WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:03.919 Hey everybody, this is Less Drive. Yes, yes, I know aka 2 00:00:04.360 --> 00:00:30.160 Survivor Man and you're listening to Brian on Sasquatch Eyes. Hey there, and 3 00:00:30.160 --> 00:00:34.240 welcome back to sasquatch Ius. Thank you so much for being with us for 4 00:00:34.280 --> 00:00:36.520 the show. It is Friday. I hope he's had a great week. 5 00:00:37.079 --> 00:00:39.840 You have an amazing guest lined up for you. But as always, I 6 00:00:39.920 --> 00:00:43.320 want to start by inviting you. If you've had an encounter and you'd like 7 00:00:43.359 --> 00:00:45.560 to be on the show, shoot me an email. You can get me 8 00:00:45.560 --> 00:00:48.679 a Brian appearing on the World Productions dot Com. Can head over to the 9 00:00:48.679 --> 00:00:51.719 website, check it out, became remember there and help support the show. 10 00:00:53.399 --> 00:00:56.240 I got to sit down and talk to Fred from Alaska, and I have 11 00:00:56.320 --> 00:01:00.280 to be honest with you. Fred had some of the most hair we encounters 12 00:01:00.320 --> 00:01:06.000 with Sasquatch that I have frankly ever heard anywhere. One of the main encounters 13 00:01:06.000 --> 00:01:08.359 that he's going to talk about here, it's a situation very similar to what 14 00:01:08.480 --> 00:01:12.439 happened in eight Canyon back in nineteen twenty four. He, one of his 15 00:01:12.519 --> 00:01:17.319 elders and one of his cousins were pinned down in a cabin and they were 16 00:01:17.359 --> 00:01:19.359 surrounded by a group of Sasquatch and they had to shoot their way out of 17 00:01:19.359 --> 00:01:23.040 this situation. It's some of the most fascinating stuff that I, frankly ever 18 00:01:23.079 --> 00:01:26.920 heard. I think you're really going to enjoy this. I'll let Fred tell 19 00:01:26.920 --> 00:01:29.599 you all about that in just a second, really quickly. I've made the 20 00:01:29.599 --> 00:01:32.840 announcement. The book sale is on. The pre sale is happening. The 21 00:01:32.840 --> 00:01:36.480 book is going to be out sometime in February, but you can pick up 22 00:01:36.480 --> 00:01:38.599 your copy right now during the pre sale. It's only seventeen ninety nine. 23 00:01:38.640 --> 00:01:44.439 You're saving six bucks off the cover price. Sasquatch Unleashed The Truth behind the 24 00:01:44.519 --> 00:01:48.159 Legend. Tons of you have already purchased the book. I appreciate the support. 25 00:01:48.519 --> 00:01:49.840 I'd love for each and every one of you listening to me right now 26 00:01:49.840 --> 00:01:52.920 to get a copy of the book. I think there's something in there for 27 00:01:53.000 --> 00:01:56.359 everybody. There's a button right here in the show notes that says get Sasquatch 28 00:01:56.439 --> 00:01:57.799 Unleashed. You can click that. It will take you over to the pre 29 00:01:57.959 --> 00:02:00.840 sale. It takes you a couple of seconds and they'll ship the book anywhere 30 00:02:00.879 --> 00:02:04.040 you are. But enough of that, I know you guys are ready to 31 00:02:04.040 --> 00:02:06.480 get into it. Bread's on the line, he's ready to go. Just 32 00:02:06.560 --> 00:02:29.039 sit back, relax and enjoy the show that goes over. Welcome our guest 33 00:02:29.080 --> 00:02:30.560 to the show. It is spread from Alaska. Welcome to the show man. 34 00:02:31.479 --> 00:02:34.919 Hey, thanks for having me, Brian. I appreciate it. I 35 00:02:34.919 --> 00:02:37.000 am glad to have you. Man. So let's get right into it. 36 00:02:37.080 --> 00:02:38.960 Let's talk about this bigfoot thing. Why don't you start out with what got 37 00:02:39.039 --> 00:02:44.120 you interested in the subject to begin with. It's in my culture. I'm 38 00:02:44.159 --> 00:02:47.360 a chill Young Tribal council member from Bristol Bay, Alaska. We were raised 39 00:02:47.479 --> 00:02:53.159 with the knowledge of the hairy wrong. We were warned from a young age 40 00:02:53.199 --> 00:02:57.560 that they'll steal you and eat you. As a kid, I was a 41 00:02:57.680 --> 00:03:00.199 savvy kid. I figured out, geez, so they're just trying to keep 42 00:03:00.240 --> 00:03:04.400 me out of the woods. But at nineteen eighty three, I was walking 43 00:03:04.439 --> 00:03:07.680 back to my little treeport I was gonna go work on and I thought I 44 00:03:07.759 --> 00:03:10.800 saw one of my uncles, because he's over six foot tall. I thought 45 00:03:10.800 --> 00:03:14.919 I saw him in the willows, and I was sicking hop crap. But 46 00:03:14.960 --> 00:03:17.919 then I looked again and they was looking at me. They swayed back to 47 00:03:17.960 --> 00:03:21.840 fork a little bit and then screamed at me, and so I ran right 48 00:03:21.879 --> 00:03:24.000 back to my grandma's house. But we were raised with the knowledge, don't 49 00:03:24.000 --> 00:03:29.120 whistle in the woods, don't follow the whistles in the woods, And we 50 00:03:29.159 --> 00:03:34.400 didn't have an oral history of trading with them in the past or anything like 51 00:03:34.439 --> 00:03:39.080 that. It's always been adversarial. It was never there your friend. It 52 00:03:39.120 --> 00:03:43.280 was never anything like, it's your forest friend. We were always told go 53 00:03:43.439 --> 00:03:46.240 the other way. We see tracks, go the other way if you hear 54 00:03:46.319 --> 00:03:50.639 him, that kind of thing. And even though that one screamed at me. 55 00:03:50.960 --> 00:03:53.680 A little later that fall, we ended up going to moose Camp, 56 00:03:53.719 --> 00:03:58.240 which we would take a thirty two foot fishing boat up the Nishigak River and 57 00:03:58.360 --> 00:04:01.199 use that fishing boat as basic and take the skip around to go moose hunt. 58 00:04:02.120 --> 00:04:05.560 And it was on that trip in eighty three we ended up that Black 59 00:04:05.639 --> 00:04:09.759 Bluff which is by Angel Bay, which is at the titles on of the 60 00:04:09.800 --> 00:04:14.919 New Chigak River, and we got grounded on a gravel bar and the tide 61 00:04:15.039 --> 00:04:16.319 was going out, so we knew we were he'd be stuck there for a 62 00:04:16.360 --> 00:04:20.160 while. As we were there, some older cousins were like, hey, 63 00:04:20.240 --> 00:04:25.399 we'll take the younger ones sport fishing for salmon, to keep them busy and 64 00:04:25.439 --> 00:04:27.759 give them out of the hair because they were worried about the boat tip. 65 00:04:27.800 --> 00:04:30.199 And then they were doing some other stuff. So we hopped in the skip, 66 00:04:30.240 --> 00:04:34.120 and as we were backing away, we had heard some screaming, but 67 00:04:34.199 --> 00:04:39.000 we weren't really we're kids. We're trying to rig up our rods and reels 68 00:04:39.000 --> 00:04:42.439 and all that kind of stuff. And my dad and my uncles were waving 69 00:04:42.519 --> 00:04:45.240 us back over to the skiff, and again we were kids, not paying 70 00:04:45.279 --> 00:04:48.439 attention. But as soon as we got back up to the bigger fishing boat 71 00:04:48.480 --> 00:04:54.639 and started getting told to get off, then the screams became very abundant and 72 00:04:54.720 --> 00:04:59.720 clear, very loud, very piercing. We get inside the cab at the 73 00:04:59.759 --> 00:05:03.279 pro because they wanted us inside. Just as we got inside, rock started 74 00:05:03.279 --> 00:05:08.079 being thrown from up on Black Bluff now where we'd work, or to the 75 00:05:08.120 --> 00:05:11.279 bluff. We were about seventy yards from the bluff, and the bluff was 76 00:05:11.319 --> 00:05:15.879 about sixty feet high sixty five feet high at that point. As soon as 77 00:05:15.879 --> 00:05:19.199 we were inside the cab of the boat, the rock started throwing, and 78 00:05:19.360 --> 00:05:23.040 on the back of that boat. We had an eighth frame out of two 79 00:05:23.120 --> 00:05:27.360 by four with tark over it for our most quarters to hang on. One 80 00:05:27.360 --> 00:05:30.480 of those rocks hit so hard it knocked one of the quarters off of that 81 00:05:30.680 --> 00:05:35.639 brace beam, and that's when my uncles opened fire on it. I remember 82 00:05:35.680 --> 00:05:40.439 before they ushered us further down in where there was no windows, where the 83 00:05:40.480 --> 00:05:43.959 sleeping area is. Just before that, I remember seeing that thing fall, 84 00:05:44.600 --> 00:05:47.439 jump back up and start throwing more rocks and more shots. In the kid's 85 00:05:47.519 --> 00:05:50.920 mind, it seemed like it took forever. Honestly, I don't remember exactly 86 00:05:51.040 --> 00:05:55.439 how long that whole thing was going on, because you would hear screams, 87 00:05:55.839 --> 00:05:59.199 you'd hear rocks hit the boat, and then you'd hear another volleyed shots. 88 00:05:59.639 --> 00:06:02.800 And that went on for a while. All us kids ended up falling asleep 89 00:06:03.079 --> 00:06:06.240 and we woke up back at the harbor in the wee hours of the morning 90 00:06:06.240 --> 00:06:12.839 whenever we got there. And it's really weird in the village. Usually it's 91 00:06:12.839 --> 00:06:16.839 not talked about after it happens. There's a large superstition that you talk about. 