This the two seventeen Recovery podcast with Corey Winfield. I don't know why would
they sit there and watch this talk in two microphones and look at each other
and look at your faces that you give me sometimes and co hold Marnie Winfield.
In situations like that, if you take the time to weigh the pros
and cons of your involvement in something, I think this is across the board
with a lot of things in life, you know, doesn't make sense for
me in my world. It is the ninth of September twenty twenty three when
names Cory Winfield. My name is Mary Winfield. Welcome. That's two seventeen
Recovery podcast. And I was just thinking about this today. There's this guy
who does the Recovery podcast and cannot remember the name of it, but they
film it. And I remember like when he first started, he was like
in a garage or something, and it just slowly has progressed. Now he's
got like this nice little studio set. Oh yeah, yeah. I thought,
man, that's cool. I should do that, but I don't want
to. My idea of it would be like once a month because there's a
lot of work when you record it, because he doesn't just videotape it and
then just put it out there to the world like they have to edit it
and blah bl blah blah, and I just don't have time for all that.
But it feels a once a month thing. And if it was like
right now the studio here, it's better than mine he had. But I'm
just saying it's it's nice, it's comfortable. If I put some cameras on,
like we can have some people in comfortable theater seating and at a desk
and whatever, you know, like it would be more of a conversation.
Yeah, that's how I would want to do it once a month. And
I talked to Scott from the Reservation Conversation about it, and he said,
yeah, yeah, that sounds good, Scott. Scott, he says that
sounds good about a lot of things, and and I understand where he's coming
from. To commit to something, it's hard. It's hard to do because
you never know. I don't know what's coming up this week, right,
you know. It kind of gets some of those things. But with that
said, I saw something on the counter upstairs. It is eight and a
half inches by five and a half inches and it's just sitting on the counter
upstairs. Oh my official license, yeah right, yeah, for my masters
yep. So I am a licensed master social worker and the State of Michigan
sent me my official certification. You know, it's funny because it says in
there like supposedly shep was to like frame those. Yeah, those are not
very pretty. That's why the framework if you can buy different types of frames.
I mean, I'm all about. I'm all about. I'm waiting for
my diploma. Like that's going to look awesome. I mean they'll license me.
M m, yeah, I see what you're saying. It almost looks
like a title to a car, a new car, like what it's like?
Oh no, Marty, it seriously does it looks like from the like
Secretary of State? Like it's just no, I think license like titles to
cars actually look cooler than that looks because it's just like blue and with like
that typing. What do they call that? Do they call that Secretary of
State font? I don't know, because it's a font. It's the same
font that like the government uses should we start a business, I don't know,
but I'm sure it's called something, but it's always the same. It's
like the I'm in trouble font or like that this is important font. I
don't know what it is. Yeah, yeah, that's I look into that
and then we can have people start contacting you if they need a license to
start a print shop. No, so it was the sure it's hats and
licenses to seventeen Recovery. It's it's very cool. It's really it's amazing.
It came in the mailbox of our new home. I mean, that was
icing on the cake that hard work is paying off. The therapist Susan reached
out to me the other day and she heard the podcast I did the other
day on my own and about the Ashley Furniture debacle, and she's just like,
get them chairs yet, m oh, I still haven't sent them a
math problem though, like solve them. Like remember when we'rining to school and
it's like you'd have to get to the the end, le me two problem.
What do they call them? Critical thinking or fine? Thank you?
Anyway, it's fine. I wrote that out in a response on Better Business
Bureau to Ashley Furniture, and I did not see the receipt at the time
because I was like, why don't you look and see the order number.
