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Erica, I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I know you're not online. You're

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not You're less online than me.
Something happened online yesterday that I'm ninety nine

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point nine percent sure you're unaware of, and I want to let you know

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about it. Okay, I can
tell you I'm one hundred percent before I'm

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unaware because I have no idea.
You're talking perfect. Something went viral,

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and the thing that went viral was
from KVOA News for Tucson breaking news.

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Tucson teacher loses job over OnlyFans account. Boom, right, we's sex positive

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here, that's bullshit. Pay teachers
more. Maybe they will need to set

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up only fans account to pay their
rent. And then you click on it

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and you realize that the Tucson teacher
that was fired for having an only fans

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account is none other than get this, Rachel Dolazol, whoa who is now

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going by the name I apologize for
this pronunciation and catchy diallo, which means

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she is still appropriating. She's still
pretending to be black. Yeah, okay,

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okay, look, I don't blame
OnlyFans. I don't blame Rachel Dole

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even I blame I blame Tucson News
for burying the fucking lame. Your headline

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writer, I've never seen a headline
so missed the fucking point of the story.

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She read. She's back, Rachel
Dolizala is back. She's back.

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Still not black, but she's back. Yeah. I remember the last time

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we all agreed on something, and
it was that this woman was fucking weird.

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Well, let's deconstruct this story for
a second, A hot second.

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A. She's still doing her weird
fucking thing. There are better people than

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me to discuss, absolutely right,
But here's what I want to discuss.

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Who hired her to teach? And
what is she teaching? Because when you

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said teacher gets fired, I was
legitimately picturing like a second grade teacher.

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Yeah, who has to do only
fans on the side, or maybe wants

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to do only fans on the side, I don't know, and like and

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like they're like, but WoT someone
think of the children? And now I'm

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like, but what someone think of
the children? For God's sakes? If

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she is teaching African Americans? Holy
shit, Hey, I'm Paul, and

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this is that aged Well yesterday's pop
culture. Today we are in murder mystery

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March Erica. But I have a
missive for you from so much alliteration.

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I love tones. I have a
missive for you from our listeners. If

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you'll remember, we did Purple Rain. No, Paul, have no memory.

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Its mystery to me. We were
talking about how Purple Rain didn't when

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the best song oscar and Against All
Odds came up, and you said,

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what was that from? And I
said, I don't know. Oh,

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I actually know now someone in my
family told me, and I felt like

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a schmuck for not realizing it.
Yeah, somewhere between six and four thousand

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people emailed us to tell us the
song Against All Odds is from the movie

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Against All Odds? Yeah, yeah, that actually that tracks what song was

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Beauty and the Beast in? What
song is that? That's a good movie?

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Is that in? It's Okay,
Paul, did you look up Against

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All Odds? I did, and
I want to read you and everyone the

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synopsis and IMDb. Can I tell
you I'm choosing not to look it up.

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I was going to ask you,
thinking that I was going to do

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exactly what you're doing right now.
Okay. A gangster hires an ex football

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player to find his girlfriend. When
he finds her, they fall in love

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and the twists start to appear,
all of it, all of it.

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Now, we have to do it, now, we have to do it

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on the podcast. Oh god,
Paul, have you seen this? The

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cast? It's Jeff Bridges. I
know that Jeff Bridges, Rachel Ward,

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James Woods, boo. But Jane
Greer and Richard Windmark we're in this movie.

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Okay, So now we know what
movie Against All Odds is from.

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It is from Against As. We
have Susie sighting, we have Swoozie sighting,

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we have sabk All right, let's
watch the shit out of this.

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Let's do this. Let's do it. I'm in Let's do it, all

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right, Erica. Before we get
to our murder mystery for the day,

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we do have a five star Apple
podcast review? Shall I read to you?

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Sure? This is from ains Lovey? And they write, where has

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this pod been my whole life?
Where have we been your whole life?

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We've only been around since twenty nineteen. We're very young. Before that,

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we were probably just I don't know, getting high and watching movies. Yeah,

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sums it up, Uh, they
write, I just discovered this pod

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two days ago. I binged about
seven episodes in two days. Wow,

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good for you. Oh. I
loved the Mermaid's episode as well as the

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Goodfellas and far Scump episodes. Three
excellent choices. I will say that also,

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like there's no Venn diagram of those
films that's correct, like except that

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we covered them like there's nothing nothing
in common. They're right. I am

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hooked. I am so happy I
found this pod. You two are absolutely

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brilliant, and I love these reviews. All of my favorite movies heart emoji,

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heart emoji, heart emoji, kissy
winky face emoji. I love kissy

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winky face. Kissy winky face is
my favorite. It is a dangerous emoji,

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though, because if you send it
to the wrong person at the wrong

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time, you're like, I didn't
mean that to come off creepy, you

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know. I meant that to be
loving, not like I was. That

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was more of an air kiss,
not a kiss. Yeah, it wasn't

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a tony figure out a way to
show us air kiss in an emoji like

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these like the mean girls love Yeah, what like that they do that?

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But an emoji an emoji, I
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need one. Yeah, Tim Cook, I know you're listening. That should

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be your top priority, some kind
somehow make an air kiss emoji. Yes,

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please cut you all the emails were
about to receive explaining to us how

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to do an arkis emoji. Oh
my god, we get it. We're

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middle aged, Ains Lovey. Thank
you so much for this review. Thank

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you for binging seven episodes in two
days. I really am. I love

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hearing that. I love that hearing
that people enjoy us. Did you hear

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the tension in the Mermaids episode?
I remember us fighting over something there that

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was that was That was a spicy
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the ending of Mermaids played, but
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we should be punished for having sex. That's what That's what I remember that.

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Yeah, that's what you remember?
Sure sure sure, sure, Ains

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Lovey. If you would like ate
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reach out let us know this is
you. We would so love to send

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it to you. Erica. What
is our murder mystery for today? Speaking

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of spicy episodes, because I think
we're going to disagree on this film.

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Yeah. Probably Today's film is the
nineteen ninety seven neo noir crime thriller La

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Yes. La Confidential was requested by
Mary and by Brian. Brian has requested

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before. I want to remind everyone
he is at zoo draws underscore comic on

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Instagram. And if you don't love
cheeky comics featuring animals that are about conserving

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the earth, what are you even
doing here? Go follow Brian on Instagram.

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All right, So, La Confidential
was written by Brian Oh God,

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hell Gland, that's close enough,
Yeah, and Curtis Hansen, based on

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the nineteen ninety novel of the same
name by James Elroy. It was directed

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by Hanson and stars Kevin Spacey,
Russell Crowe, Guy Pearce, Kim Basinger,

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David straight Aairn, James Cromwell,
and Danny DeVito. Quite a cast.

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I know I've forgotten David straight Aaron
was in this and I like squealed

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when I saw him, squealed it
legitimately loved everything he did. Yeah.

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Also, I'm going to put the
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But in terms of men's fashion,
he's the only one that skates away scott

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free in this film, only one, I think, because to wear those

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fifties you have to be tall and
like things well. Also because his character

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was sort of a dandy, so
he didn't have to wear those dumb boxy

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suits that everyone else wore. He
got to wear a sweater so you couldn't

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see that his pants were hitting above
his belly button like that. Yeah,

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he's wearing the nineteen fifties version of
asked leisure, which is the only good

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look for men in the fifties.
La Confidential was nominated for nine to count

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them, nine Academy Awards, winning
for Best Supporting Actress Kim Basinger Basinger,

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Bassinger Basinger. But I'm not honestly
sure. I think it's basing Ger.

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I think you're right. I think
it's a hard girl. It's a girl,

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it's a hard gut, it's a
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It lost in every other category too. It's film doppelganger Titanic, basically the

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same movie, pretty much one to
one, one to one having watched this

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movie, and I know this is
kind of a not a controversial win.

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I don't think anyone's angry about Kim
Basinger having an oscar. But like I

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remember the tell of people being surprised
that it was more of like a oh

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for this kind of feel. Yeah, and like, having watched the movie,

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I she's good. I have no
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I do understand the question because I'm
like this, this is Joan Cusack for

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in an ounce here, and that's
a towering comic performance. Yeah. So

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I have a theory that she got
the Oscar for being married to Alec Baldwin.

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I think you know how Hollywood is
like an inside baseball town. Yeah,

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yeah, business, They're like,
she's married to that fucking nightmare.

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Let's give an Oscar. She deserves
it, She's she has kept him contained

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for a decade. Yeah. We
all know now what happens when Alec Baldwin

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is not married to Kim Basinger,
and I think we all preferred it when

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he was Oh god, people lose
their lives. Oh, I wasn't even

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afraid to. I was referrad to
the fact that his thirty year old wife

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keeps popping out kids like she's a
log flume. Like just oh, I

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s thinking about all the all the
paparazzi for which you know, what if

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you're going to beat someone up.
I'm not mad at it, but I

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think we can both agree he's probably
a pretty lousy person to have to live

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with. I've heard. I've heard
a lot of stories about Alec Baldwin that

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way, before the whole rust thing
that implied that he was not pleasant.

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Also, to be clear, I
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don't think he meant to hurt anyone. Of course not. I feel actually

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bad for they feel genuinely horrible for
him, because it must be I can't

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even think about what that must be
like. Agreed. However, also though,

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also stop having kids, Stop having
kids, and stop being a rage

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monster. Yeah, yeah, we're
gonna talk more about rage monsters in this

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episode. Oh my god, we
have the prototypic. Do you think that's

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why she was so good this movie? She understood like can you can you

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believably fall in love with a rage
monster? She's like, bitch, watch

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it all right. James L.
Roy, the author of the novel upon

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which this film was based, has
expressed a wide range of opinions about it.

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When it first premiered, he called
it a work of art on its

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own level. In twenty twenty three, he called it a turkey of the

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highest form, about as deep as
a tortilla. You know what what a

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writer wants to be? Sassy?
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weapons. I put this in here
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three James Elroy take on this movie, and I think Eric is a little

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bit more of the earlier take on
the movie. Is that correct? Think

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we probably are going to come closer
than we think in like terms of actual

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opinion. I like the movie more
than you do. I know I do.

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I like the genre very much,
and so I'm much more forgiving of

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its, like piccadillos, like the
way you love like you know, rom

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coms have dumb premises, but you
love them anyway. Right, Yeah,

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totally. I am a crime thriller. There's gonna be holes in the plot.

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I'm playing with it. I'm totally
fine with it. That's totally fair,

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totally fair. But yeah, so
anyway, this is funny. La

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Confidential has a ninety nine percent critical
rating on Rotten Tomatoes and a ninety four

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percent audience score. Shoppingly nothing for
cherry Picks here. I looked on cherry

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Picks. It does not feature.
They didn't even touch it. They were

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like, no, have we done
a ninety nine percent critical rate they did

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for his gunk get ninety nine.
I don't even know. This is very

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high, Like I don't know that
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gotten in the nineties before. Definitely. It also suffers a little bit from

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like what I call like like twenty
twenty syndrome, totally meaning like looking back

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at something. Yeah. Yeah,
it was nominated for an oscar it one

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oscars. It was universally loved,
and it's time and then you rewatch it

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and you're like her, I guess, is she funny? Like great arrested

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development, Paul perfect? Well done? Yeah her? Okay, yeah,

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she must be. She has a
sense of humor. She eats eggs all

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in one in one in one bite, right, yeah, just like to

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squeeze the mayonnaise packet into her mouth
with the egg. Yeah that's kind Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah. I don't think
ninety nine percent is exactly deserved,

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Okay, but I actually would go
high. I'd give it like an eighty

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five ninety Okay. I think i'd
be about it, like I don't think

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the movie's bad. I want to
be I don't think it's like a terrible

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movie. I would probably give it
seventy seventy five. Yeah. I don't

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think the movies as ambitious as as
people think it is. I think it's

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trying to be a really serviceable period
piece slash crime thriller. In the vein

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of a Postman always rings twice kind
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agree with what you say about like
that rings very true to me, and

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so for that, it like fulfills
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it checks all the all the boxes. Well, there's there's two boxes.

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I would like to them to go
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that, I think, really that
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are like is that a check mark? Did you actually? It's like that

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that scene in Succession? Did he
underline or cross out Kendall's name? Yeah?

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Is that a hanging chad on that
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What does this mean? Yeah?
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will, we will. Erica,
when did you first see La Confidential?

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I saw in the theater. Okay, I still do like it very much.

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I don't love it the way I
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it. The first time I saw
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don't know how many of its predecessors
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so I don't know if I was
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oh, this is like a color
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noirs, like I'd probably seen Malty's
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that, but not too many.
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intervening years. Maybe, but I'm
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And then I saw it for the
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how about you, Paul, So
this is this is going to back

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up entirely what you were just saying
about about the movie's ambitions. I had

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never seen it, and I went
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masterpiece on the level of like like
a good Fella's That's what I was like

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buckling myself down for and like like
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Right. I am not exaggerating when
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murderer in this murder mystery was before
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doubt in my mind. There was
more doubt in my mind during So I

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married an axe murderer about who the
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and that was Amanda Plumber. So
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first time I watched it, I'll
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like it because I just went my
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which isn't fair. It's not fair
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not the movie's fault. Really.
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you about it, and I think
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I'll just know what I'm getting.
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like it a lot more. There
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for all of those unchecked boxes that
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liked it all right, Erica.
The tagline for La Confidential was everything is

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suspect, everyone is for sale,
and nothing is what it seems. That's

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a lot. It's a lot.
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was before the murder was committed.
It's like I have found the big bad

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of the movie. But did you
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was the thing that shocked me when
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how many of these people are evil? Again, I think, what what

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you're talking about with the twenty twenty
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terrible? The movie is very much
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what the movie is about, and
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under a lot more scrutiny generally in
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like Okay, yeah, they're all
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which, which again isn't the movie's
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know. What's interesting is I remember
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I was a teenager, sure,
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nineties, and so that really wasn't
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been. It should have been on
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was a kid, and so I
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like this is really like, gosh, things you just used to be a

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whole lot worse, didn't they?
Yeah? Yeah, Uh do you want

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to read the iTunes synopsis? Sure, I'm gonna do it. Like Danny

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DeVito's character, please do Los Angeles, nineteen fifty three, Just beneath a

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glamorous venier of Hollywood gossip and movie
stars Liza, crime ridden city corrupt to

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its core. Now, while investigating
a brutal murder, three very different police

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detectives will rediscover a common bond of
integrity in the blockbuster film noir Thrilla La

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Confidential. Well done, Well done, my friend? Actual synopsis. Finally

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cops that are good at being cops? Am I right? Actual synopsis?

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What if Iron Man, The Hulk
and Captain America pre super Soldier Serum were

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detectives in nineteen fifties Los Angeles?
See go but also terrible people, But

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terrible people, awful awful people.
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will come right back after these messages. For all you non patrons out there,

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patrons, you'll have to stick around
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be right back. We're going to
take you through La Confidential, and we're

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back. We open up in nineteen
fifty three Los Angeles, as Sid Hudgens

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played by Danny DeVito narrates, should
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we have Duelingdavito's dueling Devirido's yes,
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narrats in voiceover come to Los Angeles. The sun shines bright, the beaches

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are wide and inviting, and the
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can see. Their jobs are plenty, and land is cheap. Every working

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man can have his own house,
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American family. You can have all
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even be discovered, become a movie
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Life is good in Los Angeles.
It's paradise on Earth. That's what they

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tell you anyway, because they're selling
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radio, and television. This is
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of like average Angelina's but like glamorous
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down, walking through parks, and
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And beautiful the city is. Sid
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La crime kingpin Mickey Cohen, has
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leaving a power vacuum in the underworld, and assures us that it's only a

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matter a time before someone with balls
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finally see him and realize that he's
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off the record on the QT and
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we see the cover of Sid's magazine, also called Hush Hush, with his

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story about Mickey Cohen and also a
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but it actually is spelled with an
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Hollywood, which had me thinking,
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have? I mean, it's really
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the Aswan Dam, and then all
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are the three I could come up
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Damn Yankees? But that's a famous
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that was spelled d. I guess
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away with the other spelling, like
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Maybe that's why I am but holy
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catch that. We cut directly to
Officer Wendell Budd White played by Russell Crowe,

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noted rage monster Russell Crowe. Yeah, is this is this roll of

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reach for him? We'll find out. We'll find out. I think this

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is my first time seeing him possibly
and my first or second time seeing Guy

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pierced. We discussed this in the
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I'm pretty sure I saw this movie
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in Priscilla, they literally blew my
mind. I was like, A,

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You're Australian and b what, Yeah, you're amazing? Well they and they

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were. They were not names in
the US for this movie. Kevin Spacey

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was the name in this film.
Yes, I remember the movie star Yeah,

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yeah, because he had just won
the Oscar for Usual Suspects. Usual

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Suspects another great film, but like
the most problematic and director like just awful.

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And so my big takeaway I was
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movie was these two guys are gonna
be huge stars. And I was not

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wrong. Okay, so I have
some issues with Bud's character. We will

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get into that later, but I
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fantastic. It's one of those like
an actor taking the most underbaked role in

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a movie and being like this and
you're like, how'd you make a soufle

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well done? That's fair. I
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blue eyed, stone faced cop staring
into a house where he can see a

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domestic violence incident through the window right
in the backseat of his car since his

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partner, Detective Sergeant Dick Stenzland played
by Graham Beckel, he's swigging on a

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flask and mocking Bud for his obsession
with saving battered women when what they should

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be doing instead is picking up the
rest of the alcohol for the police officer's

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precincts Christmas party. I mean,
the movie does tell you immediately what it

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is, Bud radios for a beat
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the husband for being a parole violator, because you're not you know, he

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shouldn't be hitting his wife. It's
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he's like, you'll see the guy, but we won't be here anymore,

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and like and like, his partner
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knows exactly what's coming. Yeah,
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back seat and continues to get drunk. Bud yanks the Santa display off the

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roof of the house to get the
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husband up and handcuffs him to the
porch and tells him that if he ever

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touches his wife again, he'll have
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I don't know how, Yeah,
I really don't, But okay, I

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think the movie is telling us.
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us that cops were able to do
this sort of thing. Yeah. We

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cut to Detective Sergeant Jack Vincenn's played
by Kevin Spacey. We've done a couple

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Kevin Spacey movies on the podcast.
Very problematic figure. We're not going to

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unpack all of that here. We're
going to discuss the performance, not the

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man, uh, the creep.
You mean the absolute fucking creep, absolute

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weirdo that this person is the super
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In this movie. Jack is a sleazy

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fame whore. He's enjoying himself at
a party and he we learned that he's

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the technical advisor for the TV series
Badge of Honor, which is a job

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he delights in. Sid enters at
Standy DeVito sid comes in he reports to

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Jack he has the scoop on a
studio contract player named Matt Reynolds, who

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picked up some marijuana and is enjoying
himself with another starlet. He calls Pothead's

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Grasshoppers here, which I'd never heard
before and I thought was very funny.

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Okay, there's so many slurs in
this movie that I actually was like,

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a I have a couple of weeks now

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four gay people that I was like, I like them, both slits,

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and I think we need to bring
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is brought back, but the other
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I love it. I love it
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deal where Jack gets the arrest and
like and Sid gets the scoop. So

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Jack gets like held up as this
great cop. He continues his job like

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that's what he wants. Sid gets
money for hush hush. Eventually, Jack

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and Sid carry out their plan.
They bust Matt Reynolds, played in his

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film debut by Simon Baker, another
Australian. Do they hijack a plane from

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Australia to Los Angeles and force these
men to be in the movie. Curtis

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Hansen vacationed in Melbourne one summer,
and suddenly all we have, all these

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Australian movie stars. When going through
Matt's possessions, Jack finds a business card

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reading Fleur de Lye, whatever you
desire all of Sid's like voice over here

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when he arrests these two hopheads for
smoking that refer it is right out of

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refer Madness, which just made me
want to rewatch Reefer Madness totally. Have

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you ever seen refer Madness? I
saw the musical they did of it in

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like the two thousands. I own
a DVD copy of the original. Like

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it is so funny and so good. I'm gonna bring it over one night.

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We're gonna have We're gonna have some
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edibles and watch some Reefer Madness.
Okay, sounds good, I'm in.

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We meet Sergeant Ed Exley, played
by shocking Australian guy Pierce. His American

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accent is perfect. So Ed is
this straight laced young cup who's hoping to

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follow in his father's footsteps. He's
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Right, he's the boy genius of
the of the LAPD. Everyone keeps

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telling him to get rid of the
glasses, and I'm like, what do

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you expect him to They didn't have
contacts in the fifties. There's a whole

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there's there's like fifty minutes of this
film. Yeah, this man does his

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full ass job with no glasses on, and it is distracting one percent of

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the time. I mean it's a
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he's reading at his desk. I
would have loved him to be like like

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holding the paper right up to his
eyes, to be like, wait,

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I can't read this report. What
does it say? Yeah, he murders

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like three people whilst not wearing his
glasses, which correct problematic. So his

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boss, they're all of their boss
is precinct Captain Dudley Smith, played by

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James Cromwell with sometimes an Irish accent
and sometimes not an Irish accent. Just

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get over it, that's correct.
Just deal. Huh. It's gonna happen

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when it happens. It's gonna happen. It's gonna show up when it fucking

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feels like it and then it's gonna
go away like the groundhog. So shut

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your faces. If the line has
Boyo in it, he's Irish. If

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it doesn't, he's more American.
He's American. It comes in ghosts Ah.

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He does the same thing on succession. Did you notice where he sometimes

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has an accent on succession? Totally
and it's a scott It's like Scottish.

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I think they're supposed to be Scottish
succession, but they're never neither of them,

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like, actually does a Scottish accent. Well. So Dudley is a

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smooth operator. Yeah, never gets
worried. He's always on top right.

