WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.400 --> 00:00:04.400 Kt r H Garden Line does not necessarily endorse any of the products or services 2 00:00:04.400 --> 00:00:10.960 advertised on this program. Welcome to kt r H Garden Line with Skip rictor 3 00:00:11.320 --> 00:00:21.760 so always smell the crazy, can you trim? Just watch him as wood 4 00:00:21.879 --> 00:00:32.240 goes. You did tell us so many pots to see bases gas and again 5 00:00:32.359 --> 00:00:43.359 you did so was couped by chicken, not a sign the sun beam and 6 00:00:50.280 --> 00:00:59.159 starting out of a tree in the bases you did. Everything is all right. 7 00:00:59.240 --> 00:01:03.560 You're listening to yard Line on a beautiful Sunday morning, and it's a 8 00:01:03.560 --> 00:01:06.359 good day for gardening. Which when is it not a good day for gardening? 9 00:01:06.400 --> 00:01:07.879 I say this all the time. But it could be hailing outside, 10 00:01:07.879 --> 00:01:11.599 it could be freezing outside, it could be hot outside. You ever heard 11 00:01:11.599 --> 00:01:15.560 of that time take care of your house plants. Time to plant plants for 12 00:01:15.640 --> 00:01:19.280 fall. Now's the time to start broccoli and all kinds of things. But 13 00:01:19.560 --> 00:01:23.760 most importantly, now's the time to get your soil right. Because for you 14 00:01:23.920 --> 00:01:27.200 to go out and buy the most beautiful plant in the world from the best 15 00:01:27.239 --> 00:01:32.680 garden center in the world and stick it, PLoP it into an unprepared plot. 16 00:01:32.719 --> 00:01:34.799 I like that. It's a lot of peas in it. It's like 17 00:01:34.840 --> 00:01:38.560 the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Plants is going to raise to your 18 00:01:38.599 --> 00:01:42.840 door, arrest you and throw you in the plant jail or something that's just 19 00:01:42.879 --> 00:01:48.599 cruel stuff. We're fortunate today we have Luis tomorrow from Heirloom Soils in and 20 00:01:48.640 --> 00:01:53.120 we are going to talk all things related to soils, organic matter, microbes 21 00:01:53.159 --> 00:01:56.920 and benefits. Luis welcome, So, good morning, good morning, Thank 22 00:01:56.959 --> 00:01:59.920 you, Thank you for having me. Yeah, I hope you're ready. 23 00:02:00.079 --> 00:02:05.239 I know in your brain is every answer to we could imagine for having better 24 00:02:05.280 --> 00:02:07.719 success with our plants. And we're going to dig through there and see what 25 00:02:07.719 --> 00:02:10.680 we can find today. Yeah, my brain is like a soil right now. 26 00:02:10.759 --> 00:02:14.000 It's got a lot of things in and going on. Yeah, you 27 00:02:14.039 --> 00:02:16.879 have a lot of electivity. Yeah, exactly. Well, for those of 28 00:02:16.919 --> 00:02:20.599 you listening, give us a call if you got any questions about soil, 29 00:02:20.639 --> 00:02:23.520 I mean maybe a technical question, you know, why is why do we 30 00:02:23.560 --> 00:02:25.120 do this? Or what works? How do you fix this? Well, 31 00:02:25.479 --> 00:02:30.400 Luis will be happy to visit with you about that. In the meantime, 32 00:02:30.439 --> 00:02:35.000 I just want to talk about getting soil ready. You know, fall gardening 33 00:02:35.039 --> 00:02:38.400 season is the best planting season of the year. Everybody gets the fever in 34 00:02:38.439 --> 00:02:42.759 the spring, and you know, we're excited about that. But my gosh, 35 00:02:42.800 --> 00:02:46.680 if you've got fruit, trees, perennials, if you've got woody ornamentals 36 00:02:46.719 --> 00:02:50.680 like shrubs and trees and woody vines and all those kinds of things fall gives 37 00:02:50.680 --> 00:02:54.080 you that headstart on next summer. That's really important. And so now is 38 00:02:54.080 --> 00:02:58.599 the time to get the soil right because before long we're hitting the prime time. 39 00:02:58.759 --> 00:03:01.719 We're fortunate here we can plan twelve months of the year, but if 40 00:03:01.759 --> 00:03:06.479 you want the best chance of success, that time is coming up. So 41 00:03:06.759 --> 00:03:08.080 tell us a little bit about what do you do you walk out there, 42 00:03:08.120 --> 00:03:13.000 you got heavy clay soil or maybe sand, whatever they have, and what 43 00:03:13.039 --> 00:03:15.159 do you do to make it a place that roots just thrive and therefore plants 44 00:03:15.240 --> 00:03:21.840 thrive. Well, we are very lucky to live in Zone nine B. 45 00:03:23.199 --> 00:03:28.199 It's a zone that by definition, you grow things from February to December. 46 00:03:28.360 --> 00:03:31.520 So you got one one month one January, one week, one week one 47 00:03:31.520 --> 00:03:37.400 week of sometimes two or three sometimes, But in this zone you can grow 48 00:03:38.080 --> 00:03:40.479 vegetables, flowering, shrubs. Like you said, all these different crops, 49 00:03:42.159 --> 00:03:47.080 and for each crop we were lucky enough to have Mark Bowen design a product 50 00:03:49.159 --> 00:03:55.000 and the design, the design of these products is based on the local and 51 00:03:55.120 --> 00:04:00.120 native soil conditions of southeast Texas, Okay, and it expands to you know, 52 00:04:00.199 --> 00:04:04.520 hill country and zone nine A, which is a little in north, 53 00:04:04.639 --> 00:04:12.919 which is a five degree you know buffer. The number one thing I look 54 00:04:12.960 --> 00:04:16.480 at when I create social media videos and content is going to be the compaction 55 00:04:17.240 --> 00:04:21.040 of the of the soils, because compaction is our enemy. It is, 56 00:04:21.160 --> 00:04:27.839 right, And one other ways I explain compaction with clay particles is clay particles 57 00:04:27.879 --> 00:04:30.680 bond. And if you I always explained it this way. If you have 58 00:04:30.720 --> 00:04:34.360 teenagers at home and you want to prevent them from like dating somebody, you 59 00:04:34.399 --> 00:04:41.160 don't want them to date kissing, right, I'm getting or kissing. You're 60 00:04:41.199 --> 00:04:45.879 the parent in between these two these two individuals, these two individuals being the 61 00:04:45.879 --> 00:04:48.680 clay particles. So you're the disruptor, and a lot of a lot of 62 00:04:49.000 --> 00:04:54.399 you know, and in general, most of us don't understand what the disruption 63 00:04:54.600 --> 00:04:57.279 is. And the disruption in this case is going to be organic matter, 64 00:04:58.199 --> 00:05:01.639 a sand particle or expand shell. Right, So once you put in that 65 00:05:01.839 --> 00:05:08.199 organic matter or that expanded shell. Primarily you prevent those clay particles from bonding 66 00:05:08.920 --> 00:05:11.920 and then you start losing the soil. Yeah, so that was number one. 67 00:05:12.519 --> 00:05:17.160 That is the number one foundation for taking care of that compacted area. 68 00:05:17.480 --> 00:05:21.360 And then we start looking at the horizons or the layers of the soil. 69 00:05:23.079 --> 00:05:28.360 So then we start adding the soil designed for the use you're ultimately wanting to 70 00:05:28.439 --> 00:05:32.439 plant, whether it's a veggie, a shrub, a season of color, 71 00:05:32.480 --> 00:05:36.920 a tree, cactus, and so forth. Yeah, you get the soil 72 00:05:38.040 --> 00:05:40.879 right, and then the plant's right. You make it happy. So, 73 00:05:40.959 --> 00:05:45.319 yeah, our soil, the clay soil is so heavy and sticky, you 74 00:05:45.360 --> 00:05:49.199 know that. That's why our streets in Houston are always shifting around and water 75 00:05:49.279 --> 00:05:54.480 pipes are breaking because shrinking and swelling, and you get that stuff like organic 76 00:05:54.519 --> 00:05:58.600 matter in which is just rocket fuel. But then also you mentioned the shale 77 00:05:58.680 --> 00:06:00.839 and the expanded shay. For those that aren't familiar, I think of a 78 00:06:00.920 --> 00:06:08.560 clay product that's been fired super super hot two thousand degrees. It's expanded, 79 00:06:08.600 --> 00:06:11.199 there's pores in it. You remember the days when we have the little lava 80 00:06:11.319 --> 00:06:15.639 rock on the barbecue pit, that real you know, pitted whole rock that's 81 00:06:15.759 --> 00:06:19.519 kind of a microscopic view of what's happening with expanded shale in that now you 82 00:06:19.680 --> 00:06:24.199 can hold nutrients and water, but you keep those particles you're talking about apart. 