WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.640 --> 00:00:07.480 This is the two seventeen Recovery podcast with Corey Winfield. Well, fat people, 2 00:00:07.519 --> 00:00:10.359 we really hate it. I'm speaking for all fat people we hate being 3 00:00:10.400 --> 00:00:13.759 hot. Show me one fat person that likes being hot, and I'm have 4 00:00:13.919 --> 00:00:17.600 some words of them, like why are you playing? You know, like 5 00:00:17.679 --> 00:00:23.120 being hot? Bro and co Holt Marnie Winfield for little things that I appreciate 6 00:00:23.160 --> 00:00:27.000 now in life. And this gas station is the gas station of all gas 7 00:00:27.000 --> 00:00:30.839 stations. And what makes it so special it's got like a coffee bar in 8 00:00:30.879 --> 00:00:37.359 there, kind of It is the twenty ninth of May twenty twenty three. 9 00:00:37.399 --> 00:00:40.840 My name is Cory Winfield. My name is Martie Winfield. So welcome to 10 00:00:40.880 --> 00:00:43.920 the two seventeen Recovery podcasts. Marnie, has been a couple of years since 11 00:00:43.920 --> 00:00:47.159 you've been on. It seems like night years, but it's been a minute. 12 00:00:47.399 --> 00:00:52.079 Oh man, you see it feels like years, it does. And 13 00:00:52.159 --> 00:00:54.719 we can emails left and right. Where's Marnie when you're coming back? What 14 00:00:54.840 --> 00:01:00.159 happened? Now you're making stuff up, but could have happened. People they 15 00:01:00.159 --> 00:01:02.880 want their money, you know, they want the yang to the yang. 16 00:01:02.920 --> 00:01:07.000 It's what they want. It's just not the same or maybe that's just me. 17 00:01:07.680 --> 00:01:11.280 Well, but both maybe I think so you get what I'm saying. 18 00:01:11.480 --> 00:01:15.159 M I missed you. That's what I'm saying now, So what's up? 19 00:01:15.200 --> 00:01:18.560 What's what's going on? You called this podcast to order tonight, I did. 20 00:01:18.760 --> 00:01:23.040 I did it' I miss it. It is part of my program, 21 00:01:22.439 --> 00:01:26.959 um, you know, it's you started it kind of as a way is 22 00:01:26.079 --> 00:01:30.040 one of the pieces of what it is that you do to keep yourself sober, 23 00:01:30.079 --> 00:01:34.120 and then I've sort of incorporated it into my program. So kind of 24 00:01:34.120 --> 00:01:38.920 like when you go a minute without going to a meeting, you know, 25 00:01:40.120 --> 00:01:42.879 same kind of feeling like I need to recharge my batteries, get back in 26 00:01:42.959 --> 00:01:49.200 the hot seat and talk about what's going on. Got to Yeah, at 27 00:01:49.280 --> 00:01:52.200 least that's for me, and i'd sit on the last episode. I think 28 00:01:52.280 --> 00:02:00.959 with Mitch and Adam, maybe that I really need to start getting back to 29 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:04.840 the Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday schedule because it's something that you know, it 30 00:02:04.920 --> 00:02:07.159 was Sundays for a while too early on, and it was something like you 31 00:02:07.159 --> 00:02:09.879 said, it kept me sober, you know, something I started to keep 32 00:02:09.919 --> 00:02:15.759 myself sober and to hold myself accountable. And yeah, I've been busier and 33 00:02:15.879 --> 00:02:21.639 sometimes I'm even more tired than I was before. And the podcast kind of 34 00:02:21.680 --> 00:02:23.479 goes to the wayside now and it's like, wait a minute, you know, 35 00:02:23.680 --> 00:02:28.879 you start slipping in one area. What's next? You know? And 36 00:02:29.120 --> 00:02:31.080 they say in early recovery, watched that and be very careful of that. 37 00:02:31.719 --> 00:02:35.680 If there's something like the podcast, it could be going to church, could 38 00:02:35.680 --> 00:02:38.000 be going to meetings, it could be whatever it is. For other people, 39 00:02:38.199 --> 00:02:42.840 they stopped doing it, and then they let their guard down, and 40 00:02:42.879 --> 00:02:46.159 then they stopped doing other things, and the next thing you know, they're 41 00:02:46.199 --> 00:02:49.560 out there in the situation. And I'm not saying I'm anywhere near this, 42 00:02:49.639 --> 00:02:53.039 but I don't want to be either. They're out there in a situation. 43 00:02:53.039 --> 00:02:53.840 It hits them and they're like, oh, I could just do one more. 44 00:02:54.719 --> 00:02:58.360 I know, one hundred percent in my mind, I cannot do one. 45 00:03:00.479 --> 00:03:02.800 Not if I want this life that I've built, which I do. 46 00:03:02.960 --> 00:03:08.120 It's way better life than when I was, you know, addicted to alcohol, 47 00:03:08.400 --> 00:03:12.879 and I just I just don't want to go back to that life again. 48 00:03:12.919 --> 00:03:15.800 So I think I just need to recommit, make a plan, make 49 00:03:15.840 --> 00:03:20.080 a day, make a time, and maybe maybe it's not Tuesdays Thursdays, 50 00:03:20.080 --> 00:03:22.479 and Saturday anymore. I mean we change that kind of when you were going 51 00:03:22.520 --> 00:03:24.400 to school a little bit because we just do that. Those days weren't going 52 00:03:24.439 --> 00:03:29.360 to work, so maybe we kind of really do it. And now I 53 00:03:29.400 --> 00:03:35.120 got the North the North Side studio as well, so it's like that's another 54 00:03:35.159 --> 00:03:38.280 reason that I shouldn't have these excuses. All I couldn't do them today as 55 00:03:38.319 --> 00:03:42.479 tired, right because I pay those people. I can bring them the office 56 00:03:42.479 --> 00:03:45.199 anytime. But get in here, sit down and listen to me talking about 57 00:03:45.199 --> 00:03:46.919 you're on the clock. Sit down, it's a podcast. The one thing 58 00:03:46.960 --> 00:03:51.439 I don't really like like because you have your microphone and the studio in the 59 00:03:51.439 --> 00:03:53.879 North studio has two of those microphones, and I'm not a big fan. 60 00:03:53.639 --> 00:03:55.919 Um this was the one I'm talking to right now. Yeah, you don't 61 00:03:55.919 --> 00:03:59.199 like it. I don't know. Maybe to me it just sounds weird. 