WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:04.519 Hello, and welcome to my podcast. This is an audio version of my 2 00:00:04.639 --> 00:00:09.160 videos available to make listening to my stuff in the background easier than YouTube makes 3 00:00:09.160 --> 00:00:13.679 it. But since my videos are primarily made for YouTube, there may be 4 00:00:13.759 --> 00:00:18.160 occasional references to visual materials. If you'd like this podcast add free, you 5 00:00:18.199 --> 00:00:22.760 can join us on Patreon at patreon dot com slash Vice Rhino. Please enjoy. 6 00:00:24.000 --> 00:00:29.239 Hello and welcome to my channel Vice Rhino. Here today I decided to 7 00:00:29.280 --> 00:00:33.359 head back to my roots and cover some classic answers in genesis creationism content. 8 00:00:33.799 --> 00:00:37.280 They've gotten a lot more clickbaity in recent months, and it seems to be 9 00:00:37.320 --> 00:00:41.600 working for them. Instead of having a bunch of videos with about five hundred 10 00:00:41.679 --> 00:00:46.079 views each, they're now getting tens of thousands of views, apparently by using 11 00:00:46.079 --> 00:00:50.320 the aero pointing to a random part of the thumbnail and sensationalized titles that are 12 00:00:50.359 --> 00:00:54.240 only slightly related to the video content at best. Case in point, the 13 00:00:54.320 --> 00:00:58.640 video I'm responding to today is called this One Thing will make You Believe in 14 00:00:58.759 --> 00:01:03.200 Noah's Flawed, and the thumbnail has an arrow pointing to an upright fossil tree 15 00:01:03.280 --> 00:01:07.359 and the word undeniable. But in the video itself, he talks about more 16 00:01:07.439 --> 00:01:11.920 than just one thing, and the upright fossil tree is only very briefly mentioned. 17 00:01:11.239 --> 00:01:15.840 So I guess being dishonest about what your video is okay as long as 18 00:01:15.879 --> 00:01:21.480 it gets more views. How morally relativistic of the organization that literally has an 19 00:01:21.519 --> 00:01:25.480 article on their web page about how lying is always wrong, even if it's 20 00:01:25.480 --> 00:01:29.079 the classic example of lying to a Nazi to save a Jew. From the 21 00:01:29.159 --> 00:01:32.359 article, if we love God, we should obey him. To love God 22 00:01:32.400 --> 00:01:36.239 first means to obey him first before looking at our neighbor. So is the 23 00:01:36.280 --> 00:01:38.840 greater good, trusting God when he says not to lie, or trusting in 24 00:01:38.879 --> 00:01:44.400 our fallible, sinful minds about the uncertain future. Consider this carefully. In 25 00:01:44.439 --> 00:01:47.799 the situation of a Nazi beating on the door, we have assumed a lie 26 00:01:47.879 --> 00:01:51.599 would save a life, but really we don't know, So one would be 27 00:01:51.640 --> 00:01:56.439 opting to lie and disobey God without the certainty of saving a life. Keeping 28 00:01:56.439 --> 00:02:00.000 in mind that all are ultimately condemned to die physically, sides whether one lied 29 00:02:00.120 --> 00:02:04.239 or not may not have stopped the Nazi soldier from searching the house anyway. 30 00:02:04.519 --> 00:02:07.719 But given that Bodie also explains in that article that even lying for Jesus is 31 00:02:07.759 --> 00:02:13.080 sinful. I'm left wondering why aig feels free to play Lucy goosey with the 32 00:02:13.080 --> 00:02:23.560 truth here anyway, onto the video. There's no physical evidence for a worldwide 33 00:02:23.599 --> 00:02:28.439 flood. This is a commonly heard objection to belief in the account of the 34 00:02:28.479 --> 00:02:31.319 great deluge described in Genesis six to nine. Yeah, but it's more than 35 00:02:31.400 --> 00:02:37.120 that. It's not just that there's no evidence for a worldwide flood as described 36 00:02:37.120 --> 00:02:40.439 in Genesis. It's that there's a plethora of evidence against such a flood, 37 00:02:40.680 --> 00:02:46.599 and this evidence comes from multiple independent scientific fields like geology, paleontology, anthropology, 38 00:02:46.680 --> 00:02:51.759 and more. The fact that we have historical records of cultures living through 39 00:02:51.759 --> 00:02:54.240 the time period that the flood is supposed to have happened in all without seeming 40 00:02:54.240 --> 00:02:58.479 to have noticed it is enough on its own to put the flood myth to 41 00:02:58.520 --> 00:03:00.759 rest. In fact, the evidence from any one of these fields is enough 42 00:03:00.759 --> 00:03:05.319 to put the flood myth to rest. But the combination of all this evidence 43 00:03:05.560 --> 00:03:10.719 completely eviscerates any chance the story has of being literally true, and many skeptics 44 00:03:10.800 --> 00:03:16.319 believe this claim invalidates the Bible and Christianity. Well, it certainly does invalidate 45 00:03:16.319 --> 00:03:21.479 the particular version of Christianity that you advocate for, but plenty of people have 46 00:03:21.599 --> 00:03:24.639 made it work for them without insisting on taking the story literally. In fact, 47 00:03:24.680 --> 00:03:30.919 as has been pointed out by behavioral psychologist Joel Firch's or Firks, I'm 48 00:03:30.960 --> 00:03:35.960 not sure I'm sorry from mispronouncing that insisting on a literal interpretation of these Bible 49 00:03:36.000 --> 00:03:39.240 stories is one of the primary factors in what he calls the setting conditions for 50 00:03:39.319 --> 00:03:44.639 deconversion, the conditions in the church that prime people to lose their faith. 51 00:03:45.039 --> 00:03:49.280 Other setting conditions are also found within AIG. Performance control, which is the 52 00:03:49.319 --> 00:03:53.280 expectation that members of your religious community will act a certain way, with any 53 00:03:53.319 --> 00:03:58.439 deviation being frowned upon, so, for instance, don't be LGBTQ. Isolationism, 54 00:03:58.439 --> 00:04:01.280 which is when the community discourages members from associating without groups, like when 55 00:04:01.319 --> 00:04:05.599 AIG talks about how it's Christianity versus the world, even going so far as 56 00:04:05.639 --> 00:04:10.719 to encourage homeschooling with their materials so that kids don't ever get exposed to any 57 00:04:10.759 --> 00:04:15.960 ideas that they disapprove of. Another is compulsive certainty, where doubts are frowned 58 00:04:15.000 --> 00:04:18.120 upon. The Bible is true, end of story. Don't question that. 59 00:04:18.319 --> 00:04:23.360 Begin with that as your presupposition. These setting conditions that can all be found 60 00:04:23.360 --> 00:04:28.160 within answers in Genesis hit four out of five of the setting conditions for deconversion. 61 00:04:28.600 --> 00:04:31.720 In other words, AIG's desperate attempt to control the narrative and keep believers 62 00:04:31.759 --> 00:04:36.439 believing is actually accomplishing the exact opposite of their goal. And they have a 63 00:04:36.480 --> 00:04:41.480 point. After all, if someone can't trust the beginning of the Bible, 64 00:04:41.639 --> 00:04:44.240 why should they believe the rest of it? Yeah, that's the next step 65 00:04:44.240 --> 00:04:46.800 in deconversion, the stressor. If your faith hangs on the idea that the 66 00:04:46.839 --> 00:04:51.120 Bible is completely inerrant and perfect in every way, then when you notice an 67 00:04:51.120 --> 00:04:55.560 imperfection in it, it causes you to question your faith. But if you 68 00:04:55.639 --> 00:04:58.319 just come to grips with the fact that the Bible is a collection of documents 69 00:04:58.319 --> 00:05:02.560 written by people who sometimes made stakes, exaggerated or even outright lied, well, 70 00:05:03.319 --> 00:05:06.439 I actually side with AIG on this one. Why trust the Bible when 71 00:05:06.480 --> 00:05:10.959 it says God exists if it is known to have such issues. But if 72 00:05:10.959 --> 00:05:14.600 you are raised without the inerrancy of scripture being a necessary part of your faith. 73 00:05:14.839 --> 00:05:16.480 It'll be easier to hold onto your belief when you start to notice that 74 00:05:16.519 --> 00:05:20.360 scripture is not in fact inerrant. That's the stressor that comes with textualism, 75 00:05:20.360 --> 00:05:24.160 and that's the main one that did it in for me. For isolationism and 76 00:05:24.279 --> 00:05:27.399 encounter with new people and new ideas can be the stressor. That's where the 77 00:05:27.399 --> 00:05:30.639 trope of the good Christian kid going off to college and ending up deconverting, 78 00:05:30.680 --> 00:05:33.839 well there comes from. Performance control is kind of its own stressor. The 79 00:05:33.920 --> 00:05:39.040 constant stress of behaving in the expected manner rather than being true to yourself puts 80 00:05:39.040 --> 00:05:42.360 a strain on your relationship with that community, especially if it turns out that 81 00:05:42.399 --> 00:05:46.040 your LGBTQ in an anti LGBTQ group. Compulsive certainty works together with the other 82 00:05:46.040 --> 00:05:49.879 stressors to become a sort of stressor of voltron. The Bible is completely true 83 00:05:49.879 --> 00:05:54.319 and inerrant. Well, I found an error here, and that causes me 84 00:05:54.360 --> 00:05:58.079 to doubt the inerrancy of scripture, which I'm supposed to be certain about, 85 00:05:58.120 --> 00:06:01.560 so I'm not allowed to doubt it. However, the scooters themselves not only 86 00:06:01.639 --> 00:06:08.560 predict this denial happening, but also contend with this declaration, stating, for 87 00:06:08.720 --> 00:06:12.519 this willingly forget that, by the word of God, the heavens were of 88 00:06:12.600 --> 00:06:16.160 old and the earth standing out of water and in the water, by which 89 00:06:16.160 --> 00:06:20.839 the world that then existed perished being flooded with water. A couple things here. 90 00:06:21.199 --> 00:06:25.800 First, it's not really that amazing that a book written hundreds of years 91 00:06:25.839 --> 00:06:29.639 after the initial flood account was able to predict that some people would doubt the 92 00:06:29.639 --> 00:06:32.279 flood account. People have been doubting it that whole time, and we're still 93 00:06:32.279 --> 00:06:35.480 doubting it in the time that second Peter was written to predict that this trend 94 00:06:35.519 --> 00:06:40.120 would continue amounts to nothing. If I say in the future that there will 95 00:06:40.120 --> 00:06:44.240 be people who doubt that ancient Jaradites built wooden submarines to get from Israel to 96 00:06:44.279 --> 00:06:47.959 North America, that's not an impressive prophecy. That's just the default expectation. 