92 00:06:16.879 --> 00:06:19.800 It'll bring them out, it'll bring them to you. It'll bring a 93 00:06:19.839 --> 00:06:24.600 bad home and bad fishing seas and someone could die. Things of that nature, 94 00:06:24.639 --> 00:06:29.800 and that still runs really strong even to this day. And I don't 95 00:06:29.839 --> 00:06:33.160 knock it, but we're in a day and time to where it's more public 96 00:06:33.199 --> 00:06:36.680 safe, you know what I mean, because there's some bad actors out there 97 00:06:36.680 --> 00:06:42.079 in the woods Man And going on through the years, we've had several sidings 98 00:06:42.079 --> 00:06:46.759 at the ferry patches, seen them at distance from Sunshine Valley, Bear Bay, 99 00:06:46.759 --> 00:06:51.279 up the Agolawalk River. The whole wood Chicks Steak Park. Literally, 100 00:06:51.439 --> 00:06:57.639 that whole place is just inundated with sidings and various things like that. We 101 00:06:57.680 --> 00:07:01.759 saw a female in ninety five. We were coming up on this alpine meadow 102 00:07:02.000 --> 00:07:05.959 and I was with a couple cousins, and we were looking for woodland caribou, 103 00:07:06.000 --> 00:07:10.120 which are a little bigger than your standard caribou, more like a rain 104 00:07:10.199 --> 00:07:14.519 geer as far as size, because caribou were small. So we're up there 105 00:07:14.519 --> 00:07:16.720 looking for some of these things. And we came up on this meadow and 106 00:07:16.759 --> 00:07:20.519 it was a bunch of dead grass. It was that strawberry blonde kind of 107 00:07:20.519 --> 00:07:24.800 colored dead grass, and it was about three and a half four foot tall. 108 00:07:25.560 --> 00:07:28.560 And as we're up there on this little bit of a bowl. We 109 00:07:28.600 --> 00:07:30.639 were up on the slightest bit of a rise in it was foot bowl, 110 00:07:30.800 --> 00:07:34.120 and then it was like the tundrug, kind of mixed with the grass. 111 00:07:34.160 --> 00:07:38.480 And then about eighty yards off to our right was the tree line going back 112 00:07:38.600 --> 00:07:42.519 down. As we're sitting there, the wind blew from behind us, and 113 00:07:42.600 --> 00:07:46.120 we wouldn't have saw this thing if that wind didn't blow. It blended in 114 00:07:46.199 --> 00:07:48.399 so seamlessly. It was like a duckling in the grass. But as soon 115 00:07:48.399 --> 00:07:53.199 as that wind blew, we saw it, and it immediately saw us was 116 00:07:53.920 --> 00:07:58.120 where we were seeing it, and she stood up. She was about almost 117 00:07:58.199 --> 00:08:01.560 seven foot tall, not very big, but she was the same color as 118 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:05.279 that grass, strawberry blond. And she screamed and then took off running and 119 00:08:05.399 --> 00:08:09.839 cleared that eighty yards and just gone. As soon as she hit the trees. 120 00:08:11.480 --> 00:08:13.800 Because of her coloring, she just disappeared. We heard her crash and 121 00:08:13.800 --> 00:08:16.600 breakthrough and stuff, but she was gone. She was out of there. 122 00:08:18.199 --> 00:08:22.319 There's gosh, there are so many different times. Let's see later on. 123 00:08:22.480 --> 00:08:26.319 Actually, a couple of weeks after that, we were coming back from Manachotac 124 00:08:26.399 --> 00:08:30.560 on the Manicota Trail on four wheelers, which is usually that's just a snow 125 00:08:30.600 --> 00:08:35.080 machine route because there's so much muskeg and marsh. We were taking four wheelers 126 00:08:35.360 --> 00:08:39.919 and we were coming back and there's about seven wheelers and there's about eleven people. 127 00:08:39.360 --> 00:08:43.399 There's about three or four real young kids, and I was in my 128 00:08:43.480 --> 00:08:46.720 late teens. Well, we get up to this point in the marsh. 129 00:08:46.799 --> 00:08:52.080 We're about the halfway pote between Manicotac and Billingham, and the lead our wheeler 130 00:08:52.240 --> 00:08:56.799 broke through the tundra in the marsh, so we were stuck for a minute. 131 00:08:56.360 --> 00:09:01.039 Now, we're in a wide open area. Off to our right hand 132 00:09:01.120 --> 00:09:03.120 side, there was some trees, but it was about one hundred yards away 133 00:09:03.120 --> 00:09:07.320 where the tree line started. So we're in a pretty wide open area. 134 00:09:07.360 --> 00:09:11.919 And it seemed out of nowhere. Off to our right at a ninety degree, 135 00:09:11.600 --> 00:09:15.600 this thing was standing out there. It was a large male close to 136 00:09:15.679 --> 00:09:18.399 ten foot tall. I would say, look gangly, like a Chewbacca. 137 00:09:20.279 --> 00:09:22.559 And it tongue popped at us. That sound you hear what they call it? 138 00:09:22.600 --> 00:09:26.799 What k not? This thing was tongue popping at us. I tongue 139 00:09:26.799 --> 00:09:30.039 popped twice. One of the kids was like, should we shoot it? 140 00:09:30.559 --> 00:09:33.120 And everyone's like no, be quiet, and then after it funk pop twice, 141 00:09:33.159 --> 00:09:37.200 it just screamed and then took off running. When it took off running, 142 00:09:37.240 --> 00:09:41.799 it was moving so fast. It was like shooting a rooster tail of 143 00:09:41.840 --> 00:09:46.080 water running across the Muskeg. It was a damned saying, because I mean 144 00:09:46.120 --> 00:09:48.600 that funk pop even at one hundred yards, you can damn there feel it 145 00:09:48.639 --> 00:09:54.279 in your chest. It was real. I's just there's so many different encounters 146 00:09:54.320 --> 00:09:58.200 like that, the ones that really stick with me and caused me to do 147 00:09:58.279 --> 00:10:01.919 the website, interactive map and all that. It happened in two thousand and 148 00:10:01.960 --> 00:10:07.360 six, because for the sake of time, I'll give you an abbreviated So 149 00:10:07.559 --> 00:10:13.279 we went up to go gold panning River Moss from a billion world so it's 150 00:10:13.360 --> 00:10:18.120 out there. We stayed at an old salmon counting tower station, which was 151 00:10:18.159 --> 00:10:20.799 basically a glorified box. It was eight foot square and it had a fifty 152 00:10:20.840 --> 00:10:24.840 stop trailer up the back bit. So we get there with all our stuff 153 00:10:24.840 --> 00:10:28.639 in this twenty two foot skiff and it was a couple hours before dark. 154 00:10:28.759 --> 00:10:31.440 We were there to be worker beasts for our elder. You know what I 155 00:10:31.440 --> 00:10:37.639 mean, that's just village life. So we unload everything, and my elder 156 00:10:37.639 --> 00:10:41.120 and my cousin. This is just four dark. We got done eating. 157 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:45.559 I was standing there and on the way up, I had just bought this 158 00:10:45.639 --> 00:10:48.840 new shotgun. It was a rifle barrel was going to be my slug gun 159 00:10:48.879 --> 00:10:52.200 friend. The brush and the rear ghost ring was off, so I was 160 00:10:52.279 --> 00:10:56.879 messing with that rear sight. Time goes by, my elders talking to us 161 00:10:56.879 --> 00:11:00.559 about how he wants how many buckets he wants from this spot, how many 162 00:11:00.559 --> 00:11:03.919 buckets from that spot so he could sluice for feedert or whatever as these book 163 00:11:03.960 --> 00:11:07.440 draw all that, and I'm messing with that site. It was about a 164 00:11:07.480 --> 00:11:11.559 half hour after dark, and the whole place just it was like a stiff 165 00:11:11.600 --> 00:11:16.360 wind hit the place. Now, this place is only eight foot square two 166 00:11:16.360 --> 00:11:20.639 by four construction five flywood, and you had an eighteen by twenty four inch 167 00:11:20.679 --> 00:11:22.799 window on either side. It was like, what the hell was that? 168 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:26.000 It wasn't the wind. And when I looked over to my left where my 169 00:11:26.039 --> 00:11:30.440 cousin was sitting, there was a gap between his shoulder and the top of 170 00:11:30.480 --> 00:11:33.120 the window, and I saw something dark moves. We're on a salmon river, 171 00:11:33.200 --> 00:11:37.080 I assumed. There he grabbed the thirty odd to six. I grabbed 172 00:11:37.080 --> 00:11:39.919 the twelve gage and we had this money in candlewak power spotlight. I don't 173 00:11:39.919 --> 00:11:43.320 know if you seen those. It took the old six bolt batteries. Anyway, 174 00:11:43.360 --> 00:11:46.039 we had one of those with a fresh battery, and so we figured 175 00:11:46.080 --> 00:11:50.039 we'll run this bear off. Swing open the door. And this door was 176 00:11:50.120 --> 00:11:54.879 just held there with the little javook in our little islet. It was a 177 00:11:54.919 --> 00:11:58.840 glorified box. So we pushed it open and we checked the riverbank site for 178 00:12:00.399 --> 00:12:05.120 no bear, and we take one step out. We're literally eighteen inches outside 179 00:12:05.159 --> 00:12:07.559 of this door. The door is still open, and I paanmed to the 180 00:12:07.679 --> 00:12:11.360 left that spotlight, and once I hit the tree line off where I left 181 00:12:11.440 --> 00:12:16.480 at about ten o'clock position, we saw three sets eye shine. They were 182 00:12:16.919 --> 00:12:22.600 very large red. They reminded me of fence post markers. Typically these things, 183 00:12:22.600 --> 00:12:26.399 when you put a light on them, they'll duck. They'll try to 184 00:12:26.440 --> 00:12:28.080 obscure their view of you and all that right, they'll try to duck it 185 00:12:28.200 --> 00:12:31.000 high. These things didn't give a rat's ass. They just stood there. 