This is the two seventeen Recovery podcast with Corey Winfield. Well, fat people,
we really hate it. I'm speaking for all fat people we hate being
hot. Show me one fat person that likes being hot, and I'm have
some words of them, like why are you playing? You know, like
being hot? Bro and co Holt Marnie Winfield for little things that I appreciate
now in life. And this gas station is the gas station of all gas
stations. And what makes it so special it's got like a coffee bar in
there, kind of It is the twenty ninth of May twenty twenty three.
My name is Cory Winfield. My name is Martie Winfield. So welcome to
the two seventeen Recovery podcasts. Marnie, has been a couple of years since
you've been on. It seems like night years, but it's been a minute.
Oh man, you see it feels like years, it does. And
we can emails left and right. Where's Marnie when you're coming back? What
happened? Now you're making stuff up, but could have happened. People they
want their money, you know, they want the yang to the yang.
It's what they want. It's just not the same or maybe that's just me.
Well, but both maybe I think so you get what I'm saying.
M I missed you. That's what I'm saying now, So what's up?
What's what's going on? You called this podcast to order tonight, I did.
I did it' I miss it. It is part of my program,
um, you know, it's you started it kind of as a way is
one of the pieces of what it is that you do to keep yourself sober,
and then I've sort of incorporated it into my program. So kind of
like when you go a minute without going to a meeting, you know,
same kind of feeling like I need to recharge my batteries, get back in
the hot seat and talk about what's going on. Got to Yeah, at
least that's for me, and i'd sit on the last episode. I think
with Mitch and Adam, maybe that I really need to start getting back to
the Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday schedule because it's something that you know, it
was Sundays for a while too early on, and it was something like you
said, it kept me sober, you know, something I started to keep
myself sober and to hold myself accountable. And yeah, I've been busier and
sometimes I'm even more tired than I was before. And the podcast kind of
goes to the wayside now and it's like, wait a minute, you know,
you start slipping in one area. What's next? You know? And
they say in early recovery, watched that and be very careful of that.
If there's something like the podcast, it could be going to church, could
be going to meetings, it could be whatever it is. For other people,
they stopped doing it, and then they let their guard down, and
then they stopped doing other things, and the next thing you know, they're
out there in the situation. And I'm not saying I'm anywhere near this,
but I don't want to be either. They're out there in a situation.
It hits them and they're like, oh, I could just do one more.
I know, one hundred percent in my mind, I cannot do one.
Not if I want this life that I've built, which I do.
It's way better life than when I was, you know, addicted to alcohol,
and I just I just don't want to go back to that life again.
So I think I just need to recommit, make a plan, make
a day, make a time, and maybe maybe it's not Tuesdays Thursdays,
and Saturday anymore. I mean we change that kind of when you were going
to school a little bit because we just do that. Those days weren't going
to work, so maybe we kind of really do it. And now I
got the North the North Side studio as well, so it's like that's another
reason that I shouldn't have these excuses. All I couldn't do them today as
tired, right because I pay those people. I can bring them the office
anytime. But get in here, sit down and listen to me talking about
you're on the clock. Sit down, it's a podcast. The one thing
I don't really like like because you have your microphone and the studio in the
North studio has two of those microphones, and I'm not a big fan.
Um this was the one I'm talking to right now. Yeah, you don't
like it. I don't know. Maybe to me it just sounds weird.
It sounds different. Well, obviously it's different microphone that I have right now.
Is the microphone I have now is different than you rs in the studio
and then the other studio, I have two microphones that are the same as
yours. But to me it just sounds weird. I don't know. Here
in radio, I'll so you can talk. Yeah, it just it just
sounds weird. I don't know. I have to listen to them back and
see if I can tell the difference between this episode. In the last episode,
we were with you your mom today and her friend Ron. He's a
big fan of him and Tyrone or Buddies, and they're both from the Detroit
area and so they have that bond together. And he was saying, or
he was asking, when's the last time I had Tyrone on and sol him.
I was like, well, he was with us at the you fam
rally and we did some some live breaks and he took the wireless out.
