1 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:20,519 What is krack a lack in fellow thermonem queer a efforts, I am a 2 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:24,719 damp valley coming at you with another mail bag before we get started to use 3 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,559 your reminders. Please you can support the show by subscribing to the show, 4 00:00:28,679 --> 00:00:32,000 and if you have subscribed to it, make sure you've subscribed across all platforms 5 00:00:32,039 --> 00:00:35,719 wherever you get your podcast, plus YouTube as well. Like comment on YouTube 6 00:00:35,759 --> 00:00:40,799 videos to help the algorithm love us back. Also write reviews and ratings on 7 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,240 Apple and Spotify. That helps us out at crap Ton as well. 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But we'll begin 15 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:18,959 with and this is fairly topical since all these all rookie All NBA teams were 16 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:26,079 released this week, but Austin asked the question was, where is it, 17 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:30,480 oh, with all the new with an all NBA teams out and allow of 18 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:34,079 them not making the new requirements for games played, do you think we'll actually 19 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:38,120 get more games out of stars next season or will we start seeing lower tier 20 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:42,640 players win all the awards. I know Draymond's concern was that we would see 21 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:48,480 lower tier players when the awards. I think that that's a distinct possibility. 22 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,799 And I think, look, when you look at just the all NBA teams 23 00:01:51,879 --> 00:02:00,000 in general, I don't know that I had any stark issues with them. 24 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,959 I get, well, I don't get I know some people were annoyed that 25 00:02:04,079 --> 00:02:08,039 Luca Dante and Shakilra's Alexander made the cut when their teams didn't even make it 26 00:02:08,199 --> 00:02:13,919 out or two in Luca's case, the play in I just those teams were 27 00:02:14,039 --> 00:02:17,319 demonstrative net plus when those two were on the court. Do we penalize them 28 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:21,479 for the minutes that they're not on the floor. I guess the argument then 29 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,520 becomes that, well, they could have elevated their team to greater high school 30 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:28,120 they were on the court or in certain games because then their team would have 31 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,400 been better off. You need to make the case to me that Shae Guilders 32 00:02:30,439 --> 00:02:35,080 Alexander wasn't the top ten NBA player this year. And I don't think winning 33 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:40,080 necessarily needs to be criteria here. So I mean, the thing that stood 34 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:44,000 out, I was a little bit surprised that Jalon Brown made a second team 35 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,800 All NBA. That did take me off guard a little bit. I wasn't 36 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,919 nothing else really shocked me, though, And I don't think that there were 37 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,639 any just super egregious, incredible snubs. And there's always when you're gonna list 38 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:59,120 the snubs, you have to say who you're going to bounce off. And 39 00:02:59,159 --> 00:03:04,199 so if you wanted to bounce Julius Randol off for Pascal Siakam or for you 40 00:03:04,199 --> 00:03:06,759 know, Kevin Durant or Kawhi Leonard, because you don't think that the game's 41 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,520 played mattered as much, I don't know, you know, I don't necessarily 42 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:13,360 know what the case was when we really dig into the metrics. Even for 43 00:03:13,479 --> 00:03:16,120 James Harden to get in over a Damian Lillard, maybe over Dion Fox, 44 00:03:16,199 --> 00:03:21,520 but Fox did have the more. He had a better defensive season that's for 45 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:25,280 sure, and he had the glitzier season in many respects when you're looking at 46 00:03:25,439 --> 00:03:30,719 minutes played and when you're also just looking at I believe his scoring average was 47 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,840 higher. So like you can look at those raw numbers, you could dig 48 00:03:34,159 --> 00:03:36,240 into some of the impact metrics. I did. We did that when we 49 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,000 were actually doing our all MBA teams. Grant and I no major snubs here 50 00:03:39,039 --> 00:03:44,080 though about what would happen because they went through the list and you know, 51 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,240 so in the you know Lebron and Steph and I think Dame, like these 52 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:53,759 are guys that wouldn't have qualified under the under the new rules. And I 53 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:59,199 think what you're gonna see happen is that there might be seasons in which lower 54 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,719 tier players and make it define I think we didn't need to define lower tier 55 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,960 because if you were to put well, I guess you know, Kevin Durant 56 00:04:06,039 --> 00:04:10,240 wouldn't be an option here. But if you were to put or Kawhi Leonard. 57 00:04:10,599 --> 00:04:13,800 But if you were to put Pascal Siakam in this, does that qualify 58 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,839 as a lower tier player? I mean, like then domas a bonus on 59 00:04:16,879 --> 00:04:19,680 that level. I honestly don't know, but I do think when it comes 60 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:24,759 to for the most part, especially the younger guys, where maybe you know, 61 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,959 Lebron just made his nineteenth All MBA team, He's probably not going to 62 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,839 give a fuck. Something like Kevin Durant might not give a fuck and didn't 63 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,519 really have an option or say in the matter because of injuries. But even 64 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:38,720 let's use a Damian lower. I just think All MBA means enough to these 65 00:04:38,759 --> 00:04:41,959 guys, especially when for many of them, like a Jaylen Brown, like 66 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,560 a Jason Tatum as well, it's tied to their contract. Then that their 67 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,600 incentives there, They're going to continue to go for it. And maybe we'd 68 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:51,279 even see Luca been like you know, if the Mavericks tried to shut him 69 00:04:51,319 --> 00:04:55,920 down earlier, just just dispensed with that attempt. And so I'm not too 70 00:04:55,959 --> 00:04:59,319 concerned about there being a lower tier of player involved. I'll have to I 71 00:04:59,319 --> 00:05:01,959 think we need to like see it play out for two to three seasons, 72 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,800 but it's a distinct possibility, and there might be years and in which it 73 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:11,000 happens, but I do think it'll be if that ever happens, and when 74 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:15,920 it has happened, it will primarily be because of injuries, not because guys 75 00:05:15,959 --> 00:05:18,279 they were getting shut down or load managed to the point that they weren't playing 76 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,759 in that many games. There'll always be cases where Okay, maybe this really 77 00:05:20,759 --> 00:05:25,839 fux Kawhi Leonard out of ever making an All NBA team again, But I 78 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:30,439 don't think it's going to result in just like this massive exodus of the you 79 00:05:30,439 --> 00:05:35,560 know, the usual faces here. So yeah, that's where I land on 80 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:42,120 that. Let's get into the discord fund here at a bunch of good questions 81 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,920 this week. Scrolling through them, I ran out, I didn't have my 82 00:05:46,079 --> 00:05:47,319 usual time to prep for these, so this is going to be more of 83 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:51,680 an off the cuff thing. But that's you know, that can be fun 84 00:05:51,759 --> 00:05:57,759 as well. So where oh, here we go? So Carragan asked, 85 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,079 how do you feel? Oh boy, he's this is what the Knicks down 86 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,800 three to two. As I record this, karak And asked, how do 87 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:10,240 you feel about the Donovan Mitchell fiasco? Now they think they would have been 88 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,160 better by making the trade worse or you're still hoping the Nicks get him eventually 89 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,879 in free agency. I'm not looking ahead to Donovan Mitchell's free agency, which 90 00:06:15,879 --> 00:06:19,759 I think is in not twenty three or twenty four, twenty five I think 91 00:06:19,759 --> 00:06:23,759 it's in twenty twenty five, or should double double check that. So no, 92 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,920 I'm not thinking about Dondo Mitchell's free agency. Do I think they should 93 00:06:27,959 --> 00:06:30,879 have done it knowing what they were this season, I don't know, and 94 00:06:30,959 --> 00:06:35,480 knowing how topsy turvy topsy turvy r J Barretts here was where it would have 95 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:39,279 looked like a home run if he was sort of the primary fodder for that 96 00:06:39,319 --> 00:06:43,000 trade, and now it's he's playing well enough in the playoffs where people are 97 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,720 gonna have high expectations for him. Again, I'm ultimately still okay that they 98 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,120 didn't make the move, And I think what would be most troubling is if 99 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:55,240 they turn around after this postseason, because I do expect them to lose in 100 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,040 this round to Miami at some point, even if they take it to a 101 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,720 game seven. Is if you double down on this exact corp and treat yourself 102 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:04,480 as, oh, we're kind of just role players away. They still needing 103 00:07:04,519 --> 00:07:06,959 Grant and I talked about this like they still need a best player in a 104 00:07:06,959 --> 00:07:11,480 playoff series type of guy. Jalen Brunson can be that sometimes for a game, 105 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,160 but over the course of a longer stretch as great as he is, 106 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,000 he's just going to be better than your number two. And could Donno Mitchell 107 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:21,040 technually be that player? Sure, I don't know if it changes the dynamic 108 00:07:21,079 --> 00:07:24,560 of the team at all, where yes, quickly before he gets injured. 109 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,759 Not great in the playoffs, but he finishes runner up in six Men of 110 00:07:27,759 --> 00:07:30,959 the Year voting as that type of a breakout. What does getting Donovo Mitchell 111 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,600 do to his Quentin grinds. He's still on the team and he's become an 112 00:07:33,639 --> 00:07:38,120 important part. Are you as likely to have then go out and trade a 113 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:42,920 Josh Hard after that? It's just really tough to know whether the Nick should 114 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,399 regret like the asking price there, I don't think Donno Mitchell would have made 115 00:07:46,439 --> 00:07:49,040 them much more menacing, if at all like they're feeling. To me, 116 00:07:49,079 --> 00:07:51,319 still would have been okay, they made it to the Eastern Conference finals. 