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doing great, Jesse. Yeah,
it's it's gonna be a fun team to

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talk about there. They got a
lot going on and I'm really excited to

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break this team down. How are
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And of course the Stanley Cup playoffs
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going to say who's playing who or
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Welcome to the show, Davis Birdstain of

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the fourth period. Ready to talk
a little bit at La Kings. How

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are you doing today, Dennis doing
great. Jefsch has to be back on

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the podcast with you. I know
we did this to us this time last

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year. So happy to come back
and talk some Kings hockey with you.

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Yeah. Absolutely, we will enjoy
this and I'll just give some opening thoughts

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on the Kings for people who weren't
paying as close of attention at the thirty

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thousand foot level. The seasons are
starting to look a little bit the same.

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Third straight year of third place in
the Pacific Division, third straight year

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of the Oilers and round one of
the playoffs. Lost each year actually in

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a diminishing number of games. First
year took them to seven and then six,

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and then this year it was only
five. But in terms of what

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the Kings did well throughout the season, gold prevention two hundred and ten goals

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allowed was the third fewest in the
NHL. That's what happens when you have

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the fourth best say percentage and allow
of the fourth fewest shots. Leading the

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way was a crushing eighty four point
six percent penalty kill. Only the Hurricanes

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had a better penalty kill than the
Kings. You know the overall that I

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look at the King a couple of
years ago, I thought of this team

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as a couple of older guys and
then this whole young core who was ready

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to all come together in jail and
be a future powerhouse. Now it feels

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like there's a distribution. There's the
sneaky middle aged. They brought in some

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guys who were kind of late twenties. They've still got a few of those

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prospects and a couple to arrive,
and a couple of the old guys are

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still hanging on and performing very well. But what's the trajectory of the Kings

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at this point and are they a
team that is going to be able to

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achieve a higher peak with some guys
leaving and some guys coming. Yeah,

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and it's a great point. I
think what happened just go back a couple

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of seasons. You're right. I
think they had a couple of older guys

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and they were looking for all the
kids. I used to joke maybe three

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seasons ago when it was really bad, play the kids, play the kids

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every game. And then they went
in a little different direction. They signed

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They signed Phil Dennell, who was
fine, has been fine. It's been

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really a good value, adding in
Victor Arverton, which if you were going

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to progress with your younger players,
you would have signed those two players.

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But there was pressure on to go
back to make the playoffs, and they

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have made the playoffs. But you're
right, the question is can this team

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are they now the Minnesota Wild a
team that can make the playoffs, can

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represent well? Can get ninety five
two hundred points and never win in the

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playoffs, And that's the question with
this team. I think you have to

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start of the top. Jesse is
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the coach. They haven't named that. They they haven't named him yet.

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They've let Trent Yonni go, who
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So that tells you that the defensive
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bit different with respect to these players
in this team. I don't know.

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This is the make it or breaking
season for Rob Blake. He's coming up

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on the last year of his contract. They have not won a playoff round

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since they won the Stanley Cup in
twenty fourteen. That's ten years. That's

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not good enough, and especially when
you go out and signed Pierre Luke Dubois,

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which was for the first season the
disaster. There are a lot of

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question marks about this team might now
Jesse, I'm not really sure how this

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team progresses. Are they when I
watched Dallas plan, I watched Dallas roll

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four lines and sizeable defense in the
legitim goaltender, Like if that's the gold

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standard, let's say in the West. They're one level below that. So

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yeah, they can make the playoffs
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a division if you believe Vancouver was
a one year anomaly. But are they

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a championship contending team. I'd have
to look at this team in July jest,

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because right now I think they're stuck
in what you said, They're stuck

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in groundhog Day. You get to
the playoffs losing in the first round,

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the fans are tied of it.
Are we getting more? I rate with

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each season? So it's gonna be
a very interesting and pivotal season for Rob

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Blake if he wants to continue with
general manager past his contract. Let's start

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with the good. The first player
will cover. Adrian Kempe really had a

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career season and a team where I, like I said, I think about

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the kids, and I think about
the gray beards. These guys are in

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their primes, twenty seven years old, and his trajectory through his mid twenties

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has been up into the right pretty
consistently improving. So seventy five points in

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seventy seven games, more than three
shots and a hit and a half per

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game, seventy third in our bashed
metric of goals the black, shots and

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hits per game or overall in the
NHL. Very reasonable contract rounds out the

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profile. Five point five mil for
a couple more years. Is keimbe meant

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to be the star of this team, and can you expect him to keep

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this up? Yeah, And when
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I believe two seasons ago was forty
eight, he dropped the twenty eight forty

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one. He went from forty one
to twenty eight. People that wear the

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goal but he was better with the
spec too, assists. He was the

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leading scorer on the team. He
was voted at MVP by the media here

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in Los Angeles. He's a true
leader right now, Jesse. He is.

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He's their best player, without questioning, the most rounded best player.

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Cope Tool might have some things to
say about that. But when you lead

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this team and I think Kope left
the team in scoring for sixteen or eighteen

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years, the fact that agent did
lead the league and did lead the team

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in scoring, fine, but he's
not a one hundred point player either.

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Let's be really at seventy five,
which was a great season for him,

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I think you'll see more in the
goal total. So if you're going to

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play this player, you might want
to lean in towards his goal production,

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which I think would be closer to
forty one to twenty eight next season.

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And with a better team, you
probably going to get maybe five or six

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points more overall, like a point
of game player. You're not going to

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get a top ten or top five
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the team around him is going to
be that, and I don't think their

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power play is strong enough to do
that, because you look at Adrian,

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he had twenty three regular twenty three
even strength goals, only five on the

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power play. The true leading scorers
in this team, in this league have

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a lot more power play goals.
So excellent player excellent places with choice would

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be your first year selection for me, No if I'm a fantasy standpoint,

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but absolutely a solid addition if you
can get him on a value pick.

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If Kempe is the top, Kevin
Fiala is right there as well. We

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mentioned the tidy ranks. Kempei thirty
nine, f YALA fifty three, so

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right there, almost in the top
fifty. He had a pretty solid year

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overall, and in his second full
season with the Kings, he did regrets

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to blow the point per game mark
for the first time in three seasons.

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He had eighty five and eighty six
point paces previously. Although he didn't play

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a full eighty two in the first
King season he did this season, so

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that was nice to see. His
time on ice did go up last season,

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as well as his power plat the
time and ice, but his shooting

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percentage was slightly above average. His
pdo IPP and power play IPP all a

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bit low, so maybe that explains
partially why he didn't score quite as many

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points. But Dennis, can you
explain overall what happened to the points for

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Fiela and can he get back to
a point per game plus next season?

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Yeah, Victor, he can now
understand. He played what eighteen minutes a

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night without being on the top six
or a lot of the season. When

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Victor Arbitson went out, he went
He jumped back up to the second line

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role with Deno and Trevor Moore.
This is the player that you always want

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more from. He was their leading
power play goal scorer with eleven, so

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that's it. I think he can
certainly get the thirty five. I think

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it's a matter, to be honest
with you, of where Kevin's going to

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play in the lineup, and that's
been a challenge for Kevin and I'm sure

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we'll talk about while later on.
If Kevin had a dedicated spot in the

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lineup where he can go to every
night. He probably had more points.

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Now. Part of that is in
because he is a very He's the most

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difficult player to play with, be
honest with you, and I think players

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privately would tell that because he's so
unpredictable Victor, and he can make great

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plays. He's when he's at his
best. He takes the risk he plays

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that the blind passes to back to
the blue line, they come out of

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his game. So just she stretches
where Kevin will be productive and not make

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mistakes And you say, why can
he do that for eighty two games?

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And that's the challenge with Kevin Fiala. But will he be a point producer?

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Absolutely, I would think that Kevin
could lead the team in scoring next

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year because I agree with you,
I think seventy three points is underachieving for

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Kevin Fiala. Twenty nine goals is
probably what you're going to get. I'd

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say twenty eight to thirty two.
I think he'd be more productive with the

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stuck to assist and probably as with
helpers on the power play. Doesn't play

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on the penalty kill, so that
doesn't really take up his time So I

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think this is one player that if
you said, okay, could this player

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get to the achievement of maybe eighty
five or ninety points. I think this

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is the one player that could on
this team. Yeah, I'd love to

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hear it. The next guy I
want to ask you about is Quentin Byfield.

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I have been a long time Byfield
stand It was awesome to see him

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come into his own a little bit
more this season. He had record highs

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and time on ice, powerplay time
and ice hits, shots, blocks,

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points, pretty much everything, and
he was consistently in the top six,

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at least towards the end, playing
mostly wing, which was a big move

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for him. They had been trying
him down the center. He was getting

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three C looks before that, but
the move to the wing has allowed him

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more time on ice. His time
went from twelve oh nine to fourteen oh

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four to sixteen twenty nine this season. So I guess the big question here,

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Dennis is do you think Byfield has
another gear? Can he get over

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a sixty five point pace next season? He was at fifty six point pace

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this season. Victor, as a
second overall pick, you would hope his

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ceiling is in fifty five points right, and I don't think it is.

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And yeah, it's great when he
has an emerging season and this is the

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season he needed to emerge, right, There's a lot of questions very he

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had a poor season two seasons ago
because he had risk issues, he was

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ill for a while. He had
won five goals in the Song games.

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He had to emerge and he did
the question with pit quinton is and I

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agree with the spect to having patients
for this player. And you need to

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have patients sometimes, especially with the
bigger players. You've seen that with Sebkowski

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Montreal as well. They just take
more time to develop physically and canfine their

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game. Quentin scored twenty goals and
he really doesn't have any other Like he

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doesn't have a shot like he goes
to the net. Does He had two

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beautiful goals against Columbus in Montreal this
year, but he still needs to find

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his shot, Like he doesn't really
have a great shot, Like most of

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his goals are getting to the net
getting rebounds, which he should sometimes power

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moves to the net, but his
game he doesn't like he's not awfto Matthews.

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He doesn't have a wicked rist shot. It's going to be he might,

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he never uses it, so I
think this summer and when I spoke

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to him at exit meetings, he
needs to work on his game's, particularly

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in a shot, because if he
get twenty without really having a legitimate shot

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in his arsenal, then can he
get to thirty thirty five? Yeah?

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Do I think he's a top five
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I don't, and also would be
a function of course the players that

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surround him, But should quit be
more than a fifty five point twenty thirty

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five guy? Next season he should
probably get close to thirty. Maybe Again,

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this is a point of player.
This could be a point of game

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potential player next season. You're talking
about thirty and fifty. Is that doable

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on this team? It probably is. He might take away some points from

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Copaitar. And that's the one question
as you bring up Victor, what is

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Quinton Byfield? Is he truly your
first line left wing? Will eventually rolled

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back to center? And when I
ask him about that, he says,

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I grewup planned center, and so
he wants to play center at some point

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in time. And I think if
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to ask Quintin Buyfield to go back
to the middle, step up and maybe

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produce more. But I would expect
a lot more with respect his production next

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season than fifty five points. He's
just finding his game. You have to

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remember he's still a kid coming out
of his ELC. We've mentioned him a

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couple of times, but on j
Coopepetar, you don't want to take him

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for granted because he is just unstoppable. It seems seventy points last year in

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eighty one games, he led forwards
on the team with nineteen thirty nine average

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time on ice. The only player
in the NHL last year that outscored him

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but was older than him, was
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Area era, only sid Crosby has
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Moreover, Copaitar's contract is about to
start aging gracefully. Is that eight

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x ten contractors finally run out next
two years? Seven million per little bit

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more flexibility for the team. The
question is can we just keep getting another

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year of this from Copaitar? Yeah? The question was when is he gonna

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regress? He never regresses. Jesse
I would expect the same thing. I

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would expect twenty five, forty five, seventy five points. I would not

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for nothing. This is look Copa. Tar's the coaches son. He grew

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up in Europe, as European.
He's a past first mentality guy, always

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has been, never been a huge
goal scorer. But he sh when he

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shoots. He's got a great arsenal
shots. He actually took a slap shot

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for a goal last year. I
joked on and go a slap shot.

