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Surge on the Ball. Hey,
welcome back to I on the Ball here

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on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm
Steve, He's Jay, and I hope

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Jay has breaking news. This is
I on the Balls on Fox Sports fourteen

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fifty. I do some some interesting
stuff going on today, but I want

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to start with this. I want
to I want to look. I'm I'm

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that guy that when somebody gets a
lot of attention and is, you know,

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kind of way up there, I'm
like, Okay, I'm ready for

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the upset to happen. Right.
I was rooting for Colorado State on Saturday,

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you know, And I don't know
why I'm like that. I'm just

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always rooting for the underdog. And
so, you know, the game happened,

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double overtime, Colorado wins the game. You gotta give it up for

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them for doing what they did to
come back and win the game. But

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in the course of that and course
of the game, there was that hit

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on track A hunter knocked out of
the game. He's gonna miss three or

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four weeks last rated Deliver. We
talked about that yesterday. So today or

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or maybe it was yesterday in his
press conference, Deon Sanders comes out or

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I think once today comes out,
he does. Look, the hit happened.

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We forgive him. He's a good
player, he played hard. You

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know it was an unfortunate hit.
You know he got a fifteen our penalty

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four. Come on, you know
he's getting death threats. You know,

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son jackass posted his phone number and
his family's address on social media so that

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people can do whatever they're gonna do. All that stuff. And we've talked

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about this before. Casey's scouring that
the UFA kicker who got death threats after

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missing a game winning field goal against
the USC in the twenty fourteen season,

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or maybe it's a game time field
or whatever. You know that these things

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happen, and it's stupid. It's
the stupidest thing you could possibly do.

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Dion went in and said, I
just hope it wasn't our fans. Well,

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of course it was your fans.
Well it wasn't Colorado States fans,

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right, it wasn't the Arizona fans, It wasn't anybody else. It was

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your fans and and everybody's got those
fans. We've seen him. Uh but

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you know, give it up for
Dion for just trying to defuse it a

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little bit as much as he could, you know. But you know,

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when you gotta have guys like that
said, we got people like that,

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there's not anything you can say to
him, most usually to say, you

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know, the guy who put his
ad dress up isn't gonna say oops,

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I'm sorry. I didn't need to
do that, right, you know,

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the guys whoever did that just an
idiot. I don't to my point,

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if it were happened to me and
my sons or whatever, I'd go after

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and I'd go after him if it
was capable of doing it. Yeah,

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I legally, yeah. I mean, at some point you gotta say enough

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enough enough. That's pretty serious,
sty, it's your stuff when people start

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as you say, look and are
those death threats real? Probably not,

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I don't be stupid, but but
what the hell are you doing? Right?

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Right? Right? What the hell
are you doing? So anyway,

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and you never know if they're you
never know, you do never know.

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I mean, this this country is
nuts and stuff like that. So so,

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but you know, good good on
for dion and for doing in his

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right. He was. He was
very I saw most of it. You

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heard me playing it as as we
were preparing for the show. Very contrite,

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very low. Sounded low key like
he did. And it's funny how

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he addresses the media because you know, I'm gonna meet you, good to

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see you, gotah blah blah,
you know whatever. Very cordial. But

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that's just kind of well, he
will see, we'll see. We'll see

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Monday. Yeah, we'll see monday. How it goes. Maybe he wins

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the game, who knows. Maybe
you imagine if they win this game,

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well, the media go back,
Well they were twenty one earlier. I

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think this will be different obviously,
but uh, we'll see. Yeah.

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But anyways, good good could be
one of my picks. So I can't

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see you what all right? Big
news in baseball show you shoot a statement?

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He had a he had a surgery
this morning. They call her a

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procedure. There was a statement made
through through his his agent, and here's

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here's the meat of it. It
says that the ultimate plan, after deliberation,

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show Hey, was to repair the
tissue at hand and to reinforce the

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healthy ligament in place. All addy
viable tissue for the longevity of the album,

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and this is a throwing arm.
I expect full recovery and he'll be

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ready to hit without any restrictions come
opening the day of twenty twenty four,

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and do both hit and pitch come
twenty twenty five. So it sounds like

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he's not pitching next year, which
if you have Tommy John surgery today,

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you're out for a year. You're
not pitching. But then he'll be able

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to hit, and then he'll be
able to pitch back in twenty twenty five.

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Now, let's understand that a part
of this is he's in a contract.

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He's a free agent. You know, is somebody going to give him

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the six hundred million dollars that he
was certain to get had this not happened.

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That's gonna be interesting to see what
happened. No, I get it,

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I get it. Would you probably
not? Right? Would I give

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him the six hundred million? No? Which because his value? How much?

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How much would you give four hundred
fifty? Because he's he he there's

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there's certain guys. I mean,
if there's certain guys, you'd pay and

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you have maybe to go pay to
watch right to see to get their joy.