Man like, check my order. You can see that order two sets,
And they wrote back, Nope, we attracted it, which I didn't see,
and I'm like, I'm sorry, I don't see it. And once
I did see it, after I had sent my reply with a little problem
or whatever and the math's operation and whatever, then I saw it and I
was like, oh my god, they're so stupid. They even highlight it
and it says whatever kind of crap chair we bought, which is actually they're
pretty nice. And then it said two count, so if you bought one,
it would be a two count and it says quantity too, and they're
like they highlight it. I'm like, what idiots? Is it a generational
thing? Like do I call up there and say, hey, what year
were you born? If they were born after nineteen ninety eight, I just
say, can you give me somebody else? Please? Can you give me
like somebody who was born in like eighty one, maybe eighty two, eighty
five, ninety even. I don't know, Honey's is it? Are they
all in China? Like what country are they from? Because the people that
were responding were in Milwaukee. I don't know. I'm a fan of Wisconsin.
People are well sometimes I am to listen to this podcast, I guess,
and they're and recovery that I'm a fan. But well, you just
need to do what you You can't let the little things like this absorb all
that much energy. I mean, you've done everything you can do, You've
made your case. You're in the right. They're not, like, well,
who do I track down from the company like that has the IQ over
eighty? I don't know the answer to that. I don't know either.
But if you're losing sleep over it any more sleep over it, then we're
gonna have to work on having you figure out a way to let go of
that I want my chairs. We might end up having to just no,
we are not buying other chairs. We will send that whole setback in all
right to all if you listening, We're gonna work on this situation. But
or we just like if they don't end up saying honoring it, then we
just end up with only two chairs for like the rest of our lives.
With the table. Smash smash smash, just start over smash them. We
tell them that they were damaged and come get them when we order from Big
Lots. I don't know that anyway, I don't really want to the point
was, Susan reached out to me the other day. There you go,
and that was nice. She said congrats, and she's like, oh my
gosh, you guys got a house. That's amazing. Yeah, and Susan
and it's funny because when I was at so we're living in Boyne City,
fresh out of treatment, one of the qualifications to be and so we're living
at Nathan's house. You had to get a therapist, you had you had
to do all this extra stuff you know that you should be doing anyway.
And since I was on Medicaid, it's like, okay, it's not out
of my dime. I just gotta go see this person. And so Susan
remembers from the very start when I came in there and when I was telling
her here's what I'm gonna do, you know, like she she has like
witnessed the whole groundwork of it all. And then you know, meeting you
and talking about you and how I like you and this and that and I'm
afraid and I got no money and I got nothing to offer and like all
that stuff, like she has hurt. So it's pretty cool that you know,
she's still around, and I need to see when she's going to start
taking Priority health. But I guess technically I don't know. We'll see,
but I do need to talk to my therapist because it's been a minute.
Yeah, but I'm glad she listens to the podcast once while. Yeah,
but it is cool. Yeah, and I wanted to talk today too about
relapse. Let's just jump right into some recovery stuff, because it seems I
had many relaps around this type or time of year. And I don't know
if it's a seasonal thing where every season you can just blame it on the
season changing. It's oh, let's listen that. But as the season changed,
so does our our memories, Like our memories change, and you know,
well not our memories changing, but we start going back to the oh,
I remember the fall, and even the smell of fall, you know,
can really trigger people and send you back to a place that's either good
or bad. And you've you know, been on the front lines of this
as well, and now we're helping people in football. Football's back. That's
that's a huge trigger. That's a huge thing for people, and some might
not understand why that would be but it is, Uh, you're not feeling
good at football's on, Well you already get a little spike a dopamine,
you know, you're like, all right, football's on. That's great,
Yeah, and then what will make it better? I think the other thing
too is there's there's so much chaos that comes along with like sporting events and
things like I remember like tailgating and things like that, and like nobody's paying
attention to any what anybody else is doing, really, you know what I
mean. So it just even that whole thing like who's going to notice if
I'm drinking a couple of beers, you know what I mean, as long
as they don't get drunk. That kind of thing. Ye, yeah,
that would be That would not be an environment in early early recovery. That's
not a place even though I'm not huge into like actually attending sporting events,
but people have parties, you know what they mean, And it's a thing.
Shoot, man, I mean the commercials around it's like every single event.
