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It's time to talks for its time
for the show. You hear this song

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on the radio? Better fast,
let me get that photograph. Sports Talk

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Radio starting now. What's up everybody, and welcome episode one hundred and ninety

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three. Um, let me host
National Collector's Convention show. Of course,

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my name is the d h Or
Drew and joining me my cohost mister Scott

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Rappit for who I actually got to
see last week? What's going on?

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Brother? Oh dude, it was
dude. It was awesome getting a chance

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to you know, actually be in
person the one time a year that that

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actually happens. I wish I wish
you hadn't been tied to the booth,

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you know so much, so we
had more of a chance to walk around

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and talk about more about Pat Wager. Yeah, exactly, so um,

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but no, it was definitely good. Good to actually see in person.

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You know. It was really funny
because on my phone while we were at

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the National you know how you get
your memory or a Facebook, you know

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how you get your Facebook memories.
It's like you have a memory one year

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ago today was Scott Rapp before I
clicked on it, and it was our

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one year photo together and I was
like, we just took that yesterday,

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I know, and we had I
don't know if we took that many pictures

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together. I know we got one
shot with Denny, Yeah, that he

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took, and I'm a little this
point. He didn't, you know,

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add that into his photo dump.
You better? Oh, I know exactly,

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but but here's the thing. I
know. He also, uh,

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he also took a shot with Mike
Geo, our buddy from Sports Card Nonsense,

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and that didn't make the photo dump
either, So both Mikey, we're

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giving him a little crap about that
on Instagram, so of course, but

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no before we do get sorry,
a big shout out to Danny. It

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was great to meet. If you
guys don't know, Denny's cards on Instagram,

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wonderful, wonderful guy and a major
supporter of this show and everything we

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do. And he has a new
show out that's absolutely amazing as well,

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so go check him out. But
definitely one of the people I was most

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excited about seeing this weekend. Was
great. Yeah, we meet him.

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So Danny, when you listen to
this, thanks for everything you do and

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it's great meeting you, bud.
But hey, next time, we gotta

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make the photo of him. I
mean at least put on the final cut,

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I know. And I'm gonna tell
you that dude is an absolute riot.

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Oh oh yes, Yeah, that
dude is so much fun. Yes,

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you know, it's like definitely one
of the guys that you know,

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I'm I'm hoping to get a chance
to hang out with, you know,

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the massive ball of positive energy.
Like he's having so much fun all the

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time. He's so educated on everything, but like the way he's just like

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you said, he's just a pure
joy, just a ton of fun every

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I saw him multiple times this weekend
and it was it was awesome. And

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we're gonna have him on the show
very very soon. We're gonna do a

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post national show with him as the
next few weeks we'll be covering people well

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we talk to things like that at
the National. He will be coming on

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the show soon. But yeah,
it was great to finally get to put

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a put a face to the name
and finally get some one on one time,

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even if it wasn't a lot for
me. Yeah, and it's you

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know, it's it's weird because we
you know, we we do typically audio

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only and that's you know, with
the exception of a couple episodes A here

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and that. I'm gonna tell you
guys, I'll give you a hint and

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rates later. That is going to
change, uh, starting next week.

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Yes, we're not doing it this
week because I am at the lake on

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vacation and I don't want that that
background being there. But that's going to

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change now. But the you know, the cool thing is it's like we

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do get recognized. You get recognize
more than I do, but I do

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get recognize sometimes, and it's usually
when people like hear me talk right,

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and it's like oh yeah, um. But the guys, you know,

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it's funny because you know, the
guys that do a lot of video content

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and things like that, you see
their face, you know who they are.

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You can pick them off from a
crowd, and you kind of feel

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like you know each other, like
you don't even have to jump into like

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a introduction conversation because we all know
who we are. And it's it makes

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it very interesting. And I've always
felt that like, Okay, maybe this

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is what Hollywood is like, you
know, with all the actors and things

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like that, like they've never met
before, but they've seen each other's work.

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They know who they are. And
you know, I think the card

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community is very much like that as
well, with you know, especially with

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all the people that are putting out
content. It was it was great to

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get a chance to you know,
hang out with some of the guys that

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no you know, do put out
Definitely was um that's one of my favorite

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things to do every year. But
I would like to say to everyone that

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is listening, especially for those that
went to the National the amount of you

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came up to me this weekend that
I did not that I did not know

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at all at whatsoever, did not
know your name or anything, and talked

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about how much you guys love the
show, how much you listen to the

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show, keep doing what you're doing, so many different compliments. I was

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recognized everywhere from on the floor to
the elevator in our hotel. I think

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five different times we were inside with
different people like it was. It was

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very humbling and I greatly appreciate it. So I do want to take one

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second to just say thank you to
you guys. It was really cool.

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It was different. I mean,
obviously every year people hear you and they

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know your voice, and you know, some of the people some of the

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people that are more active on comments
and everything like that. But these were

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just random people and for that,
you know in the crowd, and so

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it just thank you guys so much. It means a lot that you listen

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and a show like this often remind
you, you know, how much kind

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of an impact we do have on
the hobby is. It can be easily

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forgotten. You know, we put
these up, they're out in space,

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and then who knows what happens exactly. Now before we get into the rest

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of our recap for the national there's
something big that happened the other day and

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it involves some of who I honestly
didn't even know was in the you know,

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the hobby in general. No,
I had no idea, and so

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we all know that, you know
what a month ago or so, a

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little over a month ago, Yes, the the one ring lord of the

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rings magic card got pulled, the
one of one sent PSA graded to nine.

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We had no idea who pulled it, but it just sold. And

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you're you were not surprised by this
as to who was the buyer, No,

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but I was because I had no
clue that he was in the hobby.

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And when I say the hobby,
I'm lumping in. I'm lumping in

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SPORTSGCG into the same into the same
collectible industry. Yeah, exactly, so

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once you tell us a little bit
about what happened. No, absolutely so.

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When the card was pulled, obviously
everyone's first question was, well,

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who pulled it? Because we saw
images of it, we saw it when

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it was graded. We never saw
it ungraded. We never saw a video

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of the pull. We never saw
who pulled it. They never their name

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public. Now I kind of see
why. But he did make a two

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point six. Now this is what's
being reported, and it was valuated at

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two million dollars. And apparently what
they're saying is that it was sold for

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two point six. But his name, the man who pulled it at least

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is Brooke Trafton. He is,
he's from Canada, and he was just

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a simple retail worker. Not like
everyone was expecting. They said it was

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given to some celebrity or some hot
box or something. Nope, just a

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regular old guy, regular collector.
That's who pulled it. He kept it

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really quiet, like you said,
went through PSA graded A nine. Probably

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would have went through Beckett had that
offer been announced before he graded it,

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but it wasn't. But he graded
the card through u PSA, got the

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nine, put it up, put
up a video right during the national right

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towards the end, and finally showing
the card ungraded like right when he pulled

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it. He had taken a video, and then he put up another video

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showing that this was his card and
that he wanted that he was a huge

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fan and wanted to get this card
to post Malone. Within forty eight hours

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of that video being posted, another
video is up of him in a room

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with post Malone. Post Malone holding
the card and confirming the deal, saying

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all right, let's do it.
Post Malone bought the card for reportedly two

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point six million dollars, shattering the
biggest sale for magic the gathering period,

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as I believe the one before that
was around I want to say, around

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one hundred and fifty thousand to one
hundred and seventy five thousand the Black Lotus

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Artist Proof autograph, which that was
the one that had the biggest sale before.

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So post Malone now owns the top
MTG cards basically in terms of sales

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in the hobby in general. But
post Malone bought the one ranked card.

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He is a huge magic player,
has been for a long time. There's

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a lot of videos you can go
out and find of him actually playing the

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game like he still plays it.
Um. But imagine, imagine showing up

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at at a tournament somewhere and you
know, you're you know, you wind

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up getting a random draw at a
table and you sit down and you know

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your opponent is post Malone. Yeah, I just I fuck it at that

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point because you know that that deck
is stacked. It's and I don't,

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like, I don't even I don't
know the game. I don't know the

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rules, you know, I do
know like with Pokemon, you can only

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go back, you know, in
tournaments, you can only go back a

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certain period of time. Yeah,
you know, so you can't play with

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cards from any face from base set, you know, ninety six, things

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like that. Um. I don't
know if Magic is the same rules or

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not, but that that kind of
that does change things. But yeah,

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if you've got these these giant cards, but I'm sure post Post can afford

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any card he wants. So if
he could, in theory, put together

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like the most ultimate deck, well
that's that's the thing. I saw a

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lot of people saying, they're like, you know, they were bashing the

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valuation like everyone does. You know, it's got to be negativity. So

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they attack the two point six blah
blah blah for this, such a waste

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of money, YadA, YadA,
YadA. Yeah, two point six million

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for him is nothing, especially for
a collector. I mean, then that's

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what we talked about when we talk
about these high end cards all the time,

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Like you may see the price tag
and say, holy shit, that's

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a ridiculously stupid price. It might
be for mine and yours and my buddies,

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tax brackets and all that, but
for the people buying these cards,

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it's not. And so I mean, I firmly see the value in this,

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especially for a collector, and I
think it's wonderful for the community in

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multiple ways. A it shines a
massive light on magic, more than they've

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had probably in I don't know twenty
some years, shining a major light on

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magic, but also bringing pop culture, bringing attention. This hit TNZ,

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This has hit all the big newspapers
and hit everything. In anytime, our

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hobby can get more mainstream. I'm
sorry. That's a great thing. I

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don't know, that is a great
thing. I will and I will say

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this guy did the right thing in
keeping it quiet on who it was.

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He basically followed the same rules that
they tell people to follow when you hit

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a you know, huge lottery jackpot. Yeah. Shut you know, shut

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your mouth, don't tell anybody sign
the back of the ticket. Hopefully he

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got himself an accountant, an a
tax attorney or something like that, because

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you know, well, I mean, you think our taxes are bad here

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Canada, holy crap. But you
know, at the same time, this

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is a guy. This he's not
you know, some huge collector. This

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isn't like, you know, Drake
dropping a ridiculous amount of money looking for

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the Lebron triple logo. Man.
No, this is a retail worker grabbing

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probably one or two boxes exactly and
now he you know, he's got life

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changing money. Yes, this is
exactly like winning the lottery. No.

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Yeah, these are the stories the
hobby needs. Yeah. But this also,

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you know, goes along what I've
I've always said about you know guys

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that rip wax is. You know, wax is very much like lottery scratch

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off tickets very much. You know, sometimes you break even, sometimes you

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lose, sometimes you wind up hitting
big. And this guy has clearly hit

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big. Yeah, life, life
changing money for him for share. I

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love it because the speculation was you
know someone but on everyone online, someone

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big got it. It's you know, it's going to be revealed that some

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you know Drake all people got the
one ring or something like that. But

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no, it's just a retail worker
in Canada, normal guy, quiet guy

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from everything I've seen, who did
the right thing documenting it pregrading. You

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can though, he kept it to
himself, which is fine. And then

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obviously obviously PSA publicized that they graded
the card. They never they'll never release

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you know, who sent it in
unless they get that, unless it's you

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know, unless they get approval,
unless you know that well of course yeah,

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if you get permission, and if
they get permission thro the guy stuff

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like that, absolutely, but what
you know, unless they do, they're

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they're not going to do that.
And you know, obviously we know that

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that offer was out there for Beckett
to grade it for free, including airfare

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and the special slab and like zon
case, all that stuff, right,

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But I'm curious as did PSA charge
him for the grading. I doubt it.