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You know that guy, Uh probably
Steph Lebron. Yeah yeah, football

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wise, it's hard to do it
football wise because because it Mookie Bets Mahomes,

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Mahomes a guy like Mookie Bets or
you know some of those guys you

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know back in the day. Uh, you know the last real big guy

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was Noel Ryan for me back in
Texas. Yeah, but that's that's I'm

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a cheap bastor too. You hate
sports? Sports? What I get open

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my watch to play? You know, you know Michael Jordan, right,

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obviously you know COVID right of course. Anyway, so you know I'm boy.

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Okay, first more problem, Right, do I get a four hundred

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million dollars contract or a six hundred
million dollar contract? Right? But I'm

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fascinated to see how he how he's
valued if all he can do is hit

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well for a year, maybe for
one year. But you know, but

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this is his second, his second
Tommy Johnson, Okay, okay, he's

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had one before. How's he gonna
come on? Who he is? Who

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he is, generational player? He
is who he is? Yeah, So

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anyways, okay, get oh,
let me another serious one. Let me

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get back to this. So some
more back and forth going on on this

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mouth Tucker issue of Michigan State.
Michigan State has sent him notification that they

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intend to fire him. It's a
whatever process. It's outlined in his contracts

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saying they're gonna fire him for cose, meaning it's gonna cost him about eighty

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million dollars if that's what's on the
contract. He's thrown back that, uh,

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it's not about his his relate,
his private relationship, consensual private relations

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ship that he had with another adult. As he said that, he says,

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a cursory reading of the facts of
time mind because any fair minded person

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to conclude that other motives are at
play. Basically, they don't want to

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pay him the contract. He threw
the race card out a few days ago.

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But uh, you know what,
in the end, and there was

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a really a really good article about
all of this in The Athletic today.

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In the end, he was stupid. Yeah, I mean you could have

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stupid. Stupid, you could have
started an end of that story right like

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that. Right, he was stupid. He put he put himself in this

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position, whatever the outcome is,
he put himself in this position. He

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didn't have to be in this position, and he did, and he didn't.

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He thought with a certain part of
his body that a lot of a

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lot of us are accused him thinking
with. And now he's in you know,

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he's in this situation. Yeah,
yeah, just an unfortunate situation for

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him in a school that's already kind
of been on the alert, right right,

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after all that's been out there.
And that's part of it too.

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I'm sure that's a big piece of
it. Is Michigan State wants to you

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know, they're trying to clean all
this out, the reputation. How they

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get this after all that with Larry
Nasser, the gymnastics coach, and how

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they get this. I mean,
it's like, guys, if you're gonna

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be here, you got to be
extra cautious. I'm sure new clauses in

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the in the contracts. Yeah right, any sex related controversy that's caused,

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you're out of here. Get out
of here. Sean McVay trying to uh,

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trying to deflect, claims that he
knew what the points Fred was tell

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me about because I read it all
the yesterday. Tell me tell me.

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His quote was apparently there's a lot
of people in Vegas or pissed off about

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that decision to kick that field goal, right, he said, I clearly

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was not aware of that stuff.
Why why was he okay? He said?

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He said that in the end,
what they were trying to do was

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to get down there kick a field
goal. That was a plan the whole

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time. Get him playing, get
close enough to kick a field goal,

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with enough time to do an onside
kick and hopefully get one play. He

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said, with four seconds left.
We didn't want to throw a hail Mary

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where we could get our quarterback hurt. We wanted to, you know,

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just run out there kick a field
goal to have, you know, to

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kind of get the work in of
kicking a field goal in the game.

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So they kicked the field They would
have been just easy enough because it was

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like five six take exactly exactly.
Well, but what he said, but

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he said, we wanted to kick
the field goal because you know, it's

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obvious, it's an opportunity to kick
a field goal in a game last second,

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you know, good. But there's
a lot of people that's just it's

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like some people won't take the knees
and and you've been on the out side

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of that, We're no go score, No, they take a knee and

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then our family fan friendly or whatever
the word is. You know, they

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want to be nice. They don't
want to team friendly. Speaking of that,

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the Iowa game, right, okay, so I will so we don't

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like. Yeah, you know the
contract twenty five points a game for for

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Kurt Ferrence's kid. He's offensive coording
his contract. They got average twenty five

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points a game. So Iowa is
winning twenty four. Uh they're they're winning

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thirty four to ten or something like
that. All right, So they're up

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twenty four point, but he's got
thirty four points and they're going down at

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the fifteen seconds left, they're inside
the five yard line and they score instead

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of taking a knee. People are
saying, you know you did that.