He's like, okay, i'll have to listen to that. You know,
I'll have to give give a listen. I was like, whoa, it's
probably not gonna what you're gonna be used to hearing. And he just kind
of looked at me, and I was like, you'll understand once you started
listening, you know. But I don't know. Hopefully he's not too I
don't want to say thrown off, but off put whatever. He's pretty flexible
guy. I think he'll and he knows you, yeah he does, and
I bust his balls all the time. So yeah, maybe he's still listening
to this. He's like, yeah, I know, Corey, bust of
my balls on your podcast. But yeah, we're not for everybody, you
know, and I'm not for everybody and that's cool and I get that.
And you know, my humor doesn't reflect everybody. You know. Some people
just don't get us. Some people just don't like me because my voice is
all sexy and stuff. Yeah, I love social media what's up now?
But it is what it is. And like I said, do this for
my own recovery and it's fun for me. And the video we made the
other day was was fun making. And that kind of stressed out because I
was like, oh, this is gonna suck, Like nobody's gonna nobody's gonna
think this is even funny or even get it and understand it. And I
start putting it together and I'm like, you know, it came out a
lot better than I thought I was going to. So first I thought,
man, I'm wasting all my time. I'm gonna put this thing together.
No one's gonna see it, and it's gonna suck, and we should just
be doing like Hi, I'm Corey. It comes to the grand opening,
because we're having a grand opening of the two seventeen Recovery Center on June eighth,
eleven to two and try Ver City, Michigan, and that's we just
need to do like real videos of us saying, hey, come come out
join us. It's gonna be hot dogs, whatever, and then we can
share that stuff. I was like, man, that's probably more more effective,
just short and sweet, and this really isn't meant to gain traction for
that grand opening. This is just made to be silly and show up people
in recovery can have fun. Yeah, that was the purpose of that video.
But I think it turned out a lot better than what I thought it
was. It's very much like it reminds me of The Office, the show.
Yeah, I just kind of had the idea. We were driving back
the other day and I was like, you know, we should probably do
this and that will be kind of cute and funny or whatever. And I
think the start, I mean, they're all Mitch does a great job,
Adam does a great job, Justin does a great job. You did a
great job. Like everybody really did a really good job in that it was
fun, like Justin's look like Adam when because he came in the other day
and I was editing it and he looked at it for a minute and they
were all dying. When it comes to Justin's part and he does this look
in the camera, it's yeah, oh my good. So are you gonna
put that on? How are you gonna how are people going to watch this?
Um well, I still gonna get Tyrone incorporated into it. You want
to redo your part, just one part of you? But I don't know.
I thought you were really good. Um Man. I don't know when
it when it gets put all together, which I have no idea. I
have other things to do tomorrow, Okay, can't be spending time doing that
work like in my free times when I've been doing this stuff, right,
um So, yeah, I don't know. But on YouTube probably, you
know, definitely, it'll be on our website. Yeah, everybody has to
check it out. It's cute. But yeah, everybody did such a great
job and I was really proud of them. The outtakes too, Like the
outtakes, I should just cut those up and put those in there. Those
are hilarious. Yeah, I bet bloopers. I love blooper. You put
bloopers in like everything I've ever done. The only thing I think you did
not put bloopers in is my school project, where you very much could have
if you wanted to. But like my sister's wedding video and bloopers. Did
our wedding video have bloopers? Oh? You did at the beginning? Then
huh what are you talking about? That wasn't we get married? I know,
I know our wedding video when you had you on the you had did
you do your mess up? Oh that was at the end. Yeah.
So I like blue person. Everybody I know who doesn't love bluepers because nobody,
like anybody's finished product went through a lot of stuff to get to that.
So why not add to all the crap? It Like it's numerous,
you know, yeah, it's pretty funny and you know for me to like
put it all together right with the bluers at the end, like I don't
know when it's going to be done, but yeah, it's nothing that has
to be done before the grand opening, and it's like, but it's about
it. Yeah, And that I said something to um the mom tonight,
you know, because she watched it and she's like, oh, it sucks.
You should add this and that and blah blah blah, and I was
like, oh, well, I guess that people. Some people just aren't
gonna find it humorous. And like I said, it's not even close to
being done. So I was like, well, oh, but um I
said something about, well, it'd be kind of cool to maybe maybe show
it at the grand opening. You know, people can watch the video.
I think that would be kind of give them something to do. The hot
dog while you're hanging out or yeah, whatever, what are we We're not
feeding people hot dogs that aren't you. Yeah, you're gonna get the hot
dog makers that we have, like George Twurman. I don't know, I've
only heard of them. They're just little ones. I can make like three
hot dogs at a time. Oh no, that's not going to work them.
