirty am here, I'm exhausted.
I don't know what the offer is it would I think the most tantalizing one
would include an actual player where it's depending on which team wins it is.
What if the Mavericks just decided to rebuild and they offered you Luca for Victor
one Bama, Or what if the Bucks decided to just go a wholesale pivot
and they offered Juhani's. I think that's where things would get interesting when you're
looking at actual picks. I don't know if the Thunder said, we'll give
you ten unprotected first round We'll give you ten of like we have this mission
maash of Clipper's first rounders and Rockets first rounders, and we'll give you,
you know, as many unprotected first rounds of our own as we can,
Let's say four, So the totals like seven or eight unprotected first rounders.
Do I think the team that's gonna draft one Byamba considers it? Probably not.
I'm not gonna lie like, but that would be I mean, maybe
they do. It's just so many picks. I also don't think they would
offer it. But assuming they did, I believe whichever team wins a lottery
probably says no. And I'm trying to think of the team that could win
the lottery and then maybe say yes. That's just sort of on a more
gradual time line and would rather have those bites at the apple. I guess
Utah like Danny like Danny Age would certainly be the guy to do that.
But you already have so many picks of your own, like how much?
How many more do you do you actually need? So I can't even think
of a team that would win the lottery and prioritize the Hall. It would
have to be something insane where it's all those draft picks plus a shay there.
And the answer to that would be no, because it defeats the purpose
for for the thunder. Next question, Cosmic Raccoon. Should the Bucks do
a restructure this offseason around Johannis in order to assemble a younger supporting cast.
I feel like the Bucks are drifting, are drifting towards an Iceberg by locking
into a supporting cast that is older than Jannis and then steady to climb around
him. If they lock onto this path, he'll definitely leave in a couple
of years. But if they trade Drew, maybe sign and trade Lopez,
don't lock into Middleton, get younger and aimed to have max cap space.
Next Sauseason, maybe they can create a new younger supporting cast around Jonas.
I do think that this is kind of a fascinating dilemma that the Bucks have,
or a fascinating scenario. I oldly don't think it's what the Bucks do,
because one, they're so draft pick poor right now. You become very
reliant on free agency, and I don't know, given what's going to happen
in the new CBA, whether the machinations are in place for you to actually
improve your team a great deal through that route. One. Walkee's never been
this hot button destination, even since Johnas has been there. You could argue
that, okay, well have they ever been a MA cap space team?
That's all fair, But the best way to improve your roster would order to
change it up would probably be okay, well, can you get enough high
end draft equity out of Drew and a brook Lopez sign and trade and maybe
the same thing with Middleton to re stack your deck and make another mega trade
when it you know, in a year or two. In addition, when
you have your cap space or whatever as well. I don't. I don't
know. It's it's certainly worth discussing. Brook Lopez is going to be thirty
five next year. We know Chris Middleton's getting up there in years. He
can look the same defensively when he came when he came back from basically it
felt like a litany of injuries. But when he came back from the second
injury or a second return, whatever you want to call it, maybe it's
different if you think that. Okay, let's say you're angling to have the
space in two twenty four, do you know, like who is the do
you know Jalen Brown's going to be a free agent and he turned down that
Max's extension? Who else are you trying to go after there? It's not
really just like this well of great free agents at that point you're looking,
Oh, Klay Thompson, who's just going to be I think it will be
age thirty four at that point. Pascal Siakam, he'd be interesting, but
definitely a questionable fit next to Jannis. If you're then asking Jannis to what
we have to trust us and punt on two more years and then we're gonna
go after like Paul George or Kawhi Leonard or Anthony Davis, Like those guys
just aren't gonna be super young at that point. Either. Lebron will be
forty when you think Kahi will be thirty four, Paul George will be thirty
five, Andy Davis will be heading He'll be over thirty two at that point.
So brandon Ingram okay, like you, but you're gonna wait out for
brandon Ingram for two years. I don't think you can explore that scenario unless
the offers for all those guys are just so can't miss to where you're really
restocking your draft well, not to necessarily use those picks and then then hit
on them, but can you have enough assets to then turn around and make
another star type trade if you know, if you're if the whole goal is
to buide your time for when the couple comes a free agent, if you
really need cap space and someone's willing to come to Milwaukee, you can just
figure out a way to create cap space at that time, no matter how
much you need, like, you can always just figure out a way.
Now, what is an issue, and I would recognize is the buckses of
Now, if they're gonna keep all these guys like they're gonna hit, they'll
outside in all likelihood that second apron or that basically you know what the second
apron or hardcap masquerading as a second apron to where they are going to be
very limited in what they can do in trades. They can't trade a draft
pick seven years out, so they would only be able to trade their twenty
twenty nine first, but that would have been whatever. Anyway, they're not
gonna be able to use their minimid level exception, and so you get into
the scenario of, well, then we're just obligated to pay angles and Jay
crowd over because we can, and you have your one draft pick mar John
bow Champ and then salary offer that you can dangle and hope that gets you
someone in a trade. So you're already like, no, forget you can't
acquire anyone and sign and trade. That's not that's just not happening for you.
You're not gonna be able to spend to not even be able to sign
or you will be able to sign free agents to the minimum, but you're
gonna be rolling the dice. And it's oh, did Joshua Kobe's value plummet
or Tory craigs value plummet in the Phoenix Sun series to where maybe they would
come on board. I don't know, but I think this is a This
is a great question, cosmic raccoon. I just can't. If I were
to say, should the bucks are Dude, I'm just gonna say no.