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But also he did submit the card, which we did find out before

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the beckett um offer was even announced
yep, So had the Beckett offer been

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on the table for him, who
knows what slab that would be in.

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You know, the only way to
know for sure would be to ask him

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answer yeah, and that's uh,
you know right. Well, there's one

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other guy we can ask um,
you know, for that, we can

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always reach out to our buddy Chris
Carlin. Um very true, who ran

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into with the National So much fun, dude, I love I love Chris.

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I don't think anyone's ever had a
bad interaction with Chris Carlin. He

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is absolutely amazing. Yeah, and
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So now we're back here, So
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with our our buddy John from Dendriver
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first time I've met him in person. Absolutely an amazing guy. Had a

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ton of fun with him, and
he gave me and you know about this

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too. He gave me an update
on his story with you know, his

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bad experience of PSA after he got
screwed with the faked slabs that he came

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up the show and talked about a
couple months ago. I'm not we're not

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gonna talk about it now, but
we are going to have John back on

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in the next couple of weeks to
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I'm teasing this now is because well, Chris Carlin plays a part in that,

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so you know, keep an eye
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in a future episode. I don't
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want John to come back on and
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it's actually a really cool story,
all right. So we'll definitely have him

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on in the very very coming weeks, as Denver Card Shows does have their

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next show at the end of this
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on to talk about that story and
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very soon exactly, all right.
So post Malone buys the car where I

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mean I actually, truthfully, if
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need, I expected Peter Jackson maybe
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you know, he's got money,
he's got you know, But no,

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it's and obviously he's got huge ties
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I went to post Malone a massive
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to me. So it's like,
okay, cool, I had no idea

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he was into that, but evidently
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he was into that. So good
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No, absolutely, absolutely, So
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the week, Yes, let's go
Bath Starter NC coverage, let's go into

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Yeah, let's go into you know, Tuesday, Wednesday, everybody rolling in

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got a chance to you know,
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really random chance encounter with Derek Jeter. Yes you did on Thursday morning.

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Um, yeah, you got to
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Uh did not expect that? Yes? I did. And here's the

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thing, so he was hanging out
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floor open and got a chance to
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I did tell him, Hey,
if you ever wanted to come on

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the show and talk about Arena Club
and he's like that that we would love

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to have him on. Wound up, you know, talking afterwards to Jesse

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from Arena Club, m oh yeah, those guys were great. They were

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set up above across from us all
week. Wonderful guys. So hopefully,

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I don't know, maybe maybe there's
a there's like a one percent chance maybe

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we get Derek jeter on I,
you know, talk about anytime. Uh

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yeah, you are welcome. Welcome
somebody for you. There's not many,

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but I'll bump someone for it.
I'll bump I Drew. I would.

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I'll bump Drew to get cheter on, you know exactly. Um, So,

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yeah, I did that. Did
happen? I have another awesome story,

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but I'm gonna save that for a
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I did bring Ethan, my son
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the show is in Chicago. I
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take one day and try not to
do anything and just bring him with and

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get a chance to walk around and
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son at the National exactly, and
something, I mean something always happens and

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it's just it just becomes weird.
This got even weirder. Uh So I'll

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talk about that in a little while. Um, but you had a chance

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to walk around. I had a
chance to walk around. I had a

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chance to buy the twenty twenty three
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Fractor came out of. And so
it was my buddy Ronnie from Elite Sports

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Cards here in Chicago. Um,
you know who was set up in the

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New area is the one who had
the box that the kid bought that ripped

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you know, that ripped it,
pulled the the Otani. I didn't do

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any jumbo, but I was there
not long before the kid was there and

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was giving serious consideration to picking up
a couple of those jumbo boxes from him.

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would have bought them all of course
about it, So I was kicking myself

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for that, but I'm happy that, you know, it was a random

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kid that wind up pulling Instaid one
of the big breakers. And you know,

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yeah, all right, So what
else did you What did you see

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that you absolutely fell in love with? Um? Well, oh, man,

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I mean a ton of stuff.
Let's one thing that was really cool

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to tell, one really cool story, and then I want to talk about

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just a lot of different things from
the National in general. Did get a

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chance to hang out with Ed Reid
for a while, which was really cool.

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Okay, Ed Reid was out at
Gibson's when we were reading at Gibson's

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and we actually ran into him.
He ended up coming over finding out that

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we were a PSA submitter. He
was sending with another grading company that I

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won't mention PAGs and he wasn't happy
with the results, so he wanted to

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come over and switch over to PSA. So he now subs with us.

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We got said Reid for a little
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to speak, and a couple other
things. And I will tell you Ed

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Reid is one of the coolest dudes
in the world. This was the most

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down to earth guy I've ever seen. Within five minutes, he acted like

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he was your best friend, like
he introduced himself, and within five minutes

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of talking to him, it's like
you're talking to someone you've known forever.

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So I've heard I've heard a lot
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years. Unbelievable, sable guy.
I can't say enough good things about Ed

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Reid. I've always been a fan, but I'm a much bigger fan now,

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just on the way he interacted with
total strangers. Now, granted he

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wanted a new business, but he
had not He did not have to go

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to the lengths he went to.
So that was a whole lot of fun.

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Um. That was probably my cool
fun celebrity interaction of the weekend if

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you will. Outside of just talking
to so many of you, the listeners

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and just people at the show,
that was, Like I said, that

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was the most humbling and most incredible
thing. Also, the main stage was

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awesome. Thank you to everyone who
came out to see hobby hotline on that.

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No, you couldn't hear a lot
of it online. That's because their

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microphones. You literally have to eat
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Um. But yeah, I had
a lot of fun. But I will

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say one thing after this, after
this National to actually two things. One,

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Chicago has to be a destination for
the National every other year, if

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not every year. It's fucking amazing. I'm sorry not going to I am

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not going to argue that point.
The National in Chicago is fucking amazing,

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from food to layout to how they
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This could have been a clusterfuck.
I mean they set the record,

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We set the record this weekend for
the most attended National ever. This could

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have been awful. And yes,
some people complained, oh it was hot.

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Try being there on Moving Day when
they opened all the doors. Wasn't

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hot during the show. I mean
it was a little warm, but it

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wasn't hot considering all the people there. The internet was good. I have

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no complaints whatso after. Ever after
this show, and if you listen to

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last year's post national show, I
had nothing but complaints. This last year

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was Yeah, last year was bad. There was a lot of stuff I

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went up. But here's the thing. So the air conditioning issue. The

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air conditioning was running. The problem
is we had so many areas that were

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close to the doors, and even
though the doors were closed, and the

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fact that it was like mid nineties
with one hundred percent humidity and felt like

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it was you know, the triple
digits. Any air conditioning is going to

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have a hard time keeping up with
that, especially und thousand people are more

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exactly normally it is not like that
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once it drop the weekend was great. It was dropped down into the eighties

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and you know, the AC was
able to keep up and there were still

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some hot spots, but a lot
of that had to do with you know,

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electricity usage and things like that.
There was going on some of these

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boots, some of the lighting that
was used that generated some extra heat,

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so that you know, that created
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a problem anywhere, but to see
the biggest yeah, well no, I

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was gonna say. The biggest takeaway
that that really I took from the National

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was just how freaking enormous it was. And I said this on Hobby Hotline

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when we were on the main stage. Okay, we all knew they were

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expanding the floor. We all knew
it was what twenty the two hundred thousand

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ors out in square feet, whatever
it was that they were adding to the

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floor. We all knew that months
going into it. Never once did I

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try to visualize what that would look
like. I took the number and said,

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Okay, yeah, it's gonna be
a little bit bigger. No no,

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no, no no. This wasn't
just a little bit bigger. This

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was absolutely enormous. I never put
I never put it in my head to

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say, Okay, what's this gonna
look like. And I looked back at

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the National last time it was in
Chicago, and then I realized they pretty

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much added the entire floor space.
They doubled the entire floor space is outside

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of the Breaker pavilion. So yeah, you're just massive. Just enormity of

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this blew my mind. And I
mean we always say you can't do the

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National in a day. Well,
if it keeps getting this big, good

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God, you can't do the National
in a weekend. I mean you're gonna

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need the entire You're gonna need the
entire five days to hit that entire floor

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now, because it is huge.
I was there all week and I did

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not get a chance to see everything
in every area and things like that.

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In fact, I didn't even discover
where they moved the pokey stand too until

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Saturday. I never found it was
in the hall well in twenty nine or

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last year twenty twenty one, it
was in the lobby and it was great.

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It was easy to find. This
year, they put a bar there

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and they tucked away the pokey stand
in an area like a corner of the

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original hall. Okay, that's why. Yeah, and then it was hard

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to find and in a cramped area
things like that, and I, um

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so I didn't find that they'll Saturday. But I think it was amazing.

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I think the displays were absolutely phenomenal. We got a chance to see some

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really cool stuff. I'm a little
disappointed at the you know, I'll talk

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about mascot for a minute, because
we had Ezra on the last show before

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the National I love their booth,
I love the demos that they were doing.

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They got a lot of positive feedback, you know, from a lot

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of people. I just didn't like
the fact that they were tucked away in

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the back row facing the back wall, right, so like you couldn't you

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couldn't find where they were. And
and look, I understand that you've got

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to be able to put people where
they can fit. Yeah, but at

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the same time, you know,
it would have been nice to see them,

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especially being in a corporate visible you
know, they could have moved things

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around a little bit. Which granted
there were two corporate areas this year,

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which but um, but no,
I agree, And and it wasn't limited

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to just Mascot or a couple other
boots like that too, but Mascot in

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particular was a little difficult to find. And yeah, if you could find

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it, like you said, phenomenal
booth layout, amazing demos, and from

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everyone I talked to and from the
people I saw, and when I got

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a chance to talk with Ezra,
looked like it was going phenomenal forms.

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So oh it was going. It
was going great for them. And I

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will say they had the most comfortable
chairs. Yeah, they had the big

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poofy poofy white chairs and they had
the best lighting. So when I needed

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to get a good looks lighting in
that room is always terrible. So when

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I needed to get a good look
at a card to determine whether or not

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I want to grade it or not, in fact I did, I did

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my ripping at their booth. You
know, they were kind enough to let

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me steal the table to you know, do some ripping back there. But

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their lighting was the best, so
I was able to get, you know,

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a good look at everything and things
like that. But yeah, I

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kind of wish that they had had
a better location. But something that was

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different this year. I don't know
if you had a chance to make it

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into the VIP Lounge. I did, but Ludex sponsored the VIP Lounge and

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they did something a little bit different. So in the past years, the

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VIP Lounge is just a room with
a bunch of tables in you know that

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if you had a VIP pass,
you can get in there and you can

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sit down and just you can exactly. Yeah. Yeah, this year though,

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not only did they bring in a
you know, a couple of food

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vendors in there, but they also
had other vendors that were set up,

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and some of them rotated and some
of them, you know, we're permanent,

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but you know, so you could
walk in, you could buy food

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and not have to worry about those
same lines and the you know you're fighting

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where they ran out of hot dogs
and pizza for a couple of days.

