Good morning, Mother sphere good morning bad comonic sphere of the cover welcome to
a new episode of Good morning, Mother Wait welcome to a new podcast of
this group of episodes where for already some seven years we love you accompanying with
interviews always very interesting people, themes that may be laughing. My guest is
not good, he cuts me, he cuts me off the presentation, but
nothing happens, because he already knows it, you know it by heart,
that I always tell you how many things, but well it is that you
have to introduce these things always not in the best way that I bring cool
people who always know that here are current issues or that they are always relevant
and that, although you think that you do not care and that you do
not care, they do not affect. That' s not true. Always
from each episode you can get some reflection, some learning or some emotion,
because on many occasions, the most we can aspire to is entertaining how beautiful
and how little. And that much at the same time, today I have
with me virtually here a guest with whom I have already had the luxury of
chatting on several occasions that well, I am very excited to invite again to
this Good day Mother Sphere, because it is always a pleasure to talk with
him. We learn a lot, a lot from him and besides, I
' m going to ask him to be a pelin the mic apart so that
in all his laughter, if his emotion does not arrive in that way directly
to our audience hello. Alejandro, how are you, Alejandro Rodrigo, our
beloved admirer, Alejandro Rodrigo, with whom we have already spoken on many occasions.
Alejandro, how are you going to see Monica, good morning, how
are you Mothersphere Hello to the whole Community. This is wonderful. I'
m here delighted, I laugh at jons, but I' m just so
happy to be with you at last here again, on this stage I feel
at home, at your house. Well, not very happy, really.
Thank you very much. It' s an honor, it' s a
pleasure to see if, indeed, it gives us to talk about nice and
good things and it' s not you two hours here saying we' re
happy, but I have to tell you it' s an honor, that
is, thank you very much. Sh How' s the microphone there?
What' s up? To see well well, little by little, little
by little, the thing goes there before. Don' t touch it.
I think there' s better. There' s no better. Technical issues
sometimes cost. This doesn' t come up, you just have to practice
and you know. We always have our technical stuff. They usually don'
t listen, but this program has cost us a lot to achieve. Alexander,
for things of life that don' t come to the point. We
had a hard time getting here. It' s a hit. It is
a success for me to get to talk to you and even though we have
started very laughing and that well, it is always a joy to talk to
you. Nor do I promise the audience that it is an episode of much
haja, no, although with me you never know, because sometimes I laugh
at things that good, because there are people who bother because I laugh a
lot but in this case it is true that laughter is not the predominant theme
of our conversation, Alejandro, because it is true that with you, because
we have to talk about hard things and more with the new book that you
have published, Alejandro. Yeah. Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah?
Yeah? Yeah? Yeah, and that' s where we squeeze our hearts.
Look at adolescence, it' s pure emotion and a lot of humor.
It' d be two o' clock today. Done, then,
I, in fact, do this because I don' t want to stop
being a teenager. He does. This second book, well, it'
s different. First, the first one is one I don' t know
if it guides, but it' s like a little bit more disclosure of
good, so look. This is more technical things to learn to detect aggression
and violence, which is what I do. Young teenagers who present violent or
aggressive behaviors within their family home with their parents, in fact, to cut
and but well, I was a probation technician in the player of Madrid.
Here, in the player of minors in Madrid, and I specialized from the
two thousand eight to the two thousand thousand twenty, only in cases of ascending
domestic abuse, that is, boys and girls who had a judicial measure because
they had been denounced for a potentially criminal act and such a court had pronounced
sentence then, this which, indeed, has nothing of grace truth what you
had said the beginning of this good said, that is, my mother,
yes, I have judged minors from two thousand eight to two thousand twenty,
specialized only in that is what I dedicated myself hour after hour to see these
cases. But the first book is one more book of outreach, of understanding,
of sharing with all readers, for everything I had learned and how to
detect aggressive behaviors differentiate it from violence. Why we can get there and somehow
then extract learning worth, what we can do to prevent this from happening to
us. And the secret of the first book was that we can' t
look at you. I, Monica, run away a lot from the management
books that tell you what to do, you have to set limits, you
have to tell your son this, you have to spend more time with him.
It seems to me that with all respect and admiration, because making a
book is a titanic thing or spreading well too, but in the case that
it is my responsibility it is much more difficult, because each case is a
world, that is, really your family and mine, being practically the same
it is. Let us think, however, that we are a world.
You as a mother and I as a father, I' m sure we
' re a world. Then we must attend to the individuality of each case.
That' s the first book and the second book. Well, you
' ve already seen it. I think it is entertaining, not there,
yes, to see, entertaining, entertaining and we love entertaining, or here
anything, already between tower. You can' t let him go. I
mean, it' s a book that hooks you from the front page by
the way you narrate it, and we haven' t presented the book conveniently.
Please forgive them for real news from within. Author Alejandro Rodrigo and his
first book was how to prevent conflicts with adolescents. Published both the first and
second by current platform. You have, not one, but two podcasts dedicated
to the first book, because here, Alexander and I are very intense both
and we didn' t have enough left with the one, which we said
is true. It' s true. Not in the world can be.
No, we need others you can' t be. Two. Okay And
then, he also came to a mother sphere space where we had the luxury
of chatting with you with Borjatswara, and I think there was also Carolina from
Nia, where we talked about control, lack of autonomy or excess autonomy,
how to manage autonomy in childhood. True, yes, yes, Human,
yes, and we also talked a lot about social networks, screens, but
autonomy technology, as because all the sphere space is always in space of telephone
foundation. We always talk about family and technology. And there you were with
us, that is, you' ve been leaving here several times, because
you' ve been able to listen to him several times and we said that
this book is entertaining. This book is entertaining. Real teenagers analyzed by an
expert who will help you understand the risks and strengths of each stage of the
cover. Let' s start with the cover that already presents us with a
figure, a silhouette of a hooded character, so you don' t see
that it' s like a shadow and what that typical one could be.
She' s a teen already covered in the shade. Something is already telling
us there that something more regular. And besides, I remember when you published
this book that you told me is very hard. Hey, eye, it
' s very hard, uh, yeah, it' s very hard.
Jo oysters is warning me now, fabric, cloth, I' m leaving
ready And it' s true that it' s very hard. It'
s true that it hooks you from the front page to the last page.
And it' s true that I cried no. That' s right,
that' s saying a lot of saying a little, because it' s
true that I' m a crying person, but that goes beyond an outreach
book, it goes beyond a teen book, because I hooked you up in
a very human way. You touch, emotions and things in there where we
' re reading you, that leaves you, that leaves you a mark,
that' s a book that marks. There' s my little brief review
So first, to start seeing you say very excited, very excited, because
you' ve counted super excited. Really so much for the times you'
ve given me the chance to be here with you. If I' m
here it' s because it' s a huge pleasure for me, so
thank you so much. Then, by the way, a brief note.
I found it super stimulating from that space where we were in presence and I
learned a lot in two companions and when you talk, you also learn from
yourself from saying my God what a fool. I' m already saying oh,
well, this fits what I thought, so good. Thank you very
much. Let' s see, Mira. I sat down with the publisher
and told them I had an idea of a second book. Tomorrow come on,
start tomorrow and then I sat down with the publisher I was going to
be my editor for and I posed several ideas that I had from where to
focus a second book. I was very clear that I didn' t want
to make a second book that was a continuation of the first, because not
to me that not to me that didn' t attract my attention and I
wanted to make a book that would come out of my heart. And really
because I think it would be easier to do one instead of how to prevent
conflicts with teenagers such as intervening in conflicts with fingers. In the first,
I sell you prevention, in the second I sell you how to act.