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I didn't even know you had a
slap shot in the arsenal. So great

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risk shot, great leader. Has
stayed away from injuries, and you would

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think, yes, normally regression from
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And when I watched him playing.
I watched him play the final weeks of

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the season. He wasn't tired,
he wasn't banged up, he was injury

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free. I was also process of
the penalty minutes though. Now this guy,

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he's one of the being and he
had twenty two minutes and penalties and

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when he took a misconduct, there
was like I guess at the game at

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the end of the season where all
ten players on the Ascott miscontacts and Kope

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was one of my I go bro, they go to a lady bing.

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But I would expect the same level
of production. I don't expect any regression.

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If it happened, I wouldn't be
shocked. But with this player,

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he asked for three four years.
Okay, you can't keep producing this.

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You're thirty four, you're thirty five, you're thirty six. Stop Okay,

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he's a seventy point player on this
team. I would expect about the same

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productivity next season for the Kings shoot, I hope we had the copaitar heel

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turn there. That would have been
fun. But Trevor Moore, Trevor More

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fascinated me when I really went to
look at some of the scoring here in

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ghostbub replacement. Last year, only
Byfield had more ghostbub replacement than more fifty

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eight points in fifty seven points in
eighty two, you might miss what happened.

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He was a bit further down the
score sheet his black shot, since

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his bash was number sixty six in
the NHL. More dragged anybody who was

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paired with When you look at the
with or without you to the good end

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of the chart, people were better
when he got out there with more I

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guess I hadn't appreciated this guy as
a real player. We'll talk about the

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guy who was out there a lot
with him later, But is there a

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chance that Trevor Moore could maybe push
up this offense a little bit to match

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his sort of real life overall contributions
just he had twenty nine even strength goals,

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which is a lot, and he
tagled off towards the end of the

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season. But he's a local kid
from Thousand Oaks, California. Everybody jokes

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about it. Every time he scores
a goal, he says, some Thousand

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Oaks that's been a runner. But
he was finally healthy. He had some

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concussion issues, he had the other
injurieses he was finally healthy. So what

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do I think about this player?
I think can he get the thirty one

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again? Might be a stretch,
but can he improve on the assist total

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of twenty six? Yeah, but
I think he's a sixty point player.

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I think he's a twenty five thirty
five player on this team. He's proven

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himself when he's healthy. He's a
tenacious four checker. He gets in there.

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He does not afraid to get his
nose dirty in front of them.

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That he's got an underrated shot,
Jesse. I think that was the thirty

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one goal. I think he surprised
a lot of goals with his wrist shot

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last year. I already do because
they will look at the lineup and even

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coaches posting coaches, Okay, this
kid fifteen goals, he's a marker,

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he's a grinder. No, he's
actually got a really good shot. Not

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the speediest kid in the world,
So I think he's had about at his

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ceiling from a productivity standpoint, So
maybe a little bit of regression on the

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goal total, but I'd still think
that with sixty points and probably third or

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fourth and scoring on this team is
certainly with any in reach. Again because

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the partnership and he'll probably talk to
him, talk about him with a philter.

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Know that's been a great partnership for
the last couple of seasons. Yeah,

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for sure. Yeah, we will
come back to him. But Victor

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Arvidson is next. He missed a
big chunk of the season to injury of

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definite incomplete there came back in stepped
back into a power play one role for

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the last couple of months and fifteen
points in his eighteen games, and he

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also contributed three assists in the playoffs. Is Victor Arbidson poised for a bounce

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back next year, maybe on a
different team, just because he's unrestricted.

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He played only eighteen games. He's
been banging. He's been had back issues

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for two seasons that cost him a
lot of time. Look, and you're

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right when he came like in the
regular season, he played eighteen games at

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fifteen points. He's a productive player. He changed the mentality of this team

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when he came back, on the
power play and on the offense because he's

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a first shoot guy. He's a
playmaker. I think the Kings would love

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to bring him back if they knew
he could play eighty two games. I

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think there's that doubt, so I
think they might go to some of their

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younger forwards like a tur Cod or
maybe a fag Moo again. So I'm

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not certain he'll come back. I
think that if he does sign with another

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team, I assume he still wants
to play. I assume he'll be productive.

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The question is in the caution flag, is like, how many games

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do you think this player role play
next season? Can you rely him to

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play eighty two No? And I
think that's a major barrier for him coming

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back to Los Angeles next season.
We tend to talk about forwards in order

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of roughly in order of scoring,
but dropping down to to know here seems

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a little bit unfair to to know
because he is still exceptional. He had

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forty seven points in seventy eight games. He is like we were talking about

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locked at the hip with Trevor Moore. They played eight hundred and sixty four

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minutes together at five on five.
That was the twelfth most that any two

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forwards played together among fifteen hundred and
seventy seven forward pairings in the National Hockey

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League five on five last year.
And if you go with percentage of minutes,

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Deno Moore is ninth in NHL for
percent together. So obviously you can't

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talk about one without the other.
And why wouldn't you keep them together When

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they skated together, all of the
two man forward combos with the at least

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three hundred time on ice, they
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They you didn't shoot against them.
Denot scored, as we said,

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his scoring was down a little bit. He doesn't shoot as much, and

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that seems to be a part of
what's going on. There. His reputation,

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of course coming in was a two
way guy who helped that Montreal run

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to the Cup finals. So what
is the no spot on next year's team?

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And maybe can he ever get those
stats that US fantasy managers crave.

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I don't think so, because in
a perfect world, I think what you

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would have on a championship team,
Phildeau would be a three seed, not

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a two seed. And if they
do put Fiala with Denot and more,

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that probably helped Denot's assist total if
he stays there permanently for most of the

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season Fiala. But I think you're
seeing one. I think two seasons are

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going. He had twenty five goals
or something in the high twenties that that

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was an anomaly. This is what
he is. He's seventeen thirty forty seven,

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and that's great if he's your third
line center, Jesse. If he's

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your second line center, he probably
don't have enough offense. And that was

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the problem with with Dubas is that
you would think the lineup would be Coppaitar,

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Dubois, Deno, but it wound
up being Cobaitar, Deno, Dubois.

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But I don't think you're gonna get
more than fifty points. Well,

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he's a two way player who'll get
a lot of ice time. He's a

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staple on the penalty kill, right, He's on the second unit of power

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play. This is what he is. He's a fifty point player. He's

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a fifteen to thirty five, twenty
thirty fifty point player. So I think

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that the fantasy managers that look for
point production out of field to now,

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I don't think you're ever going to
get it, because I think at some

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point in time, at least the
Kings hope that Dubai would be the two

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C and Phil will be to three
C and that would help them go deeper

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in the playoffs. You already referenced
it. We have come to the part

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of the show where we have to
talk about the disaster that is and was

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and probably will be Pierre Luke Dubois
and that contract woo. I don't know

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how else to describe it. There's
a lot of adjectives you could use,

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but his first season with the Kings
was not great. He seemed to rehabilitate

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his contract in his career in Winnipeg. The Kings acquired Dubas and assign in

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trade with the Jets eight times eight
point five million. He is the highest

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paid King by nearly a million over
Kevin Fiala, and arguably one of the

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least effective forwards. Of all the
Kings forwards who played at least as much

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as Duba, only Kempe and La
Frenier had a worse expected goal differential.

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And we talked about how much bring
how much Kempe brings in the offense,

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So that's not really a fair comparison. In your left sorry, la Farrier

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makes one tenth of what Dubois does, So those guys aren't really in the

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same conversation. Where do we go
from here, Dennis? What do the

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Kings do? What does Dubois do? What can we expect from him moving

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forward? And is there any chance
he gets back to the player he was

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at the end of Winnipeg And the
problem with the left farrier's negative stats is

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that he was on the line with
Dubois. You can say the bois contributed

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to those negative stats, Victor,
I don't know. I think the danger

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here in Los Angeles is that you
don't want a situation to happen like what

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happened with Uberdo and Calgary. Remember
Uberho saw in that big contract, came

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over in trade, had a lot
of expectations, didn't get along with Daryl

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Sutter and had a poor season.
But the second season wasn't any better.

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And that's the biggest concern here,
what's going on with this player. It's

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about engagement, and they do bring
back Hiller as a coach. He never

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got through the Dubai Dull the fourth
line center in the playoffs, like you

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can't have that, Like it's the
problem is he's a nonchalant style to his

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game right And I've joked all season, I've never seen a player play with

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one hand on a stick more than
this guy. It just it didn't work.

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It never worked. His approach to
the game wasn't there. And I

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think it's the optics when you have
guys who aren't the most talented players on

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the team, like Trevor Moore and
Blake Lazzade giving every inch of energy when

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they're out there on the ice,
and this guy comes out and doesn't look

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like he's that engaged. It's a
huge problem. Victor. So I don't

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know how he's got to be better
than forty points. And he didn't need

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to be a superstar. Either here's
the thing, you had enough scoring if

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they got what he delivered, like
in Columbus, like he to me,

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he's a sixty point player. He's
a thirty to thirty guy. He's not

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a great facilitator. He's not a
great passer, but he's a scoring center,

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which is great if you have Copatar
and to know and he's the thing,

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Victor. The most frustrating thing is
he was set up to win because

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when you have Copaitar and Denot in
the middle, you don't have to worry

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about playing defense. If you're on
the third line, you don't. He

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just had to go out and produce, and he never produced. That was

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the biggest challenge. He's got to
be better than forty is it? Would

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it be great to take a risk
on this player in later rounds in your

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fantasy draft. Yeah, he's not
gonna be your first or second round pick.

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You camp be. He has to
prove it. So you might miss

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on him from a fantasy standpoint this
season because you can't take the risk.