97 00:06:48.199 --> 00:06:51.199 Second, this first seems to be describing a flat earth scenario, with the 98 00:06:51.240 --> 00:06:55.800 Earth standing out of the waters of the deep on its foundational pillars that are 99 00:06:55.800 --> 00:06:59.560 described elsewhere in the Bible. Third, it's interesting to me that they use 100 00:06:59.639 --> 00:07:02.680 the New King James translation for this verse. Usually AIG favors the ESV. 101 00:07:02.879 --> 00:07:06.480 The ESV translation for this verse says that the Earth was formed out of water 102 00:07:06.560 --> 00:07:10.879 and through water by the word of God, and that by means of these 103 00:07:10.920 --> 00:07:15.439 the world that then existed was deluged with water and perished. I feel like 104 00:07:15.480 --> 00:07:17.800 they used the new King James to avoid the implication that God didn't create the 105 00:07:17.839 --> 00:07:21.360 world from nothing, as apologists like to claim. As we saw last week, 106 00:07:21.399 --> 00:07:25.800 the whole God created the universe from nothing is an essential part of the 107 00:07:25.800 --> 00:07:30.360 apologetic urge to show that the Bible got something scientific right. So if it 108 00:07:30.399 --> 00:07:33.319 turns out that the creation story in Genesis doesn't actually say that the universe had 109 00:07:33.319 --> 00:07:38.519 a beginning and that God used pre existing material to create it, then that 110 00:07:38.600 --> 00:07:43.240 takes away that one instance of scientific accuracy that seems impressive as long as you 111 00:07:43.240 --> 00:07:46.000 don't think about it too hard and come to realize that any creation narrative has 112 00:07:46.040 --> 00:07:49.480 a coins flip chance of getting it right. This verse supports the idea that 113 00:07:49.519 --> 00:07:54.079 the Bible's coin flip actually got it wrong. And just to recap that bit 114 00:07:54.120 --> 00:07:58.040 from last week, the opening line of Genesis has some ambiguity in the original 115 00:07:58.040 --> 00:08:01.319 Hebrew that could be interpreted as they're God creating the world out of nothing or 116 00:08:01.360 --> 00:08:05.079 God imposing order on the formless waste that the world was at the time, 117 00:08:05.360 --> 00:08:09.639 with the formless waste being primarily a cosmic ocean with a great turbulent wind sweeping 118 00:08:09.639 --> 00:08:15.800 over it. Everyone accepts that fossil laid rock labors cover the continents, and 119 00:08:15.959 --> 00:08:18.680 most of these were laid down by water. The word most in that sentence 120 00:08:18.879 --> 00:08:24.319 is doing a lot of heavy lifting. Even if I grant the ridiculous premise 121 00:08:24.360 --> 00:08:26.480 that there is no difference between the layers laid down by different types of water 122 00:08:26.639 --> 00:08:31.600 environments, everything from deep marine to lake to to river delta to alluvial fan 123 00:08:31.799 --> 00:08:37.480 and more. But ignore those differences and just assume that water means the same 124 00:08:37.519 --> 00:08:41.720 thing for all of them. The word most indicates that Calvin is aware that 125 00:08:41.759 --> 00:08:45.240 there are fossil bearing layers that exist that were not laid down by water, 126 00:08:45.399 --> 00:08:48.600 And the problem for Calvin here is that these dry layers are often sandwiched in 127 00:08:48.639 --> 00:08:52.000 between wet layers that he claims are the result of the flood. Now, 128 00:08:52.279 --> 00:08:56.279 how would Noah's flood accomplish putting a layer of dry, wind blown desert between 129 00:08:56.360 --> 00:09:01.000 two flood layers. Calvin doesn't answer that question, at least not in this 130 00:09:01.080 --> 00:09:05.679 video. Could that be evidence for a global flood. No, it couldn't 131 00:09:05.919 --> 00:09:09.080 because even ignoring the dry layers that are found sandwich between wet layers, there 132 00:09:09.120 --> 00:09:13.960 are different kinds of wet layers. If all the wet layers were laid down 133 00:09:13.000 --> 00:09:16.440 by a worldwide flood, then we would expect them all to be deep water 134 00:09:16.559 --> 00:09:22.440 marine environments. But laid down by water includes things like lagoons, lakes, 135 00:09:22.559 --> 00:09:26.799 beaches, shallow marine fluvial which is rivers, deltaic river deltas where a river 136 00:09:26.840 --> 00:09:30.360 meets a large body of water, alluvial fans, which are like river deltas 137 00:09:30.360 --> 00:09:33.399 that run into a dry basin instead of another body of water, and hell, 138 00:09:33.480 --> 00:09:37.440 even evaporate and glacier deposits could be considered to have been laid down by 139 00:09:37.559 --> 00:09:41.559 water. The majority of these environments would not exist in a global flood scenario 140 00:09:41.679 --> 00:09:46.080 despite being laid down by water, and yet we find them scattered all throughout 141 00:09:46.080 --> 00:09:50.879 the geologic strata, not just on either side of a bunch of deep marine 142 00:09:50.960 --> 00:09:56.200 environments. Perhaps the problem is not lack of evidence. The evidence is right 143 00:09:56.240 --> 00:10:00.879 there in front of us. The problem is that many scientists see it because 144 00:10:00.879 --> 00:10:05.080 they've accepted different history of the Earth Now in this case, it's that the 145 00:10:05.159 --> 00:10:09.440 evidence quite definitively renders a literal interpretation of Noah's Flood impossible. I mean, 146 00:10:09.519 --> 00:10:13.320 God is supposed to be omnipotent, so I suppose you could say that he 147 00:10:13.360 --> 00:10:16.679 planted the evidence against Noah's Flood as a test of our faith or something. 148 00:10:16.000 --> 00:10:20.360 But as far as I can tell, that has never been AIG's position, 149 00:10:20.679 --> 00:10:24.480 and if it were, this discussion would be completely irrelevant. They say, 150 00:10:24.519 --> 00:10:30.240 the fossils are the record of death over hundreds of millions of years, record 151 00:10:30.279 --> 00:10:33.600 of life, not record of death. I mean, yeah, everything that 152 00:10:33.720 --> 00:10:37.200 was fossilized did die, obviously, but for the most part, it's not 153 00:10:37.240 --> 00:10:39.159 their deaths that we're looking at, it's their life. Yes, we can 154 00:10:39.320 --> 00:10:43.600 learn about the ecology of the time that they lived in by examining their death, 155 00:10:43.679 --> 00:10:46.960 Like, was this fossil killed by a predator? Did scavenger's pick at 156 00:10:46.960 --> 00:10:48.960 its carcass before it was buried? What kind of event did it die in? 157 00:10:50.440 --> 00:10:54.360 Was there a volcanic eruption? Mudslide? Hell The Tannis fossil site that 158 00:10:54.440 --> 00:10:58.039 is part of the Hell Creek formation has a bunch of fossils that died as 159 00:10:58.039 --> 00:11:01.519 a direct result of the asteroid impact that killed the non avian dinosaurs. The 160 00:11:01.559 --> 00:11:05.080 site was discovered in two thousand and eight, and since science moves slowly as 161 00:11:05.120 --> 00:11:07.879 they want to collect as much data as possible to make sure they are accurate 162 00:11:07.919 --> 00:11:11.200 before drawing any conclusions, their findings weren't presented until about twenty seventeen, with 163 00:11:11.279 --> 00:11:15.440 the media taking another couple of years to latch onto the story in twenty nineteen. 164 00:11:15.519 --> 00:11:18.679 The Tennis event deposit, the actual deposition that resulted from the asteroid impact, 165 00:11:20.039 --> 00:11:24.679 is in between Cretaceous and Paleogene strata, and it's very clearly not laid 166 00:11:24.759 --> 00:11:28.000 down by water. In fact, one of the key features is that most 167 00:11:28.000 --> 00:11:31.679 of the fish fossils from the event deposit have a body posture that is consistent 168 00:11:31.679 --> 00:11:35.000 with suffocation. So if Noah's flood actually happened, and the fossils are the 169 00:11:35.039 --> 00:11:39.919 record of these things being laid down by water, then you have to somehow 170 00:11:39.919 --> 00:11:43.240 explain how a bunch of fish in the middle of a worldwide flood that covered 171 00:11:43.279 --> 00:11:48.639 all of the land somehow suffocated on dry land. There are more layers above 172 00:11:48.639 --> 00:11:50.559 this one that you would attribute to the flood, so it can't be fish 173 00:11:50.639 --> 00:11:54.279 dying in the post flood recession of water. So how did that happen? 174 00:11:54.440 --> 00:12:00.200 Answer? Noah's flood didn't happen. They died when the asteroid hit the Earth, 175 00:12:00.000 --> 00:12:03.519 Earth, creating massive earthquakes that caused hundred meter tall waves to form in 176 00:12:03.559 --> 00:12:07.320 the Western Interior Seaway, which flung a bunch of plants, animals, and 177 00:12:07.440 --> 00:12:11.440 debris far inland, where they were buried pretty quickly by sediment, both from 178 00:12:11.480 --> 00:12:15.840 the waves themselves and from debris thrown into the atmosphere by the asteroid impact. 