62 00:03:59.199 --> 00:04:01.240 It sounds different. Well, obviously it's different microphone that I have right now. 63 00:04:01.960 --> 00:04:05.639 Is the microphone I have now is different than you rs in the studio 64 00:04:06.240 --> 00:04:10.039 and then the other studio, I have two microphones that are the same as 65 00:04:10.080 --> 00:04:15.959 yours. But to me it just sounds weird. I don't know. Here 66 00:04:16.000 --> 00:04:18.959 in radio, I'll so you can talk. Yeah, it just it just 67 00:04:19.000 --> 00:04:23.160 sounds weird. I don't know. I have to listen to them back and 68 00:04:23.240 --> 00:04:26.680 see if I can tell the difference between this episode. In the last episode, 69 00:04:28.680 --> 00:04:35.160 we were with you your mom today and her friend Ron. He's a 70 00:04:35.160 --> 00:04:40.560 big fan of him and Tyrone or Buddies, and they're both from the Detroit 71 00:04:40.639 --> 00:04:46.079 area and so they have that bond together. And he was saying, or 72 00:04:46.160 --> 00:04:48.560 he was asking, when's the last time I had Tyrone on and sol him. 73 00:04:48.560 --> 00:04:50.120 I was like, well, he was with us at the you fam 74 00:04:50.240 --> 00:04:54.759 rally and we did some some live breaks and he took the wireless out. 75 00:04:55.480 --> 00:04:57.439 He's like, okay, i'll have to listen to that. You know, 76 00:04:57.480 --> 00:05:00.160 I'll have to give give a listen. I was like, whoa, it's 77 00:05:00.160 --> 00:05:03.000 probably not gonna what you're gonna be used to hearing. And he just kind 78 00:05:03.000 --> 00:05:05.399 of looked at me, and I was like, you'll understand once you started 79 00:05:05.439 --> 00:05:12.920 listening, you know. But I don't know. Hopefully he's not too I 80 00:05:12.920 --> 00:05:19.160 don't want to say thrown off, but off put whatever. He's pretty flexible 81 00:05:19.160 --> 00:05:21.879 guy. I think he'll and he knows you, yeah he does, and 82 00:05:21.920 --> 00:05:26.759 I bust his balls all the time. So yeah, maybe he's still listening 83 00:05:26.759 --> 00:05:28.800 to this. He's like, yeah, I know, Corey, bust of 84 00:05:28.800 --> 00:05:33.160 my balls on your podcast. But yeah, we're not for everybody, you 85 00:05:33.199 --> 00:05:35.759 know, and I'm not for everybody and that's cool and I get that. 86 00:05:35.839 --> 00:05:41.839 And you know, my humor doesn't reflect everybody. You know. Some people 87 00:05:41.879 --> 00:05:44.759 just don't get us. Some people just don't like me because my voice is 88 00:05:44.759 --> 00:05:50.639 all sexy and stuff. Yeah, I love social media what's up now? 89 00:05:50.720 --> 00:05:53.879 But it is what it is. And like I said, do this for 90 00:05:53.959 --> 00:05:58.000 my own recovery and it's fun for me. And the video we made the 91 00:05:58.040 --> 00:06:00.360 other day was was fun making. And that kind of stressed out because I 92 00:06:00.399 --> 00:06:03.759 was like, oh, this is gonna suck, Like nobody's gonna nobody's gonna 93 00:06:03.800 --> 00:06:06.720 think this is even funny or even get it and understand it. And I 94 00:06:06.720 --> 00:06:09.399 start putting it together and I'm like, you know, it came out a 95 00:06:09.439 --> 00:06:12.120 lot better than I thought I was going to. So first I thought, 96 00:06:12.160 --> 00:06:14.279 man, I'm wasting all my time. I'm gonna put this thing together. 97 00:06:14.439 --> 00:06:16.879 No one's gonna see it, and it's gonna suck, and we should just 98 00:06:16.920 --> 00:06:19.240 be doing like Hi, I'm Corey. It comes to the grand opening, 99 00:06:19.759 --> 00:06:24.759 because we're having a grand opening of the two seventeen Recovery Center on June eighth, 100 00:06:24.839 --> 00:06:30.240 eleven to two and try Ver City, Michigan, and that's we just 101 00:06:30.279 --> 00:06:32.240 need to do like real videos of us saying, hey, come come out 102 00:06:32.319 --> 00:06:34.720 join us. It's gonna be hot dogs, whatever, and then we can 103 00:06:34.720 --> 00:06:38.360 share that stuff. I was like, man, that's probably more more effective, 104 00:06:38.399 --> 00:06:43.360 just short and sweet, and this really isn't meant to gain traction for 105 00:06:43.480 --> 00:06:46.839 that grand opening. This is just made to be silly and show up people 106 00:06:46.839 --> 00:06:49.519 in recovery can have fun. Yeah, that was the purpose of that video. 107 00:06:50.199 --> 00:06:53.079 But I think it turned out a lot better than what I thought it 108 00:06:53.160 --> 00:06:58.959 was. It's very much like it reminds me of The Office, the show. 109 00:07:00.399 --> 00:07:01.439 Yeah, I just kind of had the idea. We were driving back 110 00:07:01.480 --> 00:07:03.680 the other day and I was like, you know, we should probably do 111 00:07:03.720 --> 00:07:08.040 this and that will be kind of cute and funny or whatever. And I 112 00:07:08.079 --> 00:07:11.839 think the start, I mean, they're all Mitch does a great job, 113 00:07:11.959 --> 00:07:15.959 Adam does a great job, Justin does a great job. You did a 114 00:07:15.959 --> 00:07:18.639 great job. Like everybody really did a really good job in that it was 115 00:07:18.680 --> 00:07:24.160 fun, like Justin's look like Adam when because he came in the other day 116 00:07:24.519 --> 00:07:27.920 and I was editing it and he looked at it for a minute and they 117 00:07:27.920 --> 00:07:30.639 were all dying. When it comes to Justin's part and he does this look 118 00:07:30.759 --> 00:07:34.639 in the camera, it's yeah, oh my good. So are you gonna 119 00:07:34.639 --> 00:07:36.839 put that on? How are you gonna how are people going to watch this? 120 00:07:38.480 --> 00:07:42.240 Um well, I still gonna get Tyrone incorporated into it. You want 121 00:07:42.240 --> 00:07:46.360 to redo your part, just one part of you? But I don't know. 122 00:07:46.360 --> 00:07:51.000 I thought you were really good. Um Man. I don't know when 123 00:07:51.040 --> 00:07:55.519 it when it gets put all together, which I have no idea. I 124 00:07:55.519 --> 00:07:59.600 have other things to do tomorrow, Okay, can't be spending time doing that 125 00:08:00.079 --> 00:08:01.959 work like in my free times when I've been doing this stuff, right, 126 00:08:03.079 --> 00:08:09.160 um So, yeah, I don't know. But on YouTube probably, you 127 00:08:09.160 --> 00:08:13.920 know, definitely, it'll be on our website. Yeah, everybody has to 128 00:08:13.000 --> 00:08:18.000 check it out. It's cute. But yeah, everybody did such a great 129 00:08:18.079 --> 00:08:22.279 job and I was really proud of them. The outtakes too, Like the 130 00:08:22.319 --> 00:08:24.720 outtakes, I should just cut those up and put those in there. Those 131 00:08:24.759 --> 00:08:28.879 are hilarious. Yeah, I bet bloopers. I love blooper. You put 132 00:08:28.879 --> 00:08:31.720 bloopers in like everything I've ever done. The only thing I think you did 133 00:08:31.720 --> 00:08:37.240 not put bloopers in is my school project, where you very much could have 134 00:08:37.320 --> 00:08:43.279 if you wanted to. But like my sister's wedding video and bloopers. Did 135 00:08:43.279 --> 00:08:50.519 our wedding video have bloopers? Oh? You did at the beginning? Then 136 00:08:50.240 --> 00:08:54.200 huh what are you talking about? That wasn't we get married? I know, 137 00:08:54.360 --> 00:09:00.159 I know our wedding video when you had you on the you had did 138 00:09:00.159 --> 00:09:01.919 you do your mess up? Oh that was at the end. Yeah. 139 00:09:03.000 --> 00:09:07.960 So I like blue person. Everybody I know who doesn't love bluepers because nobody, 140 00:09:09.080 --> 00:09:13.000 like anybody's finished product went through a lot of stuff to get to that. 141 00:09:13.399 --> 00:09:16.519 So why not add to all the crap? It Like it's numerous, 142 00:09:18.279 --> 00:09:22.039 you know, yeah, it's pretty funny and you know for me to like 143 00:09:22.039 --> 00:09:24.000 put it all together right with the bluers at the end, like I don't 144 00:09:24.000 --> 00:09:28.240 know when it's going to be done, but yeah, it's nothing that has 145 00:09:28.279 --> 00:09:33.320 to be done before the grand opening, and it's like, but it's about 146 00:09:33.720 --> 00:09:37.519 it. Yeah, And that I said something to um the mom tonight, 147 00:09:37.559 --> 00:09:39.360 you know, because she watched it and she's like, oh, it sucks. 