117 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:56,160 I'm not going to pick them to be Philly or Boston. And I think 118 00:07:56,199 --> 00:08:01,000 you could argue that maybe the defense would be less equipped because maybe you wouldn't 119 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,600 have Grimes or buyer It as part of that Donovan Mitchell trade. And how 120 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,360 would that have served you against the Cleveland Cavalier's team, which you've made other 121 00:08:07,399 --> 00:08:11,519 moves to where you don't wait out the Josh Hart market and think about how 122 00:08:11,519 --> 00:08:13,920 important he was. It's just and then what does it look like for Julius 123 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,720 Randall who gets nudged down another rung in the pecking order, Whereas right now 124 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:22,600 he can be the one or the two depending on Brunton distributes. But I 125 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:26,839 think he takes over games. He knows what he needs to. Julius friend 126 00:08:26,839 --> 00:08:28,639 all of a sudden becomes just like the third guy or the second guy, 127 00:08:28,639 --> 00:08:33,240 where's vascillating between there where there's no path to him really being a clear number 128 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,320 one unless he's playing with bench heavy units. That probably doesn't look like a 129 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,960 great role for him. We know it can happen when you get him moving 130 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,080 downhill, and we know that he can hit picking pops, but just he 131 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:45,559 needs to be on the ball. I think for him to have any sort 132 00:08:45,759 --> 00:08:50,440 of overarching and gave engagement, especially on defense, which he often does not. 133 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,399 Anyway, I don't know. I don't know if they're better off. 134 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:56,480 I wouldn't say they're worse off either, but I do think that this season 135 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:00,200 kind of underscores. Yeah, it was Cinderella campaign in many ways, you 136 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,320 still need that best player in a playoff series type of cornerstone, and they 137 00:09:03,399 --> 00:09:07,919 quite frankly don't have it. And if it were me, and we'll get 138 00:09:07,919 --> 00:09:09,080 into this deeper in the offseason, like yeah, I would look at moving 139 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,679 Julius Randall and going from there. It doesn't have to be for a start, 140 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:16,240 but to open things up for the development of other guys and other types 141 00:09:16,279 --> 00:09:18,799 of lineup, smaller lineups, but also just to kind of clear the deck 142 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,120 if you're actually invested in our Jane. If you're not going to do that, 143 00:09:22,159 --> 00:09:26,399 then you need to go on the trade market and use what assets you 144 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:31,320 have, which are plenty right now, to acquire one of the market names 145 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,519 that becomes. I don't know who will be there. Maybe Jaylen Brown's on 146 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:37,120 the market if he turns down to Supermac's extension, and we have a question 147 00:09:37,159 --> 00:09:41,519 on related to that in a little bit. But yeah, I don't feel 148 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,519 any worse about and I felt pretty good about them not making the trade, 149 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,879 even if it was sort of accidental where you would like them to say no, 150 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:48,600 that that cost was too high, is not going to do it. 151 00:09:48,519 --> 00:09:52,679 It just sort of seems like the Jazz said fuck this and phased them out. 152 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:56,039 Because the Knicks thought they had more leverage than they actually did. But 153 00:09:56,120 --> 00:10:00,679 I don't think Mitchell would have turned them into a more of a threat to 154 00:10:00,759 --> 00:10:03,679 come out of the East this season. What you've given them a clearer pathway 155 00:10:03,399 --> 00:10:09,559 maybe as that singular player, but he would have definitely bankrupted your asset well 156 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,039 to the point where it's, well, how long until we can then afford 157 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:15,279 to trade for this next star? That might be a dilemma they run into 158 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,279 whenever, But does John Brunson have as good a season if he's playing next 159 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:22,440 to Donovan Mitchell instead of Julius Randall and RJ Barrett? I don't And obviously 160 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:28,120 this crew, I honestly don't know. But I'm more interested in seeing what 161 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:33,360 the Knicks are going to do this offseason, and and I think that they 162 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:37,200 just need to be careful not to double down on what's just sort of this 163 00:10:37,919 --> 00:10:41,960 mediocre not mediocre model. They're clearly better than mediocre, but just not double 164 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,320 down on. Okay, this is a team that can win a playoff round, 165 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,279 but are they really ever going to contend for a title is currently constructed? 166 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:54,080 The answer to that is no. Next question comes from Cyborgian If you 167 00:10:54,399 --> 00:10:58,519 Grant and Jesus played MJ and the Devil in a pickup game? Who would 168 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:05,519 win? Whoever has Me and Grant the team. I think that's pretty obvious. 169 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:07,159 Grant, I just feel like he's tall, so I just feel like 170 00:11:07,159 --> 00:11:11,919 he's gonna be super good at basketball. At hoops, I'm not good, 171 00:11:11,919 --> 00:11:13,279 but I have a lefty hook shot, and I would think that that be 172 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:20,480 enough to be Jordan and the Devil, who I didn't know hooped at all. 173 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:28,559 Next question comes from unbiased Pistons fan. This one's wild. What's the 174 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,200 trade package for the number one pick this year? All the Thunders picks, 175 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:35,200 all the Pelicans picks? What's the biggest package you could see being or offered 176 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:39,679 up? And this is kind of a repeat of a question that we already 177 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:45,440 had about would you give up? How many picks with the Thunder specifically need 178 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,960 to give up to to get the number one pick from whoever has it this 179 00:11:50,039 --> 00:11:52,759 year? As me, it's not them, since they will be in the 180 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,600 liary. Excuse me, it's like five thirty am here, I'm exhausted. 181 00:11:56,120 --> 00:12:01,519 I don't know what the offer is it would I think the most tantalizing one 182 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:05,799 would include an actual player where it's depending on which team wins it is. 183 00:12:05,879 --> 00:12:11,559 What if the Mavericks just decided to rebuild and they offered you Luca for Victor 184 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:15,039 one Bama, Or what if the Bucks decided to just go a wholesale pivot 185 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,759 and they offered Juhani's. I think that's where things would get interesting when you're 186 00:12:18,759 --> 00:12:24,240 looking at actual picks. I don't know if the Thunder said, we'll give 187 00:12:24,279 --> 00:12:28,480 you ten unprotected first round We'll give you ten of like we have this mission 188 00:12:28,519 --> 00:12:31,360 maash of Clipper's first rounders and Rockets first rounders, and we'll give you, 189 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,919 you know, as many unprotected first rounds of our own as we can, 190 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,799 Let's say four, So the totals like seven or eight unprotected first rounders. 191 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:43,159 Do I think the team that's gonna draft one Byamba considers it? Probably not. 192 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,679 I'm not gonna lie like, but that would be I mean, maybe 193 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,320 they do. It's just so many picks. I also don't think they would 194 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:52,840 offer it. But assuming they did, I believe whichever team wins a lottery 195 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:56,000 probably says no. And I'm trying to think of the team that could win 196 00:12:56,039 --> 00:12:58,320 the lottery and then maybe say yes. That's just sort of on a more 197 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:03,960 gradual time line and would rather have those bites at the apple. I guess 198 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:07,320 Utah like Danny like Danny Age would certainly be the guy to do that. 199 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,440 But you already have so many picks of your own, like how much? 200 00:13:09,519 --> 00:13:13,919 How many more do you do you actually need? So I can't even think 201 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:18,840 of a team that would win the lottery and prioritize the Hall. It would 202 00:13:18,879 --> 00:13:24,080 have to be something insane where it's all those draft picks plus a shay there. 203 00:13:24,159 --> 00:13:26,360 And the answer to that would be no, because it defeats the purpose 204 00:13:26,399 --> 00:13:31,679 for for the thunder. Next question, Cosmic Raccoon. Should the Bucks do 205 00:13:31,759 --> 00:13:37,360 a restructure this offseason around Johannis in order to assemble a younger supporting cast. 206 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:43,919 I feel like the Bucks are drifting, are drifting towards an Iceberg by locking 207 00:13:43,919 --> 00:13:46,879 into a supporting cast that is older than Jannis and then steady to climb around 208 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:48,559 him. If they lock onto this path, he'll definitely leave in a couple 209 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:52,480 of years. But if they trade Drew, maybe sign and trade Lopez, 210 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,639 don't lock into Middleton, get younger and aimed to have max cap space. 211 00:13:54,759 --> 00:13:58,919 Next Sauseason, maybe they can create a new younger supporting cast around Jonas. 212 00:14:00,399 --> 00:14:05,960 I do think that this is kind of a fascinating dilemma that the Bucks have, 213 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:11,440 or a fascinating scenario. I oldly don't think it's what the Bucks do, 214 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:16,399 because one, they're so draft pick poor right now. You become very 215 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:20,519 reliant on free agency, and I don't know, given what's going to happen 216 00:14:20,559 --> 00:14:24,759 in the new CBA, whether the machinations are in place for you to actually 217 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:30,159 improve your team a great deal through that route. One. Walkee's never been 218 00:14:30,279 --> 00:14:33,200 this hot button destination, even since Johnas has been there. You could argue 219 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,399 that, okay, well have they ever been a MA cap space team? 220 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:39,679 That's all fair, But the best way to improve your roster would order to 221 00:14:39,759 --> 00:14:43,279 change it up would probably be okay, well, can you get enough high 222 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:48,000 end draft equity out of Drew and a brook Lopez sign and trade and maybe 223 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:52,559 the same thing with Middleton to re stack your deck and make another mega trade 224 00:14:52,919 --> 00:14:54,360 when it you know, in a year or two. In addition, when 225 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:58,440 you have your cap space or whatever as well. I don't. I don't 226 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:03,759 know. It's it's certainly worth discussing. Brook Lopez is going to be thirty 227 00:15:03,759 --> 00:15:07,120 five next year. We know Chris Middleton's getting up there in years. He 228 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:13,279 can look the same defensively when he came when he came back from basically it 229 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,360 felt like a litany of injuries. But when he came back from the second 230 00:15:16,399 --> 00:15:20,120 injury or a second return, whatever you want to call it, maybe it's 231 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,879 different if you think that. Okay, let's say you're angling to have the 232 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:28,679 space in two twenty four, do you know, like who is the do 233 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,799 you know Jalen Brown's going to be a free agent and he turned down that 234 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:35,960 Max's extension? Who else are you trying to go after there? It's not 235 00:15:35,679 --> 00:15:41,279 really just like this well of great free agents at that point you're looking, 236 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:45,039 Oh, Klay Thompson, who's just going to be I think it will be 237 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,559 age thirty four at that point. Pascal Siakam, he'd be interesting, but 238 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:54,279 definitely a questionable fit next to Jannis. If you're then asking Jannis to what 239 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,720 we have to trust us and punt on two more years and then we're gonna 240 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:00,440 go after like Paul George or Kawhi Leonard or Anthony Davis, Like those guys 241 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,080 just aren't gonna be super young at that point. Either. Lebron will be 242 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,519 forty when you think Kahi will be thirty four, Paul George will be thirty 243 00:16:06,519 --> 00:16:10,960 five, Andy Davis will be heading He'll be over thirty two at that point. 