179 00:12:16.320 --> 00:12:18.120 Side note. When I was trying to find a graphic that shows where the 180 00:12:18.159 --> 00:12:22.159 event deposit was in the larger stratigraphy of the Hell Creek Formation, I came 181 00:12:22.159 --> 00:12:26.600 across this image, which was part of a peer review paper in the area. 182 00:12:26.639 --> 00:12:30.279 I was tempted to use it despite not having the event deposit clearly labeled, 183 00:12:30.320 --> 00:12:31.360 so I could just make a joke about them going out of their way 184 00:12:31.399 --> 00:12:35.639 to label pretty butte. And since I decided not to use it for that 185 00:12:35.720 --> 00:12:37.799 purpose, I don't really have a reason to show it to you now other 186 00:12:37.840 --> 00:12:43.639 than just to say heat pretty. Even though that popular view is rife with 187 00:12:43.799 --> 00:12:48.639 problems. The problems that creationists point out are literally nothing, especially when you 188 00:12:48.720 --> 00:12:52.159 compare them to the problems that the creation is view has. Perhaps it's simply 189 00:12:52.200 --> 00:12:56.679 a matter of swapping world juice, like taking off a pair of glasses and 190 00:12:56.799 --> 00:13:01.039 putting on a different pair that lets you see through a different lance. No, 191 00:13:01.559 --> 00:13:05.480 it definitely isn't, and creationist geologist John Baumgartner agrees. As he pointed 192 00:13:05.480 --> 00:13:09.879 out in his paper from nineteen ninety, the only way for Noah's flood to 193 00:13:09.879 --> 00:13:13.440 work as an historic event is for God to have changed the laws of physics 194 00:13:13.519 --> 00:13:16.559 to make it work, saying it is the author's suspicion that God modified some 195 00:13:16.679 --> 00:13:22.399 single fundamental aspect of the natural order, which in turn affected all the fundamental 196 00:13:22.440 --> 00:13:26.799 forces, including the gravitational force, the electrostatic force, and the nuclear forces, 197 00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:30.480 in a manner that did not fatally disrupt the delicate balances that exist in 198 00:13:30.519 --> 00:13:33.799 living systems and whose signature in the astronomical data may be subtle. The author 199 00:13:33.840 --> 00:13:37.159 believes that the sooner the community of scientists who are aware of the integrity of 200 00:13:37.159 --> 00:13:41.279 the Bible is convinced the system of natural law that normally describes the orderly behavior 201 00:13:41.279 --> 00:13:46.919 of the cosmos cannot have been time invariant, the sooner genuine progress will be 202 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:50.879 made and establishing the framework that accounts for Noah's flood and the geological history of 203 00:13:50.879 --> 00:13:56.519 our planet in a robust and satisfying way, to paraphrase, God with physics 204 00:13:56.559 --> 00:13:58.240 to make it work. And the sooner y'all stop trying to make the flood 205 00:13:58.279 --> 00:14:01.000 story fit with how laws of physics work. The sooner we can work out 206 00:14:01.000 --> 00:14:05.759 how God with them. That's not a look at the evidence from a different 207 00:14:05.799 --> 00:14:09.080 worldview sort of thing. That is very much the evidence doesn't work for my 208 00:14:09.120 --> 00:14:13.960 position unless we alter the fundamentals of how the universe operates sort of thing. 209 00:14:13.240 --> 00:14:18.080 And once you do, evidence of Noah's flood can be seen all over the 210 00:14:18.679 --> 00:14:22.600 from seabeds to mounttops. Interesting that the evidence for the flood only shows up 211 00:14:22.600 --> 00:14:26.440 if you start with the assumption that there was a flood, because here's the 212 00:14:26.519 --> 00:14:31.000 thing. Despite the creation as protestations to the contrary. The evidence against No's 213 00:14:31.000 --> 00:14:37.039 flood was discovered and interpreted largely by Bible believing Christians who saw science as the 214 00:14:37.039 --> 00:14:41.840 pursuit of understanding more about God's creation. Charles Lyle, who basically formulated the 215 00:14:41.840 --> 00:14:46.720 idea of uniformitarianism that gave us long geologic ages published several editions of his book 216 00:14:46.759 --> 00:14:50.399 Principles in Geology, which spoke out against the idea of evolution as presented before 217 00:14:50.480 --> 00:14:54.960 Darwin's theory, namely Lamarckian evolution. He came to accept Darwin's theory when presented 218 00:14:54.960 --> 00:14:58.200 with the evidence, and removed the anti evolution portion of his book from later 219 00:14:58.360 --> 00:15:03.320 editions when he died. His obituary in The New York Times noted, but 220 00:15:03.639 --> 00:15:07.200 though an evolutionist, Lyle was not a skeptic. He lived and died a 221 00:15:07.279 --> 00:15:11.080 Christian believer. In fact, Lyle even used the fact that in the story 222 00:15:11.120 --> 00:15:15.600 an olive tree survive Noah's flood as evidence to argue for the historicity of Noah's 223 00:15:15.639 --> 00:15:18.440 flood, not as a local flood still worldwide, but as a so called 224 00:15:18.600 --> 00:15:22.240 tranquil flood which was so gentle that it left little to no impact in the 225 00:15:22.279 --> 00:15:28.000 geologic record. The man demonized by Young Earth creationists as seeking to create more 226 00:15:28.159 --> 00:15:31.720 time where there was none in order to discredit the creation and flood stories of 227 00:15:31.720 --> 00:15:35.679 Genesis, was in fact a believer in a literal worldwide flood, and he 228 00:15:35.720 --> 00:15:39.720 had to contend with the fact that his work showed no evidence of such a 229 00:15:39.759 --> 00:15:43.279 flood ever occurring from Volume four of Principles of Geology. For my own part, 230 00:15:43.320 --> 00:15:46.440 I have always considered the flood when it's universality in the strictest sense of 231 00:15:46.480 --> 00:15:50.879 the term, is insisted upon, as a preternatural event, far beyond the 232 00:15:50.879 --> 00:15:54.840 reach of philosophical inquiry, whether as to the causes employed to produce it or 233 00:15:54.840 --> 00:15:56.840 the effects most likely to result from it. At the same time, it 234 00:15:56.960 --> 00:16:00.879 is clear that they who are desirous of pointing out the coincidence of geological phenomena 235 00:16:00.919 --> 00:16:06.480 with the occurrence of such a general catastrophe must neglect no one of the circumstances 236 00:16:06.559 --> 00:16:10.559 enumerated in the Mosaic History, least of all so remarkable effect as that the 237 00:16:10.600 --> 00:16:14.600 olive remains standing while the waters were abating. So, the father of our 238 00:16:14.639 --> 00:16:18.360 modern understanding of geology, who is happy to believe in a literal worldwide flood, 239 00:16:18.679 --> 00:16:22.120 pointed out that there is no evidence for the flood in the geologic record. 240 00:16:22.279 --> 00:16:25.960 This makes it seem like it's a bit more than just a worldview issue. 241 00:16:26.399 --> 00:16:29.600 Think about it. Whether you travel by car, train, or playing, 242 00:16:29.840 --> 00:16:34.240 the fiscal features of the Earth's terrain clearly indicate a catastrophic past, from 243 00:16:34.320 --> 00:16:38.879 canyons at craters to coal beds and caverns. Aside from craters, none of 244 00:16:38.879 --> 00:16:42.960 those inherently indicates a catastrophic past, and you don't like the evidence that comes 245 00:16:42.960 --> 00:16:48.960 from craters. Some places of strata extend across continents, revealing the effects of 246 00:16:49.000 --> 00:16:53.360 a huge catastrophe, or hear me out on this one. They stretch across 247 00:16:53.399 --> 00:16:59.080 continents revealing huge environments that existed in the past. I've talked about this before, 248 00:16:59.240 --> 00:17:03.680 and god damn it, what the fucking shit. Okay, I am 249 00:17:03.759 --> 00:17:08.160 back, I'm calm. I've got my stress relief puppy here to keep me 250 00:17:08.200 --> 00:17:15.079 company. So answers in Genesis has successfully fooled me. I went back into 251 00:17:15.079 --> 00:17:18.119 my catalog to find the video where I've talked about that before, what I 252 00:17:18.160 --> 00:17:21.960 was about to reference, and damned if this isn't the exact video. I 253 00:17:22.000 --> 00:17:25.319 didn't check to see if I had already covered it because it was just uploaded 254 00:17:25.319 --> 00:17:27.680 a month ago, and I haven't covered anything from AIG Canada in that time. 255 00:17:29.079 --> 00:17:32.480 But I guess they're recycling their material because this is a video that I 256 00:17:32.559 --> 00:17:34.920 covered way back in twenty twenty one. But it's got a new title now 257 00:17:34.960 --> 00:17:40.240 and the original is also unlisted at this time, and I lied. The 258 00:17:40.319 --> 00:17:42.839 videos aren't exactly the same. They seem to have darkened the new one for 259 00:17:42.880 --> 00:17:48.119 some reason. Maybe Calvin's wardrobe was too bright for them. This does confirm 260 00:17:48.119 --> 00:17:49.960 what I was saying earlier though, about them going for a clickbait rather than 261 00:17:51.039 --> 00:17:53.559 substance. This one used to be called where is the physical evidence for Noah's 262 00:17:53.559 --> 00:17:59.039 Flood? Not this one thing will make you believe in Noah's Flood. At 263 00:17:59.039 --> 00:18:02.359 this point, I'm deep enough in that it would be a massive setback for 264 00:18:02.400 --> 00:18:04.279 me to pick a different video. And I have covered some stuff that I 265 00:18:04.319 --> 00:18:07.319 know I haven't brought up in previous videos, at least not in this much, 266 00:18:07.359 --> 00:18:11.720 details such as Lyle's Christianity and the tennis event deposit. So I'm going 267 00:18:11.759 --> 00:18:15.599 to keep powering through. But if you've been feeling a sense of deja vous, 268 00:18:15.880 --> 00:18:18.839 that's why. Anyway. What I was getting at here is that one 269 00:18:18.839 --> 00:18:22.640 of the main examples of multicontinent deposition are the chalk beds that can be found 270 00:18:22.640 --> 00:18:26.200 throughout parts of Europe. Notably, in order to form there need to have 271 00:18:26.279 --> 00:18:32.240 been large, calm, fairly shallow seas where plankton, mostly coccolithophores, could 272 00:18:32.279 --> 00:18:34.519 thrive. As they live and die, they shed their skeletal caucospheres, which 273 00:18:34.519 --> 00:18:38.279 float down to the ocean floor to accumulate in a muddy mixture known as calcerous 274 00:18:38.319 --> 00:18:42.000 ooze, which lithified under pressure that was building up on top of it as 275 00:18:42.119 --> 00:18:47.839 more ooze formed. This is an incredibly slow process that took around thirty five 276 00:18:47.920 --> 00:18:52.119 million years, and if the amount of plankton required to form these chalk beds 277 00:18:52.119 --> 00:18:55.759 were live at one time and so could all die in the flood, there 278 00:18:55.759 --> 00:18:59.200 wouldn't have been room for anything else in the ocean. They would have formed 279 00:18:59.200 --> 00:19:02.240 a suffocating lay at the top, soaking up all of the