However, I think it was going to be very forced and I didn'
t want to. When I told my editor Mercedes Castro, and I said
look at Mercedes, I have thought that, like mine, the trench is
the job itself, that is, the you to you, the teenager one
after another, the four o' clock one, the five o' clock
one, the six o' clock one, the seven o' clock one,
and I really have cases that are very good that I think can impact
quite a lot and that the boys themselves have a lot of learning. They
have a lot of messages to tell. I told her what if she didn
' t watch a few cases and then we did a technical analysis of each
case and then she looked at me that she' s a great editor and
that she edited great texts and great novels and looked at me and said well,
if you' re able to see what comes out of you. It
' s not without challenge, yeah, yeah, and good. Today I
am super proud of the result. But the fundamental thing is that I want
to tell you is that I too was very excited in some section of the
editorial, to remember those protagonists and those protagonists and I want to tell you
something that happened a month ago. Well, it doesn' t matter when
this is a podcast that' s gonna be listening to people. In two
thousand fifty- three, so when we had the presentation of the second book,
you notice what I' m going to tell you in the presentation of
the second book, I thought that from this book I wanted no one to
come, because it was a horrible day in Madrid, of rain and I
had many cancellations of there something to be done by Alejandro. I' m
not going I can' t go. Hey, I got a puncture in
my car. Listen to real things and I said well, that' s
it. I' m going to go my mother, the editor, and
no longer success, it' s not the numbers, but the love you
have in the room. Don' t see it' s okay, but
suddenly they started to fill up people and I got a little bit out of
control and I started saying a lot of nonsense, I have to say,
but they suddenly appeared as protagonists of the book in the room, and that
really removed me a lot. The mother of the first case showed up.
This mother appeared conception there and didn' t give me time to say hello,
but I was already with the microphone talking and suddenly I see her coming
in and then I see her look at you. I am still very excited,
I see her looking at me and smiling at me, as I say
here I am and she gave me a turn of heart saying of my God
has come and or came also the second wine in the chapter of all of
them, which is a little difficult case of gender violence, and she came
and came and also came accompanied by her parents and again she removed me very
much behind. There is no doubt that I had them, but sent the
manuscript so that they would have it, because it is not them. It
' s not really them, but it' s them. They themselves radiating
were reflected in these paragraphs. It' s me and these others you'
ve touched more because I have to save everything, but it was extremely exciting.
So it' s a book that people who have read it tell me
depends on your theme and depends on what moves you. There are novels,
forgiveness, there are cases that move more. It has removed me and I
the day of the presentation gave me a tremendous turnaround seeing good these people who
have been so important and are so important. How you chose the cases and
how you wanted to put it so that it wasn' t an exhibition of
the most dramatic or tragic or shocking that, to not fall into a big
brother you know a show that could have fallen because we all know contained formats
where it goes. Sometimes she also sells that she is a teenager, very
violent that drama that sometimes turns around in the best way. Not how you
got it, what themes you chose and how you organized it, just so
it wasn' t. Well, it' s very difficult what I'
m going to tell you, but pretend to be honest. This is a
book where you have to be honest about the respect for every family I'
ve written there and every kid. First things first. All the cases you
' ve read are intentionally diminished in their level of tension and gravity that they
had in real life, that is, they' re not at all as
they were in real life. In real life there was much more explicit violence,
but I can' t put so much in a book. There was
a father once that I remember many times that came a talk from me years
ago and told me it' s the second talk that I came from you
in a hospital and I really like the content of all this. I was
waiting for the but, not all the time. It' s good to
see when the but arrives, and the but is a but, Alexander,
it stresses me a lot, I' m very distressed to hear you,
because our case is not such an explicit case of violence. There' s
no blood in my house and I realized that, indeed, without me wanting,
but it came from the juvenile court to work twelve years with the biggest
crimes you know you can imagine. And we' re not talking to a
rebel boy. We are not talking about many times a rebellious boy and many
times a boy that a family has reached a certain level because they are hardly
imaginable. Therefore, the first thing is that the case of Raquel, the
case of Ana, the case of Román, in the case of the Chavales,
the case of the teacher, the case are all cases that I have
removed sensationalist parts and look, you will say, my mother, because you
get to put the sensational part. No, but I haven' t taken
him away because we really have a lot to spare one day, he took
a knife and did this not to his mother. The important thing here was
the opposite, everything else and then how to choose them. Well, well,
as I have dedicated myself to this. I' ve had a lot
of cases that I' ve forgotten about and a lot of cases that are
there when they sometimes greet me on this case effectively, and there' s
been a lot of cases that have marked my professional life, especially when I
haven' t really known what to do or how to do. The case
of Román, for example, the father this coming a session and tells me
what this case tells me, which is an adoption case, well, because
to me somehow, somehow I am good, are cases that you working on
this touch you then the selection was a little bit by themes, by themes
and for wanting to have the maximum of topics important to me addressed and then
in writing and with this out it was the writing that sent, that is,
there were cases that I have there written but that do not work,
that rereading it, you say it. This case struck me more than the
others, but it doesn' t work, I mean, it doesn'
t flow, it' s not true what I' m counting, but
it' s not credible. I don' t know then no, and
yet those cases that later reread him, you say Jolins, because I think
this is, that it has value. So well a little natural tea.
It' s taken a lot to write it down, the process has stopped,
you' ve had to change and remove something consciously. Saying this I
' m not gonna put it. Apart from those details you might consider tougher.
No, the writing has been very. Writing has been very vomitive,
which is what it is to capture each of the stories was very not the
pull. Sure takes a lot to put on. For me the most difficult
thing has always been to delete and not have an extension of the quijote left,
because I am of much talk as already seen, and then you start
to write, you will write, but then you have to delete to remove
superfluous things and focus only. But in the end there are seven stories,
very conscious and in a short space of time many things happen. It'
s not a 200- page novel every case. Then the hard part for
me has always been the process of eliminating and being alone with the part and
then I' ll tell you yes, there' s a case that'
s removed from the book. I' m telling you, not this.
I think this is okay, let me tell you. It' s you
and me in this situation. There' s no one else. I don
' t remember what number it is But there' s a case that'
s called rocking that if you open the book, it' s just a
couple of paragraphs and then it accompanies the case, that is, the technical
analysis, which is, don' t leave him orphaned and then rock talking,
It talks about a teenager who at an age that doesn' t suddenly
lose his father to his maximum reference figure. And that case is described,
it is developed, it was, in fact, seen by the publisher I
tell you about it and here now, in the first place, it was
edited, it was clean, it was put on, it was modeled,
it was about there, in all this writing process, there, the last
point is to hit the ok and then it is printed on the machines.
And I, the day before I took it off, had a cathartic or
cathartic moment. My wife and I and we reread it and there' s
nothing like having someone knows to your side that he loves you, that he
knows you and what he knows. And we said no to this, not
because it was too personal. And then there' s a point where,
well, there it is. In the end it was horrible to take it
off without boarding or I' m very happy to take it off. It
' s a different chapter and with those three paragraphs I tell you everything.
Besides, it' s true that it' s a sudden surprise that it
breaks your reading and makes you even more hurt. So I don' t
mean. I think it connects in a way that absence connects in a very
special way with all the people who can read you and who have lived something
similar or not. It seemed like a blow to me, not knowing the
reason behind it. I think he' s transmitting something. I don'
t know if it' s exactly what you wanted to transmit or not,
but it transmits something and it gets very discouraged, that is, I get
that part uff with hiccups. It' s true, because he plays.