148 00:09:39.399 --> 00:09:41.159 You should add this and that and blah blah blah, and I was 149 00:09:41.159 --> 00:09:43.600 like, oh, well, I guess that people. Some people just aren't 150 00:09:43.639 --> 00:09:46.759 gonna find it humorous. And like I said, it's not even close to 151 00:09:46.799 --> 00:09:50.480 being done. So I was like, well, oh, but um I 152 00:09:50.519 --> 00:09:54.000 said something about, well, it'd be kind of cool to maybe maybe show 153 00:09:54.039 --> 00:09:56.039 it at the grand opening. You know, people can watch the video. 154 00:09:56.200 --> 00:10:00.360 I think that would be kind of give them something to do. The hot 155 00:10:00.399 --> 00:10:03.440 dog while you're hanging out or yeah, whatever, what are we We're not 156 00:10:03.480 --> 00:10:05.440 feeding people hot dogs that aren't you. Yeah, you're gonna get the hot 157 00:10:05.440 --> 00:10:09.639 dog makers that we have, like George Twurman. I don't know, I've 158 00:10:09.679 --> 00:10:13.320 only heard of them. They're just little ones. I can make like three 159 00:10:13.360 --> 00:10:15.840 hot dogs at a time. Oh no, that's not going to work them. 160 00:10:16.240 --> 00:10:20.159 Yeah, well, we'll just keep people waiting, ie people wanting more. 161 00:10:20.279 --> 00:10:24.240 That's what's the name of the game. And like Sam's Club, like 162 00:10:24.279 --> 00:10:28.799 you could just give them like half years, like a bite with like a 163 00:10:28.840 --> 00:10:33.159 tooth pick back in six minutes, the other half of microwave going all the 164 00:10:33.240 --> 00:10:35.840 time, go stir the relish. Who doesn't love? Who doesn't love? 165 00:10:35.879 --> 00:10:45.519 Costco Test Day esterday? Yeah, Like I wonder if you just like waited 166 00:10:45.600 --> 00:10:48.480 how long it took for people to tell you, like you need to you 167 00:10:48.519 --> 00:10:50.960 can't have anymore, because I mean they'll they'll like, let's tape. You're 168 00:10:52.000 --> 00:10:54.279 like, oh, that's really delicious, and then you like grab another one 169 00:10:54.279 --> 00:10:56.240 and walk away like nobody says anything, but what have you just stood there 170 00:10:56.799 --> 00:11:03.120 and just like kept like picking up the same poles and then she they would 171 00:11:03.159 --> 00:11:07.440 be like, um, you're only like is there a maximum that people are 172 00:11:07.879 --> 00:11:11.639 um? And like you validate the whole time. Well, that didn't have 173 00:11:11.679 --> 00:11:15.000 a whole pepperoni on it, and he didn't get a bite that has the 174 00:11:15.000 --> 00:11:18.080 whole pepperoni on it. Yeah. Think about these deep dish pizzas. Is 175 00:11:18.120 --> 00:11:20.960 I don't know if I like them till I've had the whole thing keep them 176 00:11:20.960 --> 00:11:24.799 coming. Is that from a crust piece or is that a midpiece? Yeah? 177 00:11:24.799 --> 00:11:26.960 I want to make stra with the whole Are you cooking the whole pizza 178 00:11:28.000 --> 00:11:31.879 today? Yeah? Okay? Can you just you have to put it in 179 00:11:31.000 --> 00:11:35.720 this little give me dipping sauce, baby, the whole thing to me, 180 00:11:35.240 --> 00:11:39.600 little salt just go up there and just like, hey, I'm here for 181 00:11:39.679 --> 00:11:45.559 the pick up for Windfield. Yeah, large pizza so they called it in 182 00:11:46.559 --> 00:11:50.639 or you like, order it special, Like can I hear that extra extra 183 00:11:52.200 --> 00:11:58.200 something extra donut, pepperonis or mushrooms or something. Yeah, go to the 184 00:12:01.519 --> 00:12:05.919 produce section and grab an onion, get some knife, start cutting it up, 185 00:12:05.159 --> 00:12:09.360 just breaking into a huge thing, one of those gigantic ketchups for like 186 00:12:11.440 --> 00:12:15.919 chicken nuggets. You put those nuggets in this. You can go up with 187 00:12:15.960 --> 00:12:18.840 like plastic wear. You just walk up with a chicken, old chicken. 188 00:12:18.879 --> 00:12:22.240 Here you go, man, throw this on there. See what it does 189 00:12:22.279 --> 00:12:26.240 with this. Oh no, I'm not trying to buy the chick. I'm 190 00:12:26.240 --> 00:12:28.080 trying to bout that oven. And I don't know why I thought of that. 191 00:12:28.120 --> 00:12:31.240 I'm just seeing like the crazy, like the funny stuff that's funny that 192 00:12:31.320 --> 00:12:35.679 people just like would love to just see bloopers from or like you know, 193 00:12:35.960 --> 00:12:41.000 like people try to do because who I mean, people wouldn't know what to 194 00:12:41.039 --> 00:12:46.039 do, but it'd be funny. He's cracked to watch. Damn the thing. 195 00:12:46.039 --> 00:12:50.440 I'm still kicking myself over as not recording Tyrone in the Botaskey Walmart. 196 00:12:50.000 --> 00:12:54.080 M honey, it was the funny, one of the funniest things I've ever 197 00:12:54.120 --> 00:12:56.840 seen in my life. It was, Oh my god, I don't even 198 00:12:56.879 --> 00:13:01.480 know. It was just such a magical moment because here's Tyrone from Detroit and 199 00:13:01.559 --> 00:13:07.960 Potoski going into Walmart and the greeter and Dustin wearing that cape said captain save 200 00:13:09.000 --> 00:13:13.799 a hoe, and that greeter she's probably eighty ish and just like, oh, 201 00:13:13.879 --> 00:13:18.120 hi, what's seven? What's the cape? Saying like she was really 202 00:13:18.120 --> 00:13:24.000 like inquisitive, and then Tyrone just dropping on it. It says captain save 203 00:13:24.039 --> 00:13:28.159 a hoe, and she's just like what the smile on her face I still 204 00:13:28.159 --> 00:13:31.480 see it, cocks her head, looks up at him, Captain save a 205 00:13:31.559 --> 00:13:35.519 hole. And then Tyrone just calmly just looking at her, going, no, 206 00:13:37.879 --> 00:13:41.960 Captain save a ho oh, you know, like a lady of the 207 00:13:41.120 --> 00:13:45.440 night, and you know how Tyrone does. And oh my god. Her 208 00:13:45.480 --> 00:13:50.679 disreaction of like oh, and then Tyrone looking and go, yeah, he 209 00:13:50.840 --> 00:13:56.919 saved them. Chris Chris too. Chris was there and he was dying and 210 00:13:56.039 --> 00:14:00.879 his laugh is infectious. So I'm seeing all this ham and I'm just losing 211 00:14:00.879 --> 00:14:03.799 my mind, going I just turned the camera off, like not even twenty 212 00:14:03.879 --> 00:14:05.519 seconds ago, Like if I just would have been like, yeah, let's 213 00:14:05.559 --> 00:14:13.639 roll in here, let's just keep filming. Oh man, so no, 214 00:14:13.799 --> 00:14:16.159 I just always keep filming. But no, but