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is a mini edition of our super wild Card Pump Session. Yeah, we're
getting whipped up trying to peak on Sunday. I have a question y and
Kevin, you may not be a good person, asked this too. I
think Danny will be the sense too much confidence, like because I'm confident.
Maybe I'm just saying what I because I think they're gonna win. The Cowboys
are gonna win. I think they're gonna win by you know, ten double
digits, like I. I don't know though, Like then I think the
other side like it, no one is to be taken lightly. This team's
not good enough to take anyone lightly. I just feel like there's a big
because right when the seating and everything came out, you're like, all right,
Packers, and then you know who's gonna be either Bucks or Eagles or
Lions, Okay, okay, And then at Samforce, I don't know.
You can't help it's human nature. I guess to lay out the path that
lies ahead, but I feel like not that that really affects what's gonna happen
on the field Sunday. But I just feel like confidence is a little guy,
and maybe it should be. I don't think they're gonna overlook them.
I don't think they're gonna be over confident. I think the way they played
against Washington was kind of a good testimony towards that, where on the other
side you had the Eagles, yeah, playing a garbage team and the Giants
and absolutely gets smeared. Yeah, Dallas, Dallas could have overlooked the commander's
right, I love Yeah, But that's a commander's team that is almost kind
of tanking as some members are trying to lose, coaches getting fired the next
day, no matter what, the biggest must lose in Commander's history. But
that game, like that game could have gone a different way early on,
and then you know how it is when the Cowboys are playing from behind,
it could have taken on an entirely I mean we were texting about that.
It's like things are weird in DC. Yeah, and weird things were happening,
miss field goals, blockfield goals, crazy wild plays that that Washington was
running. That game could have taken an entirely different shape had there not been
And I don't know who the steady handed or if it's a collective steady hand,
but the steady hand was like, let them do their trick plays,
let them do what they need to do. Sure Aubrey missed a couple of
field goals, We're fine, just do what we do, stay in our
lane. And they did, whereas Philly just said doodo on everything. Yeah,
I feel I don't know, I feel a steady hand that there is
coming for whether it's McCarthy or Dak or a collective of veterans and coaches,
there's something different about this team I don't feel like there's an overconfidence. It's
the confidence that you were talking about there. Mind. Yeah, yeah,
it's but it's both sides because he's right. Yeah, but you don't want
to talk about steady hand. Matt Lafleur. I think, and you tell
me if I'm wrong, But that dude, I mean, granted, you
have Aaron Rodgers, you win thirteen games every year, you have the MVP,
but then you have your dip, you lose your guy. It's sort
of reset time. And the worst thing they did was last year missed the
playoffs at eight and nine, and now nine and eight. I mean,
they're gonna be ready. They're going to be ready, and they're still going
to do the things that they've done all year, or make a few mistakes
and things like that because they are the youngest roster in football on the offense
and defense, so they are you know, that's something that opens up agate
too. Yeah, there's gonna be mistakes and will the moment be too big
for them? The Cowboys being at home clearly huge here. But there's two
things that just I kind of been thinking about the whole time. The type
of offense that they run, and it is the same thing that you're gonna
see with Shanahan and McVeigh with the Rams motion based a lot of play action.
Are they gonna run it or pass it on first down? Are you
gonna be able to stop the run? And things like that, and a
ton of wide receivers who can go get open. And it's really the confidence
that Jordan Love has had that has just increased. I've never seen someone outside
maybe Aaron Rodgers fifteen years ago, improved from one month to the next and
just like, Okay, yeah, dude. In October I was going,
I don't know. In November, I was like, yeah, it's pretty
good. And then by the end of December, Yeah, quarterback. You
gonna have to pay him soon too. He's making a way more money than
probably should make based on what he's proven in the NFL. Like they're gonna
know, and I think there's something to just the way they're going. They're
pretty steady too, so that and I do sense a little bit of that
because I can't get out of my head a game last year where the Cowboys
were better than the Packers and the game wasn't Lambeau and the Cowboys had the
Packers and they couldn't finish them off, and Christian Watson ended up showing up.