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Ed tells Smith that he wants to
be a detective, and Smith is like,

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ooh, okay, anything but that
job, like you would be amazing

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and internal affairs and Ed's like no, no, no, I want to

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be a detective like my dad was. And then Dudley's like, okay,

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but would you be willing to plant
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a criminal who might be found innocent
in a court of law even though you

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know he's guilty right in the back, Yeah, to make sure he doesn't

402
00:28:10.720 --> 00:28:14.240
get away. And Ed's like no, I want to be a detective,

403
00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:18.839
not a criminal. I would like
to not break the law in the pursuit

404
00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:22.759
of justice. Is that cool with
you? And Dudley's like, no,

405
00:28:22.200 --> 00:28:26.440
actually, no, no, that's
not how this works. So we cut

406
00:28:26.519 --> 00:28:30.400
to Bud at the liquor store picking
up the bottles and bottles of liquor for

407
00:28:30.519 --> 00:28:33.559
the police precinct Christmas party. Honestly, for the nineteen fifties, it was

408
00:28:33.640 --> 00:28:38.440
not as much booze as I expected. He's waiting for his order and the

409
00:28:38.559 --> 00:28:44.400
door opens and Lynn Bracken played by
Kim Basinger enters. She's in a like

410
00:28:44.480 --> 00:28:48.440
a black cloak with a white lining
around the hood. The reddest lips you

411
00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:52.680
ever did see an extremely famous shot
this introduction of this character. Yeah,

412
00:28:53.039 --> 00:28:56.400
I think the movie wants to posit
a little bit of love at first sight

413
00:28:56.799 --> 00:29:00.039
here, which is I find a
very silly thing to and a crime thriller,

414
00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:03.559
but short whatever, just go okay, I'll just get into it now.

415
00:29:03.759 --> 00:29:07.720
She's supposed to be like unflappable and
chilly to the point where like you

416
00:29:07.799 --> 00:29:11.480
can't tell what she's thinking or whose
side she's on, right, that's part

417
00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:12.359
of it. Like, yeah,
she supposed to be the them fatal,

418
00:29:12.480 --> 00:29:15.240
right? Is she a villain?
Is she not? Right? Is she

419
00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:18.400
the theem fatal or is she the
sacrificial angel? Right? She's a little

420
00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:22.799
bit of both in this movie.
That's the that's the innovation that they're going

421
00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:26.599
for here. But the problem with
that is she just seems so irritated by

422
00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:30.680
him from the jump. He will
just straight up start stalking her. That's

423
00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:33.759
his like courtship of this lady.
Is he just stalks her? And I'm

424
00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:37.599
like, why is she okay with
this? Like, yeah, it is

425
00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:44.240
very poorly written, this romance,
And I do end up sort of believing

426
00:29:44.279 --> 00:29:48.240
them because these are both really really
good actors who made me believe it by

427
00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:52.240
the end. But the journey to
get to their relationship, I was like,

428
00:29:52.440 --> 00:29:55.799
I don't buy any of this.
I think where we diverged it didn't

429
00:29:55.799 --> 00:29:59.440
get me at the end. At
the end, it remained dumb to me.

430
00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:03.240
Yeah, it's so pretty dumb the
whole time. But they're both so

431
00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:07.519
good that I believe them by the
ends. This is the part of the

432
00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:11.200
field. These are the two boxes
I would like checked. So Bud says

433
00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:14.319
Merry Christmas, and Lynn immediately clocks
him as a cop and he's like,

434
00:30:14.359 --> 00:30:15.519
oh my god, is it that
obvious? And she's like, well,

435
00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:19.599
you know, kind of. So
he leaves and he notices a car parked

436
00:30:19.640 --> 00:30:25.640
outside, and in the backseat of
this car the debonair Pierce Moorhouse Patchet played

437
00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:30.000
by David Straight There and the lovely
Susan leffert So has a bandaged on her

438
00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:36.240
nose, which to me immediately said
rhinoplasty. But well, just remember Bud

439
00:30:36.359 --> 00:30:38.440
is obsessed with saving battered women,
right, so he immediately walks up so

440
00:30:38.559 --> 00:30:44.400
the driver will let her learn his
name is Leland. Meeks interferes, Bud

441
00:30:44.720 --> 00:30:48.920
tosses Leland on the back of the
car, disarms him, and then forces

442
00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:52.200
them to roll down the window.
Pierce assures him the amber is fine.

443
00:30:52.400 --> 00:30:56.480
Bud's not convinced, and then from
behind him the angel appears. Lynn is

444
00:30:56.519 --> 00:30:57.680
there and she says he's telling the
truth. It's not what you think.

445
00:30:57.920 --> 00:31:02.279
And Susan says, I'm fine,
mister le me alone and that they just

446
00:31:02.880 --> 00:31:04.599
drive off and Bud lets it go. He is so over the top.

447
00:31:04.680 --> 00:31:10.440
He is cartoonishly violent throughout the film, so like he is the Hulk in

448
00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:14.519
my earlier metaphor. Leland comes out
of the car and it's like, can

449
00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:17.279
I help the office, And before
you can even finish the word officer,

450
00:31:17.400 --> 00:31:21.720
he is like being thrown on the
hood of the car and like roughed up,

451
00:31:21.759 --> 00:31:26.640
and I'm like, ask a question, any question. We do not

452
00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:30.559
know what these people's relationships to each
other are. I get it. You're

453
00:31:30.599 --> 00:31:34.480
concerned for her safety, just you
know, it could be her father picking

454
00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:38.000
her up from her husband who beat
her. You don't know what's going on

455
00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:41.559
here. You don't know what's going
on. Maybe she plays softball and she

456
00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:44.640
got hit in the face. Come
on, like, I doubt it talking

457
00:31:44.640 --> 00:31:49.720
about Andre new Diykes in Hollywood.
So Bud backs off and he goes back

458
00:31:49.759 --> 00:31:53.200
in stens Land. That's his drunken
partner. He's kind of looking at the

459
00:31:53.599 --> 00:31:56.400
car and he comments that he knew
Leland when he was in the force,

460
00:31:56.559 --> 00:31:59.839
but he doesn't know anyone else.
He doesn't know what's going on over there.

461
00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:04.240
Everyone converges in the police station.
A group of cops arrived with six

462
00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:08.839
Mexican men under arrest, reportedly for
brutally beating two LAPD officers. We find

463
00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:13.640
out that like literally the guys are
home with bruises that's it, like they

464
00:32:13.680 --> 00:32:16.640
were fine. There is a slur
against Mexicans in the scene that really that

465
00:32:16.759 --> 00:32:22.319
actually made me laugh. Someone calls
them taco benders. Let's get those taco

466
00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:27.200
benders, And I was like,
is that the burn you think it is?

467
00:32:27.640 --> 00:32:31.000
Like, tacos are delicious, tacos
are amazing. The idea that like

468
00:32:31.160 --> 00:32:35.920
that's going to hurt someone's feelings.
There are other slurs used in this which

469
00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:40.160
I will not say, which are
much harsher the taco bender ones. I

470
00:32:40.319 --> 00:32:43.960
like that in the fifties someone would
have been like, ouch, that really

471
00:32:44.039 --> 00:32:51.359
hurts my feelings. So the six
Mexican men are arrived at the police station.

472
00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:54.839
They're getting booked. Soon it blows
completely out of proportion, and these

473
00:32:55.079 --> 00:33:00.240
very drunk cops are like giving each
other tall tales about how colleagues are basically

474
00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:05.680
on their deathbeds and one of them
lost an eye because these guys beat the

475
00:33:05.759 --> 00:33:07.160
shit out of them and like attack
them in the middle of the night.

476
00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:13.920
Stenzlynd, who is so drunk,
leads an angry mob of drunken policemen into

477
00:33:13.960 --> 00:33:16.680
the lock up under Ed's protests.
He gets overruled. He gets thrown into

478
00:33:16.839 --> 00:33:22.119
like a prison cell, like a
solitary confinement cell by the other cops,

479
00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:25.519
and then the rest of the cops
start just beating the shit out of these

480
00:33:25.559 --> 00:33:30.960
six guys. One of the six
guys stupidly says fuck your mother to but

481
00:33:32.519 --> 00:33:37.200
Bud is actually trying to de escalate
the situation. He runs in to like

482
00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:39.880
get to his partner and he's like, hey, man, stop beating up

483
00:33:39.920 --> 00:33:43.759
these guys. It's not good.
It's not a good look for anyone.

484
00:33:44.079 --> 00:33:45.119
And then one of the guys is
like, fuck your mother, and he's

485
00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:52.319
like, all right, taco bender, let's go. Jack gets involved in

486
00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:55.720
the brawl too, he ends up
punching one of the guys out. Unfortunately,

487
00:33:55.960 --> 00:34:00.599
none of these idiots has noticed that
there's still a reporter at the praisinct

488
00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:05.279
who was doing a story was gonna
do like this silly little puff piece,

489
00:34:05.319 --> 00:34:09.920
but instead catches this huge story about
a bunch of cops beating up a bunch

490
00:34:09.920 --> 00:34:14.880
of suspects. And then you see
the headline the next morning and it's Christmas

491
00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:19.320
massacre. So this is a fictionalization
of the bloody Christmas scandal that actually happened

492
00:34:19.400 --> 00:34:22.719
in nineteen fifty one. So this
is like a little bit of real world

493
00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:28.639
stuff happening. I genuinely think the
movie has the movie is on the correct

494
00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:30.519
side of history. The movie makers, they do not think any of the

495
00:34:30.559 --> 00:34:34.880
stuff is good. They do not
think any of this stuff is like no,

496
00:34:35.079 --> 00:34:39.559
wait right, But because it was
in nineteen ninety seven, still none

497
00:34:39.599 --> 00:34:45.760
of the victims of any of this
get any characterization. There's no look at

498
00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:50.559
anyone who isn't white other than just
a victim of white people. And it

499
00:34:51.000 --> 00:34:54.360
started to grate on me a lot. Like there's a group of black suspects

500
00:34:54.440 --> 00:34:59.559
later that get a little bit more
characterization, but it's still it's just like,

501
00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:04.880
this is a story about police brutality, and we're not going to humanize

502
00:35:04.960 --> 00:35:07.519
anyone that the police are brutalizing.
They're just there to be brutalized. I

503
00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:09.800
mean, these guys in particular,
we don't know anything about them. The

504
00:35:09.920 --> 00:35:15.000
guys later in the film are so
horrible. They're so awful that like the

505
00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:21.519
movie almost excuses the police brutalities exactly
because they're they're they're monsters. Yes,

506
00:35:21.719 --> 00:35:23.119
it's a double edged sword. On
one end, it's bad. It's a

507
00:35:23.199 --> 00:35:27.559
bad look for the movie because it
doesn't particularly age well. Because it kind

508
00:35:27.599 --> 00:35:30.599
of lets the lapd off the hook
a little bit. Yeah. I don't

509
00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:31.719
think it fully lets them off the
hook, but it lets them off the

510
00:35:31.760 --> 00:35:35.400
hook a little bit. I think
it's not trying to let them off the

511
00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:37.920
hook. I think they think they're
doing the right thing by like, we're

512
00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:42.519
gonna make these criminals awful. So
when you are watching the movie, you

513
00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:46.599
can still root for maybe yeah,
maybe yeah, because I guess you're supposed

514
00:35:46.639 --> 00:35:50.239
to root for them by the end, these three, these three guys,

515
00:35:50.360 --> 00:35:53.599
right, or at least you're you're
hoping they actually beat the big bad.

516
00:35:53.960 --> 00:35:59.679
I think it's also a way of
like not distracting the audience of not being

517
00:35:59.800 --> 00:36:01.599
like, well, now all I
can think about is police brutality. It's

518
00:36:01.679 --> 00:36:06.519
nineteen ninety seven. Remember what had
just happened in Los Angeles, like with

519
00:36:06.639 --> 00:36:08.559
the LA riots, right, So
that would have been on people's minds.

520
00:36:09.079 --> 00:36:13.639
So if the characters didn't have it's
like, these guys didn't have like,

521
00:36:13.840 --> 00:36:15.400
and I mean a real reason,
not like, oh, they robbed a

522
00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:17.360
store, so let's beat the shit
out of them. No, they did

523
00:36:17.440 --> 00:36:22.679
something fucking horrible. It's the only
way the audience can move past it.

524
00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:24.760
I think to be like, okay, yeah, but those guys did kind

525
00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:30.119
of deserve to be punished for what
they dido, even though they did in

526
00:36:30.239 --> 00:36:35.679
the completely wrong way, you know, and for the wrong reasons, and

527
00:36:35.880 --> 00:36:38.360
they were being demeaned. Racial slurs
were being used the whole time, and

528
00:36:38.559 --> 00:36:43.840
like it like it's not good,
but it's I think it's slightly letting the

529
00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:49.440
audience off the hook. We cut
to the aftermath of this of this police

530
00:36:49.440 --> 00:36:52.519
brutality incident. We meet d A. Ellis Lowe played by the Great Ron

531
00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:58.440
Rifkin, the police chief, and
Captain Smith that's James Cromwell. They're interviewing

532
00:36:58.480 --> 00:37:02.639
the officers implicated. Bud refuses to
testify he loses his gun in badge.

533
00:37:02.840 --> 00:37:06.559
Ed, on the other hand,
is more than happy to testify against his

534
00:37:06.679 --> 00:37:09.679
colleagues and even offers some advice.
He says, switch most of the blame

535
00:37:09.719 --> 00:37:14.880
to the officers whose pensions are secured, and then give jail time to Stensland

536
00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:16.960
and Bud because they were the two
biggest problems in it, right because at

537
00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:22.199
first Stensen was beating everybody, Bud
came in to stop it. Fuck your

538
00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:24.639
mother happened, and then everything really
went to shit after that, and the

539
00:37:24.920 --> 00:37:30.519
photograph that this press got was like
Bud right in the middle of the brawl.

540
00:37:30.719 --> 00:37:35.000
Yeah. Right, So these are
all the cops that are like physically

541
00:37:35.119 --> 00:37:37.960
in the photograph. There's absolutely no
way they can deny. Yeah, something

542
00:37:38.039 --> 00:37:40.920
happened. Smith is fine with getting
rid of Stensland. He said it's a

543
00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:44.840
terrible cop. He fails all of
his physicals, blah blah blah. But

544
00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:46.519
he says, Bud, Bud's a
good a good guy. We need Bud

545
00:37:46.559 --> 00:37:52.280
on the force. The chief likes
Ed's moxie, promotes him to lieutenant.

546
00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:54.840
On the spot, Ed bargains up
to detective lieutenant, and then he gives

547
00:37:54.880 --> 00:37:58.920
the panel the edge. They need
to flip Jack as well. He says,

548
00:37:59.239 --> 00:38:02.280
threaten Jack place at badge of honor. That's what he actually cares about.

549
00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:06.760
Demoteum device, tell him until he
gets a big hit, he can't

550
00:38:06.760 --> 00:38:08.199
go back up to narcotics. He
can't go back to badge of honor.

551
00:38:08.280 --> 00:38:12.400
And if he doesn't testify, he
gets nothing. He'll be off Badge of

552
00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:15.719
honor forever. They do it.
Jack flips and that's how we get our

553
00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:20.360
testimonies against wouldn't you want to be
on vice if you were Jack Vice is

554
00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:22.800
sexy, right right, that's where
all that that's where all the sexy crowd.

555
00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:27.719
That's a terrible thing to say.
But like in terms of like Hush

556
00:38:27.800 --> 00:38:30.320
Hush magazine, I would you'd want
to be on Vice. Maybe he had

557
00:38:30.360 --> 00:38:34.119
to be on I think the implication
was he had to be on narcotics to

558
00:38:34.199 --> 00:38:37.599
be the technical advisor on Badge of
Honor. I presume maybe Badge of Honor

559
00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:39.800
the guy is a narcotics detective.
That actually makes a lot of sense.

560
00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:44.159
Yeah, they never made it clear, but that's that's the implication. Gotcha.

561
00:38:44.719 --> 00:38:46.800
After the trial, Dudley meets with
Bud and gives him back his gun

562
00:38:46.880 --> 00:38:51.079
and badge like in a bar,
which is exactly how those things should be

563
00:38:51.159 --> 00:38:54.840
done. Yep. He informs him
that STENSLNN is done, but I think

564
00:38:54.960 --> 00:39:00.960
you have something that the police force
needs, emphasis on the word. He

565
00:39:01.119 --> 00:39:07.800
reassigns Bud to homicide and says you
won't be working cases. You don't have

566
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:10.000
the brains to be a detective.
You have something else which is very useful

567
00:39:10.039 --> 00:39:13.840
to us. You do what I
say and when I say it, and

568
00:39:13.920 --> 00:39:17.880
you don't ask questions, and I
love that about you. Yeah, so

569
00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:23.159
we get a little montage of Bud
working for Dudley basically, and we hear

570
00:39:23.320 --> 00:39:29.000
with Sid's voiceover, Sid, remember
is Danny DeVito that anyone attempting to rise

571
00:39:29.079 --> 00:39:31.199
up in the ranks of the la
underworld and take the place of Mickey Cohen.

572
00:39:31.239 --> 00:39:36.199
Remember Mickey Cohen has been arrested for
tax eVision. At the very beginning

573
00:39:36.239 --> 00:39:38.280
of the movie, right Mickey Cohen
by the way real person, we see

574
00:39:38.480 --> 00:39:45.719
two assassins like follow around Mickey Cohen's
associates and shoot them right so like his

575
00:39:45.800 --> 00:39:50.519
lieutenants are being shot. His head
narcotics dealer is shot. Right at that

576
00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:54.679
particular shooting, we see someone in
a suit take away the suitcase full of

577
00:39:54.719 --> 00:39:59.039
heroin. We don't see who it
is. Meanwhile, Bud is acting as

578
00:39:59.039 --> 00:40:02.519
an enforcer dismis and he is basically
anyone who's coming in from out of town

579
00:40:02.679 --> 00:40:08.039
to take Mickey's place is being immediately
intercepted by the cops, like crime lords

580
00:40:08.039 --> 00:40:13.719
from like Cincinnati and from Chicago are
being immediately intercepted by the cops, taken

581
00:40:13.760 --> 00:40:16.960
to some motel on the outskirts of
town. I think it looks like Bakersfield,

582
00:40:16.960 --> 00:40:22.000
That's what I'm getting The impression of
and like Bud is basically beating them

583
00:40:22.039 --> 00:40:24.480
within an inch of their life.
Well, Dudley's like, go back to

584
00:40:24.519 --> 00:40:28.000
where you came from. We don't
want you here. So we cut to

585
00:40:28.239 --> 00:40:31.599
Ed. He's working late in the
homicide department as a new detective lieutenant does,

586
00:40:32.360 --> 00:40:36.880
and he's the only person present to
respond to a reported murder at the

587
00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:39.639
night Owl coffee shop. He rushes
over there. He's thrilled to have his

588
00:40:39.719 --> 00:40:44.719
first big assignment, and he finds
the short order cook murdered behind the counter,

589
00:40:44.920 --> 00:40:49.639
plus five bodies all in the bathroom. Dudley arrives. That's the captain

590
00:40:50.280 --> 00:40:52.760
and Ed is like, this is
my case, and Dudley's like, I'm

591
00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:54.480
your boss, it's my case,
but you can be my second in command.

592
00:40:55.039 --> 00:40:59.920
Fine, And we find out that
one of the victims is Dick Stensland,

593
00:41:00.039 --> 00:41:02.679
Bud's old partner. We cut to
the morgue. We have a whole

594
00:41:02.719 --> 00:41:06.920
scene of Russell Crowe rushing in and
being overwhelmed by the fact that his ex

595
00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:09.280
partner is dead and I'm like,
I don't care. Shut up, this

596
00:41:09.400 --> 00:41:15.360
guy sucked. You suck. Stop
trying to make me feel anything. Hey,

597
00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:19.519
movies, stop trying to make Paul
feel things. It's not welcome.

598
00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:30.880
Oh God. Meanwhile, Bud overhears
another body being identified as Susan Lefferts.

599
00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:34.199
That is the woman that was in
the back seat with the rhinoplasty that he

600
00:41:34.239 --> 00:41:37.039
saw at the liquor store. Susan's
mother is there. She's overcome. She's

601
00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:40.239
saying that she fought with Susan the
last time she saw her about her boyfriend,

602
00:41:40.320 --> 00:41:45.000
that her mother didn't like her boyfriend. And she even until she sees

603
00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:47.280
a birthmark on the body's hips,
she can't even be sure it's Susan because

604
00:41:47.280 --> 00:41:52.119
she looks so different, right,
Susan went from a blonde to a redhead.

605
00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:55.159
She's obviously, as we now know, had that knows job that rhino

606
00:41:55.199 --> 00:41:59.400
PLASTI done recently, so her face
is different. We overhear one of the

607
00:41:59.480 --> 00:42:02.280
cops like as or one of the
morgantendees rather as they're wheeling her in.

608
00:42:02.440 --> 00:42:05.920
Say, for a second, I
thought it was Rita Hayworth. Yea,

609
00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:08.679
so she's supposed to look like Rita
Hayworth. I'm gonna be a real bitch

610
00:42:08.760 --> 00:42:13.000
here. Shouldn't look at anything like
Rita Hayworth. I was like, why

611
00:42:13.119 --> 00:42:15.519
did they cast this actress to play
this role, she literally does not.