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There's nothing in his game that you
saw when it's a lot about effort and

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engagement, Like how do you change
that? The players got to change that

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not a system, not a style, not your players around. The player

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has to change that. So he
would be a very risky pick. It

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might payoff for some guys who like
risking their game when they picked fantasy players,

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but this guy I would stay away
from until he proved that he could

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be the guy that they felt they
would get. And again, it wasn't

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gonna be Austin Matthews, but it
was gonna be twenty five to thirty another

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thirty assists being monster on a Popeye. And here's the thing. He had

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00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:47,920
nine even strength goals this year,
like Drew Dowdy had eight. It's just

408
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:52,559
not good enough. So all the
negative and asparaging comments about this players season,

409
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,720
he earned to be honest with you. So it'd be a very risky

410
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,039
play. If you're gonna pick this
player high, it might payoff, it

411
00:24:59,079 --> 00:25:03,839
wouldn't be me. Wow. I
got a follow up. There's been a

412
00:25:03,839 --> 00:25:07,480
lot of talk in the hockey media
about should they have bottom out this offseason,

413
00:25:07,559 --> 00:25:11,200
and apparently the general managers said,
now, we were never going to

414
00:25:11,279 --> 00:25:14,960
consider it. That's what I thought. I remembered came out from a press

415
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,839
conference or something. But do you
think that was ever a possibility. I

416
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,599
asked Rob that question directly because it
was the elephant in the room. Because

417
00:25:22,599 --> 00:25:26,519
of this age and the Stanley Cup
Final finishes before the twenty fourth, before

418
00:25:26,519 --> 00:25:29,519
he turns twenty six. You get
him at a one third buyout. Here's

419
00:25:29,519 --> 00:25:32,400
the thing. Ownership is not going
to let the Kings pay a player of

420
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,759
twenty seven million dollars not to play
for the team. That was a non

421
00:25:34,759 --> 00:25:38,400
starter. Well it made sense and
people started looking at that. Wow,

422
00:25:38,519 --> 00:25:41,599
it actually would work, and it
would save six million dollars this year and

423
00:25:41,599 --> 00:25:45,400
that cap hit and that would help
them get a goaltender. It would It

424
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,039
was never going to happen. So
while the speculator, and it was fair

425
00:25:48,079 --> 00:25:52,640
to speculate because the coy didn't deliver
and you tied into him for another seven

426
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:53,759
years. So this is the way
to get out from under. But the

427
00:25:53,799 --> 00:25:57,279
fact just the finances of the buyout, even at twenty seven million, you

428
00:25:57,279 --> 00:26:00,240
can't do it. Plus, let's
be real. If you're the general manager

429
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,880
that signed him to that contract for
sixty four sixty seven million, and one

430
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,960
year later you're telling your ownership we're
gonna buy him out. Not gonna happen.

431
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,759
The optics would be terrible there,
so while that the buy up would

432
00:26:11,799 --> 00:26:15,720
make sense, and if they had
changed general managers, they named me the

433
00:26:15,759 --> 00:26:18,920
general manager after all, Blake,
the first thing I would do is I'm

434
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,920
gonna do the bet the worst mistake
the franchise made. I'm gonna buy out

435
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,559
Dubois. You could do that the
same general manager. No way, can't

436
00:26:25,599 --> 00:26:29,079
do it. And so you're gonna
have to live with this contract for at

437
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,599
least another seven years unless you find
a way to trade him. And there

438
00:26:32,599 --> 00:26:36,839
were some trade rumors around the deadline
about going to Boston for Olmark. That

439
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,680
could happen, but I don't think
for Dubois. So it's gonna be really

440
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,480
interesting. But to answer your original
question, while it made sense from a

441
00:26:42,519 --> 00:26:47,119
statistical number standpoint with the spect to
the cap, it was in reality it

442
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,799
was never gonna happen. Yeah,
the sunk cast dilemma has not yet hit.

443
00:26:49,839 --> 00:26:53,960
But I gotta understand the mentality I
find the GM that signed anyway move

444
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,960
into the blue line. Drew Dowdy, Boy, that's another guy who I

445
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:02,640
would have thought by now would not
be this high in the conversation, but

446
00:27:03,079 --> 00:27:07,640
fifty points in eighty two games keeps
him a top twenty defenseman score in his

447
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,559
age thirty four season. Only John
Carlson had a higher average time on ice

448
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:18,240
in the NHL last year among skaters, Doughty was twenty five forty eight a

449
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:22,599
night. That's not unusual for Dowdy, but just that's a lot of mileage.

450
00:27:22,799 --> 00:27:26,599
Lest you feel like this scoring is
dropping off, is points per sixty

451
00:27:26,599 --> 00:27:30,559
of one point four to two is
actually last year was the fifth highest of

452
00:27:30,599 --> 00:27:33,640
his sixteen years. He is not
declining. He is maintained, of course,

453
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,680
the offensive environment has changed. Nonetheless, unlike Copatar, the big contract

454
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:42,599
for Dowdy isn't over yet. There's
three more eleven million dollar years to go.

455
00:27:42,759 --> 00:27:48,279
But like Copatar, is there any
reason to doubt Dowdy at this point?

456
00:27:48,559 --> 00:27:52,599
We'll talk about an up and comer
next who could becoming at some point,

457
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,440
but is there any reason to think
that Dowdy will be doing anything different

458
00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,000
from what he's been doing in the
past. I mentioned that Campe was voted

459
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,079
and MVP of the team by the
media. I wasn't want of the media

460
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,759
voted for campaign. I know for
Drew Dowdy, although Drew was the MVP

461
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,240
for this team. Because they mentioned
the production number of men Cy plays.

462
00:28:10,279 --> 00:28:12,960
He's really irreplaceable. I guess you
can see that you could replace Kempe with

463
00:28:14,079 --> 00:28:17,720
another forward. If Daddy went down, there's nobody to replace him. It's

464
00:28:17,759 --> 00:28:21,759
amazing what happens, Jesse when your
shot actually hits the net, sometimes it

465
00:28:21,799 --> 00:28:26,079
goes in. And that was the
thing with Drew's accuracy was way I gotta

466
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:27,759
think, and you never said this
during the season. I gotta think last

467
00:28:27,759 --> 00:28:33,599
summer he went and practiced his shot
and practice the accuracy because the accuracy was

468
00:28:33,319 --> 00:28:37,640
like compared to other seasons, it
was off the chart. And that's why

469
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,960
you saw fifteen goals. That's why
he saw seven power play goals. He's

470
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,039
thirty four years old. He's still
passionate for the game. He didn't he

471
00:28:44,119 --> 00:28:47,440
wasn't banged up at all. He
played every game this season. So unless

472
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,200
there's an injury, could I expect
another fifty points from his player? I

473
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,880
can, because he found he unlocked
the accuracy of his shot. This season.

474
00:28:53,079 --> 00:28:56,200
Doesn't mean fifteen nough, but he
could get more points, more assistem

475
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,839
on the power play. So I
think he's at his level right now.

476
00:29:00,119 --> 00:29:03,200
Thirty four, which sounds really old, and you think about Julie's played what

477
00:29:03,319 --> 00:29:07,000
sixteen seventeen years. That is a
lot of That is a lot of miles,

478
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,079
a lot of tread off the tires. But this season really proved that

479
00:29:10,119 --> 00:29:12,440
he's motivated. Plus I think there's
also a motivation Jesse that you got the

480
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:17,119
Four Nations tournament coming and the Olympics
tournament coming, And she says, yeah,

481
00:29:17,119 --> 00:29:18,400
I might be an older cat,
but don't forget about me. For

482
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,480
those teams, yeah, I expect
them around the same production for this player.

483
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,400
He had a marvelous season and at
thirty four, he's not quite over

484
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,440
the hill yet. So like Coppatar, I don't think there's gonna be any

485
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:33,079
regression with respectator point totals with Copatar
and Downy, for sure, Dowdy wants

486
00:29:33,079 --> 00:29:37,279
to be on Team Canada for those
best of guests, there's no question,

487
00:29:37,079 --> 00:29:40,160
And yeah, it's gonna they have
a lot of They have a lot of

488
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:41,839
choices. I don't think this next
guy will be quite in that conversation,

489
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,880
but brand Clark certainly is in the
conversation of the future top defenseman for the

490
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,359
Los Angeles Kings, and Jesse was
obviously alluding to him. We got to

491
00:29:49,359 --> 00:29:52,519
see a little bit more from Clark
this season. In the NHL sixteen games,

492
00:29:52,519 --> 00:29:56,680
he had that incredible overtime game winning
goal after leaving the penalty box.

493
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,039
That was super fun. I thought
that would lead to more if his time

494
00:30:00,079 --> 00:30:03,599
in the NHL, but it didn't. He went back to the AHL and

495
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,279
he was really great fifty games when
the Terry rain forty six points, not

496
00:30:07,359 --> 00:30:10,599
bad, really good in the playoffs
as well. They're still going actually,

497
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,440
so as we're recording this, I
guess the question here is what do we

498
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,880
expect from Clark? Can he be
full time with the Kings? Can he

499
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,720
maybe give get some power play time
from Dowdy or maybe they put two guys

500
00:30:21,759 --> 00:30:22,920
up there on the top unit.
What do you think we can expect from

501
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,960
Brent Clark this season? I think
a function of that victor, like with

502
00:30:26,039 --> 00:30:30,279
respect to Tom on Ice, is
what happens with Matt Roy all right,

503
00:30:30,279 --> 00:30:33,559
Matt Roy is their second pair right
defenseman. He's up for a contract.

504
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,799
I don't think they can afford him
because Matt's cap hit the season I think

505
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,920
was three point one and for what
he does play twenty minutes a night,

506
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,200
is solid defender, not much offensively, blocks a lot of shots you're probably

507
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,200
gonn look at five million dollars a
year for that player. I don't think

508
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,400
he can afford that. Maybe they
can if they bring him back, that

509
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:52,000
would affect brand Clark directly, because
you wouldn't saw Matt Roy for five million

510
00:30:52,039 --> 00:30:55,000
dollars a year Victor and put him
on the third pair. That would put

511
00:30:55,039 --> 00:30:56,759
bran Clark on a third payer,
which would affect his Now. If they

512
00:30:56,839 --> 00:31:00,599
let Roy walk the free agency,
which I think will happen, then brand

513
00:31:00,599 --> 00:31:03,599
Clark's going to slide into his check
compared defenseman with with Vladislav Gavikov, which

514
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,000
will probably help will certainly help his
offensive output. Do I think he's a

515
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:11,160
fifty point player like Drew Dowdy?
I don't what I think would happen.

516
00:31:11,559 --> 00:31:14,400
You're right. One of two things
happens. He's added to the second first

517
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,119
unit power play with Drew, or
he takes over from Jordan Spence on the

518
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,039
second unit power play because Jordan had
a solid season, but he's not a

519
00:31:21,039 --> 00:31:22,799
goal Jordan doesn't have much of a
shot. He's no threat that he's got.

520
00:31:22,799 --> 00:31:26,039
He had two goals in seventy one
games and he ran the second unit

521
00:31:26,119 --> 00:31:29,839
power play. So I think that
what you would see next season if Roy

522
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,920
walks, you're looking at Bran Clark
to probably step in the second. And

523
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,880
the reason he didn't play in the
playoffs and late in the season is he's

524
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,960
still working on his defensive game and
he's working with Trent Yarni, who was

525
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,559
their defensive coach who's no longer with
the team, to get his level of

526
00:31:44,599 --> 00:31:47,359
defense up. Because to be honest
with you, yes, those highlight reel

527
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,440
goals were great that he scored this
season against Vancouver and against Boston, but

528
00:31:51,599 --> 00:31:55,759
having defend the Coono McDavid and Leon
Drysaddle in the playoffs was another different,

529
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,720
entirely different story. So he'll work
at it. I assume he'll be in

530
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,799
the lot of next season. So
from a production standpoint, I think you're

531
00:32:00,799 --> 00:32:05,759
looking at probably at this point,
maybe twenty five to thirty points. Not

532
00:32:06,319 --> 00:32:09,200
I wouldn't expect a lot, So
again, maybe a nice risky mid level

533
00:32:09,319 --> 00:32:13,240
mid round pick if you want to
play a hunch on that, because it's

534
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,359
still undetermined, and I guess it
also depends when you pick your team.