Now, look, there's a lot of things that Aaron Rodgers played in
that game. Right, There's a lot of big, different, you know,
elements to that game. There's a little weird mojo with the Packers,
and I'm not saying that as Packers fans there should always be recent one of
them history, especially against the Cowboys. Like that's why I'm not real sure
why people kind of wanted them. And maybe you think the Rams are better.
The Packers beat the Rams twenty to three this year. There was no
Cooper Cup in that game. Does the Packers stomped the Rams earlier in the
year, So I don't know that the Rams just that much better than the
Packers. That's what kind of people were kind of scared to play the Rams.
By the way, the Rams the only team who could beat the forty
nine ers in the in this conference. So there's a lot of things.
Like Danny said, weird things happened in Washington, Weird things happen when Cowboys
play the Packers, and most of that is attributed to their quarterbacks that they've
had throughout time have always been amazing in their stadium. Worry about that.
Yeah, you know, FARV never really conquered the Beast, No Rogers did.
We're gonna talk tomorrow about some classic Packer Cowboy duels in history, many
of which did not go our team's way. But I did yesterday watch that
damn Aaron Rodgers to cook throw. They cost the Cowboys what a trip to
the NFC Championship Game a few years ago. And it might be the best
throw in NFL history. It's the mist throw and did be the single best
throw Roethlisberger to Santonio Holmes, and the Super Bowl is on that list,
But that was I think from the six yard line. They snapped that ball
when he released it, there was nine seconds left on the clock and he
just wings it right and the Cowboys sidelines like, yeah, incomplete. And
I remember watching it live thinking nope, nope, no way, And usually
I watched enough football. I'm decent enough to you know, I don't know
what your hit percentage is, but I'm like, no way, that's a
catch. And the first replay we all see the heart beats of everyone in
this sound. We all knew at the exact same moment. Of course,
it's a catch his feet are perfect. It's one of the greatest throws in
history. And then one play later, fifty one yard field goal. See
you yeah, Oh that is opening your chest and ripping your heart out,
showing it to you and eating it in front of your face while it's still
beating, while it still has its final couple beats in it. The play
before it, Jeff Heath blindside sacks Rogers and he holds onto the ball.
Yes, I watched that as well. Blindside crushes him from the backside.
And if Jeff Heath's hand is down one or two inch, which is obviously,
I'm not saying it should have been. It's just one of those things.
That ball is still bouncing. How do you get hit that hard and
that much leverage and the ball didn't even move. You could argue dak out
played Aaron Rodgers in that game. Also, do you watch the game?
What lost that game for the Cowboys is their offensive drive where they spiked the
ball when they had a time out and left. We'll just tomorrow. Yeah,
it's audio for it. It's fun great, Okay, I don't know
if you call us fun audio. Here's Aaron Rodgers on the pat McAfee show
yesterday, Kimmell said, look, you can you know he went out and
dissed him, told some jokes and then said it a hamster brain, didn't
he Yeah, call them a hamster brain. It's pretty funny, and then
basically said, look, I would apologize, So we'll just apologize and it's
over. Not that Kimmel's in charge here Rogers on the mcaffee show yesterday.
Keep in mind McAfee kim Will worked for the same company. A lot going
on Aron Rodgers. Tuesday's have certainly caused some conversation, Yes, yes,
conversation, controversy, debate, a lot of interesting things that come from this
show. Well, a lot of people that love the show, a lot
of people that love the show, a lot of peopeople that want to censor
the show. Who at least my segment, I've heard a lot heard.
I've heard a lot about that. There's beard a lot of articles about calling
me. Okay, So he immediately starts to do a lot of people and
he goes right into people want to center the show. You're going to start
rolling your eyes, Aaron Rodgers, I think in the first ten seconds,
I think we should just get into it though, just so we can have
the woke establishment who's just tuned in for you know this this part. Let's
just get this out of the way first and they can move on with the
rest of the day. I have one thing to say, but people,
if people are going to use the word woke a lot, I just want
to say this, especially a guy like Aaron Rodgers who claims he's up to
date and researched on everything that would be the definition of being woke, Your
dumb ass, Why is he so effing stupid? And it bothers me.