612
00:42:16.000 --> 00:42:19.480
I mean, she's a redhead and
so was Rita Hayworth, But that,

613
00:42:19.719 --> 00:42:22.920
like, are they hoping by nineteen
ninety seven most people will have just forgotten

614
00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:25.880
what Rita Hayworth looks like. Maybe
because I'll tell you Kim Besinger is a

615
00:42:27.079 --> 00:42:30.079
pretty decent Veronica Lake that that isn't
one to one I can see, but

616
00:42:30.199 --> 00:42:35.239
I don't see it with this girl. So we cut to a debriefing where

617
00:42:35.320 --> 00:42:37.840
Dudley is telling the department about the
night Owl case. He goes through the

618
00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:43.239
fact that like a certain car was
spotted outside the night Owl around the times

619
00:42:43.239 --> 00:42:46.119
of the killings. He points the
finger at three young black men who were

620
00:42:46.159 --> 00:42:51.559
also like on a car of the
same description and were seen discharging shotguns in

621
00:42:51.599 --> 00:42:54.079
Griffin Park. He basically puts the
entire LAPD on the case. He's like,

622
00:42:54.199 --> 00:42:58.519
find these guys and the car.
They all roll into action to find

623
00:42:58.519 --> 00:43:02.239
the suspects. But who heard Susan
Leffert's idd at the Morgue heads to the

624
00:43:02.280 --> 00:43:05.880
liquor store where he met Lynn.
He fought. He thinks of a shortcut.

625
00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:07.119
He's like, I know a connection
to this case. I'm going to

626
00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:10.400
follow that lead. I'm gonna follow
my penis all the way to that lead.

627
00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:16.199
He winds up at Pierce Patchett's estate
and he wants to know why Susan

628
00:43:16.320 --> 00:43:20.679
had the bandage on her nose the
night that he saw them Pierce Patchett David

629
00:43:20.719 --> 00:43:22.880
Strath. Aaron is like, okay, let me play ball with the cops

630
00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:24.599
because I don't want to. I
don't want to. I don't want any

631
00:43:24.639 --> 00:43:29.719
heat from this murder charge because spoiler, he had almost nothing to do with

632
00:43:29.800 --> 00:43:37.000
it, almost nothing. Pierce tells
him that Susan was undergoing plastic surgery to

633
00:43:37.159 --> 00:43:40.519
look like he like Rita Hayworth to
fill out his quote unquote little studio well

634
00:43:40.679 --> 00:43:44.320
Erica, let me ask, is
her nose similar to Rita Hayworth, because

635
00:43:44.320 --> 00:43:45.800
maybe she had a lot more procedures
that she had to get done. Maybe

636
00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:52.880
she don't fall a fucking overhaul to
look like I've being so mean to that

637
00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:59.960
poor actress. She's beautiful, but
she's beautiful. Hareworth turns out he runs

638
00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:04.360
a prostitution rang, a very very
high class escorts that are made to look

639
00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:07.679
like movie stars. So Lynn is
his Veronica Lake, which is how I

640
00:44:07.800 --> 00:44:09.360
learned who Veronica Lake was when I
first saw this movie, because I hadn't

641
00:44:09.360 --> 00:44:12.880
me. That's how I knew who
Veronica Lake was. Pierce tells Bud he'll

642
00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:15.920
reward him if he finds Susan's killer, and he says, hey, I'll

643
00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:20.079
give you whatever you desire, which
is the tagline for flu Lee we will

644
00:44:20.159 --> 00:44:22.320
remember. Bud heads to Lynn's next. At one point, Pierce is like,

645
00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:24.519
do you want Lynn's addressing? But
It's like no, I got it,

646
00:44:24.599 --> 00:44:27.400
And I'm like, I guess you
could have just looked her up.

647
00:44:27.400 --> 00:44:30.239
I mean, I guess he knows
her name, so I guess he has

648
00:44:30.320 --> 00:44:34.039
access to the police police database or
whatever. We see that poor secretary a

649
00:44:34.079 --> 00:44:36.679
lot in the film, the way
they keep working out all over the place,

650
00:44:37.199 --> 00:44:39.760
Like all three of these cops run
to like the secretaries at the police

651
00:44:39.800 --> 00:44:45.079
station and they're like, give us
like forty years worth of police files and

652
00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:50.800
they don't say please or thank you, and the lady's like fine. So

653
00:44:50.960 --> 00:44:54.280
he meets Lynn again. They start
talking about the case. Lynn says that

654
00:44:54.440 --> 00:44:58.559
Pierce takes a cut of their earnings
and invests it for them. He doesn't

655
00:44:58.599 --> 00:45:00.840
let them use drugs, and he
doesn't abuse them, right, So she's

656
00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:05.360
pretty okay with Pierce. It paints
him as like a decent manager. A

657
00:45:05.440 --> 00:45:07.239
decent manager. Yes, she's like, look, my job might be a

658
00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:12.039
little unconventional, but I don't mind
it and my boss treats me well.

659
00:45:12.119 --> 00:45:15.480
So what like, honestly, as
far as sex work goes, this is

660
00:45:15.960 --> 00:45:17.760
seems like a good deal. This
is a really fucking good deal. Yeah,

661
00:45:17.840 --> 00:45:22.800
yeah, agreed. The two spar
and ultimately Bud says he'd like to

662
00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:27.239
see Lin again, and when she
challenges him if he's asking for an appointment

663
00:45:27.320 --> 00:45:29.880
or a date, he says it
was a mistake and he just leaves.

664
00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:34.679
So like the scene, the scene
has a really heavy lift, right,

665
00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:40.880
it's trying to it's breaking its back
lift. Something a frissant happened between these

666
00:45:40.920 --> 00:45:44.960
two that the audience is going to
have to run on fumes from for the

667
00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:47.960
rest of the movie. Nineteen ninety
seven. Will posit that it worked because

668
00:45:49.119 --> 00:45:52.920
Dave Kim masuger an Oscar for this
and I'm and I am saying it does

669
00:45:52.199 --> 00:45:58.119
not. It doesn't. It is
so weird that she's like hot for this

670
00:45:58.320 --> 00:46:01.800
guy. Yes, given performance that
Russell Crowe is giving too. Because again,

671
00:46:01.880 --> 00:46:06.639
if it was if it was the
Guy Peers character who's slimy but at

672
00:46:06.719 --> 00:46:10.000
least like there's like a sexiness to
him, right, or like even the

673
00:46:10.119 --> 00:46:15.400
Kevin Spacey character who's like knows how
to sweet talk a lady. Perhaps totally,

674
00:46:15.639 --> 00:46:20.440
but Bud is such an OAF,
such a huge oaf and like again

675
00:46:20.559 --> 00:46:24.119
Russell Crowe, very handsome man,
nothing against totally, but like he's not

676
00:46:24.320 --> 00:46:30.679
given sex appeal at all. He's
not giving like anything that like I can

677
00:46:30.760 --> 00:46:32.480
hang my hat onto to be like, well, that's why she loves him.

678
00:46:34.079 --> 00:46:36.559
And I think you could have done
it. I mean this, look,

679
00:46:36.599 --> 00:46:40.079
this would be a very like tropy
stereotypical story, but you could do

680
00:46:40.199 --> 00:46:45.039
it where Lynn only knows bad man
and he's a good man, which is

681
00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:47.039
a moving target in this movie.
But let's go with me for a minute.

682
00:46:47.119 --> 00:46:51.519
Like he's like this like boy scout
figure, you know, like he's

683
00:46:51.599 --> 00:46:53.000
he's the cop who wants to come
rescue her. Like we don't love that

684
00:46:53.599 --> 00:46:58.000
her boss seems to be fine.
It seems to be fine, right fine

685
00:46:58.000 --> 00:47:02.639
with him, and her clients seem
to be delightfully adorable for sex for people

686
00:47:02.639 --> 00:47:07.280
who frequent SE's for hers, Like
like this is the nicest clientele I've ever

687
00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:14.599
seen one of these, like nice
in terms of like they're all very respectful

688
00:47:14.639 --> 00:47:16.480
to her. They all seem to
like her, and she seems to like

689
00:47:16.559 --> 00:47:21.000
them, you know, as much
as one can when you're in the service

690
00:47:21.039 --> 00:47:23.679
industry. She's not being saved,
she doesn't need to be saved, and

691
00:47:23.760 --> 00:47:28.239
that's not actually what's happening. And
to the movie's credit, I don't I

692
00:47:28.320 --> 00:47:31.719
don't think that's where they're going on
purpose, because that's agreed a little more

693
00:47:31.800 --> 00:47:36.159
progressive right to have this sort of
fem fatale who doesn't need to be saved

694
00:47:36.320 --> 00:47:40.159
in fact, is instead saving the
cop, which is what I remembered from

695
00:47:40.199 --> 00:47:43.760
the nineteen Like when I saw it, I was like, Oh, if

696
00:47:43.800 --> 00:47:46.280
you'd ask me before yesterday like her
arc in the movie, I'd be like,

697
00:47:46.559 --> 00:47:49.760
oh, well, she saves the
cop at the end, like she

698
00:47:50.480 --> 00:47:52.679
that's not exactly what happens. That's
sort of what happens, but it's not

699
00:47:52.840 --> 00:47:57.079
exactly what happens. But the problem
is is that it doesn't. I don't.

700
00:47:57.480 --> 00:48:00.719
There's no like, there's nothing to
hang on at the beginning of this

701
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:04.599
relationship. There's a moment later in
the movie when someone he asks her point

702
00:48:04.639 --> 00:48:06.639
blank, why do you like me? And she's like, I don't know

703
00:48:08.000 --> 00:48:14.840
both. I hear you, girl, I hear you that note that that

704
00:48:14.920 --> 00:48:17.760
will come up in the recap that
moment. I'm showed your whole ass on

705
00:48:17.840 --> 00:48:23.880
that one, Curtis Hansen. So
Jack and Ed managed to track down the

706
00:48:24.000 --> 00:48:29.840
Night Owl suspects, Ray Lewis and
Tye using Jack's contacts. They get to

707
00:48:29.920 --> 00:48:34.760
the address and they find another LAPD
team there because they they broke from the

708
00:48:34.840 --> 00:48:38.199
direction of Captain Dudley Smith and they
went behind his back to get to the

709
00:48:38.320 --> 00:48:43.239
end result faster, essentially using Jack's
contacts. By the way, real quick,

710
00:48:43.280 --> 00:48:45.559
I just want to say the scene
right before this, when they're shaking

711
00:48:45.639 --> 00:48:51.679
down Jack's like contact, he's a
he's a boxer that lives in I'm not

712
00:48:51.679 --> 00:48:54.039
sure what neighborhood it would have been, but like a predominantly African American neighborhood,

713
00:48:54.119 --> 00:48:58.719
right. So he's a black man
and like his brother is in prison.

714
00:48:58.960 --> 00:49:02.519
They're basically promising him that they will
take ten years off of his brother's

715
00:49:02.599 --> 00:49:07.599
prison sentence if he helps them with
this case. So he reluctantly agrees to

716
00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:12.679
help the cops and it's so clear
that they're not gonna do shit to help

717
00:49:12.719 --> 00:49:15.800
the brother, and that's that to
me, is almost the worst thing anyone

718
00:49:15.880 --> 00:49:19.000
does in the movie, which in
a movie where people do fucking terrible things,

719
00:49:19.039 --> 00:49:22.039
I'm like, Okay, that's fucking
this guy's genuinely trying to help you.

720
00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:24.559
This scene really is hard to watch, by the way. This is

721
00:49:24.599 --> 00:49:29.199
the scene where like they arrive at
this house and Kevin Spacey is walking around

722
00:49:29.760 --> 00:49:35.400
with like a gun as if it's
a cup of coffee. Like no one

723
00:49:35.440 --> 00:49:37.800
in the history of cinema has ever
seemed less like a cop than Kevin Spacey

724
00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:43.159
in this movie. He just does
not have the cop thing go. I

725
00:49:43.199 --> 00:49:45.360
mean he's not trying to again,
very good actor, it's part of the

726
00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:49.880
character. Yeah, he's like been
out of it for so long. He's

727
00:49:49.880 --> 00:49:52.960
been Hollywood for so long that he
forgot how to do that thing where you

728
00:49:53.000 --> 00:49:55.400
hold the gun under one hit.
Even I know how to do that now.

729
00:49:57.000 --> 00:49:59.800
Yeah, But he's literally like walking
around with like a pistol in his

730
00:49:59.840 --> 00:50:07.239
hand and like no bulletproof vest,
waving it around the amount of time the

731
00:50:07.320 --> 00:50:12.760
people in this film go into a
situation without backup astounding, Yeah, all

732
00:50:12.840 --> 00:50:15.599
right, So they meet this other
team. The other team reports they found

733
00:50:15.719 --> 00:50:19.719
shotguns in the backseat of the car
that matches the description of the car found

734
00:50:19.760 --> 00:50:22.920
at the scene. All seems to
line up. These three men seem like

735
00:50:22.960 --> 00:50:25.639
the killers. They make the arrests, and we cut to the police station

736
00:50:25.960 --> 00:50:30.079
with the three men isolated in separate
cells, and Ed gets to take charge

737
00:50:30.079 --> 00:50:34.559
of the interrogation. He quickly moves
to turn the witnesses against each other by

738
00:50:34.599 --> 00:50:37.360
piping parts of these interviews over the
intercom into the other cells. The whole

739
00:50:37.400 --> 00:50:42.360
section about who's a sissy who takes
it up the ass. There's actually a

740
00:50:42.440 --> 00:50:45.519
fair amount of gay stuff in this
movie. None of it really offended me

741
00:50:45.639 --> 00:50:50.800
because a there's actually no really horrible
gay slurs used in the movie, like

742
00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:53.920
they I don't know if that's trying
to be time accurate or if it's just

743
00:50:54.079 --> 00:51:00.039
simply them trying to not be offensive. That's a very good point. The

744
00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:02.800
thing is, there's slurs across the
entire spectrum of humans. Absolutely. Yeah,

745
00:51:04.119 --> 00:51:07.119
nobody gets away like it's a spray
and pray situation. There's Italian,

746
00:51:07.239 --> 00:51:12.519
there's Irish, there's Jewish, there's
gay, there's women. Seem to do

747
00:51:12.679 --> 00:51:15.800
the best. Actually maybe yeah,
it's because there aren't any in there ignored.

748
00:51:15.920 --> 00:51:19.760
I guess they called whoes a lot, but to be fair, they

749
00:51:19.840 --> 00:51:23.360
are actually prostitutes, so you know, it's not the worst thing. I

750
00:51:23.440 --> 00:51:28.079
guess you could be called. I
was waiting for like one group to get

751
00:51:28.159 --> 00:51:32.360
spared. No one, absolutely as
no one. I think sissy probably was

752
00:51:32.440 --> 00:51:37.119
a really rough term back then,
like really rough, like what the F

753
00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:40.239
word is now to us, but
it's it just came off as like charming.

754
00:51:43.000 --> 00:51:45.679
Every time Guy Pierce is like I
hear you went sissy over it,

755
00:51:46.480 --> 00:51:51.360
juv, And I'm like, oh
my god. Yeah, all right.

756
00:51:51.480 --> 00:51:54.199
So Ray, one of the guys, gives up the drug dealer of the

757
00:51:54.280 --> 00:51:59.920
other two and immediately heads to the
other cell, where Lewis has wet himself.

758
00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:04.639
He's crying hysterically. This kid,
Lewis is completely broken. He stammers

759
00:52:04.679 --> 00:52:07.599
out he only wants to lose his
cherry. Maybe she's still alive. Ed

760
00:52:07.639 --> 00:52:12.840
heads into tie cell to keep up
this line of interrogation, but he's moving

761
00:52:12.920 --> 00:52:16.360
too slow for Bud. So Hulk
Smash, Hulk want questioning to go faster.

762
00:52:16.840 --> 00:52:21.400
Hulk, Well, no, Hulk
heard girl in trouble that's what it

763
00:52:21.559 --> 00:52:24.159
is. Like he soon the second
he's like, maybe she's still alive,

764
00:52:24.880 --> 00:52:29.360
but like his ears perked up and
he was like, what, there's a

765
00:52:29.440 --> 00:52:32.480
woman in trouble somewhere in the city
of Los Angeles. I have to save

766
00:52:32.639 --> 00:52:37.039
this woman, like cartoonishly over the
top. And I do feel a little

767
00:52:37.079 --> 00:52:40.280
bad for Russell Crow because like,
I don't know how you can make this

768
00:52:40.559 --> 00:52:44.880
not stupid. He's hanging on to
like the back of a wooden chair,

769
00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:50.559
and he literally snaps the chair in
half and tears it apart at the prospect

770
00:52:50.639 --> 00:52:57.360
of there being a woman in Los
Angeles somewhere who's been brutalized and needs his

771
00:52:57.559 --> 00:53:01.000
help. And I'm like, okay, okay, down, buddy, Yeah,

772
00:53:02.519 --> 00:53:07.519
this is too You have over peppered
the sauce. Yes, he rushes

773
00:53:07.559 --> 00:53:12.440
into the interrogation. He throws out
aside. He jams his pistol into Ty's

774
00:53:12.519 --> 00:53:15.000
mouth, starts screaming one of six, one of six, and starts pulling

775
00:53:15.039 --> 00:53:20.559
the trigger playing Russian Roulette, screaming
questions at Tye, who breaks down.

776
00:53:20.639 --> 00:53:23.079
He finally takes the pistol out of
his mouth and ty tells them the location

777
00:53:23.239 --> 00:53:28.559
of quote unquote the girl I was
really impressed with Ed in the scene.

778
00:53:28.760 --> 00:53:30.639
I think he's very good at this, Like this is supposed to be a

779
00:53:30.679 --> 00:53:35.840
little bit of like the machiavellian lizard
brained yeah, part of him right,

780
00:53:36.039 --> 00:53:38.000
So and yeah, they demonstrated it
well and and he didn't. I mean,

781
00:53:38.039 --> 00:53:42.280
he was lying to the suspects,
but he wasn't. Like I just

782
00:53:42.360 --> 00:53:47.039
think that's illegal. Still illegal,
yeah to this day, still legal to

783
00:53:47.280 --> 00:53:52.559
do. Yeah. PSA for this
episode once again, if a police officer

784
00:53:52.639 --> 00:53:58.239
even asks you the time, scream
lawyer in their face and don't say a

785
00:53:58.400 --> 00:54:02.559
word until a fucking lawyer shows up. So the police head to the address

786
00:54:02.639 --> 00:54:06.679
given by Tie. Bud goes in
first, because you know, you want

787
00:54:06.719 --> 00:54:08.639
a cool headed cop on the case. You want someone who's going to be

788
00:54:08.679 --> 00:54:13.880
able to read a situation de escalate
as much. Absolutely well, yeah,

789
00:54:13.920 --> 00:54:17.239
you want to save the largest number
of lives it's possible to save the situation.

790
00:54:19.480 --> 00:54:22.679
Bud goes in, he finds a
woman tied to a bed, beaten,

791
00:54:23.119 --> 00:54:28.320
naked. There's a very very like
I was impressed by the shot of

792
00:54:28.559 --> 00:54:31.559
Bud's arm just covers her crotch in
the shot. Yes, I see a

793
00:54:31.639 --> 00:54:35.599
naked woman on the bed, but
like Russell Crowe has to move his arm

794
00:54:35.920 --> 00:54:37.599
at just the right spot so that
we don't see her crotch, which I

795
00:54:37.679 --> 00:54:42.239
was like, well done, cinematographer. Her name is I know is Soto.

796
00:54:42.480 --> 00:54:45.800
She was so basically the story is
she was this girl who was kidnapped,

797
00:54:46.280 --> 00:54:50.880
raped, and beaten by the three
suspects in the police station earlier.

798
00:54:51.320 --> 00:54:53.559
That's why, that's what I was
talking about earlier, Like, yes,

799
00:54:53.679 --> 00:54:57.880
they are being falsely imprisoned. Yes, they were falsely accused of a crime

800
00:54:57.960 --> 00:55:00.760
they did not commit. But we
did we find out in the interrogation that

801
00:55:00.800 --> 00:55:06.199
they'd actually did commit this heinous,
heinous crime against this woman, which is

802
00:55:06.280 --> 00:55:07.880
the movie I think, letting the
audience off the hook. And they also

803
00:55:08.039 --> 00:55:12.679
like mention the fact that one of
them, I think Ray likes to kill

804
00:55:12.760 --> 00:55:15.119
dogs. Yeah, but like they're
like, how many horrible things can we

805
00:55:15.159 --> 00:55:19.559
pile on these falsely accused people to
make sure what happens to them is okay?

806
00:55:19.880 --> 00:55:22.440
So Bud sees the woman with her
eyes. She gestures towards the living

807
00:55:22.519 --> 00:55:25.519
room. She tells him where to
go. He goes into the living room.

808
00:55:25.559 --> 00:55:30.679
He finds a half naked man like
sitting on a couch, eating like

809
00:55:30.880 --> 00:55:35.559
cereal and watching cartoons. He just
fucking shoots him and then puts a gun

810
00:55:35.639 --> 00:55:37.400
in his hand to make it look
like they exchanged gunfire. Right, he

811
00:55:37.440 --> 00:55:42.559
sets up the crime scene. After
all this, they're loading Inas into the

812
00:55:42.599 --> 00:55:45.440
back of an ambulance. She's been
brutalized. This is I think where the

813
00:55:45.519 --> 00:55:50.920
movie is trying to make the audience
like Bud. After killing that guy,

814
00:55:51.039 --> 00:55:53.400
he goes immediately to the bedroom.
He uncuffs her, he like unties her.

815
00:55:53.480 --> 00:55:57.559
He covers her up with a blanket. He like kind of pats her

816
00:55:57.599 --> 00:56:00.679
head and is like everything's gonna be
okay, and she she grabs his hand.

817
00:56:00.840 --> 00:56:04.960
Right, so, like he is
a friend to female victims and everywhere.

818
00:56:05.559 --> 00:56:08.119
Basically it kind of works for me. I'm good enough on this.