244 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:15,399 So brandon Ingram okay, like you, but you're gonna wait out for 245 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,840 brandon Ingram for two years. I don't think you can explore that scenario unless 246 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:23,639 the offers for all those guys are just so can't miss to where you're really 247 00:16:23,679 --> 00:16:29,840 restocking your draft well, not to necessarily use those picks and then then hit 248 00:16:29,919 --> 00:16:33,960 on them, but can you have enough assets to then turn around and make 249 00:16:34,039 --> 00:16:37,840 another star type trade if you know, if you're if the whole goal is 250 00:16:37,879 --> 00:16:41,440 to buide your time for when the couple comes a free agent, if you 251 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,600 really need cap space and someone's willing to come to Milwaukee, you can just 252 00:16:44,639 --> 00:16:48,679 figure out a way to create cap space at that time, no matter how 253 00:16:48,759 --> 00:16:51,720 much you need, like, you can always just figure out a way. 254 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,120 Now, what is an issue, and I would recognize is the buckses of 255 00:16:55,159 --> 00:16:57,600 Now, if they're gonna keep all these guys like they're gonna hit, they'll 256 00:16:57,759 --> 00:17:03,640 outside in all likelihood that second apron or that basically you know what the second 257 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:08,599 apron or hardcap masquerading as a second apron to where they are going to be 258 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:12,119 very limited in what they can do in trades. They can't trade a draft 259 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,319 pick seven years out, so they would only be able to trade their twenty 260 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,160 twenty nine first, but that would have been whatever. Anyway, they're not 261 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:22,119 gonna be able to use their minimid level exception, and so you get into 262 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,839 the scenario of, well, then we're just obligated to pay angles and Jay 263 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:32,400 crowd over because we can, and you have your one draft pick mar John 264 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,880 bow Champ and then salary offer that you can dangle and hope that gets you 265 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:37,200 someone in a trade. So you're already like, no, forget you can't 266 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:41,440 acquire anyone and sign and trade. That's not that's just not happening for you. 267 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,640 You're not gonna be able to spend to not even be able to sign 268 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,480 or you will be able to sign free agents to the minimum, but you're 269 00:17:48,519 --> 00:17:51,599 gonna be rolling the dice. And it's oh, did Joshua Kobe's value plummet 270 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,599 or Tory craigs value plummet in the Phoenix Sun series to where maybe they would 271 00:17:53,599 --> 00:17:59,839 come on board. I don't know, but I think this is a This 272 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:03,319 is a great question, cosmic raccoon. I just can't. If I were 273 00:18:03,319 --> 00:18:06,200 to say, should the bucks are Dude, I'm just gonna say no. 274 00:18:07,559 --> 00:18:10,359 If anything, I would kind of look at it as you need to just 275 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:14,000 make this one last run, and if you're if you show that you're on 276 00:18:14,039 --> 00:18:18,640 the verge of something, or you at least put yourself in position to where, 277 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,640 Okay, we brought these guys back, but all these deals are movable, 278 00:18:22,559 --> 00:18:23,519 or at least, oh, we got far enough into playoffs, or 279 00:18:23,599 --> 00:18:27,000 Jhannis knows that we're you know, like serious, and that will be able 280 00:18:27,039 --> 00:18:30,960 to rebuild on the fly because we've conserved our assets. When these guys are 281 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,319 older and coming off the books, I think what they actually should do, 282 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:37,240 well, let me frame it this way, because I'm all over the place 283 00:18:37,279 --> 00:18:38,839 with this question. It's just it's so tough throughout my head around. I 284 00:18:38,839 --> 00:18:41,519 don't think they should do it, because what precious time you have with Jannis 285 00:18:41,559 --> 00:18:45,559 now unless he's unless he's going to sign his own extension. If he does 286 00:18:45,599 --> 00:18:48,000 that, then it's a whole different story, and it's all right, we 287 00:18:48,039 --> 00:18:52,200 can play the longer game. But if he's gonna have actual free agency, 288 00:18:52,279 --> 00:18:55,359 looming over. I don't think you can afford to take a step back, 289 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:59,440 even for one year. I don't know what they do this offseason specifically, 290 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,920 I'd probably howk around their best trade package that they could if you really wanted 291 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:07,720 to look at it, could you see is it worth changing things up by 292 00:19:07,799 --> 00:19:10,880 dangling Drew Holiday? See what you can get for him. I just don't 293 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:12,720 think you're gonna get a reasonable enough upgrade. You know you're not. You 294 00:19:12,759 --> 00:19:15,240 don't have enough assets to attach to Drew Holiday for instance, to go we 295 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:19,359 can get Jaylen Brown if that's somebody that ends up being on the on the 296 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:23,599 market. So I don't know, there's no easy answer, but I think 297 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:27,720 it's you are obligated to bring this careback within reason of Middleton's gonna get a 298 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:32,599 max salary of forty plus million dollars from the from the Houston Rockets. Yeah, 299 00:19:32,599 --> 00:19:33,160 then you need to take a step back and say, Okay, what 300 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:37,559 are we doing here? Or unless the offers are just so over the top, 301 00:19:37,599 --> 00:19:38,559 and I just don't know what teams are going to come in and be 302 00:19:38,599 --> 00:19:42,759 like, we need Drew Holiday, so we're gonna give you three first rounders 303 00:19:42,799 --> 00:19:47,920 and they're all going to be unprotected or something with him for it's you're obligated. 304 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,920 It's more important to me, in my opinion, to capitalize on Joannest's 305 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:56,720 window. Next question comes from Glad. This was a good one I did. 306 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:02,039 I did look at this one and did some cursory research on it, 307 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:06,480 so I don't know how the math would work, how it would slash I 308 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:08,720 will be intended, but there should should there be some sort of stipulation that 309 00:20:08,759 --> 00:20:11,079 have teams to the number one pick overall, say in the last three years, 310 00:20:11,079 --> 00:20:14,680 they shouldn't be allowed to be there again in the following year. So 311 00:20:14,759 --> 00:20:18,160 like teams like the Pistons, Magic and t Wols wouldn't be eligible for the 312 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:19,759 number one pick this year. You could expand it to the top three if 313 00:20:19,799 --> 00:20:22,279 you wanted, but that makes things a little too complicated. It just feels 314 00:20:22,279 --> 00:20:25,720 like the same few teams have been in the top three the last few years. 315 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,960 Shout out Houston Rockets in terms of who I'm adding their shout out Houston 316 00:20:30,039 --> 00:20:32,400 Rockets in terms of who had the best odds, And it kind of feels 317 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,920 weird, slash unfair that they had chances to grab the best players available and 318 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,839 I've done nothing with them. Oh, call rockets. I didn't read the 319 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,799 end of this. Apparently, I would call it the Pistons. But at 320 00:20:40,839 --> 00:20:42,599 least they can blame injuries. Also, I will acknowledge that the new system 321 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:47,359 typically has been good. I'm not rewarding the worst teams perfectly with the best 322 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:52,400 draft picks. So there is a version of this where it was like the 323 00:20:52,519 --> 00:21:00,960 NBA Draft lottery wheel, and it was essentially scheduled out where you would know 324 00:21:02,319 --> 00:21:06,039 who had these. It wasn't even a lottery anymore. It was the wheel, 325 00:21:06,079 --> 00:21:11,599 and it was proposed by Mike's Aaron, he was the at the time. 326 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,839 He was the like general manager of the Celtics. But you would essentially 327 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,759 know where you're picking years in advance and whether you're picking number one, and 328 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:26,440 you would beat to schedule your rebuild around that. And he's had a VP 329 00:21:26,559 --> 00:21:27,480 of Celtics. I was just googling me. No, I didn't know that 330 00:21:27,519 --> 00:21:32,640 he had been elevated to VP of Basketball Operations and team Council. I'm so 331 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:34,680 I know where people are for the most part of that. I got tripped 332 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,759 up on Sam Quim during a radio hit today. I just totally spaced on 333 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:44,920 where he was at the moment, but the titles are just getting so hard 334 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,680 to keep track of. I gotta say an in case anyone's you know, 335 00:21:48,839 --> 00:21:56,640 in case anyone's like, actually actually upset, I apologize that I couldn't remember 336 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:02,480 what the title was for Mike's Aaron in Boston. Any How, the Wheel, 337 00:22:02,599 --> 00:22:03,759 I was never a fan of it because I don't think you can plan 338 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,319 rebuilds. An injury could throw your season entirely off. And I still like 339 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:11,359 the element of randomness. This proposal is probably a little bit different, and 340 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:17,000 I've seen stuff written that's similar to it. I'm ultimately against it because I 341 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,119 don't know, Yeah, there's a team, like the Rockets have mismanaged their 342 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:25,160 assets, but let's say the Spurs or bottom three team again next year. 343 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,359 Is that because that they've failed or they just early on in their rebuild and 344 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:32,200 they're going through the real motions. And I just feel like the Rockets are 345 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,799 sort of an extreme example. First of all, we don't even know if 346 00:22:34,799 --> 00:22:37,319 they're going to pick in the top three this year. They dechinically could still 347 00:22:37,319 --> 00:22:41,680 fall out of it. But the Rockets feel like just sort of this extreme 348 00:22:41,799 --> 00:22:45,240 example. But if you wanted to create another element of randomness, I just 349 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,400 given how important it is for small markets to get players through the draft now, 350 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:52,599 and look, fuck how important is for team to just get players to 351 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,079 the drafts in general, because free agency is just becoming increasingly irrelevant, and 352 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:57,799 I think I don't think that's going to change, if anything, it worsens 353 00:22:57,839 --> 00:23:03,799 with the new CBA. So I don't know that you can tell teams Okay, 354 00:23:03,839 --> 00:23:07,880 you're gonna get if you have one top three pick, and what if 355 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,960 it's really not your fault if that's how three pick gets injured and now you've 356 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,720 derailed another season, but you don't have the trade off of like think about 357 00:23:12,759 --> 00:23:17,799 okay, see with chet Homegren this year as an example, you get chet 358 00:23:17,839 --> 00:23:19,559 Homegren at number two, and now let's just say, okay, we can't 359 00:23:19,599 --> 00:23:23,000 be in the top three for again for X amount of years he gets injured. 360 00:23:23,039 --> 00:23:26,200 But you don't already have Shay Gil just Alexander in place. Now. 361 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,880 They did game the system to get there, based on how they kind of 362 00:23:30,319 --> 00:23:33,400 use, how they kind of how they shut down, says Alexander last season. 