83 00:06:24.639 --> 00:06:27.120 So the internal drainage is good. You know, it's one thing to 84 00:06:27.120 --> 00:06:30.959 have water run off the surface, but to get that water to move down 85 00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:35.040 into the soil so when it rains, you capture that free, wonderful water 86 00:06:35.160 --> 00:06:40.040 source instead of it running off down the street. Correct. And you guys 87 00:06:40.040 --> 00:06:43.000 do that, and the organic matter is great. It comes and goes, 88 00:06:43.040 --> 00:06:47.040 I mean it eventually decomposes away, but the shale stays there. So that 89 00:06:47.160 --> 00:06:50.360 combination, I think is a real wind. And you guys have products that 90 00:06:50.680 --> 00:06:55.439 do that. They they are an organic matter material like a compost material, 91 00:06:55.480 --> 00:06:59.279 but it's got that shale in it as well. Yes, if you if 92 00:06:59.319 --> 00:07:04.560 the listeners don't follow Heirloom Soils on social media, highly suggest that you go 93 00:07:04.600 --> 00:07:12.800 to Instagram primarily and follow the profile at Heirloom Soils if you scroll down. 94 00:07:13.560 --> 00:07:15.920 I don't know how many how many posts I've done since then, but it 95 00:07:15.959 --> 00:07:21.959 was probably around this time last year I did a post about expanded shell where 96 00:07:23.000 --> 00:07:29.639 I put expanded shell in one glass jar, and I poured the same amount 97 00:07:29.680 --> 00:07:35.199 of volume water into the expanded shell, and I waited eighteen hours, and 98 00:07:35.240 --> 00:07:40.519 at eighteen hours, I took the expanded shell and I drained it into the 99 00:07:40.560 --> 00:07:44.639 same jar that it was full of water, and about a third of the 100 00:07:44.720 --> 00:07:49.720 jar was empty water. And that was what was absorbed and retained by expanded 101 00:07:51.560 --> 00:07:57.720 And days later I drained it again because it released all that water. So 102 00:07:57.759 --> 00:08:01.199 that's what happens inside the soil. But it also helps a lot of promotion 103 00:08:01.279 --> 00:08:03.759 with Yeah, that is that is awesome. Hey, guys, we're just 104 00:08:03.879 --> 00:08:07.920 getting into it. It's time for a heartbreak, but hang with us if 105 00:08:07.959 --> 00:08:09.800 you'd like to give us a call seven one three two one two fifty eight 106 00:08:09.879 --> 00:08:13.639 seventy four. We're going to continue that thought with Luis when we come back 107 00:08:13.759 --> 00:08:16.920 Deever in Pleasantville. You'll be first up Sandy and Cyprus. You got a 108 00:08:18.000 --> 00:08:33.279 question about potted plants and soil. We'll come to you next when we go 109 00:08:33.480 --> 00:08:41.039 wash there. I believes that eagles dirty laundry. You're listening to garden Line 110 00:08:41.080 --> 00:08:46.039 and we are fortunate this morning to be able to talk to Lewis tomorrow. 111 00:08:46.799 --> 00:08:50.320 Luis is an expert on all kinds of things when it comes to soil, 112 00:08:50.600 --> 00:08:54.120 and when you get the soil right, you got the plant right. I 113 00:08:54.159 --> 00:08:58.399 mean, think about it this way. When you put a plant in the 114 00:08:58.440 --> 00:09:01.519 ground, you're about eighty percent of the wa to success or failure. You've 115 00:09:01.519 --> 00:09:03.279 picked a sunny spot or a shady spot, and the plant's can have an 116 00:09:03.320 --> 00:09:07.639 opinion about that. You've got a spot that drains well or doesn't drain well. 117 00:09:07.679 --> 00:09:11.480 The plant's definitely gonna have an opinion about that. You've chosen the species 118 00:09:11.519 --> 00:09:15.879 that he's either adapted or not adapted to where you've put it. But most 119 00:09:15.919 --> 00:09:20.840 importantly, you've either prepared the soil so that the plant can thrive and that 120 00:09:20.919 --> 00:09:26.000 root system can expand and have a huge volume of bank account of water and 121 00:09:26.080 --> 00:09:31.320 of nutrients to be able to supply your plant, or you haven't, so 122 00:09:31.399 --> 00:09:33.559 to not prepare the soil, you might as well just get a revolver, 123 00:09:33.720 --> 00:09:37.200 fill it every chamber but one with a bullet, spin it and take your 124 00:09:37.279 --> 00:09:41.879 chances, because that's pretty much what you're doing when you don't prepare the soil 125 00:09:41.960 --> 00:09:45.120 right. All right, So I'm gonna quit talking. We're here to talk 126 00:09:45.159 --> 00:09:48.279 to Louise. First. We're gonna go out here to Debora and Pleasantville and 127 00:09:48.679 --> 00:09:54.279 Deborah, how can we help today? Oh? Helloo? And Louise, 128 00:09:54.919 --> 00:10:00.399 question to you later. I just called in that just Josh about a image 129 00:10:00.399 --> 00:10:03.440 that I sent you an email on August Assist. I haven't a chance to 130 00:10:03.440 --> 00:10:07.039 get back. Yeah, he mentioned you had an email, and I've looked 131 00:10:07.080 --> 00:10:11.360 and I don't see. I don't see woody weeds and chinchbirds is what it 132 00:10:11.440 --> 00:10:16.440 was called? D D R. Okay, I'll keep looking for it. 133 00:10:16.559 --> 00:10:20.480 Tell me about the call. So it's a it's a dark, dark woody 134 00:10:20.519 --> 00:10:22.960 weed that it's easily pulled up, and he's got a too long tap root. 135 00:10:24.000 --> 00:10:28.080 It's hard and fibrous. Okay, I'm trying to figure out what that 136 00:10:28.200 --> 00:10:33.679 is. Is it is it sort of somewhat of a like a clover looking 137 00:10:33.759 --> 00:10:41.039 leaf, like you know, three three leaflets all together. No, it's 138 00:10:41.039 --> 00:10:46.960 it's it's almost an evergreen. It's it's spiky looking. It's a very dark, 139 00:10:46.039 --> 00:10:50.399 dark green. Huh. When it's in the ground, and when you 140 00:10:50.399 --> 00:10:52.200 put you can pull it up but from the center and pull it straight up 141 00:10:52.200 --> 00:10:54.720 and get the entire tap root up, pulls up easy, all right? 142 00:10:54.840 --> 00:11:00.559 That it sounds like it may be medic or it could be a there's a 143 00:11:00.600 --> 00:11:03.960 mimosa like we that comes up like that. But I tell I've looked, 144 00:11:03.279 --> 00:11:07.000 I've looked through my emails. I don't see it. Will you re send 145 00:11:07.039 --> 00:11:09.279 it? To send it again next week? Well, I'm I'm a mini 146 00:11:09.320 --> 00:11:11.600 may Park right now. Get ready for the game. So it's kind of 147 00:11:11.639 --> 00:11:16.559 crazy. You can do the radio show and let me go to the game. 148 00:11:18.360 --> 00:11:20.600 People, Now, all right, look for Louise. Louise. I 149 00:11:20.639 --> 00:11:24.519 didn't know y'all were going to compact to soil. Louise gave me a Randy 150 00:11:24.559 --> 00:11:28.639 Limon T shirt months ago. I don't know if he remembers, and uh 151 00:11:31.200 --> 00:11:35.240 and I cried, yep, yes, I remember you. Absolutely. You 152 00:11:35.279 --> 00:11:39.279 are lovely, lovely compact to soil. I have people that put a fence 153 00:11:39.320 --> 00:11:43.440 in my backyard and they dug up all the clay and wanted me to spread 154 00:11:43.480 --> 00:11:48.679 it in my grass new way. What do I do for that? I'm 155 00:11:48.679 --> 00:11:50.879 gonna do till and feel and we saw it because it's all clay back there. 156 00:11:50.879 --> 00:11:54.840 Now, Yeah, you want to you want to core ariate first, 157 00:11:54.879 --> 00:11:58.360 and then you want to spread compost and night of an inch to a quarter 158 00:11:58.440 --> 00:12:03.399 of an inch at most and just work it in maybe two to three times 159 00:12:03.440 --> 00:12:07.759 a year and wait for that area to turn around and and that's how you'll 160 00:12:07.799 --> 00:12:09.799 soften it up. Well, kay, well that's what I will do. 161 00:12:11.039 --> 00:12:13.080 Well, let's wait. I got to get on in here. We got 162 00:12:13.519 --> 00:12:16.639 everybody, get all right, Debrah, Hey, thanks for all ghost stros 163 00:12:16.960 --> 00:12:20.159 yell for me while you're yelling for you. All right, all right, 164 00:12:20.240 --> 00:12:26.000 go bye, alright, bye bye. Appreciate that call. Uh luis you 165 00:12:26.080 --> 00:12:31.200 were talking about We were talking about getting so prepared in the importance of that 166 00:12:31.320 --> 00:12:35.440 and some of the steps. We talked about organic matter and shale. What 167 00:12:35.600 --> 00:12:39.840 are some other aspects of preparing a quality bed some some of the ingredients too. 168 00:12:41.000 --> 00:12:45.080 Yeah. So I made a video not too long ago posted on social 169 00:12:45.120 --> 00:12:48.679 media called da excuse me, It's better to plant plant in a five dollar 170 00:12:48.759 --> 00:12:52.919 hole? Yeah, you know, plant at one dollar plant in a five 171 00:12:52.960 --> 00:12:56.000 dollar hole versus the five dollar planet in a one dollar hole. So what 172 00:12:56.080 --> 00:12:58.440 you really want to do is you want to prepare the soil. Number one, 173 00:13:00.279 --> 00:13:03.080 take care of the compaction, which is going to happen over time. 174 00:13:03.120 --> 00:13:07.960 It's not gonna happen right now. Number two, you talk about we talk 175 00:13:07.000 --> 00:13:11.720 a lot about azomite, right, azomite trade minerals. That is a very 176 00:13:11.799 --> 00:13:18.240 important thing to to prepare soil. Why we look at soils and native areas. 