No need, no need to decide many things to express such deep feelings,
something like the loss of a father or mother. Not sure, well,
it was the hardest page in the book to write. It' s the
shortest and yet, no doubt that' s not why it' s a
chest book discovered, it' s an open- hearted book and there it
is. There' s that chapter, just like the others, and we
can do interviews. I' ve seen Corbata and we' ve already talked
about aggressiveness, but we can do interviews or outreach or books like this,
which is a because there goes life, not there is yes, with the
despondent and how it has left you eh from what I see. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, it' s great I had some moments in
the book It' s all a roller coaster where you' re living the
most, a lot of emotions, and in some of them you have to
get some air because it' s a book about adolescence. But first we
' ve all been teenagers. And on top of that if you' re
a daughter and you' re a mother or you' re a father.
The levels of intensity and situations that can touch you, on the one hand,
on the other, because it can disarm you as you are a little
soft. Alejandro, we have to put on a churning. Nothing looks at
the baker in my neighborhood. I send you my regards. The baker so
had it, I don' t know what and then I' m going
to buy the bread and then he stops for a moment he looks at me.
They start to fill her eyes with tears and she tells me I can
' t read it because I' m a daughter' s father and then
she read it, then she finished it. And but, well, I
think it was the first time I realized a little bit because you, in
the writing process, are absolutely into it. No and there are times you
think and say well, this thing I' m writing is bullshit, this
is wrong, this I can' t convey what I want. There are
other times that you' re convinced that you' re going to get the
Nobel Prize in Literature, because you get it tangled up and you say this
is the best thing that' s ever been my God. But it'
s really horrible. You know, it' s kind of like I don
' t want to rewrite a book anymore, and then in the end you
say, and what idea do I have now for the third. But it
was the first time I' ve ever taken a little awareness of worth it
must be okay, because it' s really impacting them. I don'
t remember. Another father who comes and tells me is that my son has
an incredible consumption of joints and the chapter of the two draughts that is written
in another way, has impacted me a lot and I, at one point,
doubted a bit about that chapter. You know, I didn' t
know without getting him in, not getting him in, and just because I
had others. But in the end, the beauty within all these themes is
that each family is connected to one of the chapters, then enjoy the others,
but connect it. Ah look and I' ll tell you something else.
Tremendous story. Unfortunately I have unfortunately worked a lot on gender- based
violence. They also do not run penitentiary institutions. I was a co-
therapist of groups with adult aggressors and I have also taken many young girls to
juvenile courts, that the trajectories were seen in rather important levels of dependence,
of dynamics of violence in the couple, pregnancies that you see will occur and
that you work. And it is a brutal desolation to see the pregnancy finding
and to see the process this pain. And yet I have the misfortune now
that I know people who are affected by gender- based violence, women victims
of this atrocious issue and I think I get quite naked in the technical analysis
of this. It' s the worst face we have today in our society.
And then, however, leaving him the book and reading it the victim
of gender- based violence, look closely and tell me I loved the book.
I didn' t like the case of gender- based violence. Why,
then, because it' s not enough like what happens to us,
I mean, it seems more lighth You even know and this means that there
have been families who haven' t been able to read it the chapter.
If you remember correctly, start with a direct assault. We' re not
going to do spoilers, but it starts from boom directly and everything that happens
next and there are families who haven' t been able to read it.
And yet, there' s a victim of gender- based violence who told
me a jolen It' s much lower than what we live in. Therefore,
it is a book that removes enough for good or bad your reading.
Which one' s nice I look good to you, well, I'
ve got a lot of readings, because every chapter. Besides, every story,
every situation you take us to, opens different scenarios that I as a
mother, we could consider it as putting ourselves in the worst of many things
that can happen so that the audience understands us. You bring us some stories
in which many of our worst fears as fathers and mothers are pushed to the
limit. Not then already facing that like that, there are many readings there
when. But I want you, apart from my readings, to incentivize the
interest and curiosity of our audience. And why a family with children, with
normal normal situations, good day to day, that can have everything, but
that does not come up at all. So so limit let' s call
it. You should read this book and get into stories that you might hear
are listening to us and you' re going to look at. No,
I don' t need to. I don' t want to be scared
that I want to sleep well at night. Why do you think that or
because your children are two years old and are now there at a stage that
doesn' t even come up with everything you' re telling us. Pregnancy,
unwanted, addictions, gender- based violence. Well, then we'
ll go on with more things than but situations that already get us into the
worst. Why good, because they have to read a book before they give
us the Nobel Prize in Literature, not and have read the play before they
see it. Well, most of the families in the book at first were
normal families. And this is a very important key, that is, your
neighbor downstairs may be living in a situation exactly like the start of some of
these families. The family of the case one was a family and, moreover,
in fact very well with working standards and very well life. Then it
takes you to other places, the family of gender- based violence. I
have endeavoured, to portray very well that it is an absolutely non- standard
family in which, as a good colleague and reference of my work recently,
Alejandro tells me, to educate alone is not enough. Then there are many
external factors. You' ve done everything internal in education and, of course,
you' ve helped build strategies so that your children will then face the
outside ones. Don' t see a devil coming who' s like I
call the aggressor here. The devil comes to your daughter and crosses your daughter
and only with past education is not enough. There is that I think that
being able to see the end of the road, of one of the paths,
there is a lot of learning to know that along that path not if
we are going to see gender violence, to be able to extract the learning
of Eye that is not going to happen to us this, but it can
get there and it is not a invented case, it is not a sensationalistic
case of TV. Watch out that without my son, he' s starting
to use toxic substances. Look that you can end up there, I can
' t shit at the moment of these issues. Notice that, if that
is to say, in each one at the bottom of the book, what
it tries to convey beyond the entertainment it produces and the passion it produces and
everything that removes you emotionally. For me, that' s already an achievement.
I mean, if the reading has removed you a little emotionally and it
hasn' t been a good book, then I' ve read it very
well. The pirates are coming to rob this or they' re on the
ship, they' re taking the princess booty. I don' t know
what, I don' t know how many if it' s a book
that has removed you and that you in ten years' time see it and
say, how it happens to me Sometimes, this one I like and I
don' t remember. But I liked this one, I liked this book,
I don' t remember. What a story. That' s it,
that' s it. It' s an honor to me, and
it' s priceless. But if you can also build prevention, knowing what
you can go to, then today is fine. I have not tried to
do what, which is a very valid strategy of the DGT, the General
Directorate of Traffic, putting us into hyper- impact images. I didn'
t want to impact so much because, as I say, I didn'
t want to bring the blood, although there has been. But the idea
is this is one that strikes you to be able to do prevention, so
that when your daughter tomorrow brings you this boy and you your mother' s
instinct, you know, you say, because you can build your strategy and
not look the other way, well, this they say on TV but to
us not good, because it can happen to us. It is that,
moreover, as you address such diverse topics because I am remembering, all the
stories have something special, but I am remembering, for example, the story
of Román. It seems to me that you have said that it was called
the subject of adoption, things that, for example, are not spoken openly
too much is not a topic that is usually considered to the best topic of
adolescence, so it is speaking quite more, fortunately, but there are issues
that are not talked about, and it is, for example, when adoption
involves situations that are not the usual or the ones that were expected. And
I don' t know how you came up with it, for example,
when you approached that which is also very peculiar. That story has even a
certain touch of how your mystery story, not how you put it. That
part of him telling you or telling you he' s gonna tell you he
doesn' t want you to interrupt him. It is posed in a way
that already intrigues you, Already intrigues you, but as you go reading it
gives you a feeling of then also of uneasiness and of uy This does not
go well? This isn' t going well? This isn' t going
well? And the stories, I don' t want to make spoilers of
any endings, but how do we assume that there are stories that don'
t go well. That' s life. Not suddenly you' re a
teenager and suddenly your father dies. That' s not it. That doesn
' t have to happen. He' s not playing. What he touches
is that he dies. I don' t know when you' re sixty
or fifty. It doesn' t touch his death. It doesn' t
touch a child dying. Or it doesn' t touch that an adoption you
do with or that in this case they did with all the passion and love,
because it ends as best. It ends well, uh, maybe.