186 00:12:33.120 --> 00:12:35.519 What they look like as far as they're coloring and all that, I couldn't 187 00:12:35.559 --> 00:12:41.759 tell you because everything went the eye shine and everything within us was just like 188 00:12:41.159 --> 00:12:45.600 we duck right back in and I shut that little jaylook before what good that 189 00:12:45.639 --> 00:12:48.639 would do? So as we're standing there, it was like we had ear 190 00:12:48.720 --> 00:12:52.440 muffs on. All of a sudden, the pressure was weird. I don't 191 00:12:52.440 --> 00:12:56.200 know if you've ever been on a plane and gears haven't pucked. So the 192 00:12:56.240 --> 00:13:00.519 person standing next to you talking sounds like they're ten feet away and walking through 193 00:13:00.519 --> 00:13:03.759 a glass or something. It was very similar to that. I'm telling my 194 00:13:03.840 --> 00:13:07.159 elder, Hey, there's three sets of eye shine, and there's a hairy 195 00:13:07.240 --> 00:13:09.480 man out there. And I'm asking my cousin, did you see what I 196 00:13:09.600 --> 00:13:13.559 seen? As I'm speaking to him. All of a sudden, he's underneath 197 00:13:13.600 --> 00:13:16.559 that card table they were playing cribbage at just a moment before he had a 198 00:13:16.600 --> 00:13:20.039 death grip on the rifle. He was holding it by the barrel, in 199 00:13:20.080 --> 00:13:24.720 it like you would have paddled, but it looked like he was seizing up. 200 00:13:24.200 --> 00:13:28.440 But he was looking across the room at the window off to my right 201 00:13:28.480 --> 00:13:31.240 hand side, and me and my elder looked at each other and we looked 202 00:13:31.240 --> 00:13:35.559 down at him, and this is all happening way faster than me telling you 203 00:13:35.639 --> 00:13:39.840 about it. So when we look down at him, we see he's looking 204 00:13:39.879 --> 00:13:43.039 across at that window just less than three feet from me, because again it's 205 00:13:43.080 --> 00:13:48.159 eight foot square, no room in there. Me and my elder turned to 206 00:13:48.159 --> 00:13:52.519 look at the same time, and this thing's face was in the window and 207 00:13:52.559 --> 00:13:56.080 it was looking down at It doesn't at first, and then when once my 208 00:13:56.159 --> 00:14:00.360 head fully turned and made contact with the eye contact it turned, it looked 209 00:14:00.399 --> 00:14:03.919 right at me. I only saw from the bottom of its nose to the 210 00:14:03.960 --> 00:14:09.080 top of its eyebrow in eighteen inches. It startled me so hard. Every 211 00:14:09.120 --> 00:14:13.120 fiber in my being wanted to run away, but it was stuck in my 212 00:14:13.200 --> 00:14:16.759 skin. It was like an electrical shock. It was real stunning. This 213 00:14:16.879 --> 00:14:20.840 thing started moving after it hurled his brow and looked right at me and then 214 00:14:20.879 --> 00:14:24.799 started moving out of you. And just everything inside me was like, bend 215 00:14:24.840 --> 00:14:28.120 yourself, bend yourself. And I shot three times through the wall with that 216 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:33.159 shotgun. The loudest scream. The whole place shifted with that scream. It 217 00:14:33.200 --> 00:14:37.960 was like simultaneous. It almost took me off my feet. Remote structures in 218 00:14:39.000 --> 00:14:43.679 Alaska aren't allowed to permanent. They got to be on skids. Are easily 219 00:14:43.759 --> 00:14:46.159 movable, and so I thought it was going to push us in a river. 220 00:14:46.879 --> 00:14:52.759 It just screamed, went quiet after the shift, and my elder just 221 00:14:52.799 --> 00:14:56.200 retreated back into that little tebby area where the sleeping area was, and I 222 00:14:56.279 --> 00:15:01.320 basically sat there for more than a handful of hours. It was real stressful. 223 00:15:01.559 --> 00:15:05.840 I ended up yelling at them to help me. My cousin was just 224 00:15:07.360 --> 00:15:11.960 not useful. He was out of it. He was babbling. I tried 225 00:15:11.000 --> 00:15:15.360 to get the thirty odd six, but he had such a death grip on 226 00:15:15.440 --> 00:15:18.039 it and it was loaded. I didn't want to risk anything else happening, 227 00:15:18.039 --> 00:15:22.120 a bad or whatever, but so I sat there for hours. Honestly, 228 00:15:24.240 --> 00:15:26.919 I kept contemplating how they were going to kill me. It's hard to put 229 00:15:26.960 --> 00:15:31.840 into words, but I had to stop shaking like a leaf. I had 230 00:15:31.879 --> 00:15:35.399 to accept that I wasn't going to see the other side of it, and 231 00:15:35.480 --> 00:15:39.440 once I came to terms with my own mortality, I was able to start 232 00:15:39.440 --> 00:15:41.919 thinking it was white knuckle man. I was gripping that shotgun so hard my 233 00:15:43.039 --> 00:15:46.639 hands hurt. I had to pump that stupid Coleman lantern every once in a 234 00:15:46.679 --> 00:15:50.519 while with the white gas man, and to this day. I still can't 235 00:15:50.600 --> 00:15:54.279 have any bright light above my head or listen to that single a lamp. 236 00:15:54.759 --> 00:15:58.240 I just can't do it. It's just too much. And I sat there 237 00:15:58.320 --> 00:16:02.759 envisioning how they're going to kill me. After a little more and a handful 238 00:16:02.759 --> 00:16:07.679 of hours, my cousin started making sense again, because for the longest time 239 00:16:07.720 --> 00:16:10.960 he would babble. Every once in a while, he wet himself. So 240 00:16:11.279 --> 00:16:14.440 get him back with me, so to speech, I told him, hey, 241 00:16:14.480 --> 00:16:15.840 I shot it. It ran away. I shot it. We're okay, 242 00:16:15.960 --> 00:16:19.039 it ran off. Anything to get him back in it with me, 243 00:16:19.120 --> 00:16:23.600 because again my elder wasn't responding. I didn't have nice things to say to 244 00:16:23.679 --> 00:16:27.960 either one of them because I was sitting there freaking out. So he gets 245 00:16:29.039 --> 00:16:33.159 up, We get him changed out, and I'm asking him, why did 246 00:16:33.200 --> 00:16:36.320 you fall under the table? What happened that you fell under the table? 247 00:16:36.960 --> 00:16:40.000 And from what he told me was is as we were standing there, it 248 00:16:40.120 --> 00:16:44.240 was a little further back from the window and in direct eyesight for him, 249 00:16:44.919 --> 00:16:48.399 and it showed his teeth to him and it freaked him out. So when 250 00:16:48.399 --> 00:16:52.240 he went under the table, that's when this thing came in closer to the 251 00:16:52.279 --> 00:16:56.399 window and was looking down at him when we saw it, so he saw 252 00:16:56.399 --> 00:16:59.600 it first, it showed its teeth, freaked him out, and then I 253 00:16:59.759 --> 00:17:04.000 turned and saw it shut through the wall. So we sit in discussed for 254 00:17:04.039 --> 00:17:08.039 a while. I would say probably seven hours have gone by from when I 255 00:17:08.039 --> 00:17:11.799 shot through the wall, give or take, because it was real. In 256 00:17:11.799 --> 00:17:15.200 those moments of trauma, it seems like time slows down. You know what. 257 00:17:15.200 --> 00:17:18.799 I mean to give an exact time, I wouldn't be able to do 258 00:17:18.839 --> 00:17:22.440 it. But anyway, so once we started thinking as a group again, 259 00:17:22.599 --> 00:17:27.160 we decide we're going to make a break for the boat and maybe use the 260 00:17:27.160 --> 00:17:32.319 spotlight to see because typically we don't travel in the dark. It's just too 261 00:17:32.400 --> 00:17:37.279 dangerous on the river. But considering the circumstances, we were willing to make 262 00:17:37.359 --> 00:17:41.720 do so we formulate this game plan. When we had gotten there the anchor 263 00:17:41.799 --> 00:17:47.000 line. With the anchor it was the spoon type that kind of kicks out 264 00:17:47.039 --> 00:17:49.000 and has the two spades that against We had drug it all the way over 265 00:17:49.079 --> 00:17:52.920 into the tundra and dug it into the pundra, which there was about fifty 266 00:17:52.920 --> 00:17:57.480 feet a line or tethered. We're mitigating that end in my pocket knife. 267 00:17:57.480 --> 00:18:00.880 I'm like you got to cut that line and fuck the acre. We'll get 268 00:18:00.920 --> 00:18:06.039 out of here, formulate our game plan, and he's let's look out the 269 00:18:06.039 --> 00:18:08.599 windows and see if we can see them. So we just don't walk right 270 00:18:08.640 --> 00:18:12.720 out into a trap. So we had to kill the lamp because we're getting 271 00:18:12.720 --> 00:18:15.960 the mirrored effect from the comb lantern. So we killed the lantern and we 272 00:18:17.079 --> 00:18:19.880 beam out the river bank side and we see nothing, and believe me, 273 00:18:19.960 --> 00:18:25.519 we were looking real hard. Then we hit the side we saw the inland 274 00:18:25.599 --> 00:18:29.480 side from the river. We beamed over where we saw the three sets eye 275 00:18:29.519 --> 00:18:33.160 shine and there was nothing there. It was so quiet again the whole time 276 00:18:33.279 --> 00:18:37.079 for the start to finish it. It was like those gear muffs were on. 277 00:18:37.160 --> 00:18:41.440 And so as we're talking and we're beaming back, there was an old 278 00:18:41.640 --> 00:18:45.759 outhouse about forty feet off kitty corner, up the back corner of this place 279 00:18:45.839 --> 00:18:48.480 that hadn't been used in forever, but it was still standing. It was 280 00:18:48.519 --> 00:18:53.279 about eight foot tall. Everything out there was made with minimum cuts. They 281 00:18:53.279 --> 00:18:56.519 were odd shapes and stuff, single side proofs, that kind of thing. 282 00:18:57.119 --> 00:19:03.000 So once we get over to that outhouse, we see this huge black silhouette. 