sunlight needed for 280 00:19:02.279 --> 00:19:07.039 other life to exist, choking out even themselves. The Earth's crust has massive 281 00:19:07.039 --> 00:19:12.200 amounts of layered sedimentary rock, sometimes miles deep. Indeed it does, and 282 00:19:12.359 --> 00:19:15.880 given how the layers formed, it is impossible for them to all have been 283 00:19:15.920 --> 00:19:19.279 the result of one worldwide flood. There wasn't time during the flood for the 284 00:19:19.319 --> 00:19:22.440 different layers to lithify, a process that can be quick for certain types of 285 00:19:22.519 --> 00:19:26.279 layers, but for others, like the aforementioned chalk is a process that takes 286 00:19:26.319 --> 00:19:30.319 millions of years. Also, when I say quick here, the quickest layers 287 00:19:30.359 --> 00:19:34.480 are igneous ones, volcano erupts, lava cools boom new layer. Aside from 288 00:19:34.559 --> 00:19:38.319 that quick is still on the order of decades to centuries, far longer than 289 00:19:38.359 --> 00:19:42.039 the flood is supposed to have lasted. These layers of sand, soil, 290 00:19:42.039 --> 00:19:47.680 and material mostly laid down by water were once soft like mud. That depends 291 00:19:47.680 --> 00:19:49.680 on the type of layer. And once again I'd like to bring attention to 292 00:19:49.720 --> 00:19:55.039 just how much heavy lifting the mostly is doing in the statement mostly laid down 293 00:19:55.039 --> 00:19:59.640 by water, because it's rather difficult to explain from a global flood perspective how 294 00:19:59.640 --> 00:20:03.079 the logic record can show environmental transitions that go from marine to beach to desert 295 00:20:03.160 --> 00:20:07.720 back to marine all in one location. Never mind the fact that we can 296 00:20:07.720 --> 00:20:11.960 also follow the geologic strata laterally and see the environment's change going from deep marine 297 00:20:11.000 --> 00:20:15.359 to shallow marine to deltaic to fluvial all in the same layer. That is 298 00:20:15.519 --> 00:20:19.119 quite a trick if the entire layer was laid down by one single flood event. 299 00:20:19.720 --> 00:20:22.799 You know, this is where the creation's double speak kind of works against 300 00:20:22.799 --> 00:20:27.400 itself. They will often complain that the geologic column doesn't actually exist anywhere except 301 00:20:27.440 --> 00:20:32.839 for in the textbooks, using the fact that different environments existed in different locations 302 00:20:32.880 --> 00:20:36.839 to say that the layers aren't perfectly represented worldwide. But the thing is, 303 00:20:37.160 --> 00:20:40.960 we'd only expect that to be true if the layers were actually laid down by 304 00:20:41.039 --> 00:20:47.000 some worldwide event like a flood. There should be one big global stratigraphic layer, 305 00:20:47.000 --> 00:20:49.559 which would be a conglomeration of sediment generally sorted, with the larger grain 306 00:20:49.640 --> 00:20:52.759 heavier sediment found lower down in the layer, and the smaller grain layer sediment 307 00:20:52.839 --> 00:20:56.759 towards the top, not a bunch of different layers with all sorts of different 308 00:20:56.759 --> 00:21:00.880 properties, not even slightly organized by grain size, showing a multitude of different 309 00:21:00.920 --> 00:21:04.440 environments, both as you look through time in one location and as you look 310 00:21:04.440 --> 00:21:08.880 at different locations in the same time. But they're now hard, solid stone, 311 00:21:08.960 --> 00:21:12.640 that's what she said. And in case, in these sedimentary layers are 312 00:21:12.839 --> 00:21:18.720 billions of dead things. Fossils of plants and animals breed very quickly. The 313 00:21:18.880 --> 00:21:22.359 evidence all over the earth is staring everyone in the face very quickly, in 314 00:21:22.359 --> 00:21:26.160 this case meaning buried in the event that killed them in some cases, and 315 00:21:26.240 --> 00:21:30.799 buried after the carcass had been exposed and picked over by scavengers for at least 316 00:21:30.799 --> 00:21:34.279 a few days. In other cases, the burial doesn't need to be instantaneous. 317 00:21:34.480 --> 00:21:38.440 It just needs to happen before the remains completely decomposed. And I wonder 318 00:21:38.440 --> 00:21:41.799 how scavengers were able to gnawn the bones of animals who died in the flood, 319 00:21:41.920 --> 00:21:45.440 given that they were also supposed to have died in the flood. It's 320 00:21:45.480 --> 00:21:51.559 no wonder The Bible contains such warnings against disbelieving the account of Noah's flood as 321 00:21:51.599 --> 00:21:56.880 rejecting it has important theological implications. Yeah, the book that is motivated to 322 00:21:56.960 --> 00:22:02.200 make you believe it warns against not believing it. Amazing. In Matthew twenty 323 00:22:02.200 --> 00:22:04.759 four, thirty six, and thirty nine, Jesus used the flood as a 324 00:22:04.799 --> 00:22:08.599 picture of the coming judgment. Yeah, he did, And amusingly, in 325 00:22:08.599 --> 00:22:11.839 the part of that passage that you replaced with an ellipse, he describes what 326 00:22:11.880 --> 00:22:15.519 he means by that. For as in those days before the flood, they 327 00:22:15.519 --> 00:22:19.039 were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage until the day when Noah 328 00:22:19.200 --> 00:22:22.240 entered the Ark, and they were unaware until the flood came and swept them 329 00:22:22.279 --> 00:22:26.319 all away, So we'll be the coming of the Son of Man. What 330 00:22:26.480 --> 00:22:30.079 a prediction people would be, eating, drinking, and getting married. Shockingly 331 00:22:30.119 --> 00:22:34.759 specific that could only possibly be referring to the way people behave today. Also, 332 00:22:34.960 --> 00:22:38.400 two verses before this one is where we get Jesus saying that the generation 333 00:22:38.440 --> 00:22:42.200 that he is speaking to will not pass away until all these things take place. 334 00:22:42.759 --> 00:22:47.319 The author of Matthew was convinced that he was living in the end times, 335 00:22:47.400 --> 00:22:51.119 and every generation of Christians since then has likewise believed that they were in 336 00:22:51.119 --> 00:22:55.160 the end times, and all of them have been wrong. So why should 337 00:22:55.200 --> 00:22:56.960 I believe the ones who are saying, oh, this time will be right? 338 00:22:57.960 --> 00:23:03.799 Likewise? Second Peter three also associates the flood with the coming judgment by 339 00:23:03.880 --> 00:23:07.799 fire, and once again, if you read that whole chapter from Second Peter, 340 00:23:07.079 --> 00:23:11.640 the author clearly believes that the day of judgment is imminent and that they 341 00:23:11.640 --> 00:23:14.599 are the ones who will see it. Also, this is the chapter that 342 00:23:14.640 --> 00:23:17.160 tells us that to God, one day is as a thousand years, and 343 00:23:17.240 --> 00:23:19.880 a thousand years are as one day, a metaphorical way of saying that time 344 00:23:19.960 --> 00:23:23.680 doesn't matter to God. That's the verse that Christians who accept evolution in old 345 00:23:23.720 --> 00:23:27.480 ages will use to say that the Genesis creation account is not literal. Yeah, 346 00:23:27.480 --> 00:23:30.319 it says six days, but that could mean any amount of time to 347 00:23:30.400 --> 00:23:33.920 God, He's not tied to literal days. There's still the issue with the 348 00:23:34.039 --> 00:23:37.960 order of creation and whatnot. But if you don't start with the assumption that 349 00:23:37.039 --> 00:23:41.000 has to be literally true, then that's not really that big of a deal. 350 00:23:41.519 --> 00:23:45.039 If the Genesis flood were merely a myth, then we could assume and 351 00:23:45.079 --> 00:23:52.119 dismiss the coming judgment as mythological as well. Yes, no, that's all 352 00:23:52.119 --> 00:23:55.359 I have there, But many people, of course want what they feel is 353 00:23:55.599 --> 00:23:59.160 rock solid evidence for their beliefs. I mean, really, given who God 354 00:23:59.240 --> 00:24:03.720 is supposed to be, that should be the minimum expectation here. So let's 355 00:24:03.720 --> 00:24:07.119 look at some fossils. For example. Consider the fact that it takes special 356 00:24:07.160 --> 00:24:11.440 conditions to make a fossil, and the world is covered with billions of them 357 00:24:11.519 --> 00:24:18.359 in mass graves. In contrast to the slow standard evolutionary story of deposition of 358 00:24:18.440 --> 00:24:22.799 sediments making fossils slowly over hundreds of years, In reality, creatures must be 359 00:24:22.880 --> 00:24:27.559 buried rapidly before they brought or get eaten by scavengers. You say that as 360 00:24:27.559 --> 00:24:33.720 though rapid burial isn't the first thing you'll learn about the fossilization process. Nobody 361 00:24:33.799 --> 00:24:37.279 is out there saying that it takes millions of years to bury a dead animal. 362 00:24:37.559 --> 00:24:41.319 We all know that burial has to happen rapidly, but the actual permimeralization 363 00:24:41.440 --> 00:24:45.519 process, the process by which organic material is replaced with minerals, can take 364 00:24:45.599 --> 00:24:49.519 millions of years, sometimes tens of millions of years. Though on the flip 365 00:24:49.519 --> 00:24:53.759 side, if the conditions are right, some animals can become nearly completely permimeralized 366 00:24:53.839 --> 00:24:59.079 within hours to days of their death, and in fact, vast numbers animals 367 00:24:59.079 --> 00:25:03.160 were buried and lie so quickly that some couldn't even finish swallowing their meal or 368 00:25:03.200 --> 00:25:07.680 giving birth. No, that's buried and died so quickly that they couldn't finish 369 00:25:07.680 --> 00:25:11.880 their meal or finish giving birth, not buried and fossilized. So here's the 370 00:25:11.880 --> 00:25:17.599 thing about fossils. Our categorization of something as a fossil is somewhat arbitrary. 