WEBVTT 1 00:00:30.719 --> 00:00:39.920 Welcome to Destiny. Now here's your host, Cliff Dunning. It's that time 2 00:00:40.000 --> 00:00:45.399 of the week again. Hey, Hey, how are you? You don't 3 00:00:45.560 --> 00:00:50.200 hope you're okay? Today? Hey, we're talking about prophecy today in the 4 00:00:50.240 --> 00:00:54.560 form of astrology. We've had a couple of astrologers on the program in the 5 00:00:54.640 --> 00:00:59.719 last couple of years, typically in January, because that's the beginning. You 6 00:00:59.759 --> 00:01:03.439 know, it's funny. I'm thinking we should get a Chinese astrologer on sometimes 7 00:01:03.479 --> 00:01:07.879 maybe that's twenty twenty five. The new year starts later, starts in I 8 00:01:07.920 --> 00:01:14.280 think early February, and so that's a whole different animal, a whole different 9 00:01:14.879 --> 00:01:19.879 look at the earth and the human beings you and I that occupy the earth. 10 00:01:21.680 --> 00:01:26.439 Today we're talking about sidarial astrology, which is Hindu. It's ancient, 11 00:01:26.280 --> 00:01:34.200 and my guest today is an expert and he's been I think he's he's worked 12 00:01:34.239 --> 00:01:41.319 on five thousand different individual charts over the years and trained I think it's like 13 00:01:41.319 --> 00:01:46.200 one hundred people. He's been doing it for over ten years, so he 14 00:01:47.079 --> 00:01:52.040 sounds pretty accurate. He was suggested to me by my producer, Gail Tour 15 00:01:52.280 --> 00:02:01.120 Thank you, Gail. But sidarial astrology follows the actions of the constellations and 16 00:02:01.200 --> 00:02:06.840 also the planets, and what makes it interesting isn't And I gotta say this 17 00:02:07.000 --> 00:02:09.120 years ago. I want to say, like twenty years ago, I had 18 00:02:09.840 --> 00:02:15.479 a reading by a siderial or a Hindu astrologer. It was very, very 19 00:02:15.520 --> 00:02:22.639 accurate and at that time, and this was an from an I think he 20 00:02:22.759 --> 00:02:30.639 was from Bangalore and he was an Indian born and his whole take on things, 21 00:02:30.680 --> 00:02:37.039 which I kind of like now, is the energy the influences of these 22 00:02:37.080 --> 00:02:45.400 planets on biology on us. And it's really funny. I never really get 23 00:02:45.400 --> 00:02:50.000 a straight answer as to how astrology came about. It's kind of like yoga. 24 00:02:50.039 --> 00:02:57.240 It's been around for thousands of years. I mean, yoga conservatively has 25 00:02:57.280 --> 00:03:04.000 been around for five thousand years. Astrology is probably ageless. It probably goes 26 00:03:04.039 --> 00:03:07.840 beyond the dynastic, well, we know it goes beyond the dynastic. Egyptians 27 00:03:07.879 --> 00:03:14.520 when we do our annual Grand Egyptian Tour, we stop in at Hathor, 28 00:03:14.599 --> 00:03:22.479 which is an astronomical temple. You go to the very top and it's made 29 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:30.400 for observing the sky. There's also a huge astrological calendar on one of the 30 00:03:30.479 --> 00:03:36.560 roosts that one of Napoleon's engineers removed and you can see the original one in 31 00:03:36.680 --> 00:03:42.879 the louver in Paris, but they made a copy of it, and the 32 00:03:42.919 --> 00:03:49.199 copy has been placed back where this engineer removed it, and it's fascinating and 33 00:03:49.240 --> 00:03:53.719 you can actually buy reproductions of it, hand painted reproductions. I have one 34 00:03:53.759 --> 00:04:04.759 in my front room of this astrological chart or calendar as it originally appeared. 35 00:04:05.039 --> 00:04:10.560 It's got a lot of amazing energy. So it's interesting to note how far 36 00:04:10.639 --> 00:04:18.800 back astrology actually falls or originates. I have to think that it's beyond our 37 00:04:18.920 --> 00:04:26.279 history to be able to accurately understand it, because the previous epoch, those 38 00:04:26.319 --> 00:04:32.879 people were all about subtle energy, how the Sun influences us energetically, how 39 00:04:32.959 --> 00:04:43.360 the planets influence us, and your right of free will, your right as 40 00:04:43.439 --> 00:04:49.360 a biological entity on the planet Earth to have the ability to intend things to 41 00:04:49.439 --> 00:05:02.079 happen. And so I fully believe that the astrological formulas of Hindu Tropical I 42 00:05:02.120 --> 00:05:10.000 think there's another one called Draco or something like that, astrology comes into being 43 00:05:10.079 --> 00:05:16.519 and influences. So it's really a critical way to see things because you can 44 00:05:17.480 --> 00:05:25.480 learn ahead of time planetary influences on your life and make decisions on that. 45 00:05:25.879 --> 00:05:30.720 I mean, everyone knows about mercury retrograde. When mercury is retrograding, you 46 00:05:30.720 --> 00:05:38.000 shouldn't be signing any documents. You shouldn't be doing anything that is related to 47 00:05:38.120 --> 00:05:45.920 major changes. You should kind of be mellow while it's it's retrograding, so 48 00:05:45.959 --> 00:05:48.800 that you don't get into trouble. It's funny because I didn't care about it 49 00:05:48.800 --> 00:05:50.439 for a while and then I thought, wait a minute, I'm having your 50 00:05:50.480 --> 00:05:55.639 problems here during this retrograde. I need to pay more attention. And this 51 00:05:55.720 --> 00:06:01.040 is what happens. You've become more aligned with these phases and predicaments that you're 52 00:06:01.519 --> 00:06:11.360 signing is passing into and you can make major changes relationships. You know, 53 00:06:11.439 --> 00:06:14.000 if your girlfriend or your boyfriend, or your husband or your wife or your 54 00:06:14.079 --> 00:06:18.560 lover or whatever is falling into a certain trend, you need to be clear 55 00:06:18.600 --> 00:06:25.279 of that. So today we're going to hear about trends for twenty twenty four 56 00:06:26.600 --> 00:06:30.720 and also trends that go beyond, are beyond one year or twelve months. 57 00:06:30.720 --> 00:06:33.879 We're going to go into some heavy trends. One of them is kind of 58 00:06:33.920 --> 00:06:40.120 interesting. It's a trend it's a predicament, an outlook for the for the 59 00:06:40.279 --> 00:06:46.959 country of the United States of America. I'm going to ask my guest today 60 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:54.439 about that. So today's program is Astrological Predictions for twenty twenty four and beyond, 61 00:06:55.079 --> 00:07:15.279 and my guest is athen Cimenti. Saba Tours is well organized. Everything 62 00:07:15.399 --> 00:07:20.920 flowed easily. It was a fantastic tour from beginning to end. To be 63 00:07:21.000 --> 00:07:25.639 honest, I was shocked by the private visits. I could not believe that 64 00:07:25.720 --> 00:07:30.720 we were lucky enough to experience those. That's from one of the many people 65 00:07:30.720 --> 00:07:34.600 who do the Earth Ancients Grand Egyptian Tour every year. We're in our fifth 66 00:07:34.680 --> 00:07:41.879 year and we're looking forward to our next program. That's this April twenty eighth 67 00:07:41.879 --> 00:07:48.079 through May fifth, and it is a tour of ancient sites and it's a 68 00:07:48.120 --> 00:07:56.040 private tours with our host, Mohammed Imbrhim, who is a wonderful world class 69 00:07:56.079 --> 00:08:00.439 post and tour guide. We have a few spots left and this is an 70 00:08:01.160 --> 00:08:05.279 invitation to you to come out and join us in what can only be described 71 00:08:05.319 --> 00:08:13.800 as a VIP tour of Egypt. These are private sites we go to for 72 00:08:13.879 --> 00:08:18.879 the most part. This is a view of some of the most intriguing sites, 73 00:08:18.920 --> 00:08:22.639 including the Great Pyramid, Hathor Temple, the Bent Pyramid, the Red 74 00:08:22.680 --> 00:08:26.720 Pyramid, so much more, and then we cruise on the Nile. This 75 00:08:26.800 --> 00:08:31.879 is a way to really take in the ancient past and from start to finish, 76 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:37.240 the food, the beverages and the environment is first class. For more 77 00:08:37.240 --> 00:08:43.759 information, please go to Earthancients dot com Forward slash tours all the informations there 78 00:08:43.279 --> 00:09:22.759 The Earth Ancients Grand Egyptian Tour April twenty eighth through May ninth. He Each 79 00:09:22.840 --> 00:09:28.159 year I try to have a prognosticator on the program in the form of an 80 00:09:28.200 --> 00:09:35.480 astrologer. In the past, we've had people like celebrated astrologers like Susan Miller. 81 00:09:35.559 --> 00:09:41.279 We've had a couple of other people who are authors and this is uh. 82 00:09:41.320 --> 00:09:43.159 It's always fun to have people talk about what's going to happen in the 83 00:09:43.240 --> 00:09:50.480 year to come and kind of projecting out beyond that. But today I'm happy 84 00:09:50.519 --> 00:09:56.320 to say we're doing it a little differently in the form of a much more 85 00:09:56.440 --> 00:10:03.120 accurate astrology, which is sidereal, which is the Hindu form of astrology. 86 00:10:03.799 --> 00:10:07.519 It's much more accurate because it deals with the constellations rather than just the planets, 87 00:10:09.240 --> 00:10:11.879 and I have an expert on today. His name is Athyn Jimenti. 88 00:10:13.679 --> 00:10:18.799 He has been practicing for eleven years. He has and this is on his 89 00:10:18.799 --> 00:10:20.000 website, by the way, and we'll talk about his website a little bit 90 00:10:20.080 --> 00:10:28.000 later. He has helped more than five thousand people worldwide why to investigate their 91 00:10:28.080 --> 00:10:33.159 background. He's also taught more than one hundred astrologers. He's a true expert 92 00:10:33.159 --> 00:10:37.120 and I'm really happy to have him on the program. So we're going to 93 00:10:37.200 --> 00:10:41.200 learn all about what's happening in a few areas of this year twenty twenty four, 94 00:10:43.159 --> 00:10:48.759 and we'll see what's going on. So come, welcome to Destiny. 95 00:10:48.799 --> 00:10:52.279 Great to see you, Great to be on. Thank you, Cliff. 96 00:10:52.120 --> 00:10:58.679 All right, right off the bat, most people are checking out and viewing 97 00:10:58.879 --> 00:11:05.120 what is known as tropal astrology. What's the difference between tropical and sidereal, 98 00:11:07.559 --> 00:11:11.320 Right, So, if you're in the West, you're using tropical. You 99 00:11:11.360 --> 00:11:16.559 know, not too many people would know that or put the label on it. 100 00:11:16.559 --> 00:11:20.480 And the label is not important eiter either. But when you're in the 101 00:11:20.519 --> 00:11:26.919 West, you're essentially using a seasonal system, and it's a system that doesn't 102 00:11:26.919 --> 00:11:31.320 reflect the visible sky, so you know how you have your horoscope or your 103 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:35.720 sun's sign, and you know, vast majority of people at least know their 104 00:11:35.759 --> 00:11:41.120 sun sign. The truth is is that that's not actually where the sun was 105 00:11:41.320 --> 00:11:46.120 when you were born. The chances there's a chance that it is, it's 106 00:11:46.120 --> 00:11:50.600 a very small chance, but usually it's this sign before. Why that is 107 00:11:50.600 --> 00:11:56.759 is because about two thousand years ago, the West had fixed the zodiac signs 108 00:11:56.799 --> 00:12:03.639 around the seasons, so that you know, every spring equinox starts the zodiac 109 00:12:03.720 --> 00:12:07.240 and that's why you know, we have those consistent dates for all the zodiac 110 00:12:07.279 --> 00:12:11.600 signs, and there are always those you know, thirty days, very consistent. 111 00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:20.440 But we have this what's called procession, which is a slow wobble at 112 00:12:20.519 --> 00:12:24.440 least that's what the signists say, is a slow wobble of the earth that 113 00:12:24.759 --> 00:12:31.000 slowly changes the star's relative to the seasons. So in other words, the 114 00:12:31.039 --> 00:12:35.000 sun doesn't actually go back to the same place every year. Now that's very 115 00:12:35.080 --> 00:12:41.720 subtle. It's one degree every seventy two years, So every seventy two years 116 00:12:41.840 --> 00:12:46.279 the sun moves one degree. That's three hundred and sixty for the whole sky. 117 00:12:46.840 --> 00:12:52.600 Very subtle. But we've been about two thousand years now into this system, 118 00:12:52.639 --> 00:12:58.039 and so now we're a full sign and sometimes even two full signs away. 119 00:12:58.799 --> 00:13:01.679 So long story short, if you're in the west, you're probably using 120 00:13:01.879 --> 00:13:07.639 the tropical system. It's not where everything is visibly in the sky, and 121 00:13:07.720 --> 00:13:11.720 unfortunately most people don't know that, like you pointed out in the east, 122 00:13:13.120 --> 00:13:16.399 like in India, they have stayed true to the visible sky in their form 123 00:13:16.440 --> 00:13:24.759 of sidereal, but even there they've simplified things to using an even thirty degrees 124 00:13:24.840 --> 00:13:28.840 for all the signs, whereas if you do look up at the visible sky 125 00:13:30.240 --> 00:13:35.919 you will see that the constellations are different sizes. Okay, so Leo is 126 00:13:35.039 --> 00:13:39.600 very large, Vigoes very large, Cancer is very small, Scorpios very small. 