Well, there's some like subway sandwiches and stuff that's football, like yay
or doritos or whatever, but nine times out of ten, that's always about
like there's always about booze there, you know, beer or whatever, and
so they just kind of go hand in hand, like you know, supporting
events. But then, like you were saying that, I was thinking about
the seasons, like you know they say like it's wedding season. You know,
that's a huge trigger for people like going attending events like that. It's
the beach, you know, those kind of things. But you're right.
I mean there's little pieces of sensory pieces of everything that can remind people of
things that increase that like you said, increase that dopelmine and make you feel
like kind of that elated piece. It's like, oh my gosh, like
this is what what? What? What? What's missing here? What am
I used to having with this feeling? Pizza? So imoust say beer and
pizza. But that's one of the things though. And the other night the
Lions were on congrats to them for their winning. Congratulations the Lions. Yes
that's a good job and thank you. And last year for giving us tickets.
I think that they might not have tickets to give this year because people
actually bought tickets to go see them at this point, I'm sure, but
we still do appreciate going last year and taking a group of people and so
we're living. So thanks again to the lions, and yeah, congrats on
the wind. But we had pizza. You know, that's something that again
despike that dopemine a little bit. We watched Survivor, we'd like to have
popcorn, you know, add that little something to make it a little bit
better. And maybe the Survivor is not even it. Maybe it's just I
enjoy time with you talking shit about people eating popcorn. You know, Oh
I hate that guy, Oh I hate that chick. Whatever I mean,
it's not even Survivor at all. You know, maybe it's just the time
spent with you. But we associate it with Survivor, and that is a
good time that we can sit down for an hour and eat popcorn and talk
to it about people we don't like. On surviving. No, we're mostly
like rooting for the people we do like. Yes, that's true. You
know, we spend it like that, use our good energy, I think
for the most part. But the relapse thing is real. And if somebody
does, you know, relapse, just remember relapse as a part of addiction.
You know, that's that's part of it and doesn't mean it's good doesn't
mean it's bad. What it means is what are you going to do now?
Exactly? What is what is that person gonna do? Are they gonna
keep going? They're gonna keep hiding it. And I was talking to a
guy the other day, this dreament center I went to and I'm just talking
to the group, and he said the same thing that I would say to
myself before, as I'll just do it this weekend, and you pull it
off, you get away with it. You feel like Houdini, Like,
man, see I drink. I started drinking Friday night. I drink Saturday,
and I was supposed to stop Saturday, but Donna, that's how it
went for me. But but if you can pull it off for one weekend
and then go the rest of the week, and just like, man,
my rewards at the end of the week, my rewards at the end of
the week, you're probably not gonna make it that next week. First of
all, it'll be Thursday. Like if you're like, hey, I'll drink
Friday and it'll be the same as last week, it's not gonna work.
You're gonna get to Thursday and start thinking, well, and now there's football
on, so hey, yeah, I'll start early Thursday, Friday, You're
probably gonna call in and just drink all damn day and it's gonna keep going
till Monday, and you're gonna realize that you're right back in it. Yeah,
and you had to call in again, and like, I didn't like
that job anyway. It doesn't take long, you know, for it to
get you. And it's it's very much. I think you hit the nail
on the heat on just saying that. It's about what you do after.
It's about what you do with the time after you recognize, like I was
doing well, things were great, you know, I was turning stuff.
I was turning things around, just being productive. Like I know, alcohol
is not good for me. It doesn't take me to good places. It
doesn't get me. It gets in the way of things that I love.
I'm better off without it. Whatever it is. I mean, everybody's affected
by it differently, Drugs and alcohol right done different levels. But that doesn't
make it mean. Like if you've tried for sobriety and then something happens that
you just say, forget it, I can't do it. I'm not going
to do it, you know whatever. I'm just gonna stay in my addiction,
because it's it's gonna be a domino effect. Everything else is just going
to start falling apart, you know, and doesn't take long. So like,
and it's people. I think the question is everyone asks you, like,
what do I do now? Like, Okay, this happened, what
do I do? Well? First off, I want to say to those
people. First, you're you're talking to me like or you're talking to somebody.