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Yeah, but come on, guys, this is Chicago, right, the

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two things that you should never run
out of or hot bugs. But they

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also put up a stage and they
ran a lot of great content on that

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stage. You know, people that
you know, you wouldn't have seen up

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on, you know, the main
stage, some smaller stuff. I know,

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they who did I see up there? Cashus Marsh was up there doing

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a bunch of stuff. A couple
other guys are Buddy Tim from Slab Strong

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Corey from Show Your Slabs. They
were up there doing a panel. But

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you know, it just it was
a really it was a cool room.

412
00:28:21.559 --> 00:28:25.880
They made it very interactive and one
of the really cool things that I saw.

413
00:28:25.960 --> 00:28:27.480
And this is the reason that I
came back on Sunday. I originally

414
00:28:27.559 --> 00:28:32.839
wasn't going to come Sunday, but
I got a chance Saturday night in the

415
00:28:32.960 --> 00:28:36.799
back area, you know, the
curtained off area of the VFP lounge.

416
00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:40.359
I got a chance to hang out
with Lauren Taylor. And for those of

417
00:28:40.359 --> 00:28:42.960
you who don't know who Lauren is, she is known as you know,

418
00:28:44.119 --> 00:28:49.839
the tops artist, but she you
know, creates some absolutely amazing sports related

419
00:28:51.000 --> 00:28:56.000
artwork. She did some soccer stuff
that actually got her a trip to the

420
00:28:56.039 --> 00:29:02.880
Women's Champions League final in Italy to
present this work and you know, taking

421
00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:07.200
the game and things like that.
Like she I found out that she really

422
00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:12.119
was releasing a product that is incorporating
her artwork. You know, some things

423
00:29:12.119 --> 00:29:17.759
are new, some things are things
she's previously done. And you can buy

424
00:29:17.759 --> 00:29:22.039
a pack of this. There's three
four by six prints in each pack and

425
00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:26.880
we'll share the information and some pictures
and stuff that I took on Instagram once

426
00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:30.839
we get this episode posted. Um, but it is awesome. There's certain

427
00:29:32.119 --> 00:29:34.880
you know, parallels that she's done
that are shorter print than others that are

428
00:29:36.079 --> 00:29:41.039
there. There are versions that you
know, you can get that our artists

429
00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:42.680
signed, you know, and things
like ID. But it's it's a really

430
00:29:42.720 --> 00:29:48.839
cool thing and these things would look
absolutely amazing in a graded slab. Yeah,

431
00:29:49.160 --> 00:29:52.519
once they once they get in there. I had a lot of fun

432
00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:56.240
talking with her on Saturday night,
so I had to come back Sunday morning

433
00:29:56.559 --> 00:30:00.240
when they were debuting the product,
and that was debut. It wasn't on

434
00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:03.039
the it wasn't on the show floor, it wasn't you know, it was

435
00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:07.960
in the VIP lounge. So that
was. Yeah, that was a lot

436
00:30:07.000 --> 00:30:10.799
of fun. And you know,
like I said, we'll share I'll share

437
00:30:10.799 --> 00:30:14.160
some pictures and things like that on
on Instagram of what the product looks like

438
00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:15.880
and you know, kind of what
the what the checklist is going to because

439
00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:21.480
I gonna picture for the checklist and
it's it is baseball related nice um,

440
00:30:21.720 --> 00:30:23.440
so it's going to appeal to a
lot of people, and it's you know,

441
00:30:25.559 --> 00:30:29.119
because ye Lauren does, like you
said, some absolutely incredible work.

442
00:30:29.200 --> 00:30:33.519
And that's that's a really cool little
twist. And we talked about this on

443
00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:37.240
the main stage a lot too.
The uh, the major presence of you

444
00:30:37.279 --> 00:30:40.720
know, card artist and card art
in the world, and not just I'm

445
00:30:40.720 --> 00:30:44.359
not just talking about you know,
people like card Card or card Killer,

446
00:30:44.559 --> 00:30:48.359
Tim, Tim Carroll, things like
that. I'm talking about the actual artist

447
00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:52.559
that made the cards and then responsible
for so much stuff that you guys see

448
00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:56.640
where it used to be a little
footnote on the back of the card,

449
00:30:56.680 --> 00:31:00.480
you never knew who did it.
Now those artists are getting the wreck mission

450
00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:04.079
that they properly deserve in this hobby
and that have always deserved in this hobby.

451
00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:08.400
And they they're able to do things
like Tyson Beck does you know custom

452
00:31:08.519 --> 00:31:15.359
drops with certain players. Now Lauren
Taylor being able to take her amazing portfolio

453
00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:19.960
of these just incredible designs and being
able to get them out to you with

454
00:31:21.000 --> 00:31:23.599
her name attached to it. I
think it's an awesome thing for the hobby.

455
00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:27.079
And I think it's something that I
mean, it's a really big growing

456
00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:32.119
niche market of the hobby. Yeah, no, absolutely. And then outside

457
00:31:32.119 --> 00:31:36.319
of that, you know some of
the displays, so Panini put up their

458
00:31:36.400 --> 00:31:40.640
display and you know this is an
old you know, this is a week

459
00:31:40.640 --> 00:31:47.079
old story because you know you did
the video talking about arch manning them.

460
00:31:47.359 --> 00:31:51.920
You know that announcement, uh,
you know, signing him the like And

461
00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:56.480
I must have walked past that thing
ten times where we filmed, right and

462
00:31:56.839 --> 00:32:00.480
until we walked up there to pick
the location on where we were going to

463
00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:07.359
film that, I didn't even notice
that arch Manning card was on that.

464
00:32:07.480 --> 00:32:09.559
Yeah, they had been teasing it
for days and no one saw it,

465
00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:15.279
and nobody thought nobody noticed, no, and it was right there and really

466
00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:19.960
big. Yeah, and look at
the reality is the people that would have

467
00:32:20.079 --> 00:32:23.160
before, the people that would have
seen it before the announcement were, you

468
00:32:23.160 --> 00:32:27.680
know, anybody who had early set
up for the dealers and you know and

469
00:32:27.680 --> 00:32:30.200
things like that, because they announced
it on Wednesday morning, you know,

470
00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:31.559
anybody who was able to get in
there, you know, the corporate set

471
00:32:31.640 --> 00:32:35.519
up Monday or early set up on
Tuesday for dealers and things like that.

472
00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:38.519
You know, there's where we would
have noticed it, but nobody noticed it.

473
00:32:38.599 --> 00:32:43.720
Nobody said anything about it. And
then we walk up there to film

474
00:32:43.759 --> 00:32:45.839
that piece because we knew we wanted
a Panini backdrop for it because it was

475
00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:50.200
a Panini announcement, and it's like, holy shit, there's like a Canning

476
00:32:50.200 --> 00:32:53.440
card right there. It was there. How did I not notice that the

477
00:32:53.640 --> 00:32:58.519
you know, the ten or fifteen
times that I walked right past that.

478
00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:01.559
It seems like a trade see Hackler
detail. Nowada's back with Panini. That

479
00:33:01.599 --> 00:33:07.640
seems like something tracy. That that
seems like a tracy idea to me before

480
00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:12.039
we do. It does seem like
a Tracy idea. But speaking of Tracy,

481
00:33:12.400 --> 00:33:14.880
I had and I sent you the
picture of this. I had an

482
00:33:14.920 --> 00:33:21.000
awesome opportunity to play a little game
of not where's Waldo, but where's Tracy.

483
00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:23.960
I was looking for him because I
knew he was there, so I

484
00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:27.200
asked one of the guys at Panini, like, hey, you guys seem

485
00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:30.920
Tracy and he just he just looks
towards this area and he's like, hmmm,

486
00:33:31.319 --> 00:33:36.279
where's Tracy. And I'm like looking
at it, you know, like

487
00:33:36.640 --> 00:33:39.599
he's like, he's in this area. And I look over there, I

488
00:33:39.599 --> 00:33:42.599
don't see him on the ground,
and all of a sudden, I look

489
00:33:42.720 --> 00:33:49.880
up and he literally climbed the scaffolding
of the Panini booth and was sitting on

490
00:33:50.079 --> 00:33:58.279
top with a microphone as they were
doing pack Wars. And I'm dying laughing

491
00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:01.960
because he's great, It's phenomenal.
How is he well one? How did

492
00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:07.079
they let him up there without wearing
a harness? Yeah, I guarantee you.

493
00:34:07.159 --> 00:34:10.440
I probably tried to put something no, no, no, he was

494
00:34:10.519 --> 00:34:15.519
doing it, or or he just
did it. He just didn't like,

495
00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:16.679
I'm gonna climb up there. And
do this. So he so he wound

496
00:34:16.719 --> 00:34:21.280
up up there and I'm just I'm
dying laughing, you know. I point

497
00:34:21.320 --> 00:34:23.119
up to him and he just you
know, he starts laughing and waves down.

498
00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:25.800
I mean like like all right,
that's cool. I got a chance

499
00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:29.920
to give him a little crap for
it the next day, yeah, when

500
00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:32.079
I saw him. But it's you
know, the fun things like that.

501
00:34:32.159 --> 00:34:36.159
This, these are the things you
don't see. I also got a chance

502
00:34:36.199 --> 00:34:39.920
so Nate Burns, I don't know, from a Grand Slam down in Nashville.

503
00:34:40.559 --> 00:34:45.280
He picked up as part of part
of this thing that he bought a

504
00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:49.760
you guys are familiar with the tops
of the nineteen ninety tops George HW.

505
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:52.719
Bush cards that they put out and
one hundred of them were given to you

506
00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:55.199
know, to him at the White
House. Well, he was able to

507
00:34:55.239 --> 00:35:00.440
pick one up that was signed on
the back by George Bush. I got

508
00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:06.079
a chance to see that in person, and that's it's just yeah, that

509
00:35:06.280 --> 00:35:08.280
is really cool. It's a piece
of history, the you know, the

510
00:35:08.360 --> 00:35:12.400
letter that came along with it.
Got a chance to see the SGC nine

511
00:35:12.519 --> 00:35:16.119
making fifty two tops making mantle that
Herritage Auctions has up. Unfortunately, the

512
00:35:16.119 --> 00:35:20.320
picture I took it that did not
show up in my phone for some reason,

513
00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:24.280
along with the picture that I took
with my buddy are and we're gonna

514
00:35:24.280 --> 00:35:28.000
have already coming on in the show
in a couple of weeks. Here a

515
00:35:28.159 --> 00:35:30.599
great story. You'll actually hear him
in a little while when we talked about

516
00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:32.960
the signatures of soldiers stuff. So
we have an interview with him. He

517
00:35:34.039 --> 00:35:37.639
joined me for that his first national
convention. He just got back into the

518
00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:40.280
hobby a couple of years ago,
just retired from the Navy after twenty four

519
00:35:40.360 --> 00:35:45.000
years. And he came up to
visit his parents and his sister, and

520
00:35:45.159 --> 00:35:50.159
he came with his dad, and
I actually got a chance to play tour

521
00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:53.000
guide with him for like an hour
and a half, two hours, and

522
00:35:53.199 --> 00:35:57.519
it was the most fun that I've
ever had at a National convention. So

523
00:35:58.320 --> 00:36:00.360
what okay, So what else did
you get it? It's a sea Well,

524
00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:04.440
I spent a lot of time in
the booth, so I got to

525
00:36:04.440 --> 00:36:07.239
see a lot of really cool cards. I will say that a ton of

526
00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:14.679
submissions outside of that, just I
mean everything, man, the whole thing,

527
00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:17.000
the whole vibe. That's what I
took away from it last year felt

528
00:36:17.079 --> 00:36:22.280
like, I don't know, it
just it didn't have electricity to it.