I used to wear Aaron Rodgers shirts Packers his line of clothing, but now
there's Rogers on the back, you know, and I'm like, whoa is
what you claim to be about all this medical stuff? And he did a
ten minute thing on the horse pill on ESPN Live and we can all move
past this. The history of this, whatever this is between Jimmy and I,
this goes back to COVID times. He mentioned on his show jokes about
my amusation, which I know you also made a little joke about it,
and the fact that you know my own research. He didn't just stop there,
though, you know, he made a lot of other comments about unvaccinated
people, mentioning that they don't deserve treatment. If they're at a hospital,
they shouldn't be given a hospital bed. He made comments about repurposed drugs that
were being used all over the world that have incredible safety profiles that were derogatory.
He meant ivermectin being horse face and pushed that whole narrative for a long
time. He gave a platform to one of the biggest spreaders of misinformation during
the COVID times, doctor Fauci. So in my opinion, you know,
he ripped me about ripped me about the vax and that turns out to be
an l on many occasions because the vax was not safe and effective like we
were told that it was in the beginning. There are a lot of injuries
now that we've seen related to the vaccine. So in my opinion, okay,
so no one cares. Right, He's going in all this stuff and
it's like, dude, just talk about the thing. This is kind of
him summing it all up right here. I'd like to put this to bed
to move forward. I don't understand, but I don't understand Mike foss comment.
Mike Foss is the senior vice president of Programming at ESPN. Okay Foss
comment because he didn't help out either, and I'm going to quote Mike Foss.
He said, Aaron made a dumb and factually incorrect joke about Jimmy Kimmel.
It should never have happened. We all realized that in the moment,
Mike, you're not helping. You're not helping because I just read earlier exactly
what I said. So and this is this is the game plan of the
media, and this is what they do. They try and cancel, you
know, and it's not just me, it's it's nowhere near just me.
I mean, if you look at all the different people who've been censored from
the Internet during especially during COVID, the canceling that went on, the censorship
using the government to try and censor people, that happened. And if that
doesn't work, then they go to name calling. I mentioned a lot of
the names that I've been called, and they don't stick. Because I'm an
anti vax I'm interested in informed consent and things that are in the vestments of
my body. I'm not a maga. I've never had any of what's a
maga that's in Tomato tomorrow. I'm not a MAGA. I've never had any
affiliation with anybody associated with that movement, right, which is okay if you
are, though, like there's different opinions all over the place. If you're
that's your ideology, that's fine. I'm not a super political person, Okay,
do whatever you want. Uh, conspiracy theorists, that's fine because if
you look at the track record of conspiracy theorists in the last few years,
they've been right about a lot of things. So I don't care about that
one anti semi that was called I mean, that's just like, this is
their game plan. They use these words to cancel people, and they went
and ran with this because it's the crazy anti vaxxer wacko again talking about you
know, accusing somebody of being a pedophile. Like, of course, this
is the game plan they use. That's that's the environment that we're in in
the end. If you are not someone whose opinion aligned with the mainstream narrative,
this is what they're gonna do with you. And it's not me.
