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Good to be back with you here on

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year, we actually do have a
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that also means that we've got to
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some other tidbits as well. I
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Hello Dan Rayfield? Can I say

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that we've almost made it? We
got to get through this podcast. We've

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almost made it to the finish line
of another year. They said it wouldn't

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last you and me. It's apparently
gonna last through another calendar year. How

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are you. I'm good. I'm
looking forward to talking about the year that

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was and some of the stuff we've
got coming up. I was before we

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got on here. I was looking
at my schedule that I keep for my

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substack and noticing that we've got some
good fight you know, usually the year

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starts out a little slow, not
unusual, but we've got pretty much notable

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fights every weekend in the month of
January into February, of course, with

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the undisputed Heavyweight Championship fight and beyond
so and that's even before the folks at

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PBC have scheduled their first non showtime
events as they embark on their new deal

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with Prime Video with Amazon. So
I'm hopeful that in twenty twenty four we'll

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have as many good and big fights
as we had in twenty twenty three because

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it has been. For all of
the bad news that has occurred, it's

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been a pretty damn good year for
boxing in the ring for sure. Yeah,

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we'll go over a lot of that
in a little bit. Thank you

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for finding us however you've done so, Dan Substack his newsletter social media link.

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Make sure you're following subscribing. We
are typically here preview mode Thursday into

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Friday night, Thursday night into Friday, i should say, and then we're

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usually in the recap mode. Now, Rayfield and I have been going over

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all of this and because of Mayhem
and New Year's Eve and the fact that

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there is a world title fight in
Japan. But you're still checking as we

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release this podcast. There's not a
way to really to see this as of

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yet if you're in the United States. But the title fights Sunday Morning.

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Maybe that's gonna change right now,
It's doubtful. So there's peeps, there's

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probably not going to be a review
podcast. I say probably not. I

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won't say definitively no, but probably
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New Year's weekend without us, but
we will be back in the new year

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and ready to go because Virgil Ortiz
fights next weekend, not this weekend,

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but next weekend. So you know, Rayfield's got the social calendar going for

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New Year's Eve. I know your
giants have been long out of the playoff

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hopes of the NFL, but my
Buccaneers can clinch the playoffs Sunday. I'm

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ultra busy with that on New Year's
afternoon with the NFL playing Sunday. It's

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not that we don't care about your
peeps, savages, It's not that we

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don't love you. There's just probably
not gonna be a recap podcast. And

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you did like previously when I had
the computer problems like two or three weeks

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ago, and we were physically trying
to figure out how to do the podcast.

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You had people that were almost,
I don't know, despondent. They

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were like addicts going through withdraw with
the shakes because it was three o'clock Monday

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afternoon, and where's my Rayfiel.
I'm just warning them, I'm preparing them.

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They'll be there, they'll live,
they'll live. We're fine on that.

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Now, you and I have not
done this since the monster owe him.

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Naoya, in a way, does
get his win, does get his

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next undisputed titles. By the way, he also gets named the Fighter of

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the Year by Dan Rayfield. But
more than more on that coming up.

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It's a victory over Martin to Poulos, I've got to confess that it took

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longer than I thought it was going
to take. In his title fight in

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Japan on Tuesday morning. Now,
it looked as though he had him significantly

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hurt, knocked down at the end
of the third round, But the bell

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rings or was it the end of
the fourth round? Fourth round? But

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the bell rings? Say by the
bell the cliche. He recovered in between

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rounds, and Topolus deserves credit because
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still aggressive. He didn't just run, try not to get hit, try

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to last the distance. There are
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the win. He's undisputed again at
one hundred and twenty two pounds. Dan,

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give us more pick it up from
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it took a little longer than you
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the greatness of an in a way, because the expectation is he's going to

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just destroy other champions in short order, and Topoulis is a good fighter,

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maybe not a great fighter, and
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little longer. Remember this was the
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so he was giving it everything he
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ten, that's probably a combination of
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as the fact that anyways trying to
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you know, just because it went
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was, I don't think that's a
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he won. Well, one judge
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and I think he had won one
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cards. It was a ninety to
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eighty one on another card, and
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was eighty eight to eighty two at
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was yet another dominating performance from in
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in his weight classes, whichever weight
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bandam weight division, like he did
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back before that, he was doing
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champion. He skipped over the flyweight
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of damage in the junior bantamweight division, and then went to bantam weight and

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now he's the king of the hill, the man at one twenty two there's

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never been TJ. He's now the
four belt champion, undisputed at one twenty

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two, and that's the big deal
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say, you know, there they're
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that's true in some weight divisions for
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everybody would be doing and everybody strives
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elites have been able to do that. And not only is he the four

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belt champion in the twenty two pound
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was a three belt champion, the
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And you were explaining that before that's
hard to believe. There wasn't even

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a two belt undisputed. And I
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been around forever, but it's been
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so there's been fighters that would could
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belts. But in the modern age, if you will, there's been great

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fighters and lineal champions and guys who've
unified titles and things like that, but

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it's never been one solitary champion.
So you know, it's a big deal.

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So you know, in a way, in the earlier fight in two

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thousand and in twenty three, became
a four division champion, and now he

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has established himself as undisputed in this
way class. He said he wants a

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Cantinue to defend that title, which
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in twenty twenty four. I think
there's a reasonable chance that he may fight

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three times in the calendar year,
according to what his promoters that were saying,

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they have you know, in our
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right after the fight. In Japan, a lot of times what they do

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is they'll talk right after the fight, but then they'll have like a more

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of a press thing the next day, you know, whis a little bit

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more to like reflect and to look
ahead rather than reflect. In any event,

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it was a spectacular performance. He
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his jab is good as you know, everything that we talked about within a

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way he did, I mean.
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with us a clean as a whistle, right hand kind of on the forehead,

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kind of maybe near the temple,
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just froze to Paulus in place.
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a step back and then dropped down
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was out of it. I mean, he tried to get up. I

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mean, I give him credit for
the heart that he showed, but he

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could not beat that count. And
that was all she wrote, I mean,

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and and it was it didn't even
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like crazy celebration. It wasn't the
same. Remember when Tyson knocked out Sphinx

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and he just kind of looked at
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of opened his arm. Yeah,
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little reminded me about that little bit. It wasn't quite the same thing,

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but there was no like crazy celebration. It's like, I expected to do

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this and he did it, and
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do. People have to remember that
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at that level in that moment is
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I feel like Tapaulus showed much more
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he gained fans. I'm sure from
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because of that performancing that that to
me, that meets the what I always

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hope for in these biggest fights,
which is whatever the result is that it

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elevates the winner and the loser.
And I feel like the performance that in

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a way turned in obviously elevates him
even higher, and it elevates that topalis

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also because it makes you want to
see him. I was thinking to myself,

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you know what, I wouldn't mind
seeing Marlin Tapolas agains Stephen Fulton as

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an example. They're the two guys
that in a way defeated, but they're

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both really good fighters, and I
think that would be a hell of a

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fight. Whether it will happen,
who that knows, but look in a

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way spectacular. As always, he's
onto what will be a series of defenses

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this year instead of just marching after
belts. Most likely you're looking at a

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may fight against the former title holder, Luis Neary, who is his mandatory

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if you go back to the WBC
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At that convention, it was mandated
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the rotation that the winner of in
a way to Polas would have to next

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defend against the mandatory in their organization. Obviously, we're four for the belt,

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so I'm pretty sure that that will
happen. Nary has a little bit

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of a history with Japan, having
missed weight and having been a strip of

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the Banhamway title back in the day, and kind of has like a he's

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kind of like an enemy number one
and in some regard over in Japan,

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So that would make for sort of
a you know, a kind of a

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big promotion and uh, and then
beyond that, you know they've talked again,

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same guys they were talking about prior
to this fight, maybe at Jhon

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Real Casamarro, those types of names. So uh, in a way,

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he's gonna have plenty of good names
to fight. And I think once twenty

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twenty four is over, if he's
still standing, we'll see him move up

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to the featherweight division and go after
more hardware. But what can you say.