If anything, I would kind of look at it as you need to just
make this one last run, and if you're if you show that you're on
the verge of something, or you at least put yourself in position to where,
Okay, we brought these guys back, but all these deals are movable,
or at least, oh, we got far enough into playoffs, or
Jhannis knows that we're you know, like serious, and that will be able
to rebuild on the fly because we've conserved our assets. When these guys are
older and coming off the books, I think what they actually should do,
well, let me frame it this way, because I'm all over the place
with this question. It's just it's so tough throughout my head around. I
don't think they should do it, because what precious time you have with Jannis
now unless he's unless he's going to sign his own extension. If he does
that, then it's a whole different story, and it's all right, we
can play the longer game. But if he's gonna have actual free agency,
looming over. I don't think you can afford to take a step back,
even for one year. I don't know what they do this offseason specifically,
I'd probably howk around their best trade package that they could if you really wanted
to look at it, could you see is it worth changing things up by
dangling Drew Holiday? See what you can get for him. I just don't
think you're gonna get a reasonable enough upgrade. You know you're not. You
don't have enough assets to attach to Drew Holiday for instance, to go we
can get Jaylen Brown if that's somebody that ends up being on the on the
market. So I don't know, there's no easy answer, but I think
it's you are obligated to bring this careback within reason of Middleton's gonna get a
max salary of forty plus million dollars from the from the Houston Rockets. Yeah,
then you need to take a step back and say, Okay, what
are we doing here? Or unless the offers are just so over the top,
and I just don't know what teams are going to come in and be
like, we need Drew Holiday, so we're gonna give you three first rounders
and they're all going to be unprotected or something with him for it's you're obligated.
It's more important to me, in my opinion, to capitalize on Joannest's
window. Next question comes from Glad. This was a good one I did.
I did look at this one and did some cursory research on it,
so I don't know how the math would work, how it would slash I
will be intended, but there should should there be some sort of stipulation that
have teams to the number one pick overall, say in the last three years,
they shouldn't be allowed to be there again in the following year. So
like teams like the Pistons, Magic and t Wols wouldn't be eligible for the
number one pick this year. You could expand it to the top three if
you wanted, but that makes things a little too complicated. It just feels
like the same few teams have been in the top three the last few years.
Shout out Houston Rockets in terms of who I'm adding their shout out Houston
Rockets in terms of who had the best odds, And it kind of feels
weird, slash unfair that they had chances to grab the best players available and
I've done nothing with them. Oh, call rockets. I didn't read the
end of this. Apparently, I would call it the Pistons. But at
least they can blame injuries. Also, I will acknowledge that the new system
typically has been good. I'm not rewarding the worst teams perfectly with the best
draft picks. So there is a version of this where it was like the
NBA Draft lottery wheel, and it was essentially scheduled out where you would know
who had these. It wasn't even a lottery anymore. It was the wheel,
and it was proposed by Mike's Aaron, he was the at the time.
He was the like general manager of the Celtics. But you would essentially
know where you're picking years in advance and whether you're picking number one, and
you would beat to schedule your rebuild around that. And he's had a VP
of Celtics. I was just googling me. No, I didn't know that
he had been elevated to VP of Basketball Operations and team Council. I'm so
I know where people are for the most part of that. I got tripped
up on Sam Quim during a radio hit today. I just totally spaced on
where he was at the moment, but the titles are just getting so hard
to keep track of. I gotta say an in case anyone's you know,
in case anyone's like, actually actually upset, I apologize that I couldn't remember
what the title was for Mike's Aaron in Boston. Any How, the Wheel,
I was never a fan of it because I don't think you can plan
rebuilds. An injury could throw your season entirely off. And I still like
the element of randomness. This proposal is probably a little bit different, and
I've seen stuff written that's similar to it. I'm ultimately against it because I
don't know, Yeah, there's a team, like the Rockets have mismanaged their
assets, but let's say the Spurs or bottom three team again next year.
Is that because that they've failed or they just early on in their rebuild and
they're going through the real motions. And I just feel like the Rockets are
sort of an extreme example. First of all, we don't even know if
they're going to pick in the top three this year. They dechinically could still
fall out of it. But the Rockets feel like just sort of this extreme
example. But if you wanted to create another element of randomness, I just
given how important it is for small markets to get players through the draft now,
and look, fuck how important is for team to just get players to
the drafts in general, because free agency is just becoming increasingly irrelevant, and
I think I don't think that's going to change, if anything, it worsens
with the new CBA. So I don't know that you can tell teams Okay,
you're gonna get if you have one top three pick, and what if
it's really not your fault if that's how three pick gets injured and now you've
derailed another season, but you don't have the trade off of like think about
okay, see with chet Homegren this year as an example, you get chet
Homegren at number two, and now let's just say, okay, we can't
be in the top three for again for X amount of years he gets injured.
But you don't already have Shay Gil just Alexander in place. Now.
They did game the system to get there, based on how they kind of
use, how they kind of how they shut down, says Alexander last season.
But I think the new system has been mostly fine as is, and
I'd be mostly against it. Maybe if you want to go, okay,
a third time. So in this case, Houston, you were in the
top three. If you're could you make it sort of just like how we
handle the repeater tax repeater tax clock, just in a different variation and say,
oh, you've been in the top three and two of the last three
years. Oh, you can't be in the top three again this year,
But that would be something that'd be interesting. We definitely had another wrinkle.
I just don't know, then, how do you determine what do your odds
get bounced down to? How do you determine where you actually fall in that?
Is it like you can't automatically throw them to the bottom. That'd be
fucked up. You can't just have them flip flop places with you know,
fourth place. Let's say if you have the third worst record, which I
think Houston did this year. But I'd be interested to see what that model
would actually look like. And how you know is it just okay if you've
done you've been in the top three and two of the last three years,
your lottery odds get slashed in path and those extra ping pong balls get divvy
up evenly amongst all the other teams in the lottery. I don't know,
interesting question, and it wouldn't shock me if we have more lottery reform in
the future. I just don't necessarily think that that there would be a need
for that right now, especially again because of how irrelevant free agency has become
and how important draft picks are to either one develop or using those star trades
that teams are ultimately looking for. Next question from Herb Jones Enjoyer, what
does Herb Jones need to do to get some respect? They are referring,
of course, the fact that Herb Jones did not make an all defensive team.