The reading is even very positive. That case depends on the prism from which
one looks, but life is not always. Today I go very philosophical,
but life is not always winning. Sometimes you lose me the free optimism and
come on, come on, go on, go on, yeah, well.
There are times when I don' t. No. There are times
when I don' t. There are times when families are torn apart.
There are times when there are families that success lies in simply being able to
live together, not in embracing us I wake you up with a love you
and with a pink donux every morning. There are no families in which success
is to have been able to survive among them to continue living and, well,
to be able to continue. Looking at the roman case, I didn
' t expect it, but Romana' s case draws attention to the way
you' re described. I' ll tell you two anecdotes. One day
I had to do a prom interview and I literally tell you here here,
you and me, and suddenly it didn' t come. I have interviews
to tell me I don' t arrive and then I say I don'
t stop the car and I do the interview recorded in the car. Then
the reporter just watch me don' t put out on screen and you can
be here, or you can be in the car. And in the car
the first thing that starts laughing and I looked at her and I said Holin,
I' m sorry if I already know it' s the car and
she says no it' s not that that' s where you already called
Rebo to Román. No, because the chapter starts like this. No and
I say Mother, or it will be that and then in the presentation,
if anyone reads it, they will understand it. Because I say this,
because the chapter starts with a phone call and in the presentation there was someone
in the presentation who took my microphone and asked me Alejandro everything very well.
I want to know if he' s here among us. Román said that
and in the presentation and I have followed a little bit this part of a
lot of respect in confidence and say a no, I answer it. There
was a game there, a tension game because well, when you read the
chapter, you also know, you know, because I mean all this,
because I keep so much confidentiality and mystery in this case. Yes, yes,
we have to leave them eagerly to our readers, our readers, because
it really is worth it, but it really impacts a lot by the way
the facts arise that also fascinates me, because surely, that is, it
will be, but it seems that you have invented it you know is like
me so much life will be action. I don' t tell you things,
I mean, all cases are real cases. I' m not going
to swindle anyone there. What happens is they' re like they' re
made up to protect and to do a pleasant reading. And so it'
s like I' m telling the case of Monica, Monica, because maybe
I' m talking about a monic, because she doesn' t wear glasses
and she has seven children. You read yourself and you know that you wear
glasses and that you don' t have seven children. But when you read
yourself you say but it' s me, I mean, it' s
me, you know, and then it goes a little along that line.
And Roman' s case is an adoption case. It' s a real
case, it' s a case you change men, of course, it
' s a case where, when you read it it was me, but
there are also small things that are mixtures of other cases. I take or
in some case the mother, because she' s not exactly that mother and
she' s another mother I' ve had in the case of Román.
The dynamics of John' s situation in my office have happened quite a few
times and I don' t know what I' m going to receive and
strange and much more bizarre things to say, but this is happening to me
here, where the House is, which is recording this situation to me,
which I am listening to this man, but he doesn' t want anything
else. But what do I do? I' ll take the money thanks
to God and how I take my house and say hello how about the affection
hello girls, not well, I did, it was a case to put
it, not to what deserves the dinner and what happens, that it is
also true that it leaves wanting more. I' m also telling you because
I really do, especially because it' s an issue that is rarely discussed
in the world of adoption. Perhaps because it also linked a little to the
other issues of situations. It' s hard to talk about what doesn'
t go well and what happened so it doesn' t go well. It
' s not easy to blame the rest of them. But in a family
situation in which there are obviously more factors, but that there is an adoption,
it does not go as you thought it had to go or within the
parameters that we have accepted as normal. Or what' s good. It
' s very difficult to assume. As a society, as fathers, as
mothers, no one comments on it in a then clear way. It doesn
' t take much to talk about it, and the adoption issue just caught
my attention, because it' s something we need to talk about and it
' s not going on yet. It' s pretty hidden. Doping is
very difficult technically to deal with in a professional way. I think it'
s the hardest thing to do. I' ve never wanted to approach adoption.
I' ve always had the adoption. I do, the underage player.
You choose which cases you' re carrying. They don' t come
to you in cases they give them to you according to the profile that you
are your bosses come, Alejandro these and they give you the cases to.
I don' t know that you have something very traumatic, but the reality
is that you' re choosing per accepting the cases they give you in the
intervention. Yes, you can do it in private office, but the reality
is that I have never looked for it because it is very difficult and because
there is a very deep psychological component and that almost always my work in cases
of adoptions at the end bring them to hand therapy, because they have a
very very complex bonding process, some attachment disorders often quite difficult, and this
should be exclusive territory of the clinical part of the psychologist. It is true
that I only see bad adoption cases, because I do what I do.
Then nobody comes to say hello to me Alejandro, we come to see you,
because our family is wonderful. This does not happen then I inside the
gaus bell if we had there. I see the small curve below is the
limit. That' s why, every time I see foster families and they
have kids in adoption and they' re doing well, I' m sorry
a lot. I apologize for them, but I go as in a research
team and then what you do And all right, and then I dive into
understanding and there are amazing adoption processes and with some levels. Also, in
fact, notice that I' m remembering two people I work with now,
who are foster mothers and who are wonderful. And besides, you see,
you don' t need to see it, you see it, you see
it. But the cases that I have led to doubling have always been very
limited, very limited and very difficult. And to the professional extremely limit.
I' ll tell you one quick thing or one time a kid that I
' m working on the juvenile game. Then I stood by this which I
explain of self- fulfilling prophecy, that they pursue doing it wrong so that
you end up abandoning him and in that way he can confirm that I am
worthless because they abandoned me when I was born. Then they do it wrong,
wrong, bad, bad for you to end up telling him so far
you stay. Then I remember a case that is in some way also there,
put in this case of Román, that I already stopped, I tried
myself and told Mira I' ll tell you something. Whatever you do.
I' m not going to modify your training measure, that is, I
' m not going to ask the prosecutor to intern you while the other one
looked at me was Antithetically, all the kids in the court measures come so
you don' t interfere with them, so that you don' t mean
them, so that you approve them in quotation marks and I told this one
a do as bad as you want, that I' m not going to
do it in any way. It was a me I' m not leaving
you. You' re playing hook- up and whatever you want, I
mean, hit me if you want. And that brought about a change without
me knowing it, but it was very impulsive, a change in this boy,
very radical, of look, of positioning, of I no longer know
how I do with you, if I do all the bad that I can
and do not internalize. And that intervention that day gave me a click.
It is very important, but adoption is very difficult and at the same time
very precious. As you were talking, I was thinking that this book,
apart from attracting very diverse stories, tells us a lot about you as a
professional. A lot. It is true that in the previous account you also
talk about your work, but this one in a way that could go unnoticed
because the stories are shocking, but it is not. In fact, it
' s a very direct approach to your work and everything you have to do.