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He's a he's a he's a great
fighter. I mean, and he's

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beenous. He's been scoring impressive knockouts
even while moving up to one eighteen into

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one twenty two, and that just
that's gonna segue right into you naming him

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the fighter of the year. You
just remember one thing. By the way,

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he turned pro as a junior flyweight. He won his first title in

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the one hundred and eight pound division
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So his record now in world title
fights, like his overall boxing record,

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he's twenty six to zero with twenty
three knockouts. His record in world

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championship fights enough twenty one to oh
with nineteen knockouts, and he's not beating

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bums, He's he's beating other champions
and other quality fighters. And I was

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just going right there because one of
the biggest components to your Fighter of the

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Year is who he beat with,
Stephen Fulton, and he beat him badly

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and knocked him out earlier this year
in the first of those two wins,

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and that, I don't want to
say that was eye opening. We knew

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the Monster could punch, but he
dominated Fulton moving up a division even he

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dominated Fulton in that fight. So
that segues into follow up on that on

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why this made the Monster stand out
the most to you for twenty twenty three,

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as you've put out on your substack, he's your Fighter the Year.

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Yeah, I mean, I know
there's a lot of good candidates. You

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know, there are several good candidates, but there was really only three.

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I mean, I do honorable mentions
also, I think it's the winner.

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Plus I think if you read the
story, it's like six honorable mentions,

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But to me, there was really
three guys that were in the running to

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actually win. You know, I
use the old saying it's an honor just

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to be nominated. So the guys
that got the honorable mentions, you know,

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good for them, Guys like Dravonte, Tank Davis and David Benavite's and

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O'shaki Foster. I mean, they
had tremendous years in their own right.

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Bam Rodriguez coming off the jaw injury
and you know, having a winning another

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title and getting the jaw injury,
having the tremendous and dominating performance against Sonny

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Edwards to unify. So all really
good years for these guys. But the

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three guys that were in the running
in my mind anyway, and I'm probably

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not alone when I say this,
it was in a way for sure,

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Devin Haney, who had a big
year. He beat Lomachenko and then he

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that was to defend the undisputed lightweight
title. And then in his first title,

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his first fight at one hundred and
forty, he didn't just beat Regis

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Prograde, you know, he took
him to school, knocked him down and

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won literally twelve rounds to zero to
win another world title. And then you

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had Terrence Crawford who only had the
one fight, but what a fight it

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was. It was, as I
have stated numerous times, to me in

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my time of covering boxing, you'd
have to you know, even maybe you

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know historically it stands as one of
the best big fight wins ever in terms

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of just you know, the ultimate
summit meeting showdown where you perform at the

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absolute apex of your game and you
completely pummel and route and destroy, you

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know, a fighter that is an
outstanding pound for pound level guy in his

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own right, So you have to
make the pick at that highest level.

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So hany tremendous year. I kind
of eliminated him from the standpoint that the

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Loma Chanko fight, it's a win, it's a great win. I give

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him credit for it. I'm a
Hainy fan. Uh Personally, I scored

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the fight a draw, so that
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fight. It was a close fight, So if he had gotten that Loma

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win a little more cleanly, you
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So I kind of said, Okay, I can't give it to him

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on that, even though it was
a great year. Then I was thinking

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about Terrence Crawford and when you compare
it to in a way, the one

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drawback if there is that Crawf only
fought one time. And I'm not saying

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you can't be the fighter of the
year with only one fight. It certainly

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happened at times in the history of
boxing, but that probably meant there was

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not another fighter with at a similarly
superb year that had more than one fight.

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And so as phenomenal as the victory
was for Crawford against Spence, and

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remember that was such a big win
that I again, I'm not the end

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all be all, but from my
personal viewpoint, I moved Crawford to number

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one pound for pound off that victory
I had. I didn't have him number

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one before that win, so that
that put him into that number one position

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pound for pound. And let's and
let's add this. Crawford's tooting his own

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horn. He's out on social media
and he's saying, I'm the guy that

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beat another pound for pound, top
five guy, undefeated, unified champion,

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and it doesn't matter that I only
had one fight. I'm the fighter of

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the year. He's saying that about
himself. Okay, well, none of

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those things are wrong, but I
agree with you. If somebody else wins

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two important fights, it outweighs winning
only one important fight. The personalities and

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dominated those fights right. So Terrence
Crawford is entitled to his opinion. He

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can say whatever he wants. In
the end, you know, I can't

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tell how many fighters I have heard
through the year say, you know,

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I just do my fights in the
ring. It's up to you guys,

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meaning the fans and the media to
pick, you know, who's pound for

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pound, who's the fighter of the
year, that kind of business. Who

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gets in the Hall of Fame.
Obviously, that's up to the press,

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who's in the voting panel. It's
not like a negative to like be pick

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number two. I got him number
one pound for pound, and he can

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say what he wants. I disagree
with him. Fight more than once a

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year, and if he had fought
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been the fighter of the year.
To be quite honest with you. But

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when you look at what in a
way did you know it Trumpedd in my

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opinion, the combination of the history
that he made, they are. They

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both accomplished two big deals this year, which is Crawford did it first and

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then in a way did it a
few months later. They're the only two

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fighters to become a four belt undisputed
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in twenty seventeen and did it as
the junior welterweight champion, and then of

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course in July did it in the
in the welterweight division. And in a

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way he did it like we talked
about at the end of last year,

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he became the four belt champion in
the bandamweight division, and three eight hundred

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and seventy eight days later he does
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division. And the thing about it
also, you know, these two guys

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have been kind of back and forth
in terms of who's the best, who's

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number one, who's gonna be the
fighter of the year, all all year

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long, pretty much because when they
fought in July, it was in a

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way pummeling Fulton on one of the
weekday fights in Japan, and then it

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was a few days later on the
Saturday that it was Terrence Crawford scoring the

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three knockdowns and knocking out Eryl Spence. So, look, these are both

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Hall of Fame fighters, they're both
greats of the time, they're both as

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good as it gets. They're one
and two and the pound for pound however

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you want to put them. I've
said on a number of occasions. You

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know, I may have Crawford number
one and in a way number two one

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pound for pound, but to me, anybody that does a pound for pound

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you have to have one of those
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And then to me, there's like
a fall off to who's number three.

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You know, people can argue it's
ooh sick, or it's Bivol,

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or it's maybe it's Canelo, or
maybe it's this, or maybe it's that.

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But the point is, in a
way and Crawford have separated themselves from

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the rest of the pack in the
sport, and and Crawford has been the

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Fighter of the Year. I've picked
Crawford twice previously as the Fighter Fighter of

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the Year, so I'm not like
biased against Crawford. I just felt like

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and I would have no problem picking
him a third time if I thought he

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should be it. I have had
Manny Pacyat as a Fighter of the Year

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three times in the past. And
if you go on my substack and read

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the article, you'll see at the
bottom I've been picking a Fighter of the

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Year since I started at USA today
in the year two thousand, so I

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have all of my picks every single
year from two thousand to the president,

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you'll see a list of you know, pretty much everybody in there's Hall of

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Fame level. There's a couple that
pulled surprises, like when Johnson for example.

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But you know, I just felt
like in a way, over the

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course of the three hundred and sixty
five days, was just a nose ahead

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of Terrence Crawford and to a little
bit more of an extent again ahead of

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Devin Hainey. But you know,
I'll say another thing, TJ this year

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compared to a lot of years,
probably one of the years that was more

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difficult to pick than others, because
a lot of times it's pretty easy.

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Like picking Canelo when he became undisputed
against Plant wasn't hard to do, you

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know, right, go back to
long time ago when Bernard Hopkins ran through

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the Middleway tournament and then knocked out
Tito Trindeat, not hard to pick him

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as the fighter the yere look at
some of the years at Packyhowder, look

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at some of the years that Floyd
at These were not hard picks. This

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was a hard pick because you've got
such greatness at the top. And one

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more note from me, since We've
now reached the end of December. Terrence,

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take to social media and tell us
when you're fighting again, Because it's

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been five months since you fought Eryl
Spence. Are you fighting him again?

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Are you fighting somebody else again?
Gotta have to wait till next summer for

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you to fight again. You're being
a little harsh on that's not really He's

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let us know, let us Spence
exercise the rematch right. Obviously, it

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was originally supposed to be at the
end of this year. We knew that

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wasn't going to actually happen. But
because of the fact that PBC is switching

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their broadcasters, and there's other things
that are way out of the hands of

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both Erol Spence and Terrence Crawford.
I do not give I can give Terrence

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Crawford a grief about this or that
or whatever, but not not this.