177 00:13:18.759 --> 00:13:22.679 Think about it this way. Everybody should do this. Like your body. 178 00:13:24.000 --> 00:13:26.200 If you take care of yourself, if you have the right nutrients in 179 00:13:26.240 --> 00:13:30.639 your body, you're going to have the right nutrient uptake of the foods you 180 00:13:30.720 --> 00:13:35.320 eat, the quality of the foods. So we talk about azomite because that's 181 00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:39.320 the trace mineral that will work hand in hand with the food you're putting in 182 00:13:39.399 --> 00:13:43.960 the soil. In this case, let's talk about organic fertilizers such as microlife 183 00:13:45.039 --> 00:13:48.120 or something from Nelson plant food, and then the soil. The soil is 184 00:13:48.200 --> 00:13:52.159 the base and the foundation for those microbes to do their thing. That's their 185 00:13:52.240 --> 00:13:58.080 new home. That's how they're going to that's how they are going to interact 186 00:13:58.480 --> 00:14:01.279 with those trade minerals and that food in order to give the plant, the 187 00:14:01.440 --> 00:14:05.919 root systems the nutrient uptic it needs. There you go well, and it's 188 00:14:05.960 --> 00:14:11.039 so much easier to get the soil nutrient right before you plant than it is 189 00:14:11.120 --> 00:14:15.120 after. I mean we fertilize our lawns afterward. You know, all the 190 00:14:15.200 --> 00:14:18.399 time. We don't dig up the lawn to put fertilizer in the soil. 191 00:14:18.879 --> 00:14:20.840 But if you can get all that right and putting things like asamite down, 192 00:14:20.960 --> 00:14:24.639 making sure you're nutrient in some case you're phs right, it just gets your 193 00:14:24.679 --> 00:14:28.159 plants off to a good start. But I found that organic matter it has 194 00:14:28.200 --> 00:14:33.720 its own nutrients in it, and it also has a way of making the 195 00:14:33.879 --> 00:14:37.480 soil maybe more forgiving. Like your pH is a little out of whack, 196 00:14:37.559 --> 00:14:41.240 but you've got a good organic matter content and you're going to get the effects 197 00:14:41.279 --> 00:14:45.480 and the release of materials that provide those nutrients even when pH isn't perfect, 198 00:14:45.559 --> 00:14:48.559 you know, correct, that's just another advantage of Yeah, and so the 199 00:14:48.679 --> 00:14:54.399 organic matter component from heirloom soils, we have multiple organic matters that go into 200 00:14:54.840 --> 00:14:58.639 the products. Yeah. So the number one product we make in house, 201 00:14:58.240 --> 00:15:01.080 it's going to be leaf mall composts. How do we make this? We 202 00:15:01.200 --> 00:15:05.399 segregate leaves and we com post them for a really long time, and then 203 00:15:05.440 --> 00:15:09.200 they go through a grinding process and screening process. They turn all the way 204 00:15:09.240 --> 00:15:15.279 down to soil light consistency and that we recommend that a lot for top dressing 205 00:15:15.360 --> 00:15:16.960 lawns. But it has many other good uses. It has many other uses. 206 00:15:18.000 --> 00:15:20.080 You can use it as a mult you can use it as an amendment, 207 00:15:20.240 --> 00:15:22.240 you can use it as a top dresser. You can use it in 208 00:15:22.320 --> 00:15:26.679 many different ways. I put it in my cereal. Sometimes it keeps your 209 00:15:26.720 --> 00:15:31.200 regular Yes, it's beautiful. Good good to know. You know. The 210 00:15:31.480 --> 00:15:37.440 we talk about these organic materials, and it's almost like it's this new topic 211 00:15:37.559 --> 00:15:41.000 for a lot of gardeners. But if you think about it, forests from 212 00:15:41.000 --> 00:15:45.000 the beginning of time have been building their own soil with organic materials. You 213 00:15:45.039 --> 00:15:46.360 know, a little parrot poop thrown in here and there and to help out 214 00:15:46.440 --> 00:15:52.480 with the nitrogen content. But seriously, it's a natural way to do things. 215 00:15:52.639 --> 00:15:54.039 And you know, we can fight nature and try to work the other 216 00:15:54.080 --> 00:15:58.440 way, or we can go along with it. And and it's kind of 217 00:15:58.480 --> 00:16:00.919 cool because as a gardener, you don't have to wait eighty or one hundred 218 00:16:02.000 --> 00:16:04.639 years like a forest soil does to get developed over time. And you know, 219 00:16:04.840 --> 00:16:07.519 building a top soil and stuff, you can just move right in. 220 00:16:07.679 --> 00:16:11.440 You can buy a product or grow in, or you can just move right 221 00:16:11.480 --> 00:16:15.320 in real quick and turn your own soiled into that by adding the right kinds 222 00:16:15.360 --> 00:16:18.240 of products. Absolutely, we don't have to reinvent the wheel on that one. 223 00:16:18.480 --> 00:16:22.600 We use late leaves and organic matter decompose green waste. Yeah, those 224 00:16:22.639 --> 00:16:26.200 of you who listen to Garden Line have heard me say this before, but 225 00:16:26.080 --> 00:16:30.480 I always say, spend spend time and money on the brown stuff before you 226 00:16:30.559 --> 00:16:33.879 spend time and money on the green stuff. Meaning you go to the garden 227 00:16:33.000 --> 00:16:37.200 center. You know there's a big hibiscus with a giant red flour on it. 228 00:16:37.320 --> 00:16:41.120 Everybody wants that, But go look at those bags of the brown stuff 229 00:16:41.440 --> 00:16:45.320 that will help you have the success with the green stuff, and do it 230 00:16:45.399 --> 00:16:47.720 in that order. You can buy them at the same time. But my 231 00:16:47.840 --> 00:16:51.120 point is, don't just come home with plants. Come home with stuff that 232 00:16:51.159 --> 00:16:55.759 will help your plants succeed. Yeah. Absolutely, And and Heirloom Soils is 233 00:16:55.799 --> 00:17:00.600 a product designed for all these plants to make them perform all right and succeed 234 00:17:02.600 --> 00:17:04.279 when you have time. Let's go ahead and talk about cocoa core. Ye, 235 00:17:04.680 --> 00:17:07.400 it's between coquin people. I do want to come to that. Let's 236 00:17:07.440 --> 00:17:11.000 see, we're gonna go right now out to Cyprus and talk to Sandy. 237 00:17:11.079 --> 00:17:17.559 Sandy, I believe you have a question about potted plant soil, yes, 238 00:17:18.440 --> 00:17:27.240 I and the garden and garden soil, and when I first planted my plant, 239 00:17:27.440 --> 00:17:37.799 and then when I fertilize. Oh, now, how are the plants 240 00:17:37.880 --> 00:17:41.559 doing that you put in that soil when I I'm sorry, when I fertilize, 241 00:17:44.039 --> 00:17:48.200 they're timing together. I talked to you last weekend about my bell peppers 242 00:17:48.279 --> 00:17:52.720 being so small and turning, and you said that's normal. But what my 243 00:17:52.880 --> 00:17:57.160 question is is I have black velvet molst on top of my potted plant, 244 00:17:59.119 --> 00:18:03.200 and can I just fertilize over the malt or do I have to push all 245 00:18:03.200 --> 00:18:08.880 the molds on the side and put the soil down and then hit the pet 246 00:18:08.920 --> 00:18:12.759 a lighter down. All right, thank you. I appreciate that question, 247 00:18:12.880 --> 00:18:18.480 and I'm gonna have Louise address that. Luis, have you ever recommended putting 248 00:18:18.680 --> 00:18:25.039 a mulch on a chunky mulch on top of plant pots or what would you 249 00:18:25.079 --> 00:18:27.359 recommend to her about where to go from here? I mean, I don't 250 00:18:27.400 --> 00:18:32.839 think it's something wrong, but if in your case, I would remove the 251 00:18:33.000 --> 00:18:36.680 mulch, like, move it aside and fertilize and