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This is Dan Kaples, and welcome
to today's online podcast edition of The Dan

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Caplis Show. Please be sure to
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single day on your favorite podcast platform. Pardon me, I'm not quite myself.

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I'm a heart attack survivor what I've
always wanted to be. Hey,

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I'm John Caldera in for Dan.
Yeah, two weeks ago yesterday I had

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a heart attack. So listening to
that little PSA about I'm having a stroke,

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and now I'm listening to that a
little bit more intently. So quick

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story, because you might find it
useful, you might find it boring.

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I don't know. I woke up
to that Tuesday and I didn't feel right.

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But I don't feel right a lot. Oddly, my teeth were kind

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of sore. You know when you
were a kid and you had braces and

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they tightened the braces and I,
ah kind of had that feeling. Now

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I was having a funny feeling in
my chest. I figured I needed to

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eat something, because good God,
if anything's wrong, just eat something.

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I'm Italian, that's just basic.
So I decide I'm going to work,

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and I have a little little protein
bar or something with me, and I'm

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going down and I'm on US thirty
six heading into Denver. I work at

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the Independence Institute close to the Capitol, and I'm driving down and my chest

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feels weirder and weirder and weirder.
It feels like there's this pressure on the

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inside. No, I didn't have
a pain in my arm. No,

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my cholesterol when I've had it checked
in years past, and I do it

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about once a year, wasn't great. But it wasn't bad at all.

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And it gets worse. I call
my brother and I say, I think

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I'm having a panic attack. Is
this what a panic attack feels like?

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Because I don't like it, said, it's probably not a heart attack,

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that's and I said, just stay
in the line with me. And he

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stayed on the line with me,
and it was getting worse, and he

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kept talking to me, making sure
I wasn't dead yet. And I had

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to get to the office because I
was giving a zoom presentation to a group,

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so I needed to be on the
computer and need to be on camera

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because I'm presenting something to people that
I said I would present something to and

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I was like, I think,
I'm just going to go to work.

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I mean, I feel weird and
I probably should get it checked. But

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if it still hurts, I'll get
a checked later. My brother came up

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with a brilliant thought. He said, why don't you go to the hospital

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and just sit in the waiting room. You don't have to admit yourself to

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the hospital in order to do anything. You can just sit there. You

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can do your zoom call from there, and you look badass. I'm in

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pain. I'm doing this from the
emergency waiting room. I thought that was

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brilliant. So I drive to Denver
Health. Why Denver Health, I don't

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know. You know, maybe I
should have gone to Saint Joseph, which

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is close to work. But basically
because I turned right to go to Denver

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Health instead of left to get to
my office when I'm downtown, close to

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the capitol, I'm still alive from
that one little decision. So I go

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in, sit down, and then
I thought, screw it, I'm just

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going to go into the emergency room. Have to go through security to get

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into the emergency room. Why,
Because it's Denver General. It's where all

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the meth heads and homeless hang out, so I go in. I have

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to wait and wait and give the
girl my driver's license and insurance card.

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They said, an insurance card.
We don't see many of those around here.

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No, I made that up.
And I check in. I say,

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I'm having chest pain. A woman
taps a bunch of stuff on a

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computer screen says, go over there, sit down, we'll test your vitals.

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I go over. I sit down. She walks over, takes my

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blood pressure and says, and I
quote, oh, I don't like that.

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They then rush me into a room
inside the er where some big tattooed

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guy emt slaps a bunch of wires
on me to do an e KG electro

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cardiogram. I think that's what it
is. And he looks at the piece

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of paper and goes, I don't
like that. He said, no,

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it looks good. But this little
thing here, I've been doing this for

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decades and that just that just makes
me think something is going on. These

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are the kind of things you just
want to hear in an emergency room.

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By the way, they bring me
to yet another room. Then they bring

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the X ray machine in, take
a picture of my heart, suck out

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a whole bunch of blood. A
poor guy who took out the blood he

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and put an ivy line in and
he was filling blood from one vial to

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another, and something happened and he
spilled it, and blood just went all

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over the wall and all over itself
and looks like a murder scene. Anyway.