127 00:13:41.879 --> 00:13:46.960 So what we're using here is called true saidarial, which is essentially saying 128 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:50.200 we're using the true sky trying to get as close to that as possible. 129 00:13:50.720 --> 00:13:56.720 Anyways, and it's essentially like a planetarium if you were to go onto a 130 00:13:56.759 --> 00:14:00.720 planetarium and look at the sky or literally go outside. This is the form 131 00:14:00.759 --> 00:14:05.720 of astrology we're using, which unfortunately ninety nine zero point nine percent of the 132 00:14:05.720 --> 00:14:11.559 world is not using. And so when someone believes that their planets aren't a 133 00:14:11.639 --> 00:14:18.000 certain sign A lot of the times they're not, and so that's where ideal 134 00:14:18.120 --> 00:14:24.159 comes in, and that's basically the cornerstone of mastering the zodiac. Talk a 135 00:14:24.200 --> 00:14:30.039 little bit about energetic influences that a lot of people don't understand that astrology is 136 00:14:30.120 --> 00:14:43.279 based on planets, constellations, stars influencing biology and planetary form. Here we're 137 00:14:43.279 --> 00:14:50.360 talking about Earth. How does that work as an astrologer? Are the influence? 138 00:14:50.360 --> 00:14:54.519 Says? Talk about Pluto because we're going to bring this into the discussion 139 00:14:54.519 --> 00:15:01.639 here in a minute. Is it the gravity of Pluto that's influencing biology human 140 00:15:01.720 --> 00:15:11.679 form? Is it the or another unseen force that is an influential factor of 141 00:15:11.919 --> 00:15:18.360 humans here on Earth. Yeah, that's a great question. So I view 142 00:15:18.399 --> 00:15:24.279 it differently than the traditional way of thinking about how astrology works. So traditionally 143 00:15:24.320 --> 00:15:31.759 we think of Newtonian physics. We think that where there's some effect like that, 144 00:15:31.799 --> 00:15:33.519 the planets are having some sort of effect on us. So the planets 145 00:15:33.519 --> 00:15:41.240 are, through gravity or electromagnetism, whatever, having some Newtonian physical effect on 146 00:15:41.399 --> 00:15:46.639 us in some way. I don't come from that belief. The way I 147 00:15:46.679 --> 00:15:54.799 see it is that astrology is just a clock and if you believe in cycles, 148 00:15:56.279 --> 00:16:00.240 and you believe that there's other cycles, maybe just the seasons, like 149 00:16:00.320 --> 00:16:06.120 for example, that perhaps the whole Solar System is going through cycles, or 150 00:16:06.120 --> 00:16:10.159 the whole galaxy or the whole universe itself is part of a giant, let's 151 00:16:10.159 --> 00:16:15.480 say cog that goes through cycles, then it would make sense that each piece 152 00:16:15.519 --> 00:16:21.200 of that cog would be also be part of that cycle. So I think 153 00:16:21.240 --> 00:16:26.000 all we're doing with astrology is we're just using the planets as a way to 154 00:16:26.039 --> 00:16:30.600 tell time. It's really the only real, you know, natural way of 155 00:16:30.639 --> 00:16:36.320 telling time, the natural clock. And I think all we've done in ancient 156 00:16:36.399 --> 00:16:41.639 history is just notice that certain things happen at certain times when these planets go 157 00:16:41.679 --> 00:16:48.000 into certain parts or certain configurations. And I don't believe that it's those planets 158 00:16:48.000 --> 00:16:51.679 that are doing anything as much as we're just reading what time it is in 159 00:16:51.759 --> 00:16:57.879 this larger cog. And when something's happening in that larger cog, it's affecting 160 00:16:59.799 --> 00:17:03.960 not only the whole cog itself, but the Solar System and us individually as 161 00:17:04.000 --> 00:17:08.359 within. So without would probably be a good way of describing that, you 162 00:17:08.359 --> 00:17:12.640 know, we're all going through the same motions It's almost like you could you 163 00:17:12.640 --> 00:17:17.519 could figure out the whole universe by taking apart just one little piece of the 164 00:17:17.599 --> 00:17:22.680 universe, and within that piece would contain theoretically everything you need to know about 165 00:17:22.720 --> 00:17:26.240 the universe. Right, So it's the same idea that you can look at 166 00:17:26.240 --> 00:17:29.359 any one piece of the universe. In this case, we're using the timekeeper 167 00:17:29.400 --> 00:17:33.519 of the planets to start to build a system to determine where we're at in 168 00:17:33.599 --> 00:17:38.799 these cycles and what that might mean for us, you know, individually who 169 00:17:38.839 --> 00:17:44.319 are part of that cycle, and also collectively we are going through those cycles 170 00:17:44.359 --> 00:17:49.319 as well. Let's let's do a quick example. Say you're doing a chart 171 00:17:49.359 --> 00:17:56.559 for somebody who wants to know about their wellness, their health, and you're 172 00:17:56.599 --> 00:18:04.240 looking through and you're calculating what influences will be in place for twenty twenty four, 173 00:18:06.079 --> 00:18:12.440 and you see Saturn as a key figure in an individual's wellness. How 174 00:18:14.880 --> 00:18:18.319 as an astrologer do you go about figuring out if this is going to be 175 00:18:18.359 --> 00:18:22.440 a good wellness year or not a good wellness year? And an individual needs 176 00:18:22.440 --> 00:18:29.960 to look closer make sure that they address every suspected health problem. Is that 177 00:18:30.200 --> 00:18:34.440 something where you would go okay, I see the numbers here falling off or 178 00:18:37.079 --> 00:18:41.599 give us an idea of how you would read that, right, So just 179 00:18:41.680 --> 00:18:45.119 tying it into you know, this idea of where we're at in the cycles. 180 00:18:45.200 --> 00:18:51.960 So you know when we're born the sky, you know, we're born 181 00:18:52.079 --> 00:18:56.480 at a certain part of that cycle. And what we figured out with astrology 182 00:18:56.039 --> 00:19:03.079 is that individuals will hold the frequency of that for their whole lives. So 183 00:19:03.119 --> 00:19:06.640 this is what we would call the natal chart or the birth chart, which 184 00:19:06.680 --> 00:19:11.680 is basically the sky when the person was born, right, and we would 185 00:19:11.759 --> 00:19:18.519 use that to make these kinds of determinations. Now from that point of birth, 186 00:19:18.799 --> 00:19:22.799 then the plants are continuing to move, so then we have what are 187 00:19:22.880 --> 00:19:30.960 called transits, which is where we get these what are now the visible planets 188 00:19:30.119 --> 00:19:36.359 or the planets in the sky now, and how that aspects are influences the 189 00:19:36.480 --> 00:19:40.960 natal chart or the sky when the person was born. So when, for 190 00:19:41.000 --> 00:19:48.039 example, Saturn goes into a certain configuration with that person's natal chart, or 191 00:19:48.359 --> 00:19:52.359 let's put it simply, wherever Saturn was when that person was born or wherever 192 00:19:52.359 --> 00:19:56.119 their son was whenever they were born, and Saturn is making some sort of 193 00:19:56.640 --> 00:20:03.400 configuration to that. Figured out that these certain con configurations are more challenging, 194 00:20:03.519 --> 00:20:07.480 some are more easy, and they can determine, you know, like you 195 00:20:07.519 --> 00:20:11.920 said, certain parts of life being activated, like career or health or things 196 00:20:11.960 --> 00:20:15.319 like this, and Saturn being a good example you mentioned because Saturn is the 197 00:20:15.319 --> 00:20:21.000 planet of more restriction, we do tend to see that when Saturn is influencing 198 00:20:21.079 --> 00:20:25.680 let's say a health sector, it does tend to be more restrictive. Now, 199 00:20:25.799 --> 00:20:30.680 I don't come from the camp that our future has been predetermined. Fully, 200 00:20:30.720 --> 00:20:33.599 I don't believe we're just going through the motions of a predetermined life. 201 00:20:34.640 --> 00:20:37.359 I do believe in free will. But like we've said, you know, 202 00:20:37.920 --> 00:20:41.759 there are cycles, and that's what astrology can help us see. Okay, 203 00:20:41.799 --> 00:20:45.279 where are we in this cycle? And then how can we work with that 204 00:20:45.359 --> 00:20:52.519 cycle in the most constructive and healthy way. So if Saturn is going through 205 00:20:52.519 --> 00:20:56.160 a challenging configuration with a health sector, for example, we can work with 206 00:20:56.240 --> 00:21:00.599 it, mitigate it, perhaps bring or light to it. And that's really 207 00:21:00.599 --> 00:21:04.680 where I like to come in with astrology is less like predicting the future, 208 00:21:04.920 --> 00:21:08.039 although it's fun and I enjoy doing it, especially for collective things, which 209 00:21:08.079 --> 00:21:11.039 I'd like to do, you know, in the show as well. But 210 00:21:14.160 --> 00:21:18.839 I really like to focus on the personal development standpoint, and that's what I 211 00:21:18.839 --> 00:21:22.319 really think astrology is best used for. Is how can you work with your 212 00:21:22.359 --> 00:21:27.400 blueprint, your sky when you were born, but also in these certain time 213 00:21:27.440 --> 00:21:33.119 periods where that gets activated in certain ways through these transits. How can we 214 00:21:33.160 --> 00:21:37.480 work with these years or these time periods constructively as well? Oh okay, 215 00:21:37.559 --> 00:21:48.160 excellent on that note, how do you suggest that your clients incorporate astrology into 216 00:21:48.200 --> 00:21:52.000 their lives? In other words, when you do the chart of an individual, 217 00:21:53.160 --> 00:21:56.680 I would think that you sit down with them and kind of go over 218 00:21:56.720 --> 00:22:02.519 the high points, and then do you record the work and send them with 219 00:22:03.200 --> 00:22:07.920 an audio tape as well as a printed layout of their of their constellations? 220 00:22:08.039 --> 00:22:15.519 Or how do you work with your clients all of the above. So the 221 00:22:15.599 --> 00:22:19.240 most common is to get a report. So I've created this report and it's 222 00:22:19.279 --> 00:22:25.359 basically the interpretations of that natal chart of this guy when they're born. And 223 00:22:25.359 --> 00:22:30.039 that's super helpful because it gives you a roadmap and it's printed and you can 224 00:22:30.079 --> 00:22:34.480 reference it. But of course I do one on one sessions as well through 225 00:22:34.559 --> 00:22:40.480 Zoom, just like this and MP three reading. So for those that don't 226 00:22:40.480 --> 00:22:42.599 want to, you know, have a face to face and would rather just 227 00:22:42.640 --> 00:22:47.680 listen to the interpretations that I say. Also, do an MP three recording 228 00:22:47.720 --> 00:22:51.559 where I just talked for about thirty minutes on you know everything I see for 229 00:22:51.599 --> 00:23:02.039 them, okay, and for the uninitiated person who's not familiar with astrology. 230 00:23:02.319 --> 00:23:11.319 When you provide a chart, are you suggesting if a person has an obvious 231 00:23:11.359 --> 00:23:17.079 issue with a health problem that could come up, or financial or relationship. 232 00:23:17.200 --> 00:23:23.519 Are you highlighting these high points low points or are you just reading it straightforward 233 00:23:23.680 --> 00:23:33.160 and you're waiting for the recipient the client to ask questions. Well, I'm 234 00:23:33.160 --> 00:23:36.720 always open to questions obviously, and you know that's how the readings are set 235 00:23:36.759 --> 00:23:38.759 up, like what would you like to focus on today? And you know, 236 00:23:38.839 --> 00:23:41.000 what areas of life would you like to look at? Of course, 237 00:23:41.480 --> 00:23:45.799 but I do have a methodology and that's the first look at the life path. 238 00:23:47.519 --> 00:23:49.559 So again the natal chart can show us this path, which is super 239 00:23:49.599 --> 00:23:55.039 helpful because when we do have these experiences, whatever the experience is, like 240 00:23:55.079 --> 00:24:00.720 you said, financial, you know, career, whatever, we can navigate 241 00:24:00.759 --> 00:24:03.759 it. And again that's bringing in the free will side. So I really 242 00:24:03.799 --> 00:24:07.119 like to look at the life path it helps us tremendously with making choices. 