WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:07.160 What are the fascinating experiences of visiting Egypt Are the monolithic sculptures. Very few 2 00:00:07.200 --> 00:00:11.320 people talk about them. Of course, visiting the Chiral Museum is filled with 3 00:00:11.960 --> 00:00:18.320 beautifully cut granite sculptures of all shapes and sizes. But I'm talking about the 4 00:00:18.399 --> 00:00:24.320 monoliths, the real megalithic sculptures that are not reviewed enough, not discussed enough. 5 00:00:24.359 --> 00:00:30.239 And today we have an expert who's going to bring us the details the 6 00:00:31.120 --> 00:00:37.000 colossal sculptures that are a part of ancient Egypt that have to be seen to 7 00:00:37.119 --> 00:00:43.799 be appreciated. We're talking about the Sphinx, We're talking about Abu Simbel, 8 00:00:44.320 --> 00:00:52.119 We're talking about the Colossi of Memnon, the ramsey M, the various monstrosities 9 00:00:52.719 --> 00:01:00.479 that are attributed to the pharaoh Ramses, and just how huge and amazing these 10 00:01:00.520 --> 00:01:06.799 sculptures are. Today, my guest is Muhammad Embriam, returning to talk about 11 00:01:06.920 --> 00:01:12.319 these amazing sculptures, how they were carved, what techniques were used, and 12 00:01:12.480 --> 00:01:21.120 why we have to look beyond our current science and technology to appreciate them. 13 00:01:21.159 --> 00:02:00.920 All this and more today on Earth Ancients for August fifth, twenty three. 14 00:02:00.760 --> 00:02:15.080 This is Earth Ancients. I'm your host Cliff Dunning, Hey here, you 15 00:02:15.120 --> 00:02:22.039 are welcome to the program today. This is a special time of year. 16 00:02:22.199 --> 00:02:30.560 August is our tour launch. It's our Grand Egyptian Tour number five launch that 17 00:02:30.800 --> 00:02:35.719 is going to be April twenty eighth through May nine, twenty twenty four. 18 00:02:36.919 --> 00:02:44.199 And as part of today's presentation, we are launching officially launching this tour. 19 00:02:44.800 --> 00:02:51.719 And this is important part of the year for us because our Egypt Tour, 20 00:02:52.680 --> 00:02:55.439 not only is it a sacred tour, and for those of you listening who 21 00:02:55.479 --> 00:03:02.960 have joined me and have had a chance to tour Egypt with Muhammad Imbrium, 22 00:03:04.520 --> 00:03:10.639 it is unique, it is special, and what we like to say is 23 00:03:10.680 --> 00:03:17.000 that it is a diplomatic tour. You are treated like a diplomat. As 24 00:03:17.039 --> 00:03:24.639 soon as you get off your plane and land in Cairo, everything is handled 25 00:03:24.680 --> 00:03:32.680 for you, from your visa arrangement to taking you to the hotel to checking 26 00:03:32.680 --> 00:03:38.879 you in, from the start of the tour to the end when you're dropped 27 00:03:38.879 --> 00:03:44.840 off, when you're dropped off at the Cairo airport to return home. Now, 28 00:03:45.479 --> 00:03:47.599 as I mentioned, we've been doing this for five years. This tour 29 00:03:47.680 --> 00:03:53.800 fills up very very quickly. Shin tour is special on so many different levels. 30 00:03:53.840 --> 00:04:00.360 I have talked to other people who do tours in Egypt, and typically 31 00:04:00.919 --> 00:04:06.080 it's part of a general audience tour, meaning that the visits to the temples, 32 00:04:06.120 --> 00:04:14.400 to the pyramids, to the museums, to special sites are all part 33 00:04:14.520 --> 00:04:21.160 of a general public tour the Earth Ancients. Grand Egyptian Tour is unique because 34 00:04:21.240 --> 00:04:26.519 I'd say eighty percent of it is private. We have a private bust, 35 00:04:27.160 --> 00:04:33.079 we have arrangements at the Red, the Bent, the Great Cheops Pyramid to 36 00:04:33.600 --> 00:04:43.000 visit and survey the interiors privately without any interruptions. Many of the temples we 37 00:04:43.120 --> 00:04:48.399 go to are private. One of my favorites is the half Or Temple. 38 00:04:48.439 --> 00:04:54.199 I mentioned it all the time. That's in a city called Dendera, and 39 00:04:54.319 --> 00:04:58.879 there's so much to take in. It's for most people, it's overwhelming, 40 00:04:59.560 --> 00:05:04.360 and this is why the photographs that you take and use as memories are so 41 00:05:04.480 --> 00:05:13.639 valuable. But again, today is the official launch of our Grand Egyptian Tour 42 00:05:14.199 --> 00:05:18.839 five number five. Again, the dates are April twenty eight through May ninth, 43 00:05:19.160 --> 00:05:27.680 twenty twenty four, and for the next sixty days we are giving a 44 00:05:27.720 --> 00:05:33.920 significant discount and the discount code that you can use when your register is GET 45 00:05:34.480 --> 00:05:44.319 twenty twenty four, Get twenty twenty four Grand Egyptian Tour twenty twenty four. 46 00:05:44.360 --> 00:05:48.199 Obviously we're not spelling it out or short union it, so when you use 47 00:05:48.279 --> 00:05:55.360 this code, you'll be given the discount GET twenty twenty four. 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Our focus is on the colossal monolithic sculptures that 74 00:08:24.120 --> 00:08:28.720 we encounter in Egypt, and I have to say this, there is no 75 00:08:28.800 --> 00:08:35.799 other place on the planet that has sculpture that is made from granite, and 76 00:08:35.840 --> 00:08:41.639 in some cases weighs up to a thousand tons. I'm gonna say that again, 77 00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:50.159 one thousand tons. If you follow me on the Earth Ancients Facebook page, 78 00:08:50.720 --> 00:08:58.120 I have posted numerous photos of the last tour where we went to Memphis, 79 00:08:58.240 --> 00:09:07.639 Memphis, Egypt and saw this amazing piece of stonework known as the Ramsey 80 00:09:07.720 --> 00:09:13.519 two sculpture. It is so big and it's it's it was damaged, it's 81 00:09:13.639 --> 00:09:18.799 it's about two hundred and fifty tons, it's laying on its back and when 82 00:09:18.879 --> 00:09:22.039 you and you're allowed to look at it very very closely, I think up 83 00:09:22.039 --> 00:09:28.519 to a couple of feet away. But the intricacy of the carving, the 84 00:09:30.080 --> 00:09:37.279 elegance of the of the body, the realism the clothing, just everything is 85 00:09:37.360 --> 00:09:43.320 done with such a high level of perfection and detail that at first you don't 86 00:09:43.360 --> 00:09:52.279 even consider the fact that it was machined. There's no way that the carving, 87 00:09:52.639 --> 00:09:56.240 the sanding, the polishing was done well. I mean, it was 88 00:09:56.360 --> 00:10:03.399 done by humans, but it's very very likely that the original cutting was done 89 00:10:03.440 --> 00:10:09.080 by some form of machinery. I kind of referred to die cutting where you 90 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:18.720 have a block of stone and you punch in information and either lasers or cutting 91 00:10:18.879 --> 00:10:26.799 devices or whatever is used to cut the rudimentary sculpture man, woman, animal, 92 00:10:26.879 --> 00:10:35.879 whatever it is, and then another device is attached and the sanding's done, 93 00:10:35.000 --> 00:10:41.840 and then the final polish is done. When you join us next year, 94 00:10:41.919 --> 00:10:46.919 when you see this sculpture out of this world, it is on a 95 00:10:48.600 --> 00:10:52.600 different scale, and a lot of people when they look at it, it's 96 00:10:52.720 --> 00:10:58.360 so beautiful, it's like hot. But the thing is it's a monstrosity, 97 00:10:58.399 --> 00:11:03.039 it's huge. How did they do it? Is the question. Now we're 98 00:11:03.039 --> 00:11:09.679 going to go through a series of visits and discuss the monolithic sculpture that we 99 00:11:11.360 --> 00:11:18.080 see on our tour from the Sphinx. Haven't been to Abu Symbol in a 100 00:11:18.120 --> 00:11:26.480 couple of years, but that it's attributed to Ramsey's a second, and that 101 00:11:26.679 --> 00:11:35.720 is a very interesting series of four monstrosities. They're ninety eight feet high. 102 00:11:37.200 --> 00:11:45.679 Each figure is four of them is sixty six feet tall and in total the 103 00:11:45.720 --> 00:11:54.679 design and four figures are four hundred and fifteen feet wide. Now you're gonna 104 00:11:54.720 --> 00:12:01.279 hear today that it's not true the story of Ramses asking his artisans to carve 105 00:12:01.360 --> 00:12:09.720 that. There's no way that it was carved by human hands, and we're 106 00:12:09.720 --> 00:12:15.679 going to learn exactly why it's true. And also we hear about a document 107 00:12:16.480 --> 00:12:22.559 which is it's kind of telling that during the time of Ramsey's he was asked 108 00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:28.279 he asked one of his engineers to please repair I think it's it's a figure 109 00:12:28.360 --> 00:12:35.399 number three. During an earthquake, the head and part of the shoulders were 110 00:12:35.519 --> 00:12:43.679 damaged and fell down in front of the group of sculptures that make up the 111 00:12:43.159 --> 00:12:50.919 Abu symbol design. His engineers basically report back and say, we can't do 112 00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:54.960 it. We don't know what, we don't have the technology, we don't 113 00:12:54.000 --> 00:12:58.879 have the skill set to do it. Well, that's a huge giveaway that 114 00:12:58.600 --> 00:13:05.279 there's no way that Ramsey is the second actually had this thing commissioned it before 115 00:13:05.360 --> 00:13:11.759 his time. And this is the narrative that we have with these monolithic sculptures 116 00:13:11.759 --> 00:13:20.519 that we'll be talking about today. These pharrows had massive egos and they would 117 00:13:20.519 --> 00:13:28.000 put their cartouche on these sculptures. Chris Dunn Christopher Dunn, in his earliest 118 00:13:28.039 --> 00:13:35.559 books on Egypt, highlights this, especially at Luxor Temple, where we have 119 00:13:35.720 --> 00:13:41.600 a group of granite monstrosities that weigh in at about two hundred and fifty tons 120 00:13:41.679 --> 00:13:48.720 each, sculptures that are attributed to him. But what Chris Dunn reminds us 121 00:13:48.799 --> 00:13:54.519 as we observe these huge monoliths is the fact that they all look the same. 122 00:13:56.320 --> 00:14:01.799 They don't represent him whatsoever. And what they do in is the ideal 123 00:14:01.240 --> 00:14:07.840 man, the ideal Homo sapiens sapiens. And it's very very likely, and 124 00:14:07.919 --> 00:14:13.639 we'll hear more about this today, that these are pre Deluvian, pre flood, 125 00:14:13.799 --> 00:14:20.799 pre cataclysm, the previous epoch of culture, and it's a different science, 126 00:14:20.840 --> 00:14:28.960 it's a different physics. They developed over thousands of years and developed what 127 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:37.320 we think is a earth based science using gravity, using telurric energy, different 128 00:14:37.360 --> 00:14:41.720 kinds of energy, and they sourced it in manners that we don't know about. 