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They show it to a doctor and
then they say, oh, we

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want to bring up to the cath
lab, but there's the patient there now,

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so I'll have to wait a little
bit. Like, Okay, I

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don't know what a cath lab is, but at this point I'm just letting

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you at it. Well, it
stands for cather lab. So they wheel

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me upstairs and then into this room
that looked very much like sick Bay from

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Star Trek. There's a table in
the middle and there's like fifteen people running

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around doing lots of stuff. I
fortunately the great people pushed me up there

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said now you're gonna see people running
around doing a lot of stuff. It's

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what they do. Thanks. I'm
laying there. They lift me onto the

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table and then a guy starts shaving
my crotch, to which I said,

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I didn't order a Brazilian and they
all laugh and I say, you know,

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but if if what's left over looks
like a Hitler mustache, I'm gonna

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find you. And then, and
only then did I think, wait a

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second, I should ask this question. Excuse me, guy shaving my crotch?

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Why are you shaving my crotch?
My heart is up here. It's

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that what it feels like to be
a woman. My eyes are up here,

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so my heart is up here.
My brains are down there. My

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heart is up here. And he
said, well, we're gonna have to

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put a catheter in you. And
if we can't get it through your arm,

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we've got to go through the blankety
blank vein in your crotch. Great,

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great, just just what, just
what I wanted. He let's just

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say a little freaked out. I
tell the doctor you know, I'm am

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I gonna die? He said,
I doubt it. And then I said,

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am I gonna die? He said, no, You're not gonna die,

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but they gotta be careful. Of
course, if I die, it's

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not like I'll be able to testify
against him. He said I wouldn't die.

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And he said, well, you
know, I think I'm gonna freak

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out pretty soon. He said,
oh, who can take care of that?

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And then he said, yeah,
let's get the freak out drugs in

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them. And and I woke up
apparently a couple hours later and in the

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ICU, and I find out after
they finally come in and talked to me,

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I felt great, it's amazing.
After I woke up and it's like,

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oh, yeah, all better,
Oh chess doesn't hurt. Thanks guys.

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All right, I gotta go.
I gotta get things done at work.

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They tell me, well, you
had a heart attack, and we

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put a stint in, like,
well, those are interesting things that I

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really don't know much about, and
they explained it to me. And basically,

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if I had gone to work,
I we either would have had a

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lot of heart damage or I just
dropped dead. So very rarely do I

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make the right call, very rarely, but in this instance, I made

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the right call, and you have
to put up with me. Now.

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I had a ninety percent blockage in
what's known as the widow maker artery,

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which goes around your heart and it
brings blood to the muscles in your heart.

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They said, I didn't have much
damage, but ye, nevertheless,

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you're gonna stay in the ICU for
two days. But I don't want to

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stay. I don't care if you
want to stay. So it's odd I'm

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now on you know, five hundred
different rugs, But I feel so much

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better, isn't it crazy? When
your heart gets the blood it needs,

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you feel a little better. All
of which to say, dudes, don't

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be like a usual guy and you
know, just walk it off, because

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that's what I was gonna do.
It's like, I'll just walk it off

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because it's better than going to the
doctor. Anything is better than going to

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the doctor. God, I hate
going to the doctor. You know that

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every man hates going to the doctor. It's innate. It's the waiting.

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It's the waiting. It's the waiting. It's the waiting, and then it's

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the word more. Basically, it's
well, we did this, but we're

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gonna have you come back for a
follow up, and we're gonna have to

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go over there for a biopsy,
and we're gonna bring you over there for

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a specialist. And each time you
go you have to wait more, and

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it just cascades into well, a
heart attack. So, as a reasonable

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guy, I thought I'd just wait
till I had a heart attack to now

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go to those doctor's appointments. Three
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two five five in for Dan Kaplis
John keldera six thirty K how and

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now back to the Dan Kapliss Show
podcast. So we don't have to go

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down the heart attack route. Other
than I am remarkably grateful, remarkably lucky,

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and remarkably lucky to live in a
country where you go to an emergency

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room and they save your life.
Oh my god. By the way,

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when you say I'm having chest pain, they they bump you to the front

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of the line because time is of
the essence. So I've been saying I

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have chest pain every time I go
to a restaurant. Hasn't worked quite as

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well, but I I'm gonna keep
trying. Three h three seven one three

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eight two five five. Let me
jump into this. Will he drop out

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of the race? Yeah? I
think you will. I think you will.