243 00:24:08.640 --> 00:24:12.000 It's often where we have forks in the road, a push and pull, 244 00:24:12.599 --> 00:24:17.839 where we feel the most stuck in our lives. So really, I find 245 00:24:17.839 --> 00:24:22.839 myself more and more just talking about the life path, because if we can 246 00:24:22.880 --> 00:24:26.119 get a good handle on that path and we know how to work with it, 247 00:24:26.920 --> 00:24:32.599 then all these other experiences are just sort of going through the you know, 248 00:24:32.640 --> 00:24:36.400 it's just a sort of opportunity, let's say, to readjust the life 249 00:24:36.400 --> 00:24:38.559 path. And more importantly, when the life path is in alignment, when 250 00:24:38.559 --> 00:24:42.079 it is balanced, when we are we're never off of it, but we 251 00:24:42.119 --> 00:24:47.599 are consciously in alignment with it, it really does bring more fulfillment to our 252 00:24:47.640 --> 00:24:51.359 lives. And not that we won't have, of course, life's challenges. 253 00:24:51.359 --> 00:24:55.160 We're supposed to be challenging ourselves in this life and that's very healthy. But 254 00:24:56.279 --> 00:25:02.599 you know, those feelings of being stuck, powerlessness, confusion, uncertainty. 255 00:25:03.480 --> 00:25:06.920 I believe you know, deep down, we all know what our life path 256 00:25:07.039 --> 00:25:10.440 is, we all know who we are, but we you know, we 257 00:25:10.480 --> 00:25:15.079 can get lost in the noise of things in life, and astrology is super 258 00:25:15.079 --> 00:25:18.680 helpful in helping sift away that noise. So that we can get back to 259 00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:22.640 that inner knowing, and that's really where I like to focus is on really 260 00:25:22.640 --> 00:25:30.759 giving the person that confirmation to connect to that deeper part of themselves that does 261 00:25:30.799 --> 00:25:33.440 already know what that path is and how to navigate and how to work with 262 00:25:33.480 --> 00:25:36.240 it. So a lot, you know, so from that clarity and all 263 00:25:36.279 --> 00:25:38.680 that, but that's what I like to focus on, and then hopefully from 264 00:25:38.680 --> 00:25:44.079 that one session, they won't need astrology anymore. To be honest, that's 265 00:25:44.119 --> 00:25:48.160 at least my goal. It's nice to look at the year and to see 266 00:25:48.200 --> 00:25:51.079 what the weather looks like. But at the end of the day, if 267 00:25:51.079 --> 00:25:55.279 you're in alignment with your path, you know, like I said, it 268 00:25:55.319 --> 00:25:59.160 just brings more fulfillment to life in general. Let me just ask you a 269 00:25:59.160 --> 00:26:03.279 real quick question and then we're going to move on to some national and global 270 00:26:04.839 --> 00:26:10.480 trends. If somebody comes to you who's had a great deal of problems with 271 00:26:10.599 --> 00:26:18.640 relationships, perhaps the multiple divorces, or are questioning a current relationship because they're 272 00:26:18.640 --> 00:26:23.720 getting some subtle hints about positive or negative, how can you help that individual? 273 00:26:26.200 --> 00:26:29.799 So again, we would you know, what I would like to do 274 00:26:29.920 --> 00:26:33.640 is go deep into the life path the person is you know that they're in 275 00:26:33.640 --> 00:26:37.640 a relationship with is some aere is playing a role somewhere on this journey, 276 00:26:37.640 --> 00:26:41.799 on this path, we want to figure out where that is. We want 277 00:26:41.799 --> 00:26:47.119 to figure out where the person is oriented in the relationship. Are they going 278 00:26:47.640 --> 00:26:51.960 too far into their past karma as the Hindus would say, the comfort zones 279 00:26:52.359 --> 00:26:56.039 the path behind us? Are they maybe too far into the path in front 280 00:26:56.079 --> 00:27:00.920 of them in the material world, maybe building too much karma? You know, 281 00:27:00.960 --> 00:27:06.640 So we can navigate the situation to figure out why it's challenging and then 282 00:27:06.839 --> 00:27:11.039 again make those calibrations and readjustments that are needed. Again, whether it's relationships 283 00:27:11.119 --> 00:27:17.119 or career or home or whatever the situation is, we can analyze that situation. 284 00:27:17.240 --> 00:27:19.720 In this case, maybe even analyze the other person and how they're again 285 00:27:19.880 --> 00:27:26.200 playing a role there to help us get some perspective and then make those recalibrations 286 00:27:26.200 --> 00:27:30.119 that are likely needed if there's you know, challenges going on. Okay, 287 00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:34.240 excellent, All right, let's talk about countries. Do you look at, 288 00:27:36.039 --> 00:27:40.839 say the United States as an individual, how do you because we're going to 289 00:27:40.920 --> 00:27:48.440 ask I'm going to ask you some questions about government and different countries in the 290 00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:52.279 future. Do you look at it like, say, the United States as 291 00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:56.880 an individual, you do a chart for the US. Yeah. Again, 292 00:27:56.920 --> 00:28:03.200 it's like, you know, anything that's born has sky when they were born. 293 00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:10.160 So the US has its constitution. I guess the Declaration of Independence seventeen 294 00:28:10.279 --> 00:28:15.319 seventy five, right, seventy six, Yeah, okay, so we would 295 00:28:15.400 --> 00:28:21.039 use the signing of the Declaration of Independence as the birth time, right right. 296 00:28:21.160 --> 00:28:22.480 You can do it for pets, you can do it for events, 297 00:28:22.680 --> 00:28:26.240 you can do it for businesses, you can do it for anything that has 298 00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:30.880 a birth. And again, it's not that it's an entity. I don't 299 00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:33.200 view it that the US is like an entity. I believe the individual is 300 00:28:33.200 --> 00:28:40.759 the entity. But it is something that started at that time. And so 301 00:28:40.920 --> 00:28:44.480 when something starts at that time again, it's holding that frequency, it's holding 302 00:28:44.480 --> 00:28:49.880 that natal chart, and that does get influenced after that again by the transits, 303 00:28:51.039 --> 00:28:53.599 you know, and we can see that the thing that is birth there 304 00:28:53.799 --> 00:28:57.480 has that energy of that natal chart. So absolutely, you know, the 305 00:28:59.039 --> 00:29:02.200 US has a natal chart. Other countries have it. Some other countries are 306 00:29:02.279 --> 00:29:04.519 much harder, you know, to differentiate what that is like in the UK, 307 00:29:04.640 --> 00:29:07.039 for example, like when was the birth of the UK, for example. 308 00:29:07.240 --> 00:29:11.359 Yeah, but you can, but you can still you know, use 309 00:29:11.480 --> 00:29:17.039 these beginnings of things to start to then analyze it and you know, make 310 00:29:17.119 --> 00:29:21.400 some predictions on it. Okay, let's talk about one that I think you 311 00:29:21.519 --> 00:29:26.200 suggested when we were working with you, which is a big event in the 312 00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:36.519 USA's Pluto return. Apparently it hasn't been seen since the seventeen hundreds, well 313 00:29:36.599 --> 00:29:41.799 seventeen seventy six to be precise. Ah. So this is how accurate astrology 314 00:29:41.839 --> 00:29:47.839 can be sometimes. So what happened during the birth of the United States was 315 00:29:48.759 --> 00:29:51.960 Pluto was entering the sign of Capricorn. Now, again for those of you 316 00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:55.720 listening who are maybe expecting me to say some different signs right now, or 317 00:29:55.759 --> 00:29:57.880 maybe you thought the Pluto return was a couple of years ago. Again, 318 00:29:57.920 --> 00:30:03.359 we are using the visibles and it is very different from mainstream astrology, and 319 00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:07.319 you're not going to hear this in the mainstream, okay, but if you 320 00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:12.400 literally go outside or use a planetarium, you will see Pluto is entering Capricorn. 321 00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:18.920 And the last time this happened was during the birth of the United States. 322 00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:22.279 Now, this is very significant because, as you said, it's not 323 00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:26.799 just one country, it's the whole world had Pluto going into Capricorn. Now 324 00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:32.279 the US has this energy for its whole existence, but the whole world was 325 00:30:32.319 --> 00:30:36.240 going through this energy. So what is Pluto? What is Capricorn? So 326 00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:42.720 Pluto is considered the last body we look at in astrology, which represents final 327 00:30:42.759 --> 00:30:49.440 transformation. Pluto, for those of you into mythology, may know the mythology 328 00:30:49.440 --> 00:30:55.200 behind that, or Hades as it was in Greek mythology, as the god 329 00:30:55.240 --> 00:31:00.599 of the underworld, the afterlife and death and transformation. So wherever this planet 330 00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:07.440 goes, there tends to be transformation, just put simply. And Capricorn, 331 00:31:07.640 --> 00:31:12.079 the sign of Capricorn is all about systems and structures. So in a societal 332 00:31:12.160 --> 00:31:18.559 sense, it rules governments, it rules political systems, it rules pretty much 333 00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:21.519 any kind of system and structure that we depend on. So it's a very 334 00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:26.640 important sign, you know, collectively obviously, So what happened during the birth 335 00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:30.279 of the United States, and by the way, Pluto and Capricorn is a 336 00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:36.960 multi decade transit. Okay, so it's not just that year, but what 337 00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:41.559 we saw starting in seventeen seventy six and for the next roughly twenty years, 338 00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:48.839 was a complete transformation of the political systems. So prior to the late seventeen 339 00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:56.480 hundreds, the world was dominated by monarchy pretty much. Then the US went 340 00:31:56.519 --> 00:32:02.359 into a republic. This caused Europe in many countries to do the same and 341 00:32:02.440 --> 00:32:07.480 a complete transformation. Now you could say monarchy is still in existence, but 342 00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:09.400 certainly not in the way that it was. And if you look at the 343 00:32:09.440 --> 00:32:15.400 French revolutions, you look at all the independence movements, you know, republics 344 00:32:15.640 --> 00:32:22.440 being born. This is all the byproduct of Pluto and Capricorn. So the 345 00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:27.240 US is an embodiment of this right, the US Constitution and everything about freedom, 346 00:32:27.279 --> 00:32:30.640 individual rights and all this, but it was something going on collectively. 347 00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:37.440 So this is what we're going through again. Pluto is now entering Capricorn, 348 00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:39.799 which means it's the US Pluto return. We call it a return because Pluto 349 00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:44.440 is coming back to where it was in that natal chart when the US is 350 00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:47.160 born. So we can expect the same. Now, I'm not the same. 351 00:32:47.240 --> 00:32:52.680 Obviously history does not repeat, but it does rhyme. So I'm not 352 00:32:52.759 --> 00:32:55.880 expecting you know, bloody revolutions like the French Revolution or anything like this, 353 00:32:57.960 --> 00:33:04.160 but certainly similar in that it's time to transform the current systems and everyone feels 354 00:33:04.160 --> 00:33:07.240 it, and everyone knows it, and it's just everyone knows we're on the 355 00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:09.759 cusp of it. So over the next you know, twenty years, this 356 00:33:09.839 --> 00:33:15.240 is what we'll see. Our political systems will likely be extremely different twenty years 357 00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:20.680 from now than they are now or have been since the late seventeen hundreds. 