371 00:25:17.960 --> 00:25:21.559 The preserved remains of an organism are considered a fossil if it died more than 372 00:25:21.599 --> 00:25:26.000 ten thousand years ago, regardless of the state of permineralization, but most people 373 00:25:26.000 --> 00:25:30.000 when they hear fossilized are actually thinking of permineralization. For the most part, 374 00:25:30.039 --> 00:25:33.359 this is a distinction that won't matter to your average everyday viewer, but when 375 00:25:33.400 --> 00:25:37.400 dealing with creationists, it does become relevant because permineralization is a process whose speed 376 00:25:37.519 --> 00:25:41.519 is determined entirely by the conditions in which it is occurring. If the groundwater 377 00:25:41.519 --> 00:25:48.240 in an area is extraordinarily hard that has a very high concentration of dissolved minerals, 378 00:25:48.480 --> 00:25:52.799 then permineralization will happen faster to an organism buried in that area than to 379 00:25:52.839 --> 00:25:56.079 one buried where the water is relatively soft. Remains in a dry environment will 380 00:25:56.119 --> 00:26:00.759 take longer than those in a wet one to permineralize. If they're bacteria present 381 00:26:00.799 --> 00:26:03.440 that speed up the process, the process will be sped up. It varies 382 00:26:03.519 --> 00:26:07.119 wildly from case to case. But creationists don't like to talk about that. 383 00:26:07.319 --> 00:26:11.039 They just want you to remember back to your high school days when you probably 384 00:26:11.079 --> 00:26:14.400 learn that it takes millions of years to form a fossil and realize that that 385 00:26:14.480 --> 00:26:17.519 was not an accurate statement, and so question the rest of what you learn 386 00:26:17.559 --> 00:26:21.759 in high school science class. But if you actually learn about what researchers who 387 00:26:21.759 --> 00:26:26.240 work with fossils regularly are saying, you'll soon come to realize that creationists are 388 00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:30.359 painting a very limited picture of fossilization that lacks nuance that is crucial for having 389 00:26:30.359 --> 00:26:36.000 a complete understanding of the process. And we also have multiple examples of soft 390 00:26:36.039 --> 00:26:40.920 bodied creatures like squid, octopus, and even jellyfish which turn to goo in 391 00:26:40.960 --> 00:26:45.359 a matter of days once they die being perfectly preserved. Yeah, it's pretty 392 00:26:45.400 --> 00:26:49.000 much universally accepted that that's why such fossils are comparatively rare. But again, 393 00:26:49.279 --> 00:26:55.000 you're not saying anything that is actually a problem for actual paleontology. The American 394 00:26:55.039 --> 00:26:59.160 Geosciences Institute has a page on fossilization and says right out in the open, 395 00:26:59.200 --> 00:27:02.519 as if they aren't even trying to hide anything, that for a soft bodied 396 00:27:02.519 --> 00:27:06.680 animal to be fossilized, its body must be protected from decomposition. The body 397 00:27:06.759 --> 00:27:08.440 is usually exposed to air and water with a lot of oxygen, so it 398 00:27:08.480 --> 00:27:12.519 decomposes rapidly. The animal is likely to be fossilized only if it is buried 399 00:27:12.559 --> 00:27:17.640 soon after it dies, or when it is buried alive. Certainly not the 400 00:27:17.680 --> 00:27:22.799 result of some slow geological process but rather evidence of rapid breal and fossilization. 401 00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:27.319 Indeed, why would it not be the result of slow geologic processes. You 402 00:27:27.359 --> 00:27:32.799 haven't said anything that contradicts the fact that slow geologic processes are responsible for the 403 00:27:32.799 --> 00:27:37.799 stratigraphic layers and they're corresponding fossils. You've just stated a couple basic facts about 404 00:27:37.839 --> 00:27:41.359 how quickly something has to be buried, acted as though that meant buried and 405 00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:45.039 permimeralized, and now you are apparently saying, aha, that means it can't 406 00:27:45.039 --> 00:27:49.400 have happened slowly, all while ignoring the fact that we know that permineralization can 407 00:27:49.519 --> 00:27:53.599 happen extremely rapidly in some conditions, which is something that I know Answers in 408 00:27:53.680 --> 00:27:56.880 Genesis is aware of, as they have articles that try to claim that such 409 00:27:56.880 --> 00:28:02.359 processes are evidence for a young Earth. Another obvious evidence that makes sense in 410 00:28:02.440 --> 00:28:07.119 a global flood is fossils of tree trunks, some of them thirty feet tall, 411 00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:11.960 standing upright or upside down through one or more layers. Again, this 412 00:28:11.039 --> 00:28:15.480 is actually excellent evidence against a young Earth. You see, if younger creation 413 00:28:15.599 --> 00:28:18.400 is more correct, in the vast majority of geologic features of the Earth, 414 00:28:18.519 --> 00:28:22.160 including the fossils where the result of the flood, then we would expect fossils 415 00:28:22.160 --> 00:28:26.599 that span multiple strata to be the norm rather than the exception, And yet 416 00:28:26.920 --> 00:28:33.519 there are none, none except for trees. Well, strictly speaking, tree 417 00:28:33.599 --> 00:28:37.960 like lycopods, but that's splitting hairs. My point is the only fossils that 418 00:28:37.039 --> 00:28:41.920 exist which span multiple strata are plants that are capable of remaining upright for sometimes 419 00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:47.519 hundreds of years after they die. Tellingly, these trees always show up in 420 00:28:47.599 --> 00:28:52.160 environments where rapid deposition is possible. Most are found in river floodplains, meaning 421 00:28:52.160 --> 00:28:56.839 that the sedimentary layers could build up quite rapidly Geologically speaking, around the tree. 422 00:28:56.880 --> 00:29:00.680 There are also several examples of the layers surrounding the tree, each showing 423 00:29:00.680 --> 00:29:03.880 its own signs of life, going on business as usual without seeming to notice 424 00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:08.039 any worldwide flood. There are paleo soils with root formations indicating that there were 425 00:29:08.079 --> 00:29:12.200 plants growing in the sediment that was surrounding the older buried trees. For that 426 00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:15.799 to happen in Noah's flood, the tree would have to have been partially buried 427 00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:19.359 and then had an entire ecosystem of plants grow in the sediment that it got 428 00:29:19.359 --> 00:29:25.359 buried in before the new ecosystem also got buried all well underwater, but still 429 00:29:25.359 --> 00:29:29.400 showing signs of terrestrial animals, including dinosaurs in some cases, going about their 430 00:29:29.400 --> 00:29:33.440 normal lives. This doesn't make sense with the slow accumulation of layers over millions 431 00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:37.559 of years, no, but it does make sense in light of the different 432 00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:41.559 types of environments having different rates of deposition, and with these trees always occurring 433 00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:45.200 in areas that have environments suited to rapid deposition, but instead it's a sign 434 00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:51.200 that these poly straight fossils were breed rapidly, geologically rapidly. Yes, but 435 00:29:51.279 --> 00:29:53.640 we're still talking in terms of hundreds of years here, far too long for 436 00:29:53.720 --> 00:29:59.559 your one year long flood. Another example which tourists can visit around the world 437 00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:03.279 rock layers that were deposited around the globe at the same time. Again, 438 00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:07.359 you've got this one backward. This is evidence for plate tectonics, not a 439 00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:11.000 young Earth. These layers were not spread out when they were deposited. They 440 00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:17.160 moved as the tectonic plates moved. I thought even creationists recognize that plate tectonics 441 00:30:17.160 --> 00:30:19.079 are a thing. They just assume that they move faster than is physically possible 442 00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:25.279 during the flood. This is consistent with the Genesis account of a worldwide versus 443 00:30:25.319 --> 00:30:29.319 a regional catastrophe. No, like I said, if the Genesis flood were 444 00:30:29.359 --> 00:30:33.279 actually the reason for the majority of the rock layers, it wouldn't be rock 445 00:30:33.359 --> 00:30:37.079 layers. It would be one big rock layer with the coarse heavy sediment being 446 00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:41.119 mostly on the bottom and find green light sediment on the top. Since that's 447 00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:44.559 not what we see even a little bit, we can rule out a global 448 00:30:44.559 --> 00:30:48.359 flood as the reason for the rock layers. For example, the beat sandstone, 449 00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:53.119 which sits on the basement rocks of Grand Canyon in Arizona, also appears 450 00:30:53.119 --> 00:30:59.559 far away in Wisconsin and across the ocean in Israel and Libya under different names. 