My response here would be the ship's hard And in speaking of all defense
all rookie, it will very quickly just say that I was surprised Andrew nem
Hard didn't make an All Rookie team. I thought he probably should have been
in there. Over most people would have said Jeremy Sollen. I think I
had him in him. Was it over Jalen Duran or did I put Jalen
durn on there? And I bought no, No, I didn't have Jabari
Smith Junior online. I don't think one of those two players should have been
bounced for Andrew man Hard, And I was kind of I thought that maybe
Christian Brown would get more love than he actually did, but his role was
just so bit with Denver, I kind of understand it. But for the
all defense, for Herb Jones specifically, what does he need to do to
get some defensive respect. Probably needs to be viewed as a forward more.
And I guess that doesn't matter because positions are getting just thrown out and Herb
Jones enjoyer. Pelicans were the only top ten defense without a player receiving the
first place vote. I didn't investigate this, but I do think that tracks
the Pelicans were six ten points allowed per possession, per leading the glass and
just looking at the distribution of everything else, and I know how Herb Jones
just Herb Drones cannibalized a like and I guess it being a guard this year
probably helped him being eligible there. Just when you look at how many biggs
biggs are involved, and like first team alone you had Brook Lopez, Evan
Mobley and Jared Jackson Jr. I think that through everything for a whirl,
and then you go to the second team had two bigs and Draymond Green and
bam Adebayo. I probably would have had Herb over Dylan Brooks. I also
had Blue Dort on my team and Jade McDaniels. You're just I think that
wings and guards specifically are more liable to get screwed now because it does feel
like people recognize bigs the most for defense since they value were in protection so
much, which is ultimately fine, You're gonna get rid of positions now,
and I think guards will suffer more than anyone where. I think if you
look at this year, it's does Alex Caruso and Drew Holiday they both cracking
all the like I would. I would argue at least Dylan Brooks, Derek
White, Drew Holiday and Alex Crusoe. Of those four guards, probably two
of them wouldn't have made it if we just opened this up to you know,
position lists, and you're more comfortable, you know, than you can
include Jannis and Jade McDaniels being viewed among voters predominantly as a poet. I
don't know if he was eligible at guard, so I think Herb Jones gets
plenty of respect. I don't actually have I would I have put him in
over Dylan Brooks, Yes, anyone else on second team, I honestly don't
know og No, Derek White, No, I guess your quibbles would have
to be and there's no one on the first team I would have put him
in front of I might if this might have been my exact first team,
I can't remember. I had Ev Mosly, Jena Jackson and Juan Brook Lopez.
I think I had Drew Holiday. Alex Crows might have been on my
second team. I don't. I don't really know how I worked to that,
but I don't. I just don't view this and this shit's hard,
And I think it's okay to be like, okay, if he wasn't even
given any consideration and he ended up being behind Jimmy Butler, Michael Bridges and
Marcus Smart, that's like, you know, in the guard section, I
think you could make the case, oh it is you know, did lou
dort him being so far behind her Herb Jones and Michael Bridges and Marcus Smart
the voting section. This shit's hard. I think Herb Jones gets plenty of
respect as a as a defensive player, though, and I don't think there's
there definitely flaws in the voting, And I don't think I had him on
my alday. He might have been in my third my third teams, I
really should have pulled that up. I don't think I had him on on
one of them. Some people could have looked at minutes, but we know
Alscarrus allogged a few looking at guards. Specifically, he locked plenty of a
few more minutes than Herb Jones. Jones siks on some of the toughest assignments.
He's he's fantastic. I don't know what he needs to do to get
more recognition. I don't know that he deserves like the needs it. I
should say. I just don't think it was an egregious But with like the
when you look at the All MBA All Defense rookie teams this year, I
think they were all pretty strong. You can you can take issue with some
of you know, the Wholemark Jackson leaving a cook off his MVP baut entirely,
But I don't view this as just there are some surprises, I'll say
Jalen Brown making second team, for instance, but like nothing that stands out
to me is, oh, this is this is unacceptable. I just think
some years it like breaks right for you, and some years it's not.
And look Herb Jones is I think the other thing here when you look at
Herb Jones and Jay McDaniels, fair or not, they just don't get as
much. You know, for Evan Mobi to make first team as young as
he is is impressive because if people give benefit of the doubt to guys who
have been in the league a little bit longer. And so if Herb Jones
turns in this same season but it's year four instead of year two, does
that make a difference. Maybe. Next question comes from uh, this is
Drizzy Watts as does this series with the with the Celtics prove that hires Maxie
has a has a ceiling? And where does he? As I click out
this window for a fish rena question, does this Celtic series show that there's
a ceiling on who Maxie can be on a playoff contender or is this just
result of a bad matchup and still room to go as a player decision making?
Playmaking wise, this question was I should note asked before Kyrieks. Maxie
went off in Game five that the Sixers won, and then he had a
pretty strong, not as efficient Game six. I do think there are definitely
areas I think his playoff series is identify that he needs to improve when you
look at just his takeoff points around the basket. Specifically, he's not shooting
well in the restricted area, and then I do think there's I'm not ready
to pass judgment on his playmaking just because I don't think the Sixers have him
doing enough of it. They want him to just be the speedster on the
ball. If he needs to run a slowed down offense, though, that's
something that I think he's gonna need to improve. Part of that would be
being more unpredictable from the in between range, or maybe leaning on or developing
the step back or pull up jumper a little bit more. Part of this
is now his role. He just definitely and had a chance to develop in
this capacity over the past year and a half since the James Harden trade.