358 00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:24.799 We have noticed some patterns here that we might actually go back to a more 359 00:33:24.960 --> 00:33:34.480 monarch or centralized control system as a possibility. I say that because there seems 360 00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:39.440 to be an oscillation. So the Age of Enlightenment was the last time we 361 00:33:39.480 --> 00:33:44.279 had the Pluto, you know, just when it started coming out of the 362 00:33:44.359 --> 00:33:51.519 Dark Ages, and then prior to that was the Roman Empire transitioning into different 363 00:33:51.559 --> 00:33:54.920 forms, you know, entering into the Dark Ages. So we see this 364 00:33:55.000 --> 00:34:02.799 kind of oscillation between more controlled systems and then or freer systems. So hopefully 365 00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:07.599 it's not too much controlled and you know, and again it's not going to 366 00:34:07.640 --> 00:34:13.679 be anything that's repeating exactly, but we could say that the earth might be, 367 00:34:13.800 --> 00:34:19.719 you know, civilizations might be oscillating between what we might call like I 368 00:34:19.800 --> 00:34:22.440 don't know, you know, like a kind of you know, more controlled 369 00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:28.239 government and then you know, more individual rights or freedom types of governments, 370 00:34:28.280 --> 00:34:30.880 because you know, it all goes back, you know, as far back 371 00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:35.920 as Greece in this case, and we started having these kinds of governments. 372 00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:43.239 But but yeah, anyways, either way, transformations and it's a process. 373 00:34:43.480 --> 00:34:47.440 But the energy is actually starting this year. Pluto does enter into Capricorn just 374 00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:52.599 this February. I've been talking about this a lot for the past years. 375 00:34:52.639 --> 00:34:59.039 It's it's this year and Pluto will officially enter in December. So these months 376 00:34:59.039 --> 00:35:02.719 don't mean anything, say, because the plant that there's no line between the 377 00:35:02.760 --> 00:35:07.639 constellations, So the planet Pluto, it's not like he just you know, 378 00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:12.079 enters and then all of a sudden this happens. It's like a barometer, 379 00:35:12.280 --> 00:35:16.320 it's a spectrum. But the energy is certainly starting this year. Do you 380 00:35:16.480 --> 00:35:25.800 see a trend where we need to rewrite the constitution or added the laws replaced 381 00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:34.760 within the constitution that add and allow for more change that you're suggesting, Oh 382 00:35:34.840 --> 00:35:37.000 do I what? I'm sorry, Well, I mean, are you looking 383 00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:51.119 or projecting changes in the American Constitution and the laws being changed also? I 384 00:35:51.159 --> 00:35:53.840 mean, I mean, I personally hope not because I think they're based on 385 00:35:53.960 --> 00:36:01.599 natural laws, natural rights, but I think there's certainly going to be transformations 386 00:36:01.639 --> 00:36:07.199 to the way we use it. The Constitution is of course more than the 387 00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:12.519 Bill of Rights, So the Constitution absolutely, I think hopefully, Like I 388 00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:17.480 said, the Bill of Rights stays me personally, but yeah, either way, 389 00:36:17.639 --> 00:36:22.760 I think we could be seeing a complete change to the political system of 390 00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:28.159 the United States, hopefully again, you know, not too much. Countries 391 00:36:28.199 --> 00:36:30.639 like the UK, you know, I'm foreseeing that they'll probably get rid of 392 00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:37.079 the monarch completely. Maybe in other places as well, Australia, places like 393 00:36:37.159 --> 00:36:42.960 this, Europe I think will have each country would very much be transforming. 394 00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:46.519 And then we'll see in the East. You know, it's possible that obviously 395 00:36:46.559 --> 00:36:52.519 a country like China could could adopt more maybe republic kind of principles, you 396 00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:55.199 know, is possible as well. So I am expecting that. Yeah, 397 00:36:55.320 --> 00:37:00.800 and across the board. So in the United States, we have a fairly 398 00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:08.599 divided political system. I think recently the Speaker of the House is being more 399 00:37:10.119 --> 00:37:17.480 compromised, focused more on compromising and getting laws passed between the Democrats and the 400 00:37:17.519 --> 00:37:22.079 Republicans. We don't want to get political on the program, but this is 401 00:37:22.360 --> 00:37:28.039 a big year for the United States, and that it's the presidential election, 402 00:37:29.320 --> 00:37:38.000 and this is bringing up a lot of questions about what the future holds for 403 00:37:38.079 --> 00:37:43.960 the United States. You're giving us a hint that the political system is going 404 00:37:44.039 --> 00:37:49.400 to change over a period of time. Obviously it won't be over twelve months, 405 00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:53.199 but you're foreseeing that this is the beginning of a shakeup, right, 406 00:37:53.880 --> 00:38:02.079 and so within that shakeup, I just want to re kind of pass over 407 00:38:02.119 --> 00:38:09.599 it again. What's going to change? Uh? Within other than the political 408 00:38:09.599 --> 00:38:16.920 system that you're suggesting. Uh? Is is it going to be some other 409 00:38:17.000 --> 00:38:23.599 systems that are we that are adopted or is it just an evolving spectrum situation. 410 00:38:25.400 --> 00:38:28.880 Yeah, like you said, I mean, it's it's systems across the 411 00:38:28.920 --> 00:38:32.480 board. So now we can look at it maybe from the corporate perspective, 412 00:38:32.559 --> 00:38:37.239 you know, in the US, you know, we've got these companies that 413 00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:45.440 are still holding onto power basically, so I'm expecting complete transformations of you know, 414 00:38:46.400 --> 00:38:52.920 societal power, because that's a Pluto represents where we can transform and it 415 00:38:53.000 --> 00:38:57.800 brings in power and control and all these things of course, and and anything 416 00:38:57.800 --> 00:39:02.119 that's holding onto the existing structure the most difficulty with it. So I think, 417 00:39:02.199 --> 00:39:07.800 you know, it's good collectively to be open to change with this transit 418 00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:12.679 in our own personal lives, to be transforming our own structures, our own 419 00:39:12.760 --> 00:39:16.920 dependencies, the things we've built, to be open to that. And that's 420 00:39:17.000 --> 00:39:22.440 the you know, the individual personal development side. Societally, I think we 421 00:39:22.440 --> 00:39:24.079 should all be working together. I think no matter what, at the end 422 00:39:24.119 --> 00:39:30.719 of the day, no matter what your political ideology is, we all want 423 00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:34.400 the same thing. We all want the same outcome for the most part, 424 00:39:34.800 --> 00:39:39.920 as in individual freedom, I would imagine, so we can work together. 425 00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:46.760 I think working together in community and that's something that you know, we can 426 00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:51.320 see as well because we have Uranus and Taurus, which I want to talk 427 00:39:51.320 --> 00:39:54.519 about briefly as well, which is which is a big one. But you 428 00:39:54.559 --> 00:40:00.239 know, we can come together to make the changes constructive. It doesn't again 429 00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:06.159 have to be a bloody revolution or anything like this, or civil war or 430 00:40:06.199 --> 00:40:07.719 something like this. Again, I don't think history is going to repeat in 431 00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:14.920 that way because we've evolved and so we don't have to fight wars literally anymore. 432 00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:20.920 As we've seen we don't need to do that. So using energy constructively, 433 00:40:20.960 --> 00:40:23.519 being willing to change, getting together for change, being open to change, 434 00:40:24.519 --> 00:40:30.000 finding solutions for it. In the most harmonious and constructive way possible. 435 00:40:30.559 --> 00:40:37.920 That's what would have avoided the really deadly and really intense stuff we saw in 436 00:40:37.920 --> 00:40:44.679 the late seventeen hundreds. So now that's society is advanced more with information, 437 00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:46.880 with technology and all this, it doesn't have to be this way. So 438 00:40:46.960 --> 00:40:52.800 I would say anything that's about connecting, sharing ideas and being open and having 439 00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:57.079 these kinds of discussions no matter what the ideology is, I think is the 440 00:40:57.119 --> 00:41:01.360 most important thing. So all in all, being open to change and implementing 441 00:41:01.360 --> 00:41:06.840 it constructively and positively. And yeah, not just in the political system, 442 00:41:06.920 --> 00:41:12.079 but through every kind of system right now that is just old and outworn and 443 00:41:12.679 --> 00:41:15.400 needs to go. You know, I think we can do that together. 444 00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:22.880 Yet, we're going to take a short commercial break and allow our sponsors to 445 00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:29.800 identify themselves, and we will return shortly with my guest today, Ethan Chimente 446 00:41:30.079 --> 00:42:13.480 talking to us about siderial or Hindu astrology. We'll be right back. My 447 00:42:13.559 --> 00:42:20.559 guest today is Athan Cimente. He is a Saderio astrologer. This is the 448 00:42:20.760 --> 00:42:25.480 ancient version of the commonly used astrology that we pick up in our newspapers. 449 00:42:25.480 --> 00:42:30.119 This is much more accurate and He's given us a sense of what's happening. 450 00:42:30.159 --> 00:42:34.480 What are some of the things we can expect in twenty twenty four and beyond. 451 00:42:36.880 --> 00:42:39.559 Let's talk about some trends that are happening in the United States. One 452 00:42:39.559 --> 00:42:45.159 of the big ones I'm really curious about is artificial intelligence, simply because it's 453 00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:54.920 being and I'm moving beyond chat, CPT or GPT and getting into the incorporation 454 00:42:55.039 --> 00:43:00.800 of artificial intelligence and everything. What do you see for that starting with this 455 00:43:00.960 --> 00:43:08.639 year? Right? So this was another true sidereal alignment because as soon as 456 00:43:08.679 --> 00:43:14.880 this whole AI think started wrapping up a year ago, Saturn entered Aquarius. 457 00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:20.599 So we spotted this cycle of Saturn and Aquarius. So Saturn is the planet 458 00:43:20.639 --> 00:43:24.960 of structures and things we build, but Aquarius is about technology and innovative stuff. 