Yeah, well, we'll just keep people waiting, ie people wanting more.
That's what's the name of the game. And like Sam's Club, like
you could just give them like half years, like a bite with like a
tooth pick back in six minutes, the other half of microwave going all the
time, go stir the relish. Who doesn't love? Who doesn't love?
Costco Test Day esterday? Yeah, Like I wonder if you just like waited
how long it took for people to tell you, like you need to you
can't have anymore, because I mean they'll they'll like, let's tape. You're
like, oh, that's really delicious, and then you like grab another one
and walk away like nobody says anything, but what have you just stood there
and just like kept like picking up the same poles and then she they would
be like, um, you're only like is there a maximum that people are
um? And like you validate the whole time. Well, that didn't have
a whole pepperoni on it, and he didn't get a bite that has the
whole pepperoni on it. Yeah. Think about these deep dish pizzas. Is
I don't know if I like them till I've had the whole thing keep them
coming. Is that from a crust piece or is that a midpiece? Yeah?
I want to make stra with the whole Are you cooking the whole pizza
today? Yeah? Okay? Can you just you have to put it in
this little give me dipping sauce, baby, the whole thing to me,
little salt just go up there and just like, hey, I'm here for
the pick up for Windfield. Yeah, large pizza so they called it in
or you like, order it special, Like can I hear that extra extra
something extra donut, pepperonis or mushrooms or something. Yeah, go to the
produce section and grab an onion, get some knife, start cutting it up,
just breaking into a huge thing, one of those gigantic ketchups for like
chicken nuggets. You put those nuggets in this. You can go up with
like plastic wear. You just walk up with a chicken, old chicken.
Here you go, man, throw this on there. See what it does
with this. Oh no, I'm not trying to buy the chick. I'm
trying to bout that oven. And I don't know why I thought of that.
I'm just seeing like the crazy, like the funny stuff that's funny that
people just like would love to just see bloopers from or like you know,
like people try to do because who I mean, people wouldn't know what to
do, but it'd be funny. He's cracked to watch. Damn the thing.
I'm still kicking myself over as not recording Tyrone in the Botaskey Walmart.
M honey, it was the funny, one of the funniest things I've ever
seen in my life. It was, Oh my god, I don't even
know. It was just such a magical moment because here's Tyrone from Detroit and
Potoski going into Walmart and the greeter and Dustin wearing that cape said captain save
a hoe, and that greeter she's probably eighty ish and just like, oh,
hi, what's seven? What's the cape? Saying like she was really
like inquisitive, and then Tyrone just dropping on it. It says captain save
a hoe, and she's just like what the smile on her face I still
see it, cocks her head, looks up at him, Captain save a
hole. And then Tyrone just calmly just looking at her, going, no,
Captain save a ho oh, you know, like a lady of the
night, and you know how Tyrone does. And oh my god. Her
disreaction of like oh, and then Tyrone looking and go, yeah, he
saved them. Chris Chris too. Chris was there and he was dying and
his laugh is infectious. So I'm seeing all this ham and I'm just losing
my mind, going I just turned the camera off, like not even twenty
seconds ago, Like if I just would have been like, yeah, let's
roll in here, let's just keep filming. Oh man, so no,
I just always keep filming. But no, but yeah, it those funny
things in those funny moments of people, like real encounters and interactions are hilarious
sometimes and whether or not planned, or somebody doesn't know what's going to happen,
you know, and it's just improv it's it can be pretty good.
It can be pretty bad too, And all of this stuff and all of
these good memories and moments and laughter and stuff is all completely sober. Like
how awesome is that? Yeah, so somebody says, well, you can't
do that, or you want to do it, don't worry about what other
people think. You know, you have to get to that point of all
right, somebody's gonna be hating in you anyway. Somebody's hating on you because
you're sober right now, straight up. Somebody cannot wait for you to fail.
Yep, that's how it is. Let mean it go. That's just
I don't know if we do that as a whole nation, a whole human
race. Thing. It's we build people up and then we want to watch
them fall, and then we laugh at them when they do. You know,
Ron today was talking about the swimmer Phelps, Michael Phelps, and I
remember hearing people like talking trash because he had tested positive for marijuana or something,
and then like other people are saying he's doing these other drugs, and
it's just like people wanted to like burn them up, you know. But
here he was winning all these gold medals. People are like, oh,
you're the greatest man, And now what because he does some drugs or make
some bad choices mistakes Like we all make them, we all make bad mistakes,
horrible mistakes, and I don't know, that's just kind of a society.