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This is not in his control.
Are you telling me that Terrence Crawford and

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Erol Spence could be fighting like March
April may Maybe not like that. It's

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possible. There's a lot of things
that are possible. I guess I'm still

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not entirely convinced that the rematch is
going to happen. I told you back

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in September. You kept saying to
me they invoked it. I said,

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I believe it when I see it. Oh, I believe that too.

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I'll believe it when I see it, all right, And so now we'll

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segue off of that part. And
it is a preview podcast, and I

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should make mention we will have one
final bet Us boxing show Friday's at one

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Eastern time for twenty twenty three,
the final one of this year. And

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so on that show, we'll be
talking about Vido Melnecki fighting in New Jersey

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on Friday night, and also this
Caz Ioka world title fight in Japan Sunday

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morning, US times Sunday night,
New Year's Eve before they ring in the

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new year in Tokyo Sunday night.
So we'll preview those a little more in

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handicap those a little more. Again. Melniki is a significant favorite, like

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a nine to one favorite, and
he is under his contender fight. He

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is the main event in Newark,
New Jersey. Ioka is also significantly favored,

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and I need to know more about
this opponent and is he really a

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legitimate threat to Ioka here coming in
this main event in Japan. So while

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we're in the preview mode, tell
me about Josber Perez and the WBA Junior

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Bantamweight Championship title fight in Japan in
the preview mode. Please Well, first

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of all, I don't know if
a lot of Americans know Ioka that well

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or appreciate him, but they should
if you spend a few minutes examining his

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record or watching some of his fights. This is a guy that's like pushing

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Hall of Fame level in his career. I mean, he may not be

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a big name in the United States, he's not the number one name in

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Japan even that belongs at this time
to in a way obviously, but he

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has won bona fide titles in four
way classes strawweight, junior, flyweight,

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flyweight, junior, bandawaight. He
will be making the first defense of this

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title. Remember, he had the
two fight series with Joshua Franco where the

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first fight was supposed to be a
unification. It was called the draw.

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He then gave up a title to
meet Franco in the rematch because it was

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just worth so much more money and
they weren't going to allow him to unify

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because of mandatory obligations. Et cetera. So he defeated frankin the rematch,

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and so instead of having the w
BO belt also, he vacated that and

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then won the WBA title. So
he's defending that as you mentioned against Jos

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bar Perez that takes place in Tokyo. What I find interesting is, you

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know, in the United States,
there are certain dates where everybody expects a

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big boxing match, you know,
for you know, superstar Mexican fighters.

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You have the Sinko Mile Saturday.
You also have the independent Mexican Independence Day

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weekend that takes place the second week
of September. There have been you know,

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Top Rank has sort of made into
a big deal for a superstar Puerto

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Rican fighter on the Saturday of the
Puerto Rican Day Parade weekend in New York

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City, where they have usually a
big Puerto Rican fight. So those those

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have become sort of you know,
dates to circle where you know there's going

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to be sort of like a big
deal fight. Well, in Japan it

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has been traditioned for a number of
years where they not just for you know,

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a particular fighter, but there's typically
like a celebration of boxing around the

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New Year's holiday. On New Year's
Eve, sometimes the day before in that

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week obviously in a way fought on
the twenty sixth, And there have been

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years where there's been you know,
five, six seven world title fights on

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that in and around the New Year's
holiday. This year there's just the one

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fight in terms of the title fight
with Ioka against Perez. Do you know

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what TJ. This is going to
be. Ioka has thirty three professional fights.

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This will be a thirty fourth professional
fight. Will be out of those

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thirty four professional fights, he'll be
his twelfth fight on New Year's Eve.

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It's like his stage. Yeah,
I mean, that's that's it's a standard

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almost set your watch boy in Japan. It's amazing. So it is kind

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of a big deal for him.
And as I said, he's going to

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defend this newly acquired title for the
first time. And you asked me about

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so Ioka is a really good fighter. I mean, he is no joke.

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He's been around for quite a while
and he's beaten some very quality guys

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through the years. He is Johns
re Perez one of those quality guys.

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It's kind of shaky. He's got
a good record. He's twenty wins three

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losses with eighteen knockouts. He's still
in his twenties, twenty eight years old

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from Venezuela. And in his biggest
fight, he challenged for the WBA Flyway

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title, So this is a weight
class above that, and that was in

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twenty twenty and he lost the decision
to Ardam Delachian, who has you know,

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been around for quite a while.
So if that that's like his biggest

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fight so far, you know,
can he do anything against Ioka? Obviously

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the underdog for a reason, but
it's not as though he doesn't have some

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experience against a better level of opponent. But Ioka, as I said to

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you, he's a guy that's I
got big wins on his record. He

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does have a win over Franco that
was impressive. He's beaten uh, you

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know, the the other UH multi
division champion in Donnie Niettes. He has

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beaten Francisco Rodriguez Junior, who's been
a champion in multiple classes, Kosi Tanaka,

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who's won titles in four weight classes
for three and maybe he's going for

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four. But again, number of
wins, you know, McWilliams Arroyo was

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a good fighter who he defeated.
He's beaten a number of good guys,

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Juan Carlos Revecco, if you go
back a few years ago by a knockout,

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I might add. I mean again, these are not household names,

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but if you follow the lower weight
classes, these are quality guys. Felix

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Alvarado who became a champion. He
beat him when Felix was undefeated, so

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he's been and he beat he beat
like one of my favorite Japanese fighters are

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of all time, who I always
call like the Japanese gott he who's won

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titles in multiple classes. This was
a unification fight in the strawweight division against

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my man a at Yeagaishi, who's
always been in good fights if you follow

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Japanese boxing. So all I'm saying
is, you know, Ioka may not

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have that big name reputation in America
or with fight fans on this side of

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the ocean the Pacific, but he's
a damn good fighter. He's been doing

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this thing for a long time.
And uh, you know, I've been

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watching him for many years and you
know, he's really good and we'll see

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if he can keep it. The
other I also will say this, I

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was fortunate to see him fight live
one time. Uh, and this was

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a card that he fought in UH
in the forum in in Los you know,

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right outside Los Angeles, Engwood,
California. It was one of the

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UH, one of the UH.
Tom Loffar had done a series of the

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super Fly cards and he fought in
the United States and had had a win

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on that cart against Arroyo. Wasn't
a world title fight, but it was

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still, you know, good to
see him in person. All right,

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00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:52,920
So again, that is Sunday morning
for us here in the United States,

407
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,759
and as it stands, we'll keep
it in tune with your social media,

408
00:25:55,799 --> 00:25:57,359
your substec. It doesn't look like
there's TV, and it doesn't look like

409
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:02,880
there's going to be You'll have to
fight on YouTube those kind of things.

410
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,519
The social media links will be there, uh, for the for the finish

411
00:26:06,519 --> 00:26:08,400
of the fight. Maybe if it's
a knockout, et cetera. To look

412
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,400
into it. And again we'll handicap
it more on the bet Us show.

413
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:18,599
All Right, some news Deontay Wilder
coming off of last weekend in the day

414
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:23,640
of reckoning. Uh, it reckoned, it reckoned badly for him. It

415
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,200
wrecked his future too with the possible
fight. Although he says he would like

416
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:32,920
to go on. Uh. He
did bring up any number of scenarios,

417
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,680
including maybe fighting Anthony Joshua again.
I will I will just say this.

418
00:26:36,839 --> 00:26:41,920
I've enjoyed watching him, interviewing him, uh and talking about this, but

419
00:26:41,039 --> 00:26:45,279
this just looks, smells and feels
like the end for him. I mean,

420
00:26:45,279 --> 00:26:48,759
he's saying one thing. Uh,
somebody joked with me, and I

421
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,920
don't think we joked about on the
podcast. Uh. He's gotten very comfortable

422
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,599
with all the money, and that's
fine, and so is the hunger still

423
00:26:56,599 --> 00:26:59,960
there? As this person said,
it's like Rocky and Mickey sitting on the

424
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,880
to the bed in Rocky three,
one of your favorite You got civilized,

425
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:07,880
right, Yeah, you know,
maybe maybe that's part of the downfall here

426
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,960
at the very end. I don't
know the mixture, Like we talked about,

427
00:27:11,079 --> 00:27:12,880
Fury may be beat it out of
him, et cetera. I don't

428
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:17,359
think that the Joshua fight's not a
realistic fight for twenty twenty four or not

429
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,319
right now. So I don't know
what else there. You never say never,

430
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,880
I mean, but the thing is, like I find it to be

431
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:30,720
hilarious where he's the fight was signed. Joshua did his part. You got

432
00:27:30,759 --> 00:27:33,759
to do your part, and he
didn't. He failed miserably at the part.