459 00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:28.840 It also rules things of the sky and aliens and all kinds of other 460 00:43:29.360 --> 00:43:37.199 things that are very different that can really change society. The last time we 461 00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:42.519 had Saturn and Aquarius was when was in the mid nineties when everyone started to 462 00:43:42.519 --> 00:43:51.920 transition into the online realm with AOL and email and chat and all that. 463 00:43:52.559 --> 00:43:54.639 So we're seeing the same pattern there. So yeah, so this is very 464 00:43:54.760 --> 00:43:58.519 likely. So Saturn has been here for years. Saturn will still be here 465 00:43:58.519 --> 00:44:01.960 through the whole rest of the year, and so I'm expecting it to be 466 00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:07.239 a very similar to the mid nineties, just the foundation. So obviously, 467 00:44:08.280 --> 00:44:12.920 again we're talking about cycles, so every time a planet comes into an area, 468 00:44:13.000 --> 00:44:16.320 it starts the cycle. So cycle is still being birthed this year and 469 00:44:16.360 --> 00:44:20.840 next year. We could say we're in the halfway point of the birthing of 470 00:44:20.880 --> 00:44:25.280 it, which would mean that what we're probably going to see over the next 471 00:44:25.480 --> 00:44:30.679 for Saturday, in the next twenty nine years will be the things we see 472 00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:32.719 get birthed last year and this year, which, as you said, is 473 00:44:32.840 --> 00:44:37.519 very likely to be AI. So it's very likely that what we're seeing is 474 00:44:38.199 --> 00:44:45.079 a new way of communicating, a new Internet, if you will, all 475 00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:50.440 this stuff we're seeing with automation and robotics. In other words, we're probably 476 00:44:50.440 --> 00:44:53.239 not going to see any which like literal new things after twenty twenty four, 477 00:44:53.840 --> 00:44:58.840 as much as we're going to see the building of what's already been birthed in 478 00:44:58.880 --> 00:45:00.960 twenty three and twenty four. In other words, much like the Internet has 479 00:45:01.000 --> 00:45:07.360 evolved so much for those twenty nine years, we could still see that it 480 00:45:07.519 --> 00:45:10.440 was birthed in the mid nineties, so good time to pay attention for that, 481 00:45:10.880 --> 00:45:16.400 and again to do this in our own lives, to use technology to 482 00:45:16.440 --> 00:45:22.679 the utmost, learn as much as possible about innovative things right now, really 483 00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:27.119 start the process as quickly as possible, get ahead of the curve. I 484 00:45:27.159 --> 00:45:30.239 think that's going to really help a bunch of people and businesses and whatnot. 485 00:45:31.280 --> 00:45:34.840 And again, it's all part of the larger cycle, so we'll see new 486 00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:37.360 companies, obviously, new things coming out of this, new technologies obviously we're 487 00:45:37.400 --> 00:45:43.599 seeing, but it's all in the very very early stages and probably a transition 488 00:45:43.719 --> 00:45:45.960 out of the previous cycle. So you know, we're probably not going to 489 00:45:46.039 --> 00:45:51.239 use the Internet by the end of the cycle, is my guess. For 490 00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:53.519 example, the Internet will probably be more like the library where you only have 491 00:45:53.599 --> 00:45:58.280 to go, you know, search for things if you're doing like research or 492 00:45:58.320 --> 00:46:02.920 something. So what you're suggesting, understand, uh, Ethan, is the 493 00:46:02.599 --> 00:46:14.000 the the AI will come in and it's adoption will basically render the Internet obsolete. 494 00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:19.039 And you're talking about forms of communication where you ask a question and you 495 00:46:19.079 --> 00:46:22.559 get immediate data from an AI source. Is that what you're suggesting that's what 496 00:46:22.599 --> 00:46:27.320 I think. Yeah. So obviously the internet is it was is part of 497 00:46:27.360 --> 00:46:31.079 it. So, but the Internet will be more like the neurons of the 498 00:46:31.079 --> 00:46:37.199 AI. You know. It's it's it's it's like getting cloud cloud cloud data 499 00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:38.679 is what it will be. Yeah, exactly. So it's getting all the 500 00:46:38.679 --> 00:46:43.519 information from the Internet and you can feed it information to the net and you 501 00:46:43.559 --> 00:46:45.239 can go look at its brain thro the in net, you know. But 502 00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:49.280 I just mean, you know, in the way that we've used the Internet, 503 00:46:49.280 --> 00:46:52.639 where you like with a mouse go to the to a website and make 504 00:46:52.679 --> 00:46:55.400 a purchase or whatever, you just won't have to do that. You know, 505 00:46:55.440 --> 00:47:00.199 You'll just say, hey, I need some new socks, and the 506 00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:02.800 AI will say, okay, it'll be to your house in well maybe in 507 00:47:02.840 --> 00:47:07.360 a couple hours because we'll have drums, you know, but whatever. It 508 00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:14.480 will be more I think conversational, more, you know, maybe glasses or 509 00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:16.039 something. I don't know. But the point is is what we're seeing these 510 00:47:16.039 --> 00:47:21.360 couple of years is extremely important for the foundation of technology for the next twenty 511 00:47:21.440 --> 00:47:24.360 nine years for sure, and also a transition from the previous twenty nine into 512 00:47:24.360 --> 00:47:28.880 this new twenty nine. Let's look at it from the other side for a 513 00:47:28.920 --> 00:47:37.960 minute, there's a great deal of fear of a AI that is ultimately the 514 00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:45.119 demise of human civilization. I think that's more of a negative aspect. But 515 00:47:45.800 --> 00:47:50.960 can you address the fear that a lot of people have when you have a 516 00:47:51.079 --> 00:48:01.920 self replicating entity in a way, not necessarily with a soul, pure technology, 517 00:48:02.039 --> 00:48:10.320 but perhaps some scientists is able to imprint human cells or something and all 518 00:48:10.320 --> 00:48:15.000 of a sudden it can replicate. And I'm just giving you the worst case 519 00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:19.599 scenario. What do you see on that at all? No, that's that's 520 00:48:19.639 --> 00:48:22.880 exactly how I say. No, I'm scared. You know, you know, 521 00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:25.840 there's things to be constructively scared about. I don't like fear, and 522 00:48:25.880 --> 00:48:30.119 I don't like promoting fear, but there are things to be concerned about, 523 00:48:30.119 --> 00:48:34.239 and I think it's definitely one of them. Yeah, I mean you don't 524 00:48:34.280 --> 00:48:37.920 even need cells to do it, because with robotics, I mean, you 525 00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:43.920 know, we're basically the way I see is, we're basically birthing a new 526 00:48:44.039 --> 00:48:50.840 species and in many ways we'll be superior to humans. Not in a fundamental 527 00:48:50.880 --> 00:48:52.400 sense. I don't believe in a fundamental sense at all. I don't think 528 00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:59.199 that we could birth something that is fundamentally in a natural sense, you know, 529 00:48:59.760 --> 00:49:06.599 more powerful than us in like a spiritual way particularly, But we are 530 00:49:06.679 --> 00:49:10.719 birthing i think, a new species, and it's very important that we you 531 00:49:10.760 --> 00:49:16.440 know, maintain as much control in this process. But it is inevitable. 532 00:49:16.679 --> 00:49:22.280 So again, the systems and structures, I mean, it's all, you 533 00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:23.639 know, it's all part of the same site. You know, it's just 534 00:49:23.920 --> 00:49:30.159 different cycles and it's all telling a story here. And you know, I 535 00:49:30.159 --> 00:49:32.599 think just society as we've seen it is going to be changing over the next 536 00:49:32.599 --> 00:49:36.320 twenty years. And you know, it's very likely that you know, for 537 00:49:36.400 --> 00:49:40.119 example, we just don't have to work and there is like a universal basic 538 00:49:40.159 --> 00:49:45.480 income, and we are living in a more socialist or monarch type of situation 539 00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:52.679 where you have like lords and vassals again where like landownership becomes everything because well 540 00:49:52.840 --> 00:49:57.039 labor is not worth worth anything anymore, so it's really just comes down to 541 00:49:57.119 --> 00:50:02.639 resources. So it similar you know, to that. But at the end 542 00:50:02.679 --> 00:50:05.679 of the day, again, this is why it's good to be adaptive and 543 00:50:05.719 --> 00:50:10.400 flexible and again build a system that benefits everybody and not just the elites. 544 00:50:13.000 --> 00:50:16.280 We're obviously trying to maintain all the power, which is why we're seeing such 545 00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:22.719 as squeezing in society. But again this can transform for the better, just 546 00:50:22.760 --> 00:50:25.239 the same way it did, you know, in the late seventeen hundreds. 547 00:50:25.320 --> 00:50:30.119 So either way, I see, you know, I don't see the death 548 00:50:30.119 --> 00:50:32.599 of humanity or the destruction of humanity or anything, or even in a grand 549 00:50:32.599 --> 00:50:37.239 scale at all. If you look at the grander scheme of things, we've 550 00:50:37.280 --> 00:50:42.159 been in a spiral up trend. Now it's not always up, but I 551 00:50:42.199 --> 00:50:45.159 say trend because it's up and down. But the trend has been up for 552 00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:50.480 individual freedoms for sure, Like if you look at the birth of civilization, 553 00:50:52.079 --> 00:50:58.119 individual freedoms have been incrementally increasing since then. So I think it's all for 554 00:50:58.199 --> 00:51:01.239 the best. We just yeah, have to be careful so we don't have 555 00:51:01.280 --> 00:51:08.039 too much what's the word casualties or what's the word flashback of you know, 556 00:51:08.599 --> 00:51:17.760 shrapnel from this new technology. Yeah, I think there's something very positive about 557 00:51:17.800 --> 00:51:22.920 it, but I think there has to be guidance in place. On that 558 00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:28.440 note, and you kind of hinted on it. The economy of super wealth 559 00:51:29.239 --> 00:51:36.800 and on the other side, people who are deeply in despair and for lack 560 00:51:36.840 --> 00:51:44.480 of education, for lack of resources have fallen into this subcategory of poverty, 561 00:51:44.639 --> 00:51:49.280 which is becoming more prevalent in the United States. How do you see, 562 00:51:50.519 --> 00:51:55.559 say, the next five years, including twenty twenty four, for the people 563 00:51:55.559 --> 00:52:00.840 who live in the United States, it will be a bit more sol programs 564 00:52:00.880 --> 00:52:07.159 to help them. Is government looking because it doesn't look like government's looking right 565 00:52:07.199 --> 00:52:09.639 now at the average Joe. It's kind of like you're on your own. 566 00:52:10.119 --> 00:52:15.280 Here's a few social programs. I will say this though. The baby boomers 567 00:52:16.320 --> 00:52:24.039 are a huge, huge part of the population, and there are some social 568 00:52:24.440 --> 00:52:34.559 programs in place, but social security doesn't provide a parachute a landing for a 569 00:52:34.559 --> 00:52:37.239 lot of people, and a lot of people are expecting that as a source 570 00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:44.159 of income. To talk a little bit about United States social programs and the 571 00:52:44.360 --> 00:52:49.519 inequities of super rich and the super poor. Yeah, and I'll talk about 572 00:52:49.519 --> 00:52:53.360 it for the whole Western world. I mean the whole world because it is 573 00:52:53.440 --> 00:53:00.000 part of this Uranus in Taurus. So Taurus is the consolation of finance. 574 00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:04.360 Okay, in the zodiac when you're looking at it collectively like this, So 575 00:53:04.480 --> 00:53:10.199 economics financed what we consider money value resources at the most fundamental level. Night 576 00:53:10.280 --> 00:53:15.119 natural resources and fundamental level. So Uranus is going in here. Now Urness 577 00:53:15.159 --> 00:53:20.559 is the technology planet, so there's going to be lots of innovations here for 578 00:53:20.639 --> 00:53:24.440 his what will be eight year actually more like ten year transit, which is 579 00:53:24.480 --> 00:53:28.440 again also starting this year, which is again why I've been talking so much 580 00:53:28.440 --> 00:53:32.079 about this year for so many years. But Urine, it starts to enter 581 00:53:32.159 --> 00:53:38.199 here in a in May or yeah, April, he'll con join Jupiter. 