Still, can he become more of a mid range player. He's one of
seven on stepbacks in the Celtics series. I do think nothing about this series
is discouraging for me. The Celtics are uniquely built to hassle him, and
I'd say he's probably been better defensively for stretches than I would expect. In
Game six, the Celtics would go out of their way too, if they
had Maxi switched on got Maxi switched on their ball hand or they would then
go see got a second bass for me to try and get James Harden involved
in the action rather than him, and so you know, that's kind of
a that's kind of a win for him. But I still think Tyrese Maxie's
ceiling with the Sixers is just so much different than Tyrese Maxi's ceiling on a
team that wouldn't have James hard and Jowombi because he would be allowed to do
more and develop in different ways. I don't think that's necessarily good or bad
for his career. But I still think in this exact role that he's in,
yeah, there are limitations you'd like to seem improve. Well, you
have the on ball reps, two broadness horizons. I don't know. This
is still someone who could make an All Star team, is like the six
or third best player. So I'm not worried about It's not just these last
two games. I just really think that. I just think that he's still
super young and he's going to be fine. His extension is going to be
interesting though, because I bet that his agent is looking at you Jordan Pool's
extension one hundred and twenty three million guaranteed, and looking at the season that
Maxie just had, they're probably gonna say, oh, he needs to be
max They're clothe, give Maxie, give Tyrese the Maxie, we'll call it.
So I'm fascinated to see that. But I do think the Celtics,
because you look at how small Maxie can be, and he's already a kind
of a disadvantage going to the basket, their length there can really especially of
their wings and guards, can really disrupt him in ways that I don't think
would be as pronounced of an issue against other teams. Next question comes from
Jake from State Farm, So what the Sun's lack of death? Is there
a depth? Excuse me? Is there a trade for CP three or eight
and that they could do that could let them something? And I'm sure there's
a trade that could let them something and we'll go into more detail. I'd
rather have grant On for the bulk of this discussion. I do think what
I will say after this playoff flame out. There are two things that I'm
gonna say. I'm not ready to declare the Kemn Durant trade a failure.
It's worth having a discussion because of how well Bridges played in with Brooklyn.
I don't know if his role ever would have I don't think his role in
Phoenix ever would have looked the same unless they moved CP three this summer.
So after a trade like that, there needs to be time to let your
supporting casts be fleshed out and just to figure it out, especially when it's
happening mid season. It's not like they had the off season and then the
training camp to kind of futs and fiddle and plan around this. This happened
mid stream. There was their choice, but it always was probably gonna be
the case that yes, they're on this urgent timeline and it needed to be
about this season, but it's more so about shoring things up for the bigger
picture. And to that end, yeah, you're gonna look at moving you
have to look at moving eighton. But as I asked to Grant, is
he more valuable Jordan Pool four years in one hundred and twenty three million guaranteed
or DeAndre and three years and one hundred and two just because the numbers cheaper?
Is it DeAndre eight? And I think Jordan Poole plays or represents a
concept that is more desirable as someone who can operate from as an advantage creator.
But let's just look, you have Deandred and they're definitely gonna look to
move him. We'll see what the market is. CB three has fifteen million
guaranteed fifteen point eight million guaranteed this summer. They could simply waive him and
stretch that out over three years, which I think would it so that's you
know, five and change a year for a little bit. You could also
try and send him to a team that has cap space and then they can
stretch and waive him. I don't know what the compensation is to eat fifteen
like to eat that much, to eat that much money and so or you
could hope that all right, can we use him as like salary ballast and
another trade. You just don't have the requisite assets to do to do that,
like use CB three's full salaries like that's going to be an anchor unless
you're taking back a truly like bad deal like I would. So the CB
three thing is tough. If I had to guess, I think he's probably
more likely to be waived then traded, just because that number is so big.
Maybe I'm maybe I'm wrong there. Eighton is more fascinating. I have
thought if things kind of not imployed in Boston but they don't make the conference
finals, would they want to give a chance to eighton and would they build
something around Derek White or Malcolm Brogden, And then you could give Al Horford
Robert Williams the third that ultimately feels like it's giving up way too much on
Boston's end because of the season eight and just had the Dallas Maverick stuff probably
won't go away. If kyr I Ring's looking to leave, I think that'd
be a terrible idea for Phoenix, but they can be if you get rid
of Chris Paul, you can operate within the hardcap and then there's like a
scarcity of other teams that need bigs. I don't think Indiana would trade Miles
turn for deandret and straight up right now, and that would underscore a huge
part of the issue. Okay, he's gonna have a boatload of cap space.
I don't think you're looking to unload eight into cap space unless again,
you have some sort of signing trade scenario cocked up, or maybe that's where
CP three becomes valuable in But you know, would they take a flyer on
him? I think they would. But would they give you Lou Dort for
DeAndre Ayton? I don't even think you would have to give up other stuff
in that deal as well. Would Portland talk about Jeremy Grant sign and trade
talks? Maybe, but they would I think have to be skewing towards a
rebuild, and I don't think they do that with Damian Lillard there. And
then even if you're gonna accept eighton, you have to find another taker for
Nurks. You just can't pay like fifty million dollars a year to aid in
the Nurkis to be on your team. That would be kind of like that
would just be disgusting. The Spurs look at him, they'll have cap space,
but are they gonna build. You're not getting to sell or sewing or
this year's pick? Could you get Kelvin Johnson? I mean maybe that could
be something to look at. The olds are the types of trades are probably
looking at now at this point, And Okay, I can try and come
up with I'll try and come with more specific ones for Grant. The CP
three question question is a little bit more complicated to me, just because you
don't have the other assets to sweeten his deal, and so it's just kind
of easier. Oh, we'll eat the five point whatever a million dollars five
point two five point three million dollars per year just to get his salary off.