529
00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:25.000
It just felt like it was there
and people were coming in by day two

530
00:36:25.119 --> 00:36:30.079
or by day three. It didn't
seem like much excitement was there this weekend.

531
00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:36.440
The thing I took away most was
the excitement factor from literally early set

532
00:36:36.519 --> 00:36:42.400
up until people were absolutely gone on
Sunday. It just the electricity, the

533
00:36:42.519 --> 00:36:46.199
excitement, the amount of stuff that
moved, the amount of vintage that moved.

534
00:36:46.599 --> 00:36:50.679
Yeah. Yeah, the amount of
vintage we took in was the most

535
00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:52.239
we'd ever taken in, and it
was in a weekend, and in a

536
00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:58.519
week was insane that. I mean, just so much stuff. Man,

537
00:36:58.599 --> 00:37:00.559
I could go on forever. I
do an entire episode on some of the

538
00:37:00.599 --> 00:37:05.760
stuff I saw this weekend. I
thought, I thought everyone did an incredible

539
00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:09.719
job. I thought the boosts were
amazing. I think a lot of a

540
00:37:09.760 --> 00:37:15.719
lot of companies did a wonderful job
of making it a much more interactive experience

541
00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:20.400
as opposed to here's what we got
and that's it. That a lot of

542
00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:24.280
people made a really focused effort,
whether it be Upper Deck with their panel

543
00:37:24.440 --> 00:37:28.239
that they had, you know,
all weekend, they had a little stage

544
00:37:28.360 --> 00:37:31.800
with their new company they set up
with given some really cool information they had.

545
00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:37.400
You know, obviously the main stage
like always, but it didn't center

546
00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:40.599
all around Breaking like it felt like
last year with the big Whatnot strip and

547
00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:45.719
a massive Breakers pavilion. You know, it felt more of a of a

548
00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:49.280
card shitt felt more of like the
National again. It felt more like a

549
00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:52.360
card show again. And I don't
know, well, I think part of

550
00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:54.880
that, part of that, with
the not feeling like a big Breakers can

551
00:37:54.880 --> 00:37:58.039
mention. I think a lot of
that had to do with the layout of

552
00:37:58.039 --> 00:38:01.280
the room in Chicago versus the layout
out in Atlantic City, because Atlantic City

553
00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:07.760
it's just the room was just one
long strip, where Chicago it's broken up

554
00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:12.599
into you have the two large halls
and then you've got the two smaller you

555
00:38:12.639 --> 00:38:16.840
know rooms in between the halls that
you know, one of them is Breakers

556
00:38:17.239 --> 00:38:23.159
and PSA and the other one they
actually turned into more dealer tables. So

557
00:38:23.960 --> 00:38:30.320
but I actually have I have raw
numbers because so if you as you guys

558
00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:32.239
know, you know, I'm in
the merchant processing business as my day job,

559
00:38:32.280 --> 00:38:37.840
and i have a lot of clients
that are set up at the National

560
00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:40.440
that are using my service, and
I'm not going to give you exact numbers,

561
00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:45.039
because that that's private info. But
what I can tell you is that

562
00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:49.480
compared to I'm not even to compare
to Atlantic City. I want to compare

563
00:38:49.519 --> 00:38:53.840
to twenty twenty one in Chicago.
Okay, three times the volume? Wow?

564
00:38:54.199 --> 00:38:58.400
Yeah Now, and I have no
idea what was done in cash?

565
00:38:58.760 --> 00:39:02.440
Yeah yeah, that's simple processing stuff. This is simply people that made purchases

566
00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:08.320
on credit cards. Yeah, the
volume was three times greater this year than

567
00:39:08.360 --> 00:39:13.840
it was in twenty twenty one in
Chicago. And that was I mean shit,

568
00:39:13.960 --> 00:39:16.400
twenty twenty one Chicago, that was
peak. I mean that was one

569
00:39:16.400 --> 00:39:20.920
of the blow up years. Yes, that was still you know, we're

570
00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:24.920
still talking about you know, the
pandemic boom yea at that point and this

571
00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:28.679
year and a lot of the drivers, I think for a lot of my

572
00:39:28.679 --> 00:39:30.320
wax dealers that work with a lot
of the driver was tops Chrome coming out.

573
00:39:30.519 --> 00:39:36.719
That stuff was moving like crazy.
And we'll talk about that as a

574
00:39:36.840 --> 00:39:40.039
product next week. Yes, but
I've got some like I've had some I

575
00:39:40.159 --> 00:39:44.159
hit some amazing stuff. But you
know what the best thing about it was

576
00:39:44.199 --> 00:39:47.639
so ripping that stuff in the tops
Chrome, one of the products that launched

577
00:39:47.639 --> 00:39:51.239
at the National this year, and
I love I love when they do product

578
00:39:51.280 --> 00:39:55.599
launches at the National. Our buddy
Clint from Zion cases, Yeah, mag

579
00:39:55.719 --> 00:40:00.239
Pro and we look, we knew
this was coming, but I've never actually

580
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:05.840
seen one in person. Holy crap, these things are in yep, you

581
00:40:05.239 --> 00:40:09.119
did, did tell me? The
sparkly stuff from tops Chrome looks really nice.

582
00:40:09.480 --> 00:40:15.360
Oh yeah, and these things the
it is like they are crystal clear.

583
00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:20.639
Yea. It's you know, like
if you've ever seen a CSG slabs.

584
00:40:21.719 --> 00:40:25.039
Yeah, the clarity of the CSG
slabs is I think is actually the

585
00:40:25.079 --> 00:40:30.079
best out of any greater you know, any grading company that's out of st

586
00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:34.559
the clearest you know, clearest plastic
and stuff like that. It's like that.

587
00:40:35.920 --> 00:40:37.800
And look, don't get me wrong, I love Ultrapro. They're a

588
00:40:37.800 --> 00:40:42.840
great company. I love BCW,
They're a great company. But I am

589
00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:49.079
not going back to one touches from
from any of those companies. The only

590
00:40:49.159 --> 00:40:52.199
the only downside is you've got to
store them with your graded cards because they

591
00:40:52.199 --> 00:40:54.639
are a little bit taller. Yes, you know, they do have a

592
00:40:54.679 --> 00:40:58.679
little they do have a Yeah,
they've got a flip that you can put

593
00:40:58.679 --> 00:41:00.880
on it too, which is really
cool. But I am not going back

594
00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:06.840
to the standard one touches. I
am it's going to be Magpro. You

595
00:41:06.920 --> 00:41:10.800
know the Zion cases Magpro from here
on out, because they are absolutely amazing.

596
00:41:12.519 --> 00:41:15.280
No, oh, they're They're incredible. When he showed me a couple

597
00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:17.800
of months ago, and I'd keep
it quiet for a long time, so

598
00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:21.719
I was able to drop a couple
of hints. But when he showed me

599
00:41:21.760 --> 00:41:24.159
these at one of the collect cons
and what they were bringing, I was

600
00:41:24.199 --> 00:41:28.079
like, oh man, this is
gonna be huge, and I knew it.

601
00:41:28.159 --> 00:41:30.599
The National was going to be the
debut, And you guys can check

602
00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:35.840
out when I was doing a random
box rip one more and Scott came by

603
00:41:35.880 --> 00:41:39.400
and did a beautiful example with some
tops chrome of those magpros. It's on

604
00:41:39.440 --> 00:41:43.840
our Instagram to let me get that
photograph Instagram, so go check that out

605
00:41:43.880 --> 00:41:46.599
if you'd like to see what they
look like. We did about a ten

606
00:41:46.679 --> 00:41:52.360
fifteen minute video discussing those for quite
a bit, but definitely check out what

607
00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:53.440
they look like. But I'm right
there with you, man, once you

608
00:41:53.599 --> 00:41:58.599
finally got to use them, get
him in hand, actually really work with

609
00:41:58.679 --> 00:42:01.320
them some as opposed to just checking
it out. Game Changer right, just

610
00:42:01.440 --> 00:42:06.320
yeah, yeah, and that's that's
that's one of those things. It's like,

611
00:42:06.320 --> 00:42:07.679
holy crab, and you were only
you were expecting to do a quickie

612
00:42:07.880 --> 00:42:10.840
you know, prison monopoly rip in
that video. You had no idea that

613
00:42:12.199 --> 00:42:15.320
you know, we'd be doing a
we'd be doing a product review with that.

614
00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:19.920
So we's part about the National.
You start out opening a box board

615
00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:23.039
by yourself and you end up having
some fun. No exactly. Um.

616
00:42:23.079 --> 00:42:29.239
Now here's the other thing with the
National. So their official charity for the

617
00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:34.360
last couple of years has been Signatures
for Soldiers, and we've had Tim on

618
00:42:34.400 --> 00:42:37.960
the show multiple times over the years
to you know, talk about it.

619
00:42:37.159 --> 00:42:40.719
Unfortunately, because of scheduling, we
didn't get a chance to bring him on

620
00:42:40.800 --> 00:42:45.760
before the National. But something big
happened with them, and it is an

621
00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:51.280
absolutely amazing story. And I got
a chance to sit down with him and

622
00:42:51.920 --> 00:42:55.559
my buddy Ari in tow and talk
with him about exactly what happened and what's

623
00:42:55.559 --> 00:43:00.119
going on. So take a listen
to this. Hey, everybody, Scott

624
00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:05.480
here. Drew was off doing Hobby
hot Line right now, so I am

625
00:43:05.599 --> 00:43:08.960
taking over the reins briefly, and
we have our old buddy Tim Bergilio from

626
00:43:09.079 --> 00:43:13.199
Signatures of Soldiers here with us?
Tim, how you doing? I'm what

627
00:43:13.199 --> 00:43:15.039
else? Scott? How are you
man? Doing? Excellent? How has

628
00:43:15.079 --> 00:43:20.920
the National been for you so far? The National has been outstanding, The

629
00:43:20.960 --> 00:43:24.400
support that we hit year after year. Every year, I go, this

630
00:43:24.559 --> 00:43:28.679
was the greatest National ever, and
then we come to the next one and

631
00:43:28.760 --> 00:43:31.599
it tops it by day two.
So it's it's great, all right.