I'm not a victim. I don't give it. Say whatever the hell you
want about me, that's fine. Like the people that know me and loved
me. You know what I'm all about. My teammates know what I'm all
about. In the end, some up. Listen, I still haven't popped
a bottle because there hasn't been any list that's come out, and I'm Isaiah's
kept gone right through it so exhausting, exhausting. He is he is,
He is exhausting, and I almost think of him as a former player,
and now almost forgot that he plays for the Jets. The headline that came
from that thing or stays. He said he wanted to play for two or
three more ears with the Jets, but he also made comments about how the
Jets had too much drama, and I'm like, you are the one stirring
up everything. I haven't heard anything out of the Jets organization that I would
consider remotely linked to drama that did not have to do with him. I
agree, But this is where Pat had to come in. You about to
play it, No, go ahead, go ahead and play it. And
then I want to talk about something that we discussed yesterday when we first heard
about Jimmy's response to what Aeron' said. You want to play the pat though,
have two things off. One is Pat comes in, he's got to
tell the company line a little bit. And it's funny because last week he's
yelling at another ESPN executive that they're sabotaging his show. I think it was
Norby the Snake Williamson who he was calling out. Now and this Aaron's calling
on ESPN executive Mike Foss or whatever. It's funny because Pat's got this money
on the line, but he knows he could probably just go do his own
thing like he was doing and make this not the same amount of money,
but he could make a lot of money and be fine. So it's like,
I don't know if he's trying to get fired or not, but here
he's trying to clearly get back into the company line. In fact, Aaron
dropped an s bom a minute ago. He dropped an f bum at one
point, and you're gonna hear Pat go two. That's two. They're kind
of like, oh, you know it was no At what? At what
point is Aaron Rodgers going to feel canceled by McAfee. Yeah, right,
when McAfee says, you're just too You know what, I've got a career
here. Whatever people think of me. I've got to keep this thing going,
and having you on is compromising that it's not helping my show. You're
gonna get me fired, dude, So no more a Rod appearances on the
McAfee show. And then what's Aaron gonna do his little butt buddy Pat,
He's gonna start ripping him. No, No, I don't know what's gonna
happen there, Bill. There's a part I'll play for you later in the
show, probably where one of his buddies I think they call him the con
man, asked Aaron and ted him. No, it was a j Hawk.
It was aj Hawk on the zoom doing nothing. But I'll let him
talk. Then I'm talking and he basically so again, what you not like
about the Mike Foss's comment, almost as if Eron had like told him to
do it. I don't know. It was insinuated though, that you called
him a pedophile by everybody quickly, like Jimmy Kimmel has been called a pedophile,
I think by a lot of people because his name has been on one
of those lists on the Internet for a long time. So I think you
stoking the flame a little bit there made the entire world continue to turn up
on him. I think that's why he got so bummed up, you know,
and that sucks. And I condemned that one hundred percent, Like that's
ridiculous, Like any type of name calling us ridiculous. And I'm not calling
him one, and neither should do you. So it's not backing me up
or making me feel good. If you're doing that, let me make that
crystal clear. I don't take any you know, excitement for joy out of
anything that give, so don't do that in my name. Don't do that
at all. Like those are serious accusations meant for people who are on the
list. And this corruption goes deep, I believe, and most people that
probably looked at it believe that it goes deep. And I have no love
for anybody doing anything. All Right, thank you for clearing it up.
And Jimmy hey man, pump that you're not on that list. Yeah,
pumped about it because obviously we've all been Jimmy Kimmel fans since way back,
way back, team on three one two three ja Okay, all right,
okay, this is what it so. Yesterday we were talking about this,
we were kind of breaking down, Aaron making a joke saying, you know,
hopefully you know, lookout Kimmel or whatever the quote was when he was,
you know, saying that this, this list is about to come out
of people of note that were involved with Epstein on the plane at the island
in some connection. Whatever he threw in Jimmy Kimmel's name just kind of as
a joke, just as a jab the further thought that I give to that,
it is incredibly irresponsible when you consider, like Mikey you were saying the
other day, the guy that's in his mom's basement that hears this and puts
Jimmy Kimmel on the list of targets, potential targets. It is incredibly irresponsible
because nowhere has there been any credible speculation that Jimmy Kimmel ever even knew this
guy. For you to throw his name in there is terrible. Number Two.