283 00:19:03.720 --> 00:19:07.599 It wasn't immediately right behind the outhouse. It was a little bit back. 284 00:19:08.680 --> 00:19:12.160 It was rough destination. I'm a partner by trade, so I guesstimate 285 00:19:12.240 --> 00:19:17.799 about thirteen or fourteen football every bit of five five and a half foot wide. 286 00:19:18.440 --> 00:19:22.200 It took us a minute to figure out what we were looking at because 287 00:19:22.240 --> 00:19:26.119 it was absorbing the light. It wasn't given into back in eyeshine, nochine 288 00:19:26.119 --> 00:19:29.680 to the hair, nothing. It was just like a big black nothing that 289 00:19:29.839 --> 00:19:33.640 was there for us. We killed that light and we ducked back into that 290 00:19:33.720 --> 00:19:38.480 little cubby and I don't know exactly how long we were tucked back in there, 291 00:19:40.640 --> 00:19:45.720 but we had barrel's crossmen with white knuckle terror. We were past crying 292 00:19:45.839 --> 00:19:48.839 half gibberis, trying to figure out what do we do now? It was 293 00:19:49.000 --> 00:19:53.240 very difficult, to say the least, It was very difficult, And stay 294 00:19:53.279 --> 00:20:02.319 tuned for more sasquatch Otasy were right back after these messages. It was dead 295 00:20:02.359 --> 00:20:04.039 quiet too. Once we took back in there, it was pitch black. 296 00:20:04.119 --> 00:20:07.359 We couldn't see our hands in front of our faces. But for whatever reason, 297 00:20:07.400 --> 00:20:11.119 we had barrels crossed and we were ready to shoot anything that made us 298 00:20:11.160 --> 00:20:15.640 sound. At that point, nothing happened. Dead quiet. So as it 299 00:20:17.000 --> 00:20:21.440 was staying quiet for a while, we started calming down and started re talking 300 00:20:21.440 --> 00:20:25.400 about this game plan, will getting to this gift. Now. As we 301 00:20:25.400 --> 00:20:30.000 were discussing things, nothing was coming with us. Just important pape works, 302 00:20:30.119 --> 00:20:33.720 Jever's linse, that kind of stuff, Ammo. Important stuff to get out 303 00:20:33.799 --> 00:20:40.240 of there, all the gold panning stuff. My elder spent two years acquiring, 304 00:20:40.319 --> 00:20:42.920 all this portable stuff. Must have had thousands of dollars worth of stuff, 305 00:20:42.960 --> 00:20:45.960 but we were leaving it all. It was irrelevant at that point. 306 00:20:47.279 --> 00:20:51.200 So once we get our game plan gone again, it seemed every time we 307 00:20:51.200 --> 00:20:56.440 were gearing up to have the gumption to make a go of it, something 308 00:20:56.480 --> 00:21:00.759 else would happen. We were sitting there talking in like rotor washed from helicopter. 309 00:21:02.039 --> 00:21:03.400 That folk sound, but it was in the near distance, and we 310 00:21:03.440 --> 00:21:07.400 started feeling it in the ground. It was one of these things, and 311 00:21:07.440 --> 00:21:11.160 it ran by the place. Hindsight, I think they were checking us if 312 00:21:11.200 --> 00:21:15.599 we were going to shoot again. I'm not sure. Again, it's speculation. 313 00:21:15.839 --> 00:21:18.960 So it runs by, feel it in the ground, and it was 314 00:21:18.000 --> 00:21:22.279 like there was other ones around the place. So as soon as the one 315 00:21:22.400 --> 00:21:26.279 ran by, other ones started running around this place. In different directions, 316 00:21:26.279 --> 00:21:30.039 and you could build the different weights just from the impact on the ground. 317 00:21:30.759 --> 00:21:33.720 You could sense which ones were heavier, which ones were lighter, or whatever. 318 00:21:33.759 --> 00:21:38.119 But they did that about four or five times over the course of fifteen 319 00:21:38.200 --> 00:21:42.400 minutes. And during the second time they did that, we could hear one 320 00:21:42.400 --> 00:21:48.599 of them snipping the trailer on the outside. It was beyond creepy. So 321 00:21:48.920 --> 00:21:53.680 that happens, it goes dead quiet again. It was really trying because when 322 00:21:53.680 --> 00:21:56.960 you're in a situation like that, your natural instinct is to run. You 323 00:21:57.039 --> 00:22:00.759 want to bolt out of there, You want to get the hell out dodge. 324 00:22:00.599 --> 00:22:04.480 But I knew better. My cousin. We had been kicking around this 325 00:22:04.559 --> 00:22:08.359 little sixteenth thingy nail since we got there. It just laying on the ground, 326 00:22:08.480 --> 00:22:11.960 was all bent up and rusty. But he was talking about, let's 327 00:22:12.079 --> 00:22:15.599 nail the door shut with that nail, and I'm like, stay with me, 328 00:22:15.680 --> 00:22:18.880 man, that nail is doing nothing. So yeah, I was trying 329 00:22:18.920 --> 00:22:22.680 to keep him from going back under the table, so to speak, because 330 00:22:22.720 --> 00:22:26.319 it was a little hit and miss there. And it was really hard because 331 00:22:27.319 --> 00:22:33.240 these aren't just weekend war years wallflowers man work from the village. We lived 332 00:22:33.240 --> 00:22:37.160 the subsistence lifestyle, you know, I mean subsistence hunting all that. It 333 00:22:37.240 --> 00:22:42.119 wasn't just something we did for fun. It was truly our life. And 334 00:22:42.160 --> 00:22:48.000 seeing him in that position was really hard. I didn't lose respect for them. 335 00:22:48.200 --> 00:22:52.680 There was bonds being broken between us because of this stuff. Anyway, 336 00:22:52.839 --> 00:22:59.279 the snipping happens, they the running around stops. How long of time went 337 00:22:59.319 --> 00:23:03.200 on, I don't know exactly, because again we were filled with terror, 338 00:23:03.240 --> 00:23:06.759 but some time had passed, it had calmed down, it was quiet. 339 00:23:06.799 --> 00:23:11.480 So we calmed down. We reinitiated our escape plan, which we were going 340 00:23:11.559 --> 00:23:12.799 to get to the skip. He was going to fire it up. I 341 00:23:12.799 --> 00:23:17.839 would help our elder down because we were on a cut bank. It's six 342 00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:22.079 m feet high off of the river and twenty feet from the front of the 343 00:23:22.119 --> 00:23:26.000 door. It felt like ten miles away. But on the cut bank, 344 00:23:26.160 --> 00:23:30.599 the grass was there and it was pretty steep. So my elder, he 345 00:23:30.680 --> 00:23:33.920 was in his mid late sixties, he wasn't, you know, like feeble, 346 00:23:34.319 --> 00:23:37.000 but he wasn't spry. He wasn't just going to get up and run. 347 00:23:37.079 --> 00:23:40.440 We're going over all that. How we're going to work it out, 348 00:23:41.319 --> 00:23:44.640 and we get right up to the door. And at this point it's starting 349 00:23:44.640 --> 00:23:48.359 to get light outside, not enough where you could fully see. The light 350 00:23:48.440 --> 00:23:52.160 had changed on the horizon. Daylight was coming. And so as we're sitting 351 00:23:52.200 --> 00:23:56.079 there talking and getting our game plan, all of a sudden, the wall 352 00:23:56.160 --> 00:24:00.920 that we were in front of, which was by the door, there was 353 00:24:00.960 --> 00:24:03.519 no windows on that side, but we heard this. It sounded like someone 354 00:24:03.599 --> 00:24:07.039 shooting a teleg gun at the place. It was this sound, and the 355 00:24:07.119 --> 00:24:11.279 cadence increased until it was just like ailstorm of all these little rocks they were 356 00:24:11.359 --> 00:24:17.799 throwing and boom. We retreated right back into that little cubby. It really 357 00:24:17.839 --> 00:24:21.920 felt like we were being messed with. I was scared shitless, but I 358 00:24:22.039 --> 00:24:26.599 felt anger like they're toying with this because every time we were getting ready to 359 00:24:26.640 --> 00:24:30.799 make them go for it, something else would happen. It calms down, 360 00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:34.000 it gets lighter out, it's light enough to what we don't need the big 361 00:24:34.079 --> 00:24:37.480 flashlight. I could see to the trees. Everything under the tree line, 362 00:24:37.519 --> 00:24:41.279 though was still silhouetted because it was dark, but everything was in shadow. 363 00:24:41.759 --> 00:24:45.640 But I could see clearly to the tree line, and we looked out there 364 00:24:45.680 --> 00:24:49.119 was nothing, so it was go time. He was in front of me. 365 00:24:49.319 --> 00:24:52.880 I was right behind him, with the elder behind me. I had 366 00:24:53.000 --> 00:24:56.839 my elder's old wing Master shotgun man. That thing was there, just the 367 00:24:57.000 --> 00:25:00.799 emateth of a twelve gage. Jesus, it was big and long. I 368 00:25:00.839 --> 00:25:04.680 had that slung over my shoulder. I had the thirty odd six. I 369 00:25:04.720 --> 00:25:08.920 had my cousin the twelve gage because it was a little shorter for him to 370 00:25:10.200 --> 00:25:12.440 be in first out the door or whatever to get down to the skiff. 371 00:25:12.559 --> 00:25:17.000 So we go out the door and it was like we rehearsed it our whole 372 00:25:17.000 --> 00:25:18.880 lives. Man, we were bloom right to the edge. He jumped down. 373 00:25:19.599 --> 00:25:23.240 I held my helder from behind me come around. I knelt down because 374 00:25:23.400 --> 00:25:27.079 the grass had two on it. He was getting his footing and stuff in 375 00:25:27.200 --> 00:25:30.640 that twelve gage, being slung over my shoulder was pushing me forward. So 376 00:25:30.759 --> 00:25:34.960 once he got his footing, I screwed it back just maybe four six inches 377 00:25:36.000 --> 00:25:38.160 something like that, grabbed the thirty odd six and stood up, And when 378 00:25:38.160 --> 00:25:41.880 I came to full height, this rock, a little bigger than a basketball, 379 00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:48.599 literally whizzed right front of my face. Immediately everything with slow motion. 