451 00:30:59.680 --> 00:31:03.319 Well, I can't find much information on the T. Pete sandstone extending 452 00:31:03.359 --> 00:31:06.480 all the way to Israel. The only thing I did find was a paper 453 00:31:06.519 --> 00:31:11.079 published by Andrew Snelling, the creationist geologist who is most notable to me as 454 00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:15.039 being the guy who copies his work from the other creations geologists, Steve Austin, 455 00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:18.000 right down to copying his mistakes. So when Austin copied data from the 456 00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:22.720 wrong column of a table for one of his papers that resulted in Snelling copying 457 00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:26.200 Austin's incorrectly copied data for one of his papers, thus demonstrating the fact that 458 00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:30.640 creationists don't rigorously check their work. There were at least three sites available online, 459 00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:36.119 two papers and one AIG article that relied on this incorrectly copied data in 460 00:31:36.200 --> 00:31:38.359 order to make their point, with the most recent one being published in two 461 00:31:38.359 --> 00:31:44.279 thousand and one. So it's been over thirty years and all three of those 462 00:31:44.279 --> 00:31:48.440 pages are still up and remain uncorrected, though amusingly, the original nineteen ninety 463 00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:52.279 six paper by Austin was altered since I originally covered this back in twenty twenty. 464 00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:56.039 They changed from saying that the age of the sunset creater Basaltan Arizona is 465 00:31:56.079 --> 00:32:00.839 a range going from zero point two seven million years ago to zero point zero 466 00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:04.680 nine million years ago to saying that it is zero point two seven million years 467 00:32:04.759 --> 00:32:08.839 old plus or zero point zero nine million years So they've made a correction to 468 00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:14.039 this paper since I last visited it, but the data remains copied from the 469 00:32:14.079 --> 00:32:16.839 wrong column of the table. Anyway, back to the Sandstone, the only 470 00:32:16.839 --> 00:32:21.759 information I could find. Linking the sandstone in Israel to the Tepete Sandstone was 471 00:32:21.799 --> 00:32:24.680 in the form of a paper published in the Answers Research Journal by noted sloppy 472 00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:29.880 geologist Andrew Snelling, where he just straight up asserts that the Tepete sandstone is 473 00:32:29.920 --> 00:32:34.680 remarkably similar to the Ammouday Shalomo Formation sandstone, saying that there is no question 474 00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:38.599 that they correlate as direct equivalents, both in stratigraphic position and in their makeup. 475 00:32:39.039 --> 00:32:43.640 Well, I couldn't find a lot of information on the Ammouday Shalomo Formation, 476 00:32:43.720 --> 00:32:45.319 which I'm probably saying wrong because that's going to be a theme in this 477 00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:49.319 video. But what I did find was that it is likely the result of 478 00:32:49.319 --> 00:32:52.519 a relatively short period of sedimentation in the lower Middle Cambrian, with the difficulty 479 00:32:52.519 --> 00:32:57.519 in dating coming from the fact that it has zero fossils, or rather that 480 00:32:57.599 --> 00:33:00.839 we have discovered zero fossils in it. The Tapete Sandstone, on the other 481 00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:05.359 hand, is from the Middle Cambrian, so somewhat close in time geologically speaking, 482 00:33:05.720 --> 00:33:08.759 but the Tepete Sandstone has an abundance of fossils, particularly trace fossils, 483 00:33:08.759 --> 00:33:14.960 which are completely absence from the Omuda Shalomo formation. Aside from being sandstone and 484 00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:19.599 having been deposited in approximately the same geologic period, there doesn't seem to be 485 00:33:19.680 --> 00:33:22.799 much that is similar, and there's no real reason to assume that they were 486 00:33:22.839 --> 00:33:27.279 part of the same depositional event. How could a local flood deposit the same 487 00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:31.359 rock layer across multiple continents. I know you're speaking to other Christians now, 488 00:33:31.400 --> 00:33:36.720 but the answer is it didn't. These were deposited in separate events, and 489 00:33:36.759 --> 00:33:40.119 when I say events, I just mean depositional environments, because neither appears to 490 00:33:40.119 --> 00:33:45.519 be the result of any singular catastrophic event. With the Tepete sandstone actually being 491 00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:47.599 a great example of the type of layer I talked about earlier where you can 492 00:33:47.599 --> 00:33:52.240 trace it latterly and you see the environment change as you go. The Grand 493 00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:57.359 Canon also contains multiple flat layers that are sitting on top of one another without 494 00:33:57.400 --> 00:34:00.240 any evidence of erosion in between. This is one of those claims that I 495 00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:06.759 have never fully understood. Isn't the result of erosion a flattened smooth surface. 496 00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:10.280 My understanding is that the great unconformity of the Grand Canyon is actually an erosional 497 00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:15.000 surface. That is, there were physical features that were eroded away and have 498 00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:19.199 resulted in the so called missing layers. With regards to missing layers, they 499 00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:22.159 aren't really a problem at its most basic A missing layer could easily just be 500 00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:27.119 due to a lack of deposition at that particular site. There is deposition happening 501 00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:30.519 all over the earth today, but it's not uniform. My house is in 502 00:34:30.559 --> 00:34:35.159 no danger of being buried in sediment anytime soon because there's not much in the 503 00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:37.760 way of deposition happening where I am. So future geologists will not see a 504 00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:42.079 layer of rock where my house is for this time period, where there might 505 00:34:42.119 --> 00:34:44.800 be a layer that they would see that dates to our time period in another 506 00:34:44.840 --> 00:34:47.000 location. So the area that my house is in would be a missing layer 507 00:34:47.079 --> 00:34:51.119 just by virtue of the fact that a layer never formed there to begin with. 508 00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:54.039 And we're ignoring human activity here. I recognize that the foundation of my 509 00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:57.679 house, in the building of my house itself, would show up in the 510 00:34:57.679 --> 00:35:00.320 geologic record, as well as the roads and everything that are around it. 511 00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:02.719 We're just pretending that that doesn't happen right now. But it is also the 512 00:35:02.760 --> 00:35:07.159 case that layers that are exposed on the surface erode away, and in particular 513 00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:12.440 the Great unconformity happens to represent a period of missing layers that corresponds to a 514 00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:15.440 time when most of North America was covered by glaciers, which are some of 515 00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:20.960 the most efficient erodors in existence, and that would account for the nearly flat 516 00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:23.400 contact point between the older layers and the younger layers in the Grand Canyon. 517 00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:27.599 At any rate, this is where we get to say, follow the money 518 00:35:27.639 --> 00:35:31.079 when it comes to geology, as scientists working for oil companies use old ages 519 00:35:31.119 --> 00:35:37.639 and uniformitarianism as their basis for deciding where the oil should be, and unconformities 520 00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:40.760 are an important part of that equation. If younger creationism worked better at predicting 521 00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:44.679 where the oil would be, you can bet that they'd use it. But 522 00:35:44.840 --> 00:35:50.239 it doesn't, so they don't. Evolutionary in clients scientists believe these were deposited 523 00:35:50.320 --> 00:35:54.000 millions of years apart, and in fact other deposits relate in the interim in 524 00:35:54.039 --> 00:36:01.320 other places. Yes, and for example, the Coconino Sandstone sits directly on 525 00:36:01.360 --> 00:36:07.719 top of the Hermit Formation, but there's no indication of any layer deposited between 526 00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:12.440 these two layers seen elsewhere. Well, I'm once again having trouble finding information 527 00:36:12.440 --> 00:36:15.559 on that specific unconformity, but there is definite evidence of erosion in between the 528 00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:21.039 Coconino Formation and the Torawheep formation that sits above it. There are planer surfaces 529 00:36:21.119 --> 00:36:23.599 that is pretty much perfectly flat areas that cut off the tops of the cross 530 00:36:23.599 --> 00:36:28.519 bedded dunes of the Coconino Formation. Also, I would be remissed to not 531 00:36:28.559 --> 00:36:31.960 mention the fact that the Coconino Sandstone is an excellent example of Aeolian deposition, 532 00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:36.480 that is, it was formed by sand that was blown around in the wind. 533 00:36:36.880 --> 00:36:39.599 Creationists like to claim that the Coconino Sandstone was formed under water, because 534 00:36:39.719 --> 00:36:43.719 if it wasn't, then it couldn't have formed in the flood, but there 535 00:36:43.719 --> 00:36:46.599 are numerous issues with that. First, the cross bedding angle is consistent with 536 00:36:46.760 --> 00:36:51.000 dry sand dunes, not with sand collecting underwater. Cross Bedding is when the 537 