582 00:53:38.280 --> 00:53:43.760 In May, he'll start to enter, which suggests that we're going to see 583 00:53:43.760 --> 00:53:45.559 a lot of innovation here. So obviously, you know, it goes without 584 00:53:45.599 --> 00:53:51.400 saying we're going to see more technology with finance. I mean it's going to 585 00:53:51.440 --> 00:53:55.440 take the form of what we've seen so far as cryptocurrency. But obviously it's 586 00:53:55.480 --> 00:53:59.920 going to happen in a societal sense where you've already got governments like the Year 587 00:54:00.320 --> 00:54:07.920 Union talking about cbdc's you know, central bank digital currencies and basically a system 588 00:54:07.159 --> 00:54:14.400 where the central this is what they want, and I hope it doesn't turn 589 00:54:14.480 --> 00:54:20.039 into this personally because it's just more centralized power, but what they want. 590 00:54:21.039 --> 00:54:23.719 I think the endgame there for them in the banking system and the financial system 591 00:54:24.159 --> 00:54:30.239 is that each of the central banks will issue these currencies digitally, so they 592 00:54:30.280 --> 00:54:36.519 can have direct control over the printing. But the problem with the way they're 593 00:54:36.519 --> 00:54:38.920 printing money now is that it takes so long to have an effect on the 594 00:54:38.960 --> 00:54:45.400 economy because it doesn't go straight to the people. Like you're saying, they 595 00:54:45.440 --> 00:54:49.519 want complete control. They want to they want to basically push a button and 596 00:54:49.559 --> 00:54:52.719 have everyone spend money, and then push another button have everyone stop or slow 597 00:54:52.760 --> 00:54:57.440 it. Not even everyone. They want they want to like completely micro manage 598 00:54:57.480 --> 00:55:01.760 this whole thing, and they can do it with with the blockchain. If 599 00:55:01.800 --> 00:55:10.440 the central bank creates a CBDC and everyone's on a form of universal basic income 600 00:55:12.400 --> 00:55:20.039 and the central bank is basically providing those funds to everybody, they can directly 601 00:55:20.039 --> 00:55:23.159 control inflation. And I think that's what they want. I think inflation is 602 00:55:23.159 --> 00:55:28.239 obviously going to continue the whole financial and I hope the financial system transforms during 603 00:55:28.280 --> 00:55:32.440 this which is again next ten years. But of course, if you look 604 00:55:32.480 --> 00:55:37.360 at the any fiat system, which all the governments are using Fiat systems, 605 00:55:38.400 --> 00:55:45.440 they're all inflationary, and so this just destroys wealth and you can't, you 606 00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:49.400 know, you have to basically work twice it's all debt based system. You 607 00:55:49.440 --> 00:55:52.559 have to work twice as hard tomorrow, and then the next time twice is 608 00:55:52.599 --> 00:55:54.960 hard, and the next day twice is hard in order to keep up with 609 00:55:55.039 --> 00:55:59.559 this beast of a system because you have to keep paying the debt back every 610 00:55:59.559 --> 00:56:04.119 time some thing gets printed. So anyways, I hope that that Fiat debt 611 00:56:04.119 --> 00:56:07.920 based system goes away. But the point here is I think, yeah, 612 00:56:07.960 --> 00:56:09.320 it's gonna be a lot of innovation. So individually, I think it's such 613 00:56:09.360 --> 00:56:15.039 a good time for everyone to get financial education in general, to you know, 614 00:56:15.199 --> 00:56:23.079 use technologies in money that are more individual based, freedom based, you 615 00:56:23.119 --> 00:56:31.519 know, freedom of choice versus adopting and just buying into something that's the central 616 00:56:32.719 --> 00:56:37.880 Really, who I see is the elite or the banking elite getting a system 617 00:56:37.960 --> 00:56:45.159 system where everyone's dependent on them and they're just getting that money sent directly from 618 00:56:45.159 --> 00:56:52.599 the government to them, and and you know the shot everything they buy, 619 00:56:52.639 --> 00:56:57.280 everything you purchase would be obviously tracked through the blockchain. It's just a very 620 00:56:57.320 --> 00:57:01.880 bad situation to have that much can control over individuals. If you think about 621 00:57:02.159 --> 00:57:07.159 controlling what people spend, or social credit system like in China where they can 622 00:57:07.199 --> 00:57:10.039 just turn off your money, turn off your account, or pay you based 623 00:57:10.119 --> 00:57:16.760 on your your social status, you know number. This is all possible with 624 00:57:16.800 --> 00:57:22.079 the technology around the corner. So again another area where I hope that we 625 00:57:22.119 --> 00:57:27.519 can all get educated on how this technology can be used constructively, because obviously 626 00:57:27.599 --> 00:57:31.639 blockchain is a very beneficial system that can be used very well, uh, 627 00:57:31.840 --> 00:57:36.440 you know, for the benefit of everyone. And to do that, I 628 00:57:36.480 --> 00:57:40.880 think it's such a good time to take the reins on this one and you 629 00:57:40.920 --> 00:57:46.840 know, utilize this innovation in a way that's you know, constructive and breeds 630 00:57:46.880 --> 00:57:54.519 more freedom instead of more top down control. When you say financial freedom technology, 631 00:57:54.559 --> 00:58:00.199 are you looking or suggesting that people you said it just now educate themselves 632 00:58:00.280 --> 00:58:14.239 on the financial outlooks but high yield savings or iras or things like that, 633 00:58:14.679 --> 00:58:19.079 or is there something else you're referring to. Well, at the end of 634 00:58:19.119 --> 00:58:23.760 the day, like the money itself doesn't really it's just a means of exchanging 635 00:58:23.760 --> 00:58:29.440 goods and services. So I'm so glad you just said that, because what 636 00:58:29.519 --> 00:58:31.519 I really want to say about this, yeareness and Taurus, because again, 637 00:58:31.559 --> 00:58:38.679 Taurus is about fundamentally resources and it's about hopefully individual resources. I really hope 638 00:58:38.800 --> 00:58:46.280 is that everyone becomes less dependent on the system and more self reliance, but 639 00:58:46.360 --> 00:58:52.039 not individually, I'm talking in communities, you know. So I hope that 640 00:58:52.159 --> 00:58:58.320 the world goes into a more nature based system where we can start to become 641 00:58:58.360 --> 00:59:04.719 a little bit more attuned to nature, so growing around food, having community 642 00:59:04.760 --> 00:59:14.800 gardens, growing more sustainably, not this mass agriculture that is destroying the planet, 643 00:59:15.119 --> 00:59:22.440 more intimate, more community situations of producing resources this way, right, 644 00:59:22.519 --> 00:59:25.920 And I think that's going to be a byproduct for sure over the next ten 645 00:59:27.000 --> 00:59:30.519 years. I just hope that it's much larger than that. And of course 646 00:59:30.559 --> 00:59:32.599 cities can do this, so I'm not against obviously, like you know, 647 00:59:32.960 --> 00:59:36.840 larger, but once you get to federal levels and stuff, you know, 648 00:59:36.880 --> 00:59:40.119 I think by that point it's just it's too large. That's why smaller countries 649 00:59:40.760 --> 00:59:45.199 tend to do better with socialism because they're more intimate and they know each other 650 00:59:45.199 --> 00:59:51.679 and it's about community. So anyways, more community, you know, and 651 00:59:52.920 --> 00:59:59.079 more self reliance, whether it's energy, whether it's food, water, more 652 00:59:59.119 --> 01:00:02.880 local, more nature based, more natural. Uh, this is what I 653 01:00:02.920 --> 01:00:07.519 hope to see. So so a sort of combination of you know, having 654 01:00:07.599 --> 01:00:15.400 a more natural, nature based system and also just being educated financially in the 655 01:00:15.440 --> 01:00:21.800 sense of utilizing resources constructively, because, like I said, this whole system 656 01:00:22.119 --> 01:00:27.239 is a completely irresponsible way of working with money. When your money is getting 657 01:00:27.239 --> 01:00:30.280 inflated, I mean, it's you know it, this is why things work 658 01:00:30.360 --> 01:00:35.679 so well, like when we had gold standards and like, you know, 659 01:00:35.880 --> 01:00:40.400 things based more on actual physical commodities. This is going this is going to 660 01:00:40.480 --> 01:00:45.119 basically a collapse of the fiat system at some point. You know, you 661 01:00:45.159 --> 01:00:50.639 can't just keep printing exponentially. I expect that to go on forever. So 662 01:00:50.679 --> 01:00:58.679 I do hope that there's also going back to a more natural based currency system. 663 01:00:58.800 --> 01:01:00.400 Let's saying it has to be gold or whatever. You know, even 664 01:01:00.400 --> 01:01:05.519 bitcoin is more natural, way more natural than fiat because there's only a certain 665 01:01:05.559 --> 01:01:10.119 amount and it's you know, can't be inflated away like that. So anyways, 666 01:01:10.320 --> 01:01:15.280 this kind of financial education in a sense of resources, but also how 667 01:01:15.320 --> 01:01:20.199 does money work and how can we work with money in a way that's very 668 01:01:20.239 --> 01:01:24.119 constructive so that we're not destroying our future like with debt based systems or our 669 01:01:24.239 --> 01:01:29.599 kids really, which is really a shame. I want to just touch on 670 01:01:29.599 --> 01:01:32.719 one thing, and I'm interested in your response. I think I heard the 671 01:01:32.760 --> 01:01:42.679 other day that the American debt is something like thirty plus trillion dollars and that 672 01:01:43.360 --> 01:01:49.880 what we pay each year is just the interest. How is that going to 673 01:01:49.920 --> 01:01:52.199 play out? I mean, at some point we're going to have to pay 674 01:01:52.239 --> 01:02:00.159 that down so that it's not so extremely and I think it also places a 675 01:02:00.239 --> 01:02:07.440 burden not only on government but on society, doesn't it. Yeah, so 676 01:02:07.480 --> 01:02:10.840 this debt will never be paid off, and that's something that everyone really should 677 01:02:12.000 --> 01:02:15.599 come to terms with because it's literally impossible. You literally can't with the system 678 01:02:15.800 --> 01:02:20.639 that we have, because it's a depth that every time the dollar, the 679 01:02:20.679 --> 01:02:22.960 government borrows a dollar, it owes a dollar back, and that's the only 680 01:02:23.000 --> 01:02:27.679 way a dollar gets created, or it gets created through your local bank when 681 01:02:27.719 --> 01:02:30.760 you go and get a loan. But either way, there's debt attached to 682 01:02:30.800 --> 01:02:34.920 every single dollar creation. So it's literally impossible to pay it off. So 683 01:02:35.079 --> 01:02:39.599 you're dealing with one of two situations. Either bankruptcy, so it's like an 684 01:02:39.639 --> 01:02:44.360 individual who maxes out all their credit cards, and then governments start going bankrupt, 685 01:02:44.559 --> 01:02:47.199 and that's you know, really what we're going to see are large governments 686 01:02:47.199 --> 01:02:51.760 like the US going to go bankrupt. Probably not, because well, you 687 01:02:51.800 --> 01:02:54.519 know, they have the global reserve currency right now and you know there's more 688 01:02:54.559 --> 01:02:59.840 faith in it. But along the way there will definitely be bankrupt nations. 689 01:03:00.199 --> 01:03:04.840 European unions already bailing countries out because they're going bankrupt basically, So you either 690 01:03:04.880 --> 01:03:09.480 go bankrupts or which means you don't pay it, which means everyone holding this 691 01:03:12.039 --> 01:03:15.599 bond, so everyone has all their money in bonds, which is really sad. 692 01:03:15.880 --> 01:03:20.760 That's just the government debt. But anyways, those people don't get paid 693 01:03:20.800 --> 01:03:25.440 back, or you inflated away. And if you look at history, the 694 01:03:25.480 --> 01:03:30.199 governments have always chosen the inflated inflating away since scenario. So they will just 695 01:03:30.280 --> 01:03:36.320 keep printing because what happens is the more they print, the less that money 696 01:03:36.360 --> 01:03:43.039 is worth. So if they owe whatever trillion gazillion dollars, you know, 697 01:03:43.039 --> 01:03:45.880 they could print it, and the more they print, the money's worthless. 698 01:03:45.960 --> 01:03:50.440 So they could literally, like in an extreme example, the US could just 699 01:03:50.480 --> 01:03:53.679 print the gazillion dollar bill tomorrow and use it to pay off all their debt. 700 01:03:54.079 --> 01:03:58.760 Yeah you know what I mean. So they'll inflate it away. That's 701 01:03:58.800 --> 01:04:00.760 what I think they'll do, And that's you know, again, really unfortunate. 