So don't worry about what people are saying about you. Adam was telling
me there's a guy he was talking to kind of helping out with recovery coaching
stuff, and he was wanting to do YouTube videos and stuff like that,
and I was like, dude, definitely, you know, like help the
dude with it, you know, if you can. And he said that
he brought up the podcast to the guy, you know, saying, look,
you know, Corey started the podcast as you know, a way to
just keep sober and something for him. And Adam and I were talking about
it, and it gets it gave me something to do and if somebody's out
there and they're new in recovery and they don't know what to do. I
remember that feeling of just Auntie, like what do I do right now?
Like, okay, I'll go to a meeting and I get hoping to meet.
I'm like, all right, what do I do right now? All
right? I'll try to watch TV? Well, that to me is a
trigger. You know, that's all we do is get drunk and watch TV.
So you think that's a good idea. Now, But if you can
do a podcast, if you can be around other people invite them on the
podcast, you know, and if you can put videos together, if you
can do something, you know, you need something to replace the drug of
choice and that boredom or downtime that you have. You know, it's important
that you replace. That was something that you'd like to do or interested in.
Yep, for sure. Sorry, taking a drink of some delicious stuff
that the dentist told me not to drinking. Yeah, dentist said that's bad
for you. I didn't know that dentists, so that I wonder why Actually
she was a dental hygienist. I think about why, why is powering not
good for your teeth. I said, yeah, but I drink that stuff
that I don't have no sugar in it. She said, yeah, that's
still really bad for your teeth. Huh, I said, call her B
word. No you didn't, okay, yeah, just keep me PULSI Okay,
I didn't. I jumped out of that chair. I said, I
I ain't messing with you. Don't you clean my teeth? Could you go
into the dentist. That's the moral of that story. Mmmmmm. Yeah.
But we're gonna get some insurance. M mmmm. I think what a couple
of days people gonna lose their insurance. Man. Yeah, sorry, because
the Medicaid thing or whatever. I know, because of the COVID's is over.
It's over. I heard about that. Yeah, yeah, we'll see.
But hopefully people can get that stuff figured out. And now they were
sending us stuff in the mail. I just kept throwing it away. It's
like, oh no, because I don't think we can be qualified for the
for the stuff that they had been given me. And you know, you've
had insurance or whatever, but from here you're gonna have double insurance. You
had to figure that out. But that was fun. That was super fun
getting insurance for like the company. I've never done that before. Yeah,
my god, the word fun, But okay, it's fun if you learn
and not just learn the easy way, but learn the hard way, the
hardest way you can learn. That's the way I learned it, and then
I found out a bunch of other stuff that I had to learn. So
that was a lot of fun. But now hopefully will have some insurance and
they're trying to include this crappy Donald plan. Like all this stuff's new to
me, you know, so I'm just walking blindly into all this, which
is actually it's kind of fun. One day, I'm gonna look back at
this and go, man, remember those days, just like I say,
now, like two years ago, Like, man, remember those days,
Yeah, I remember them. I'll remember this too. But those those things
that you learn along the way and as you're going through them, that's that's
how people learn. Yeah, you know, so don't remember be afraid of
doing something that you've never done before, not even go home the sexual part.
Honey, you're looking at me like, don't know. I was actually
thinking that I've learned that lesson too, is is if you don't know how
to do something, don't try to struggle through it. Just stop and ask
somebody, ask questions, ask some and don't be embarrassed that you don't know
the answer. There was a time when they didn't know the answer either.
Yeah, you know, And it's not because you weren't paying attention. It's
not because you're dumb. It's because it wasn't you actually haven't been taught that,
or maybe you didn't retain it whatever, or you're unfamiliar with it.
And people make assumptions about what you do know and what you don't know.
