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Inside information. Nobody tells you.
I don't think in the media know this.

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So there's a lot of going on
on the service. So if you

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try to figure out why we don't
have enough context with the why, No,

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a subscriber for years. It's something
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an update whatever I'm doing, Charles, I put everything aside and read it

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to see what the heck's going on. We're talking pre call AI biggest threat

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to Wall Street that has ever existed, because basically, what do you need

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a portfolio manager for? What do
you need an analyst for stock broker whatever?

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You just get yourself an AI bought
and they are your portfolio manager.

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Where do you think this trends heading
well? As you maybe remember, I

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went to this business of the mid
eighties f TI finished being a medical doctor.

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It was only a couple of years
and I thought, like the medicine

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it ever happened. So I developed
this intelligence that what are called neural networks,

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and except the clients, most people
didn't take it seriously. And interesting

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thing is they still don't take it
seriously. So I think I'm against up

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like the thousands of brokers with grace
suits and at the shakecases who saying whatever

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they want and ever the quotes,
whatever paper they see, and they just

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try to suppress the artificial intelligence in
financial markets. So I'm fine with that.

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I just want it surprising that this
exists a ready for a long time

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and also now and it doesn't get
to the surface that our computers who can

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calculate things that we cannot, mostly
because they are not emotional. So it's

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like against It will take still many
years because people and I still have clients

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who say, why you think is
going to happen? And it says,

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I don't deal with what why it's
going to happen, I deal with what

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happened. So so so one example
is with a lot of hatch funds that

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everybody is afraid to the back fun
crash, you know, the back found

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theory says that art situation that we
cannot predict, you're going to bring down

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the market. So they all tried
to predict White happens. And I tried

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to convince them, why don't you
deal with me where it happens, who

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guess why it happens. But there's
so much conducent the white happened, they

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cannot forget why it happened. The
old basics what white happened, not when

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it happens. So it's still early
in the game. So but at some

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point, look, it's just like
they played chess. They play that game

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Go, and they far exceed human
capabilities to the point where when you have

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two computers playing Go against each other, the game becomes unrecognizable. The big

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guys out there, the big alder
players, all of them are they using

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AI, Well, they use my
researchers based on AI and since they very

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much into results, they really don't
care why it happens, what happens,

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who says what, who does?
What? They just want to know doesn't

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go up, how many days it
goes up, how many weeks good up?

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How I want to percent it goes
up, and how much it goes

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down. But if I may say, the little investor who doesn't really study

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history of financial markets is still listening
to the media, and and I have

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to say, this is the funny
thing of the media, is how did

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they get in this finance? I
was in New York on the vacasion and

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as a CNBC and CNBC said,
well, for I remembered, for its

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stock goes up, for it goes
down all kinds of reasons, and that's

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strange it can happen. So that's
how I started my career. And twenty

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years later when I was invited a
lot of cbcs is how did you get

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in the business? And I thought
it would throw me out, and says,

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you know what, I was listening
to you guys, I think this

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is donss let me check it.
Now you invite me to explain to you

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what I checked out and so so
you're really making sense of things. It's

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just kind of your nature. And
so what tools are available to the average

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person now that can really help you
besides your research, What else can I

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use to help me outperform the market
and stay away from crashes. Well,

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the first problem is that you will
be listening to the media, and like

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one Buffett said, I never saw
a journalist who became a billionaire, you

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know, otherwise they will all,
you know, going to business if they

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do that. So I had been
to television of Bloomberg TV, and all

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will like these people. But if
you know who sits there writes the stories,

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right that nineteen twenty twenty one one
years old old students, Yeah,

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that just write up a story that
says Bloomberg says or you know, whatever

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says. So, so it's it's
kind of a hopeless situation. People want

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I don't say they want to be
fooled, but it's still fooled and they

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don't feel the being fooled. Yeah. Well, so if I could sum

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it up, the problem is they're
way cons more concerned about why than when.

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Right, It's like, you don't
there's a lot you know, I

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don't need to understand my car.
When I put the key in the ignition

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and turn it, all I need
to know is that it's running and it'll

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take me where I need to go. As far as something goes wrong or

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how it works, we'll leave it
to the engineers and the mechanics to figure

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all that stuff out. I just
wanted to take me from point A to

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point B. And so basically the
emphasis, the focus of the average investor

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is completely in the wrong arena.
They're trying to figure out why when they

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should be trying to figure out how
much I can make or lose if I'm

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right, And then they have to
illusion. If I say, you know,

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with the korn goes up a lot
is to give an example, this

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says, well, I don't know
about korn. It says, what do

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you know about golds? You play
goals? You know anything about gold?