00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:53.760 layering within a stratum is at an angle to the main bedding plane and indicates 538 00:36:53.840 --> 00:36:58.559 deposition by either wind or water current. And as the grains of sand behave 539 00:36:58.599 --> 00:37:01.000 differently in water than they do in air, the angle of the cross bedding 540 00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:06.239 will be different. Typically, crossbeds deposited by water reach a maximum angle of 541 00:37:06.239 --> 00:37:09.559 ten degrees. The crossbeds in the Coconino Formation range from eleven to thirty four 542 00:37:09.559 --> 00:37:13.840 degrees, with an average of about twenty five to twenty eight degrees, which 543 00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:16.239 creationists will claim is too low for dry sand dunes, which would usually be 544 00:37:16.119 --> 00:37:20.880 between thirty and thirty four degrees. There are a few reasons why the Coconino 545 00:37:20.920 --> 00:37:23.000 average is lower than thirty to thirty four degrees, with one of the main 546 00:37:23.079 --> 00:37:28.639 reasons being that there are different processes that create cross bedding ineolien environments, many 547 00:37:28.679 --> 00:37:31.480 of which are impossible in water, and some of which can have widely ranging 548 00:37:31.519 --> 00:37:36.599 angles from zero to forty degrees. In some cases, like grainfall processes, 549 00:37:36.639 --> 00:37:39.039 if you include the cross bedding that results from grainfall, that brings the average 550 00:37:39.079 --> 00:37:43.679 crossbed angle down in the case of the Coconino Formation. At the end of 551 00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:46.400 the day, what this comes down to is that despite having a low average 552 00:37:46.400 --> 00:37:51.800 angle four wind deposition, it is an impossibly high angle for water deposition. 553 00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:55.639 Second, there have been fossilized terrestrial vertebrate footprints, millipedd spider tracks, and 554 00:37:55.880 --> 00:38:00.840 rain drops found within the Coconino Formation. Given how high up in the sequence 555 00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:04.920 the Coconino Formation is, it would have to have formed long after all, 556 00:38:05.000 --> 00:38:07.400 the ground had been covered in water in the flood model, and that is 557 00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:12.440 indeed what creation is claim. But how does a rain drop hit dry sand 558 00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:15.320 and fossilize on the bottom of a worldwide ocean. How does a spider crawl 559 00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:20.480 down there or a reptile walk, Especially given that the whole formation is believed 560 00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:22.800 by creations to have formed in a matter of days, the rate of deposition 561 00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:28.960 required for that rapid a formation of such a vast area basically guarantees that any 562 00:38:29.039 --> 00:38:32.679 trace fossils would be completely obliterated. Even if the terrestrial reptile made it down 563 00:38:32.679 --> 00:38:37.480 to the seafloor during the violently tumultuous flood and somehow managed to walk in a 564 00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:40.920 fairly normal looking track, the track would literally be sand blasted out of existence. 565 00:38:42.440 --> 00:38:46.039 Supposedly five to ten million years passed before the Coconino sandstone was deposited on 566 00:38:46.079 --> 00:38:51.519 top of the Hermit formation, without evidence of any erosion, the Coconino looks 567 00:38:51.519 --> 00:38:54.039 like it was in fact deposited immediately on top of the Hermit Well. I've 568 00:38:54.039 --> 00:38:58.880 done some more digging pun intended, and I still can't find specific details about 569 00:38:58.880 --> 00:39:02.159 an unconformity between the Coconino and hermit layers. Pretty much all anyone wants to 570 00:39:02.159 --> 00:39:06.360 talk about is the great unconformity down at the bottom of the canyon. But 571 00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:09.320 really, I'm left wondering, what does it even matter? Do you think 572 00:39:09.320 --> 00:39:14.679 that non creationist geologists are just randomly decided that they're missing layers in places for 573 00:39:14.719 --> 00:39:17.239 the sole purpose of making the Earth look older than it is. Why would 574 00:39:17.239 --> 00:39:22.480 that even be necessary? Without unconformities, we still have hundreds of millions of 575 00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:25.320 years of rock layers at least, and if we bring radiometric dating into the 576 00:39:25.320 --> 00:39:29.599 mix, we have rocks that were formed on the Earth that are over four 577 00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:34.000 billion years old. There is no need to add missing layers in order to 578 00:39:34.039 --> 00:39:37.360 add time. And even if the missing time were completely made up, the 579 00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:42.480 geologic records still conclusively disproves a literal flood. So why do you guys even 580 00:39:42.559 --> 00:39:46.159 care that there's unconformities? Wouldn't you call this evidence for a global flood? 581 00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:51.880 No, the fun guy would not. Why would the lack of an unconformity 582 00:39:51.920 --> 00:39:54.440 mean a worldwide flood? As mentioned earlier, if the rock layers were the 583 00:39:54.480 --> 00:39:59.679 result of a flood, there wouldn't be distinct delineations between geologic layers, so 584 00:39:59.719 --> 00:40:02.719 the that there are places where you can obviously tell that different types of deposition 585 00:40:02.800 --> 00:40:07.159 happen in the same location but separated by time, demonstrates that the deposition did 586 00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:12.400 not happen in one single event. Or how about this one. You can 587 00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:16.719 go to many places on the planet and see row upon row of consecutively deposited 588 00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:23.519 rock layers that were soft when deposited and then bent, sometimes drastically. Rocks 589 00:40:23.679 --> 00:40:29.000 don't normally bent, they break because they're hard and brittle, But in many 590 00:40:29.039 --> 00:40:34.960 places we find whole sequences of strata that were bent without fracturing, indicating that 591 00:40:35.119 --> 00:40:38.480 all of the rock layers were rapidly deposited and folded while that you're still wet 592 00:40:38.519 --> 00:40:45.159 and pliable before final hardening without fracturing. Come on, man, fractures are 593 00:40:45.199 --> 00:40:51.079 clearly visible in every single picture you showed places where the bending rocks broke because 594 00:40:51.079 --> 00:40:52.920 they're hard and brittle. One of the pictures wasn't even a picture, it 595 00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:57.440 was a painting or a drawing, but there are still fractures clearly visible. 596 00:40:57.719 --> 00:41:00.719 If you were going to hire an artist to draw bent rock for you, 597 00:41:00.719 --> 00:41:02.199 you could have at least had them leave out the part of the formation that 598 00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:07.199 they were drawing. That disproves your point. But again, the clear delineation 599 00:41:07.199 --> 00:41:09.840 of the rock layers is your enemy here. If you claim that these rocks 600 00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:14.679 are bent because the bending happened before they fully lithified, then we would expect 601 00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:17.119 them to be muddled up together, with grain mixing happening more often than not 602 00:41:17.320 --> 00:41:21.400 at the contact points, you know, since they weren't lithified and the grains 603 00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:23.079 would have been free to move around. The fact that this is not the 604 00:41:23.159 --> 00:41:29.079 case demonstrates that they were in fact lithified when they bent. So how does 605 00:41:29.159 --> 00:41:32.960 this happen? Aren't rocks brittle? Well? Different rocks, unsurprisingly have different 606 00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:37.840 properties. Some are more ductile or bendy than others, but also through the 607 00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:42.280 rock cycle, rocks get buried deep underground, where they are subjected to high 608 00:41:42.320 --> 00:41:45.599 pressures and temperatures, often not enough to melt them, but enough to make 609 00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:50.320 them more ductile. To demonstrate this point, I took a crayon and attempted 610 00:41:50.360 --> 00:41:52.480 to bend it cold. It did not bend, it just snapped in two. 611 00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:55.199 I then took a second crayon and put it in a water bath that 612 00:41:55.239 --> 00:41:59.679 was kept between forty and fifty degrees celsius for about fifteen minutes or so, 613 00:42:00.039 --> 00:42:02.480 and when I tried to bend that one, it bent nearly in half and 614 00:42:02.519 --> 00:42:07.760 then solidified in that new position after it was allowed to cool. But also 615 00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:10.800 ignoring that demonstration about how temperature and pressure can change the ductility of a brittle 616 00:42:10.840 --> 00:42:15.719 object, and returning to the no fractures claim, even if you find a 617 00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:19.320 bent rock with no obvious fractures, which for the record, you did not, 618 00:42:19.920 --> 00:42:22.599 one of the processes of bending some of the more brittle rocks involves repeated 619 00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:27.320 fracturing under strain, the