And that's going to give you more flexibility and ensures that you can use
your entire mid level exception. But that's going to have to be the machinations
to which they improve the same. I think one and two is assuming they
don't find a way to add just like a you know, monster amount of
salary. I think next season, if they keep CP three, they should
still have. Yeah, they'll still have access to their entire mini mid level
exception. That's going to be the primary tool for them to improve their team
with. And then a DeAndre in trade. And at this point, I
don't think you've reached the stage where can we just offload him in a cap
space. I'm sure you could. You can't go that route because he's still
too important to your team, even if you think you can approximate his value
in new deals. For Bismock, Biombo and Jack Landale, we kind of
saw it in Game six against the Nuggets, where Yokich wasn't slowing down at
all. I think eighton provided him more resistance, and that we sometimes take
just his size and default strength, not like he plays with extra, but
just that default strength. It's probably taking for granted a little bit. I'd
be curious to see what his trade value is. But the best way I
could frame it if I were Indie right now, I'm not doing Myles Turner
for DeAndre Eighten straight up. And if you're in, you don't really have
bad contracts to send out. You could look at like Buddy Heal's going to
be expiring, So Miles Turner and Buddy Heeled for eighton plus salary accept that
doesn't really do it for you, and maybe you know there's something out you
can do on a smaller scale. Landry Sham it makes ten point three million,
Cameron Payne is at six point five million guarantee if you want to take
on a longer term contract or you need to stack together salary reason to sign
and trade. I still think we're looking at many Emily, and then what
can we just get freting because the only thing you can really attach to him
is swaps. At this point. I think they're gonna look at it.
I would brace anyone who's not who's not yet, you need to absolutely one
praise yourself or the DeAndre and trade rumors and speculation because it's coming if it's
not in fact here already. Next question comes from Muckle. Not really a
serious question, but how fun have these playoffs been? Even with my team,
the Calves getting embarrassed around one, I've generally enjoyed these playoffs. Unpredictable
outcomes, a lead play performances very few four or five games series. This
has been a really fun rid so far. Yeah, I would agree.
I've enjoyed the variability element of it, or the unpredictability, the ambiuity,
not having that sense of inevitability that we've had in years past, I think
and we actually have. So I'll skip ahead to this question from Darkwing Duck
and loop these together. They said I was listening to the local chuckle Nuts
on the radio on the way to work, saying it's been one of the
better playoffs they've seen from a playing and drama standpoint. For whatever reason,
I haven't felt compelled to watch any of it, which is why I ax
the offensive trend's question in the previous bag is that the sense from and here
that the playoffs have been super compelling to watch. I would say, yes,
they've been compelling. There's been some stinkers of games, and I think
some people will view the absence is just like a true juggernaut, even though
I think the Nuggets are making their case to be one of those. As
an indictment on the state of the league. This is by design. This
is or it's increasingly becoming by design. At wode came out and said that
the NBA is looking increasingly to make sure that third star doesn't line up in
this new CBA on this like, there won't be a team of the third
star. They want that team with the third star to have to let him
walk or send him elsewhere. And this is just an extension of that thinking
because we don't know who's gonna win the title of the first time and how
long. And even if you are just disappointed about what happened to the Bucks,
yeah, I think they were probably the safest title pick, even though
Denver made a case for it as well. Them losing, especially on the
circumstances of injuries, Like it's totally believable and I think they seem to beatable
even beforehand. I don't know. I would wonder why someone who is a
fan of the NBA wouldn't find these playoffs compelling. If you're a fan of
a team and your team dark Wing Dug, I believe you're a Jazz fan.
Unless I'm wrong, You're the Jazz are out of it, so you're
just you know, maybe you've tuned into draft mode or you're an off season
mode. I would totally understand that if you like NBA at large, I
don't know why you wouldn't enjoy these playoffs where there's been a lot of just
stratagems that have been employed that are interesting when you look at all the wrinkles
that teams are throwing in and then upsets galore. I guess you could be
turned off by what feels like a huge breadth of injuries where you know,
the Clippers finished their series with the Suns with no Kauai or Paul George,
and then the Suns finished their series against the Nuggets with eight and NCP three
sitting out there. It feels like there's been more of that Julius Random missing
game, Jimmy Butler missing a game, Johnathan the Goombo missing two games there,
and then the injuries Tyler hero It, throw adiepo there out. It
does feel just anecdotally that there have been more injuries, but we're witnessing just
so much like Joell Embiid and James Harden. Look, they are on the
verge of making it to the conference finals. And the implications here of what
happens to the Celtics they don't make the conference finals. What happens to the
Sixers if they don't, because James Harden can be a free agent. There's
the Houston bugaboo out there, and then there's the Nuggets, where there's Nicole
Yokich. To me, I believe did not win his third MVP Award because
of I don't know if you want to call it fatigue. That's an insult
to what Joell Embie did, But I think a lot of it was.