819
00:56:08.320 --> 00:56:12.920
I don't still buy that like the
kid Basinger love story with him, but

820
00:56:13.199 --> 00:56:17.719
I do buy the movie's assertion that
he is, although like ludicrously violent and

821
00:56:17.840 --> 00:56:23.000
hilariously violent, like he's essentially a
good person. Like that's there, that's

822
00:56:23.079 --> 00:56:27.800
their assertation, fair enough. So
she's being loaded in the back of an

823
00:56:27.840 --> 00:56:31.599
ambulance and immediately like he's such a
like lizard brain, he just goes right

824
00:56:31.679 --> 00:56:35.079
to her and he's excuse me,
ma'am, what time do those boys leave

825
00:56:35.159 --> 00:56:37.880
last night? Bud shoves him away
and he's like, hey, back the

826
00:56:37.960 --> 00:56:43.039
fuck up, leave her alone.
It escalates until Ed said that Stensland,

827
00:56:43.440 --> 00:56:45.559
the dead cop, got what he
deserved. He deserved to die, and

828
00:56:45.639 --> 00:56:52.360
I'm like, all right, that's
a little harshedry. Obviously, it does

829
00:56:52.440 --> 00:56:55.559
not go over well when Bud Bud
starts to like try to beat the shit

830
00:56:55.639 --> 00:57:01.039
out of Ed. The entire LAPD
basically are called in to hold back Russell

831
00:57:01.119 --> 00:57:05.480
Crowe from beating up Guy Pearce.
Over the radio, we hear that ray

832
00:57:05.599 --> 00:57:12.599
Lewis and Tye have escaped police custody. What Yeah, whose job is it

833
00:57:12.880 --> 00:57:17.719
to watch the three murderers? So
I have to believe that in the book

834
00:57:17.840 --> 00:57:22.599
this happened, and it was eventually
made clear that they were they were allowed

835
00:57:22.639 --> 00:57:25.599
to escape, so they could then
just be murdered, just be murdered,

836
00:57:25.840 --> 00:57:30.159
right like it is made clear in
the movie. I'm being funny. Do

837
00:57:30.199 --> 00:57:32.440
you think it's made clear? Yes, because we are going to find out

838
00:57:32.480 --> 00:57:37.840
at the end of the film that
the two cops that got there before Ed

839
00:57:37.119 --> 00:57:42.400
and Jack right where there did not
only plant evidence, but also murder these

840
00:57:42.440 --> 00:57:45.320
guys. But Ed and Jack got
there first, and then they couldn't kill

841
00:57:45.400 --> 00:57:49.119
them in front of Ed. And
well, I'm sure Jack would have been

842
00:57:49.119 --> 00:57:51.280
fine with it, but they couldn't
kill them in front of Ed because Ed

843
00:57:51.320 --> 00:57:53.960
would have been like, you're not
supposed to murder. Yeah. So back

844
00:57:54.000 --> 00:57:58.440
at the police station, we hear
that Inez gave a statement that would allow

845
00:57:58.519 --> 00:58:00.280
for the three suspects to be at
the night at the time of the murders.

846
00:58:00.360 --> 00:58:05.000
Everything is lining up. Ed remembers
the interrogation that Ray had given a

847
00:58:05.159 --> 00:58:07.159
name of a drug dealer that they
all went to. He's like, give

848
00:58:07.159 --> 00:58:09.480
me the address of that drug dealer. As he's headed out, he says,

849
00:58:09.519 --> 00:58:13.679
I need backup. He takes one
cop with him, one cop one

850
00:58:13.719 --> 00:58:16.000
of the guys that helped them with
the original arrest, to act these guys,

851
00:58:16.159 --> 00:58:22.199
three known a legend murderers at a
drug dealer's apartment. Uh huh,

852
00:58:22.599 --> 00:58:25.320
you are at best outnumbered. You
might be out numbered two to one.

853
00:58:25.920 --> 00:58:30.480
Yeah. They head to the address
of the drug dealer. They bust in,

854
00:58:30.239 --> 00:58:35.159
blah blah blah. Everyone winds up
dead except for Ed. This is

855
00:58:35.199 --> 00:58:39.639
one of those times where he's shooting
people not wearing glasses, so crucially Ed

856
00:58:39.960 --> 00:58:44.360
notices he doesn't have his glasses on, right, and he's like, oh

857
00:58:44.400 --> 00:58:45.159
my glasses, And he's like,
fuck it, let's keep going. And

858
00:58:45.239 --> 00:58:50.119
he goes into the drug dealer's house, right the murders all ensue. He

859
00:58:50.440 --> 00:58:53.079
murders these guys all without his glasses, including the last guy who he doesn't

860
00:58:53.079 --> 00:58:58.119
even see. The last guy,
Tie I think it is, is running

861
00:58:58.199 --> 00:59:02.320
to the elevator and he like basically
jams the elevator up with his shotgun so

862
00:59:02.400 --> 00:59:07.039
it doesn't close and just discharges and
murders him. He does not know there's

863
00:59:07.079 --> 00:59:10.440
no one else in that elevator,
correct, He does not know that,

864
00:59:10.639 --> 00:59:15.559
like he is actually killing anyone,
Like he like he's doing this all like

865
00:59:15.679 --> 00:59:19.599
on instinct, and it's all the
wrong instincts. It is an interesting choice

866
00:59:19.639 --> 00:59:22.760
of the film to have this character
not be a good guy. He has

867
00:59:22.800 --> 00:59:24.800
all the hallmarks of someone who should
be a good guy. I have integrity,

868
00:59:25.119 --> 00:59:29.159
I like to I like to solve
crimes the old fashioned way with you

869
00:59:29.199 --> 00:59:32.039
know, elbow grease and detective work. I don't I don't resort to violence.

870
00:59:32.079 --> 00:59:37.599
But then when push comes to shove. He's fucking awful at it.

871
00:59:37.880 --> 00:59:42.760
Like he he goes, he goes
just as evil as Bud does. Yeah,

872
00:59:42.960 --> 00:59:45.719
just as violent as like any other
any other shitty cop. And it's

873
00:59:45.880 --> 00:59:50.039
it's a really interesting take the movie
has on it, like there are there

874
00:59:50.079 --> 00:59:53.800
are definitely no good guys. Well
it's and it's also we're gonna see like

875
00:59:54.480 --> 00:59:58.320
Ad and Jack are kind of ships
passing in the night as far as their

876
00:59:58.400 --> 01:00:01.239
moral arcs. Yes, right,
like they kind of go in opposite directions.

877
01:00:01.800 --> 01:00:06.400
So Ed is welcomed back to the
station and awarded a medal of Valor.

878
01:00:06.679 --> 01:00:09.719
Right, He's what a hero.
Jack heads back to work on badge

879
01:00:09.719 --> 01:00:13.519
of honor. He gets his promotion
back to narcotics. He's out of vice,

880
01:00:13.599 --> 01:00:17.920
that boring pornography beat. Bud sits
in his car in a downpour,

881
01:00:19.079 --> 01:00:22.320
staring at Lynn's house as she welcomes
a client in nothing upsetting to be found

882
01:00:22.360 --> 01:00:27.239
here. She sees him just staring
at her from across the street, and

883
01:00:27.320 --> 01:00:30.760
she's like, that's kind of sweet. I'm into that. I'm into being

884
01:00:30.880 --> 01:00:37.440
stalked by a weird cup. Broke
the cup, Oh god. Pierce blackmails

885
01:00:37.480 --> 01:00:42.039
a councilman with photos of him and
Lynn and gets approval for the Santa Monica

886
01:00:42.079 --> 01:00:46.039
Freeway. I hear that's a big
road out there. Another movie about nineteen

887
01:00:46.119 --> 01:00:52.519
fifties Los Angeles where the villain is
a freeway magnet who framed Roger Rabbit.

888
01:00:52.840 --> 01:00:58.559
Uh, that was a whole lot
of hoo, frame Roger Rabbit. Dudley

889
01:00:58.639 --> 01:01:01.639
continues to make certain that no one
rises into Mickey Cohen's place, and then

890
01:01:01.719 --> 01:01:07.119
one night Bud finally heads to Lin's. She lets him into her house and

891
01:01:07.159 --> 01:01:12.360
then into her actual bedroom rather than
the Veronica Lake fantasy on the first floor.

892
01:01:12.840 --> 01:01:15.840
And this is when he says,
why me, and she whispers,

893
01:01:15.599 --> 01:01:19.719
I don't know. Now. Look, I have to have something to say.

894
01:01:20.239 --> 01:01:24.039
I believe that these outfits, these
costumes are period accurate. I'm not

895
01:01:25.000 --> 01:01:29.320
what you're to say. But does
he look like a Mormon missionary? No,

896
01:01:29.480 --> 01:01:35.679
he looks like a baby who bigged
himself and like ended up in a

897
01:01:35.800 --> 01:01:38.119
man's outfit and doesn't and doesn't know
how to fit make it fit him,

898
01:01:38.360 --> 01:01:42.079
so he still looks like a bit. It's like a giant baby, a

899
01:01:42.159 --> 01:01:45.519
giant baby, a baby who found
that machine from big and was like,

900
01:01:45.679 --> 01:01:50.559
I want to be a man and
that's what happens. It is not good.

901
01:01:50.880 --> 01:01:54.320
It is not none of that is
good. I mean maybe maybe if

902
01:01:54.360 --> 01:01:59.559
they had posited that at least one
of her clients was just like so hilariously

903
01:01:59.679 --> 01:02:02.400
terrible, which I believe they all
are. She was like, you know,

904
01:02:02.599 --> 01:02:06.800
I just really want to get fucked, just by a normal, like

905
01:02:07.320 --> 01:02:10.320
someone who probably knows how, and
like, like I would buy that.

906
01:02:12.239 --> 01:02:15.599
That's not that the movie is selling
me. And I'm like, just make

907
01:02:15.719 --> 01:02:20.079
me believe this story, please,
because I don't understand why she's into him

908
01:02:20.199 --> 01:02:23.760
at all. Of the three cops, who's the best at fucking? Oh?

909
01:02:24.000 --> 01:02:30.440
But Ed or Jack? Oh that's
a rough one. You know what.

910
01:02:30.679 --> 01:02:36.519
I think Jack. I feel like
Jack's going to be more interested in

911
01:02:36.599 --> 01:02:37.840
like looking at his phone, well
you know what I mean, Like,

912
01:02:37.880 --> 01:02:40.599
I know they don't have cell phones
then, but I feel like Jack is

913
01:02:40.719 --> 01:02:45.360
just not into it. It's definitely
not Ed. See now I disagree.

914
01:02:45.360 --> 01:02:47.920
I think Ed put in the work. I think Ed's read books. I

915
01:02:49.000 --> 01:02:52.920
feel like Ed might be a virgin. Ed Ed understands technique. It might

916
01:02:52.000 --> 01:03:01.079
also be a virgin. I feel
like it would matter to to to Jack's

917
01:03:01.199 --> 01:03:05.920
image enough that he'd be known to
be able to get a woman off that

918
01:03:06.039 --> 01:03:07.800
he would figure it out. He
figured it out. Yeah, Like he's

919
01:03:07.840 --> 01:03:10.679
had a few starlets, and he
feels good about himself. So he's like,

920
01:03:10.760 --> 01:03:14.280
I'm gonna be really good. I'm
gonna I'm gonna work this beat.

921
01:03:14.320 --> 01:03:17.800
I'm gonna be good at this.
I feel like Bud like starts to weep

922
01:03:17.920 --> 01:03:28.159
the minute he comes exactly exactly all
right. So Sid approaches Jack with another

923
01:03:28.239 --> 01:03:31.119
deal. He wants to get a
story on Da Low. That's Ron Rifkin's

924
01:03:31.159 --> 01:03:36.599
character, who turns out is a
Swish. I love it. I love

925
01:03:36.639 --> 01:03:38.800
it. I will be a Swish
all day every day. Ah. I

926
01:03:38.920 --> 01:03:42.840
feel like I feel like with Sissy
that walk, we have reclaimed the word

927
01:03:42.920 --> 01:03:45.800
sissy, but we need to reclaim
the word swish. I think if people

928
01:03:45.840 --> 01:03:47.000
have forgotten it, so they don't. I don't think they know. They

929
01:03:47.039 --> 01:03:51.320
don't realize we have to. But
top of top priority, top priority.

930
01:03:51.639 --> 01:03:54.599
Uh, gay's, lesbian, queers
and everyone in between. Let's let's let's

931
01:03:54.599 --> 01:03:58.800
get swishback. We need it.
Huh. So Jack is more than happy

932
01:03:58.840 --> 01:04:00.400
to go along with that, because
Love was part of that panel that cost

933
01:04:00.480 --> 01:04:02.960
him his job at Badge of Honor, A few months ago, and he's

934
01:04:02.960 --> 01:04:06.519
like, fuck that guy. Yeah. Sid has employed Matt Reynolds, the

935
01:04:08.119 --> 01:04:11.199
Simon Baker guy, right, the
one they busted for pot at the beginning

936
01:04:11.199 --> 01:04:15.280
of the movie, who is quote
unquote Ac Deocy a C d C,

937
01:04:15.440 --> 01:04:18.880
which is apparently bisexual slang. I
never heard that one before. Yeah,

938
01:04:19.000 --> 01:04:24.320
I love ac Eczy. I love
it. I love it. We got

939
01:04:24.440 --> 01:04:28.440
to bring that one back to reclaim
easy. So he's going to bang the

940
01:04:28.519 --> 01:04:30.719
da for one hundred bucks and I
love that. Sid then points out to

941
01:04:30.840 --> 01:04:33.800
Jack that's that's twice the money I
paid you to ruin his career in the

942
01:04:33.840 --> 01:04:39.559
first place. One hundred bucks,
by the way, back in nineteen fifty

943
01:04:39.599 --> 01:04:43.679
three is about twelve hundred dollars,
So you know, okay, not bad.

944
01:04:44.239 --> 01:04:45.760
Not bad, well, bad for
what's about to happen to him,

945
01:04:45.760 --> 01:04:48.719
but otherwise, right, yeah,
not bad for a blowjob. You know.

946
01:04:49.119 --> 01:04:53.480
Jack is now less excited about the
whole plot because he's starting to feel

947
01:04:53.480 --> 01:04:58.239
guilty over the way he's fucking ruined
this poor guy's life, Matt's life,

948
01:04:58.280 --> 01:05:01.159
because I go shit at Sid's like, hey, Matt, come over here

949
01:05:01.400 --> 01:05:04.119
meet my friend Jack, and Jack's
like, please don't bring him over here.

950
01:05:04.320 --> 01:05:06.360
Please don't. Oh, hi,
nice to meet you, Like he's

951
01:05:06.760 --> 01:05:12.239
of course, Sid is such an
asshole. I do love Sid having fun.

952
01:05:12.400 --> 01:05:15.599
He's having a good time. He's
forcing the two of them to chit

953
01:05:15.679 --> 01:05:18.440
chat, right, so Sid steps
away. Matt's like, have we met

954
01:05:18.519 --> 01:05:21.960
before? And Jack's like, yeah, yeah, we've met before, you

955
01:05:23.159 --> 01:05:26.880
just don't remember. And Matt still
can't place him as the cop who arrested

956
01:05:26.960 --> 01:05:29.159
him, so he's like, oh, is it a Flora de Lee party?

957
01:05:29.639 --> 01:05:33.239
This perks up Jack's ears and he's
like, yeah, Flora de Lee,

958
01:05:33.519 --> 01:05:38.679
whatever you desire. Matt's really dumb, so he doesn't realize he's being

959
01:05:38.719 --> 01:05:43.079
pumped for information. He starts pumping
him for information and he hears the name

960
01:05:43.159 --> 01:05:46.719
Pierce Patchett and he learns what goes
on at his parties from Matt. Right,

961
01:05:46.800 --> 01:05:50.639
so we as an audience already know. But Matt is now telling Jack

962
01:05:50.840 --> 01:05:57.440
like, last prostitution ring women and
men presumably who are meant to look like

963
01:05:57.559 --> 01:06:01.440
movie stars. It's kind of interesting
they don't have any men available, Like

964
01:06:01.719 --> 01:06:03.920
I want, I wonder, I
just wonder why. I'm not trying to

965
01:06:04.039 --> 01:06:06.599
make a thing about it, but
but like it seems like why wouldn't he

966
01:06:06.639 --> 01:06:11.280
have male prostitutes also working for him
that like there was an audience for it,

967
01:06:11.360 --> 01:06:14.360
I'm sure Hollywood. For goodness,
I wonder if that would have been

968
01:06:14.360 --> 01:06:16.320
considered like scandalous in ninety seven,
so they didn't go there. Maybe,

969
01:06:16.400 --> 01:06:20.159
But also I think the character of
Pierce Patchett wouldn't have had both, Like

970
01:06:20.320 --> 01:06:24.880
the client tele that went to him
would not have gone to him if he

971
01:06:24.960 --> 01:06:27.440
had, if he had done both, if he had swishes, if he

972
01:06:27.480 --> 01:06:30.360
had if he had ac douces and
swishes, they didn't want a C doucis.

973
01:06:30.800 --> 01:06:33.519
That's my guess is that it would
have been historically inaccurate, like like

974
01:06:34.000 --> 01:06:40.360
those were two separate rings, fair
enough, Sid returns and Matt's like,

975
01:06:40.440 --> 01:06:42.039
I don't know if I should go
through with this. I don't know.

976
01:06:42.159 --> 01:06:45.519
He's like looking at Ron Rifkin,
Poor Ron Rifkin. He's like, I

977
01:06:45.599 --> 01:06:48.480
don't know about this. This seems
like a bad This seems like it's gonna

978
01:06:48.480 --> 01:06:51.840
be bad for my career. What
if it gets out blah blah blah.

979
01:06:53.239 --> 01:06:55.320
And Sid's like, no, no, don't worry about it, no one

980
01:06:55.360 --> 01:06:58.320
will ever know you're doing this.
You're gonna help me out with the with

981
01:06:58.440 --> 01:07:01.280
the with the DA and also works
on Badge of honor he can get you

982
01:07:01.360 --> 01:07:05.239
apart on the show, and Jack, like very reluctantly, is like,

983
01:07:05.360 --> 01:07:08.880
yeah, I can help you get
a part on the show. And Thatt's

984
01:07:08.960 --> 01:07:11.559
like okay, and he heads off
yeah, and Jack is like, I

985
01:07:11.639 --> 01:07:14.599
don't I don't like any of this. I hate everything that just happened.

986
01:07:15.119 --> 01:07:17.280
Yep. That night, Jack's conscience
gets the better of him. His newly

987
01:07:17.360 --> 01:07:23.039
awakened conscience is saying, this is
bad, this is bad. You were

988
01:07:23.320 --> 01:07:27.559
wrong to do that. So he
heads to the motel early to warn Matt

989
01:07:27.840 --> 01:07:30.320
of the impending situation, like,
you need to get out of here.

990
01:07:30.320 --> 01:07:32.760
He knocks on the door, there's
no answer. He walks in, and

991
01:07:32.880 --> 01:07:36.599
he finds Matt dead on the floor
with his throat slit. No sign of

992
01:07:36.639 --> 01:07:41.920
the DA right row. Meanwhile,
we cut to Ed walking Inez out of

993
01:07:41.960 --> 01:07:45.039
the hospital. Ines is the woman
who had been kidnapped and gang raped by

994
01:07:45.119 --> 01:07:50.639
the now dead night Owl suspects.
She thanks him for killing the men who

995
01:07:50.719 --> 01:07:55.400
kidnapped and raped her, and she
admits she actually doesn't remember the time that

996
01:07:55.519 --> 01:07:58.360
the three men left the night of
the night Owl murders. She just knew

997
01:07:58.360 --> 01:08:00.199
that the only way for her to
get any justice was to make sure that

998
01:08:00.320 --> 01:08:04.119
society thought they had killed white people
and not just raped a Mexican woman.

999
01:08:04.400 --> 01:08:09.239
Apparently, in the book this story, like this character is a much bigger

1000
01:08:09.320 --> 01:08:14.159
role and the woman that ed and
Bud compeedo is actually her, not Lynn

1001
01:08:14.599 --> 01:08:17.479
in the book, which is I
don't know what that does. I don't

1002
01:08:17.600 --> 01:08:21.640
know that. I like that.
Yeah, that the power dynamics seem even

1003
01:08:21.720 --> 01:08:27.359
more often they already are. Well, there's no power dynamic issue for me

1004
01:08:27.520 --> 01:08:30.359
with Lynn at all. It's not
a power thing. Yeah, you're right.

1005
01:08:30.680 --> 01:08:32.359
Yeah, I think Lynn has almost
the upper hand over you. I

1006
01:08:32.439 --> 01:08:35.000
know, Bud's a cop, and
well she has a functioning brain cell,

1007
01:08:35.079 --> 01:08:39.279
so that's a bit. She's specically
a criminal, so she does have that

1008
01:08:39.439 --> 01:08:43.560
on her. But like it's I
never worry that Lynn is going to get

1009
01:08:44.039 --> 01:08:47.239
in trouble for being a sex worker. She has way too many friends in

1010
01:08:47.319 --> 01:08:50.399
high places for her to even be
like thinking about that. Yeah, that's

1011
01:08:50.439 --> 01:08:54.600
fair, I would say. I
think my concern with Lynn in the movies,

1012
01:08:54.800 --> 01:08:58.119
I think the character is so little
to the character I kept expecting,

1013
01:08:58.399 --> 01:09:00.479
and I knew she had won a
supporting actress Oscar. Even with the knowledge

1014
01:09:00.520 --> 01:09:04.760
of what the story behind it,
I kept expecting the big scene I was

1015
01:09:04.840 --> 01:09:09.359
waiting for, like the big scene
where something is revealed, where something happens

1016
01:09:09.479 --> 01:09:12.119
to her, and and I think
in my head, like that could that

1017
01:09:12.199 --> 01:09:15.560
could have been a sexual assault scene
like that, like in the nineties,

1018
01:09:15.600 --> 01:09:18.199
that could have been counted as an
incredibly brave thing. I'm not saying it's

1019
01:09:18.239 --> 01:09:20.119
good. I'm not saying I wanted
it. I'm just saying that, like

1020
01:09:20.840 --> 01:09:24.840
I think I was worried about Lynn
in the way that you weren't, because

1021
01:09:24.880 --> 01:09:29.439
I was waiting for something to happen
both to and with her. Yeah,

1022
01:09:29.520 --> 01:09:31.880
in the story where it doesn't really
I think, yeah, she's set up

1023
01:09:32.000 --> 01:09:35.439
to be like mysterious because we're not
supposed to know whose side she's on.