535
00:32:15,559 --> 00:32:19,799
If you can tell me on July
second that Matt Roy had walked the free

536
00:32:19,799 --> 00:32:22,480
agency and brand Clock's going to be
your second pair defenseman. Then jump on

537
00:32:22,559 --> 00:32:24,640
Baron Klaw because he has to hold
the tools victor offensively, he has the

538
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:29,279
tool to be maybe not a dominant
player, but an impact player offensively,

539
00:32:29,599 --> 00:32:31,359
and I think they'll take the leash
off him next season. Then they really

540
00:32:31,359 --> 00:32:35,960
have to. He's going to play
second pair defense because he's there for offense

541
00:32:36,079 --> 00:32:37,920
and this team certainly needs more offense, especially on the power play. So

542
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:42,000
I would think that if he does
get that second pair role, you're probably

543
00:32:42,039 --> 00:32:45,279
looking at thirty thirty five points next
season. Then maybe in the following season,

544
00:32:45,559 --> 00:32:47,359
maybe he emerges and takes over the
first unit of power play from Due

545
00:32:47,359 --> 00:32:51,119
Dowdy. At this point in time, so mid level pick, don't go

546
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,400
crazy with Clarke, but I think
he could be a reductive player of the

547
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,599
season in the lineup. Assuming Matt
Roy's going to walk the free agency.

548
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,000
I hope Matt Roy goes to either
the Canadians or the Golden Knights so that

549
00:33:01,039 --> 00:33:04,599
they can have a Roy and Awa
on the same team, and that'll just

550
00:33:05,079 --> 00:33:08,160
that'll be a nightmare for the announcers. No, that's a good point long

551
00:33:08,279 --> 00:33:13,559
term, though I appreciate all that
context for this season three four years from

552
00:33:13,559 --> 00:33:17,440
now, do we see blank Brant
Clark as a top pairing defenseman, assuming

553
00:33:17,559 --> 00:33:22,319
Dowdy slows down or eventually his contract
is up or whatever. Can he be

554
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,759
that top pairing guy all situation's top
power play fifty plus point guy. Do

555
00:33:25,799 --> 00:33:29,839
you think he has that upside still? Yeah? I think so, and

556
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,119
you draft him eighth overall for that
reason. Do I think he's at the

557
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:37,920
level of Quinus or mccarr or Yosi
with respector production. I don't, and

558
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:39,920
that's a function also of the team
as well. Again, it can It

559
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,920
depends what style of player are they
going to play, because things are going

560
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,559
to change in Los Angeles. I
assume Hill's gonna come back to them and

561
00:33:45,559 --> 00:33:49,200
play different styles. To answer your
question, yes, I think in the

562
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,920
future he can be that player.
Do I think he's going to be top

563
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,720
three or a Norris candidate. I
really don't think so. But I think

564
00:33:53,759 --> 00:33:59,119
he's a second tier production level player, the next tier of players or defenseman

565
00:33:59,279 --> 00:34:01,480
below those top elite players. I
think he could hit that because when you

566
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,000
see all the tools he has in
the passion for the game and the IQ

567
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,760
he has Offensively, he has all
the components to be a productive player.

568
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:12,639
I just question how productive I think
he will be an impact player offensively.

569
00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:15,000
I'm not sure at this point in
time. Can he get to that level?

570
00:34:15,039 --> 00:34:17,000
No? Can he get to the
second level. I believe he can.

571
00:34:19,559 --> 00:34:22,000
Awesome, So we talked about Dowdy
and Clark. I think the answer

572
00:34:22,039 --> 00:34:24,360
to this question is no. But
do you think anyone else on this blue

573
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:29,039
line can get to forty point pace
or more? Can he get to twenty

574
00:34:29,039 --> 00:34:32,000
five? No? I don't see
it. I don't see an emerging player

575
00:34:32,039 --> 00:34:36,679
either unless they draft on or trade
for one. And they look, I

576
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,920
don't think they're going to draft for
a defenseman or trade for a defenseman.

577
00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:43,480
So yeah, And that's the challenge
with this team is that they had one

578
00:34:43,519 --> 00:34:45,440
producer. And that's why you want
to make the case of Brand Clark,

579
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,679
Drew Dowdy producer for this team Offensively. I mentioned Jordan Spence, He's the

580
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,719
next productive. He had twenty four
points and he had two goals. They

581
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,400
don't get a lot. Gavkov had
six goals, seventeen assists. There's nobody

582
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,760
that's going to get forty. They're
really unless you have Brand Clark emerged this

583
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,480
sea and he could. He could, but again, the rest of this,

584
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,519
the rest of the offense isn't an
offensive league. Look, if you're

585
00:35:06,519 --> 00:35:09,480
going to have Spence and Andres England
back there on the thorpe, again,

586
00:35:09,679 --> 00:35:13,320
you're not going to get a production
there. So yeah, they're not gonna

587
00:35:13,559 --> 00:35:15,679
put it a bit this way,
Victor. They're not going to be ten

588
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:21,360
top ten productive defensive unit with respected
their scoring next season. Yeah, likely

589
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,800
look elsewhere. I would say.
Let's move on to the goalies. The

590
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:28,760
Kings were ranked fourth and expected goals
for sixty Jesse you mentioned this early on,

591
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,559
and conceded only the fifth actual goals, So they were both good and

592
00:35:31,599 --> 00:35:36,639
expected and their goalies performed admirably.
All three goalies are UFAs this summer.

593
00:35:36,639 --> 00:35:39,519
It is going to be a very
interesting summer and a new season in the

594
00:35:39,599 --> 00:35:45,159
crease. Riddick was near league minimum. Talbot one million, Coplee one point

595
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:50,239
five million. The pipeline also has
journeymen Aaron Dell, Jacob Ingram and Eric

596
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,119
Portillo. We'll talk about them in
a different part of the show, the

597
00:35:52,199 --> 00:35:55,360
younger guys, but looking at the
number of games played, it was obviously

598
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:59,880
Talbot with the most games at fifty
four, Riddick with twenty four, and

599
00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:05,480
Phoenix Copley unfortunately with the injury,
only played eight And as mentioned, Talbot

600
00:36:05,559 --> 00:36:07,320
was good, He's getting up there
in age, but goalsave above expected was

601
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:12,599
positive one point two to three.
Delta Fenwick right around neutral, but overall

602
00:36:12,639 --> 00:36:15,519
he had really good production protection and
he did pretty well with it. He

603
00:36:15,559 --> 00:36:21,079
didn't drastically outproduce it, but he
didn't underproduce it either. And Riddick,

604
00:36:21,119 --> 00:36:23,159
I think this was a good season
for Riddick. He you know, displayed

605
00:36:23,159 --> 00:36:27,199
that he can you know, he's
still an NHL caliber goalie. Eleven point

606
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,480
four to three goal save above expected
really solid in his limited action. As

607
00:36:30,519 --> 00:36:35,079
Delta Fenn was actually outstanding. But
with a lot of question marks and all

608
00:36:35,119 --> 00:36:37,800
the UFAs, what is going to
happen in the crease next season for the

609
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,440
Kings? Are they going to bring
someone in? I don't know that Eric

610
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:44,039
Portello is really ready for this opportunity
right now. It's not his time yet.

611
00:36:44,079 --> 00:36:46,360
So what happens next season? Dennis, I agree with you on Portello.

612
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:50,599
He's going to get out of the
full season in Ontario of the AHL,

613
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,639
and I'll look to him for our
future future. Number one. He's

614
00:36:52,679 --> 00:36:55,119
a big goaltender, and I think
that's the one thing this team doesn't really

615
00:36:55,119 --> 00:36:58,280
happen. Now, going back to
Can Talbot, here's what happened. Camp

616
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,039
came out a really great start to
the season. The team did, and

617
00:37:00,079 --> 00:37:04,519
I think his ask for a contract
extension was a little too high given his

618
00:37:04,639 --> 00:37:07,679
role in his age, and he
didn't want a multi year deal. He

619
00:37:07,639 --> 00:37:09,079
wouldn't want to stay in Los Angeles. Look like it's not going to happen

620
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:13,519
because he got on a roll.
Then the team didn't play well, they

621
00:37:13,559 --> 00:37:15,800
held off, so is he Here's
the thing with all these goaltenders from the

622
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:20,480
season, Victor, they were system
goaltenders, like you didn't have a goaltender

623
00:37:20,519 --> 00:37:23,039
who could save you win a game
and steal a game with forty or forty

624
00:37:23,039 --> 00:37:27,480
two. So because their one three
to one defense, as Jesse mess to

625
00:37:27,559 --> 00:37:30,360
the top, it was a shot
suppression. A system like that's going to

626
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,480
probably change because guess what, you
played the one three to one all season

627
00:37:34,599 --> 00:37:37,360
and you still can't beat the Ebontonuela's
in the playoffs. So something's got to

628
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:42,880
change defensively. So maybe you might
see more aggressive offensive teams, which means

629
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,400
what you can't have system goaltenders.
You have to have a goaltender as like

630
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,840
legit, like a top fifteen goaltender. And they did sign Riddiche to a

631
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,719
one year, one million dollar contract. They brought him back because let's be

632
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,079
real, he played the elimination game. Cam was on the bench after two

633
00:37:55,079 --> 00:37:59,360
games. If they sat Cam and
riddles was the goaltender going forward, So

634
00:37:59,519 --> 00:38:01,920
they get he's a nice quality backup
for a team, but they have to

635
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:07,039
go get a goaltender. And if
it's Sorrows or if it's Gibson, or

636
00:38:07,119 --> 00:38:09,719
if it's Markstrom, Rod Blake's got
to do that. He's got to get

637
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:14,280
a goaltender without question, and he's
probably got to get a better goaltender because

638
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,400
I don't think they're going to play
the same style because as I mentioned,

639
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:20,360
it doesn't work in the playoffs and
this team has to win a playoff round.

640
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,039
So you might see more aggressive offensive
team, which might help some of

641
00:38:22,079 --> 00:38:25,360
the fantasy managers because maybe these point
totals get elevated. But they got to

642
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:30,199
go get a goalie that can get
steal games for them, and who that

643
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:34,079
goalie is, I'm not sure,
but they certainly did an upgrade there,

644
00:38:34,079 --> 00:38:37,920
and I think that's the one biggest
question mark as we step into free agency

645
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,320
and free agent frenzy. Which goalie
are they going to acquire. It's going

646
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:44,440
to be Allmark, which seems to
be a no brainer because Swiman has been

647
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,519
fantastic. Swimon's probably gonna get around
seven million dollars a year. You can't

648
00:38:46,519 --> 00:38:50,239
have another five million dollar year on
the goaltender on the list. Now we

649
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,159
know or we heard that Ollmark may
be turned down a trade because even want

650
00:38:53,159 --> 00:38:55,599
to be that far from his home
in Sweden and it was a longer flight,

651
00:38:55,679 --> 00:38:59,639
which I don't know if that makes
any sense. But they have to

652
00:38:59,639 --> 00:39:02,639
find a better goaltender, no matter
who it is, because these system goaltenders,

653
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,719
they get you to the playoffs,
they don't win you rounds, they

654
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,599
don't win you championships. And that's
a challenge with LA right now. Yeah,

655
00:39:10,679 --> 00:39:14,679
I love that. That's a really
good point. And I don't want

656
00:39:14,679 --> 00:39:16,360
to speculate too much on who it's
going to be because we obviously don't know.