then move the mulch back 252 00:18:37.480 --> 00:18:41.640 on top. Why because mult creates a kind of matrix. Right, it 253 00:18:41.759 --> 00:18:45.319 locks, it looks up, Yeah, it looks up. So you want 254 00:18:45.359 --> 00:18:48.319 to you want to remove that mulch, fertilize and then put it back That 255 00:18:48.440 --> 00:18:52.680 way you have the nutrient uptake on. I mean that fertilizer SIPs through the 256 00:18:52.839 --> 00:18:57.319 soil and gives the plant the feeding. All right, does that answer your 257 00:18:57.400 --> 00:19:02.680 question? You bet? Thank you for the Thank you for that. I 258 00:19:02.720 --> 00:19:06.839 appreciate that very much. I'm gonna go ahead and head out to Kennesaw, 259 00:19:06.920 --> 00:19:11.599 Georgia. We've got Michelle with a compost ben question. Hey Michelle, how 260 00:19:11.599 --> 00:19:15.359 are you doing. Hello, I'm doing great. How about you good? 261 00:19:15.440 --> 00:19:19.920 How are you listening to garden Line or are you online or what? Oh? 262 00:19:21.039 --> 00:19:26.240 Yeah online? Okay, Well, we're glad you're listening. I'm glad 263 00:19:26.319 --> 00:19:33.160 to be listening to learning from my brother. Oh man, you know this 264 00:19:33.359 --> 00:19:36.119 guy, no clucy was gonna call, Oh my god. All right, 265 00:19:36.200 --> 00:19:37.920 sister, all right, well, let us have it. Give your brother 266 00:19:38.039 --> 00:19:41.400 the hardest question you can think of and try to stump him. He probably 267 00:19:42.079 --> 00:19:45.000 he probably owes you for something in the past, so let's hit him with 268 00:19:45.079 --> 00:19:52.839 it. Well, I love gardening, and I have two compost bends, 269 00:19:55.519 --> 00:20:03.839 and I am not sure if I'm doing something wrong with my composting or with 270 00:20:03.119 --> 00:20:10.519 my no with seating. I don't think, but I don't think my produce 271 00:20:10.720 --> 00:20:15.680 is you know that abundant? Okay, So I'm not sure when should I 272 00:20:15.839 --> 00:20:22.200 take my compost out of the band either the fault they spring, you know, 273 00:20:22.359 --> 00:20:25.680 to have a better produce, you bet. Hey, Michelle, we're 274 00:20:25.759 --> 00:20:27.279 hitting a hard break here. If you'd like to hang on, we can 275 00:20:27.359 --> 00:20:30.119 come back to that question, or I can just address it when we come 276 00:20:30.160 --> 00:20:33.960 out of break. But I appreciate that question. I was really hoping you'd 277 00:20:34.000 --> 00:20:37.240 give Louise a harder one than that, and you know, a hard time. 278 00:20:37.319 --> 00:20:41.440 I'm sure. I'm sure that we're going to take a break and go 279 00:20:41.559 --> 00:20:45.960 to the Nikki News Network right now, and in the meantime seven one three, 280 00:20:47.079 --> 00:20:49.799 two, one two five eight seven four give us a call and let's 281 00:20:49.839 --> 00:21:07.200 ask Louise a question about anything related to soil and success with plants. Well, 282 00:21:07.240 --> 00:21:11.160 good morning on a beautiful Sunday morning. Beautiful Sunday morning to get out 283 00:21:11.200 --> 00:21:14.559 and do some things in the yard this afternoon, A good day to get 284 00:21:14.559 --> 00:21:18.480 out and visit some of our great local garden centers and suppliers to get everything 285 00:21:18.519 --> 00:21:25.240 you need to have a beautiful and bountiful lawn, landscape and garden. This 286 00:21:25.480 --> 00:21:27.079 is a great time to get out and do that. I'm gonna go back 287 00:21:27.160 --> 00:21:30.640 here to Michelle in kinn. I saw, Hey, Michelle, this is 288 00:21:30.759 --> 00:21:33.880 Skip and I heard your question. So let me give a shot at what 289 00:21:33.960 --> 00:21:38.799 I think you're wanting to know. You can harvest compost at any time it's 290 00:21:38.880 --> 00:21:42.440 ready, So you just have to look at the condition. Has it fully 291 00:21:42.559 --> 00:21:47.880 decomposed to the point that you need in order to be able to harvest it 292 00:21:47.960 --> 00:21:49.720 from the ben So it's not a do it in July or do it in 293 00:21:49.799 --> 00:21:52.240 January or anything. Thing. You can harvest at any time of the year 294 00:21:52.359 --> 00:21:57.160 if it's ready. But if it's not fully decomposing, it either needs to 295 00:21:57.240 --> 00:22:02.680 be moistened to keep it voice not dry out, or it needs a little 296 00:22:02.759 --> 00:22:07.000 extra nitrogen, or it needs a little extra carbon. And so depending on 297 00:22:07.200 --> 00:22:10.119 what you've got in the pile, it may be that you need to add 298 00:22:10.240 --> 00:22:15.359 something that's a higher carbon source for example. Awesome, okay, great, 299 00:22:17.119 --> 00:22:21.119 all right, great, thank you so much. Appreciate your answer. Yeah, 300 00:22:21.519 --> 00:22:23.839 but you know, if I had a brother that was in the compost 301 00:22:23.920 --> 00:22:29.000 business and could ship me bags of compost. I think i'd call that in. 302 00:22:29.119 --> 00:22:33.559 Surely you've got some information on Luis that you could threaten him with in 303 00:22:33.759 --> 00:22:37.200 order to get that accomplished, right, Yeah, yeah, what about this 304 00:22:37.359 --> 00:22:44.359 soil so I know? All right? Yeah, so what what you want 305 00:22:44.400 --> 00:22:47.319 to do is you want to do twenty parts of carbon to one part of 306 00:22:47.400 --> 00:22:49.960 nitrogen. Usually that's finished compost twenty to one. It's called a seat and 307 00:22:51.160 --> 00:22:55.599 ratio. Yeah, we'll talk all a soil and compost offline. Yeah, 308 00:22:56.000 --> 00:22:59.480 there's some really good information online on the basics of it. If you do 309 00:22:59.559 --> 00:23:03.519 a search for composting for kids. It's a little side I put together many 310 00:23:03.640 --> 00:23:07.079 years ago and it just shows the basics. It says it's for kids, 311 00:23:07.119 --> 00:23:10.279 but it's really for anybody who wants to learn how to compost. But just 312 00:23:10.400 --> 00:23:14.319 go online and do a search for that and you can find it super all 313 00:23:14.400 --> 00:23:17.279 right, Thank you, maam, thanks for colling. I appreciate that call 314 00:23:17.440 --> 00:23:21.519 very much, so Luise. We're talking about some of the ingredients and there's 315 00:23:21.759 --> 00:23:26.160 you know, we've got the expanded shale and I want to remind people that 316 00:23:26.240 --> 00:23:30.240 when they use it, you don't want just like a particle of shale here 317 00:23:30.359 --> 00:23:33.359 and there in the soil. You want a quantity of it so it can 318 00:23:33.440 --> 00:23:37.079 really do the work. I sometimes recommend three inches of it mixed in deeply 319 00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:41.079 as you can into a heavy clay. I don't know do you have a 320 00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:45.039 variation on that. It just depends on the application, right, like you 321 00:23:45.119 --> 00:23:48.119 said, But in some of our mixes, the most expanded shoal we're going 322 00:23:48.200 --> 00:23:52.519 to see in the mixes is going to be fifteen percent volume. Okay, 323 00:23:52.640 --> 00:23:56.319 So for every one que Carter gonna half fifteen percent in Q card expand and 324 00:23:56.440 --> 00:23:59.079 that does good, but it'll be there for a long long time, so 325 00:23:59.200 --> 00:24:03.400 it'll be there, definitely, Yeah, definitely. Yeah. So expanding shell 326 00:24:03.640 --> 00:24:10.640 is when when you're when companies are extracting natural gays from the ground, they 327 00:24:10.759 --> 00:24:14.920 have to go through the shell layer and when that shell layer comes out, 328 00:24:15.000 --> 00:24:18.880 then it gets crushed and put in a kiln at two thousand degrees faring hate 329 00:24:19.799 --> 00:24:26.400 it pops like popcorn, so expands, it changes chemically and then it becomes 330 00:24:26.480 --> 00:24:30.680 very porous and light. And that's when we use it as a soil amendment. 