702 01:04:00.840 --> 01:04:05.239 So that's why I'm recommending, you know, more financial freedom. So 703 01:04:05.360 --> 01:04:10.599 what I mean by that in this context is like, you know, as 704 01:04:10.679 --> 01:04:13.559 much as you can, and of course it's easier said than done, but 705 01:04:14.440 --> 01:04:18.599 being as little as little involved in the system, in the financial system as 706 01:04:18.639 --> 01:04:26.199 possible. Load load debt you mean, no, I mean like using dollars 707 01:04:26.320 --> 01:04:30.960 or euros. Oh, I mean like pricing things in this stuff, I 708 01:04:31.039 --> 01:04:34.400 mean holding it, saving it. I do believe that, you know, 709 01:04:34.400 --> 01:04:39.360 there's good assets to all and even like companies like stocks or good assets like 710 01:04:40.159 --> 01:04:45.599 but when you're in the system getting paid in this and if you're in a 711 01:04:45.599 --> 01:04:49.239 fixed income or you're expecting some sort of I'm sorry, but if you're expecting, 712 01:04:49.320 --> 01:04:56.119 like you know, you know, a check from the government, whether 713 01:04:56.159 --> 01:05:01.440 it's retirement or whatever, it is an inflationary system. It's practically worthless because 714 01:05:02.079 --> 01:05:06.199 it's just printed money, which means they print it and then by the time 715 01:05:06.239 --> 01:05:10.679 you get it, it just doesn't buy anything. This is this is what 716 01:05:10.719 --> 01:05:13.840 you see in hyperinflation. And I'm not saying it's going to necessarily go to 717 01:05:13.840 --> 01:05:17.320 these extremes, but this is what you see in places like Venezuela that go 718 01:05:17.400 --> 01:05:26.800 through this hyperinflationary situation. So more resources, more actual saving, and actual 719 01:05:26.920 --> 01:05:30.559 hard assets like tangible things or cryptocurrency. If it's like bitcoin and it's actually 720 01:05:31.800 --> 01:05:35.559 tested and you know it's been around it, you know it's not nothing's full 721 01:05:35.599 --> 01:05:41.360 proof, but it's finite in its amounts and it can't be printed by the 722 01:05:41.400 --> 01:05:46.480 governments. Things like this I think are smart moves. Okay, moving forward, 723 01:05:46.719 --> 01:05:51.440 Let's move on, because that's getting a little bit depressing. I mentioned 724 01:05:51.480 --> 01:06:00.800 to you at the beginning that I was interested in talking about disclosure contact. 725 01:06:00.960 --> 01:06:06.920 And there's a growing wave of unidentified aerial phenomenon and what it looks like as 726 01:06:06.960 --> 01:06:15.960 I study it is that these beings from whatever planetary systems that are coming from 727 01:06:15.159 --> 01:06:23.320 are obviously greatly in advance of us, but it looks like they are making 728 01:06:23.360 --> 01:06:28.079 an effort to show themselves a little more clearly. In other words, there's 729 01:06:28.320 --> 01:06:34.159 I've had astronomers from NASA on the program one or two who have taken pictures 730 01:06:34.199 --> 01:06:40.519 of these craft who are slowing down so that you can see the insignias, 731 01:06:41.760 --> 01:06:50.920 the various design features of their craft. There hasn't been an outward meeting kind 732 01:06:50.960 --> 01:06:57.039 of growth. But I'm just curious what you what the what the constellations show 733 01:06:57.119 --> 01:07:02.679 for some kind of more greater disclosure. Yeah, I mean, I think 734 01:07:02.719 --> 01:07:09.679 it's certainly possible because, like I said, Saturn is an Aquarius, and 735 01:07:09.719 --> 01:07:15.119 so the constellation that rolls the sky and everything celestial and aliens and all of 736 01:07:15.159 --> 01:07:19.880 it is Aquarius, and so it's possible. I will say this that if 737 01:07:19.920 --> 01:07:27.480 it doesn't happen this year, then it's not likely to happen for a while, 738 01:07:28.400 --> 01:07:32.360 a very long time. So yeah, so I think it's definitely a 739 01:07:32.360 --> 01:07:35.960 possibility this year, and we'll see how it plays out to what extent. 740 01:07:38.559 --> 01:07:43.360 But it is the time of activating this if we want to drill into sometimes 741 01:07:43.440 --> 01:07:47.679 you know, February, just around late February going into early March, just 742 01:07:47.880 --> 01:07:51.679 you know, next month here we'll activate this, but it's the whole year, 743 01:07:51.679 --> 01:07:56.480 but I'll get activated kind of in a more immediate sense, and then 744 01:07:56.519 --> 01:08:01.400 again sort of April, so you know, it should you know, if 745 01:08:01.400 --> 01:08:04.039 it's going to it should play out however it's going to play out probably in 746 01:08:04.039 --> 01:08:11.760 the next four months, but give it the whole year, but it could 747 01:08:11.840 --> 01:08:16.720 very well be to some extent. Now, talk to me a year ago, 748 01:08:16.840 --> 01:08:20.479 I was said, probably I would have been more optimistic that it would 749 01:08:21.279 --> 01:08:26.159 but the fact that it hasn't yet We've seen a lot and this is again 750 01:08:26.199 --> 01:08:30.960 where you can use astrology predictively, is last year we saw a lot of 751 01:08:31.000 --> 01:08:38.279 stuff coming out and still are and now governments like politicians are getting active about 752 01:08:38.279 --> 01:08:42.880 it, which is crazy. So yeah, it's definitely possible this year. 753 01:08:43.079 --> 01:08:45.960 To what extents, I would say the chances are low that it's going to 754 01:08:45.960 --> 01:08:48.920 be something major at this point because we're already halfway through with this transit. 755 01:08:49.560 --> 01:08:55.119 But to some extent absolutely, I think disclosure is certainly possible. At least 756 01:08:55.159 --> 01:09:01.439 the framework for like future disclosure or future releases from in terms of whatever might 757 01:09:01.439 --> 01:09:06.880 get established this year with you know, the political side of it or yeah, 758 01:09:08.359 --> 01:09:12.079 you know, laws that might get passed regarding it to maybe open things 759 01:09:12.159 --> 01:09:15.479 up more, you know, things like this. Okay, so just to 760 01:09:15.680 --> 01:09:24.239 kind of touch again on this, we've had disclosure from ex military intelligence people 761 01:09:25.439 --> 01:09:30.960 facing Congress. You touched on it also that there's people in Congress that want 762 01:09:30.079 --> 01:09:32.239 to get to the bottom of it. They're tired of the cover up. 763 01:09:34.439 --> 01:09:43.319 Do you have any sense at all of how much our government knows. There's 764 01:09:43.359 --> 01:09:51.800 always been speculation that they've worked with off world types in advancing our technology in 765 01:09:51.920 --> 01:09:57.680 exchange for what. We don't know what. But can you take it a 766 01:09:57.720 --> 01:10:08.159 little further in terms of the transits that the constellations imposing more freedom of information 767 01:10:12.760 --> 01:10:15.319 you mean about that stuff specifically? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 768 01:10:15.319 --> 01:10:21.560 that's exactly what I'm saying. Yeah, for sure. But I think it's 769 01:10:21.600 --> 01:10:26.960 going to take time, is where I'm getting at with it. So I 770 01:10:27.000 --> 01:10:32.520 think it's a good year to build the communication frameworks, or the legal frameworks, 771 01:10:33.439 --> 01:10:38.600 or the systems in order to facilitate this for the future, you know 772 01:10:38.640 --> 01:10:42.399 what I mean. So for example, like I think it was Congress that 773 01:10:42.520 --> 01:10:46.760 just passed something where they're like supposed to now release some documents but enough for 774 01:10:46.760 --> 01:10:49.840 another like twenty years or something like this. I can't remember exactly, but 775 01:10:49.920 --> 01:10:53.760 something like that, which is at least a step in the right direction. 776 01:10:53.920 --> 01:10:56.840 So I think with saddened, it's like we have to really think long term. 777 01:10:56.880 --> 01:10:59.000 Like I was saying, with the technology stuff, it's like a twenty 778 01:10:59.079 --> 01:11:02.319 nine year development. It takes time. When you say Saturn, that's a 779 01:11:02.359 --> 01:11:06.960 slow moving planet. So that's why you're giving these long twenty year projections, 780 01:11:08.039 --> 01:11:13.239 right, yeah, slow moving and the energy of Saturn itself is about patients 781 01:11:13.319 --> 01:11:16.960 and like building structure. So like if you look at the rings of Saturn, 782 01:11:17.039 --> 01:11:19.479 it's you know, it's beautiful, it's like, but it takes so 783 01:11:19.600 --> 01:11:26.319 much time and patience and perseverance to do, you know, to to that's 784 01:11:26.359 --> 01:11:30.319 the that's the Saturn side of ourselves, is that patient and responsible side. 785 01:11:30.359 --> 01:11:34.319 So anyway, so that's that's a good way to play it. And so 786 01:11:34.439 --> 01:11:38.600 let's use this year as a good foundation so that in this twenty nine year 787 01:11:38.680 --> 01:11:43.479 cycle when we get back to this, you know, societally thirty years from 788 01:11:43.479 --> 01:11:48.479 now, then everyone can hopefully have some full on you know, information and 789 01:11:48.520 --> 01:11:53.960 disclosure and maybe at that point, you know, a lot more. So 790 01:11:54.000 --> 01:11:57.560 we'll see. Okay, hey, as we close, I have a few 791 01:11:57.640 --> 01:12:03.640 questions on the environment, and then we want to give people a chance to 792 01:12:03.680 --> 01:12:08.119 contact you. We want to give them your website and your other resources. 793 01:12:08.800 --> 01:12:12.119 One of the big issues that have been coming up lately, and I'm shocked 794 01:12:12.119 --> 01:12:17.600 at this, but the whole EV industry and electric electric vehicles has been taking 795 01:12:17.640 --> 01:12:25.079 it on the chin. First with hurts not renewing their teslas Secondly, in 796 01:12:25.159 --> 01:12:29.960 states where there's extreme coal, these electric cars like teslas are not working. 797 01:12:30.520 --> 01:12:38.560 It's a whole new phenomenon with environmental changes, most notably cold that these cars 798 01:12:38.600 --> 01:12:44.079 are not working. And just yes, well just last week the CEO of 799 01:12:44.640 --> 01:12:48.039 Toyota said, we're not going to be investing in evs anymore. What do 800 01:12:48.079 --> 01:12:53.119 you see for I mean, and this is an environmental situation. These cars 801 01:12:53.119 --> 01:12:58.000 were developed so that we don't have so much pollutants in our atmosphere, which 802 01:12:58.039 --> 01:13:01.119 is a whole problem in itself. What do you see as a trend for 803 01:13:01.880 --> 01:13:10.960 evs and uh electric vehicles? Yeah, so again, so we've we've covered 804 01:13:11.079 --> 01:13:13.520 you know, it's main transits, so we can look at everything we've talked 805 01:13:13.520 --> 01:13:17.079 about. So the the system, the structures. So from the Pluto side, 806 01:13:17.159 --> 01:13:20.640 you know, the oil industries, the all the industries that are built 807 01:13:20.640 --> 01:13:26.039 around oil, the political systems that are built around oil. All of this 808 01:13:26.359 --> 01:13:30.239 will hold on tooth and nail to the last breath. So you know, 809 01:13:30.279 --> 01:13:38.039 so there's also this very strong, you know system in place which will which 810 01:13:38.039 --> 01:13:41.000 will transform for sure, it's no doubt about it, like we said, 811 01:13:41.439 --> 01:13:44.000 but there you're going to hold on until they you know, till the very 812 01:13:44.079 --> 01:13:47.000 end. So it's a funny. So it's it's a transformation of that coupled 813 01:13:47.000 --> 01:13:51.079 with now the innovation we're seeing with Saturn and like I said, the innovative 814 01:13:51.119 --> 01:13:55.920 planet of Urinus going into Taurus. I think what needs to have I think 815 01:13:55.960 --> 01:14:00.239 what's what we're seeing happening is that obviously electric vehicles and all this our technology, 816 01:14:00.279 --> 01:14:03.279 it's it going to be used positively and it's good. The problem, 817 01:14:03.279 --> 01:14:05.840 I think is that we're still so dependent on things, like you said, 818 01:14:05.840 --> 01:14:13.439 like coal or just you know, very primitive ways of getting energy. That 819 01:14:13.600 --> 01:14:17.880 is the problem. So with Taurus again we talk about more nature, the 820 01:14:18.000 --> 01:14:24.199 more natural way of doing things, and so what I'm expecting is that over 821 01:14:24.199 --> 01:14:30.279 this ten years a lot of advancements in natural renewable energy. So obviously, 822 01:14:30.359 --> 01:14:32.039 but but I mean really ramping up. And I think this year we're going 823 01:14:32.079 --> 01:14:34.800 to see it starting in terms of it ramping up. So obviously it's already 824 01:14:35.000 --> 01:14:40.199 on an uptrend, but I think government's starting to incorporate this again, it's 825 01:14:40.239 --> 01:14:45.039 way more serious now about it is really going to start ramping up this year 826 01:14:45.119 --> 01:14:48.560 and for the next ten years. So I'm expecting, you know, huge 827 01:14:48.560 --> 01:14:53.399 solar arrays, you know, wins return of bines. I mean, there's 828 01:14:53.399 --> 01:14:58.640 a bit limitation there, so choose your natural technology. But I think that's 829 01:14:58.640 --> 01:15:02.359 where things are going to be ramping up up, and then electric vehicles and 830 01:15:02.399 --> 01:15:09.319 anything else that's dependent on the energy will make more sense. Right. But 831 01:15:09.359 --> 01:15:14.560 it's a it's a combination of a death of the old system because it's not 832 01:15:14.600 --> 01:15:16.479 just and it's not just greedy people or anything like this. It's literally the 833 01:15:16.520 --> 01:15:23.000 way the system is set up logistics like you know, moving this stuff around 834 01:15:23.039 --> 01:15:27.439 the world, The whole system, all the resources, all the vested interest, 835 01:15:27.520 --> 01:15:30.600 the jobs, everything is set up around the way that it is. 836 01:15:32.119 --> 01:15:36.680 So it's a process. But I think that's what we'll see is you know, 837 01:15:38.359 --> 01:15:41.720 the huge advancements, not even advancements really, but you know, a 838 01:15:41.840 --> 01:15:45.800 huge push towards the renewable energy side, which then things like ev and all 839 01:15:45.800 --> 01:15:48.079 that will start to come out naturally. But it's going to be a fight 840 01:15:48.119 --> 01:15:53.760 I think between you know that, and then obviously the the systems, those 841 01:15:53.800 --> 01:15:58.960 that are in control of the current energy system that won't want to So that's 842 01:15:58.960 --> 01:16:05.800 where we'll see a lot of also political you know, I don't know if 843 01:16:05.840 --> 01:16:12.600 you will. Yeah, my guess has been Athjimente and he is a Sudarial 844 01:16:12.720 --> 01:16:16.399 astrologer. If you want to get a hold of them, give us your 845 01:16:16.880 --> 01:16:23.039 give us your website, Athn and all your contact information. And uh, 846 01:16:23.199 --> 01:16:27.600 I think you also have a blog on your website, don't you. Yeah, 847 01:16:27.640 --> 01:16:30.319 So on the website, it's all kinds of articles about the stuff we're 848 01:16:30.319 --> 01:16:34.520 talking today, talking about today. It's all based around truth, say Dariel. 