Had he is a team won two playoff rounds last year, I don't think
anyone would have had a problem voting him MVP a third time. But he
didn't have like any real supporting cast. Now you've given him a different supporting
cast, a healthier supporting cast. Look who the Nuggets are doing are they
have the title favorites. The Warriors are on the brink of elimination. It's
a Lakers team that was written off for earlier in the year. It's man
made it to the second round. I guess some people might be discouraged by
oh to see those Look at the West, a seven seed beating a two
seed in Memphis, which by the way, was missing important players themselves,
most notably in Steven Adams for the Grizzlies, and then the Warriors upsetting the
three seed. But like the upset is relative when you look at all these
upsets that have actually happened, you know, the most surprising one of the
first round was probably the Nicks just trucking the Cavaliers in five games, to
be honest with you, So I found the playoffs super compelling because they are
so unpredictable. I've gotten so many things wrong, and I do feel like
a lot of things are changing from game to game, where even the Warriors
are like they're they've been quicker to react or make changes than they normally would
have, and you're dealing with that as well, just this sense of finality
with the Warriors, what's going to happen? Draymond's a free agent. Jordan
Pool has not been great all of a sudden. If they fall short,
are they gonna look at making wholesale changes? And just what are the Lakers
going to do? Yeah, they've been much improved. Anthony Davis is playing
spectacularly unhealthy. He does seem like he's gonna playing Game six, by the
way, So I'm happy he avoided concussion protocols, or more more importantly,
that he avoided having a concussion. I just I'd be curious to know.
To throw it back at anyone who is not excuse me for anyone who has
not enjoyed the playoffs, I just I would like to know the reason why,
and I would totally listen to it. I would just be curious,
aside from injuries or your team being out of it, why you wouldn't have
enjoyed these these playoffs. Valid question, though I don't I don't have any
issues with it with it being asked. Next question comes from Rome eighty one
eighty ask what should the Celtics do with their front line going forward? Horford
has been so integral to both their defense and offense, but he's thirty six.
Robert Lewis is a great player, but he's average around forty two games
per seasons. It's getting into the league five years ago. So given that
Horford may start to see a decline and effectiveness, will may only be available
half the season in any given year, and the new CBA plus ballooming contracts
for their stars limiting Boston's flexibility, what's the best thing they can do to
maintain a contention level front court. So this is like, this is a
question that I mean, it should matter. This is a question that fucking
matters. Is the best way that I can frame this because everything that row
eighty one eighty here lays out is spot on. And I think what does
help is that Al Horford's of a sudden on the books for ten million dollars
a year next season. I would push back against Robert Williams, the third
being this great player, and it's not just for me, It's not just
about the availability. It's he looks I don't know if he's still injured,
like he's looked slower on defense this year, maybe a little bit more or
not as impactful on offense, or more just pobulated. In general, They're
both cheap enough to where it's okay, we could, we could move forward.
And by the way, also complicating this, I know he hasn't been
used in super volume murbing the playoffs, Grant Williams is gonna entered restricted free
agency, and so that compromises or front court even further. And as Romany
one eighty alluded to, Jaylen Brown is eligible for a five year, two
hundred and ninety five million dollar extension this year. Jason Tatum's a five years,
three hundred and eighteen I believe or whatever it is. That's like in
total when all the years together, that's a lot of money. And we
know how restrictive that the new CBA is going to be. When you're looking
at teams that hit that, I'm just gonna call it fucking hardcap. To
forget the second apron. It's it's the it's the hardcap. I don't it's
not an imminent concern, by the way, because you're looking at those extensions
kicking in a little ways down the line for each of them. But I
do think you kind of we first need to see how this postseason ends,
but you need to look at Okay, is there anything we can do to
diversify this front court and we know that they want. Ideally you would have
someone who can give the rim pressure that Robert Williams the third gives you and
then but also gives you the switchability or perimeter who al however, who can
still hang and then maybe also just kind of the help protection of Rob Williams
a third while also the floor spacing about Horford, You're not there's like,
there's no guy in the league that provides that. Who would even be the
closest week I guess it's Miles Turner. You're just not gonna Miles turn is
probably the closest you come to that you're not gonna be able to. I
mean you could, I mean maybe you could get him, actually just because
if the Pacers you want to trade him, you couldn't. You can technically
trade some future first round picks there. I think you look at it and
it's not a matter of me to me of well, we need to cut
costs here, like Robert Leaves the third, al Horford aren't going to be
mega expensive. It's we need to make the most of Jalen Brown and Jason
Tatum before we get hamstrung by all these salary cap limitations. And is that
going to lead them to look for more draftsic changes over the offseas. I
can't even thin beside form Miles Turner. I can't even think of names.
And he's not the perfect Celtics big by the way, because they're gonna want
someone who provides a little bit more rim pressure is probably just he showed that
he was more dynamic on offense this year, but Robert Leaves the third and
Al Horford are both better playmakers than him. I'm just saying his name is
kind of a point of that would be a guy that you could theoretically target.
I don't know what else or who else you look at. There's there
are cheaper options that you can look to approximate on the center market where it's
oh, do we just we just want a third body in there, so
we're gonna go after Bismack Biyombo and do we get him for the uh,
you know, the minimum at this point, like is he's still going to
be on a minimum contractors this someone who technically requires a use to the minimid
level, which case things get complicated, you're not gonna get Brook Lopez just
one of the money unless he thinks that he can go rim chase, rim
chasing, ring chasing, and then the center mark, I mean the whole
for agency markets like sort of kind of bleak, like do you really want
nasried? Would be interesting, but you're not gonna have the money to get
him vooch. No, you're not gonna money to get him. Christian would
know. So you would be looking at more if you're gonna upgrade the front
court. I don't know if you're gonna be looking more at trades. That's
why I mentioned them as a DeAndre in destination. He just doesn't space the
floor enough. But that would be like an interesting challenge trade would be,
is it? I guess it would be Horford and Derek White or Malcolm Brogden
would be the framework of the package. But then you just have like eighton
who might be more equipped to be kind of at times the actual defensive anchor,
where Robert Williams the third is gonna do more disrupt stuff as the secondary
guy, but his offensive lows and disappearing acts are just so stark. I
don't know that you could just like having both those guys in the roster without
then having also a floor stretching big there with you. I don't know what
big men are going to be on the trade market. This year's Joel and
big get there depending on how the six yer season ends. I don't know.