yeah, it those funny 215 00:14:16.200 --> 00:14:22.840 things in those funny moments of people, like real encounters and interactions are hilarious 216 00:14:22.840 --> 00:14:28.279 sometimes and whether or not planned, or somebody doesn't know what's going to happen, 217 00:14:28.399 --> 00:14:31.639 you know, and it's just improv it's it can be pretty good. 218 00:14:31.639 --> 00:14:35.679 It can be pretty bad too, And all of this stuff and all of 219 00:14:35.679 --> 00:14:41.480 these good memories and moments and laughter and stuff is all completely sober. Like 220 00:14:41.759 --> 00:14:45.679 how awesome is that? Yeah, so somebody says, well, you can't 221 00:14:45.720 --> 00:14:46.759 do that, or you want to do it, don't worry about what other 222 00:14:46.759 --> 00:14:48.519 people think. You know, you have to get to that point of all 223 00:14:48.559 --> 00:14:52.480 right, somebody's gonna be hating in you anyway. Somebody's hating on you because 224 00:14:52.480 --> 00:14:56.360 you're sober right now, straight up. Somebody cannot wait for you to fail. 225 00:14:56.759 --> 00:14:58.080 Yep, that's how it is. Let mean it go. That's just 226 00:14:58.159 --> 00:15:01.720 I don't know if we do that as a whole nation, a whole human 227 00:15:03.000 --> 00:15:05.960 race. Thing. It's we build people up and then we want to watch 228 00:15:05.000 --> 00:15:09.360 them fall, and then we laugh at them when they do. You know, 229 00:15:09.960 --> 00:15:16.200 Ron today was talking about the swimmer Phelps, Michael Phelps, and I 230 00:15:16.279 --> 00:15:24.720 remember hearing people like talking trash because he had tested positive for marijuana or something, 231 00:15:24.919 --> 00:15:26.559 and then like other people are saying he's doing these other drugs, and 232 00:15:28.240 --> 00:15:31.639 it's just like people wanted to like burn them up, you know. But 233 00:15:31.799 --> 00:15:33.840 here he was winning all these gold medals. People are like, oh, 234 00:15:33.879 --> 00:15:37.440 you're the greatest man, And now what because he does some drugs or make 235 00:15:37.519 --> 00:15:43.240 some bad choices mistakes Like we all make them, we all make bad mistakes, 236 00:15:43.440 --> 00:15:48.000 horrible mistakes, and I don't know, that's just kind of a society. 237 00:15:48.000 --> 00:15:52.240 So don't worry about what people are saying about you. Adam was telling 238 00:15:52.240 --> 00:15:56.240 me there's a guy he was talking to kind of helping out with recovery coaching 239 00:15:56.240 --> 00:15:58.080 stuff, and he was wanting to do YouTube videos and stuff like that, 240 00:15:58.120 --> 00:16:00.240 and I was like, dude, definitely, you know, like help the 241 00:16:00.320 --> 00:16:06.080 dude with it, you know, if you can. And he said that 242 00:16:06.080 --> 00:16:08.840 he brought up the podcast to the guy, you know, saying, look, 243 00:16:10.440 --> 00:16:11.879 you know, Corey started the podcast as you know, a way to 244 00:16:11.919 --> 00:16:15.240 just keep sober and something for him. And Adam and I were talking about 245 00:16:15.279 --> 00:16:18.600 it, and it gets it gave me something to do and if somebody's out 246 00:16:18.639 --> 00:16:22.080 there and they're new in recovery and they don't know what to do. I 247 00:16:22.159 --> 00:16:25.480 remember that feeling of just Auntie, like what do I do right now? 248 00:16:25.559 --> 00:16:26.279 Like, okay, I'll go to a meeting and I get hoping to meet. 249 00:16:26.320 --> 00:16:29.200 I'm like, all right, what do I do right now? All 250 00:16:29.240 --> 00:16:32.519 right? I'll try to watch TV? Well, that to me is a 251 00:16:32.519 --> 00:16:33.799 trigger. You know, that's all we do is get drunk and watch TV. 252 00:16:33.919 --> 00:16:37.919 So you think that's a good idea. Now, But if you can 253 00:16:38.000 --> 00:16:41.840 do a podcast, if you can be around other people invite them on the 254 00:16:41.879 --> 00:16:44.559 podcast, you know, and if you can put videos together, if you 255 00:16:44.559 --> 00:16:47.600 can do something, you know, you need something to replace the drug of 256 00:16:47.679 --> 00:16:52.879 choice and that boredom or downtime that you have. You know, it's important 257 00:16:52.919 --> 00:16:56.799 that you replace. That was something that you'd like to do or interested in. 258 00:16:56.159 --> 00:17:03.039 Yep, for sure. Sorry, taking a drink of some delicious stuff 259 00:17:03.039 --> 00:17:11.880 that the dentist told me not to drinking. Yeah, dentist said that's bad 260 00:17:11.920 --> 00:17:15.440 for you. I didn't know that dentists, so that I wonder why Actually 261 00:17:15.440 --> 00:17:19.559 she was a dental hygienist. I think about why, why is powering not 262 00:17:19.640 --> 00:17:22.880 good for your teeth. I said, yeah, but I drink that stuff 263 00:17:22.920 --> 00:17:26.039 that I don't have no sugar in it. She said, yeah, that's 264 00:17:26.079 --> 00:17:30.920 still really bad for your teeth. Huh, I said, call her B 265 00:17:32.079 --> 00:17:36.279 word. No you didn't, okay, yeah, just keep me PULSI Okay, 266 00:17:36.279 --> 00:17:40.319 I didn't. I jumped out of that chair. I said, I 267 00:17:40.839 --> 00:17:45.640 I ain't messing with you. Don't you clean my teeth? Could you go 268 00:17:45.680 --> 00:17:48.799 into the dentist. That's the moral of that story. Mmmmmm. Yeah. 269 00:17:48.799 --> 00:17:52.839 But we're gonna get some insurance. M mmmm. I think what a couple 270 00:17:52.839 --> 00:18:00.920 of days people gonna lose their insurance. Man. Yeah, sorry, because 271 00:18:00.960 --> 00:18:03.880 the Medicaid thing or whatever. I know, because of the COVID's is over. 272 00:18:04.119 --> 00:18:07.839 It's over. I heard about that. Yeah, yeah, we'll see. 273 00:18:08.720 --> 00:18:14.000 But hopefully people can get that stuff figured out. And now they were 274 00:18:14.000 --> 00:18:18.039 sending us stuff in the mail. I just kept throwing it away. It's 275 00:18:18.079 --> 00:18:22.160 like, oh no, because I don't think we can be qualified for the 276 00:18:22.039 --> 00:18:26.319 for the stuff that they had been given me. And you know, you've 277 00:18:26.359 --> 00:18:32.000 had insurance or whatever, but from here you're gonna have double insurance. You 278 00:18:32.079 --> 00:18:34.480 had to figure that out. But that was fun. That was super fun 279 00:18:34.519 --> 00:18:38.359 getting insurance for like the company. I've never done that before. Yeah, 280 00:18:38.720 --> 00:18:44.240 my god, the word fun, But okay, it's fun if you learn 281 00:18:45.160 --> 00:18:48.559 and not just learn the easy way, but learn the hard way, the 282 00:18:48.559 --> 00:18:52.680 hardest way you can learn. That's the way I learned it, and then 283 00:18:52.680 --> 00:18:56.599 I found out a bunch of other stuff that I had to learn. So 284 00:18:56.640 --> 00:19:00.079 that was a lot of fun. But now hopefully will have some insurance and 285 00:19:00.839 --> 00:19:04.119 they're trying to include this crappy