433
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:34,839
Doesn't make him a bad guy.
He just didn't win the fight,

434
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:40,160
and there goes the deal. Now. Like anything, if the two sides

435
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,400
agreed, they could have redone a
deal. Obviously, the financials would be

436
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,359
a little bit different, I'm sure, and they can probably still make the

437
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,480
fight, But I don't think that
the public demand after that atrocious performance from

438
00:27:49,519 --> 00:27:52,480
wild There is going to be there. That's right. If you were the

439
00:27:52,519 --> 00:27:56,039
people that are running the boxing program
in Saudi Arabia, who are paying the

440
00:27:56,079 --> 00:27:59,599
big money for these events, are
you would you rather do that fight or

441
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,119
do something else? I think you
might want to do something that might be

442
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,559
viewed as a more competitive fight at
this moment in time. I think you'd

443
00:28:04,599 --> 00:28:08,240
be hard pressed to find a lot
of people who would pick Deontay Wilder at

444
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,799
this moment in time to defeat Anthony
Joshua. We've seen upsets happen, sure,

445
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,920
but I just found it amusing to
say that, you know, to

446
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,960
see some of the comments from Deontay
post loss saying he would still do the

447
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,119
fight, and it's like, now
Joshua doesn't want to do the fight.

448
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,440
Well, yeah, no, shit, you lost, dude, what do

449
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,759
you expect? I mean, I
will say this. I do understand promoters

450
00:28:30,839 --> 00:28:33,319
jobs or to hype their guys and
the whole thing. But Eddie Hearn saying

451
00:28:33,319 --> 00:28:37,519
in the aftermath of all of this, Deontay Wilder was never any good.

452
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,680
I mean, that's I'm paraphrasing what
he was saying. He was never he

453
00:28:40,759 --> 00:28:42,759
was never Anthony Joshua, he was
never any good. He wasn't fighting real

454
00:28:42,799 --> 00:28:48,519
fighters and all of this. That's
wrong too. By the way, you

455
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,880
wanted your guy to be as far
away by the separation of the Atlantic Ocean

456
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,000
from Deontay Wilder as possible in twenty
fifteen, twenty sixteen, and twenty seventeen,

457
00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:00,119
or they were thought they would have
fought. Elder went out there and

458
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,559
did this interview with an outfit.
I believe it's called seventy eight sports.

459
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,799
Okay, where I appreciate you're probably, but I've never heard of them.

460
00:29:07,799 --> 00:29:10,839
Okay, go ahead, though,
I've never heard of seventy eight sports.

461
00:29:10,839 --> 00:29:14,200
But where he's saying, meaning Joshua, they don't really want to fight.

462
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,680
They signed a contract to fight,
and you ship the bend right, and

463
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,559
he went on to talk about how
like when I lost, you saw how

464
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,880
happy Joshua was, Like, now
he can escape, you know, he

465
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:30,039
can get away from me. You
know. It almost seems like Deontay Wilder

466
00:29:30,079 --> 00:29:33,759
doesn't know what to say or what
to do after the Fury loss and now

467
00:29:33,839 --> 00:29:37,759
after this loss. But he's the
one he's searching. He doesn't know what

468
00:29:37,799 --> 00:29:44,480
to say saying that that did Joshua
that that because Deontay lost. Joshua was

469
00:29:44,519 --> 00:29:49,000
the one saying now it's like the
perfect way for for Deontay saying it's the

470
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,440
perfect way for him to get out
of the fight and out, it's an

471
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,200
out. We know the way to
get out of the fight is you lost.

472
00:29:55,759 --> 00:29:59,359
Joshua signed the contract. He was
ready, willing and able. We're

473
00:29:59,359 --> 00:30:03,480
gonna I have provided they both win, which we covered thoroughly about it.

474
00:30:03,559 --> 00:30:07,480
They don't lose, which they could
have gone the fight if it had been

475
00:30:07,559 --> 00:30:12,200
a draw or a no decision or
no contest, So it wasn't even predicated

476
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,799
on a victory. If you got
a twelve round draw against Joe Parker,

477
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,799
you'd have been in the fight.
So don't sit there and look. I

478
00:30:18,839 --> 00:30:23,519
love Deontay. I'm a fan.
I like him personally, but I gotta

479
00:30:23,559 --> 00:30:29,359
be real, bro, you don't
lose a fight in that one sided ass

480
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,240
kicking manner where you did absolutely dick
for twelve rounds. You landed thirty nine

481
00:30:33,359 --> 00:30:37,000
punches in a twelve round fight,
and you never landed a decent right hand,

482
00:30:37,039 --> 00:30:41,279
maybe one not your best for sure. And you're telling the guy who

483
00:30:41,319 --> 00:30:47,200
signed a contract and won the main
event impressibly that because he won't fight you

484
00:30:47,359 --> 00:30:49,119
now because you lost, that's his
way of getting out of the fight.

485
00:30:49,279 --> 00:30:53,640
What the fuck are you talking about? I'm with you on that. A

486
00:30:53,640 --> 00:31:00,599
little more news before we're done and
before we're good here on the program,

487
00:31:00,599 --> 00:31:04,519
and that includes Gervonte Davis. When
are we going to see him again as

488
00:31:04,559 --> 00:31:11,039
it maybe going to be on that
first PBC Amazon show on the timeline?

489
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:15,519
And I know he was he putting
it out there about fighting in a way

490
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,680
or no, who was putting it
out there? Also, my man,

491
00:31:21,799 --> 00:31:26,440
my man Rayphael has in bold letters
absurd on the rundown here about Tank and

492
00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:29,039
in a way. Okay, first
of all, I do not think that

493
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:30,960
Tank's the first one out of the
gate when they kick off the Amazon deal,

494
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,839
because I was might I don't know
this for sure, but I would

495
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:40,119
suspect that the first event they do
is not necessarily going to be to start

496
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:41,720
off with a pay per view.
Maybe I'll be wrong, but certainly in

497
00:31:41,799 --> 00:31:45,680
the early going you will see.
You got to figure I was going to

498
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,200
see Tank back in the ring.
He hasn't fought since April with the win

499
00:31:48,279 --> 00:31:52,920
over Ryan Garcia, so it'll be
you know, they don't start till March,

500
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,000
so you know it'll be about a
year obviously. You know, part

501
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,880
of that was because he was in
jail for a couple of months. Uh.

502
00:32:00,319 --> 00:32:05,799
On social media, there have been
a bunch of people suggesting that in

503
00:32:05,839 --> 00:32:10,079
a way should somehow move up and
fight Tank Davis, which that's like video

504
00:32:10,079 --> 00:32:15,359
game shit. Like boxing, weight
classes do actually exist very reason now,

505
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:19,640
the very all time greats have been
able to go up and do remarkable things

506
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,519
moving from division to division. Manny
Pacao did it in eight weight classes.

507
00:32:22,519 --> 00:32:25,599
The guy won his first world title
as a feather as a flyweight at one

508
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:30,200
hundred and twelve pounds, had actually
turned pro weighing like one hundred and six

509
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:36,119
pounds and fought as heavy as you
know he was, only he only weighed

510
00:32:37,279 --> 00:32:40,079
won forty four whatever, But he
won a title in the junior middleweight division,

511
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:44,240
so that's a limit of one hundred
and fifty four pounds. So he

512
00:32:44,359 --> 00:32:50,160
basically went, you know, span
about a fifty fifty pound you know,

513
00:32:50,759 --> 00:32:55,599
set of of weight classes and became
the only ever eight division world champion.

514
00:32:57,079 --> 00:32:59,680
Right, very very few guys can
do that. We're seeing in a way

515
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,839
do it now in the smaller weight
classes where he's already been champion from one

516
00:33:02,839 --> 00:33:07,359
toweight to one twenty two, and
there were people suggesting he should now somehow

517
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:13,880
be moving up to fight Davis at
one thirty five. And to Gervante's credit,

518
00:33:14,359 --> 00:33:16,240
the reason we're talking about this because
he's the one that went and responded

519
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:20,559
to some of those folks on his
social media and I quote, I'm not

520
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,039
fighting him. This is something he
wrote on Instagram. I'm not fighting him.