You know, You're admitting the fact that something something happened and you made
a mistake. You're acknowledging this is a mistake. You're not sitting somewhere still,
you know, drinking or maybe you are, but at least you're reaching
out saying, I'm in back in my back in my addiction, I need
help right And that's huge because a lot of people don't get back there right
away, you know. And so I think that speaks volumes, and so
at that point, it's like, what does it look to you? What
does it look like to you to get back on track? I don't know.
I mean for me, it would be talk to talk to other people
or listen to other people in recovery, right, go to a meeting,
talk about it, listen to other people say I have to say about what's
going on in their lives, you know, because it's like self help meetings
are not about all everything that's great, that it's about talking about stuff like
this. That's what the platform is fort to be able to talk about when
you slip, and and hopefully meaning you go to will be supportive of you
and listen, and then maybe people will follow up after your share and talk
about their experiences and how they got back on track, and then you can
learn from that and feel supported, not feel like an outcast like I feel
shamed, and I feel like all the work I did is gone, and
it's not gone. Otherwise you wouldn't be having this conversation. If you have
it in you enough to talk about the fact that you know you made a
mistake and that you need to try to find your way back. That's a
growth right there. It's what you do with it at that point. And
I think that there's a couple of different reasons why people realize, Like I
said, you know, sometimes it could be the season, but getting to
know the reason. For example, if you're just a guy who's like,
hey man, I want to quit drinking and there's no consequences, like you're
not married, maybe you live alone, your job's all right, but you're
just like, man, this is getting this is getting too crazy. And
you've had like three months clean, life's getting great again, and you're just
like, man, I'm gonna drink this weekend. And then you do and
you wake up and you feel like crap, and you feel like, man,
I had ninety days. I even told my parents, you know,
because you start getting proud about it, and man, not only just what
do I do? Well? You can either keep trying to trick people until
it's out of control. But again, if you have no consequences, you
will have them. Eventually, you're gonna lose your job. You know,
your friends are gonna stop hanging out. But but it goes back to you
know, what was the reason, like the football season? Okay, that
I that I have the three months and I needed that reward and I deserved
it. Well, I don't go slamming my dick in the door when I
need a reward. I don't try to put my head through a wall.
That's what you're doing. Drinking is not fun. You know, the brain
will trick you into thinking, oh yeah, you need some more fun.
Hey, this will make it more fun. It doesn't make it more fun.
It's like stop smell the roses, as they say, think about really
is it. Is it more fun because you're drinking? No? Is it
more fun because you're high? No it's not, I'm telling you, but
your your brain will trick you into thinking that you are and that it is
more fun, and then you'll come down. Then you'll feel that that regret,
and and then you're you're you're just on the downward slope that goes really
fast. But if you can break it down though, and maybe it's it's
not always Hey, it's the season changing, or maybe it's not, Hey,
I need a reward because I've been doing so great and football's on and
this makes it better. Maybe you're just stuck in a horrible situation anyway.
Maybe your marriage is falling apart, Maybe your husband's dick. Maybe your wife's
beating me up. That happens, by the way, Then I'm gonna go
drink because it makes me numb the feelings. You know, it doesn't make
you feel better, but it makes you forget about them, and it makes
you feel like you can tolerate it. Right, and in those situations,
it's it's tough because I want the person not to lose their mind, but
I also want the person to have control of their own life and realize when
they need to leave a situation and change is scary. And I've had family
member recently go through a divorce and change is scary, and they're just like,
oh, and you have too. You know, both kind of way
different I think situations. But at the end of the day, it's what
makes you happy, what makes sense, and and recognizing that and reaching out
for the help that you might need, whether it be help from the state,
whether it be help from a family member, friend, therapist, whatever.