657
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:20,039
But I'm just wondering if you have
a read on John Gibson being in

658
00:39:20,079 --> 00:39:23,360
southern California, the Ducks being around
there. It's been He's been such an

659
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:27,480
interesting case because he was so good
early on. He has been bad for

660
00:39:27,519 --> 00:39:29,920
several years now, but still have
the Ducks. So it's always hard to

661
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:34,159
separate all of that context. Do
you think and does a team like the

662
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,599
Kings do other people regard him still
as someone that can be a top goaltender

663
00:39:37,639 --> 00:39:39,320
in this league? Or is there
just too many question marks there? I

664
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:43,280
think there's some question mark expect to
do. I think he could come to

665
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,320
Los Angeles and do well. I
do. The question is do the Kings

666
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:49,239
and Ducks want to make that big
of a trade, because historically they never

667
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,480
have And for let's say Gibson goes
thirty miles north of Los Angeles and wins

668
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,199
a Cup as that kind of left
for Duck fans, And you're right about

669
00:39:55,199 --> 00:39:59,599
one thing. His numbers haven't been
great, but that team stunk defensively.

670
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,719
It's it's a bad defensive team.
So you have to throw out some of

671
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,280
it, not all of that.
Those style looks to be the kid and

672
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,719
he's younger, and you've got a
six million dollar price tag on that.

673
00:40:07,039 --> 00:40:09,639
Now there have to be some retention
or maybe a contract going back to make

674
00:40:09,679 --> 00:40:13,199
that trade work. I think it
could work. And then one thing that

675
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,400
you would know, I assume moving
to a team that's thirty miles north of

676
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:21,519
where you play now, you won't
enact your no movement clause. I think

677
00:40:21,519 --> 00:40:23,559
he'd be happy to play in Los
Angeles. His legacy, what if forever

678
00:40:23,599 --> 00:40:27,800
it is in Anahem is set.
It's a really good goaltender, couldn't get

679
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,880
the team over the hump. I
still think there's juice left in this player.

680
00:40:30,119 --> 00:40:32,119
He has been a little bit injury
prone. You have to look out

681
00:40:32,159 --> 00:40:36,000
for that. I think he could
work in Los Angeles. I do,

682
00:40:36,079 --> 00:40:38,400
but at six million dollars a year, I'm sure there has to be some

683
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:43,679
cap mechanics to make that work for
Los Angeles because despite the fact they have

684
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,440
some guys walking away as the free
agents, and Jesse mentioned that Coprait contracts

685
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:50,960
coming down three million, they still
have to pay byfield the contract. They

686
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,800
still probably have to go get another
forward. So it's be interesting to see

687
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:57,960
if they can get from a budget
standpoint, get that contract in their budget

688
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:02,599
for next season's cap hit Dennis,
this has been some tremendous content on the

689
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:07,119
LA Kings. How can people out
there find all the work you're doing well,

690
00:41:07,159 --> 00:41:10,079
if you can't find me, you're
probably not looking for me. Jess.

691
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:14,400
Let's see. We do the Hot
Stove on Serious XM every Saturday from

692
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,440
eleven to one Eastern. I'm an
occasional co host with Steve Cooley. Is

693
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:22,800
also on the Power Play on Serious
XM from noon to three Pacific some days.

694
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,519
You have to check my social media
accounts and the fourth Period dot com.

695
00:41:25,559 --> 00:41:30,039
We'll have our predictions for the Cup
Final and the Conference finals as well,

696
00:41:30,159 --> 00:41:34,760
and also be doing the pregame show
for Serious XM for all games in

697
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,079
the Cup Final, no matter where
they are. So, like I said,

698
00:41:37,079 --> 00:41:38,000
I'm not hiding. If you guys
want to find me, you can

699
00:41:38,039 --> 00:41:44,000
find my content somewhere. I hope
everybody does. And much appreciating having you

700
00:41:44,039 --> 00:41:45,880
on again, Dennis. Oh,
it's great being on talking hockey with you

701
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:55,440
guys. I appreciate the ass.
Wilson. Then that's getting fired past.

702
00:41:55,480 --> 00:42:07,880
Oh my goodness. Long now it's
your Wingley Goalie talk but Kat Silverman Kat's

703
00:42:07,159 --> 00:42:13,559
instincts joined once again by Kat Silverman
of Goal mag to talk prospect goalies.

704
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:19,079
LA King's edition might as well be
tabbed the Eric Portillo System, because I

705
00:42:19,119 --> 00:42:22,199
think all the eggs are in this
basket. Kat, You're gonna tell me

706
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,480
if I'm right or wrong about that. But he's a six foot six,

707
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:29,239
two hundred and twenty five pound goalie. He's He was a twenty nineteen third

708
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,559
round pick by Buffalo, traded to
LA last season and signed had his first

709
00:42:32,639 --> 00:42:37,840
taste of HL action and it went
checks notes here very well. Actually,

710
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,840
he was played thirty nine games for
the Untrain, which is a pretty good

711
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:44,960
AHL team, but he had a
nine to eighteen save percentage, two five

712
00:42:45,079 --> 00:42:50,039
zero goals against, and he had
a one point sixty nine goals expected goals

713
00:42:50,039 --> 00:42:53,039
per goal conceded. He had really
good numbers in that metric at Michigan,

714
00:42:53,079 --> 00:42:57,400
but this was even better in a
more difficult league. So I'm impressed.

715
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,840
I guess I would say, looking
at his prospecting, it's a low equivalency.

716
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,920
Some of the leagues he played in
previously were pretty low. He didn't

717
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,800
have an equivalency in a couple of
them, and he missed some time and

718
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,280
then he was in the j twenty
USHL, and so some of those are

719
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:14,360
a little bit lower. But the
comp that I have from here is Alex

720
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,440
Nandelkovich, who would be a decent
outcome, but maybe he has more upside

721
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:21,519
than that. Last time we talked, Kat, you were high on him

722
00:43:21,559 --> 00:43:24,519
initially and how and talked about how
much LA needed him, which they definitely

723
00:43:24,599 --> 00:43:29,519
do. The need in LA has
not changed, perhaps only intensified. You

724
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,079
mentioned that he's not as slow as
some big guys are. So what do

725
00:43:32,079 --> 00:43:37,079
your instincts tell us now about Eric
Portillo? I truly first starters. I'm

726
00:43:37,119 --> 00:43:42,440
still just baffled that LA, which
for a while there was almost a system

727
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,719
that would crank out good goaltenders and
trade them to other teams that badly needed

728
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:50,480
them, almost like an asset factory. And here they are now. So

729
00:43:50,599 --> 00:43:54,280
that's really fascinating to watch. But
I think Eric Portillo has to panel for

730
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:58,519
them at this point because they don't
have a whole lot in their system.

731
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,400
Obviously, things with kal Peter and
I think they'd put a lot of eggs

732
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:04,280
in that basket. So I'm always
a little nervous when they have one guy

733
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,719
who essentially has to do well,
but I think he does. I think

734
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,039
he has to do well for them. That being said, it looked like

735
00:44:10,039 --> 00:44:15,519
he did really well. I think
his development has continued on a very consistent

736
00:44:15,559 --> 00:44:20,840
trajectory. He's still someone who I
consider one of the bigger but not necessarily

737
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,079
slower goaltenders. His depth management looks
really good, and sometimes you see those

738
00:44:24,079 --> 00:44:29,800
guys who are physically intimidating because he
is. He's a big boy, he's

739
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,320
sixty six two twenty five. When
you see guys like that playing in the

740
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:37,960
collegiate games, sometimes it's almost a
little easier for them, just because they

741
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,960
can physically intimidate and take away space
from some of the college players who aren't

742
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,639
necessarily going to go pro, and
then they hit the pros and have to

743
00:44:45,679 --> 00:44:51,599
show off a little bit more speed
and really just find themselves lost. And

744
00:44:51,639 --> 00:44:53,920
I thought that he looked at the
AHL level, he looked really good.

745
00:44:54,199 --> 00:45:01,440
I would like to see what he
can do with consistent time in the AHL

746
00:45:01,519 --> 00:45:07,960
for LA, and I'd love to
see what happens if he gets an NHL

747
00:45:07,039 --> 00:45:13,880
starter too. I think he is
officially old enough that they could probably give

748
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,400
him some NHL starts next year if
they need to, so I'd love to

749
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:21,480
see what happens there, just because
I want to see what his decision making

750
00:45:21,559 --> 00:45:24,559
looks like when he is forced out
of his comfort zone, just because he's

751
00:45:24,559 --> 00:45:30,440
big enough that playing against lower level
shooters, he can use his size more

752
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:34,519
than he uses some of his decision
making. And I think once you hit

753
00:45:34,559 --> 00:45:38,960
the NHL that becomes fully exposed.
So I'm excited to see what happens there.

754
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:49,039
I think LA from a physical standpoint
as a team is really strengthening themselves

755
00:45:49,119 --> 00:45:52,599
up. Again. It helps that
they're in a very weak division right now,

756
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,239
so that might help him a little
bit. But I yeah, I

757
00:45:55,239 --> 00:46:00,360
think he's ready to hit the NHL
at least for partial periods of time,

758
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:06,119
and I'd love to see what happens
there. How dare you speak truth about

759
00:46:06,119 --> 00:46:10,000
the Pacific Division like that? Yeah, they don't really have. They have

760
00:46:10,079 --> 00:46:14,880
David Riddick at one more year and
no other goalie signed, so it's can

761
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:19,800
be very interesting to see what happens. Yeah, maybe they roll back Cam

762
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,920
Telliber for another year. We will
see. It'll be interesting. They have

763
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:27,039
a couple other goalies that we could
mention, but as you said, they

764
00:46:27,119 --> 00:46:30,360
really need Portilla to work out.
But Jacob Ingram is another one who played

765
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:34,840
for the Antira raign last year.
Aaron Dell got twelve stars, David Riddick

766
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,519
got sixteen, and Jacob Ingram was
the only other one, so they had

767
00:46:37,599 --> 00:46:42,840
quite a rotation there. He had
six games, then he had I feel

768
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,280
like we know who Dell and Riddick
are. Jacob Ingram with the six AHL

769
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:49,280
stars, then thirty four EHL Stars. I think we're still learning a little

770
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,079
bit. He's six foot five,
two hundred and five pounds. He was

771
00:46:52,159 --> 00:46:54,960
drafted way back in twenty eighteen.
He's now twenty three years old. He's

772
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:59,039
had good numbers this season and both
those stops. If you look at his

773
00:46:59,039 --> 00:47:04,320
hockey prospecting, though, it's really
trending down to low single digit numbers.

774
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,880
Eight percent chance of being a starter
of that is really low. There aren't

775
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:12,199
really any good comps there for him. The only one was Dan Ellis,

776
00:47:12,199 --> 00:47:15,920
who was a replacement level goalie rafted
by Dallas. So, Kat, what

777
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:22,239
do your instincts tell us about Jacob
Ingham. That's been a really fascinating goaltender

778
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:29,039
to watch because when he was drafted, I think they really expected him to

779
00:47:29,119 --> 00:47:32,360
be one of their top prospects,
and they drafted him right at the tail

780
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:37,840
end of having a wealth of goaltenders. They drafted him right before we knew

781
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:42,280
whether or not Jack Campbell was going
to pan out. Right before we knew

782
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,639
whether or not Cal Peterson was going
to pan out, and obviously they now

783
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:50,079
have neither of those. And I
had considered him kind of an insurance pick

784
00:47:50,159 --> 00:47:53,800
for them. He looked like someone
who if he panned out, that's great.