521
00:33:23,559 --> 00:33:28,759
He's nowhere near my weight. Why
this page keeps posting shit like this?

522
00:33:29,279 --> 00:33:31,000
You know? And he put nowhere
in capitol letters, so right,

523
00:33:31,519 --> 00:33:36,599
you know, and you know,
Davis is I think about that it from

524
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,000
one hundred eight pounds to one hundred
and thirty five pounds. How big of

525
00:33:39,039 --> 00:33:43,960
a spread that is? That's you
know what almost thirty pounds. So that

526
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,799
would be the equivalent of Davis being
a champion at or a title holder now

527
00:33:46,839 --> 00:33:52,160
at one hundred and thirty five pounds, of putting on this similar amount of

528
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,519
weight and moving up thirty pounds and
maybe fighting for a super middleweight time.

529
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,960
Like, you got to think about
these things. So right, there's levels,

530
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,279
you know, in a way,
and and Gervante are both pound for

531
00:34:02,359 --> 00:34:07,599
pound ranked guys, and they both
are you know, have star power in

532
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,880
their own right, and are obviously
very exciting and very interesting and you know

533
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:15,320
all the things that go into making
into a boxing superstar. But the notion

534
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:19,599
that people are so fucking stupid that
they would be suggesting that in a way

535
00:34:19,639 --> 00:34:22,639
after just coming to one twenty two, she now suddenly go to one thirty

536
00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:25,039
five to fight Tank Davis. How
about Tank Davis go up to one forty

537
00:34:25,079 --> 00:34:30,519
and fight like Tia Fimo or fight
you know, uh like that in that

538
00:34:30,519 --> 00:34:34,559
weight class. I mean maybe he
will, uh at some point. He's

539
00:34:34,559 --> 00:34:37,280
already fought in the weight class at
least once when he fought Mario Barrios.

540
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,840
But anyway, I just I get
so tired of seeing people just don't know

541
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,800
anything and they just see great names, and they were like, oh,

542
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,159
you know, well you mentioned it. It's like it's like fantasy football.

543
00:34:46,159 --> 00:34:50,880
It's the same thing, like playing
like fantasy matchmaker. Uh, you know,

544
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,400
wanting to see these different matchups.
But there are weight classes. Fight

545
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,880
Tyson Fury. I mean, you
know, yeah, they're two superstar names

546
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,440
and and they're great champions and all
that, but you know, it was

547
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,880
a reach when Canelo was talking about
fighting as a cruiserweight, which did not

548
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,440
happen at least not yet. And
now he has fought as heavy as as

549
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,199
one hundred and seventy five when he
fought for the light heavyweight belt and won

550
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,920
against Cove eleven lost in a light
heavyweight fight against Bibbel. So you know,

551
00:35:16,039 --> 00:35:21,920
again I reiterate in some weight classes
to jump from one weight to the

552
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,079
next is not a big deal.
I've never thought it was a big heavy

553
00:35:24,119 --> 00:35:28,440
lift to go from say one to
eighteen to one twenty two or one twenty

554
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,039
two to one twenty six. But
you were talking to a guy that started

555
00:35:30,119 --> 00:35:32,920
one a weight fighting at one twenty
two, and now you're suggesting you should

556
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,639
go to one thirty five, even
if they met at a catchweight at like

557
00:35:36,679 --> 00:35:39,079
you know, thirty two whatever.
It's just not feasible at least at this

558
00:35:39,199 --> 00:35:43,320
point. So there's only a few
guys that can really do that, and

559
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,639
even when they do, they don't
do it all at once. You know,

560
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:50,199
Pacyow jumped over two weight classes,
but most of the time you work

561
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,079
your way up to those divisions over
the course of time. I mean,

562
00:35:52,199 --> 00:35:57,440
Roy Jones turned pro, got like
one hundred and fifty six pounds and eventually

563
00:35:57,559 --> 00:36:01,039
fought in one a heavyweight title against
John Ouiz, But that didn't happen overnight.

564
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:05,119
That was over the course of like
fifteen years for him to go up

565
00:36:05,119 --> 00:36:08,760
to those way classes. Agreed with
you on that front, all right,

566
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:14,360
So normally we do nostalgia, but
we're wrapping up the end of this calendar

567
00:36:14,519 --> 00:36:19,679
year, so give me. There's
no fights to talk about that, there's

568
00:36:19,679 --> 00:36:22,119
no anniversaries, there's no anniversaries really, so give me a little bit on

569
00:36:22,599 --> 00:36:27,960
what we're looking ahead to. We've
already made mentioned about Premiere Boxing Champions going

570
00:36:28,039 --> 00:36:30,480
to Amazon Prime. What will that
look like, but it's going to be

571
00:36:30,519 --> 00:36:34,960
a couple of months before we see
that. What are we looking ahead to

572
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,639
as opposed to looking back and nostalgia? What are we looking ahead to at

573
00:36:37,639 --> 00:36:42,599
the end of this year, Well, we're We're gonna see what occurs in

574
00:36:42,639 --> 00:36:46,559
the aftermath of important things that happen
in twenty twenty three, the first being

575
00:36:46,599 --> 00:36:51,800
the end of Showtime Sports after thirty
seven years of putting on many of the

576
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:57,159
biggest fights we've seen in boxing.
They will their their department ceases to exist

577
00:36:57,199 --> 00:36:59,559
at the end of this week,
like it will, you know, just

578
00:36:59,599 --> 00:37:01,119
wiped off off the face of the
map. Unfortunately, a lot of people,

579
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:05,039
good people who I consider friends,
losing jobs and that sort of thing.

580
00:37:06,199 --> 00:37:12,880
They will be missed but not forgotten, so that that changes the paradigm

581
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,840
in some ways. Because, as
you mentioned, with PBC moving forward in

582
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,719
terms of their their deal with Prime
Video with Amazon, so I'm interested in

583
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,039
terms of what happens going forward,
what happens, how that Amazon deal presents

584
00:37:23,039 --> 00:37:27,679
itself, what the what the schedule
look like. I mean, I'm I'm

585
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,880
a little already feel a little skeptical, not because I don't think they're gonna

586
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:37,239
put on good fights, but because
the number of events is dramatically less than

587
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:42,280
what Showtime was doing. So they
need they need the the other dates.

588
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:46,280
So I'm hopeful that Hayman can line
up some other deal elsewhere. You know,

589
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:50,519
remember for a period of time he
did have two deals that that paid

590
00:37:50,559 --> 00:37:52,719
rights fees at the same time.
One was with Showtime obviously, the other

591
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:57,400
for a few years with Fox.
I'm not sure if he's got another one

592
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,039
in line. I've heard some conversations
between him other outlets beyond the Amazon deal,

593
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,719
So that's an important factor. What's
going to take last next year?

594
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:10,079
And then we've seen another shift of
things. We've seen the Tyson Fury fight

595
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:15,320
against Nagan who take place in Riad. We saw the Day of Reckoning take

596
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:19,719
place on December twenty third, that's
my TJ voice, see the Day of

597
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:24,480
Reckoning take place in READ. Also
come February, there'll be the Tyson Fury

598
00:38:24,519 --> 00:38:29,519
Alexander Usik fight also in Saudi Arabia. And then I think the plans will

599
00:38:29,519 --> 00:38:32,320
still be to go forward on March
ninth, at the end of the READ

600
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:37,760
season to do yet another big,
significant boxing event. So the Saudis are

601
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:42,920
putting on huge shows with major fights, spending huge amounts of money. I

602
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,639
think we're going to get better bea
versus Bevil in Saudi Arabia next year,

603
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:52,639
provided that that better bev wins his
mandatory against Collen Smith. Bib Will only

604
00:38:52,679 --> 00:38:58,159
won his fight on the twenty third
in the one side of the decision over

605
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:02,239
lind and Arthur. So in terms
of twenty twenty four, what's going to

606
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:07,519
be the deal? In terms of
how Amazon promotes itself presents itself, what

607
00:39:07,639 --> 00:39:12,039
kind of you know, broadcast crew
do They do a lot of rumors that

608
00:39:12,639 --> 00:39:15,039
Showtimes guys will move over to Amazon
since they've been calling the PBC fights for

609
00:39:15,039 --> 00:39:19,440
a while, and it's not like, you know, Amazon has a broadcast

610
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,239
team in place and it's going to
be up to the PBC folks to handle

611
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:27,199
the production anyway. So it seems
like I hope that would be the case.