129 00:14:41.799 --> 00:14:45.159 Now. We're gonna have Chris down on the program. I think his 130 00:14:45.240 --> 00:14:50.960 books coming out next year in January. His new book basically outlines the power 131 00:14:52.120 --> 00:14:58.840 generation that was channeled through and two the different devices that were used to cut 132 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:05.919 these monoliths. And it's going to bring up a whole new grouping, a 133 00:15:05.960 --> 00:15:13.639 whole new generation of inquiry into this pre Deluvian culture. And the more we 134 00:15:13.679 --> 00:15:20.720 can identify the tools that they use, the better will understand and have an 135 00:15:20.759 --> 00:15:28.840 idea. This is far in a way above and beyond anything Egyptology can present 136 00:15:28.919 --> 00:15:33.759 to us. They just do not have a grasp of anything having to do 137 00:15:33.799 --> 00:15:37.759 with technology. And when you go to the Cairo Museum, which we will 138 00:15:37.879 --> 00:15:43.200 visit, when you go to any Egyptian museum and read what they say about 139 00:15:43.600 --> 00:15:50.279 sculptures, it's it's from the nineteen twenties, nineteen thirties, it's so behind 140 00:15:50.320 --> 00:15:56.679 the times. And unfortunately, this is why doctor Karakuni, who we've had 141 00:15:56.720 --> 00:16:03.360 on the show very very a few times times now from UCLA. She's an 142 00:16:03.639 --> 00:16:08.759 Egyptologist, she flat out says Egyptology is dead. Now that's a terrible thing 143 00:16:10.240 --> 00:16:15.559 I feel to say to young archaeologists who want to become an Egyptologist. But 144 00:16:15.679 --> 00:16:22.279 the fact of the matter is if you cannot break out of this mindset that 145 00:16:22.480 --> 00:16:30.559 things are cards with copper chisels and mallets, then you are relegated to the 146 00:16:30.679 --> 00:16:37.720 dark ages. We see this with archaeology and their inability on many cases not 147 00:16:37.799 --> 00:16:42.759 to use a multidisciplinary approach. And by the way, when I say multidisciplinary, 148 00:16:42.840 --> 00:16:48.200 that means bringing in chemists, bringing in engineers, bringing in building experts 149 00:16:48.240 --> 00:16:53.080 to look at sculptures, to look at pyramids, to look at buildings, 150 00:16:53.200 --> 00:17:00.000 and now analyze them and then bring us their point of you. When you 151 00:17:00.159 --> 00:17:07.119 do that, then you take the latest science, the latest technology, and 152 00:17:07.279 --> 00:17:11.720 you apply it to the ancient past to get us up to speed. Now 153 00:17:11.759 --> 00:17:19.200 we see this with these scans of the pyramid done by the Italian team that 154 00:17:19.400 --> 00:17:26.319 just came up. They used a new technology to scan the Cheops Pyramid with 155 00:17:26.400 --> 00:17:32.200 acoustic waves and what did they find. They found new rooms, new shafts, 156 00:17:32.319 --> 00:17:41.000 new canals, new underground chambers that connect the Great Pyramid to waterway, 157 00:17:41.119 --> 00:17:47.119 two canals that bring water into the guts of the pyramid and combine it with 158 00:17:47.279 --> 00:17:53.880 perhaps according to Chris Dunn, hydrogen oxygen, and his theory is the Great 159 00:17:53.880 --> 00:18:03.480 Pyramid is a machine. If you continue to think that these objects are for 160 00:18:03.519 --> 00:18:11.200 the death cult of the Great Egyptians, that's the last dynasty, and it's 161 00:18:11.319 --> 00:18:22.039 also not correct. So the challenge of Orthodox archaeology and Orthodox Egyptology is to 162 00:18:22.119 --> 00:18:27.799 come up to speed because most of us when we go to these places like 163 00:18:27.960 --> 00:18:36.839 Egypt and we're told that granite sculptures are carved with copper chisels and wooden mallets. 164 00:18:37.319 --> 00:18:41.480 It's laughable. It's laughable. So and I'm not going to name names 165 00:18:42.039 --> 00:18:48.319 of the representative representatives of Egyptology because we don't need to, we don't need 166 00:18:48.359 --> 00:18:56.119 to mention them. So today's program goes through and takes us to looks Are. 167 00:18:56.279 --> 00:19:00.960 We're going to see and talk about the Colossi of mem On the ramsey 168 00:19:02.160 --> 00:19:08.519 M, the largest kneeling sculpture in the world, one thousand tons and at 169 00:19:08.559 --> 00:19:15.119 its peak it was sixty two feet tall. We're also gonna I mentioned the 170 00:19:15.160 --> 00:19:22.400 Sphinx. We're gonna talk about a number of sculptures that defy logic. And 171 00:19:22.440 --> 00:19:26.839 when I say defy logic, we go to We're gonna talk about Hathor, 172 00:19:27.200 --> 00:19:34.359 Karnac, looks Are and another places that have sculptures from what is thought was 173 00:19:36.240 --> 00:19:41.920 the Old dynasty. Also, one of the other areas that is discussed is 174 00:19:42.200 --> 00:19:52.319 are these amazing stone bowls and vases and plates and other what looks like a 175 00:19:52.440 --> 00:20:00.880 dishware that is found in the thousands at Sakara. Now this is a real 176 00:20:00.079 --> 00:20:07.680 mystery simply because it is the items are found in graves that date back four 177 00:20:07.759 --> 00:20:12.519 or five thousand years and when you look at the graves, they're very rudimentary, 178 00:20:14.079 --> 00:20:18.039 you know, wooden coffins, somewhat mummified, somewhat not. This is 179 00:20:18.319 --> 00:20:26.000 some old dynasty material, old kingdom. But these items are prediluvian and we 180 00:20:26.079 --> 00:20:30.759 don't know how they got there. But to date, there are over forty 181 00:20:30.960 --> 00:20:41.880 thousand stone vases, plates, dishware that are found in museums. When they 182 00:20:41.880 --> 00:20:45.480 were first distributed, you could buy them for a few hundred dollars. Now 183 00:20:45.559 --> 00:20:52.400 they're a peace cost thousands. But the question is most of them were cut 184 00:20:52.440 --> 00:20:56.599 on lathes, machines that spin at a high rate and are cut and there's 185 00:20:56.640 --> 00:21:02.720 some very very anomalous features to these. This is part of our discussion as 186 00:21:02.759 --> 00:21:10.400 well, So I want to mention that there is a very detailed gallery of 187 00:21:10.440 --> 00:21:19.839 these sculpture monoliths and where they're sitting currently. It's very likely that we've only 188 00:21:19.880 --> 00:21:23.680 seen the tip of the iceberg because so much of Egypt is still covered in 189 00:21:23.759 --> 00:21:30.359 sand and there is a very slow progress when it comes to excavating. And 190 00:21:32.160 --> 00:21:36.759 sculptures also bring up a lot of questions that are hard to answer, like 191 00:21:36.759 --> 00:21:41.319 who to hell cut them and by what means because we're talking. When you 192 00:21:41.359 --> 00:21:47.319 talk about rose granite, it's just a couple of degrees before diamond hardness, 193 00:21:48.000 --> 00:21:52.839 and that's just unimaginable. And when you see the elegance. And for those 194 00:21:52.880 --> 00:21:57.519 of you who are able to come on our grant Egyptian Tour five, we 195 00:21:59.480 --> 00:22:03.119 and I I'm all all over Muhammad on this. I'm like, we have 196 00:22:03.319 --> 00:22:10.279 to see these monoliths. We changed our itinerary this year. For those of 197 00:22:10.279 --> 00:22:17.279 you who are on the twenty twenty three tour, I purposely changed the itinerary 198 00:22:17.279 --> 00:22:21.079 while we were in Sakara. Cut it short, so we get on a 199 00:22:21.079 --> 00:22:26.799 bus and drove whatever it was a forty five minute drive to the Outdoor Museum 200 00:22:26.839 --> 00:22:33.880 of Memphis to see this monolithic sculpture that is known as the Ramsey two sculpture 201 00:22:34.039 --> 00:22:40.920 that is just gorgeous two hundred and fifty tons. It's missing part of both 202 00:22:41.039 --> 00:22:47.079 legs and it's somewhat damaged on one side, but it is elegant. It 203 00:22:47.240 --> 00:22:52.440 is the most gorgeous sculpture or elbows ever see. And and so as these 204 00:22:52.519 --> 00:22:57.480 come about, as they're discovered bits and pieces of the sculpture on our tours. 205 00:22:59.039 --> 00:23:02.119 Other sculptures, I should say, well, we'll see other sculptures that 206 00:23:02.160 --> 00:23:07.559 are up and coming and haven't been typically viewed by the public when they become 207 00:23:07.559 --> 00:23:11.559 available. Well, we'll learn about it. So again, join us for 208 00:23:11.680 --> 00:23:19.000 twenty twenty four go to Earth Ancients dot com forward slash Tours. So today's 209 00:23:19.039 --> 00:23:29.839 program is Unknown Architects of Egypt's Colossal Sculpture and my guest is Muhammad Imbrium. 