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You know, well the savior to
savior, Well, the son's job,

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Well, possibly they might need that. So I saw them the week before

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because the TJ, right, he's
the Iowa guys. I went to the

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Iowa up party and it was a
little different. So so we talked about

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that, right, and they scored
like twenty four is twenty four, right,

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but guess who scored twenty twelve of
those points? Yeah, defends right

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rights, what the hell it doesn't, But say that it doesn't. The

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contract doesn't say the offense has just
scored twenty well, he better, but

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the team has to average twenty five
points, so they give him the extra

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you know, they give them,
they get the extra touchdowns. If people

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were saying you obviously, you know, don't tell us that you weren't thinking

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about that when you when you scored
that extra touchdown. It's just it flipped

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the spread. They weren't covering touchdown
and they were covering it looks. It

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looks bad. It doesn't it look
bad. It looks really bad. Looks

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There's so much going on with now, so much, all right, especially

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especially at school, ja, especially
at school where half the kids are damned

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suspended because it kidd gambled, right, yeah, exactly exactly. Guys,

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guys, guys, you got to
be thinking about stuff, all right.

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Uh. Michael Wiley got name name
to the Weekly Paul Horney Award Honor Roll

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for his performance against against U tep
So's He's uh, he's in the you

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know, on the list of not
finalists, but that it was not a

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Player of the Week then it was. There was a number of players,

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players that get you know, the
on the quote unquote Honor Roll for the

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award, So Michael Wiley got that. And again, he does so many

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things there's not except I mean he
did in the SU game last year,

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but he's never doesn't ever seem to
be spectacle. But then you get to

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the end of the game you realize
all the things that he did catching the

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ball, and statistically he's not gonna
be as good because there's so many other

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people running the ball. But he
is your steady guy. He is your

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steady guy. So I know watching
you said you didn't watch games. I

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watch some of them. Did you
see the Nick Chubb injury. I didn't

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want to see that. I didn't
want to see it. I didn't see

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it because they said, if you
want to see it, you'll be grossed

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out. Yeah, no, there
it was. It was gross, but

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they'll be There have been other ones
like it and worse. But ESPN would

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not show the replay the replay,
and there's a lot of people saying you

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needed to show it once because of
its news value. And then if you

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and you would say here it comes, look away. If these kinds of

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things bother, you show it and
then don't show it anything. Well,

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I think he said if you care
to watch it. We're not gonna show

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it here. Good the internet,
right, which it's all over the internet.

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It's bad. But he was not
that much in pain. Whether that

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I saw because I was in shock
is what it would maybe because he was

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not what I saw. He was
just still kind of getting ready to get

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up or picked up or whatever.
Yeah, that's it's a brutal sport.

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It's a brutal sport. So u
Tom Brady, he got asked, got

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asked. He does a podcast with
Jim Gray, and Jim Gray asked him

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if you know if the Jets called
or you you know, because with Aaron

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Rodgers out, you know, if
the Jets called, hi, would you

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go back? And he said no, no, no, next question,

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Tom Brady is not coming back at
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gonna go with Zach Wilson. Good
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ball. You can move the ball. They didn't do so well. Yeah,

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Keepernick still build, some would say, and then where's the red rifle?

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No other thing's funny with it.
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if he because not a Cincinnati anyways, that New York either. All right,

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that's about it. Uh, we've
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the phone, we have former UVA
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and now turn TV color analysts Bob
Davey coach. How are you leave?

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One? Great Adams's good to see
you Saturday night to see the Cats have

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a big winning through Sunset's so good
to be with you. Thanks for joining

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us so much to talk to you
about Albuquerque the Cats. I was curious

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when you come back here because it's
been a while since you coached here.

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Just a landscape and and the things
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you've been gone from the University of
Arizona, your thoughts on that, and

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you know that was a long time
ago. And I was the eventeen seventy

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eight and seventy nine. You know, I grew up in Pittsburgh, as

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did my wife. You know we
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the courthouse just as of a piece
on a Tuesday morning in nineteen seventy eight,

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in June. So how many years
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six? I'm embarrassed to say forty
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Pittsburgh, we fell in love with
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there, and actually vacation back in
Arizona a lot as I was coaching and

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as I was with ESPN. But
we when I when I left Motor Dame

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and went to ESPN, we bought
a home in North Scottsdale that we've had

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for about twenty years now. And
even when I was at un M for

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eight years, you know, we
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kind of gradually watched Tucson change.
You know, it wasn't like I was

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gone from seeing it for a long
time. So you know, it reminds

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me a little bit of Albuquerque,
quite honestly. You know, the PAC

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twelve money has obviously changed and upgraded
the facilities because they've had all across the

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conference, so it still has a
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me, and you know, I
love it. You know, I love

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Tucson. So you got to come
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you know, as you said,
you did that a bunch for ESPN.