785
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,760
If he didn't, that's okay.
They had so many other goaltenders in

786
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:02,199
their system, and now they have
Aaron Dell and David Riditch, which that's

787
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:06,519
a choice. I do know that. So they just resigned him. They

788
00:48:06,559 --> 00:48:08,280
gave him a one year, two
way deal. It looked like even this

789
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:12,679
past year they didn't really consider him
a super high prospect for them, just

790
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,360
because looking at what they did,
they had loaned him to the Greenfield Swamp

791
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:22,000
Rabbits in the ECHL And I don't
know. I feel like when you have

792
00:48:22,039 --> 00:48:24,000
a good prospect like that, especially
when you have guys like Aaron Dell and

793
00:48:24,039 --> 00:48:30,360
David Brittitch in your system who full
no offense tie they're one of them,

794
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,760
they seem like really great character guys
to have in your locker room. They

795
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:38,360
seem like good guys to have around
your young goaltenders just to help keep things

796
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:42,960
on a more even keel. Because
they've both been through some pretty severe ups

797
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,400
and downs throughout their careers. Giving
them the majority of the starts and only

798
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:51,840
giving Jacob Ingham six HL starts and
then sending him to the EHL for the

799
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,239
remainder of the year, it doesn't
necessarily bode super well for him. But

800
00:48:55,360 --> 00:49:00,599
that being said, like you said, they only have one guy I signed

801
00:49:00,599 --> 00:49:05,119
for next year outside of Eric Portillo. Yes, he's their second best guy

802
00:49:06,199 --> 00:49:09,199
in the system right now. From
a prospect perspective watching him play, he

803
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:14,559
looks like a replacement level NHL guy, like one of those tweeers. His

804
00:49:14,639 --> 00:49:19,639
decision making is fine, his movement
is fine. He doesn't seem like he

805
00:49:19,639 --> 00:49:24,159
does anything that's a glaring red flag, but doesn't really do anything that clearly

806
00:49:25,159 --> 00:49:29,599
demonstrates that he needs to be pushed
up to the NHL level instead, or

807
00:49:29,639 --> 00:49:31,920
that he should be fighting for more
AHL starts. He just looks like he's

808
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:39,519
there. His skating is once again
fine. He doesn't do anything super glaringly

809
00:49:39,639 --> 00:49:44,559
bad. He's not over correcting too
much, he's not oversliding, he's not

810
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:46,599
challenging way out of the crease.
He's just not making any of those really

811
00:49:46,679 --> 00:49:52,280
dazzling saves when he needs to and
he sometimes his angles are a little off,

812
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,679
just little things that don't make him
look super spectacular. So we'll see.

813
00:49:55,800 --> 00:50:00,559
I think they if they re signed
him, I think that means they

814
00:50:00,039 --> 00:50:02,480
have to be giving him a second
look. But at this point, I

815
00:50:02,519 --> 00:50:07,559
think this is probably especially on a
one year deal for this upcoming year,

816
00:50:07,559 --> 00:50:09,559
it's a one year, two way. I think this is probably his last

817
00:50:09,639 --> 00:50:15,599
chance to show them that he essentially
needs more needs more development from them,

818
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:19,480
versus getting released into the wild for
another team to scoop up. So I

819
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:23,760
don't know, we'll see. I
find it hard to be super worried about

820
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:28,280
having him in the system, but
I don't. There's not a ton about

821
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,880
him that makes me super excited either. Let's talk about the last guy.

822
00:50:31,079 --> 00:50:36,800
Hampton Slukinski six foot, one hundred
ninety pounds twenty twenty three fourth round pick

823
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,719
played mainly in the high in high
school in Minnesota and his draft season a

824
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:44,280
couple of games in the usn TDP. Last season, he was with the

825
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,719
Fargo Force of the UCCHL, and
his numbers were pretty stellar, being that

826
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:52,000
he was just in high school in
the USHL and a July second birthday.

827
00:50:52,079 --> 00:50:54,920
He is far from being someone who
they can consider with the main club,

828
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:59,480
but maybe it's someone that we can
be interested in. He is committed to

829
00:51:00,039 --> 00:51:05,440
more than Michigan University for college.
His hilarious. His one of his best

830
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:09,679
comps here in hockey prospecting is Cal
Peterson. That was not intentional, It

831
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:14,840
just popped up. So got what
do your instincts tell us about Slokinski.

832
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,559
So a lot of those high school
games are impossible to find a ton of

833
00:51:19,559 --> 00:51:23,360
footage on. I did catch a
couple clips of him, and he looks

834
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:27,880
really happy to be there. It's
the best way to describe his games.

835
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:34,000
He First off, I think he
has an elite hockey name. I think

836
00:51:34,159 --> 00:51:38,679
Hampton Slakinski is. If somebody was
writing a fictional book about a hockey player

837
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:42,400
like that would be their name.
So I want to see him sixcted just

838
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,079
because of that. But I don't
know. I think we truly have to

839
00:51:45,119 --> 00:51:51,559
watch him play against collegiate goaltenders.
Because he did well in the USHL.

840
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:58,480
It looked like he had the instinct, he had, the speed, he

841
00:51:58,519 --> 00:52:02,840
had the reaction timing. His game
was super unrefined though, and I don't

842
00:52:04,079 --> 00:52:06,880
know how much of a step forward
he took just because I wasn't able to

843
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:13,079
see what some of his prior year
development looked like. Whereas, especially with

844
00:52:13,119 --> 00:52:17,519
some of those Canadian goaltenders in the
European goaltenders, if they're playing a couple

845
00:52:17,639 --> 00:52:21,719
games here and there in higher level
systems, we're really able to see them

846
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:25,440
play from sometimes age sixteen, we're
able to get some of that linear paths

847
00:52:25,559 --> 00:52:30,000
upwards for them. So I'd love
to see him play a second year of

848
00:52:31,119 --> 00:52:38,840
film hockey just so we can see
if that really aggressive, enthusiastic style is

849
00:52:40,199 --> 00:52:45,880
going to be a thing for him, or if that was just him trying

850
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:52,360
to hold his own against a much
faster pace in the USHL, Because there

851
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,800
are some really good high school teams
out there, but none of them come

852
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:59,000
even close to playing a full season
of USAHL hockey. So it may have

853
00:52:59,079 --> 00:53:00,760
just been him trying to keep up
and doing a really good job of it.

854
00:53:01,039 --> 00:53:06,159
But if that's just his style,
I'm very curious to see what happens

855
00:53:06,159 --> 00:53:09,519
when he plays against adults, for
lack of a better term. So I

856
00:53:09,519 --> 00:53:13,159
think he's like you said, I
think he's a ways off from the team

857
00:53:13,159 --> 00:53:15,599
being able to consider him as a
sure thing in their depth chart. But

858
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:22,719
glad they drafted someone because boy do
they need it. They do, and

859
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:28,480
I agree. Let's see Hampton Silkinski
succeeds so we can keep enjoying that name.

860
00:53:29,039 --> 00:53:30,119
Thanks so much, Kat for telling
it, for giving me a certain

861
00:53:30,159 --> 00:53:50,280
stakes on the LA Kings Goalies.
We'll be back right after this dig the

862
00:53:50,639 --> 00:53:55,679
Dynasty dig La King's edition. Time
to talk a little bit of King's Dynasty

863
00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:00,320
prospect system. Victor likes the system
quite bit. He's got him tied for

864
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:06,719
tenth in terms of their strength and
pick number twenty one is on the way

865
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,519
this year. But they've done some
they've done some buying. They got no

866
00:54:09,679 --> 00:54:15,039
second, third or fifth round pick. So the Kings system starts with the

867
00:54:15,159 --> 00:54:20,280
no brainer. It's a name who
is a Victor. That's Brant Clark,

868
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:25,559
of course, drafted eighth overall in
twenty twenty one regular season in the AHL.

869
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:31,519
This season, he put up forty
six points in fifty games for AHL

870
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:37,119
Ontario Rain, really solid production.
Sixteen games in the show this season,

871
00:54:37,199 --> 00:54:39,760
managed six points, with three coming
on the power play. He had a

872
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:46,400
very memorable OTGWG that was fantastic coming
out of the penalty box taking it down

873
00:54:46,559 --> 00:54:50,440
if you haven't seen that clip,
go look at it. It was really

874
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,360
exciting and I thought that was going
to be a little bit more opportunity that

875
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:57,519
was going to earn him even more
leash and more time in the NHL.

876
00:54:57,519 --> 00:55:00,199
But it turned out to not be
true. He ended up going back to

877
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:04,719
the Antario Rain was with them for
their very long playoff run, which actually

878
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,760
is still going on as we record
this. They are in the Ontario Rain

879
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:13,400
are in the Pacific Division Finals against
Coachella Valley. You'll probably know when this

880
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,480
comes out how that fared. Coachella
has a very good team though so anyways,

881
00:55:16,519 --> 00:55:24,840
really strong HL production as well,
and the Kings opted not to bring

882
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:30,960
Clark into their playoff run, which
I think was unfortunate, although he might

883
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:34,920
have struggled against some of those fast
forwards for the Oilers. Anyways, forsists

884
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,880
in five playoff games for the Ontario
Rain was really nice. Looking at his

885
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:43,199
FHL player card, Brant Clark ten
out of ten in terms of gold and

886
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,519
assists per sixty, both of them
tops of the leagues. No one better

887
00:55:45,559 --> 00:55:50,039
for defense. He shoots a lot, you'd love to see that he actually

888
00:55:50,039 --> 00:55:52,559
blocks a fair amount. He'll be
above replacement level for that, but he'll

889
00:55:52,599 --> 00:55:55,480
be below replacement quite a bit below
for hits, so he blocks a lot,

890
00:55:55,599 --> 00:55:59,719
doesn't hit a lot. Overall,
the bash because of the shots and

891
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,960
blocks is pretty good and the points
certainly look like they will be there,

892
00:56:04,199 --> 00:56:07,400
so really exciting prospect. It was
great to see him a little bit more

893
00:56:07,519 --> 00:56:09,760
run in the NHL this season,
and we're going to learn a little bit

894
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:15,760
more about him from OURFHL scout.
Yes, Jacob is our scout in this

895
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:20,760
case. And skating great, positive
on the strides, top end speed,

896
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:24,320
strong cuts and edges. Showed flashes
of brilliant lateral movements. Passing and handling

897
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:30,199
excellent, fantastic puck mover, especially
in transition up the ice. Skill is

898
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:35,280
good enough to quarterback a power play
shooting his great quick release off the stick,

899
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:40,840
booming slapshot IQ low panic level,
very poised under pressure for checking decent.