I don' t know how you handled that question, because it seems
to me that you' re talking about teenagers, but you talk a lot
about how you work with teenagers. It' s been super difficult, mónica,
pretty difficult. Well, I' ve taken a lot away because I
think sometimes I was getting into issues that it' s not so much about
talking about me but about them. But then there have been other times that
I' ve already said, but I need to be honest. Then all
of a sudden, you reread things. Writing this book is a long process
and then, at two months you revisit the technical part of the one and
I read and say, but I say as I say that when I get
home and my daughter tells me I have a wound and I come to the
nose of having heard brutal aggressions. No, like I say this, but
it' s reality. No, and then nothing has cost me a lot,
really. But, on the other hand, then it has been very
rewarding in things like this one of yours not that you say now or some
families of mine in office that of course have read it and come and say
that it is you, that it is all, not everything, and indeed,
nothing like I say look at me I love music as a young and
as a teenager and I have rocking spirits. I still loved rock and roll,
you know, and when a band made a brutal first record, everybody
had a hard time doing a second. I, in my case, didn
' t do a brutal first, but I knew that I wasn' t
going to replicate my first book and that I wanted to dare and that if
life had given me the opportunity to write a book, you know, you
write a book in your house, on your computer, you send it and
then it appears in the mall. There, put, this is a step
and then I said good maybe. Never again, I write more books,
because it can happen. So I' m gonna stay calm and comfortable and
I' m gonna do something. I haven' t had any pressure from
the publishing house in any way, I mean, I haven' t been
vetoed at all. There hasn' t been a paragraph I' ve been
told. This is very heavy, Alejandro, because the book, in fact,
starts with a phrase that already says fuck. There' s a swear
in the first one, in the first line of books you know and I
said well this I' m going to want it back and then I'
m super happy and comfortable. I think the word is like the taste of
it, so there it goes and, on the other hand, with fear.
With fear because I get a little undressed Sometimes effectively, what I do
in intervention or how I get wet sometimes in what happens to me, because
there is a part that I tell that I' m actually in interview sometimes
and I pass thoughts around here that I can' t take them off and
that there they come. I' ve even been told sometimes, because I
' m honest, with you and there are times I' m here with
you, we' re not here now You and I are talking and suddenly
you get crossed and I, maybe, have a catastrophic situation and I remember
that I haven' t bought toilet paper God and Monica didn' t take
the toilet paper out of my head and maybe I' m working with Román.
No, but nothing good, because this is true. It' s
honest, that' s it and it might be fatal or not, I
don' t know, but there it is. It' s true.
I didn' t remember it was so sweet of me. A lot,
it' s true and it' s true that it' s not the
first thing you think about when you read it, uh, because it'
s true that because stories are so powerful, all the messages, the tips
you give. But it is true that there is the background. That'
s me working. It' s me at the office. This is what
happens and helps the reader put us in your skin in a way, of
course, very well. So I' m not behind the pages of the
book that, obviously, bring us a little closer to what it can be,
to what you can get to see and to see how difficult your work
is. Not really, but it' s true that you don' t
have a very empathetic look, very tender, that gives us hope, because
it could be a look that well, then I' m the fucking master
pardon, but all these people I' ve saved. And it is not
a book of the Saviour Alexander who has brought all these people out of misery,
but this is what has happened, what can happen, what could have
happened or what has not happened or what and I put it here and you
draw your conclusions. I give you my thoughts on subjects that are of course
of interest to us. Education, on gender- based violence, on prevention.
There' s a lot of prevention, lots of tips on where to
look, where to put a little eye. But there is also a lot
of humor. I' m even thinking about one of my favorites is the
conversation of teenagers in the friends' bank. Really, really? Yeah?
Yeah? In the booth yes? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah?
Yeah? Yeah? It' s one of the ones I liked most,
precisely because of the weight of those powerful messages, that it costs a little
at first. That' s four kids. In addition, so posed in
a half theater way, so with dialogues, and I liked it very much.
I liked it a lot and it has an important weight the message and
at the same time it has a load of is relaxed. Break the most
dramatic part a little, but leave you there too. I threw it at
the dukes and you eat it straight. Look at this thing you just said.
It' s fair, smooth, exact. That one and you take
it. No, it' s yours. Yeah. Yeah? Yeah?
Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Wow, I love this thing you said.
Then it' s all right. Well done, got the one- day
object. Look at working a lot technically on cases. What happens in the
workers who do case analysis is that you go expose a case and then the
worker always counts the strengths of skills where in finta and I always saw a
lot of self hype in the analysis of the case. So what I did
is clear, I transmitted in a referral to mental health and there we saw
that psychopathology was and then I pauté and I don' t know what,
and I always separated that a little bit like reality, that' s not
to say it' s okay. But in this precisely while I wrote it,
talking to some colleague, you' re going to do technical analysis of
the cases. No, and then I said no, man, I can
' t do a technical analysis of the case. And besides, they'
re going to read it, fathers and mothers. No. So nothing.
I was just being honest with me. I think some have been long,
others have been short, others are more technical, others are smoother, but
well, like life itself, no, but the analysis serves to actually see,
that is, that it' s not self- pumping you know or
precisely if you realize that that' s why it leaves the book a little
so removed. There' s no case of flowers at the end and amazing
kisses, because I' m trying to try. On the other hand,
listen to the one in the booth. You let me tell you something.
The one in the booth. The one in the booth is a tribute to
my three friends of the soul and it' s the four of us on
some park benches. And the real message, beyond all the technical content of
other things, the real message, at one point is yes, they are
cafres, but there are times when they don' t have such stupid conversations.
I mean, there are times when those four you see there can even
have conversations. I don' t understand what the fuck you' re saying.
No forgiveness for swearing, but of oysters, even they themselves understand us
some of them. But what do you say, man, and there'
s something else there, and I' m gonna put it as spoiler.
This time I do, because I feel like it and I am with you
here and in my book it is one of the chapters that most project if
you pay attention to admiration to parents. I mean, there' s a
point where you can see the admiration of the father. And I say that
sometimes I' m a miracle witness because in session and it' s a
shame that it' s not recorded, you know, obviously, but it
' s a guy when, suddenly, after all he has with the parents,
he doesn' t and he picks up and defends him And yes,
but my father and then you say oysters here, yes, there' s
no, and when this on top, it happens in session with the father
next door, well you' re a mother. I am the father of
two girls and I with all the hard work I am and the extreme cases
I see then my little girl who is two years old, now I don
' t have one that she has in a moment of recording this podcast.
One is nine years old and has two. The two look at me when
I swing and smile at me and it' s all gone, you know,
I' m dead, I mean, it breaks me whole and the
older one looks at me out of the cabbage and tells me I don'
t know what. And it just breaks me. So when a father lives,
it' s an office. Nothing is super magical and I think it
' s one of the moments, i e, you get your heart hooked,
i e, there' s one of the phrases one of the guys
says when he tells the other he' s complaining about one of them from
his mother and the other or his father. I don' t remember so
much, but I think it was from the mother and then one of them
tells her already, but your mother is there. And that, that'
s for me, that' s one of the more things and that'
s also in the first book Jode that we also talk about that presence of
parents, that many times we get very upset because we want to do it
right, we want to get to everything, we want not to do it
too bad and it' s not to be that you say it on many
occasions, but in that sentence, that dialogue, it makes it very clear
and it' s so hard, so beautiful at the same time you said
it well, so hard and so beautiful the time you look at many times
how much this is something that I talk about the most magical moments are when
in office you and a son of yours that you carry with me, with
any of my companions, from the courthouse or any professional that sells families.