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I'd remember watching an Arizona State the
Arizona game that you did with your son,

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you know, in the game and
stuff like that. So you've had

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a lot of a lot of those
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coming back here and watching the program
after the dark period that it went through

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and seen what's going on here at
Arizona now, just some of your thoughts

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of what you feel like you saw
on Saturday night. You know, first

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of all, it's not an easy
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think Jed Fish has done a remarkable
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the new transfer portal and has rebuilt
that roster amazingly well in the last two

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years. You know, from where
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from from just a talent and depth
standpoint to where they are now is really

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remarkable. And I think he has
some really good recruiters on his staff,

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particularly Johnny Manson, and you know, I don't want to leave anybody's name

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out, but guys that have tremendous
relationships, particularly on the West Coast,

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and they've taken advantage of that,
and I think they are really an entertaining

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football team to watch. I think
they'll be right in the middle of the

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Pac twelve race the big asterick as
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and Aaron Rodgers and you saw last
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can they stay healthy, particularly at
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they'll be right in the middle of
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let me talk to you, but
just him specifically. So you have

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a quarterback and I don't know if
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Where do you love their enthusiasm,
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their confidence, that's the positive.
The negative you hate their confidence. Hate

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here's because you don't know which player
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take chances. Yeah, he's a
dilemma. He definitely has an instinct to

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improvise. You know, he's one
of the best improvisers I've seen. I

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kind of reminds me of Johnny Manziel
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A and M. The difficult thing
for the defenses and I said this on

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air Saturday nights. You have to
defend two plays every time he drops back

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the pass right, the first one
that Jedfish called in more dangerous, the

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one that he improvises to and creates
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for defenses, and you know,
I love watching him play. You do

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have to. He's going to turn
it over at times because he is the

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prototype gunslinger. But with his supporting
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have, many they are they are
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mean it's gonna be some heartache in
there, but there's a lot more positive

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plays than our own negative, right. You know. The PAC twelve is

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it's been there's been a lot of
talk about how good this league is.

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You know, you've got eight teams
ranked you know, a couple them in

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the top ten. I mean,
just talk about the grind of a conference

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like that. You know, you
you know you you're you're a notre dame

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where you know, the schedule is
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with good teams weekend and week out. Talk about the grind of going through

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something like that with a coach where
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in the air on both sides.
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to look at it. Like if
you look at their schedule, you know,

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once they get past Stanford, which
stands which is not very good,

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I mean, that's a complete rebuilding
job. Washington at home. Then you

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go at USC. Okay, both
those games are gonna be right lights,

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enthusiasm, you know, highs,
the highs. Then the ones I look

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at are like at Washington State after
USC, who's really a good team,

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But you go up there to Pullman, you know, they're probably twenty one

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thousand people there. Then you come
home and play Oregon State, who's,

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you know, again, really really
a good team. Look the Washington's,

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the USC's, the UCLA's, they
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ways. You know, it's those
games at Washington State, Oregon State at

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home, those are the ones that
make me nervous. So you just said

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it. Now every team after Stanford
probably with the exception of the last game

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of Arizona State, and that's a
rivalry game, obviously, you guys know

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better than me those other games in
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So but they do have the roster, they do have an improved defense

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as far his talent and depth,
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going to be very competitive. So
I'm sure you've had a player or two

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or ten of these guys, But
what are your thoughts on McMillan and how

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did you call the catch that he
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I think that one's freakish. You
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arm on the replay. You know, it's psyche double jointed, like his

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arm came out of his shoulder.
They compliment each other so well, right

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McMillan the big, tall receiver cowing
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Wiley coming out of the backfield,
and then the tight own's good. So

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they you know, McMillan's kind of
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think by the end of the season, everyone in the country is going to

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know about him Cowing everybody knows about
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against the good teams where his decision is

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going to have to be spot on. Yeah, Steve and I've been debating

407
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this h since the preseason Washington or
USC. Steve likes USC to win the

408
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league. I like Washington. I'm
a big fan of Michael Michael Panos.

409
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I'm I don't know if you are
to say he's better than Caleb Williams,

410
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but he's certainly in the same neighborhood
as Caleb Williams. I like him a

411
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lot. Compare those two teams.
What are your thoughts on those two teams?

412
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Hard for me to say, You
know, it's hard for me to

413
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bet against USC, just because of
the overall explosiveness, particularly in the kicking

414
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game now with the young freshman back
there who looks like Reggie Bush returning kicks,

415
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right, I don't know, you
know, USC goes to Notre Dame.

416
00:30:08.839 --> 00:30:11.839
I don't know. It's hard for
me to say. I don't know

417
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exactly how many years you've been out
of coaching, But as I joked with

418
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Jim Ivan Good earlier, I'm sure
he's happy to be retired. Given the

419
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NIL, given all the craziness that's
going on, the transfer portal and all

420
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that. Can you put a grasp
on what's going on today? You know,

421
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it's everything that you deal with and
adapt and I've been out three years.