210 00:24:15.039 --> 00:24:19.640 So I'm really excited this week because we are launching our twenty twenty four Grand 211 00:24:19.640 --> 00:24:27.000 Egyptian Tour for the year, and this means Muhammad Imbrium is our guest today 212 00:24:27.160 --> 00:24:33.519 and we are talking about one of the really fascinating aspects of visiting ancient Egypt, 213 00:24:33.559 --> 00:24:41.119 which is the statuary. And why this is fascinating is that we really 214 00:24:41.160 --> 00:24:48.400 don't know who these people are that built these colossal and I say colossal, 215 00:24:48.480 --> 00:24:56.200 I'm talking about fifty to one thousand ton statues that are sprinkled on the itinerary 216 00:24:56.359 --> 00:25:02.440 that we visit. Now today, Muhammad's with me. We're going to talk 217 00:25:02.440 --> 00:25:07.079 about some of the sites that are quite unique, but we're also going to 218 00:25:07.160 --> 00:25:15.160 talk real briefly about a period in Egyptian history that is not discussed by Egyptologists. 219 00:25:15.480 --> 00:25:22.640 This is pre dynastic. This is a period where we find megalithic sized 220 00:25:22.759 --> 00:25:29.079 temples. Obviously we see the pyramids, but on the tour that we take, 221 00:25:29.559 --> 00:25:36.480 we encounter monstrosities of sculptures. We're talking, like I said, in 222 00:25:36.519 --> 00:25:41.200 the megaton scope. So without further ado, Muhammad, it's great to see 223 00:25:41.200 --> 00:25:45.640 you. How are you doing in Cairo? High cliff? Cairo is very 224 00:25:45.960 --> 00:25:52.440 warm weather or hot weather. Hell, but I'm sending you greetings and strong 225 00:25:52.720 --> 00:25:56.599 energy from Cairo. Fantastic, great to see you. Look, look fantastic. 226 00:25:56.599 --> 00:26:02.079 I want to mention to our audience that Muhammad is releasing his first book 227 00:26:02.119 --> 00:26:07.759 called Egypt Before Written History, and this comes out in the fall, and 228 00:26:07.839 --> 00:26:11.039 we're going to bring a little bit of that material in to this discussion today 229 00:26:11.400 --> 00:26:17.599 so we can get a sense of what early Egypt was all about. Mohammed, 230 00:26:18.240 --> 00:26:22.880 you write that there is evidence of early man that goes back thousands of 231 00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:29.400 years. How early is Homo sapien sapien found in Egypt? How early are 232 00:26:29.440 --> 00:26:36.400 the skeletal remains? Okay, if we talk about human remains, we found 233 00:26:37.319 --> 00:26:45.079 several skeletons from different ages. We found skeletons seventeen thousand BC. I'm talking 234 00:26:45.119 --> 00:26:52.720 now about before ten thousand BC, because we have thousands of skeletons like nine 235 00:26:52.759 --> 00:26:57.759 thousand BC eight thousand BC. But I'm talking now very early. So we 236 00:26:57.839 --> 00:27:04.759 have seventeen thousands. We have twenty four thousand called the Copena men. This 237 00:27:04.839 --> 00:27:11.359 is near Us one. We have thirty five thousand, thirty thirty five thousand 238 00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:19.119 BC, thirty five thousand BC okay, near Abidus called Neslet hatter men. 239 00:27:19.759 --> 00:27:26.400 And taramsa child. This is the oldest skeleton we found in Egypt. And 240 00:27:26.440 --> 00:27:27.720 by the way, they were two, not just one, but it is 241 00:27:29.000 --> 00:27:32.279 one in better condition. Boss are in bad condition, but there is one 242 00:27:32.319 --> 00:27:34.880 in better condition than the other. We call it Taramsa child. It's for 243 00:27:34.920 --> 00:27:40.599 a child about eight to ten years old. This is fifty five thousand BC. 244 00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:47.480 That's a Homo sapien sapien modern human. Ah, yes, okay, 245 00:27:48.319 --> 00:27:55.279 especially because that for a child. And as I told you, the skeleton 246 00:27:55.759 --> 00:28:00.400 is not in a good shape. But the one we found fifty five thousand 247 00:28:00.440 --> 00:28:07.000 BC is the one we can clearly say Homo sibian. Okay. Now, 248 00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:12.839 one of the funny things about ancient Egypt is that at Sakara. More than 249 00:28:12.920 --> 00:28:23.000 forty thousand of these perfectly carved stone balls, vases and I don't know just 250 00:28:23.400 --> 00:28:29.880 used where have been discovered and we don't know how old they are, but 251 00:28:30.440 --> 00:28:36.160 they're found in grave sites that are extremely old. Right, yes, um, 252 00:28:37.160 --> 00:28:47.759 according to the the details of the surrounding area, these objects belonged to 253 00:28:48.119 --> 00:28:53.160 the first and the Second dynasty. But this is against logic completely, this 254 00:28:53.279 --> 00:29:00.599 is against any common sense. Why because we know for sure that dynasty dynasty 255 00:29:00.599 --> 00:29:07.319 too and the era before them, pre dynastic Egyptians, we about five thousand 256 00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:11.599 BC till seven thousand BC, maybe we can include nine thousand BC. They 257 00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:18.720 were primitive, they have primitive tools, primitive techniques, and they were using 258 00:29:18.400 --> 00:29:26.759 clay and month. So they're their objects, all the containers, the jars, 259 00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:33.240 all the blades from clay. So no way to accept this fact or 260 00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:41.440 this strong information that the high quality, highly polished jars from alabaster, from 261 00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:47.559 granite, from dirite, from schist, and some of them from Lapis lazuli, 262 00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:52.119 which is not Egyptian materials, some from ammetist and I'm telling you that 263 00:29:52.279 --> 00:29:57.759 some of them it is not easy to be done nowadays. Was our modern 264 00:29:57.799 --> 00:30:04.559 technology so we have to prepare very special machines, and it must be a 265 00:30:04.680 --> 00:30:12.799 very high efficient machine. Was maybe a computer program to cut it from to 266 00:30:14.599 --> 00:30:19.440 carve it from outside, and the same design from insight, So it is 267 00:30:19.640 --> 00:30:26.160 just the hollow thing from insight space. No, it takes the same waves 268 00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:33.799 and the same curves from insight. So one one what I say that the 269 00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:41.119 only explanation I can convince me that these were made by people, advanced people 270 00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:45.759 before what we call it bree Dynastics before nine thousand BC, before the Old 271 00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:52.319 Kingdom, which would be twenty six hundred BC, before what we call them 272 00:30:52.400 --> 00:30:56.799 dynastis, before before the dynasts, Okay, all of them is. So 273 00:30:56.839 --> 00:31:03.240 we talk about a civilization existed and ended before ten thousand, five hundreds. 274 00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:12.839 Okay, what do we know about a cataclysmic event that would wipe the civilization 275 00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:18.839 of Predynastics off the planet? Now, Robert Shock talks about solar flares, 276 00:31:19.599 --> 00:31:29.440 Graham Hancock talks about a huge asteroid hitting the Earth and causing a terminating event 277 00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:36.799 wiping off the planetary life of humans or animals. But if this happened twelve 278 00:31:36.839 --> 00:31:41.759 thousand plus years ago, how do we know what happened in Egypt. Do 279 00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:45.440 you what do you ascribe to you? Do you think it's shocks idea? 280 00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:51.880 And I ask you this because we know it's Sakara and other places like that. 281 00:31:51.920 --> 00:31:56.319 There's underground cities or underground living spaces. But so what do you say 282 00:31:56.599 --> 00:32:01.480 about that? I am familiar are more with the theory of doctor Robert Shock. 283 00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:07.119 Okay, but if I if you allow me, I can add a 284 00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:14.599 little bit that what that disaster in my opinion, and we must mention a 285 00:32:14.680 --> 00:32:22.160 very important book for doctor bull lave La yet Oh right wrote. I meet 286 00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:29.920 him personally three years in America, and we shared a little bit about that 287 00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:36.759 book, okay, because his story is mentioned a story from the Egyptian mythology. 