900
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:45,519
Not the most physical defender, but
will put in the work and the

901
00:56:45,599 --> 00:56:50,639
defense is a positive. Something he's
really improved since he joined the Rain in

902
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,760
the AHL. Good gap control,
great use of his stick to take away

903
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:59,639
passing and shooting lanes. An asset
at one on one battles, especially in

904
00:56:59,679 --> 00:57:02,000
front of the net, so the
best asset was the puck handling. The

905
00:57:02,039 --> 00:57:07,719
biggest concern is the physicality. While
the defensive games come along, he still

906
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:12,239
needs to work on his physicality and
continue getting stronger. Best case scenario,

907
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:17,159
Brank Clark is a number one defenseman
who can play in every situation fiftieth percentile

908
00:57:17,239 --> 00:57:22,960
outcome. The worst case would be
solid top four, top six defenseman with

909
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:28,719
good offensive tools and a decent defensive
game. Stylistic comparable look no further than

910
00:57:29,079 --> 00:57:35,119
Grew Dowdy. He is a dynamic
offensive defenseman in some with brilliant puck skills.

911
00:57:35,159 --> 00:57:37,239
High Hockey IQ sees the ice well, isn't afraid to jump in on

912
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:42,519
the offense. Two way game has
come a long way become more responsible in

913
00:57:42,519 --> 00:57:45,840
his own in by providing great gap
control an excellent man on man coverage.

914
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:52,000
He'll need to continue getting strong and
provide more physicality to fulfill the potential of

915
00:57:52,039 --> 00:57:54,320
being the number one defenseman in the
NHL. I'm ready to run through a

916
00:57:54,360 --> 00:58:00,639
wall, Jacob. That's great stuff, and our buddy Mason, the NHL

917
00:58:00,719 --> 00:58:04,880
Rankking, put out the poll.
Put out the call Brent Clark versus Olin

918
00:58:05,079 --> 00:58:08,480
Zelweger. Another one of the top
defensive prospects, and Clark won this one

919
00:58:08,519 --> 00:58:14,000
in a route sixty five to thirty
five. Victor, is that the way

920
00:58:14,039 --> 00:58:17,800
you rank them? These are certainly
two of my favorite prospect defense been going

921
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:22,480
back for years. But I remember
saying years ago that I would We've actually

922
00:58:22,519 --> 00:58:24,960
had this question exact question posed before, and I remember saying that I would

923
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:30,679
take Clark just because there are other
options in Anaheim and there's no one else

924
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:36,760
in LA. And that's even more
true now because Pamel Minchikov has completely arrived.

925
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,920
This is when we were debating Zellwegger
versus Drysdale, but obviously Drysdale has

926
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:44,880
been moved and hasn't quite worked out
the same way. But Minchikov came.

927
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:46,400
They have Tristan Leno, they have
nor Warren, they have a lot of

928
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:52,159
good defensemen in LA. Anyways,
I think even more so now than than

929
00:58:52,239 --> 00:58:54,960
before, I absolutely would take Brent
Clark here because he is the heir apparent.

930
00:58:55,639 --> 00:59:00,280
I don't know about that comparable to
Dowdy. I understand where he's coming

931
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:04,519
from. I do think that he
has the potential to be a number one

932
00:59:04,599 --> 00:59:07,960
d like Dowdy. Dowdy I think
will always be better defensively, but I

933
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:12,440
think Bran Clark will be much better
offensively. He's much more dynamic and interesting

934
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:14,960
when he runs the power play,
he offers a little bit more. So

935
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:19,320
I think it'll be see it'll be
interesting to see how close he can get

936
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,519
to being a Drew Doughty type.
When you look at the Hockey prospect team,

937
00:59:22,519 --> 00:59:27,159
between Clark and Zellweger, it's pretty
clearly Clark, but they're very similar.

938
00:59:27,639 --> 00:59:30,079
And remember that the Zelwegger was always
really young for his draft year because

939
00:59:30,079 --> 00:59:35,719
he's a September tenth birthday, So
if you regress his years, he probably

940
00:59:35,719 --> 00:59:39,400
would be the same or even higher
than Clark. Looking at Clark's other comps,

941
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:45,679
a lot of them are stars,
Victor Headman, Tody DiAngelo, Evan

942
00:59:45,719 --> 00:59:49,760
Bouchard I think is probably the best
comp here, someone who can be like

943
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:52,800
a number one d and whose defense
is probably a bit underrated. Like people

944
00:59:53,159 --> 00:59:57,440
like to poke fun at Bouchard and
say he's not good offensively, but I

945
00:59:57,519 --> 01:00:01,559
think he's actually pretty good. He's
just not incredible. He's no Rock Favor

946
01:00:02,559 --> 01:00:07,440
or even Adam Fox Victor Headman.
He's not those type defensively, but he's

947
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:10,760
pretty solid. He's probably one of
the best defensemen defensively on Edmonton, but

948
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:15,800
he's also got that dynamic offensivebility.
He's got that booming shot, the shot

949
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:19,320
that Clark does not have. But
I think Clark is more dynamic walking the

950
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:22,280
blue line and creating offensively, whereas
Bouchard definitely is more of the shot.

951
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:28,599
He makes some really good passes too. Looking at the j Freshcard twenty seven,

952
01:00:28,679 --> 01:00:30,840
twenty three percent chance of being a
star for Brent Clark in this model,

953
01:00:31,159 --> 01:00:35,000
ninety six percent chance of being an
NHL pretty much a Locke to be

954
01:00:35,039 --> 01:00:37,719
an NHLer and a really good chance
of being a star. So yeah,

955
01:00:37,719 --> 01:00:42,960
definitely big Bran Clark fan. He
his time is pretty much now, like

956
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:46,639
he has pretty much arrived. He's
played some decent NHL games and I think

957
01:00:46,679 --> 01:00:51,039
he's only going to get more next
season, so be excited about him.

958
01:00:51,079 --> 01:00:55,320
I definitely would take him between him
and Zellweger. Very good. And who's

959
01:00:55,360 --> 01:01:00,480
your need to know, Victor need
to know? Is Cohen Zeemer twenty twenty

960
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:04,039
three to third round pick, six
foot one, two hundred three pounds right

961
01:01:04,079 --> 01:01:07,880
winger. After putting up forty goals
in the WHL the year prior this year

962
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:12,480
was cut short by injury. Unfortunately. He managed to come back recently and

963
01:01:12,519 --> 01:01:15,280
contribute ten points in fifteen playoff games
for Prince George before they were eliminated,

964
01:01:15,639 --> 01:01:20,880
But overall it was a bit of
a lost season unfortunately for Zeemer, as

965
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,639
he just didn't have the number of
games. His regular season totals were well

966
01:01:23,639 --> 01:01:28,559
over point per game, so that
was nice, but hard to gauge exactly

967
01:01:28,599 --> 01:01:34,000
how much growth and development he had
because of the injury, which was really

968
01:01:34,119 --> 01:01:37,559
unfortunate. He was The other thing
I think that's always going to be a

969
01:01:37,599 --> 01:01:43,280
bit of a caveat with Zemer is
that he plays with Riley Height and Trek

970
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:45,400
Parasak was there. There was also
Zach Funk. So he's on the team

971
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:50,400
with some really high end offensive producers, and so the questions are going to

972
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:53,239
continue, like how much is he
a passenger versus how much is he driving

973
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:58,840
the play? I think that there's
some fair questions there. Looking at his

974
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:02,559
FHL player Carden, Zeemer has some
really good scoring, but actually he's a

975
01:02:02,639 --> 01:02:06,559
bit more physical than you might think. Seven out of ten in terms of

976
01:02:06,599 --> 01:02:08,480
his hits, six out of ten
for blocks. So overall, with his

977
01:02:08,519 --> 01:02:13,360
strong shots. His bashes a nine
out of ten, so strong periferal floor

978
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:15,960
for coin Zemer and really high point
production at least per sixty basis, which

979
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:20,360
is why we always do this per
sixty because even though he played a limited

980
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,639
games, you can see that he's
actually near the top of the league in

981
01:02:22,719 --> 01:02:25,519
terms of his scoring. Yeah,
nice periferle cover decent goal scoring. Let's

982
01:02:25,519 --> 01:02:30,079
hear a little bit about what makes
coen Zemer tick from URFHL scout. Cohen

983
01:02:30,239 --> 01:02:36,280
Zeemer is talked about here by Jacob
as well. The skating below average,

984
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:39,000
not much explosiveness which doesn't allow him
to pick up much speed. Same with

985
01:02:39,079 --> 01:02:43,639
cuts and edges as he falls a
step behind because there isn't much quickness.

986
01:02:43,719 --> 01:02:47,239
Passing and handling above average. Shown
flashes of nice puck skills. Not much

987
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:51,880
of a playmaker, but has the
ability to create open space for himself.

988
01:02:52,159 --> 01:02:57,400
Great quick release in his shooting off
is played with plenty of power and accuracy

989
01:02:57,599 --> 01:03:00,320
for the IQ the middle of the
road under pressure, He's got a tendency

990
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:06,000
of forcing passes to areas where there's
nobody around. However, he has shown

991
01:03:06,119 --> 01:03:10,559
flashes of poise to maneuver his way
around and create open space for himself for

992
01:03:10,559 --> 01:03:15,920
for checking. Average isn't necessarily a
workhorse when for checking, but is effective

993
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:21,159
when he puts in the work.
Likes to use physicality to knock opponents off

994
01:03:21,159 --> 01:03:24,599
the puck and the defense above Average
showed decent positioning in his own end,

995
01:03:25,239 --> 01:03:29,519
using his stick to take away passing
lanes, not afraid to play physical,

996
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,679
throws some big hits here and there. Pop asset then was the shot.

997
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:37,400
Biggest concern was the skating quickness and
agility and need improvement along with his cuts

998
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:42,880
and edges. The top outcome middle
six winger, best case scenario, improves

999
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:46,880
his skating, becomes a solid two
way winger who can occasionally score some goals

1000
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:52,519
and kill penalties. Fiftieth percentile.
Zeemer is a middle to bottom six winger.

1001
01:03:52,679 --> 01:03:58,440
That's likely where he succeeds the most. In the NHL defensive responsibilities PK

1002
01:03:59,079 --> 01:04:04,079
stylistic compare, we had Barkley good
Drow here, so victor our friend Mason

1003
01:04:04,079 --> 01:04:11,199
Black put Cohen Zemer up against Nick
Lardis of the looks like the Chicago Blackhawks,

1004
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:16,119
and the winner in that competition was
Lartis actually fifty three to forty seven.

1005
01:04:16,239 --> 01:04:19,079
Is that the way you would stack
him, Yeah, I think so.

1006
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:23,360
I really liked Lartis in his draft
season. I thought he was drafted

1007
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:27,760
sixty seventh overall by Chicago in the
third round, and I thought in terms

1008
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:30,480
of the guys left on the board, he was really solid. In terms

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01:04:30,519 --> 01:04:32,920
of his goal scoring, He's a
goal scorer. That's really his biggest thing.

1010
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:39,000
He had In his draft season,
Nick Lardis had twenty five goals for

1011
01:04:39,119 --> 01:04:44,239
Hamilton and twelve for Peterborough after the
trade, really strong. This season.

1012
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,840
He had another twenty nine goals for
now the Branford Bulldogs of the OHL.