612
00:39:27,599 --> 00:39:30,519
So I'm that's a big factor.
And also how serious will Saudi Arabia

613
00:39:30,559 --> 00:39:36,000
be about doing other fights beyond the
you know the When I first heard read

614
00:39:36,079 --> 00:39:37,400
Season that it's a festival, I'm
like, Oh, a festival. That's

615
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,480
nice. Who doesn't like a festival. I'm thinking a festival where I in

616
00:39:40,559 --> 00:39:43,480
my in our part of the world. At the festival, it's like a

617
00:39:43,519 --> 00:39:45,960
weekend, you know what I mean? Usually a week, maybe a month,

618
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:50,599
maybe a month. But read Season
as I've come to learn as I've

619
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,840
learned more and more about how they
operate, is like basically four months when

620
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:59,559
Fury fought the fight against Naganu,
that was on October twenty eighth, and

621
00:39:59,599 --> 00:40:02,719
that was like the opening ceremony,
if you will, of the Red Season

622
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:07,039
festival. So it was a couple
of days in October, bus all of

623
00:40:07,079 --> 00:40:09,199
November, all of December, all
of January, all of February, and

624
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:15,159
then it ends apparently sometime in mid
March. Four and a half month festival.

625
00:40:15,199 --> 00:40:19,360
That's a long festival. It's it's
almost I guess it's what a third

626
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,039
of the quarter of the year that
they have this for, you know,

627
00:40:22,679 --> 00:40:27,880
no a third of the year really
four months and change. The question I

628
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,719
have is what happens in the non
read season, Kelter, what happens in

629
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:36,760
terms of their interest to do big
events from the middle of March until the

630
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,800
end of October when the next one
starts. And here's another and here's another

631
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:44,840
point. Because Frank One was on
the broadcast, it's spouting on and on

632
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,519
this is the new Las Vegas,
was his line, that this is where

633
00:40:46,559 --> 00:40:51,320
it's going to be, you know, Saudi Arabia. The one point because

634
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:52,960
you and I understand this. We
understand sports, we understand media, we

635
00:40:53,039 --> 00:40:58,639
understand business. At some point,
the gravy train is going to be over

636
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,679
on. We're paying ridiculous, ridiculous, ridiculous, a fourth time ridiculous money

637
00:41:04,039 --> 00:41:07,559
and not seeing some of it in
return for what we're doing. So in

638
00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:10,559
the short term for this READD season, they obviously are putting out a lot

639
00:41:10,559 --> 00:41:15,840
of money for these different fights,
including the undisputed title fight that's upcoming,

640
00:41:15,199 --> 00:41:20,719
But I don't know that it continues
like well, here's definitely and I don't

641
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,280
buy into that it's going to outshine
Las Vegas as the gathering spot on a

642
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:28,360
regular basis for big time fights for
a lot of different waces. But go

643
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,559
ahead, I'll tell you. One
person made a point to me in terms

644
00:41:30,599 --> 00:41:35,880
of the fight that just occurred.
You know, to go from England or

645
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,000
anywhere in the UK to get to
read it's about a six hour airline flight,

646
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,320
right, That's a pretty due That's
like, you know, me flying

647
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,280
from Washington to Los Angeles. I've
done it a thousand times m hm.

648
00:41:45,079 --> 00:41:49,199
For the folks that are in Britain
that are the diehard Joshua fans or fans

649
00:41:49,199 --> 00:41:52,199
of any other of the British fighters
that have fought in Saudi Arabia, if

650
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,159
they come to the United States and
go to Vegas, it's like double that

651
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:58,360
length of a flight. But the
thing that was said to me is that

652
00:41:58,559 --> 00:42:01,440
they didn't get the sense a lot
of Brits turned out for the Joshua fight

653
00:42:02,039 --> 00:42:06,800
because the Brits are known. I've
seen it in person many times when I've

654
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,719
been at Joe kal Zaggi fights and
Lennox Lewis fights and Ricky Hatten fights and

655
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:15,519
obviously fights involving Anthony Joshua in New
York. Anyway, the BRIT's like to

656
00:42:15,519 --> 00:42:19,960
come and party and drink. Correct, you can't drink in Saudi Arabia.

657
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,440
It's dry. They don't have beer
and alcohol and liquor and wine and all.

658
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:27,239
So that puts a damper on a
lot of those traveling folks if they're

659
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,840
going to go on a vacation or
spend their money to travel. A lot

660
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:35,159
of those people don't want to travel
someplace where they can't drink. And I

661
00:42:35,199 --> 00:42:38,400
mean, I'm not knocking the Saudi
and the gambling, and the gambling part

662
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:42,599
of it is a big deal too, because in the Muslim culture, et

663
00:42:42,679 --> 00:42:45,960
cetera. It's not the same thing. And the gambling draw for Las Vegas

664
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:51,159
and for Atlantic City for decades for
boxing was a big part about around the

665
00:42:51,159 --> 00:42:54,039
casinos, around the gambling, the
ability to gamble on the fight, et

666
00:42:54,119 --> 00:42:58,559
cetera. So that's another part of
it's another So they may continue to have,

667
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,639
you know, certain major fight it's
in Saudi Arabia, that's fine,

668
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:06,719
But will it replace Las Vegas.
That I doubt because they're still tight for

669
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,480
the biggest properties in Vegas to have
the bigger fights. But the other thing

670
00:43:09,519 --> 00:43:14,599
about it also is this when you
talk about that they know they're paying out

671
00:43:14,599 --> 00:43:17,280
these outlantish amounts of money and eventually
they want to see a return. That's

672
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:23,400
where I will slightly disagree. My
impression, my perspective is they're not looking

673
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:29,480
for a return. They just aren't. They're advertising Saudi Arabia. Some would

674
00:43:29,519 --> 00:43:34,119
say they're sports washing Saudi Arabia.
Some would say they're looking. Some would

675
00:43:34,119 --> 00:43:37,480
say they're looking because they have smart
people there who know that maybe not in

676
00:43:37,559 --> 00:43:43,480
our lifetime, but at some point
in the future, people are not going

677
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,760
to use fossil fuels in the manner
in which they use them. And Saudi

678
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:50,840
Arabia and many of the countries in
the Middle East that have gained wealth have

679
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,440
done so because they are the home
of vast, vast reserves of oil and

680
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:58,920
gas, and that's what they export
and make trillions of dollars doing so.

681
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,039
Well, if that, if that
business is not going to exist at least

682
00:44:02,079 --> 00:44:07,239
at the level it has for decades
and decades, you better find something else

683
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,000
that's going to be able to generate
revenue for your your your country, for

684
00:44:10,079 --> 00:44:14,119
your government, for your people.
Well, one of the ways to do

685
00:44:14,159 --> 00:44:17,119
that is by saying, come to
our country. We have great festivals,

686
00:44:17,119 --> 00:44:22,159
and we have great talk about museums
and food and events and sports and music.

687
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,039
And by the way, they're not
just paying crazy money for boxing.

688
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:30,079
Like two days after they did their
Day of reckoning, they had a h

689
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:37,599
what a big tennis match? Who
is at Altu Djokovic and exactly so those

690
00:44:37,599 --> 00:44:39,599
are two of the biggest names in
tennis that I could barely remember, but

691
00:44:39,679 --> 00:44:43,719
they played, you know, their
match that drew a lot of attention in

692
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,960
TNIs. And the World Cup was
just in Qatar, which is again a

693
00:44:47,079 --> 00:44:52,280
massive worldwide event, not as big
for the United States, but that's not

694
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,760
Saudi Arabia. That's difficult, but
still the premise though of Formula One,

695
00:44:55,880 --> 00:45:01,599
of the Golf tour, which is
Saudi backed, all those it's UFC,

696
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:06,519
it's Formula One, it's live golf, as you mentioned, it is boxing.

697
00:45:06,599 --> 00:45:09,440
It's done the soccer too. They've
got their soccer because that's why Ronaldo

698
00:45:09,599 --> 00:45:14,639
was ringside, because he's part of
the Saudi Arabian Soccer League, for whatever

699
00:45:14,679 --> 00:45:19,440
that's worth. And the way Connor
McGregor, who hasn't had a UFC match

700
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,760
in quite a while, who's still
the most famous UFC fighter out there.