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I'm not certain. I'd say it's
a little better than fifty percent.

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Understand He Biden, and he alone
has to make that decision, which is

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a very pleasant way of saying,
Jill Biden will make this decision. Will

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Jill Biden agreed for a hobby to
leave well only when the pressure gets so

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bad that he has to so I
think, I don't know, I speculate

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on this. I think we're gonna
see in the coming in the coming week

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or so, maybe two more and
more people coming up with look what he

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did today, Look what he said
today. Look, look look what it's

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gonna be. Oh, look what
he stumbled on. And with everyone,

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he's going to get more pressure.
So right now you have the first congressman

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and his party to say he needs
to drop out. Uh fresh who is

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the candidate on the third congressional said
he needs to get out. So you're

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hearing more and more people from the
Democratic side, and when that becomes a

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chorus, he'll get out, but
not until then. It's kind of like

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when a football coach gets canned.
The owner always gives him that vote of

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confidence before he gets canned. Well, we believe that Jimbo there is going

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to turn things around. We've got
all faith and confidence that he's going to

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be able to do that. Thank
you, no more questions, And then

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a couple of games later when he
doesn't, he gets canned. So the

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party binds supporters are all doing that
the vote of confidence. So Willie,

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I think, yes, here's one
of the things that operatives do to keep

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the pressure building. When when there's
a a leak, a press leak,

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some little outlet gets a story they
shouldn't have gotten. It's not an accident.

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It's not an accident. It's somebody
trying to get a story out.

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Well, a little tiny news site
called Puck News. Yes, I said,

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puck with a p got a tip
off and got a got a post

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debate. Polling from a group called
open Labs. Open Labs is a democratic

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messaging and polling firm that works with
I believe one of the Biden packs,

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if not directly with the election.
So, oh my goodness. Look they

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put out they put out a poll. What does it say. It says

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very clearly, after this, after
this performance, his his popularity is dropping

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like a stone. In fact,
in the swing states, it looks like

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he's going to lose those swing states
and therefore Trump is going to win.

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It even has and listen to this
one, it even has Colorado still for

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Biden. Colorado is still for Biden. We're a very very very blue state.

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But the margin between Biden and Trump
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That is within the margin of error
of the of the poll. So

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by the way. I don't buy
that. I don't buy it at all.

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I think in a head to head
Biden still wins by eight to twelve

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points here in Colorado, just just
by the registration, just by the hatred

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of Trump. But by putting out
this pole, it technically, and this

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is just one of a gazillion poles, puts Colorado squarely in a swing state.

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The same pole had before the debate, Colorado going for Biden by three

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point seven percent. Interesting, so
that all that got cut in half,

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his lead got cut in half in
Colorado. Whatever the lead was, imagine

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it getting cut in half in Colorado. Now play with this for a second.

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What if Spock, what if this
poll is accurate and Colorado is a

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swing state? Well, who's gonna
win in Colorado? They asked these questions.

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Here's the answer, not just in
Colorado, but nationally. The favorable

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unfavorables of the top Democrats that could
replace him coming in number one is Pete

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Buddhajeedge, then Gretchen Whittemore Whittner,
then Governor Newsom, then Kamala Harris,

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then Biden. So there are four
people above Biden who could be could be

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presidential contenders that could that could do
better than Biden. One of the names

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they did in poll was Polis.
I want to ask you about that?

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Three or three seven one three eight
two five five. I'm John Caldera.

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Should pol Us run for president?
Keep it here? Say thirty K.