632
00:43:31.599 --> 00:43:36.400
Now speaking to day two, you
and I had a conversation the other day,

633
00:43:36.760 --> 00:43:40.639
and you knew coming into this National
that you were getting really really close

634
00:43:40.639 --> 00:43:45.320
to that quarter million dollar raised mark
since twenty eighteen. Not quarter million at

635
00:43:45.400 --> 00:43:50.119
just this National. Oh yeah yeah. If it were a quarter million at

636
00:43:50.119 --> 00:43:52.800
the National, I'd probably just live
here, all right. So I'm like,

637
00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:55.440
we all knew you were getting close. You knew you were getting close,

638
00:43:57.599 --> 00:44:01.800
and something magical happened. Yeah,
So it was. It was pretty

639
00:44:01.800 --> 00:44:07.599
wild. I've been talking with the
guys that own hobby Box, and um

640
00:44:07.880 --> 00:44:12.800
we had planned they had planned on
doing a live stream Tuesday night before the

641
00:44:12.880 --> 00:44:16.880
National opens to help raise money for
us, and in talking with them on

642
00:44:16.920 --> 00:44:22.280
Tuesday morning about it, I let
them know that we were a shade over

643
00:44:22.360 --> 00:44:27.840
ten thousand dollars from hitting the quarter
million mark in total money raised, and

644
00:44:27.920 --> 00:44:30.960
they made it their mission that night
to raise that money. So before the

645
00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:36.280
show even opened on Wednesday, we
were over a quarter million dollars which in

646
00:44:36.360 --> 00:44:39.760
total money raised, which just and
they stayed here until late at night,

647
00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:45.440
yeah, doing auctions. Was it
on whatnot? Or was it on whatnotnote?

648
00:44:46.079 --> 00:44:52.239
Specifically to raise money for singings to
soldiers and stayed here until they had

649
00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:55.079
enough to hit that quarter million dollar
mark. Yep. They spent three hours

650
00:44:55.119 --> 00:45:00.880
at our booth going through everything,
doing their doing their flat ah auctions,

651
00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:02.840
um, you know, just pulling
stuff and going all right, this is

652
00:45:02.880 --> 00:45:05.840
what it's for, this is what
it for, this is what for.

653
00:45:06.360 --> 00:45:12.480
And they were absolutely determined to hit
that ten thousand dollars mark. And so

654
00:45:12.559 --> 00:45:17.719
before the show even opened, ten
thousand dollars dollars dollars and a quarter million

655
00:45:17.880 --> 00:45:23.679
in total race since we started.
That is absolutely insane. Now, along

656
00:45:23.960 --> 00:45:30.920
with Tim, I have got a
National Convention rookie, but a guy that

657
00:45:31.039 --> 00:45:35.920
I have known since I was a
little kid. So my buddy Ari Shapiro,

658
00:45:36.800 --> 00:45:40.119
who was in town this week,
Um, just retired from the Navy

659
00:45:40.199 --> 00:45:45.000
a couple of months ago. After
twenty years for a right twenty four Sorry

660
00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:50.960
I forgot about that, and so
obviously I wanted to bring you in because

661
00:45:51.159 --> 00:45:58.679
you are freshly retired and you know
you heard about Sixtus Soldiers from listening to

662
00:45:58.719 --> 00:46:02.519
the podcast Absolutely, which you heard
about because you and I got reconnected,

663
00:46:02.880 --> 00:46:07.320
you know, a year or two
ago, you know, through through the

664
00:46:07.360 --> 00:46:10.519
hobby, um, after not really
seem to talking to each other for like

665
00:46:10.559 --> 00:46:14.840
twenty five years, you know,
so forth. So, UM, I

666
00:46:14.880 --> 00:46:17.480
want to get your impression because you
obviously know what Sickny System Soldiers does.

667
00:46:19.039 --> 00:46:22.760
I want to get your you know, your thoughts on like what their work

668
00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:29.559
means to the veteran community. Um, you know, maybe maybe guys that

669
00:46:29.679 --> 00:46:34.119
you they may have done some things
to help out guys that you serve with.

670
00:46:35.480 --> 00:46:37.599
So yeah, let's I want to
get your thoughts on that, um,

671
00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:40.880
and then we'll kind of roll into
internet theirs off. I just want

672
00:46:40.920 --> 00:46:44.239
to say, uh, Tim,
thank you so much for what you do.

673
00:46:44.320 --> 00:46:49.159
It's an amazing selfless act. Thanks
lot Man. I really appreciate that.

674
00:46:49.199 --> 00:46:51.679
For the bottom of my heart.
I also want to thank you Scott

675
00:46:51.760 --> 00:46:57.840
for introducing us and actually being my
personal tour guide. My father here at

676
00:46:57.840 --> 00:47:02.840
the biggest collect showing them in the
nation. So, um, you know,

677
00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:08.519
to speak about signature for soldiers.
Um, it's again it's a selfless

678
00:47:08.559 --> 00:47:14.599
ack by you know what they're doing. And uh, unfortunately we do have

679
00:47:14.880 --> 00:47:20.320
a huge problem with homeless veterans in
our country. And um, you know

680
00:47:21.679 --> 00:47:24.880
a guy that's just donating all his
money to help those people's amazing. So

681
00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:31.559
um as a veteran especially, Uh, it touches me and us, thanks

682
00:47:31.559 --> 00:47:36.159
again for doing this is great.
Yeah, and that's uh, you know

683
00:47:36.159 --> 00:47:37.639
what Tim and I were talking the
other day. I knew Ari was coming

684
00:47:37.639 --> 00:47:40.920
out with us on Saturday, and
I thought it would be cool to,

685
00:47:42.119 --> 00:47:45.400
you know, have that kind of
announcement made about you know, what went

686
00:47:45.440 --> 00:47:50.880
on and what. Um, you
know you hit that goal and you know

687
00:47:50.960 --> 00:47:52.199
kind of what you guys are doing
for community. Have you know somebody who

688
00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:58.280
is who's freshly civilian? Yeah,
um, you know who you know to

689
00:47:58.320 --> 00:48:01.840
come out you know for that.
Um. So I know you got goosebumps

690
00:48:01.840 --> 00:48:07.239
every time you tell that story about
what happened on the night. I'm sorry

691
00:48:07.239 --> 00:48:09.840
with that happens, you got goosebumps. You still get goosebumps, Uh,

692
00:48:09.920 --> 00:48:14.639
telling the story about what happened on
Tuesday night. Oh yeah, that's all.

693
00:48:14.920 --> 00:48:17.920
It's just um because you know,
as I've talked about before, when

694
00:48:17.920 --> 00:48:24.400
I started this in twenty fourteen,
the goal was five hundred dollars and and

695
00:48:24.639 --> 00:48:28.719
and now, you know, people
often ask me, well, you know,

696
00:48:28.760 --> 00:48:31.320
what's it feel like to see it
grow like it as? And I

697
00:48:31.360 --> 00:48:36.000
don't think that I have the correct
words. I'm not sure. I'm not

698
00:48:36.039 --> 00:48:42.000
sure I can even I'm not sure
that there are words really put in to

699
00:48:42.119 --> 00:48:49.039
describe the feeling. I mean,
it's it's overwhelming, it's humbling, it's

700
00:48:49.079 --> 00:48:53.639
exciting, it's fun. But you
know, I mean, I'm just the

701
00:48:53.679 --> 00:48:57.679
guy, you know. I mean, you know, nine years ago,

702
00:48:58.079 --> 00:49:01.440
you know, most of the folks
that are supporting us now would trip over

703
00:49:01.519 --> 00:49:05.800
me in the in the street and
have no idea who I was. And

704
00:49:05.880 --> 00:49:10.039
now, you know, just to
have to have the hobby community, from

705
00:49:10.079 --> 00:49:16.679
the collectors to the companies to the
athletes just supporting we believing in what the

706
00:49:16.719 --> 00:49:22.400
mission is and supporting what I'm doing. And it is truly humbling, it

707
00:49:22.719 --> 00:49:27.880
really really is. I'm I'm just
every time I talk about it, I

708
00:49:27.920 --> 00:49:31.000
become speechless. I get the goose
bumps that. You know, it's just

709
00:49:32.599 --> 00:49:37.559
again you know, I'm not even
important in my own head, you know,

710
00:49:37.960 --> 00:49:39.519
and it's just and here we are, you know, here we are.

711
00:49:40.079 --> 00:49:44.239
You know, this is the fifth
National we've been at, the third

712
00:49:44.360 --> 00:49:47.719
year in a row that we've been
the charity partner. So we're having the

713
00:49:47.800 --> 00:49:53.079
online auction group Christine going on where
one hundred percent of the bids comes back

714
00:49:53.119 --> 00:49:57.480
to us. Um. You know, we we have a boot space.

715
00:49:58.320 --> 00:50:02.519
We've grown exponentially as far as our
booth space goes um that that gets donated

716
00:50:02.559 --> 00:50:07.480
every year. So it's just amazing. And you know, year after year,

717
00:50:07.719 --> 00:50:09.480
you know, when we go to
the National, you know, for

718
00:50:09.719 --> 00:50:13.960
folks who know what we're doing,
they're like, you're the first booth I

719
00:50:14.760 --> 00:50:16.960
come to. You know, you're
the first booth I come to to see

720
00:50:16.960 --> 00:50:21.719
what you have and to score at
you and just to say hello. And

721
00:50:21.760 --> 00:50:25.679
it's it's great. So every year
we come back and we're seeing what and

722
00:50:25.840 --> 00:50:31.280
I now consider kind of my high
signatures for soldiers family, and then we're

723
00:50:31.320 --> 00:50:35.239
getting in front of more and more
people every year, Hey do you know

724
00:50:35.280 --> 00:50:37.199
who we are? What we do? You know? Here it is and

725
00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:43.000
just raising that awareness about the needs
for homeless and disabled veterans. Is it's

726
00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:45.760
a platform I never thought I would
have. Well, you've done very well

727
00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:50.199
with it, you know, you're
you know, you should be proud of

728
00:50:50.239 --> 00:50:52.320
the work that you've done. Um, proud of the money that you raise,

729
00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:54.960
proud of you know of all the
people that you you know, have

730
00:50:55.079 --> 00:51:00.320
helped. And you know, we
wish you continued to sess than you know,

731
00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:04.039
Drew and I are always there to
support you. Guys. So,

732
00:51:04.639 --> 00:51:08.159
um, I say you are the
I want to call you the official charity

733
00:51:08.199 --> 00:51:13.280
of let me get that potograph,
but we'll call you the unofficial charity of

734
00:51:13.320 --> 00:51:15.760
let me get that potograph. I
mean we can work out a deal to

735
00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:19.960
be the official. Yeah, yeah, we can talk about Yeah, we'll

736
00:51:19.960 --> 00:51:22.920
talk about another time. So but
Tim, thank you for you know,

737
00:51:22.960 --> 00:51:25.719
taking a few minutes out to you
know, talk about it with us and

738
00:51:27.159 --> 00:51:30.239
are thank you for your service.
Thank you for coming out and checking out

739
00:51:30.280 --> 00:51:36.199
your first national So hopefully you have
a a good, good experience here in

740
00:51:36.239 --> 00:51:38.760
the next couple hours. Absolutely,
thank you very much, guys, appreciate

741
00:51:38.800 --> 00:51:43.400
both of you. Thanks all right, guys, hope you enjoyed that that

742
00:51:43.519 --> 00:51:46.159
was cut in from you know,
the National Saturday morning. I got a

743
00:51:46.199 --> 00:51:50.920
chance to sit down with those guys. Amazing story, you know, hitting

744
00:51:50.960 --> 00:51:54.719
that hitting that two hundred and fifty
thousand dollars marks since the yeah, and

745
00:51:55.000 --> 00:51:59.320
the way it was done, you
know, having one of the breakers from

746
00:51:59.360 --> 00:52:02.039
the room coming look, look,
we're gonna get you over this line tonight

747
00:52:02.719 --> 00:52:07.360
and literally just being there for hours
going through the boxes of autograph stuff for