288 00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:40.960 We call it the destruction of mankind. So the ancient Egyptians themselves wrote 289 00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:46.160 a story about this, okay. So I think it was more like waves 290 00:32:46.680 --> 00:32:53.559 from the sun, electromagnetic waves and then heat waves and some kind of radiation 291 00:32:54.640 --> 00:33:01.079 in the technology in one second and killed people of course, so people had 292 00:33:01.160 --> 00:33:08.160 to hide under the ground. Okay. Later after because of this, the 293 00:33:08.279 --> 00:33:15.400 ice was melted on the north of and that the what we can call it 294 00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:17.839 flood or the end of the ice age. At nine thousand and seven hundred 295 00:33:17.920 --> 00:33:22.880 BC happened. Okay, so that's why. Now I took about two important 296 00:33:23.119 --> 00:33:30.119 dates nine thousand and seven hundred BC. But before this, the actual reason 297 00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:37.079 or disaster was ten thousand, five hundred BC. Ten. Yes, this 298 00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:45.480 was the disaster which made or forced the survivors to hide under the ground like 299 00:33:45.079 --> 00:33:53.839 these tunnel systems and underground shafts we can see easily in Sakkara and many other 300 00:33:53.960 --> 00:33:59.000 places. By the way, I saw many in Loxor in Lace in Middle 301 00:33:59.039 --> 00:34:05.319 Egypt called maybe yeah, and there are some in Giza under right, Okay, 302 00:34:05.960 --> 00:34:09.119 So I think the flood nine thousand, seven hundred BC, maybe it 303 00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:15.519 was not that bad. It was a way to clean and too, to 304 00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:22.840 give a chance for Earth to survive again, and maybe for agriculture. Okay. 305 00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:27.039 Now, one of the things I'd like your opinion on is the fact 306 00:34:27.119 --> 00:34:35.760 that these predynastics, these early people built in megalithic stone, huge granite blocks 307 00:34:36.119 --> 00:34:45.840 for floors. They're temples at Hathor and at Karnak and luks Are and other 308 00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:55.000 places. These are megalithic stone structures that were I believe, and I want 309 00:34:55.039 --> 00:35:02.159 your opinion. They were discovered by the Pharaohs and repurposed. But what do 310 00:35:02.239 --> 00:35:09.119 you say about that that was very clear in many cases. Let me first 311 00:35:09.239 --> 00:35:15.920 give you a very short story. Can you explain what we're talking about during 312 00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:21.599 the time of frans As the second and we talk about New Kingdom time around 313 00:35:21.679 --> 00:35:27.599 eleven hundred BC, and this supposed to be the time or the greatest time 314 00:35:27.719 --> 00:35:32.360 of the Egyptian civilization. Okay, it was the beak of the technology, 315 00:35:34.119 --> 00:35:39.360 knowledge, literature, medicine, everything. Okay. The story says that he 316 00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:45.760 summoned his the high priest or the one who had the title as high priest 317 00:35:45.840 --> 00:35:53.320 and also the architect or the supervisor of the royal buildings, and asking him 318 00:35:53.599 --> 00:36:00.960 why you didn't fix the statue. They were referring to the broken statue of 319 00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:07.480 Abu Simbol Temple the front. Oh yeah, there are four seated statues. 320 00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:10.599 One is broken number three if you count from the right side. Yeah, 321 00:36:13.079 --> 00:36:17.159 there was a kind of an earthquake. And that is the story which I 322 00:36:17.199 --> 00:36:22.000 don't trust much about the reason. I think that the statue was already broken 323 00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:25.440 and you're trying to fix it, Okay. So I always say, if 324 00:36:27.840 --> 00:36:32.840 if the place or anything was made by a person and he has great ability 325 00:36:34.519 --> 00:36:38.559 and or a great technology to do it. He can fix anything. Okay, 326 00:36:39.719 --> 00:36:45.519 he can do something, but he couldn't Okay, So what does mean 327 00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:52.239 that they didn't have the technology to fix it because they are not the builders 328 00:36:53.199 --> 00:36:59.360 and the same thing or something similar the two statues in front of locks of 329 00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:05.599 temple, remember these two big seat to the statues also have the name runs 330 00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:09.840 as a second, when you are going inside the statue to the right side, 331 00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:15.400 there is a big crack on the right side of the statue. Okay, 332 00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:22.360 and they made the kind of a carving, like a square rectangular shape 333 00:37:23.000 --> 00:37:30.559 to fill it with wood or maybe metal in order to control the crack because 334 00:37:30.559 --> 00:37:36.440 the crack is expanding. Okay. I see that this is something not accepted 335 00:37:36.920 --> 00:37:39.760 because if they are the builders, the true builders, they're going to take 336 00:37:39.840 --> 00:37:47.159 this piece away and bring another piece and carve the new piece as a coupe 337 00:37:47.320 --> 00:37:57.280 from the first statue. So my conclusion that we can see different techniques in 338 00:37:57.639 --> 00:38:02.679 many statues, but we under stand and we can do good analysis and tracking 339 00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:07.159 to each technique how it tools started and what kind of tools they had, 340 00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:15.440 and what kind of challenges they faced and how they overcome these challenges except one 341 00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:21.880 technique. We don't know anything about it, the megalithic size statues. I 342 00:38:21.960 --> 00:38:24.880 don't know how they cut the stone from the first place. We don't know 343 00:38:24.960 --> 00:38:30.039 how they transported the stone. Because we are talking about huge flocks. You 344 00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:37.360 know, if we escape all the challenges, all the possible the difficulties, 345 00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:45.960 there is one great challenge. How to move big clock like the obelisk as 346 00:38:45.960 --> 00:38:51.639 an example, or like the standing status like the one used still in Memphis 347 00:38:51.719 --> 00:38:58.079 of Air Museum. Okay, it is a huge, long beast of a 348 00:38:58.159 --> 00:39:02.239 stone, which now this is how I see it every time I talk about 349 00:39:02.280 --> 00:39:09.599 it can be cracked in any second during moving this piece from place to an, 350 00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:16.320 from the quarry to the site, with any pressure difference between the front 351 00:39:16.440 --> 00:39:22.039 and the bottom. That it is very possible that the workers can do mistakes, 352 00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:28.360 very possible that some kind of vibration something wrong. Okay, it is 353 00:39:28.559 --> 00:39:32.199 very high risk. I'm talking about almost ninety nine percent, maybe nine to 354 00:39:32.360 --> 00:39:37.719 nine point nine. So this piece can be broken in any second. And 355 00:39:37.960 --> 00:39:42.280 we are talking about long journey. It is not a journey of one hour 356 00:39:42.559 --> 00:39:46.440 or show to distance. It's a long journey, especially from a swan to 357 00:39:46.719 --> 00:39:52.920 loxor or from a swan Tokyo. Okay, So I don't think people with 358 00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:59.320 primitive tools they will do this great risk. In my opinion, if they 359 00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:04.280 made this big mistake, they will keep doing the same thing. Forever they 360 00:40:04.360 --> 00:40:07.440 cut the piece of a stone, it will be broken or cracked, and 361 00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:09.039 then they have to go again, and then it will be broken, and 362 00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:16.360 then you'll go back again. Okay. So that's why I believe that these 363 00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:27.000 megalithic structures were built by very advanced civilization, was great technology. And the 364 00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:31.440 diagnostis the rulers inherited these sites, of course, and they put their names 365 00:40:31.559 --> 00:40:37.360 on them. But I you know, you say that every time, and 366 00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:40.360 you know Chris Dunn also believes the same thing when he wrote in his book 367 00:40:42.280 --> 00:40:52.360 Advanced Machining Ancient Ancient Egypt. But do you think it's possible that ten fifteen, 368 00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:59.320 twenty thousand years ago earth gravitational field was different and people were able to 369 00:40:59.440 --> 00:41:07.480 move megalithic monolithic size multi ton blocks of granite with ease? Or is it 370 00:41:07.639 --> 00:41:16.519 their technology was just very very acute and very accurate. Okay, that is 371 00:41:16.679 --> 00:41:23.039 very good question. Are we talking about one challenge, which is the heavyweight 372 00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:30.239 of the object only or we are talking about many challenges. Of course, 373 00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:34.880 we are talking about many challenges. Of course. The tool, how they 374 00:41:35.559 --> 00:41:39.519 what kind of tool can cut granite this way? What kind of tool can 375 00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:47.400 or technique can go forty meters under the ground to cut long Because I can 376 00:41:47.559 --> 00:41:53.639 cut small clock from any part of the query, but I can cut bigger 377 00:41:53.719 --> 00:42:00.920 clucks, but from specific locations lists in number them, the more size is 378 00:42:01.239 --> 00:42:06.760 I want the list options I have, right, Okay, so now we 379 00:42:07.159 --> 00:42:12.840 we we don't talk anymore about heavyweight, but we we talk about very precise 380 00:42:13.119 --> 00:42:17.440 geological work. And in my opinion, they must have devices to check the 381 00:42:19.000 --> 00:42:23.320 quality of the ground, the quality of the stone, because if it ended 382 00:42:23.440 --> 00:42:30.920 up was a kind of weak location or weak condensity contest, how to collect 383 00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:40.239 condensity when the stone is not so strong in certain parts or consistency consistency Yeah, 384 00:42:40.320 --> 00:42:47.199 okay, now I think it's called it's condensed contest. It'll come to 385 00:42:47.239 --> 00:42:52.880 me in a minute. Yeah, but it is not like very strong, 386 00:42:53.559 --> 00:43:00.719 Okay, like the especially when I talk about granite, the condensed dense tiers. 