1024
01:09:35.600 --> 01:09:39.880
I think, yeah, But then
they drop that so fast they do,

1025
01:09:40.079 --> 01:09:43.560
Yeah, they don't, but they
don't drop the mysterious part, like like

1026
01:09:44.000 --> 01:09:47.880
give her something to do her,
have her gather information for the cops.

1027
01:09:48.720 --> 01:09:53.880
She does do something, but it's
barely something, but she but it's dumb,

1028
01:09:54.079 --> 01:09:57.159
and she like she shouldn't have done
it, Like she makes a big,

1029
01:09:57.359 --> 01:09:59.520
huge mistake at some point anyway,
we'll get to that. We'll get

1030
01:09:59.560 --> 01:10:01.359
to that. Okay, speaking of
which, at this point, we get

1031
01:10:01.479 --> 01:10:04.760
like a little bit of a bud
In Linn moment in the movie. They

1032
01:10:04.840 --> 01:10:09.600
go on dates, they have sex. He's perfectly happy that all those other

1033
01:10:09.680 --> 01:10:13.680
guys just get Veronica Lake, he
gets Lynn and Margaret Bracken. Very good

1034
01:10:13.760 --> 01:10:16.920
line, I'll admit that's a good
line. That's very sweet. They're laying

1035
01:10:17.039 --> 01:10:24.520
in bed. They've probably been on
like five dates. Maybe they've probably known

1036
01:10:24.560 --> 01:10:27.840
each other like two, like not
even a week. Actually, if you

1037
01:10:27.880 --> 01:10:30.560
really think about the time, not
entirely clear on the timeline, because time

1038
01:10:30.680 --> 01:10:34.319
definitely does pass. So I was
actually thinking about that. It could be

1039
01:10:34.399 --> 01:10:38.039
a week. It could also be
like two months. I don't know,

1040
01:10:38.439 --> 01:10:44.520
Like time passes between when they murder
the night Owl suspects and then like the

1041
01:10:44.600 --> 01:10:48.079
Metal of Valor happens and Jack goes
back on Badge of Honor and like things

1042
01:10:48.159 --> 01:10:50.840
do get along. You're right,
things do get moving a little bit.

1043
01:10:51.039 --> 01:10:55.119
So let's say they've known each other
a month. Then I think that's fair.

1044
01:10:55.239 --> 01:10:57.159
I think that's fair. Let's say
they've known each other a month.

1045
01:10:57.279 --> 01:10:59.840
Okay, you know what in that
case, I'm a little more okay,

1046
01:11:00.079 --> 01:11:02.279
what's about to happen. But what's
about to happen is so fucking weird.

1047
01:11:02.840 --> 01:11:06.359
Okay, they go in a couple
of dates. He is so crapy.

1048
01:11:06.399 --> 01:11:10.359
He just stares at her while they're
at the movies. She's like laughing at

1049
01:11:10.399 --> 01:11:14.000
the screen, and she like throws
a little popcorn in his face, like

1050
01:11:14.239 --> 01:11:16.800
to be playful, but really to
be like, stop staring at me,

1051
01:11:17.119 --> 01:11:21.239
fucking weirdo. The first time she
has diarrhea, he is gonna completely fall

1052
01:11:21.279 --> 01:11:25.039
out of love with her. He
has no idea that she's a real person.

1053
01:11:25.640 --> 01:11:29.159
Okay, so here's what happens.
Now, they're gonna recut to them

1054
01:11:29.239 --> 01:11:33.239
laying in bed, postcoital afterglow love. It's in the air. She tells

1055
01:11:33.279 --> 01:11:36.800
him she's from a little small town
in Arizona called Brisbee, and her dream

1056
01:11:36.880 --> 01:11:41.680
is to earn enough money while she's
in Los Angeles to then go back home

1057
01:11:41.800 --> 01:11:45.159
and open a a dress shop for
the girls at Brisbee. That's a little

1058
01:11:45.199 --> 01:11:49.319
bit about me, that's my backstory, So tell me a little bit about

1059
01:11:49.359 --> 01:11:56.399
you. And then he immediately launches
into this story about watching his father beat

1060
01:11:56.479 --> 01:12:00.680
his mother to death with a tire
iron after tying Bud to the radiator,

1061
01:12:00.159 --> 01:12:03.800
and how he was there alone with
his dead body, with his mother's dead

1062
01:12:03.880 --> 01:12:14.680
body for days until a truant officer
finally found them, and Lynn's like,

1063
01:12:15.840 --> 01:12:20.960
okay. She's like, I come
from a small town. It's very cute

1064
01:12:21.039 --> 01:12:24.520
and quaint, and I hope to
go back there one day. Hey,

1065
01:12:24.560 --> 01:12:28.239
that's an interesting scar on your shoulder. How did you get that my father

1066
01:12:28.399 --> 01:12:31.119
beat my mother to death In the
time, I'm like, oh my god,

1067
01:12:35.199 --> 01:12:41.279
her vagina just shut down. Just
no, no, we're not doing

1068
01:12:41.319 --> 01:12:45.079
this ever again. You are way
too intense. Look, I get it.

1069
01:12:45.159 --> 01:12:46.720
That's horrible. That's a terrible traumatic
thing that happened to you, and

1070
01:12:46.760 --> 01:12:54.079
I'm very very sorry, But pick
your moment, dude. He goes on

1071
01:12:54.239 --> 01:12:58.199
to say he just wants to be
detective and solve the night Night Owl murders.

1072
01:12:58.279 --> 01:13:00.159
He's He's like, I'm just not
small enough, and I wish I

1073
01:13:00.239 --> 01:13:02.800
was smart enough to be a detective. And I wish I was smart enough

1074
01:13:02.840 --> 01:13:05.880
to be like like ex Ley.
And she's like, you are smart.

1075
01:13:06.159 --> 01:13:11.600
You found me, you found Patchet, you figured that out. You're very

1076
01:13:12.279 --> 01:13:15.560
very smart, Bud, I mean, standing ovation for remembering where you met

1077
01:13:15.640 --> 01:13:19.920
someone and going to a liquor store
and demanding the address. Whoa I mean,

1078
01:13:20.119 --> 01:13:23.359
did you look her up? Look
her up in the in the yellow

1079
01:13:23.439 --> 01:13:27.520
Pages? Like who she knows really
smart people, I think, right,

1080
01:13:27.680 --> 01:13:31.680
Like she knows she's she's involved in, like the upper echelon of like Los

1081
01:13:31.680 --> 01:13:34.000
Angeles. Why she's an idiot too? What if she was, like,

1082
01:13:34.079 --> 01:13:38.039
Bud, have you gone to Nick
at the liquor store and asked him,

1083
01:13:38.039 --> 01:13:41.600
Hey, do you have anyone whose
name is hey? I murdered those six

1084
01:13:41.640 --> 01:13:47.680
people at the night Owl Halient?
That would be amazing if she was also

1085
01:13:47.720 --> 01:13:54.000
a fucking idiot. And the movie
made it very clear she's just like she

1086
01:13:54.119 --> 01:13:58.600
has no idea what she's doing.
Like these two cannot procreate their their children

1087
01:13:58.600 --> 01:14:02.159
would be too stupid, all right? So Bud takes this pep talk and

1088
01:14:02.239 --> 01:14:05.199
he heads down to the evidence locker
to go over the night Owl case again.

1089
01:14:05.279 --> 01:14:10.319
He looks at some photos and realizes
that Stensland, his former partner,

1090
01:14:10.880 --> 01:14:15.439
was sitting with Susan Lefferts at the
diner, but he remembers that Stensland specifically

1091
01:14:15.439 --> 01:14:18.159
said he didn't know her when they
met at the liquor store in the beginning.

1092
01:14:18.720 --> 01:14:21.680
Interesting, dun, dun, dun, what was we made a clue

1093
01:14:21.760 --> 01:14:26.439
sound last week? But I can't
remember. For Colombo something like that.

1094
01:14:27.199 --> 01:14:30.920
He heads to missus Leffert's house.
I have to say the actress playing missus

1095
01:14:30.000 --> 01:14:34.920
Lefferts, I don't I don't know
her name. A plus she is giving

1096
01:14:35.560 --> 01:14:41.119
fucking plus. She read the breakdown. It was like an anxiety written older

1097
01:14:41.199 --> 01:14:44.920
woman with a with it, with
it, with a rapidly fraying grip on

1098
01:14:45.039 --> 01:14:49.000
reality, and she was like,
got it, got it. Uh.

1099
01:14:49.159 --> 01:14:54.960
So while he's there, he manages
to get missus Lefferts to id Stensland as

1100
01:14:55.039 --> 01:14:58.039
Susan's boyfriend, the one that she
had said in the morgue that she didn't

1101
01:14:58.199 --> 01:15:00.319
like, And then missus Leffert's to
talking about like, oh, the neighbor

1102
01:15:00.439 --> 01:15:03.560
told me about this thing that she
saw with Susan and her boyfriend and another

1103
01:15:03.680 --> 01:15:06.520
man at the house. They got
into a fight and they kept going under

1104
01:15:06.560 --> 01:15:10.600
the house, and Bud's like looking
around and he sees, why is there

1105
01:15:10.640 --> 01:15:14.000
a why is there like a wet
towel against that door, and he goes

1106
01:15:14.039 --> 01:15:15.840
to open it and she goes,
oh, don't go in there. I

1107
01:15:15.880 --> 01:15:18.279
think a rat died in the wall. And he opens it and it stinks,

1108
01:15:18.439 --> 01:15:21.319
and he goes out, and he
goes down into the basement under the

1109
01:15:21.399 --> 01:15:28.039
house, and he eventually discovers the
the decaying corpse of Leland Meeks, which

1110
01:15:28.079 --> 01:15:31.720
he who identifies from the guy's wallet
stashed in the basement. He leaves and

1111
01:15:31.840 --> 01:15:36.000
he takes the wallet with him.
Why would Susan be dating Stensland? I

1112
01:15:36.079 --> 01:15:42.039
mean, maybe maybe she needed protection
or something. I don't know, Like

1113
01:15:43.279 --> 01:15:48.039
Stensland, I can't tell you enough
is a gross middle aged cop. Yeah,

1114
01:15:48.199 --> 01:15:56.600
and Susan was a young, beautiful
sort of vaguely looks like Rita Hayworth

1115
01:15:56.680 --> 01:16:00.760
adjacent high class sex worker. Here's
a little Rita Hayworth in there. What

1116
01:16:01.000 --> 01:16:03.960
if you have ed Exley's eyesight and
you take off your glasses. She's a

1117
01:16:04.039 --> 01:16:10.359
dead ringer for Rita Hayworth. He's
not like rich, like you know,

1118
01:16:10.560 --> 01:16:13.479
like it's that transactional in that way. So what the fuck? Why is

1119
01:16:13.560 --> 01:16:15.479
she with you? Yeah? I
don't know because I didn't think about it,

1120
01:16:15.479 --> 01:16:17.319
because I think in my head,
but you're right, like in my

1121
01:16:17.479 --> 01:16:21.079
head, it was some kind of
business transactional thing like this, like she

1122
01:16:21.319 --> 01:16:26.279
was this is gross. She was
his prize for some deed he did in

1123
01:16:26.399 --> 01:16:29.840
this in this crime ring or something. But but the movie doesn't actually say

1124
01:16:29.880 --> 01:16:31.399
that. I think in my head
I was just thinking it. You're right.

1125
01:16:31.439 --> 01:16:34.920
They imply that, like she's his
girlfriend or something. Yes, she

1126
01:16:35.119 --> 01:16:39.880
brought him to her mother's house at
some point, like this was a real

1127
01:16:39.960 --> 01:16:44.680
relationship, and I'm like, but
how fair? Question weird? That is

1128
01:16:44.760 --> 01:16:46.840
the true mystery of this film.
I would love to see the meet cute

1129
01:16:47.359 --> 01:16:54.840
between gross like fifty five year old
Distensland and twenty year old Susan Leppards,

1130
01:16:54.840 --> 01:16:58.800
where she's like, oh, hello, yeah, you look like you sweat

1131
01:16:58.960 --> 01:17:04.239
gin, that's my type. I'm
turned on by a light aroma of tequila

1132
01:17:04.359 --> 01:17:09.079
leaking through your pores. Don't tell
me you're poor. Ooh do you have

1133
01:17:09.159 --> 01:17:12.119
anger management issues? To stop it? I'm wet. Stop it. Oh

1134
01:17:12.279 --> 01:17:15.359
god, oh my god. Terrible
relationship with my father? Why do you

1135
01:17:15.479 --> 01:17:21.000
ask Meanwhile, Ed starts to follow
the same breadcrumbs as Bud, and he

1136
01:17:21.119 --> 01:17:27.399
discovers meets his corpse as well,
which implies that Bud found the corpse and

1137
01:17:27.520 --> 01:17:31.000
fucking left it under this woman's house. He sure did and didn't fucking do

1138
01:17:31.159 --> 01:17:34.359
anything about it, didn't call it
in. He then heads over to Jack,

1139
01:17:34.479 --> 01:17:38.199
the only other cop for some reason
he feels he can sort of trust

1140
01:17:38.680 --> 01:17:42.439
and helps and asks for his help
entailing Bud and getting to the bottom of

1141
01:17:42.520 --> 01:17:45.279
the night hour murders. Jack is
skeptical, He's like, why would you

1142
01:17:45.319 --> 01:17:46.960
want to reopen this case? It
made your whole career, it made you

1143
01:17:47.000 --> 01:17:50.680
a fucking lieutenant detective or whatever,
like, just leave it alone. And

1144
01:17:50.960 --> 01:17:55.960
Ed tells him the story of the
man who murdered his father and got away

1145
01:17:56.000 --> 01:18:00.720
with it, a man he has
named Rollo Tomasi. Excellent name. Yeah,

1146
01:18:00.039 --> 01:18:05.079
solid sounds like a delicious Italian meal, doesn't it. Oh, I

1147
01:18:05.199 --> 01:18:09.880
had the Rolo Tomasi lit dusting a
parmesan on top. I know, I

1148
01:18:09.960 --> 01:18:13.199
know veal is not is not is
not good right now we're not eating veal,

1149
01:18:13.239 --> 01:18:16.760
But trust me, get the veal. It's fucking amazing. So turns

1150
01:18:16.800 --> 01:18:19.760
out his father, when he was
a cop, just off duty, I

1151
01:18:19.800 --> 01:18:25.840
guess, pursued a purse snatcher who
end up shooting him dead. Random thing.

1152
01:18:25.960 --> 01:18:28.039
The guy was never caught, No
one even knows who he is,

1153
01:18:28.439 --> 01:18:31.079
So Ed made up the name Rolo
TOMASI to give the guy some personality,

1154
01:18:31.479 --> 01:18:35.840
like a name to this faithless criminal. He's the reason ed wanted to become

1155
01:18:35.880 --> 01:18:40.000
a cop because he wanted to get
justice and get the guy who thinks he

1156
01:18:40.039 --> 01:18:42.640
can get away with it. He
feels like he's lost sight of that.

1157
01:18:42.760 --> 01:18:45.800
He's like, I'm like, y
think you think you murdered a bunch of

1158
01:18:45.920 --> 01:18:49.640
people. You lost sight of that, and you also lost your sight because

1159
01:18:49.640 --> 01:18:54.279
you're not wearing your glasses and you're
don't have good eyesight. Put him clear

1160
01:18:54.399 --> 01:18:58.880
glasses on ed. He asked Jack
why he became a cop, and Jack

1161
01:18:59.159 --> 01:19:01.880
takes a minute and like admits,
Jesus Christ, I don't remember. Like,

1162
01:19:02.119 --> 01:19:05.159
yeah, I have no idea why
I became a cop. Jack says,

1163
01:19:05.199 --> 01:19:08.319
Okay, I tell you what.
I'll help you with your case if

1164
01:19:08.359 --> 01:19:10.920
you help me with mine. I
need to solve the murder of Matt Reynolds.

1165
01:19:11.279 --> 01:19:14.119
Quid pro quo, and he's like
done deal. Did you notice what

1166
01:19:14.239 --> 01:19:16.600
he called it? No, I
know everyone's gonna say it's another Hollywood homo

1167
01:19:16.760 --> 01:19:21.239
side. Oh I did hear that? I did hear that someone's been watching

1168
01:19:21.319 --> 01:19:26.600
Sunset Boulevard? Okay, all right, so Jack, at Ed's request,

1169
01:19:26.760 --> 01:19:31.039
tells Bud Bud heads to meet with
Johnny Stompanado, the former bodyguard of Mickey

1170
01:19:31.119 --> 01:19:35.159
Cohen, who is a real person. Johnny initially refuses to talk, but

1171
01:19:35.279 --> 01:19:40.439
Bud gets him literally by the balls, and eventually Johnny coughs up that Meeks

1172
01:19:40.479 --> 01:19:45.279
allegedly had a line on a large
supply of heroin, and Bud wonders how

1173
01:19:45.319 --> 01:19:48.520
a low player like Meeks could possibly
have gotten such a supply, and then

1174
01:19:48.600 --> 01:19:53.600
he heads to Lynn's just to unwind, just to like bounce some ideas off

1175
01:19:53.640 --> 01:19:56.680
of her, see what she's thinking
about the case, try to suss out

1176
01:19:56.760 --> 01:19:59.920
some more stuff. And Jack and
Ed's spy on the two of them there,

1177
01:20:00.199 --> 01:20:02.119
right, So now Jack and at
are fully spying on Bud. Yeah,

1178
01:20:02.279 --> 01:20:04.960
there's a there's a really funny moment
here. Bud and Lynn start to

1179
01:20:05.039 --> 01:20:08.600
fuck on her couch. In fact, goes, well, maybe he's not

1180
01:20:08.640 --> 01:20:15.239
as stupid as we thought he was. So just to be clear, Meeks

1181
01:20:15.439 --> 01:20:18.039
is Leland, the cop, the
ex cop who works for Patchett at the

1182
01:20:18.119 --> 01:20:21.279
from the very beginning of the movie. Yes, the driver was in was

1183
01:20:21.399 --> 01:20:25.520
the driver in the car with Susan
Lefferts. So that's the guy that people

1184
01:20:25.560 --> 01:20:29.000
are saying had a big line of
heroin that he was trying to offload.

1185
01:20:29.279 --> 01:20:31.199
And he's done. Now the corpse
that's under missus Lefferd's house, right,

1186
01:20:31.239 --> 01:20:35.039
that that's the story of Leland Meeks. Yeah, well done, Leland served

1187
01:20:35.079 --> 01:20:39.800
your point. Nicely done. So
Jack and Ed head to Pierce Patchett's which

1188
01:20:39.840 --> 01:20:43.039
always makes me happy. I'm like, yeah, more Pierce Patchett. Seriously,

1189
01:20:43.479 --> 01:20:45.880
I genuinely my favorite performance in the
movie. I wanted more Pierce Patchett

1190
01:20:45.880 --> 01:20:50.640
all the time. Not my favorite
performance, but but maybe my favorite character.

1191
01:20:53.399 --> 01:20:59.239
Yeah. With questions about floor de
Lee, which is now connected to

1192
01:20:59.319 --> 01:21:01.960
both cases, to both the Linn
case and the Matt case, right,

1193
01:21:02.199 --> 01:21:05.920
but he stonewalls then doesn't give up
any information. They then split up the

1194
01:21:05.960 --> 01:21:10.840
two cops. Jack heads to the
coroner who has the idea on Meeks his

1195
01:21:10.920 --> 01:21:15.159
body, and Ed heads to Linz
in the hopes of getting her to confess

1196
01:21:15.359 --> 01:21:19.600
that Patchett is setting her up with
Bud for some nefarious reason. They're like,

1197
01:21:19.720 --> 01:21:24.239
well, obviously, yeah, they're
with us. They're like, but

1198
01:21:24.640 --> 01:21:27.640
but why is she with you?
Why is she fucking him? Yeah?

1199
01:21:28.560 --> 01:21:30.720
This idiot definitely doesn't know this is
a high class prostitute. He thinks he

1200
01:21:30.840 --> 01:21:34.840
just hit the gold mine. They're
like, well, obviously this is a

1201
01:21:34.880 --> 01:21:39.039
setup, because there's no way a
woman like that. Whatever, fuck Bud,

1202
01:21:39.239 --> 01:21:43.720
and I'm like, right, I
hear you, girl. As they

1203
01:21:43.840 --> 01:21:46.560
leave, we see Patchett place a
call to Sid to Danny DeVito at Hush

1204
01:21:46.640 --> 01:21:51.159
Hush. Ed arrives at Lin's.
He's generally an arrogant preck, very big

1205
01:21:51.239 --> 01:21:55.600
for his breeches. He demands to
know why she's banging Bud, and she

1206
01:21:55.720 --> 01:21:59.399
accuses Ed of being scared of Bud
because he doesn't play by the same rules

1207
01:21:59.439 --> 01:22:01.439
of politics. Says, Ed does, look, I'm scared of Bud too,

1208
01:22:01.479 --> 01:22:03.880
but it's because he's a violent rage
monster, not because I think he's

1209
01:22:03.880 --> 01:22:08.319
gonna outsmart me, not because he's
so true to himself that like, he

1210
01:22:08.359 --> 01:22:12.920
doesn't play your dirty politics. Then
she steps up really close to Ed and

1211
01:22:13.039 --> 01:22:15.000
she says, I see Bud because
I want to, and he's a good

1212
01:22:15.119 --> 01:22:19.119
man. And they kiss and they
head right to the bone zone and outside

1213
01:22:19.159 --> 01:22:24.520
we see Sid, Hudgens Standy DeVito
snapping photos of them. Yeah. Meanwhile,

1214
01:22:25.439 --> 01:22:29.359
Jack gets the id he finds out
that the corpse under the Leffart's house

1215
01:22:29.439 --> 01:22:32.039
was Leland Meeks. He asks to
see Meek's arrest records from when he was

1216
01:22:32.079 --> 01:22:35.960
on the force, and then we
see him arriving at Dudley's house. Dudley

1217
01:22:36.039 --> 01:22:41.079
is the captain, Captain Dudley Smith, who's definitely not behind all of this.