363 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,720 But I think the new system has been mostly fine as is, and 364 00:23:37,759 --> 00:23:41,319 I'd be mostly against it. Maybe if you want to go, okay, 365 00:23:41,319 --> 00:23:42,759 a third time. So in this case, Houston, you were in the 366 00:23:42,799 --> 00:23:47,279 top three. If you're could you make it sort of just like how we 367 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:52,839 handle the repeater tax repeater tax clock, just in a different variation and say, 368 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:56,000 oh, you've been in the top three and two of the last three 369 00:23:56,079 --> 00:23:59,160 years. Oh, you can't be in the top three again this year, 370 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,039 But that would be something that'd be interesting. We definitely had another wrinkle. 371 00:24:02,039 --> 00:24:03,880 I just don't know, then, how do you determine what do your odds 372 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,759 get bounced down to? How do you determine where you actually fall in that? 373 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,759 Is it like you can't automatically throw them to the bottom. That'd be 374 00:24:11,799 --> 00:24:15,279 fucked up. You can't just have them flip flop places with you know, 375 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,839 fourth place. Let's say if you have the third worst record, which I 376 00:24:17,839 --> 00:24:21,000 think Houston did this year. But I'd be interested to see what that model 377 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:25,160 would actually look like. And how you know is it just okay if you've 378 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:26,640 done you've been in the top three and two of the last three years, 379 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:33,440 your lottery odds get slashed in path and those extra ping pong balls get divvy 380 00:24:33,559 --> 00:24:37,480 up evenly amongst all the other teams in the lottery. I don't know, 381 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:42,759 interesting question, and it wouldn't shock me if we have more lottery reform in 382 00:24:42,799 --> 00:24:48,480 the future. I just don't necessarily think that that there would be a need 383 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,799 for that right now, especially again because of how irrelevant free agency has become 384 00:24:52,839 --> 00:24:56,200 and how important draft picks are to either one develop or using those star trades 385 00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:00,680 that teams are ultimately looking for. Next question from Herb Jones Enjoyer, what 386 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:06,720 does Herb Jones need to do to get some respect? They are referring, 387 00:25:06,759 --> 00:25:11,599 of course, the fact that Herb Jones did not make an all defensive team. 388 00:25:11,599 --> 00:25:17,400 My response here would be the ship's hard And in speaking of all defense 389 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:21,119 all rookie, it will very quickly just say that I was surprised Andrew nem 390 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,279 Hard didn't make an All Rookie team. I thought he probably should have been 391 00:25:23,279 --> 00:25:26,960 in there. Over most people would have said Jeremy Sollen. I think I 392 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,480 had him in him. Was it over Jalen Duran or did I put Jalen 393 00:25:30,559 --> 00:25:32,759 durn on there? And I bought no, No, I didn't have Jabari 394 00:25:32,799 --> 00:25:36,000 Smith Junior online. I don't think one of those two players should have been 395 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:41,200 bounced for Andrew man Hard, And I was kind of I thought that maybe 396 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,759 Christian Brown would get more love than he actually did, but his role was 397 00:25:44,799 --> 00:25:48,319 just so bit with Denver, I kind of understand it. But for the 398 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:49,799 all defense, for Herb Jones specifically, what does he need to do to 399 00:25:49,799 --> 00:25:55,079 get some defensive respect. Probably needs to be viewed as a forward more. 400 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,640 And I guess that doesn't matter because positions are getting just thrown out and Herb 401 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:02,440 Jones enjoyer. Pelicans were the only top ten defense without a player receiving the 402 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,680 first place vote. I didn't investigate this, but I do think that tracks 403 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:10,480 the Pelicans were six ten points allowed per possession, per leading the glass and 404 00:26:10,599 --> 00:26:14,599 just looking at the distribution of everything else, and I know how Herb Jones 405 00:26:14,759 --> 00:26:18,160 just Herb Drones cannibalized a like and I guess it being a guard this year 406 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:22,079 probably helped him being eligible there. Just when you look at how many biggs 407 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,839 biggs are involved, and like first team alone you had Brook Lopez, Evan 408 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,359 Mobley and Jared Jackson Jr. I think that through everything for a whirl, 409 00:26:30,559 --> 00:26:33,279 and then you go to the second team had two bigs and Draymond Green and 410 00:26:33,319 --> 00:26:37,400 bam Adebayo. I probably would have had Herb over Dylan Brooks. I also 411 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,960 had Blue Dort on my team and Jade McDaniels. You're just I think that 412 00:26:41,079 --> 00:26:48,720 wings and guards specifically are more liable to get screwed now because it does feel 413 00:26:48,759 --> 00:26:52,359 like people recognize bigs the most for defense since they value were in protection so 414 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,640 much, which is ultimately fine, You're gonna get rid of positions now, 415 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,400 and I think guards will suffer more than anyone where. I think if you 416 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:03,119 look at this year, it's does Alex Caruso and Drew Holiday they both cracking 417 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:08,319 all the like I would. I would argue at least Dylan Brooks, Derek 418 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:15,079 White, Drew Holiday and Alex Crusoe. Of those four guards, probably two 419 00:27:15,079 --> 00:27:18,119 of them wouldn't have made it if we just opened this up to you know, 420 00:27:18,319 --> 00:27:21,559 position lists, and you're more comfortable, you know, than you can 421 00:27:21,599 --> 00:27:25,799 include Jannis and Jade McDaniels being viewed among voters predominantly as a poet. I 422 00:27:25,799 --> 00:27:29,440 don't know if he was eligible at guard, so I think Herb Jones gets 423 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,400 plenty of respect. I don't actually have I would I have put him in 424 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:38,200 over Dylan Brooks, Yes, anyone else on second team, I honestly don't 425 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:44,799 know og No, Derek White, No, I guess your quibbles would have 426 00:27:44,839 --> 00:27:45,839 to be and there's no one on the first team I would have put him 427 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,079 in front of I might if this might have been my exact first team, 428 00:27:48,079 --> 00:27:51,799 I can't remember. I had Ev Mosly, Jena Jackson and Juan Brook Lopez. 429 00:27:52,279 --> 00:27:53,480 I think I had Drew Holiday. Alex Crows might have been on my 430 00:27:53,519 --> 00:27:56,000 second team. I don't. I don't really know how I worked to that, 431 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,559 but I don't. I just don't view this and this shit's hard, 432 00:27:59,799 --> 00:28:03,119 And I think it's okay to be like, okay, if he wasn't even 433 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:08,400 given any consideration and he ended up being behind Jimmy Butler, Michael Bridges and 434 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:14,480 Marcus Smart, that's like, you know, in the guard section, I 435 00:28:14,519 --> 00:28:15,359 think you could make the case, oh it is you know, did lou 436 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:19,400 dort him being so far behind her Herb Jones and Michael Bridges and Marcus Smart 437 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,720 the voting section. This shit's hard. I think Herb Jones gets plenty of 438 00:28:22,759 --> 00:28:26,039 respect as a as a defensive player, though, and I don't think there's 439 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,400 there definitely flaws in the voting, And I don't think I had him on 440 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,559 my alday. He might have been in my third my third teams, I 441 00:28:33,559 --> 00:28:34,839 really should have pulled that up. I don't think I had him on on 442 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,880 one of them. Some people could have looked at minutes, but we know 443 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,279 Alscarrus allogged a few looking at guards. Specifically, he locked plenty of a 444 00:28:41,279 --> 00:28:44,480 few more minutes than Herb Jones. Jones siks on some of the toughest assignments. 445 00:28:44,519 --> 00:28:48,200 He's he's fantastic. I don't know what he needs to do to get 446 00:28:48,279 --> 00:28:51,119 more recognition. I don't know that he deserves like the needs it. I 447 00:28:51,119 --> 00:28:55,839 should say. I just don't think it was an egregious But with like the 448 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,319 when you look at the All MBA All Defense rookie teams this year, I 449 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,559 think they were all pretty strong. You can you can take issue with some 450 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,759 of you know, the Wholemark Jackson leaving a cook off his MVP baut entirely, 451 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,519 But I don't view this as just there are some surprises, I'll say 452 00:29:12,599 --> 00:29:18,440 Jalen Brown making second team, for instance, but like nothing that stands out 453 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,000 to me is, oh, this is this is unacceptable. I just think 454 00:29:21,079 --> 00:29:23,200 some years it like breaks right for you, and some years it's not. 455 00:29:23,359 --> 00:29:26,000 And look Herb Jones is I think the other thing here when you look at 456 00:29:26,039 --> 00:29:30,319 Herb Jones and Jay McDaniels, fair or not, they just don't get as 457 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,880 much. You know, for Evan Mobi to make first team as young as 458 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,720 he is is impressive because if people give benefit of the doubt to guys who 459 00:29:36,759 --> 00:29:38,440 have been in the league a little bit longer. And so if Herb Jones 460 00:29:38,519 --> 00:29:42,200 turns in this same season but it's year four instead of year two, does 461 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:49,519 that make a difference. Maybe. Next question comes from uh, this is 462 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:56,160 Drizzy Watts as does this series with the with the Celtics prove that hires Maxie 463 00:29:56,559 --> 00:30:00,680 has a has a ceiling? And where does he? As I click out 464 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,400 this window for a fish rena question, does this Celtic series show that there's 465 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,000 a ceiling on who Maxie can be on a playoff contender or is this just 466 00:30:07,119 --> 00:30:11,000 result of a bad matchup and still room to go as a player decision making? 467 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:15,720 Playmaking wise, this question was I should note asked before Kyrieks. Maxie 468 00:30:15,799 --> 00:30:19,200 went off in Game five that the Sixers won, and then he had a 469 00:30:19,279 --> 00:30:25,279 pretty strong, not as efficient Game six. I do think there are definitely 470 00:30:25,319 --> 00:30:27,319 areas I think his playoff series is identify that he needs to improve when you 471 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:32,599 look at just his takeoff points around the basket. Specifically, he's not shooting 472 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,680 well in the restricted area, and then I do think there's I'm not ready 473 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,519 to pass judgment on his playmaking just because I don't think the Sixers have him 474 00:30:40,559 --> 00:30:42,160 doing enough of it. They want him to just be the speedster on the 475 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,759 ball. If he needs to run a slowed down offense, though, that's 476 00:30:45,799 --> 00:30:48,880 something that I think he's gonna need to improve. Part of that would be 477 00:30:48,359 --> 00:30:55,279 being more unpredictable from the in between range, or maybe leaning on or developing 478 00:30:55,359 --> 00:30:57,319 the step back or pull up jumper a little bit more. Part of this 479 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,039 is now his role. He just definitely and had a chance to develop in 480 00:31:00,079 --> 00:31:03,319 this capacity over the past year and a half since the James Harden trade. 