387 00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:07.400 Okay, okay, the condensed team, they must become very sure that 388 00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:13.880 it is high quality because as I told you the moment they try to get 389 00:43:13.960 --> 00:43:21.239 this piece out, it will be broken. Okay, number three or number 390 00:43:21.280 --> 00:43:28.039 four carving this how they do the facial details the neck are the muscles you 391 00:43:28.159 --> 00:43:32.280 have seen. I always say that there are some statues can be taken to 392 00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:38.400 the medicine school to show the students. This is the perfect human anatomy, 393 00:43:38.679 --> 00:43:45.320 the subtleties of the muscular sure as they is exposed through the skin. Exactly. 394 00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:50.800 Yeah, there is a statue in the Egyptian Museum that the statue is 395 00:43:51.159 --> 00:43:55.280 having very strong fist tightened, fist closed first, and because of that, 396 00:43:55.800 --> 00:44:00.719 I'm showing my clients. Now you can see the near the elbow, the 397 00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:06.199 muscles that it happens only when you do your hand this way. Yeah, 398 00:44:06.360 --> 00:44:10.480 okay, it's open. Let these muscles will not be clear. Yeah. 399 00:44:10.760 --> 00:44:20.360 So it does not only the gravity problem not It is also how they cut, 400 00:44:20.440 --> 00:44:24.760 how they transfer, how they carve. Okay, So yes, for 401 00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:30.119 sure, in my opinion, we are talking about high technology, nothing else. 402 00:44:30.519 --> 00:44:36.880 Yes, maybe the gravity was different one day, but I don't think 403 00:44:36.960 --> 00:44:43.480 that this is the case. So you're talking about pure technology, a technological 404 00:44:43.840 --> 00:44:52.280 race of humans. We're able to cut granite from the quarry transport it cut 405 00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:58.719 it and set it in place purely with technology, nothing to do with gravity. 406 00:44:59.079 --> 00:45:08.360 It was just technological society, exactly one technological solutions. We're gonna take 407 00:45:08.360 --> 00:45:15.199 a short commercial break to allow our sponsors to identify themselves, and we will 408 00:45:15.239 --> 00:45:17.159 be right back with my guest today, Muhammed Embraham. He is coming to 409 00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:57.760 us today from Cairo. We'll be right back. My guest today is Mohammed 410 00:45:57.840 --> 00:46:01.599 Embriham. He's coming to us from Cairo, and he is the author of 411 00:46:01.639 --> 00:46:07.400 an upcoming book called Egypt Before Written History, and we're getting a little bit 412 00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:09.320 of that book today. That book will not be out to the fall twenty 413 00:46:09.400 --> 00:46:16.199 twenty three, but we are hearing from him firsthand his knowledge as someone who's 414 00:46:16.199 --> 00:46:23.679 lived in Cairo his entire life, who is interpreting the antiquities through the indigenous 415 00:46:23.719 --> 00:46:30.599 people who still live there. And we're speaking today on the monolithic monstrosities. 416 00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:39.079 Are the colossus of statues that litter a number of different parts of Egypt that 417 00:46:39.280 --> 00:46:45.719 lead us to believe that there was an older, very very sophisticated people that 418 00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:51.960 used to live there. They really show us their prowess. And when we 419 00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:57.039 go to the Colossi of Memnon, where you have a seven hundred and twenty 420 00:46:57.199 --> 00:47:02.280 ton block six defeat tall two times that and how in the hell did they 421 00:47:02.360 --> 00:47:07.039 move those? We don't know do it? And now and this is now, 422 00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:12.079 as I to my people, this is another if I can call it, 423 00:47:12.280 --> 00:47:16.239 funny information because we all all the time we talk about granite from us, 424 00:47:16.280 --> 00:47:21.000 one granite from us. Now this is now different case. This is 425 00:47:21.119 --> 00:47:27.920 quartzide from Cairo. So we are in Luxor and we are looking to a 426 00:47:28.079 --> 00:47:34.559 stone. Quartzide stone was brought from Cairo. So as if they are telling 427 00:47:34.719 --> 00:47:42.400 us now we have another team, completely different team deals quarteside. Because by 428 00:47:42.440 --> 00:47:46.400 the way, this is very important to talk about and to make it clear 429 00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:52.679 to our audience that when you deal with one type of a stone many years, 430 00:47:52.800 --> 00:47:59.280 you become a professional. Okay, But as of the Egyptians, because 431 00:47:59.360 --> 00:48:06.840 of their great knowledge, that was not something was not causing problems. Because 432 00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:12.760 when you become an expert in one kind of stone, all your work must 433 00:48:12.840 --> 00:48:15.000 be from this stone. But this is the one you understand, you know 434 00:48:15.079 --> 00:48:19.880 all the conditions, all the troubles, right, But you'll find the Egyptians 435 00:48:20.039 --> 00:48:27.000 used all the known stones in Egypt they used sandy stones, limestone, alabaster, 436 00:48:28.079 --> 00:48:31.079 chest they used basalt, they used to granite, different types of granite, 437 00:48:31.119 --> 00:48:37.320 the used quarters. So they are telling us that there were many groups 438 00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:44.599 expert in different stone qualities. Yeah, I don't think this will come by 439 00:48:45.719 --> 00:48:51.719 working long time. Now that it has to be. It has to be 440 00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:59.079 knowledge first, great knowledge with high technology. I want to ask you we 441 00:48:59.440 --> 00:49:04.239 were and by the way, thank you for changing our itinerary this year to 442 00:49:05.000 --> 00:49:09.920 get a chance to visit Memphis, because that Ramsey Too sculpture was amazing. 443 00:49:10.519 --> 00:49:15.960 But one of my questions to you, Mohammed, is when we see the 444 00:49:15.079 --> 00:49:21.360 face of that sculpture, which which Egyptologists say is Ramsey is the second it's 445 00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:25.960 the exact same face that we see. It looks are at the entrance and 446 00:49:27.159 --> 00:49:35.480 also a number of other in fact, even at Abu symbol. The faces 447 00:49:35.519 --> 00:49:39.960 are all unique, but they're they're almost like garden statues, you know, 448 00:49:40.079 --> 00:49:43.960 like something you would buy at the store. There's like it's a mold. 449 00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:49.920 They all look the same. How can Egyptologists say this is Ramsey's because Ramsey 450 00:49:49.960 --> 00:49:54.559 doesn't look like any of these sculptures. By the way, they if they 451 00:49:54.760 --> 00:49:59.039 hear you saying this, they will disagree. They will say no, these 452 00:49:59.280 --> 00:50:06.119 are uh these status. The faces are representing the face of Rams as a 453 00:50:06.199 --> 00:50:15.480 second but in idealistic style. Okay they this what they say is half correct, 454 00:50:15.679 --> 00:50:19.840 half runk. Okay, half runk, because when we say Rahms is 455 00:50:19.840 --> 00:50:23.199 a second half correct when they say idealistic case, this is the idealistic human. 456 00:50:23.719 --> 00:50:30.159 Yes, the realistic men. Yeah, ok and um. There is 457 00:50:30.519 --> 00:50:37.400 two statues for one king in looks of museums. The king is Tutmoses three, 458 00:50:38.360 --> 00:50:42.960 and the name is written very clear. This one Tutmoses three. This 459 00:50:43.119 --> 00:50:45.920 one Tutmoses three. But when you look to the face of this one is 460 00:50:45.960 --> 00:50:50.400 different from the face of the especially the news. The nose is very clear 461 00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:58.159 feature in the Moses status. They are not the same. So the one 462 00:50:58.679 --> 00:51:02.239 that announced so one, I know because the material is not very hard to 463 00:51:02.360 --> 00:51:08.159 carve. The other one is grand ury very hard. So the second one 464 00:51:08.320 --> 00:51:15.199 close to RUMs is a second phase okay. And it is before RUMs is 465 00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:19.519 a second so because sometime some people can still say maybe because it is after 466 00:51:19.679 --> 00:51:22.159 so it used to belong to Ramses and the king bought his name. It 467 00:51:22.679 --> 00:51:29.039 runs Tutmosis three before RUMs is a second So what in the case that that 468 00:51:29.760 --> 00:51:36.480 one of the Predeluvian statues and has the same type of features, that this 469 00:51:36.760 --> 00:51:44.599 is the perfect style or the perfect men, the perfect features of the men, 470 00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:49.000 and they did the same or women, not only for the face, 471 00:51:49.239 --> 00:51:55.039 but also the shoulders, the body, the height, the widths. Okay, 472 00:51:55.400 --> 00:52:01.519 so the Predeluvian civilizations were doing this systatius to show us the idea of 473 00:52:01.880 --> 00:52:07.199 the perfect man. It's amazing. I want you to talk real quickly about 474 00:52:07.480 --> 00:52:15.159 the Caffree statue that we saw at the Cairo Museum. That is gorgeous, 475 00:52:15.280 --> 00:52:17.559 but you made a very big statement. In fact, it impressed me enough 476 00:52:17.639 --> 00:52:23.440 that I wrote an article that appeared in Ancient Origins magazine based on your assumption. 