380 00:25:48.720 --> 00:25:52.440 I locked onto that rock and it flew and then impacted a part of the 381 00:25:52.559 --> 00:25:56.400 river that was about three feet deep. It hit so hard on this fast 382 00:25:56.440 --> 00:26:02.960 moving river that you were here to hit the bum like cora before the water 383 00:26:03.079 --> 00:26:06.799 closed over it. It hit hard from the distance I'm guessing it was thrown, 384 00:26:06.839 --> 00:26:10.119 which was at that tree line. It had to have already been in 385 00:26:10.160 --> 00:26:14.279 the air by time I stood up. So these things are very good at 386 00:26:14.279 --> 00:26:18.799 throwing rocks norm because it anticipated where I was going to be when it threw 387 00:26:18.839 --> 00:26:22.480 it. It had to just creepy shit. The rock impacts and it was 388 00:26:22.519 --> 00:26:26.440 like, what was really weird is outside of the big black nothingness. Once 389 00:26:26.480 --> 00:26:32.680 that rock hit the bottom of the river and crack, our hearing was back 390 00:26:32.680 --> 00:26:37.200 to normal. Everything went. I heard that impact real clearly. Everything was 391 00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:41.519 crisp and sharp. In with the hearing, I turned my left and that's 392 00:26:41.519 --> 00:26:44.920 where the big black one was coming out of the tree line. The way 393 00:26:44.960 --> 00:26:48.720 it was moving was like it was floating. You couldn't see any articulation of 394 00:26:48.759 --> 00:26:53.240 the limbs or anything. It was just coming out and I assumed that was 395 00:26:53.279 --> 00:26:56.960 the one that threw the rock. So I've shot it three times with the 396 00:26:56.000 --> 00:27:00.279 thirty odd six, that same thirty odd man. I don't know if you're 397 00:27:00.279 --> 00:27:04.119 a hunter. I've ever shot, but we killed Walrus with that rifle, 398 00:27:04.279 --> 00:27:08.759 the exact same one, two thousand plus pounds. Walrus killed him a shot 399 00:27:08.799 --> 00:27:14.440 or too dead missing. I hit it three times. I heard the bullets 400 00:27:14.480 --> 00:27:18.000 impact. It just stopped moving. It just stopped moving forward. But it 401 00:27:18.039 --> 00:27:22.359 didn't flinch, it didn't fuckle, it didn't nothing. It just stopped moving 402 00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:26.359 forward. And that's when I jumped off the bank. My freaking cousin didn't 403 00:27:26.359 --> 00:27:30.279 cut the line. So I'm young at him throw the knife, but he 404 00:27:30.400 --> 00:27:33.880 had that out forward, running but he had it idol really high because it 405 00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:36.519 was cold, but he was trying to ship at the same time, and 406 00:27:36.559 --> 00:27:38.680 I'm telling him the idol down. Throw me the knife. Was a bit 407 00:27:38.799 --> 00:27:42.440 chaotic there for a second. He throws me the knife. I cut the 408 00:27:42.480 --> 00:27:47.720 bow line and I'm putting the chink because there's about ten to twelve feet of 409 00:27:47.799 --> 00:27:51.880 chain before the regular rope, and I'm putting that into the skiff. I 410 00:27:51.920 --> 00:27:55.559 set the thirty six down in there, and he had, for some reason, 411 00:27:55.599 --> 00:27:57.519 dropped my shotgun on the river bank, and I was gonna grab it, 412 00:27:59.279 --> 00:28:00.920 but you know, with what was going on, he got it shifted. 413 00:28:02.160 --> 00:28:04.920 I shoved my elder in. He had sat down on the edge with 414 00:28:06.039 --> 00:28:08.480 his feet outside of the skiff, and he's sitting on the edge, and 415 00:28:08.559 --> 00:28:12.440 I shoved him in because he was taking way too long to get loaded up 416 00:28:12.440 --> 00:28:15.680 in the skiff, so I shove him in. He falls back, bruised 417 00:28:15.680 --> 00:28:18.960 his wrists pretty good. He turns around. He's facing the front towards me 418 00:28:19.160 --> 00:28:23.480 along with my cousin, and as I'm getting the chain in and all this 419 00:28:23.599 --> 00:28:27.680 is happening, he just got it into reverse and both their eyes get real 420 00:28:27.720 --> 00:28:32.640 big and they're looking up back behind me on the river bank. So I 421 00:28:32.720 --> 00:28:37.079 looked back and I saw a shin just up to the knee of this thing 422 00:28:37.160 --> 00:28:41.400 standing over me, back behind me. I don't think it was all black 423 00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:45.200 one, because this one had dark hair, but the tips were like an 424 00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:49.039 auburn red, a cinnamon red. But anyway, I push off. He 425 00:28:49.160 --> 00:28:55.000 backs out of little ways and I'm immediately in the bow trying to get more 426 00:28:55.079 --> 00:28:57.720 rounds into the thirty odd to six. And as I'm doing so, my 427 00:28:57.839 --> 00:29:03.319 vision is just going total vision. Man, hard the stress, it was 428 00:29:03.400 --> 00:29:07.359 just so jacked up. So I'm putting rounds in the sing and we're cutting 429 00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:11.039 back and forth. I noticed we're swaying. I found out later that the 430 00:29:11.079 --> 00:29:15.160 reason he was swaying. I thought he was just trying to break friction and 431 00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:18.480 get up on step, but what he was doing was avoiding the rocks they 432 00:29:18.480 --> 00:29:22.359 were throwing that outboard. The back of the transom of the skiff ended up 433 00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:26.720 with some good knots in there from rocks we had thrown, cracked the cowling. 434 00:29:26.319 --> 00:29:30.079 They were in the process of trying to stop us from getting out of 435 00:29:30.079 --> 00:29:33.200 there, but luckily we got going enoup and got up on step and got 436 00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:37.920 out of there. But we left everything a shot down, all the sluicing 437 00:29:37.960 --> 00:29:41.000 stuff. The only stuff we had with us was it closed on our back 438 00:29:41.599 --> 00:29:47.759 pockets full of AMMO and important stuff like our driver's license. That's what we 439 00:29:47.880 --> 00:29:52.480 left with. I don't even know how much money overall was lost in that 440 00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:57.720 excursion, but that's one of the driving forces of why I started the website 441 00:29:57.759 --> 00:30:03.200 and the YouTube channel to get the word out, because there's so many forest 442 00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:10.200 Friends stories and that might be true in some places, but up here in 443 00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:17.039 Alaska, there's a serious predatory side to these beings up here, and my 444 00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:22.559 experience on the river is not special. There's a couple of handfuls of people 445 00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:26.200 who have dealt with similar things to put shots on these things to keep them 446 00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:32.039 back, because for whatever reason that area they get hyper aggressive. So many 447 00:30:32.079 --> 00:30:37.519 people have experiences out that way. It is a very dangerous place in my 448 00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:41.279 field. And I've never up until two thousand and six, I would have 449 00:30:41.319 --> 00:30:44.720 told you, hey, they scream, they break stuff, you leave, 450 00:30:44.759 --> 00:30:48.839 You're good. Once I saw the flip side of that coin to where they 451 00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:52.519 were actually attempting to lure us out. Have we not seen the three sets 452 00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:56.119 eye shrink, we would have walked right around that corner right into his hands, 453 00:30:56.759 --> 00:31:00.440 like right into his arms. It just creepy stuff. And to be 454 00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:03.200 honest with you, Brian, in this me up for about four years, 455 00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:08.119 man, I drank heavy. No one would hear us. My relatives weren't 456 00:31:08.119 --> 00:31:12.160 communicating with me because again, during those moments of trauma, I was calling 457 00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:15.559 them all sorts of bitches, trying to get them to help. I was 458 00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:21.839 sitting there terrified and I needed someone to help. In those moments of fear, 459 00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:26.720 I was lashing out. Yeah, it was. Sometimes it still bothers 460 00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:30.599 me, other times it doesn't. But going out in the woods is a 461 00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:33.640 perhaps shoot. There's times that doesn't bother me at all, and other times 462 00:31:33.640 --> 00:31:37.480 it'll get super quiet in the woods and I just get creeped out, Paddy, 463 00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:42.279 and it's just real hard to sit still in the woods. But yeah, 464 00:31:42.400 --> 00:31:45.759 those circumstances is