dissolving of some of the rock's own grains, followed 620 00:42:27.320 --> 00:42:30.679 by the recrystallization of these same grains in a way that quote unquote heals the 621 00:42:30.760 --> 00:42:36.559 rock, making it appear unfractured to the naked eye, but leaving behind microcrystalline 622 00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:39.360 veins that are only visible under a microscope. So to recap here, they 623 00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:44.079 do fracture when they bend, and even if they didn't, things get more 624 00:42:44.119 --> 00:42:46.320 bendy when they get close to their melting temperature. So it's possible to bend 625 00:42:46.320 --> 00:42:51.400 a brittle object without breaking it under the right conditions, which happen to be 626 00:42:51.440 --> 00:42:53.360 the conditions that you find deep down in the crust of the earth where these 627 00:42:53.480 --> 00:42:58.880 rocks were when they bent, And there's so much more. We find fossils 628 00:42:58.880 --> 00:43:01.480 of sea creatures in a rock layers that cover all of the continents. Yeah, 629 00:43:01.599 --> 00:43:07.039 fun facts that you seem to be overlooking. But environments have changed over 630 00:43:07.119 --> 00:43:10.199 time. We're talking hundreds of millions of years here. There have been inland 631 00:43:10.239 --> 00:43:14.639 seas that have come and gone, sea levels rising and falling, rivers forming 632 00:43:14.639 --> 00:43:17.480 and drying up, and yes, even flooding. It would be weirder to 633 00:43:17.559 --> 00:43:22.599 not find sea creatures on every continent, given old ages and evolution. For 634 00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:25.320 example, most of the rock layers in the walls of the Grand Canon more 635 00:43:25.360 --> 00:43:30.000 than a mile above sea level contain marine fossils in the layers that are indicative 636 00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:35.800 of marine environments. Yes, but there are places like the Coconino Formation where 637 00:43:35.840 --> 00:43:39.800 we have literal deserts sandwich between marine layers, which is not possible if they 638 00:43:39.880 --> 00:43:45.079 all formed in the flood. Fossils, shellfish or even found in the Himalays. 639 00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:49.760 Yeah they are, but guess what the Himalays used to be seafloor. 640 00:43:50.039 --> 00:43:52.559 The Himalay is formed when the Indian Plate met the Eurasian plate and began the 641 00:43:52.599 --> 00:43:58.159 process of subduction. This process basically scraped the sediment off the seafloor and piled 642 00:43:58.199 --> 00:44:00.519 it up into the mountains that we know as the Himalayas today. And guess 643 00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:05.079 what types of fossils you'd expect to find on a sea floor. The ones 644 00:44:05.119 --> 00:44:10.199 we find on the Himalayas. We find extensive fossil graveyards and exquisitely preserved fossils. 645 00:44:10.559 --> 00:44:15.000 For example, billions of nodeloid fossils are found in a layer within the 646 00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:21.599 Red Wall Limestone of Grand Canyon. This layer was deposited catastrophically by a massive 647 00:44:21.599 --> 00:44:24.519 flow of sediment, mostly limesan. To continue my trend in this video of 648 00:44:24.559 --> 00:44:30.960 mispronunciation of words that I can't find anyone actually pronouncing online anywhere, I'm going 649 00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:36.119 to quote Timothy Hellwool. Sorry Timothy. He's a hydrologist who put together a 650 00:44:36.199 --> 00:44:38.639 view of literature that is relevant to flood geology as it relates to the Grand 651 00:44:38.639 --> 00:44:44.280 Canyon. And he's also a devout Christian who contributes to Biologos, the Christian 652 00:44:44.360 --> 00:44:49.519 organization dedicated to harmonizing science and the Bible. Quote. The Red Wall Limestone 653 00:44:49.559 --> 00:44:52.440 consists of nearly pure carbonate rock with structure, composition, and fossil content, 654 00:44:52.599 --> 00:44:58.199 contradicting the idea that it originated as pure calcium carbonate sediments introduced over the canyon 655 00:44:58.239 --> 00:45:00.239 at the same time as the floodwaters became hot from the fountains of the Great 656 00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:05.159 Deep. The Thundersprings member of the Red Wall is famous for its alternating light 657 00:45:05.199 --> 00:45:08.400 and dark bands of fossil rich chirt and carbonate rock. Such numerous, long 658 00:45:08.440 --> 00:45:14.400 and continuous beds of alternating composition are inconsistent with a single catastrophic flood event. 659 00:45:15.239 --> 00:45:20.280 So the evidence for the flood is everywhere. Nope, not even a little 660 00:45:20.280 --> 00:45:25.960 bit evidence against it. On the other hand, if your assumptions don't blind 661 00:45:27.000 --> 00:45:30.480 you to it, literally the only way you could conclude that Noah's flood caused 662 00:45:30.480 --> 00:45:35.159 the rock layers, Or if you start with that assumption and are blinded to 663 00:45:35.199 --> 00:45:39.159 the evidence against that assumption, why would Charles Lyle have argued against that conclusion 664 00:45:39.159 --> 00:45:43.960 when he admitted to a belief in a literal worldwide flood. If the evidence 665 00:45:44.000 --> 00:45:46.719 actually supported all these rock layers forming in the flood, I'm sure he would 666 00:45:46.760 --> 00:45:52.119 have been perfectly happy to find scientific confirmation of his religious beliefs, but he 667 00:45:52.159 --> 00:45:57.360 did not. But ironically, in changing the clear meaning of God's word to 668 00:45:57.480 --> 00:46:01.400 accommodate claims by fallible humans, many who don't believe the scripture and deny the 669 00:46:01.400 --> 00:46:07.079 God of some Christians have actually done away with some of the best scientific evidence 670 00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:12.760 to confirm the Bible's claims. Well, given how wrong the Bible is about 671 00:46:12.840 --> 00:46:16.119 nearly every topic it discusses, that's probably for the best. That's it for 672 00:46:16.199 --> 00:46:20.280 this one. Today's Common to the Day comes to us from Ajax Willis three 673 00:46:20.360 --> 00:46:22.320 nine six two, who says, the thing that struck me was that in 674 00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:27.039 order to find out what her husband truly wanted her to be, after explicitly 675 00:46:27.079 --> 00:46:30.079 being told that she was perfect, the way she was was to go to 676 00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:32.840 other men to find out what they wanted. This was on my live stream 677 00:46:32.840 --> 00:46:36.440 with my partner, which is a new thing that we're doing. She's reading 678 00:46:36.480 --> 00:46:39.559 me chapters of a Christian relationship book called Becoming the Woman of His Dreams, 679 00:46:39.920 --> 00:46:44.599 and then we roast it together. That's on Tuesday's at one pm Eastern. 680 00:46:44.800 --> 00:46:46.639 This is in response to the fact that the woman who wrote the book seems 681 00:46:46.679 --> 00:46:51.960 determined to ignore what her husband tells her and then decides that she knows better 682 00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:53.760 than him about what he wants in a woman. As she said in the 683 00:46:53.800 --> 00:46:58.079 first chapter, he said that she is the woman of his dreams, as 684 00:46:58.159 --> 00:47:00.280 she is now. Her response to that was to survey a bunch of men 685 00:47:00.360 --> 00:47:05.000 about what they want in a woman so that she could compile their answers into 686 00:47:05.039 --> 00:47:08.360 her book. But amusingly, she even ignored their answers, sometimes insisting that 687 00:47:08.400 --> 00:47:12.840 she knows that even though men don't say it, they really want a woman 688 00:47:12.880 --> 00:47:15.320 who praise all the time. Anyway, I chose this comment mainly as an 689 00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:19.440 excuse to promote it. I set it up as a YouTube podcast, which 690 00:47:19.559 --> 00:47:22.360 is a new thing that I don't fully understand. Apparently there's no RSS link 691 00:47:22.480 --> 00:47:25.679 or a way to add the podcast to any normal podcast player, but you'll 692 00:47:25.679 --> 00:47:29.719 be able to find the episodes on YouTube music if you live in the US. 693 00:47:30.239 --> 00:47:31.199 I don't know. It seems weird, but I'm trying it out. 694 00:47:31.480 --> 00:47:35.000 First three episodes should be up by the time this comes out, so I'll 695 00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:37.159 leave a card to the playlist. Thanks for watching. I'll be back next 696 00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:39.440 Friday with more, but if you need to get your Rhino fix in before 697 00:47:39.480 --> 00:47:43.599 then, I live stream with service every Wednesday dight thirty Eastern on my other 698 00:47:43.679 --> 00:47:45.880 channel, The Watering Hole, and I stream with my partner now every Tuesday 699 00:47:45.880 --> 00:47:50.159 at one pm Eastern. Here thanks to Tim Robertson for being my Patreon and 700 00:47:50.199 --> 00:47:53.519 sponsorship's manager, and special thanks as always to my patrons, Sarah Peasley and 701 00:47:53.679 --> 00:47:58.440 all the rest who are the re uploads for click pait purposes that trick my 702 00:47:58.559 --> 00:48:01.039 channel. If you'd like to make me redo old videos, you can join 703 00:48:01.119 --> 00:48:04.599 us on Patreon for as little as a dollar per week over at Patreon dot 704 00:48:04.639 --> 00:48:07.320 com, slash vice Rhino, or by supporting the channel and one of the 705 00:48:07.320 --> 00:48:09.199 other methods that can be found at links doot vice rhino dot com, which 706 00:48:09.239 --> 00:48:13.199 is also where you'll find links from other projects. If for whatever reason, 707 00:48:13.239 --> 00:48:15.360 you want to send me stuff, my pelbox addresses in the description. See 708 00:48:15.400 --> 00:48:16.280 you next time.