422
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This is my third season, you
adapt as a coach, but I'm

423
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glad I'm retired. You know,
the transfer portal thing of just guys coming

424
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and going the nil deal that you
know, obviously players deserve to get something,

425
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and I think them as spake.
It was made was we let these

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coaching salaries just explode, just go
completely crazy with paying coaches because of the

427
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TV contract money and these Power five
conferences and the gap of what coaches were

428
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getting paid and then the players getting
nothing. Then the player thing just exploded.

429
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You know, I wish we would
have eased into this thing with more

430
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of a common sense approach. You
know, coaches don't need to make millions

431
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of dollars, and players, certainly
in college, don't need to be paid

432
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billions of dollars to a scale down, more common sense version. But when

433
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you let the thing explode and you
spend all this money on facilities and you're

434
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building these just ridiculous facilities and you're
paying coaches this amount of money, well

435
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then the players the gap was just
too ridiculously big. So it's out of

436
00:32:00.839 --> 00:32:06.079
control. It is out of control. I don't think it's really sustainable.

437
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Thank God for these TV contracts,
But where is that him, you know,

438
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with the things happening at ESPN,
it's it's it's scary to me,

439
00:32:16.920 --> 00:32:21.799
it really is. But with that
said, you guys know it, no

440
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matter how the player got there,
when they put that helmet on, when

441
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they put that wildcat helmet off,
people are gonna show up and they're gonna

442
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cheer. And college football is still
the greatest thing going in the greatest brand

443
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out there. But the foundation of
foundation of it makes me a little bit

444
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nervous. Yeah, no, it's
it is scary when you when you see

445
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what could happen, right or you
just hope for the best. So when

446
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a big game a lot of big
games this weekend, one of the big

447
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ones that arguably the best game of
the weekend, or how State and Order

448
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Dame. You were part of the
Order Dame program as the head coach,

449
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and you have a lot of big
games during to give and you're what's the

450
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atmosphere going to be like this weekend
in South Bend, particularly at night,

451
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and Notre Dame being a really good
team, it'll be off the charts,

452
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you know, it'll be off the
charts. And you know, we played

453
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Ohio State twice when I was at
Notre Dame. The Michigan game, the

454
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Ohio State game, the USC game, those are traditional and this one's a

455
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backyard rivalry. I mean, there's
probably it's probably a four or five hour

456
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drive to Columbus, maybe not even
that. It'll be a tremendous atmosphere a

457
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Saturday United South band on national television. And Notre Dame is good. Notre

458
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Dame is really really good in physical
I think Notre Dame will beat them,

459
00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:49.519
I really do. Notre Dame is
a physical football team. But when you

460
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went into a game like that,
how nervous were you versus excited? You

461
00:33:54.519 --> 00:33:59.640
know? What was the balance there
of that heading into that kind of a

462
00:33:59.720 --> 00:34:02.559
game? As the head coach of
Notre Dame, you know what I say.

463
00:34:02.680 --> 00:34:07.559
We we went to back to back
Bowl games with the University of New

464
00:34:07.599 --> 00:34:13.880
Mexico in two thousand and fifteen and
sixteen, and truthfully, there might have

465
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been twenty one thousand people in the
stands in Albuquerque, But if we played

466
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a big game. From a coach's
standpoint, it wasn't any different. I

467
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mean, truthfully, I don't mean
to minimize the vibe of what all the

468
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Notre Dame thing is or the big
games. But when you're in coaching and

469
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you're doing your thing, it can
be it can be New Mexico boys,

470
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And that's no different than Notre Dame
USC when you're coaching and being on the

471
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sidelines. And I think that's the
great thing about this sport. You know,

472
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it's it's it's the same from a
coaching standpoint. You know, obviously

473
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it sounds a little different reverberating in
your ear on that this set. You

474
00:34:54.639 --> 00:34:59.280
know what a hundred thousand people sound
like compared to twenty one thousand. But

475
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:04.039
it's just the joy you get out
of it and the competitiveness that goes into

476
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it and the rewards you get in
the heartache you get from coaching. There

477
00:35:07.719 --> 00:35:12.320
wasn't any different in New Mexico in
the eight years I spent year as a

478
00:35:12.360 --> 00:35:15.119
head coach than it was the eight
years I spent it at Notre Dame.

479
00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:17.679
So I got two more for you, coach. You talk about in New

480
00:35:17.719 --> 00:35:21.639
Mexico. As you know, I'm
from northern New Mexico, I guess,

481
00:35:21.840 --> 00:35:23.559
and I'm an eggy, so you
can say whatever you want about the locos.