why I do what I do now to get the word 465 00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:51.000 out to people that hey, there's something different up here going on. Our 466 00:31:51.160 --> 00:31:55.680 oral history it dictates as much. And again I took it serious that they 467 00:31:55.680 --> 00:32:00.640 were real, but the whole eating people, I didn't initially bought it at 468 00:32:00.759 --> 00:32:04.759 for a long time until two thousand and six because up until then, all 469 00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:07.000 I saw was they would run a link, they would break stup, or 470 00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:13.559 we would leave. But it was never that personal, that in your face, 471 00:32:14.519 --> 00:32:17.279 we're gonna get you. But yeah, it destroyed our relationship. I 472 00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:22.240 talked to my cousin twice in almost twenty years. I haven't spoken to my 473 00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:27.319 elder since he since passed away. Yeah, man, a last eight no 474 00:32:27.480 --> 00:32:29.720 joke, man, definitely sounds like it. I want to go back. 475 00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:32.680 There's several questions that I have. I want to go back to the scream 476 00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:37.200 The screams you referenced a couple of times some of the earlier scenarios, and 477 00:32:37.240 --> 00:32:40.880 then when you guys had this thing in the cabin, let's talk a little 478 00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:44.519 bit about I know it's difficult to do, but can you give us sort 479 00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:47.880 of a something as a reference point to maybe describe what the scream sounds like 480 00:32:47.920 --> 00:32:52.720 that you guys are here. Initially, the one up on the bluff, 481 00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:55.720 it started off what I got every kind of siren where it goes starts up 482 00:32:55.799 --> 00:33:00.519 low and then ends up real high pitched but very powerful. The other ones 483 00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:06.759 were very forceful, not as long, and they didn't go as low and 484 00:33:06.839 --> 00:33:13.640 octive. They were very high pitched, very piercing, very powerful. Geez, 485 00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:16.480 it's really hard to go well over one hundred and twenty decibels over. 486 00:33:16.640 --> 00:33:22.079 I've since gotten into competition car stereos and stuff, and I know decibels. 487 00:33:22.119 --> 00:33:27.000 And these things were, especially the one outside that little shack when it screamed 488 00:33:27.000 --> 00:33:30.839 and the whole place shifted. At the same time, the pot that my 489 00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:34.920 elder had made our dinner in was sitting on one of those little Coleman stoves, 490 00:33:34.920 --> 00:33:39.119 and it rang like a tuning fork. It was powerful, ear piercing. 491 00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:44.240 Powerful. Again in the shack though, it was like we had those 492 00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:46.680 ear muffs on them, so it was different. It wasn't as piercing, 493 00:33:46.759 --> 00:33:51.599 but you could still you could feel it in every five year being that whole 494 00:33:51.640 --> 00:33:55.079 place reverberated with that screen. And again it wasn't a very long screen. 495 00:33:55.359 --> 00:34:00.960 It was pretty short, considering it was just very tenths. It's a powerful 496 00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:05.160 thing. The lower pitch part of it. A few of the times I've 497 00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:08.960 heard the lower end of it is not as traumatizing as once it gets up 498 00:34:08.960 --> 00:34:15.760 into that high woman being murdered pitch. That upper range in the octave is 499 00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:20.119 what really can discombobulate you, you know what I mean. It grabs the 500 00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:22.320 holdie, is what it does. Gosh. Yeah, that's the best analogy 501 00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:25.000 I can think of, is it? You feel it through and through. 502 00:34:25.679 --> 00:34:29.719 Let's talk a little bit about the oral history that you mentioned, because that's 503 00:34:29.760 --> 00:34:32.400 one thing that has come up over and over. I just finished a book 504 00:34:32.440 --> 00:34:35.960 a couple of months ago that'll be out here in February, and that's one 505 00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:38.039 of the things I talk a lot about in the book is the oral traditions 506 00:34:38.039 --> 00:34:42.960 of the Native Americans and the First Nations, people who have relationships or have 507 00:34:43.039 --> 00:34:47.480 had relationships with Sasquatch. Harry man, bigfoot, whatever you want to call 508 00:34:47.519 --> 00:34:52.639 them throughout the years. Like you said, it's not the forest friends. 509 00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:57.039 They're not singing kumbah yah and holding hands in the wild with these things. 510 00:34:57.239 --> 00:35:00.199 Can you talk a little bit about that, because I've interviewed so many many 511 00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:05.159 people, some that come to mind very recently, who claim to have almost 512 00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:09.400 like habituation situations with these things, where they're claiming that their babysitting their babies 513 00:35:09.519 --> 00:35:14.079 and they're coming and you know, they're feeding them candy and all this kom 514 00:35:14.119 --> 00:35:17.119 by y'all stuff, And then I hear stories like yours, and I'm sure 515 00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:22.880 at some point the truth lies somewhere in the middle for people. My thinking 516 00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:25.159 has always been, if these things are apex predators, and they are what 517 00:35:25.280 --> 00:35:30.760 I think they are, they're very dangerous. And I think that a lot 518 00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:32.280 of people who tell their stories and it seems to be a lot more coon 519 00:35:32.360 --> 00:35:37.760 by y'all, tend to throw up some red flags for me, because when 520 00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:42.320 I hear stories like you, that's almost what I envision these things to be 521 00:35:42.519 --> 00:35:45.119 in my mind is some sort of a monster. I'll give you a little 522 00:35:45.119 --> 00:35:49.880 bit of it from an elder of mine who is in her nineties right now, 523 00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:52.920 part of her oral history, which but incorporates into all of our oral 524 00:35:53.039 --> 00:35:57.840 history, so to speak, because every family has their own oral history, 525 00:35:58.320 --> 00:36:01.760 and under those oral histories you'll have the same types of the hairy Man, 526 00:36:01.800 --> 00:36:06.960 the little people, pushed tata, things of this nature, and down States 527 00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:09.000 you got skin walker and all the rest. Right, she was telling me 528 00:36:09.199 --> 00:36:15.440 that back in the sixties on on Alaska Island, one of these things was 529 00:36:15.679 --> 00:36:21.679 imitating a known baby to lure them out of their are a known child. 530 00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:25.199 Oh, I get the chill stinking of the cunning behind that, this creature 531 00:36:25.280 --> 00:36:30.840 prying on a woman's natural instinct to draw her out with a known baby, 532 00:36:30.239 --> 00:36:36.960 mimicked it identically, her and another relative out of the apartment, and they 533 00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:38.760 tried to look for the baby and didn't see it. And luckily they saw 534 00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:43.679 the hairy man before it noticed right where they were. They were able to 535 00:36:43.760 --> 00:36:46.840 duck inside, and this thing staring at him through the window. That's just 536 00:36:46.920 --> 00:36:52.280 the level of cunning. And then there's also all the stories that we heard 537 00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:57.719 from my grandma and my aunt Lucy and whatnot about them using bone knives, 538 00:36:57.840 --> 00:37:02.159 stealing fish, a long oral history of people going missing. That's The thing 539 00:37:02.199 --> 00:37:07.039 I wanted to incorporate as well is this five hundred to two thousand people go 540 00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:10.519 missing up here every year. Now by no means my saying, oh the 541 00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:14.639 harry Man got them all. No, I believe there is cases where that 542 00:37:14.760 --> 00:37:19.679 happened because it is technically it's a part of our oral history up there, 543 00:37:19.880 --> 00:37:22.519 you know what I mean. And a lot of people think that shouldn't your 544 00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:27.960 oral history be written down? No, if there was a non oral history, 545 00:37:27.960 --> 00:37:30.159 it would be a written history. Right from all the stories and stuff, 546 00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:37.079 it's always been one of severe mischief, flipping boats, breaking small houses, 547 00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:43.599 to stealing fish, stealing people. There was some oral history from Flicknick 548 00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:46.920 where they caught a young harry man, dug a big pit, put this 549 00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:52.000 thing in the pit and had it covered up for about four or five days. 550 00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:57.159 On the fourth or fifth morning, according to the oral history, this 551 00:37:57.280 --> 00:38:01.079 was at their original village. They're at their third incantation of Polygnik right now, 552 00:38:01.760 --> 00:38:07.320 but before all the river freeze ups in the moving of the village we're 553 00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:10.360 talking over a hundred years ago, they had this sing in a fit and 554 00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:15.880 the fourth or fifth morning they heard in you pick helped me. I'm cold 555 00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:20.000 feed me. I'm hungry coming from in the pit. So they moved the 556 00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:22.840 stuff and look in there, because every once a day they would feed this 557 00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:24.760 thing, some fish or whatever, trying to figure out what to do with 558 00:38:24.800 --> 00:38:30.119 it. And it turned out to be a missing woman that had been missing 559 00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:35.639 for two years now. According to the oral fishing, she was kidnapped, 560 00:38:36.039 --> 00:38:42.079 turned into one, and being away from them she transformed back. Now me, 561 00:38:42.239 --> 00:38:46.159 I lean more towards prisoner exchange, but then again I wasn't there, 562 00:38:46.400 --> 00:38:51.599 and that oral history, I can't dismiss it, you know what I mean, 563 00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:54.280 even though I haven't personally seen it. Something that I'm sure you understand 564 00:38:54.280 --> 00:38:59.480 since you did some study on it. Our oral history is very important to 565 00:38:59.599 --> 00:39:01.840 keep us safe. So where we know where the fishing grounds are, where 566 00:39:01.880 --> 00:39:06.599 we know where the hunting grounds are, where the safe passages are, all 567 00:39:06.639 --> 00:39:10.000 of that. It's taken very seriously when we share our stories as they're called, 568 00:39:10.559 --> 00:39:15.039 so I take it serious. I just I have a hard time with 569 00:39:15.159 --> 00:39:19.280 the shape shipping thing just because it's contemporary age. I haven't seen that, 570 00:39:19.480 --> 00:39:22.239 but that doesn't mean it doesn't mean Dick, it could have been just as 571 00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:28.199 they portray it. It's just one of those things, but a long history 572 00:39:28.360 --> 00:39:30.960 of you can't trust them, they'll turn your back on them, they'll eat 573 00:39:31.039 --> 00:39:35.360 you, they'll still your kids. Nothing good, nothing nice. There was 574 00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:37.960 never once that they said, oh, teach you how to weave a basket, 575 00:39:37.039 --> 00:39:42.280 none of that shit. It was all just all bad, nothing good. 576 00:39:42.760 --> 00:39:45.920 Let's talk a little bit about you mentioned it about the website and the 577 00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:52.039 interactive map. Obviously this drove you to action to tell other people about your 578 00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:55.079 story and to protect other people. Frankly, talk a little bit about the 579 00:39:55.199 --> 00:39:59.280 website that you mentioned, Talk about the interactive map. Where can people find 580 00:39:59.320 --> 00:40:01.519 that and what can they expect to see when they get there? And stay 581 00:40:01.559 --> 00:40:08.960 tuned for more Sasquatch out to see. We're right back after these messages at 582 00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:14.840 Subarctic Alaska Sasquatch dot com. On the website, there's a map and if 583 00:40:14.880 --> 00:40:21.159 you click on the map, it has markers of all the encounters and stuff 584 00:40:21.199 --> 00:40:24.199 that I collected pinpointed on the map. So when you zoom into an area 585 00:40:24.280 --> 00:40:29.119 you clicked on a marker, it's embedded with my YouTube channel. It'll pull 586 00:40:29.199 --> 00:40:34.199 up the corresponding encounter video from that area, and that gives people an idea 587 00:40:34.360 --> 00:40:37.199 of oh that on the Keynoten's level. Over here, they got screened at. 588 00:40:37.239 --> 00:40:42.440 Some things got thrown, and it's not there to scare anyone. It's 589 00:40:42.480 --> 00:40:45.079 just like being far aware, you know what I mean. You got to 590 00:40:45.119 --> 00:40:49.039 know the potential dangers of going into a place, because I get stories all 591 00:40:49.079 --> 00:40:53.079 the time from people that have held onto their encounters because of the ridicule for 592 00:40:53.239 --> 00:40:57.840 thirty forty several of them fifty plus years, just because they didn't want to 593 00:40:57.840 --> 00:41:01.000 get the ridicule. In a lot of nat of people that I talked to, 594 00:41:01.239 --> 00:41:05.960 they think I'm foolish for sharing because they say that gus sucks. Don't 595 00:41:06.000 --> 00:41:08.639 listen, they don't believe, So why waste your breath. But for whoever 596 00:41:08.679 --> 00:41:13.280 lives here or whoever's visiting here, it can mean a lot. It can 597 00:41:13.280 --> 00:41:17.559 be the difference between being Mary Wilson or whoever that ends up missing without a 598 00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:22.880 trace and no possible cause of why they're missing without a trace. She left 599 00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:25.719 her grandson, a two year old, in the backseat of her truck a 600 00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:30.960 year ago July twelfth. She was reported missing the fourteenth. They found her 601 00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:35.079 truck, two year old in the back grandson and she was gold on. 602 00:41:35.760 --> 00:41:39.239 Why was she gone missing. People cases like that that really are really strange. 603 00:41:39.320 --> 00:41:43.719 Same with a caribou on her the same year. A couple months later, 604 00:41:43.760 --> 00:41:47.599 he goes missing up by coldfoot tracking dogs would not track. He just 605 00:41:47.719 --> 00:41:52.679 proof disappeared like the fart and win man just gone. And there's countless stories 606 00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:55.519 like that man, a lot of them from the village and everywhere else. 607 00:41:55.559 --> 00:42:01.000 So it's public santy for me. And when I share other people's experiences, 608 00:42:01.079 --> 00:42:07.400 I don't sensationalize anything. I keep the integrity of the oral history by stating 609 00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:09.880 just what they stated to me and I leave it at that. I don't 610 00:42:09.960 --> 00:42:14.679 add to it. I just catch on the next one and leave it at 611 00:42:14.719 --> 00:42:20.000 that. But yeah, that's that's what the map's about. And there's just 612 00:42:20.039 --> 00:42:22.920 over two hundred markers on it right now, with the channel and stuff like 613 00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:25.559 that I've taken on. Hey, even if you just need to get it 614 00:42:25.599 --> 00:42:29.920 off your chance and don't want it published or public, that's fine. So 615 00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:32.599 if I was able to publish everything that I have, I would have well 616 00:42:32.599 --> 00:42:37.719 over five hundred videos at this point. But a lot of people, especially 617 00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:42.719 the Native people, that's superstition is still so ingrained. Even when talking to 618 00:42:42.719 --> 00:42:45.079 them on the phone, they'll start whispering, but it'd be hard to hear 619 00:42:45.199 --> 00:42:49.679 because they don't want to talk out loud. They don't want to changibly bring 620 00:42:49.760 --> 00:42:52.519 on the bad moments. So I got to respect that. So I just 621 00:42:53.199 --> 00:42:57.679 I don't publish their stories. I just keep them walked away or whateverever you 622 00:42:57.880 --> 00:43:00.440 put it. But yeah, anyone can make fun of it until it happens 623 00:43:00.440 --> 00:43:05.480 to them. Once it becomes real, there's no way around it. Have 624 00:43:05.599 --> 00:43:08.679 you had other experiences with these things after you had that experience in two thousand 625 00:43:08.719 --> 00:43:13.239 and six, or have you pretty much stayed out of the woods the following 626 00:43:13.360 --> 00:43:15.960 year because I knew if I stopped going out in the woods, ind I 627 00:43:16.039 --> 00:43:19.880 knew I'd never go back. It's in my blood. I still got in 628 00:43:19.880 --> 00:43:23.760 the woods in this day the following year, cause with two separate cousins and 629 00:43:23.800 --> 00:43:28.639 we were just taking one of my relatives up to No Austria Hawk to drop 630 00:43:28.760 --> 00:43:30.679 month for moose hunting. It was at the end of the salmon season, 631 00:43:31.280 --> 00:43:36.920 just before hunting season. So you have a period from like late July to 632 00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:40.639 late August where there's nothing happening, there's no fishing and there's no hunting yet 633 00:43:40.760 --> 00:43:45.599 so you have a month's leeway to dick around with your fishing money or whatever. 