Donald plan. Like all this stuff's new to 286 00:19:04.160 --> 00:19:07.799 me, you know, so I'm just walking blindly into all this, which 287 00:19:07.839 --> 00:19:11.759 is actually it's kind of fun. One day, I'm gonna look back at 288 00:19:11.799 --> 00:19:14.920 this and go, man, remember those days, just like I say, 289 00:19:15.000 --> 00:19:17.160 now, like two years ago, Like, man, remember those days, 290 00:19:18.480 --> 00:19:22.119 Yeah, I remember them. I'll remember this too. But those those things 291 00:19:22.119 --> 00:19:23.480 that you learn along the way and as you're going through them, that's that's 292 00:19:23.480 --> 00:19:26.440 how people learn. Yeah, you know, so don't remember be afraid of 293 00:19:26.519 --> 00:19:33.440 doing something that you've never done before, not even go home the sexual part. 294 00:19:33.480 --> 00:19:36.599 Honey, you're looking at me like, don't know. I was actually 295 00:19:36.599 --> 00:19:41.440 thinking that I've learned that lesson too, is is if you don't know how 296 00:19:41.480 --> 00:19:45.400 to do something, don't try to struggle through it. Just stop and ask 297 00:19:45.440 --> 00:19:48.880 somebody, ask questions, ask some and don't be embarrassed that you don't know 298 00:19:48.920 --> 00:19:52.559 the answer. There was a time when they didn't know the answer either. 299 00:19:52.920 --> 00:19:56.400 Yeah, you know, And it's not because you weren't paying attention. It's 300 00:19:56.400 --> 00:20:00.880 not because you're dumb. It's because it wasn't you actually haven't been taught that, 301 00:20:00.039 --> 00:20:04.319 or maybe you didn't retain it whatever, or you're unfamiliar with it. 302 00:20:04.400 --> 00:20:07.559 And people make assumptions about what you do know and what you don't know. 303 00:20:08.279 --> 00:20:11.559 But there's nothing wrong with just being like, I'm working on this, I 304 00:20:11.640 --> 00:20:15.960 want to get it done, I know my end goal. I'm just where 305 00:20:15.000 --> 00:20:18.119 I'm having troubles. Can you help guide me? The only thing you need 306 00:20:18.160 --> 00:20:22.680 to ask yourself before you jump into something is do you have the desire to 307 00:20:22.720 --> 00:20:26.960 do it? Do you have the desire to learn it? And maybe you're 308 00:20:26.960 --> 00:20:30.599 like, yeah, I really want to raise chickens. You're like, wow, 309 00:20:30.599 --> 00:20:34.279 that's something I always want to do is raise chickens. You start raising 310 00:20:34.359 --> 00:20:37.559 chickens and you're like, man, how my chickens died because I didn't have 311 00:20:37.599 --> 00:20:41.000 a heat lamp And you're like that was expensive mistakes And then you buy a 312 00:20:41.000 --> 00:20:42.720 heat lamp, you buy some more chickens. But after a year you're like, 313 00:20:42.759 --> 00:20:45.359 I don't like this chicken stuff anymore. Like I don't, this is 314 00:20:45.400 --> 00:20:49.359 not for me. Switch it up, sell your heat lamps, get what 315 00:20:49.440 --> 00:20:53.240 you can, and move on to something else. But don't just keep with 316 00:20:53.279 --> 00:20:56.720 it because you started it and damn it, I'm going to finish it. 317 00:20:56.920 --> 00:21:00.279 Like that could really trouble a lot of people up. But if you have 318 00:21:00.319 --> 00:21:03.599 a desire to learn it, then hey, you know what, I guess 319 00:21:03.640 --> 00:21:06.240 what, you can look back and go up. I tried the chicken thing. 320 00:21:07.279 --> 00:21:10.880 That's not for me, but I tried it, and I did it 321 00:21:11.000 --> 00:21:12.319 the best I could. But then I realized, no, it's just not 322 00:21:12.400 --> 00:21:15.640 for me. And then move on to something else. You know, don't 323 00:21:18.839 --> 00:21:22.400 don't just start I'm gonna do this because I'm gonna do it. But just 324 00:21:22.440 --> 00:21:23.480 ask yourself, like I said, do you really have a true desire? 325 00:21:23.519 --> 00:21:32.079 Because I say, like everything that you do it starts with desire. Except 326 00:21:32.279 --> 00:21:37.039 I take a shower. That's because in necessity, Yeah, I think so. 327 00:21:37.039 --> 00:21:40.519 So I don't think I desire to take a show. You do you 328 00:21:40.559 --> 00:21:42.640 desire to take a shower? I love taking showers. I desire not to 329 00:21:42.720 --> 00:21:51.359 smell bad, so maybe that's works into that somehow. Yeah, I think 330 00:21:51.400 --> 00:21:56.640 so the therapists lady, Yeah, I mean you have there's a goal embedded 331 00:21:56.640 --> 00:22:02.119 in there. So yeah, I desire to smell good. There you go, 332 00:22:02.759 --> 00:22:07.559 and to make that happen, I have to shower with soap. Sometimes 333 00:22:08.640 --> 00:22:11.960 you were a showered without soap. No I have, well, I'm sure 334 00:22:12.000 --> 00:22:15.240 I have in my life because it's been like unavailable to me. But I 335 00:22:15.279 --> 00:22:21.279 don't can't say when, not any not any time recently. I think it 336 00:22:21.319 --> 00:22:23.000 was a really bad one for me. I think I had like an accident, 337 00:22:23.119 --> 00:22:26.519 not in my pants or nothing. Oh no, but I was like, 338 00:22:26.559 --> 00:22:27.200 well, I need to jumple the shower and I was like, I 339 00:22:27.240 --> 00:22:30.640 got no soap. I was like what it was the worst possible time. 340 00:22:30.640 --> 00:22:32.519 I don't remember how long ago it was. I just remember it being in 341 00:22:32.519 --> 00:22:34.359 my head right now. So you're some not at your own house. It 342 00:22:34.480 --> 00:22:37.160 was at my mom's house or something, and there was no soap. I 343 00:22:37.160 --> 00:22:41.440 think, so yes. I don't know if I was a teenager or early 344 00:22:41.480 --> 00:22:49.759 twenties or when that was forties, late thirties, forty right, it might 345 00:22:49.799 --> 00:22:53.119 have been. Did I ever lose with my mom when I was forty. 346 00:22:55.559 --> 00:23:00.960 Oh, I don't think I did, maybe, but I know when I 347 00:23:00.039 --> 00:23:06.680 was on my alcohol tether, I stayed there. I didn't trust myself to 348 00:23:06.720 --> 00:23:12.000 go back to my apartment. I learned down a couple of stints, and 349 00:23:12.039 --> 00:23:17.359 I was like, really, I shouldn't, really, I shouldn't keep wondering 350 00:23:17.400 --> 00:23:19.039 if they're gonna really send me to jail if I go to drink again, 351 00:23:21.920 --> 00:23:25.759 they where are you going to? But then it switched for me because then 352 00:23:25.799 --> 00:23:29.720 I wanted to prove everybody wrong. I really did. I just like, 353 00:23:29.759 --> 00:23:32.400 you know what, I don't know what it's gonna take. I have no 354 00:23:32.480 --> 00:23:37.400 idea. But I got an Amazon gift card. I bought a microphone for 355 00:23:37.880 --> 00:23:42.400 Christmas, and I was gonna start a podcast with some sort and I don't 356 00:23:42.440 --> 00:23:47.599 know. It's crazy how things work sometimes how kind I'll just setting stuff up 357 00:23:47.640 --> 00:23:51.799 for you and you just you know. I had a little desire, you 358 00:23:51.839 --> 00:23:56.440 know, to even start a podcast by getting that microphone, and it was 359 00:23:56.519 --> 00:24:02.599 just I was supposed to be go to treat Man podcast. Yeah, podcast, 360 00:24:02.880 --> 00:24:06.119 Oh about my recovery. No, they're gonna make fun of me. 361 00:24:08.039 --> 00:24:12.960 I don't know. So if you know somebody, maybe you whatever, have 362 00:24:14.039 --> 00:24:18.799 a little desire, go for it. Absolutely, don't worry about what people 363 00:24:18.799 --> 00:24:22.279 think about you. Like you said, they're hating already. There's haters out 364 00:24:22.279 --> 00:24:26.079 there, that's what they do. Yeah, and you just gotta worry about 365 00:24:26.079 --> 00:24:30.240 you. Keep yourself clean, sober. If you trip, you fall, 366 00:24:30.359 --> 00:24:33.119 you mess up, get back up. Man. I'm telling you this life 367 00:24:33.160 --> 00:24:37.880 is so worth it like to be clean, to be sober, to actually 368 00:24:37.920 --> 00:24:41.319 live life again. A lot of people don't even know what that's like, 369 00:24:41.359 --> 00:24:45.319 and they think they do. And it's stuff for family members, you know, 370 00:24:45.400 --> 00:24:48.440 to try to beat some sense into their loved ones because you just can't 371 00:24:48.480 --> 00:24:56.279 do it right. It's tough as a whole nother podcast. Tune in Tuesday 372 00:24:56.319 --> 00:25:00.640 as Marnie is live from the North Studio. Shit, that's tomorrow, Yeah, 373 00:25:02.000 --> 00:25:07.799 tomorrow, Sunday. It's Monday. Dang, it's a holiday Holliday. 374 00:25:07.359 --> 00:25:14.799 M all right. We'll tune in tomorrow as we did what we're talking about 375 00:25:14.799 --> 00:25:18.880 again tomorrow. Family and I was talking about families beat it into their heads. 376 00:25:19.319 --> 00:25:23.519 You can't, you really can't. I want to talk to you about 377 00:25:23.519 --> 00:25:29.400 that. And tomorrow we have a gamble. There's gambling support gambling Addiction Support 378 00:25:29.440 --> 00:25:33.920 meeting at the office at the two seventeen Recovery Center in Traverse City, six 379 00:25:33.960 --> 00:25:40.400 o'clock. And I was talking to this guy at this radio station because they're 380 00:25:40.440 --> 00:25:47.680 supposed to be doing stuff for people who have problem or how gambling has affected 381 00:25:47.720 --> 00:25:52.400 someoney or somebody's family negatively. Then they're supposed to kind of do some stuff 382 00:25:52.400 --> 00:25:55.079 and all they, you know, just run some commercials called eight one eight 383 00:25:55.200 --> 00:26:03.920 hundred terms yeah breathe so yeah, So we are actively involved in that. 384 00:26:04.759 --> 00:26:08.559 And I was talking to him about, Look, if there's any campaigns, 385 00:26:08.559 --> 00:26:15.279 it needs to be directed at the people, the family members, because okay, 386 00:26:15.359 --> 00:26:18.599 let's just we're gonna role play. I'm a gambler and I go out 387 00:26:18.599 --> 00:26:19.960 and I blow my whole check and now we can't pay the rent and we're 388 00:26:21.000 --> 00:26:22.720 kicked out. You're gonna be so pissed off at me and you're gonna want 389 00:26:22.720 --> 00:26:33.960 to ring my neck or divorce you. But the person needs needs help the 390 00:26:33.519 --> 00:26:41.680 whole m Yeah, it's very It's it's as complicated as as the codependency slash 391 00:26:41.920 --> 00:26:48.880 enabling slash gray area of helping somebody when they're down and out, to helping 392 00:26:48.920 --> 00:26:53.480 feed their addiction that goes the same for gambling as it does for addiction to 393 00:26:53.599 --> 00:27:03.119 substances. There's the correlation is on camp and I mean you can like Gambler's 394 00:27:03.160 --> 00:27:08.640 Anonymous Groups, which is an offshoot of is actually an offshoot of the whole 395 00:27:10.799 --> 00:27:15.759 A program, And I mean you read it and it's literally they just change 396 00:27:15.759 --> 00:27:22.720 out the word and Taylor the all the readings and so on to have it 397 00:27:22.799 --> 00:27:27.319 be reflective of compulsive gambling. But like the family members, same thing, 398 00:27:27.599 --> 00:27:32.079 you know is like people don't know what to do. They don't know how 399 00:27:32.160 --> 00:27:34.480 to help, you know, it's not their fault, like it's you know, 400 00:27:34.559 --> 00:27:40.640 it's an addiction. And it also is co occurring with so many other 401 00:27:40.680 --> 00:27:44.759 things. I mean, you can tie you can make connections to you know, 402 00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:48.799 any drugs and alcohol, you can make connections to mental health. It's 403 00:27:48.839 --> 00:27:55.000 definitely obviously connection to suicide. We've talked about that. Family, family problems, 404 00:27:55.000 --> 00:28:00.359 obviously, employment issues, people start stealing from companies or don't go to 405 00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:04.839 work because they're out, you know, or what the list is at infinitem. 406 00:28:04.880 --> 00:28:11.480 So it's one of those things where you know, I have I'm grateful 407 00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:15.920 to say that I've never been able to identify as a compulsive gambler. I 408 00:28:15.920 --> 00:28:22.440 think to a level where I don't know that I need like an intervention or 409 00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:26.359 anything. I mean, I kind of I think I've gambled too much in 410 00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:29.839 my life at some point it like, you know that I probably shouldn't have, 411 00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:34.079 but I never was, like had that mental obsession. And I know 412 00:28:34.599 --> 00:28:37.720 that obsession because I know that obsession that I had with alcohol, and it 413 00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:41.640 was like it like it owned me. I couldn't get it out of my 414 00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:45.680 head. I needed more of it. I needed to figure out how to 415 00:28:45.680 --> 00:28:48.160 get it. I needed to figure to make sure I had enough of it. 416 00:28:48.400 --> 00:28:52.720 You know. It made me anxious when I thought I wasn't going to 417 00:28:52.759 --> 00:28:57.640 have any And it's like that's how people feel about gambling. It's like they're 418 00:28:57.680 --> 00:29:02.640 waiting. They're gonna win it there next time. It's gonna be the big 419 00:29:02.680 --> 00:29:07.559 time, you know, and it consumes them. They're gonna help all their 420 00:29:07.559 --> 00:29:10.880 family members out. Like most of them don't do it because they're like, 421 00:29:10.920 --> 00:29:14.440 man, I want to hit that and win a million dollars and go fly 422 00:29:14.519 --> 00:29:18.839 off and be great by myself. No, they're they're like, hey, 423 00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:22.279 look I'm gonna hit this big and I'm gonna buy my son a car, 424 00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:26.240 pay for college. I'm gonna I want to make everybody happy, and I 425 00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:30.920 want to be the the night and shining armor. I'm gonna come flying in 426 00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:33.759 and fix everybody's problems, you know, And it doesn't work that way, 427 00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:37.279 it's the opposite. But see a lot of people don't don't realize that. 428 00:29:37.319 --> 00:29:40.640 And then the person who gambles, like, we could blame it on drugs. 