1218
01:22:41.880 --> 01:22:44.600
He's definitely not the big bat of
the movie. He is a police

1219
01:22:44.640 --> 01:22:46.720
captain. We must trust that.
If we can't trust Irish cops, who

1220
01:22:46.800 --> 01:22:50.880
can we trust? I ask you, where can we turn? So he

1221
01:22:51.119 --> 01:22:56.119
asks Dudley if he remembers anything from
a case about a dozen years prior that

1222
01:22:56.199 --> 01:23:00.760
he just discovered when Meeks and Stensland
we're trying to take patches down for blackmail.

1223
01:23:01.800 --> 01:23:03.840
Smith seems a little confused. He's
like, oh, what are you

1224
01:23:04.239 --> 01:23:06.800
trying to be a knight in shining
armor now? You don't have any practice

1225
01:23:06.800 --> 01:23:10.760
at that And Jack says, well, you know, I'm just I'm working

1226
01:23:10.840 --> 01:23:13.760
this case with Ed and blah blah
blah. And Smith says, well,

1227
01:23:14.000 --> 01:23:16.159
what does Ed think about all of
it? And Jack admits he hasn't told

1228
01:23:16.199 --> 01:23:23.159
him yet, and Smith turns around
and he shoots him in the chest what

1229
01:23:24.079 --> 01:23:27.039
he was a big bad the whole
time. Do you mean to tell me

1230
01:23:27.479 --> 01:23:31.239
that the grizzled old police veteran in
this movie about police corruption who was introduced

1231
01:23:31.479 --> 01:23:35.720
asking a young cop who is willing
to plant evidence and shoot a suspect is

1232
01:23:35.760 --> 01:23:42.920
the big bad of this movie.
So Jack lies there dying, and Dudley

1233
01:23:43.039 --> 01:23:45.279
leans down and he asks Jack,
do they have any valediction? Boyle?

1234
01:23:45.520 --> 01:23:49.399
He's Irish in this moment he gets
so irish. This is the most Irish

1235
01:23:49.479 --> 01:23:54.119
he gets the whole movie. He
basically answers the door, playing a liar

1236
01:23:54.560 --> 01:24:00.199
and being like, hey, come
into my house, like my jama Eccon's

1237
01:24:00.239 --> 01:24:03.359
definitely Jamaican. He basically answers the
door in a Leprechaun costume with a pot

1238
01:24:03.399 --> 01:24:10.279
of gold. He's reading James Joyce
by the fire, drinking a guinness.

1239
01:24:10.760 --> 01:24:19.439
Yeah. He's like, no woman, no cry, hey play with my

1240
01:24:19.560 --> 01:24:24.640
steel drums. Eh Now, I
don't even know what I'm doing? Would

1241
01:24:24.680 --> 01:24:30.000
I try to do? It?
Was Italian, vaguely Italian. So if

1242
01:24:30.039 --> 01:24:32.079
you want me to do a Jamaican
accent, ask me to do an Irish

1243
01:24:32.600 --> 01:24:34.840
got it? Got it? We're
gonna have to draw a diagram. Of

1244
01:24:34.920 --> 01:24:47.640
this, eh, Boio, don't
di steal my lucky charms. So Dudley

1245
01:24:47.760 --> 01:24:51.920
is like, do you have any
valediction, boyo? And Jack just chokes

1246
01:24:51.960 --> 01:24:58.439
out Rollo Tamasi and dies. Right, So this was a big twist in

1247
01:24:58.520 --> 01:25:02.159
ninety seven that unfortunately does it anymore
Because Russell Crowe is now the biggest name

1248
01:25:02.199 --> 01:25:06.279
in the cast. Guy Pierce is
also a legitimate star. He's not as

1249
01:25:06.279 --> 01:25:10.640
big as Russell Crowe, but a
legitimate movie star. And Kevin Spacey has

1250
01:25:10.720 --> 01:25:15.239
fallen out of favor, right,
So in ninety seven he was the name

1251
01:25:15.560 --> 01:25:17.920
and he dies with like a half
an hour left in the movie. Yeah,

1252
01:25:18.359 --> 01:25:21.479
a legitimate twist that no longer lands, I don't think so. Smith

1253
01:25:21.520 --> 01:25:26.039
addresses the precinct the next day.
He reports that Jack's body was found in

1254
01:25:26.119 --> 01:25:30.039
Echo Park, but that it was
probably killed somewhere else and then dragged to

1255
01:25:30.119 --> 01:25:33.560
the park. Don't squhere. He's
like, we should have swift justice for

1256
01:25:33.680 --> 01:25:39.199
our comrade in arms, Jack,
Poor poor Jack who died. He then

1257
01:25:39.279 --> 01:25:43.439
pulls ed aside and asks if he's
ever heard Jack mention Rolo Tomasi. He's

1258
01:25:43.479 --> 01:25:46.119
following up on a lead from one
of Jack's associates, I heard this Italian

1259
01:25:46.159 --> 01:25:51.520
place downtown does a great Rollo Tomasi
your look. A lot of people will

1260
01:25:51.520 --> 01:25:56.119
tell you to do a shiatsu massage, but I prefer a Rolo Tomasi frankly,

1261
01:25:56.520 --> 01:26:00.520
totally. It's a combination of stretching
and stepping on you and then they'll

1262
01:26:00.560 --> 01:26:04.960
cover you in Marinara sauce. It's
it's so relaxing, and then then they

1263
01:26:05.039 --> 01:26:09.000
parm you, they par you.
It is just the most relaxing massage of

1264
01:26:09.039 --> 01:26:15.199
your life. Kudo's enormous. Kudos
to Guy Pierce in this moment, who

1265
01:26:15.319 --> 01:26:18.279
fucking nails the moment. I don't
know how he does it. It's like

1266
01:26:18.439 --> 01:26:23.079
a magic trick of acting. James
Cromwell goes, hey, have you heard

1267
01:26:23.119 --> 01:26:26.359
of Rolo Tomasi? And then the
camera is just just like close up on

1268
01:26:26.439 --> 01:26:32.119
Guy Pierce's face and without alerting the
other character that he knows everything, all

1269
01:26:32.199 --> 01:26:36.479
of a sudden, just because of
that word, his eyes widen just like

1270
01:26:36.600 --> 01:26:41.279
ever so slightly, and then like
he goes, no, one never heard

1271
01:26:41.279 --> 01:26:43.920
of Rolo Tomasi. It's yeah,
and Dudley's like, well, if you

1272
01:26:44.000 --> 01:26:46.640
hear anything, let me know.
But Guy Pierce plays the moment so well,

1273
01:26:48.079 --> 01:26:50.479
so now Ed is on the tail. He's like, Okay, so

1274
01:26:50.600 --> 01:26:55.880
obviously Dudley murdered Jack for some reason, and I have to figure that whole

1275
01:26:55.920 --> 01:26:59.760
shit out now. So he starts
to retrace Jack's moves from the night before.

1276
01:27:00.319 --> 01:27:03.319
Meanwhile, Dudley tells Bud he needs
him to interrogate someone who might know

1277
01:27:03.439 --> 01:27:06.840
who killed Jack, and they head
to the Victory Motel, which is this

1278
01:27:08.079 --> 01:27:12.359
off site, abandoned building where they
beat people up for information intimidation. That's

1279
01:27:12.359 --> 01:27:14.840
where we see them beating people up
earlier in the movie, like the criminals

1280
01:27:14.880 --> 01:27:17.560
that are coming from out of town. There we find Sid, Sid Hudgens

1281
01:27:17.600 --> 01:27:21.439
our old friend Danny DeVito, handcuffed
to a chair, and Dudley is questioning

1282
01:27:21.520 --> 01:27:27.279
him about Jack and Patchett. Sid
eagerly tells them that Patchett is rumored to

1283
01:27:27.399 --> 01:27:30.600
enjoy heroin and blackmail clients of his
call girls with photos of them. This

1284
01:27:30.760 --> 01:27:33.239
whole time, Bud is standing to
the side, getting more and more and

1285
01:27:33.359 --> 01:27:36.520
more worked up, right like if
he was Bruce Banner, he'd be getting

1286
01:27:36.520 --> 01:27:40.439
greener and greener and green. Hulk
is rising. Hulk is rising, Hulk

1287
01:27:40.520 --> 01:27:44.840
is rising. There's one point where
he walks over and he punches Danny DeVito

1288
01:27:44.920 --> 01:27:49.479
and I'm sorry the sfx on it, the sound effects is so objectively hilarious

1289
01:27:49.600 --> 01:27:55.720
because he punches down into like Danny
DeVito's stomach, thigh, crotch area,

1290
01:27:55.920 --> 01:27:59.840
and it sounds like he hit him
in the face with a mace like this,

1291
01:28:00.119 --> 01:28:02.720
the most over the top smacking.
I'm like, that's not what that

1292
01:28:02.800 --> 01:28:06.520
would sound like, like you punched
into a soft surface like this is like

1293
01:28:08.760 --> 01:28:12.920
what if he just broke Danny DeVito
in half, came apart like a Russian

1294
01:28:13.039 --> 01:28:17.640
nesting doll, just tore him apart
like a wishbone. So Sid goes on.

1295
01:28:17.760 --> 01:28:20.239
He says he's got a bunch of
photos in his car of some cop

1296
01:28:20.359 --> 01:28:25.680
fucking a slut named Lynn, and
that's all too much for bud Hulk smash.

1297
01:28:26.560 --> 01:28:29.760
He rips the chair out of the
baseboards where it's been screwed in.

1298
01:28:30.319 --> 01:28:33.840
I can't, like, why is
this movie making him a cartoon? I

1299
01:28:33.960 --> 01:28:39.680
know, it's like he's a bear
in a man's costume, and like the

1300
01:28:39.800 --> 01:28:44.880
bear doesn't understand how to modulate his
behavior to be a man, and so

1301
01:28:45.760 --> 01:28:51.159
strength it's so stupid it is he's
about to curb stomp Sid, but Dudley

1302
01:28:51.199 --> 01:28:55.239
manages to stop him, and then
he runs out to the car. He

1303
01:28:55.560 --> 01:28:59.039
being Bud, he thinks the photos
are of himself with Lynn. He thinks,

1304
01:28:59.079 --> 01:29:01.439
correct, that's he's about to find
and he rips open the back of

1305
01:29:01.479 --> 01:29:08.560
the car and he finds photos of
Lynn banging ed r Row. He drives

1306
01:29:08.640 --> 01:29:13.720
away in Dudley calmly murdered Sid,
as Sid protests they had a deal me

1307
01:29:14.000 --> 01:29:16.479
you and patch it. We had
a deal and we cut away. So

1308
01:29:16.720 --> 01:29:20.880
Bud, instead of going to ex
Ley, first goes to Lin's again.

1309
01:29:21.199 --> 01:29:25.520
I don't approve of any of what's
happening in this scene, obviously, but

1310
01:29:25.640 --> 01:29:29.000
these two actors are fucking nailing it. I have to say. It's now

1311
01:29:29.159 --> 01:29:31.399
raining, it's now pouring down rain. He stands outside the house. He

1312
01:29:31.479 --> 01:29:34.720
has that wounded animal look of like
you hurt me, you hurt me,

1313
01:29:35.159 --> 01:29:39.520
And she's doing her best to like, hey, why don't you come inside

1314
01:29:39.560 --> 01:29:42.359
the house and talk to me.
She looks super guilty. She knows what

1315
01:29:42.479 --> 01:29:45.960
she fucked up big time. I
know that she was. The movie's gonna

1316
01:29:45.960 --> 01:29:48.119
tell us later that she was forced
to do this bypatch it in some way,

1317
01:29:48.359 --> 01:29:55.479
like she thought somehow she was helping
Bud by bringing down Ed. Obviously,

1318
01:29:55.600 --> 01:29:59.319
it backfired spectacularly. She had no
idea that Bud would ever find out

1319
01:30:00.119 --> 01:30:02.680
right. So, but but is
like why and she goes, I thought

1320
01:30:02.720 --> 01:30:06.800
I was helping you, and he
just backhandser like ye again, with his

1321
01:30:08.079 --> 01:30:14.239
brutal, superhuman bare strength. He's
backhandser and she flies against the wall of

1322
01:30:14.319 --> 01:30:20.039
the porch like it's not funny,
but it is. It's just stupid.

1323
01:30:20.079 --> 01:30:25.199
It's so stupid. Hulk's feelings hurt, Hulk angry. Yeah, no,

1324
01:30:25.399 --> 01:30:29.079
I have to say, these two
actors are nailing the scene. You're not

1325
01:30:29.159 --> 01:30:31.800
wrong, it's it's good performances.
For me. What happens to me in

1326
01:30:31.880 --> 01:30:35.359
this is I'm like, he is
a violent rage monster who is going to

1327
01:30:35.439 --> 01:30:39.560
wind up beating her to death because
she puts a foot wrong like that,

1328
01:30:39.920 --> 01:30:42.239
And I know, like the movie
is like, no, he only defends

1329
01:30:42.279 --> 01:30:45.399
women. I'm like, until apparently
they make him angry. I don't know

1330
01:30:45.520 --> 01:30:46.760
that's where I go. I mean, look, none of it's good.

1331
01:30:46.880 --> 01:30:51.239
I'm not like that man cares about
you, Like, none of this is

1332
01:30:51.319 --> 01:30:57.760
good. I think the movie does
do a decent job of like saying,

1333
01:30:57.840 --> 01:31:00.880
look this is these are extraordinary circumstances
and he will sure probably not do this

1334
01:31:01.039 --> 01:31:05.640
again. But like, again,
this fucking terrible messaging, Like that's really

1335
01:31:05.680 --> 01:31:09.600
shitty and terrible messaging. And why
does she even like him to begin with?

1336
01:31:09.920 --> 01:31:11.920
Ye? So, like, why
is she staying with him after he

1337
01:31:12.039 --> 01:31:15.279
hits her? None of that makes
any sense. I will give the movie

1338
01:31:15.359 --> 01:31:18.800
the minuscule credit A. It's a
period piece, right, it takes place

1339
01:31:18.840 --> 01:31:23.920
in the fifties. Everything was trash. Yeah, I believe. I believe

1340
01:31:23.920 --> 01:31:26.000
that the actual name. That's the
name of the decade. It's the Trash

1341
01:31:26.039 --> 01:31:29.960
decade. It's it's the I liked. I like, everything is trash decade.

1342
01:31:30.640 --> 01:31:33.680
So, like, I understand why
she stays with him, And the

1343
01:31:33.800 --> 01:31:39.840
movie does a decent enough job for
me of like making me understand why he

1344
01:31:39.880 --> 01:31:43.600
would fly off the handle this badly. Oh sure, Yeah, So we

1345
01:31:43.760 --> 01:31:46.079
cut back to the station ed is
looking for Meeks's arrest records. He is

1346
01:31:46.119 --> 01:31:49.760
interrupted by but arriving and he is
in hulk smash mode. He's like,

1347
01:31:49.880 --> 01:31:53.640
good, but I'm glad you're here. I need to ask you, and

1348
01:31:53.720 --> 01:31:57.800
then before he can even finish,
Bud just like knocks him down. He

1349
01:31:57.920 --> 01:32:00.720
barely has time to like fight back. He grabs bud gun and like pistol,

1350
01:32:00.760 --> 01:32:03.399
whips him with it to get Bud
to get off of him. The

1351
01:32:03.520 --> 01:32:06.720
two of them get in a brawl
around the record room. They basically destroy

1352
01:32:06.840 --> 01:32:13.079
the place, and Ed manages to
convince Bud to stop hitting him for a

1353
01:32:13.159 --> 01:32:18.520
minute and think, who sent you
after me? Who killed Jack? Who

1354
01:32:19.039 --> 01:32:23.560
orchestrated all of this? Who's trying
to get you to kill me right now?

1355
01:32:23.640 --> 01:32:28.560
To shut us both up? It's
Dudley, and Bud stops punching in

1356
01:32:28.680 --> 01:32:32.439
for a moment to be like Hulk
calm now, and the two of them

1357
01:32:32.479 --> 01:32:36.359
start to compare notes and realize that
stens Lynne killed Meeks for the heroine,

1358
01:32:36.479 --> 01:32:41.520
and that Dudley framed the three black
men for the night Owl murders, and

1359
01:32:42.079 --> 01:32:45.600
this is all a giant conspiracy and
they have to start working together to solve

1360
01:32:45.640 --> 01:32:47.920
this crime or will never get solved. They decide their first stop should be

1361
01:32:48.039 --> 01:32:51.520
d A. Ellis Lowe, which
was Jack's angle on the case. That's

1362
01:32:51.600 --> 01:32:56.319
Ron Rifkin, the Swish, the
Swish, the Swish with the ac DC.

1363
01:32:56.680 --> 01:33:00.479
Do you think that Basketball stole Swish
from us? Nike? We need

1364
01:33:00.520 --> 01:33:04.800
to push back. Yeah. Yeah, Lowe is initially unimpressed with their request.

1365
01:33:05.000 --> 01:33:09.279
They walk in like two alpha dogs
on the yard. They're like,

1366
01:33:09.680 --> 01:33:12.720
we eat a tail and bug Smith
and Patchet blah blah blah Blah's like,

1367
01:33:12.760 --> 01:33:15.399
get the fuck out of my office. So you know what's gonna happen next,

1368
01:33:15.880 --> 01:33:18.840
Hulk smash, Hulk give little man
swirly Hulk hang little man out of

1369
01:33:18.880 --> 01:33:24.199
window until little man give up the
goods. This was a little funny actually,

1370
01:33:24.399 --> 01:33:29.680
because like the absolute certainty that Ron
Rifkin has that he is untouchable in

1371
01:33:29.760 --> 01:33:34.840
this scene, I tell until these
two fucking rogue cups go so rogue.

1372
01:33:35.439 --> 01:33:42.159
It's actually really funny that he runs
Ron Rifkin's head. I'm sure it's a

1373
01:33:42.199 --> 01:33:45.920
stunt man, not Ron Rifkin into
like a wooden balcony that like leaning out

1374
01:33:45.960 --> 01:33:50.000
of a three story window. Yeah, he rams that head into the balcony

1375
01:33:50.079 --> 01:33:53.880
so hard. I'm like, there's
no way that didn't hurt. I don't

1376
01:33:53.880 --> 01:33:56.520
know how they did that with a
stunt man. It looked like it really

1377
01:33:56.720 --> 01:33:59.920
hurt. It's made with like popsicle
sticks, yeah, something like that.

1378
01:34:00.319 --> 01:34:03.319
Yeah, they're hanging him out the
window for somehow low secretary doesn't hear him

1379
01:34:03.399 --> 01:34:06.600
screaming bloody murder inside of the office, But I guess we're not gonna worry

1380
01:34:06.640 --> 01:34:10.680
about that, weird right, or
like they didn't lock the door, We

1381
01:34:10.760 --> 01:34:14.399
don't hear her banging on the door, like I'm calling the police. Yeah.

1382
01:34:15.039 --> 01:34:17.600
Low admits that Dudley and Patchett set
him up because what they wanted to

1383
01:34:17.680 --> 01:34:20.960
do was make sure that when they
took over as heads of the Criminal Underworld,

1384
01:34:21.359 --> 01:34:25.560
the DA would not prosecute them.
That's why they wanted to blackmail him.

1385
01:34:26.199 --> 01:34:29.279
When they came in, Matt hurt
everything and they slit his throat.

1386
01:34:29.640 --> 01:34:32.920
Okay, So the sequence of events
in this movie is as follows. Mickey

1387
01:34:33.000 --> 01:34:38.039
Cohen goes down for tax evasion.
Smith and Patchett decide between the two of

1388
01:34:38.119 --> 01:34:39.920
them they are going to take his
place. They are going to be the

1389
01:34:40.000 --> 01:34:44.880
new kingpins of Los Angeles. Yeah, they go about murdering people. Leland

1390
01:34:44.960 --> 01:34:47.960
Meeks is on the team that murders
Cohen's drugs are he takes the heroine.

1391
01:34:48.359 --> 01:34:53.640
Stensland, who's out of a job, decides he wants the heroine, murders

1392
01:34:53.720 --> 01:34:58.479
Meeks. He's got the heroin now. Somehow Smith gets winned that Stensland has

1393
01:34:58.520 --> 01:35:01.239
the heroin. He sends two cronies
to murder him for some reason. They

1394
01:35:01.279 --> 01:35:05.039
decide to do it in a public
place and they take five innocent bystanders with

1395
01:35:05.159 --> 01:35:09.880
him. Yep, right, did
I miss anything? I think that's it.

1396
01:35:10.520 --> 01:35:12.640
Yeah, No, you're good.
That's okay, that's all good.