748
00:52:07.400 --> 00:52:10.440
their their people on on whatnot and
yeah, and you know, raising all

749
00:52:10.440 --> 00:52:16.119
the money. It was an absolutely
amazing story. And Mary, look,

750
00:52:16.480 --> 00:52:20.320
maybe we get him to the half
million dollar mark. Noh no, not

751
00:52:20.400 --> 00:52:22.840
amaze, We're getting him to the
half million dollar mark. And and they're

752
00:52:22.960 --> 00:52:28.760
they're gonna go well beyond that.
And Tim. Tim is a wonderful guy

753
00:52:28.800 --> 00:52:31.440
who we are going to have on
the show here coming up soon. We've

754
00:52:31.440 --> 00:52:35.400
got a lot of guests from the
national coming up in the next couple of

755
00:52:35.440 --> 00:52:39.360
weeks months. M But you know, Tim's first National was Signatures for Soldiers

756
00:52:39.480 --> 00:52:45.159
was my first national. We set
up and Stu our co host, he

757
00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:49.920
was very close with Tim. He
actually found out about Tim's stuff and helped

758
00:52:50.000 --> 00:52:54.159
him get a booth at his first
national, where they literally added an extra

759
00:52:54.239 --> 00:52:59.960
booth and tucked him in the very
corner like he was facing a wall almost

760
00:53:00.360 --> 00:53:04.960
because they had no room. But
they wanted this charity and this good cause

761
00:53:05.000 --> 00:53:07.159
to be there. They gave him
an opening. To see where he has

762
00:53:07.239 --> 00:53:15.760
come in those six nationals is just
amazing, because I mean it literally started,

763
00:53:15.800 --> 00:53:17.800
like he said, the first national
they went to, I think the

764
00:53:19.039 --> 00:53:22.760
entire weekend overall, they made a
little under five thousand dollars, and you

765
00:53:22.760 --> 00:53:27.400
look at him. Six years later, they're crossing two hundred and fifty grand

766
00:53:27.480 --> 00:53:31.400
and going so much stronger. I
mean, this is it's an amazing success

767
00:53:31.440 --> 00:53:36.280
story. And Tim and his wife, who I've gotten a chance to meet

768
00:53:36.320 --> 00:53:39.320
his wife a couple of times now
too, who is instrumental in signatures for

769
00:53:39.440 --> 00:53:45.679
soldiers. What they have been able
to do is nothing short of amazing,

770
00:53:45.800 --> 00:53:52.800
and it is there's honestly not a
nicer and better and truly genuine person to

771
00:53:52.960 --> 00:53:59.280
run this company and be a representative
for the hobby and for veterans and everybody.

772
00:53:59.400 --> 00:54:04.920
Then Tim, you couldn't pay me
enough to say a single bad thing

773
00:54:04.960 --> 00:54:08.440
about this man. A just phenomenal
top to bottom. And to see their

774
00:54:08.599 --> 00:54:15.119
rise over the past six years warms
my heart makes me happy for the hobby

775
00:54:15.159 --> 00:54:17.880
community. I love when, like
you said, the breakers that rallied around

776
00:54:17.960 --> 00:54:22.000
to help them get there, you
know, push that stuff that It's just

777
00:54:22.079 --> 00:54:27.000
beautiful, man. I just love
seeing it because all of us that kind

778
00:54:27.000 --> 00:54:30.760
of came there in Cleveland that year, six years ago or whatever, it

779
00:54:30.800 --> 00:54:35.199
was all kind of our first national
with Clint, Jared, myself, Tim,

780
00:54:35.280 --> 00:54:39.039
all of us. It's meat watching
everybody grow and seeing six years later

781
00:54:39.400 --> 00:54:44.079
where all these people are, it's
just phenomenal, you know what. It's

782
00:54:44.079 --> 00:54:47.960
funny. I was talking about that
with Clint and then his buddy Matt from

783
00:54:47.960 --> 00:54:53.599
Hobbsy Sunday morning. We're just you
know, just you know, I've been

784
00:54:53.639 --> 00:54:58.760
there since Clint started Zion Cases,
and you know I was. I was

785
00:54:58.760 --> 00:55:00.360
telling them, like, dude,
it's been so much fun of like watching

786
00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:05.760
you grow, you know, this
company, and like if you had asked

787
00:55:05.800 --> 00:55:09.159
me back then, like people people
were saying, like why would anybody want

788
00:55:09.159 --> 00:55:14.280
to carry around a case with all
your slabs and things like that? And

789
00:55:14.360 --> 00:55:17.880
now the question is why wouldn't you
want to be walking around and carrying around

790
00:55:19.320 --> 00:55:22.039
the Zion cases with your slabs and
it you know, the same thing for

791
00:55:22.199 --> 00:55:27.400
signatures for soldiers. And I will
say after that interview, Ari and his

792
00:55:27.480 --> 00:55:30.559
dad who was also there, they
wanted to grab some of the T shirts

793
00:55:31.480 --> 00:55:36.599
and they, you know, Tim
wanted to give them to them because it

794
00:55:36.719 --> 00:55:37.920
was like, you know, I
think they were giving them out to all

795
00:55:37.920 --> 00:55:43.199
the veterans and things like yeah that
pop by. They both both his dad,

796
00:55:43.239 --> 00:55:45.960
who was an Army veteran, and
Ari, he was a Navy veteran,

797
00:55:45.000 --> 00:55:49.800
they basically said no, no,
absolutely not, we're buying these.

798
00:55:50.599 --> 00:55:52.920
And I think they I think between
the two of them they grabbed like four

799
00:55:53.039 --> 00:55:55.800
or five shirts and Ari was going
to bring back a bunch, you know,

800
00:55:55.800 --> 00:56:01.199
for his buddies down in Jacksonville.
And I think there were fifteen dollars

801
00:56:01.239 --> 00:56:07.159
a piece if you wanted to buy
them. And I saw a couple of

802
00:56:07.639 --> 00:56:12.159
couple of bills with frank with Ben
Franklin on him. Yeah, you know,

803
00:56:12.400 --> 00:56:19.320
go over to Tim's wife and they
said no change ye, So you

804
00:56:19.360 --> 00:56:22.280
know, like that's the that's the
kind of support they're getting and things like

805
00:56:22.320 --> 00:56:24.519
that. And speaking of T shirts, I don't know if you saw Matt

806
00:56:24.559 --> 00:56:30.800
from Ludex walking around, he had
a co branded Ludex signatures for Soldiers T

807
00:56:30.920 --> 00:56:34.760
shirt with a huge signatures Soldier's logo
on the back. T shirt is actually

808
00:56:34.760 --> 00:56:37.760
made by grunt Style and they decided
to put it back on sale again,

809
00:56:37.119 --> 00:56:42.360
with a portion of the proceeds going
to Signatures for Soldiers. So if you

810
00:56:42.400 --> 00:56:45.320
go to if you go to grunt
style dot com and you search for ludex,

811
00:56:45.519 --> 00:56:49.920
that's gonna be theset way to find
at lud x, it's gonna pop

812
00:56:50.039 --> 00:56:53.320
up and you're gonna be able to
order the shirt through next week. I

813
00:56:53.320 --> 00:56:57.679
believe. I think it's like twenty
five bucks or something like that. I

814
00:56:57.719 --> 00:57:02.400
shared it on Instagram personal, not
the photograph one, so you know,

815
00:57:02.480 --> 00:57:06.360
go check that out, and you
know, if you need info, you

816
00:57:06.360 --> 00:57:09.119
can buy one of those shirts.
They were just absolutely really amazing looking.

817
00:57:09.400 --> 00:57:16.119
Yeah, they were so speaking of
let x, yeah this happened, well,

818
00:57:16.119 --> 00:57:20.159
this this happened. This happened in
the vip lounge and this is actually

819
00:57:20.199 --> 00:57:22.079
one of the greatest things. So
we were in the back room of the

820
00:57:22.159 --> 00:57:25.760
vip Lounge and Brian or Locker is
back there. And for those of you

821
00:57:25.800 --> 00:57:30.719
who don't know who Brian is,
well you've been hiding under a rock forever.

822
00:57:30.320 --> 00:57:35.320
But you know, uh, Chicago
Bears Hall of Fame linebacker like one

823
00:57:35.360 --> 00:57:37.440
of the best ever played the game. He did a video where he was

824
00:57:37.480 --> 00:57:44.199
opening up a pack of Prism Football
and you can see the video. I

825
00:57:44.239 --> 00:57:45.599
think let X shared in on their
website and or you know, on their

826
00:57:45.599 --> 00:57:49.280
Instagram and things like that. Well, I had Ethan, my son,

827
00:57:49.360 --> 00:57:52.159
with me, and I believe our
buddy Cutcomp had given him a pack of

828
00:57:52.280 --> 00:57:57.039
twenty twenty one score football to open. Well, he was sitting behind me

829
00:57:57.119 --> 00:58:00.159
in the chairs. I was talking
to Brian and you know in mad At

830
00:58:00.280 --> 00:58:06.000
and the other Brian from Ludex and
he opens the pack and all of a

831
00:58:06.039 --> 00:58:09.440
sudden, here, dad, Dad, look what I got. And he

832
00:58:09.480 --> 00:58:15.599
comes running over to me and I
turned to look at him and he had

833
00:58:15.639 --> 00:58:20.519
the card held like in the palm
of his hand. My arm as I

834
00:58:20.559 --> 00:58:25.280
was turning, hit his palm and
it bent the card in half. Oh

835
00:58:25.360 --> 00:58:28.480
no, all right, well no, no, here's the deal. So

836
00:58:28.599 --> 00:58:32.559
it was a Tom Brady Bass card, all right. Financially not a huge

837
00:58:32.599 --> 00:58:38.480
loss. Yeah, However, Ethan
was just absolutely devastated. I think it

838
00:58:38.519 --> 00:58:40.800
was. You know, he doesn't
rip a lot of football, but I

839
00:58:40.800 --> 00:58:44.519
know he likes Tom Brady. Was
the first time Brady card he ever builed,

840
00:58:44.719 --> 00:58:47.440
and like you could see him,
like he puts his hand, you

841
00:58:47.480 --> 00:58:51.639
know, puts his head in his
hand, like you could tell like he

842
00:58:51.679 --> 00:58:53.840
wants to start crying. Oh yeah, it's the kid holding back the emotion

843
00:58:53.880 --> 00:59:00.480
he wants to exactly. So it
turns out that Herlocker, when he was

844
00:59:00.519 --> 00:59:04.920
opening this pack, pulled a and
you could see it in the video of

845
00:59:04.960 --> 00:59:08.840
the Ludox posted he pulled a green
Hyper Tom Brady to one seventy five.

846
00:59:09.159 --> 00:59:13.840
Okay, And all of a sudden
a year ago, Hey man, I'll

847
00:59:13.840 --> 00:59:15.519
tell you what I'm gonna do.
I will trade you my Tom Brady for

848
00:59:15.599 --> 00:59:21.920
your Tom Brady. Oh that's awesome, And all of a sudden, yeah,

849
00:59:22.000 --> 00:59:25.360
so he trades Ethan the green Hyper
Tom Brady to one seventy five,

850
00:59:25.360 --> 00:59:29.639
which I mean, look, it's
a thirty five forty dollars card. Yeah,

851
00:59:30.239 --> 00:59:35.760
for the bent two thousand and one
score. That's so great Brady card.