482
00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:27.880
I'm okay with that, but I
missed. I'm sure you missed the

483
00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:31.639
food. You know what. Let
me go first, say, New Mexico

484
00:35:31.719 --> 00:35:36.920
State came into Albuquerque, New Mexico
Saturday night, as you know, and

485
00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:39.679
that's two in a row. Well, Doug Martin did a great job in

486
00:35:39.840 --> 00:35:43.840
Mexico State, because you know,
that job's difficult. It's a place,

487
00:35:44.960 --> 00:35:47.000
as Jerry kill pardon me, it's
a place where you go to get fired

488
00:35:47.360 --> 00:35:51.280
if you don't do well, you
want get fired. You know, I

489
00:35:51.440 --> 00:35:53.880
was there eight years and after my
fifth year, we had gone to back

490
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to back bowl games, won a
Bowl game, won the most games in

491
00:35:59.239 --> 00:36:04.559
the history of Mexico football back to
back years. And I chose to stay

492
00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:08.920
just because my family and where I
was in my career later in life.

493
00:36:10.280 --> 00:36:15.079
Probably should have left, honestly,
could have left, stayed, and then

494
00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:17.840
three years later I'm fired. So
I do think you're right about that.

495
00:36:19.639 --> 00:36:22.280
I do think that that is probably
what ends up being at the end of

496
00:36:22.320 --> 00:36:25.280
the day, what happens at a
lot of those places. You know,

497
00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:30.400
you tests an example that, right. But to answer your question, you're

498
00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:36.719
a much better expert on food in
Albuquerque. I'm a little bit of a

499
00:36:36.800 --> 00:36:39.639
hermit, you know. I've been
married forty five years and spent most of

500
00:36:39.719 --> 00:36:45.039
my free nights who were at home
with my wife's cooking. So I'm not

501
00:36:45.159 --> 00:36:47.639
going to give you the answer that
you're looking for. It is there are

502
00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:53.360
some great, great places, and
you know that Southwestern flavor to Albuquerque is

503
00:36:53.400 --> 00:36:57.760
pretty neat. Yeah, and last
thing, okay, so tell me if

504
00:36:57.800 --> 00:37:00.360
this story is true or not.
You got to Arizona. You talked about

505
00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:04.639
seventy eight seventy units. Were you
one of the guys, if not,

506
00:37:04.800 --> 00:37:08.480
the guy to bring Ricky Hunley here
or to convince Ricky Hunley to play here?

507
00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:15.039
You and maybe Rogie not so much. ROGI. It was myself and

508
00:37:15.159 --> 00:37:19.079
Tony Mason, the head coach.
Tonny Mason was a great recruiter, a

509
00:37:19.320 --> 00:37:24.000
great recruiter and a great person.
And actually we found out about Ricky.

510
00:37:24.119 --> 00:37:29.599
There was a walk on player from
Arizona named bobble and Camp that sent a

511
00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:32.280
letter that got to me, and
because I was the East coast recruiter,

512
00:37:32.400 --> 00:37:38.039
I went back and started the relationship. But Ricky sell in love with the

513
00:37:38.119 --> 00:37:42.079
Southwest, He fell in love with
the desert. Thought he was going to

514
00:37:42.119 --> 00:37:45.599
play baseball for Jerry Kendall. Although
a lot of guys think they're going to

515
00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:47.360
play, but they're not quite that
good to do it, because that's a

516
00:37:47.400 --> 00:37:51.360
big time baseball. But now,
it was a lot of guys, but

517
00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:55.840
it was really Tony Mason, who
was a unique individual and a great football

518
00:37:55.880 --> 00:37:59.039
coach. Yeah, he said once
he landed here, he said, he

519
00:37:59.119 --> 00:38:01.679
called all the other school say I'm
coming here, I'm staying. Yeah.

520
00:38:02.199 --> 00:38:06.559
You know, he was supposed to
visit Ohio State yea, And there was

521
00:38:06.599 --> 00:38:10.440
a snowstorm in Columbus and he didn't
want to fly in the snow. And

522
00:38:10.559 --> 00:38:14.920
then he had an aunt. It
was a port with Chuka. So there

523
00:38:14.960 --> 00:38:17.960
were a lot of good things in
play for us, but definitely Ricky Hunley

524
00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:21.400
putting you on m on the map, excuse me, putting you of a

525
00:38:21.559 --> 00:38:24.000
on the map the standpoint of defense, No, yack. You can argue

526
00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:29.159
that a lot of what's happened since
the eighties year were because you guys were

527
00:38:29.199 --> 00:38:34.400
able to get you know, Ricky
Hundley into Tucson. No, I've been

528
00:38:34.440 --> 00:38:36.880
here in my whole life and I
saw that happen. And you know,

529
00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:39.119
that was the period of time where
you felt the Arizona was as you said,

530
00:38:39.239 --> 00:38:42.840
you know, Arizona is not to
keep going. But Ari's first year

531
00:38:42.920 --> 00:38:46.559
in the PAC ten then was nineteen
seventy eight with Tony Mason. That was

532
00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:50.079
my first year on the staff.
In seventy nine, we go to the