No, in this case it' s me because I see it and all
of a sudden I' ll get rid of some really bizarre questions that you
say, but it' s not like I' m a daughter. I
can' t do this to myself, you can' t steal from me,
you can' t assault me, you can' t touch me in
places where you know it hurts me more. And yet, months later he
sits down and looks at me Alejandro with you in front of me and he
tells me he looks at me with all the bad things that I did to
him at the point of her, because, in fact, going away,
you know horrible and she never abandoned me is always there. It' s
when they say it, because they say it about the soul, and when
the mother can' t hold it, that is, you tell that to
your son, and you break because you actually get the sense of how clear
I wasn' t going to be, even if you did that to me,
but how I' m not going to be here with you. And
that is profoundly healing for the child and the mother. For the mother,
those who do not have a good prognosis are those who have no one who
is with them, they do not have a wound and they do have violent
or aggressive behaviors. From another point, from the point of I' m
broken. I' m not having a hard time. It' s a
horrible phase. I don' t understand myself with my parents. I'
m not doing well. It' s not broken. No, and that
reads a lot too. It looks but indeed very harsh, but a beautiful
one. When a boy says this, he does not hear and accept everything,
he forgives everything in this relationship fathers, sons, mothers, sons,
daughters, is all forgiving. I don' t know, I don'
t know, and there are times that it' s even okay, that
it' s not forgivable, I don' t know. There depends a
lot on each one and I' ve seen the whole truth. I think
against more, I believe what I have seen that with more balanced tra,
there is you, against more worked and worked you have as a person,
as a mother, the more you do not know your weaknesses and your strengths.
When you know and are well, you are able to forgive more.
If I don' t see much of myself, father and mother who at
first gets a lot into revenge unintentionally and there are very dark dynamics, because
the boy assaults, but he attacks almost always in a reactive way, because
he interprets that you like him as a father and then he attacks you.
You have to have a lot of packaging and a lot of self- knowledge
and a lot of knowing to be to understand that dynamic and, therefore,
not to fall into it. Of course you are this viscereality and there are
dynamics that generate non- forgiveness. I don' t know if the word
is forgiveness or understanding it or fitting it in or worth it assimilating or seeing
a higher interest that is it. Let' s go forward or it'
s oblivion. I don' t know what it is. But it is
true that all those who travel and are able to take those steps forward then
have a much healthier reconciliation than in the end we are the parents and if
you project revenge. It' s usually difficult, but they' re very
difficult issues. I' ve dealt with cases Look at a mother, for
example. This is when we' re here so it can be seen that
it' s not cases that come out in the book a little girl who
gives a mother' s finger a whore. It' s your daughter so
fucking a finger. Now you' re not born another finger anymore. Okay,
you' re out of finger for your whole life. And a mother
in whom I remember perfectly how she counted, besides how we omitted that,
told the understanding of the moment and the understanding that she also had some accident
and we pulled forward. Of course, I was looking at more. I
remember that I was young, then younger than I am now, but I
looked and said Holy God, I don' t know if I would forgive
being cut off by my fingers you know, I mean, a finger anymore.
And that mother, without wanting another one of the cases that come out
in the book, because we would have stayed only in this not sensationalist part.
But that mother gave a lesson, I mean, but it wasn'
t no, it' s okay, no, it wasn' t a
total understanding and she was dead with her daughter to get her out. Not
without a finger. Not this saying of me would give anything for you,
for somehow forgiveness for humor, is not that. But that mother did give
me a titanic lesson, and there were also other parents who with something lighter,
because the car is scratched and never forgive him to see said take the
car at night, drunk scratch his car and this has been uneasy for many
months. What do you think uff because it leaves me because besides, we
are not prepared, that is, I think it does not enter our mind,
in our possibilities, that that can happen. And I think many times
you don' t talk about it, precisely because where you' re going
to, that is, who you' re going to tell that your son,
daughter, is tea, is mistreating. No, that doesn' t
count. Sure, sure, look, you don' t usually count these
four factors. You don' t count money, sexuality, politics, or
the problem with your children. It' s like four things that we don
' t tell each other, not because they' re like a lot reserved
for our intimacy, our people, very close, confident. But if there
is a problem with a child, usually because there is still a small stigma
of guilt and clear, then well that is to say, however, it
is the number one suffering we have. I remember a father who came to
my sessions and said to me, Mira, Alejandro, I don' t
understand. I, in my company, give an order and the 100 workers
comply. He doesn' t do it at home. My son at work
I give an order a hundred guys, I get it. I get home
and my son doesn' t comply with the order. Well, that face
of yours tells her all the same message. No and it doesn' t
happen to you from your professional perspective and everything you see and what you'
ve seen in this book. When they tell you, because a situation we
call normal it is worth understanding me, because with an adolescence it involves movement,
because that looks of contempt situations slashes such normal and perhaps someone in front
of you loose. That' s what I' m looking at. I
can' t handle my son. My daughter' s getting out of hand
like this, and you' re missing that look from my idea. He
traveled you Gaul. That' s nothing. Don' t look look.
I am. I do a job that' s a lot of tension,
you know, a lot of tension, a lot of pain, a lot
of explicit violence. I' m really stressed out by the kids. Besides,
it looks like a lie because I swear to you, you look like
the most relaxed person in the world. No, but so good, he
does not, but I mean, I' m relaxed, I' m
alive, but I really like having fun, you know, I' m
very humorous. I' m very young with my daughters. It is not
the typical phrase of games, but I like a lot to be a child
and play and with my friends that I have of adolescence, of those of
the booth, not changed of names and such we are still children. And
then I usually, when I' m already on the street and I see
situations like that, I don' t prefer to hear myself, I mean,
I don' t want to know much, because in the end it
' s work. She' s not a girl who tells her in line
the other day in the English court under was a wonder, the teenage girl
telling her mother very derogatory things and another saying jolie. I want to get
out of here. Well, I want to work harder, I mean,
I don' t want to hear the same thing, I don' t
need air, no, but I had to swallow the tail and in the
end it' s what happened that I loved. I said take macho how
bad professional I am, but made a bad hypothesis suddenly come to the counter
and it was the mother who stole a lot of things. The mother put
the thing in, the blocks and the way she paid with the girl and
they both left and I looked and said if I have much to learn.
Not yet as a professional, but usually not in but no or if some
friendship tells you nothing I like, but I prefer to have fun, no,
and then I already entered my office. I focus and we' re
going to work and it was a key that I want to share with you.
The kids want to have a good time You know in session. This
is something you often say to parents with the song. I can' t
put it now, but I would give to put it in the final program
see see it proposed. They want to have fun, they want to be
fine, they want to be relaxed, they want to be in peace and
then they want to work there. What happens is that many come and stress,
challenge you. I' ve got a lot of challenging guys to see
where you' re gonna fall or hold on or not. But in the
end, deep down, what they want is to be okay and when they
' re okay and when they have fun. I' ve spent so many
minutes of session listening to horrible music. You know this, Punchi puche I
tell them again the washing machine uncle. But in the end they want to
be fine, in a circle of trust, of knowing you don' t
get that way. Let' s see today' s main emotion what it
was. She' s not a mother open up to your house, but
it' s a job of a lot of tension and, unfortunately, it
doesn' t happen to you on the streets that lately we see a lot
more kid, the kid, very uncontrollable. There are also other times that
we see beautiful things. Well, as I tell you, I prefer the
one you stole. It was the mother that I loved that. Robbery.
The mother left me with pictures saying take already I was messing with the teenager.