You know, you don't have to live life stuck in that fear,
right And if she's beating you up, man, leave, Oh it's easy,
but we got kids, Okay. Well, there's ways you can talk
about it, and people you can talk about it with, and they can
give you probably a lot better ideas than I can. I would say,
well, let's get get the police and here, let's go to the police
station, or let's go to somewhere in public library where she's not going to
hit me, and she might still hit me or not me. I'm just
saying the guy, and there's ways you can talk about it like that and
say here's what we're doing with the kids. And I don't know, there's
there's ways out of those horrible situations without just trying to numb the pain with
killing yourself by using drugs, because it doesn't it doesn't make that situation go
get any better. No, it's only gonna get worse. I'm gonna get
worse yep. And I mean, the funny thing is, it's like I
remember so many times when I had a little bit of time, a little
bit of time under my belt, and I like was like I'm gonna I
know, I'm gonna relapse like I had it. You know, we know
we relapsed even before we actually do it. And I almost was like inevitably,
like almost got to the point where I was like telling myself, like
this is not gonna end well. Like I was that experienced with my own
drinking that I actually knew that it was not going to end well and this
was going to be the beginning of hell again. But it's because I had
so much kind of dislike about where I was with me, like in my
life and in myself and within me, that like kind of internal conflict that
I think that I felt like it didn't matter. That just speaks to the
disease in general, and it really speaks to the root cause of alcoholism and
drug use. Right, it's a symptom of what's really happening with us.
I mean, you could have five half gallons in front of me and be
like, here's your opportunity. But if I have shit going on for me
and I'm happy with me and I'm happy with where I'm at in my life
and with my family and with my job, and with my animals and with
all the things that I have, they're free. It's there. There's nobody
stopping me here. It's yours if you want it. I know where that's
going to take me. And at this point in my life, I'm like,
there is nothing that I would that you could put in front of me
for free or even pay me to pick up that alcohol, because I know
it will take everything that I have away from me. But when you have
nothing and you are empty inside, then there's nothing to lose. And that's
when people don't feel like there's an answer and they're like, well, how
do I get to the point where I can feel like I have something to
lose that you gotta put the booze down, because once you put the booze
down for long enough and you stop using for long enough, you'll start gaining
things and you'll start and I'm not talking about things like things like computers and
cars, and I'm talking about self love and self respect and building relationships that
are meaningful. And that's where you start feeling good about yourself, good about
yourself enough that you can go and present yourself in from of somebody and ask
for a good job and get it because you have a skill set that nobody
else has. You probably have had it this whole time, but you haven't
any able to utilize it because you've been too drunk or high. And then
things just start taking shape. And then when that half gallon sitting in front
of you and there's nothing stopping you, you're gonna be like, absolutely not,
because I have too much going on for me. That's that's my take
on the whole thing, not that it makes it any easier, because but
you need to be careful of those vulnerble moments when you forget that piece,
And that's what scares a crap out about about me as a human being?
Is it is it is a person that's an alcoholic, hands down, right?
I mean yeah, I identify as a person in recovery because I feel
like it's more positive way to look at things. But I am you know,
and if I pick up a drink, I will keep drinking. And
once you take the drink, then you aren't powerless. But pretty much what
you're just you're describing is having power over your addiction. And the only way
to get that is to ye have other things in your life, you know,
and how do you get them? You go, you work for them.
You know, nothing happens overnight, and it just it takes a minute,
sometimes takes longer for other people. But you can have goals, you
can have dreams. What do you want to do? What do you want
to be? Where do you want to go? Write that stuffed down?
How are you going to get there? Right right that, right next to
it? And then start? The only one holding yourself back? Well,
I don't know, I can't do this. I can't do not if you
have add too, like that, just because you don't know how to do
it, especially with internet and everything else. It's like you can figure some
stuff out pretty quick. And if you're content with your job, if you're
content with your situation, just the drinking needs to change. Well, what's
causing that or the drug use, even what's what's making you do that.
It's not fun and it's not fun anymore, especially when it gets to the
end of where you got to make a choice of live or die. It's
not fun. Nobody's doing it because it's great, right, that's you know,
we're figuring out that problem and what that is, what you're running from,
what you're hiding, what you're masking. Sometimes it's harder to figure that
out. Yeah, especially when you know you take the piece of like mental
health into consideration, and if you're really struggling with something that is a chemical
imbalance in your brain and that you don't feel right as a person, and
the only thing that makes you feel right or making not feel anything is drugs
or alcohol, and then that turns into its own problem in itself, and
that's where the co occurring comes in and they play off each other immensely.