Pat McAfee, you're pumped that Jimmy Kimmel's not on the list, Like
the world is just waiting for the you know, because there's been legitimate speculation
that Jimmy Kimmel was somehow involved with this guy and we're just waiting. He's
like, oh, thank god, Jimmy's not on the list. That's like
me calling Mikey after the Morning News two days prior reports that there's somebody loose
for the rape and murder of a high school girl, and I go on
the air two days later after the real assailant has been and I go,
I just want to say, Mikey, I am so pumped that that that
that was not girl. I'm so pumped. That's so Even McAfee's addressing this
is irresponsible because it frames it in a way that people that don't actually pay
attention that get their news from, you know, satellite, little Instagram pages,
that they're looking at this going he's probably on it, but government's covering
it up. You know what I'm saying. It's yeah, I think kim
reacted with the tweet, though I thought Kimball didn't have to do that.
But also I'm not the one who is called the pedophile. Kimmel was,
and Kimmell is probably a big believer like most people are. In separation of
a comedy job and doing an interview on a sports show, I guess,
but it was clear that that was a throwaway joke. Inappropriate or not,
it was a throwaway joke and probably should have just been thrown away, but
Kimmell was actually dealing with stuff and he might have been. The difference here
too, though, is if there are people like that, are there people
on here? Let's be real with it here. People who are right wing
do not like Jimmy Kimmel, but he's taking shots at them, and that's
you know, that's the game. Some comedians do that, right, He's
taking shots of them, so they don't like him. So and Aaron's like
going to play it down the middle and not you know, associate with any
side or whatever. Now there's another part here where Rogers is last one,
and we'll just discard this forever and we'll never do it again. Even if
there's more to it, we'll probably just skip it. Sweet takes a shot
at an ESPN executive, and I think a J Hawk teasing him up here.
But McAfee wants this to stop. Clearly yople actually watched the clip,
and how many how many people just saw a headline. I don't think Mike
Foss watched the clip. I don't work for you. Mike. Did you
not like Aaron? Which part of it did you not enjoy? It's made
it dumb and factually incorrect. Joke. You thought it was a pretty smart,
good one. I mean, I feel like I made a statement about,
you know, not wanting to be on a you know, the list
to come out. But it was a call back, never call back to
February. I realized that in the moment, what did you what are you
talking about? Let's move on, man, exciting for you to meet Foss
and person somebody Foss right now is sitting on an airplane watching this. Just
Oh yeah, I'm happy for moving on. Let's talk about Foss. Is
the guy who got McAfee on ESPN and Rogers. Maybe he's taking shots at
him, Maybe he's the guy that can take him off. Part of me
wonders if some of this is calculated. McAfee's trying to get fired too well.
Isn't this because you didn't? You wonder how if this is good or
not for McAfee. I mean, we're talking about him. He is.
We talked about it every day again in the news, you know, And
what other appointment do you have on the Pat McAfee show that you are curious
to hear about. I looked it up yesterday afternoon. I'm like, oh
yeah, Rogers did his thing. I want to check it out. I
mean, that's sort of the bottom line for entertainment. And on that note,
do you think that before kickoff of next season in the NFL, Aaron
Rodgers will be a guest on the Jimmy Kimmel Show. No, I absolutely
don't. I don't think so. I don't think Jimmy would. I think
Jimmy's done. I think, but I don't know. Do you think Jimmy
is that I don't know, is that it lacks that much dignity. Rogers
to use this whole thing to rating and the guys of clearing the air,
that's a pure stunt. If he does that, it is a pure stunt.
Rogers late night talk I mean that's Rogers said, it's great your airson,
because he made fun of his education too, because he had made shots
him. He's like, it's great that you have ten writers and can read
a teleprompter. I'm like, Aaron Rodgers, you could not do his job.
And if anyone know, if you think you know how a late night
talk show works and don't, you just don't. There's so much more craft
that goes into it than you could ever imagine. To go to an hour
of TV it blow your f and mind, so like I got, I
got problems with that as Aaron's a dumbass? Did we know this now?
But I don't even care about the stuff he's talking about. For or against
the things he says, he contradicts himself. And then when he runs out
of guests, Oh we'll talk about you more. Let's get out of here.
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