1397
01:35:12.720 --> 01:35:15.319
That's it. And now it's just
the rest of the movie is just Dudley

1398
01:35:15.640 --> 01:35:18.720
closing up loose ends, right,
that's why he kills Sid. Sid knows

1399
01:35:18.800 --> 01:35:23.640
too much at this point. So
Butt and Ed head to Patch. It's

1400
01:35:23.680 --> 01:35:26.159
because they're like, all right,
we go to we have to figure out

1401
01:35:26.159 --> 01:35:29.600
how to take Dudley down. We're
going to go through patch it. Unfortunately,

1402
01:35:29.720 --> 01:35:31.920
they find him sitting in his chair
with his wrist slit and a fake

1403
01:35:32.000 --> 01:35:35.880
suicide note. Whoops, two of
his fingers are broken. It's very clear

1404
01:35:36.000 --> 01:35:39.640
he's been has been held down.
This is not a this is not an

1405
01:35:39.640 --> 01:35:44.039
actual suicide. Right. They now
realize that Dudley is tying up loose ends

1406
01:35:44.159 --> 01:35:46.920
and that puts Lynn in the line
of fire. So they call the sheriff

1407
01:35:47.439 --> 01:35:50.760
of West Hollywood, who's closer to
her house, to like look after her,

1408
01:35:51.199 --> 01:35:54.680
and when they get there, they're
informed that they've got Lynn at the

1409
01:35:54.680 --> 01:35:58.439
West Hollywood police station for her safety
under an assumed name. At one point,

1410
01:35:58.520 --> 01:36:00.399
the sheriff says someone worked her over, though she looks like she's been

1411
01:36:00.439 --> 01:36:05.079
beaten up, and Ed looks to
Bud, and Bud just has this guilty

1412
01:36:05.119 --> 01:36:09.560
look on his face, like hulk, like a bear who was caught with

1413
01:36:09.640 --> 01:36:15.720
his hand in the It's like,
it's okay, who hasn't hit a woman

1414
01:36:15.840 --> 01:36:20.960
once in a while? Am I
right? So they go to the police

1415
01:36:21.000 --> 01:36:24.960
station to talk to Lynn. Bud's
like, you talk to her? Ed

1416
01:36:25.079 --> 01:36:27.760
goes in. There's a moment where
the two of them see each other with

1417
01:36:27.840 --> 01:36:30.000
their faces all bruised and beat because, like Ed looks like hell because of

1418
01:36:30.039 --> 01:36:33.239
his fight with Bud. Right Yeah. They kind of smile at each other

1419
01:36:33.560 --> 01:36:38.680
like they're like, Bud, am
I right? Rage monster? Don't want

1420
01:36:38.680 --> 01:36:42.079
to cross that one. Ed for
some reason, feels the need to tell

1421
01:36:42.119 --> 01:36:49.319
Linda Bud hates himself for hitting her, to which Lynn is like I deserved

1422
01:36:49.399 --> 01:36:56.840
it and like what is happening?
Give her some moxie for God's sake?

1423
01:36:57.319 --> 01:37:01.359
Yes. Meanwhile, Bud heads to
sids Off and discovers that Sid's been killed,

1424
01:37:01.680 --> 01:37:04.640
so both Ed and Bud get messages
from the other to meet at the

1425
01:37:04.800 --> 01:37:10.640
Victory Motel and this At this point, Erica screams at the screen, but

1426
01:37:10.920 --> 01:37:15.359
why would you go there? Yeah, if you know what it's used for,

1427
01:37:16.119 --> 01:37:19.279
what sink? Come on? Cellphones
really would have helped these dudes out

1428
01:37:19.279 --> 01:37:21.800
if they could have texted each other
and been like, did you just call

1429
01:37:21.880 --> 01:37:25.640
me to go to the Victory Hotel? No? Did you know? We're

1430
01:37:25.800 --> 01:37:30.399
definitely not doing that right? Cool? Yeah, in and out thumbs up.

1431
01:37:30.520 --> 01:37:34.039
Awesome animal style. Great hahha.
The two arrived, they quickly realize

1432
01:37:34.039 --> 01:37:38.199
they've fallen for the most obvious trap
in the book. There's twenty minutes left

1433
01:37:38.239 --> 01:37:42.079
in this movie and this recap is
too long. So gunfire, two men

1434
01:37:42.119 --> 01:37:45.520
against an army, impossible odds,
incredibly survive. Oh no, Dudley's here.

1435
01:37:46.000 --> 01:37:50.760
Bud is wounded. Ed realizes that
Smith is the real life Rollo Tamasi

1436
01:37:50.920 --> 01:37:55.960
quote unquote the guy who gets away
with it. Ed gets Dudley at gunpoint,

1437
01:37:56.199 --> 01:37:59.439
and the silver Tongue captain talks about
everything you said earlier, like you

1438
01:37:59.479 --> 01:38:00.800
said you were do this, you
did this, He promises, Look,

1439
01:38:01.039 --> 01:38:03.920
I'm gonna keep promoting you. This
is your way up on the head.

1440
01:38:04.000 --> 01:38:06.960
You can be you can be my
right hand man. And Ed kind of

1441
01:38:08.039 --> 01:38:11.640
hesitates, and Dudleys hears sirens coming
in the distance. He's like yeah,

1442
01:38:12.000 --> 01:38:14.600
and he walks out, and he
turns around and says, get your police

1443
01:38:14.600 --> 01:38:16.279
badge out so they know you're a
policeman. And he turns around waiting for

1444
01:38:16.319 --> 01:38:19.680
the cops, and Ed shoots the
guy he knows is the criminal in the

1445
01:38:19.760 --> 01:38:23.760
back because he thinks he might get
off in a court of law. Right,

1446
01:38:24.039 --> 01:38:27.119
that's the big tie up of this, right, the very thing that

1447
01:38:27.319 --> 01:38:30.239
Dudley said you wouldn't do, he
does at the end to bring about Dudley's

1448
01:38:30.279 --> 01:38:35.880
demise. Did I miss anything?
I alighted a lot of gunfire. There's

1449
01:38:36.000 --> 01:38:40.000
so much gunfire. At one point. I really did think the first time

1450
01:38:40.000 --> 01:38:43.279
I saw this that Russell Crowe was
dead, Like I was shocked. Yeah,

1451
01:38:43.640 --> 01:38:45.880
that he survives the movie, because
they shoot him in the face at

1452
01:38:45.960 --> 01:38:48.279
that point, and I'm like,
oh, well, he's obviously dead.

1453
01:38:48.760 --> 01:38:51.279
No, No, he's still alive. Hulk, fine, Hulk, heal

1454
01:38:51.359 --> 01:38:55.119
quickly. Maybe the reason they shot
him in the face is because he hit

1455
01:38:55.239 --> 01:38:58.800
Linn in the face and that's like
the movies, the movie being like,

1456
01:38:59.399 --> 01:39:00.800
well he is his come up ins
in a way, I don't know,

1457
01:39:01.000 --> 01:39:03.640
I'm reaching. Maybe they shot him
in the face because they're like, well,

1458
01:39:03.680 --> 01:39:05.920
doesn't have a brain, so he'll
be fine, Like there's no other

1459
01:39:06.039 --> 01:39:13.319
vital organs around there. We cut
to Ed's debriefing. He gives them the

1460
01:39:13.479 --> 01:39:16.800
whole unvarnished truth, with the exception
of what he knows about Low the Da.

1461
01:39:17.039 --> 01:39:20.520
Because Low the Da is one of
the people watching the interrogation, he

1462
01:39:20.640 --> 01:39:25.399
knows it right, so he glides
over the fact that Low is part of

1463
01:39:25.479 --> 01:39:30.479
this in a way as well.
Low and the police chief realize this is

1464
01:39:30.560 --> 01:39:35.439
going to cost the the LAPD trauma
for years if this all gets out,

1465
01:39:35.520 --> 01:39:40.079
So we need to hatch a plan
to avoid embarrassment. So we need to

1466
01:39:40.119 --> 01:39:44.439
paint Dudley as a hero who was
killed while taking down Mickey Cohen's crime ring,

1467
01:39:44.960 --> 01:39:47.960
and Ed as like his second in
command who helped him, Like that's

1468
01:39:48.000 --> 01:39:50.239
the only way we're going to get
out of all of this. Ed,

1469
01:39:50.960 --> 01:39:54.880
even though he's in the interrogation room
and can't hear them, he's a few

1470
01:39:54.920 --> 01:39:59.000
steps ahead of them, and he
starts to smile because he realizes what's happening

1471
01:39:59.039 --> 01:40:00.239
in the other room. They turn
on the mic and they're like, what

1472
01:40:00.319 --> 01:40:03.159
are you laughing at? And he's
like, you need a hero, don't

1473
01:40:03.239 --> 01:40:09.359
you. Yeah. We cut to
Ed receiving another medal of valor. He

1474
01:40:09.479 --> 01:40:12.640
is racking him up. He is
like, thirty one years old, you've

1475
01:40:12.680 --> 01:40:15.359
been to have more medals than Simone
Biles. By the end of this movie,

1476
01:40:15.680 --> 01:40:19.199
he spots Lynn in the back of
the ceremony because everyone else is a

1477
01:40:19.239 --> 01:40:23.960
cop in gray and blue and she
is a beautiful blonde woman in a bright

1478
01:40:24.119 --> 01:40:27.960
butter yellow dress in the back,
pretty easy to spot. He goes over

1479
01:40:28.000 --> 01:40:30.560
to her says, Hi, They
kiss on the cheek like they're old friends

1480
01:40:30.600 --> 01:40:35.359
and not someone who fucked someone for
blackmail purposes. Their relationship is weird.

1481
01:40:35.560 --> 01:40:41.920
Should not be this close. I
get that the movie pauses they have trauma

1482
01:40:42.000 --> 01:40:45.680
ponded, but I don't think that's
what happened. Yeah. Fair, So

1483
01:40:45.840 --> 01:40:47.680
she like takes his arm and the
two of them walk out of the police

1484
01:40:47.960 --> 01:40:55.520
headquarters like they're like dogether wherever we
go, like old friends. This is

1485
01:40:55.560 --> 01:40:59.560
when the audience finds out that Bud
survived the shootout. Because you are led

1486
01:40:59.600 --> 01:41:01.920
to believe he died there. But
now she's like, Bud's okay, he's

1487
01:41:02.000 --> 01:41:05.439
in the back of the car.
We're gonna head to Brisbee, Arizona,

1488
01:41:05.600 --> 01:41:10.960
my hometown, and start fresh.
Ed leans into the car window. He

1489
01:41:11.000 --> 01:41:14.920
sees Bud, who's very banged up. They shake hands. Lynn tells Ed.

1490
01:41:15.680 --> 01:41:18.159
Some men get the world, some
get X hookers in a trip to

1491
01:41:18.279 --> 01:41:25.960
Arizona. You know, I kind
of like that line. I'm not gonna

1492
01:41:26.000 --> 01:41:30.720
lie. I uh, it's kind
of stupid, but I I'm glad you

1493
01:41:30.880 --> 01:41:32.760
liked it. I don't. I'm
gonna give it to you. You enjoy

1494
01:41:32.800 --> 01:41:36.600
it. It's silly, It's real
silly. Yeah, they all laugh,

1495
01:41:40.199 --> 01:41:44.560
as though they weren't all just taken
through hell. And she kisses Ed on

1496
01:41:44.640 --> 01:41:49.720
the cheek and she drives off with
Bud. End of La Confidential. So

1497
01:41:50.000 --> 01:41:55.079
stick around. We'll be right back
after these messages for you non patrons,

1498
01:41:55.279 --> 01:42:08.640
and we will take you through our
random observations and final rankings, and we're

1499
01:42:08.720 --> 01:42:11.640
back Erica. Do you have any
final clues that you that you want to

1500
01:42:11.720 --> 01:42:14.960
let everyone know about, any little
tidbits left on the left on the field.

1501
01:42:15.199 --> 01:42:17.399
I have a gross one. There's
a moment where we see like a

1502
01:42:17.520 --> 01:42:21.479
Pierce Patchett floor de Lee party,
and we see all the like Marilyn Monroe

1503
01:42:21.560 --> 01:42:27.079
looking one and the the Greta Garbo
looking like prostitute. There is a Shirley

1504
01:42:27.199 --> 01:42:31.000
Temple. Oh my god, I
missed it. Now the actress's face is

1505
01:42:31.039 --> 01:42:34.279
turned away from us. She's like
sitting on a man's lap as she's he

1506
01:42:34.720 --> 01:42:40.680
Oh, presumably it is an eighteen
year old, right, right? But

1507
01:42:40.840 --> 01:42:44.680
I mean because I think the movie
knows it can't get away with showing anything

1508
01:42:44.880 --> 01:42:47.239
worse. Sure, so presumably the
but like, yeah, there's a Shirley

1509
01:42:47.279 --> 01:42:53.159
Temple in that prostitution ring. Oh
I got Oh that gives me the heb

1510
01:42:53.279 --> 01:42:57.239
gbs even like hearing you say it, I missed it somehow. Oh my

1511
01:42:57.319 --> 01:43:00.520
god, what if they did win
with like with like character actors. What

1512
01:43:00.640 --> 01:43:02.800
if there was like a prostitution ring
where you could you could have sex with

1513
01:43:02.880 --> 01:43:09.840
someone who looks exactly like Parker Posey
Apologiamatti with Beth Grant, that sex with

1514
01:43:09.960 --> 01:43:19.920
Beth Grant with with Steve Do you
know what, I know a lot of

1515
01:43:19.960 --> 01:43:23.159
people who would take you up on
that one. Oh yeah, they would

1516
01:43:23.319 --> 01:43:30.720
no blink with Christopher Lloyd but he's
dressed as Doc Brown with with Marty McFly's

1517
01:43:30.880 --> 01:43:36.199
dad from the From the Back to
the Glover, but he's dressed like George

1518
01:43:36.279 --> 01:43:43.119
McFly. Yeah, whatever what everyone
wanted. You could take Margot Martindale to

1519
01:43:43.199 --> 01:43:48.479
the bone Zone. Do you think
Margot Martindale and and Dowd is one woman

1520
01:43:48.520 --> 01:43:54.159
who dresses herself different. You have
a Margot Martindale and an All I know

1521
01:43:54.319 --> 01:43:59.920
is I want to be in a
threesome with Stephen Tobolowski and and that's all

1522
01:44:00.079 --> 01:44:01.039
I want right now. That's all
you want, That's all you want?

1523
01:44:03.960 --> 01:44:09.199
Okay, this is a very random
one. The woman who plays Inez Soto,

1524
01:44:09.439 --> 01:44:13.279
the rape victim, the Mexican rape
victim in the movie. Her name

1525
01:44:13.359 --> 01:44:15.039
is Marie sol Padilla Sanchez. And
when I saw her, I was like,

1526
01:44:15.119 --> 01:44:17.640
she seems familiar. Do I know
her from somewhere? Turns out I

1527
01:44:17.720 --> 01:44:20.279
don't. She's you know, she's
done a couple of things, but she's

1528
01:44:20.800 --> 01:44:27.000
nothing I've seen. However, that
did lead me to her IMDb page.

1529
01:44:27.239 --> 01:44:30.039
And I want to tell you that
the sentence I'm about to read to you

1530
01:44:30.199 --> 01:44:32.800
does not make sense, but it
is copied and pasted from her IMDb bio.

1531
01:44:33.279 --> 01:44:39.800
Okay, okay, tell us more
in is her mother, Daniella Vali,

1532
01:44:40.680 --> 01:44:45.159
a Mexican actress and trapeze artist,
and is most likely a daughter to

1533
01:44:45.279 --> 01:44:50.560
David Cassidy. The mother is a
daughter to David K. I don't know,

1534
01:44:51.239 --> 01:44:56.399
I don't know. It's got to
be must be the daughter of David

1535
01:44:56.439 --> 01:45:00.520
Cassidy, possibly maybe with Daniella Vali. Yeah, the Mexican trapeze artist.

1536
01:45:00.640 --> 01:45:04.960
Yeah, that that part is undisputed. The father might be David Cassidy of

1537
01:45:05.079 --> 01:45:09.279
the Partridge family. You know what, let's just make it, Cannon,

1538
01:45:09.399 --> 01:45:12.279
Let's just make it. Let's just
do it. Let's just do allegedly,

1539
01:45:12.439 --> 01:45:17.159
I guess legally have to say that
legally. My favorite scene in the movie

1540
01:45:17.359 --> 01:45:21.439
is another real life thing that the
movie sprinkles in a lot of, like

1541
01:45:21.720 --> 01:45:29.159
actual crimes, actual Hongsters, actual
people. At one point, Exley goes

1542
01:45:29.239 --> 01:45:33.119
to shake down Joey Stomponado at some
like nightclub and he's sitting there with a

1543
01:45:33.159 --> 01:45:36.199
woman who looks exactly like Lana Turner. And remember the plot of the film

1544
01:45:36.239 --> 01:45:39.880
we just talked about. He's like
shut up to her, and she's like,

1545
01:45:39.920 --> 01:45:42.239
get away from our table. How
dare you and he's like, hey,

1546
01:45:42.560 --> 01:45:45.039
a hooker who's been cut up to
look like Lana Turner. Isn't Lana

1547
01:45:45.079 --> 01:45:48.680
Turner, She's just the hooker.
And then Jack behind her goes, that

1548
01:45:48.800 --> 01:45:56.159
is Turner. Those are Martini in
his space that if you do not know

1549
01:45:56.319 --> 01:46:01.199
that story, google it fascinating.
That is ye. Lana Turner, famous

1550
01:46:01.279 --> 01:46:06.520
movie star, dated like gangster thug
Joey Stomponado. They were together for a

1551
01:46:06.640 --> 01:46:11.960
long time and it did not end
well, unfortunately for either of them,

1552
01:46:12.039 --> 01:46:15.720
because he apparently was violent with her
one night and got stabbed in her house

1553
01:46:17.000 --> 01:46:21.079
and murdered in her house. The
person who eventually was convicted of the crime

1554
01:46:21.279 --> 01:46:27.560
was her daughter and not Lana Turner, although it is widely speculated that it

1555
01:46:27.640 --> 01:46:30.680
was actually Lana Turner that stabbed him
to death, and no one, no

1556
01:46:30.720 --> 01:46:34.039
one went to prison. Everyone was
basically cool with hit this guy dying.

1557
01:46:34.159 --> 01:46:36.840
No one cared about him. No, everyone's like, what are you.

1558
01:46:38.279 --> 01:46:41.039
The legal system was like, look, we're not out to prosecute a fourteen

1559
01:46:41.119 --> 01:46:44.239
year old girl or a famous movie
star. But apparently it would have been

1560
01:46:44.319 --> 01:46:47.039
bad for Lana Turner's image if she
had been if she'd been the killer,

1561
01:46:47.520 --> 01:46:51.479
so they pinned it on the fourteen
year old. That's all timey Hollywood for

1562
01:46:51.600 --> 01:46:56.640
you. Yeah, the kid'll be
fine. Now see here, gum,

1563
01:46:57.479 --> 01:47:01.520
what's gonna do. We're gonna pinish
online? Okay, truly incredible story.

1564
01:47:01.600 --> 01:47:05.199
Oh my god, a prostitution ring
where you can have sex with current day

1565
01:47:05.279 --> 01:47:17.800
Liza Minelli. O Lord, did
you notice in the very beginning it went

1566
01:47:18.039 --> 01:47:23.039
for the Christmas party when Bud goes
and he breaks up that domestic violence incident,

1567
01:47:23.960 --> 01:47:26.880
that they have a Christmas tree and
a manora in the window. I

1568
01:47:27.000 --> 01:47:30.560
spot wokeism. I didn't notice that. Well, there are there are Jewish

1569
01:47:30.640 --> 01:47:34.279
characters in the film. Sid Hutchins
is Jewish. He uses a few,

1570
01:47:35.960 --> 01:47:40.960
and I believe the da is also
like Ron Rifkin's character is supposed to also

1571
01:47:41.000 --> 01:47:44.000
be Jewish. Oh yeah, well
his last name is low so yeah,

1572
01:47:44.119 --> 01:47:46.239
that makes sense right. Yeah.
I just have one more, And that's

1573
01:47:46.279 --> 01:47:49.720
one of my favorite lines in the
film is said by Sid Hutchins. All

1574
01:47:49.800 --> 01:47:54.520
of his lines are truly excellent.
He calls what he does sinewendo. I

1575
01:47:54.640 --> 01:48:00.279
write excellent, that's excellent. My
last one is actually a Sid Hudgens line

1576
01:48:00.279 --> 01:48:04.079
as well. It is when he's
being tied up and questioned Dudley's like,

1577
01:48:04.239 --> 01:48:08.640
what can you tell me about Jack
Vincenn's and Sid goes, I can tell

1578
01:48:08.680 --> 01:48:13.359
you he's on the night train to
the Big Audios Excellent, excellent, excellent.

1579
01:48:13.720 --> 01:48:15.199
Really enjoyed it. We kind of
ragged on the movie a lot,

1580
01:48:15.319 --> 01:48:18.800
but I really liked this movie,
Like, I had a really good time

1581
01:48:18.880 --> 01:48:24.239
watching it. I like hard boiled
detective stories. Yeah, Russell Crow and

1582
01:48:24.279 --> 01:48:28.279
Kimbasinger ofvit all really was like I
was like, huh, but I was

1583
01:48:28.359 --> 01:48:30.800
less annoyed with it than you were, and I was just more like,

1584
01:48:30.039 --> 01:48:33.119
but why, like just cut these
two out of the movie, almost like

1585
01:48:33.239 --> 01:48:36.479
fair enough? Or give her something
to do for God's sake. I think

1586
01:48:36.560 --> 01:48:42.000
that was the big takeaway for like, on second watching, I really enjoyed

1587
01:48:42.079 --> 01:48:45.359
everything, except really that I had
the world wrong going in the first time.

1588
01:48:45.439 --> 01:48:47.560
Now that I know the world,
the only thing that sticks out really

1589
01:48:47.760 --> 01:48:53.600
is those two. Yeah all right, Erica, How how shall we rank

1590
01:48:54.119 --> 01:49:02.760
La Confidential? One to ten?
Perfectly executed Irish accents. I'm into my

1591
01:49:02.880 --> 01:49:06.600
kitchen, mon, come on in
my house, Come on in my house.