1013
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:49,960
You love to see that goal scoring. The knock on him is that he's

1014
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:54,800
five to ten and what else does
he do off the puck. It isn't

1015
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:59,519
maybe as strong or as noticeable.
So that's the concern with Lardis is that

1016
01:04:59,639 --> 01:05:03,039
he maybe it doesn't do as much. But he's got a really good one

1017
01:05:03,079 --> 01:05:06,199
skill and I think if I had
to choose between the two, then I

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01:05:06,239 --> 01:05:12,440
definitely would take Lardis because of the
goal scoring versus Zeemer. Seems like a

1019
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:16,519
good complimentary offensive playmaker type. But
I like Lardis. Looking at some of

1020
01:05:16,519 --> 01:05:20,840
his underlying stats, He's got pretty
decent transition numbers. He's got pretty decent

1021
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:25,199
like puck battles and scoring or sorry, not puck battles, but scoring some

1022
01:05:25,239 --> 01:05:28,079
of his defensive zone and puck battle
As you might imagine, it is a

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01:05:28,079 --> 01:05:30,800
little bit lower, being a little
bit of a smaller forward, so Zeemer

1024
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:33,760
doesn't have the height issues. But
I still would take Lards. I think

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01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:36,960
that there's a better chance there.
Looking at the hockey prospecting between these two,

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01:05:38,039 --> 01:05:41,360
Zeemer started off much higher and the
star potential forty one now down a

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01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:44,400
twenty seven percent chance of being a
star, and Lards started at thirteen and

1028
01:05:44,599 --> 01:05:46,960
an update in his draft plus one
season to twenty. Really hard to up

1029
01:05:47,039 --> 01:05:50,320
your equivalency in this model, so
you love to see that for Lardis.

1030
01:05:51,079 --> 01:05:57,199
Looking at Zeemer's other comps, he's
got some decent ones like mckkil Granland.

1031
01:05:57,519 --> 01:06:00,840
Matt Coronado is one, I think
one that probably makes a lot of sense

1032
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:05,719
as Joel Ferbee as a decent,
complimentary offensive winger that wasn't maybe too exciting.

1033
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:10,800
I think that could end up working
out for Zeemer and the Kings.

1034
01:06:11,159 --> 01:06:13,880
Looking at the j fresh card,
twenty two percent chance of being a star,

1035
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:17,079
sixty four percent chance of being an
NHL or so, pretty decent numbers

1036
01:06:17,079 --> 01:06:19,320
there from the j fresh card and
overall, you know, he may be

1037
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:21,519
able to get a bargain on him
because he did have a bit of a

1038
01:06:21,519 --> 01:06:25,800
down season. So Zeemer is someone
I'd still be interested in, and if

1039
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:29,039
you can acquire him for cheap,
he could have a really strong bounce back

1040
01:06:29,079 --> 01:06:32,360
deep plus two season and you could
be all over that, all right,

1041
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:38,960
Victor, And now we move on
to our third and final prospect. Who

1042
01:06:39,239 --> 01:06:45,400
is the keep your eye on?
This would be Alex Turcott twenty nineteen fifth

1043
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:50,360
overall, very high draft pedigree five
to eleven, one eighty five pounds center,

1044
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:55,639
slash forward, winging, not sure. Hasn't played full seasons fifty five

1045
01:06:55,679 --> 01:06:59,480
games this season, thirty six this
season before thirty five two years before that.

1046
01:07:00,199 --> 01:07:03,360
His point pace has fallen behind as
he jumped in levels NCAA to AHL

1047
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:08,039
to NHL. This year. In
the AHL, his best pace was twenty

1048
01:07:08,159 --> 01:07:11,760
nine points in thirty five games.
That's really solid. He had four points

1049
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:15,159
in twenty NHL games, so certainly
not a breakout, but it was nice

1050
01:07:15,159 --> 01:07:19,880
to see him get a fair number
of NHL games, which he still has

1051
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:24,960
struggled to play that many of he
had. Two years ago he had eight

1052
01:07:25,079 --> 01:07:28,000
NHL games that was before his ELC
was kicking in. Then he had four

1053
01:07:28,079 --> 01:07:30,480
last season in twenty this season,
so it's a trickle of NHL games,

1054
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:34,280
which means he's still baby even though
he's twenty three years old. He'll be

1055
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:38,519
twenty four this season. He hasn't
really had a whole lot of run in

1056
01:07:38,559 --> 01:07:44,280
the NHL, and looking at his
FHL player card for the AHL, he

1057
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:49,000
has really strong assists for sixty that
was really good in terms of best setup

1058
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:54,039
men in the AHL. Nineteen assists
and thirty five games was really good.

1059
01:07:54,119 --> 01:07:57,880
He actually blocks a ton for a
forward. He's one of the best blocking

1060
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:01,519
forwards in the league. And his
hits, though, are extremely low and

1061
01:08:01,599 --> 01:08:05,800
his shots are below average, so
overall his bashes not great even though his

1062
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:09,840
blocks are incredible. He may be
someone you pick up as a depth blocking

1063
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,880
forward. That's not anyone who's too
exciting in fantasy. But let's hear a

1064
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:15,760
little bit more from our FHL scout
to see if we should be interested.

1065
01:08:15,479 --> 01:08:21,039
Jacob has some words to say on
Alex Turcott skating great quick strides, top

1066
01:08:21,159 --> 01:08:25,720
end speed, excellent makes him a
relentless checker at both ends of the ice,

1067
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:29,359
passing and handling middle of the road. Not much of a play driver,

1068
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:32,319
but is almost always taped to tape
with his passes. Doesn't create too

1069
01:08:32,319 --> 01:08:38,159
many turnovers. Shooting is good,
quick release on the rush. Scores a

1070
01:08:38,159 --> 01:08:41,239
lot of his goals by going to
the front of the net for tips and

1071
01:08:41,279 --> 01:08:45,319
rebounds. The IQ low panic level
very little panic in the scheme, shows

1072
01:08:45,399 --> 01:08:50,880
patience within without the puck or checking
is excellent. Strong for checker because of

1073
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:57,159
that strong skating ability, uses his
body and stick to knock his opponents off

1074
01:08:57,199 --> 01:09:01,640
the puck and defense excellent, high
work ath relentless checking, plays hard along

1075
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:05,439
the board's wins, puck battles,
loves to pressure his opponents to force turnovers.

1076
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:11,199
So the best asset NetFront, presence, and work ethic. Biggest concern

1077
01:09:11,319 --> 01:09:15,880
offensive upside. While he's a good
two way player, I've got concerns about

1078
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:19,399
how much of an impact he will
have offensively at the NHL level. The

1079
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:24,880
top tier outcome top six winger.
Best case scenario, that's if he translates

1080
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:29,520
his offensive game and becomes an excellent
second line center who can score fifty to

1081
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:34,319
seventy points while getting time on both
special teams units and the middle of the

1082
01:09:34,399 --> 01:09:39,239
road would be middle to bottom six
winger. That would be a reliable middle

1083
01:09:39,239 --> 01:09:45,000
to bottom six winger with defensive responsibilities. Stylistic comparable, we're going Brandon Hegel

1084
01:09:45,119 --> 01:09:49,800
here and Mason Black. The NHL
rank King puts Alex Turcott up against Pafol

1085
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:56,439
D'orofiev of the Vegas Golden Knights,
and the answer there, D'arrofiev in a

1086
01:09:56,560 --> 01:10:00,079
route seventy three to twenty seven percent. Victor. You got the same idea,

1087
01:10:01,159 --> 01:10:04,199
Yeah, I think so. Last
time I listened to the pronunciation.

1088
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:09,760
The very Russian way to say it
is Dodo Fiev, but we can say

1089
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:13,399
doro Fiev because we're not Victor.
You're ready to effect. I see what

1090
01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:16,279
you just did. No, I'm
very happy not being in Russia, thank

1091
01:10:16,319 --> 01:10:20,560
you. But yeah, I think
that I would pick doa Fiev. He

1092
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:28,359
is already in the NHL. We've
talked about Vegas' system being a little lacking

1093
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:30,359
and high end talent, but they
do seem to find guys like this who

1094
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:34,439
can slide into the lineup can be
productive. It's nice that you can have

1095
01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:40,239
that strong production in someone like him. I was really impressed too with his

1096
01:10:40,239 --> 01:10:43,960
goal scoring thirteen goals in forty seven
games getting thirteen minutes time on ice.

1097
01:10:44,039 --> 01:10:47,319
That's pretty outstanding. And I know
he's not the best defensively, but he's

1098
01:10:47,359 --> 01:10:53,039
not not completely terrible. So I
think that he could be someone as a

1099
01:10:53,079 --> 01:10:56,880
really nice steps option. And if
he gets more scoring, sorry, if

1100
01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:59,560
he gets more time on ice,
then I think he can really increase Dora

1101
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:02,000
Fiev increase that scoring quite a bit. So forty two point pace last year

1102
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:08,000
was based on a thirteen percent shooting
percentage and a little bit high PDO,

1103
01:11:08,359 --> 01:11:12,439
which that could all be mitigated with
taking a little bit more shots and having

1104
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:14,800
a little bit more time on ice. And I think there's gonna be opportunity

1105
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:17,720
for him in Vegas to get closer
to like maybe fifteen or so, and

1106
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:20,800
if he can do that, I
think he can get closer to fifty.

1107
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:26,920
So I like Doro Fiev Turcott.
I really like Turcott as a depth,

1108
01:11:27,159 --> 01:11:30,680
you know, post type sleeper here
because I think he seems like he's turning

1109
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:32,520
his career around. I do think
he's probably more of a middle to bottom

1110
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:36,680
six forward at this point. This
is just a classic example of LA used

1111
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:40,680
to have all these top assets and
they just held on to all of them

1112
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:44,000
instead of trading some for more immediate
help. And I think that's really a

1113
01:11:44,079 --> 01:11:47,079
lesson learned here for your teams as
well your fantasy teams. You can't just

1114
01:11:47,119 --> 01:11:49,960
hold on to all these guys forever
and expect them all to hit, which

1115
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:53,560
it seems like that's what LA was
doing, and they definitely did not all

1116
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:56,760
hit. And Turcott is one of
those examples, and he may still work

1117
01:11:56,760 --> 01:12:00,439
out well, but I don't think
his upside is fifth overall like when they

1118
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:01,960
drafted him, and part of that's
injury is part of us development. So

1119
01:12:02,359 --> 01:12:08,399
anyways, I do I would still
take a speculative that on him because I

1120
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:12,279
think there's still something there, but
I'm not sure it's quite as high.

1121
01:12:12,359 --> 01:12:16,239
One of the comps in hockey prospecting
is Elis Linholm, and we're seeing alcelin

1122
01:12:16,279 --> 01:12:20,119
Holm do pretty well now and we've
seen some highs, we've seen some kind

1123
01:12:20,159 --> 01:12:25,760
of regression in low seasons and definitely
needs to be in the right position,

1124
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:29,720
and I think that's probably the top
outcome for Turcott at this point. I

1125
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:31,680
don't know that it's super likely,
but I do think that he could end

1126
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:35,600
up being something quite similar to that. Looking at the j fresh card,

1127
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:39,960
it's pretty low. One percent chance
of being a star, ten percent chance

1128
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:43,039
of being an NHL are really pessimistic
on Alex Turcott, and I could see

1129
01:12:43,039 --> 01:12:46,439
why it's not gone super well,
but there's still some potential there. That

1130
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:49,680
is the La Kings dig. If
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1131
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:54,680
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1132
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:57,920
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1133
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