429 00:29:40.720 --> 00:29:41.960 All the drugs made me do it, all the alcohol change me, 430 00:29:41.960 --> 00:29:45.759 and it did, you know, but they're just kind of like stuck there 431 00:29:45.799 --> 00:29:51.400 with nothing, you know, like it's it's hard to explain to somebody who 432 00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:55.519 doesn't know addiction, which clearly there's a lot of people that have no clue, 433 00:29:56.200 --> 00:29:59.880 but what that what that's like in that in that feeling and then that 434 00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:07.359 moment. So I think it's time that we kind of step up and start 435 00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:11.440 doing things a little different when it comes to people who have a problem with 436 00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:15.200 gambling and the gambling addiction when it takes over the brain. We need to 437 00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:18.759 really help those people out. We need to send them to treatment as well. 438 00:30:18.319 --> 00:30:21.759 And I know there's some places down south that do it, but I 439 00:30:21.759 --> 00:30:23.920 don't know if any in Michigan that do it, But there really needs to 440 00:30:23.920 --> 00:30:27.960 be that, and especially with more and more things just popping up with every 441 00:30:29.000 --> 00:30:30.119 sport. You can bet on this, but you turn on the radio, 442 00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:33.960 you turn on the TV, check your email, and there's some betting stuff 443 00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:37.799 going on all the damn time. As much as they're putting into that they 444 00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:41.960 need to put into you can get help and real help, not just call 445 00:30:42.079 --> 00:30:47.759 us eight hundred number. That to me is the dumbest thing. And you 446 00:30:47.839 --> 00:30:51.880 will probably agree with me when I say this. When I heard people talk 447 00:30:51.920 --> 00:30:55.359 about drink responsibly and we had different paths to get to where we're at, 448 00:30:55.759 --> 00:30:57.599 I thought, cool, any talking about me. I drink responsibly. I 449 00:30:57.720 --> 00:31:03.319 drink at home at that time. I never had a DUI. I don't 450 00:31:03.359 --> 00:31:08.599 beat up people, I don't get arrested. I'm drinking responsibly. Meanwhile, 451 00:31:08.799 --> 00:31:12.559 I liver shut down when I was thirty six. I clearly was not drinking 452 00:31:12.599 --> 00:31:15.279 responsibly. But because I never got in trouble, to me, I was 453 00:31:15.319 --> 00:31:22.359 drinking responsibly. And they're telling people, oh, gambled responsibly and more responsibly. 454 00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:30.720 Yeah, But when somebody doesn't have that help, and if somebody's trying 455 00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:33.319 to target me, with hey go to treatment or you know, I listened 456 00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:37.839 to the ticket on Dallas and they play this horrible commercial about this treatment center 457 00:31:37.920 --> 00:31:40.000 down there, and they're like, do you have a problem with drinking? 458 00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:42.640 Most people are gonna like nope, you know, if you target the family 459 00:31:42.680 --> 00:31:47.440 with the messaging, because that's who needs help, in my opinion, because 460 00:31:47.559 --> 00:31:49.359 I when you're in your active addiction like that, you don't have a problem 461 00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:53.200 until either you're out of money or in jail. Then oh shit, I 462 00:31:53.240 --> 00:31:56.559 have a problem now, and I need to ask somebody for some money now, 463 00:31:56.640 --> 00:32:00.279 and now it's a problem. And then you felt like a you know, 464 00:32:00.319 --> 00:32:02.319 a dog who's being shamed when you come running back home and you're like, 465 00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:06.400 I need some help. I need some help, And you get to 466 00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:07.400 talking to don't shoot on the rug, you know, and you're like, 467 00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:13.119 oh yeah, sorry. But then somebody helps you, and like you said, 468 00:32:13.160 --> 00:32:15.440 there's a thin line between helping and enabling. And then they get back 469 00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:19.240 on their feet again. They're like, you know what I've been doing, 470 00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:21.359 good man, I'm gonna go in there and I'm gonna win me something. 471 00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:22.680 And maybe they do. Maybe they go back and when a thousand dollars they're 472 00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:25.480 like, oh man, right back to the races, you know, and 473 00:32:27.559 --> 00:32:30.319 a lot of people don't understand that. So I think if we message the 474 00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:35.039 gambling thing, make a longer story even shorter. Now if we just target 475 00:32:35.039 --> 00:32:37.440 the family members, because I think the family members need help. They're the 476 00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:39.920 ones that can maybe talk to somebody, you know that they're the ones that 477 00:32:39.960 --> 00:32:44.359 could talk to the person maybe kind of let them see like hey, maybe 478 00:32:44.400 --> 00:32:45.880 there's a problem. Again. Maybe that doesn't help them, but at least 479 00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:51.400 it helps the family understand like, hey, Jimmy's not doing this because he 480 00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:54.480 hates the family. You know, there's something out there's something probably off with 481 00:32:54.559 --> 00:33:00.119 Jimmy, and he needs to talk to somebody about that, but he's they 482 00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:05.119 