But there's nothing wrong with just being like, I'm working on this, I
want to get it done, I know my end goal. I'm just where
I'm having troubles. Can you help guide me? The only thing you need
to ask yourself before you jump into something is do you have the desire to
do it? Do you have the desire to learn it? And maybe you're
like, yeah, I really want to raise chickens. You're like, wow,
that's something I always want to do is raise chickens. You start raising
chickens and you're like, man, how my chickens died because I didn't have
a heat lamp And you're like that was expensive mistakes And then you buy a
heat lamp, you buy some more chickens. But after a year you're like,
I don't like this chicken stuff anymore. Like I don't, this is
not for me. Switch it up, sell your heat lamps, get what
you can, and move on to something else. But don't just keep with
it because you started it and damn it, I'm going to finish it.
Like that could really trouble a lot of people up. But if you have
a desire to learn it, then hey, you know what, I guess
what, you can look back and go up. I tried the chicken thing.
That's not for me, but I tried it, and I did it
the best I could. But then I realized, no, it's just not
for me. And then move on to something else. You know, don't
don't just start I'm gonna do this because I'm gonna do it. But just
ask yourself, like I said, do you really have a true desire?
Because I say, like everything that you do it starts with desire. Except
I take a shower. That's because in necessity, Yeah, I think so.
So I don't think I desire to take a show. You do you
desire to take a shower? I love taking showers. I desire not to
smell bad, so maybe that's works into that somehow. Yeah, I think
so the therapists lady, Yeah, I mean you have there's a goal embedded
in there. So yeah, I desire to smell good. There you go,
and to make that happen, I have to shower with soap. Sometimes
you were a showered without soap. No I have, well, I'm sure
I have in my life because it's been like unavailable to me. But I
don't can't say when, not any not any time recently. I think it
was a really bad one for me. I think I had like an accident,
not in my pants or nothing. Oh no, but I was like,
well, I need to jumple the shower and I was like, I
got no soap. I was like what it was the worst possible time.
I don't remember how long ago it was. I just remember it being in
my head right now. So you're some not at your own house. It
was at my mom's house or something, and there was no soap. I
think, so yes. I don't know if I was a teenager or early
twenties or when that was forties, late thirties, forty right, it might
have been. Did I ever lose with my mom when I was forty.
Oh, I don't think I did, maybe, but I know when I
was on my alcohol tether, I stayed there. I didn't trust myself to
go back to my apartment. I learned down a couple of stints, and
I was like, really, I shouldn't, really, I shouldn't keep wondering
if they're gonna really send me to jail if I go to drink again,
they where are you going to? But then it switched for me because then
I wanted to prove everybody wrong. I really did. I just like,
you know what, I don't know what it's gonna take. I have no
idea. But I got an Amazon gift card. I bought a microphone for
Christmas, and I was gonna start a podcast with some sort and I don't
know. It's crazy how things work sometimes how kind I'll just setting stuff up
for you and you just you know. I had a little desire, you
know, to even start a podcast by getting that microphone, and it was
just I was supposed to be go to treat Man podcast. Yeah, podcast,
Oh about my recovery. No, they're gonna make fun of me.
I don't know. So if you know somebody, maybe you whatever, have
a little desire, go for it. Absolutely, don't worry about what people
think about you. Like you said, they're hating already. There's haters out
there, that's what they do. Yeah, and you just gotta worry about
you. Keep yourself clean, sober. If you trip, you fall,
you mess up, get back up. Man. I'm telling you this life
is so worth it like to be clean, to be sober, to actually
live life again. A lot of people don't even know what that's like,
and they think they do. And it's stuff for family members, you know,
to try to beat some sense into their loved ones because you just can't
do it right. It's tough as a whole nother podcast. Tune in Tuesday
as Marnie is live from the North Studio. Shit, that's tomorrow, Yeah,
tomorrow, Sunday. It's Monday. Dang, it's a holiday Holliday.
M all right. We'll tune in tomorrow as we did what we're talking about
again tomorrow. Family and I was talking about families beat it into their heads.
You can't, you really can't. I want to talk to you about
that. And tomorrow we have a gamble. There's gambling support gambling Addiction Support
meeting at the office at the two seventeen Recovery Center in Traverse City, six
o'clock. And I was talking to this guy at this radio station because they're
supposed to be doing stuff for people who have problem or how gambling has affected
someoney or somebody's family negatively. Then they're supposed to kind of do some stuff
and all they, you know, just run some commercials called eight one eight
hundred terms yeah breathe so yeah, So we are actively involved in that.