Hey, you imagine the teenagers were saying mom you' re not gonna
steal that, uh, don' t steal and it was the mother at
the end that they might have been. It might be that we explain ourselves
a lot in teenagers and it' s not logical. But with this,
for example, with the theme of screens, you will surely come worried families
with screens, screens and bulbs. If the screen is number one of the
problems today in session. We didn' t have this in two thousand five.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey the reason you consulted one is three
years old. I can' t take his cell phone because he' s
getting up. Let' s remember that my cases are more serious, but
he gets up. And he tells me to take it off, you take
it off, and then the father tells you I can' t, that
' s because taking it off is going to be fighting him, struggling with
him and struggling with your 13- year- old son. Watch out he
doesn' t have two anymore. No, and what it does to you
as a father, to go down into the sand, to remove it,
to try to take away your son by force. It' s not that
it' s a dissociation. Pissicles call you dissociating. No, on the
one hand, it' s what I want most in my life and,
on the other hand, to use force to take something away from you,
because be good if the screens are being the most horrible today. But if
you give me thirty seconds to count on a new one so incredible that it
has nothing to do with screens, but yes, in the reference there was
a girl in court. I' ll remember every time he came with wine
with Grandma in the player. I laugh because it' s funny. Hey,
please, I can give good grandma. You' ll see, let
' s see, you' ll see, I' ll get the girl.
Will you see? You' ll see and I' ll get the
girl with Grandma. I didn' t already know them. I was working
to be clear so that you can see that, like everyone else, there
are cases at last and this little girl the grandmother came fatally and the girl
didn' t even with her eyes full of blood very continous judgmental rope to
sit by. She had been working with them for a while and then the
little girl, very short, very small in the game fourteen years. It
' s small because it' s the age of criminal responsibility. The fourteen
is the minimum. Not with less than fourteen you can' t be at
the game. This girl had fourteen which already means a lot, but with
fourteen in court means that duties take a omen tour and she came with Grandma.
So, Grandma had asked the girl that for some reason I don'
t remember, that I couldn' t go out on the weekends. In
fact, it was safe to protect her from herself and then, suddenly,
she comes bloodied by Grandma. I had punished her. Why does Grandma tell
me I don' t understand her? He intervenes They know they can'
t talk. I manage the word shift, but that ends up being a
rosary of the aurora and they appreciate it. Besides, they don' t
look at you and say Alejandro, it' s my turn. She won
' t shut up. No, yeah, it' s your turn.
She can' t talk now. Look, the parents have to shut them
up a lot. Also good a kiss for parents, that we are all
parents. Then, please, I then came the fatal, bloody girl,
just like in the eyes, such that Grandma had punished her without going out
and told me Grandma Alejandro, you had punished him without going out and came
to me at 1: 00 in the morning. She tells me, uh,
the mother at 1: 00 in the morning and then the girl I
saw since she almost hit me. And there you have to read very quickly
and you have to see that girl needs to talk. I can' t
keep her 20 minutes quiet, not because she has something to tell me.
Usually you don' t see much and then I stop the grandmother who had
the reel for a while longer than I stop her and tell the girl to
see what happens and then I break to cry the mine. I think it
escaped in insult, but grandma, uh, but you, what would you
know if when I got there you were still at the disco. Then Grandma
looked at me, said well away I like to dance then and the other
yes, you arrived at seven o' clock in the morning from the discotheque.
I loved that, uh, Carla was already right about God. I
got here at 1: 00, but this one was at 7: 00
in the morning at the disco and I was punished well, I was right
both of them. The question here is if I' m not a referent,
I can' t ask you for anything. I know I can'
t ask my daughter that well, my daughter doesn' t use it,
but my 16- year- old daughter not to watch Tiktok all the videos,
as they tell you. If my dad watches all the YouTube videos,
we' re also sitting there wasting time exactly the two of us. Okay.
It is also not about bonism, because nothing has to do with the
use of an adult with a child. But yes, we do have a
problem. Everyone except for speech. I got you in, but it just
got to my soul, Grandma at seven in the morning dancing the disco.
Eye deserved it to her, not maybe. What happened to me is that
I was envious that I wasn' t in the disco my mother is that
they make you want to tell us so many stories. Alejandro, really,
that is a dagger so much to think about and I like it so much
because it is very far from the breeding manual, do this and you will
get what is good, because by marketing, because life is like this also
because it is demanded. We are becoming more and more used to it,
not and that is often asked for. The parents ask you, they will
ask you, Alexander, give me the recipe so that this does not happen
completely. And of course listening to You is a catalogue of this. It
' s life. Life, life? Life? Life? Life? Life?
And yet we will continue to ask you, Alexander, how we managed
not to reach these chapters that you have written. What' s the key.
Recently with tea that I too Claudico know I also my little daughter asks
me I don' t know what ah look the last mita. A while
ago, two years ago. Then we were in the shower. I was
bathing my daughter. Then I' d be seven six, I don'
t know how to help him take a shower and at some point I don
' t know why. The older one who is like an angel fallen from
heaven, because he had a bad day or something not and then we were
there and I, that is Malicia, Alicia Shampoo, clarify what you have
everything. Then she who doesn' t know, then knocks on the usual
door, the bathroom. I say what, and he says uncle you haven
' t read the book and I say what book yours is oh Liens,
uncle of every day. So whole, I say, my mother, what
a reason. Not good, because why do our children connect us with the
most instinctive, the most animal and where I, surely you meon, get
into a little hole in my house and tell me Alejandro, no, this
no, and I get into yours, but because you are not linked.
It' s just that they' re my daughters, you know, and
they' re already in a lot more dramatic situations like the ones we'
ve told in the book or something here, so nothing. It' s
just that we just lose a little bit of the north and that' s
what we want most in our lives. It is us, because it is
half of us, our children, and we see ourselves in them and they
know the responsibility we have, because they look at us every thing we do
and then it is the most beautiful thing there is and, therefore, what
hurts us the most. No, but if there isn' t, there
' s really no magic recipe, you' re not sure. Yeah,
and if you find it, you give it to me. Please, look
at that You didn' t run away. It is very clear and anyone
who says that he has it, lies and I am sure that those who
are listening to us when this chapter is published, that they will be thinking.
This man will reach the adolescence of his daughters and that will come and
we will want to hear him see what he thinks of everything he is saying.
Look, I took my daughter, little girl of two, the other
day in the park, and I picked her up, and I told her,
you' re gonna ruin my business. You know, please calm down,
yeah, well, sure, but it' s beyond doubt. There
is no doubt that I will have to pass in my moments and I will
pass them now with the eldest. I go to the teacher' s tutoring
and it' s not all perfect. Of course not, and indeed they
will have to be dealt with. And it' s true that there'
s a plus in which you know that can happen no and that you have
that look. My wife, in addition, is a psychologist, that is,
at the house of the two poor ones of mine they have to do
this already mom, that psychologist, but, of course, that will pass
the interviews, your daughters have them. You know that true in a few
years the chamo totally, totally, totally poor ones of mine, to say,
is also the book, the free one or the reality about my parents.