481 00:31:06,119 --> 00:31:08,279 Still, can he become more of a mid range player. He's one of 482 00:31:08,319 --> 00:31:12,559 seven on stepbacks in the Celtics series. I do think nothing about this series 483 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:17,359 is discouraging for me. The Celtics are uniquely built to hassle him, and 484 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,480 I'd say he's probably been better defensively for stretches than I would expect. In 485 00:31:19,599 --> 00:31:23,160 Game six, the Celtics would go out of their way too, if they 486 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,240 had Maxi switched on got Maxi switched on their ball hand or they would then 487 00:31:26,279 --> 00:31:30,000 go see got a second bass for me to try and get James Harden involved 488 00:31:30,319 --> 00:31:33,559 in the action rather than him, and so you know, that's kind of 489 00:31:33,599 --> 00:31:40,039 a that's kind of a win for him. But I still think Tyrese Maxie's 490 00:31:40,079 --> 00:31:45,119 ceiling with the Sixers is just so much different than Tyrese Maxi's ceiling on a 491 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,039 team that wouldn't have James hard and Jowombi because he would be allowed to do 492 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:52,559 more and develop in different ways. I don't think that's necessarily good or bad 493 00:31:52,599 --> 00:31:55,079 for his career. But I still think in this exact role that he's in, 494 00:31:55,799 --> 00:31:57,000 yeah, there are limitations you'd like to seem improve. Well, you 495 00:31:57,039 --> 00:32:00,880 have the on ball reps, two broadness horizons. I don't know. This 496 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,400 is still someone who could make an All Star team, is like the six 497 00:32:04,519 --> 00:32:07,799 or third best player. So I'm not worried about It's not just these last 498 00:32:07,839 --> 00:32:12,559 two games. I just really think that. I just think that he's still 499 00:32:12,599 --> 00:32:15,319 super young and he's going to be fine. His extension is going to be 500 00:32:15,359 --> 00:32:21,559 interesting though, because I bet that his agent is looking at you Jordan Pool's 501 00:32:21,559 --> 00:32:23,720 extension one hundred and twenty three million guaranteed, and looking at the season that 502 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:28,000 Maxie just had, they're probably gonna say, oh, he needs to be 503 00:32:28,079 --> 00:32:30,599 max They're clothe, give Maxie, give Tyrese the Maxie, we'll call it. 504 00:32:31,279 --> 00:32:35,759 So I'm fascinated to see that. But I do think the Celtics, 505 00:32:35,799 --> 00:32:37,799 because you look at how small Maxie can be, and he's already a kind 506 00:32:37,799 --> 00:32:42,680 of a disadvantage going to the basket, their length there can really especially of 507 00:32:42,759 --> 00:32:45,839 their wings and guards, can really disrupt him in ways that I don't think 508 00:32:45,839 --> 00:32:52,640 would be as pronounced of an issue against other teams. Next question comes from 509 00:32:52,359 --> 00:32:55,519 Jake from State Farm, So what the Sun's lack of death? Is there 510 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,200 a depth? Excuse me? Is there a trade for CP three or eight 511 00:32:59,319 --> 00:33:02,240 and that they could do that could let them something? And I'm sure there's 512 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:06,240 a trade that could let them something and we'll go into more detail. I'd 513 00:33:06,319 --> 00:33:08,640 rather have grant On for the bulk of this discussion. I do think what 514 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,680 I will say after this playoff flame out. There are two things that I'm 515 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,960 gonna say. I'm not ready to declare the Kemn Durant trade a failure. 516 00:33:15,359 --> 00:33:20,759 It's worth having a discussion because of how well Bridges played in with Brooklyn. 517 00:33:21,119 --> 00:33:22,160 I don't know if his role ever would have I don't think his role in 518 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,359 Phoenix ever would have looked the same unless they moved CP three this summer. 519 00:33:25,519 --> 00:33:30,279 So after a trade like that, there needs to be time to let your 520 00:33:30,319 --> 00:33:32,319 supporting casts be fleshed out and just to figure it out, especially when it's 521 00:33:32,319 --> 00:33:35,599 happening mid season. It's not like they had the off season and then the 522 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,599 training camp to kind of futs and fiddle and plan around this. This happened 523 00:33:37,599 --> 00:33:40,880 mid stream. There was their choice, but it always was probably gonna be 524 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:45,200 the case that yes, they're on this urgent timeline and it needed to be 525 00:33:45,279 --> 00:33:47,720 about this season, but it's more so about shoring things up for the bigger 526 00:33:47,799 --> 00:33:51,720 picture. And to that end, yeah, you're gonna look at moving you 527 00:33:51,839 --> 00:33:54,079 have to look at moving eighton. But as I asked to Grant, is 528 00:33:54,119 --> 00:33:58,759 he more valuable Jordan Pool four years in one hundred and twenty three million guaranteed 529 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,319 or DeAndre and three years and one hundred and two just because the numbers cheaper? 530 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:07,720 Is it DeAndre eight? And I think Jordan Poole plays or represents a 531 00:34:07,839 --> 00:34:12,679 concept that is more desirable as someone who can operate from as an advantage creator. 532 00:34:13,519 --> 00:34:15,159 But let's just look, you have Deandred and they're definitely gonna look to 533 00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:20,960 move him. We'll see what the market is. CB three has fifteen million 534 00:34:21,079 --> 00:34:23,760 guaranteed fifteen point eight million guaranteed this summer. They could simply waive him and 535 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:28,239 stretch that out over three years, which I think would it so that's you 536 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,199 know, five and change a year for a little bit. You could also 537 00:34:31,519 --> 00:34:35,400 try and send him to a team that has cap space and then they can 538 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,320 stretch and waive him. I don't know what the compensation is to eat fifteen 539 00:34:39,639 --> 00:34:46,840 like to eat that much, to eat that much money and so or you 540 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:51,360 could hope that all right, can we use him as like salary ballast and 541 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:57,320 another trade. You just don't have the requisite assets to do to do that, 542 00:34:57,559 --> 00:35:00,639 like use CB three's full salaries like that's going to be an anchor unless 543 00:35:00,639 --> 00:35:06,679 you're taking back a truly like bad deal like I would. So the CB 544 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,079 three thing is tough. If I had to guess, I think he's probably 545 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:15,719 more likely to be waived then traded, just because that number is so big. 546 00:35:15,039 --> 00:35:20,039 Maybe I'm maybe I'm wrong there. Eighton is more fascinating. I have 547 00:35:20,159 --> 00:35:22,719 thought if things kind of not imployed in Boston but they don't make the conference 548 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:27,519 finals, would they want to give a chance to eighton and would they build 549 00:35:27,559 --> 00:35:31,199 something around Derek White or Malcolm Brogden, And then you could give Al Horford 550 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,840 Robert Williams the third that ultimately feels like it's giving up way too much on 551 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,920 Boston's end because of the season eight and just had the Dallas Maverick stuff probably 552 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,039 won't go away. If kyr I Ring's looking to leave, I think that'd 553 00:35:40,079 --> 00:35:44,639 be a terrible idea for Phoenix, but they can be if you get rid 554 00:35:44,679 --> 00:35:51,199 of Chris Paul, you can operate within the hardcap and then there's like a 555 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,840 scarcity of other teams that need bigs. I don't think Indiana would trade Miles 556 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:58,280 turn for deandret and straight up right now, and that would underscore a huge 557 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,320 part of the issue. Okay, he's gonna have a boatload of cap space. 558 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:05,119 I don't think you're looking to unload eight into cap space unless again, 559 00:36:05,159 --> 00:36:07,400 you have some sort of signing trade scenario cocked up, or maybe that's where 560 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:13,800 CP three becomes valuable in But you know, would they take a flyer on 561 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,119 him? I think they would. But would they give you Lou Dort for 562 00:36:15,199 --> 00:36:19,760 DeAndre Ayton? I don't even think you would have to give up other stuff 563 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:24,039 in that deal as well. Would Portland talk about Jeremy Grant sign and trade 564 00:36:24,079 --> 00:36:31,000 talks? Maybe, but they would I think have to be skewing towards a 565 00:36:31,079 --> 00:36:35,920 rebuild, and I don't think they do that with Damian Lillard there. And 566 00:36:36,079 --> 00:36:39,920 then even if you're gonna accept eighton, you have to find another taker for 567 00:36:40,039 --> 00:36:44,239 Nurks. You just can't pay like fifty million dollars a year to aid in 568 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,719 the Nurkis to be on your team. That would be kind of like that 569 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:51,440 would just be disgusting. The Spurs look at him, they'll have cap space, 570 00:36:51,519 --> 00:36:53,599 but are they gonna build. You're not getting to sell or sewing or 571 00:36:53,679 --> 00:36:58,639 this year's pick? Could you get Kelvin Johnson? I mean maybe that could 572 00:36:58,639 --> 00:37:00,760 be something to look at. The olds are the types of trades are probably 573 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:05,239 looking at now at this point, And Okay, I can try and come 574 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,840 up with I'll try and come with more specific ones for Grant. The CP 575 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:12,679 three question question is a little bit more complicated to me, just because you 576 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,920 don't have the other assets to sweeten his deal, and so it's just kind 577 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:20,639 of easier. Oh, we'll eat the five point whatever a million dollars five 578 00:37:20,679 --> 00:37:25,000 point two five point three million dollars per year just to get his salary off. 579 00:37:25,039 --> 00:37:29,280 And that's going to give you more flexibility and ensures that you can use 580 00:37:29,519 --> 00:37:32,920 your entire mid level exception. But that's going to have to be the machinations 581 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:37,400 to which they improve the same. I think one and two is assuming they 582 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:43,079 don't find a way to add just like a you know, monster amount of 583 00:37:43,079 --> 00:37:46,400 salary. I think next season, if they keep CP three, they should 584 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,840 still have. Yeah, they'll still have access to their entire mini mid level 585 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,760 exception. That's going to be the primary tool for them to improve their team 586 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:59,039 with. And then a DeAndre in trade. And at this point, I 587 00:37:59,079 --> 00:38:01,239 don't think you've reached the stage where can we just offload him in a cap 588 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,880 space. I'm sure you could. You can't go that route because he's still 589 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,480 too important to your team, even if you think you can approximate his value 590 00:38:07,559 --> 00:38:12,239 in new deals. For Bismock, Biombo and Jack Landale, we kind of 591 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,920 saw it in Game six against the Nuggets, where Yokich wasn't slowing down at 592 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,840 all. I think eighton provided him more resistance, and that we sometimes take 593 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,400 just his size and default strength, not like he plays with extra, but 594 00:38:23,599 --> 00:38:28,800 just that default strength. It's probably taking for granted a little bit. I'd 595 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,320 be curious to see what his trade value is. But the best way I 596 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:35,760 could frame it if I were Indie right now, I'm not doing Myles Turner 597 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,480 for DeAndre Eighten straight up. And if you're in, you don't really have 598 00:38:37,559 --> 00:38:40,519 bad contracts to send out. You could look at like Buddy Heal's going to 599 00:38:40,559 --> 00:38:45,679 be expiring, So Miles Turner and Buddy Heeled for eighton plus salary accept that 600 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:50,440 doesn't really do it for you, and maybe you know there's something out you 601 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,599 can do on a smaller scale. Landry Sham it makes ten point three million, 602 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:57,039 Cameron Payne is at six point five million guarantee if you want to take 603 00:38:57,079 --> 00:39:00,840 on a longer term contract or you need to stack together salary reason to sign 604 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,880 and trade. I still think we're looking at many Emily, and then what 605 00:39:05,039 --> 00:39:07,360 can we just get freting because the only thing you can really attach to him 606 00:39:07,599 --> 00:39:10,719 is swaps. At this point. I think they're gonna look at it. 607 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:15,280 I would brace anyone who's not who's not yet, you need to absolutely one 608 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:21,760 praise yourself or the DeAndre and trade rumors and speculation because it's coming if it's 609 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:29,880 not in fact here already. Next question comes from Muckle. Not really a 610 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,960 serious question, but how fun have these playoffs been? Even with my team, 611 00:39:34,079 --> 00:39:37,360 the Calves getting embarrassed around one, I've generally enjoyed these playoffs. Unpredictable 612 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,880 outcomes, a lead play performances very few four or five games series. This 613 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,840 has been a really fun rid so far. Yeah, I would agree. 