852
00:59:36.400 --> 00:59:38.119
So yeah, so the one that
was posted VID, my son is

853
00:59:38.119 --> 00:59:43.519
now in possession of that card.
I see that right there. That makes

854
00:59:43.519 --> 00:59:46.559
the card twenty times more valuable for
a personal stance, you know what I

855
00:59:46.599 --> 00:59:51.599
mean, Like your son just made
a trade with Brian fricking Herlocker, I

856
00:59:51.639 --> 00:59:54.760
know exactly, and it was you
know, he actually wound up with the

857
00:59:54.760 --> 00:59:59.039
rest of the cards out of that
prison pack that got ripped to n But

858
01:00:00.199 --> 01:00:02.440
but that was like one of those
things like holy crap, like did that

859
01:00:02.519 --> 01:00:07.559
really just happen? Only international man, only international? Yeah, I was,

860
01:00:07.599 --> 01:00:09.679
I was a holy crap that I
actually turned and he had his card

861
01:00:09.880 --> 01:00:15.159
held in the palms bent, like, oh my god. So fortunately,

862
01:00:15.440 --> 01:00:17.199
yeah, Brian saved the day with
that trade, because the rest of the

863
01:00:17.239 --> 01:00:22.920
day would have gone really really bad
for me if that you know, if

864
01:00:22.039 --> 01:00:27.440
I know that you giving me plenty
of those from time to time, but

865
01:00:27.679 --> 01:00:30.719
Brian R. Lacker never saved a
day for no exactly. And it was

866
01:00:30.760 --> 01:00:34.559
just yeah that it was just so
much fun to you know, get a

867
01:00:34.639 --> 01:00:37.079
chance to hang out, you know, back there. Um yeah, you

868
01:00:37.119 --> 01:00:40.119
know him, Cassius marsh was back
there for a while, to get a

869
01:00:40.199 --> 01:00:42.920
chance to hanging out with him and
talk to him. I mean, it's

870
01:00:42.960 --> 01:00:46.599
like I didn't think that we'd be
in that situation on Friday. No,

871
01:00:46.800 --> 01:00:50.920
that that's pretty awesome. That's a
story I didn't know about until just now.

872
01:00:51.000 --> 01:00:53.079
That's really cool. I know,
I intentionally didn't tell you because I

873
01:00:53.119 --> 01:00:55.760
wanted to see your reaction to that. Yeah. No, that's awesome,

874
01:00:55.800 --> 01:01:00.440
man, I mean that's that's one
of those things that from someone. I

875
01:01:00.440 --> 01:01:02.320
mean, you know, do you
go so many games and stuff like that,

876
01:01:02.360 --> 01:01:07.559
all the stuff that he gets from
athletes that are just that they just

877
01:01:07.599 --> 01:01:08.719
mean that much more, you know, do a kid just like they do

878
01:01:08.840 --> 01:01:13.199
to us. I mean, like
if I had gotten a car and traded

879
01:01:13.239 --> 01:01:15.800
to me from fricking Brian or Lacker, you better believe it's going on this

880
01:01:15.960 --> 01:01:19.920
shelf right behind me and you're gonna
see it forever. Like oh and then

881
01:01:20.000 --> 01:01:22.039
yeah, that's never going to be
for sale. Um no, you know

882
01:01:22.079 --> 01:01:24.119
that. Yeah, that's not a
big deal. So that was one there

883
01:01:24.239 --> 01:01:28.199
is. Now before we go,
we got one last topic that we haven't

884
01:01:28.199 --> 01:01:31.719
covered this week that is always a
popular thing to talk about that. Um,

885
01:01:32.000 --> 01:01:37.199
you've got some inside info on and
we we have to cover it.

886
01:01:37.679 --> 01:01:44.519
Um. And that's the Panini party
on Saturday night. Yeah, so I

887
01:01:44.599 --> 01:01:47.800
was not there. You were not
there, however, Yeah, purposefully you

888
01:01:47.840 --> 01:01:52.639
could have gone. Um however,
you know, and I know a bunch

889
01:01:52.920 --> 01:01:57.920
people that were there that night.
Oh yes, So what did you hear?

890
01:01:58.440 --> 01:02:01.039
All right? Well, nine my
team went. I had a ticket,

891
01:02:01.079 --> 01:02:05.320
but I gave my ticket up to
another team member, and I will

892
01:02:05.360 --> 01:02:07.360
tell you why I gave it up. As they were making a couple of

893
01:02:07.360 --> 01:02:12.480
announcements that they did, they announced
that Diplo would be djaying there. I

894
01:02:12.480 --> 01:02:16.320
immediately knew that was not the party
for me. As a second I saw

895
01:02:16.440 --> 01:02:20.280
Diplo, I'm out, No,
I'm good. I don't need it.

896
01:02:20.360 --> 01:02:22.480
I don't need music so loud,
I can't talk. I'm fine, Just

897
01:02:22.719 --> 01:02:27.039
stay away. Now. Had Andre
three thousand been with Big Boy, I

898
01:02:27.039 --> 01:02:30.360
would have been pissed. But let's
face it wasn't really outcast that was there.

899
01:02:30.400 --> 01:02:34.519
So I don't give a fuck.
But this from everyone I talked to.

900
01:02:34.760 --> 01:02:37.599
My god was as bad. It's
gotten worse every year, and we

901
01:02:37.920 --> 01:02:43.800
talked about it on the show,
our pre NSCC show. There were not

902
01:02:43.840 --> 01:02:47.599
going to be any gold packs,
so there was literally no wax at this

903
01:02:47.679 --> 01:02:51.880
party. Broken. Now, if
you've been to any Panini party over the

904
01:02:51.960 --> 01:02:55.280
last six years, you know that
that was what ninety percent of the people

905
01:02:55.320 --> 01:03:02.079
at that party did. They opened
cards. There was zero wax on the

906
01:03:02.280 --> 01:03:07.000
entire floor. There wasn't a card
saver. There wasn't anything on the floor

907
01:03:07.239 --> 01:03:13.320
in terms of actually opening cards,
having anything to do with cards. Secondly,

908
01:03:13.360 --> 01:03:17.280
they didn't announce any of the guests
outside of two and Diplo before the

909
01:03:17.320 --> 01:03:22.800
show started, so there was no
hyper guarding that. The guests were incredibly

910
01:03:22.880 --> 01:03:30.400
underwhelming in my opinion. And then
four of the guests were underage children that

911
01:03:30.480 --> 01:03:36.079
had signed NIL deals through basketball or
some of their NIL basketball players that were

912
01:03:36.159 --> 01:03:40.039
there with their parents at a party
that was meant for drinking, and the

913
01:03:40.199 --> 01:03:45.760
parents got quite intoxicated and you could
see some of the kids they're not happy

914
01:03:45.800 --> 01:03:50.000
to be there. But in addition
to that, there was no area set

915
01:03:50.079 --> 01:03:52.960
up to actually take photos with the
celebrities like before they had, you know,

916
01:03:53.079 --> 01:03:57.960
the Panini wall behind you where you
take a photo. There was no

917
01:03:58.039 --> 01:04:00.920
photo op area. Ed Reid walked
into the party, obviously we had hung

918
01:04:00.920 --> 01:04:05.280
out with him two nights before he
saw them. He was ushered straight into

919
01:04:05.320 --> 01:04:10.119
a back room, never to be
seen again. The athletes were not on

920
01:04:10.159 --> 01:04:15.159
the floor interacting with people. It
was everything that I heard, but it

921
01:04:15.239 --> 01:04:17.719
was just a complete and total mess. It was an excuse for people to

922
01:04:17.760 --> 01:04:23.360
get hammered, which a lot of
people did the bathrooms had lots of residue

923
01:04:23.440 --> 01:04:28.880
encounters from what I was told,
lots of people sniffling. It was a

924
01:04:28.960 --> 01:04:32.079
interesting party, so to speak.
But everybody that I talked to, outside

925
01:04:32.079 --> 01:04:35.880
of a few people that might still
like to go to clubs, that this

926
01:04:35.960 --> 01:04:40.000
was basically just a night out at
the club. It was. It was

927
01:04:40.039 --> 01:04:44.360
not a Panini party. And we
you know, we mentioned it last week.

928
01:04:44.480 --> 01:04:47.159
This is the time when you want
the attention on you. Yet you

929
01:04:47.199 --> 01:04:50.960
had the arch Manning reveal. Yet
I got some attention on you. But

930
01:04:51.320 --> 01:04:57.800
that Panini Party is your chance to
really shine. And I'll tell you,

931
01:04:57.880 --> 01:05:00.599
man, just from talking to everyone
that went to it, my entire team,

932
01:05:01.039 --> 01:05:04.800
other people that went from all age
groups, from people that were in

933
01:05:04.840 --> 01:05:09.519
their twenties and their sixties, that
all went to it. Oh, I

934
01:05:09.599 --> 01:05:13.480
didn't hear anyone say that this was
the type of party that they wanted.

935
01:05:13.480 --> 01:05:16.679
And it's kind of disappointing. And
I hope that not how the Panini Party

936
01:05:16.719 --> 01:05:21.280
goes in the future. But a
really really rough event this year from what

937
01:05:21.639 --> 01:05:25.400
and I will say, we talked
about the gold Packs and them not being

938
01:05:25.440 --> 01:05:30.039
there in the pre national show and
they are being mailed out this week to

939
01:05:30.159 --> 01:05:32.000
people by the way, well,
right, but what you know, but

940
01:05:32.119 --> 01:05:35.599
what he initially said was that you
know, they were worried about theft.

941
01:05:36.360 --> 01:05:41.639
Yeah, and okay, great.
But now what I'm thinking was that was

942
01:05:41.679 --> 01:05:45.960
an excuse. And I'm thinking they
delayed them because they knew that the arch

943
01:05:45.000 --> 01:05:49.159
Manning signing yeah was coming. And
I would not be surprised if they just

944
01:05:49.159 --> 01:05:55.400
couldn't get them produced in time to
hand out there. And I mean,

945
01:05:55.400 --> 01:05:59.239
we'll find out once people receive them
and they start ripping them, because if

946
01:05:59.280 --> 01:06:02.639
we see arch Manning cards in there, yeah, then you know we are

947
01:06:02.760 --> 01:06:06.360
then we're going to know that I
was right. Well, I'm wondering if

948
01:06:06.360 --> 01:06:11.079
we don't see that color blast that
was posted on the wall, I wonder

949
01:06:11.119 --> 01:06:14.280
if that's not something included. I
mean, gold packs have all types of

950
01:06:14.320 --> 01:06:18.519
different stuff in them. You know, there's no there's no rules or so

951
01:06:18.599 --> 01:06:23.039
to speak, you know, pre
wreck that they need to follow for these.

952
01:06:23.079 --> 01:06:26.719
They can put anything they want in
them. Yes, over packs this

953
01:06:26.800 --> 01:06:30.000
year had the Wemby you know,
that was a surprise that's going for like

954
01:06:30.239 --> 01:06:35.239
fifteen hundred two grand or something like
that. Now, So and that one's

955
01:06:35.239 --> 01:06:40.400
why. That explains why the silver
pack cost on the secondary market is so

956
01:06:40.519 --> 01:06:44.199
high. Oh yes, is because
of that Wemby. But there was another

957
01:06:44.280 --> 01:06:49.320
party on Saturday nights at the same
time as the Panini party that blowout decided

958
01:06:49.360 --> 01:06:54.119
to throw. Yeah, and this
one, this one, you kind of

959
01:06:54.199 --> 01:06:57.159
knew what you were getting into at
this point because what they did was they

960
01:06:57.159 --> 01:07:01.480
rented out this massive bus and they
parked it about two miles from the convention

961
01:07:01.519 --> 01:07:05.519
center, and it had a whole
bunch of people loaded onto this bus.