You imagine, yes, yes, yes, of course this has here
and this is written there in stone and then it will come to our children
to look at us. Okay, but I' m gonna tell you one
more thing. You cut me off, please, and you drive not this
yes, the older one is in one way and I thought, I thought,
I was convinced for seven years that she was an only child, that
she is so good, because we are excellent, not clear. But then
came the second silvia wine, which came sought dear we come wine and then
one realizes that genetics long ago being a wonder also as a child in every
way, but has another very different temperament. Where one is more angry,
the other may be more blood, where another is more melancholy, the other
may be more whatever it is, not phlegmatic or such. But we each
have our temper. So, if I had been left alone with the first
one, I think I would have always thought I was amazing if I had
been left alone with the second one, I would have thought my mother,
how difficult this is, no, what a move. Well, I think
I' ve also learned something very nice there, and it' s that
I notice that each, every circumstance, and then there are also very difficult
external factors, our children' s couples. It' s going to be
very difficult for my daughters' boyfriends, but well, the couples of our
sons, the friendships that so much makes us suffer as parents of our daughters,
of our alcohol sons That is, there is so much external factor that
nothing. This is almost a feat and I don' t want to forget
the subject of the College, the subject of teachers. One of the chapters
that I also find very significant, because we have talked about the whole interview
of parents and your role as a professional, about the professionals that help the
family, the adolescent. But we don' t do this alone. The
teenager has his family, in the best cases, present his environment of his
own friendships and then he is also in the educational environment, which is fundamental
and you tell it from a different point of view, which also helps a
lot to put on a little bit, a chapter in two shoes of that
person and that also eye, is that we can not take off his weight,
because he has our teenagers. They spend a lot of hours in high
schools and schools, in schools and so on and there a lot of things
happen and to be attentive to that also seems very relevant and I think it
is very important that you have also included it also as well as having had
your experience in that regard. No, I' m working with Colles as
an outsider now. I' m going to work with the boys. That
' s what I do, but in the two thousand and twenty I left
my job as a technician, as a probation officer and accepted against all odds,
a job as a primary school teacher And that was supposed to me,
that is, I don' t put my hand here first the unconditional love
of my fellow teachers, incredible of families and children and then you will tell
me where the problem was. Well, the program based on me isn'
t that it' s tremendously difficult to be a teacher. It is necessary
to master the matter, to master the behaviors of the children, to master
the attitudes of the children, the differences of aptitudes now with mp mastering also
the whole tug of the families, to dominate the internal organization, to go
to the para in the résumé with the other and then you already at five
o' clock in the afternoon that I was leaving, that is to say,
I preferred to return to the juvenile court with the level of explicit violence
and not to be in that, that was a balm, but that I
did not control. That' s where I learned a lot of good.
This is a vocation the teacher when he becomes a trade and bases himself on
money, of course, something fails, not the unfortunate thing is that he
should be otherwise recognized, but this we have already talked about many times.
But it' s titanic to be a teacher, and then he comes to
me, and it happened a lot to me to come to the mother to
pick up a little girl. Then the girl came out with a bad face
and looked at me. I wasn' t wondering today and I wasn'
t telling me, man, I' m amazing in class. I mean,
you should have seen him. It' s been brutal. No,
and so did another kid who was suddenly dating Daddy Mommy, and I was
looking at him Daddy Mommy. Teo or the repertoire of swearing you know Daddy
Mommy, this is what' s wrong, man, so good. It
was an amazing learning, a wonder. I now left him and went back
to mine that my teenagers, my office, my vacation Roman. He didn
' t convince you. No. No. Don' t you? Don
' t you? Don' t you? Don' t you? Don
' t you? Don' t you? No, I didn' t
leave anything for you. I prefer work and what it was. He really
gave it to you amazing, one of the most important jobs he had neither
learning. Little time, but learning and fortunately I left it. I think
you know well with good recognition. And such, but no, I,
no, no, no, no, I didn' t, and the
last episode, the last chapter, I told the teacher I had in mind
when it came to portraying him. Then I read it and he thanked me.
And so, but above all, it' s me, pretty,
it' s me going into school, it' s me, because of
the inability not to reach all the mails that come to you and so I
also tell you here now I' ve almost fired, I guess, but
nothing is once again, that man of yours. The truth is that it
is a chapter too, because that gives you a feeling of having read many
stories, but at the same time having accompanied you to IT in them,
not to a single interlocutor. And it' s a reading that' s
pulled, that is, with how hard it can be, because there are
times when your breathing stays there, it' s cut off, it'
s read from the pull. Super good. Written by Alejandro. So,
thank you very much. It was made literary criticism, but it really is
a luxury, a delight and it leaves you, well, yes, it
leaves you cut, but it really is worth it. I' m convinced
that, after this wonderful talk that we' ve had our audience, you
' re going to run to your neighborhood bookstore, ojicharlo and ask for it.
And, of course, I also recommend that you do with the previous
one, because it comes a little bit as in order, that is,
but you have in one not as it is a little bit unguided, but
yes more or less as much, a little more aseptic, which also has
very interesting parts and a little more pers because if it wasn' t you,
if it wasn' t personal, because it is true that it has
a seal. First you get a little bit of the base and then you
get fat, get ready or read straight into the second real teens from within
and stay good enough. Now I' ve seen this. How ordo holy
Monica can sell you span you can sell also correct packaging and a tipip with
a pack, with a linden. I have gone ideas to the publishing house
a linden and so for parents with sensitive heart and high tension. Yes,
yes, I, that' s why I recommend at the beginning of the
book that you read one episode per day I integrated calm and so or so
people who did tell me, I didn' t take it and I don
' t care. That' s what you or I say in one afternoon,
in one sitting there I was already telling you that these are from the
books you have to read from the pull. That' s right. I
' m not very sorry, you have to take it out for a little
while, but you read it from the pull. Heed me very, very
recommendable, I had no doubt, but after reading it as I recommend it,
no doubt and of course, thank you very much, Alexander. What
am I going to tell you if it' s a pleasure to chat with
you for how generous you are always, for the stories you tell us and
everything in the background, that I like a lot, because you don'
t want to tell a lot of things, but you leave them there and
it' s a delight. It' s a delight to chat with you
all the time. Thank you very much. You and I both know what
it' s cost us, but hard and hard, and as we'
ve been here, deligate her to be with you forever and I want to
thank you. Also, in one part, I think it' s very
important because of your rigor you know and your work and quality content, not
in what you broadcast, but today, for example, it' s not
the same. Approaching a talk with you about and how about your teen book,
how good is not what you say worth ok Oh Jolinés. That requires
an investment of time and of wanting to make things right and there we go
without a doubt. That' s why I' m here with you again
and I' m gonna be all you tell me, but whatever you want,
but he' s really super grateful. It' s wonderful to talk
to you and the rigor you have. Anyway, well, the audience is
already tired of us. This is where you' re fired, since we
already know that you love each other very much that the most people could hate
each other, but that' s not the case. Another thing clear,
yes, it is. And besides, it' s lucky that the luck
that I have with this job is that I can talk to people I learn
and I have fun and I can recommend it. You' re the luxury
of recommending that you read to someone you' re going to learn. Sure,
everyone who listens to me will learn reading, Alexander and you will enjoy
it. Then you listen to me and write to me. Okay then I
' ve seen it, Alejandro, nothing looks at how long we' ve
been and I' ve told you before we start, no more than forty
- five minutes. I knew you wouldn' t. I knew that was
a utopia, but well, I said the same thing. If I say
it your project and it manifests, not like now. The young people will
demonstrate a lot and manifest, but they knew it, not true, because
I have among myself in order that in the notes of the program I will
leave the information of this wonderful book, also of the first, with the
link to the program, to the two previous programs and to the space and
mother sphere, where Alejandro also intervenes, and I am convinced that we will
speak again and we will continue to talk and nothing that goes well with you,
that you will be very lucky with this book, that I am convinced
that it will go very far and that it will excite many people. Thank
you from the heart. We' re leaving I' ll leave you to
the gea fan song. I' m going to put it later, since
they take my rights away, but I' m going to put it on
because I played so that you have it in mind that in teenagers and also
parents and they were mothers. We just want to have a good time.
We' re not going to Bye- bye, nudity.