331 00:24:30.720 --> 00:24:34.240 It was it used to be used in construction materials. To make construction 332 00:24:34.279 --> 00:24:40.480 materials lighter, but it started being used in horticulture. It's also it's also 333 00:24:40.640 --> 00:24:44.079 used a lot when you have like a rooftop garden and you don't want to 334 00:24:44.160 --> 00:24:48.160 extra weight. It's a it's a good component in that overall growing mix up. 335 00:24:48.359 --> 00:24:52.920 Yes, yes, and then rooftops is a very successful ingredient because it 336 00:24:52.039 --> 00:24:56.039 lines the soil. It also creates a lot of prosity and it holds some 337 00:24:56.519 --> 00:25:00.960 some moisture. There. You go, well, you know, we've learned 338 00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:06.359 the overtime that mining peat bogs is not a great thing when it comes to 339 00:25:06.559 --> 00:25:11.839 the carbon cycle that affects our weather and our atmosphere. It's a it is 340 00:25:11.960 --> 00:25:15.880 a limited resource. They don't recover as fast as they get mind, and 341 00:25:15.960 --> 00:25:18.319 so we're looking for other things, and coconut core is one that's kind of 342 00:25:18.359 --> 00:25:22.440 come to the forefront. You don't talk about that a little bit. Absolutely. 343 00:25:22.559 --> 00:25:29.000 So. Peat bogs primarily located in Canada, Lithuania as well. In 344 00:25:29.160 --> 00:25:33.400 Canada, they have a limited amount of peat and also they can harvest in 345 00:25:33.519 --> 00:25:37.480 certain times of year. So when it rains too much in Canada and they 346 00:25:37.519 --> 00:25:42.480 can't harvest enough, then there's a peat shortage. There's also a peat monopoly 347 00:25:44.160 --> 00:25:48.079 and certain companies in the country only use peat and they're the only ones that 348 00:25:48.160 --> 00:25:52.519 have control and they'll release it to other smaller companies that need it convenient. 349 00:25:52.599 --> 00:25:57.920 But coco is a sustainable resource. Yes, a latta coconut grown in Southeast 350 00:25:59.000 --> 00:26:03.440 Asia and now in Mexico. Okay. Now there's a carbon footprint for all 351 00:26:03.480 --> 00:26:07.519 these products because this cocoa has to be freighted in ocean freighters to the US. 352 00:26:08.240 --> 00:26:12.440 But it's compressed and depending on the quality of the cocoa, which we 353 00:26:12.640 --> 00:26:18.680 only source buffered, meaning it doesn't have high salt content, because if you 354 00:26:18.039 --> 00:26:22.720 source something that's not buffered, you will create root shock and the plant will 355 00:26:22.759 --> 00:26:26.519 die no matter why you do. Right, So we have to break down 356 00:26:26.599 --> 00:26:30.880 that cocoa, make a fluffy, wash it a little bit more although it's 357 00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:33.279 already buffered, and then we incorporate it into the soil mixes. But it's 358 00:26:33.279 --> 00:26:37.279 a beautiful product. It's silky, very light, is sustainable. There's no 359 00:26:37.400 --> 00:26:41.240 shortage of cocoa. We all drink coconut water, not all of us, 360 00:26:41.319 --> 00:26:45.039 but people drink coconut water, eat coconut you know, as an ingredient, 361 00:26:45.200 --> 00:26:49.039 and so that that byproduct of that coconut is used in. So so the 362 00:26:49.119 --> 00:26:53.680 little round coconut that everybody thinks of when they hear about coconut, it's surrounded 363 00:26:53.720 --> 00:27:00.640 by a very thick husk material that is all stringy, and that's the coconut 364 00:27:00.720 --> 00:27:06.000 core parent material that it's made out of. You mentioned it being compacted. 365 00:27:06.359 --> 00:27:08.240 It's amazing, you see, and you can see these in garden centers, 366 00:27:08.359 --> 00:27:12.960 little bricks of coconut core, and you put water on them, and I 367 00:27:14.079 --> 00:27:19.039 mean they just expand many times larger. So a little brick we'll maybe fill 368 00:27:19.079 --> 00:27:22.119 a wheelbarrow once you get water in. We get them in and pallettes and 369 00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:27.799 they're eleven pounds per brick or five kilograms, okay, and a five kilogram 370 00:27:27.920 --> 00:27:33.400 brick you put it in a wheelbarrow and you can dump five five gallon bucket 371 00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:37.519 of water and it'll expand to the full size of the wheelbarrow, which is 372 00:27:37.559 --> 00:27:41.039 almost well, not the full size, but usually anywhere between two point two 373 00:27:41.119 --> 00:27:45.160 to two point eight cubic feet, which is one block. And as long 374 00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:48.759 as there's coconuts growing somewhere in the world, which will be as long as 375 00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:53.680 time goes on, there's an unlimited supply of coco core being made available, 376 00:27:53.720 --> 00:27:57.480 so it's not a mind limited resource. Correct. Now Pete Mosque has a 377 00:27:57.559 --> 00:28:03.319 lower phot coconut can also, we can accomplish that with coconut by yeah, 378 00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:07.240 you know, treating them. We can adjust. And now nobody's lift one 379 00:28:07.279 --> 00:28:10.359 hundred and fifty years to say. It takes one hundred and fifty years for 380 00:28:10.440 --> 00:28:12.839 a peatbog to regenerate, right, right, so nobody knows. We don't 381 00:28:12.880 --> 00:28:17.440 really nobody knows. Yeah, that's a good point. Well, you're listening 382 00:28:17.480 --> 00:28:21.119 to garden Line. I'm visiting with Luis tomorrow from heirloom Soils. We're talking 383 00:28:21.160 --> 00:28:23.640 about all kinds of things related to soils. We're going to take a break 384 00:28:23.640 --> 00:28:26.200 here, Kevin, I see you out there. We won't talk about mixing 385 00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:30.480 sand with soil, and Bill and League City won't talk about bio solids. 386 00:28:30.519 --> 00:28:33.119 So we'll come back and you'll be our first two calls up seven one three, 387 00:28:33.279 --> 00:28:41.480 two, one two fifty eight seventy four. We again trying to make 388 00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:52.519 from DAGs dripping. We're again one. Hey, good Sunday morning. You 389 00:28:52.599 --> 00:28:55.759 are listening to guard Line and I'm your host, Skipwricter. We're here to 390 00:28:55.839 --> 00:28:59.359 talk all kinds of things gardening. But right now we have the fortune of 391 00:28:59.640 --> 00:29:03.119 visiting of A Luis tomorrow from Maryland Soils, and we're getting all down and 392 00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:07.799 dirty and nerdy about all kinds of things related to soil, so A products, 393 00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:11.440 how to benefit plants with the right kinds of materials and the soil. 394 00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:15.160 We're going to head out and talk to Kevin right now. Kevin, how 395 00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:21.200 can we help today? Hey, good morning guys. I got a question 396 00:29:21.279 --> 00:29:26.720 about my soil. I have zoysia. I put it in about three years 397 00:29:26.759 --> 00:29:33.279 ago, and I made sure they put it in some lethal compost and tilled 398 00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:37.640 it in and then laid down the soil. But three years later, I'm 399 00:29:37.680 --> 00:29:45.480 seeing some soil compassion where some of the grass is dying off, and I'm 400 00:29:45.559 --> 00:29:48.319 thinking, I did a soil pass. I sent it to A and M. 401 00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:55.519 And when I was doing those plugs, there was still a lot of 402 00:29:55.640 --> 00:30:02.359 clay. And I'm thinking if I if I do the aeration and then I 403 00:30:02.559 --> 00:30:06.720 backfilled that with sand. Usually when I do the aeration, I'll do about 404 00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:11.359 twice a year, and I'll put in the leakmo compost to talk dress it 405 00:30:11.799 --> 00:30:15.880 and it will fall in those holes here and there. But I'm thinking maybe 406 00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:22.640 I should do like masonry sand and then water it in and kind of chilling 407 00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:26.400 two birds with one stone, right, I'll I'll mix in the sand with 408 00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:29.799 the clay, and then I'll also be able to level out my yard. 409 00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:33.039 Okay, I'm over with a realm or so that'll help me help too. 410 00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:37.799 But what do you think about that breaking up the clay? Yeah? Why 411 00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:41.000 don't you address that? And also the types of sand that might be used 412 00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:44.720 in in soil Luis, Yeah, Well, let me ask you this. 413 00:30:44.799 --> 00:30:51.440 When do you start seeing this grass dying? It was right after spring. 