And I was talking to him about, Look, if there's any campaigns,
it needs to be directed at the people, the family members, because okay,
let's just we're gonna role play. I'm a gambler and I go out
and I blow my whole check and now we can't pay the rent and we're
kicked out. You're gonna be so pissed off at me and you're gonna want
to ring my neck or divorce you. But the person needs needs help the
whole m Yeah, it's very It's it's as complicated as as the codependency slash
enabling slash gray area of helping somebody when they're down and out, to helping
feed their addiction that goes the same for gambling as it does for addiction to
substances. There's the correlation is on camp and I mean you can like Gambler's
Anonymous Groups, which is an offshoot of is actually an offshoot of the whole
A program, And I mean you read it and it's literally they just change
out the word and Taylor the all the readings and so on to have it
be reflective of compulsive gambling. But like the family members, same thing,
you know is like people don't know what to do. They don't know how
to help, you know, it's not their fault, like it's you know,
it's an addiction. And it also is co occurring with so many other
things. I mean, you can tie you can make connections to you know,
any drugs and alcohol, you can make connections to mental health. It's
definitely obviously connection to suicide. We've talked about that. Family, family problems,
obviously, employment issues, people start stealing from companies or don't go to
work because they're out, you know, or what the list is at infinitem.
So it's one of those things where you know, I have I'm grateful
to say that I've never been able to identify as a compulsive gambler. I
think to a level where I don't know that I need like an intervention or
anything. I mean, I kind of I think I've gambled too much in
my life at some point it like, you know that I probably shouldn't have,
but I never was, like had that mental obsession. And I know
that obsession because I know that obsession that I had with alcohol, and it
was like it like it owned me. I couldn't get it out of my
head. I needed more of it. I needed to figure out how to
get it. I needed to figure to make sure I had enough of it.
You know. It made me anxious when I thought I wasn't going to
have any And it's like that's how people feel about gambling. It's like they're
waiting. They're gonna win it there next time. It's gonna be the big
time, you know, and it consumes them. They're gonna help all their
family members out. Like most of them don't do it because they're like,
man, I want to hit that and win a million dollars and go fly
off and be great by myself. No, they're they're like, hey,
look I'm gonna hit this big and I'm gonna buy my son a car,
pay for college. I'm gonna I want to make everybody happy, and I
want to be the the night and shining armor. I'm gonna come flying in
and fix everybody's problems, you know, And it doesn't work that way,
it's the opposite. But see a lot of people don't don't realize that.
And then the person who gambles, like, we could blame it on drugs.
All the drugs made me do it, all the alcohol change me,
and it did, you know, but they're just kind of like stuck there
with nothing, you know, like it's it's hard to explain to somebody who
doesn't know addiction, which clearly there's a lot of people that have no clue,
but what that what that's like in that in that feeling and then that
moment. So I think it's time that we kind of step up and start
doing things a little different when it comes to people who have a problem with
gambling and the gambling addiction when it takes over the brain. We need to
really help those people out. We need to send them to treatment as well.
And I know there's some places down south that do it, but I
don't know if any in Michigan that do it, But there really needs to
be that, and especially with more and more things just popping up with every
sport. You can bet on this, but you turn on the radio,
you turn on the TV, check your email, and there's some betting stuff
going on all the damn time. As much as they're putting into that they
need to put into you can get help and real help, not just call
us eight hundred number. That to me is the dumbest thing. And you
will probably agree with me when I say this. When I heard people talk
about drink responsibly and we had different paths to get to where we're at,
I thought, cool, any talking about me. I drink responsibly. I
drink at home at that time. I never had a DUI. I don't
beat up people, I don't get arrested. I'm drinking responsibly. Meanwhile,
I liver shut down when I was thirty six. I clearly was not drinking
responsibly. But because I never got in trouble, to me, I was
drinking responsibly. And they're telling people, oh, gambled responsibly and more responsibly.
Yeah, But when somebody doesn't have that help, and if somebody's trying
to target me, with hey go to treatment or you know, I listened
to the ticket on Dallas and they play this horrible commercial about this treatment center
down there, and they're like, do you have a problem with drinking?