614 00:39:44,039 --> 00:39:49,159 I've enjoyed the variability element of it, or the unpredictability, the ambiuity, 615 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:55,079 not having that sense of inevitability that we've had in years past, I think 616 00:39:55,280 --> 00:40:00,199 and we actually have. So I'll skip ahead to this question from Darkwing Duck 617 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:05,800 and loop these together. They said I was listening to the local chuckle Nuts 618 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,400 on the radio on the way to work, saying it's been one of the 619 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,639 better playoffs they've seen from a playing and drama standpoint. For whatever reason, 620 00:40:10,679 --> 00:40:13,960 I haven't felt compelled to watch any of it, which is why I ax 621 00:40:14,119 --> 00:40:17,440 the offensive trend's question in the previous bag is that the sense from and here 622 00:40:17,639 --> 00:40:22,119 that the playoffs have been super compelling to watch. I would say, yes, 623 00:40:22,199 --> 00:40:25,559 they've been compelling. There's been some stinkers of games, and I think 624 00:40:25,639 --> 00:40:30,599 some people will view the absence is just like a true juggernaut, even though 625 00:40:30,599 --> 00:40:35,039 I think the Nuggets are making their case to be one of those. As 626 00:40:35,079 --> 00:40:37,280 an indictment on the state of the league. This is by design. This 627 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:42,119 is or it's increasingly becoming by design. At wode came out and said that 628 00:40:42,159 --> 00:40:45,639 the NBA is looking increasingly to make sure that third star doesn't line up in 629 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,199 this new CBA on this like, there won't be a team of the third 630 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,440 star. They want that team with the third star to have to let him 631 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,119 walk or send him elsewhere. And this is just an extension of that thinking 632 00:40:54,199 --> 00:40:57,559 because we don't know who's gonna win the title of the first time and how 633 00:40:57,639 --> 00:41:00,320 long. And even if you are just disappointed about what happened to the Bucks, 634 00:41:00,599 --> 00:41:02,199 yeah, I think they were probably the safest title pick, even though 635 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:07,199 Denver made a case for it as well. Them losing, especially on the 636 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:12,880 circumstances of injuries, Like it's totally believable and I think they seem to beatable 637 00:41:13,039 --> 00:41:16,800 even beforehand. I don't know. I would wonder why someone who is a 638 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:21,400 fan of the NBA wouldn't find these playoffs compelling. If you're a fan of 639 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,880 a team and your team dark Wing Dug, I believe you're a Jazz fan. 640 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:29,679 Unless I'm wrong, You're the Jazz are out of it, so you're 641 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,119 just you know, maybe you've tuned into draft mode or you're an off season 642 00:41:31,159 --> 00:41:34,440 mode. I would totally understand that if you like NBA at large, I 643 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,000 don't know why you wouldn't enjoy these playoffs where there's been a lot of just 644 00:41:37,159 --> 00:41:40,599 stratagems that have been employed that are interesting when you look at all the wrinkles 645 00:41:40,639 --> 00:41:45,719 that teams are throwing in and then upsets galore. I guess you could be 646 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:50,320 turned off by what feels like a huge breadth of injuries where you know, 647 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:54,119 the Clippers finished their series with the Suns with no Kauai or Paul George, 648 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:58,440 and then the Suns finished their series against the Nuggets with eight and NCP three 649 00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:04,360 sitting out there. It feels like there's been more of that Julius Random missing 650 00:42:04,519 --> 00:42:08,639 game, Jimmy Butler missing a game, Johnathan the Goombo missing two games there, 651 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,280 and then the injuries Tyler hero It, throw adiepo there out. It 652 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,239 does feel just anecdotally that there have been more injuries, but we're witnessing just 653 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:22,440 so much like Joell Embiid and James Harden. Look, they are on the 654 00:42:22,559 --> 00:42:24,320 verge of making it to the conference finals. And the implications here of what 655 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:28,239 happens to the Celtics they don't make the conference finals. What happens to the 656 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:30,719 Sixers if they don't, because James Harden can be a free agent. There's 657 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:35,159 the Houston bugaboo out there, and then there's the Nuggets, where there's Nicole 658 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,800 Yokich. To me, I believe did not win his third MVP Award because 659 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,960 of I don't know if you want to call it fatigue. That's an insult 660 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,760 to what Joell Embie did, But I think a lot of it was. 661 00:42:44,039 --> 00:42:46,239 Had he is a team won two playoff rounds last year, I don't think 662 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:50,239 anyone would have had a problem voting him MVP a third time. But he 663 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,360 didn't have like any real supporting cast. Now you've given him a different supporting 664 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:57,480 cast, a healthier supporting cast. Look who the Nuggets are doing are they 665 00:42:57,519 --> 00:43:00,159 have the title favorites. The Warriors are on the brink of elimination. It's 666 00:43:00,159 --> 00:43:01,119 a Lakers team that was written off for earlier in the year. It's man 667 00:43:01,159 --> 00:43:05,960 made it to the second round. I guess some people might be discouraged by 668 00:43:06,079 --> 00:43:07,800 oh to see those Look at the West, a seven seed beating a two 669 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:12,079 seed in Memphis, which by the way, was missing important players themselves, 670 00:43:12,159 --> 00:43:15,920 most notably in Steven Adams for the Grizzlies, and then the Warriors upsetting the 671 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:21,800 three seed. But like the upset is relative when you look at all these 672 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,039 upsets that have actually happened, you know, the most surprising one of the 673 00:43:24,079 --> 00:43:30,599 first round was probably the Nicks just trucking the Cavaliers in five games, to 674 00:43:30,639 --> 00:43:34,119 be honest with you, So I found the playoffs super compelling because they are 675 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,199 so unpredictable. I've gotten so many things wrong, and I do feel like 676 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,360 a lot of things are changing from game to game, where even the Warriors 677 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:45,239 are like they're they've been quicker to react or make changes than they normally would 678 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:49,280 have, and you're dealing with that as well, just this sense of finality 679 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,760 with the Warriors, what's going to happen? Draymond's a free agent. Jordan 680 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,599 Pool has not been great all of a sudden. If they fall short, 681 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:59,840 are they gonna look at making wholesale changes? And just what are the Lakers 682 00:44:00,119 --> 00:44:02,119 going to do? Yeah, they've been much improved. Anthony Davis is playing 683 00:44:02,159 --> 00:44:06,760 spectacularly unhealthy. He does seem like he's gonna playing Game six, by the 684 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:10,400 way, So I'm happy he avoided concussion protocols, or more more importantly, 685 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:15,039 that he avoided having a concussion. I just I'd be curious to know. 686 00:44:16,039 --> 00:44:22,079 To throw it back at anyone who is not excuse me for anyone who has 687 00:44:22,159 --> 00:44:25,239 not enjoyed the playoffs, I just I would like to know the reason why, 688 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:29,239 and I would totally listen to it. I would just be curious, 689 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,519 aside from injuries or your team being out of it, why you wouldn't have 690 00:44:31,639 --> 00:44:37,079 enjoyed these these playoffs. Valid question, though I don't I don't have any 691 00:44:37,159 --> 00:44:44,639 issues with it with it being asked. Next question comes from Rome eighty one 692 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:49,639 eighty ask what should the Celtics do with their front line going forward? Horford 693 00:44:49,639 --> 00:44:52,440 has been so integral to both their defense and offense, but he's thirty six. 694 00:44:52,559 --> 00:44:53,960 Robert Lewis is a great player, but he's average around forty two games 695 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,719 per seasons. It's getting into the league five years ago. So given that 696 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,880 Horford may start to see a decline and effectiveness, will may only be available 697 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,239 half the season in any given year, and the new CBA plus ballooming contracts 698 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,920 for their stars limiting Boston's flexibility, what's the best thing they can do to 699 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:14,639 maintain a contention level front court. So this is like, this is a 700 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,920 question that I mean, it should matter. This is a question that fucking 701 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:22,199 matters. Is the best way that I can frame this because everything that row 702 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:27,360 eighty one eighty here lays out is spot on. And I think what does 703 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,880 help is that Al Horford's of a sudden on the books for ten million dollars 704 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,039 a year next season. I would push back against Robert Williams, the third 705 00:45:32,079 --> 00:45:36,119 being this great player, and it's not just for me, It's not just 706 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,920 about the availability. It's he looks I don't know if he's still injured, 707 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:43,559 like he's looked slower on defense this year, maybe a little bit more or 708 00:45:43,599 --> 00:45:46,559 not as impactful on offense, or more just pobulated. In general, They're 709 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:51,440 both cheap enough to where it's okay, we could, we could move forward. 710 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:52,760 And by the way, also complicating this, I know he hasn't been 711 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:58,639 used in super volume murbing the playoffs, Grant Williams is gonna entered restricted free 712 00:45:58,679 --> 00:46:01,159 agency, and so that compromises or front court even further. And as Romany 713 00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:06,519 one eighty alluded to, Jaylen Brown is eligible for a five year, two 714 00:46:06,599 --> 00:46:08,480 hundred and ninety five million dollar extension this year. Jason Tatum's a five years, 715 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:13,920 three hundred and eighteen I believe or whatever it is. That's like in 716 00:46:14,039 --> 00:46:15,880 total when all the years together, that's a lot of money. And we 717 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:20,880 know how restrictive that the new CBA is going to be. When you're looking 718 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:22,760 at teams that hit that, I'm just gonna call it fucking hardcap. To 719 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:29,920 forget the second apron. It's it's the it's the hardcap. I don't it's 720 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:31,960 not an imminent concern, by the way, because you're looking at those extensions 721 00:46:32,039 --> 00:46:36,440 kicking in a little ways down the line for each of them. But I 722 00:46:36,519 --> 00:46:39,000 do think you kind of we first need to see how this postseason ends, 723 00:46:39,199 --> 00:46:42,719 but you need to look at Okay, is there anything we can do to 724 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,400 diversify this front court and we know that they want. Ideally you would have 725 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:51,199 someone who can give the rim pressure that Robert Williams the third gives you and 726 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,559 then but also gives you the switchability or perimeter who al however, who can 727 00:46:53,599 --> 00:46:59,000 still hang and then maybe also just kind of the help protection of Rob Williams 728 00:46:59,039 --> 00:47:01,239 a third while also the floor spacing about Horford, You're not there's like, 729 00:47:02,039 --> 00:47:07,119 there's no guy in the league that provides that. Who would even be the 730 00:47:07,199 --> 00:47:09,840 closest week I guess it's Miles Turner. You're just not gonna Miles turn is 731 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:14,400 probably the closest you come to that you're not gonna be able to. I 732 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,159 mean you could, I mean maybe you could get him, actually just because 733 00:47:16,159 --> 00:47:19,360 if the Pacers you want to trade him, you couldn't. You can technically 734 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,679 trade some future first round picks there. I think you look at it and 735 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:24,800 it's not a matter of me to me of well, we need to cut 736 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,000 costs here, like Robert Leaves the third, al Horford aren't going to be 737 00:47:28,039 --> 00:47:30,639 mega expensive. It's we need to make the most of Jalen Brown and Jason 738 00:47:30,679 --> 00:47:37,039 Tatum before we get hamstrung by all these salary cap limitations. And is that 739 00:47:37,159 --> 00:47:40,079 going to lead them to look for more draftsic changes over the offseas. I 740 00:47:40,079 --> 00:47:43,280 can't even thin beside form Miles Turner. I can't even think of names. 