The Boston does have cards that it could play, though, and I
don't think I just don't know. You know, if Kristaps Porzingis all of
a sudden became gettable in a sign and trade scenario, or I guess if
he just opted in and staying on that deal, do you do you look
at that, but then you're really tying yourself to oh, another sort of
injury prone guy. Well, yeah, Robert Will's the third injury prone himself.
I know Prezincis was available this year, but that was the first time
in roughly forever. Wendell Carter Junior would be great for this team, but
what does it take to get him out of Orlando? It probably depends on
who they're drafting and the lottery. And even then, if they're gonna get
Webin Yama, they're gonna be fine playing ban carro Wendell Carter Junior, Webin
Yama and friends Vonnor together. They're not even gonna think twice about that.
I don't think they need a Mitchell Robinson if the Nicks decided to make him
available. Could they maybe get in Isaiah Hartenstein. I think that might be
the scale move they're more likely to look at. Could I see them being
interested in you on its valn Chuness. I just don't know unless you're sending
Derek White out as part of that, which why would you do for Val
and Chunis. I don't know why New Orleans would necessarily be interested, But
I do think that we could see, especially if they their season ends before
the conference finals or if they just flame out in the conference finals. Row
eighty one eighties absolutely right here that this is like that we could see some
pretty big ass changes from the Celtics where everyone's looking towards the jail and Brown
cross Roads and look as if he says no to the Supermac's extension and they're
offering it, yeah, he's gonna start being shocked. But I think the
I said this, I was asked about it while I was also asked if
the Celtics were gonna get rid of Joe Missoula after the season should they lose
the series to the Sixers. I was that was another We talked about this
on the show Grant and if anyone listened to how you can get caught off
guard by by questions on the radio, and that was just one of them
where I was like, oh, I know that, I know that some
of these questions I'm not going to be ready for, but that coaches get
fired all the time. But I was taken aback by. I was taken
aback by that was just a question. So I was stumbling through that.
But I was also talking about the front court specifically where it's if they and
by the way, they did extend Missoula in what was it, February,
so to get rid of him there would have been now would be weird.
I know that some teams don't care about the timing left on the deal,
but to extend him the terms weren't just closed and I don't know them yet,
and then get rid of him would be bizarre slash wild slash. Not
the greatest look. You have to change you make the finals in twenty twenty
two, but then you still change coaches in consecutive following off seasons would be
fairly hysterical, actually, But I did mention that the front line is kind
of the Okay, we know what we have in the perimeter, if we
want to keep Jaalen Brown just and Jade them together. And I saw JJ
Reddick brought this up talking to Nikaias Duncan and Steve Jones about is there a
cap on how you can operate with those two because there's a Kauai slash Paul
George Ellman to them, and yet Jalen Brown just isn't as good as a
passer as either of those two. Jason Tatum is probably up to stuff.
It could be, but then you're kind of looking at well, then they
also need point of attack help here as well, because Marcus Smart is probably
there. I don't know if he's their best he's probably their best passer.
Is that enough? Like is he the pick and roll orchestrator or half court
orchestrator that you want to trust the stewarts your offense? And if you think
that you need someone to do that, is that an indictment on the Tatum
Brown jan I think that ultimately you're set that you probably have bodies to spare
there. And I think Marcus Smart said something I can't remember the exact quote,
where it kind of felt that he was acknowledging the mortality of this This
roster if they didn't get it done this year. But because you have White
and Broggden and Smart, there's Marchin, there's Marchin be like, hey,
we'll trade one of those guys for somebody. I just don't know who that
somebody is. Again, I threw some names out there, all of many
of which would interest me. I still like Miles Turner for the Celtics.
I don't really know how much that hurts or to frame it doesn't help.
They're they're rebounding, but still they're like they're like I'd also thought the Calves
when they need a perimeter players, they're like something to the thing of Jared
Allen for Al Horford and or was it would you do Jared Allen for Robert
Williams the third and like who's given up more in that deal? But you
could you get if you're the Calves of Brogden or Derek White out of Austin.
Not perfect examples here. The other thing you could look at is just
like, could you get Nick Claxton from Brooklyn? When does that cost you?
If they're if they're going to rebuild again, he doesn't provide the floor
spacing, only does have a flour game now, which is super interesting.
Is this just a team that can try and pivot to small whereas Maxie cleeband
become available in Dallas and say they try and go the lower end route there,
maybe trying to take a look at John Collins, But again, who
are you giving up in that instance? You have to get someone who represents
in upgrade over both of your bigs. I think if you're going the trade
route almost or just be super small time because all the primary salary I don't
even want to say philer, are all the primary salary matching tools that you
have. They're so actually important to your rotation because there they're all your top
seven guys that you can't just junk one of them. Yeah, you have
the flexibility to move Al Horford or Robert Williams the third or one of Marcus
Smart, Malcolm bron and Derek White, but don't necessarily mean you do it
just to do it. I don't. But I don't have any other names
that are springing to mind. Side of that. I'm even I'm even trying
to go through it right now, and it's you're not gonna get Jared Vanderbilt
from the from the Los Angeles Lakers, Like I guess technically Memphis would still
have bigs to spare, but Brandon Kark's probably gonna miss all of next year.
Steven Adams will be back. Do you try and get Xavier Tillman from
them? Are they worried about having to give him an extension? That's again
though, that's like lower level moves. The maybe the ideal get for them.
If I had to pick the ideal get actually a deal, get would
be is there some type of sign and trade to work out with Milwaukee fro
Brook Lopez? And the answer is just no, You're not gonna do that.
The Boston can't be hardcapped anyway. But that's the guy, and I
had Miles Turner right behind him. I think some people might wonder what could
it be? Karl Anthony Towns, just as I like varied that up.