And for you and I, like, our passion is helping other people and
doing what we do now we do help other people. And so say somebody
was molested as a child and they're just out there, you know, drinking,
and it's like that childhood trauma they've been bearing for so long that they
probably maybe even forgot that it was a big deal, huge thing in their
life. Maybe they know, but like you know what I'm saying, the
masket for so long, but maybe they got to get back to that and
maybe they can help people. They can help children, you know now that
are suffering from the same thing, so that they don't have to go down
the same road they went down. You know, there are so many different
things that people can do to help other people. And just by saying that
happened to me, I became a drug user, an addict, and I
turned it around just by saying that can help somebody else who's struggling. And
then there's you know, jobs in the field that somebody can probably get into,
and you know, that's kind of where we just started. And I
just decided to make my own stuff. Do this because it's needed, and
you'd be surprised. Other stuff that's needed that I don't know much about.
But there's other people out there. They're like, oh, we needed to
do this, and this for people that do this and this, and you
know, gambling addiction is real, and we're gonna get hopefully more involved than
that, because I feel like that just kind of gets overlooked sometimes. And
I feel really bad for those people because it's them. They're the dirty,
rotten scoundrel. They're the ones that went and lost the car or the house,
you know, like they did it. And they can't look at the
alcohol go wells because I was drunk. Oh well, it school, I
was high. They don't have that excuse, you know. And I feel
so bad for them because it's it's the same thing, man, it really
is. It's just mine was a chemical that I was using. You know.
I'm I've said this a million times, but I'm glad I've never won
at a casino. I don't know what would have happened, right if that
would have through the dopeming over and I'm like, wow, yeah, this
is great, right, But being an alcoholic, I couldn't really I'm using
air quotes here, waste my money at the casino because I had alcohol.
Don't waste my money on But if you're struggling, you can reach out for
help. And that's probably one of the toughest things to do. There's resources
on our website to seventeen Recovery dot com. You can go there church.
A lot of people talk to their preacher about that stuff. Yep. Which
I still have to call Randy back. I can't wait till we can settle
in and I just am not all over the place mentally. Now I can
start calling people back and start having normal days. And I think it's just
work from home from now on. I don't know, when you roll your
eyes and just I don't know how things would. I think that there's a
presence needed at work. It is good to have to be able to work
from home office for sure. Yeah, but they're definitely needs to be in
presence at work. I feel at the two seventeen Recovery Center, if you're
interested in attending meetings that you've never tended before, you know a NA.
And I was going to kind of get into that too, about it being
powerless over alcohol, because they in AA, you know, and I'm sure
nas those powerless over drugs. What I think that they mean is when you
are in that hell. I'm not going to speculate on what they mean.
I'm just gonna speculate when I'm talking about so I'll do that. I guess
it's not speculating and just it's more describing. When I'm talking about being powerful,
Like you said earlier, you could put ten fifths, which okay,
the same as one. Really put whatever right there in front of you and
you wouldn't touch it. That to me is you have power. You do
have power over it once you take that first drink, though yeah, then
you really don't. But you're not gonna take that first drink. So I
think changing how you and this is for people in earlier recovery. I'm talking
to how maybe even long term I guess as well. But if you change
it and start looking about you're powerful over it, you will will become powerful
over it. Not saying that you can control your drinking, right, I
can't control mine. I would assume other people are in the same situation.
If you're one of a billion people, and so am I that had this
issue, So don't try to control it because for me and a billion other
people it didn't work, right. I mean, maybe you got something we
don't, but it's not gonna work out. So don't hear me say I'm
powerful over alcohol and think that I'm saying that I can control my drinking.
It's weird. I've never really heard I mean, I agree with what you're
saying. I think it's the I have power over alcohol, not I am
powerful with alcohol, right like I have? You know what I mean?