741 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,239 And he's not the perfect Celtics big by the way, because they're gonna want 742 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:49,760 someone who provides a little bit more rim pressure is probably just he showed that 743 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,800 he was more dynamic on offense this year, but Robert Leaves the third and 744 00:47:52,079 --> 00:47:57,199 Al Horford are both better playmakers than him. I'm just saying his name is 745 00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,920 kind of a point of that would be a guy that you could theoretically target. 746 00:48:01,119 --> 00:48:04,920 I don't know what else or who else you look at. There's there 747 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,400 are cheaper options that you can look to approximate on the center market where it's 748 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,440 oh, do we just we just want a third body in there, so 749 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:15,480 we're gonna go after Bismack Biyombo and do we get him for the uh, 750 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:17,000 you know, the minimum at this point, like is he's still going to 751 00:48:17,039 --> 00:48:23,400 be on a minimum contractors this someone who technically requires a use to the minimid 752 00:48:23,519 --> 00:48:27,800 level, which case things get complicated, you're not gonna get Brook Lopez just 753 00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,440 one of the money unless he thinks that he can go rim chase, rim 754 00:48:30,559 --> 00:48:34,679 chasing, ring chasing, and then the center mark, I mean the whole 755 00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,400 for agency markets like sort of kind of bleak, like do you really want 756 00:48:39,079 --> 00:48:42,559 nasried? Would be interesting, but you're not gonna have the money to get 757 00:48:42,639 --> 00:48:45,679 him vooch. No, you're not gonna money to get him. Christian would 758 00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,840 know. So you would be looking at more if you're gonna upgrade the front 759 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:51,679 court. I don't know if you're gonna be looking more at trades. That's 760 00:48:51,679 --> 00:48:53,400 why I mentioned them as a DeAndre in destination. He just doesn't space the 761 00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:59,239 floor enough. But that would be like an interesting challenge trade would be, 762 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:05,079 is it? I guess it would be Horford and Derek White or Malcolm Brogden 763 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,960 would be the framework of the package. But then you just have like eighton 764 00:49:08,519 --> 00:49:15,000 who might be more equipped to be kind of at times the actual defensive anchor, 765 00:49:15,039 --> 00:49:20,239 where Robert Williams the third is gonna do more disrupt stuff as the secondary 766 00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:24,800 guy, but his offensive lows and disappearing acts are just so stark. I 767 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:28,199 don't know that you could just like having both those guys in the roster without 768 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,760 then having also a floor stretching big there with you. I don't know what 769 00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:36,840 big men are going to be on the trade market. This year's Joel and 770 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,000 big get there depending on how the six yer season ends. I don't know. 771 00:49:39,519 --> 00:49:43,679 The Boston does have cards that it could play, though, and I 772 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,840 don't think I just don't know. You know, if Kristaps Porzingis all of 773 00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:51,400 a sudden became gettable in a sign and trade scenario, or I guess if 774 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:52,679 he just opted in and staying on that deal, do you do you look 775 00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:58,960 at that, but then you're really tying yourself to oh, another sort of 776 00:49:59,039 --> 00:50:01,760 injury prone guy. Well, yeah, Robert Will's the third injury prone himself. 777 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,719 I know Prezincis was available this year, but that was the first time 778 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,199 in roughly forever. Wendell Carter Junior would be great for this team, but 779 00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,559 what does it take to get him out of Orlando? It probably depends on 780 00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:13,719 who they're drafting and the lottery. And even then, if they're gonna get 781 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,679 Webin Yama, they're gonna be fine playing ban carro Wendell Carter Junior, Webin 782 00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:20,840 Yama and friends Vonnor together. They're not even gonna think twice about that. 783 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,320 I don't think they need a Mitchell Robinson if the Nicks decided to make him 784 00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:27,239 available. Could they maybe get in Isaiah Hartenstein. I think that might be 785 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,079 the scale move they're more likely to look at. Could I see them being 786 00:50:30,119 --> 00:50:34,440 interested in you on its valn Chuness. I just don't know unless you're sending 787 00:50:34,519 --> 00:50:37,079 Derek White out as part of that, which why would you do for Val 788 00:50:37,119 --> 00:50:39,679 and Chunis. I don't know why New Orleans would necessarily be interested, But 789 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:44,360 I do think that we could see, especially if they their season ends before 790 00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,679 the conference finals or if they just flame out in the conference finals. Row 791 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:52,320 eighty one eighties absolutely right here that this is like that we could see some 792 00:50:52,519 --> 00:50:58,639 pretty big ass changes from the Celtics where everyone's looking towards the jail and Brown 793 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,159 cross Roads and look as if he says no to the Supermac's extension and they're 794 00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:05,519 offering it, yeah, he's gonna start being shocked. But I think the 795 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:07,280 I said this, I was asked about it while I was also asked if 796 00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,960 the Celtics were gonna get rid of Joe Missoula after the season should they lose 797 00:51:12,039 --> 00:51:15,960 the series to the Sixers. I was that was another We talked about this 798 00:51:15,039 --> 00:51:19,360 on the show Grant and if anyone listened to how you can get caught off 799 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:23,760 guard by by questions on the radio, and that was just one of them 800 00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:29,840 where I was like, oh, I know that, I know that some 801 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:31,639 of these questions I'm not going to be ready for, but that coaches get 802 00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:37,320 fired all the time. But I was taken aback by. I was taken 803 00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:42,360 aback by that was just a question. So I was stumbling through that. 804 00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:46,199 But I was also talking about the front court specifically where it's if they and 805 00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:50,440 by the way, they did extend Missoula in what was it, February, 806 00:51:50,559 --> 00:51:52,639 so to get rid of him there would have been now would be weird. 807 00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:54,960 I know that some teams don't care about the timing left on the deal, 808 00:51:55,039 --> 00:51:59,119 but to extend him the terms weren't just closed and I don't know them yet, 809 00:51:59,159 --> 00:52:02,840 and then get rid of him would be bizarre slash wild slash. Not 810 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,000 the greatest look. You have to change you make the finals in twenty twenty 811 00:52:07,039 --> 00:52:10,679 two, but then you still change coaches in consecutive following off seasons would be 812 00:52:12,199 --> 00:52:16,559 fairly hysterical, actually, But I did mention that the front line is kind 813 00:52:16,599 --> 00:52:19,519 of the Okay, we know what we have in the perimeter, if we 814 00:52:19,559 --> 00:52:22,519 want to keep Jaalen Brown just and Jade them together. And I saw JJ 815 00:52:22,639 --> 00:52:27,559 Reddick brought this up talking to Nikaias Duncan and Steve Jones about is there a 816 00:52:27,679 --> 00:52:31,000 cap on how you can operate with those two because there's a Kauai slash Paul 817 00:52:31,039 --> 00:52:34,920 George Ellman to them, and yet Jalen Brown just isn't as good as a 818 00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,480 passer as either of those two. Jason Tatum is probably up to stuff. 819 00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,119 It could be, but then you're kind of looking at well, then they 820 00:52:40,119 --> 00:52:45,039 also need point of attack help here as well, because Marcus Smart is probably 821 00:52:45,079 --> 00:52:47,000 there. I don't know if he's their best he's probably their best passer. 822 00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:52,400 Is that enough? Like is he the pick and roll orchestrator or half court 823 00:52:52,519 --> 00:52:54,719 orchestrator that you want to trust the stewarts your offense? And if you think 824 00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:58,639 that you need someone to do that, is that an indictment on the Tatum 825 00:52:59,039 --> 00:53:02,639 Brown jan I think that ultimately you're set that you probably have bodies to spare 826 00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:06,639 there. And I think Marcus Smart said something I can't remember the exact quote, 827 00:53:06,639 --> 00:53:10,719 where it kind of felt that he was acknowledging the mortality of this This 828 00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:15,239 roster if they didn't get it done this year. But because you have White 829 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:21,760 and Broggden and Smart, there's Marchin, there's Marchin be like, hey, 830 00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,880 we'll trade one of those guys for somebody. I just don't know who that 831 00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,320 somebody is. Again, I threw some names out there, all of many 832 00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,880 of which would interest me. I still like Miles Turner for the Celtics. 833 00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:34,400 I don't really know how much that hurts or to frame it doesn't help. 834 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:39,679 They're they're rebounding, but still they're like they're like I'd also thought the Calves 835 00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:45,239 when they need a perimeter players, they're like something to the thing of Jared 836 00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:51,599 Allen for Al Horford and or was it would you do Jared Allen for Robert 837 00:53:51,639 --> 00:53:54,360 Williams the third and like who's given up more in that deal? But you 838 00:53:54,400 --> 00:54:00,400 could you get if you're the Calves of Brogden or Derek White out of Austin. 839 00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:04,960 Not perfect examples here. The other thing you could look at is just 840 00:54:06,159 --> 00:54:07,880 like, could you get Nick Claxton from Brooklyn? When does that cost you? 841 00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,519 If they're if they're going to rebuild again, he doesn't provide the floor 842 00:54:10,559 --> 00:54:14,440 spacing, only does have a flour game now, which is super interesting. 