477 00:52:24.119 --> 00:52:28.960 And I did what Chris Dunn did, which is mirror one side with 478 00:52:29.079 --> 00:52:34.719 the other and it's it's idea. It's exact. One side is the same 479 00:52:34.760 --> 00:52:37.320 as the other side, and the same thing with the shoulders, the chest, 480 00:52:37.400 --> 00:52:44.400 the arms defeat. It's a beautiful sculpture, but it's extremely hard rock 481 00:52:44.880 --> 00:52:51.400 granite. I think it's doright or something. Yeah, talk about this and 482 00:52:51.679 --> 00:52:57.519 one of the things that you say is that this is a representation by the 483 00:52:57.599 --> 00:53:06.920 Predeluvians of the ideal human male m exactly. This is statue bears the name 484 00:53:07.719 --> 00:53:13.639 half our care um. We know different types of direct, and the famous 485 00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:19.559 kind was used in ancient Egypt was called the direct mince. Okay, this 486 00:53:19.800 --> 00:53:29.000 direct we don't know the scientific name for it. We know it is direct, 487 00:53:29.119 --> 00:53:31.320 but it is like a very special type of direct. So you know 488 00:53:31.400 --> 00:53:37.440 what they call it. They call it direct, so they because it's unique 489 00:53:37.480 --> 00:53:44.000 for him exactly, and that a rare. It's so we don't see a 490 00:53:44.039 --> 00:53:49.000 lot of carvings with that stone. So what you're saying, we have three 491 00:53:49.159 --> 00:53:54.599 more okay, belong to the same roller or the same person who made this 492 00:53:54.800 --> 00:54:00.199 this is statues, but no more statues in the in the entire civilization didn't 493 00:54:01.119 --> 00:54:07.079 produce anything like this. So these four statues or five statues are unique, 494 00:54:07.280 --> 00:54:13.119 very special group. Okay. And as you mentioned, yes, the statue 495 00:54:14.840 --> 00:54:22.400 Chris dan in several times he mentioned was talking about the head of Rams's second 496 00:54:22.440 --> 00:54:27.400 statue at looks to temple that it is symmetrical. Now, this statue of 497 00:54:27.679 --> 00:54:32.679 Keefra, as you mentioned, es symmetrical from the top of the head till 498 00:54:34.239 --> 00:54:38.679 the toes. Okay, And what kind of a challenge you are talking about 499 00:54:38.760 --> 00:54:52.039 we are talking about curve parts checks the chin, the neck, and the 500 00:54:52.119 --> 00:54:55.880 shoulders. We are not talking about two D art. You can make it 501 00:54:57.000 --> 00:55:05.679 identically, okay. Now there are great chances for mistakes even if you are 502 00:55:05.800 --> 00:55:09.079 using power tools. By the way, if if we check and I did, 503 00:55:09.199 --> 00:55:15.119 that was some modern art fifty years ago and twenty years ago, and 504 00:55:15.280 --> 00:55:21.880 they were made by power tools. So the architect was using power tools and 505 00:55:22.119 --> 00:55:27.440 they are fabulous kind of art. But it is not symmetrical, okay. 506 00:55:28.440 --> 00:55:30.199 And I'm not sure he was trying to do it symmetrical or no, but 507 00:55:30.360 --> 00:55:36.239 it is not at all. It is very clear even with naked eyes. 508 00:55:36.960 --> 00:55:43.840 But if you use very good tools to do analysis to the distance between the 509 00:55:44.000 --> 00:55:47.039 left side and the right side all the way down, you will find that 510 00:55:49.280 --> 00:55:53.920 all the parts of the body are mirroring each other, the right arm, 511 00:55:54.360 --> 00:56:00.400 the left arm, the right shoulder, the left shoulder, the needs Okay. 512 00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:04.880 That plus, as as you mentioned, the hardness of the store, 513 00:56:06.119 --> 00:56:10.880 very hardest to not flexible like limestone or wood or entingles. And by the 514 00:56:10.960 --> 00:56:15.800 way, some of the details is what they call it difficult details, the 515 00:56:16.360 --> 00:56:23.760 tiny details like behind the ear, the ear itself from inside the details of 516 00:56:23.920 --> 00:56:34.719 the They showed the cuticle, not only the nails of yeah, okay, 517 00:56:34.840 --> 00:56:39.000 they show this, which is this is also again risky because it is a 518 00:56:39.159 --> 00:56:45.559 very tiny detail, so it can be broken if they use manual tool a 519 00:56:45.639 --> 00:56:49.119 hammer and a chisel can be broken. It means what it means that the 520 00:56:49.199 --> 00:56:53.800 whole statue now is useless because there will be a big mistake. But they 521 00:56:53.880 --> 00:56:59.159 did it because they had the proper tool. So yes, that statue is 522 00:56:59.199 --> 00:57:02.440 an icon in the Egyptian Museum. So let me ask you real quickly what 523 00:57:02.960 --> 00:57:09.519 the technology to cut like a cafre in these Ramseys sculptures. We don't know 524 00:57:09.679 --> 00:57:15.159 what it is, but it's something extremely sophisticated. It's so it's all it's 525 00:57:15.239 --> 00:57:22.679 otherworldly. It's so sophisticated because you can't cut this hard stone and represent and 526 00:57:23.119 --> 00:57:30.199 create a human looking statue without great precision, which is what Chris Dunn uses 527 00:57:30.239 --> 00:57:36.199 the terminology he uses a lot. So these people were very sophisticated, just 528 00:57:36.320 --> 00:57:42.039 beyond anything we can understand. Right, yes, exactly, Look as I 529 00:57:42.119 --> 00:57:46.880 say, and this is everybody must understand this fact. Sometimes you can have 530 00:57:49.519 --> 00:57:55.079 good technology and you can do great stuff. But as I say, if 531 00:57:55.239 --> 00:58:02.840 you do what I call it risky. Okay, Look, when you send 532 00:58:04.199 --> 00:58:09.000 a project or request to a good company, I want to do this, 533 00:58:10.119 --> 00:58:17.599 they must understand the chances of mistakes and risks. Okay. If it is 534 00:58:17.880 --> 00:58:22.159 low, to do it. If it is high, they don't agree to 535 00:58:22.239 --> 00:58:27.239 do it. So what I'm saying that doing these statues this is the highest 536 00:58:27.360 --> 00:58:35.679 level of risk because the chances of mistakes are very high. By accepting to 537 00:58:35.840 --> 00:58:40.119 do these requests, it means that the people who did this are not only 538 00:58:40.239 --> 00:58:46.400 expert, but also they are very very very high in technology, and their 539 00:58:46.480 --> 00:58:52.599 technology is very sophisticated. And it is not only about power tools, but 540 00:58:52.800 --> 00:58:57.639 it is also how to use the power. What kind of as or machines 541 00:58:57.960 --> 00:59:01.119 using these power tools? Yeah, that's amazing to my point, So, 542 00:59:01.320 --> 00:59:06.119 are not talking about a man was advanced tool in his hand. No, 543 00:59:06.519 --> 00:59:12.960 I'm talking about advancing advancing tool was being used by another robot or tool. 544 00:59:14.920 --> 00:59:19.559 Okay. Yeah, do we see anything like these sculptures anywhere else in the 545 00:59:19.639 --> 00:59:28.400 world. Have you seen anything that resembles a Ramsey's sculpture in say, China? 546 00:59:28.800 --> 00:59:31.320 I mean, I can't. I don't know of any other representation that 547 00:59:31.440 --> 00:59:37.800 are this sophisticated at all. I can tell you I visited the British Museum 548 00:59:37.840 --> 00:59:43.079 twice, okay. I saw some Greek work there, and we do have 549 00:59:43.199 --> 00:59:46.079 some in the Egyptian Museum, by the way, some statues from the Greek 550 00:59:46.679 --> 00:59:52.360 era in Asia and the Roman time very nice, very beautiful, but not 551 00:59:52.519 --> 00:59:58.920 symmetrical. The precision is not perfect, okay, and the material is not 552 00:59:59.159 --> 01:00:05.360 very tough like the material is marble, okay, So easily answered. There 553 01:00:05.480 --> 01:00:10.960 is nothing the same like these huge statues like crumps. Is the second statues 554 01:00:12.480 --> 01:00:16.719 in anywhere else tendable? Amazing. I want my listeners to know that this 555 01:00:16.960 --> 01:00:22.079 is a kind of a launch for our twenty twenty four tour. Many of 556 01:00:22.119 --> 01:00:29.840 the places that we will be visiting are included, and the tour next year 557 01:00:29.880 --> 01:00:35.400 twenty twenty four is April twenty eighth through May nine. For more information, 558 01:00:35.440 --> 01:00:38.840 you can go to Earth Ancients dot com forward Slash tours and get all the 559 01:00:38.960 --> 01:00:45.239 details. Mohammed and closing. One of the places we visit is the Mortuary 560 01:00:45.400 --> 01:00:51.920 Temple of Ramsey's. The Ramsey Um has a statue called the Statue of the 561 01:00:52.000 --> 01:00:59.880 Kneeling Man. It's estimated to weigh one thousand tons and when it was stay 562 01:01:00.000 --> 01:01:07.880 and it was sixty two feet It's a monster. M How in the hell 563 01:01:07.000 --> 01:01:10.599 did they cut that? And where is the Is that an as One quarry 564 01:01:10.840 --> 01:01:17.360 piece? Do we think this is still rose granite from as One? That's 565 01:01:17.559 --> 01:01:24.840 rose granite? Yes, okay, you just mentioned one of the biggest problems 566 01:01:25.360 --> 01:01:32.360 in our history. A huge statue. The almost I used to say, 567 01:01:32.440 --> 01:01:37.840 this is the biggest statue we have in from ancient Egypt. But later we 568 01:01:38.239 --> 01:01:46.760 found one foot broken from a huge statue. And when we did the measures 569 01:01:47.239 --> 01:01:52.159 of the of that foot, so the estimate weight of the statue when it 570 01:01:52.320 --> 01:01:59.480 was complete one point one one thousand and seven hundred tons. Oh my god, 571 01:02:00.320 --> 01:02:04.480 is almost twice bigger than the one in Ramuseum. What city was that 572 01:02:04.679 --> 01:02:09.119 foot found in? At the north east Egypt called the Tennis? Oh so 573 01:02:09.239 --> 01:02:13.159 it was so it was part of a temple that was there or something. 