1592
01:49:11.560 --> 01:49:16.000
One to ten Hulk smash, Yeah, polk angry Hulk tear wooden chair

1593
01:49:16.039 --> 01:49:19.680
Apart with Hulk Bear, he murders
more chairs than people in this movie,

1594
01:49:19.720 --> 01:49:23.079
and he murders a lot of people. To be fair, he murders a

1595
01:49:23.159 --> 01:49:26.159
lot of people. But we didn't
even talk about the chair that gets thrown

1596
01:49:26.159 --> 01:49:29.439
out the window at one point.
That's right, what I presume is a

1597
01:49:29.640 --> 01:49:33.960
multi level building, which means some
pedestrian down there got got smashed with a

1598
01:49:34.000 --> 01:49:43.520
fucking chair. One to ten sinew
windows. Mmm, it's a night trained

1599
01:49:43.560 --> 01:49:47.159
to the Bigadio. Sinuindo is fun. I'm actually surprised sinuendo isn't like I

1600
01:49:47.199 --> 01:49:50.319
don't know, like a like a
like a super villain name and a comic

1601
01:49:51.199 --> 01:49:57.720
one to ten swishes and ac deuces
and and sissies and grasshoppers and grasshoppers and

1602
01:49:57.800 --> 01:50:01.319
taco benders. Those are just as
the slur as we can say. There

1603
01:50:01.359 --> 01:50:04.640
are worse ones. Yeah, I
have to say though, and again it

1604
01:50:04.720 --> 01:50:10.279
might be period appropriateness, but like, they don't use any of the big

1605
01:50:10.399 --> 01:50:13.399
ones that we would flag today.
They really don't. They don't use the

1606
01:50:13.560 --> 01:50:15.479
N word, they don't use the
the F word that we don't say on

1607
01:50:15.560 --> 01:50:18.399
the show. They don't think that
I think there's a there's one for hispan

1608
01:50:18.600 --> 01:50:21.680
X that pops up that I would
say is the is the most current.

1609
01:50:23.079 --> 01:50:27.119
Yes, agreed, agreed. And
even there's a moment where someone calls Linna

1610
01:50:27.159 --> 01:50:29.640
whore and Patch it's like, well, that's a little harsh, don't you

1611
01:50:29.720 --> 01:50:31.960
think, Like in the movie he's
like, all right, calm down,

1612
01:50:32.239 --> 01:50:36.399
Like yeah, yeah, it's interesting, Like I don't know, maybe they

1613
01:50:36.439 --> 01:50:40.159
were just going for period accuracy,
but it is interesting the way that it

1614
01:50:40.760 --> 01:50:44.119
it softens the movie. Like if
they were calling, if there were N

1615
01:50:44.199 --> 01:50:47.359
bombs and F bombs and like just
everywhere, I think these characters would just

1616
01:50:47.439 --> 01:50:50.920
be even more difficult to like than
they already are. You would bring it

1617
01:50:50.960 --> 01:50:54.560
would bring too much real world into
it. Yeah, I have to think

1618
01:50:54.600 --> 01:50:58.560
that was somewhat intentional. Yeah,
maybe I'm over I'm overthinking it, but

1619
01:50:58.920 --> 01:51:00.920
to me that seems intentional. I
agree. Do you want to go first

1620
01:51:00.960 --> 01:51:03.079
on this one? Or should I
go first on this one? Why don't

1621
01:51:03.119 --> 01:51:05.800
you go first? Since I think
I gonna be nicer to the movie than

1622
01:51:05.840 --> 01:51:10.279
you are. Okay, fair enough? The movie to me is fine,

1623
01:51:10.600 --> 01:51:14.520
It is fine. I don't think
it's a particularly good mystery, and I

1624
01:51:14.720 --> 01:51:20.640
think the way it engages with its
story of police corruption comes off today as

1625
01:51:20.840 --> 01:51:27.720
pretty surface and shallow, and I
can't say how it came off in nineteen

1626
01:51:27.760 --> 01:51:29.840
ninety seven. I was there,
but I don't really remember it. I've

1627
01:51:29.880 --> 01:51:31.439
drank a lot since then, so
I don't really have a memory of that

1628
01:51:31.560 --> 01:51:35.479
time. You've been a grasshopper since
then, Yeah, exactly, You've been

1629
01:51:35.520 --> 01:51:39.399
in the drunk tank. Every chance
I get, I wind up in the

1630
01:51:39.439 --> 01:51:44.359
drunk tank. As far as its
portrayal of gay people goes, I'm actually

1631
01:51:44.439 --> 01:51:46.279
fine with all the gay portrayals in
the movie, Like the fact that they

1632
01:51:46.319 --> 01:51:53.399
actually have Jack who winds up being
the person who goes from corrupt to more

1633
01:51:53.520 --> 01:51:58.079
moral in the movie and then gets
killed for it, which is a pretty

1634
01:51:58.119 --> 01:52:00.920
dark story. But the fact they
have him just simply feeling bad about like

1635
01:52:01.760 --> 01:52:05.439
screwing this actor in this way,
Like it doesn't even seem like Jack and

1636
01:52:05.680 --> 01:52:11.199
Sid when they're talking about like this
this gay hookup, they're not disgusted by

1637
01:52:11.239 --> 01:52:14.680
it being gay. Sid just wants
like the better story. Yeah, they're

1638
01:52:14.720 --> 01:52:16.760
men of the world, they understand. Yeah, they're not like disgusted by

1639
01:52:16.760 --> 01:52:18.439
it at all. It's just like
this is the way it is, you

1640
01:52:18.520 --> 01:52:21.840
know, so the gay star ends
of the movie are kind of depressing if

1641
01:52:21.880 --> 01:52:25.920
you think about them in the real
world, But the movie has enough of

1642
01:52:25.960 --> 01:52:28.840
a remove from the real world that
that doesn't really echo too much to me.

1643
01:52:28.880 --> 01:52:30.520
When I watched it, I was
like, whatever, this is low

1644
01:52:30.640 --> 01:52:34.399
level stuff compared to everything else that's
going on. The stuff with the people

1645
01:52:34.479 --> 01:52:40.159
of color is more difficult. The
only those that's true there is the boxer

1646
01:52:40.640 --> 01:52:44.119
who helps who's Jack's contact, Yeah, right, that, and he is

1647
01:52:44.199 --> 01:52:47.279
portrayed as like a person just in
La trying to make his way in the

1648
01:52:47.319 --> 01:52:50.880
world. But the other three black
people who are the victims of the cover

1649
01:52:51.039 --> 01:52:58.680
up are also portrayed as truly heinous
human beings in their own right, and

1650
01:52:59.520 --> 01:53:01.760
that's very difficult. And then the
Mexican men that are brought in the beginning

1651
01:53:01.840 --> 01:53:06.239
are not really given much character.
They're they're they're props to for the police

1652
01:53:06.359 --> 01:53:11.119
to brutalize. Uh that that sticks
in my craw a little bit. But

1653
01:53:11.199 --> 01:53:14.159
I do understand what your point when
you say, like, they have to

1654
01:53:14.279 --> 01:53:18.840
make those those three black men horrible
people to let the police off the hook

1655
01:53:18.920 --> 01:53:21.000
enough that you can wind up rooting
for Ed and but at the end,

1656
01:53:21.079 --> 01:53:26.439
like there's this like math that you
have to do and and those characters are

1657
01:53:26.439 --> 01:53:30.720
the victims of that. I think
the biggest problem in the movie is it's

1658
01:53:30.760 --> 01:53:35.600
female characters, because there is only
one. Lynn is the only female character

1659
01:53:35.680 --> 01:53:40.960
of any note. Maybe Missus Lefferts
gets to have some fun and I Nez,

1660
01:53:41.119 --> 01:53:45.199
but but I Nez isn't really Andz
has three lines and and and that's

1661
01:53:45.239 --> 01:53:47.479
it. And and the actress does
a good job, but like she gets

1662
01:53:47.560 --> 01:53:51.000
to say, like the quiet part
out loud, I guess of the movie.

1663
01:53:53.399 --> 01:53:57.079
But Lynn is the only one of
real of any depth at all,

1664
01:53:57.399 --> 01:54:01.279
I would say. And I don't
think that depth is super deep. I

1665
01:54:01.319 --> 01:54:03.800
think it's like a three foot part. It's the shallow end of the pool,

1666
01:54:03.840 --> 01:54:05.960
not the deep end of the pool. It's a coy pond. It's

1667
01:54:05.960 --> 01:54:09.640
a coy pond, if you will. We're dealing with a coy pond here.

1668
01:54:10.439 --> 01:54:13.800
Yeah. And I think part of
my issue that I wasn't able to

1669
01:54:13.880 --> 01:54:15.279
kind of like let go of the
butt and lind stuff as much as you

1670
01:54:15.359 --> 01:54:19.319
were, is that I kept expecting
there to be more. And I think

1671
01:54:19.359 --> 01:54:24.920
there were opportunities for there to be
more, and and I get you your

1672
01:54:25.159 --> 01:54:29.520
point that, like they're playing with
the trope if you really understand that kind

1673
01:54:29.560 --> 01:54:30.600
of movie, which I really admit
I don't like. I haven't watched a

1674
01:54:30.640 --> 01:54:33.680
lot of them, so I don't
know all of those tropes Like that conversation

1675
01:54:34.239 --> 01:54:39.079
doesn't come through to me. So
you just wind up with a really shallow

1676
01:54:39.199 --> 01:54:43.880
character who for some reason likes this
idiot and that's all she wrote. Well,

1677
01:54:43.960 --> 01:54:45.920
the crazy thing is is they're playing
with two tropes there. There's these

1678
01:54:46.000 --> 01:54:49.840
movies always have like a femme fatale
and then the angel, and so what

1679
01:54:49.920 --> 01:54:54.960
they've done is they've combined both of
those in Linn, and yet somehow made

1680
01:54:55.039 --> 01:54:59.239
her less interesting even though she is
both. She should have been twice as

1681
01:54:59.279 --> 01:55:02.520
interesting he was in the film,
as opposed to that should not have negated

1682
01:55:02.680 --> 01:55:08.039
anything about her. Yeah, yeah, so, uh, I don't know.

1683
01:55:08.159 --> 01:55:11.399
I didn't. I didn't hate the
movie. I think think if you

1684
01:55:11.479 --> 01:55:13.720
take out the button Lind stuff,
which I didn't like, I think I

1685
01:55:13.920 --> 01:55:17.159
would honestly give it like an eighty
percent. It's a fun police thriller.

1686
01:55:17.600 --> 01:55:20.359
It's the button Lind stuff. Everything
but the button Lint stuff. I really,

1687
01:55:20.600 --> 01:55:23.960
I really have no issue with you
were right when you said that earlier,

1688
01:55:24.079 --> 01:55:27.279
Like, that's the that's the Achilles
Heel of the movie for me.

1689
01:55:28.039 --> 01:55:30.479
And it's also a period piece,
so it's set in the fifties, so

1690
01:55:30.560 --> 01:55:32.800
that takes a lot of like some
of the stuff we would normally criticize,

1691
01:55:33.239 --> 01:55:36.119
it goes away because of the reality
of the time period it set in.

1692
01:55:38.600 --> 01:55:42.520
I'll give it a six. I'll
give it a six out of ten swishes

1693
01:55:42.520 --> 01:55:45.479
in acdc's I think if you want
to watch it, don't go in thinking

1694
01:55:45.600 --> 01:55:50.800
it is a Oscar winning, stunning
masterpiece like a Good Fellas. I think

1695
01:55:50.840 --> 01:55:56.960
it's a fun It's a collateral movie. It's a collateral. It's exactly it

1696
01:55:57.079 --> 01:55:59.720
is a collateral. What do you
think. I liked it way more than

1697
01:55:59.720 --> 01:56:02.920
you did. I actually think it's
way better than Collateral. Collateral was dumb

1698
01:56:03.079 --> 01:56:06.000
on many levels. This one is
like it only dumb on one. It

1699
01:56:06.119 --> 01:56:10.680
really only falls down on one.
I think that as a crime story,

1700
01:56:11.079 --> 01:56:13.680
as a murder mystery, I think
you're right, there's really no mystery to

1701
01:56:13.800 --> 01:56:15.039
it. I'd forgotten that when we
chose it, and I was like,

1702
01:56:15.119 --> 01:56:18.199
oh, yeah, there's no mystery
in this movie. I wish we'd pick

1703
01:56:18.279 --> 01:56:21.960
something that was actually a mystery.
Next week we have a real mystery,

1704
01:56:23.079 --> 01:56:27.000
actual murder mystery, because this is
not a mystery, this is a crime

1705
01:56:27.119 --> 01:56:30.319
thriller. I don't remember if I
was like even remotely surprised when we when

1706
01:56:30.399 --> 01:56:35.119
Dudley shoots Jack. I will say
they did do that beat well, because

1707
01:56:35.279 --> 01:56:39.079
even though I knew the whole time, I was a little shocked when he

1708
01:56:39.079 --> 01:56:42.399
actually shot him. Yeah, so
they built it well. It also happened

1709
01:56:42.479 --> 01:56:45.000
so fast. Yeah. I like
it as a movie. I think the

1710
01:56:45.119 --> 01:56:48.560
dialogue is great. I think the
actors are all uniformly wonderful, even Uni

1711
01:56:48.640 --> 01:56:53.199
King Basinger, who maybe did not
deserve an Oscar for this, but is

1712
01:56:53.279 --> 01:56:57.880
doing her fucking level best to make
this shit work. I don't think it's

1713
01:56:57.880 --> 01:57:00.079
skirts past the stuff that you think
it's skirts by. I think it actually

1714
01:57:00.199 --> 01:57:04.239
confronts it pretty head on. The
cops immediately. Always, and this is

1715
01:57:04.279 --> 01:57:11.640
a trope in absolutely every movie that
minorities always get like blamed for every crime

1716
01:57:11.720 --> 01:57:15.279
that happens in these major cities,
right in these in these cases. And

1717
01:57:15.439 --> 01:57:18.279
so I think the movie hits that, and really hits that in a way,

1718
01:57:18.359 --> 01:57:23.479
that way, way way more movies
just blow past it, and then

1719
01:57:23.520 --> 01:57:25.800
the audience is left to be like, well, we know that's bad,

1720
01:57:26.439 --> 01:57:30.119
but they don't follow through. They
don't show us like the murder of of

1721
01:57:30.600 --> 01:57:35.680
young men in service of like this, this grander police scheme. It does

1722
01:57:35.800 --> 01:57:40.720
let you slightly off the hook because
these guys are fucking terrible too, But

1723
01:57:40.880 --> 01:57:44.560
I'm not sorry about that, frankly, because it would have it would have

1724
01:57:45.039 --> 01:57:46.520
it makes the movie. It would
have made the movie so hard to watch

1725
01:57:47.479 --> 01:57:50.880
and so dark. I mean,
it's already so dark and nihilistic, Like,

1726
01:57:50.960 --> 01:57:55.640
I don't know if it needs more
nihilism on top of it all.

1727
01:57:55.880 --> 01:58:00.600
I think it treats gay characters remarkably
well. Given for nineteen ninety seven,

1728
01:58:00.720 --> 01:58:06.439
it could have been really really bad, and Matt and even Low are given

1729
01:58:06.600 --> 01:58:11.319
like a tremendous amount of like empathy
I think from the film. Yeah,

1730
01:58:11.479 --> 01:58:14.880
most movies, even in nineteen ninety
seven, and something written in nineteen ninety

1731
01:58:14.920 --> 01:58:17.920
that takes place in nineteen fifty three
would not have afforded them. That's fair.

1732
01:58:18.039 --> 01:58:23.800
I think there is more thoughtfulness behind
the film than like your average crime

1733
01:58:23.880 --> 01:58:27.800
thriller. You're right, women,
nobueno in this film, they're all victimous.

1734
01:58:28.960 --> 01:58:31.880
They are all survivors in some way
of some kind of horrible violence done

1735
01:58:31.920 --> 01:58:35.000
to them by men. I would
say, even even Susan Leffert's mother.

1736
01:58:36.800 --> 01:58:41.760
Yet, like it's it's all bad. It's not good. They're like the

1737
01:58:41.960 --> 01:58:46.399
they're the the damsels in distress in
service of this very male dominated plot.

1738
01:58:46.520 --> 01:58:50.279
So that's not great. So I'm
you. We gave it a six.

1739
01:58:50.920 --> 01:58:56.039
I gave it a six. I'm
gonna give it. I'm gonna give it

1740
01:58:56.079 --> 01:59:01.119
a seven. Okay, seven out
of ten ACD season swishes. But I

1741
01:59:01.239 --> 01:59:04.119
do have a palate cleanser. I
suspect it's the same one you have.

1742
01:59:04.640 --> 01:59:09.239
I know I have a very random
one. Oh mine isn't random. Mine

1743
01:59:09.399 --> 01:59:14.119
is the new Perry Mason Show on
HBO. They've only been two seasons.

1744
01:59:14.159 --> 01:59:16.680
I think I got canceled sadly.
Yeah, but it takes place in the

1745
01:59:16.840 --> 01:59:21.359
exact same era, in the exact
same milieu, like the exact same type

1746
01:59:21.399 --> 01:59:26.439
of genre. You got your you
got your your ac Deucey's, you got

1747
01:59:26.479 --> 01:59:30.159
your swishes, you got your people
of color. It's fantastic, and it's

1748
01:59:30.399 --> 01:59:33.880
it does so much course correcting for
everything that came before it. It's really

1749
01:59:33.960 --> 01:59:38.159
good. Highly recommend if you haven't
seen it. If you like something kind

1750
01:59:38.199 --> 01:59:42.520
of hard boiled and dark but stylish
and sleek at the same time and with

1751
01:59:42.640 --> 01:59:45.600
a heart of gold in the middle, definitely watch the New Perry Mason on

1752
01:59:45.800 --> 01:59:48.800
HBO. I agree. I will
say I would say I liked the second

1753
01:59:48.880 --> 01:59:51.720
season of that show way more than
the first season. I thought it took

1754
01:59:51.720 --> 01:59:55.520
a big step up in the second
I like the first season, but I

1755
01:59:55.680 --> 01:59:58.239
love the second season. Agreed,
But you do have to watch the first

1756
01:59:58.239 --> 02:00:01.359
season understand what happens in the second
season. And again, it's not bad.

1757
02:00:01.439 --> 02:00:03.159
It's just like, if you're like, this is a little slow,

1758
02:00:03.239 --> 02:00:05.399
I don't know about it. If
you stick with it the second season to

1759
02:00:05.479 --> 02:00:10.800
really grip you yea. I have
a really random one. I watched this

1760
02:00:10.960 --> 02:00:14.399
movie once in the early aughts,
and I remember it being very good.

1761
02:00:14.520 --> 02:00:16.600
I've done some research on it.
It seems like it's held up as a

1762
02:00:16.640 --> 02:00:19.880
good movie. There is a movie
called The Some of Us. It is

1763
02:00:19.920 --> 02:00:24.920
a nineteen ninety four Australian movie in
which Russell Crowe plays a gay guy who

1764
02:00:25.000 --> 02:00:28.520
lives with his widowed father. Oh
yeah, it's a whole thing about like

1765
02:00:28.600 --> 02:00:30.800
how his father's like almost overly supportive
of him being gay, and like they're

1766
02:00:30.840 --> 02:00:35.600
both dating, and it's this whole
thing that all sounds delightful and very fun

1767
02:00:35.720 --> 02:00:40.039
to watch, which it is.
But I'm just warning everyone there is a

1768
02:00:40.079 --> 02:00:44.359
twist in this movie where the father
undergoes like a medical emergency and everything becomes

1769
02:00:44.479 --> 02:00:48.760
much darker. So I like the
movie. It's very well. I remember

1770
02:00:48.800 --> 02:00:51.720
liking the movie. I haven't seen
it in a long time, but I

1771
02:00:51.960 --> 02:00:55.760
think it ages pretty well. I'm
guessing ages pretty well. Maybe we'll do

1772
02:00:55.840 --> 02:00:58.000
it someday. Who knows, Maybe
we'll run out of enough movies that we

1773
02:00:58.039 --> 02:01:01.439
wind up on some little Australian Indie
from nineteen ninety four, the Some of

1774
02:01:01.560 --> 02:01:04.760
Us with Russell Krowe, or the
other Australian India that we've covered with Guy

1775
02:01:04.840 --> 02:01:08.680
Pearce, Priscilla Queen of the Desert. All right, So that is the

1776
02:01:08.840 --> 02:01:11.760
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1785
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poll to determine one of our subjects. So head on over to patreon dot

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com slash that age Well podcast to
find out more. Speaking of which,

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Erica some tears on our Patreon come
with thanks for a podcast character. And

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today we're hearing from a man I
only wish could have lent his velvet tone

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to La confidential. Mister Keanu Reeves, Hi, this is Keanu coming to

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you from the City of Angels.
That's right, Los Angeles, where good

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is bad and bad is good and
left is right and sometimes people win Academy

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Awards for doing basically nothing in a
movie. Is that the crime of the

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century. Maybe? Actually, no, that would be Crash winning the Academy

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Award for Best Picture. What a
fucking turd. The other crime was being

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overlooked my amazing performances as William Preston
Esquire in The Bill and Ted Trilogie.

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But I digress. I'm here to
thank Doug for listening to that aged Well.

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Thank you, Doug. You know
what crime you have not committed,

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The crime of omission, the crime
of not listening to that aged well via

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Condias Doug. Wow. When I
think of Keanu Reeves Oscar winning roles,

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I think his supporting turn in Dangerous
Liaisons where he was really robbed but he

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doesn't feel that way. I feel
it's the John Wick franchise myself. Fair

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enough, fair enough, all right, Erica? Any final thoughts on La

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Confidential La confidential Paul In the City
of Angels, no one is above the

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law, and no one gets away
without being called or racial or ethnic slur,

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your big dumb Italian, your big
swish buzz meets and Dick's Stensland are

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the dark timelines Hitchcock and Scully from
Brooklyn ninety nine. Oh that's canon,

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I will hear. None of it
feats for Brooklyn nine nine Hitchcock and Scully,

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but they've broken bad. It is
yea, it is Meeks and Stinsless.

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That's chilling. Actually, I don't
care for that. I don't care

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for that at all.