843 00:54:14,559 --> 00:54:16,840 Is this just a team that can try and pivot to small whereas Maxie cleeband 844 00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:21,800 become available in Dallas and say they try and go the lower end route there, 845 00:54:22,159 --> 00:54:23,639 maybe trying to take a look at John Collins, But again, who 846 00:54:23,679 --> 00:54:28,280 are you giving up in that instance? You have to get someone who represents 847 00:54:28,639 --> 00:54:30,559 in upgrade over both of your bigs. I think if you're going the trade 848 00:54:30,639 --> 00:54:37,360 route almost or just be super small time because all the primary salary I don't 849 00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:38,800 even want to say philer, are all the primary salary matching tools that you 850 00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:44,280 have. They're so actually important to your rotation because there they're all your top 851 00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,039 seven guys that you can't just junk one of them. Yeah, you have 852 00:54:46,079 --> 00:54:51,000 the flexibility to move Al Horford or Robert Williams the third or one of Marcus 853 00:54:51,039 --> 00:54:53,239 Smart, Malcolm bron and Derek White, but don't necessarily mean you do it 854 00:54:53,559 --> 00:54:58,480 just to do it. I don't. But I don't have any other names 855 00:54:58,519 --> 00:55:01,280 that are springing to mind. Side of that. I'm even I'm even trying 856 00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:05,440 to go through it right now, and it's you're not gonna get Jared Vanderbilt 857 00:55:05,519 --> 00:55:13,039 from the from the Los Angeles Lakers, Like I guess technically Memphis would still 858 00:55:13,079 --> 00:55:15,519 have bigs to spare, but Brandon Kark's probably gonna miss all of next year. 859 00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:20,159 Steven Adams will be back. Do you try and get Xavier Tillman from 860 00:55:20,199 --> 00:55:22,440 them? Are they worried about having to give him an extension? That's again 861 00:55:22,519 --> 00:55:27,039 though, that's like lower level moves. The maybe the ideal get for them. 862 00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,039 If I had to pick the ideal get actually a deal, get would 863 00:55:30,039 --> 00:55:32,079 be is there some type of sign and trade to work out with Milwaukee fro 864 00:55:32,119 --> 00:55:35,000 Brook Lopez? And the answer is just no, You're not gonna do that. 865 00:55:35,119 --> 00:55:37,519 The Boston can't be hardcapped anyway. But that's the guy, and I 866 00:55:37,599 --> 00:55:42,159 had Miles Turner right behind him. I think some people might wonder what could 867 00:55:42,159 --> 00:55:46,199 it be? Karl Anthony Towns, just as I like varied that up. 868 00:55:46,679 --> 00:55:52,079 What are you offering for him? Is it Derek White, Horford and Picks? 869 00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:54,559 I just I don't even know if that's if that's getting it done. 870 00:55:54,599 --> 00:55:58,440 So those are all the names I have for you, Rome, But I 871 00:55:58,519 --> 00:56:01,559 do think I do think that Boston is I wouldn't necessarily count on it, 872 00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:06,639 but let's say they lose in Game seven, or if they just lose unconvincingly 873 00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:10,719 in the Eastern Conference Finals. I would say that the Celtics will look more 874 00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:19,199 extensively at making some serious changes than I believe that people would have initially thought. 875 00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:22,760 We have two more questions. I'm already going longer than I wanted to, 876 00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:24,800 but let's see if we can get to them. This one comes from 877 00:56:25,519 --> 00:56:30,639 Carrigan. But what do you what do you think of a potential Jordan Pool 878 00:56:30,679 --> 00:56:31,760 to the Jazz trade. I think he could be given the keys to the 879 00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:35,960 offense. They're barring something crazy happening in the draft lottery and the Jazz of 880 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,679 the cap space to absorb his contract to help gsw's money situation. So who 881 00:56:40,639 --> 00:56:45,639 I guess this? I would assume or presumes that the Warriors would want to 882 00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:50,880 get out of Green's money so bad they're willing just to dump it into Utah's 883 00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:52,880 cap space. I don't think they're there yet with him, even as scared 884 00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:58,840 as they are of their packs bill where right now? If you bring Ramon 885 00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:02,719 back his prior number, you're looking at basically half a billion dollars in luxury 886 00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:07,880 taxes and just raw player salary. Jordan Pool in Utah, especially because they're 887 00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:14,039 spacing that's super interesting. But you already have Colin Sexton. I guess if 888 00:57:14,079 --> 00:57:17,039 you don't think you're going to bring back Jordan Clarkson because he's a free agent, 889 00:57:17,239 --> 00:57:21,800 there's more rhyme and reason of that, and Pool crully fits their timeline 890 00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:23,840 better and they're not too guard heavy after that. I don't know what the 891 00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:27,880 fuck town Horton Tucker is. He's probably like a wing with thing like a 892 00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:31,159 guard him a wing or something. So and YO, are they going to 893 00:57:31,199 --> 00:57:35,440 bring Chris Done back? There's there's room for him. I would say having 894 00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,960 Colin Sexton it feels sort of redundant there. But you can bring Collin Sexton 895 00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:42,599 off the bench because that's what you just did. I just I think the 896 00:57:42,679 --> 00:57:45,079 Warriors are gonna want value. He's one hundred and twenty two million dollars guaranteed 897 00:57:45,119 --> 00:57:49,440 over the next four years. Right now. There's there's a case me that 898 00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,320 that might be the worst contract in the NBA. I don't know if I'm 899 00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:53,119 speaking out of turn there. That's gonna have to be something I say, 900 00:57:53,119 --> 00:57:58,519 if to post to grant. So if you're willing to accept it out right, 901 00:57:58,519 --> 00:58:00,440 I mean, do you really punt on him like that. You just 902 00:58:00,599 --> 00:58:02,920 punted on James Wiseman. Things are not going well with John Ncomingo because he's 903 00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:07,840 not playing Moses movies a mild success story. And then if if you are 904 00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:09,159 a golden state, where are you getting? Would Jazz give up just a 905 00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:13,039 first round pick, a throwaway first round pick, not one of their own, 906 00:58:13,079 --> 00:58:15,679 Maybe it's a heavily protected one of Cleveland first round pick, one of 907 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:19,039 this year's late first round picks, just to get him. And do the 908 00:58:19,079 --> 00:58:22,159 Warriors do that? I think it would be a tough sell because they still 909 00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:25,079 view Pool when he's on it's super important to what they're doing. And let's 910 00:58:25,079 --> 00:58:28,360 say they want assets, and let's say Utah and through or be willing to 911 00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,880 give them one what like are they are? They gonna want contexts and over 912 00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:36,280 Jordan Pool? That's just you'd probably rather take the upside swing of Jordan Pool 913 00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:37,960 at this point. Still, although maybe you trust the bank ability of a 914 00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,639 context in and then beyond that, you touch has sent them a lot to 915 00:58:40,679 --> 00:58:44,400 offer. They're not going to give you akbaji. They're definitely not going to 916 00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,119 give you lowry market in and they're not gonna give you Walker Kessler, so 917 00:58:47,199 --> 00:58:52,000 I would be intrigued. If the Warriors are actually looking to dump Pool, 918 00:58:52,119 --> 00:58:54,039 I would argue to Spurs should get involved on that, even though he could 919 00:58:54,119 --> 00:58:59,280 give Greg Popovitch a heart attack. I just I don't see the pathway to 920 00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,199 a trade with Utah because I do think the Warriors are going to demand value, 921 00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:08,639 and I don't think Utah should or would give up anything of real value 922 00:59:08,639 --> 00:59:10,400 for him. And even if they were willing to do that, I just 923 00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:15,639 I don't know what the package looks like here. They're limited in Alfremn as 924 00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:19,679 material assets. They have the first round picks, but that doesn't mean as 925 00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,400 much to a team like the Warriors. Yeah, they're concerned about their tax 926 00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,079 bill, but they also need help now if they're willing to dump Pool, 927 00:59:25,119 --> 00:59:29,840 though, I'm sure that they could find a team that would. The magic 928 00:59:30,039 --> 00:59:32,519 could come in and they can create enough cap space while keeping their core intact 929 00:59:32,719 --> 00:59:39,639 to do that. Last one comes from Peto Shout Out, Peto Carras Lavert, 930 00:59:40,199 --> 00:59:45,639 Dylan Brooks sign and Trade Swap, who says no, I don't want 931 00:59:45,639 --> 00:59:50,960 to say everyone because that feels unnecessarily mean, but definitely the Calves they need 932 00:59:51,239 --> 00:59:55,760 shooting out of the three spot, not glorified like a more damaging Isaaca Corol, 933 00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:59,320 because he's gonna try and do more stuff with the ball on his hands 934 00:59:59,679 --> 01:00:04,079 on offense. I do think, you know, Caros Lavert in Memphis is 935 01:00:04,159 --> 01:00:07,719 sort of interesting. It's just that other ball handler type who defended better than 936 01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,719 I thought this year, didn't have the best playoffs, but he did shoot 937 01:00:12,159 --> 01:00:15,920 like better off the catch during the regular season. Could the Grizzlies find used 938 01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:19,360 for him? Absolutely? Do they apply him with both Baying and Marette? 939 01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:21,760 You could try it. Don't necessarily know what it looks like, but I 940 01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:23,320 think they would be. I mean, they're looking to get rid of Dillon 941 01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:27,719 Brooks anyway they would And how are the Grizzlies. You could talk yourself into 942 01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:31,440 it if you don't think you can like address a higher end option. I 943 01:00:31,519 --> 01:00:36,199 think that they need more of a wing or a Lisa Combo forward, and 944 01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:38,519 Caros Lavert is if you want to call him a wing, that that's a 945 01:00:38,599 --> 01:00:44,920 little ambitious, but he's not that so I would say I think both teams 946 01:00:45,199 --> 01:00:47,239 probably say now. I think Cleveland's way more likely to say no her they 947 01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:52,599 need capslock. I think at this point you just want to get capslock shooting 948 01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,800 on the wings, even if it comes in the form of a defensive liability, 949 01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:58,880 because we saw how you're going to be defended in the playoffs, and 950 01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:02,679 so someone like Dylan Brooks definitely isn't gonna cut it. Someone like even Jay 951 01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:07,280 Crowder wouldn't cut it. Tory Craig, No, Max Struc. Yeah, 952 01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:10,639 you just you can't afford him. I would say the bare minimum would be, 953 01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:15,840 can you get a Josh Richardson and stick him at the three? And 954 01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:20,199 he probably provides like the bare minimum of enough shooting, but they need more 955 01:01:20,239 --> 01:01:22,440 of a capslock shooter there. You don't want them to be a defensive liability 956 01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:28,800 Dylan Brooks. Then you guys would be Dylan Brooks, Evan Wibley, and 957 01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:32,599 Jared Allen. That would be sort of a wild defensive Like I just feel 958 01:01:32,599 --> 01:01:35,719 like you can get a lot of the same stuff outside of Isaaco Corrol. 959 01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:37,639 Dylan Brooks is gonna better at defending sort of the bigger, burlier guys. 960 01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,880 He can go up and down their spectrum a little bit more than Isaaco Corol 961 01:01:42,039 --> 01:01:45,519 right now. But yeah, no, I can't see this from Cleveland. 962 01:01:45,159 --> 01:01:51,000 Thank you all who will listen to this as usual. Please remember to subscribe 963 01:01:51,039 --> 01:01:53,599 to us if you haven't already, and ratings reviews on Apple and Spotify that 964 01:01:53,599 --> 01:01:57,199 will help us out a ton. 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