701
00:45:22,519 --> 00:45:25,960
If you looked at the front row, you had Ronaldo in one seat,

702
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,920
you had Turkey Alashiki, who's in
charge of the general Entertainment authority that doles

703
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,840
out the money in the middle seat. And on his other side was who

704
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,639
Connor McGregor. And UFC has been
dealing with them to the degree would it

705
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:43,440
shock anybody if Connor McGregor returns to
the octagon in Saudi Arabia for a big

706
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,920
amount of thing, obviously, and
beyond just the sports activities that we're talking

707
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:50,079
about and all the other stuff that
they did at the festival. They bring

708
00:45:50,119 --> 00:45:52,480
in all the A list concerts,
like somebody that I know that was in

709
00:45:52,519 --> 00:45:58,440
Saudi Arabia for the Day of Reckoning, they went to see I think it

710
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,400
was like fifty cent had a concert
that they on it and went to see

711
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:04,239
him perform. And they've been and
they bring in all the big acts,

712
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:08,760
so they're not looking for ROI on
the event, where if you're a if

713
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:13,079
you're if you're a promoter, you
know, Okay, we're paying out this

714
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,440
much in purses, this much in
expenses, and we're gonna take this much

715
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:21,000
back in ticket sales, television revenue, t shirt sales, you know whatever,

716
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:27,199
international television, the Saudi's that's not
their number one priority. And that's

717
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,039
why people having a hard time adjusting, because they can pay out those out,

718
00:46:30,079 --> 00:46:34,280
big, big numbers, and it's
not it's not an issue, is

719
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,960
it? But is it a long
term thing with them to continue to pay

720
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,800
that out? That's the unknown.
They're doing it in the short term?

721
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:44,079
Is it an unknown? And the
other thing too that I will say,

722
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,280
just standing up for the US of
A and for Las Vegas, it is

723
00:46:46,679 --> 00:46:53,199
ingrained in the boxing culture for fifty
plus years to go have bit well forty

724
00:46:53,199 --> 00:46:58,679
plus years go have big fights in
Las Vegas. Plus you have the Mexican

725
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:04,199
population, that California population, and
the proximity and massive, massive amounts of

726
00:47:04,199 --> 00:47:07,599
fight fans that are right there,
right beside it, that pour in there.

727
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,039
And I'm not preaching it. You
you've known this for twenty five plus

728
00:47:10,159 --> 00:47:14,639
years, but to most they don't
understand how big a deal that is.

729
00:47:14,639 --> 00:47:17,239
In the Western United States. Let's
tell you the broxis the proximity to Vegas

730
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:22,079
from those areas. When they were
doing the post in a way press conference

731
00:47:22,119 --> 00:47:27,920
with his promoter from Ohashi you know, Ohashi Promotions, and they were talking

732
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,880
about the kind of the calendar that
they would keep for in a way next

733
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:37,679
year, they were talking about maybe
him having three fights a fight in Japan.

734
00:47:37,599 --> 00:47:40,360
I don't think it's out of the
realm of possibility they're gonna They were

735
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,920
talking about doing it in a bigger
read like you know his fights in Japan

736
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,480
that we just had. They've been
in Ariaki, which is Ariaki Arena,

737
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:50,400
which holds like fifteen sixteen thousand,
you know, it's like a normal size

738
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,280
arena. They're talking about maybe going
to the to the Tokyo Dome, which

739
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:58,360
is where Tyson fought Buster Douglas.
That's a big, big, big,

740
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:00,519
huge tea. When they did ads
at like to say, tom a super

741
00:48:00,559 --> 00:48:05,159
arena that's like twenty something thousand,
they're talking about doing it at like a

742
00:48:05,159 --> 00:48:08,239
sixty thousand seat. But they also
talked about if he did fight, you

743
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:12,880
know, up to three times about
the possibility of having him fight his fight

744
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,519
at the end of next year,
which would what fall during the read season

745
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:20,400
of doing that fight in Saudi Arabia. So they're gonna try to bring in

746
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,239
those types of folks. The big
thing will be can they would they think

747
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,280
about bringing in like a Canelo as
a big Mexican fighter, And I don't

748
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:30,039
know what they're they're interested in that
is, but Canelo, I'm sure,

749
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:31,440
for the right deal, would fight, you know, in a place like

750
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:35,840
that, even though he's been synonymous
with Las Vegas for many, many years.

751
00:48:37,119 --> 00:48:38,639
So again, it's gonna be up
to them how long do they want

752
00:48:38,679 --> 00:48:42,480
to continue to pour the money in. But for the time being, if

753
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,519
you're a boxing fan and you're not
the person that's gonna get on a plane

754
00:48:45,559 --> 00:48:50,920
and necessarily travel to the fight,
say whatever you want about your opinions about

755
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,880
Saudi Arabia, But just in the
boxing context, you have to think it's

756
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:58,760
a good thing because they're making the
big fights. They made this day of

757
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,920
Reckoning four times now day of reckon. It's my TJ boys. They they

758
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:07,400
did it over the course of like
those eight fights on their own may have

759
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,239
taken several weeks to negotiate. They
put them together in like a few days.

760
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:15,480
Basically this big giant cart. They
got Joshua Wilder signed after years of

761
00:49:15,519 --> 00:49:20,159
not being able to get a fight
signed. They got the money talks,

762
00:49:20,159 --> 00:49:22,119
and if you have endless amounts of
it, you get it done. You

763
00:49:22,159 --> 00:49:24,880
can get it done. So I
understand all of that. But by the

764
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:29,920
way, Husak Fury should have taken
place on the twenty third, and it

765
00:49:30,079 --> 00:49:32,280
already been in the books, but
it didn't because of what happened. He

766
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:37,039
got touched up against the Naganu and
you know, wasn't prepared to get back

767
00:49:37,039 --> 00:49:38,800
in training so quickly and get back
in the ring. But that fight's gonna

768
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,760
take place in February and clarify because
I get lost in all of this and

769
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:46,199
we're almost done on the show.
The Usak Fury deal is a is a

770
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:51,159
rematch deal and it's a rematch deal
in Saudi Arabia or do we know that

771
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,519
for sure that the rematch is definitely
there also or could the rematch potentially be

772
00:49:54,559 --> 00:49:58,000
somewhere else? We don't know.
No, No, we do know they've

773
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,039
bought the fights they've got if there
is a remat at Sin Saudi Arabia also

774
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:04,760
unless something dramatically changed, but they
paid. They put up the money for

775
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,559
two fights, a second fight if
it happens. It's not like they're paying

776
00:50:07,599 --> 00:50:10,320
that as we joke. Now,
you know all got to pay Joshua and

777
00:50:10,519 --> 00:50:14,920
Wilder, so you can give that
money. I'm gonna tell you how the

778
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:16,960
Saudi's operate. This is something I've
heard from people that were involved in the

779
00:50:17,119 --> 00:50:22,039
Day of Reckoning. So there were
eight fights on that show. That's sixteen

780
00:50:22,039 --> 00:50:23,639
boxers. You know, I'm good
at math, So I'm not going to

781
00:50:23,679 --> 00:50:28,360
tell you which the fighter, which
fighter I'm talking about. When they were

782
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,599
doing the deal for this fight,
one of the one of the boxers talked

783
00:50:30,639 --> 00:50:34,320
directly with the people that were making
the fight. I think it was directly

784
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,320
with Turkey. You told us,
you told us about asking for more money.