414 00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:56.119 I'd take care of my grass like a golf course. And in the springtime 415 00:30:56.279 --> 00:31:00.599 it was awesome. I was getting my stripes in, you know, everything 416 00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:06.200 look great. And then as as summer rolled around, probably about I don't 417 00:31:06.240 --> 00:31:12.319 know June, I've got this strip of grass and you know, the soil 418 00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:17.400 is really hard, and when I try to get some plugs, I mean, 419 00:31:17.480 --> 00:31:21.200 it was everything I could do to get that plug in and you know, 420 00:31:21.400 --> 00:31:23.480 deep enough to get some soil to send off to A and M. 421 00:31:25.160 --> 00:31:27.759 Okay, So I'm thinking, maybe, you know, I need to errate 422 00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:33.119 again. So here's what I recommend. I don't know if you've driven around, 423 00:31:33.200 --> 00:31:37.480 but everybody's grass is looking really rough. Everything's really stressed because of the 424 00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:41.400 heat. I would core, I reate, and I would do a top 425 00:31:41.480 --> 00:31:45.200 dressing with leafmol compost again one eighth of an inch to a quarter inch max. 426 00:31:47.519 --> 00:31:52.519 Before you do the top dressing, do asamte either a microlife or a 427 00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:57.039 fertilizer of choice, but make sure it's organic and try to get your hands 428 00:31:57.279 --> 00:32:04.759 on some biochar are which is a some of that. Yeah, mix it 429 00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:08.519 all in in a spreader and spread that before you the top dressing with compost. 430 00:32:09.160 --> 00:32:13.319 So what are you going to accomplished there? You're gonna do trace minerals, 431 00:32:13.559 --> 00:32:17.400 food, something that will further ariate, and then organic matter with the 432 00:32:17.640 --> 00:32:22.480 with the legal compost, I wouldn't add any more scent to it and just 433 00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:25.279 wait and see what the results would be. But again, you're not going 434 00:32:25.359 --> 00:32:30.160 to see results immediately. We are at one hundred and five degrees every single 435 00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:35.640 day. So yeah, yeah, okay, maybe that's something I'll do in 436 00:32:35.720 --> 00:32:38.759 the springtime in preparation fall, all right, fall, good in the fall, 437 00:32:39.079 --> 00:32:42.519 fall, okay, all right, we'll do September. Thank you, 438 00:32:42.960 --> 00:32:45.039 Thanks Kevin, Thanks for that call. I appreciate that. Hope that helps. 439 00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:49.480 We're gonna head out now to Bill and League City. Bill, Well, 440 00:32:49.839 --> 00:32:52.759 understand you want to ask some question about biosolids. Is that correct? 441 00:32:54.519 --> 00:32:59.039 Yes, I do. I've been listening to your show for a long time. 442 00:32:59.079 --> 00:33:00.400 My grandmother termed me onto it back when I was a kid, and 443 00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:04.680 I'm fifty something years old, so I've just been listening for a long time. 444 00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:08.079 But I'm work in the industry. And then i have a question about 445 00:33:08.119 --> 00:33:15.000 bio solids and soil like the big soil yards you see and by mixed soil 446 00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:20.279 flower bed mixed by the yard or by the trailer load, and I'm seeing 447 00:33:20.359 --> 00:33:23.119 stuff about is you amount of like biosolids, like stuff from the sewer treatment 448 00:33:23.200 --> 00:33:30.519 plants in the soil and that type of thing. So, biosolids are very 449 00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:32.759 popular in this market. And then when I say popular, I don't mean 450 00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:37.559 like people go out and look for biosolid composts or soils, right, but 451 00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:44.519 they're just they're everywhere. Pros and cons cons. You know, it's if 452 00:33:44.519 --> 00:33:49.400 you think aut it, I call it taco bell composts because it's a lot 453 00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:52.640 of people talk about taco bell as causing an immediate reaction to your digestive system. 454 00:33:54.759 --> 00:34:00.039 And the product has to be composted a certain it has to be tested 455 00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:07.599 every two months. For biosolid compost yards, they test for fecal coliform and 456 00:34:07.720 --> 00:34:13.039 also for heavy metals. So as long as those biosolid composts yards and production 457 00:34:13.119 --> 00:34:20.079 facilities are following that testing and that procedure, then the product is already composted 458 00:34:20.119 --> 00:34:22.840 and it can be used as a soil and or you know, a compost 459 00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:29.559 or even in mulches. Most of the smaller mom and pops corner yards are 460 00:34:29.599 --> 00:34:31.480 going to have products that contain bioslids, whether they know it or not. 461 00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:37.920 And also some of the bigger companies may or may not process that. But 462 00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:42.840 I know of four companies in the Houston area which I won't mention names, 463 00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:46.719 but I know of four companies that treat sewers, lodge and bile solid. 464 00:34:46.840 --> 00:34:52.320 Another concern people have is because it's going through the system people that flush things 465 00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:57.039 down the you know, the toilet pills, medicines or I mean, who 466 00:34:57.079 --> 00:35:00.960 knows what it is, potentially could be in there right So potentially it could 467 00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:05.519 be in there through the composting process. It's supposed to get everything out through 468 00:35:05.559 --> 00:35:08.119 the screening process. It is supposed to get anything that is a foreign object 469 00:35:08.199 --> 00:35:14.480 of compost out of that pile. But so far, the industry as a 470 00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:20.000 whole. In the US, there's a group called the United States Composting Council, 471 00:35:20.599 --> 00:35:23.960 and they have a certain standard which is called the STA which is Seal 472 00:35:24.039 --> 00:35:29.079 of Trusting, of Testing Assurance, Field of Testing Assurance, and they require 473 00:35:29.159 --> 00:35:35.000 companies that compost or treat or handle bio solids to test every two months for 474 00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:38.199 again fecal coliform and heavy metals. All right, does that answer your question? 475 00:35:38.280 --> 00:35:42.320 Bill? Yeah, that is answering. I was just one thing. 