849 01:16:34.680 --> 01:16:42.600 So I do recommend every you know, anyone who's somewhat interested in astrology 850 01:16:42.800 --> 01:16:46.359 or the fact that we're part of these cycles and that these cycles don't affect 851 01:16:46.439 --> 01:16:49.640 us, but we're part of them, and that might sort of determine what 852 01:16:49.800 --> 01:16:56.319 our life energy is about to check out the online chart copulator that I have 853 01:16:56.439 --> 01:16:59.399 there. So you go to the website, you just click view your signs, 854 01:16:59.680 --> 01:17:01.439 and then you'll see exactly where all the plants were when you're born. 855 01:17:01.880 --> 01:17:05.720 So for those into tropical again, you're probably not gonna like it too much 856 01:17:05.760 --> 01:17:10.520 because again it's not the sign you were told, probably, but it is 857 01:17:10.560 --> 01:17:14.680 where everything actually was. So I recommend everyone just start there. Just look 858 01:17:14.680 --> 01:17:17.920 at this guy when you're born, just see where everything's placed and then if 859 01:17:17.960 --> 01:17:24.119 you want more information, there's the report I was talking about. There's readings, 860 01:17:24.239 --> 01:17:29.560 there's resources like the articles, courses, you know, anything that you'd 861 01:17:29.560 --> 01:17:30.520 want to go deeper with on there. But I would say, at the 862 01:17:30.600 --> 01:17:34.680 very least, type in your birthday and if you know your birth time, 863 01:17:34.720 --> 01:17:36.920 although it's not required, but if you know it, that's great too. 864 01:17:38.520 --> 01:17:41.800 And just type in your birthday and you'll see exactly where all the plants were 865 01:17:42.039 --> 01:17:45.960 when you were born. Okay, and you have a YouTube channel, what's 866 01:17:46.000 --> 01:17:49.720 the what's the link for that? So that'll be on the website too, 867 01:17:50.359 --> 01:17:53.760 on the website. Perfect, Yeah, everything's on the website. So the 868 01:17:53.760 --> 01:18:00.079 website's mastering the Zodiac dot com, Mastering the Zodiac dot com. And and 869 01:18:00.680 --> 01:18:02.399 yeah, if it's okay with you, Cliff, I'd like to offer a 870 01:18:02.399 --> 01:18:09.359 fifty percent discount to your audience. So if you go to mastering Zodia dot 871 01:18:09.359 --> 01:18:15.720 com forward slash we'll say Destiny forward slash Destiny, you'll see the discount there. 872 01:18:15.760 --> 01:18:18.039 But first just check out the sky and if you want the full report 873 01:18:18.119 --> 01:18:21.039 describing what that might mean for you, there's also a free report you'll see 874 01:18:21.039 --> 01:18:24.760 when you type it in. But if you want the full report, you'll 875 01:18:24.800 --> 01:18:28.079 get a fifty percent discount. Oh that's excellent. Thank you for that. 876 01:18:28.239 --> 01:18:32.159 Fantastic all right, athen thank you very much. Appreciate the insight into twenty 877 01:18:32.199 --> 01:18:39.680 twenty four and definitely beyond and not too heavy, not too negative, not 878 01:18:39.800 --> 01:18:45.640 too that's sad. I guess you could say it looks like there's some positives 879 01:18:45.680 --> 01:18:50.800 as well of some growth that's that's coming up. So and again, to 880 01:18:50.840 --> 01:18:55.479 take it from the freewill side again, it's like everything's on the up trend 881 01:18:55.760 --> 01:18:59.399 towards the positive changes for sure. Okay, so even though some of the 882 01:18:59.399 --> 01:19:01.960 stuff we're talking about it's certainly deep. Again, there's things we can do 883 01:19:02.479 --> 01:19:08.119 and you know, working with the energy constructively. But yeah, it's all 884 01:19:08.119 --> 01:19:11.840 on the uptrend. It's all for the best, and it's all positively impacting 885 01:19:11.880 --> 01:19:15.319 society at the end of the day, you know. Fantastic, all right, 886 01:19:15.359 --> 01:19:17.319 Hey, thanks again, it was a pleasure speaking with you. You 887 01:19:17.479 --> 01:19:27.319 Tick left, thank you. You know, I was thinking back when he 888 01:19:27.359 --> 01:19:33.079 was talking about the changes in the United States, how we view things politically, 889 01:19:33.159 --> 01:19:40.079 so forth and so on, civically structurally, I wonder what that means. 890 01:19:40.079 --> 01:19:43.079 I wanted to get more from that, but we didn't have enough time, 891 01:19:43.159 --> 01:19:48.119 so maybe you'll have to go back and listen get a sense of his 892 01:19:48.279 --> 01:19:55.760 material. I'm going to post his website, his Facebook page and how to 893 01:19:55.760 --> 01:19:59.760 get a hold of him. And he just mentioned as we completed that he 894 01:19:59.920 --> 01:20:04.720 is offering a fifty discount for a for a sadarial reading. You need to 895 01:20:04.800 --> 01:20:10.119 have the month, the date of the year, and if you can get 896 01:20:10.119 --> 01:20:12.920 it the time that you were born, and he can give you a really 897 01:20:12.960 --> 01:20:17.359 accurate readout and it's half price. I don't know what that is. And 898 01:20:17.359 --> 01:20:20.840 I'm gonna go ahead and post that on the Facebook page, but it will 899 01:20:20.840 --> 01:20:29.640 also be on the listing if you if you're on iTunes or you're on Spotify, 900 01:20:30.239 --> 01:20:34.800 wherever you get your data, your page notes on each podcast. Look 901 01:20:34.880 --> 01:20:41.199 there, I'll have it at the bottom under his bio. So, I 902 01:20:41.199 --> 01:20:46.319 mean, that was interesting. I wanted more. I wanted to get more 903 01:20:46.399 --> 01:20:55.359 of a sense of countrywide trends. What's happening in Ukraine and Russia, what's 904 01:20:55.399 --> 01:21:00.039 happening in the Middle East, what's happening in Europe. We just didn't have 905 01:21:00.079 --> 01:21:03.600 time, and of course there's you know, those conflicts right now, we're 906 01:21:04.279 --> 01:21:10.079 heating up in the Pacific with the Chinese and our navy. The Chinese want 907 01:21:10.119 --> 01:21:14.119 to take back Taiwan. We don't want them to do that. Chinese and 908 01:21:14.159 --> 01:21:19.479 Taiwan's not so happy about it either. We have Gaza, the Israelis and 909 01:21:19.520 --> 01:21:24.840 the Palestine conflict. Is it going to bleed over into Egypt? God, 910 01:21:24.840 --> 01:21:29.840 I hope not. I mean, what's going to happen is I wanted to 911 01:21:29.880 --> 01:21:33.479 get more of that so well, it's different for everybody. It's different for 912 01:21:34.640 --> 01:21:39.680 each astrologer too. Sometimes you have to sit on them a little longer to 913 01:21:39.680 --> 01:21:47.079 get more details. So there you have a bit of prophecy for twenty twenty 914 01:21:47.079 --> 01:21:53.159 four. Definitely goes beyond the twenty twenty four spectrum. We get into some 915 01:21:53.199 --> 01:21:57.920 other time periods, which is kind of fun. And I mean, I 916 01:21:57.920 --> 01:22:01.399 don't know where to go for answers on this disclosure thing. I keep getting 917 01:22:01.439 --> 01:22:09.319 a sense, and this is maybe not good through social media YouTube, Facebook, 918 01:22:10.600 --> 01:22:15.319 Instagram, whatever, that there is going to be some major disclosure. 919 01:22:15.720 --> 01:22:19.239 And I mentioned this real quickly. I said, first of all, it 920 01:22:19.239 --> 01:22:26.560 seems like the off world types are wanting to make themselves more available. I 921 01:22:26.640 --> 01:22:30.279 mentioned that they're slowing their craft down, so you can take better pictures. 922 01:22:30.960 --> 01:22:34.560 Our governments kind of coming up and saying, yeah, they're here. But 923 01:22:34.680 --> 01:22:41.640 it's funny because UAP's identify aerial phenomenon is more about what kind of craft are 924 01:22:41.680 --> 01:22:46.319 these? What's the proposal system? Well, I am interested in that, 925 01:22:46.399 --> 01:22:51.960 but I'm really interested in who the occupants are of these craft? What planet 926 01:22:53.000 --> 01:22:58.399 are you from? Why are you here? Is this an anthropological study of 927 01:22:58.479 --> 01:23:02.680 the earth LANs? I mean, really, that would be great to know 928 01:23:02.760 --> 01:23:08.079 that, hey, we're here and we're steadying you. I think it's gone 929 01:23:08.119 --> 01:23:11.359 beyond that, though. I think they're going, Okay, we're testing the 930 01:23:11.399 --> 01:23:16.920 waters. I mean, in the sixties and seventies, we were shooting at 931 01:23:17.479 --> 01:23:24.319 UFOs in some cases. I think we still are. But I don't know 932 01:23:24.600 --> 01:23:29.800 if that's the case, that we still have the prerogative to shoot first and 933 01:23:29.880 --> 01:23:32.199 ask later. That's not going to be helpful at all. We're going to 934 01:23:32.359 --> 01:23:39.600 be decades before they sit their ships down and go, hey, welcome to 935 01:23:39.640 --> 01:23:45.319 the collective. I mean, we really are a military complex, in the 936 01:23:45.600 --> 01:23:53.800 industrial military complex here in the United States. We spend billions, if not 937 01:23:54.000 --> 01:24:00.239 trillions every year on weaponry and it's gotten out of hand. God divert some 938 01:24:00.279 --> 01:24:04.960 of that money back into our country. Nobody would go hungry, everybody would 939 01:24:05.000 --> 01:24:11.079 have a place to sleep, and you know, it would be nice for 940 01:24:11.159 --> 01:24:15.520 those who are in retirement would get more money, and they're social Security because 941 01:24:15.560 --> 01:24:21.039 that's just complete crap, it really is. I have friends that have been 942 01:24:21.079 --> 01:24:27.159 working in job situations where they get a retirement fund. You know, they 943 01:24:27.199 --> 01:24:31.920 get a pension. But that's not everybody. That's less than normal. Most 944 01:24:31.960 --> 01:24:38.479 people have to live on what savings they have. And also there's Social Security, 945 01:24:39.039 --> 01:24:42.680 and social Security is a joke. In fact, there was a lot 946 01:24:42.680 --> 01:24:45.640 of people that are really upset because you put in tens of thousands, in 947 01:24:45.640 --> 01:24:53.000 some cases hundreds of thousands of dollars and it trickles back to you, literally 948 01:24:53.119 --> 01:24:57.840 trickles back in smaller amounts. So I don't know what the answer is, 949 01:24:57.880 --> 01:25:02.399 but it's it could be one of those situations that Athan was talking about where 950 01:25:02.439 --> 01:25:09.680 we have social change and they are the United States government has to change the 951 01:25:09.720 --> 01:25:16.079 amounts provided in the coverage for people who are retired. You know. 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All right, that's it for 970 01:26:54.119 --> 01:26:59.159 today's program, and I think my guest today, Athan Chimente, that was 971 01:26:59.239 --> 01:27:04.399 interesting material astrology. As always the team of gil Tor, Mark Foster and 972 01:27:04.439 --> 01:27:10.000 everyone who makes this thing happen. I appreciate your help. All right, 973 01:27:10.079 --> 01:27:27.399 take care of me well and we'll talk to you next time tonight. Throwing 974 01:27:27.680 --> 01:27:44.840 me from LIV playing my favorite song right battle time, Yeah, musing, 975 01:27:44.960 --> 01:27:59.880 comping. We just promoted New Star Shake your Heart into the Morning, Live 976 01:28:00.159 --> 01:28:08.600 you Bread that last last glads you up, shout shout, shout, Let 977 01:28:08.640 --> 01:28:09.600 me here, Sam Bread