634 00:43:45.719 --> 00:43:49.039 So the three of us head up and we caught the late tide. 635 00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:52.760 So we ended up happened inadvertently. We camped in the worst spot we possibly 636 00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:57.559 could, which was at end of the bluffs south of Ekwalk, just between 637 00:43:57.599 --> 00:44:01.199 Ekwok and the Cockwalk River. We were right between the Cockwalk River at the 638 00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:06.880 end of the bluff, and according to what they say in Eggwalk, that's 639 00:44:06.920 --> 00:44:09.400 the worst place to be. Well, anyway, we found out. We 640 00:44:10.039 --> 00:44:14.320 pulled up, and don't mistake what I'm telling you, we were whooping it 641 00:44:14.400 --> 00:44:16.280 up. We were having a good time. I had hurt my hand that 642 00:44:16.440 --> 00:44:20.639 year. I crushed the median nerve in my right hands. I had that 643 00:44:20.800 --> 00:44:23.360 bandaged up and whatnot, But it was no big deal because we weren't really 644 00:44:23.360 --> 00:44:27.800 doing anything strenuous. We set up a little pop tent because it got too 645 00:44:27.880 --> 00:44:30.519 darkn sea on the river. There was a bunch of beetlekilt sproofs that we 646 00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:36.880 cut down, started a big bonfire, and about oh, not quite two 647 00:44:36.920 --> 00:44:39.920 hours after dark. We weren't polluted drunk, but we had a buzz. 648 00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:43.400 You know what, I mean, But all of a sudden we hear a 649 00:44:43.480 --> 00:44:46.119 natural alhoop. It was off to our left, seeing about sixty yards away 650 00:44:46.199 --> 00:44:51.559 or so roughly, but it sounded just like the regular bart out who got 651 00:44:51.599 --> 00:44:55.559 nothing of it. A moment later, there was an imitation out hoot from 652 00:44:55.599 --> 00:45:00.280 behind us, about one hundred yards off of our left, back behind up 653 00:45:00.360 --> 00:45:05.159 on this ridge. That was obviously not an owl. It was a good 654 00:45:05.199 --> 00:45:09.440 imitation, but it was so loud. There's no eight hundred pound owls out 655 00:45:09.480 --> 00:45:13.840 there, and so we heard that, and that really caught our attention. 656 00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:19.880 Our little ships and giggles all screeched to a halt. Immediately we started piling 657 00:45:19.960 --> 00:45:24.280 up that bonfire, and across the river we heard another owl hood imitation, 658 00:45:24.760 --> 00:45:29.079 very loud. It was so loud, in fact, that you could almost 659 00:45:29.119 --> 00:45:31.239 feel it in your clothes. And the river at that point is about eighty 660 00:45:31.280 --> 00:45:36.639 yards wide. It was loud. As soon as that one did its out 661 00:45:36.639 --> 00:45:39.440 hoot thing. Then the natural ale hoot happened again, but this time it 662 00:45:39.480 --> 00:45:44.760 was obviously imitated and very loud. And then it was like it went in 663 00:45:44.800 --> 00:45:47.840 a circle, and we all get back to back with our rifles. We 664 00:45:47.880 --> 00:45:53.440 got this bonfire going so hot and so tall that a little pop up tent 665 00:45:53.559 --> 00:45:58.280 we set up was about twenty feet away from the fire. It melted some 666 00:45:58.320 --> 00:46:00.000 of the guide strings that we had to take down it was so hot, 667 00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:05.639 and we all end up back to back. The one that we heard across 668 00:46:05.679 --> 00:46:08.840 the river. We heard it jump into the river. We heard it screaming 669 00:46:08.880 --> 00:46:15.320 and making weird noises going further above upriver from us. They were heard us 670 00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:20.119 splash, heard a bunch of noise, and then once it cooded again because 671 00:46:20.760 --> 00:46:23.519 they were doing this out when it oops again, it was doing this click 672 00:46:23.599 --> 00:46:29.039 pop simultaneously. God, it was the creepiest sound, but it was like, 673 00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:34.079 how do they do that? How do they make that click pop simultaneously 674 00:46:34.119 --> 00:46:38.840 with an olf? It was surreal. It was actually really awesome. Just 675 00:46:38.920 --> 00:46:45.920 the acoustics of it was so clean, so clear click pop. I can't 676 00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:50.760 even imitate it, but it was really cool sounding, but terrifying because they 677 00:46:50.800 --> 00:46:53.239 all started doing it and then it was click pops. So we're freaked out. 678 00:46:53.559 --> 00:46:57.199 We decide we're going to get out of here. So we decide we're 679 00:46:57.199 --> 00:47:00.679 going to jump in the skip and drift out to the sin Her channel and 680 00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:06.320 anchor out. Just watch our fire and be have some safety. So we 681 00:47:06.400 --> 00:47:08.559 jumped in and just as we're getting ready to move over the boat, we 682 00:47:08.679 --> 00:47:13.320 heard wrestling in the brush. But where we were hearing it, we shouldn't 683 00:47:13.320 --> 00:47:15.280 have been able to see it, but we didn't see anything. So that 684 00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:19.719 really freaked us out even more. We jumped in the skiff, We dripped 685 00:47:19.719 --> 00:47:22.239 out, We dropped the anchor, and it takes a minute for the anchor 686 00:47:22.280 --> 00:47:25.199 to stick and stop the drag. And once we do, we're a little 687 00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:29.000 further down then we wanted to be. But we could still see our fire 688 00:47:29.039 --> 00:47:31.320 because we didn't want to burn the place down, you know what I mean. 689 00:47:31.880 --> 00:47:35.440 So we're sitting there in the skiff and we're chuckling, holy shit, 690 00:47:35.559 --> 00:47:38.079 holy shit, what the hell? And as we're having this conversation, all 691 00:47:38.119 --> 00:47:42.480 of a sudden, it sounded like they were making a horror movie over there. 692 00:47:42.519 --> 00:47:46.639 Man, these demonic sounding screams were just ah gosh, I've never if 693 00:47:46.679 --> 00:47:51.440 there was an audio guy there for Hollywood for a horror movie, he would 694 00:47:51.440 --> 00:47:54.360 have had a lot to work with. Man, it just it sounded like 695 00:47:54.440 --> 00:48:00.280 a bunch of loud I can't even just a bunch of different employises. But 696 00:48:00.320 --> 00:48:05.159 they were also fast. I wouldn't say Samurai chattered. It was a little 697 00:48:05.159 --> 00:48:07.280 different. It sounded a little more, you pick, but it was all 698 00:48:07.320 --> 00:48:13.280 in real short first and it was all continuous at the same time. Ended 699 00:48:13.360 --> 00:48:16.639 up pulling one of the fire logs at us from the woodpile because there was 700 00:48:16.719 --> 00:48:21.679 pieces of it sticking out that weren't burning. Once one of those came flying 701 00:48:21.719 --> 00:48:24.800 at us, we pulled the anchor line and just dripped on down. Once 702 00:48:24.840 --> 00:48:29.599 we started drifting and all that, we sobered up real fast. But once 703 00:48:29.639 --> 00:48:32.679 we got down, oh gosh, had to have been at least a few 704 00:48:32.719 --> 00:48:37.440 miles. We ended up grounding out on another gravel bar, but thankfully we 705 00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:40.079 were out in the middle of the river or whatever, and then we sat 706 00:48:40.079 --> 00:48:45.880 there until first light. But yeah, definitely creeping stuff, man, it 707 00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:49.360 definitely sounds like it. Fred I really appreciate you coming on the share and 708 00:48:49.400 --> 00:48:52.639 your experiences. Man. I will link to the website in the show notes 709 00:48:52.639 --> 00:48:54.199 for everybody. You can click right there, go over and check it out. 710 00:48:54.280 --> 00:48:57.920 Check out the YouTube channel. FREDA had a blast talking to you, 711 00:48:57.960 --> 00:49:00.639 man, I really appreciate you coming on the show. Yeah, no problem, 712 00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:05.320 and I hope you get the film better. They say you don't gotta 713 00:49:05.480 --> 00:49:14.079 go home, but you can't stay. And no, I don't want to 714 00:49:14.199 --> 00:49:43.840 be alone. We're lopping, chop this job, that chid. Everything came 715 00:49:44.239 --> 00:49:49.960 right back, right back, the joy for me, Joy stay right, 716 00:49:52.079 --> 00:50:12.800 don't come in right away. Mean side in state states stas still st st 717 00:50:13.679 --> 00:51:00.559 st st st stass side still stay state stills games and statesss s st ys 718 00:51:00.760 --> 00:51:06.039 as fast US pass