What are you offering for him? Is it Derek White, Horford and Picks?
I just I don't even know if that's if that's getting it done.
So those are all the names I have for you, Rome, But I
do think I do think that Boston is I wouldn't necessarily count on it,
but let's say they lose in Game seven, or if they just lose unconvincingly
in the Eastern Conference Finals. I would say that the Celtics will look more
extensively at making some serious changes than I believe that people would have initially thought.
We have two more questions. I'm already going longer than I wanted to,
but let's see if we can get to them. This one comes from
Carrigan. But what do you what do you think of a potential Jordan Pool
to the Jazz trade. I think he could be given the keys to the
offense. They're barring something crazy happening in the draft lottery and the Jazz of
the cap space to absorb his contract to help gsw's money situation. So who
I guess this? I would assume or presumes that the Warriors would want to
get out of Green's money so bad they're willing just to dump it into Utah's
cap space. I don't think they're there yet with him, even as scared
as they are of their packs bill where right now? If you bring Ramon
back his prior number, you're looking at basically half a billion dollars in luxury
taxes and just raw player salary. Jordan Pool in Utah, especially because they're
spacing that's super interesting. But you already have Colin Sexton. I guess if
you don't think you're going to bring back Jordan Clarkson because he's a free agent,
there's more rhyme and reason of that, and Pool crully fits their timeline
better and they're not too guard heavy after that. I don't know what the
fuck town Horton Tucker is. He's probably like a wing with thing like a
guard him a wing or something. So and YO, are they going to
bring Chris Done back? There's there's room for him. I would say having
Colin Sexton it feels sort of redundant there. But you can bring Collin Sexton
off the bench because that's what you just did. I just I think the
Warriors are gonna want value. He's one hundred and twenty two million dollars guaranteed
over the next four years. Right now. There's there's a case me that
that might be the worst contract in the NBA. I don't know if I'm
speaking out of turn there. That's gonna have to be something I say,
if to post to grant. So if you're willing to accept it out right,
I mean, do you really punt on him like that. You just
punted on James Wiseman. Things are not going well with John Ncomingo because he's
not playing Moses movies a mild success story. And then if if you are
a golden state, where are you getting? Would Jazz give up just a
first round pick, a throwaway first round pick, not one of their own,
Maybe it's a heavily protected one of Cleveland first round pick, one of
this year's late first round picks, just to get him. And do the
Warriors do that? I think it would be a tough sell because they still
view Pool when he's on it's super important to what they're doing. And let's
say they want assets, and let's say Utah and through or be willing to
give them one what like are they are? They gonna want contexts and over
Jordan Pool? That's just you'd probably rather take the upside swing of Jordan Pool
at this point. Still, although maybe you trust the bank ability of a
context in and then beyond that, you touch has sent them a lot to
offer. They're not going to give you akbaji. They're definitely not going to
give you lowry market in and they're not gonna give you Walker Kessler, so
I would be intrigued. If the Warriors are actually looking to dump Pool,
I would argue to Spurs should get involved on that, even though he could
give Greg Popovitch a heart attack. I just I don't see the pathway to
a trade with Utah because I do think the Warriors are going to demand value,
and I don't think Utah should or would give up anything of real value
for him. And even if they were willing to do that, I just
I don't know what the package looks like here. They're limited in Alfremn as
material assets. They have the first round picks, but that doesn't mean as
much to a team like the Warriors. Yeah, they're concerned about their tax
bill, but they also need help now if they're willing to dump Pool,
though, I'm sure that they could find a team that would. The magic
could come in and they can create enough cap space while keeping their core intact
to do that. Last one comes from Peto Shout Out, Peto Carras Lavert,
Dylan Brooks sign and Trade Swap, who says no, I don't want
to say everyone because that feels unnecessarily mean, but definitely the Calves they need
shooting out of the three spot, not glorified like a more damaging Isaaca Corol,
because he's gonna try and do more stuff with the ball on his hands
on offense. I do think, you know, Caros Lavert in Memphis is
sort of interesting. It's just that other ball handler type who defended better than
I thought this year, didn't have the best playoffs, but he did shoot
like better off the catch during the regular season. Could the Grizzlies find used
for him? Absolutely? Do they apply him with both Baying and Marette?
You could try it. Don't necessarily know what it looks like, but I
think they would be. I mean, they're looking to get rid of Dillon
Brooks anyway they would And how are the Grizzlies. You could talk yourself into
it if you don't think you can like address a higher end option. I
think that they need more of a wing or a Lisa Combo forward, and
Caros Lavert is if you want to call him a wing, that that's a
little ambitious, but he's not that so I would say I think both teams
probably say now. I think Cleveland's way more likely to say no her they
need capslock. I think at this point you just want to get capslock shooting
on the wings, even if it comes in the form of a defensive liability,
because we saw how you're going to be defended in the playoffs, and
so someone like Dylan Brooks definitely isn't gonna cut it. Someone like even Jay
Crowder wouldn't cut it. Tory Craig, No, Max Struc. Yeah,
you just you can't afford him. I would say the bare minimum would be,
can you get a Josh Richardson and stick him at the three? And
he probably provides like the bare minimum of enough shooting, but they need more
of a capslock shooter there. You don't want them to be a defensive liability
Dylan Brooks. Then you guys would be Dylan Brooks, Evan Wibley, and
Jared Allen. That would be sort of a wild defensive Like I just feel
like you can get a lot of the same stuff outside of Isaaco Corrol.
Dylan Brooks is gonna better at defending sort of the bigger, burlier guys.
He can go up and down their spectrum a little bit more than Isaaco Corol
right now. But yeah, no, I can't see this from Cleveland.
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