574 01:02:13.440 --> 01:02:17.280 Yes. The funny thing this area also is related to rams As a second, 575 01:02:20.880 --> 01:02:24.760 I mean, my whole feeling behind these real quickly, and they're not 576 01:02:24.760 --> 01:02:30.280 gonna let you go because I know your time is limited. The ego of 577 01:02:30.559 --> 01:02:37.039 Ramses and these other pharaohs to put their cartouche on an existing statue is just 578 01:02:37.320 --> 01:02:43.960 beyond comprehension. What the hell are they thinking? You know what, I 579 01:02:44.119 --> 01:02:46.960 have very interesting opinion about this. I think that not all of them were 580 01:02:47.079 --> 01:02:52.559 done by Ramses himself. I think many were done later because Ramses became an 581 01:02:52.800 --> 01:02:58.320 icon in the Egyptian history, and I think so many Egyptians, maybe way 582 01:02:58.400 --> 01:03:02.880 after Ramses. They are the one who put the name Ranches everywhere as a 583 01:03:04.000 --> 01:03:07.440 kind of owner, that this is the mighty Ranches, this is the great 584 01:03:07.519 --> 01:03:10.440 Ranches. So let's put his name to owner of the police. Yeah, 585 01:03:12.199 --> 01:03:16.519 but this would bring us to this big question, how dick. And by 586 01:03:16.559 --> 01:03:21.760 the way, when we say the size is almost one thousand town, we 587 01:03:21.880 --> 01:03:25.320 are talking about the size of the stone of the statue, not the original 588 01:03:25.440 --> 01:03:31.719 block. I think the original clock was like fifteen hundred oh of the huge 589 01:03:31.880 --> 01:03:37.119 neely man at the exactly because it was one day a big clock, right, 590 01:03:37.280 --> 01:03:45.320 So they had to cut and to carve the details of the body. 591 01:03:45.280 --> 01:03:53.880 Okay, so this will print again that the big story of how this is 592 01:03:53.920 --> 01:04:00.599 what they call it, how they decided which location to cut this giant piece, 593 01:04:00.400 --> 01:04:06.880 how they understood that it is very good area was high quality. How 594 01:04:08.000 --> 01:04:12.159 did they cut the stone, how did they transport the stone? How did 595 01:04:12.239 --> 01:04:18.679 they dealt with the Because the stone was put in a certain area above a 596 01:04:18.760 --> 01:04:23.880 piece, so it is not one piece. Of course, if it is 597 01:04:23.920 --> 01:04:26.719 one piece, it will be more problem. But in my opinion, it 598 01:04:26.880 --> 01:04:32.079 is extra work to put heavy object above a big distant and to make it 599 01:04:32.280 --> 01:04:40.320 perfect from the four sides. Kaya if you put it ronk was this great 600 01:04:40.519 --> 01:04:45.519 pressure? I think there is no way to move it or to push it 601 01:04:45.559 --> 01:04:53.679 to make it perfect unless they are using something to control gravity. They said, 602 01:04:53.719 --> 01:04:59.199 the only solution the same thing. I explain it about opelisks like the 603 01:04:59.280 --> 01:05:01.840 one we saw at Nctimberll and we see it all the time, seven hundred 604 01:05:01.880 --> 01:05:08.519 ton, one bees seven hundred ton. So also how they put this perfect 605 01:05:08.679 --> 01:05:13.480 on the base? The distance between the right side of the base and the 606 01:05:13.519 --> 01:05:16.559 opelisk in the same distance all the sites. Do you think there's some kind 607 01:05:16.599 --> 01:05:23.840 of energy at work here that's keeping it perfectly aligned and it's it's holding place. 608 01:05:24.960 --> 01:05:29.519 It must be we are talking. Yes, Egypt is not a famous 609 01:05:29.599 --> 01:05:33.239 place for earthquakes, but we had three major earthquakes in the last two thousand 610 01:05:33.320 --> 01:05:38.119 years. Nothing habits olus, not any opelis. By the way, we 611 01:05:38.280 --> 01:05:43.880 have win do we have kind of vibrations? Okay, so the opelisks are 612 01:05:44.039 --> 01:05:50.400 there standing in glory and as I say, fighting and facing all the kind 613 01:05:50.519 --> 01:05:59.039 of challenges. Amazing. My last question is, and this is not degrade 614 01:05:59.159 --> 01:06:05.480 in slap the Egyptological community hard, but when we look at the Cafre statue 615 01:06:05.639 --> 01:06:11.280 at the Caro Museum, beautiful world class, one of a kind statue, 616 01:06:12.079 --> 01:06:21.079 and we see this scratched cartouche of Cafrey on the bottom, why don't Egyptologists 617 01:06:21.119 --> 01:06:24.880 look at it and go, wait a minute, this was scratched in here 618 01:06:25.280 --> 01:06:30.000 years or centuries after this sculpture was carved. It has to be somebody out 619 01:06:30.079 --> 01:06:34.400 of their community. They're almost like I was told that's who it is, 620 01:06:34.559 --> 01:06:41.159 so I accept that, but it doesn't make any sense. You understand exactly, 621 01:06:41.320 --> 01:06:45.639 and this can be proven easily when you just see it. Okay, 622 01:06:45.719 --> 01:06:50.199 I don't need to give you a lecture to prove it. Now take you 623 01:06:50.400 --> 01:06:57.239 there. You sense the beauty of the statue, you see the precision, 624 01:06:57.320 --> 01:07:00.880 and then you look to the name. You will immediately understand that we are 625 01:07:00.960 --> 01:07:05.679 talking about two different hands to different tools. Okay, to different knowledge, 626 01:07:06.360 --> 01:07:10.880 and that the case of so many other pieces. By the way, this 627 01:07:11.119 --> 01:07:14.960 is not the only case. We have hand brids, maybe thousands of cases 628 01:07:15.039 --> 01:07:18.880 like this, very high quality object, very poor quality of the name. 629 01:07:19.719 --> 01:07:24.559 But I don't know why they don't pay attention to this, okay, because 630 01:07:24.599 --> 01:07:29.119 that is very obvious that the one who both both the name is not the 631 01:07:29.239 --> 01:07:32.480 same one who made the object. They're just not I mean, it's almost 632 01:07:32.559 --> 01:07:40.880 common sense that there's a high quality statue and then somebody like Rams he puts 633 01:07:40.960 --> 01:07:45.880 his name on it after the fact, and this is what I write. 634 01:07:45.320 --> 01:07:50.760 I think that one of his priests are caffres priests or administrators were like, 635 01:07:50.880 --> 01:07:56.920 you know, this kind of looks like you put your name on there. 636 01:07:59.320 --> 01:08:03.920 Yeah. Yes. By the way, the old Kingdom is causing big problem 637 01:08:04.239 --> 01:08:10.119 because if RUMs is a second pot his name on a statue during the new 638 01:08:10.239 --> 01:08:15.560 Kingdom time, we can easily say, if we are like the ministream academics, 639 01:08:15.640 --> 01:08:20.600 we could say maybe that is an old kingdom statue was made, because 640 01:08:20.760 --> 01:08:27.760 all the kingdom should also some high technology. But if the statue is holding 641 01:08:27.880 --> 01:08:32.319 a name of forced dynasty or an old kingdom ruler and it is not him, 642 01:08:32.920 --> 01:08:35.960 They don't want to say this because who did it. It must be 643 01:08:36.079 --> 01:08:44.560 someone before Sir, the dynasty, second dynasty or pre dynastic primitive civilization, 644 01:08:44.760 --> 01:08:48.520 which is impossible, Yeah, because they cannot produce something like this. So 645 01:08:49.079 --> 01:08:57.840 by just accepting that this name is drown this will change the history of Egypt 646 01:08:58.079 --> 01:09:05.439 and will take us fought away to the stories of the Brie Euluvian civilizations. 647 01:09:05.880 --> 01:09:10.359 They don't want to even go there. They don't want to even consider an 648 01:09:10.439 --> 01:09:15.880 early civilization. It's just too much. Mohammed, wonderful to have you. 649 01:09:16.000 --> 01:09:21.239 For those of you listening. Mohammed Embriam is our host for the fifth annual 650 01:09:21.880 --> 01:09:29.159 Earth Ancients Grant Egyptian Tour April twenty eight, May ninth. For more information, 651 01:09:29.439 --> 01:09:33.279 go to Earth Ancients dot com forward slash Tours. You'll see the banner 652 01:09:33.720 --> 01:09:40.479 get your registration in. By the way, if you get your registration in 653 01:09:40.680 --> 01:09:44.560 in the next sixty days, we'll give you a discount on the cost. 654 01:09:44.680 --> 01:09:47.319 And this is what we do every year, kind of as an incentive. 655 01:09:47.399 --> 01:09:53.079 But I have to let you know, this tour fills up fast and it 656 01:09:53.399 --> 01:09:56.520 is one of the best tours I've done. We've been doing it now for 657 01:09:56.840 --> 01:10:01.079 this is our fifth year. It is amazing, So Mohammed, thank you 658 01:10:01.199 --> 01:10:10.000 for joining me. What should the person interested in visiting with you on your 659 01:10:10.079 --> 01:10:17.760 tour expect. They must expect first, very high quality and I love you 660 01:10:17.960 --> 01:10:27.079 when you say diplomatic treatment. Diplomatic tour. It is a diplomatic tour because 661 01:10:27.119 --> 01:10:30.960 you're treated like a diplomat from the minute you step off in the Cairo all 662 01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:34.039 the way to the end of the tour. It's wonderful. Number two, 663 01:10:34.119 --> 01:10:43.119 they must expect a very good way explaining the history of ancient Egypt, logical 664 01:10:43.239 --> 01:10:46.880 way, so much information, not only about history, about about art, 665 01:10:46.960 --> 01:10:56.960 about geology, ancient geology, about astronomy, about We will talk about ancient 666 01:10:57.079 --> 01:11:02.159 Egypt from so many perspectives, and that will give a very good knowledge to 667 01:11:02.479 --> 01:11:08.800 our tour participants. Okay, one last thing for those of you listening Mohammed's 668 01:11:08.880 --> 01:11:13.039 book. I guess he's coming out in this fall Egypt before Written History, 669 01:11:14.000 --> 01:11:18.079 and maybe we'll be able to give portions of that out during the tour. 670 01:11:18.239 --> 01:11:24.079 But I'm gonna have Mohammed on the