533
00:38:50.159 --> 00:38:55.079
Festa Bowl, if you remember,
play Danny Marino in a thirteen seven game

534
00:38:55.239 --> 00:39:00.000
or something like that. And then
in the spring, you know that unfortunate

535
00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:02.719
that thing came up with expense accounts
and stuff, and that was the end

536
00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:07.920
of the Tony Mason era. But
definitely there were some good players in the

537
00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:10.000
program, and Larry Smith came in
and took advantage of it and did a

538
00:39:10.039 --> 00:39:14.960
great job. Bob, thank you
a bunch, thank you, a bunch

539
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:16.119
of you going to come back down
here and do another game or you don't

540
00:39:16.159 --> 00:39:20.320
know yet, Well you got to
invite me down so I can send in

541
00:39:20.360 --> 00:39:24.400
your a VP set at all the
games. I might even get some U

542
00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:29.519
Exco food for us. Okay,
how about that? Thanks you talking to

543
00:39:29.559 --> 00:39:32.440
you. Than everything works out and
you have a great season. Thank you

544
00:39:32.599 --> 00:39:37.480
very much, appreciate you. Take
care, Bob Davey, very good,

545
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very fun, very cool. All
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dot org. Steve Rivera and Jay
Gnsalez. They have their eye on the

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ball on Tucson Sports Stage. Jeff
Fox Sports fourteen fifty streaming live on the

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iHeart Radio. Whap Hey Welcome back
to On the Ball Hero Fox Sports fourteen.

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Cookie. I'm Steve Rivera. You're
Jakin's as. We've got eight minutes.

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If anybody wants to give us a
quick call, please do, but

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hey, I make it quick.
I was, I was going out side

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of this office and I said,
you know, today is one of those

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days where I really enjoy what we
do, right because we had fun with

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Jim obviously, Coach Davy was it
was a lot of fun too, he

626
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was. He was fun in his
dry way. Yeah. Well yeah,

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you know, but look when we
talk to these guys who've been, you

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know, done some I mean I
think about Bob Davy. You know,

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he was an assistant coach at Arizona
forty five years and years ago. You

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know, he's been the coach in
Notre Dame and all these places. You

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know, he's done TV stuff.
I mean, there's a lot of knowledge

632
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and history and that guy's head.
Sure, and then and in fifteen minutes,

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we'd try and draw out some of
it, you know whatever, you

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know some of it, Uh,
it's interesting to us, but there's so

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much more that those guys know.
Jim living Good too, you know,

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athletic director, you know at four
schools U including you know, fifteen years

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at Arizona. I mean, how
much did those guys see right right,

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you know, during during all that
time. So anyways, those guys,

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but the guys want a call.
We have seven minutes now five two o

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four one six seventy four forty do
give us a quick call. I don't

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do you want to talk about that
that weird story. Well, I know

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it doesn't pretend to anything. Yeah, yeah, yes, and no,

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I mean without knowing all the details, Like I'm sure there's there's you there's

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an Orange Country Register reporter who's been
suspended from UH from UH access to football

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team still cover for two weeks.
He can still cover the team, just

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not get I guess you can't.
You can't go to press conferences stuff.

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I don't know if he's credential has
been pulled for the games or or what

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so. Through the years, Jay, through the years, here, through

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the years here, and you've you've
been a part of it, Like when

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Luke, if you ever say something
bad, they're gonna take your credential away.

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And I'm thinking they're not gonna do
that. They can't do that.

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But see they can bok Okay they
can. Okay, they can. This

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is why because they make their own
news. Okay, no, and that's

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fine, And that's fine. They
still can pull the credential. You can

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still write from the couch, which
many people to the game and criticize whichever

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way right, whichever way right,
and you're not going to prevent that from

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happening. You're done, whether they
create their own news or not. And

658
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how bad does it look? How
bad does it look on the institution?

659
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Right, And that's what people are
saying, says us, You guys,

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you're usus. What the hell are
you worried about? Exactly? Because because

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what two guys were quoted about the
situation was two players, they're getting ready

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to do a media session, right, two players are talking, they're talking

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this reporter, here's what they're talking
about. And he reports that, which

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you generally don't do. No,
fine, it's kind of off the sure,

665
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it's sort of okay, So be
pissed at him and go to him

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and say, hey, don't do
that this year. But you're going to

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cut their access off this unless depends
what he said. What they said.

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Yeah, but the problem is the
issue with that is that Steve, is

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that you know, the schools do
their own news anyway. They put out

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their own news. They're so sneezing
they don't need the newspapers anymore. Sure,

671
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no, no, I get that
one. The stuff that they put

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out isn't going to be as good
as the news is. One. You

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remember Jim Moore. Remember we talked
to Jim Moore from Seattle on the Funny

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Guys when and he we talked about
the story about him being in the hallway

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before Arizona played Wisconsin in Utah,
and he was one to ask Lukee,

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did you guys overlook Wisconsin? And
because he was in the hallway, right,

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guys, and he got the impression
that there and they were and they

678
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were looking ahead to round two or
three over Wisconsin because they were they were

679
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talking crap. And Luke got pissed, YadA, yadda. But you hear

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more stuff in the hallways so so
often, right right? Is it usable?