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Actually, no one knows anything about
gold. You know this, it's built

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an illusion. But you know,
billies of billies on a billion dollars go

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on every year based on this.
Should that they keep going Yeah, yeah,

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Well that's what makes the world go
around, I guess, and cost

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people a lot of money and a
lot of heartache and a lot of grief.

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So looking at markets ahead stock market, so it performed unbelievably well so

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far in twenty twenty three, better
than most of the so called experts out

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there we're predicting. But now it
looks like we've come to a bump in

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the road, doesn't it. Well, that is just if you take out

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what the magnificent seven you know,
Yeah, these seven stocks are responsible for

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like the whole thing, what it
was. Yeah, so we're not up

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that much. We sold the mark. Yeah, the right at our downside

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I start, which is speak four
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We we cover here a little bit
of shorts and we've sutside down. If

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you see a substantial clothes below these
lambs so much. Well, so we

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know there's a days Okay, so
we're heading lower there, huh, So

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it would appear now I want I
want to mention something that you probably won't

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hear. You hear a lot about
how we're going to be resh. Yeah,

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let's come within thirty percent chance of
recession sixty three onsens. Okay,

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So let me let me give you
the information m recession thart if there's a

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birth and guield cer which means it's
a two year note against any your note

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has a higher yield. The recession
never starts where the two year years is

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higher than attenion yield. The recession
starts when it's going back to zero above

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zero. Now that has been true
about every recession of the last sixty years.

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People just don't study it. So
right now we're not recession. The

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two year right still having a higher
yield than at ten year it was around

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dan recession and it has been in
hot the cases. So can you says

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now? But again, well is
there anything now? You don't anything better?

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So let's assume that who tells you
that? Because now it's work said,

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people listen to them. They don't
know what it means, but it

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means this p respicially a pike.
Yeah, just insuads then profits at one

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of So you have tooke attention,
but it doesn't help. It's going to

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be twenty percent, thirty percent,
ten percent. So what are you gonna

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do? Nothing? Yeah, all
right, okay, I'll buy it.

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So the recessions, they decided to
throw a recession, but nobody came,

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h no, But it's not throwing. Don't believe them. They can manipulate

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all the stuff. Yeah, otherwise
bicycle cycle work wouldn't work right. But

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what we know is again the ten
years stuff going to have a high yield

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that are two years, then you
have a recession. Okay, so when

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that happens, when the yield curve
flips, then we know what's the lag

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time for the recession? Charles between
that, well, there's no the length

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time. It's difficult. You just
have to wait. He'll at ten year

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when to do your work, looking
where any yields go, where the two

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yield is going, and when it
reverses, you have to anticipate, but

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especially if it goes back to zero, you have to be very careful.

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Now afielder the cycle where we have
a decide to keep it, what's going

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to happen. So that's why we
cautious ready in the market, because we

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have a treatable low. Soon in
a few weeks of the thirty year yield

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and a ten year yield, I
think the whole thing is going to reverse.

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So then we have to pay attention. So does that mean that the

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dollar is going higher as well?
What's what's gonna What's going to be the

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outcome of the dollar? Old tongue
what's that. I'm sorry, but the

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moment that it's lomatured on size of
down at the dollars. So we were

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out of the dollar, you're out
of the dollar. Okay, So how

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low can the dollar go from where
it is now? That I don't I

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don't have ready in ourn exit conversation. I'll be ready with that. One

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will follow so many market instead of
everything ready in my head. Yeah,

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it's a dollar said, quite a
run over the past ten years. You

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know, Well maybe, but if
you look at the bank power totally collapse.

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Yeah, well that's a difference.
I'm so on talking only relative to

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other currencies, which you know,
they're all on it. We're all on

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a sinking ship. It doesn't really
matter, does it. No, it

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doesn't matter. Well, sinking ship. And I think the brick situation is

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going to take over soon. I
have very big clients resists of the resilt.

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Well, yeah, so you think
the brick's really going to take resil

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real has no, they're really gonna
take over because that this reality is so

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strong a reason for Well to postpone
because part of the Brick country. So

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people already investing in the reality getting
prepared. Ah, interesting interesting. Yeah,

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well you know, hey, no
currency last forever? Right? No?

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And then we have the gold situation. What it is? Why is

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it goal going up? Maybe?
Remember like years ago, your country is

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asked the United States to give them
big goal holding right, double range.