show again this fall to discuss it. 671 01:11:24.239 --> 01:11:29.960 So Mohammed, thank you for your time. Wonderful seeing you and wow, 672 01:11:30.119 --> 01:11:35.239 so much to look forward to next year on our annual tour. Thanks du 673 01:11:35.359 --> 01:11:44.960 Cliff, it was always a pleasure to be a speaker on ancient and answering 674 01:11:45.680 --> 01:11:55.159 good hard questions. All right, take care of my friend. It's obvious 675 01:11:55.319 --> 01:11:59.319 that a number of these places that we talked about, a number of the 676 01:11:59.520 --> 01:12:04.319 sculptures that we are highlighting in this interview you couldn't see. This is why 677 01:12:04.920 --> 01:12:13.560 I am placing fairly large galleries on both the Facebook pages, the international and 678 01:12:14.000 --> 01:12:19.600 the group page. And these are up close and personal. There's a few 679 01:12:19.720 --> 01:12:28.239 from my own librarian of images, a few from Mohammed's. These are, 680 01:12:29.720 --> 01:12:34.760 without a doubt, the most impressive sculptures I've ever seen. I don't think 681 01:12:34.840 --> 01:12:39.640 anywhere, and I asked this of Mohammed. I don't think there's any place 682 01:12:39.720 --> 01:12:45.640 in the world quite like Egyptian monolithic sculptures. And you know, some of 683 01:12:45.680 --> 01:12:49.760 them are so big you have to wonder what was the method of getting them 684 01:12:50.000 --> 01:12:56.720 within the mechanism that cut and shaped and polished them. I was just thinking 685 01:12:56.840 --> 01:13:03.640 today I was looking at some photos of the the apple symbol monstrosities, you 686 01:13:03.680 --> 01:13:10.359 know, I mean, they're ninety eight almost one hundred feet tall by one 687 01:13:10.439 --> 01:13:15.279 hundred and fifteen feet wide, and when you do a close up of their 688 01:13:15.880 --> 01:13:19.119 faces, they're they're quite unique. Of these. There's four, excuse me, 689 01:13:19.199 --> 01:13:27.039 there's three, and one sculpture is damaged. The head just below the 690 01:13:27.119 --> 01:13:31.560 shoulders is broken off and lands in front of the feet. But when you 691 01:13:31.640 --> 01:13:34.880 look at some of the early photographs, and I've posted these, like from 692 01:13:34.920 --> 01:13:42.520 the late eighteen hundreds, and the photographers up on a sand dune that's equal 693 01:13:42.600 --> 01:13:48.119 to the eye level of these colossus, it's amazing. First of all, 694 01:13:48.520 --> 01:13:53.159 how they carved him. It just doesn't make any sense that these were carved 695 01:13:53.199 --> 01:14:00.840 by anyone from any dynastic period. They're mechanically perfect, mechanically perfect. Another 696 01:14:01.000 --> 01:14:06.640 thing that I've observed is that anything that has been attributed to Ramsey's the Second 697 01:14:08.479 --> 01:14:13.520 looks the same. It's all like garden variety sculpture that you get at a 698 01:14:13.600 --> 01:14:17.399 garden supply store to put out in your garden. They are they all look 699 01:14:17.479 --> 01:14:25.000 the same, the same, pug nose, pouty lips, straightforward vision from 700 01:14:25.039 --> 01:14:31.000 the eyes, the round face, very oval rounded faces, and their hands 701 01:14:31.119 --> 01:14:38.439 and arms are laying on their lap, and they're all the same. Whether 702 01:14:38.520 --> 01:14:46.680 it be in look Sore or Carnac or Memphis anywhere. And this guy, 703 01:14:47.399 --> 01:14:53.199 when we talk about the Pharaohs, this guy had a monstrosity of an ego 704 01:14:54.119 --> 01:14:59.319 because his cartoon shappeers everywhere. One of the and we talked about this earlier 705 01:14:59.399 --> 01:15:04.800 in the interview, how Keefrin's statue in the museum at Cairo has this very 706 01:15:04.920 --> 01:15:11.399 crudely scratched cartouche that someone put on there, and all of a sudden this 707 01:15:11.600 --> 01:15:17.159 is attributed to Caffrey. Well, the same thing can be said for the 708 01:15:17.840 --> 01:15:25.560 Ramsey two sculpture in Memphis. In this outdoor museum, the cartouche that's been 709 01:15:25.640 --> 01:15:32.359 placed on his wrists and on his shoulder are very cruelly cut into his body, 710 01:15:33.359 --> 01:15:36.600 almost like it's an afterthought. Someone took a chisel and just cut this 711 01:15:38.039 --> 01:15:45.319 cartouche in there. Why they did this, and also why Egyptologists don't see 712 01:15:45.399 --> 01:15:51.239 this massive alteration of these sculptures is really beyond me. It's one of those 713 01:15:51.279 --> 01:15:57.279 things where they just don't care. And again Mohammed put it quite succinctly when 714 01:15:57.319 --> 01:16:00.960 he says, if they begin looking into these histories, they're gonna have to 715 01:16:00.039 --> 01:16:04.640 write rewrite history. So yeah, really, fascinating. Okay, so I'm 716 01:16:04.680 --> 01:16:10.000 gonna be placing these galleries. Please take a look at the galleries. If 717 01:16:10.039 --> 01:16:15.920 you're not a fan of Facebook, go to Earth Ancients dot com and look 718 01:16:15.000 --> 01:16:21.640 for the link on the menu Facebook feed. Again, this is a quite 719 01:16:21.680 --> 01:16:29.319 an i would say, impressive gallery of monolithic sculptures from different angles, a 720 01:16:29.399 --> 01:16:32.319 lot of really nice close ups. And see what you think, you know, 721 01:16:32.640 --> 01:16:35.800 see what you think. Now, when we have Chris doun on again, 722 01:16:36.840 --> 01:16:42.159 probably I think it's gonna be early January twenty twenty four, that's when 723 01:16:42.199 --> 01:16:45.880 his new book comes out. I'm going to spend a bit more time asking 724 01:16:46.039 --> 01:16:54.119 him about the cutting techniques that he believes were used in the Ramsey sculptures that 725 01:16:54.199 --> 01:17:00.760 he outlines his major focuses in Luksar, which is dominated by Ramsey sculptures in 726 01:17:01.439 --> 01:17:08.479 at the entrance of the Luxor Temple and also on the interior. So well, 727 01:17:08.560 --> 01:17:11.840 here directly from him, I want to get his opinion because it's been 728 01:17:11.840 --> 01:17:14.279 a couple of years now since we've had him on the program, and I 729 01:17:14.439 --> 01:17:19.399 think he is take may have evolved since we spoke to him, So look 730 01:17:19.479 --> 01:17:25.880 forward to that again. This is also the launch of our twenty twenty four 731 01:17:26.039 --> 01:17:31.520 Grand Egyptian Tour scheduled for April twenty eight through May the ninth. If you 732 01:17:31.800 --> 01:17:42.119 want the discount, use the code get Grand Egyptian Tour Get twenty twenty four. 733 01:17:42.439 --> 01:17:46.279 Put that down on the registration page. To register. To see the 734 01:17:46.399 --> 01:17:54.359 current itinerary, go to Earth Ancients dot com Forward Slash Tours. We got 735 01:17:54.439 --> 01:18:00.920 everything there. I am going to tweak it tenorary a little bit it but 736 01:18:00.079 --> 01:18:05.199 for the most part it's been extremely impressive and always a pleasure to travel. 737 01:18:05.279 --> 01:18:12.800 And remember we travel first class VIP or as Muhammad and I like to joke, 738 01:18:13.319 --> 01:18:16.199 it's a diplomatic tour, so from the start to the finish you are 739 01:18:16.319 --> 01:18:24.399 treated like a diplomat of your city, state or country. And it's really 740 01:18:24.439 --> 01:18:29.399 a fun tour. It's very, very relaxing, and probably the most important 741 01:18:30.119 --> 01:18:34.199 aspect, really really important, is that our price is about fifty percent less 742 01:18:34.880 --> 01:18:42.640 than the average tour for twelve days to Egypt. Our competitors in the Alternative 743 01:18:43.039 --> 01:18:51.000 Sciences Alternative theories genre are typically charging around ten thousand US for this tour. 744 01:18:51.199 --> 01:18:59.560 Our tour prices about five and if you if you join somebody, if you're 745 01:18:59.600 --> 01:19:02.199 a cup full or you don't mind sharing a room, you can get in 746 01:19:02.359 --> 01:19:09.560 for about forty two hundred and then use the code of get twenty twenty four. 747 01:19:10.039 --> 01:19:13.039 That's two hundred bucks off, So do the math. All you gotta 748 01:19:13.039 --> 01:19:15.159 do is get over there and everything else is covered all right. For more 749 01:19:15.199 --> 01:19:20.960 information or Ancients dot com forward slash tours, look for the banner, click 750 01:19:21.079 --> 01:19:26.520 on it, and remember we're a third full already. We're only going to 751 01:19:26.600 --> 01:19:30.359 take thirty people at the most. I don't want to take more than that. 752 01:19:30.640 --> 01:19:33.279 We've never had more than I think a lot of the biggest group we 753 01:19:33.359 --> 01:19:40.039 had was thirty five, So thirty thirty five max. Don't delay. Get 754 01:19:40.119 --> 01:19:46.239 your registration in there, and I'm constantly updating the information. Muhammad will be 755 01:19:46.399 --> 01:19:53.760 on again in the fall. I'm guessing October to talk about his new book, 756 01:19:54.000 --> 01:20:00.479 and we'll also do a highlight on any updates. We have added the 757 01:20:00.680 --> 01:20:06.640 itinerary for the Earth Ancients Grand Egyptian Tour April twenty eighth, May ninth. 758 01:20:09.439 --> 01:20:13.479 Oh and if you have any questions whatsoever, send me an email. Send 759 01:20:13.520 --> 01:20:18.800 it to Earth Ancients dot com for you the letter the number four the letter 760 01:20:18.920 --> 01:20:25.720 you at gmail dot com and I'll get back to you pretty quick. Okay, 761 01:20:26.000 --> 01:20:28.319 that's it for this program. I want to thank my guest today, 762 01:20:28.600 --> 01:20:32.520 Muhammad Imbriam. He was coming to us from Cairo. As always the team 763 01:20:32.560 --> 01:20:39.000 of Ruth Thomas, Mark Foster, and Chris Hazel. You guys rock and 764 01:20:39.119 --> 01:20:42.840 I really appreciate your help. All right, take care of me well, 765 01:20:43.680 --> 01:20:45.720 enjoy your summer, and we'll talk to you next time.