962
01:07:06.000 --> 01:07:12.039
And they had one celebrity and it
was it was Ricky Williams. Hell yeah.

963
01:07:12.079 --> 01:07:15.719
And the appeal to this party was
that you got to smoke pot with

964
01:07:15.840 --> 01:07:19.159
Ricky Williams. Damn straight. Now, here's the thing. You didn't hear

965
01:07:19.199 --> 01:07:23.880
a lot about this. You didn't
see a lot of promotion on social media,

966
01:07:24.079 --> 01:07:26.920
which is smart because if that's the
case, a lot of people were

967
01:07:26.920 --> 01:07:30.920
getting randomly drug tested on Monday when
they got back to work. Yeah.

968
01:07:30.880 --> 01:07:33.800
Um, but a friend of ours
who I will not name, was there.

969
01:07:34.480 --> 01:07:39.320
Ricky Williams walked right over to where
they were sitting on the bus and

970
01:07:39.639 --> 01:07:45.039
plopped down next to them and literally
spent the entire night hanging out with them.

971
01:07:45.480 --> 01:07:49.760
And you know, smoking weed and
you know, Madden was a lot

972
01:07:49.800 --> 01:07:54.639
of us. He played Madden with
a couple buddies of mine. Yeah yeah,

973
01:07:54.679 --> 01:07:57.239
and um, I mean, look, it's exactly what you'd expect from

974
01:07:57.280 --> 01:08:00.880
Ricky Williams. Yes, So this
this was not a disappoint ointment. Uh

975
01:08:00.199 --> 01:08:04.000
No. Everyone I talked to that
went to that said it was a blast,

976
01:08:04.480 --> 01:08:09.719
um and breaky actually because they were. It's probably because they were baked

977
01:08:09.760 --> 01:08:13.199
out of their mind and realized that
it, you know, might not have

978
01:08:13.239 --> 01:08:17.920
been a blast, you know,
when you're reading that much too. Um.

979
01:08:17.960 --> 01:08:21.720
He was over at the Sick Cards
booth with dirkey Ye for a while.

980
01:08:21.800 --> 01:08:26.159
I mean he actually a lot of
people actually hit the floor for a

981
01:08:26.159 --> 01:08:29.840
while. Um, it was cool. Yeah, I mean Barry Sanders was

982
01:08:29.880 --> 01:08:32.359
out there doing a kid's break at
the Panini booth. I actually I walked

983
01:08:32.399 --> 01:08:34.840
past him as he was on his
way over to the booth to do that.

984
01:08:35.520 --> 01:08:39.600
Um, I got you know,
I got stiff armed by one of

985
01:08:39.600 --> 01:08:42.560
his guys walking around and just getting
out of the way. So it's like,

986
01:08:42.600 --> 01:08:45.119
all right, cool, I got
stiff armed by one of Barry Sanders's

987
01:08:45.159 --> 01:08:48.239
guys. Would have been cooler to
get stiff armed by Barry Sanders himself,

988
01:08:48.520 --> 01:08:51.880
right, But you know I'll take
it. Yeah, I'm not going to

989
01:08:51.960 --> 01:08:56.840
complain. But we got Cleveland coming
up next year. I'm looking forward to

990
01:08:56.880 --> 01:09:00.520
Cleveland. I'm not looking forward to
the new layout of the show floor.

991
01:09:00.159 --> 01:09:04.359
But what I will say is this
is the first time back in Cleveland since

992
01:09:04.399 --> 01:09:12.359
twenty eighteen, due to the cancelation
last year of Cleveland because the Convention Center

993
01:09:12.439 --> 01:09:15.840
was no longer available. But Cleveland, the National Cleveland is always a good

994
01:09:15.840 --> 01:09:24.560
time. And we have twelve months
now to try to figure out what the

995
01:09:24.560 --> 01:09:28.840
big announcements are going to be.
Yeah, you know, who's going to

996
01:09:28.880 --> 01:09:31.039
show up, what the show is
going to look like, well, especially

997
01:09:31.119 --> 01:09:34.199
what the show is gonna look like
because it's under new management now. I

998
01:09:34.239 --> 01:09:38.439
mean, this was the swan song
for the old management, the people who

999
01:09:38.479 --> 01:09:42.399
have run the National forever. I
mean this was their swan seventeen years,

1000
01:09:42.479 --> 01:09:46.319
seventeen years. Yeah, So this
is new. This is a new board

1001
01:09:46.319 --> 01:09:49.680
of directors, this is a new
everything. Well, no board of directors.

1002
01:09:49.680 --> 01:09:55.000
The board of directors is the same, it's the yeah, yeah,

1003
01:09:55.079 --> 01:09:59.279
just the management. And I had
a chance to talk with a couple of

1004
01:09:59.319 --> 01:10:04.800
the is that are part of the
new management team, and I am really

1005
01:10:04.840 --> 01:10:09.039
looking forward to what they're going to
wind up doing with this. There is

1006
01:10:09.399 --> 01:10:15.840
some I you know, there's some
very positive things and positive vibes. The

1007
01:10:15.600 --> 01:10:18.560
new management team is made up of
guys, one who have a lot of

1008
01:10:18.600 --> 01:10:25.520
experience running shows, yes, but
two are collectors themselves. Oh yeah,

1009
01:10:25.560 --> 01:10:29.680
and that's the most important part.
Yeah, So I agree, I agree,

1010
01:10:29.800 --> 01:10:31.640
it's going to be interesting to see
what happens. But I will say,

1011
01:10:31.920 --> 01:10:35.920
you know, for a group that
was a quote unquote their swan song

1012
01:10:36.079 --> 01:10:40.239
leaving, they could have they could
have phoned it in they yeah, they

1013
01:10:40.239 --> 01:10:42.920
could have said whatever, we had
a good run, all right, we're

1014
01:10:42.960 --> 01:10:45.119
done, etc. Instead, in
my opinion, they made this one of

1015
01:10:45.119 --> 01:10:48.079
the best nationals yet. I mean, my first is always going to be

1016
01:10:48.079 --> 01:10:53.560
one of my favorites. Yeah,
when it comes down to really breaking down

1017
01:10:53.760 --> 01:10:59.840
everything from you know, the event
inside to how the food everything out,

1018
01:11:00.239 --> 01:11:04.840
I mean that it was phenomenal,
just an absolutely incredible national And I don't

1019
01:11:04.880 --> 01:11:10.840
think you're gonna find many people that
would disagree. I would not disagree.

1020
01:11:11.279 --> 01:11:13.920
Yeah, well, there you go, not in the least bit. There

1021
01:11:13.960 --> 01:11:16.439
you go. So and on that
note, that is going to wrap up

1022
01:11:16.479 --> 01:11:21.680
our review show of for the twenty
twenty three National in Chicago. Yes,

1023
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absolutely, guys. We will have, like Scott said, a lot of

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01:11:26.439 --> 01:11:30.359
upcoming guests and things from the National. Once again, want to thank Tim

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from Signatures for Soldiers for taking time
to do that interview that we had for

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you guys today. It was Scott
and Ari on the floor. But we've

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got a lot of amazing stuff coming
up, and like Scott kind of tease

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a little bit earlier, next week, we will start having every episode of

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01:11:46.560 --> 01:11:50.880
the show not only on audio like
you're listening to right now, but it

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will be up on our YouTube page
as well, the videos of every single

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show. But they're gonna be a
little bit different then the episodes that you

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hear on the podcast, as we're
not cutting a single thing, so any

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01:12:05.159 --> 01:12:10.640
outtakes anything like that, you guys
get to see him. Whether that's good

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01:12:10.720 --> 01:12:13.960
or bad, we'll find out sooner
or later, you guys. Yeah,

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01:12:14.000 --> 01:12:15.720
you guys will get to see how
the sausage is made. Um, you'll

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01:12:15.720 --> 01:12:19.760
get to see the pre edited stuff
kind of as we go. You'll get

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01:12:19.760 --> 01:12:24.239
to see some some outtakes and you
know, things that are not going to

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01:12:24.319 --> 01:12:28.399
appear in the audio segment here,
you'll be able to see on the video

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side of things. You know,
it's kind of gonna be a not only

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01:12:31.279 --> 01:12:34.079
the you know, the weekly show
itself, but it's also going to be

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01:12:34.199 --> 01:12:39.520
a behind the scenes, yes,
you know kind of kind of thing.

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01:12:39.680 --> 01:12:43.279
So you know, you'll get to
see, you know, we may talk

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01:12:43.319 --> 01:12:46.800
about some things in between segments.
We may you know, we may say

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01:12:47.079 --> 01:12:49.399
add and like the way that sounded, let's go do that again, and

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01:12:50.119 --> 01:12:55.039
um, it's gonna be something completely
different than you know what you see.

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01:12:55.079 --> 01:12:57.800
It's gonna be. I don't want
to say it's gonna be unrefined, because

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it's it's still very refined, yes, but it's it's gonna be it's raw,

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it's gonna be you know, things
as we do it. And I

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think it's gonna be a lot of
fun. Oh me too, doing it

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01:13:10.800 --> 01:13:14.239
that way. And I think I
think some of those outtakes that you know,

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we may have some people that wind
up taking those clips and you know,

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01:13:17.439 --> 01:13:19.960
kind of running with us somewhere else, like can you believe what these

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01:13:20.000 --> 01:13:23.680
guys say, you know dad,
or say you know, um, but

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01:13:23.800 --> 01:13:27.960
look it's look, it's what it
is. M comes with the territory.

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01:13:28.039 --> 01:13:30.279
Yeah, it comes with the territory. So we'll um, we'll be starting

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the next week when I'm back at
home, yep, and we'll see what

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01:13:35.600 --> 01:13:39.479
happens with it. Yeah, looking
forward to that, guys. And we've

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01:13:39.520 --> 01:13:43.279
got a lot of other really cool
stuff, some stuff that we hammered down

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01:13:43.319 --> 01:13:46.560
at the National and some stuff that
we're finalizing now that hopefully we can bring

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01:13:46.640 --> 01:13:50.720
you guys really really soon. But
as Scott said, that is gonna wrap

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up episode one ninety three of Let
Me Give That Potograph our post National episode

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01:14:15.600 --> 01:14:17.880
I said, tons of amazing guests
coming up in the next few weeks.

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01:14:18.199 --> 01:14:21.119
Stuff will be on YouTube next week. We'll have a lot of stuff up

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01:14:21.199 --> 01:14:25.800
on Socials this week from the National
and more a lot of stuff you guys

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01:14:25.880 --> 01:14:30.279
have not heard yet will be coming
your way, including a rather large National

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01:14:30.319 --> 01:14:34.920
recap video that I'm in the process
of editing as we speak. But until

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01:14:35.039 --> 01:14:39.560
next week. Guys, you know
the deal. Keep it from those packs.

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