785
00:50:37,559 --> 00:50:40,880
Yeah, so we asked for more
money and didn't know, and you

786
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:45,079
know, said gave the strike,
I'm a little in rough shape, this

787
00:50:45,119 --> 00:50:46,920
and that, and was very appreciative
of getting the position and the money they

788
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:50,440
were going to pay them anyway,
and sort of like just threw that out

789
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,239
there and they didn't blink. And
when they didn't know how much even if

790
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,920
they were going to give them extra
money. When he got the Bout agreement,

791
00:50:57,559 --> 00:51:01,039
there was four hundred thousand dollars more
than that negotiating. They don't care

792
00:51:01,159 --> 00:51:05,559
about the money. You don't understand. You brought that up on the US

793
00:51:05,599 --> 00:51:08,000
Show and I said to you,
our goal for twenty twenty four is to

794
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:12,760
get with the Saudi's, the Chinese, the Martians, somebody that's going to

795
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,719
give us an extra four hundred grand
just because we asked for it. We

796
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:17,440
got to get one of those kind
of deals, right phel where you just

797
00:51:17,519 --> 00:51:21,360
ask for a little more and you
get four hundred grand more. I've been

798
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,840
having this conversation with different people.
I had this conversation with my wife because

799
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:27,360
she didn't really you know, she
was sort of interested in this. I

800
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:34,639
tried to explain normal business people or
most people that you and I would know,

801
00:51:35,079 --> 00:51:37,800
have limits that's right. Even if
they're rich, have limits of what

802
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:42,159
do we have in the bank,
What can we afford to be in debt

803
00:51:42,199 --> 00:51:45,320
for before we are bankrupt and gone
exactly we have coming in? Yes,

804
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:50,440
can we afford to do everybody,
no matter how rich you are, generally,

805
00:51:50,519 --> 00:51:52,000
unless you're like Bill Gates or even
if you're Bob Aaron. Let's say

806
00:51:52,119 --> 00:51:59,400
you got a budget. Right in
their world, there is no budget.

807
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:04,800
It's literally limitless. They can buy
any fight they want. Think about,

808
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,360
what would you think is the most
expensive fight in the world. Try and

809
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:14,920
that fight they can afford just because
they feel like it. Yep, one

810
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:20,719
hundred million, no problem. It
literally is like me. It's like you

811
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:22,440
and I. We we see each
other in Vegas, you know, and

812
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:27,719
I go buy you a cup of
coffee, Like, is the three bucks

813
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,039
gonna break my bank? It doesn't. It's not like it registers. They

814
00:52:30,039 --> 00:52:35,199
can do that with the biggest fights
in the world and any fight they want

815
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,159
they can app which why I made
the joke to somebody else. You know,

816
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:43,320
if if there's a conversation about them
doing Joshua against Hrgovitch, for example,

817
00:52:43,519 --> 00:52:46,320
and they decide no, they want
to do Joshua against Naganu. Let's

818
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:50,880
say they can pay for it,
and I'm sure what happened. End of

819
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,480
story. So that's this all started
with what are we looking forward to or

820
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:58,760
what are the storylines developing for twenty
twenty four. So to me, the

821
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:05,599
two biggest things in the business are
what is the commitment in Saudi Arabia to

822
00:53:05,639 --> 00:53:09,599
do the bigger fights at least in
the context of their read season and what's

823
00:53:09,679 --> 00:53:15,039
gonna be the result of this deal
between PBC and Amazon those and I will

824
00:53:15,159 --> 00:53:19,679
just give one addendum. I got
you. I gave you one addendum,

825
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,920
which is I'm anxious to see the
Fury Usik fight, which we were robbed

826
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:28,039
of in twenty twenty three because Tyson
Fury screwed around and wasted all of our

827
00:53:28,079 --> 00:53:31,519
time in the first half of the
year for that fight. I'm interested.

828
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:36,519
Is there a rematch for Terrence Crawford
and Aerolspince or not and win when in

829
00:53:36,559 --> 00:53:40,119
Where is Crawford fighting next? What
about Canelo and Bena Vetez. Are we

830
00:53:40,199 --> 00:53:45,320
going to get that for the first
weekend in May maybe Cinco de Mayo?

831
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,639
What's the what are we waiting on? I mean, that's a tremendous fight.

832
00:53:49,679 --> 00:53:51,840
If that's what it is, I
don't know, but I'm interested in

833
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:53,800
seeing how all those things unfold.
We'll see, I think, and it

834
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:59,320
as it relates to that fight.
I do think that Canelo will eventually fight

835
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,920
him, because he'slwy shown that he
would fight the top guys. I suspect.

836
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:06,800
I don't know this. If it
does happen, I think it's the

837
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:10,000
second fight of the twenty twenty four
calendar for Canelo, which would mean a

838
00:54:10,039 --> 00:54:14,639
September of next year, and that
they'll do something else in May. Benivide's

839
00:54:14,639 --> 00:54:16,760
will fight at least, you know, another time, and then hopefully they'll

840
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,480
fight at the end of the year. But I do hope it happens next

841
00:54:19,519 --> 00:54:22,519
year. You know, fights make
fights, as we always talk about,

842
00:54:22,599 --> 00:54:28,119
and you know, we've seen that
the wins by Canelo and the wins by

843
00:54:28,159 --> 00:54:31,199
Benavides had made it, so we
want to now see that fight between those

844
00:54:31,199 --> 00:54:36,320
two guys. They are two exciting
fighters, and uh, and I just

845
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,960
hope we get as big of a
year in twenty twenty four as twenty three,

846
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:44,440
which you know we're gonna probably get
Ryan Garcia against Devin Haney. Uh.

847
00:54:44,519 --> 00:54:46,880
They're they're very uh you know,
involved in discussing that fight right now.

848
00:54:47,159 --> 00:54:50,599
You know, hopefully we're going to
see some of the other bigger names

849
00:54:50,599 --> 00:54:52,880
in these bigger fights. And I
suspect with the uh you know, with

850
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:58,760
the success of that fight between Tank
and Ryan, that it will propel others

851
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:00,760
to decide to fight the bigger names. We're seeing it in the heavyweight division.

852
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:04,039
With the fights are putting on,
I think we're going to get better

853
00:55:04,079 --> 00:55:09,199
BF against against Dmitri. People provided
better BF win and that will be probably

854
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:15,360
one of these fights that take place
in Saudi Arabia. So other than an

855
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:20,079
un you know, we don't know
what's gonna happen with the broadcasting situation in

856
00:55:20,159 --> 00:55:22,840
terms of fights being made. Like
boxing is in like a pretty decent spot

857
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:27,039
right now. A lot of undiscuted
fights, a lot of champions fighting other

858
00:55:27,079 --> 00:55:29,760
champions. I mean, that's a
good thing. That is a good thing.

859
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,280
All right, Well done again,
We've got the bet Us show coming.

860
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:36,639
One final time you and I commiserate
in twenty twenty three, that is

861
00:55:36,679 --> 00:55:39,360
Friday, one Eastern time as we
release this podcast again, I say what

862
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:43,400
I said at the beginning of the
pod. We do have the Ioka title

863
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:47,239
fight, but because of schedules,
the fact that that's early Sunday, we're

864
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:52,719
not going to have one in terms
of a fight freaks U Night recap coming

865
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:54,199
off of this weekend. You just
got to deal with it, peeps.

866
00:55:54,360 --> 00:56:00,000
We'll be ready for Virgil Ortiz fight
week for next week in the preview mode

867
00:56:00,199 --> 00:56:02,519
for next week. If any other
development's warrant though, we might come your

868
00:56:02,519 --> 00:56:06,400
way with something special with that,
but it's in terms of a recap podcast

869
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:07,920
off the weekend not going to be
the case. All of that being said,

870
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:12,519
we've put up with each other for
another calendar year. Well done.

871
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,679
We've gotten to the finish line on
this again, a bet Us show for

872
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:16,599
you and me on Friday at one
ey short time, and then we're going

873
00:56:16,639 --> 00:56:20,400
to ring in the new year coming
up. We're almost done with twenty twenty

874
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,239
almost even when the year is done, what happens the next day is new

875
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,079
year. Now, you got to
start off. That's right, the calendar

876
00:56:25,199 --> 00:56:28,360
let us for twenty twenty four.
I don't have to put up with you

877
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,119
till next year after Friday, because
if we're starting with the New Year's jokes

878
00:56:31,159 --> 00:56:35,840
already, I'll see, yes,
I'll see you next year. Dan Rayfield,

879
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:37,599
thank you. Have a good weekend. Be safe. Do you w

880
00:56:37,599 --> 00:56:40,800
on the bet us show moment?
There you go, I'm merely TJ Reeves.

881
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:45,440
You've been tuned in here to the
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882
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:49,199
subscribe, rate us, and review
us wherever you get the podcasts. We've

883
00:56:49,199 --> 00:56:51,599
got much more on the way in
twenty twenty four. We thank you for

884
00:56:51,639 --> 00:56:53,199
being with us now, Happy New
year, Be safe.