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You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show
podcast. When I first heard the song,

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I thought it was the heart of
rock and roll is in Topeka,

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isn't it? Though? No it
is not. It's in Detroit. It's

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in Detroit, I agree. Or
maybe London? Yeah, London calling?

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Sure, Yeah, I'm John Caldarian
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Three your three seven one three eight
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on the text line. Not my
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called my brother. I was having
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your brother ask where you kept your
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was getting my skin checked, the
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whit blood pressure and the word was
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Let me get back to topic.
The pressure is building for Biden to step

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aside. If he wants it to
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the pressure mounts and mounts and mounts. It's gonna be tougher. A pole

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that was leaked shows that Colorado with
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of voting for Trump. Now,
personally, I don't really think that's right,

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but let's keep with it. Let's
keep with it. Well, if

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Colorado were a swing state, Jared
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That is, Polis is a remarkably
popular governor. He has twice purchased

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the governorship, last time with twenty
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it we're not hearing his name?
A year ago his name was everywhere as

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a potential presidential candidate. I asked
him personally, so thinking about running?

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And he said, nope, nope, nope, gonna be keeping this job,

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which is exactly what what a wise
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smart. If he ran, he
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My strong suspicion is that if and
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will not try to get those delegates. Polish will not run for president.

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Here's the thinking. He knows it's
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have a lot of money. It
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Biden drop out, he has something
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dollars in his war chest. From
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to another candidate. That money was
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Harris becomes the the nominee will lo
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money, if not any of the
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Gavin Newsom is very good at raising
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was it? JB. Pritzker,
Governor of New Jersey is worth something

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like three point six billion dollars.
He could finance it himself. What's a

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quarter of a million dollars to this
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I really want you to weigh in
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see Jared Poulis as a VP candidate, perhaps under Kamala Harris, particularly if

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Colorado becomes a swing state. Now
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Colorado, and that would certainly deliver
it, But it would be more beneficial

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for Jared should a Harris Polus ticket
win. He's a heartbeat away, and

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as I've come to realize after my
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close. But win. And if
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that means Kamala lost, not the
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to live to fight another day.
And he I'm certain our governor is thinking

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very strongly about a presidential run in
four years. That gives him plenty of

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time to work on it. What
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one, three eight two five five
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the world isn't there any consideration of
our governor as a possible replacement When a

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year ago he was all over the
news, He was in Fox News and

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a Wall Street Journal and Reason magazine. Oh good god. Even George Will

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wrote a puff piece about, oh, this is a different type of Democrat.

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Why is his name not being mentioned
now just a year later. Here's

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my suspicion, because his name is
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keep. And up until recently,
national press was buying the bogus story that

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our governor is some kind of libertarian
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And all the people who are saying
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They were not from Colorado. They
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places where the spin is not easily
checked. But what happens is actions speak

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louder than words. And the fact
that no libertarian ish, business friendly ish

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people in coloradogo, Oh yeah,
he's a great governor. No, they

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all go, let's see their tax
increases, fee increases, regulatory increases,

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energy price increases, gun law increases, putting oil and gas out of business,

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banning plastic straws, increasing the minimum
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hard. It's hard to run away
from that record. That makes it very

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difficult for jareded Polis to play that, Oh I'm a libertarian. Listen,

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Liking weed and bitcoin does not make
you a libertarian. You cannot be libertarian

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small l or large l and love
tax increases and taking away people's right to

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live their own life the way they
like. That's that's his problem. The

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other part of it is his far
left doesn't like him. As crazy socialist

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as he is, He's still not
crazy socialistic enough for the crazy wing of

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his party in Colorado. The crazy
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chin on primary day when folks like
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These were people who were so far
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didn't like it. All right,
So help me out about this. Could

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you see Jared Polis running this year? We're working on the assumption that Biden

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in the next week or so drops
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could he win? Or do you
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Would it be wise if he did? I think it would be very wise

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for him to take the VP slot. It would make him a nationally known

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commodity, allowing him to run in
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three, eight, two, five
five. I want to hear from

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you. Let me know. I'm
John Caldera and for mister Caplis, keep

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it right here. Six point thirty
k how and now back to the Dan

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Kaplis Show podcast. Why isn't Jared
Polis being mentioned as a possible Biden replacement?