476 00:35:42.360 --> 00:35:45.039 If they were regulated in any way, or let's just follow the industry standard, 477 00:35:45.199 --> 00:35:50.440 or if there is regulation and heavily regulated to treat pile solids. Hi, 478 00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:54.159 Bill, thank you. I appreciate that question very much, So Lewis, 479 00:35:54.239 --> 00:35:58.960 we're running down short on time here, but I just wanted to kind 480 00:35:58.960 --> 00:36:02.199 of open it up. What are some other aspects of this whole industry preparing 481 00:36:02.280 --> 00:36:07.519 the soil, mulching the soil, all that kind of thing that you particularly 482 00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:10.920 find interesting. So because technology keep moving us forward, Yeah, we keep 483 00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:16.960 moving forward. There is I have a kind of a I think all products 484 00:36:17.039 --> 00:36:22.360 in the commodity section right, and then in the boutique specialty section. Airloom 485 00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:27.239 soils is boutique specialty. There's a lot of products that are commodity that are 486 00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:30.079 just have a lot of filler, a lot of wood, we screen, 487 00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:32.960 we compost. When you see airloom soils, it's like you're falling in love 488 00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:37.519 because this product is just so silky, nice and it's beautiful. It has 489 00:36:37.559 --> 00:36:39.079 all these different ingredients. So I want to say, if this is the 490 00:36:39.119 --> 00:36:44.119 last thing I'm going to say today, I like for anybody interested in getting 491 00:36:44.239 --> 00:36:50.599 bulk product from Heirloom Soils or Warrants Rock and Maul shopping Importer, we deliver 492 00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:54.280 the product, send that text message through social media to us. I'm going 493 00:36:54.320 --> 00:36:58.159 to get that text message and I will give you anywhere from ten to twenty 494 00:36:58.199 --> 00:37:01.320 percent off on your purchase that includes for the product. So you're going like, 495 00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:07.960 go to Facebook or Instagram and look for what account Airlooms Soils Aloms. 496 00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:12.079 Just send us a message and whatever product you're interested in, just mentioned it 497 00:37:12.199 --> 00:37:17.159 on that message and I will contact you and real quick, what is the 498 00:37:17.239 --> 00:37:20.920 deal that you're going to provide for people to do this. I'm going to 499 00:37:21.039 --> 00:37:24.239 provide ten to twenty percent off depending on the product in bulk, not in 500 00:37:24.320 --> 00:37:28.280 bags, because bags you can find in seven different places or on Texas. 501 00:37:28.760 --> 00:37:31.360 Oh man, you're not going to do better than that. And you know, 502 00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:35.760 I say, spend money on the brown stuff before you spend money on 503 00:37:35.800 --> 00:37:37.599 the green stuff. Now we're saying, and you can save money. You 504 00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:40.440 can save money absolutely, all right. So there you heard it. Airloom 505 00:37:40.440 --> 00:37:45.760 soils on Instagram or on Facebook. Just let them know you listen to Louis 506 00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:51.880 today on garden Line and there you go. Man, you're going to stick 507 00:37:51.880 --> 00:37:53.400 around for a little bit. Absolutely, let's come back after the break. 508 00:37:53.440 --> 00:37:57.599 I would like to talk about some of the blends that are put together. 509 00:37:58.119 --> 00:38:01.400 You know, it's just compost is not equal compost, right, And there's 510 00:38:01.400 --> 00:38:05.920 a lot of variations. And we're gonna have people that have house plants and 511 00:38:05.960 --> 00:38:08.039 they want to soil for that. We're gonna have people that want maybe those 512 00:38:08.119 --> 00:38:12.880 flowering pots out on the patio. You know what's the difference there? What 513 00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:15.280 kinds of blends are available that sound good? Yeah, let's do it, 514 00:38:15.559 --> 00:38:20.559 all right. You're listening to guard Line seven one three two one two fifty 515 00:38:20.639 --> 00:38:25.119 eight seventy four. Give us a call and we'll talk soil. We're having 516 00:38:25.159 --> 00:38:30.840 a good time today visiting with Luis Tomorrow of hair loom soils, about all 517 00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:34.480 kinds of things soils. I see some folks on the line here to talk 518 00:38:34.480 --> 00:38:36.960 about other kinds of plants stuff. So if you will hang on just a 519 00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:40.880 little bit, we're gonna finish up on some soil things with Luis. Luis, 520 00:38:40.920 --> 00:38:46.440 there is a there is a lot of different blends that are put together. 521 00:38:46.719 --> 00:38:50.719 You know, it's not just like one size fits all. And so 522 00:38:51.320 --> 00:38:53.920 when someone wants something, let's say for their house plants or maybe plants on 523 00:38:54.000 --> 00:39:00.239 the patio, what are the distinctions of a soil that does really well for 524 00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:02.920 that. It's all blend. Yeah, So we created a product for house 525 00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:07.079 plants called the Works Indoor Putty Mix. It has not gained popularity yet, 526 00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:12.239 but we hope it's going to take off in the next It needs to, 527 00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:15.400 because I've used it and it's awesome. It's beautiful. It's a beautiful product. 528 00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:22.079 So the distinction is the porosity of the product and also the organic matter 529 00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:27.079 content and the size of the particle of the organic matter. For example, 530 00:39:27.119 --> 00:39:34.119 the indoor putty mix has a larger or more screened aged pine bark with more 531 00:39:34.159 --> 00:39:37.800 cocoa fiber. It also has paralyte and expanded shell, so it has a 532 00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:39.559 lot of process, lots of drainage stuff going on there, and that's so 533 00:39:39.719 --> 00:39:44.639 important because we kill more houseplants with overwatering, and it just sort of makes 534 00:39:44.679 --> 00:39:47.679 it a little more forgiving correct. And so one thing we did is we 535 00:39:47.760 --> 00:39:51.840 played with the product before we took it to market to make sure we saw 536 00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:55.800 how many nats we're going to hang out or create start. And so what 537 00:39:55.880 --> 00:40:01.239 we saw is that most based indoor putty mixes kind of get that that is 538 00:40:01.239 --> 00:40:07.519 stagnant characteristic. And then there's a bunch of ads right for outdoor patting plants 539 00:40:07.639 --> 00:40:12.639 spotty plants, we have the work spotting soil, which is a beautiful it's 540 00:40:12.679 --> 00:40:16.679 just one of the most complex soil mixes probably made in Texas. But it's 541 00:40:16.719 --> 00:40:22.280 also one of the most rounded UH mixes. You're gonna have leafmal compost, 542 00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:27.119 cure, coca core, paralyte, h pine bark, basalt rock sand. 543 00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:31.239 You also have expanded shell, humates, biochar, vermi compost, which is 544 00:40:31.719 --> 00:40:37.519 wormcastings, molasses and macraisa. I mean this thing it has everything you need, 545 00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:43.440 right everything, Yeah, and then for the fall because we're in Zone 546 00:40:43.559 --> 00:40:47.440 nine B. We the most popular products so far are the leafmo composts, 547 00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:51.559 the vegin or mix, which are going to be for all your veggies, 548 00:40:51.639 --> 00:40:54.880 your herbs, all your you know, edibles, the roses, the rose 549 00:40:54.960 --> 00:40:59.239 soil, which in the future is going to be called Roses and Bloomer Soil 550 00:40:59.440 --> 00:41:01.400 RAINCO because we call it rose soil and we know, you know, the 551 00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:05.960 Rose Society helped to prove that mix is being a good kind of mixed to 552 00:41:06.039 --> 00:41:07.800 do. But it is good for way more than rosa. Yeah. So 553 00:41:07.960 --> 00:41:12.639 our product is called multi purpose rose soil and you can actually plant veggies, 554 00:41:13.199 --> 00:41:15.400 have hanging plants, you can put it in pots, you can do it 555 00:41:15.719 --> 00:41:21.400 everything with that rose soil and it's a it's a wonderful product too. And 556 00:41:21.519 --> 00:41:24.239 our rose soil is very different than most rossels in the market. Our rose 557 00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:29.079 oil has leapmal compost, the h pine park. It also has coco core 558 00:41:29.199 --> 00:41:32.519 fiber, It has forest humans which is a fungal compost, and as well 559 00:41:32.559 --> 00:41:37.039 as expanded show on torpedo sand with basalt rock sand okay in my creisa. 