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I don't know, Jay, I
don't know. Jay. Depends what

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was written. Well, again,
and look based on its face value.

683
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Okay, If if two guys are
having a side conversation, you happen to

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be standing, they don't know you're
standing there listening to it and then you

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report. That's okay. I agree
with that, but I don't agree with

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saying, well, we're gonna cut
you off for two weeks. We're gonna

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punish you for that. That's stupid. And he can still do his job

688
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just not covering the team. But
that part of it is stupid. Well,

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because again, you're usc You're way
bigger than all of it. Of

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course, you know, right,
you know, just going again and say

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that, you know what, we
don't appreciate that. That was a stupid

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thing, dude. Don't don't do
that. Don't do it anymore, right,

693
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right, right to say, well, oh we're gonna take away your

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privileges fight me, Yeah, you
know exactly. Yeah, Yeah, I

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was gonna do something. But might
he's a good thing. Well, look

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at look the Baltimore Orioles radio guy. He criticized in house about something that

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is in paper. Right, you
know, we beat we're beating these guys

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more than than we had before.
Oh you're fired, you're you're suspended for

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two weeks. Yeah. Well he
was just stating the facts. And the

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woman who did the bills, yeah, I guess our open. Well,

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that's a little different because she was
an employee. Well, she's the team.

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We'll seem like the ball made and
made a comment about one of the

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guys on the team. That's that
one's a little bit. Everybody's so sensitive

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they are, well, they want
to controls. They wanted to get it.

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There's so many of these, whether
it's an athletic department, a pro

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a pro franchise, they want to
quote unquote control the narrative, control the

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narrative. I hear you. I
think it looks more. I think it

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looks more petty than it does exactly. That's the That's the word stupid too,

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but petty petty's a more appropriate word. So anyways, Okay, big

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game Boomer out with his with his
updated ball projections today playing he's got Arizona

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in the first Responder Bowl, where
I have no idea, but he's got

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him against b Yo in the first
response. Okay, where's that up out

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first responsible somebody's already got the I
hope it's somebody good somewhere. Good.

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Yeah. No, I probably wouldn't
go because there's too many best ball greg

715
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best ball games. Uh it's in
Dallas. Oh never mind, what day,

716
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it's uh December something. Uh yeah, it's played in the Cotton Bowl.

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This year's game is on December the
twenty six Oh okay, so did

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they have to Christmas know that that
day? Okay, So I'm just saying,

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you know, the twenty sixteen.
No, no, we're gonna be

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out. Yeah, we're gonna be
out that week. But they got the

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air zone in the First Responders Bowl
in Dallas against b YU. He's got

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his his new year six games are
Cotton Ball, LSU, Oregon State,

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who Festibal, Fresno State, Washington. So he doesn't have a pack twolve

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team in the playoff, Peach Bowl, Texas, Notre Dame, Orange Bowl,

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Duke old Man in the playoff,
and the Rose Bowl. He's got

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Michigan, Florida State, and in
the Sugar Bowl Georgia and Penn State.

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Penn State, all right, and
then he's got Michigan Georgia in the championship

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game. I'll I'll give you right
now. Florida State will not be playing

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in the He's got Alabama in the
Relia Quest Bowls against Ohio State. It's

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happt to be a damn good game. I know what they have. The

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relia Quest Bowl is Oregon in the
Holiday Bowl against Louisville. He's got Utah

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and the Alamo Bowl against Oklahoma.
Who else does he have from the PAC

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twelve in there? UCLA in the
Independence Bowl against Kansas. Yeah, okay,

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there's one thing we could talk about
tomorrow. The College Basketball Report,

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the top fifty best college athletics.
Arizona is I think two, and they

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were a head of Arizona State.
That's all that matters. Come on,

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you're talking about the shambles of a
place right now. God, what happened

738
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to him on Saturday? So bad? Oh? One more, he's got

739
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USC in the Sun Bowl against North
Carolina. Who who USC? Yeah?

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Oh no, no, one're taking
credentials away. They saw that story,

741
00:53:15.719 --> 00:53:23.599
got pissed. We need better than
the Sun Bowl. Don't you know who

742
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we are? They? According to
this, then he's got USC finishing in

743
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fourth place. Oh, we gotta
get him on the phone and say what

744
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the hell you? We gotta go. We got five seconds. Oh we

745
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do have to go. Okay,
we're out here. We'll be back tomorrow.

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We'll be talking to some high school
football, so be sure to be here.