Does that make sense? I feel like he man I have. It's like
I have power over alcohol with if I don't drink it today, I have
the power to choose to not drink alcohol. Yes, but if I if
I drink alcohol, I'm powerless over alcohol and it will take over all bets
are off. There's no controlling it. I'll just contro But but you know
how a A and like I said, and he probably says the drugs,
but they say, you know, I am powerless over alcohol. I guess
you know, Like sure, But I feel today like I'm powerful, like
if we went in there and we should do this and film it and record
it. If we're in there in black high im Corey, I'm personal recovery
and I'm powerful over alcohol. That doesn't make any sense. Why I'm powerful
over alcohol. Yeah, that doesn't make any sense. I'm powerful over alcohol
doesn't make any sense. I don't know. Maybe it's just how you're saying
it. Oh of Grace School, we should do that at it well,
I think, I think, because the thing is is that those groups are
so old, I mean the foundation of it. They started with this idea
and these were the steps, and this is what they are and this is
the reality of it all, and this is what we need to remind ourselves
of for the people to move through these steps and stay sober. And so
it is what it is. Let's not change it. It's just a kind
of a truth. It's a truth that I'm powerless over alcohol my life when
in my life, what is it powerless overallcolm lives have become manageable. So
when I drink alcohol, I'm powerless over alcohol. That's all saying. When
I'm under the in when I'm drinking alcohol, I'm powerless over alcohol, and
our lives would become unmanageable. That's where we were before anything. Maybe that's
where we are now. But for the people that are still, you know,
in their addiction, you have to realize that, yeah you are not.
So that's step one is you have to admit your powerless over alcohol and
your lives should become unmanageable. Everybody needs to do that step one. But
you are powerful over alcohol if you don't drink it, Like I don't know,
I have, I have a power to choose, I guess. And
that's what I'm talking about. Yeah, what are you talking about. I'm
just saying that it's just something that's so it's just so old, that's just
I know, so established. Yeah, don't. I'm not trying to I'm
not trying to dispute the AA steps at all. I'm not either. I'm
just saying that at a point you do have to realize that you do have
power over alcohol because you have the power to choose not to partake. That's
all I'm saying. Man, does that make sense? Yeah, that's what's
up. You know what I'm saying. It doesn't make sense. Well,
be powerful today because you do have the choice. You do have the choice,
make make a good decision, do then X right thing. If some
bad happens, if some slips, okay, you know, try to you
can try to ride it out and fool everybody again, but it's probably gonna
work out the same way it did before, but worse. Just saying just
saying there's nothing wrong with being sober. There's actually millions of things that are
great about being sober. You just have to figure those things out for yourself.
And trust me, they are out there. Just because they're not out
there today doesn't mean that they're not going to be out there in the future
for you. But you have to keep keep going to put one foot in
front of the other. Rome wasn't building the day. So I'm told,
I just keep getting more and more amazed by what happens in my life.
And I say it over and over, like, man, six months ago,
if you just said I'd be doing this here, doing this, doing
this, dude, I'd say you're a liar. And we were just talking
about it last night. I think in better midnightight before, I was like,
man, I would have just said your nuts. Four years ago,
he just said this is what's gonna be. This is where you're going to
be in four years out of a said you got to be crazy. How's
all that going to happen? That's the power and the beauty of being in
recovery is these things that just keep coming and keep coming, and you just
keep, like you said earlier, doing the next right thing. And I'd
like to do the next thing right as well. Sometimes yeah, most of
the time, try at least tow Yes, yes, so ball tomorrow,
Fantasy football. Justin's beating my ass. I started the running back from the
Lions. He's all right, and Mary Mark Andrews isn't gonna play. Mark
Andrews might not play. I know. It's what's my worry? Should I
be worried about that? Or should I worried if they do have him play
and then I don't try to football show tomorrow? Maybe we'll see to an
early morning fantasy football show live from the new studio. Anyway, Thanks for
listening, though a little bit of rambling, but hopefully there was some good
stuff in there that someone could take away from about the recovery side of things
and the addiction side of things. So thanks everybody, have a good night.
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