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I heard from baby clients why it
is? This is why it is that

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because they think that the United States
is short of gold, they don't have

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to pull in. The United States
continues to push down the prior. Yeah,

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go holds. You know the bubble
their shortened goldn't it doesn't take off.

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So a lot of things going on, and nobody can tell you.

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I would would if I would have
this bank as client. And I give

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you one more example. You know
the story about credit Swiss, Right,

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yes, okay, so loads Billy
White Swiss closed down and almost went to

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the bankupsy. The situation was this, they had big clients from the United

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States and what about they were about
to be sued by United States, and

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it calculated it would be better to
close those but it's peace to pay.

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We had the top billions to the
United States, so that's why they closed

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down. Really inside information that nobody
tells you. I don't think if the

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media know this. So there's a
lot going on on the surface. So

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if you try to figure out why
we don't have enough context of the why

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the market knows everything right now the
people that know everything, Yeah, yeah,

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all right, So we're gonna see
gold. What's ahead for gold?

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It is coming, It is coming. It's disappointed for a lot of people

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who played on the long side on
the short side. But if people every

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time it goes up to buy and
they lose a lot of money and then

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it get out again. It's coming
late in the year, the blue market

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will start again. Okay, all
right, I'll buy that. Any other

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markets. What about oil and not
gas? Well, longer term net gas

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is going higher again, and but
kutos also going higher again. You'll be

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surprised how high can go again.
And the inflation is coming back. Cycles

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battoped on the inflation and they don't
mention it yet. One of these days

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the inflation that must come out,
and everybody is going to be in a

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crisis because nobody pays attention. And
if you look at my cycle work again,

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what you said is you're gonna have
a free twelve. What you forgot

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to say is it's a free twelve
for thirty days, so you get it

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for free. So it's worth while
seeing how these cycles look, even if

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you don't want to continue with it. Have an idea how the investors look,

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you know, the knowledgeably investors looking
how to approach markets. Yeah,

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highly recommended, highly highly recommended for
sure. So all right, food prices,

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we soybeans and all that, what
do we have to look forward to

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if inflation is going up, it's
going to take them as well? Right,

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Yeah, it's nothing the small gas
prudes, the food prices for next

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touple of weeks, I exactly.
The commodities coord we soybeans on adoptment and

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got to gotee down. Interesting all
right, all right, and any other

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markets we should be looking at,
Well, we're still with the bitcoin cycles.

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Don't that good? And it's just
trading about twenty nine thousand were totally

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out to go the cycle. If
it's all on twenty eight thousands, they

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have a big down move again and
all this expectation of the bitcoin is not

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is not gonna happen at the moment. But the major I think that ophing

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is it's like you know, the
strays. Yeah, and as stock Mark,

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it's also especially up stop markets at
True Oil. We you know,

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we do a lot with the USO. That's a stunt that follows the true

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people who don't want to trade qualities. And we have un g at e

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E TP that follows natural guests and
it goes excellent. All right, So

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wait, wait away. If I
mentioned i'm a bit, I'm a bit

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out of a track record. If
you go to a website, you see

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a track record and you'll be astonished
how what that looks like? Track record?

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Yeah, I know you've got quite
the track record for sure. So

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all right, so we want to
be very cautious about the market, and

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we want to really be looking at
at this bricks currency where it's going to

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head. A question about China,
I mean, I know it's in the

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news a lot. They're flooding and
buildings collapsing right and left. You get

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what are your charts telling me about
China? The funny thing is China looks

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more deflationary than inflationary, and some
of the big clients at the heab over

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there, they think it's it starts
to be a big mess. It's getting

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out of control, so meltdown.
I mean, I know the real estate

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I remember like five years ago you
said, Kerry, go buy small apartments,

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vacation apartments, rent them out condas
vacation homes. You still think that's

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a good a good thing to do. No, because they said two bushes

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that work with me. They started
selling them already a while ago. The

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site it's still holding for another seven
eight months. But then you really have

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to be out. Yeah, all
right, so housing housing is going to

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take a hit as well. Huh
yeah. But the good thing is now

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if you sell, you know,
you can get two year no to five

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percent, so you can san of
I'm getting the rentals to two of you

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to even a five you know,
maybe four of so you get paid to

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wait. So and then that's a
nice yeah, and then you jump back

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in. All right, Well,
go over to Charles Nanner dot com get

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your thirty day free trial. You
will be really happy you did. Charles

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always appreciate you coming on sharing your
wisdom with us. You've got a question

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for Charles myself. The email addresses
k l at Kerry LUTs dot com.

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The link to Charles's site in the
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