hate the family. I don't know. And just like anything, the first 483 00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:08.839 step is admitting that you have a problem, recognizing that it's an issue for 484 00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:13.359 you, and then I mean, there's it is. It's different, but 485 00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:16.680 it's the same. I mean, there are interventions that you know that family 486 00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:22.160 members can do. It's not just like locking up the liquor cabinet, right, 487 00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:27.680 but it's like helping with like budgeting and like maybe even changing past codes 488 00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:30.839 and like putting things in you know, so they don't have access to funds 489 00:33:31.319 --> 00:33:36.799 that could be you know, tamper or taken from that you know, need 490 00:33:36.839 --> 00:33:39.759 to stay safe, you know, until they can earn that trust back. 491 00:33:42.160 --> 00:33:47.400 So it's a serious it's a serious addiction. It's a serious issue. It 492 00:33:47.599 --> 00:33:52.920 is. And I just think by just throwing out of eight hundred number and 493 00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:54.839 blaming the people, well, it's their prous their problem. They're the ones 494 00:33:54.880 --> 00:33:59.000 that have the problem with gambling. They're the ones that do it to themselves. 495 00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:04.160 Can we be passionate compassionate one for once? You know, it's like, 496 00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:06.759 hey, probably hope these people out, you know, because gambling and 497 00:34:06.799 --> 00:34:10.039 destroys families too. You know, like it's just it's just bad news, 498 00:34:10.039 --> 00:34:14.159 man. And you know there's some people are like, oh, I go 499 00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:15.599 to Vegas once you were a gamble It's fune okay, that's how you want 500 00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:17.599 to spend your money. Shirt. It's like people saying, oh, I 501 00:34:17.599 --> 00:34:22.119 can go out dinner and have a beer. I'm sure you can. I 502 00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:25.079 can't. Can't. Can't you hit one beer? Can't have none of it, 503 00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:28.679 you know, And there are people out there that are saying with the 504 00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:31.840 game, they can't, they can't do one penny slot can't do it, 505 00:34:32.800 --> 00:34:36.239 you know. So you know I was looking at like, oh, well, 506 00:34:36.239 --> 00:34:37.400 we do fantasy football, we do like stuff like that. Would that 507 00:34:37.440 --> 00:34:42.039 be hypocritical if I now I'm like, hey, for people who need gambling 508 00:34:42.039 --> 00:34:44.159 support, I don't think so, you know, because they say, well, 509 00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:46.239 fancy football is gambling, and I guess sure, you know, and 510 00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:50.880 I'll be very careful and mindful of it if it. If I start bett 511 00:34:50.920 --> 00:34:53.760 Non's crazy stuff, you know, then yeah, I will probably need to 512 00:34:53.800 --> 00:34:58.360 reach out for help. But you know, it's like saying, my little 513 00:34:58.360 --> 00:35:00.719 brother can't have a Beers dinner, and my stuff that can't have a beer, 514 00:35:00.719 --> 00:35:01.400 and my mom can't have it a beer the dinner. They can have 515 00:35:01.400 --> 00:35:04.920 whatever they want. You know, they're not the one with the problem. 516 00:35:04.960 --> 00:35:07.280 And you know, I would like to think that I don't have a problem 517 00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:10.360 with gambling. You know, I'm pretty sure I don't. But it doesn't 518 00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:14.039 mean that I don't want to help the people that do or the families of 519 00:35:14.039 --> 00:35:16.400 people that do. I guess that was my point to all that, and 520 00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:19.760 it could have been wrapped up. It's just that sentence, But that's cool. 521 00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:23.079 I like to hear myself talk. No, I think it's important. 522 00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:30.119 It's and I think it's it's people being vocal about the willingness to in support 523 00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:34.719 of people getting help and reaching out and admitting they have a problem. And 524 00:35:34.840 --> 00:35:38.079 for the family members as well, you know, like we might not identify 525 00:35:38.199 --> 00:35:43.199 with it, but we're recognizing that it's an issue. And we need more 526 00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:45.519 people like that in the world to be like, it's okay if you have 527 00:35:45.559 --> 00:35:49.360 a problem, like we want to help you. Who doesn't want to help 528 00:35:49.400 --> 00:35:54.599 somebody who has a problem, you know? Yep, that's my why in 529 00:35:54.679 --> 00:35:59.679 life. I just want to make it easier for the next generations to ask 530 00:35:59.719 --> 00:36:05.440 for that help. That's where it starts. And for people to realize that 531 00:36:05.440 --> 00:36:08.400 they have a problem is probably the toughest thing. So for sure, to 532 00:36:08.719 --> 00:36:12.880 touch the families to let them know it could be okay one day. But 533 00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:19.239 yeah, so that's all I have. I think, did you want to 534 00:36:19.239 --> 00:36:22.079 talk about something? You're good? I'm good. Sure you called this podcast 535 00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:25.360 to order. I know it's been a good one. Okay, it was 536 00:36:25.400 --> 00:36:32.760 fun. Ye next to the work week, let's talk you too. That's 537 00:36:32.760 --> 00:36:37.639 gonna talk some more off the radio. All right, everybody have a great 538 00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:40.760 week. Oh I hope everyone had a great weekend. Yeah, yeah, 539 00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:45.559 it's fun on this Monday. It's Monday. The weekend's gonna be here sooner 540 00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:47.800 it will. It's a shorter week, this feels yeah, wait to get 541 00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:51.880 that going on? Sure? Yeah, all right, every good night. 542 00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:59.159 Thanks for listening to the two seventeen Recovery Podcast. 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