Most people are gonna like nope, you know, if you target the family
with the messaging, because that's who needs help, in my opinion, because
I when you're in your active addiction like that, you don't have a problem
until either you're out of money or in jail. Then oh shit, I
have a problem now, and I need to ask somebody for some money now,
and now it's a problem. And then you felt like a you know,
a dog who's being shamed when you come running back home and you're like,
I need some help. I need some help, And you get to
talking to don't shoot on the rug, you know, and you're like,
oh yeah, sorry. But then somebody helps you, and like you said,
there's a thin line between helping and enabling. And then they get back
on their feet again. They're like, you know what I've been doing,
good man, I'm gonna go in there and I'm gonna win me something.
And maybe they do. Maybe they go back and when a thousand dollars they're
like, oh man, right back to the races, you know, and
a lot of people don't understand that. So I think if we message the
gambling thing, make a longer story even shorter. Now if we just target
the family members, because I think the family members need help. They're the
ones that can maybe talk to somebody, you know that they're the ones that
could talk to the person maybe kind of let them see like hey, maybe
there's a problem. Again. Maybe that doesn't help them, but at least
it helps the family understand like, hey, Jimmy's not doing this because he
hates the family. You know, there's something out there's something probably off with
Jimmy, and he needs to talk to somebody about that, but he's they
hate the family. I don't know. And just like anything, the first
step is admitting that you have a problem, recognizing that it's an issue for
you, and then I mean, there's it is. It's different, but
it's the same. I mean, there are interventions that you know that family
members can do. It's not just like locking up the liquor cabinet, right,
but it's like helping with like budgeting and like maybe even changing past codes
and like putting things in you know, so they don't have access to funds
that could be you know, tamper or taken from that you know, need
to stay safe, you know, until they can earn that trust back.
So it's a serious it's a serious addiction. It's a serious issue. It
is. And I just think by just throwing out of eight hundred number and
blaming the people, well, it's their prous their problem. They're the ones
that have the problem with gambling. They're the ones that do it to themselves.
Can we be passionate compassionate one for once? You know, it's like,
hey, probably hope these people out, you know, because gambling and
destroys families too. You know, like it's just it's just bad news,
man. And you know there's some people are like, oh, I go
to Vegas once you were a gamble It's fune okay, that's how you want
to spend your money. Shirt. It's like people saying, oh, I
can go out dinner and have a beer. I'm sure you can. I
can't. Can't. Can't you hit one beer? Can't have none of it,
you know, And there are people out there that are saying with the
game, they can't, they can't do one penny slot can't do it,
you know. So you know I was looking at like, oh, well,
we do fantasy football, we do like stuff like that. Would that
be hypocritical if I now I'm like, hey, for people who need gambling
support, I don't think so, you know, because they say, well,
fancy football is gambling, and I guess sure, you know, and
I'll be very careful and mindful of it if it. If I start bett
Non's crazy stuff, you know, then yeah, I will probably need to
reach out for help. But you know, it's like saying, my little
brother can't have a Beers dinner, and my stuff that can't have a beer,
and my mom can't have it a beer the dinner. They can have
whatever they want. You know, they're not the one with the problem.
And you know, I would like to think that I don't have a problem
with gambling. You know, I'm pretty sure I don't. But it doesn't
mean that I don't want to help the people that do or the families of
people that do. I guess that was my point to all that, and
it could have been wrapped up. It's just that sentence, But that's cool.
I like to hear myself talk. No, I think it's important.
It's and I think it's it's people being vocal about the willingness to in support
of people getting help and reaching out and admitting they have a problem. And
for the family members as well, you know, like we might not identify
with it, but we're recognizing that it's an issue. And we need more
people like that in the world to be like, it's okay if you have
a problem, like we want to help you. Who doesn't want to help
somebody who has a problem, you know? Yep, that's my why in
life. I just want to make it easier for the next generations to ask
for that help. That's where it starts. And for people to realize that
they have a problem is probably the toughest thing. So for sure, to
touch the families to let them know it could be okay one day. But
yeah, so that's all I have. I think, did you want to
talk about something? You're good? I'm good. Sure you called this podcast
to order. I know it's been a good one. Okay, it was
fun. Ye next to the work week, let's talk you too. That's
gonna talk some more off the radio. All right, everybody have a great
week. Oh I hope everyone had a great weekend. Yeah, yeah,
it's fun on this Monday. It's Monday. The weekend's gonna be here sooner
it will. It's a shorter week, this feels yeah, wait to get
that going on? Sure? Yeah, all right, every good night.
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