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A year ago he was all over
the news and the talk shows as

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people were saying, Oh, that
cal that that Colorado guy, Oh he

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could be president. Let's go to
the phones, Let's go to monument and

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talk to Joe. Joe. Good
afternoon, you're with Caldera. Hey John,

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how you doing, brother Glad?
It's your heart attack man? Me

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too, Me too. Yeah,
i'd be talking to similar other schmuk insteady.

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I'm a Jersey boy, Come on, I love it anyway. Anyway,

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I don't think Jared's gonna run or
even take a seat assignment simply because

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he doesn't want to be associated with
a loser. He has won everything he's

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ever done. I mean, like
you said, he's purchased every job he's

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ever ahead. I don't think he
wants to be associated if Kamala takes the

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money. I don't think he wants
to be part of that, because she's

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still going to lose to Trump,
and that's gonna be We don't know that.

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We don't know that, all right, but that is not well liked

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reading the tea leagues. I'll go
that, Rod. I still don't think

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he would want to be associated with
that. I think he would love to

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speak at the convention and do what
Baroccio and jump out that way into the

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national spotlight as the plan articulate white
guy from Colorado who everybody loves but not

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really wow. So I just I
don't think he wants it I don't think

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he wants to be up against Trump
to be known as somebody that could have

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lost to Trump in any way,
shape or form. It's just not his

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pattern. Maybe, But think of
this, Okay, if he if he

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runs as a VP candidate, Yeah, he gets he gets to be nationally

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when she loses, that's when she
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the standard bearers for the Democratic Party
nationwide. His name is there, he

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was, he was part of it. And it's not like he lost.

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She loses. Let's remember Carter Mondale
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Mondale easily won the nomination next time
around. It's not it's not that

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losing that spot makes it impossible to
get it. Yeah, if I were,

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if I were Hollis's advisor and Kamala
calls and says, the President's going

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to drop out, I'll be running
for president. I'd like you to be

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the VP candidate, I would be
on it like a mini skirt. It

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would It would give a damnse a
chance to now say that Trump is anti

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gay, anti woman, anti black. I mean, it's just one more

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thing they could complain him with.
Well, and also think of think of

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the identity politics checklist which must be
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You have a black woman of color, a woman of color, and a

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Jewish gay man. That would be
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Yeah, and that's why they're worried
about going with somebody else other than Kamala,

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because if they did, it would
be seen as a as an insult

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to women and to people of color. Yeah. Well, I appreciate your

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point of view. Glad you're doing
well and can't wait to hear more from

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your play. Thank you so much, appreciate it. Three all three seven,

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one three eight two five five seven
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Is that? Oh? The right
analysis? I think it is.

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I think it is. But here's
the point. Polus only makes sense if

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Colorado is in play and they need
these nine votes. My suspicion is they

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would go someplace else. Gretchen Whitmore, a woman well that that would check

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a box, and a swing state
Pritzler, New Jersey, Pennsylvania. They

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need that more than they need Colorado. That's what I think. Wow,

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So what is Polis? Why isn't
his name out there? Every article lists

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the same you know, six people, but not polis A year ago,

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the Washington Post did an analysis and
Polus was number three in that top ten

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likely to run for president, right
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Then it was polis So. A
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the most likely to run for president. Now he's not mentioned. Why do

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you think that is? Is it
because he's hacked off his left and he's

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hacked off normal people? Do you
think it's because people understand his record now

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and they can't hide the fact that
he's he's a socialist, that he's no

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libertarian. Let me tell you being
prowed and pro cryptocurrency does not make one

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a libertarian. And do you believe
that after this debate Biden is only two

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points ahead of Trump in Colorado?
Let me call three oh three seven one

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three eight two five five seven to
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John Calderrek, keep it right here, six thirty k