560 00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:42.360 So the hashtag for heirloom soils we use on social media most often it is 561 00:41:42.440 --> 00:41:46.079 living soils because most of our products have my creisa. They're just full of 562 00:41:46.159 --> 00:41:51.599 life. If you think I'll add it in a different context, imagine walking 563 00:41:51.639 --> 00:41:55.599 into a very busy restaurant where people are dancing. That's a back of heirloom 564 00:41:55.599 --> 00:42:01.519 soils. Music in a bad music in the bag. Everybody's dancing, already's 565 00:42:01.519 --> 00:42:05.199 having a good time, at least the microbes, I'm sure down in there. 566 00:42:05.239 --> 00:42:07.480 Oh yeah, I'm singing. Yeah, all right. Well, that's 567 00:42:07.480 --> 00:42:09.360 a lot of a lot of good information, a lot of good blends and 568 00:42:09.480 --> 00:42:14.719 things. And I don't know, I just I'm a broken record. Just 569 00:42:15.159 --> 00:42:20.440 continue telling people that get the soil right first, and you'll be so far 570 00:42:20.599 --> 00:42:22.679 on your way to success. Absolutely. You know what one thing I really 571 00:42:23.320 --> 00:42:28.960 talk about, especially at the NLA Expo last weekend, this big industry expo 572 00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:34.000 we have in San Antonio, I talked about how at a garden center a 573 00:42:34.119 --> 00:42:37.599 client can come in and ask for a bag of soil, right, and 574 00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:42.639 heirloom soils is not the the cheap option. It's going to be one of 575 00:42:42.719 --> 00:42:46.320 the most higher priced options in the market because of the components. Yes, 576 00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:51.480 so I highly recommend everybody that goes to a garden center, an independent guardian 577 00:42:51.519 --> 00:42:54.199 center like i SA always fertilized for put Cannon's enchanted gardens and also you know 578 00:42:54.599 --> 00:43:00.119 water gardens and so forth. If you need to build a bed, by 579 00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:05.400 fifty percent of the product at different brand that For example, you guys advertise 580 00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:09.480 landscaper Sprite here right, buy fifty percent of your product to be landscaper sprite 581 00:43:10.079 --> 00:43:15.960 and top it off with heirloom soils. You're gonna have a great environment for 582 00:43:16.079 --> 00:43:19.840 those plants to thrive in, Okay, and you're going to cut the cost. 583 00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:25.440 But you're also going to top it off with this boutique high performing living 584 00:43:25.559 --> 00:43:30.960 soil called airloom soil. There you go. That sounds like a good plan. 585 00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:34.400 And I know you guys, you know people can buy airloom at a 586 00:43:34.519 --> 00:43:37.440 lot of places. You mentioned a couple, but all the feed stores we 587 00:43:37.519 --> 00:43:39.239 love to brag on on like Texas Feed Stop, Spring Creek Feed, d 588 00:43:39.320 --> 00:43:43.920 and d N, Tomball League City Feed Quality Feed. And then you've got 589 00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:47.440 the garden centers like Ana Plants to produce by Montgomery. You got Buchanan's Downtown 590 00:43:49.119 --> 00:43:51.360 and Channel for US and Channel. I mean we could just go on and 591 00:43:51.440 --> 00:43:53.480 on on and on. And you know, Bob has got everything ins Southwest 592 00:43:53.519 --> 00:43:57.519 Fertilizer. I mean he's gonna have it too, because there's nothing you need 593 00:43:57.599 --> 00:44:02.559 that he doesn't have. And CNMOS that's another good place. I'm probably leaving 594 00:44:02.559 --> 00:44:06.960 out five hundred places, but it's easy to find and then you can also 595 00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:08.880 do delivery, right. Yeah, I like to suit tell people about this 596 00:44:09.079 --> 00:44:14.800 Supersac deal. Supersys used to just get this big dump on my driveway that 597 00:44:14.840 --> 00:44:17.440 I had to clean up later. Yeah, So supersas are one qubic yard 598 00:44:17.480 --> 00:44:22.400 sacks. I actually started the popularity of super sax in this industry a few 599 00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:25.280 years ago when I worked a at a different place. But supersacks are very 600 00:44:25.320 --> 00:44:29.840 convenient because if you want it to buy a product which is a soil or 601 00:44:29.840 --> 00:44:32.840 a mulch, and then you also need it sandy, a base material, 602 00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:37.840 a gravel, we can all we can put all that in one order and 603 00:44:37.079 --> 00:44:40.199 take it to your driveway, drop it off and then you work at your 604 00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:45.159 own pace. If it's going to raine, you close the Supersac SUPERSYC will 605 00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:47.320 stay dry and then you open open it back up, and then you work 606 00:44:47.360 --> 00:44:51.000 at your own base. It's a beautiful thing. I've never asked this, 607 00:44:51.159 --> 00:44:54.480 But what happens to the sack afterwards? What you can use it to something 608 00:44:54.519 --> 00:44:58.280 else? Yeah, to gather leaves or something like that. You can throw 609 00:44:58.280 --> 00:45:00.039 it away, you can recycle it, or you can bring it back and 610 00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:01.920 we'll reuse it. Okay, once you buy it, it's yours. If 611 00:45:01.920 --> 00:45:04.960 you just want to return it, We're not going to give your money back, 612 00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:07.199 but you can if you just want to disposal in the right way, 613 00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:12.519 we'll take it from you and reuse it. Yeah, sounds good. Louis, 614 00:45:12.559 --> 00:45:14.920 thank you so much for taking time today to come in. I really 615 00:45:14.960 --> 00:45:16.760 appreciate. Thank You's been an honor. Thank you guys for everything you do. 616 00:45:17.119 --> 00:45:20.239 It's a pleasure. It's a pleasure, and I want to tell you 617 00:45:20.360 --> 00:45:22.840 if you guys are interested in finding out more about airloom soils, Airloom Soils 618 00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:28.519 of Texas dot com is our website. But when you're there, I would 619 00:45:28.519 --> 00:45:30.800 say one of the main reasons to go there is because they're a compost calculator 620 00:45:30.920 --> 00:45:35.639 on the site. It is so effective and so efficient. I mean to 621 00:45:35.719 --> 00:45:38.159 be honest, I don't care what soil or compost you're gonna buy anywhere, 622 00:45:38.559 --> 00:45:44.239 go to their soil calculator and just figure it out. I mean, I 623 00:45:44.360 --> 00:45:45.880 was. I was humored by the fact that it can tell you how many 624 00:45:45.960 --> 00:45:51.119 five gallon buckets of yea composter in a qubic yard. So anything you need 625 00:45:51.199 --> 00:45:54.039 to know, you'll know exactly how much you need. Yeah. So I 626 00:45:54.199 --> 00:45:59.760 designed that calculator because I knew there was a need for more information. Yeah, 627 00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:02.440 and I designed it in an Excel spreadsheet, and then I had a 628 00:46:02.559 --> 00:46:07.800 coder quoted to HTML and we posted it on the on the website. Wow. 629 00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:09.079 Well, I think is one of the most beautiful calculators out there. 630 00:46:09.320 --> 00:46:15.639 It tells, It tells you square footage, bolt products, so cubic cards, 631 00:46:15.159 --> 00:46:19.280 Yeah, that is telling bags. I mean, so everything is one 632 00:46:19.320 --> 00:46:22.360 cubic footbacks to cubic footbacks and wheel barrels. Everything you need. Well, 633 00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:22.760 there you go.